General Free Agent Signings/Trades

[TD 21]

Jared Jeffries (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/players/playerpage/307839) has informed the Knicks (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/NY) that he intends to re-sign with them, according to Ken Berger of CBSSports.com (http://twitter.com/#%21/KBergCBS/status/144123156779630592). The deal is expected to be for one year.

According to the Los Angeles Times (http://www.latimes.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/la-sp-lakers-20111206,0,3081429.story), Kapono and the Lakers (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/page/LAL) are close to a one or two-year deal for the league minimum. ESPN New York also reports (http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/7319917/source-los-angeles-lakers-host-philadelphia-76ers-free-agent-shooter-jason-kapono) that the Knicks have some interest in Kapono.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
New Orleans strongly engaged with Clippers, Warriors and Celtics in trade talks for Chris Paul on Tuesday, league sources tell Y!

[Mel_13]

:tu

Good idea to have one thread for this.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Paul has indicated Clippers and Warriors could raise chances of keeping him long-term if they sign center Tyson Chandler too, sources say.

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

http://blog.mysanantonio.com/spursnation/2011/12/02/amnesty-for-jefferson-still-on-table/

"The Spurs are believed to have been in contact with representatives of at least four free-agent small forwards: Dallas’ Caron Butler, former New Jersey Net Bostjan Nachbar and Washington Wizards Josh Howard and Maurice Evans."

Nachbar?.. What?

[objective]

Nachbar is 6-9 and had the same terrible rebounding numbers Bonner usually has when he was last in the NBA, and can shoot the three.

Maybe he's a floor-spreading PF now that he's older and probably slowed down?

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Wow.

[The_Worlds_finest]

perhaps the thread is for confirmed legit signings and trades...just a thought.

[Texas_Ranger]

Nachbar will probably sign with the Knicks.

[Mel_13]

Tracy McGrady has agreed to a 1-year, veteran-minimum deal with the Atlanta Hawks, a source close to the situation told ESPN's Stephen A. Smith.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7327741/tracy-mcgrady-agrees-atlanta-hawks-one-year-veteran-minimum-deal-source-says

[ace3g]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Kings source confirms Sacramento has offered four-year deal at midlevel exception ($20 million) to Chuck Hayes and optimistic he'll accept

[loveforthegame]

Love Chuck Hayes. Will be good to have him near home again.

[timvp]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Kings source confirms Sacramento has offered four-year deal at midlevel exception ($20 million) to Chuck Hayes and optimistic he'll accept

That contract isn't horrible. A little overpaid but not too bad. Chuck Hayes plays some of the best post D in the league despite being shorter than Blair.

But the Kings? I don't really understand that fit because Hayes is much more valuable to a contender, though it does make some sense to sign a guy who doesn't want to be a part of the offense since Sac will have enough trouble finding enough shots for everyone as it is.

[TD 21]

AlexKennedyNBA (http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) Alex Kennedy

Sebastian Telfair is leaning toward signing with the Phoenix Suns, according to a league source.

AlexKennedyNBA (http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) Alex Kennedy

Earl Watson is leaning toward signing with the Atlanta Hawks, according to a league source.

AlexKennedyNBA (http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) Alex Kennedy

Roger Mason Jr. is leaning toward signing with the Washington Wizards, according to league source.

[MaNu4Tres]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Kings source confirms Sacramento has offered four-year deal at midlevel exception ($20 million) to Chuck Hayes and optimistic he'll accept

Jason Thompson is more than available. Spurs could probably get him for pretty damn cheap.

[ElNono]

That contract isn't horrible. A little overpaid but not too bad. Chuck Hayes plays some of the best post D in the league despite being shorter than Blair.

But the Kings? I don't really understand that fit because Hayes is much more valuable to a contender, though it does make some sense to sign a guy who doesn't want to be a part of the offense since Sac will have enough trouble finding enough shots for everyone as it is.

Sacramento probably just trying to make the min salary cap. I think it's a bit much for Hayes.

[spursince#99]

Alright I can't take it anymore. Lol I'll be off of this until Friday & hopefully I'll be happy to what I'm returning to. GO SPURS GO!! Make big deals

[Mel_13]

Just got off the phone w @tj_ford . Confirmed to me that he will join the Spurs.

http://twitter.com/DonHarris4

[slick'81]

welcome to sa tj

[Mel_13]

Battier to Miami:

Let's Go #Heat!!!!!

http://twitter.com/ShaneBattier

[Mel_13]

The Knicks are on the verge of landing Grant Hill, according to two NBA sources.

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/knicks_on_verge_of_acquiring_grant_Z4zAsnEzot25UPR WQR85SJ

[MaNu4Tres]

sam_amick Sam Amick
Source close to Grant Hill says he has not made a decision and is not close to any agreement. Being reported he's leaning toward NY.

[ace3g]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Eddy Curry will arrive in Miami today. He's expected to sign with the Heat tomorrow, sources close to the situation confirm.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Lol

[benefactor]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
Eddy Curry will arrive in Miami today. He's expected to sign with the Heat tomorrow, sources close to the situation confirm.
:lol

Waste of a roster spot tbh.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Free agent forward Jason Collins will return to the Atlanta Hawks with a one-year deal, a league source tells Yahoo! Sports.

sam_amick Sam Amick
Source close to situation confirms @MSteinmetzCSN report that Tyson Chandler has offer of four years, approx $60 million. New York emerging.

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
As @KBergCBS reports, Knicks preparing huge offer for Tyson Chandler. Source tells Y! there's scenario where Billups get amnesty, or traded.


WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Also, @MsteinmetzCSN reporting Knicks challenging Warriors for Chandler.

sam_amick Sam Amick
Source says Golden State is expected to make a hard run at the Clippers' DeAndre Jordan if and when New York wins out on Chandler.

[ajballer4]

It boggles my mind how New York has enough money for Chandler.

[ace3g]

Looks like Lakers/Hornets/Rockets are working on a trade where Paul goes to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets

[Mugen]

Looks like Lakers/Hornets/Rockets are working on a trade where Paul goes to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets

im assuming Scola to the Hornets??

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Shannon Brown is nearing a one year, $3.5M deal with the Phoenix Suns, league source tells Y! Sports.

[spursince#99]

any news on Caron?

[yavozerb]

I really hope the Lakers stay away from Howard and only can get Paul..Have no problem with this and just hope the Lakers become more guard oriented for the Spurs sake.

[pad300]

That contract isn't horrible. A little overpaid but not too bad. Chuck Hayes plays some of the best post D in the league despite being shorter than Blair.



He's the guy that I keep saying Blair should be modelling his game off of. Spend his off-season learning the Chuck Hayes school of B-ball... It would be such a big addition for him.

[MaNu4Tres]

He's the guy that I keep saying Blair should be modelling his game off of. Spend his off-season learning the Chuck Hayes school of B-ball... It would be such a big addition for him.

Tough to model your game after someone when your the polar opposite mentally. There's a major difference between the two players.

One uses his body in a disciplined manner on the defensive end, the other is undisciplined over-committing while lunging for steals way too often.

One is disciplined in his eating habits, the other is disciplined in the Whataburger drive through.

[edgar]

any chance we get scola from the hornets if the trade goes down?

[DPG21920]

If NO takes this stupid HOU deal they are dummies IMO.

[DesignatedT]

Houston shouldn't touch Pau. Who would they be giving up in that deal?

Also, whoever gives Tyson Chandler 14 mil/yr or whatever he's asking is retarded.

[ace3g]

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Caron Butler agrees to terms with Clippers. Three years, 24M.

[Mugen]

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Caron Butler agrees to terms with Clippers. Three years, 24M.

lol thought so. money always wins.

[MaNu4Tres]

Houston shouldn't touch Pau. Who would they be giving up in that deal?


Probably the Morris kid or Jordan Hill, Patterson, Thabeet's expiring, their 1st rounder and NY's pick (2012 first-round pick (top 5 protected in 2012, 2013, 2014, and 2015; from the T-Mac trade).

[DesignatedT]

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Caron Butler agrees to terms with Clippers. Three years, 24M.

I see.

Grant Hill or bust.

[MaNu4Tres]

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Caron Butler agrees to terms with Clippers. Three years, 24M.

Bad news for the Spurs as they not only lose out on Caron, but lose out on a bidder for R.J.

[MaNu4Tres]

I really don't want Josh Howard.

Grant Hill or Dunleavy please.

[tdunk21]

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
Source: Caron Butler agrees to terms with Clippers. Three years, 24M.

thats bad....i hope we have a backup plan wth prince, butler, battier agreeing to to sign with another teams.

[Mugen]

my gut tells me the Spurs are gonna announce the signing of Josh Howard sometime tomorrow.

[Sense]

Now what? -_-

[DesignatedT]

I agree Grant Hill or Dunleavy.

[stephen jackson]

pretty sure jho is comin now. even tho im not overly excited about it, its something.

[ace3g]

sam_amick Sam Amick
Former Portland big man Jeff Pendergraph is expected to sign a two-year, guaranteed deal in Indiana, according to a source.

[ace3g]

Dominoes keep falling: WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Free agent forward Mike Dunleavy will sign a two year, $7.5 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Y! Sports.

[DesignatedT]

Howard is high risk/high reward. Dude was money out of college and the ultimate Spur killer but he hasn't had a good season in like 3 years and can't stay healthy. I wouldn't mind the signing but Grant Hill would definitely be better.

Howard for 3 years 9 mil though would be worth it. Not the full MLE though.

[tdunk21]

@WojYahooNBA
Adrian Wojnarowski
Free agent forward Mike Dunleavy will sign a two year, $7.5 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Y! Sports.

[DesignatedT]

2 years 7.5 ? I would have done that.

[stephen jackson]

thank god someone took dunleavy. fuck that dude, would hate him in a spurs uniform

[dbestpro]

Maybe a long shot will have the Spurs signing Wilson Chandler now that an NBA team can add 500k to help get him out of his China contract.

[DesignatedT]

Again we are out there with our Dicks blowing in the wind! Deal the big 3 and start rebiuld asap.


:lol

[Mugen]

Dominoes keep falling: WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Free agent forward Mike Dunleavy will sign a two year, $7.5 million deal with the Milwaukee Bucks, league source tells Y! Sports.

i hope this frees up Mbah a Moute

[tdunk21]

i hope this frees up Mbah a Moute

thats what i was wondering too....

[mexicanjunior]

Howard for 3 years 9 mil though would be worth it. Not the full MLE though.

That POS pothead is not worth the vet minimum...he is a locker room cancer, no b-ball IQ and does not give a shit about his teammates or putting in any effort to make himself better. We would be better off handing the reigns to Leonard with Anderson backing him up.

[Manu20]

I would not mind Grant Hill...I know his 39 but he is still a really smart player and still pretty darn good.

[DesignatedT]

That POS pothead is not worth the vet minimum...he is a locker room cancer, no b-ball IQ and does not give a shit about his teammates or putting in any effort to make himself better. We would be better off handing the reigns to Leonard with Anderson backing him up.

So how do you really feel about it?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

God, if Howard ends up being the main move of the offseason...

[tdunk21]

@SpearsNBAYahoo
Marc J. Spears
Wiz free agent SF Josh Howard is attracted to signing with team DEN FA C Nene signs with, source tells Y! SA, Chi, Den, NO, Utah, NJ in mix

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Wiz free agent SF Josh Howard is attracted to signing with team DEN FA C Nene signs with, source tells Y! SA, Chi, Den, NO, Utah, NJ in mix

Doesn't this technically mean Spurs have asked about Nene?

[tdunk21]

Doesn't this technically mean Spurs have asked about Nene?

true but can we pry away nene for full MLE and offer howard vet min...

[DesignatedT]

We need to just get Grant Hill.

[DPG21920]

I hope the Spurs just sit tight and offer only a small contract (1year) to someone. Then have the cap space next year to do something.

No point in spending if they can't land a big man because they are not leap frogging any contenders in their current position IMO.

[Anonymous Cowherd]

true but can we pry away nene for full MLE and offer howard vet min...

erm nope.

[DPG21920]

Also I wonder if they end up striking out on whomever is/was their true target that it impacts their decision to rebuild vs contend?

[Mugen]

lol @ the thought of J-Ho in Utah. That jersey will fly off the shelves...

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Hornets cooling on idea of Boston needing involvement of 3rd team, considering package of Rajon Rondo, Jeff Green and picks for Chris Paul.

Please let this happen.

[Sense]

true but can we pry away nene for full MLE and offer howard vet min...

:lol

[DPG21920]

I hope the Spurs just sit tight and offer only a small contract (1year) to someone. Then have the cap space next year to do something.

No point in spending if they can't land a big man because they are not leap frogging any contenders in their current position IMO.

Unless they can land AK47.

[elec99]

Isn't it amazing the number of times an FA will say 'I want to me on a contender" and then choose the money route instead? Caron to the clips means more money but he'll be on vacation for most if not all the Playoffs.

[Ditty]

Caron pulled a Maggette.

[dbestpro]

I hate to say it, but maybe, "gulp" the next starting SF may be Vince Carter.

[DesignatedT]

I hate to say it, but maybe, "gulp" the next starting SF may be Vince Carter.

Oh god no.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

I hate to say it, but maybe, "gulp" the next starting SF may be Vince Carter.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lbv04bOb7S1qb9qwwo1_400.jpg

[Manu20]

I hate to say it, but maybe, "gulp" the next starting SF may be Vince Carter.

Last time that the Suns played in SA he look way out of shape....cant imagine how he looks now with the extended vacations......

[benefactor]

Cavs expected to amnesty Baron Davis.

[spursince#99]

we always get spurned and i'd rather see Leonard AND Anderson start before i'd want to see Vince Carter come here. Like i swear to GOD i'd rather have Jefferson. The amnesty isn't final is it? I hope they have a change of heart now. *PRAYING*

[MannyIsGod]

God, if Howard ends up being the main move of the offseason...

Hint: The main move was already announced.

[MannyIsGod]

I hope the Spurs just sit tight and offer only a small contract (1year) to someone. Then have the cap space next year to do something.

No point in spending if they can't land a big man because they are not leap frogging any contenders in their current position IMO.

Spurs with capspace = LOL

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Hint: The main move was already announced.

Addition, then.

[Duncan2177]

we always get spurned and i'd rather see Leonard AND Anderson start before i'd want to see Vince Carter come here. Like i swear to GOD i'd rather have Jefferson. The amnesty isn't final is it? I hope they have a change of heart now. *PRAYING*

:lol

[MannyIsGod]

Isn't it amazing the number of times an FA will say 'I want to me on a contender" and then choose the money route instead? Caron to the clips means more money but he'll be on vacation for most if not all the Playoffs.

Money is the number one priority for most players. Honestly, its not like the Spurs are THAT much more of a contender than the Clips. They have a great young big man to build off of. We're old and just lost to the 8th seed in the first round.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

stevekylerNBA Steve Kyler
RT @christomasson: Source says Hornets thought they were very close to a deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers but then Lakers backed off. ...

[elemento]

Cavs expected to amnesty Baron Davis.

Only teams under the cap can make a bid right ?

Can the Lakers have him for cheap ?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Only teams under the cap can make a bid right ?

Can the Lakers have him for cheap ?

Lakers are currently under?

[WeNeedLength]

I heard Yahoo Sports say Prince is working on resigning with the Pistons for a four year deal. Another possible SF target off the Spurs' list..

[MannyIsGod]

I heard Yahoo Sports say Prince is working on resigning with the Pistons for a four year deal. Another possible SF target off the Spurs' list..

Do you have any updates on Caron Butler or Mike Dunleavy?

[elemento]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Tayshaun Prince will sign a four year, $27 million dollar deal to stay with Detroit, league sources tell Y! Sports.

lol

So much talk about Prince, Butler, Howard and in the end we're gonna see: Spurs sign Boštjan Nachbar :lol

[elemento]

Lakers are currently under?

Nah, not even close. I am guessing that if BD wants to go to LA, he would have to give up all his money and sign with the Lakers as a FA, correct?

[WeNeedLength]

Do you have any updates on Caron Butler or Mike Dunleavy?

Is this what you meant to say?

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/4/1zb9gqp.jpg

[elec99]

Money is the number one priority for most players. Honestly, its not like the Spurs are THAT much more of a contender than the Clips. They have a great young big man to build off of. We're old and just lost to the 8th seed in the first round.

I disagree. Winning starts from the top down, that means from the owner and Sterling has never made that his priority. He's traded away so many gems he's received from ending at the bottom. At least holt and company have winning on their agenda.

You know what was funny, sterling said something like 'Griffin will be a clip forever', and I immediately thought, Not if Griffin has something to say about that.

[spursince#99]

we're fucked. 1st round playoff exit. Tank the season and I never say that.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Nah, not even close. I am guessing that if BD wants to go to LA, he would have to give up all his money and sign with the Lakers as a FA, correct?

Well he has no say in who bids for him, so he'll have to make a very convincing pitch that he'll destroy whatever team bids for him and should let him go. But I guess, technically your scenario can happen.

[MannyIsGod]

I disagree. Winning starts from the top down, that means from the owner and Sterling has never made that his priority. He's traded away so many gems he's received from ending at the bottom. At least holt and company have winning on their agenda.

You know what was funny, sterling said something like 'Griffin will be a clip forever', and I immediately thought, Not if Griffin has something to say about that.

Doesn't change the fact that the clips have a decent shot at a better record than the Spurs at this moment. The Spurs really aren't a championship contendor right now and they certainly won't be any closer in the coming years barring another Tim Duncan/David Robinson.

Time to face the facts.

[stxspurs]

we always get spurned and i'd rather see Leonard AND Anderson start before i'd want to see Vince Carter come here. Like i swear to GOD i'd rather have Jefferson. The amnesty isn't final is it? I hope they have a change of heart now. *PRAYING*

U think RJ sucked now wait till he has to play knowing they don't want him and just kept him because there was no other option.....just stick to your guns and let him go. I rather have the youngsters play

[spursince#99]

U think RJ sucked now wait till he has to play knowing they don't want him and just kept him because there was no other option.....just stick to your guns and let him go. I rather have the youngsters play


Did Pop or R.C tell Jefferson? or was that just speculation? Hmmm

[stxspurs]

I'm sure he knows something...even if its just rumors

[spursince#99]

If he's caught up in rumors then he'll never amount to anything in this game.

[RodNIc91]

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ESPN.com
Archive (http://search.espn.go.com/ja-adande/)

Free agent Grant Hill is expected to choose a team this afternoon, according to a league source. The source said Hill will decide between the team where he has played the past four years, the Phoenix Suns, and a newly emerged contender: the San Antonio Spurs.

One thing the source ruled out: “It won’t be New York.”

The Knicks had been a rumored destination for Hill, but now they are now attempting to shed salary, not add it, so they can pursue Tyson Chandler.

The Spurs are apparently willing to give the 39-year-old Hill a second year on his contract, which the Suns would not. If Hill, a small forward, were to sign with the Spurs it would presumably coincide with San Antonio using the amnesty provision to waive small forward Richard Jefferson, who has three years and $30 million remaining on his contract.

[elec99]

Doesn't change the fact that the clips have a decent shot at a better record than the Spurs at this moment. The Spurs really aren't a championship contendor right now and they certainly won't be any closer in the coming years barring another Tim Duncan/David Robinson.

Time to face the facts.

Contender? maybe not. Better record? Not sure I would go that far. Spurs wont have the best record again, but I dont think they will fall to number 8. Clips on the other hand didnt even make POs, they finished 13th out of 15 teams. It would be an accomplishment to make the POs for them.

I understand your point about the future, looks bleak. But to go from #1 to #8, or #13 up to #8 the following year are both drastic swings.

[MannyIsGod]

So then if we're not a contender why would someone come here if they want to win a ring?

[elec99]

I think you may have just answered your own question. Aside from Ford, they're not. All the FAs (aside from ford) are going for other teams, I'm guessing they think their chances are greater elsewhere (or greater money). Personally I think caron did it for the money, clips may have something in the future as some may think, but not next year.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

KBergCBS Ken Berger
On Knicks-Chandler front, sources say it looks like Billups will be amnestied and Turiaf will be sent out in separate deal. No sign/trade.

[DesignatedT]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
The Hornets are near a deal to send Chris Paul to the Lakers for Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom, league source tells Y! Sports.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Fffuuuu

[Scrub]

Relax guys. Deep down You know what will happen. Pop will sign someone like Bostian Nachbar and tell you to stfu and be happy. :toast

[DesignatedT]

I have no problem with the Lakers getting rid of their bigs.

[Duncan2177]

relax guys. Deep down you know what will happen. Pop will sign someone like bostian nachbar and tell you to stfu and be happy. :toast

booo

[Creation88]

Spurs match up much better with Paul Lakers than Odom-Bynum Lakers

[TD 21]

Odom makes no sense for the Hornets. The Spurs should offer Blair, McDyess, Butler and a 1st. They probably wouldn't take it, but maybe Demps will feel indebted to Buford and Pop and help them out. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

[Sense]

:lol @ LA getting rid of their bigs and sticking to their soft one..

How does this make sense to them?

[Steve-O-Matic]

Odom makes no sense for the Hornets. The Spurs should offer Blair, McDyess, Butler and a 1st. They probably wouldn't take it, but maybe Demps will feel indebted to Buford and Pop and help them out. I doubt it, but stranger things have happened.

Wrong. Stranger things have NOT happened than getting Chris Paul for DeJuan Blair, Antonio McDyess, Da'Sean Butler and a low 1st round pick. That suggestion is patently absurd.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Correction: The proposed deal to the Lakers is Chris Paul for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, source says.

now Lakers still have Bynum to give to Magic for D Howard, great...

[TD 21]

Wrong. Stranger things have NOT happened than getting Chris Paul for DeJuan Blair, Antonio McDyess, Da'Sean Butler and a low 1st round pick. That suggestion is patently absurd.

Learn to read. Who said anything about Paul? I said Odom. They'd walk away with Bynum, Blair, Butler, a 1st in a deep draft and more cap space. It would also free them up to trade Okafor, who'd bring more assets. I also said they probably wouldn't do it, but it's worth a shot.

[ajballer4]

Wrong. Stranger things have NOT happened than getting Chris Paul for DeJuan Blair, Antonio McDyess, Da'Sean Butler and a low 1st round pick. That suggestion is patently absurd.

It'd be for Odom

[DesignatedT]

Yeah that makes more sense for LA. That would suck.

[Sense]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Correction: The proposed deal to the Lakers is Chris Paul for Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom, source says.

now Lakers still have Bynum to give to Magic for D Howard, great...



Am I crazy to think that this wouldn't be such a bad thing? I still think a team of Bryant, Paul, and Howard can still be very beatable.. who else do they have after that?

This Lakers team has NO bench, and now they're going to be lacking a very complete starting five.. for 3 stars?

I'm not buying on that team winning much.

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Thank God it's Gasol and not Bynum. Lakers frontcourt is nothing now. Orlando would be the biggest fucking idiots in the world to trade Howard for Bynum.

[ajballer4]

If they end up not getting Howard, who are their starting bigs the first five games?

[DesignatedT]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
It sounds like the Lakers had agreed to send Bynum and Odom to New Orleans but reneged. Then, Hornets agreed to take Gasol and Odom instead.
1 minute ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[DesignatedT]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Hornets working to finalize details on 3-team deal to send Chris Paul to Lakers, Gasol to Rockets and Odom, KMart, Scola to NO, sources say.

[ajballer4]

Rockets still part of the deal. I think New Orleans is getting a steal here

[DesignatedT]

Bad deal Houston. Martin, Scola and Dragic for Gasol? Wow rockets.

[TimmehC]

If Dell Demps could go ahead and flip Scola over to us, that'd be great.

[DesignatedT]

Lakers get: CP3
Rockets get: Pau
New Orleans gets: Odom, Scola, Martin.

I do this in a heartbeat if im N.O

HOU is fucking retarded.

[Texas_Ranger]

Lakers get: CP3
Rockets get: Pau
New Orleans gets: Odom, Scola, Martin.

I do this in a heartbeat if im N.O.

HOU is fucking retarded.

NO also gets Dragic

[kjhip1]

LA is retarded...I'd never give up Gasol and Odom....even for Paul..should have tried luring Howard instead..

[timvp]

CP3 and Kobe? Two ball dominators?

Don't see that working.

[timvp]

Well I guess the good news for the Spurs is that they suddenly don't need as much as size as they did when they woke up this morning. No way the Spurs could ever beat the Lakers with Kobe, Gasol, Odom and Bynum. Just way too big.

This new version of the Lakers is at least beatable on paper.

[Trill Clinton]

This is a win for the Hornets. once again the Spurs FO proving we know how to make deals. Now if only the current Spurs FO can shake the rust off and do the same.

[ajballer4]

Starting PF on opening day is Caracter. They don't have another big right now to replace Bynum with for the first 5 games

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

daldridgetnt David Aldridge
While we watch the Commish and wait for the CP3 deal to drop like a new foal..source says FA guard Jamaal Tinsley has agreed to terms w/Utah

[kjhip1]

LA will be exposed in the frontline especially if Bynum goes down, which happens 50% of the time..really big risk to send of 2 bigs...read on ESPN that they are saving Bynum in hopes of getting Howard in a trade...doesnt seem likely to me though...

then again LA did get Gasol for pennies

[benefactor]

Love this deal. LA just got worse.

lol if they think Orlando is going to take man tits for Howard.

[benefactor]

then again LA did get Gasol for pennies
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/78/Jerry_West.jpg

[kjhip1]

Love this deal. LA just got worse.

lol if they think Orlando is going to take man tits for Howard.

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[WeNeedLength]

Love this deal. LA just got worse.

lol if they think Orlando is going to take man tits for Howard.

It's always possible with the Lakers.... :downspin:

[TD 21]

This is a terrible trade for the Hornets. They should be re-building with young, high upside players and draft picks. Not veterans who have plateaued as a cut under All-Star caliber. What's their goal, to be a perennial one and done team? I don't get this at all. Looks like another team (owned by the league, no less) has conveniently stepped up to help the Lakers just when they're beginning to fade.

It may not look great right now for them, but they will get Howard, which will give them three of the top six to at worst eight players in the game and unlike the Heat, their big three will have no overlap in their games. The front line may look bare, but they'll take Turkoglu with Howard. As bad as he is, he beats the vaunted Caracter/Walton duo. And some half decent veteran PF will sign their on the cheap for a shot at a championship.

[tdunk21]

lakers are trying to pull this crap and we are just sitting ducks waiting for vet SF's to accept our offers.....

[kjhip1]

lakers are trying to pull this crap and we are just sitting ducks waiting for vet SF's to accept our offers.....

it is what it is...small market team..but FIRST CLASS all the way...seems like everyone that visits our team says the same stuff and somehow ends up with a huge contract from another team..

[DesignatedT]

Chalk me up for one who isn't remotely afraid of facing Chris Paul. Don't mind this deal at all.

[benefactor]

I have a guy that is a trainer at my gym who is a huge Lakers homer. I can't wait to talk to him and see how he spins this as good for the Lakers.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

I'm not sure the Lakers do this deal if they don't know that Howard is definitely somewhere in the picture here. Orlando would be stupid to send him to LA in a trade centering around Bynum. But I have a feeling that what we're going to see going forward.

[Dex]

Gentleman, start your engines....it's officially Free Agency season.

And only 6 months late...

Should be a pretty whacky day tomorrow. At least we should know one thing by the end of Friday: Will we see Dice for another season?

[Mel_13]

Gentleman, start your engines....it's officially Free Agency season.

And only 6 months late...

Should be a pretty whacky day tomorrow. At least we should know one thing by the end of Friday: Will we see Dice for another season?

I really like everything about Dice, but I don't want to see him back on the court this season.

[Dex]

I really like everything about Dice, but I don't want to see him back on the court this season.

Agreed. Dice was a great guy and an awesome player in his prime...but if he dons a Spurs uniform again, I won't be able to get past images of him biting on pump fakes and failing to close out fast enough on jump shots from Zbo and Gasol Jr. We've already got one center running on fumes, we don't need another.

[Dex]

Okay, I lied. Free Agency doesn't start until 2pm E.T. Friday.

[mountainballer]

Pietrus to the Raptors!!!???


Mickael Pietrus reached an agreement with Toronto Raptors as reported by Sud Ouest. Via @Passionbasket about 41 minutes ago

Non prolongé par les Suns, Mickaël Pietrus aurait accepté une offre des #Raptors ! Les détails du contrat n'ont pas filtré. (Sud-Ouest)

http://twitter.com/Passionbasket


WTF????
didn't know he was on the market.
(seems as if he had a PO for this season and opted out?)
well, one more some Spurs fan will soon start crying about.

[mudyez]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/217198/Dwight_Howard_Expected_To_Request_Trade_To_Nets

now I'm sad, the Paul-trade didnt went down :)

[elemento]

Pietrus to the Raptors!!!???



WTF????
didn't know he was on the market.
(seems as if he had a PO for this season and opted out?)
well, one more some Spurs fan will soon start crying about.

WOW

I didn't know he had opted out ! He had a player option of 5.3m

[benefactor]

Should be an interesting day. How will the Paul drama unfold? Will Howard get traded? Will the Spurs sign Finley?

Lots to look forward to.

[mudyez]

David Stern trades Dell Demps+2 firstrounders for David Kahn and a highlightvideo if Ricky Rubio!

[dougp]

If the Rockets are looking to move Scola, let's send them RJefferson, McDyess and Bonner for Scola and Martin.

[Mel_13]

Pietrus to the Raptors!!!???



WTF????
didn't know he was on the market.
(seems as if he had a PO for this season and opted out?)
well, one more some Spurs fan will soon start crying about.

He didn't opt out and wasn't a free agent. It was a trade. Salary dump by Phoenix as all they got was a conditional second round pick in return. Toronto had the cap space to absorb the contract.

http://thestar.blogs.com/raptors/2011/12/raptors-on-verge-of-adding-pietrus.html

[mudyez]

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/real_hornets_nest_MXj4jqOHI8OvGEx7yJlxEJ

I want to see Rondo, Amare, Gasol, Odom and others to join forces on the "Anaheim Disgrundled Superstars" (f.k.a. Sacremento Kings)!

[tmtcsc]

Well I guess the good news for the Spurs is that they suddenly don't need as much as size as they did when they woke up this morning. No way the Spurs could ever beat the Lakers with Kobe, Gasol, Odom and Bynum. Just way too big.

This new version of the Lakers is at least beatable on paper.

So was the old version.

Signed, The Sweeping Dallas Mavericks

[Bruno]

Not worth creating a thread but Spurs will sign D-League bigman Doug Thomas for their training camp.

Link: link: http://www.rgj.com/article/20111209/SPORTS10/112090363/Reno-Bighorns-Three-players-invited-NBA-camps?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|Sports

Stats: http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/doug_thomas/career_stats.html

[Mel_13]

Free agent forward Shelden Williams will sign a one-year deal with the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

[ace3g]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The Phoenix Suns will trade Mickael Pietrus to the Toronto Raptors in exchange for a second-round pick, according to @SmithRaps.

[Mugen]

lol thats all it took to get Pietrus?

Now this means Hill is going back to PHO is a sure thing.

Somebody needs to bail RC out of county so he can do his damn job.

[Mr. Body]

Somebody needs to bail RC out of county so he can do his damn job.

He's too busy sucking Rick Perry's cock.

[TDMVPDPOY]

spurs should sign roy and play him 10games...lol portland

i think the lakers will do it to get back at the nba owners

[Nathan89]

So who might be interested in RJ?

[yavozerb]

So who might be interested in RJ?


nobody, that is why he will probably be cut..

[ace3g]

paulcoro Paul Coro
Grant Hill has agreed to return to the Suns for a one-year, $6.5 million contract.

[yavozerb]

paulcoro Paul Coro
Grant Hill has agreed to return to the Suns for a one-year, $6.5 million contract.

Again, not to dissapointed in the results...Cannot see why the spurs would cut RJ with no possible replacement though.

[tdunk21]

Again, not to dissapointed in the results...Cannot see why the spurs would cut RJ with no possible replacement though.


@JMcDonald_SAEN
Jeff McDonald
Spurs haven't amnestied RJ yet.

[DesignatedT]

Have you been allowed to amnesty before FA officially begins at 2pm ET?

[tdunk21]

Have you been allowed to amnesty before FA officially begins at 2pm ET?

IMO i guess players have to be amnestied before 2pm ET so that they can negotiate with other teams...and if no one claims them after being amnestied they become UFA..

[Buddy Holly]

IMO i guess players have to be amnestied before 2pm ET so that they can negotiate with other teams...and if no one claims them after being amnestied they become UFA..

NOTHING can happen until 2 pm. Including amnestying players.

[DesignatedT]

Than that's why he hasn't been amnestied yet. lol

[ace3g]

AlexKennedyNBA Alex Kennedy
The Orlando Magic and Boston Celtics are discussing a sign-and-trade for Glen Davis, sources confirm. Magic may be dealing Brandon Bass.
f

[024]

KDonhoops:
Berman of the Post. RT @paulcoro: Grant Hill has agreed to return to the Suns for a one-year, $6.5 million contract.

[024]

bass to boston for glen davis deal is done according to yahoo sports.

[TDMVPDPOY]

bass to boston for glen davis deal is done according to yahoo sports.

seems like boston are clearin roster and rebuilding

but glen davis is fkn good for a guy that gets plays run for him

[elec99]

This just in: Brandon Roy is done. on Yahoo.

Brandon Roy is set to retire, way earlier than he should have to
By Kelly Dwyer

It was knee trouble that moved several teams to pass on Brandon Roy in the 2006 draft, until the Portland Trail Blazers swung a trade to acquire him with the sixth pick in 2006. It was knee trouble that limited his minutes in the years following, that put him on the shelf for months at a time, and that led us to cheer for the star-in-waiting as a martyr-on-court as he seemed to overcome the trouble in a thrilling performance during last spring's playoffs.
It's knee trouble, we're told, that is going to end the 27-year old's career sooner rather than later. ESPN's Chris Broussard first reported the news, and Yahoo! Sports' Adrian Wojnarowski offered these details on Friday morning:
Portland's Brandon Roy has been diagnosed with a "career-ending (knee) injury," league source confirms to Y! Sports. "He's done."
And it's so incredibly sad.
Just two years ago, Roy was nipping on Kobe Bryant's heels. His per game numbers were limited due to Portland's league-slowest pace, but when you accounted for that pace his accomplishments were substantial. He managed a Player Efficiency Rating of 24 at age 24 (Kobe's career PER, for comparison's sake, is 23.5), all while working with a Blazers team that seemed on the cusp of greatness, behind their three-time All-Star.
In April of the following year, Roy tore the meniscus in his right knee. He returned too soon to play in that spring's playoffs, and the combination of that tear, his lack of cartilage following a 2008 operation, and his career-long discomfort with both of his knees resulted in a 2010-11 campaign that was more frustrating than promising.
The highlight of that deadening season was clearly the dominant showcase that Roy put on during Game 3 of the Blazers' opening round series against Dallas, one that saw Roy score 16 points 23 minutes off of the Portland bench. This not only allowed Blazers fans to assume that an offseason of rest, coupled with the extended lockout, could have Roy back and firing at his 2009 levels once the 2011-12 season eventually tipped off. When word came of an amnesty provision in the newest collective bargaining agreement, one that would allow teams to cut highly-paid players like Roy in order to save salary cap space, fans of 29 other teams wondered if theirs could be the one to pick up Roy as he worked his way back to health.
The bone-on-bone situation in his knee, sadly, will be too much to overcome. Cartilage protects too much, and a lack of it hinders way, way too much for those attempting to perform at this level. Roy, for all his gifts, will not be able to overcome something he's lacking in centimeters.
To have this happen in Portland, following the star-crossed careers of Bill Walton, Sam Bowie, and Greg Oden? It seems just as unfair to the fans as it does to the 27-year old who will have to retire before he even hits his prime.

[elec99]

maybe now they can bid on RJ and help us out financially.

[timvp]

Ha, the Raptors were willing to absorb $5.3M for Pietrus? Not even sure he's worth half of that. Colangelo Jr. is beyond clueless.

[Seventyniner]

This just in: Brandon Roy is done. on Yahoo.

Sad. People talk about Cleveland fans suffering, but Blazers fans have taken it on the chin for a long time now.

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Y! Free Agent-Trade Buzz: Nets preparing huge offer for Nene Friday, reports swirling of tampering with Dwight Howard.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ys-nba_free_agent_buzz_120911

[Wildcat67]

Wish the Spurs would sign somebody soon. Getting a little annoyed with all these players going elsewhere.

Am I the only one that would love to have Mbah a Moute (however it's spelled)?

[Obstructed_View]

I think a lot of Spurs fans remember that game against Milwaukee where Mbah a Moute hit like ten outside jumpers. If only he could shoot that well all the time, but I'd take him for his defense even if he never took a single jumper.

[ace3g]

deepsixer3 Kate Fagan
#Sixers & restricted free agent Thaddeus Young are closing in on a deal to bring him back to the Sixers, multiple NBA sources have confirmed

[Mugen]

i am all for throwing 4-5 million at Luc Richard. Bucks just signed Dunleavy so not sure they'd want to pay that much for another SF.

AK47 isnt a realistic option. If the Bucks match then you go with Kawahi and JA at the 3 and tried to land another big with Blair/Dice.

Anybody. Any FUCKING body not named Vince carter or Michael Finley, please. Anybody.

[DesignatedT]

I'll take Mbah Moute although he can't shoot at all. He only attempted 7 threes last season, I can't see that happening in our system. Oh and he missed all 7 attempts. I didn't even know it was possible for a SF to play over 2000 minutes and only shoot 7 3s.

[smrattler]

Let's see, our front court couldn't hang with the big boys last year, and all we've done to get better is maybe lost McDyess or just gotten even older with him. Neither is really an improvement.

Our starting SF sucked so much at the end of last year that he got benched in the end, and all we've done to get better there is release him? I guess we can hope Andersen steps in, but he's basically a rookie still and I think more of a SG. And forget Leonard, he might get some fun time like rookies do with Pop, but he'll be lucky to make the playoff roster.

So... time to tank?

[tdunk21]

Marresse Speights will test the FA market, since sixers are planning to resign tony battie....as per espn insider

[Wildcat67]

I think a lot of Spurs fans remember that game against Milwaukee where Mbah a Moute hit like ten outside jumpers. If only he could shoot that well all the time, but I'd take him for his defense even if he never took a single jumper.


I don't even care about his offense. I just think he would be great to have for his defense and he could help Kawhi transition to the NBA game.

I feel we have plenty of offense/shooting with Parker, Neal, Ginobili, and Anderson.

[Obstructed_View]

I'll take Mbah Moute although he can't shoot at all. He only attempted 7 threes last season, I can't see that happening in our system. Oh and he missed all 7 attempts. I didn't even know it was possible for a SF to play over 2000 minutes and only shoot 7 3s.

Jesus Christ, whoever let him shoot that many threes should be fucking fired. I hope all of them were half court shots at the end of quarters. Seriously, who the fuck thinks it's a good idea for every single person on the team to get shots? So what if he never takes a shot that isn't a put-back? The Spurs have plenty of guys who can shoot. What they need is someone who can defend. Did we miss the playoffs?

[SenorSpur]

I think a lot of Spurs fans remember that game against Milwaukee where Mbah a Moute hit like ten outside jumpers. If only he could shoot that well all the time, but I'd take him for his defense even if he never took a single jumper.

I remember that game. I wondered to myself, "when did he develop that part of his game?"

If he can hit those jumpers against the Spurs in a live game, he could get better by torching the Spurs starters in practice.:lol

[ace3g]

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Marcus Thornton signed with Sac Kings for $40 million over five years, source says

[MaNu4Tres]

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Marcus Thornton signed with Sac Kings for $40 million over five years, source says

WoW

[Mugen]

lol same old owners

[DPG21920]

I wonder if the Spurs missing out on everyone has anything to do from blowback from Holt and the CBA negotiations?

[Mel_13]

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Marcus Thornton signed with Sac Kings for $40 million over five years, source says

Definitive proof that this market is grossly overpriced. Best to stick the MLE in their pocket and go with Leonard/Anderson.

[manufan10]

Gilbert Arenas was just released by the Magic.

[Mel_13]

NBA teams informed of key dates today, sources say. Window to amnesty players is Dec. 9 (today) thru Dec. 16. Trade deadline is March 15

One more note for when games actually start: From Dec. 25-Feb. 6, NBA teams allowed to dress/play 13 guys per game, one more than usual 12

http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

[DesignatedT]

Jesus Christ, whoever let him shoot that many threes should be fucking fired. I hope all of them were half court shots at the end of quarters. Seriously, who the fuck thinks it's a good idea for every single person on the team to get shots? So what if he never takes a shot that isn't a put-back? The Spurs have plenty of guys who can shoot. What they need is someone who can defend. Did we miss the playoffs?

I'm talking more about how SF are used in our system. You realize our SFs get 7 open looks from long range in 1 game the way he have it set up. Them being able to play 5 on 4 on defense isn't exactly recipe for success. Unless were willing to change the offense up a bit.

[Mel_13]

RT @JoshuaBRobbins: #Orlando #Magic have just announced that Gilbert Arenas has been waived

http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

[DesignatedT]

Thornton 40 mil? Wow.

[Obstructed_View]

lol same old owners

Agreed. Thornton averaged 21 points per game with them. Seems a little premature to give him that much money based on just a handful of games though.

[Ginobili2Duncan]

Chris_Broussard Chris Broussard
Marcus Thornton signed with Sac Kings for $40 million over five years, source says

Lockout? What Lockout?

[Obstructed_View]

I'm talking more about how SF are used in our system. You realize our SFs get 7 open looks from long range in 1 game the way he have it set up. Them being able to play 5 on 4 on defense isn't exactly recipe for success. Unless were willing to change the offense up a bit.

I see what you're saying. If that's the case, then Matt Bonner shouldn't be such a disaster. The Spurs have never relied on the three this much and had success doing it. The Spurs are not going to have easy threes like they did when Tim Duncan was dominant just because they're running plays to get them or stocking the roster with shooters. I'd much rather have four guys doing all the scoring if I know it's going to be a 70-85 point game. Maybe that's pie in the sky, but defense never takes a night off.

[timvp]

Kings must be desperate to reach the salary cap minimum. Who the hell were they bidding against to drive Thornton's value up that high?

[DesignatedT]

I see what you're saying. If that's the case, then Matt Bonner shouldn't be such a disaster. The Spurs have never relied on the three this much and had success doing it. The Spurs are not going to have easy threes like they did when Tim Duncan was dominant just because they're running plays to get them or stocking the roster with shooters. I'd much rather have four guys doing all the scoring if I know it's going to be a 70-85 point game. Maybe that's pie in the sky, but defense never takes a night off.

Yeah, well either way I'd rather be a defensive team who can't hit 3s than a 3 pt shooting team who cant defend. So I ultimately agree.

[Obstructed_View]

Yeah, well either way I'd rather be a defensive team who can't hit 3s than a 3 pt shooting team who cant defend. So I ultimately agree.

As you said, if the Spurs system is to shoot that many threes then it's time to change it up. Happy mediums are probably the best way to go about it.

[MaNu4Tres]

Kings must be desperate to reach the salary cap minimum. Who the hell were they bidding against to drive Thornton's value up that high?

My exact thoughts.

[Mel_13]

http://SI.com: #ChuckHayes accepts #SacramentoKings ' offer of four years and $21 million.

http://twitter.com/AlvaroNBAMartin

[8FOR!3]

http://SI.com: #ChuckHayes accepts #SacramentoKings ' offer of four years and $21 million.

http://twitter.com/AlvaroNBAMartin

Eww they gave a 6'6 center that sucks a 4 year 21 mil contract?

[GSH]

This tweet from Ethan Skolnick: The Heat got 3 years each of Battier and Jones for a combined total of less than $15M. Clippers paid $24M for 3 years of Caron.

It's starting to feel like Black Friday, when all the "doorbuster specials" are gone, and other people just keep buying shit like crazy.

[manufan10]

Roger Mason Jr has signed with the Wizards.

[manufan10]

David Aldridge is reporting that there is a snag in the Marcus Thornton deal, but that the deal "should" still get done.

[Seventyniner]

David Aldridge is reporting that there is a snag in the Marcus Thornton deal, but that the deal "should" still get done.

Here's the snag:
Kings: "Um, we said $2.4M, not $24M. Is that gonna be a problem?"

[ace3g]

WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Gary Forbes is nearing a two-year contract with a team option for a third with Toronto, league sources tell Y!

[GSH]

Here's the snag:
Kings: "Um, we said $2.4M, not $24M. Is that gonna be a problem?"

Heh... Decimal Point Amnesty Clause?

[Mr.Bottomtooth]

Kings renounced the rights to Samuel Dalembert. Gogogogogo.

[ace3g]

Kings renounced the rights to Samuel Dalembert. Gogogogogo.

http://www.nba.com/kings/news/press_release_2011_12_09.html

[ace3g]

freeppistons Freep Pistons
Source: Rip Hamilton has been waived by the Pistons. Will be bought out. Not an amnesty transaction.

[GSH]

Kings renounced the rights to Samuel Dalembert. Gogogogogo.

You have to love a guy described as "maddeningly inconsistent" and "low basketball IQ". That's Francisco Elson on steroids.

The sad thing is, I'm actually thinking about the fact that he' probably good for 8 and 8.

[timvp]

This tweet from Ethan Skolnick: The Heat got 3 years each of Battier and Jones for a combined total of less than $15M. Clippers paid $24M for 3 years of Caron.

Which Jones? James?


WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Gary Forbes is nearing a two-year contract with a team option for a third with Toronto, league sources tell Y!

Toronto first eats Pietrus' salary and now this? Someone put Colangelo out of his misery.


freeppistons Freep Pistons
Source: Rip Hamilton has been waived by the Pistons. Will be bought out. Not an amnesty transaction.

I mean, he's not really a small forward but the Spurs can't exactly be choosers right now.

[Duncan2177]

Please get Rip

[DesignatedT]

Rip will go to Chicago.

What about Nocioni? I thought he was going to get waived/amnestied or something.

[024]

freeppistons Freep Pistons
Source: Rip Hamilton has been waived by the Pistons. Will be bought out. Not an amnesty transaction.
it's time. make the call RC.

[benefactor]

Rip Hamilton just became the best option.

[Mugen]

why would anybody want Rip on the Spurs? Makes zero sense.

[Mugen]

hes a 2 guard who cant really shoot the 3 and is an average defender. Id rather go with JA/Kawahi any day than go with Hamilton.

[Russ]

I mean, he's not really a small forward but the Spurs can't exactly be choosers right now.

So what's the difference between Rip Hamilton and Grant Hill?

A ring?

A demanding wife?

Maybe a better salary? :flag:

[NASpurs]

Rip will go to Chicago.


Hmm that actually makes sense for them and not us. Would be a nice pickup for them.

[ace3g]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Thunder to re-sign sharpshooter Daequan Cook to a two-year, $7.5 million deal, source tells @YahooSports.

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Knicks free agent forward Derrick Brown signs a 1-year minimum deal with Charlotte Bobcats, source tells @YahooSports.

sam_amick Sam Amick
Source says Marcus Thornton deal with Kings is done, but is now four years. Still waiting on a $ number.

[loveforthegame]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-mavericks-wright

Mavs sign Brendan Wright

[Mel_13]

Hearing Tyson Chandler's deal w/Knicks WILL end up as sign-and-trade w/Mavs, but Dallas will take back TBA low-salaried player Knicks choose.

Mavs' goal in that scenario would be creating sizable trade exception, since Chandler's first-year salary w/Knicks will be more than $12 mil

http://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine

[Spursfanfromafar]

@SpearsNBAYahoo
Marc J. Spears
Pacers re-sign big man Jeff Foster with 1-year deal, source tells @YahooSports.

[slick'81]

hey craig smith is available

[timvp]

SpearsNBAYahoo Marc J. Spears
Knicks free agent forward Derrick Brown signs a 1-year minimum deal with Charlotte Bobcats, source tells @YahooSports.

Didn't they just waive him last year in the middle of the season?

MJ, smh.

[Bruno]

Free agent forward Shelden Williams will sign a one-year deal with the New Jersey Nets, league sources tell Y! Sports.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

Bad news.
Shelden Williams was one of the best option for a cheap vet bigman.

[objective]

Earl Clark sign anywhere yet?

What about Krstic?

[Texas_Ranger]

Earl Clark sign anywhere yet?

What about Krstic?

Krstic will stay in Russia.

[Mel_13]

Doc Rivers said Jeff Green is here, on 1-year deal. Most likely, it's the $5.8 M qualifying offer.

http://twitter.com/SherrodbCSN

[DPG21920]

Again, does no one think the Spurs whiffing on every FA has anything at all to do with agent backlash for Holt's actions during labor negotiations? Not saying it's a major factor, but nothing?

[ace3g]

ESPNSteinLine Marc Stein
Sources tell ESPN that Mavs closing in on signing of Vince Carter and could have deal to reunite VC w/Jason Kidd done as early as Saturday

Good hope the Mavs sign him

[DPG21920]

He could help the Mavs some, but not enough to offset losing Tyson.

[DPG21920]

Wonder if the Mavs will get to use their large TE on someone.

[timvp]

Again, does no one think the Spurs whiffing on every FA has anything at all to do with agent backlash for Holt's actions during labor negotiations? Not saying it's a major factor, but nothing?

Doubt it. Holt was mostly just Stern's puppet and was used as an example of "OMG even successful small market owners are losing money we need to do something drastic!!!1!!"

[objective]

Posey has not reported to Pacers camp. Pacers supposed to be looking at their options.

Posey is the right kind of washed up to be Pop's new Finley.

Do it RC! (seriously, do not do it)

[lurker23]

Again, does no one think the Spurs whiffing on every FA has anything at all to do with agent backlash for Holt's actions during labor negotiations? Not saying it's a major factor, but nothing?

So far the "whiffing" the Spurs have been doing has been the sound of being outspent by teams with more than the MLE, and overpaying at that.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i doubt theres a backlash, getting paid millions is still better then nothin...