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    Nobody will defend Jordan as a human being, but he remains the greatest NBA player.
    This. But a couple thoughts ...

    1. It's ridiculous that his shoes are that expensive still ...considering very few are truly comfortable functional for hoops and he has been retired for so many years.

    2. Normally urban youths get tired of even expensive after a while. It only stays hot so long. You see people wearing Phat Farm, roca wear, Sean Jean, Ed hardy like they did a few years back. Jordan's brand has outlasted them all ...

    3. Jordan's arent even hoopin' shoes anymore they have iconic fashion wear status that doesnt seem to go out of style.

    You can Hate MJ but his (Nike) marketing strategy and his game are two things that are undeniable. he was arguably the GOAT and even if you could argue James, Kareem, whomever he is in THAT convo if not the leader.

    What I dont like ...

    1. He never shown an ounce of genuine guilt over kids getting shot behind them. I know it's not his fault and people can get shot over KD's too ...but outside of some donations he doesnt seem to have any inkling to take a social stance

    2. or use his platform to be an agent for political or social change

    3. Although he may have some true points about LeBron his disparaging remarks does come across as bitter at times.

    All that being said yes there are plenty of better humans who we WISH would be the GOAT but they are not ... MJ is.
    Last edited by Killakobe81; 10-13-2015 at 05:17 PM.

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    Is there another main-stream, popular consumer product outside maybe the iphone that is even close to holding it's status as both a treasured product by urban kids, adults and even fellow players and celebs than Jordans?!
    Off the top of my head I am hard pressed to find things that can compare. Maybe a Toyota? Everything else would be luxury items like Rolex, BMW, Mercedes Jaguar

    But I am sure someone on this site has a marketing background probably forgetting something ...

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    Mike never loved him like that


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    Is there another main-stream, popular consumer product outside maybe the iphone that is even close to holding it's status as both a treasured product by urban kids, adults and even fellow players and celebs than Jordans?!
    Off the top of my head I am hard pressed to find things that can compare. Maybe a Toyota? Everything else would be luxury items like Rolex, BMW, Mercedes Jaguar

    But I am sure someone on this site has a marketing background probably forgetting something ...




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    1. It's ridiculous that his shoes are that expensive still ...considering very few are truly comfortable functional for hoops and he has been retired for so many years.

    2. Normally urban youths get tired of even expensive after a while. It only stays hot so long. You see people wearing Phat Farm, roca wear, Sean Jean, Ed hardy like they did a few years back. Jordan's brand has outlasted them all ...

    You can Hate MJ but his marketing strategy and his game are two things that are undeniable.


    .
    jordan's brand is quite possibly one of the most revolutionary in nature, it's still causing so much ruckus despite its ridiculous pricing, constant oversaturation and quality being worst than its previous releases. Yet price increases have significantly outpaced these factors


    you have guys like james harden wearing air jordans the following day after signing a $200 million contract with adidas . nobody will ever slow down jordan's hype machine. It’s the most powerful force behind today's sneaker game.

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    Burned them? Why not sell them and get money for them online? I agree on the rest though, straight piece of asshole regardless of how good he was.
    I wouldn't sell them..I bought all my Js at a young age, when I was still brainwashed and enamored with the Michael Jordan aura..selling them now would make me just as bad as Dad Killer, tbh..

    I suppose I could have given them to a homeless man, but I was engulfed with rage at the time..

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    I wouldn't sell them..I bought all my Js at a young age, when I was still brainwashed and enamored with the Michael Jordan aura..selling them now would make me just as bad as Dad Killer, tbh..

    I suppose I could have given them to a homeless man, but I was engulfed with rage at the time..

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    Not MJ's fault if some dumbass kills a human being for a ing pair of shoes tbh

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    Let's be real...if information would have been ready available as it is today Jordan's image would have been way too tarnished for Jordan Brand to achieve the longevity it has had. With all his character issues laid bare Nike would have bailed on him long ago. It makes one wonder how Jordan would have held up mentally if he got stretched over the log like the media does athletes today. I'm betting he would have had a fantastic public meltdown at some point. I mean ...we are talking about a guy whose pride is so fragile that he invited his old HS coach and the guy that played ahead of him to his HOF induction just so he could berate them.

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    I wouldn't sell them..I bought all my Js at a young age, when I was still brainwashed and enamored with the Michael Jordan aura..selling them now would make me just as bad as Dad Killer, tbh..

    I suppose I could have given them to a homeless man, but I was engulfed with rage at the time..

    Did Mike your mama? For real serious question

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    When even Marbury thinks you're a horrible human being, you're a horrible human being.

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    I wouldn't sell them..I bought all my Js at a young age, when I was still brainwashed and enamored with the Michael Jordan aura..selling them now would make me just as bad as Dad Killer, tbh..

    I suppose I could have given them to a homeless man, but I was engulfed with rage at the time..
    Well then if not selling them, give them away (I would have taken them mother ers lol). He is a piece of though as a person and I don't think of him in the same light as I did when I was a youngin, dude just looks like an asshole to me now especially off the court. I can still watch his highlights and say he was that dude, but his off the court persona ruined a lot for me hearing some stories. Dude is a piece of person, his HOF speech even held grudges and tried to belittle people.

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    Well then if not selling them, give them away (I would have taken them mother ers lol). He is a piece of though as a person and I don't think of him in the same light as I did when I was a youngin, dude just looks like an asshole to me now especially off the court. I can still watch his highlights and say he was that dude, but his off the court persona ruined a lot for me hearing some stories. Dude is a piece of person, his HOF speech even held grudges and tried to belittle people.
    I love when people defend his speech. It was honest no doubt ...but compared to Stockton and Robinson he sounded like an ass iirc.

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    I love when people defend his speech. It was honest no doubt ...but compared to Stockton and Robinson he sounded like an ass iirc.
    True. I doubt Kobe gives a speech like that at his award ceremony when he makes it, just saying. I know Mike and Kobe are serious compe ors and so on, but if I would meet one of the two who care considered the best 2G's ever I would chose Kobe because I know Mike would be a complete ass and Kobe actually seems like he would not blow you off or curse at you and say something to degrade you (Mike at his best).

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    jordan's brand is quite possibly one of the most revolutionary in nature, it's still causing so much ruckus despite its ridiculous pricing, constant oversaturation and quality being worst than its previous releases. Yet price increases have significantly outpaced these factors


    you have guys like james harden wearing air jordans the following day after signing a $200 million contract with adidas . nobody will ever slow down jordan's hype machine. It’s the most powerful force behind today's sneaker game.
    The shoe designs were ahead of thier time. tinker hatfield was on some other when he design them. 3-14 are Timeless

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    Kirby is a better human being tbh

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    The shoe designs were ahead of thier time. tinker hatfield was on some other when he design them. 3-14 are Timeless
    You are such an amazingly stereotypical coon.

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    marbury preaching about good people

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    You are such an amazingly stereotypical coon.
    ..

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    You are such an amazingly stereotypical coon.
    what other basketball shoe tops Jordans?

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    Burned them? Why not sell them and get money for them online? I agree on the rest though, straight piece of asshole regardless of how good he was.
    because he didnt literally burn them smarty

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    what other basketball shoe tops Jordans?
    This is why you're a coon, you've actually thought about and ranked basketball shoes and think it's a big deal. They're ing shoes.

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    what other basketball shoe tops Jordans?
    Air Congo.

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    You are such an amazingly stereotypical coon.
    Gddamn

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    Like i said before, Jordan and Lebron could be the 2nd coming of Hitler and Mother Teresa respectively.

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