career PER in Playoffs
1. Michael Jordan* 28.59 2. George Mikan* 28.51 3. LeBron James 26.31 4. Shaquille O'Neal 26.12 5. Hakeem Olajuwon* 25.69 6. Tim Duncan 25.43 7. Dirk Nowitzki 24.75 8. Tracy McGrady 24.66 9. Dwyane Wade 24.56 10. Charles Barkley* 24.18 11. Dwight Howard 23.65 12. Dolph Schayes* 23.29 13. Jerry West* 23.06 14. David Robinson* 23.02 15. Amare Stoudemire 23.01 16. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar* 23.01 17. Magic Johnson* 22.95 18. Wilt Chamberlain* 22.77 19. Bob Pet * 22.59 20. Kobe Bryant 22.28 21. Baron Davis 22.20 22. Elgin Baylor* 21.83 23. Kevin Garnett 21.67 24. Larry Bird* 21.41
Yes, cause coaches always say stuff that makes sense.do u ever hear any player, coach, gm, ect mention it?
Lebron had higher per than kobe in 2010, way higher, but tell me what did alvin gentry say in the playoffs?
did he say lebron is better than kobe because of >per? no lol
he said kobe is the best player in the leageu, it's not even close...kobe homer?
"Michael Jordan would average 60 in today's game."
- Larry Brown, basketball genius.
Also, coaches and "NBA experts" ALWAYS says hyperbolic following a playoff series. When Duncan destroyed the Lakers in '03, Magic said he was the best post-player he's ever seen. This is coming from a guy who played with Kareem. Coaches, announcers, analysts often get caught up in the moment and will say any amount of dumb things that only fanboys of that particular player being lauded would interpret as solid analysis.
Do you dislike pussy and asshole?
im a happy lakers fan...what part of midnightpulp died just now?
what hurts me though is seeing players like Lin look all-world against an older Kobe...a prime Kobe would have shat all over that chanks head
Are you mad that Kobe is 20th? Is that why you don't take it seriously?
I know you'll use players like Baron Davis and Amare as proof that PER is an unreliable stat, but what you fail to acknowledge is those two have relatively small sample sizes. Do me a favor and adjust the list so it features players who played more than 100 playoff games.
lol imagine how they felt
Lol at "coaches' opinion"
Mad that Kobe is 20th.
why would I be mad?Are you mad that Kobe is 20th? Is that why you don't take it seriously?
I know you'll use players like Baron Davis and Amare as proof that PER is an unreliable stat, but what you fail to acknowledge is those two have relatively small sample sizes. Do me a favor and adjust the list so it features players who played more than 100 playoff games.
5 championships
I hadn't seen that in a while. Tim is a badass.
poster on internet opinion > nba coaches opinion
yeah sure, only on the internet, but real life is a different story
If you weren't mad and didn't feel the need to defend Kobe, you wouldn't be in this thread posting those lists in attempt to debunk PER.why would I be mad?
5 championships
Mad that Kobe is 20th
As much as we needed it, they needed it more. & they didn't get it.lol imagine how they felt
Just absolutely killer.
are u srs?If you weren't mad and didn't feel the need to defend Kobe, you wouldn't be in this thread posting those lists in attempt to debunk PER.
Mad that Kobe is 20th
im mad because kobe is 20th on a formula made up by some guy?
yeah im raging right now. so mad!
"Michael Jordan would average 60 in today's game."
- Larry Brown
Any "internet opinion" that would claim Jordan would average nowhere near that would be superior to Larry Brown's in this case. So yes, it's possible for "internet opinion" to be > coach's opinion.
you are basically asking for kori to pink midnight. I think he has some immunity to that. But it would stop trolls. Tough decision
The formula is pretty consistent. If you didn't care, you wouldn't expend any effort trying to debunk it.
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You're right. I was looking forward to burning your ass something fierce.
bird 24thThe formula is pretty consistent. If you didn't care, you wouldn't expend any effort trying to debunk it.
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magic 17th
kareem 16th
wilt 18th
so accurate
"Kobe’s defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league’s all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn’t played sound, fundamental defense.
"Mesmerized by the ball, he’s gambled too frequently, putting us out of position, forcing rotations that leave a man wide open, and doesn’t keep his feet on the ground.”
- Phil Jackson
"Kobe’s defense, to be accurate, has faltered in recent years, despite his presence on the league’s all-defensive team. The voters have been seduced by his remarkable athleticism and spectacular steals, but he hasn’t played sound, fundamental defense.
"Mesmerized by the ball, he’s gambled too frequently, putting us out of position, forcing rotations that leave a man wide open, and doesn’t keep his feet on the ground.”
- Phil Jackson
Now you're acting like somebody. It ain't snatchin' a pebble out from twixt my asscheeks, or, carrying Katie's scalding soup pot out to the yard, but, it's an improvement.
Players who've had long careers, their lower numbers toward the end bringing down the overall average. You understand the concept of aging, don't you?
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