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    If the south could count 3/5 of their slaves toward congressional and electoral representation I don't see why California shouldn't be able to count 3/5 of their s.
    Why? Because it was wrong to count any of the slaves and it is just as wrong to count all the illegals.

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    Why? Because it was wrong to count any of the slaves and it is just as wrong to count all the illegals.
    the cons ution says you're supposed to count all persons for representation though, not just permanent residents or citizens

    Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed

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    the cons ution says you're supposed to count all persons for representation though, not just permanent residents or citizens

    Representatives shall be apportioned among the several States according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each State, excluding Indians not taxed
    Who knew there would be tens of millions of illegals? I would think that an AG in say Iowa or Oklahoma would use the Federal government to NOT count any illegals. Tens of millions of illegals steal the proper representations of those states with few illegals. That is just not Cons utional.

    So sue, baby, sue!

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    Lol... assumptions make an ass out of you. I’m a Mexican-born American Citizen.
    As long as you have an atheist in your avatar we good

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    Who knew there would be tens of millions of illegals? I would think that an AG in say Iowa or Oklahoma would use the Federal government to NOT count any illegals. Tens of millions of illegals steal the proper representations of those states with few illegals. That is just not Cons utional.

    So sue, baby, sue!
    Seems like your advocating for the “living breathing do ent” model of interpretation of the cons ution.

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    Seems like your advocating for the “living breathing do ent” model of interpretation of the cons ution.
    not even close

    i am advocating the enforcement of our laws

    i have no problem with counting everyone so long as all those here illegally are removed

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    not even close

    i am advocating the enforcement of our laws

    i have no problem with counting everyone so long as all those here illegally are removed
    you want to ignore the text of the cons ution (which says all persons) because "who knew what things would be like today?" and want to interpret that clause in accordance with modern cir stances

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    No you are sitting there in smug cynicism trying to pretend that illegal immigration DOESN’T affect our federal elections process. You’ve dodged acknowledgement of that simple fact over and over again and still have the audacity to call me out for your own intellectual dishonesty...
    It doesn't affect the election process at all. It affects proportional representation just as it has from the beginning.

    You have to change the Cons ution if you don't like it.

    Get to it.

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    if equal representation in congress is a really big deal to you, you should probably start with the senate anyway

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    Who knew there would be tens of millions of illegals?
    Who knew people who don't own land and blacks would be able to buy AR-15s?

    Do you really want to go down this road?

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    Who knew people who don't own land and blacks would be able to buy AR-15s?

    Do you really want to go down this road?
    lol wut?

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    Oh, you don't understand?

    lol derp

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    Oh, you don't understand?

    lol derp
    Let's not talk about 10 mil plus illegals cos blacks with AR-15s.
    Let's not go down that road.
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    I think that the entire population of Mexico ought be counted towards the total population of the United
    States. These population numbers should go towards the representation of the states of NY, IL, WA, OR, MA, and CA.

    Then just look at all the great that this nation could do. End rich people. End the Second Amendment. Release all people of color from prison. Ban the use of carbon based fuels. Provide all adults with an annual income regardless of work done. Shutdown all religions except for Islam. Pay massive reparations to all African Americans for slavery.

    Life would be good! America would be great!

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    Census gives heavily democratic areas of the country more seats in Congress
    I'm saying undo ented immigrants shouldn't be counted at all until they become legal residents or citizens - hence the need for a "Citizenship Question" on the U.S. Census Survey. The question is trying to be added back on the U.S. Census Survey, but that effort is now being challenged by the courts (surprise, surprise) even though it had been on every U.S. Census prior to the last one. So the question begs, why are Democrats so keen on keeping that particular question out?
    So, you can't quantify it, and were talking out of your ass. Understood.

    That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

    Then you shift the burden of proof. "why do Democrats"...


    Answer me this, why do Republicans want it in the first place? Prove a need or VALID, EVIDENCE based problem.

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    I think that the entire population of Mexico ought be counted towards the total population of the United
    States. These population numbers should go towards the representation of the states of NY, IL, WA, OR, MA, and CA.

    Then just look at all the great that this nation could do. End rich people. End the Second Amendment. Release all people of color from prison. Ban the use of carbon based fuels. Provide all adults with an annual income regardless of work done. Shutdown all religions except for Islam. Pay massive reparations to all African Americans for slavery.

    Life would be good! America would be great!
    Don't know why one would want to keep islam out of all the religions. It is just as ty as all the other myths about magic people in the sky.

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    So, you can't quantify it, and were talking out of your ass. Understood.

    That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.

    Then you shift the burden of proof. "why do Democrats"...


    Answer me this, why do Republicans want it in the first place? Prove a need or VALID, EVIDENCE based problem.
    Seems like it would be good to have a fairly "hard" number on how many non-citizens are living in the US. Why wouldn't you want that?

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    Let's not talk about 10 mil plus illegals cos blacks with AR-15s.
    Let's not go down that road.
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    Too complex for you. I understand.

    Words are hard for you too.

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    all legal american citizens with exception of prisioners serving sentence for murder or child abuse tbqh.

    and those prisioners should get their voting right back provided they rejoined society after their release.

    very ing simple. not sure why this is even a topic

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    Seems like it would be good to have a fairly "hard" number on how many non-citizens are living in the US. Why wouldn't you want that?
    "hard" number? what is that?

    the number they use now is pretty ing accurate. no need for a "hard" number unless you want it to a hard numberette

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    "hard" number? what is that?

    the number they use now is pretty ing accurate. no need for a "hard" number unless you want it to a hard numberette
    what number is that and how do you know it s accurate?

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    Too complex for you. I understand.

    Words are hard for you too.
    No, you're the only idiot calling for not talking about illegal aliens based on blacks with guns.

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    Seems like it would be good to have a fairly "hard" number on how many non-citizens are living in the US. Why wouldn't you want that?
    It's 11 million year after year.

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    No, you're the only idiot calling for not talking about illegal aliens based on blacks with guns.
    no

    You're ignorant and angry about it. I get it.

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