World Wrestling Entertainment thread

[Avante]

Nothing wrong with thinking he's a worthless pos

translation

I can't stand anyone who really knows things, that damn Avante.

[Avante]

I think I'm going to be eating my words when I said Punk was gone.... I'm hearing he'll be back tomorrow on Raw in Chicago. If I'm wrong, I'm wrong. But I don't think I am.

I heard it was an angle at first, then no it was legit gone, but......I didn't think he'd be gone long.

CM Punk vs Daneil Bryan,.....do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Trainwreck2100]

I've got nothing against people who know things. I'm vehimently against worthlesss pos assholes

[Avante]

I've got nothing against people who know things. I'm vehimently against worthlesss pos assholes

You really do have it bad guy, I do pity you. It's real obvious you are a prick.

[Trainwreck2100]

Its obvious you're a worthless pos asshole

[Avante]

You're always so worried about everyone else, what's with that anyway? I couldn't care less what you do a long as it has nothing to do with me. Yet you go out of your way to bug people, why?

[Trainwreck2100]

You started this I wasn't talking to you you went out of your way to attack me Mr. I don't go out of my way. But that's right you're a liar. (a statement you can't deny cause your lies have been recorded on here) But feel free to ignore this post because its the trut, which you love to do

[Avante]

You started this I wasn't talking to you you went out of your way to attack me Mr. I don't go out of my way. But that's right you're a liar. (a statement you can't deny cause your lies have been recorded on here) But feel free to ignore this post because its the trut, which you love to do

Totally ignore me little guy and I'll do the same to you, deal? You add...0.

[Trainwreck2100]

Totally ignore me little guy and I'll do the same to you, deal? You add...0.

We've had this discussion before and you don't hold up your end

[Trainwreck2100]

Because you're a liar

[Trainwreck2100]

Also this is the part where you say "whatever man I'm done with you"

[Avante]

We've had this discussion before and you don't hold up your end

Dude, are you saying I pay any attention to you at all ..unless...you are talking about me? I don't like you asshole, ok? You're a prick and I wish you'd simply bug others, ok?

Dude, you suck, now scram!

[Trainwreck2100]

Dude, are you saying I pay any attention to you at all ..unless...you are talking about me? I don't like you asshole, ok? You're a prick and I wish you'd simply bug others, ok?

Dude, you suck, now scram!

I say you do and you post in my thread even when you're not mentioned.

[Spursfan092120]

I heard it was an angle at first, then no it was legit gone, but......I didn't think he'd be gone long.

CM Punk vs Daneil Bryan,.....do it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That would be a good match..but I guarantee if they bring Punk back, he's going to go against HHH at WM...it'll happen...if Punk returns tonight.

[Trainwreck2100]

That would be a good match..but I guarantee if they bring Punk back, he's going to go against HHH at WM...it'll happen...if Punk returns tonight.
Punk didn't want to lose to Bryan so he bolted now bryans being set up the exact same way punk was in 2011.

[Spursfan092120]

Punk didn't want to lose to Bryan so he bolted now bryans being set up the exact same way punk was in 2011.
Meh...don't believe that for a second. Punk and Bryan are very close friends. Punk wouldn't mind putting him over. Matter of fact, part of why Punk left was because Batista was being put over as the Rumble winner instead of Bryan.

[Trainwreck2100]

Meh...don't believe that for a second. Punk and Bryan are very close friends. Punk wouldn't mind putting him over. Matter of fact, part of why Punk left was because Batista was being put over as the Rumble winner instead of Bryan.
I meant punk didn't want to lose hhh. They wanted to do punk/hhh at wm30. My phone must have fucked up the post

[Avante]

That would be a good match..but I guarantee if they bring Punk back, he's going to go against HHH at WM...it'll happen...if Punk returns tonight.

I wonder if he was suppose to return Monday night then something happened. So they sent Heyman out there to bullshit some time away that was suppose to be Punks. I get the impression Punk is hard to deal with.

[Spursfan092120]

I meant punk didn't want to lose hhh. They wanted to do punk/hhh at wm30. My phone must have fucked up the post
Oh..gotcha...well that would make sense. But I'm sure Punk would do business...he's never been the kind to not do business, no matter how much he didn't like what was going on.

[Spursfan092120]

I wonder if he was suppose to return Monday night then something happened. So they sent Heyman out there to bullshit some time away that was suppose to be Punks. I get the impression Punk is hard to deal with.
He probably is....but I don't know if he was supposed to be there or not. A source I know of who is usually very solid said he was positive Punk would be there. Even he has no idea what happened.

[Trainwreck2100]

So the dub pulled the trigger on the mania match. I still don't trust h to put Brian over but we'll see. And I'm calling it now that cena/wyatt match will be awful.

[Trainwreck2100]

Also rumor is they had to change it from hijacking raw to occupy raw because of that stupid plane

[Avante]

They need to split The Sheild up, all three could make it work a a singles star. While Ambrose has the best mic skills, Reigns has the look, it's Rollins who is the most talented. They need all the help they can get.

[Spursfan092120]

So the dub pulled the trigger on the mania match. I still don't trust h to put Brian over but we'll see. And I'm calling it now that cena/wyatt match will be awful.
I think Cena/Wyatt will actually be damn good. Everyone bashes Cena's wrestling skills, but he's not that bad. He's no worse than Stone Cold Steve Austin...or Hulk Hogan. And Rock/Austin at WM X7 was possibly the best match of all time...I was there to see it ringside. Cena has charisma and more crowd response than anyone, be it booing or cheering. H will put Daniel over...he has to, because then, it will put Bryan in the Main Event. Right now, Orton vs. Batista would be the worst WM Main event of all time. Nobody would enjoy 2 hated heels in the main event. Orton would get cheers, and that's the last thing H wants.

[Spursfan092120]

They need to split The Sheild up, all three could make it work a a singles star. While Ambrose has the best mic skills, Reigns has the look, it's Rollins who is the most talented. They need all the help they can get.
I agree with this....100%...I think it's in the works. I'm starting to change my mind about Reigns...I didn't think he'd be able to make it because of his lack of mic skills....but he's getting a little better. Ambrose is going to be a main eventer one day...as is Reigns. Rollins, sadly, will be a mid-carder unless something major happens. WWE doesn't like the smaller guys at the top.

[TDMVPDPOY]

what a fkn shit crow at WM, no chanting or whatever

undertaker game over

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

wow... takers streak is over

[Trainwreck2100]

What the fucking fuck, lesnar? Seriously?

[Spursfan092120]

What a waste of the streak. Lesnar? Really? It could have at least been someone young that they could push like Reigns or something like that. Brock isn't going to be here for long, and even so, he's only here for a few pay per views a year. Completely ridiculous.

[KaiRMD1]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BklWn5tCUAA7yZb.jpg:large

[Spursfan092120]

lol....so glad someone got that shot...I lost it when I saw that guy.

[Trainwreck2100]

http://giant.gfycat.com/RaggedFlawlessDachshund.gif

[BanditHiro]

What a waste of the streak. Lesnar? Really? It could have at least been someone young that they could push like Reigns or something like that. Brock isn't going to be here for long, and even so, he's only here for a few pay per views a year. Completely ridiculous.

look at how the crowd reacted...do you really want to give the streak to a young guy and have him deal with the crowd that is probably going to detest him? Now having that young guy feud with the guy that beat the streak would probably do wonders for that superstar

[Trainwreck2100]

Even lesnar guy was fucking shocked

[Kawhi]

http://giant.gfycat.com/RaggedFlawlessDachshund.gif
:cry

[TDMVPDPOY]

it was bs, taker had all the momentum then he just bends over on a f5 out of nowhere

[Thebesteva]

I was about to make a joke about how the WWE is scripted but I just remembered I watch the NBA

[TE]

Takers streak shouldn't have ended. It would've made for a better WM31 match with Sting imo...fuck it


I can't wait for Sting to make his appearance (rumored) tonight on Monday Night Raw...I'll be watching that shit

[mudyez]

Takers streak shouldn't have ended. It would've made for a better WM31 match with Sting imo...fuck it


I can't wait for Sting to make his appearance (rumored) tonight on Monday Night Raw...I'll be watching that shit

The Sting:Taker match probably doesn't need the streak and it can be the double retirement both of these guys deserve.

We gotta be glad that we won't see Taker coming to WM50 and fighting 18 year old Billy Cena just to keep his streak alive.

I'm a Taker fan for about 20 or 21 years now, and I say "it's ok to not keep it going!".

[KaiRMD1]

Honestly, with the way Taker was moving, his body couldn't go through another Mania. The best part of this match was the ending because that crowd reaction was fuckin' epic, I don't care who you are. Sadly the divas match that followed was atrocious and just got totally shitted on. Either way, awesome move by WWE

[Dallas]

Excellent move.

[Venti Quattro]

Taker's streak schtick became so overrated and was only the thing keeping Undertaker's career alive. Good move from the WWE to pull the plug.

Now the Undertaker has something to return for.

[TDMVPDPOY]

Taker's streak schtick became so overrated and was only the thing keeping Undertaker's career alive. Good move from the WWE to pull the plug.

Now the Undertaker has something to return for.

return for what?

he had like a year off, yet comes back tosb...expected him to jump on them vitamins tosb vince or hogan was on, then made them look buff but no strength in them fake muscles

[Dallas]

The MizVerified account‏@mikethemiz (https://twitter.com/mikethemiz)

I can't believe it!!!! The STREAK is OVER...4-1 but at least I've never been pinned or submitted. #ThankYouMiz (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23ThankYouMiz&src=hash)

[Spursfan092120]

look at how the crowd reacted...do you really want to give the streak to a young guy and have him deal with the crowd that is probably going to detest him? Now having that young guy feud with the guy that beat the streak would probably do wonders for that superstar
Yes...that's exactly what I want to do. These guys are professionals. I guarantee you any of those young guys in the back would have jumped at the chance to be the one to break the streak. It needed to end...Taker's done. Matter of fact, he was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance with a possible concussion and a neck injury. Apparently Brock and Paul went as well. Brock felt horrible, even though it wasn't his fault..it was just too much. If it was going to be done, it needed to be someone Taker could put over that was a young guy. Someone who would get an automatic push out of it. Lesnar isn't going to get any bigger in this business than he is now. So the end of the streak was wasted...period.

[Darth_Pelican]

Yes...that's exactly what I want to do. These guys are professionals. I guarantee you any of those young guys in the back would have jumped at the chance to be the one to break the streak. It needed to end...Taker's done. Matter of fact, he was rushed to the hospital in an ambulance with a possible concussion and a neck injury. Apparently Brock and Paul went as well. Brock felt horrible, even though it wasn't his fault..it was just too much. If it was going to be done, it needed to be someone Taker could put over that was a young guy. Someone who would get an automatic push out of it. Lesnar isn't going to get any bigger in this business than he is now. So the end of the streak was wasted...period.

I read that it was Taker's choice to have Lesnar break the streak, and he actually wanted the match back in 2010. So yeah while it wasn't the smartest business decision, I guess they felt that Taker earned the right to choose who broke the streak. Anyways, I attended mania last night and it was pretty fun. I'm going to Raw tonight also and if it's anything like the last 2 post-mania Raws, then it should be awesome.

[Dallas]

Don't get the incentive for a younger guy to end the streak. Flair's career should've been ended by Kennedy, but ended up being Michaels. Michaels's career should've been ended by Punk, but ended up being Taker. Passing of the torch is BS.

[GenuineLakerfan]

The point of all this was to get people to talk about Wrestlemania. They knew the best way to get people talking was this type of 'dare I say' controversy

[Spursfan092120]

I read that it was Taker's choice to have Lesnar break the streak, and he actually wanted the match back in 2010. So yeah while it wasn't the smartest business decision, I guess they felt that Taker earned the right to choose who broke the streak. Anyways, I attended mania last night and it was pretty fun. I'm going to Raw tonight also and if it's anything like the last 2 post-mania Raws, then it should be awesome.
I'm sure it will be awesome. I'm hearing a lot of rumors about tonight's Raw, but I won't spoil it for you. If Taker wanted Lesnar to break the streak, then I change my stance. He does have the right to choose it.

[Spursfan092120]

Don't get the incentive for a younger guy to end the streak. Flair's career should've been ended by Kennedy, but ended up being Michaels. Michaels's career should've been ended by Punk, but ended up being Taker. Passing of the torch is BS.
I wouldn't call it a "passing of the torch," because the torch is held by the titleholders...but I think it makes more business sense to have someone up and coming break the streak. It's a good opportunity for what the biggest push you can possibly get. But as I said in my last post, if Taker wanted Lesnar, he should get Lesnar.

[TE]

Raw is going to be fucking epic tonight

[TE]

not gonna lie...hhh plays the asshole who calls the shots perfectly..very underrated, imo...

[MeloHype]

http://i.imgur.com/gqsn0.gif

[MeloHype]

not gonna lie...hhh plays the asshole who calls the shots perfectly..very underrated, imo...one of the GOAT heels tbh

[TE]

one of the GOAT heels tbh
This generation's McMahon/Bischoff imo

[TE]

but still with the ability to wrestle at a high lvl

[TE]

here we go, finally

[Trainwreck2100]

Looks like wwe wised up and is turning the shield face before splitting them up.

[Spursfan092120]

Looks like wwe wised up and is turning the shield face before splitting them up.
Yeah...I see Ambrose/Rollins in a tag team and Reigns going off on his own. He could be the future. He's got the size, the bloodlines, the charisma...

[hehateme]

http://www.wwe.com/inside/ultimate-warrior-passes-away-26223975

[Trainwreck2100]

That's some crazy shit to hear about the warrior dude was just on tv the last 3 nights.

[TE]

Wtf he was on Raw yesterday

[MeloHype]

That's some crazy shit to hear about the warrior dude was just on tv the last 3 nights.wasn't he on raw last night?

[TE]

Man,...rip :depressed

[hehateme]

He looked a little winded last night so I assume it was heart related
or suicide which I hope isn't true.

[MeloHype]

http://instagram.com/p/mjlgq4nk9M/

[MeloHype]

453758630722928640

[TE]

Crazy. Just can't take any day for granted...

[Venti Quattro]

Another hoax imo tbh

[manufan10]

RIP Ultimate Warrior :cry

[manufan10]

"Man's heart one day beats its final beat, his lungs breathe their final breath. And if what that man did in his life makes the blood pulse through the body of others, and makes them believe deeper in something larger than life, then his essence, his spirit, will be immortalized by the storytellers, by the loyalty, by the memory, of those who honor him and make whatever the man did live forever." - Ultimate Warrior; Monday Night RAW April 7, 2014.

Seems a little prophetic now. RIP Ultimate Warrior

[Darth_Pelican]

"Man's heart one day beats its final beat, his lungs breathe their final breath. And if what that man did in his life makes the blood pulse through the body of others, and makes them believe deeper in something larger than life, then his essence, his spirit, will be immortalized by the storytellers, by the loyalty, by the memory, of those who honor him and make whatever the man did live forever." - Ultimate Warrior; Monday Night RAW April 7, 2014.

Seems a little prophetic now. RIP Ultimate Warrior

It's like he knew that this was going to be his farewell speech... crazy shit. I was fortunate enough to attend that Raw and see it in person. RIP

[manufan10]

It's like he knew that this was going to be his farewell speech... crazy shit. I was fortunate enough to attend that Raw and see it in person. RIP

I was there for WrestleMania, but unfortunately had to go to work on Tuesday so I couldn't stay for RAW. Now I wish I could have been there to see it.

[Spursfan092120]

Warrior signed the 2 year contract knowing his health was in decline. It was kind of a way to say goodbye and get money to help his family. Vince is going to honor the contract and pay the money to his family. Crazy to see all this unfold. I kind of saw him being a little weak when he shook the ropes and he swayed a bit when going back up the ramp. Incredibly sad. RIP Warrior.

[Venti Quattro]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cAXfUjw3M4

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[Kawhi]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cAXfUjw3M4

:lmao :lmao :lmao

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Most boring wwe champ of all time

[Girasuck]

Most boring wwe champ of all time

Yes! The Miz was the most boring wwe champ of all time. I agree.

[manufan10]

Man, the tribute to Ultimate Warrior to kick off RAW last night really had me going. :cry

RIP Ultimate Warrior

[Trainwreck2100]

Apparently sting has shown up on the wwe network for warrior docs. Maybe they signed him to a legends deal

[Avante]

While it is a shame about the Ultimate Warrior it's more of a shame that the WWE didn't give Randy Savage that kind of respect when he passed on, he was a bigger name that the Ultimate Warrior who was actually sort of a joke.

[mudyez]

While it is a shame about the Ultimate Warrior it's more of a shame that the WWE didn't give Randy Savage that kind of respect when he passed on, he was a bigger name that the Ultimate Warrior who was actually sort of a joke.

We may neverknow what happened with Steph and the Macho Man.

But yeah, it's time to give Randy what he deserves.

[Spursfan092120]

Apparently sting has shown up on the wwe network for warrior docs. Maybe they signed him to a legends deal
He's not signed yet...he has the contract...just hasn't signed it. Not sure if he'll have a match yet...maybe at WM31...but maybe not.

[Trainwreck2100]

He's not signed yet...he has the contract...just hasn't signed it. Not sure if he'll have a match yet...maybe at WM31...but maybe not.

I'm sure they want some kind of licensing deal he doesn't really need a match

[Spursfan092120]

I'm sure they want some kind of licensing deal he doesn't really need a match
No..he doesn't...and yeah, I know you're right...but one retirement match would be pretty amazing.

[manufan10]

They've been clamoring for a Sting vs Undertaker match, and now that the streak is over it makes more sense.

[manufan10]

9RAhxhIHdpM

:cry

[TheCultOfPersonality]

It's nice of the WWE to remind us that the Intercontinental Championship and the United States Championship still exist.

[manufan10]

It's nice of the WWE to remind us that the Intercontinental Championship and the United States Championship still exist.

They do this occasionally, and get the fans thinking the belts are relevant again only for the WWE to forget about them a couple of weeks/months later. :lol

[manufan10]

Daniel Bryan is possibly going to miss 6 to 8 weeks due to a neck injury. What a bummer. :depressed

[Avante]

Bob Baklund was the most boring WWWF/WWF/WWEWorld Champion.

Is this Bryan neck surgery thing an angle or for real? I'd guess if it's for real that would help in bringing back CM Punk.

[manufan10]

With the WWE you never know. :lol But it does sound like it's real.

[Avante]

With the WWE you never know. :lol But it does sound like it's real.

If this is a real deal the guy might never rassle again, that would suck, he is a great performer. Yes that...YES! YES! YES!...bullshit sucks, but ya can't have it all.

The powers that be need to break up The Shield all three of those guys could make it as single rasslers. And without Bryan and Punk they need all the help they can get. I'd turn Cena into a heel, nobody likes him anyway.

[Avante]

When I buy the WWE (next check) there will be some changes made.

Good bye Batista and John Cena, yep, we need a change. I'll make CM Punk a deal he can't refuse and bring Brock Lesnar in to be a full time performer. Roman Reigns will become a major player, Ambrose and Rollins my tag champs. Oh yeah, good bye Wyatts, they suck.

Not sure what to do with Daneil Bryant due to his condition, if he can come back he's my champ with Orton fueding with Punk for the rights to face Bryant. Triple H will go back to wrestling he will be a major player. I'll dump Smackdown, one show is all I need.

Big E Langston
Shaemus
Bad News Barrett
Dolph Ziggler
The USO's
Cody Rhodes
Dustin Rhodes....yep dropping that Golddust bullshit
Giant
Kane
Alberto Del Rio

.....I'd keep, everyone else....see ya! Now I start searching the indies for new talent.

[Trainwreck2100]

Lol last night they finally split the shield in a pretty anticlimactic way

[Avante]

If all goes well we could have...

Randy Orton
Roman Reigns
John Cena....a heel
Dean Ambrose
Daneil Bryant
CMPunk
Brock Lesnar
TrIple H
Seth Rawlings

all as single competitors. That would be as good as it's been for a long time.

[Girasuck]

bye bye 3MB.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

WWE releases

JTG - what took them so long?
Drew McIntyre -whatever
Jinder Mahal -whatever
Aksana -whatever
Curt Hawkins -whatever
Theodore Long -whatever
Camacho - Who?
Brodus Clay -whatever
Evan Bourne -whatever
Yoshi Tatsu -whatever
Marc Harris (referee) -Who?

Hornswoggle, Santino, The Below Average Khali, Tensai, Justin Gabriel should be next on the list. Get rid of all the dead weight.

Oh well. I'm sure TNA is licking their chops.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

I'm starting to think that they're trying to turn Lana into a babyface with her dropping truth bombs about Obama and our U.S. Congress.

[Avante]

What's this about McMahon losing his ass on the WWE Network?

Anyway...

Fantastic idea (not that it wasn't obvious) breaking the Sheild up, they are great as singles and the WWE needs all the help they can get right now. Welcome back Jericho, I just wonder for how long?

[anakha]

WWE never got the bumber of subscribers for the Network they were expecting.

Jericho is probably going to put Wyatt and another guy over, then leave again.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

http://botchamaniaarchive.com/#

I'll just leave this here. Been watching a couple of these every day on my lunch break this summer. Plenty of old WCW, TNA, and indy footage in there as well it's all pretty damn funny.

[Avante]

When it come to actual talent in the ring Dolpf Ziggler delivers. Why he's still a third tier guy ...??? Right now him and Seth Rollins are the best performers they have. And if they let him Cody Rhodes would be there with them.

I realize that Rollins is getting a bit of a push but I doubt he gets where he should be. This can't be about lack of size since neither Bryan or Punk were big guys. Hmmmmm.....if those two came back and they did give Ziggler a push and Lesnar actually rassled, we'd see the best roster they've had in a long long time.

[Trainwreck2100]

lol Del Rio got fired for slapping a coworker

[RobbyH]

Below are current base salaries for WWE (http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/wwe-news/)executives:

* CEO and Chairman Vince McMahon (http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/profiles/50/vince-mcmahon/) - $1,184,500* Chief Financial Officer and Chief Strategy Officer George Barrios - $700,000
* Executive Producer Kevin Dunn - $700,000
* WWE Studios President Michael Luisi - $600,000
* Executive VP of Talent, Live Events and Creative Paul "Triple H (http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/profiles/45/triple-h/)" Levesque - $550,000
It should be noted that Triple H also has a $1,000,000 per year talent contract.

:lol Hunter
:lol burying Punk
:lol killing Bryan's momentum
:lol attention whoring on TV for the past year
:lol shoving the "I do what's best for business" card down all the marks' throats; actually only interested in making money for himself
:lol laughing his way to the bank
:lol can't stand the fact that Rock drew more money in 3 years of work than he did in 2 decades.

[Trainwreck2100]

Fuck this company is retarded

[King Emmanuel]

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm28/HCPMafia/1230001828164.jpg

[Trainwreck2100]

it's official, the network logo is the wwe official logo now

[Avante]

The WWE will be in nearby Fresno soon, I did think about it but since we fast forward past a good half of Raw.....nay!

Too much girlie shit, Santino, cartoon bullshit, we couldn't fast foreward in person.

All those behind the scenes who come up with the angles/story lines have never sucked worst than they do now. It's as if a bunch of rookies were running the biz,

[Trainwreck2100]

welp summerslam tonight no doubt brock walks out with the title

[Trainwreck2100]

welp summerslam tonight no doubt brock walks out with the title

too easy fuck this company

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Outside of the Miz-Ziggler match, every other result was predictable. Even the Nikki Bella heel turn.

[TE]

For some reason I actually enjoyed this PPV. Much of that has to do with Cena being thrown around like a rag doll. After all the push he got these last ten years (which imo has been the center of this companies collapse) it was refreshing to see his ass get kicked.

Lesnar winning opens up ideas for who to put over. They will now bill whoever is able to take out this overpowering mega heel. My money is on reigns.

[TE]

Also, I wonder what happens to cena now. Is he taking time off for acting? If he does return he'll feud with Rusev or some other lower tier wrestler.

[Trainwreck2100]

For some reason I actually enjoyed this PPV. Much of that has to do with Cena being thrown around like a rag doll. After all the push he got these last ten years (which imo has been the center of this companies collapse) it was refreshing to see his ass get kicked.

Lesnar winning opens up ideas for who to put over. They will now bill whoever is able to take out this overpowering mega heel. My money is on reigns.

last night showed reingns isn't ready for the ME just yet,the highlights of his match all belonged to orton and he has like 4 moves

[Avante]

What a shame Ryback is such a moron. He's the guy that matchs Lesnar physically, actually out matches him. But he just doesn't have...."it".

[Trainwreck2100]

RIP big gold belt, it got officially retired tonight, and it's long history with it

[TE]

last night showed reingns isn't ready for the ME just yet,the highlights of his match all belonged to orton and he has like 4 moves
You might be right. I expected someone to cut a promo with Lesnar in that one segment. That's the problem with this company though. They have failed at doing what they did best in the 90's-early 00's. They don't push their talent nearly as well...it hurts that the roster is somewhat stale.

Case in point this six man tag team tonight. It's just feeder material when promos and feuds should organically evolve from within in route to NOC.

RIP big gold belt, it got officially retired tonight, and it's long history with it
Yeah...so much history with that belt. Now that they've unified the belt what is the reason for smackdown? It feels like such a watered down minor league product.

[TE]

A little under an hour left...this match will take 30 mins. Leaving 30-45 minutes. Please don't disappoint...

[TE]

I get the idea that Rollins and Ambrose are having a feud but could it get anymore predictable.

[Trainwreck2100]

I get the idea that Rollins and Ambrose are having a feud but could it get anymore predictable.

that was their way of writing ambrose off to film a movie

[Avante]

Thank God for The Shield. Imagine the WWE without them, Bryan and Punk.......yikes!

[TheCultOfPersonality]

last night showed reingns isn't ready for the ME just yet,the highlights of his match all belonged to orton and he has like 4 moves
The best role for Reigns should be a bodyguard role.

[Trainwreck2100]

The best role for Reigns should be a bodyguard role.

Unfortunately vince is a moron still obsessed with big guys who back in the day were far better athletes because they were hopped up on steroids The wwe outlawed them so here we are

[Trainwreck2100]

Wow this was one of the worst raws in recent history

[TE]

I regret signing up for the WWE network. I've watched many of the programs offered, only ones I've enjoyed were this years summerslam and the Monday night wars mini-documentary. Everything else is shit unless nostalgia forces you to watch the past.

[Trainwreck2100]

I regret signing up for the WWE network. I've watched many of the programs offered, only ones I've enjoyed were this years summerslam and the Monday night wars mini-documentary. Everything else is shit unless nostalgia forces you to watch the past.

glad i saved my 9.99 9.99 9.99

[TE]

glad i saved my 9.99 9.99 9.99
Fuck you man :lol

[TE]

:cry at least I get access to a laggy PPV every month!

[Trainwreck2100]

What i miss the most, and i've said this before, is the electrifying crowds. The pops and chants from before invasion were the shit. Then mcmahon sold us out to 8 year olds, fell in love with "social media," and decided to copyright everything. The "wwe universe" is the dumbest fucking thing ever. Call em fans for fuck sake cause that's what they are

[TE]

:lmao Holy hell what a boring ass episode yet again. This company doesn't even try anymore.

:lmao:lmao inviting Michael Sam to Raw

[TE]

Yes, Paul Heyman!

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao Holy hell what a boring ass episode yet again. This company doesn't even try anymore.

:lmao:lmao inviting Michael Sam to Raw

i missed this shit the first time, what the fuck are they thinking, he got cut, shit happens, Also i want the bella shit to die already but i really want nickie bella to win the title just to fuck with anyone who still think the women's division isn't crap.

[TE]

The wwe women's division is crap. Ironic how this company showcases the Diva division they way they do now. Nothing like the mid-late 90's. It's filler crap to me.

[TE]

For some reason, Rollins doesn't appeal. No charisma whatsoever. Give Ambrose those keys, when he's back of course.

[TE]

Haha that first live WCW nitro is classic. Luger appearing out of nowhere after doing a house show for Raw.

[Trainwreck2100]

Haha that first live WCW nitro is classic. Luger appearing out of nowhere after doing a house show for Raw.
did you catch that "i'd rather be home watching nitro" sign. i loled

Also it's hilarious that cena's rocking hogan's colors now

[TE]

did you catch that "i'd rather be home watching nitro" sign. i loled

Also it's hilarious that cena's rocking hogan's colors now
I caught that.lol did you catch "tag me in"?perfectdescriptionof how shitty this show is now

[Trainwreck2100]

I caught that.lol did you catch "tag me in"?perfectdescriptionof how shitty this show is now

Pretty sure cenas out of people to beat

[DJR210]

:lmao Holy hell what a boring ass episode yet again. This company doesn't even try anymore.

:lmao:lmao inviting Michael Sam to Raw

:lmao they phoned in yesterday's RAW, now next week is gonna be an ode to faggots..supposedly Darren Young is butthurt (no pun intended) because ":cry (he) was the original queer in wrestling :cry"


I regret signing up for the WWE network. I've watched many of the programs offered, only ones I've enjoyed were this years summerslam and the Monday night wars mini-documentary. Everything else is shit unless nostalgia forces you to watch the past.

The six month commitment is the deal breaker IMO


The wwe women's division is crap. Ironic how this company showcases the Diva division they way they do now. Nothing like the mid-late 90's. It's filler crap to me.

It's beyond a joke..atrocious isn't even good enough to describe how bad the women's division is. TNA has some sexy women, but they actually wrestle. Taryn Terrelle doing a fucking diamond cutter off the ramp to the concrete? :lol that shit was sick

[DJR210]

Good watching here..


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd9likBRoY4

Joey Styles is the fucking man

[Trainwreck2100]

:lmao they phoned in yesterday's RAW, now next week is gonna be an ode to faggots..supposedly Darren Young is butthurt (no pun intended) because ":cry (he) was the original queer in wrestling :cry"



The six month commitment is the deal breaker IMO



It's beyond a joke..atrocious isn't even good enough to describe how bad the women's division is. TNA has some sexy women, but they actually wrestle. Taryn Terrelle doing a fucking diamond cutter off the ramp to the concrete? :lol that shit was sick
That's alright the wwe has aj lee who's built like a 15 year old boy

[DJR210]

That's alright the wwe has aj lee who's built like a 15 year old boy

:lol I'd fuck her, but yeah, she has almost no ass. Plus that skipping shit makes me wanna come from nowhere with a Clotheshine from Hell while she makes her way to the ring and seriously injure her.

[Avante]

Some advice/comments...

RVD...retire

Brock Lesnar....talk

Golddust/Stardust....go back to Dustin/Cody

Big E. Langston.....when did your face stop growing?

Kane...see RVD

Roman Reigns....Bravo!

Seth Rollins....lose the multi hair color trip.

Dean Ambrose....youtube Moondog Mayne

TripleH&Stefanie....way too prediction even for pro rasslin'

Dolph Ziggler...Dolph Ziggler?

CM Punk....you are missed.

Randy Orton....where's the tan?

John Cena....you need a heel turn, back to your beginnings

Daneil Bryan...see CM Punk

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Brie gave Magic Johnson H.I.V. But Nikki never told anybody. #GrowingUpBella

Brie killed Travis Alexander and framed Jodi Arias. But Nikki never told anybody. #GrowingUpBella

Brie was able to convince Vince McMahon that the Katie Vick storyline would be a great idea. But Nikki never told anybody. #GrowingUpBella

Brie created the West Nile Virus. But Nikki never told anybody. #GrowingUpBella

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Who wants a WWE Network $9.99 Tishirt?

http://demandware.edgesuite.net/aaiw_prd/on/demandware.static/Sites-wwe-Site/Sites-main/default/v1409669909600/images/large/W08156.jpg

http://shop.wwe.com/WWE-Network-%249.99-T-Shirt/W08156,default,pd.html?dwvar_W08156_color=Black&st art=1&cgid=network

[TheCultOfPersonality]

:lmao Holy hell what a boring ass episode yet again. This company doesn't even try anymore.
Say what? You mean to tell me that this doesn't entertain you.

https://31.media.tumblr.com/35ea6f77407cba90bc4b5058279eb0c7/tumblr_nb95trQH6i1qcluu2o1_500.gif


:lmao:lmao inviting Michael Sam to Raw
Just dumb.

What's worse is JBL suggesting that they invite Roger Goddell to debate Michael Sam. http://i.imgur.com/FA2CI9v.gif

I mean really?! I usually like JBL and felt he was the voice of reason among the 2 other idiots at the announcers table, but he's becoming just as cringeworthy as them.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

The WWE has invited Jerry Springer to Raw to help settle the Bella twin feud.

http://www.inquisitr.com/1449214/wwe-news-jerry-springer-set-for-wwe-raw-next-week-will-help-to-settle-bella-twin-feud/

As for ESPN. To quote Stephen Marbury: "They scared now".

[DJR210]

Some advice/comments...

RVD...retire

Yes, he needs to retire. Out of shape, limited on the moveset that made him famous. He was used to get the younger guys "over", which I personally think was a failed plan; he didn't get shit over. His last show was last week, so he will be more than likely throwing in the towel to his career.

Brock Lesnar....talk

More like..appear at a show. Doesn't make sense that the WWE Champion is still working on a limited basis.

Golddust/Stardust....go back to Dustin/Cody

Goldust is fine, and is performing at a higher level than ever before in his career. Hurricanranas and flipping sentons off the apron? :lol. Cody will never be anything in a company that won't allow him the time to have a match. 8 matches on Raw this past Monday, and 5 ended in less than 3 minutes.. LMAO WWE is trash. Should take "wrestling" out of the name altogether.

Big E. Langston.....when did your face stop growing?

Trash. No room for 2 Mark Henry's

Kane...see RVD

Trash

Roman Reigns....Bravo!

Trash. Has 2 moves that I can recall. Spear (played out like a motherfucker) and a Superman punch. Boring. No skills on the mic. Being pushed to main event status due to his looks and being a member of the Anoioa (sp?) Wrestling Family

Seth Rollins....lose the multi hair color trip.

Sadly, he is definitely the most talented of the three from the former Shield, but his size and lack of character will keep him on the midcard w/o the crowd backing him. Was great in RoH.

Dean Ambrose....youtube Moondog Mayne

Great promos, comfortable on the mic. Sucks as a wrestler, but it's the WWE, wrestling is the last thing that matters.

TripleH&Stefanie....way too prediction even for pro rasslin'

:lol Fucked his way into Wrestling Royalty

Dolph Ziggler...Dolph Ziggler?

Bad Ass Billy Gunn 2.0 - sells moves better than anyone, but can't see him moving past his current spot on the roster

CM Punk....you are missed.

Don't worry, he will forever live on through chants during AJ Lee segments

Randy Orton....where's the tan?

Trash

John Cena....you need a heel turn, back to your beginnings

Trash, but a victim of horrible booking too. One week he shows up ready to destroy Brock, then the following week he is crying lawsuit. Shitty ass creative direction, and typical garbage 50/50 booking expected at the next "Sunday Night Raw". If they kill Brock's momentum as the biggest "monster" on the roster by allowing Cena to get his 50/50 win in their rematch, someone needs to lose their life in the front office.

Daneil Bryan...see CM Punk

2nd major neck surgery. See RVD and Kane

[Avante]

Golddust/Stardust....go back to Dustin/Cody

Goldust is fine, and is performing at a higher level than ever before in his career. Hurricanranas and flipping sentons off the apron? :lol. Cody will never be anything in a company that won't allow him the time to have a match. 8 matches on Raw this past Monday, and 5 ended in less than 3 minutes.. LMAO WWE is trash. Should take "wrestling" out of the name altogether.

As Dustin Rhodes he was ranked in the top 10 in the world and that was when we still had WCW and the AWA. He was a top dawg not a sideshow freak.

Totally disagree about Reigns. He's all you could want in a big guy, nobody expects these guys to move around lke a Ziggler. That's not why they are there. While he's no Jake "The Snake" or Dusty Rhodes on the mic he's good enought. It's his look/talent/sell, combo that is about s good as any other big guy,

[TE]

Looking back at this past week's show. Not even a Paul Heyman promo could save this abortion. The booking is terrible. Talent creativity is weak, lazy and incompetent. C'mon, why so many tag team matches? Only ONE motherfucking singles match.

The only good thing about Dallas picking up Michael Sam is it makes the WWE look like attention whores. No way will it ever compete with MNF the way it is going on right now. MNF will kill Raw and what's left of this talentless lazy company. As football season lasts, I can safely predict Raw's ratings will fall.

[TE]

Love or hate him, if you're going to continue watching Raw, Reigns will soon become a big face of the company. I don't mind him. His mic skills need work, "superman punch" has to go. That's one of the worst finishers I've ever seen. I mean does the WWE know the 18-34 demographic is watching?

[DJR210]

Looking back at this past week's show. Not even a Paul Heyman promo could save this abortion. The booking is terrible. Talent creativity is weak, lazy and incompetent. C'mon, why so many tag team matches? Only ONE motherfucking singles match.

The only good thing about Dallas picking up Michael Sam is it makes the WWE look like attention whores. No way will it ever compete with MNF the way it is going on right now. MNF will kill Raw and what's left of this talentless lazy company. As football season lasts, I can safely predict Raw's ratings will fall.

They just shuffled the writing team because it's been so bad. Honestly, no matter who they get to write, I'm gonna think it sucks as long as it's G rated


does the WWE know the 18-34 demographic is watching?

NXT is seriously the better of the WWE shows

[Trainwreck2100]

They just shuffled the writing team because it's been so bad. Honestly, no matter who they get to write, I'm gonna think it sucks as long as it's G rated



NXT is seriously the better of the WWE shows

Besides the shield and wyatt's everyone from nxt has done nothing

[DJR210]

Besides the shield and wyatt's everyone from nxt has done nothing

Yeah, it's when they leave that they get ruined. KENTA, Prince Devitt, and Kevin Steen are all preparing to be ruined down in NXT now

[Emily Rose]

Cena on the path to revenge? Gee, I wonder if he is going to beat Lesnar? What I loved and missed about the attitude era was how unpredictable shit was. The storylines were epic, backstage segments were fun, and you'd be glued to the tv for 2 hours. Early 1999 and late 2000/ early 2001 were the best years I had ever watched. Austin, Rock, Taker, Angle, HHH, Mankind etc. The hardcore matches were the shit!

[DJR210]

So we really need a 30 minute dialogue between Cena and Heyman?

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Cena on the path to revenge? Gee, I wonder if he is going to beat Lesnar? What I loved and missed about the attitude era was how unpredictable shit was. The storylines were epic, backstage segments were fun, and you'd be glued to the tv for 2 hours. Early 1999 and late 2000/ early 2001 were the best years I had ever watched. Austin, Rock, Taker, Angle, HHH, Mankind etc. The hardcore matches were the shit!
You can relive all of those Attitude Era moments. All you need is $9.99 :troll

[DJR210]

Only decent segment = NXT

[Avante]

Ya get into pro rasslin' as a little kid, it gets in your blood. As bad as it gets you just can't shake it.

[anakha]

Neville's finisher woke up the crowd.

With Zayn and him in the NXT main event, and with Steen(!), Devitt (!!), and KENTA(!!!) set to debut soon, NXT is the runaway best wrestling weekly show on TV nowadays.

[Trainwreck2100]

Fuck this company is retarded

[DJR210]

Neville's finisher woke up the crowd

Yes.

He is instantly over with the crowd because of that move. It just goes to show you can spend all this time and money promoting stupid fucking party monster gimmicks, movie stars, mimics, foreign monsters.. at the end of the day the wrestling itself is all that you need to get over with the crowd. Look at Tajiri.. he wrestled one match in front of the WWE crowd and was an instant star.

That is one of the best aerial finishers I have ever seen tbh. Just wait until Kenta gets some time to wrestle, he will win the crowd the same way. It sucks that CM Queer stole all his moves, but hey, we'll see what happens.

[TE]

My 9.99 looks good now with all the wcw shows I can watch. Just about every show I've seen so far (dating back to 96) is a much better product in terms of entertainment. Back then, id argue, much of the intrigue came with the amazing promos some wrestlers would put out there. Save for Heyman segments, the current product has NONE of this.

[TE]

And oh yeah, the matches aren't half bad either. Easily a much better product overall.

:lmao I feel bad for all these new age wrestling fans. I'm glad I got to live during the height of the Monday Night Wars.

[TE]

Yes.

He is instantly over with the crowd because of that move. It just goes to show you can spend all this time and money promoting stupid fucking party monster gimmicks, movie stars, mimics, foreign monsters.. at the end of the day the wrestling itself is all that you need to get over with the crowd. Look at Tajiri.. he wrestled one match in front of the WWE crowd and was an instant star.

That is one of the best aerial finishers I have ever seen tbh. Just wait until Kenta gets some time to wrestle, he will win the crowd the same way. It sucks that CM Queer stole all his moves, but hey, we'll see what happens.
CM Punk is a fucking bitch. What a cvnt for backing out of his contract.

[DJR210]

CM Punk is a fucking bitch. What a cvnt for backing out of his contract.

Yeah, his woman is more of a man that he is. Speaking of his woman..god damn you can iron some slacks on that ass.. but I'd still fuck her tbh.


And oh yeah, the matches aren't half bad either. Easily a much better product overall.

:lmao I feel bad for all these new age wrestling fans. I'm glad I got to love during the height of the Monday Night Wars.

Truth. Best era of wrestling IMO. It started with the ECW invasion on Raw when Sabu jumped off the RAW sign onto a bunch of WWF dudes..then the WCW invasion with the nWo. Then going back and forth every Monday until WWF finally pulled away for good. I always hated WCW, but for a while there you could not deny that they were the better show..great times, brings back a shit ton of memories.

[TE]

Yeah, his woman is more of a man that he is. Speaking of his woman..god damn you can iron some slacks on that ass.. but I'd still fuck her tbh.
Youre a subscriber right?

[DJR210]

Youre a subscriber right?

Hell no, my son will see his PPV on streaming sites.

I was gonna take my son to Raw on 10/27/14 for his Bday, but fuck..I simply cannot tolerate that shit for 4 hours..way to expensive for such a crappy product. I would rather take him to an indy show.

[TE]

Truth. Best era of wrestling IMO. It started with the ECW invasion on Raw when Sabu jumped off the RAW sign onto a bunch of WWF dudes..then the WCW invasion with the nWo. Then going back and forth every Monday until WWF finally pulled away for good. I always hated WCW, but for a while there you could not deny that they were the better show..great times, brings back a shit ton of memories.
Always remember watching wcw thunder and the Saturday show. I started following WWF more when Austin started his feud with McMahon. Rofl remember the Nation of Domination and The Brood. Now those were stables. Rofl compare that to the usos...

[TE]

Hell no, my son will see his PPV on streaming sites.

I was gonna take my son to Raw on 10/27/14 for his Bday, but fuck..I simply cannot tolerate that shit for 4 hours..way to expensive for such a crappy product. I would rather take him to an indy show.
Oh okay. It's worth it for now. My subscription ends right after Wrestlemania. I will end it if it continues to be a clusterfuck. Last night was better than the last two weeks, so, that's a start imo.

[DJR210]

Always remember watching wcw thunder and the Saturday show. I started following WWF more when Austin started his feud with McMahon. Rofl remember the Nation of Domination and The Brood. Now those were stables. Rofl compare that to the usos...

:lmao @ WCW Saturday Night..fucking Norman Smiley's own show.. and yeah, The Brood was the shit..one of the best entrace themes of all time, couple with one of the best entrances of all time.

I fucking cringe every time I see that lame ass USO entrance..smh..


Oh okay. It's worth it for now. My subscription ends right after Wrestlemania. I will end it if it continues to be a clusterfuck. Last night was better than the last two weeks, so, that's a start imo.

Yeah, don't get me wrong. The network has some good content. But what I don't agree with is the fact that the WWE Network basically renders all PPV's minus Summerslam, Royal Rumble, Survivor Series, Wrestlemania as 'Sunday Night Raw'. They do not need to put on a high quality show anymore as it's all subscription based.

Plus the 6 month committment is a deal breaker IMO.

[anakha]

Hell no, my son will see his PPV on streaming sites.

I was gonna take my son to Raw on 10/27/14 for his Bday, but fuck..I simply cannot tolerate that shit for 4 hours..way to expensive for such a crappy product. I would rather take him to an indy show.

Take him to a wwe house show.

They frequently do dry runs of ppv matches there, and there's a lot more fan interaction since there's no TV taping to worry about. Wrestlers will even act out of character a bit since they know this isn't getting televised.

Your kid gets to see his favorite guys, you see a lot more in-ring action. Everybody wins.

[DJR210]

Take him to a wwe house show.

They frequently do dry runs of ppv matches there, and there's a lot more fan interaction since there's no TV taping to worry about. Wrestlers will even act out of character a bit since they know this isn't getting televised.

Your kid gets to see his favorite guys, you see a lot more in-ring action. Everybody wins.

WWE does really well here, they literally do one house show a year. They come for Raw specifically 3-4 times a year..I took the fam to it the last time they were here, when Triple H "injured" Bryan a few weeks before WM.

I'm hoping TNA decides to move out of NYC, but I doubt they will.

[anakha]

509512052126126080

[DJR210]

Roids, pills, and coke will do it.

[mudyez]

BTW.: Listen to the Michelle Beadle + Bill Simmons B.S. report podcast from 9/8!

The "Let's Go Cena" Child was Bill Simmons' daughter!!! :D

[DJR210]

509512052126126080

Well at least he didn't kill his wife and kids..

http://www.wrestlezone.com/news/509689-tmz-reporting-suicide-as-cause-of-sean-ohaires-death

[Trainwreck2100]

Wow, this company just gets worse

[DJR210]

Wow, this company just gets worse

What brings you back week over week? I honestly don't know why I try tbh.

[TE]

Last nights Raw was predictable. I try and start every Raw with a positive mindset but it regresses to disappointment. The talent is definitely there. Hell, NXT has some very likeable wrestlers with a smudge of personality to them. Whoever the fuck is directing creativity and the writing is putting this shit show out there on purpose at this point. You couldn't be this bad at creativity even if you tried.

[BanditHiro]

putting Reigns over Rollins clean before their match this Sunday was really dumb booking. I'm guessing he is going to lose via some interference by Ambrose who will become a heel and they just needed the audience to make sure that Reigns beat Rollins clean before so he still better. That kind of overprotective booking is going to make people turn on Reigns really fast in the coming months and noway there is noway people will accept him beating Brock at Mania 31

[Avante]

Thank God they split The Shield up. Now it's time for a Cena heel turn.

[TE]

putting Reigns over Rollins clean before their match this Sunday was really dumb booking. I'm guessing he is going to lose via some interference by Ambrose who will become a heel and they just needed the audience to make sure that Reigns beat Rollins clean before so he still better. That kind of overprotective booking is going to make people turn on Reigns really fast in the coming months and noway there is noway people will accept him beating Brock at Mania 31
Yeah...Reigns shouldn't be put over that easily over another product they're trying to advertise on a similar level. Honestly, they shot themselves in the foot with that. The remnants of the shield will feud with each other, and this company will make sure of it to drain whatever out of that little feud. All we can hope for is they make it great entertainment. So far, we've gotten Ambrose being written off due to other commitments and a skinnier version of Reigns versus Reigns himself.

Thank God they split The Shield up. Now it's time for a Cena heel turn.
That would be glorious tbh. Some people argue it's too late for a Cena Heel turn. I am not of that mindset. A Cena turn would satisfy the 25+ demographic that actively boos and blames him for the watering down of this company.

[Venti Quattro]

People might actually start cheering for Cena if he does a heel turn

[TE]

^^^

Yeaup. People will cheer bad boy Cena...much like when the NWO started off as heels. That turn was enjoyable imo.

[anakha]

A Cena heel turn would not really impact overall crowd reactions that much.

The older crowd might indeed start cheering for him, but that would be balanced out by the kids not cheering for him anymore. You're also risking a ton of merch loss by kids not buying Cena gear anymore.

A heel turn that results in little live crowd net change but risks your merchandise revenue is a risk that WWE is understandably leery of making right now. Hogan's turn in WCW made more sense since he wasn't moving merch anymore.

[TE]

Maybe the older crowd would start buying Cena merch? I have to admit facts, Cena draws in a greater crowd than any active wrestler at the moment. A Heel turn would make people tune in more... that's if creative fumbles the ball again and waters down his heel turn.

[Trainwreck2100]

putting Reigns over Rollins clean before their match this Sunday was really dumb booking. I'm guessing he is going to lose via some interference by Ambrose who will become a heel and they just needed the audience to make sure that Reigns beat Rollins clean before so he still better. That kind of overprotective booking is going to make people turn on Reigns really fast in the coming months and noway there is noway people will accept him beating Brock at Mania 31

Ambrose turning heel makes No fucking sense and he still owes rollin. That match and outcome were equally retarded

[Venti Quattro]

When was the last time when Cena was a heel

[Avante]

When was the last time when Cena was a heel

I know he started off as a heel in the OVW. Orton, Batista and Lesnar also started out there, I think. I know they rassled there. Batista was Leviathian.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVeih_Gqakc

[DJR210]

WWE struggling is a good thing.. when they struggle, they cut talent.. Talent gets absorbed in other companies, and eventually true competition will rise somewhere (RoH is damn good, but they are the WWE's farm league at the moment because they can't afford to pay their talent) and challenge the WWE's supremacy.

Hopefully with ratings falling WWE will get desperate, opening the door for the Attitude Era 2.0. That would be the shit.

Also, Cena is almost a heel at the moment anyway. You get 50/50 or sometimes worse depending on the city. You get the kids and casuals who cheer him, but pretty much everyone else hates his stupid bullshit. The day after Wrestlemania, the "John Cena Sucks" chants were nearly 100%. The Wyatts were huge faces that night.

[anakha]

When was the last time when Cena was a heel

2003:

afelMFdxctE

[DJR210]

I hope Lesnar german suplexes this fool and accidently shoots him over the top rope and down onto his neck on the concrete, killing him instantly.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Last nights Raw was predictable. I try and start every Raw with a positive mindset but it regresses to disappointment. The talent is definitely there. Hell, NXT has some very likeable wrestlers with a smudge of personality to them. Whoever the fuck is directing creativity and the writing is putting this shit show out there on purpose at this point. You couldn't be this bad at creativity even if you tried.
There's no doubt that they're putting out a crap show on purpose. How else can you explain that one of the top 2 storylines in the WWE involves 2 annoying and horrible actresses, who have never gotten over in their entire careers, being in a feud and getting multiple 10+ minutes of promo time?

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Roman Reigns out for 4-6 weeks.

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/pro-wrestling/ring-posts-blog/bal-roman-reigns-undergoes-emergency-surgery-will-be-out-46-weeks-20140920,0,6654836.story

While I'm not a Reigns fan and feel that Reigns has no talent (in the ring or on the mic) and should not be getting a main event push, I never want someone to get injured so good luck to him on his recovery.

[anakha]

Devitt debuts on NXT:

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[DJR210]

What the fuck are these idiots doing. .fucking Kathy Lee and Hoda..smfh

[Trainwreck2100]

Rocky can still bring the goods though

[King Emmanuel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRj3N21JSow

:lmao omg

[manufan10]

What the fuck are these idiots doing. .fucking Kathy Lee and Hoda..smfh

That was a ridiculous segment. So horrible. Next week isn't going to be any better because apparently Todd Chrisley from Chrisley Knows Best and Nene Leakes from Real Housewives of Atlanta will have a guest spot on RAW. http://stillrealtous.com/another-guest-host-added-raw-next-week/


Rocky can still bring the goods though

I didn't mark out when The Rock's music first hit. I thought we were gonna get trolled. But man, he shitted all over the WWE roster, because there is no one that can even hold The Rock's jock strap in entertaining all of the fans.

[DJR210]

Raw was such a bad show on so many levels..the Torito vs Hornswaggle shit hasn't been even the slightest bit creative or funny, but these fucking morons find a way to recycle the failed idea through another sorry ass filler wrestler.

[manufan10]

^The best part of RAW has been Dean Ambrose.

[TE]

By default. This company is so laughable on many levels that I didn't even care to sit through another shit program. I saw on Twitter that Rock returned, thankfully I tuned in to see him shit on Rusev and show the rest of this no-talent roster how it's done.

Have you all checked out Ring of Honor? It's infinitely more entertaining and the wrestling is better.

[DJR210]

By default. This company is so laughable on many levels that I didn't even care to sit through another shit program. I saw on Twitter that Rock returned, thankfully I tuned in to see him shit on Rusev and show the rest of this no-talent roster how it's done.

Have you all checked out Ring of Honor? It's infinitely more entertaining and the wrestling is better.

Yeah, RoH is tight. I always forget to record their show though.

[Avante]

When I buy the WWE...

Brock Lesnar is a full time employee if he wants a job.

Triple H goes back to just another rassler or ....see ya!

God (John Cena) becomes the biggest heel ever.

Randy Orton becomes the biggest heel ever.....also.

Ziggler. Rollins, Reigns and Ambrose get major pushes.

Golddust goes back to Dustin Rhodes and Stardust returns to Cody.

I bring back Del Rio while saying good bye to Kane.

Shaemus stays himself.

I make CM Punk an offer he can't refuse while turning Daneil Bryan into a manager.

I dump the two goofs tagging along behind Bray Wyatt. Wyatt can stay.

I make Jericho make a decision, either rassler/rocker.

I bring in The Freak from TNA and make Baptista an over Hollywood can't match.

I dump all the girls, they are boring as fuck. I think, actually fast forward past it.

[hehateme]

When I buy the WWE...

Brock Lesnar is a full time employee if he wants a job. (set a precedent and pay him to much and everyone else will want it as well and kill the revenue stream, still sucks on the mic so he needs Heyman who will want more too)

Triple H goes back to just another rassler or ....see ya! (he runs NXT very well...his changes outside of NXT still go through vince for anything else and it shows)

God (John Cena) becomes the biggest heel ever. (if you turn him heel people will still hate him, plus you then lose your top merchandise pusher with kids. he basically just needs to stay out of the top spot for a year or more and put over new people)

Randy Orton becomes the biggest heel ever.....also. (hit his ceiling, insert Sandow and you got it)

Ziggler. Rollins, Reigns and Ambrose get major pushes. (no issue with this, need a future to start somewhere)

Golddust goes back to Dustin Rhodes and Stardust returns to Cody. (both are non relevant but Goldust is Dustin so no to this)

I bring back Del Rio while saying good bye to Kane. (most boring Mexican persona ever...I'd rather watch the midget bull, no comment on Kane since his mask schtick was burned)

Shaemus stays himself. (needs to go heel to be relevant again)

I make CM Punk an offer he can't refuse while turning Daneil Bryan into a manager. (sign Aries and you have Punk 2.0, and make Bryan a manager? You are fucking retarded)

I dump the two goofs tagging along behind Bray Wyatt. Wyatt can stay. (Another shit take, make these guys your tag champs bring up Ascension and sign the Dudleys/Hardy's. Form Mark/Big Show again as a team and make another stable with Kofi/Langston/Titus/Xavier and place Booker T as their face/manager. Form up two more lighter teams to give the division more stability and to feud with the Hardy's/Dudley's with extreme matches)

I make Jericho make a decision, either rassler/rocker. (doesn't want to wrestle full time, just sign him to a legends deal and be done with it)

I bring in The Freak from TNA and make Baptista an over Hollywood can't match. (need to sign more from TNA than that, they have the people to put over Smackdown as a better show, and Batista is no more...old and no one cares about him)

I dump all the girls, they are boring as fuck. I think, actually fast forward past it. (This part is true)

Hire a creative team with autonomous control over RAW story lines (no more re-writes by management). Give them a 1 year contract to improve ratings or they are fired. The show needs structure and that's where it fails now.

[DJR210]

When I buy the WWE...


Brock Lesnar is a full time employee if he wants a job. (set a precedent and pay him to much and everyone else will want it as well and kill the revenue stream, still sucks on the mic so he needs Heyman who will want more too) -

Or how about develop/introduce some stars so you don't have to rely on part timers to drive your business? Great moves make stars. Look at the push Cesaro gave himself just by having unique moves and rare strength at that size..Neville hits one aerial move and gets the loudest ovation of the night, instantly energizes the crowd.


Triple H goes back to just another rassler or ....see ya! (he runs NXT very well...his changes outside of NXT still go through vince for anything else and it shows)



Agreed. Triple H is progressive, and understands the importance of finding the top talent from all over the world. The WWE needs to really sell the fact that smaller guys are capable of being bad asses too, because the best wrestlers they have on "the bench" are all opposite of the Vince McMahon prototype top star.


God (John Cena) becomes the biggest heel ever. (if you turn him heel people will still hate him, plus you then lose your top merchandise pusher with kids. he basically just needs to stay out of the top spot for a year or more and put over new people)



"God"? Are you fucking serious? Cena is fucking trash. You probably wear the shirt, hat, and wristbands when you go to the event, huh faggot? Agreed, hehateme. As I mentioned about the need to develop stars, this is never gonna happen with Cena fagging up the main story lines with part timers, still challenging for the belt. His program with Wyatt really helped push Bray into the edges of the top tier, then creative completely fucked his momentum as they did Cesaro.


Randy Orton becomes the biggest heel ever.....also. (hit his ceiling, insert Sandow and you got it)



Randy Orton has the look, but his personality and boring ass moveset will never get him there, no matter how hard WWE tries. He may be a lot better in a more mature WWE with some more creative freedom to his heel character.


Ziggler. Rollins, Reigns and Ambrose get major pushes. (no issue with this, need a future to start somewhere)



Ziggler is a beast compared to some of the guys on the roster, but I think he's ruined by being Billy Gunn Jr. If they can modify his gimmick to less of a male stripper, and more of a tough guy, he would be great. The Fameasser has to go too, unless he starts doing it off the top rope.

Reigns is absolute garbage, he is the equivalent of Diva. Sign him because of his connections and his look first, teach him to wrestle second. No mic skills, a bunch of super lame moves like the supergay punch, and the worst spear even seen in the business. Him getting hurt is the best thing that ever happened to Ambrose. While I don't like him, has really found himself in a good position with the way he fits the mold of the loose cannon character, and he's actually a pretty convincing actor who's good on the mic.


Golddust goes back to Dustin Rhodes and Stardust returns to Cody. (both are non relevant but Goldust is Dustin so no to this)

Goldust is too fucking old to be looking at a repackage. His character needs to get phased out already. Cody could be great as himself if the WWE does put more focus on smaller guys becoming more believable as top stars.


I bring back Del Rio while saying good bye to Kane. (most boring Mexican persona ever...I'd rather watch the midget bull, no comment on Kane since his mask schtick was burned)



Del Rio is trash outside of Mexico, and with his backstage problems why bother?


Shaemus stays himself. (needs to go heel to be relevant again)



He's stuck as 1st hour filler. He will never be relevant w/o some type of story line. He literally comes out, gets a cheap pop from the fans who don't know shit, battles other wrestler stuck in the same position as him and hits his chest a few times for another cheap pop, rinse and repeat every show.


I make CM Punk an offer he can't refuse while turning Daneil Bryan into a manager. (sign Aries and you have Punk 2.0, and make Bryan a manager? You are fucking retarded)



:lol @ Bryan as a manager. CM Punk coming back is gonna be the same as bring back The Rock or a Brock Lesnar. He is burrned out and will have to re-commit, which doesn't seem likely considering his attorneys are testing the WWE's nuts over merchandise. Fuck CM Punk, bring in KENTA, you wouldn't even notice a difference with all the moves Punk stole from him.


I dump the two goofs tagging along behind Bray Wyatt. Wyatt can stay. (Another shit take, make these guys your tag champs bring up Ascension and sign the Dudleys/Hardy's. Form Mark/Big Show again as a team and make another stable with Kofi/Langston/Titus/Xavier and place Booker T as their face/manager. Form up two more lighter teams to give the division more stability and to feud with the Hardy's/Dudley's with extreme matches)



I agree with dumping Rowan. Not sure what he brings to the table. I've seen journalists raving over Harper's athleticism, so maybe he can become more involved. Again, he's older so not sure if it's even worth it.


I make Jericho make a decision, either rassler/rocker. (doesn't want to wrestle full time, just sign him to a legends deal and be done with it)



Jericho is done. He isn't the same character that he was 10 years ago, the crowd doesn't really give a fuck about him anymore. He needs to go.


I bring in The Freak from TNA and make Baptista an over Hollywood can't match. (need to sign more from TNA than that, they have the people to put over Smackdown as a better show, and Batista is no more...old and no one cares about him)



I hope they don't raid TNA, it's the only wrestling show I can actually sit and enjoy with my kid. TNA working w/ Japan's feds is tight too, maybe they can cross promote w/ RoH at some point.


I dump all the girls, they are boring as fuck. I think, actually fast forward past it. (This part is true)



Yes, the women's division is absolute garbage. Nattie and Naomi are the only ones worth a fuck. They want to be PG rated, so not sure why they need sex appeal out there anyway. Might as well hire a bunch of stocky lesbians who can go if they must have women represented as wrestlers on the show.


Hire a creative team with autonomous control over RAW story lines (no more re-writes by management). Give them a 1 year contract to improve ratings or they are fired. The show needs structure and that's where it fails now.

I think the key to an improvement for WWE is to continue to gradually make the program more adult friendly, and shift the focus from lame filler segments and focus more on the competition. A fucking simple handshake before a match went a long way for RoH, it's small shit like that goes a long way in grooming the typical stupid wrestling fan into appreciating more on the card. With the talent they are grooming in NXT, they can really step it up here soon. Raw being 3 hours obviously generates a shit ton more advertising dollars for them, but the length of the show clearly hurts them creatively. It's just so much filler, it really makes the show unwatchable at times. Extend the matches or get rid of the 3 hour show IMO.

[Avante]

Rookies sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roman Reigns is the future of the WWE and you can believe that. He has the look and that far out weighs actually ability as we've seen ever since Vince McMahon Jr. took over. If it were about avual ring ability Dolph Ziggler would rule, he's simply too small. Daneil Bryan was an oddity.

Why they continue to think everyone is some 14 year old kid....???? So many totally stupid angles/ideas. And it's getting worst. Yes I know their target audience is the kids because they are the ones who buy all their shit.

I do think a more realistic, harder edged pro wrestling associate/federation would work. More realistic angles, less total stupidity.

[DJR210]

I do think a more realistic, harder edged pro wrestling associate/federation would work. More realistic angles, less total stupidity.

It would work, but without a competitor they really have no reason to eliminate the children from the equation at this point. Last week's RAW was the lowest rated of the year, and you can see they are gradually adding a few more mature elements with some of the jokes and the cussing, but Vince vowed to never take the WWE back to the attitude era level so don't get too excited w/o a true competitor for ratings.

[Trainwreck2100]

Apparently they fired their ring announcer last night

[Avante]

It would work, but without a competitor they really have no reason to eliminate the children from the equation at this point. Last week's RAW was the lowest rated of the year, and you can see they are gradually adding a few more mature elements with some of the jokes and the cussing, but Vince vowed to never take the WWE back to the attitude era level so don't get too excited w/o a true competitor for ratings.

I'm just tired of having my intellgence disrespected by the WWE. You're right it is all about ratings.

How long before they bring in The Freak I wonder?

[DJR210]

I'm just tired of having my intellgence disrespected by the WWE. You're right it is all about ratings.

How long before they bring in The Freak I wonder?

They should bring in his broad with the big round ass instead.

[DJR210]

Apparently they fired their ring announcer last night

Why? I thought he was wrestling I'm NXT?

[Avante]

They should bring in his broad with the big round ass instead.

I don't watch it, I was just flicking stations and stumbled across it and noticed The Freak. Rob Terry is his real name I think.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Rumors has it that Sting will make his debut against Kane

[Trainwreck2100]

man fuck this company, seriously fuck this company

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Cena defeats Orton?

Cena vs Lesnar Part 4 coming up?

Man I didn't see that one coming. [sarcasm]

[anakha]

That finish to Ambrose-Rollins felt like a Scooby-Doo storyline.

[TheCultOfPersonality]

Randy Orton shining for the 2nd straight week. It's about time too.

Looks like the San Antonio fans love Cena just the way he is.

[Avante]

Hulk Hogan getting in shape to make a come back.....????

[TE]

Holy motherfuck Sting is back

[Girasuck]

Not gonna lie...I marked the fuck out.

[TE]

So did I tbh. It's been awhile since I've marked out like that. I'll be catching a recording of tonight's raw since I'll be busy tonight.

[manufan10]

I'm gonna have to watch Survivor Series sometime this week. I watched the Cowboys' game so I missed Sting's appearance. Was the PPV worth it before Sting showed up?

[TE]

I'm gonna have to watch Survivor Series sometime this week. I watched the Cowboys' game so I missed Sting's appearance. Was the PPV worth it before Sting showed up?
The mid card was meh. Ambrose and Wyatt's match was good. They finally gave Ziggler that major moment. The main criticism I have of the show was they tried building up the main event DURING the show. That's what Raw and to a lesser extent Smackdown are for. If this company spent less time on stupid corny gimmicks and more on entertaining us with quality schticks and wrestlers acting their own personality on screen rather than acting for the kids, we'd have a better overall product. I caught the last hour or so of Raw. Holy fuck does this company like to shoot itself.

[jeebus]

My nigga sting made a comeback? Shit nigga, I remember when he was there when Hogan joined the NWO, when he was backstabbed by the entire fucking universe, when he'd show up in the black and white paint with the bat to rape everything, when he wouldn't say a gotdamn word for a year, when he won the belt....shiiiiit.

Oh well.

[djohn2oo8]

My nigga sting made a comeback? Shit nigga, I remember when he was there when Hogan joined the NWO, when he was backstabbed by the entire fucking universe, when he'd show up in the black and white paint with the bat to rape everything, when he wouldn't say a gotdamn word for a year, when he won the belt....shiiiiit.

Oh well.

Myy nigga. I was a kid then and ordered a birthday cake with Sting on it, that motherfucker ended up looking like Predator with the dreadlocks

[djohn2oo8]

Still can't believe Sting showed up in WWE. I thought he hated the McMahons.

[jeebus]

Myy nigga. I was a kid then and ordered a birthday cake with Sting on it, that motherfucker ended up looking like Predator with the dreadlocks
:lol I was in middle/high school when he was doing his thing. I had the NWO shirt, mask...I wanted a black trench coat but that didn't happen, thanks to the heroes who shot up Columbine


Still can't believe Sting showed up in WWE. I thought he hated the McMahons.

Eh, maybe he wants to retire soon. It's a good money maker if he does it for a bit.

[anakha]

Sting has stated publicly that he's looking for one more big match before he retires.

Before Survivor Series, people were predicting a WM match with Undertaker. Now, HHH at WM is another possibility.

[djohn2oo8]

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Good times

[jeebus]

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Good times

sons the NWO was the best faction. shit was the peak when it was on. after it kinda died and WCW started swirling the toilet, that's when I stopped watching. I haven't watched a full episode of wrestling in almost 15 years



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MROMXNWVhXk


:lol Randy Savage getting his ass kicked by them so many times he joined them
:lol Buff Bagwell becoming an escort
:lol http://www.cowboys4angels.com/cowboy/marcus-bagwell/

[lefty]

:lol WWE
:lol fakeball

[anakha]

zxHRJnZsinQ

CM Punk drops a metric fuckton of truth bombs about why he left. Holy shit.

[DJR210]

Holy motherfuck Sting is back

Man.. about 10 years too late.. He looks like absolute shit.


zxHRJnZsinQ

CM Punk drops a metric fuckton of truth bombs about why he left. Holy shit.

Vince should go full on Attitude Era and make a CM Punk mockery vignette..hell, bring back the Nacho Man, Huckster, Billionaire Ted..

[DJR210]

Lot's of questions surrounding the decisions of the creative team lately..

1. Why the hell would they spend weeks hyping up The New Day, to have them get easily defeated by some makeshift team that has never paired together? Kofi Kingston is legit talent, and although I don't care for Big E or Xavier Woods, if they spent some time working on some cool double/triple team moves, they could legitimately strengthen the division..

2. Why the hell did Sting even intervene at Survivor Series? What was his reason?

3. Why the hell are the Big Show, Luke Harper, and Rusev even alligned with Team Authority? It's too random and doesn't make sense..

4. Why the fuck would the WWE strap their main title to a guy that appears twice a year at most?

5. Are the WWE writers that out of ideas that they had to bring back the shitty anonymous GM shtick that they are well aware is a failed idea at the jump? (hence Cena clowning it on Raw)

6. What's up with the lesbian storyline in the women's division now? The WWE is leading me (and my kid) to believe that AJ Lee, Paige, Rosa, and now Brie Bella are all lesbos now. I'm all for it, but commit to the type of content you want to deliver. Is this what I watch with my kid, or do I DVR it and watch when he's asleep?

7. So Erick Rowan gets a gimmick, he's a genius and hates bullies. What the fuck is Luke Harper's deal?

8. Why in the fuck would I want to be caught watching a program that features some idiot in a bunny suit wrestling regularly on all three programs? It's embarrassing. Midget bulls, Bunnies, Grumpy Cats, Alligators, Kathy Lee and Hoda acting a fool.. what...the...fuck???

9. Why does WWE insist on building up characters to bury them as jokes a month later? The only success WWE has had in the last year or so in developing legitimate stick around talent has been Rusev, and now Bray Wyatt if he continues down his current path. Rusev gets legit heat, his promos are believable, and Lana is a hot piece of ass who knows how to annoy the shit out of a crowd.

On the other hand you get these corny ass characters that are doomed from the jump. Who in their right mind in creative pictures these characters as ones that will last more than a couple months?

Bo Dallas - Complete joke at this point. His streak is over, his gimmick isn't progressing anymore..he's the new Santino. They call up this queer instead of Zayn or Neville? Smh

The New Day - Hyped for weeks only to look weak on Raw. They didn't have to win, but should have been allowed to look more impressive IMO. They're destined black comedy act, and will be disbanded and off TV in a month. Might as well be 3MB.

Adam Rose and his band of faggots - stupid ass gimmick, waste of time building this guy in the first place.

[Trainwreck2100]

Lot's of questions surrounding the decisions of the creative team lately..

1. Why the hell would they spend weeks hyping up The New Day, to have them get easily defeated by some makeshift team that has never paired together? Kofi Kingston is legit talent, and although I don't care for Big E or Xavier Woods, if they spent some time working on some cool double/triple team moves, they could legitimately strengthen the division..

2. Why the hell did Sting even intervene at Survivor Series? What was his reason?

3. Why the hell are the Big Show, Luke Harper, and Rusev even alligned with Team Authority? It's too random and doesn't make sense..

4. Why the fuck would the WWE strap their main title to a guy that appears twice a year at most?

5. Are the WWE writers that out of ideas that they had to bring back the shitty anonymous GM shtick that they are well aware is a failed idea at the jump? (hence Cena clowning it on Raw)

6. What's up with the lesbian storyline in the women's division now? The WWE is leading me (and my kid) to believe that AJ Lee, Paige, Rosa, and now Brie Bella are all lesbos now. I'm all for it, but commit to the type of content you want to deliver. Is this what I watch with my kid, or do I DVR it and watch when he's asleep?

7. So Erick Rowan gets a gimmick, he's a genius and hates bullies. What the fuck is Luke Harper's deal?

8. Why in the fuck would I want to be caught watching a program that features some idiot in a bunny suit wrestling regularly on all three programs? It's embarrassing. Midget bulls, Bunnies, Grumpy Cats, Alligators, Kathy Lee and Hoda acting a fool.. what...the...fuck???

9. Why does WWE insist on building up characters to bury them as jokes a month later? The only success WWE has had in the last year or so in developing legitimate stick around talent has been Rusev, and now Bray Wyatt if he continues down his current path. Rusev gets legit heat, his promos are believable, and Lana is a hot piece of ass who knows how to annoy the shit out of a crowd.

On the other hand you get these corny ass characters that are doomed from the jump. Who in their right mind in creative pictures these characters as ones that will last more than a couple months?

Bo Dallas - Complete joke at this point. His streak is over, his gimmick isn't progressing anymore..he's the new Santino. They call up this queer instead of Zayn or Neville? Smh

The New Day - Hyped for weeks only to look weak on Raw. They didn't have to win, but should have been allowed to look more impressive IMO. They're destined black comedy act, and will be disbanded and off TV in a month. Might as well be 3MB.

Adam Rose and his band of faggots - stupid ass gimmick, waste of time building this guy in the first place.
New day was originally supposed to be a heel team so I assume that's where they're headed. If they get 3mb'd that would be a shame. Apparently Vince is the one who likes the bunny. If you heard vince' podcast with stone cold. Assuming he wasn't kayfabing he's fucking out of touch. Dude was hating on cesaro, he had the theme, catchphrase nd move (the swing) and wwe took them all away

[DJR210]

New day was originally supposed to be a heel team so I assume that's where they're headed. If they get 3mb'd that would be a shame. Apparently Vince is the one who likes the bunny. If you heard vince' podcast with stone cold. Assuming he wasn't kayfabing he's fucking out of touch. Dude was hating on cesaro, he had the theme, catchphrase nd move (the swing) and wwe took them all away

Yeah, Vince is the reason for all the lame shit..midgets, gators, bunnies..his sense of humor is unfunny to 98% of his viewers..my 7 year old thinks it's stupid too.

And yeah, I heard him hating. Says Cesaro and his entire roster have no ambition. Vince wants someone to rise up and tell him he's a moron, and demand creative control over their own character apparently..

[manufan10]

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/1545984_877296718968408_5490308009404978840_n.jpg? oh=3e39d08e3cb0493ae067515c78e21e42&oe=550359C2

:lol

[DJR210]

Just came to say..

:lol Ascension

What a shitty, underwhelming debut. Two minute match against two guys who can't sell for shit. The Fall of Man looked slow and weak.

I don't understand why they wouldn't have them squash a tag team that the crowd doesn't like, the crowd loves Mizdow and it really didn't draw any pop from the crowd. A tag team should have came and drew some heat from the crowd, only to have The Ascension save the day and whoop their ass.

We'll see how they bounce back.

[Avante]

They stripped Daneil Bryan because they needed a battling champion. Enter...Brock Lesnar..???????????

Talk about stupid even for pro rasslin'.

CM Punk is going to get killed in the real fighting world.

[DJR210]

They stripped Daneil Bryan because they needed a battling champion. Enter...Brock Lesnar..???????????

Talk about stupid even for pro rasslin'.

CM Punk is going to get killed in the real fighting world.

Brock Lesnar is an awesome champion..it's the contract that's the problem. Plus, don't forget Fag Cena had the title for a while there too.

[Girasuck]

Ahhh...I remember the good ole days when a champion had to defend his title within 30 days. When closed fists and throwing your opponent over the top rope were illegal. When promo's weren't scripted. When women actually had storylines.

[DJR210]

Ahhh...I remember the good ole days when a champion had to defend his title within 30 days. When closed fists and throwing your opponent over the top rope were illegal. When promo's weren't scripted. When women actually had storylines.


No, the women still have 2 storylines..lesbians or marital issues.

[Thread]

Ahhh...I remember the good ole days when a champion had to defend his title within 30 days. When closed fists and throwing your opponent over the top rope were illegal. When promo's weren't scripted. When women actually had storylines.

Or when you beat on somebody so badly that it actually empowered them.

[Blizzardwizard]

I remember when gimmicky and silly characters were actually cool, like Dude Love. Now there's just Santino Marella and Hornswoggle who make you feel down right embarrassed about watching the show when anyone's around.

[TE]

Just came to say..

:lol Ascension

What a shitty, underwhelming debut. Two minute match against two guys who can't sell for shit. The Fall of Man looked slow and weak.

I don't understand why they wouldn't have them squash a tag team that the crowd doesn't like, the crowd loves Mizdow and it really didn't draw any pop from the crowd. A tag team should have came and drew some heat from the crowd, only to have The Ascension save the day and whoop their ass.

We'll see how they bounce back.
That was a terrible match. Not only did they bury a decent (and one that gets a good pop) tag team in Mizdow, the crowd was so dead for all the hype of that debut. It was embarrassing to see. The crowd for the better part of this year has been dead.

They stripped Daneil Bryan because they needed a battling champion. Enter...Brock Lesnar..???????????

Talk about stupid even for pro rasslin'.

CM Punk is going to get killed in the real fighting world.
If the WWE is out in less than 10 years you can point to this as the shove. They completey fucked up by giving Brock the title. Not only did that do them in, they also minimized the importance of the midcard titles. Many point to this being Vince's fault and I couldn't agree more. He downright buried arguably the best in-ring talent that hasn't been given a push yet in Cesaro live for the world to see. If that podcast doesn't tell you everything about the state of the company, I don't know what does.

Brock Lesnar is an awesome champion..it's the contract that's the problem. Plus, don't forget Fag Cena had the title for a while there too.
I disagree. A champion has to show up every now and then. He was literally out for months. The fucking main event for the last three ppv's have included a number one contender status for the WHC. From a once proud company in the WWE, that's so embarrassing of a thought that I can't believe it's actually a reality.

Ahhh...I remember the good ole days when a champion had to defend his title within 30 days. When closed fists and throwing your opponent over the top rope were illegal. When promo's weren't scripted. When women actually had storylines.
Exactly.

I remember when gimmicky and silly characters were actually cool, like Dude Love. Now there's just Santino Marella and Hornswoggle who make you feel down right embarrassed about watching the show when anyone's around.
Santino doesn't appear anymore (thank god) and they killed Hornswoggle's weekly appearance on Raw years ago. Needless to say on the latter, they have a midget tag team who fights the embarrassing specimen's known as the Uso's and Gold/Stardust...so there hasn't been much a dropoff there.

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Also, Roman Reigns being handpicked as the man to lead the company will contribute to the decline. He's just so fucking stale, it's like watching paint dry. Daniel Bryan got one of the strongest pops of the year in this past week's segment, he should be the one to dethrone Lesnar. Seth Rollins is a corny heel who has gotten better at the role. This past week he entered psychopathic status with that one line. Regardless, he's still a crappy heel if you consider the most recent heel's of yesteryear...

The mainevent for Wrestlemania should have Daniel Bryan beat Lesnar. Lesnar is leaving the company, the crowd knows and will give him shit for it. It's best to have someone who isn't a part-timer (Daniel Bryan will slowly get back into the weekly storyline) who gets the best pop. I'd have Dolph Ziggler as next up...he's missing something though. Maybe it's a signature win against somebody noteworthy.

The Diva's division is dead.

They have let Rusev's momentum die a slow death even though his schtick has been used countless times in this industry.

This road to wrestlemania will determine the longevity of this company. If it's a successful RTW, they will buy themselves more time to find a different creative team.

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&&& 1000 post in this thread...fuck you all

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Santino doesn't appear anymore (thank god) and they killed Hornswoggle's weekly appearance on Raw years ago. Needless to say on the latter, they have a midget tag team who fights the embarrassing specimen's known as the Uso's and Gold/Stardust...so there hasn't been much a dropoff there.

I think the only good think involving Santino is when he got hosed with Budweiser by Stone Cold. I was considering starting to watch RAW again but that 'midget tag team' thing has turned me away :lol