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completely deck
11-06-2009, 02:27 PM
The critics are tough on the men in black here on SpursTalk. Tonight's game could be a good barometer of how true (or hopefully false) the critics are.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4185/rosegardenarenainterior.jpg

Arena Info:
Arena: Rose Garden, Portland, OR
Capacity: 20,630

Game Info:
Start: 5:30 AM Iraq, 3:30 AM GMT, 1:30 AM Brazil, 12:30 AM Argentina, 10:30 PM Eastern, 9:30 PM Central, 7:30 PM Pacific.
Spurs Injuries: None.
Trailblazers Injuries: None.
Television: ESPN, National; KENS HD (Local); KGW HD (Local)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9707/116200912554pm.jpg

Game Previews: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138622

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elec99
11-06-2009, 02:34 PM
I need to see energy at this point, specifically some tenacious D. Arms flailing on D, ball poking on D, alot of help D even if it results in a blocking foul. I need to see some D. I'm going to set my sights low and not worry about execution or even the W, but i have to see that they want it.

This team 'probably' has the most new significant additions of any team this year, so chemistry will come, but you can't teach energy.

Morg1411
11-06-2009, 02:42 PM
:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::f lag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::fla g::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

(I obviously didn't use enough flags last night, so I vowed to correct that problem.)

xtremesteven33
11-06-2009, 02:52 PM
-Limit TO's
-Defense
-Defense
-Defense

bdictjames
11-06-2009, 03:02 PM
Jefferson should stop looking for his own shot, Parker stop dribbling the ball too much, and let's tighten up the D.

spurs50_
11-06-2009, 03:09 PM
I will crap in my pants if I ever see Hairston, mahinimi or haislip in uniform.

xellos88330
11-06-2009, 03:13 PM
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

GO SPURS GO!!! :flag::flag::flag::flag::flag:

Spursfan092120
11-06-2009, 03:15 PM
Crazy how one game takes us from 1st in the division to 3rd.

AFBlue
11-06-2009, 03:16 PM
Odds that Mahinmi, Hairston or Haislip are in street clothes tonight? I'm gonna say 99%.

Coincidentally those are the same odds I'm giving for Fin and Bonner to be in the starting lineup once again.

Hoping for 1%...and a WIN! :flag:

spurtilldeath
11-06-2009, 03:18 PM
Win/Loss is the last thing we should worry at this point. What we need to see is the following

- Effort, Energy, Commitment to D
- Can we have some defensive swagger please......
- Correct and timely decision making and cut turn overs

Once we get the D right, offense will come. Lets hope we see atleast few strides in the right direction.

Winning against Kings and beaten down Hornets doesnt matter. We need to show that we can play against a quality opponent to gain some faith in ourselves. Here is to the Spurs three E's (Energy, Effort & Efficiency)

GO SPURS GO!!!

xellos88330
11-06-2009, 03:21 PM
I do not care if the Spurs fall below .500. I think Pop really needs to shake up his rotation and starting lineup on the road. It seems to do fine at home, but for away games, it seems to just fall apart something fierce.

Spurs Brazil
11-06-2009, 04:06 PM
The critics are tough on the men in black here on SpursTalk. Tonight's game could be a good barometer of how true (or hopefully false) the critics are.

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/4185/rosegardenarenainterior.jpg

Arena Info:
Arena: Rose Garden, Portland, OR
Capacity: 20,630

Game Info:
Start: 5:30 AM Iraq, 3:30 AM GMT, 1:30 AM Brazil, 12:30 AM Argentina, 10:30 PM Eastern, 9:30 PM Central, 7:30 PM Pacific.
Spurs Injuries: None.
Trailblazers Injuries: None.
Television: ESPN, National; KENS HD (Local); KGW HD (Local)

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9707/116200912554pm.jpg

Game Previews: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138622

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Late start here in Brazil, but I'm ready

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PDXSpursFan
11-06-2009, 04:41 PM
Both teams coming from tough losses so it will be an interesting one.

mVp
11-06-2009, 05:18 PM
Must win! :lol

evi11emons
11-06-2009, 05:22 PM
:flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::flag::f lag:

xtremesteven33
11-06-2009, 05:44 PM
I hope not too many Spurs fans are expecting a win tonight.....

DAWixard
11-06-2009, 05:51 PM
I hope they switch Mahinmi in For Bogans. Lets see what happens with him in the middle, especially against Portlands big's.

alchemist
11-06-2009, 05:53 PM
Hoping for a win, otherwise it'll be the usual meltdown threads.....anticipating the usual bench Bonner/Finley trade Jefferson bs :lmao

xtremesteven33
11-06-2009, 05:53 PM
If I see that Bonner is starting im not gonna watch the game. Ima go out have fun and then come watch the game....no need to watch the game get pissed off and ruin my night....

benefactor
11-06-2009, 05:58 PM
I don't let Spurs games ruin my nights anymore. I have a wonderful wife and a beautiful 10 yr old daughter...and they deserve the best from me, which is not possible if I am angry at a basketball game.

xtremesteven33
11-06-2009, 06:00 PM
I don't let Spurs games ruin my nights anymore. I have a wonderful wife and a beautiful 10 yr old daughter...and they deserve the best from me, which is not possible if I am angry at a basketball game.

No wife and no kids for me. :hat

alchemist
11-06-2009, 06:10 PM
I don't let Spurs games ruin my nights anymore. I have a wonderful wife and a beautiful 10 yr old daughter...and they deserve the best from me, which is not possible if I am angry at a basketball game.
I agree, right after Ginobili was out for the final time last season I just gave up putting so much emotions into Spurs games. It was depression if they lost, not anymore. I enjoy the games a lot but I no longer put so much into their games. If we win great, if we lose that's fine go enjoy the rest of the evening. :toast

lefty
11-06-2009, 06:49 PM
Spurs just have to do the exact opposite of everything they did last night

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 07:01 PM
Lets come out with a better effort tonight and secure a win!

completely deck
11-06-2009, 07:14 PM
I don't let Spurs games ruin my nights anymore. I have a wonderful wife and a beautiful 10 yr old daughter...and they deserve the best from me, which is not possible if I am angry at a basketball game.

Tied down to a wife and kid? Pft. Thanks for the pep talk, grandpa. :rolleyes

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 07:22 PM
I don't get as mad as I used to, last year was kind of a wake-up call..

Bill Simmons has a great chapter in his book where he talks about being a Celtics fan in the 80's at the end of their dominance, and I'll tell you it sounds EXACTLY like what we're going through right now, especially the Bird/Duncan comparison..

Not sure if I'll get to watch the game tonight, might have to go to a party with my girl's friends..yes, it sounds really exciting..

xellos88330
11-06-2009, 07:25 PM
I don't let Spurs games ruin my nights anymore. I have a wonderful wife and a beautiful 10 yr old daughter...and they deserve the best from me, which is not possible if I am angry at a basketball game.

My wife couldn't stop me from getting angry, but my daughters smile sure can. I go from angry and about to punch holes in my wall, to disappointed.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 07:45 PM
If I see that Bonner is starting im not gonna watch the game. Ima go out have fun and then come watch the game....no need to watch the game get pissed off and ruin my night....

sigh... i feel you...my mood just go downhill from watching a bad spurs game to an eventual spurs loss :depressed... but i think bonner is gonna start tho...:flipoff

NRHector
11-06-2009, 07:55 PM
If I see that Bonner is starting im not gonna watch the game. Ima go out have fun and then come watch the game....no need to watch the game get pissed off and ruin my night....
well steven go do your thing because they are starting tonight... again

JustinJDW
11-06-2009, 08:18 PM
I agree, right after Ginobili was out for the final time last season I just gave up putting so much emotions into Spurs games. It was depression if they lost, not anymore. I enjoy the games a lot but I no longer put so much into their games. If we win great, if we lose that's fine go enjoy the rest of the evening. :toast+1.

Yeah, I am going to stop putting so much emotions into these games. I guess because I was really into the Spurs from 2002-2005, then I kind of took a break from 2006-2008. (Yeah, I wasn't even watching basketball during the Spurs 07 Championship Run).

I guess because I am really getting into the Spurs again for a full Season, I put too much emotion into it. I am going to stop doing that. I'm going to stop standing up when watching the games. I am just going to sit back with a soda, relax and watch the games. I am not going to curse when we give up a few points, and when we score, I'm not doing anything more than a little smile.

No more ruined nights. I'm just going to relax. :toast

LION20
11-06-2009, 08:40 PM
Lets come out with a better effort tonight and secure a win!


Spurs better be more fired up about this game than me if not we have a problem.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 08:41 PM
When is this shit getting started? Our first road win, coming up.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 08:44 PM
Please, Pop, drop Bonner and start Dice. PLEASE?

It's almost as if Pop doesn't have confidence in this team going back to what worked - defence - so he's sticking with what didn't work last season out of fear. Forget your fear, Pop, and trust in Dice. He won't let you down.

Manu20
11-06-2009, 08:46 PM
I would like to see Mason start instead of Finley. Make it happen Pop.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 08:46 PM
Please, Pop, drop Bonner and start Dice. PLEASE?
Until Dice even gives a shit about games, no way. At least Bonner shows more hustle.

Thompson
11-06-2009, 08:49 PM
Towards the end of last year I stopped investing as much and got used to disappointment. After this off season I was fully invested again, and the Bulls and Jazz games tore me up.

I wish we could bring Splitter over this year (or we could pull off another steal of a trade), I'd really like to see another 7 footer next to Duncan. Failing that, I don't know. I get sick of all the Bonner hate, but even I'm starting to wonder how much our lack of a real center is to blame for our problems.

The thing I hated most about our two losses is how much the other team wanted to play and win vs. our guys trying to keep up. If our vets aren't energetic or hungry I wish Pop would give Hairston and Mahinmi one or two chances; tell them 'your talent level isn't high enough yet, you'll have to compensate with energy if you don't want to sit in street clothes the rest of the year.' Please Pop.

Losing is one thing, but I absolutely hate watching games like the ones we had vs. the Bulls and Jazz where we aren't as hungry to win as the other team, we're just there. My remote control can't take any more of those, I've flung it into the wall too many times already.

I'm trying not to get too depressed because the Spurs are always slow-starting, but it sucks watching the other top-tier teams compete from day one and wondering how the heck we're going to keep up with them.

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 08:50 PM
Until Dice even gives a shit about games, no way. At least Bonner shows more hustle.

How the hell would we know? Dice hasn't had any kind of chance to gel with Tim. If you saw him play in Detroit you wouldn't say he doesn't give a shit. He's obviously confused by the way he's being used.

For mine, start Dice, give him 30mins a game - SHOW SOME FAITH IN HIM - and let him grow into the team.

Bonner's "hustle" amounts to a big pile of nothing.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 08:51 PM
How the hell would we know? Dice hasn't had any kind of chance to gel with Tim. If you saw him play in Detroit you wouldn't say he doesn't give a shit. He's obviously confused by the way he's being used.

For mine, start Dice, give him 30mins a game - SHOW SOME FAITH IN HIM - and let him grow into the team.

Bonner's "hustle" amounts to a big pile of nothing.
Although I agree that the Spurs should give him some minutes, he clearly is not ready for 30 minutes a game. 25 would be ideal. Blair needs some minutes too.

Thompson
11-06-2009, 08:52 PM
I would like to see Mason start instead of Finley. Make it happen Pop.

+1 Mason was tearing it up last year. Now he's hardly playing and shooting even less. Please start Mason. And try playing Hairston, Ian and Haislip just for the hell of it one of these nights.

Riverwalkman
11-06-2009, 08:53 PM
Both Bonner and Finley played 17 mins last night, that's a good thing.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 08:55 PM
Both Bonner and Finley played 17 mins last night, that's a good thing.
Hopefully, Pop keeps that up but the team has to put in some effort. I don't mind if the team loses as long as they put in some effort and hustle. With all the talent in the world, hustle is still important. See Houston Rockets.

bigdog
11-06-2009, 09:28 PM
I don't care if the Spurs lose tonight. It's only the 5th game. I'd just like to see some actual effort and hustle from the team as a whole. I'd like to see contested shots on defense.

Riverwalkman
11-06-2009, 09:30 PM
"The Every Thing" Ryan Anderson got injured.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:31 PM
"The Every Thing" Ryan Anderson got injured.
Crap, breakout year stopped by injury.

Riverwalkman
11-06-2009, 09:38 PM
Crap, breakout year stopped by injury.
:lol If Bonner was injured, Spurs fans would applaud or what?

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:41 PM
:lol If Bonner was injured, Spurs fans would applaud or what?
I wouldn't applaud. We would not be able to trade him. In other news, none of LeBron's points today came from the paint. They are all outside shots. Ok, screw that, fast break dunk made.

Riverwalkman
11-06-2009, 09:53 PM
I want to tell CAVS one thing: when you are leading by 20, never try to draw blocking fouls.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 09:56 PM
I want to tell CAVS one thing: when you are leading by 20, never try to draw blocking fouls.
Jared Jeffries was damn good. Drawing charges and playing good team defense.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:00 PM
suns beating celtics at boston ?? lawl

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:11 PM
Jeff McDonald:
From pre-game .... Pop admits he's catching the Jazz and Blazers both at a bad time, but says: "“That doesn’t take away from the fact that we’re not playing physically enough at both ends of the court. We’re obviously not rebounding very well. For a team that usually leads the league in defensive rebounding, we looked like the worst in the league against Chicago and Utah. So that’s really the emphasis. Shore up the defense. Continue to work on the boards. That’s both an individual and a team thing.”

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:19 PM
ESPN screwed up when commentating on the result of Celtics VS Suns. 2 time MVP Steve Kerr. Funny shit.

Riverwalkman
11-06-2009, 10:20 PM
suns beating celtics at boston ?? lawl
I'm seeing a lot of "lol Cels" threads in the NBA forum.:lol

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:22 PM
chris paul 21 points 18 assists and yet they are down 20 vs. raptors Thats pathetic

TDomination
11-06-2009, 10:23 PM
chris paul 21 points 18 assists and yet they are down 20 vs. raptors Thats pathetic

wow, that sucks

ManuTP9
11-06-2009, 10:24 PM
:flag:

Budkin
11-06-2009, 10:24 PM
I'll actually be surprised if we win tonight. I think we'll gel down the road though.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:25 PM
Did anyone see the Chris Rock interview?

Chris Rock: If I were Cleveland management, I would trade LeBron for Chris Paul + two 1st round draft picks. No sense to lose him for nothing.

symple19
11-06-2009, 10:26 PM
Bout game time!

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:27 PM
Did anyone see the Chris Rock interview?

Chris Rock: If I were Cleveland management, I would trade LeBron for Chris Paul + two 1st round draft picks. No sense to lose him for nothing.

but they have tons of PGs already :rolleyes

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:29 PM
"i am a winner. I have always been a winner." lawl

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:29 PM
"i am a winner. I have always been a winner." lawl
I heard that. That was stupid on James part.

evi11emons
11-06-2009, 10:30 PM
chris paul 21 points 18 assists and yet they are down 20 vs. raptors Thats pathetic
damn

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Bogans to start :wow

Riverwalkman
11-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Now every team has at least one loss. Come on Spurs.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Bogans to start :wow
Shocking. Pop finally got Finley's dick out of his mouth.

evi11emons
11-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Apparently Keith Bogans is starting

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:32 PM
Must be weird for P.J. Carlesimo to go from lead assistant to color commentator.

Thompson
11-06-2009, 10:33 PM
Okay, I've suggested this before, but I'm bored and want to see if anyone thinks there's any chance.

Nets' current assumed goals:
1. Get the first pick in the 2010 draft, or close to it.
2. As part of the pitch to James, demonstrate how they'll be able to surround him with top-level players.
3. Keep payroll as low as possible in the near future to accomplish (2).

If Splitter=Lopez (more or less), offer Splitter + Finley, 1st or 2nd rounder for Lopez.

They'll accomplish (1) without even having to try much. They'll accomplish (3) by bringing in Splitter on a contract that will be cheap for a few years into James's stay, as opposed to Lopez, who they'd have to pay 1 year after acquiring James. This fact will help them with (2), in that they'll be able to surround him with other expensive players. Also, the high draft pick will help with (2). Is this not logical? How unrealistic is it (impossible, extremely unlikely, etc)?

mfanatic
11-06-2009, 10:33 PM
Im going to die when i see Bonner guarding Oden

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:33 PM
Bogans to start :wow

:pop: is :hat

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:33 PM
Bogans starting probably isn't great news for RJ. He lasted all of four games as the perimeter stopper.

TDomination
11-06-2009, 10:34 PM
Bogans to start :wow

wow, i can live with that ONLY because it shows that its DEFENSE FIRST, not Offense.

Now is bonner still starting?

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 10:34 PM
I actually like Bogans starting. Defense should improve and his offense will have the best chance of succeeding if he is playing with RJ, Tim and TP. Like having Bruce out there. Hit some threes and play some d.

Interrohater
11-06-2009, 10:34 PM
Dude, Lopez would be fuckin bomb.

Blackjack
11-06-2009, 10:35 PM
HALLE-FREAKIN'-LUJAH! :elephant

Bogans to start over Finley. :elephant

I don't even care if it fails miserably, Pop has at least acknowledged the need for a stout perimeter defense if Bonner's playing alongside Duncan.

Baby steps, people.

Baby steps..

bigdog
11-06-2009, 10:35 PM
Who's he starting in place of?

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 10:35 PM
Bogans starting probably isn't great news for RJ. He lasted all of four games as the perimeter stopper.

Not going to effect RJ. Not like he will be on the bench all game.

Riverwalkman
11-06-2009, 10:35 PM
Bogans to start :wow
It's Finley's first time being a backup?

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:35 PM
Okay, I've suggested this before, but I'm bored and want to see if anyone thinks there's any chance.

Nets' current assumed goals:
1. Get the first pick in the 2010 draft, or close to it.
2. As part of the pitch to James, demonstrate how they'll be able to surround him with top-level players.
3. Keep payroll as low as possible in the near future to accomplish (2).

If Splitter=Lopez (more or less), offer Splitter + Finley, 1st or 2nd rounder for Lopez.

They'll accomplish (1) without even having to try much. They'll accomplish (3) by bringing in Splitter on a contract that will be cheap for a few years into James's stay, as opposed to Lopez, who they'd have to pay 1 year after acquiring James. This fact will help them with (2), in that they'll be able to surround him with other expensive players. Also, the high draft pick will help with (2). Is this not logical? How unrealistic is it (impossible, extremely unlikely, etc)?
First of all, Lopez is 21 years old. Splitter is like in his late twenties. Lopez is a franchise center, Splitter, not so much. Deal is DOA in my opinion. Our 1st rounder is worthless to them.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:36 PM
I actually love Bogans starting..that just means Pop is open to new things, which is great for all of us..

If he can't fit in that role, one more step to getting Hairston on the roster..

ezau
11-06-2009, 10:36 PM
Don't tell me Bonner is going to start or even guard Oden. I'm gonna puke on my keyboard when that happens

Spurs Brazil
11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
bogans to start :wow

wow

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
three guards start for portland...humm

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Don't tell me Bonner is going to start or even guard Oden. I'm gonna puke on my keyboard when that happens
Better than guarding LaMarcus Aldridge. Matt Bonner cannot play this game.

exstatic
11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Portland is starting 3 guards. Pop needs to put Jefferson in the post IMMEDIATLEY.

Ice009
11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Holy crap. So Pop starts the worst player on the team.

What does Hairston have to do to get a chance???????

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Finley would have made that!







jk

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
Hairston would have dunked that..

fuck, I hate Steve Blake's face..he's so ugly..

mVp
11-06-2009, 10:37 PM
lol timeout.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:38 PM
lol time out...blake was laughing bout it

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Rotations!!!!

Libri
11-06-2009, 10:38 PM
time out already?!

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:38 PM
RJ poor transition defense again.

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Pop in that asssssssss

Death In June
11-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Bogans...really? JV 2.0. Dumb move.

mVp
11-06-2009, 10:38 PM
Damn, here we go again...

Das Texan
11-06-2009, 10:39 PM
god this defense is total shit so far this year.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:39 PM
What is this bullshit? Terrible.

mVp
11-06-2009, 10:39 PM
2 turnovers in a row.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:39 PM
pop take another TO do it!

Spurs Brazil
11-06-2009, 10:39 PM
Terrible start, very sloppy

Sigz
11-06-2009, 10:39 PM
Spurs look like shit.

Brazil
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
bonner with a rebound ????

Libri
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
pathetic!

Snaq O'Meal
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
What does Hairston have to do to get a chance???????

Get older I guess. Otherwise, there's nothing he can do to break into the rotation.

JohnnySixString
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
:lol Who's ready to turn their tv off?

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
RJ just can't move fast enough..

Get Oden in foul trouble, he's effective when he actually plays..not very hard to do..

Thompson
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
First of all, Lopez is 21 years old. Splitter is like in his late twenties. Lopez is a franchise center, Splitter, not so much. Deal is DOA in my opinion. Our 1st rounder is worthless to them.

Splitter is 24, but other than that, thanks. I was just wondering if there was any chance. Probably would have been less unlikely last year, before Lopez demonstrated his potential.

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
Damn pop is livid

spursfan1000
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
uhm just looking at how the game started I can tell Spurs are going to lose

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:40 PM
Bogans should be the one guarding Roy.

Das Texan
11-06-2009, 10:41 PM
damn jefferson already sitting. pop must be really pissed at him.

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:41 PM
uhm just looking at how the game started I can tell Spurs are going to lose

way to cheer for your team

mVp
11-06-2009, 10:41 PM
TD and 1

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:41 PM
RJ gives up middle on penetration. RJ gets benched.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:41 PM
There's the Tim Duncan I love..actually using moves..

bigdog
11-06-2009, 10:41 PM
wow RJ out already

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 10:41 PM
So Pop changes the starting lineup for more D and LEAVES BONNER IN IT. Pulease. WTF?????? Bonner is the problem Pop, wake up to it. :rolleyes

Tim's banker is money this year.

Spurs Brazil
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
TD and one!!!!!!!

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Bogans should be the one guarding Roy.
he is

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Why does Pop hate Dice so much?

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
How the hell is that a foul?!..

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
wow didnt know oden had that shot lol

Snaq O'Meal
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
Damn pop is livid

Livid about what? His own rotations?

It's a long game. I hope the second unit can somehow pick things up.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
wait?? whats wrong with the score?

Das Texan
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
btw is monaco the lead announcer now this year?


bill land move on to better things or what?

jag
11-06-2009, 10:42 PM
The Spurs have 4 points...not sure what the score is showing.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:43 PM
he is
Jefferson was the one who let Roy cut inside.

007nites
11-06-2009, 10:43 PM
Bonner has nothing over Oden

Ice009
11-06-2009, 10:43 PM
RJ gives up middle on penetration. RJ gets benched.

Is it possible to trade RJ for Stephen Jackson and someone else like Tuariff from Goldenstate?????

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 10:43 PM
Pop with the quick leash on RJ. Can't learn if he is not in the game.

Libri
11-06-2009, 10:43 PM
I like that Tim is taking it to Oden.

Spurs Brazil
11-06-2009, 10:44 PM
2nd on Oden

Nice job TD

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:44 PM
Good call..Oden had his hands on the angle..

Snaq O'Meal
11-06-2009, 10:44 PM
So Pop changes the starting lineup for more D and LEAVES BONNER IN IT. Pulease. WTF?????? Bonner is the problem Pop, wake up to it. :rolleyes

I don't quite get it too. Pop stressed defence and rebounding, yet he's not putting in the right personnel for the job.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:44 PM
Duncan is the only one doing anything. Pop better call some plays.

Das Texan
11-06-2009, 10:44 PM
and why the fuck are the blazers uniforms saying rip city on them?

007nites
11-06-2009, 10:44 PM
I have a feeling that Oden is going to get fouled out in the first half because of Duncan.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:45 PM
I think they're going to review Roy's 3 earlier and give him a 2..

there's Manu's great step-back 3s that bail the other team's defense out...

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:45 PM
manu :flipoff stupid shot

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-06-2009, 10:45 PM
Jesus Roy is on fire

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Parker let Blake shoot that?

duncan228
11-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Duncan looks good.

007nites
11-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Timmy with the J

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Someone aside from TD needs to get it going.

Das Texan
11-06-2009, 10:46 PM
bonner doesnt play horrible defense, he is just limited physically.

bigdog
11-06-2009, 10:46 PM
Why on Earth is Bonner guarding Aldridge?

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Have to grab those damn boards.

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
nice effort now

ceperez
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Who are they kidding?

Bogans can't guard Roy.... he's got at least a 2" height disadvantage and isn't remotely as quick.

Sigz
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
That's 2 offensive rebounds against us already. No fucking SIZE up front.

Duncan is alone, and Bonner is shit.

Chomag
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Rebound. PLEASE?

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Jesus Roy is on fire

That is the Spurs defense.

jag
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Replacing Bruce is not as easy as I thought it would be.

Watching this makes you appreciate his intangibles.

iilluzioN
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
should we try hill on ROY?

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
Why the fuck is Pop persisting with Bonner? It's as if he doesn't trust his new guys... get Dice in there! Anyone who watched him play in Detroit knows what he can do, but he needs some time on the friggin court.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:47 PM
I like Bogan's prevent defense right now, he isn't allowing Roy to catch the ball on the isolation..they missed on 1 possession, and they scored on the other with Blake beating Parker..we'll take that shot though..

His only basket against Bogans has been off a screen, tough to defend..

Hope he can keep playing him tough..

bigdog
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Bogans was guarding Roy decently off the ball....but when Roy got the ball....

Spurs Brazil
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
TD looks good

Manu needs to stop with those 3.

We need to do a better job on the boards

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Duncan should be the one guarding Aldridge. Leave Pryzbilla and his offensively challenged abilities to Bonner.

raspsa
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Blazers doing a good job guarding the perimeter.

Ginobili2Duncan
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Why is Joey Crawford officiating this game?

Thompson
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Who are they kidding?

Bogans can't guard Roy.... he's got at least a 2" height disadvantage and isn't remotely as quick.

Hairston Hairston Hairston Hairston Hairston...

Mr.Bottomtooth
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Jefferson needs to quit that lazy shit on D. You would have thought he realized by now that won't cut it here under Pop.

007nites
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
duncan with already 8.

murpjf88
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
still can't rebound and their going after bonner on every possession.

ceperez
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Replacing Bruce is not as easy as I thought it would be.

I would rather have Bowen even at his advance age rather than Bogans.

Ice009
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Who are they kidding?

Bogans can't guard Roy.... he's got at least a 2" height disadvantage and isn't remotely as quick.

Bogans is doing alright mate. I will take a defensive player on the court any day of the week. Who do you want out there? Finley?

Yogurt210
11-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Bonner GTFO
BOGANS especially GTFO...


stupid fucking POP.
time to take some of his money away.
Peter Holt do something

Yogurt210
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Bogans is doing alright mate. I will take a defensive player on the court any day of the week. Who do you want out there? Finley?


Hariston

Duncan2177
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Put Dice in the game Pop.

Dex
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Blazers are still on pace to score 120.

Need to clamp down NOW.

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Duncan looks good.

Yup awesome start for him.

spursfan1000
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
I'm liking POP trying new ideas hopefully it will work

ulosturedge
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Hairston. Oh wait he's in street clothes...

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Bogans is doing alright mate. I will take a defensive player on the court any day of the week. Who do you want out there? Finley?

i want bell :toast:lmao

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 10:49 PM
Pop's attitude to Dice is astounding and frustrating. GET HIM IN THE GAME.

Oh, and Manu, don't bring that bullshit. GET TO THE RACK. You can shoot pullups after you've hit 3 layups. :ihit

Dex
11-06-2009, 10:50 PM
Fuck you, Crawford.

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
Haha I keep thinking Parker is Udoka :p:

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
2 on TD :(

mVp
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
More turnovers. Great.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
Ugh, I hate the majority of Portland's players, especially Blake and Aldridge..

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
If Bonner is going to shoot that, why is he in the game?

Snaq O'Meal
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
stupid fucking POP.
time to take some of his money away.
Peter Holt do something

Pop will be okay once they hire an assistant coach of P.J. Carlesimo's caliber.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
omg...the white gorilla will eat blair alive on the off. board

007nites
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
shit timmy with 2 fouls

jag
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
Bogans is impressing me on D

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:51 PM
Bogans is looking good..

Too bad they're forcing us to take Js..

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
So he brings Dice in, but not to play with Tim???

And now our tallest guy is 6'9"!

WTF Pop.

Rob123
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
I really like Bogans Defense.

siraulo23
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
bogans doing a good job staying on roy

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
Great defense here. Keep up the effort.

SanAntonioSpurs23
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
Blair is a beast....

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
Blair making his presence felt

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
Manu looking horrible again, easy points for Portland..

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
Got damn it Manu.

timtonymanu
11-06-2009, 10:52 PM
fuckin Manu lost the ball.

Death In June
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
Damn, Ginobli's been turnover happy the last few games. Moreso than usual.

Das Texan
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
Man sounds like PJ has been smoking too many Marlboro's lately.

SpursRulez4eVeR
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
manu wakes UPPPPPPP

bigdog
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
Manu needs to quit with the fancy shit.

Chomag
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
LOL looked like timmy was life WTF to Pop. I don't think he wanted to come out.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
So he brings Dice in, but not to play with Tim???

And now our tallest guy is 6'9"!

WTF Pop.
Tim is in foul trouble.

Spurs Brazil
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
Manu is playing like shit

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
What the fuck just happened?

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
:tu @ Bogans so far.

007nites
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
Blairs giving up 6 inches to Joel

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
WTF Manu? Where's your head? It's certainly not on playing basketball.

bigdog
11-06-2009, 10:53 PM
I liked Bogans' defense

DPG21920
11-06-2009, 10:54 PM
Now that Bogans has settled down, looking good overall. Spurs offense looks like shit and that is mostly on TP imo.

He has not looked the same so far this year. Don't know if he is tired, indecisive or frustrated, but his drop in play is what the Spurs could not have planned for and is something they cannot afford.

jag
11-06-2009, 10:54 PM
Manu needs to quit with the fancy shit.

Like a crossover?

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:54 PM
RJ seems more focused so far.

Spurs Brazil
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
RJ needs to stop shooting 3s and attack

mVp
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
WOW Stop losing the ball. WTF?

Chomag
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Fuck this 1 on 1 crap! Lets play soem Spurs team ball!

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
More Bogans and less Finley, more screens for our offense will be good.

Das Texan
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Maybe Bogans will learn to shoot at some point this season and really be useful to us.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Andre Miller always owns us..Tony said he's the most difficult player he goes up against IIRC..

Ice009
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Manu and TP sloppy ball handling. Fucking turnovers.

JohnnySixString
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
wow...just wow

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Spurs fumbling out on the perimeter. Blair can't tip to himself in a crowd.

EricB
11-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Bogans deserves more starts if he can keep defending like that.

Dex
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
Only Spurs fans could appreciate Bogans 0 points and 0 rebounds. :tu

bigdog
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
Like a crossover?

No, like a behind-the-back crossover.

murpjf88
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
sloppiest bunch of fucks on the planet.

Sigz
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
We suck.

superjames1992
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
Bonner and Bogan's defenses have been impressive thus far. TP and Manu have been sloppy. Timmy has been beastly. And Finley has been nowhere to be seen.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
McDyess lost Pryzbilla there. It was almost a 3 point play.

jgome21
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
Bogans is playin good D so far, and Bonner is doin a good job on Aldridge despite the size advantage, we jus need to stop turning the ball over and set up the offense..

angelbelow
11-06-2009, 10:56 PM
:tu @ Bogans so far.

Yea I like the switch up.

Spurologist
11-06-2009, 10:57 PM
Bogans deserves more starts if he can keep defending like that.

:tu

EricB
11-06-2009, 10:57 PM
Sadly McDyess has looked god awfull since after game 1 against New Orleans.

I'm hoping its cause he's a slow starter....

spursfan1000
11-06-2009, 10:57 PM
Too bad Duncan is in foul trouble...

timvp
11-06-2009, 10:57 PM
Who will enter first ... Finley or RMJ?

45 bank shot
11-06-2009, 10:57 PM
stop turing the ball over dammit

RuffnReadyOzStyle
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Tim is in foul trouble.

Sure. My point is that our eventual starting lineup has to be Tim-Dice, but they never seem to play together. Also, look who Dice played next to in Detroit - other quality bigs.

Dice was not brought here to ride pine and play spots, he should be getting 30mpg+ NOW.


:tu @ Bogans so far.

Agreed. He looks like a decent fit. I'd still like to see what Mason could do starting... what about trying a Tim-Dice-Bogans-Mason (or Manu)-Parker starting lineup, Jefferson as 6th man.

EricB
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Only Spurs fans could appreciate Bogans 0 points and 0 rebounds. :tu

Only real Spurs fans appreciate damn good perimeter defense

Ice009
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Bonner GTFO
BOGANS especially GTFO...


stupid fucking POP.
time to take some of his money away.
Peter Holt do something

I told you Bogans in playing good. much rather have a defensive player in there.

Libri
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Bogans deserves more starts if he can keep defending like that.

Yup, he's finally showing something.

Das Texan
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I would rather start Ratliff over McDyess right now, or at least until the calender turns to 2010, if you must replace Bonner.

bigdog
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
I actually wouldn't mind seeing a Blair post up and he can kick out to Dyess for his midrange J's

siraulo23
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
take care of the basketball...

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Pathetic. We need Pop to call some plays. Parker is not your typical PG.

Thompson
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Yea I like the switch up.

We need to win this game so it sticks.

redskinfan
11-06-2009, 10:58 PM
PJ sounds like he is giving a BJ...

EricB
11-06-2009, 10:59 PM
IMO Mason hasn't looked that horrible off the bench.

If Bogans can get his shot right and bring that defensive effort leave him the starting 2.

Chieflion
11-06-2009, 10:59 PM
The drive and kick is not working, damn it. Stop trying.

EricB
11-06-2009, 10:59 PM
IMO Mason hasn't looked that horrible off the bench.

If Bogans can get his shot right and bring that defensive effort leave him the starting 2.

HarlemHeat37
11-06-2009, 10:59 PM
Tony's killing us..

45 bank shot
11-06-2009, 10:59 PM
can we drive it to the basket?