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My position is lol you and hopefully your family takes away all your privileges.
If stupid people can vote, people with medical conditions should be able to vote.
My position is lol you and hopefully your family takes away all your privileges.
How does one prove to be mentally able when registering to vote?
Fixed it for you.
I don't know what Trump supporters are complaining about. Pretty much all the vote and ballot fraud in the past two federal elections has been done for Republicans.
...by registering to vote?
Then the first half of number 3 is unnecessary
LOL! Not even close. I give you the over three million votes by non-citizens, or more. Then all the Democrat votes by the dead and the made up. Let's not forget the multiple voters. Then there is the Democrat invention, the totally non-voting votes. (For an example of this, check out LBJ's first win as a US Senator.)
Good point.
I agree, my number 3 is poorly worded.
Where is your proof of vote and ballot fraud the past two federal elections?
Back up your claim.
Avante’s senile brotherwhose troll is this?... just when everyone pretty much agreed Othyus Lalanne (sp?) was the worst poster in recent memory, we get somebody to take the crown...
I see your three billion Democrat votes and counter (just as credibly) with the 250 bajillion fraudulent Republican votes from the last election.
Check mate, asswipe.
He said 3 million OR MORE though
Op was military and thinks there shouldn't be taxes. Don't know why anyone responds.
The only voting fraud we found in the last election was Republicans literally stealing votes from mail in voters by going door to door claiming to be election officials.
https://www.gq.com/story/north-carol...n-fraud-harris
Since you are new here, you have missed out on the thorough debunking of hte "3 million votes by non-citizens" claim. I strongly urge you to try to find actual evidence of this. You won't.
But try. I call bull on the claim. Your claim, your burden of proof.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 04-30-2019 at 01:09 PM.
You don't see a problem with the fact that the U.S. Census gives heavily democratic areas of the country more seats in Congress because undo ented immigrants are ALSO being counted for representation?
I'm sure some of the effect cancels itself out (seats appropriated to California vs. seats appropriated to Texas). But the practice of misappropriating Congressional seats, on account of misrepresenting the population citizens must end.
I will though, give you the starter kit for debunking this conspiracy theory. It may shock you to know, but the main snake oil salesman for this, the guy pushing this ridiculous theory actually got his day in court. It was comically bad.
How the Case for Voter Fraud Was Tested — and Utterly Failed
....when the top proponent was challenged in a Kansas courtroom to prove that such fraud is rampant, the claims went up in smoke.
https://www.propublica.org/article/k...d-kansas-trialFor Kobach, the trial should’ve been a moment of glory. He’s been arguing for a decade that voter fraud is a national calamity. Much of his career has been built on this issue, along with his fervent opposition to illegal immigration. (His claim is that unlawful immigrants are precisely the ones voting illegally.) Kobach, who also co-chaired the Trump administration’s short-lived commission on voter fraud, is perhaps the individual most identified with the cause of sniffing out and eradicating phony voter registration. He’s got a gilded resume, with degrees from Harvard University, Yale Law School and the University of Oxford, and is seen as both the intellect behind the cause and its prime advocate. Kobach has written voter laws in other jurisdictions and defended them in court. If anybody ever had time to marshal facts and arguments before a trial, it was Kobach.
But things didn’t go well for him in the Kansas City courtroom, as Robinson’s opinion made clear. Kobach’s strongest evidence of non-citizen registration was anemic at best: Over a 20-year period, fewer than 40 non-citizens had attempted to register in one Kansas county that had 130,000 voters. Most of those 40 improper registrations were the result of mistakes or confusion rather than intentional attempts to mislead, and only five of the 40 managed to cast a vote.
One of Kobach’s own experts even rebutted arguments made by both Kobach and President Donald Trump. The expert testified that a handful of improper registrations could not be extrapolated to conclude that 2.8 million fraudulent votes — roughly, the gap between Hillary Clinton and Trump in the popular vote tally — had been cast in the 2016 presidential election. Testimony from a second key expert for Kobach also fizzled.
As the judge’s opinion noted, Kobach insisted the meager instances of cheating revealed at trial are just “the tip of the iceberg.” As she explained, “This trial was his opportunity to produce credible evidence of that iceberg, but he failed to do so.” Dismissing the testimony by Kobach’s witnesses as unpersuasive, Robinson drew what she called “the more obvious conclusion that there is no iceberg; only an icicle largely created by confusion and administrative error.”
Read the article, read the accounts of the trial. This guy was THE top guy for this conspiracy theory. He gave it his best shot.
Last edited by RandomGuy; 04-30-2019 at 01:12 PM.
Quantify the effect. If memory serves the studies I have seen say the opposite. I could be wrong, but if you want to claim either way, the burden of proof is on you for that.
Googley boogely. Long time no see.Avante’s senile brother
Hey! I pop in a couple times a week to read the forums. I gotta keep those ol’ eyeroll muscles in shape you know
I'm saying undo ented immigrants shouldn't be counted at all until they become legal residents or citizens - hence the need for a "Citizenship Question" on the U.S. Census Survey. The question is trying to be added back on the U.S. Census Survey, but that effort is now being challenged by the courts (surprise, surprise) even though it had been on every U.S. Census prior to the last one. So the question begs, why are Democrats so keen on keeping that particular question out?
Last edited by Phenomanul; 04-30-2019 at 02:12 PM.
OK, I'll buy that.
So, let me get this straight, if it is on the internet it is true. No link, then not true.
this guy...
https://www.brennancenter.org/analys...sus-litigation
You'll notice that the judicial districts challenging the legality of the "Citizenship" question are mostly heavily Democratic districts. They're protecting their wild card.
Ain't it the truth.
Who do you think ought to be able to vote in federal elections?
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