OT: Futbol. Walkball?

[FkLA]

No, your argument is based out of bias. You won't reply to this and conveniently leave the thread after I drop these facts yet again.

Do you think there's physical specimens in baseball just because they enjoy looking muscular? Are you really that in' dumb? World Series have been won and lost because a player wasn't fast enough to beat out a throw or chase down a flyball. They've been won and lost on stolen bases. This suggests speed is a pretty in' important part of the sport. Your hero Ronaldo (GOAT soccer athlete) would only have middle-tier speed among position players. So if the sport is a "joke physically," Ronaldo is laughable, right? If it's a joke physically, why are there 14 Yankees on the DL, right now? Your canned reply will be something along the lines of them being fat or something. Nope.

Aaron Judge - physical specimen, torn oblique during a swing.
Stanton - specimen, bicep strain (probably during a swing)
Clint Frazier - specimen, ankle

I can go on, but I assure you all the following players are specimens, but yet are getting sidelined by in game demands. You wouldn't know what those are, since you never played, but I'd rather trot around for a few miles than throw 100 pitches or have a 10 pitch at bat against an MLB pitcher.

Oh woopdido, there's injuries in fatball.

Injuries can happen even in everyday life, buddy. The fact that they happen in fatball isn't some testament to how demanding it is. 6 miles in an entire season, .0375 miles per game, playing everyday for months in a row, doubleheaders, etc. All that speaks for itself. All the physical specimen in fatball are wasting their incredible talent on such a fat, lazy sport. No way around it, tbh.

[FkLA]

No league MVP has been fat.

Shaq was at his peak when he was at his fattest and even admitted to having a diet and not working out .

Charles Barkley, too.

Fielder never won an MVP?

Off the top of my head, Cabrera is fat. Ryan Howard was pretty chunky. Fat Albert too. And what about the Babe?

[midnightpulp]

Oh woopdido, there's injuries in fatball.

Injuries can happen even in everyday life, buddy. The fact that they happen in fatball isn't some testament to how demanding it is. 6 miles in an entire season, .0375 miles per game, playing everyday for months in a row, doubleheaders, etc. All that speaks for itself. All the physical specimen in fatball are wasting their incredible talent on such a fat, lazy sport. No way around it, tbh.

Now injuries don't count

Just admit you're biased against baseball because you were absolutely trash at it. Aaron Judge is wasting his talent hitting 500 foot bombs? What other sport can you do that in? If Aaron Judge went to football, he'd be another TE doing relatively low skill feats like catching a slow moving football and blocking. You see that every game in the NFL. Nolan Arenado is wasting his talent throwing runners out from his knees at over 150 feet away? Jordan Hicks is wasting his talent throwing 104 mph fastballs?

Calling you out again. Lazy sport? Should be easy, then. Fire up the old smart phone and take your ass down to the batting cages and see how you do facing 90mph. Then after that, make those 120 foot throws from SS like you claimed you can.

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Deflecting with one liners.

You set the goal posts (distance cover=athleticism). DoK shot that down. You're the ones scrambling for an out now.

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Per game football is still in front by far. Not to mention in golf all they do is literally walk (the true walkball )

Also using ML

[midnightpulp]

Fielder never won an MVP?

Off the top of my head, Cabrera is fat. Ryan Howard was pretty chunky. Fat Albert too. And what about the Babe?

No. Fielder was an average player overall.

Do you think any and all mass equals fat? I guess when you watch povertyball, you get used to feminine bodies so much, anyone with mass looks fat.



During MVP season:



That isn't fat. This is fat, the best D-lineman of his generation.



"B-But football is different!"

Sure.

[FkLA]

Now injuries don't count

Just admit you're biased against baseball because you were absolutely trash at it. Aaron Judge is wasting his talent hitting 500 foot bombs? What other sport can you do that in? If Aaron Judge went to football, he'd be another TE doing relatively low skill feats like catching a slow moving football and blocking. You see that every game in the NFL. Nolan Arenado is wasting his talent throwing runners out from his knees at over 150 feet away? Jordan Hicks is wasting his talent throwing 104 mph fastballs?

Calling you out again. Lazy sport? Should be easy, then. Fire up the old smart phone and take your ass down to the batting cages and see how you do facing 90mph. Then after that, make those 120 foot throws from SS like you claimed you can.

When have I said fatball is easy? Admittedly, I sucked at hitting. Fielding came easier to me. But it being difficult doesn't change the fact that it's a bunch of standing around/sitting on the bench. Waste of talent if you're a physical specimen, while the fatties take advantage of the liberties that such a fat, lazy game allows.

[FkLA]

No. Fielder was an average player overall.

Do you think any and all mass equals fat? I guess when you watch povertyball, you get used to feminine bodies so much, anyone with mass looks fat.



During MVP season:



That isn't fat. This is fat, the best D-lineman of his generation.



"B-But football is different!"

Sure.

Really bruh?

[midnightpulp]

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Per game football is still in front by far. Not to mention in golf all they do is literally walk (the true walkball )

Also using ML

You miss the point. You and the crew have used how much movement there is an sport to determine its "demands." DoK's graph was showing it's a dumb way to determine it. And the fact your crew hasn't responded to is why do you think covering 7 miles over 2 in' hours (half time break) is some amazing feat of endurance? Yes, they move around more in soccer, but if you think a professional athlete in baseball, football, or even in golf would be totally wasted by 7 miles over 2 hours, just . Jose Fernandez was biking 600 miles per week.

[FkLA]

Oh and prime Fielder was a perennial all-star. Don't be dishonest now.

[midnightpulp]

Really bruh?

Do you see some huge in' gut in the right picture? Only area that looks fat is his face. Show me the MVP that looks like Vince Wilfork.

[midnightpulp]

Oh and prime Fielder was a perennial all-star. Don't be dishonest now.

All star selections. Fan voted. Look at his WAR. Average player for the majority of his career aside from one 6.4 season.

[FkLA]

Do you see some huge in' gut in the right picture? Only area that looks fat is his face. Show me the MVP that looks like Vince Wilfork.

Oh, so now you have to be obese to be fat?

Let me guess, Cabrera is just big boned? Probably shredded under the jersey?

[midnightpulp]

When have I said fatball is easy? Admittedly, I sucked at hitting. Fielding came easier to me. But it being difficult doesn't change the fact that it's a bunch of standing around/sitting on the bench. Waste of talent if you're a physical specimen, while the fatties take advantage of the liberties that such a fat, lazy game allows.

There's way more fatties in the NFL. You didn't play tackle football, either, and that sport is considerably lazier than baseball, since the skill and mental demands are a joke. Only the QB is really tasked with doing anything that resembles skill. No, route running and catching a slow moving ball you know is coming aren't particularly demanding skill sets.

You're saying it's easy labelling it as lazy. It's a passive-aggressive insult. Nothing that is difficult is lazy. Baseball is much more difficult than football and basketball (you won't find a Dewayne Dedmon in the MLB, a guy who first saw a basketball at 20 and become a decent NBA player), and therefore the more demanding sport, despite how much moving around there is.

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You miss the point. You and the crew have used how much movement there is an sport to determine its "demands." DoK's graph was showing it's a dumb way to determine it. And the fact your crew hasn't responded to is why do you think covering 7 miles over 2 in' hours (half time break) is some amazing feat of endurance? Yes, they move around more in soccer, but if you think a professional athlete in baseball, football, or even in golf would be totally wasted by 7 miles over 2 hours, just . Jose Fernandez was biking 600 miles per week.

No I dont you're reaching because you have nothing else to cling to anymore tbh

Also, using MLass

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Really bruh?

[apalisoc_9]

MVP MVP MVP

[midnightpulp]

Oh, so now you have to be obese to be fat?

Let me guess, Cabrera is just big boned? Probably shredded under the jersey?

When most people think fat, they think someone who looks like Vince Wilfork. And again, where's the huge, protruding gut on Cabrera? You also neglect the realities of strength training. Not everyone can put on pounds of mass through muscle alone. You can lift and lift and not gain and still look soft. So then you have no choice but to add weight through fat.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/tr...lding-genetics

This man pulled off one of the greatest sports feats in history.



Side gut spilling over his tights. Overall chunky. His body type is worse than Cabrera's.

But I'm not simplistic enough to relate athleticism to body type.

[midnightpulp]

No I dont you're reaching because you have nothing else to cling to anymore tbh

Also, using MLass

: MLS doesn't count.

Its movement stats are the same as EPL. You remember they are also factoring goalies.

And yes, you miss the point. Golf is more athletic than soccer per your logic.

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tickle fight time!!!

[Will Hunting]

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Per game football is still in front by far. Not to mention in golf all they do is literally walk (the true walkball )

Also using ML

this is the most arbitrary criteria being made up as doublehandjobball fans go along.

”They cover more distance than any other sport so the fact they’re walking most of the time doesn’t matter!”

”They cover less ground than golfers do..”

”Well in golf they’re walking ALL the time instead of most of the time so that obviously doesn’t count!”

[midnightpulp]

Oh, and if FkLA sucked at hitting, I don't see how fielding came easy if he was never on the field to try his fielding skills . (I know he didn't play organized baseball, either). Dad hitting slow grounders to you in the backyard doesn't count.

Point is, FKLA evaluates sports from a position of never having played them seriously, reducing "demand" down to how much moving he sees on the television screen.

[midnightpulp]

this is the most arbitrary criteria being made up as doublehandjobball fans go along.

”They cover more distance than any other sport so the fact they’re walking most of the time doesn’t matter!”

”They cover less ground than golfers do..”

”Well in golf they’re walking ALL the time instead of most of the time so that obviously doesn’t count!”

And now they're going with "per game" . More bad logic.

Hmmm, I average 5 miles per run, but only run once a week. The neighbor runs 2 miles every day. Over the course of the week, his regimen was more demanding. Same with golf vis a vis soccer. They play 4 rounds per week, while soccer has two games per week. Thus, playing golf is a more a demanding physical regimen. The stats don't lie. Golfers simply move more than soccer players over their week/season.

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: MLS doesn't count.

Its movement stats are the same as EPL. You remember they are also factoring goalies.

And yes, you miss the point. Golf is more athletic than soccer per your logic.

Again, no I don't Golfers literally walk all that distance so it's meaningless. Also lol at 34 games, any mid tier team in a respectable league will play a lot more than that in a season. Which brings me to my other point: using MLass

Boiled down:::once again those cute little numbers and stats don't mean a thing gjge though

[Will Hunting]

And now they're going with "per game" . More bad logic.

Hmmm, I average 5 miles per run, but only run once a week. The neighbor runs 2 miles every day. Over the course of the week, his regimen was more demanding. Same with golf vis a vis soccer. They play 4 rounds per week, while soccer has two games per week. Thus, playing golf is a more a demanding physical regimen. The stats don't lie. Golfers simply move more than soccer players over their week/season.

It’s an arbitrary horse argument

Obviously even the most active NFL players during a game (wide receivers and corners) aren’t covering 7 miles a game when they’re mostly sprinting or running near full speed. Even with the rule changes, running 7 miles as a receiver while getting constantly mugged and tackled and having to block on running plays would be a physically impossible task , your body would shut down at some point.

[FkLA]

There's way more fatties in the NFL. You didn't play tackle football, either, and that sport is considerably lazier than baseball, since the skill and mental demands are a joke. Only the QB is really tasked with doing anything that resembles skill. No, route running and catching a slow moving ball you know is coming aren't particularly demanding skill sets.

I can agree that some positions in football can be pretty lazy too. Not sure how they're on par with fatball though. It's not like linemen are just standing around not doing 99% of the time like non-pitcher fatball players are.

You're saying it's easy labelling it as lazy. It's a passive-aggressive insult. Nothing that is difficult is lazy. Baseball is much more difficult than football and basketball (you won't find a Dewayne Dedmon in the MLB, a guy who first saw a basketball at 20 and become a decent NBA player), and therefore the more demanding sport, despite how much moving around there is.

Don't twist what I'm saying to fit your little narrative, bruh. I'm flat out telling you I don't think fatball is easy. That doesn't change the fact that the game itself is just a bunch of standing around most of the time. Dispute that for me.

When most people think fat, they think someone who looks like Vince Wilfork. And again, where's the huge, protruding gut on Cabrera? You also neglect the realities of strength training. Not everyone can put on pounds of mass through muscle alone. You can lift and lift and not gain and still look soft. So then you have no choice but to add weight through fat.

https://www.t-nation.com/training/tr...lding-genetics

This man pulled off one of the greatest sports feats in history.



Side gut spilling over his tights. Overall chunky. His body type is worse than Cabrera's.

But I'm not simplistic enough to relate athleticism to body type.

I like how you're Mr. scientific until it doesn't benefit your argument. Just lol at using general consensus or a protruding gut as a way to determine fatness. The dude is overweight, period. Which is just embarrassing for a professional "athlete".

So now you know Cabrera's genetics? Are you sure that's the only way he could've gained "mass"? Why didn't he cut after his dirty bulk?

He was already a great player when he was skinny anyways. It's not like he needed to get bigger to help his career. Face it, the dude just took advantage of the liberties fatball afforded him and got fat. Btw I'm pretty sure Cabrera would look worse than that guy in a skin tight suit.