Zach Lowe NBA Awards Ballot..

[BillMc]

¨PART 2

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/15...-ballot-part-2


ALL-NBA

1st team

G: Russell Westbrook
G: Stephen Curry
F: LeBron James
F: Kawhi Leonard
C: DeAndre Jordan

2nd team

G: Kyle Lowry
G: Chris Paul
F: Draymond Green
F: Kevin Durant
C: Al Horford

3rd team

G: Klay Thompson
G: Damian Lillard
F: Paul George
F: Paul Millsap
C: Karl-Anthony Towns

ALL-DEFENSE

1st team

G: Chris Paul
G: Jimmy Butler
F: Kawhi Leonard
F: Draymond Green
C: Rudy Gobert


2nd team

G: Ricky Rubio
G: Avery Bradley
F: Paul George
F: Paul Millsap
C: DeAndre Jordan

* Reasons for no Aldridge or Duncan in AL NBA/ALL defense team:

How do the 48 win Hawks have 2 players on the list and the 67 win spurs 1?????

[SPURt]

How do the 48 win Hawks have 2 players on the list and the 67 win spurs 1?????

+1 I didn't even notice that

[SPURt]

http://www.si.com/nba/2016/04/11/nba...-anthony-towns

Here's SI's writer's awards. Spoiler: They mostly pick Kawhi for DPOY and unanimously pick Kerr for COY

[UZER]

It's going to piss me off if Raymond wins DPOY.

One of the problems some of the new media writers have is that they look at metrics and nothing but, so they'll see Raymond's higher DRPM vs. Kawhi and might call it a day.

But I'll go on record and say Raymond is one of the most overrated defenders in the league.

- The Warriors have a mediocre points-in-the paint defense. I know Raymond isn't a traditional paint anchor, but still.

- Raymond typically can't guard bigs 1-on-1 for long stretches, and (contrary to even my perception), the Warriors have been getting killed by 4-5s all season. It's not until they start swarming that opposing bigs begin to have trouble. Yet the metrics will disproportionally "credit" Raymond in these instances.

- The wing positions are much, much deeper in talent than the big positions. As a result of that, Kawhi will naturally be tasked with much more of a defensive load any given night.

- The Warriors offense. Their offense is arguably the most exhausting offense to defend in NBA history. You constantly have to switch. Chase Curry and Klay through a barrage of (illegal) screens. Constantly rotate to cover shooters and secondary action. By virtue of that, players will have less energy to expend on offense themselves, making defending other teams easier. It's like in the NFL. A best offense can also be your best defense. The Spurs offense these days, while relatively hard to defend, isn't necessarily "tiring."

- When Kawhi was out, the defense was on the level of the Lakers. Granted, it wasn't a huge sample size, but the team was giving up huge offensive games to the Suns and Lakers during that stretch.

I don't think it's an argument, but the "metrics."

You also have to understand their tendencies and preventively snuff them out.

Example:

When curry is bringing up the ball on a break / semi break, you have to go find Draymond and put a body on him, get in his way, etc because he in running straight to the three point line to set the pick for curry. He does it every time. A lot of little things like that will help to disrupt there flow and prevent the quick runs they go on.

[spursistan]

most of these picks were expected only for Paul George nosedive which costs him on most ballots..

[exstatic]

Why do you think this tbh? All the rumblings I've seen/read seem to have mouthbreather slightly ahead.

The guys on NBC sports loathe the Spurs, but all gave Kawhi the nod.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Some terrible choices by Lowe. He's usually spot on but his All NBA teams are bad. Al Hrfrd ffs!

Also, Gobert and Duncan have played the same number of games. Gobert plays like 5 more minutes and this makes him 1st team All-Defense but disqualifies a much better Duncan altogether? Jimmy Butler in the first All-Defense team? What year is this? Certainly not 2016.

[Tully365]

Kind of illogical to have Kawhi in second place for MVP, and not first for DPOY. The offensive gap between Kawhi and some other guys is fairly big. The only thing that could make up for that is what he does on the defensive side. If his defense is good enough to bring him to #2 on an MVP ballot, he would need to be defending well enough to be MVP.

That says to me that Zach is picking DPOY without really thinking about what he's saying. I guess that shouldn't be surprising.

Stranger things have happened-- in 2013, Marc Gasol won DPOY and then was named to the NBA's All defensive second team... Noah & Tyson Chandler made first team as centers...

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Oh and Jordan WTF

[Tully365]

To think of all those years that Duncan didn't win DPOY! Losing out to the likes of Marcus Camby... If advanced stats were more readily available back then, Duncan would definitely not be retiring without a DPOY award or two on his mantle...

[apalisoc_9]

Oh and Jordan WTF

Jordan has been awesome this year

[timtonymanu]

DJ was key for the Clips when Blake was out. I guess I don't see that choice being extreme. Center position is pretty much non existent these days.

[GSH]

Stranger things have happened-- in 2013, Marc Gasol won DPOY and then was named to the NBA's All defensive second team...

Oh, man, I had forgotten about that. That's like winning a primary and still getting fewer delegates.

[SAGirl]

How do the 48 win Hawks have 2 players on the list and the 67 win spurs 1?????

Wow good point! And we dominated them in our two matches, blowout territory.

[look_at_g_shred]

Rubio for an all defensive team????

[exstatic]

Stranger things have happened-- in 2013, Marc Gasol won DPOY and then was named to the NBA's All defensive second team... Noah & Tyson Chandler made first team as centers...

Gasol only won THAT because there was a tie and two Cs on the first team. Had one less person voted for either of them, he would have been bumped off the second team.

[exstatic]

Not sure that I'd give Pop a lot of credit for playing him 6 minutes a game then letting him go to Dallas as a free agent.

Lot more to development than game time.

[HarlemHeat37]

My all-NBA that will probably look completely different than the official selections :

1st team

G: Russell Westbrook
G: Stephen Curry
F: LeBron James
F: Kawhi Leonard
C: Draymond Green

2nd team

G: Kyle Lowry
G: Chris Paul
F: Paul Millsap
F: Kevin Durant
C: DeAndre Jordan

3rd team

G: James Harden
G: Damian Lillard
F: Paul George
F: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: DeMarcus Cousins

[BillMc]

My all-NBA that will probably look completely different than the official selections :

1st team

G: Russell Westbrook
G: Stephen Curry
F: LeBron James
F: Kawhi Leonard
C: Draymond Green

2nd team

G: Kyle Lowry
G: Chris Paul
F: Paul Millsap
F: Kevin Durant
C: DeAndre Jordan

3rd team

G: James Harden
G: Damian Lillard
F: Paul George
F: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: DeMarcus Cousins

Good list!

[apalisoc_9]

My all-NBA that will probably look completely different than the official selections :

1st team

G: Russell Westbrook
G: Stephen Curry
F: LeBron James
F: Kawhi Leonard
C: Draymond Green

2nd team

G: Kyle Lowry
G: Chris Paul
F: Paul Millsap
F: Kevin Durant
C: DeAndre Jordan

3rd team

G: James Harden
G: Damian Lillard
F: Paul George
F: LaMarcus Aldridge
C: DeMarcus Cousins

I was wondering, what If Draymond didnt get enough Center votes to make the center spot and because of all the center votes, he didnt make the 2nd team of the forward spot.

I'm confused.

I know kawhi had the 12 most votes last year but a couple of guards and center wth less made it. He had a few guard botes.

[HarlemHeat37]

I was wondering, what If Draymond didnt get enough Center votes to make the center spot and because of all the center votes, he didnt make the 2nd team of the forward spot.

I'm confused.

I know kawhi had the 12 most votes last year but a couple of guards and center wth less made it. He had a few guard botes.

The media has been very vocal about Draymond being eligible for the C spot, I don't think it'll a problem, tbh..

I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I really think the league wants to avoid having somebody like DeAndre Jordan or Al Horford on the 1st team

[Obstructed_View]

Lot more to development than game time.

I guess it's time to list all the development that Pop did, because I saw Mahinmi get yanked for mistakes and get benched for days at a time. It's the same he did to Splitter his first year and the same he did to Rasho and Nazr in 2006.

[loveforthegame]

Lots of love from Jason Jones who covers the Kings.

http://www.sacbee.com/sports/nba/sac...e72281702.html

Leonard 3rd MVP.
Leonard DPOY.
Leonard 1st all-NBA team.
Leonard and Green 1st defensive team.
LMA 2nd defensive team.

[Kawhitstorm]

-Klay is making the 3rd team over HarDone
-No way Love makes 3rd team over LMA
-Millsap is making All-NBA D 2nd team over Horford

Anthony Davis

Kanter has the highest PER of any bench player, FG%, WS/48, rebounds, & is the only player averaging 12/8 in 20 minutes. (He devoured Ed Davis)

Jeremy Lin has been inconsistent but he has had a couple of big games.

There is NO WAY Klay is being left off the All-NBA team, it was going to be b/w Lillard & HarDone...I think we know who's going to win that battle. Hopefully, Lowry doesn't get thrown under the bus b/c he's an afterthought for most casual fans.

Melo's 2013-14 season happened, Harden isn't a lock even as the 8th seed. (Not saying much when the Grizz are a HIGHER seed)