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    Just switched from PC to Mac. I watched in disgust as my PC did a spinning wheel and then interpeted some previous command as a "delete all my emails in Outlook (LookOut) command." Windows is a ty, undependable OS and MS programs, especially Lookout, are buggy as . I use my computer to run a business and I need something that works without screwing up. I am more technical than the average person but I do not have time to jack around with the computer-it just needs to do what it is supposed to do.
    Ended up that I had to install Windows on the Mac because I could not find a good subs ute for ACT and I discovered, ironically, that Windows seems more stable running in Parallels.
    I am happy I switched. Now I get my work done and spend less time messing around trying to get the computer to do what it needs to do. A PC seems like a bad investment when you measure the cost of time you have to spend jacking around with them to get things done. I place a high value on my time.

    So let me get this straight, you made the switch from PC to Mac then found out that Windows is actually what you needed and installed Windows OS on your overpriced Mac hardware?

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    I've had a few bad rounds with BSOD and windows re installs but in each case the culprit turned out to be bad memory or a bad HDD.

    One thing that was definitely more noticeable in older versions of windows (I'm thinking 95 and 98) was the lag that would develop after time. Your system would generally slow down and a new format/windows install might help you get speed.
    It was buggy, and so was MacOS 8 & 9 at the time. The Mac didn't have the the slowdown or need a reinstall, but it did have the same crashes and freezes from the lack of memory protection, just like 95/98. XP actually came before OS X, and solved that, which was huge and IMO made it a superior OS at the time.

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    Hey chief when you buy a mac do you realize your done with it? aside from maybe a memory upgrade at very expensive prices your stuck with what you purchased. I can take my PC and do what ever the I want with it. If I want to run all OS known to man I can. Its called virtualization. Not only that I can customize the hardware needed. What can you do with that piece of fruit?
    Sounds like you would not buy a Porsche because it is already great...

    instead you would buy a car and try to improve it....

    it is like putting lipstick on a pig....

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    Hey chief when you buy a mac do you realize your done with it? aside from maybe a memory upgrade at very expensive prices your stuck with what you purchased. I can take my PC and do what ever the I want with it. If I want to run all OS known to man I can. Its called virtualization. Not only that I can customize the hardware needed. What can you do with that piece of fruit?
    Macs have virtualization too. You can also boot them into other OSes also (including windows).

    There's also the fact that, with some tweaks, you can run MacOS X on fairly generic PC hardware too, and you end up with the benefits of both worlds: A cheap, upgradable system and the niceties of what MacOS X brings.

    Then again, if you're comfortable with your Windows, what's the point?

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    One regard that I prefer Macs is the efficiency of starting the computer. With my Dell PC, it takes a while to be able to begin using the computer from the time I start it or open it back up out of a "hibernate" or "sleep" mode. With a Mac, there's very little wait time at all; you just open the damn thing and start using it. This is a pain in the ass that influences me to keep my computer on for much longer periods of time. It's sort of a stupid thing to about since this effect can only waste a tiny amount of time out of my day, but it's still a frequent inconvenience. I hate when I just shut my PC (putting it in sleep mode) and realize there was one thing I forget to check before I leave for work or class, like the weather or location of a meeting, etc. With my busy schedule I usually leave my place to make me exactly on time. If I had a Mac, none of this would matter.

    I don't know how much this has changed with more recent models from typical companies like Dell since I bought mine about 3 years ago. But it's not like I bought some bum ass machine, my Dell is on the high end for performance and the price was comparable to a Mac.

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    Maybe you should research a little about Macs...and you will find out that...
    there is no need for "computer upkeep"...as this would take valuable time away for the work you are trying to accomplish...or from the fun you are having on your Mac...while PC users are "upkeeping"...
    So the hardware used in Macs never experience any failures, no issues?

    If they fail you send it in because you cannot fix it. I can fix my own . I've not had a PC failure in 10 years, and back when I did it was because I was overclocking the out of things and couldn't cool enough.

    Do you think forest gnomes bring the Macbooks to stores, with a magical "no fail" invisible veil?
    This is a big thing that surprises many people when they switch over to Macs...they are pleasantly surprised to find out that things just make sense on a Mac and they are user friendly...
    Sounds like something a woman would say going from a pickup to a Prius. The cupholders are just right where you need them. What's under the hood? I don't know, it's all covered in some plastic and the dealer does it.
    It does not mean that it makes anyone stupid...the statement you made is what is stupid...
    It means you are either

    A: too ing stupid to use a PC

    B: too ing lazy to use a PC

    C:

    it is like saying that you'd rather have a car that breaks down on you regularly and leaves you stranded...because this makes you a "competent" car owner...while those idiots who drive around in dependable cars are doing so because they are too stupid to fix the car....
    Lets see you get 400K miles from your "dependable" car. I get that much from my "non-dependable" trucks, but then I am the dependable one. Machines break, they have flaws, and I find ways to make them work better. I don't just go buy another one.

    I am not surprised that some pseudo enlightened prison guard who wants a VW would be enamored by a Mac.

    You would pay twice the going PC rate for something you feel you don't have to know anything about. On the other hand, I know enough to be self sufficient, so I can build my own if I choose to. Let's see you build your own Mac.

    It's like trading in every 35K and keeping a large monthly payment because you are too intimidated by the thought of maintenance on your own vehicle. It's just so easy when you let others do it for you.

    Metrosexual thing you

    The Macs break also. If you think they don't you're dumber than you act here and that's hard to believe.

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    So let me get this straight, you made the switch from PC to Mac then found out that Windows is actually what you needed and installed Windows OS on your overpriced Mac hardware?
    Nope. That is not what I said. I do not use only one program, Einstein. I commented on the fact that it is surprising that Windows, for some reason, seemed more stable running under Parallels.
    When I started with computers there were no PC's or Macs and the operating systems I used were CPM and Xenix (a form of Unix). I can build my own PC's if I ever had the notion. I briefly considered moving to an open-source platform but really those OS's while perhaps more stable suffer from a lack of consistency in the interface and clunky feel.
    Bottom-line is my time is valuable and the Mac lets me get my work done quickly and simply. Please don't tell me you use a PC and do not have problems with it. If that is the case you must be using it as a doorstop.

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    So the hardware used in Macs never experience any failures, no issues?

    If they fail you send it in because you cannot fix it. I can fix my own . I've not had a PC failure in 10 years, and back when I did it was because I was overclocking the out of things and couldn't cool enough.

    Do you think forest gnomes bring the Macbooks to stores, with a magical "no fail" invisible veil?
    Sounds like something a woman would say going from a pickup to a Prius. The cupholders are just right where you need them. What's under the hood? I don't know, it's all covered in some plastic and the dealer does it.
    It means you are either

    A: too ing stupid to use a PC

    B: too ing lazy to use a PC

    C:


    Lets see you get 400K miles from your "dependable" car. I get that much from my "non-dependable" trucks, but then I am the dependable one. Machines break, they have flaws, and I find ways to make them work better. I don't just go buy another one.

    I am not surprised that some pseudo enlightened prison guard who wants a VW would be enamored by a Mac.

    You would pay twice the going PC rate for something you feel you don't have to know anything about. On the other hand, I know enough to be self sufficient, so I can build my own if I choose to. Let's see you build your own Mac.

    It's like trading in every 35K and keeping a large monthly payment because you are too intimidated by the thought of maintenance on your own vehicle. It's just so easy when you let others do it for you.

    Metrosexual thing you

    The Macs break also. If you think they don't you're dumber than you act here and that's hard to believe.
    So what you are really saying is that your PC makes you feel more like a man?



    I've heard of people buying big trucks and big engines and due to their trying to overcome a small penis...

    but for you....a PC makes you a real man! Priceless

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    this thread is relatively entertaining, so i ask keep it up

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    One regard that I prefer Macs is the efficiency of starting the computer. With my Dell PC, it takes a while to be able to begin using the computer from the time I start it or open it back up out of a "hibernate" or "sleep" mode. With a Mac, there's very little wait time at all; you just open the damn thing and start using it. This is a pain in the ass that influences me to keep my computer on for much longer periods of time. It's sort of a stupid thing to about since this effect can only waste a tiny amount of time out of my day, but it's still a frequent inconvenience. I hate when I just shut my PC (putting it in sleep mode) and realize there was one thing I forget to check before I leave for work or class, like the weather or location of a meeting, etc. With my busy schedule I usually leave my place to make me exactly on time. If I had a Mac, none of this would matter.

    I don't know how much this has changed with more recent models from typical companies like Dell since I bought mine about 3 years ago. But it's not like I bought some bum ass machine, my Dell is on the high end for performance and the price was comparable to a Mac.
    Might just be the hardware. If you're looking at macbook airs with solid state or flash media then they'll always boot up WAY faster than a machine with a regular old HDD.

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    Might just be the hardware. If you're looking at macbook airs with solid state or flash media then they'll always boot up WAY faster than a machine with a regular old HDD.
    Probably. I guess one option is to not be lazy and research my next purchase more thoroughly, or pay one of my computer nerd friends build me a sick ass machine. But that's also why I can justify a Mac for someone like me and also why I actually buy some of silverblk mystix's points in this thread. When it comes to something I use for 4-8 hours daily that will last me years, an extra few hundred bucks doesn't matter at all.

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    Might just be the hardware. If you're looking at macbook airs with solid state or flash media then they'll always boot up WAY faster than a machine with a regular old HDD.
    A buddy of mine just upgraded his desktop and one of the things that he did was install a SSD. He told me that the windows portion of the boot up takes lest time than the BIOS' POST. He also mentioned that the windows on sound isn't even finished playing and his computer is already ready to use. Crazy.

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    Probably. I guess one option is to not be lazy and research my next purchase more thoroughly, or pay one of my computer nerd friends build me a sick ass machine. But that's also why I can justify a Mac for someone like me and also why I actually buy some of silverblk mystix's points in this thread. When it comes to something I use for 4-8 hours daily that will last me years, an extra few hundred bucks doesn't matter at all.
    Just do research. You can definitely get a windows machine for cheaper but if you like the speed of an SSD I'm not sure how the prices compare. I do think the MacBook air laptops are bad ass though.

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    A buddy of mine just upgraded his desktop and one of the things that he did was install a SSD. He told me that the windows portion of the boot up takes lest time than the BIOS' POST. He also mentioned that the windows on sound isn't even finished playing and his computer is already ready to use. Crazy.
    and the SS DRIVES are slowly coming down in price...it is definitely a hot technology...

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    A buddy of mine just upgraded his desktop and one of the things that he did was install a SSD. He told me that the windows portion of the boot up takes lest time than the BIOS' POST. He also mentioned that the windows on sound isn't even finished playing and his computer is already ready to use. Crazy.
    Yeah - pretty awesome when you're not limited by physical movements in a device and can just pretty much operate as fast as the electronics.

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    and the SS DRIVES are slowly coming down in price...it is definitely a hot technology...
    Yeah, I told him about it because it was a super saver deal on newegg a couple of weeks ago 64 GB for 59 dollars, but it was a brand we didn't know anything about. He got the itch though and ended up buying a good brand 128 GB for 160. I will start thinking seriously about them when they get to about a buck a gig for a good brand (seeing as I just bought a new laptop, it will just supercharge that ).

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    Just do research. You can definitely get a windows machine for cheaper but if you like the speed of an SSD I'm not sure how the prices compare. I do think the MacBook air laptops are bad ass though.
    I think they suck, actually.

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    Solid State Drives definitely provide a major boost. They're still pricey though.
    And you can retrofit those on any Mac/Windoze/Unix.

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    I think they suck, actually.
    You don't carry around 3 or 4 huge textbooks in a backpack plus a 6lb laptop though. Next laptop I get will have good specs but a small monitor. I'll just hook it up to one here at home.

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    You don't carry around 3 or 4 huge textbooks in a backpack plus a 6lb laptop though. Next laptop I get will have good specs but a small monitor. I'll just hook it up to one here at home.
    definitely not. Only use portables when I travel, and an iPad has been sufficient, tbh.

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    You don't carry around 3 or 4 huge textbooks in a backpack plus a 6lb laptop though. Next laptop I get will have good specs but a small monitor. I'll just hook it up to one here at home.
    Should have majored in CS, math, or physics where all the textbooks from freshman to graduate level are available as .pdfs/.djvus tbh.

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    Got my Dell laptop working again , now I have one to use for Access and Visio and can do projects for work at my house.

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    Should have majored in CS, math, or physics where all the textbooks from freshman to graduate level are available as .pdfs/.djvus tbh.
    Or Finance and Economics because the concepts are easy as to understand and thus having textbooks is not critical, and your earning potential relative to the amount of effort you need to put in during college is solid.

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    Or Finance and Economics because the concepts are easy as to understand and thus having textbooks is not critical, and your earning potential relative to the amount of effort you need to put in during college is solid.
    Are you finance or econ tbh

    I'm accounting and finance, woulda done econ but too much writing

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    Are you finance or econ tbh

    I'm accounting and finance, woulda done econ but too much writing
    Both, tbh. And I haven't had to do much writing at all for either of my majors tbh. As Louie CK puts it, this is thoroughly good.

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