Schultz in 2020

[Will Hunting]

Presidential Run After Finding No Initial Support Among Any Voter Groups



SEATTLE—Expressing concerns that Democratic and Republican parties no longer represented people like him,

former Starbucks CEO Howard Schultz revealed Monday that he was considering an independent presidential run after finding no initial support among any American voter groups.

“The complete lack of support for my candidacy among narrow interest groups like liberals, conservatives, and moderates tells me that America is hungry for an independent voice,”

said Schultz, after

preliminary polling found little to no support for his presidential bid among

Democrats,
African-Americans,
evangelicals,
working-class whites,
suburbanites,
Republicans,
millennials,
Hispanics,
men, or
women.

“Our political system has been overrun by people with opinions and ideas.

This country should not be beholden to someone who constantly fights for American values.

Our nation clearly wants an independent voice who does not speak for any of them.

I know that I can win by rising above partisan squabbles

by bringing together a large coalition of nobody whatsoever.”

At press time,

the announcement that Schultz was considering a presidential bid had

received a highly positive reaction from Howard Schultz.

https://politics.theonion.com/howard-schultz-considering-independent-presidential-run-1832126653

Just FYI, even when you link the onion by trying to make it white text in really small font, it's still obvious that this is from the onion.

[boutons_deux]

Objectively he seems like more of a moderate conservative candidate

moderate?

Howard Schultz’s 2020 policies:

Reduce the debt,

cut en lements,

oppose:

Medicare for all and

taxes on wealthy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-po...=.28f19bac80af



He won't be getting many Dem votes with those policies. Howie would split votes away from Trash.

[Spurminator]

I would vote for just about anyone that ran against Trump in the primary.

Good luck, hope you get the opportunity.

The South Carolina Republican Party could cancel its marquee presidential nominating contest in 2020 in a move to protect President Trump from any primary challengers.

Drew McKissick, chairman of the South Carolina GOP, said he doesn’t anticipate Trump would face a primary challenge and emphasized that the state party executive committee hasn’t held any formal discussions about the contest, dubbed “first in the South” and usually third on the presidential nominating calendar. But McKissick would pointedly not rule out canceling the primary, indicating that that would be his preference.


“We have complete autonomy and flexibility in either direction,” McKissick told the Washington Examiner on Tuesday. “Considering the fact that the entire party supports the president, we’ll end up doing what’s in the president’s best interest.”

...
To minimize potential political hurdles for Trump, some state parties could move to scrap their 2020 presidential primaries. Already a long shot, the unavailability of one or more high-profile primary contests could further hamstring the odds of any Republican who dares to run against Trump in 2020. There is precedent for this strategy, even when less uncertainty has swirled around the in bent president.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...-protect-trump

[Spurminator]

moderate?

Howard Schultz’s 2020 policies:

Reduce the debt,

cut en lements,

oppose:

Medicare for all and

taxes on wealthy

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-po...=.28f19bac80af



He won't be getting many Dem votes with those policies. Howie would split votes away from Trash.

That's why I said moderate conservative, dummy.

[Will Hunting]

Pretty funny article though , the only people who seem to actually like Schultz running are conservatives who won't ever vote for him but like him for "triggering the libruhls"

[Spurminator]

I assumed it was Borowitz but the headline was actually funny so I knew it had to be The Onion.

[boutons_deux]

That's why I said moderate conservative, dummy.

there's NOTHING moderate there, dummy. It's straight oligarchy

[Spurminator]

there's NOTHING moderate there, dummy. It's straight oligarchy

Please describe, in detail, what you consider to be moderate conservative positions.

[spurraider21]

Please describe, in detail, what you consider to be moderate conservative positions.

i remember when i asked koriwhat to explain to me what he thought a true liberal was and he basically gave a bunch of conservative positions

i expect booboo's answer to be that no such thing exists

[boutons_deux]

CosmicCowboy

I would vote for just about anyone that ran against Trump in the primary."

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RNC Members Want To Block A Primary Challenge To Trump, But The Rules May Stop Them

https://www.npr.org/2019/01/04/681987077/rnc-members-want-to-block-a-primary-challenge-to-trump-but-the-rules-may-stop-th

There may be a pretender or two, but they will be buried under lies, slander, from the Repug establishment,

will make DNC screwing Bernie seem like child's play

[Spurminator]

i remember when i asked koriwhat to explain to me what he thought a true liberal was and he basically gave a bunch of conservative positions

i expect booboo's answer to be that no such thing exists

Like, I hesitate to call Medicare for All a "radical" position since a majority of the country supports it, but I certainly wouldn't call opposition to it radical either.

[Chris]

Here's how you solve it. Model our needlessly convoluted modern immigration system after the one we had for, I don't know, a century and a half that seemed to work fine. I'm talking of the Ellis Island model.



https://www.history.com/news/immigra...rocessing-time

Give potential immigrants a safe port(s) they know they can go to if they want to become US citizens. Process them quickly and painlessly and issue five year work visas to those that qualify (i.e. you got some gang tattoo on you, nope). Issue them the same probationary conditions as the DACA kids. Your work visa is valid only if you are employed and have no criminal record. If you've proven yourself to be a good citizen after the five year work visa has expired, you're granted full citizenship. One of the drivers of illegal immigration is because some poor Central American doesn't have the time nor money (hiring of immigration lawyers) to go through the "legal" process when he has a family to feed.

Nearly every American is the child, grandchild, great-grandchild, etc of an immigrant. So I ask, why was it okay for our ancestors escaping famine, war, persecution to be basically "let in," but it's not okay for these people? "Well, cartels, crime, assimilation..." The nativists said the exact same things about the Irish, Italian, and Slavic immigrants back then. CosmicCowboy brought up the fact they get on social services. I agree. No social services during that five year probationary period.

You can overhaul and tinker with the immigration system all you like but until you put up a physical barrier there will always be incentive to cut the corners. You say process them quickly and painlessly but the reality is a lot of the economic migrants come here without any kind of do entation and can create a new iden y, so your backround check/criminal record is now obsolete. Let's say we issue work visas to 5,000 immigrants and only 1,000 show up to to renew their visas. What are you going to do about the other 4,000 that gamed the system and set up a new iden y? That's quite the burden you are giving to ICE to clean up your mess because of some silly poem at the base of the Statue of Liberty at Ellis Island.


If you really wanted to solve the problem you would send the United States military into Mexico and eliminate the cartels. What's Mexico going to do about it?

[CosmicCowboy]

You can overhaul and tinker with the immigration system all you like but until you put up a physical barrier there will always be incentive to cut the corners. You say process them quickly and painlessly but the reality is a lot of the economic migrants come here without any kind of do entation and can create a new iden y, so your backround check/criminal record is now obsolete. Let's say we issue work visas to 5,000 immigrants and only 1,000 show up to to renew their visas. What are you going to do about the other 4,000 that gamed the system and set up a new iden y? That's quite the burden you are giving to ICE to clean up your mess because of some silly poem at the base of the Statue of Liberty at Ellis Island.


If you really wanted to solve the problem you would send the United States military into Mexico and eliminate the cartels. What's Mexico going to do about it?

da ?

US isn't sending the military into Mexico. Most of this recent wave of illegals isn't from Mexico anyway.

[Isitjustme?]

This thread is getting off topic but one last thing that strangely echos my sentiments:

Chris cares about these immigrant women and children deeply

Until they want asylum then he would shoot them like rats as they try to cross the border most likely

[Chris]

da ?

US isn't sending the military into Mexico. Most of this recent wave of illegals isn't from Mexico anyway.

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

[CosmicCowboy]

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

So Trump says stupid . What else is new?

[Chris]

So Trump says stupid . What else is new?

You said the US isn't sending the military in to Mexico. I'm showing you proof that there is a strong possibility. Your opinion of Trump is irrelevant.

[Pavlov]

"You have a bunch of bad hombres down there," Trump told Pena Nieto, according to the excerpt seen by the AP. "You aren't doing enough to stop them. I think your military is scared. Our military isn't, so I just might send them down to take care of it."

he won't.

He might invade Venezuela though. Would you approve of that?

[spurraider21]

i mean if trump is just going to disregard mexico's autonomy and sovereignty then there's really no justification to stop any immigration from mexico tbh

[Chris]

Damn

[Spurminator]

Two years into his Presidency, if you think something Trump said at a campaign rally about military action is evidence of any "strong possibility" of anything, you're a hopeless fool.

[Trainwreck2100]

Schultz would take the anti trump white person vote the Dems think they need. Which is kinda funny because they'll probably once again nominate someone white people see as worse than trump again, anyway

[CosmicCowboy]

Schultz would take the anti trump white person vote the Dems think they need. Which is kinda funny because they'll probably once again nominate someone white people see as worse than trump again, anyway

This is highly likely.

[baseline bum]

Pretty funny article though , the only people who seem to actually like Schultz running are conservatives who won't ever vote for him but like him for "triggering the libruhls"

[SpursforSix]

Pretty funny article though , the only people who seem to actually like Schultz running are conservatives who won't ever vote for him but like him for "triggering the libruhls"

idk...I know a lot of people that voted for Trump that are ready for this storm to be over. They'd probably vote Dem if it wasn't someone from the far left.