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They could also wait till they evaluate: Milutinov & Dangubic.
There is no cap space. Gay already signed his deal and it was the Non-Tax MLE. So that means, they cannot use cap space this year. A trade could still be possible and depending on whether or not SA is taking on salary it could be the hard cap is the reason Pau is not signed.
But Mills makes even less sense to me in this context as to why he's not formally signed.
They could also wait till they evaluate: Milutinov & Dangubic.
Could you imagine gs facing ok,Houston and then spurs in playoffs
Sure, but no matter what SA can only offer the min contracts or limited exception they have. Shouldn't matter unless there is no actual agreement that Pau will be back which seems HIGHLY unlikely.
If we trade Tony somewhere and attach a pick but take back no salary, doesn't a move like that open up around 15M in space to use elsewhere?
^ I agree, there is either a salary cap order to signing certain players, future moves still in the works, or a combination of both.
It could, but not really. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm 99% certain it was reported that Gay already signed his deal and it was the NTMLE used to sign him.
I don't think you can retroactively use cap space to sign Gay, but maybe I'm wrong.
I'm not sure either but, it's the only thing that makes sense to me. If it didn't work like that then there no plausible reason for them to delay sign g the guys they are bringing back.
That won't stop us from having a 400 page thread about it next summer.
Pretty sure they can't. But they might not have filed the contract with the league yet.
I read some stuff about a hard cap (assumption being the NTMLE) on twitter but it could very well be wrong.
Does Pau's opting out leave a cap hold?
So, the Spurs aren't over the cap yet unless you count cap holds, so how would they be able to use the MLE unless there's someway to transition from the MLE to capspace instead? There has to be some kind of provision built in that if they don't end up over the cap from resigning their own free agents then they'd have to leave enough cap room to fit that Gay contract, right?
A massive one.
it's the opposite. You only have cap space if you actually renounce the cap holds. the cap holds are the guaranteed thing here.
Sure, but what happens then if the Spurs reounce all their free agents today and then sign everyone to min contracts and end up under the cap?
They can't if we are to believe that Gay signed using the MLE. SA could renounce Pau and is cap hold is gone, but that alone would not put them far enough under the cap to not have the MLE still in play IIRC
But in theory, since it's not official, if SA renounced let's say Pau/Manu/Simmons/Mills cap holds, I'm assuming Gay's contract would then become in violation and it would be converted to cap space. But not sure.
If they renounced everyone I think they only have about 85 million in salary and are under the cap by way more than the MLE though.
If LeBron wants to play for Pop it will. Of course he would have to handle the situation good like tell the Cavs fans I will be back and end my career as a Cavalier. San Antonio Spurs is the only team LeBron could leave Cleveland for and he won't get ripped by the fans and the media. So it's your opinion, ain't impossible but I wouldn't bet the farm on it either.
Yeah me either but it does seem as though there has to be a way to convert MLE deals to capspace deals in this type of situation.
Yeah, they would definitely have their work cut out for them having to injure all those players.
Some team needs to have a brawl vs those Warriors, pretty sure Curry would go hide behind Durant. Warriors are so soft, Green with his big tough guy act. ZaZa deserves to get tripped out there for what he did to Kawhi. Of course violence doesn't solve anything and it's not a good way to resolve problems it's just that todays NBA is softer than jello. I wish some team vs Warriors would not take their crap with Green and ZaZa.
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I don't understand any of that honestly.
Can you put in simple, non CBA terms for me... like:
are you suspecting a trade is happening...
I tend to attribute the hold up to JSimms...
The hold up is most likely due to Simmons. They'll try to fit in his new salary + Pau's + Gay's and stay below the tax. They may even want to pay Manu if there's some room left.
Depending on the other contracts it's also possible that Mills's contract could be a bit less than originally announced, just like Danny Green eventually got a bit less in 2015.
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