States With Most Gun Laws Have Fewest Gun Deaths

[TheSanityAnnex]

Considering the overall gun death rate is about 1/4 that of the US, pretty well I guess.



Visible minority population in Canada, 1996–2011 censuses


Group
1996[22] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#cite_note-1996censusAboriginal-23)[42] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#cite_note-1996censusVisibles-43)
2001[23] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#cite_note-2001censusprofile-24)
2006[24] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#cite_note-2006_Canada_Census_Profile-25)
2011[25] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Canada#cite_note-2011NHSprofile-26)


%
Total
%
Total
%
Total
%
Total


White (European Canadian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Canadian))
86.0%
24,531,640
83.3%
24,678,880
80.0%
25,000,150
76.7%
25,186,890


Aboriginal (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aboriginal_peoples_in_Canada)
2.8%
799,005
3.3%
976,305
3.8%
1,172,785
4.3%
1,400,685


Total visible minority
11.2%
3,197,480
13.4%
3,983,845
16.2%
5,068,095
19.1%
6,264,750


East Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asia)
3.5%
989,680
4.1%
1,203,370
4.6%
1,439,755
4.8%
1,573,150


South Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Asian_Canadian)
2.4%
670,590
3.1%
917,075
4.0%
1,262,865
4.8%
1,567,400


Black (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Canadian)
2.0%
573,860
2.2%
662,215
2.5%
783,795
2.9%
945,665


Southeast Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southeast_Asia)
1.4%
406,960
1.7%
507,445
2.1%
650,630
2.8%
931,385


West Asian (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Asia) & Arab (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_Canadian)
0.9%
244,665
1.0%
303,970
1.4%
422,250
1.8%
586,460


Latin American (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latin_American_Canadian)
0.6%
176,970
0.7%
216,980
1.0%
304,245
1.2%
381,280


Multiracial (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiracial)
0.2%
61,575
0.2%
73,875
0.4%
133,120
0.5%
171,935


Other
0.2%
69,745
0.3%
98,915
0.2%
71,420
0.3%
106,475

[ChumpDumper]

Why did you change the subject?

You were talking about gun violence and Canadian gun laws.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why did you change the subject?

You were talking about gun violence and Canadian gun laws.
Zehaf-Bibeau was banned from owning firearms. What new law could have stopped him?

[ChumpDumper]

Zehaf-Bibeau was banned from owning firearms. What new law could have stopped him?What new law is anyone proposing in Canada because of this?

[ChumpDumper]

So TSA's talking point du jour seems to be if gun laws do not result in zero gun homicide outcomes they are completely worthless.

I disagree.

[TheSanityAnnex]

What new law is anyone proposing in Canada because of this?
None. You can't get any more strict than a complete ban on an individual.

[boutons_deux]

Montana man shoots and kills 3-year-old while playing game of ‘gun tag’

ontana man is facing up to 20 years in prison after shooting and killing a 3-year-old boy while playing a game of ‘gun tag’.

NBC Montana (http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/bail-set-at-100k-for-suspect-in-childs-death/29319198) reports that Galen Hawk was charged on Friday with negligent homicide after killing Lonato Moran-Allen on Wednesday night. Bail has been set at $100,000.
According to court documents, Moran-Allen was pretending to shoot Hawk with a toy gun as he ran away inside of a Ninepipes-area home. Hawk reportedly pointed his handgun at Moran-Allen in response and the gun went off killing the boy.

According to Hawk, he didn’t think his gun was loaded and that he and the boy had only been “playing.” Hawk told investigators that he had spent the evening drinking whiskey and alcoholic lemonade prior to the shooting.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/montana-man-shoots-and-kills-3-year-old-while-playing-game-of-gun-tag/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

gun fellators think even the mentally deficient should have unregulated access to guns.

[TheSanityAnnex]

So TSA's talking point du jour seems to be if gun laws do not result in zero gun homicide outcomes they are completely worthless.

I disagree.
My point is criminals do not follow the law.

I am in support of most gun laws, even if they do not prevent gun crime as seen in Canada. I do not support gun laws such as bullet buttons, magazine limits, full auto bans, 10 day wait periods, may issue ccw etc. These laws only affect the law abiding citizen and do nothing to deter criminals.

As a country we need to focus on why the crime is committed, and less on the tool used.

[boutons_deux]

TSA "real" point is that now that the gun industry and its sales/propaganda/lying divisions of NRA, GOA, gun dealers, etc have SUCCEEDED in selling the country 300M+ guns for profit, the guns are so easy to get by everybody, that gun regulation, registration is NOW pointless.

[Slutter McGee]

Montana man shoots and kills 3-year-old while playing game of ‘gun tag’

ontana man is facing up to 20 years in prison after shooting and killing a 3-year-old boy while playing a game of ‘gun tag’.

NBC Montana (http://www.nbcmontana.com/news/bail-set-at-100k-for-suspect-in-childs-death/29319198) reports that Galen Hawk was charged on Friday with negligent homicide after killing Lonato Moran-Allen on Wednesday night. Bail has been set at $100,000.
According to court documents, Moran-Allen was pretending to shoot Hawk with a toy gun as he ran away inside of a Ninepipes-area home. Hawk reportedly pointed his handgun at Moran-Allen in response and the gun went off killing the boy.

According to Hawk, he didn’t think his gun was loaded and that he and the boy had only been “playing.” Hawk told investigators that he had spent the evening drinking whiskey and alcoholic lemonade prior to the shooting.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/montana-man-shoots-and-kills-3-year-old-while-playing-game-of-gun-tag/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

gun fellators think even the mentally deficient should have unregulated access to guns.




See, this is what liberal fucktards don't understand. We have a constitutional to carry around guns. You liberals fucks should deal with it. Hunter S. Thompson did...and he fuckin loved it.

[boutons_deux]

See, this is what liberal fucktards don't understand. We have a constitutional to carry around guns. You liberals fucks should deal with it. Hunter S. Thompson did...and he fuckin loved it.

concealed carry and open carry are REGULATED by the states, not by the Constitution.

[TheSanityAnnex]

TSA "real" point is that now that the gun industry and its sales/propaganda/lying divisions of NRA, GOA, gun dealers, etc have SUCCEEDED in selling the country 300M+ guns for profit, the guns are so easy to get by everybody, that gun regulation, registration is NOW pointless.
Why is it so hard for you to admit there is a serious problem within a culture?

[TheSanityAnnex]

concealed carry and open carry are REGULATED by the states, not by the Constitution.
Yes and no. The "constitution" has recently over turned many state rulings on both concealed and open carry, all in favor of gun owners. All your bitching, whining, and spamming on Spurstalk did nothing. How does that make you feel?

[ChumpDumper]

My point is criminals do not follow the law.

I am in support of most gun laws, even if they do not prevent gun crime as seen in Canada. I do not support gun laws such as bullet buttons, magazine limits, full auto bans, 10 day wait periods, may issue ccw etc. These laws only affect the law abiding citizen and do nothing to deter criminals.

As a country we need to focus on why the crime is committed, and less on the tool used.Well, since you brought up the subject, why do you think the firearm death rate is four times higher in the US than in Canada?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Well, since you brought up the subject, why do you think the firearm death rate is four times higher in the US than in Canada?
You can't change the subject after asking the same only to change back. And I've already answered your question tbh. Pick which direction you want to go

[ChumpDumper]

You can't change the subject after asking the same only to change back. And I've already answered your question tbh. Pick which direction you want to goYou went in the direction of Canada.

Why do you think the firearm death rate is four times higher in the US than in Canada? Charts without no context do nothing.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You went in the direction of Canada.

Why do you think the firearm death rate is four times higher in the US than in Canada? Charts without no context do nothing.I do not believe it is because of strict gun laws as they have a considerably high rate of ownership.

[ChumpDumper]

I do not believe it is because of strict gun laws as they have a considerably high rate of ownership.About one third the guns, but one fourth the gun related deaths of the US.

What do you believe it is then?

[TheSanityAnnex]

About one third the guns, but one fourth the gun related deaths of the US.

What do you believe it is then?
Race demographics and culture

[ChumpDumper]

Race demographics and cultureSo why does Wyoming have such a high gun death rate compare to the US on the whole?

Too many white people living in that corrosive white culture?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

So why does Wyoming have such a high gun death rate compare to the US on the whole?

Too many white people living in that corrosive white culture?

Hold on he is googling and checking is RSS.

[SupremeGuy]

If the implication is more guns = more gun deaths and vice versa, then why aren't there constant gun deaths outside of gun shops, at gun shows, and at gun ranges?

[ChumpDumper]

If the implication is more guns = more gun deaths and vice versa, then why aren't there constant gun deaths outside of gun shops, at gun shows, and at gun ranges?What reason would people have to kill people with guns at those places?

[SupremeGuy]

What reason would people have to kill people with guns at those places?The op is making the implication in the title, not me.

[ChumpDumper]

The op is making the implication in the title, not me.Not necessarily. Most gun laws <> fewest guns.

[boutons_deux]

A Bad Western: There Have Been 87 School Shootings Since Newtown

http://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/media/guns.jpg?itok=U9TawCZY

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2014/10/26/bad-western-there-have-been-87-school-shootings-newtown

toxic, sick gun fellators

[TheSanityAnnex]

So why does Wyoming have such a high gun death rate compare to the US on the whole?

Too many white people living in that corrosive white culture?

Because suicides are included in the stats you are referring to. Remove suicides and Wyoming has one of the lowest gun murder rates in the entire country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/gun-deaths/

[ChumpDumper]

Because suicides are included in the stats you are referring to. Remove suicides and Wyoming has one of the lowest gun murder rates in the entire country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/gun-deaths/So The lilywhite culture up there make gun owners kill themselves.

OK.

[TheSanityAnnex]

A Bad Western: There Have Been 87 School Shootings Since Newtown

http://www.commondreams.org/sites/default/files/styles/full_width/public/media/guns.jpg?itok=U9TawCZY

http://www.commondreams.org/further/2014/10/26/bad-western-there-have-been-87-school-shootings-newtown

toxic, sick gun fellators


The infamous everytown.org numbers have already been debunked.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/13/everytown-gun-safety/have-there-been-74-school-shootings-sandy-hook-clo/

After an Oregon high school freshman armed with an assault rifle injured a teacher, killed a student and killed himself Tuesday, (http://www.katu.com/news/local/Police-15-year-old-Reynolds-HS-shooter-was-armed-with-assault-rifle-262754061.html) a striking statistic began circulating on the internet. It said that at least 74 school shootings (http://everytown.org/article/schoolshootings/) had occurred since December 2012, when an assault on Sandy Hook Elementary School by Adam Lanza left 28 dead, including Lanza and his mother.
The statistic came from Everytown for Gun Safety, an advocacy group founded by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and gun-control advocate Shannon Watts. That comes out to more than one school shooting per week.
Numerous media outlets reported the 74 school shootings figure, and the number spread widely in Facebook posts and through other forms of social media. Even President Barack Obama brought up the once-a-week line in an interview with Tumblr CEO David Karp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgWbEOPZuV4#t=14).
In the interview, Obama discussed his frustration with lawmakers’ inaction on gun control legislation, particularly in the wake of Sandy Hook. While it’s not clear that Obama was specifically referencing the statistic compiled by Everytown, his comment was in line with their math. "We’re the only developed country on Earth where this happens," he said,
"and it happens now once a week."
But as widely as the number spread, it also attracted criticism (http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/). Charles Johnson, who writes for the conservative Daily Caller (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/10/wow-journalist-attempts-to-debunk-anti-gun-groups-list-of-school-shootings-in-america-since-sandy-hook-heres-what-he-found/#), garnered attention for what he considered a debunking of the Everytown list.
We decided to sift through the numbers ourselves.
How Everytown counted 74 incidents
To its credit, Everytown provided details on each of the 74 shootings, including the date, city and school location. The group also clearly laid out its methodology at the bottom of the list. These make it possible for the critics -- and us -- to look under the hood at its calculations.
The main reason for the criticism of Everytown’s count is that its definition of "school shooting" is relatively broad. The group’s criteria goes beyond what many people would consider "school shootings" -- incidents in which a student or an intruder enters a school and fires at innocent students and staff. For many people, this is the first thing that comes to mind when they hear the phrase "school shooting" -- an incident such as Sandy Hook or, before it, the 1999 Columbine shooting in Colorado that left 15 dead, including the shooters.
Here’s the methodology as explained by the group at the bottom of the list:
Incidents were classified as school shootings when a firearm was discharged inside a school building or on school or campus grounds, as documented in publicly reported news accounts. This includes assaults, homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings. Incidents in which guns were brought into schools but not fired there, or were fired off school grounds after having been possessed in schools, were not included.... Incidents were identified through media reports, so this is likely an undercount of the true total.
This definition allows for incidents that don’t typically call to mind the term "school shooting" -- for example, a case in which a man unaffiliated with Alogna High/Middle School (http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2013/11/01/algona-schools-close-friday-after-police-find-body-on-school-property/article?nclick_check=1) in Iowa killed himself in the school’s parking lot in the middle of the night, or an early-morning armed robbery (http://www.wisn.com/news/breaking-marquette-student-shot-during-campus-robbery/25770492#!X0qcu) on a street that goes through the Marquette University campus in Wisconsin. Both count in Everytown’s tally.
Clearly it is difficult to draw lines. The Everytown list did not include the recent and highly publicized shooting spree in Isla Vista, Calif. In that case (http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/us/santa-barbara-isla-vista-shooting-profile/), the shooter was a student at the University of California at Santa Barbara, and he targeted other students, including women living in a sorority house near the campus. Seven people died, but the shooting wasn’t technically on campus, so it didn’t make the list.
Our Breakdown
We reviewed news reports for all 74 shootings and did our best to sort them into five categories. Here’s our breakdown. (See individual shootings by category here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLMoWLXcEwlFuodQjLsx9Mk0VguSzZmxHuUSBNkf6bQ/pub), with clickable links to news reports on each shooting.)
• Incidents such as Sandy Hook or Columbine in which the shooter intended to commit mass murder: 10 instances
• Incidents related to criminal activity (such as drug dealing or robbery), or personal altercations: 39 instances
• Incidents unconnected to members of school community and/or that took place outside school hours: 16 instances
• Suicides: 6 instances
• Accidental discharges: 3 instances
In all, these 74 incidents resulted in 38 deaths and 53 injuries. The biggest death toll in one incident was a shooting spree that ended at Santa Monica College. Six people died, though not all of them took place on the campus.
While the list includes a lot of gunfire, deaths and injuries, only about 14 percent were shootings that mirrored Columbine and Sandy Hook.
In addition, almost half -- 35 -- occurred at a college or university rather than a K-12 school. This clashes with the imagery invoked by the line in the chart’s introduction, that "we should feel secure in sending our children to school — comforted by the knowledge that they’re safe."
We asked James Fox, a criminology professor at Northeastern University, for some perspective. He pointed to the 2013 "Indicators of School Crime and Safety" report (http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2014/2014042.pdf) compiled by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. There were about 45 school-associated violent deaths (not just by guns) at elementary and secondary schools each year between the 1992 and 2010 school years, according to the report. The highest annual total was 63 deaths in 2006-07, while the lowest was 31 in 2010-11.
In other words, Fox said, the number of gun deaths documented by Everytown over the past year and a half are not out of the ordinary. About 15 to 20 kids in grades K-12 are killed at school each year, along with a similar number of college students, he said.
Is it misleading?
The experts we consulted agreed that Everytown’s broad definition of "school shooting" could be misleading, encouraging them to assume that there have been 74 incidents similar to Columbine or Sandy Hook.
While the Everytown definition is certainly one way of calculating it, there is such a range of motivations, degrees of planning and outcomes that it ceases to be an especially useful measurement, said Jay Corzine, a University of Central Florida sociology professor.
Mark Safarik, president of Forensic Behavioral Services Inc. and a former member of the FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit, agreed that when the average person thinks of a school shooting, they think of a mass murder like Sandy Hook.
"There is an ocean of difference between Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech and Columbine and a depressed student who (commits suicide) at school, or an accidental discharge," Safarik said. "To call them all school shootings may be true in a technical sense but is quite disingenuous on an emotional level, which is where they are trying to capture for their audience."
Everytown has countered the media criticism by arguing that focusing too closely on Sandy Hook-like incidents unfairly diminishes the full extent of the dangers to students and staff posed by guns in or near schools.
"The country's gun-violence epidemic has seeped into our children's schools, and that is a problem, regardless of the body count," said spokeswoman Erika Lamb. "Those lives count, too, even if the media is only focused on mass tragedies."
Corzine prefers the designation used by the New York Police Department, among others -- "active shooter," which limits the list to incidents that occur during school hours, involving a firearm discharged with the intent to kill or injure others on school grounds or while in transit on a school vehicle.
In addition, Fox said the statistic is misleading for another reason -- it focuses on short-term patterns, rather than long-term trends. Despite the media focus, Fox said, it’s worth noting that the number of school-related homicides has remained relatively flat for two decades, he said.
"I don't mean to minimize the horror of these events or the pain and suffering of victims, but schools are safe, safer than other places that our children spend time," he said. "For some kids, school is even safer than their home."
Corzine said he sees some value in Everytown’s calculations -- but also pitfalls.
On the one hand, "they are a valid indicator of the ease with which firearms enter the school environment in the United States compared to other highly developed nations." By the same token, though, "it is misleading to use the 74 school shootings in a context that explicitly or implicitly equates them with Sandy Hook."
Our ruling
A statistic calculated by Everytown for Gun Safety, and shared widely on social media, said that there have been 74 "school shootings in America since Sandy Hook."
The group’s figure is accurate only if you use a broad definition of "school shooting" that includes such incidents as suicides, accidents and spillover from adjacent criminal activity. The figure has some value in quantifying the proximity of guns to school campuses, but the group makes a significant stretch by tying the statistic so closely to the mass shooting at Sandy Hook. By doing this, the group closely associates the statistic with planned mass shootings targeting students and school staff -- a category that, using a more strict definition, accounts for only 10 of the 74 incidents.
The statement contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. We rate it Mostly False.

[SupremeGuy]

Because suicides are included in the stats you are referring to. Remove suicides and Wyoming has one of the lowest gun murder rates in the entire country.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/national/gun-deaths/Damn, you bent his argument over. lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

So The lilywhite culture up there make gun owners kill themselves.

OK.

Guess so.

So Wyoming has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the country and one of the lowest gun murder rates in the country. Why did you even bring up Wyoming?

[SupremeGuy]

Not necessarily. Most gun laws <> fewest guns.You're joking right? :lol

You are seriously not trying to imply that more gun laws = more guns, right?

[SupremeGuy]

Guess so.

So Wyoming has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the country and one of the lowest gun murder rates in the country. Why did you even bring up Wyoming?Because White people :cry

[ChumpDumper]

Guess so.

So Wyoming has one of the highest gun ownership rates in the country and one of the lowest gun murder rates in the country. Why did you even bring up Wyoming?Gun deaths included suicides.

What the hell is wrong with the culture of white gun owners that make them kill themselves?

[ChumpDumper]

You're joking right? :lol

You are seriously not trying to imply that more gun laws = more guns, right?i think the US probably has more gun laws on the whole than most countries, but the US has by far the most guns.

Here's an extreme example. Say a country had one gun law: no guns allowed. How many legal guns would that country have?

[SupremeGuy]

Wow, you're really grasping at straws. lol You're having to use extreme and improbably examples to justify your beliefs.

[ChumpDumper]

Wow, you're really grasping at straws. lol You're having to use extreme and improbably examples to justify your beliefs.I said it was an extreme example. And I just said it wasn't necessarily true, not that the opposite was definitely true. One would have to add up all the laws and compare them to all the guns in a state to say anything definitively.

Have you done that?

[SupremeGuy]

The purpose of most if not all gun laws is to limit the amount of guns in an area, but you're trying to tell me that gun laws promote gun acquirement and result in more guns finding their way into said area? What is this? I don't even.

[ChumpDumper]

The purpose of most if not all gun laws is to limit the amount of guns in the area, but you're trying to tell me that gun laws promote gun acquirement and result in more guns finding their way into said area? What is this? I don't even.I am not saying that. I just explained it. What part of it do you not understand?

[SupremeGuy]

I am not saying that. I just explained it. What part of it do you not understand?


Not necessarily. Most gun laws <> fewest guns.Now you're just contradicting yourself.

[ChumpDumper]

Now you're just contradicting yourself.No, you just don't understand.

A law allowing concealed carry is a gun law. Does that law discourage gun ownership?

[SupremeGuy]

I'll ask you again, if:

less gun laws = more guns = more gun deaths

Then:

Why aren't there a ton of gun deaths at gun ranges, gun shows, and gun shops?

[boutons_deux]

I'll ask you again, if:

less gun laws = more guns = more gun deaths

Then:

Why aren't there a ton of gun deaths at gun ranges, gun shows, and gun shops?

:lol there are gun accidents at all three :lol

and also accidents BY INSTRUCTORS in gun training classrooms :lol

... and those are The Good Guys! :lol

more guns = more guns injuries, deaths.

[ChumpDumper]

I'll ask you again, if:

less gun laws = more guns = more gun deaths

Then:

Why aren't there a ton of gun deaths at gun ranges, gun shows, and gun shops?The former is not necessarily true in the first place, which was my point that you still don't understand. So there can't be any logical connection to the latter.

[SupremeGuy]

The former is not necessarily true in the first place, which was my point that you still don't understand. So there can't be any logical connection to the latter.But that's the implication that the op is making... what don't you understand?

[SupremeGuy]

:lol there are gun accidents at all three :lol

and also accidents BY INSTRUCTORS in gun training classrooms :lol

... and those are The Good Guys! :lol

more guns = more guns injuries, deaths.See? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

But that's the implication that the op is making... what don't you understand?The OP title is not necessarily true either. I gave an example of how one law would = no guns. News outlets have made the distinction of saying those states have "stronger" gun laws instead of just noting the number of gun related laws, which I don't think was totaled by anyone.

Do you understand now?

[SupremeGuy]

The OP title is not necessarily true either. I gave an example of how one law would = no guns. News outlets have made the distinction of saying those states have "stronger" gun laws instead of just noting the number of gun related laws, which I don't think was totaled by anyone.

Do you understand now?That's all you had to say, tbh. That the op is wrong.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

The infamous everytown.org numbers have already been debunked.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2014/jun/13/everytown-gun-safety/have-there-been-74-school-shootings-sandy-hook-clo/

After an Oregon high school freshman armed with an assault rifle injured a teacher, killed a student and killed himself Tuesday, (http://www.katu.com/news/local/Police-15-year-old-Reynolds-HS-shooter-was-armed-with-assault-rifle-262754061.html) a striking statistic began circulating on the internet. It said that at least 74 school shootings (http://everytown.org/article/schoolshootings/) had occurred since December 2012, when an assault on Sandy Hook Elementary School by Adam Lanza left 28 dead, including Lanza and his mother.
The statistic came from Everytown for Gun Safety, an advocacy group founded by former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg and gun-control advocate Shannon Watts. That comes out to more than one school shooting per week.
Numerous media outlets reported the 74 school shootings figure, and the number spread widely in Facebook posts and through other forms of social media. Even President Barack Obama brought up the once-a-week line in an interview with Tumblr CEO David Karp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgWbEOPZuV4#t=14).
In the interview, Obama discussed his frustration with lawmakers’ inaction on gun control legislation, particularly in the wake of Sandy Hook. While it’s not clear that Obama was specifically referencing the statistic compiled by Everytown, his comment was in line with their math. "We’re the only developed country on Earth where this happens," he said,
"and it happens now once a week."
But as widely as the number spread, it also attracted criticism (http://www.cnn.com/2014/06/11/us/school-shootings-cnn-number/). Charles Johnson, who writes for the conservative Daily Caller (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/06/10/wow-journalist-attempts-to-debunk-anti-gun-groups-list-of-school-shootings-in-america-since-sandy-hook-heres-what-he-found/#), garnered attention for what he considered a debunking of the Everytown list.
We decided to sift through the numbers ourselves.
How Everytown counted 74 incidents
To its credit, Everytown provided details on each of the 74 shootings, including the date, city and school location. The group also clearly laid out its methodology at the bottom of the list. These make it possible for the critics -- and us -- to look under the hood at its calculations.
The main reason for the criticism of Everytown’s count is that its definition of "school shooting" is relatively broad. The group’s criteria goes beyond what many people would consider "school shootings" -- incidents in which a student or an intruder enters a school and fires at innocent students and staff. For many people, this is the first thing that comes to mind when they hear the phrase "school shooting" -- an incident such as Sandy Hook or, before it, the 1999 Columbine shooting in Colorado that left 15 dead, including the shooters.
Here’s the methodology as explained by the group at the bottom of the list:
Incidents were classified as school shootings when a firearm was discharged inside a school building or on school or campus grounds, as documented in publicly reported news accounts. This includes assaults, homicides, suicides, and accidental shootings. Incidents in which guns were brought into schools but not fired there, or were fired off school grounds after having been possessed in schools, were not included.... Incidents were identified through media reports, so this is likely an undercount of the true total.
This definition allows for incidents that don’t typically call to mind the term "school shooting" -- for example, a case in which a man unaffiliated with Alogna High/Middle School (http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2013/11/01/algona-schools-close-friday-after-police-find-body-on-school-property/article?nclick_check=1) in Iowa killed himself in the school’s parking lot in the middle of the night, or an early-morning armed robbery (http://www.wisn.com/news/breaking-marquette-student-shot-during-campus-robbery/25770492#!X0qcu) on a street that goes through the Marquette University campus in Wisconsin. Both count in Everytown’s tally.
Clearly it is difficult to draw lines. The Everytown list did not include the recent and highly publicized shooting spree in Isla Vista, Calif. In that case (http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/24/us/santa-barbara-isla-vista-shooting-profile/), the shooter was a student at the University of California at Santa Barbara, and he targeted other students, including women living in a sorority house near the campus. Seven people died, but the shooting wasn’t technically on campus, so it didn’t make the list.
Our Breakdown
We reviewed news reports for all 74 shootings and did our best to sort them into five categories. Here’s our breakdown. (See individual shootings by category here (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1CLMoWLXcEwlFuodQjLsx9Mk0VguSzZmxHuUSBNkf6bQ/pub), with clickable links to news reports on each shooting.)
• Incidents such as Sandy Hook or Columbine in which the shooter intended to commit mass murder: 10 instances
• Incidents related to criminal activity (such as drug dealing or robbery), or personal altercations: 39 instances
• Incidents unconnected to members of school community and/or that took place outside school hours: 16 instances
• Suicides: 6 instances
• Accidental discharges: 3 instances
In all, these 74 incidents resulted in 38 deaths and 53 injuries. The biggest death toll in one incident was a shooting spree that ended at Santa Monica College. Six people died, though not all of them took place on the campus.
While the list includes a lot of gunfire, deaths and injuries, only about 14 percent were shootings that mirrored Columbine and Sandy Hook.
In addition, almost half -- 35 -- occurred at a college or university rather than a K-12 school. This clashes with the imagery invoked by the line in the chart’s introduction, that "we should feel secure in sending our children to school — comforted by the knowledge that they’re safe."
We asked James Fox, a criminology professor at Northeastern University, for some perspective. He pointed to the 2013 "Indicators of School Crime and Safety" report (http://nces.ed.gov/pubs2014/2014042.pdf) compiled by the Bureau of Justice Statistics. There were about 45 school-associated violent deaths (not just by guns) at elementary and secondary schools each year between the 1992 and 2010 school years, according to the report. The highest annual total was 63 deaths in 2006-07, while the lowest was 31 in 2010-11.
In other words, Fox said, the number of gun deaths documented by Everytown over the past year and a half are not out of the ordinary. About 15 to 20 kids in grades K-12 are killed at school each year, along with a similar number of college students, he said.
Is it misleading?
The experts we consulted agreed that Everytown’s broad definition of "school shooting" could be misleading, encouraging them to assume that there have been 74 incidents similar to Columbine or Sandy Hook.
While the Everytown definition is certainly one way of calculating it, there is such a range of motivations, degrees of planning and outcomes that it ceases to be an especially useful measurement, said Jay Corzine, a University of Central Florida sociology professor.
Mark Safarik, president of Forensic Behavioral Services Inc. and a former member of the FBI Behavioral Analysis Unit, agreed that when the average person thinks of a school shooting, they think of a mass murder like Sandy Hook.
"There is an ocean of difference between Sandy Hook, Virginia Tech and Columbine and a depressed student who (commits suicide) at school, or an accidental discharge," Safarik said. "To call them all school shootings may be true in a technical sense but is quite disingenuous on an emotional level, which is where they are trying to capture for their audience."
Everytown has countered the media criticism by arguing that focusing too closely on Sandy Hook-like incidents unfairly diminishes the full extent of the dangers to students and staff posed by guns in or near schools.
"The country's gun-violence epidemic has seeped into our children's schools, and that is a problem, regardless of the body count," said spokeswoman Erika Lamb. "Those lives count, too, even if the media is only focused on mass tragedies."
Corzine prefers the designation used by the New York Police Department, among others -- "active shooter," which limits the list to incidents that occur during school hours, involving a firearm discharged with the intent to kill or injure others on school grounds or while in transit on a school vehicle.
In addition, Fox said the statistic is misleading for another reason -- it focuses on short-term patterns, rather than long-term trends. Despite the media focus, Fox said, it’s worth noting that the number of school-related homicides has remained relatively flat for two decades, he said.
"I don't mean to minimize the horror of these events or the pain and suffering of victims, but schools are safe, safer than other places that our children spend time," he said. "For some kids, school is even safer than their home."
Corzine said he sees some value in Everytown’s calculations -- but also pitfalls.
On the one hand, "they are a valid indicator of the ease with which firearms enter the school environment in the United States compared to other highly developed nations." By the same token, though, "it is misleading to use the 74 school shootings in a context that explicitly or implicitly equates them with Sandy Hook."
Our ruling
A statistic calculated by Everytown for Gun Safety, and shared widely on social media, said that there have been 74 "school shootings in America since Sandy Hook."
The group’s figure is accurate only if you use a broad definition of "school shooting" that includes such incidents as suicides, accidents and spillover from adjacent criminal activity. The figure has some value in quantifying the proximity of guns to school campuses, but the group makes a significant stretch by tying the statistic so closely to the mass shooting at Sandy Hook. By doing this, the group closely associates the statistic with planned mass shootings targeting students and school staff -- a category that, using a more strict definition, accounts for only 10 of the 74 incidents.
The statement contains some element of truth but ignores critical facts that would give a different impression. We rate it Mostly False.

That didn't debunk the list. Your so stupid and slow you didn't even have time to read it in your googling frenzy. It disputes their definition of school shootings but does not disagree with the definition of shots fired on school campuses. They want it to mean homicide only. The list instead is school only.

Stupid people always are puritanical in their semantics.

[ChumpDumper]

That's all you had to say, tbh. That the op is wrong.It could be right. No one knows.

[ChumpDumper]

That didn't debunk the list. Your so stupid and slow you didn't even have time to read it in your googling frenzy. It disputes their definition of school shootings but does not disagree with the definition of shots fired on school campuses. They want it to mean homicide only. The list instead is school only.

Stupid people always are puritanical in their semantics.I guess I would reduce the number to 58 if you want to use a stricter characterization.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Gun deaths included suicides.

What the hell is wrong with the culture of white gun owners that make them kill themselves?

That is an entirely different discussion. Just admit you picked a terrible state to use as an example of high gun ownership rate and gun violence.

[ChumpDumper]

That is an entirely different discussion. Just admit you picked a terrible state to use as an example of high gun ownership rate and gun violence.Suicide by gun is quite violent. White people need to stop living in such a corrosive culture.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I guess I would reduce the number to 58 if you want to use a stricter characterization.
When people hear "school shooting" they immediately think of Columbine, Sandy Hook, etc and saying there has been 84 "school shootings" since Sandy is extremely misleading, but that was the whole point of everytown and Mom's demand action anyways.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Suicide by gun is quite violent. White people need to stop living in such a corrosive culture.

Give it up already.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

When people hear "school shooting" they immediately think of Columbine, Sandy Hook, etc and saying there has been 84 "school shootings" since Sandy is extremely misleading, but that was the whole point of everytown and Mom's demand action anyways.

Speak for yourself. You should try this take at PTA meetings. The guy that shot himself in the parking lot matters in discussions about school safety.

[SupremeGuy]

That is an entirely different discussion. Just admit you picked a terrible state to use as an example of high gun ownership rate and gun violence.He won't admit it, tbh. He wouldn't even admit that the implication that the op was trying to present is wrong.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Speak for yourself. You should try this take at PTA meetings. The guy that shot himself in the parking lot matters in discussions about school safety.

That guy who shot himself in the parking lot is an even rarer occurrence that mass school shootings. Mass school shootings are terrible, but the article put out by everytown/mom's demand action was disingenuous at best.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

That guy who shot himself in the parking lot is an even rarer occurrence that mass school shootings. Mass school shootings are terrible, but the article put out by everytown/mom's demand action was disingenuous at best.

You are not even arguing the point. You ran like hell from the Canada numbers. That was amusing.

Anyway i am going to binge on Cowboys and Spurs. Have a fucked day.

[ChumpDumper]

When people hear "school shooting" they immediately think of Columbine, Sandy Hook, etc and saying there has been 84 "school shootings" since Sandy is extremely misleading, but that was the whole point of everytown and Mom's demand action anyways.i think of someone being shot at school. I mean wouldn't you try to pimp school shootings that you think are a result of culture?

Of course you would.


Give it up already.Oh, I see. The culture argument can't be made for white people. It is solely your argument for minorities.

[TheSanityAnnex]

You are not even arguing the point. You ran like hell from the Canada numbers. That was amusing.

Anyway i am going to binge on Cowboys and Spurs. Have a fucked day.

Percentage of whites in Canada?

[TheSanityAnnex]

i think of someone being shot at school. I mean wouldn't you try to pimp school shootings that you think are a result of culture?

Of course you would.

Oh, I see. The culture argument can't be made for white people. It is solely your argument for minorities.

You can make the culture argument for whites committing suicide at a higher rate and I would agree with you all day long. But suicide does not take anyone else's life so I don't really care about people who choose that path. There is a culture of violence instilled in many young African American men that needs to be addressed, why is that so hard to admit for you?

[ChumpDumper]

Percentage of whites in Canada?Rate of gun ownership in Canada?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Heading out of the office, need 7 points out of Jordan Reed for a 3,000 dollar fan duel win. Enjoy the game.

[ChumpDumper]

You can make the culture argument for whites committing suicide at a higher rate and I would agree with you all day long. But suicide does not take anyone else's life so I don't really care about people who choose that path. There is a culture of violence instilled in many young African American men that needs to be addressed, why is that so hard to admit for you?I think it is an issue, but probably a lot more of a broad one than you would like to think.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Heading out of the office, need 7 points out of Jordan Reed for a 3,000 dollar fan duel win. Enjoy the game.
Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed

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Texas probation officer fatally shoots self in groin during target practicehttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/texas-probation-officer-fatally-shoots-self-in-groin-during-target-practice/

looks like gun fellatin' Texans aren't born with gun handling genes :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

Texas probation officer fatally shoots self in groin during target practice

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/texas-probation-officer-fatally-shoots-self-in-groin-during-target-practice/

looks like gun fellatin' Texans aren't born with gun handling genes :lol



What gun should I buy with my winnings?

I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on this.

http://www.fnhusa.com/l/products/rifles/ballista/

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argument led New Mexico sheriff's deputy to kill fellow officer

http://www.latimes.com/nation/nationnow/la-na-nn-new-mexico-sheriffs-deputy-shot-20141028-story.html

and NRA/GOA want drunk college students to buy guns.

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Baseball bad boy José Canseco shoots off middle finger while cleaning loaded handgun

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Former baseball star José Canseco accidentally shot himself in the hand (http://www.tmz.com/2014/10/28/jose-canseco-shot-finger-gun-cleaning-accident/) Tuesday afternoon at his Las Vegas home.Police said the 50-year-old Canseco was cleaning his handgun and apparently didn’t realize it was loaded.

The gun fired, badly injuring the middle finger on his left hand, authorities said.

Canseco’s fiancée told KTNV-TV (http://www.jrn.com/ktnv/news/Accidental-shooting-reported-at-Las-Vegas-home-of-Jose-Canseco-280725152.html) the former American League Most Valuable Player had visited a shooting range last week and forgot he left a bullet in the weapon.

Surgeons are trying to determine whether the finger must be amputated, the woman said.

The couple plans to get rid of all their guns,

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/10/baseball-bad-boy-jose-canseco-shoots-off-middle-finger-while-cleaning-loaded-handgun/

:lol stupid fucking gun fellators and their destructive, murderous toys.

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Wrong, NRA—Right-to-Carry Laws Actually Increase Gun Violence

A new study from researchers at Stanford University debunks the oft-cited fact that more guns leads to less crime (http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/M/bo6686900.html) [3]. In fact, the researchers found, the opposite is the case: right-to-carry laws are associated with higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder.

The results of the study are imperfect. Lead author of the study and Stanford law professor John J. Donohue III said (http://news.stanford.edu/news/2014/november/donohue-guns-study-111414.html)[4], “Trying to estimate the impact of right-to-carry laws has been a vexing task over the last two decades.” While they specifically found that right-to-carry laws had yielded 8 percent more instances of aggravated assault, that number isn’t set in stone because of a number of confounding factors (such as various drug epidemics). Regardless, Donohue says that 8 percent is a low guess–the reality could be much higher.Still, the study’s findings are significant in that it pokes a hole in the gun lobby’s main argument. The Washington Post’s Christopher Ingraham provides context (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/14/more-guns-more-crime-new-research-debunks-a-central-thesis-of-the-gun-rights-movement/) [5]:

The notion stems from a paper published in 1997 (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=10129)[6] by economists John Lott and David Mustard, who looked at county-level crime data from 1977 to 1992 and concluded that “allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes and it appears to produce no increase in accidental deaths.” Of course, the study of gun crime has advanced significantly since then (no thanks to Congress (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/06/25/federal-gun-violence-research-has-been-banned-for-years-now-researchers-are-getting-around-it-with-google/)[7]). Some researchers have gone so far as to call Lott and Mustard’s original study ”completely discredited. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/29/more-guns-less-crime-not-exactly/)[8]”

One of the major critiques of the study came from the National Research Council (http://www.nationalacademies.org/nrc/) [9], which in 2004 extended the data through the year 2000 and ultimately concluded (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10881&page=150) [10] that “with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.” Or in other words, “More guns, less crime?


Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, confirmed to the Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/14/right-to-carry-laws-crime_n_6160414.html) that the study accurately concluded that “right-to-carry laws increase firearm-related assaults,” although “the exact magnitude of that effect is uncertain.”

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/wrong-nra-right-carry-laws-actually-increase-gun-violence?akid=12474.187590.PdXP7O&rd=1&src=newsletter1027267&t=5

NRA bought enough Repug politicians so federal govt is BLOCKED from studying gun crime.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Wrong, NRA—Right-to-Carry Laws Actually Increase Gun Violence

A new study from researchers at Stanford University debunks the oft-cited fact that more guns leads to less crime (http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/M/bo6686900.html) [3]. In fact, the researchers found, the opposite is the case: right-to-carry laws are associated with higher rates of aggravated assault, rape, robbery and murder.

The results of the study are imperfect. Lead author of the study and Stanford law professor John J. Donohue III said (http://news.stanford.edu/news/2014/november/donohue-guns-study-111414.html)[4], “Trying to estimate the impact of right-to-carry laws has been a vexing task over the last two decades.” While they specifically found that right-to-carry laws had yielded 8 percent more instances of aggravated assault, that number isn’t set in stone because of a number of confounding factors (such as various drug epidemics). Regardless, Donohue says that 8 percent is a low guess–the reality could be much higher.Still, the study’s findings are significant in that it pokes a hole in the gun lobby’s main argument. The Washington Post’s Christopher Ingraham provides context (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/14/more-guns-more-crime-new-research-debunks-a-central-thesis-of-the-gun-rights-movement/) [5]:

The notion stems from a paper published in 1997 (http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=10129)[6] by economists John Lott and David Mustard, who looked at county-level crime data from 1977 to 1992 and concluded that “allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons deters violent crimes and it appears to produce no increase in accidental deaths.” Of course, the study of gun crime has advanced significantly since then (no thanks to Congress (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/06/25/federal-gun-violence-research-has-been-banned-for-years-now-researchers-are-getting-around-it-with-google/)[7]). Some researchers have gone so far as to call Lott and Mustard’s original study ”completely discredited. (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/07/29/more-guns-less-crime-not-exactly/)[8]”

One of the major critiques of the study came from the National Research Council (http://www.nationalacademies.org/nrc/) [9], which in 2004 extended the data through the year 2000 and ultimately concluded (http://www.nap.edu/openbook.php?record_id=10881&page=150) [10] that “with the current evidence it is not possible to determine that there is a causal link between the passage of right-to-carry laws and crime rates.” Or in other words, “More guns, less crime?


Daniel Webster, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research, confirmed to the Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/11/14/right-to-carry-laws-crime_n_6160414.html) that the study accurately concluded that “right-to-carry laws increase firearm-related assaults,” although “the exact magnitude of that effect is uncertain.”

http://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/wrong-nra-right-carry-laws-actually-increase-gun-violence?akid=12474.187590.PdXP7O&rd=1&src=newsletter1027267&t=5

NRA bought enough Repug politicians so federal govt is BLOCKED from studying gun crime.




http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-concealed-weapons-20141113-story.html

Relaxed rules for carrying concealed guns in public may not be challenged by California state officials or advocacy groups, a federal appeals panel decided Wednesday.The decision was another victory for gun rights advocates, but it was not likely to be the last word. The state has the right to appeal Wednesday's order and legal analysts expect the state to do so. There is another pending gun case involving the right to carry concealed weapons in California and a ruling in that case could resolve the debate.

In its 2-1 ruling Wednesday, the U.S. 9th Circuit Court of Appeals denied an attempt by Atty. Gen. Kamala D. Harris, a gun control group and law enforcement associations to intervene in a case that struck down San Diego County's policy of tightly restricting the carrying of concealed guns. Gun owner Edward Peruta was the lead challenger of the San Diego rules.

State law allows county law enforcement agencies to set rules that limit permits for concealed guns. The 9th Circuit panel that ruled Wednesday decided on the same split vote in February that San Diego County's policy requiring law-abiding gun owners to show a specific need for protection violated the 2nd Amendment's guarantee of the right to bear arms.



TSA is one step closer to getting his CCW. She's named boutons, ain't she pretty.

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:lol I knew obsessed sicko gun fellator TSA would bite! :lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

:lol I knew obsessed sicko gun fellator TSA would bite! :lol
Same could be said for you.

Im curious though, what makes me a sicko?

[boutons_deux]

Same could be said for you.

Im curious though, what makes me a sicko?

your blind, obsessive defense of no effective gun regulation, no matter how many 10Ks of gun deaths/year your obsession enables.

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These charts show just how bad gun violence is in the US when compared to other developed countries

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[cantthinkofanything]

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Idaho woman shot dead by 2-year-old son in Walmart was a nuclear research scientist


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woman who was shot to death (http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/woman-shot-and-killed-with-her-own-gun-by-2-year-old-while-shopping-at-idaho-walmart/) by her 2-year-son at an Idaho Walmart was identified as nuclear research scientist Veronica Rutledge,

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Gun-toting cop-watchers arrested after screaming obscenities at Texas police

A group of Texas gun lovers plans a rally to protest the arrest of one of its members who scared police by carrying firearms during a “cop watch” patrol.

Open Carry Tarrant County plans to march Jan. 10 from the Arlington Police Department to City Hall while carrying rifles and black-powder pistols to demand the return of its members’ seized weapons.

Jacob Cordova and Pablo Frias were arrested Saturday in separate incidents while videotaping police officers as they conducted official duties,

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/gun-toting-cop-watchers-arrested-after-screaming-obscenities-at-texas-police/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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Georgia police chief says accidentally shot, critically hurt wife

A suburban Atlanta police chief on Thursday shot his wife and critically wounded her in what he described as an accidental discharge of his service weapon at the couple's home, officials said.

Peachtree City Police Chief William McCollom, who has been placed on administrative leave while the shooting is investigated, called 911 to report the shooting before dawn, Peachtree City Police Lieutenant Mark Brown said at a news conference.

The shooting occurred in the couple's bedroom, and although McCollom initially told a 911 operator he had shot his wife twice by accident, an initial assessment from the scene indicates that he only fired once,

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/01/01/us-usa-policechief-georgia-idUSKBN0KA1TG20150101?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

One possible NRA/GOA response: "If she would have had a gun (msg: everybody go buy LOT$ of GUN$), she could have shot back."

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Man’s worst enemy: 6 negligent gun owners who were shot by their own dogs

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U.S. Teens Have Same Firearm Access regardless of Suicide Risk

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/u-s-teens-have-same-firearm-access-regardless-of-suicide-risk/

[spurraider21]

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:lol

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Watch: Woman in elevator reacts in horror as Kentucky cop accidentally shoots himself in stomachhttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/01/watch-woman-in-elevator-reacts-in-horror-as-kentucky-cop-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-stomach/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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Stalkers! Lady Beaters! Come To Michigan And Pack All The Heat You Can Handle!

new Michigan law (http://www.eclectablog.com/2015/01/new-michigan-law-will-compel-county-clerks-to-issue-concealed-weapons-permits-to-stalkers-spouse-abusers.html)awaiting the signature of Gov. Rick Snyder. The bill would:


force county clerks in Michigan to issue concealed weapons permits (formally “concealed pistol licenses” or CPLs) to people covered by Personal Protection Orders (PPOs) unless the PPO explicitly forbids them from carrying a firearm.


In addition to increasing the freedom of spouse abusers and stalkers to arm themselves and protect the nation from a tyrannical out-of-control federal government, the bill also disbands the county weapon licensing boards that currently issue concealed-carry permits, and would turn the issuance of permits over to county clerks, making Michigan a true “shall issue” state and ensuring that no local authorities slow down the process of getting as many guns into the hands of as many people as possible.

The law also introduces some other efficiencies, like reducing the fees for a CPL and allowing applicants to “certify that he or she has completed educational and firing range requirements” — while also barring county clerks from any freedom-hating attempts to require verification of those claims. But there are also some very tough enforcement provisions added, too, like requiring applicants to have a state-issued photo ID, which certainly offsets the requirement that stalkers and domestic abusers be allowed to have concealed weapon permits.

http://wonkette.com/571186/stalkers-lady-beaters-come-to-michigan-and-pack-all-the-heat-you-can-handle


btw, there is "PBS Frontline documentary, “Gunned Down: the Power of the NRA,” which airs Tuesday in most markets."

[TheSanityAnnex]

Boots finally got out to shoot my .17hmr this weekend and holy shit is that thing accurate. Range I was at only goes out to 100 yards but I was shooting dime sized groups all day. With the recent run on .22 ammo I've given up even looking for it and have sold all my .22's. Do you think the next caliber to be horded will be the .17hmr?

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Woman Mistakenly Shoots Husband Who Brought Home Surprise Breakfast
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tiffany-segule-fayetteville-nc-shooting?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

:lol

[TheSanityAnnex]

Woman Mistakenly Shoots Husband Who Brought Home Surprise Breakfast


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tiffany-segule-fayetteville-nc-shooting?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

:lol




Boots, should I rebuild by old 10-22 or get the new breakdown model?

[Th'Pusher]

Boots, should I rebuild by old 10-22 or get the new breakdown model?
Save your money and stop being a spendthrift. It's embarrassing

[TheSanityAnnex]

Save your money and stop being a spendthrift. It's embarrassing
:cry $200 :cry

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and the sickos run wild, get curb stomped

Lawmakers Ban Open Carry In Washington State Capitol After Gun Nuts Storm Building

In a classic case of a group hurting their cause more than helping it, approximately 200 gun rights activists demonstrated at Washington’s state capitol building on Thursday morning (http://www.kval.com/news/local/Hundreds-of-gun-rights-activists-rally-at-Washington-state-capitol-288753681.html) to ostensibly protest the passage of I-594, a law that expands background checks in the state.

A large number of the demonstrators brought assault rifles and holstered pistols to the rally.

Eventually, after a number of speeches on the steps of the Capitol, some of the activists entered the building with rifles and made their way to the gallery shortly after that morning’s House session had ended.A day after this display, Lt. Governor Brad Owen, a Democrat and President of the Senate, announced that openly carried firearms are now banned from the public viewing area. (http://www.theolympian.com/2015/01/16/3529248_legislature-weighs-change-on-openly.html?rh=1) Owen pointed out that other forms of demonstrating are prohibited in the public gallery, such as applause, and they do not allow backpacks and umbrellas to be brought into the area. With that in mind, it would only make sense that guns are off limits.

Owen, a Democrat who also serves as president of the Senate, said a notice of the change will be posted outside the gallery at the Capitol, likely before Monday’s floor session.

“We’re just noting that open carry is a form of demonstration and it’s no different than carrying a placard or something else of that nature,” he said.

Owen said it didn’t make sense to allow people to openly carry firearms while banning backpacks, signs and umbrellas.

“We’re not going to treat them differently than everyone else,” he said of open-carry advocates.


Much like other open carry activists throughout the nation, the group in Washington wanted to make a spectacle out of carrying assault rifles and dressing up in military garb during their ‘protest.’

By doing so, they only helped the cause of gun control groups, as their tactics give the appearance that they are nothing more than unhinged wackos and gun fetishists.

This was perfectly demonstrated earlier in the week when the Texas state legislature installed panic buttons (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/15/belligerent-open-carry-group-confronts-harasses-texas-state-lawmakers.html) in lawmakers’ offices due to the actions of an open carry group.

http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/17/lawmakers-ban-open-carry-washington-state-capitol-gun-nuts-storm-building.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29 (http://www.politicususa.com/2015/01/17/lawmakers-ban-open-carry-washington-state-capitol-gun-nuts-storm-building.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+politicususa%2FfJAl+%28Politi cus+USA+%29)

you sicko gen fellators aren't very smart, are you?

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:lol the high comedy NEVER ENDS! :lol

Kentucky police officer accidentally shoots himself in gun store (VIDEO) (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/16/1358191/-Kentucky-police-officer-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-gun-store-VIDEO)

A Kentucky police officer is suing a gun store after he accidentally shoots himself in the hand. The shot was caught on camera.Surveillance video shows the officer checking out a handgun inside a sporting goods store. The clerk hands him the gun, the officer inspects it for a moment and pulls the trigger, shooting himself in the hand.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/01/16/1358191/-Kentucky-police-officer-accidentally-shoots-himself-in-gun-store-VIDEO?detail=email

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[boutons_deux]

y'all fun fellators are really a stupid bunch

TSA finds record number of firearms in carry-on bags

A record 2,212 firearms — most of them loaded — were discovered in travelers' carry-on bags at U.S. airports last year, according to 2014 statistics released today by the Department of Homeland Security.

Transportation Security Administration officers found an average of six firearms per day in passengers' carry-on bags or on their bodies. More than 80% of the guns were loaded. The total number of firearms discovered at airport security checkpoints rose 22% from 2013, the DHS statistics show.

The No. 1 excuse given by passengers going through airport checkpoints with guns was that they forget they had the firearms with them.

When TSA officers find the guns, they call in police officers working at the airport. Police interview the passengers to see whether their guns are licensed and determine whether or not they should be arrested. The gun-toting passengers face thousands of dollars in federal fines.

Travelers with licensed guns are allowed to pack their unloaded firearms into checked bags only.

The top five airports for firearms discoveries in 2014 were Dallas/Fort Worth International, Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport, Phoenix Sky Harbor International Airport, Houston George Bush Intercontinental Airport and Denver International Airport.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/01/23/firearms-airports-tsa-carry-on-bags/22169355/

:lol stupid fuckers

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Texas Gun-Rights Leader Says Failure To Pass Open Carry Law ‘Punishable By Death

DALLAS — Texas gun-rights advocate Kory Watkins, leader of Open Carry Tarrant County, recently posted a chilling video to his Facebook page that appears to level threats at Texas state lawmakers.

The video was quickly taken down from Facebook but was salvaged on YouTube. It appears to build on Watkins’ veiled threats to the office of Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick last week.

In the video, Watkins states that he is frustrated with what he calls games legislators are playing with his push for so-called “constitutional carry” rights.

He then goes on to suggest that failure to open Texas up to open carry of pistols without any licensing requirements is tantamount to treason.

“We should demanding these people give us our rights back or it’s punishable by death. Treason. Do you understand how serious this is Texas?” Watkins asks. “This is treason against the
American people. You don’t sell my right back to me. You’re going to find trouble.”

Earlier in the video, he suggests the time has come for guns rights activists to move beyond peaceful protests.

“I don’t think they want to mess around with us too much longer. They better start giving us our rights or this peaceful non-cooperation stuff is going to be gamed up. We are going to step it up a notch. I think here in Texas we are tired of jacking around with people in suits,” Watkins said.

http://www.nationalmemo.com/texas-gun-rights-leader-says-failure-pass-open-carry-law-punishable-death/

it's fucking Texas and fucking Texans. :lol

... if Watkins were a BLACK MAN making "terroristic" threats ...

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Oklahoma boy dies after pot with explosive hit by bullet

An 8-year-old Oklahoma boy was killed after being struck with shrapnel when a pot containing an explosive blew up after it was shot with a high-powered rifle, a sheriff's office said on Monday.

Two people, including the child and a 22-year-old man, were struck with metal shards from the pot, which had been placed on a stove outside in a yard and contained an explosive along the lines of Tannerite, Sequoyah County Sheriff Ron Lockhart said about Sunday's incident.

Tannerite is a stable compound often used in target practice because it can explode when struck by a bullet.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/09/us-usa-oklahoma-explosive-idUSKBN0LD21H20150209?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

[CosmicCowboy]

Oklahoma boy dies after pot with explosive hit by bullet

An 8-year-old Oklahoma boy was killed after being struck with shrapnel when a pot containing an explosive blew up after it was shot with a high-powered rifle, a sheriff's office said on Monday.

Two people, including the child and a 22-year-old man, were struck with metal shards from the pot, which had been placed on a stove outside in a yard and contained an explosive along the lines of Tannerite, Sequoyah County Sheriff Ron Lockhart said about Sunday's incident.

Tannerite is a stable compound often used in target practice because it can explode when struck by a bullet.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/09/us-usa-oklahoma-explosive-idUSKBN0LD21H20150209?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

youtube idiots. You just can't fix stupid, unfortunately.

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youtube idiots. You just can't fix stupid, unfortunately.

but y'all sure can sell stupid lotsa guns.

[CosmicCowboy]

but y'all sure can sell stupid lotsa guns.

WE get it boo. You want guns outlawed in the US.

never happen, but keep on spittleing.

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WE get it boo. You want guns outlawed in the US.

never happen, but keep on spittleing.

you get nothing, because I don't want guns outlawed. That's your redneck, gun-fellator parroting of NRA/GAO FUD

[CosmicCowboy]

Then what the fuck are you spittleing about?

[boutons_deux]

Then what the fuck are you spittleing about?

you get nothing, I'm not spittleing. I'm dissenting, pushing back, which is what you redneck gun fellatin wannbe macho men bullies hate.

[CosmicCowboy]

you get nothing, I'm not spittleing. I'm dissenting, pushing back, which is what you redneck gun fellatin wannbe macho men bullies hate.

Actually I have nothing but contempt for you Boo. You still haven't told us what you want in the way of gun laws.

[boutons_deux]

Actually I have nothing but contempt for you Boo. You still haven't told us what you want in the way of gun laws.

You Lie

I can't find it now but I gave a long, multi-point message of how I see serious, public-health-promoting/gun-violence-reduction gun regulation, w/o banning and without NRA/GOA FUD 100% confiscation.

[CosmicCowboy]

You Lie

I can't find it now but I gave a long, multi-point message of how I see serious, public-health-promoting/gun-violence-reduction gun regulation, w/o banning and without NRA/GOA FUD 100% confiscation.

Sheeeeeut

Now you are gonna have to go find that cut and paste again.

Damn.

[boutons_deux]

Sheeeeeut

Now you are gonna have to go find that cut and paste again.

Damn.

I looked, coudn't find it, but IIRC, even TSA agreed with nearly all the points, a blind squirrel event.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I looked, coudn't find it, but IIRC, even TSA agreed with nearly all the points, a blind squirrel event.

Yeah I recall it was pretty reasonable.

A lot better than Bloomberg's latest :lol

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/8/sughed-michael-bloomberg-suggests-disarming-minori/ (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/8/sughed-michael-bloomberg-suggests-disarming-minori/)

Former New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg reportedly argued Friday that guns need to be kept out of the hands of minorities in order to keep them alive.

While speaking at the Aspen Institute, Mr. Bloomberg, 72, said 95 percent of murders fall into a specific category: a male minority between the ages of 15 and 25, The Aspen Times reported (http://www.aspentimes.com/news/14957190-113/michael-bloomberg-calls-colorados-decision-on-legal-pot-stupid).
Cities need to get guns out of this group’s hands and keep them alive, the former three-term mayor said, according to The Times.
“These kids think they’re going to get killed anyway because all their friends are getting killed,” Mr. Bloomberg (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/bloomberg/) said, The Times reported. “They just don’t have any long-term focus or anything. It’s a joke to have a gun. It’s a joke to pull a trigger.”
Mr. Bloomberg (http://www.washingtontimes.com/topics/bloomberg/) brought up the New York Police Department’s stop-and-frisk practices, recalling a time during his last year in office when a Baptist minster in Harlem invited him to speak at their church, The Times reported.


Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/8/sughed-michael-bloomberg-suggests-disarming-minori/#ixzz3RI9UsIHB
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter (http://ec.tynt.com/b/rw?id=ctd-fI3Dar4z1uacwqm_6r&u=washtimes)

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Wisconsin gun activist whines: It’s so unfair you have to unload your weapon on school grounds

Clarke said that he believes that gun-free school zone laws infringe upon his rights as a gun owner because it imposes an unreasonable burden for him to have to constantly unload and then reload his weapon.

“We actually have lawmakers in Wisconsin who are looking at the question of whether or not it makes any sense to enforce prohibitions against lawful people who carry in Wisconsin under gun-free school zones,” McKenna said. “Nik Clarke, I know you’re working on that.”

Clarke explained that while Wisconsin’s concealed carry laws allow people to have their weapons in school zones, they are not allowed to bring them on school grounds, which he believes is unreasonable.
“What you have then is a situation where if a person goes on to school grounds,” Clarke said, “in your vehicle, you have to have it unloaded and in a case or you’re still committing a felony.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/wisconsin-gun-activist-whines-its-so-unfair-you-have-to-unload-your-weapon-on-school-grounds/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

you gun fellators show once again you're bunch of sickos

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Michigan Republican official fatally shoots self in eye while adjusting gun in her bra holster


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/bond1-800x430.jpg

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/michigan-republican-official-fatally-shoots-self-in-eye-while-adjusting-gun-in-her-bra-holster/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

4-year-old Wasilla boy shot in the leg when mother’s .357 magnum falls out of her holster

A 4-year-old Wasilla, Alaska boy is in the hospital after being shot in the leg by his mother’s high-powered handgun after it fell out of her holster, reports KTVA (http://www.ktva.com/ast-4-year-old-boy-injured-after-mothers-gun-falls-from-holster-in-wasilla-850/).

According to a report filed by Alaska State Troopers, the unidentified woman and her family were exiting their truck when the handgun — a .357 magnum — slipped out of her holster, striking the ground, and firing a shot that struck the boy.

The troopers, responding to a report of a child with a gunshot wound, arrived to find paramedics already at the scene.

According to the trooper’s report, the bullet struck the 4-year-old “then exited his leg” before lodging in the trim of a nearby building.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/02/4-year-old-wasilla-boy-shot-in-the-leg-when-mothers-357-magnum-falls-out-of-her-holster/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

She shot her son, and probably has never and will never shoot a Bad Guy.

:lol gun fellators! shooting more American kids, spouses, friends, strangers, EVERY YEAR, than any radical Muslims.

gun fellators! A bigger national public health disaster than venereal disease! :lol

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Louisiana Man Accidentally Kills Teen Babysitter While Fixing His Gun

A Louisiana man who was coming home to check on his children on Saturday night accidentally shot and killed the 13-year-old boy who was babysitting them, The Advocate (http://theadvocate.com/news/police/11668741-123/accidental-shooting-kills-juvenile) newspaper reported on Monday.

Adonis Forbes, 25, was planning to stop at home briefly before heading back out for the evening, Baton Rouge police spokesman Cpl. L'Jean McKneely told the paper. But while there, he attempted to fix his gun and ended up accidentally firing it, McKneely said.

The shot struck the babysitter, Murrain Hawkins, in the abdomen, according to McKneely. The paper said when police arrived they found Forbes trying to care for Hawkins.

The teen was pronounced dead after being taken to a local hospital.

Forbes was reportedly charged with negligent homicide.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/adonis-forbes-baton-rouge-shooting?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Adonis is black, probably headed for Angola.

If he were white ...

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Texas 3-year-old dies after shooting himself in head with gun he found in mother’s purse

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/texas-3-year-old-dies-after-shooting-himself-in-head-with-gun-he-found-in-mothers-purse/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

Texas 4-year-old fatally shoots self — just 2 days and a few miles from 3-year-old who did the samehttp://www.rawstory.com/rs/2015/03/texas-4-year-old-fatally-shoots-self-just-2-days-and-a-few-miles-from-3-year-old-who-did-the-same/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[Winehole23]

Texas House freshman Matt Rinaldi has filed a bold and inevitably controversial bill, HB 1168 (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=84R&Bill=HB1168), which creates a defense to charges of resisting arrest, search, and detention if the underlying search or detention was "unlawful."

So resisting arrest would become permissible when a cop unlawfully searched or detained a suspect. See the very simple, straightforward bill language (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/84R/billtext/html/HB01168I.htm). A far narrower version, but similar in concept, backed by the NRA, passed in Indiana in 2012 (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2012-06-05/nra-backed-law-spells-out-when-indianans-may-open-fire-on-police).

There are Democrats who want to hold cops accountable by authorizing (worthless, redundant) civilian review boards (http://www.legis.state.tx.us/BillLookup/History.aspx?LegSess=84R&Bill=HB261) to second guess statutorily hamstrung (http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2015/02/lege-not-mayors-must-address-police.html) departmental disciplinary processes. But leave it to a libertarian Republican to suggest that victims of illegal searches and seizures by police should be granted the right of front-line self defense!

Basically, this is a Stand Your Ground law aimed at the cops. And say what you will about the suggestion, it would probably be a greater deterrent to false arrests and Fourth Amdendment violations than Texas judges appear capable of acting post hoc.http://gritsforbreakfast.blogspot.com/2015/03/rinaldi-stand-your-ground-against.html

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The Ralls County Sheriff’s Department says the shooting happened Sunday at the Salt River Gun Range near New London. Authorities say 25-year-old Andrea Jinneth Corredor-Rivera of Colombia died at the scene.

Corredor-Rivera died of a single self-inflicted gunshot wound to the head. Ralls County Sheriff Gerry Dinwiddie tells WGEM-TV that the woman was shooting a .500-caliber Smith & Wesson handgun when the strength of the gun’s recoil caused her to lose control. She was visiting family in the area.

The sheriff said the gun spun around in her hand, leading to a second fatal shot.

http://bearingarms.com/negligent-suicide-with-a-500-smith-wesson-revolver/

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The Gun Lobby Loves Freedom—But Apparently Not Free Speech

Wrapping themselves in the Second Amendment and claiming to speak for the Founding Fathers is central to the anti-gun control argument,

But what happens when gun-loving patriots are asked to support any other freedom but the freedom to own a gun? That question was put to the test recently by the pro-gun control group States United to Prevent Gun Violence (http://www.ceasefireusa.org/), and they quickly discovered that gun lobbyists have no problem looking for ways to censor and silence their opponents.

The group set out to debunk the widely-held notion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nAfWfF4TjM) that owning a gun makes you safer by inviting a group of people interested in buying their first gun to a fake “gun shop” set up in New York City. When would-be gun buyers came inside, the man behind the counter showed them a model of the gun they wanted to buy and told them the “history” of the gun:

This gun is the same kind that a five-year-old found in his parent’s bedroom and shot his baby brother with it. Or this is the same kind of gun that a two-year-old accidentally pulled from his mother’s purse in Walmart and shot her with.

Or another gun, a collector’s item, that was the one Adam Lanza used to rapidly murder 20 children and six adults at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

The video is effective, capturing the reactions of people as they are disabused of the notion that owning a gun makes you safe and reminded that having a gun in your house just makes it that much likelier that someone in the house, by accident or on purpose, will shoot themselves or someone else. Apparently, the gun lobby thinks it’s, well, too effective, as Rachel Maddow reported on Friday (http://mediamatters.org/video/2015/03/23/msnbcs-rachel-maddow-gun-groups-are-freaking-ou/202995).

The official NRA affiliate in New York, the New York State Rifle and Pistol Association (NYSRPA) is trying to use the law to criminalize this video and participation in it (http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/03/19/nra-affiliate-is-so-scared-of-this-gun-safety-v/202962). They want the state to use laws meant to ensure gun safety to be used to persecute people for speaking out for gun safety. From the press release (sic):

The New York State Rifle and Pistol Association is calling upon state Attorney General Eric Schneiderman to investigate the producer of the video for potential violations of state and local laws. :lol

"First off, the firearms and accessories hanging in the background do not appear to comply with either New York City law or the so-called SAFE Act," said NYSRPA President Thomas King in a statement.

"Second, it felony violation of the Sullivan Act for a person to posses a handgun anywhere in New York without a license. The video clearly shows individual 'customers' handling various handguns and doing so in an unsafe manner," King said. :lol

But, as Maddow reported, the “guns” in the video were just really well-made fakes and apparently the entire thing was done with the cooperation and supervision of the New York Police Department.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/cafe/gun-lobby-loves-freedom-but-not-free-speech?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

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17 States Where You're More Likely To Die From Guns Than Car Crashes

“Firearm-related fatalities exceeded motor vehicle fatalities in 17 states and the District of Columbia in 2013,” VPC’s report (http://www.vpc.org/studies/gunsvscars15.pdf) said, citing the most recent federal data.

“That year, gun deaths (including gun suicide, homicide, and fatal unintentional shootings) outpaced motor vehicle deaths in Alaska, Arizona, Colorado, District of Columbia, Indiana, Louisiana, Maryland, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Tennessee, Utah, Virginia, Washington, and Wyoming.”

http://www.alternet.org/tea-party-and-right/17-states-where-youre-more-likely-die-guns-car-crashes

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What does gun violence really cost?

http://assets.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/graybubble.jpghttp://www.motherjones.com/politics/2015/04/true-cost-of-gun-violence-in-america

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7 in 10 schools now have shooting drills, needlessly traumatizing huge numbers of children


http://www.vox.com/2015/5/22/8644219/school-shooting-hysteria-is-out-of-control

The Most Powerful Nation in the (6000-year-old) Universe is scared shitless of Ebola, Isis, Muslims, government taking over Texas, Sharia, and now gun nuts shooting up 100Ks of schools.

The real, ongoing threat to America is from the VRWC, the 1%, BigCorp, the MIC, the police surveillance state which have all conspired to deflect attention from their evil selves.

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Idaho couple whose 5-year-old fatally shot another child reach plea deal

An Idaho couple whose 5-year-old child accidentally shot and killed a young playmate will see child injury charges dismissed provided they craft and present a course for families on the dangers of firearms,

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/22/us-usa-guns-idaho-idUSKBN0O72BA20150522?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

:lol

How many courses does USA need? How many careless parents causing dead kids get to do courses? :lol

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NRA unhappy with Obama over new rules to keep guns out of mentally ill, domestic abuser’s hands

As the Justice Department prepares new regulations intended to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally Ill and domestic abusers, the NRA and guns rights activists are gearing up once again to call the Obama Administration “gun grabbers” out to disarm America.According to The Hill (http://thehill.com/regulation/243520-administration-preps-new-gun-regulations), the Justice Department is moving forward with more than a dozen new gun-related regulations which they intend to implement before the end of the Obama administration.

Under the new rules, attempts will be made to keep guns out of the hands of people who are mentally ill or have been convicted of domestic abuse.

The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) is looking to revive a rule proposed in 1998 that would block domestic abusers from owning guns, making it illegal for some who has been convicted of a misdemeanor domestic violence offense to purchase or own a gun.

Luke O’Dell of the National Association for Gun Rights, criticized the plans to implement any more rules, saying, “It’s clear President Obama is beginning his final assault on our Second Amendment rights by forcing his anti-gun agenda on honest law-abiding citizens through executive force.”

Addressing the attempt to keep guns away from domestic abusers, Michael Hammond, legislative counsel for the Gun Owners of America said it goes too far.

“That could be a person who spanked his kid, or yelled at his wife, or slapped her husband,” he said before turning to the issue of the mentally ill and adding, “The Obama administration is trying very hard to disqualify people from owning a gun on the basis that they are seeing a psychologist.”

As expected, the NRA chimed in, with a spokesman stating that the new gun laws stigmatize people with emotional problems and might have the effect of keeping them from seeking help if they might lose their guns.

At the American Thinker, Rick Moran held out hope that a Republican president in 2016 would dismantle any new gun laws. (http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2015/05/obamas_last_gasp_effort_at_gun_control.html)

“Some of these new regulations will be in court for years, so the president isn’t likely to see many of them implemented. Indeed, if a Republican wins the White House in 2016, it’s likely the worst of them will be withdrawn anyway,” he wrote. “But before Obama bows out, his efforts to circumvent Congress again and issue decrees that restrict gun rights will cost Second Amendment advocates a ton of money to fight them.”

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/nra-unhappy-with-obama-over-new-rules-to-keep-guns-out-of-mentally-ill-domestic-abusers-hands/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

:lol

gun fellators and gun industry shills protecting gun industry profits

Freedom!

[boutons_deux]

4-year-old girl dies after accidentally shooting herself in the face


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/4-year-old-girl-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-herself-in-the-face/

[boutons_deux]

In just the last week, a three-year old boy in South Carolina shot himself (http://www.wwaytv3.com/2015/05/31/toddler-in-critical-condition-after-shooting-self/),

a Virginia toddler shot and killed himself (http://www.myfoxdc.com/story/29179589/virginia-toddler-dies-after-accidentally-shooting-self)with one of his parents' guns, and

a four-year-old shot and killed a man at a South Dakota gun range (http://www.kdlt.com/news/local-news/man-killed-in-accidental-target-shooting-incident/33256654).

The week before, a three-year-old boy in Utah shot his four-year-old brother (http://www.deseretnews.com/article/865629124/Police-Toddler-accidentally-shot-in-foot-by-3-year-old-brother.html?pg=all), and

another three-year-old boy, this time in Florida, shot his one-year-old sister (http://www.dailyjournal.net/view/story/fdb04e817b814f2a8b4468625882f2ef/FL--Toddler-Shoots-Sibling) in the face, in front of their preschool.

Day after day, week after week, the list goes on.

By a back of the envelope calculation, the death toll starts to look like a Sandy Hook every few weeks.

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/toddlers-are-shooting-each-other-we-don-t-need-guns-in-schools-20150602?page=2

[boutons_deux]

Large majority of Americans -- including gun owners -- support stronger gun policies

A large majority of Americans--including gun owners--continue to support stronger policies to prevent gun violence than are present in current federal and most state law, according to a new national public opinion survey conducted by researchers with the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research at the Bloomberg School of Public Health.

The survey is a follow-up to one conducted by the same researchers in early 2013, shortly after the shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut that left 26 dead.

The results are published online in Preventive Medicine.

"Two years after the tragedy in Newtown, our study of public support for two dozen specific gun policies found a large majority of Americans continue to favor a range of gun-safety policies," says lead study author Colleen Barry, PhD, MPP, an associate professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. "Support was strongest - with little difference between gun-owners and non-owners - for universal background checks, barring people with temporary restraining orders for domestic violence from having guns and stronger regulations of licensed gun dealers."

Support for requiring background checks for all gun sales remained high, with 85 percent of gun owners and 83 percent of non-owners favoring the policy. In the 2013 survey, 84 percent of gun owners and 90 percent of non-owners supported background checks for all gun sales. Support for banning assault weapons among all respondents decreased from 69 percent in 2013 to 63 percent in 2015, and support for banning the sale of large capacity ammunition magazines decreased from 68 percent to 60 percent. Notably, the small erosion in support for these policies occurred almost entirely among non-gun-owners.

The 2015 national survey was conducted two years from the date the 2013 survey was fielded, and used the same sampling approach and survey research firm, GfK. The latest survey included 1,326 respondents, while 2013 survey included 2,703 participants.

More than 11,000 people in the United States are killed each year as a result of gun homicides, and the firearm homicide rate in the U.S. is seven times higher than in the average high-income country.

"The extraordinarily high rate of gun violence in the U.S. is due in large part to weaknesses in our standards for legal gun ownership and laws to hold individuals accountable if they put guns into the wrong hands," says study author Daniel Webster, ScD, MPH, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research. "Yet when we poll Americans, we see strong support even among gun owners for stricter standards and increased accountability."

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-06/jhub-lmo060315.php

background checks? Hell no! Freedom! 2nd Amendment! gun fellatin marans!

[TheSanityAnnex]

Large majority of Americans -- including gun owners -- support stronger gun policies

A large majority of Americans--including gun owners--continue to support stronger policies to prevent gun violence than are present in current federal and most state law, according to a new national public opinion survey conducted by researchers with the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research at the Bloomberg School of Public Health.

The survey is a follow-up to one conducted by the same researchers in early 2013, shortly after the shooting at the Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut that left 26 dead.

The results are published online in Preventive Medicine.

"Two years after the tragedy in Newtown, our study of public support for two dozen specific gun policies found a large majority of Americans continue to favor a range of gun-safety policies," says lead study author Colleen Barry, PhD, MPP, an associate professor at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. "Support was strongest - with little difference between gun-owners and non-owners - for universal background checks, barring people with temporary restraining orders for domestic violence from having guns and stronger regulations of licensed gun dealers."

Support for requiring background checks for all gun sales remained high, with 85 percent of gun owners and 83 percent of non-owners favoring the policy. In the 2013 survey, 84 percent of gun owners and 90 percent of non-owners supported background checks for all gun sales. Support for banning assault weapons among all respondents decreased from 69 percent in 2013 to 63 percent in 2015, and support for banning the sale of large capacity ammunition magazines decreased from 68 percent to 60 percent. Notably, the small erosion in support for these policies occurred almost entirely among non-gun-owners.

The 2015 national survey was conducted two years from the date the 2013 survey was fielded, and used the same sampling approach and survey research firm, GfK. The latest survey included 1,326 respondents, while 2013 survey included 2,703 participants.

More than 11,000 people in the United States are killed each year as a result of gun homicides, and the firearm homicide rate in the U.S. is seven times higher than in the average high-income country.

"The extraordinarily high rate of gun violence in the U.S. is due in large part to weaknesses in our standards for legal gun ownership and laws to hold individuals accountable if they put guns into the wrong hands," says study author Daniel Webster, ScD, MPH, director of the Johns Hopkins Center for Gun Policy and Research. "Yet when we poll Americans, we see strong support even among gun owners for stricter standards and increased accountability."

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2015-06/jhub-lmo060315.php

background checks? Hell no! Freedom! 2nd Amendment! gun fellatin marans!




I fully support background checks but are they even effective? CA, DC, Maryland???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

Nice to see the non-gun owners wisen up and start to not give a shit about "assault weapons".

If this administration couldn't pass new regs after 26 kindergartners were killed they never will.

[boutons_deux]

I fully support background checks but are they even effective? CA, DC, Maryland???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States_by_state

Nice to see the non-gun owners wisen up and start to not give a shit about "assault weapons".

If this administration couldn't pass new regs after 26 kindergartners were killed they never will.

you anecdote is as useless as they all are. NRA/GOA/gun-industry doesn't support b/g checks, so they don't get passed.

[TheSanityAnnex]

you anecdote is as useless as they all are. NRA/GOA/gun-industry doesn't support b/g checks, so they don't get passed.
Three of the places with the strictest gun control in the country have the highest gun homocide rates, how are background checks working there?

[boutons_deux]

Three of the places with the strictest gun control in the country have the highest gun homocide rates, how are background checks working there?

ah, not this shit again!

[TheSanityAnnex]

ah, not this shit again!

Stick with just California if it makes it easier for you since I live here. Why does our strict gun control not seem to work as promised?

[boutons_deux]

Stick with just California if it makes it easier for you since I live here. Why does our strict gun control not seem to work as promised?

ah, not this shit again!

1. America has 300M+ guns floating around already.

2. strict gun laws are local, guns travel anywhere.

[TheSanityAnnex]

ah, not this shit again!

1. America has 300M+ guns floating around already.

2. strict gun laws are local, guns travel anywhere.




So all the gun homicides in California are from people out of state bringing their guns here and killing us?

[boutons_deux]

So all the gun homicides in California are from people out of state bringing their guns here and killing us?

that and buying guys from private dealers, and corrupt dealers in and out of state. Your two cops killed in NYC were shot with a gun from a scumbag backwoods dealer in GA already known to NY police as supplier of criminals' guns.

[TheSanityAnnex]

that and buying guys from private dealers, and corrupt dealers in and out of state. Your two cops killed in NYC were shot with a gun from a scumbag backwoods dealer in GA already known to NY police as supplier of criminals' guns.

I'm talking about California, stay on track. Private sales in California still require a background check and an FFL, I have done many myself. You haven't convinced me the strict gun control and background checks are working very well to prevent gun homicides in California.

[boutons_deux]

I'm talking about California, stay on track. Private sales in California still require a background check and an FFL, I have done many myself. You haven't convinced me the strict gun control and background checks are working very well to prevent gun homicides in California.

I'm talking about the entire country.

You're not convinced because you'r ideologically blind as WC.

Do you think gun murders in CA are all made with guns legally obtained by the shooters? The shooters are the legal owners of their murder weapons?

[TheSanityAnnex]

I'm talking about the entire country.

You're not convinced because you'r ideologically blind as WC.

Do you think gun murders in CA are all made with guns legally obtained by the shooters? The shooters are the legal owners of their murder weapons?
You emphasized background checks so why not discuss one of the most liberal states with the strictest gun control measures? How would background checks have stopped the two scenarios you just brought up?

You are proving my point with each post. Why is CA gun homicide rate so high despite all of the strict gun control measures?

[boutons_deux]

You emphasized background checks so why not discuss one of the most liberal states with the strictest gun control measures? How would background checks have stopped the two scenarios you just brought up?

You are proving my point with each post. Why is CA gun homicide rate so high despite all of the strict gun control measures?

Because, yet fucking again, one city or state having such laws if useless if other states, if Federal level, don't restrict gun ownership. Anyway, 300M+ guns floating around and all the dickless gun fellators with manhood problems, America will remain a violent, murderous society, and be proud of it. Killing themselves and killing other countries is what defines America as sick, imperial society.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Because, yet fucking again, one city or state having such laws if useless if other states, if Federal level, don't restrict gun ownership.Do you have any links to support the claim that the majority of CA gun homicides are committed by guns acquired without a background check from out of state?



Anyway, 300M+ guns floating around and all the dickless gun fellators with manhood problems, America will remain a violent, murderous society, and be proud of it. Killing themselves and killing other countries is what defines America as sick, imperial society.Last I checked the majority of gun homicides occur in the inner-cities. Rednecks/repugs don't seem to live there so what demographic are you referring to when you say murdering dickless gun fellators?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Do you have any links to support the claim that the majority of CA gun homicides are committed by guns acquired without a background check from out of state?


Last I checked the majority of gun homicides occur in the inner-cities. Rednecks/repugs don't seem to live there so what demographic are you referring to when you say murdering dickless gun fellators?
Speaking of dickless where did boutons run off too?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Did I just /thread? :lol

[boutons_deux]

Leader Of Gun Group Praised By Ted Cruz Said The Second Amendment Was "Designed" For People Like Obama (to be assassinated)

Pratt said, "the Second Amendment was designed for people just like the president and his administration" and added that if the present government wants "to go tyrannical on us, we got something for 'em":

, yes our guns are in our hands for people like those in our government right now that think they want to go tyrannical on us, we got something for 'em. That's what it's all about. The Second Amendment is not about hunting, it's not about target shooting, it's about Democrats who want to take our rights.

Cruz opened his remarks by effusively praising GOA, saying, "GOA endorsed me early on when I ran for the Senate and played a critical part in helping get me elected and sending me from the state of Texas to represent 27 million Texans" and that supporters of GOA are "patriots":

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/06/05/leader-of-gun-group-praised-by-ted-cruz-said-th/203901

Fomenting assassination of politicians for political objectives, that's blatant, criminal terrorism (but white gun fellators skate free).

[TheSanityAnnex]

You've got some unanswered questions you dickless wimp


Do you have any links to support the claim that the majority of CA gun homicides are committed by guns acquired without a background check from out of state?



Last I checked the majority of gun homicides occur in the inner-cities. Rednecks/repugs don't seem to live there so what demographic are you referring to when you say murdering dickless gun fellators?

[TeyshaBlue]

:cry I'll post what I want to! You're not the boss of me! :cry

[boutons_deux]

:cry I'll post what I want to! You're not the boss of me! :cry

TB :lol FINALLY get some shit right :lol

[TeyshaBlue]

Yeah, I've pretty much got you pegged. :lmao

[boutons_deux]

Yeah, I've pretty much got you pegged. :lmao

I don't let anybody "peg" me.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't let anybody "peg" me.
Dickless wimp answer the questions.

[boutons_deux]

Every murder by non-cops in CA is done by registered gun owners with registered guns for which they can show the sales receipt and b/g check from a licensed gun dealer.

Furthermore, ALL the guns used in murders in CA were obtained legally and locally from licensed CA gun dealers. CA has a huge fence around it to block all illegal imports of guns.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Every murder by non-cops in CA is done mb registered gun owners with registered guns for which they can show the sales receipt and b/g check from a licensed gun dealer.

Furthermore, ALL the guns used in murders in CA were obtained legally and locally from licensed CA gun dealers. CA has a huge fence around it to block all illegal imports of guns.

Nice to see you admit background checks are not all they're cracked up to be.

you missed a question though, what demographic are you referencing when you mention the dickless gun felattors?

[boutons_deux]

US toddler kills himself with mother's gun


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33115246

[TheSanityAnnex]

US toddler kills himself with mother's gun


http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-33115246

"About 100 children die in the US every year in accidental shootings, according to data compiled by Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America."

Sad and preventable for sure but not even 1% of children who die each year.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why do you avoid posting articles about gang violence which is the leading cause of gun deaths?

[boutons_deux]

Man Discharges Gun at Waldorf Wedding Reception, Injuring 5

An unidentified man attending a wedding reception at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in Manhattan on Saturday accidentally discharged a firearm and injured five people, including one woman who was struck in the head, the police said.

Four people were rushed to hospitals, but their injuries were not severe, the police said.

a wedding guest accidentally discharged a firearm in the lobby area of the Waldorf Astoria at around 7:30 p.m. Officials said a bullet ricocheted off the floor and struck one person. Three others were struck by debris such as glass, marble and tile.

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/nyregion/waldorf-shooting.html (http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/06/14/nyregion/waldorf-shooting.html)

[boutons_deux]

Rise in accidental gunshots by L.A. County deputies follows new firearm

One sheriff's deputy shot himself in the leg while pulling out his gun to confront a suspect.

Another accidentally fired a bullet in a restroom stall. A third deputy stumbled over a stroller in a closet as he was searching for a suspect, squeezing off a round that went through a wall and lodged in a piece of furniture in the next room.

Accidental gunshots by Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies have more than doubled in two years, endangering bystanders and occasionally injuring deputies. The jump coincides with the department's move to a new handgun that lacks a safety lever and requires less pressure to pull the trigger.
http://www.trbimg.com/img-557cb9b6/turbine/la-me-g-adv-sheriff-guns-web/550/550x309


Sheriff's officials say that the increase in accidental discharges — from 12 in 2012 to 30 last year — occurred because deputies were adjusting to the new gun. They expect the numbers to fall in the years ahead. So far this year, the department has recorded seven accidental discharges, five of which involved the new weapon.

But the problems may not be over, as more deputies switch to the Smith & Wesson M&P9. In response, department officials have imposed extra training requirements.

http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-sheriff-guns-20150614-story.html#page=1

Gun crazy America, 1000s innocents lives wasted.

Some assholes intent on massacres gonna walk in to cinema, mall, etc open carry everybody everywhere all that, not challengeable by police, and start firing. eg, asshole in Georgia walking around the airport with a semi-automatic, high capacity clip?, and daring the police to challenge him.

[Splits]

Iowa open-carry nut gunned down mall worker who filed sexual harassment complaints against him

An Iowa mall cop — with a Facebook account (https://www.facebook.com/alex.winn.71) loaded with open-carry and right-wing memes and photos of multiple weapons — is under arrest for shooting and killing a fellow mall worker because she filed sexual harassment complaints against him.

According to The Gazette (http://thegazette.com/man-in-mall-shooting-returned-with-gun-20150614), Alex Kozak was taken into custody after shooting 20-year-old Andrea Farrington three times in the back while she was at work at the Iowa Children’s Museum in the Coral Ridge Mall in Coralville, Iowa.

Police say that the 22-year-old Kozak left the mall and went to his home and retrieved a 9mm Glock handgun before retuning and shooting Farrington late Friday night..
KCJJ (http://www.1630kcjj.com/Officials-Release-Name-of-Victim-in-Coral-Ridge-Ma/21632324) reports that a cousin of Farrington’s said that Kozak had been harassing the victim for at least six weeks and that she had complained to his superiors about unwanted advances he had made toward her. A later report stated that Kozak was fired from his job before the shooting took place.

“They both worked at the Coral Ridge Mall and knew each other through the Coral Ridge Mall,” Johnson County Attorney Janet Lyness said. Kozak had worked at the mall since 2014.
After shooting Farrington, Kozak fled the mall in his car but was later pulled over without incident.

Kozak — who is currently being held on $10 million bail — is married to Kellie Kozak, who recently posted pictures on her Facebook page of a visit to Costco where her husband can be seen carrying a sidearm. According to his father-in-law, Kozak didn’t always carry a weapon, saying, “If circumstances were that it’d be best not to have a weapon present, he didn’t have a problem with that.”

A selection of postings from Kozak’s Facebook page — many pulled from Right Wing News — below :
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[Th'Pusher]

I OWN Guns. But I hate the NRA (http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/29/i-love-my-guns-but-i-hate-the-nra/)

[TheSanityAnnex]

I OWN Guns. But I hate the NRA (http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/29/i-love-my-guns-but-i-hate-the-nra/)

:cry my long guns are not evil :cry

[Th'Pusher]

:cry my long guns are not evil :cry

Every. Single. Time.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I OWN Guns. But I hate the NRA (http://www.washingtonpost.com/posteverything/wp/2015/06/29/i-love-my-guns-but-i-hate-the-nra/)
I should trademark that line.

I actually quoted you and was going to say I felt the same way and never knew you owned guns. After quoting you I saw it was a link to a whiny hunter who doesn't like the NRA and didn't have the balls to say who the majority of people using handguns to murder were.

[admiralsnackbar]

I should trademark that line. I actually quoted you and was going to say I felt the same way and never knew you owned guns. After quoting you I saw it was a link to a whiny hunter who doesn't like the NRA and didn't have the balls to say who the majority of people using handguns to murder were. Guess your lack of balls prevented anyone from knowing what you're talking about specifically, but... https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2013/crime-in-the-u.s.-2013/offenses-known-to-law-enforcement/expanded-homicide/expanded_homicide_data_table_6_murder_race_and_sex _of_vicitm_by_race_and_sex_of_offender_2013.xls

[LnGrrrR]

Iowa open-carry nut gunned down mall worker who filed sexual harassment complaints against him

An Iowa mall cop — with a Facebook account (https://www.facebook.com/alex.winn.71) loaded with open-carry and right-wing memes and photos of multiple weapons — is under arrest for shooting and killing a fellow mall worker because she filed sexual harassment complaints against him.

According to The Gazette (http://thegazette.com/man-in-mall-shooting-returned-with-gun-20150614), Alex Kozak was taken into custody after shooting 20-year-old Andrea Farrington three times in the back while she was at work at the Iowa Children’s Museum in the Coral Ridge Mall in Coralville, Iowa.

Police say that the 22-year-old Kozak left the mall and went to his home and retrieved a 9mm Glock handgun before retuning and shooting Farrington late Friday night..
KCJJ (http://www.1630kcjj.com/Officials-Release-Name-of-Victim-in-Coral-Ridge-Ma/21632324) reports that a cousin of Farrington’s said that Kozak had been harassing the victim for at least six weeks and that she had complained to his superiors about unwanted advances he had made toward her. A later report stated that Kozak was fired from his job before the shooting took place.

“They both worked at the Coral Ridge Mall and knew each other through the Coral Ridge Mall,” Johnson County Attorney Janet Lyness said. Kozak had worked at the mall since 2014.
After shooting Farrington, Kozak fled the mall in his car but was later pulled over without incident.

Kozak — who is currently being held on $10 million bail — is married to Kellie Kozak, who recently posted pictures on her Facebook page of a visit to Costco where her husband can be seen carrying a sidearm. According to his father-in-law, Kozak didn’t always carry a weapon, saying, “If circumstances were that it’d be best not to have a weapon present, he didn’t have a problem with that.”

A selection of postings from Kozak’s Facebook page — many pulled from Right Wing News — below :
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FREEDOM! GOD BLESS AMERICA! IF SHE DIDN'T WANT TO BE KILLED, SHE SHOULD'VE BEEN OPEN CARRYING HERSELF! THEN HE WOULD'VE THOUGHT TWICE! FREEDOM ISN'T FREE! USA! USA! USA!

[LnGrrrR]

Democrats vision of Utopia is probably Brave New World. Republicans vision of utopia is... Mad Max? Escape from NY?

[admiralsnackbar]

Democrats vision of Utopia is probably Brave New World. Republicans vision of utopia is... Mad Max? Escape from NY? Mexico

[LnGrrrR]

Mexico

LMAO

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Guns Don't Deter Crime, Study Finds

A new study, however, throws cold water on the idea that a well-armed populace deters criminals or prevents murders. Instead, higher ownership of guns in a state (http://www.livescience.com/39754-states-with-more-guns-have-more-homicides.html) is linked to more firearm robberies, more firearm assaults and more homicide in general. [5 Milestones in Gun Control History (http://www.livescience.com/26255-milestones-gun-legislation-history.html)]

"We found no support for the hypothesis that owning more guns leads to a drop or a reduction in violent crime," said study researcher Michael Monuteaux, an epidemiologist and professor of pediatrics at Harvard Medical School. "Instead, we found the opposite."

More guns, more gun crime

Numerous studies have found that gun ownership correlates with gun homicide, and homicide by gun is the most common type of homicide in the United States. In 2013, for example, there were 16,121 total homicides in the United States, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), and 11,208 of those were carried out with a firearm. (Gun suicides (http://www.livescience.com/38605-gun-homicide-suicide-rates-united-states.html) outpace gun homicides by far; in 2013, the CDC recorded 21,175 suicides by firearm, about half of all suicides that year. Contrary to popular belief, suicide is typically an impulsive act (http://www.livescience.com/44517-suicide-prevention-research.html), psychiatrists say. Ninety percent of people who attempt suicide once will not go on to complete a suicide later (http://www.livescience.com/44388-myths-about-suicide-debunked.html), but a suicide attempt using a gun is far more lethal than other methods.)

Monuteaux and his colleagues wanted to test whether increased gun ownership had any effect on gun homicides, overall homicides and violent gun crimes. They chose firearm robbery and assault, because those crimes are likely to be reported and recorded in the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) Uniform Crime Report.

Along with that FBI data, the researchers gathered gun ownership rates from surveys in the CDC's Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, an ongoing, nationally representative survey in which participants answered questions about gun ownership in 2001, 2002 and 2004. Using those years and controlling for a slate of demographic factors, from median household income, population density, to age, race and more, the researchers compared crime rates and gun ownership levels state by state.

They found no evidence that states with more households with guns led to timid criminals.

In fact, firearm assaults were 6.8 times more common in states with the most guns versus states with the least.

Firearm robbery increased with every increase in gun ownership except in the very highest quintile of gun-owning states (the difference in that cluster was not statistically significant).

Firearm homicide was 2.8 times more common in states with the most guns versus states with the least. [Private Gun Ownership in the US (Infographic) (http://www.livescience.com/17737-private-gun-ownership-infographic.html)]

http://www.livescience.com/51446-guns-do-not-deter-crime.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Livesciencecom+%28LiveScience .com+Science+Headline+Feed%29

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Conservative Media Link Chicago's Crime Wave To Strong Gun Laws, Ignoring Higher Murder Rates In "Gun-Friendly" Cities
http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2015/07/07/chicagonola.jpg

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/07/07/conservative-media-link-chicagos-crime-wave-to/204285

[m>s]

Hey Boutox I have a question for you here

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=250415&p=8101811#post8101811

[TheSanityAnnex]

Hey Boutox I also have an unanswered question for you here

Last I checked the majority of gun homicides occur in the inner-cities. Rednecks/repugs don't seem to live there so what demographic are you referring to when you say murdering dickless gun fellators?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Conservative Media Link Chicago's Crime Wave To Strong Gun Laws, Ignoring Higher Murder Rates In "Gun-Friendly" Cities


http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2015/07/07/chicagonola.jpg

http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/07/07/conservative-media-link-chicagos-crime-wave-to/204285

That would be a really fascinating chart if they would have also listed these cities race demographics huh boutons?

[Th'Pusher]

That would be a really fascinating chart if they would have also listed these cities race demographics huh boutons?
Or the socioeconomic status of the offenders.

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Pregnant woman shot in the face in Fresno County road rage attack

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-pregnant-woman-shot-20150803-story.html

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Open Carry Dude Assaults Wife, Kills Two Sons, Keeps Second Amendment Safe

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Shawn-fuller.jpg

In what would, in a sane nation, be a national outrage, a responsible lover of the Second Amendment murdered his two little boys, (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/north-carolina-open-carry-advocate-shoots-and-kills-toddler-sons-after-domestic-dispute/) aged three and four, before turning the gun on himself and not quite managing to commit suicide.

In a sane nation, there might also be something shocking about this being the second time since December (http://wonkette.com/568975/responsible-open-carry-advocate-shot-up-her-family-we-guess-they-must-have-been-bad) that a vocal open-carry advocate has shot family members to death.

But we live in America, so it’s just one more story that we’ll read, shake our heads at, and perhaps wonder if it’s ever going to be time to talk about guns.

...

So it sure sounds like Shawn Fuller was just a typical American gun-humper, albeit perhaps a more frequently liquored-up version of the standard model. His sudden drunken murder of his children shouldn’t be blamed on guns, of course — he could have killed them any number of ways, as our deleted commenters are sure to remind us.

And most gun owners aren’t angry drunks, or at least we hope they aren’t. But Shawn Fuller had a gun handy when he was drunk and angry, and it sure is remarkable how often that combination ends up with somebody dead and a mother sobbing.

Still, the super-patriot open-carry gun-humpers are right about one thing: The Second Amendment ensured that Josiah Fuller and Uriah Fuller won’t ever have to live under a tyrannical, out-of control government that crushes their liberty.

http://wonkette.com/592820/open-carry-dude-assaults-wife-kills-two-sons-keeps-second-amendment-safe

[SpursforSix]

Open Carry Dude Assaults Wife, Kills Two Sons, Keeps Second Amendment Safe



In what would, in a sane nation, be a national outrage, a responsible lover of the Second Amendment murdered his two little boys, (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/north-carolina-open-carry-advocate-shoots-and-kills-toddler-sons-after-domestic-dispute/) aged three and four, before turning the gun on himself and not quite managing to commit suicide.

In a sane nation, there might also be something shocking about this being the second time since December (http://wonkette.com/568975/responsible-open-carry-advocate-shot-up-her-family-we-guess-they-must-have-been-bad) that a vocal open-carry advocate has shot family members to death.

But we live in America, so it’s just one more story that we’ll read, shake our heads at, and perhaps wonder if it’s ever going to be time to talk about guns.

...

So it sure sounds like Shawn Fuller was just a typical American gun-humper, albeit perhaps a more frequently liquored-up version of the standard model. His sudden drunken murder of his children shouldn’t be blamed on guns, of course — he could have killed them any number of ways, as our deleted commenters are sure to remind us.

And most gun owners aren’t angry drunks, or at least we hope they aren’t. But Shawn Fuller had a gun handy when he was drunk and angry, and it sure is remarkable how often that combination ends up with somebody dead and a mother sobbing.

Still, the super-patriot open-carry gun-humpers are right about one thing: The Second Amendment ensured that Josiah Fuller and Uriah Fuller won’t ever have to live under a tyrannical, out-of control government that crushes their liberty.

http://wonkette.com/592820/open-carry-dude-assaults-wife-kills-two-sons-keeps-second-amendment-safe





So would you ban cars as well? Lots of people get drunk and kill people while driving. Way more than drunk shootings.

[Th'Pusher]

So would you ban cars as well? Lots of people get drunk and kill people while driving. Way more than drunk shootings.
Hey man, you got any straw? I'm looking for the good stuff, not that Mexican dirt straw.

[SpursforSix]

Hey man, you got any straw? I'm looking for the good stuff, not that Mexican dirt straw.

Ask Boutons. He always has plenty.

[Splits]

So would you ban cars as well? Lots of people get drunk and kill people while driving. Way more than drunk shootings.

:lmao are you fucking retarded? How many people ride their gun to work?

[Blizzardwizard]

:lmao are you fucking retarded? How many people ride their gun to work?

Everytime a pro-gun nut answers with 'would you ban cars as well?' a puppy is dropkicked off the Grand Canyon.

[SpursforSix]

:lmao are you fucking retarded? How many people ride their gun to work?

that chick from the L.A. Guns album

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NRA: 200+ Hate Crimes Committed With Guns "Not Freaking Happening Often Enough To Merit Mention"

The National Rifle Association's online magazine attacked an analysis of federal data that found that more than 200 hate crimes were committed with firearms between 2011 and 2013, writing that the number is not "enough to merit mention." The gun group also falsely claimed that the data in question "shows firearms are not being used in hate crimes." The NRA's stunning statements come less than two months after a white man shot to death nine African-American parishioners at a historically black church in South Carolina, in what authorities have classified as a racially-motivated attack.

An Aug. 12 article (http://www.americas1stfreedom.org/articles/2015/8/12/no-trace-of-truth-gun-hating-justifies-race-baiting/) in the NRA's online magazine, America's 1st Freedom, headlined, "Gun Hating Justifies Race-Baiting," accuses The Trace of "twisting federal data to taint guns with the most radioactive subject in American politics: race" because it published an article that analyzed federal hate crime data to determine how many incidents involved guns.

Although only recently launched, The Trace -- an online venture that describes itself as "an independent, nonprofit media organization dedicated to expanding coverage of guns in the United States" -- has quickly become a target for criticism (http://www.americas1stfreedom.org/search/?q=%20The%20Trace) by NRA-run media, which span online, print, and radio. (Though editorially independent, The Trace received part of its seed funding from Everytown for Gun Safety, whose founder, Michael Bloomberg, is perhaps the NRA's top adversary in the gun debate.)

In an Aug. 10 article (http://www.thetrace.org/2015/08/hate-crimes-race-assault-data-guns/), The Trace analyzed data from the FBI's National Incident-Based Reporting System (NIBRS) and found that between 2011 and 2013, 207 hate crimes involving firearms were reported. As The Trace notes -- and even the NRA acknowledges -- only around one-third of police departments in the country report this type of data to the FBI. In addition to hate crimes that go unreported, this means that the total number of hate crimes committed with guns is very likely greater than the number of incidents in the NIBRS.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/13/nra-200-hate-crimes-committed-with-guns-not-fre/204924

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Police more likely to be killed on duty in states with high gun ownership


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Camden and Newark, New Jersey, are perceived as two of the most violent cities in the nation, yet New Jersey's police officersare among the least likely to get shot on the job.

Montana, with its serene landscapes and national parks, has among the highesthomicide rates for law enforcement officers. Why?

Across all 50 states and the District of Columbia, homicides of police officers are linked to the statewide level of gunownership, according to a new study published in the American Journal of Public Health.

The study found that police officersserving in states with high private gun ownership are more than three times more likely to be killed on the job than those on thejob in states with the lowest gun ownership.

Previous studies have linked firearm ownership with higher overall firearm death rates in the United States and internationally.

Until now, none of the studies have examined the increased risk to law enforcement personnel.

"If we're interested in protecting police officers, we need to look at what's killing them, and what's killing them is guns," saysthe study's lead author, David Swedler, research assistant professor of environmental and occupational health sciences in theUniversity of Illinois at Chicago School of Public Health.

"We know that 92 percent of police officers killed in the line of duty are killed by guns, three*quarters of which are handguns,"Swedler said.Swedler and his colleagues looked at the homicide rates of police officers by state between 1996 and 2010 using data from theFederal Bureau of Investigation database, which logs every officer killed in the line of duty.

Law enforcement homicide rateswere calculated as the number of officers killed by guns per number of officers employed in each state.8/13/2015 Police more likely to be killed on duty in states with high gun ownershiphttp://phys.org/print358681887.html 2/2

Statewide gun ownership rates were calculated using the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, an annual nationwidesurvey that collects data over a wide range of health topics (including household firearm ownership) as well as state*level dataon gun*related suicides, which have been proven to accurately reflect gun ownership rates.

Of the 782 homicides of police officers over the study period, 716 were committed using guns; 515 of them with handguns.

States averaged one law enforcement officer homicide per year, but because states vary in the number of officers employed,some had higher numbers of officer homicides, while other states had none.

On average, the researchers found that 38 percent of U.S. households have at least one gun, ranging from 4.8 percent ofhouseholds in the District of Columbia to 62 percent in Wyoming.Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Mississippi and Montana were in the top quintile both for gun ownership and for law enforcementhomicides, while Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island were in the lowest quintile for gunownership and police officer homicides.

"We found that officers aren't being killed in states with high violent*crime rates.

While violent crime rates didn't track closelyto officer homicide rates, it was public gun ownership that had the strongest relationship," Swedler said.

"Hypothetically, officers might be put at increased risk if they are more frequently encountering violent criminals, but our datadoesn't find that to be the case," said Swedler.

"We find that officers are at an increased risk for being killed the morefrequently they encounter guns in public settings."

Swedler says that one reason why high gun ownership and police officer killing are so closely linked is that many officers getshot while responding to domestic disturbance calls.

"Research shows that responding to domestic violence calls are one of the most common situations in which officers are killed.In states where firearms are more prevalent, officers responding to reports of domestic violence are more often enteringpotentially lethal situations compared to officers responding to such calls in states with lower firearm prevalence," Swedlersaid.Based on their data, Swedler and his colleagues estimate that a 10 percent higher statewide firearm ownership would haveresulted in 10 more law enforcement officer homicides in each state over the 15 year study period.

"Statewide firearm ownership is definitely a risk factor for police officers," Swedler said. "Higher private gun ownershipincreases the frequency with which officers encounter life*threatening situations. If we care about the safety of those officers,then we need to think about them when considering state gun laws."

http://phys.org/news/2015-08-police-duty-states-high-gun.html

[TheSanityAnnex]

Police more likely to be killed on duty in states with high gun ownership


http://cdn.phys.org/newman/csz/news/800/2015/55ccaec32b632.png

Camden and Newark, New Jersey, are perceived as two of the most violent cities in the nation, yet New Jersey's police officersare among the least likely to get shot on the job.

Montana, with its serene landscapes and national parks, has among the highesthomicide rates for law enforcement officers. Why?

Across all 50 states and the District of Columbia, homicides of police officers are linked to the statewide level of gunownership, according to a new study published in the American Journal of Public Health.

The study found that police officersserving in states with high private gun ownership are more than three times more likely to be killed on the job than those on thejob in states with the lowest gun ownership.

Previous studies have linked firearm ownership with higher overall firearm death rates in the United States and internationally.

Until now, none of the studies have examined the increased risk to law enforcement personnel.

"If we're interested in protecting police officers, we need to look at what's killing them, and what's killing them is guns," saysthe study's lead author, David Swedler, research assistant professor of environmental and occupational health sciences in theUniversity of Illinois at Chicago School of Public Health.

"We know that 92 percent of police officers killed in the line of duty are killed by guns, three*quarters of which are handguns,"Swedler said.Swedler and his colleagues looked at the homicide rates of police officers by state between 1996 and 2010 using data from theFederal Bureau of Investigation database, which logs every officer killed in the line of duty.

Law enforcement homicide rateswere calculated as the number of officers killed by guns per number of officers employed in each state.8/13/2015 Police more likely to be killed on duty in states with high gun ownershiphttp://phys.org/print358681887.html 2/2

Statewide gun ownership rates were calculated using the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System, an annual nationwidesurvey that collects data over a wide range of health topics (including household firearm ownership) as well as state*level dataon gun*related suicides, which have been proven to accurately reflect gun ownership rates.

Of the 782 homicides of police officers over the study period, 716 were committed using guns; 515 of them with handguns.

States averaged one law enforcement officer homicide per year, but because states vary in the number of officers employed,some had higher numbers of officer homicides, while other states had none.

On average, the researchers found that 38 percent of U.S. households have at least one gun, ranging from 4.8 percent ofhouseholds in the District of Columbia to 62 percent in Wyoming.Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Mississippi and Montana were in the top quintile both for gun ownership and for law enforcementhomicides, while Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey, New York and Rhode Island were in the lowest quintile for gunownership and police officer homicides.

"We found that officers aren't being killed in states with high violent*crime rates.

While violent crime rates didn't track closelyto officer homicide rates, it was public gun ownership that had the strongest relationship," Swedler said.

"Hypothetically, officers might be put at increased risk if they are more frequently encountering violent criminals, but our datadoesn't find that to be the case," said Swedler.

"We find that officers are at an increased risk for being killed the morefrequently they encounter guns in public settings."

Swedler says that one reason why high gun ownership and police officer killing are so closely linked is that many officers getshot while responding to domestic disturbance calls.

"Research shows that responding to domestic violence calls are one of the most common situations in which officers are killed.In states where firearms are more prevalent, officers responding to reports of domestic violence are more often enteringpotentially lethal situations compared to officers responding to such calls in states with lower firearm prevalence," Swedlersaid.Based on their data, Swedler and his colleagues estimate that a 10 percent higher statewide firearm ownership would haveresulted in 10 more law enforcement officer homicides in each state over the 15 year study period.

"Statewide firearm ownership is definitely a risk factor for police officers," Swedler said. "Higher private gun ownershipincreases the frequency with which officers encounter life*threatening situations. If we care about the safety of those officers,then we need to think about them when considering state gun laws."

http://phys.org/news/2015-08-police-duty-states-high-gun.html




police lives matter to boutons when it fits his agenda lol

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gun fellators perverse, WRONG interpretation of the 2nd Amendment trumps cops' and anybodys' lives.

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A Culture Clash Over Guns Infiltrates the Backcountry

Shotgun shells. Bullets. Shredded juniper trees. Exploded cans of spray paint.

“It’s all been shot,” he said. “It’s just destroying everything.”

America’s cultural divide over guns has gone into the woods. As growing numbers of hikers and backpackers flood national forests and backcountry trails searching for solitude, they are increasingly clashing with recreational target shooters, out for the weekend to plug rounds into trees, targets and mountainsides.

Hiking groups and conservationists say that policies that broadly allow shooting and a scarcity of enforcement officers have turned many national forests and millions of Western acres run by the Bureau of Land Management into free-fire zones. People complain about finding shot-up couches and cars deep in forests, or of being pinned down by gunfire where a hiking or biking trail crosses a makeshift target range.

http://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/08/13/us/14GUNSWEB4/14GUNSWEB4-articleLarge.jpg

Over the Fourth of July weekend in Pike National Forest in Colorado, a 60-year-old camper preparing to make s’mores with his grandchildren was killed when a stray bullet arced into his campsite. The camper, Glenn Martin, said “ow,” his daughter said, and when his family ran to help him, there was a hole in his shirt and blood pouring from his mouth.

“A war zone,” said Paul Magnuson, who owns a cycle shop in Woodland Park, Colo., and rides mountain bikes in the same forest where Mr. Martin died. His customers have complained about bullets whistling overhead, and Mr. Magnuson said he has gotten used to yelling out to alert target shooters that he was coming.

“Every time in the woods, you feared for your life,” he said. “It was absolutely, completely out of hand.”

http://graphics8.nytimes.com/newsgraphics/2015/08/13/forest-shootings/52a30d37d775b39750e6432c4ad770282f413c97/forestguns_noIR-720.png

The violation logs from the bureau are a tally of risky behavior: Shooting from vehicle. Weapon discharge in campground. Shooting at television. Using exploding targets.

Shooting in “no shooting area.”

“All you can do is hear it,” he said. “Like a mixture of thunder and gunfire, just rolling through the mountains.”

want to permanently ban shooting (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAN6xQIYKrI) because they say it is jeopardizing hundreds of petroglyphs that Native Americans pecked onto sandstone outcroppings and boulders as long as 10,000 years ago. Advocates say the mountainside is an open-air museum, one where bullets have struck the petroglyphs, chipping and cracking the runic swirls and wiry images of people and animals.

“We’ve had serious damage,” said Kevin Oliver, district manager for the bureau’s West Desert district. “The shooting was so dense we had to do something.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/19/us/a-culture-clash-over-guns-infiltrates-the-backcountry.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

"With small dicks and small brains comes great destruction"

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'Patriot' guarding 'Muslim free' gun store accidentally shoots himself (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/19/1413473/--Patriot-guarding-Muslim-free-gun-store-accidentally-shoots-himself)

The Save Yourself Survival and Tactical Gear store and gun range has had a string of ugly incidents after declaring they are "Muslim free": (http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/local/sign-at-muskogee-county-survivalist-store-gun-range-proclaims-establishment/article_6ecad16f-04d2-5986-8b54-0506261e1c21.html)


“We do not want to have any jihadis training on our gun range and then going down to our local armed services office and having better marksmanship than they showed up with,” said Neal, an Iraq War veteran. “I’ve seen what Muslims and jihadis do to people. It’s just not going to happen in my store.”

Several residents of tiny Oktaha, Oklahoma (population 390 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oktaha,_Oklahoma)) have turned out to stand in front of the store and guard it with loaded weapons. Yesterday, one of these men accidentally shot himself while "on guard": (http://www.muskogeephoenix.com/news/checotah-man-accidentally-shoots-self-while-guarding-store/article_bdef6cb6-45f8-11e5-8676-d37a877e4cba.html)


A Checotah man shot himself in the wrist while "defending" a survival gear store and shooting range in Oktaha, said Muskogee County Sheriff Charles Pearson.Terrence Veninga, 57, was volunteering Tuesday morning as an armed guard with several other self-described patriots at the Save Yourself Survival and Tactical Gear store and gun range, a self-professed Muslim-free store.

His gun, an old Colt .45 revolver, fell from its bucket holster and discharged. The bullet hit him in the wrist, Pearson said. Veninga was guarding the store because of alleged threats against it, Pearson said.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/19/1413473/--Patriot-guarding-Muslim-free-gun-store-accidentally-shoots-himself?detail=email

:lol

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NRA Smears Martin O'Malley As A Friend To Criminals With First 2016 Campaign Magazine Cover


http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2015/08/21/nracoveromalley.jpg

The National Rifle Association's magazine America's 1st Freedom attacks Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley on its first cover focused on the 2016 presidential race. The issue's feature article outlandishly accuses the former Maryland governor of offering "hope and change to convicted killers and criminals," but the organization's overheated rhetoric is based on unfounded attacks on O'Malley's record.

The September edition (http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/nra/aff_201509/#/0) of the magazine features a cover characterizing O'Malley, who served as governor of Maryland from 2007 to 2015, as a "menace" to the Second Amendment who has "made a mockery of Maryland's gun rights":

The NRA's feature attacks O'Malley on two fronts,

claiming that he poses a threat to Second Amendment rights and

accusing him of taking the side of criminals in Maryland -- even though courts have sided with O'Malley on gun laws and violent crime fell significantly during his tenure as governor.

Angered by O'Malley's strong support for a package of gun safety laws (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/omalley-plans-to-sign-maryland-gun-control-transportation-bills-thursday/2013/05/15/c988e70c-bd95-11e2-89c9-3be8095fe767_story.html) enacted in Maryland in 2013 following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, the NRA claims O'Malley "imposed the most draconian new gun bans anywhere in the country" before offering attacks from the top two members of NRA leadership.

NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre is quoted in the article claiming O'Malley "has presided over some of the most spectacular, bloody and brutal failures of 'gun control' in our nation's history," while NRA top lobbyist Chris Cox suggests O'Malley becoming president could trigger "a fight for the survival of Second Amendment freedom as we know it."

The NRA also objects to O'Malley's response to the massacre of nine parishioners in a historically African-American Charleston, South Carolina, church in June, sneering that the former Maryland governor acted "decidedly un-presidential" when he wrote an email to supporters declaring he was "pissed" about inaction on gun violence while calling for bans on assault weapons and stronger background checks on gun sales.

Despite the gun group's suggestion O'Malley is jeopardizing the Second Amendment, as the article itself notes, the package of Maryland gun safety laws was upheld by a federal court.

Indeed, according to (https://www.scribd.com/doc/236628112/Baltimore-District-Court-gun-ruling) the United States District Court for the District of Maryland, gun safety laws signed by O'Malley are "constitutional" because they "substantially serve[] the government's interest in protecting public safety ... without significantly burdening" Second Amendment rights.

Furthermore gun safety laws like those signed by O'Malley, including handgun licensing and bans on assault weapons, are routinely upheld (http://smartgunlaws.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2014-for-web.pdf) as consistent with the Second Amendment by courts.

The second prong of the NRA's attack characterizes O'Malley as weak on crime, arguing, "As governor of Maryland, O'Malley doubled down on some of the same failed crime policies that he had instituted in Baltimore."

Violent crime actually fell 27.3 percent (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-omalley-legacy-20150119-story.html#page=1) in Maryland while O'Malley was governor. Crime in Baltimore also fell (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-martin-omalleys-criminal-justice-policies-help-hurt-baltimore/)significantly (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-martin-omalleys-criminal-justice-policies-help-hurt-baltimore/) while O'Malley was mayor between 1999 and 2007.

Given this fact, the NRA stretches believability in its crime-related attacks on O'Malley. In one section the NRA nonsensically links O'Malley to a judicial decision that overturned convictions for several murderers (emphasis original): "Moreover, in 2013, a ruling by the Maryland Supreme Court resulted in convicted murderers being released from one end of 'The Free State' to the other, including more than a dozen killers in Baltimore alone. Nonetheless, Gov. O'Malley boasted in a State of the State Address that the Maryland prison population had fallen to the lowest point in decades under his leadership."

As the head of Maryland's executive branch, O'Malley of course had no control over Maryland's highest court, which is actually called the Court of Appeals, not the Maryland Supreme Court. In any case, the overturned convictions dealt with cases pre-dating 1980 (http://www.abc2news.com/news/state/maryland-high-court-ruling-paves-way-for-release-of-murderers) -- when O'Malley would have been 17-years-old -- where judges had instructed juries in a manner that violated the defendant's right to a fair trial.

The NRA concludes its attack on O'Malley's record on crime by claiming that as governor he "was quick to offer hope and change to convicted killers and criminals" and that "he also did his best to take away the last, best hope of innocent, law-abiding citizens to protect themselves from those criminals."

In one final unhinged attack that ties together claims about O'Malley on gun policy and crime, the NRA riffs on O'Malley's comments on "Black Lives Matter" to argue that "the lives that apparently don't matter to O'Malley are those of law-abiding citizens":

In June, speaking to the United States Conference of Mayors' annual gathering in San Francisco--where the current mayor of Baltimore, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, was sworn in as president of the organization--O'Malley said, "One of the sad triumphs of white racism is the degree to which it has succeeded in subconsciously convincing so many of us, black and white, that somehow black lives don't matter."
In truth, the lives that apparently don't matter to O'Malley are those of law-abiding citizens--no matter what their background.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/21/nra-smears-martin-omalley-as-a-friend-to-crimin/205084



Like the Repugs LYING and SLANDERING to rouse their rabble, the NRA/GOA groups LIE AND SLANDER to lather up the ignorance of sicko gun fellatin marans.

[TheSanityAnnex]

NRA Smears Martin O'Malley As A Friend To Criminals With First 2016 Campaign Magazine Cover


http://cloudfront.mediamatters.org/static/uploader/image/2015/08/21/nracoveromalley.jpg

The National Rifle Association's magazine America's 1st Freedom attacks Democratic presidential candidate Martin O'Malley on its first cover focused on the 2016 presidential race. The issue's feature article outlandishly accuses the former Maryland governor of offering "hope and change to convicted killers and criminals," but the organization's overheated rhetoric is based on unfounded attacks on O'Malley's record.

The September edition (http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/nra/aff_201509/#/0) of the magazine features a cover characterizing O'Malley, who served as governor of Maryland from 2007 to 2015, as a "menace" to the Second Amendment who has "made a mockery of Maryland's gun rights":

The NRA's feature attacks O'Malley on two fronts,

claiming that he poses a threat to Second Amendment rights and

accusing him of taking the side of criminals in Maryland -- even though courts have sided with O'Malley on gun laws and violent crime fell significantly during his tenure as governor.

Angered by O'Malley's strong support for a package of gun safety laws (http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/md-politics/omalley-plans-to-sign-maryland-gun-control-transportation-bills-thursday/2013/05/15/c988e70c-bd95-11e2-89c9-3be8095fe767_story.html) enacted in Maryland in 2013 following the Sandy Hook Elementary School massacre, the NRA claims O'Malley "imposed the most draconian new gun bans anywhere in the country" before offering attacks from the top two members of NRA leadership.

NRA executive vice president Wayne LaPierre is quoted in the article claiming O'Malley "has presided over some of the most spectacular, bloody and brutal failures of 'gun control' in our nation's history," while NRA top lobbyist Chris Cox suggests O'Malley becoming president could trigger "a fight for the survival of Second Amendment freedom as we know it."

The NRA also objects to O'Malley's response to the massacre of nine parishioners in a historically African-American Charleston, South Carolina, church in June, sneering that the former Maryland governor acted "decidedly un-presidential" when he wrote an email to supporters declaring he was "pissed" about inaction on gun violence while calling for bans on assault weapons and stronger background checks on gun sales.

Despite the gun group's suggestion O'Malley is jeopardizing the Second Amendment, as the article itself notes, the package of Maryland gun safety laws was upheld by a federal court.

Indeed, according to (https://www.scribd.com/doc/236628112/Baltimore-District-Court-gun-ruling) the United States District Court for the District of Maryland, gun safety laws signed by O'Malley are "constitutional" because they "substantially serve[] the government's interest in protecting public safety ... without significantly burdening" Second Amendment rights.

Furthermore gun safety laws like those signed by O'Malley, including handgun licensing and bans on assault weapons, are routinely upheld (http://smartgunlaws.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/2014-for-web.pdf) as consistent with the Second Amendment by courts.

The second prong of the NRA's attack characterizes O'Malley as weak on crime, arguing, "As governor of Maryland, O'Malley doubled down on some of the same failed crime policies that he had instituted in Baltimore."

Violent crime actually fell 27.3 percent (http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/bs-md-omalley-legacy-20150119-story.html#page=1) in Maryland while O'Malley was governor. Crime in Baltimore also fell (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-martin-omalleys-criminal-justice-policies-help-hurt-baltimore/)significantly (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/did-martin-omalleys-criminal-justice-policies-help-hurt-baltimore/) while O'Malley was mayor between 1999 and 2007.

Given this fact, the NRA stretches believability in its crime-related attacks on O'Malley. In one section the NRA nonsensically links O'Malley to a judicial decision that overturned convictions for several murderers (emphasis original): "Moreover, in 2013, a ruling by the Maryland Supreme Court resulted in convicted murderers being released from one end of 'The Free State' to the other, including more than a dozen killers in Baltimore alone. Nonetheless, Gov. O'Malley boasted in a State of the State Address that the Maryland prison population had fallen to the lowest point in decades under his leadership."

As the head of Maryland's executive branch, O'Malley of course had no control over Maryland's highest court, which is actually called the Court of Appeals, not the Maryland Supreme Court. In any case, the overturned convictions dealt with cases pre-dating 1980 (http://www.abc2news.com/news/state/maryland-high-court-ruling-paves-way-for-release-of-murderers) -- when O'Malley would have been 17-years-old -- where judges had instructed juries in a manner that violated the defendant's right to a fair trial.

The NRA concludes its attack on O'Malley's record on crime by claiming that as governor he "was quick to offer hope and change to convicted killers and criminals" and that "he also did his best to take away the last, best hope of innocent, law-abiding citizens to protect themselves from those criminals."

In one final unhinged attack that ties together claims about O'Malley on gun policy and crime, the NRA riffs on O'Malley's comments on "Black Lives Matter" to argue that "the lives that apparently don't matter to O'Malley are those of law-abiding citizens":

In June, speaking to the United States Conference of Mayors' annual gathering in San Francisco--where the current mayor of Baltimore, Stephanie Rawlings-Blake, was sworn in as president of the organization--O'Malley said, "One of the sad triumphs of white racism is the degree to which it has succeeded in subconsciously convincing so many of us, black and white, that somehow black lives don't matter."
In truth, the lives that apparently don't matter to O'Malley are those of law-abiding citizens--no matter what their background.

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2015/08/21/nra-smears-martin-omalley-as-a-friend-to-crimin/205084



Like the Repugs LYING and SLANDERING to rouse their rabble, the NRA/GOA groups LIE AND SLANDER to lather up the ignorance of sicko gun fellatin marans.









Speaking of the NRA I just picked this up yesterday. Ruger 10-22 takedown NRA edition.
http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/22_zpsnyvnz4ux.jpg


Got this folding buttstock on it's way as well.
http://i1311.photobucket.com/albums/s679/thefuzzylumpkins/22fold_zps9fwe3glm.jpg

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Road Raging Florida Man Points Gun at a Mom and Her Son, Ends Up Accidentally Shooting Himself


http://www.alternet.org/culture/road-raging-florida-man-points-gun-mom-and-her-son-ends-accidentally-shooting-himself

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GunFAIL report
Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dumb: GunFAIL CXXXVIII (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/19/1418947/-Don-t-Tell-Mom-the-Babysitter-s-Dumb-GunFAIL-CXXXVIII)


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Six of the 41 guns discovered by TSA agents at airports around the country during the week of September 4 through September 10, 2015.



More of the usual.

Seventeen people accidentally shot themselves.

Five people accidentally fired bullets into their neighbors' homes or properties.

Two people accidentally discharged weapons while out shopping or dining.

Three people injured themselves at shooting ranges.

Two people accidentally discharged still-loaded guns they were cleaning—one shooting himself, the other shooting someone else.

Like I said: More of the usual. Though on the "bright" side, only six kids were the victims of GunFAIL last week, and only two of them were fatally shot. Mind you, that's a "good" week.

One of the more unusual stories in the collection this week: A GunFAIL without a gun. Now, you might think that a GunFAIL without a gun doesn't belong here. But it takes a special kind of FAIL for a gunless incident to make our list. In this case, what's even more interesting than the fact that a bullet was dropped at a gun range and hit the floor at just the perfect (and rather improbable) angle so as to explode and give the dropper a shrapnel wound, is that we've actually seen this before. Exactly the same thing happened (http://www.yourcentralvalley.com/news/kgpe-local-news/woman-injured-at-shooting-range) just under a year ago at a range in Lemoore, California. It's almost as if all GunFAIL—even bizarre GunFAIL, and even bizarre, gunless GunFAIL—is still somehow cyclical. Though admittedly, I have yet to see anothertoaster accident (http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/region-pinellas/woman-was-wounded-in-the-breast-when-toaster-over-heated-up-and-bullet-exploded).

I have, however, seen this (http://www.bozemandailychronicle.com/news/man-shoots-himself-while-spinning-gun-on-his-finger/article_f6a6891d-2869-5c73-9b20-6b9beaef9829.html) one several times before (http://www.al.com/news/mobile/index.ssf/2015/08/theodore_man_fatally_shoots_fr.html): Yet another wannabe cowboy who doesn't know that spinning a gun on your finger (http://www.progressnewspaper.org/Content/News/News/Article/Cowboy-gun-trick-results-in-gunshot-wound-warrants/198/1182/190526) is something you can only (but still shouldn't) do with a single-action revolver, and not just any gun.

And in a new twist on an old favorite (that is, the bathroom GunFAIL) is our title entry, in which the world's worst babysitter (http://www.trivalleycentral.com/casa_grande_dispatch/year-old-casa-grande-boy-accidentally-shot-by-babysitter/article_daeef4c4-565d-11e5-839e-df55606fd670.html), unable to safely manage the .45 tucked into his waistband (standard babysitting equipment, as we all know), accidentally fired his weapon straight through the bathroom wall and straight into his 8-year-old charge, who until then was sleeping peacefully in his bed. Sorry about that! Ten dollars off your next bill, Mom and Dad!

A full recounting of the week's failures is below.

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/09/19/1418947/-Don-t-Tell-Mom-the-Babysitter-s-Dumb-GunFAIL-CXXXVIII?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+dailykos%2Findex+%28Daily+Kos %29#

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Why Would a Nine-Year-Old Bring a Gun to School?

Since the start of the school year, more than two dozen kids have been caught bringing firearms to class.

Last week, a teacher at Amanda Elementary School in Middletown, Ohio,found a loaded handgun (http://www.wlwt.com/news/9yearold-in-juvenile-detention-after-bringing-loaded-gun-to-school/35286734) inside the backpack of a 9-year-old boy while helping him clean out his locker. The incident triggered a lockdown, and the unidentified boy, who reportedly stole (http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/student-who-brought-gun-to-school-has-been-in-trou/nnfrf/) his parents’ car twice this summer, was placed in a juvenile detention facility and charged with illegal possession of a deadly weapon and firearm theft.
When a student so young brings a deadly weapon to school, a number of questions arise:

How did they get their hands on it?

Why wasn’t it safely stored?

Will the parents be charged?

And what would make a child bring a gun to school in the first place?

Since the school year began roughly one month ago, there have been at least 29 incidents in which elementary, middle school, and high school students were caught bringing firearms to school, according to a survey of media reports. Most have involved teenagers.

http://www.thetrace.org/2015/09/gun-to-school-child-firearm/

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DOG shoots MAN: Brave pooch halts hapless puppy execution

A man attempting to shoot seven puppies got a taste of his own medicine when he was instead shot by one of the dogs.

According to the Associated Press (http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5950304#.VgF88GRVhBf), Jerry Allen Bradford, of Florida, decided to shoot the dogs after failing to find a home for them.

Bradford was holding two of the pups, when one dog in his hand wiggled and put its paw on the trigger. The gun then discharged, reported AP.

He was later treated at a hospital for a gunshot wound to his wrist.

Deputies found three of the puppies in a shallow grave outside Bradford’s home, sheriff’s Ted Roy told the AP.

The other four appeared to be in good health and were taken by Escambia County Animal Control, which planned to make them available for adoption said the report.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/22/dog_shoots_man/

[TheSanityAnnex]

Why Would a Nine-Year-Old Bring a Gun to School?

Since the start of the school year, more than two dozen kids have been caught bringing firearms to class.

Last week, a teacher at Amanda Elementary School in Middletown, Ohio,found a loaded handgun (http://www.wlwt.com/news/9yearold-in-juvenile-detention-after-bringing-loaded-gun-to-school/35286734) inside the backpack of a 9-year-old boy while helping him clean out his locker. The incident triggered a lockdown, and the unidentified boy, who reportedly stole (http://www.daytondailynews.com/news/news/crime-law/student-who-brought-gun-to-school-has-been-in-trou/nnfrf/) his parents’ car twice this summer, was placed in a juvenile detention facility and charged with illegal possession of a deadly weapon and firearm theft.
When a student so young brings a deadly weapon to school, a number of questions arise:

How did they get their hands on it?

Why wasn’t it safely stored?

Will the parents be charged?

And what would make a child bring a gun to school in the first place?

Since the school year began roughly one month ago, there have been at least 29 incidents in which elementary, middle school, and high school students were caught bringing firearms to school, according to a survey of media reports. Most have involved teenagers.

http://www.thetrace.org/2015/09/gun-to-school-child-firearm/
That is a bad mofo 9 year old

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White Man Trying to Buy Gun Shoots Self in Penis, Blames it On a Black Guy

South Dakota man is currently in custody after telling police officers he was shot in the penis by a “black guy” when he actually shot himself while attempting to purchase a gun illegally,

Convicted felon Donald Anthony Watson, 43, was admitted to a local emergency room late at night on Sept. 6 for a gunshot wound to his penis, and told local law enforcement that he had been shot during a botched robbery.

According to the arrest report, Watson said he was shot by “a black guy (who) tried to rob” him while he was taking out the trash at his apartment.
Investigators who went to Watson’s apartment said there was no evidence of a shooting outside, but neighbors told them they heard screaming coming from his apartment earlier in the evening.

After obtaining a search warrant, officer entered his home and found blood, bullet fragments, and an empty gun case.

Pressed by police, Watson admitted that he made the story up and was looking at a handgun he was thinking about buying and placed it in his pocket where it went off, with the bullet hitting his genitals.

http://www.alternet.org/culture/white-man-trying-buy-gun-shoots-self-penis-blames-it-black-guy

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Texas ‘good guy with a gun’ shoots carjacking victim in head — then runs away

Houston police say that an armed man’s attempt to stop a carjacking went terribly wrong on Saturday night when he shot the vehicle’s owner in the head, then fled the scene.According to KHOU Channel 11 News (http://www.khou.com/story/news/2015/09/27/one-man-injured-after-carjacking-shooting-at-gas-station/72923278/), the shooting took place around 11:15 p.m. at a Valero gas station in north Houston.

Police officials say that two men jumped the owner of a Chevrolet pickup truck and absconded with his vehicle.

As the men struggled with the car-owner, a passerby produced a gun and fired multiple shots, missing the thieves but striking the victim in the head.

The shooter quickly gathered up his shell casings from the pavement and fled the scene.

The injured man was rushed to a nearby hospital where he is currently in stable condition.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/texas-good-guy-with-a-gun-shoots-carjacking-victim-in-head-then-runs-away/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

[boutons_deux]

'No open carry' signs are likely to trigger next Texas gun debate

The next tussle over Texas’ new open carry law is likely to come over one of its more mundane requirements: signs.

Starting in January, licensed Texans will be able to openly carry handguns in belt or shoulder holsters. Business owners who want patrons to leave their weapons behind will have to post one new large sign and revise one they already have.

No one considers the new rules to be a monumental burden, but some worry property owners could be caught off guard.

The signs must meet strict rules on appearance, wording and text size. :lol

And with some gun owners eager to take advantage of signs that aren’t exactly correct, critics of the law fear that businesses will bear the brunt of battles over the measure.

“It’s ridiculous,” said Rep. Poncho Nevárez, an Eagle Pass Democrat who pushed unsuccessfully this year to make the signs easier to post. “The intent of the business owner is disregarded.”

Many open carry supporters consider the concern, like many others, overblown.

Business owners, regardless of what signs they post, will still be able to orally tell gun carriers they are not welcome. And some boosters argue the vast majority of gun owners in Texas will honor businesses’ request — even if a sign isn’t exactly to spec.

“Most gun owners respect private property rights,” said Open Carry Texas leader C.J. Grisham.

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/state-politics/20150621-signs-barring-open-carrying-trigger-the-next-texas-gun-debate.ece

gun fellators are fuckin sickos

[DMX7]

Open Carry Dude Assaults Wife, Kills Two Sons, Keeps Second Amendment Safe

http://img.wonkette.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Shawn-fuller.jpg

In what would, in a sane nation, be a national outrage, a responsible lover of the Second Amendment murdered his two little boys, (http://www.rawstory.com/2015/08/north-carolina-open-carry-advocate-shoots-and-kills-toddler-sons-after-domestic-dispute/) aged three and four, before turning the gun on himself and not quite managing to commit suicide.

In a sane nation, there might also be something shocking about this being the second time since December (http://wonkette.com/568975/responsible-open-carry-advocate-shot-up-her-family-we-guess-they-must-have-been-bad) that a vocal open-carry advocate has shot family members to death.

But we live in America, so it’s just one more story that we’ll read, shake our heads at, and perhaps wonder if it’s ever going to be time to talk about guns.

...

So it sure sounds like Shawn Fuller was just a typical American gun-humper, albeit perhaps a more frequently liquored-up version of the standard model. His sudden drunken murder of his children shouldn’t be blamed on guns, of course — he could have killed them any number of ways, as our deleted commenters are sure to remind us.

And most gun owners aren’t angry drunks, or at least we hope they aren’t. But Shawn Fuller had a gun handy when he was drunk and angry, and it sure is remarkable how often that combination ends up with somebody dead and a mother sobbing.

Still, the super-patriot open-carry gun-humpers are right about one thing: The Second Amendment ensured that Josiah Fuller and Uriah Fuller won’t ever have to live under a tyrannical, out-of control government that crushes their liberty.

http://wonkette.com/592820/open-carry-dude-assaults-wife-kills-two-sons-keeps-second-amendment-safe




We don't have a problem with guns, we have a problem with mental health issues. :lol

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We don't have a problem with guns, we have a problem with mental health issues. :lol

guns enable mental sickos to be murderous or suicidal sickos.

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obviously just another mentally ill crazy, a bad apple, not your avg angelic, heavily, expertly trained, rational, restrained gun fellator

ATF agent arrested at Texas high school football game for assaulting man and waving gun at crowd

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/09/atf-agent-arrested-at-texas-high-school-football-game-for-assaulting-man-and-waving-gun-at-crowd/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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...

[TheSanityAnnex]

http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/100315-beltway-Image-Two.jpg


The Mother Jones/Vox claim that states with the highest gun ownership rates also have the highest gun murder rates is bullshit.

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http://s3.amazonaws.com/content.washingtonexaminer.biz/web-producers/100315-beltway-Image-Two.jpg


The Mother Jones/Vox claim that states with the highest gun ownership rates also have the highest gun murder rates is bullshit.

add in accidental gun deaths, suicides, and ALWAYS: more guns = more gun violence, deaths.

[Splits]

http://wkrn.com/2015/10/04/8-year-old-girl-dies-in-east-tenn-shooting-police-arrest-11-yr-old-suspect/

Guns don't kill people, children kill people...

And why are they arresting an 11 year old child and not the parent who gave access to a shotgun?


8-year-old girl dies in east Tenn. shooting; Police arrest 11-yr-old suspect



WHITE PINE, Tenn. (WATE (http://wate.com/2015/10/04/8-yr-old-girl-dies-in-white-pine-shooting-police-arrest-11-yr-old-suspect/)) – A shooting Sunday morning in White Pine left an 8-year-old girl dead and an 11-year-old boy arrested on first-degree murder charges.

Jefferson County Sheriff G.W “Bud” McCoig said the boy shot the girl in the chest with a 12-gauge shotgun from inside his home along Robin Road. Sheriff McCoig added that the gun belonged to the boy’s father. The boy’s name is not being released at this time.

https://mgtvwkrn.files.wordpress.com/2015/10/mckayladyer.jpg?w=300&h=168

According to her mother, Latasha Dyer, McKayla was found lying on the ground with a gunshot wound to her chest. She was taken to Morristown-Hamblen hospital, where she later died.
“She was a precious little girl, she was a mommy’s girl, no matter how bad of a mood you were in she could always make you smile,” Dyer said.

She added that her daughter was outside playing when her next door neighbor, an 11-year-old boy, asked to see her puppy. She said her daughter told the boy “no,” and shortly after the, 11-year-old boy shot her. The shooting wasn’t the first time their family had problems with the boy, according to Dyer.

“When we first moved to White Pine, the little boy was bullying McKayla,” she said.

“He was making fun of her, calling her names just being mean to her. I had to go the principal about him and he quit for a while and then all of a sudden yesterday he shot her.”

WATE reached out to the boy’s family for comment, but received no answer. Dyer said she’s heartbroken and their entire family is devastated.

“I want her back in my arms, this is not fair, hold and kiss you’re babies every night because you’re never promised the next day with them,” said Dyer.

“I hope the little boy learned his lesson because he took my baby’s life and I can’t get her back.”

Both children were White Pine Elementary students, according to Sheriff McCoig.

[tbdog]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awgs0burFTk

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11-Year-Old Boy Kills 12-Year-Old Brother In Target-Shooting Accident

A 12-year-old boy from South Carolina was shot and killed Friday by his younger brother during a target-shooting outing, according to CantonRep.com. (http://www.cantonrep.com/article/20151005/NEWS/151009705)


“It was an accident,” county Sheriff Dale Williams said Monday, according to the report. “It (shooter) was a juvenile. It was a brother. His brother was 11 years old.”

The victim, Joseph Baily, suffered a head wound from a handgun and was pronounced dead on the scene. The family was visiting a range in Ohio, according to the report.

Although the shooting was ruled accidental, local authorities could file charges against whoever left the weapon unsecured.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/target-shooting-south-carolina-accident?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

Freedom!

2nd Amendment!

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http://images.dailykos.com/images/168766/large/campuscarry720.png?1444084361

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Michigan woman with concealed carry permit opens fire at alleged Home Depot shoplifters

Police in Auburn Hills, Michigan are investigating whether or not to charge a conceal carry permit holder who opened fire at alleged shoplifters at a Home Depot store.

According to The Detroit News (http://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/oakland-county/2015/10/06/customer-fires-shoplifting-suspect-auburn-hills-home-depot/73467882/), the 47-year-old woman was watching from the store’s parking lot on Tuesday as a loss prevention officer appeared to be trying to stop a shoplifter.

When the suspects tried to flee in a dark SUV, the woman pulled out her concealed 9mm handgun and began shooting.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/michigan-woman-with-concealed-carry-permit-opens-fire-at-alleged-home-depot-shoplifters/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

attempted murder, get her to prison for a decade at least

[ducks]

lol she shot the tires not at the lady

[ducks]

chi has more killings then anywhere in usa and has the toughest gun law
blacks shooting blacks
I would bet mostly over drugs and pussy

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Citing concerns with campus carry, professor emeritus to withdraw from University (of Texas) (http://www.dailytexanonline.com/2015/10/07/citing-concerns-with-campus-carry-professor-emeritus-to-withdraw#.VhaMD9vG_mk.twitter)


Published on October 7, 2015
BY SAMANTHA KETTERER (http://www.dailytexanonline.com/author/samantha-ketterer)

Economics professor emeritus Daniel Hamermesh will withdraw from his position next fall, citing concerns with campus carry legislation.

The law will allow the concealed carry of guns in campus buildings beginning Aug. 1, 2016. Hamermesh said he is not comfortable with the risk of having a student shoot at him in class. He teaches a course with 475 students enrolled, according to a letter Hamermesh wrote Sunday to UT President Gregory Fenves.

“With a huge group of students, my perception is that the risk that a disgruntled student might bring a gun into the classroom and start shooting at me has been substantially enhanced by the concealed-carry law,” Hamermesh wrote in the letter.

Hamermesh, who said he is under contract to teach his course in fall 2016 and fall 2017, said he will complete the semester at UT and will teach at the University of Sydney next fall.

Hamermesh said he thinks the legislation will impact the University’s ability to draw new faculty and staff to work at UT.

“My guess is somebody thinking about coming to Texas is going to think twice about being a professor here,” Hamermesh said. “It’s going to make it more difficult for Texas to compete in the market for faculty.”

Hamermesh has taught at several universities since 1969, and his research has been published in more than 100 scholarly journals, according to the Economics Department.

Megan Burke, a psychology sophomore in Hamermesh’s class, said she thinks UT will lose a great professor in Hamermesh because of the new campus carry policy.

“I am really sad that professor Hamermesh will be leaving UT,” Burke said. “Hamermesh is a great professor with a lot of experience and is highly respected in his community, so it is a shame that he will be leaving UT. I do agree with his reasoning to leave, because campus carry does put him at a higher risk, so it makes sense that he would teach at a ‘safer’ university."

University spokesperson Gary Susswein said the University is continuing to work with a campus carry working group to determine how to implement the law on campus, including determining possible locations of gun-free zones.

“We understand the concerns that Dr. Hamermesh and other faculty members have raised about their classroom and ask that the campus community continue to work with University leadership in developing policies for implementing this new state law,” Susswein said.

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“With a huge group of students, my perception is that the risk that a disgruntled student might bring a gun into the classroom and start shooting at me has been substantially enhanced by the concealed-carry law,” Hamermesh wrote in the letter.

So before the concealed carry law this same disgruntled student would not have brought a gun on campus to shoot him because that would have been illegal :lol what a fucking moron

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“With a huge group of students, my perception is that the risk that a disgruntled student might bring a gun into the classroom and start shooting at me has been substantially enhanced by the concealed-carry law,” Hamermesh wrote in the letter.

So before the concealed carry law this same disgruntled student would not have brought a gun on campus to shoot him because that would have been illegal :lol what a fucking moron

with a LOT MORE guns on campus, MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE

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with a LOT MORE guns on campus, MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE
^that's just VLWC talking...

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with a LOT MORE guns on campus, MORE GUNS = MORE GUN VIOLENCE

How many times are you going to ignore the facts

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How many times are you going to ignore the facts



:lol silly bitch. gun violence = homicides + suicides + accidental gun deaths + ALL non-fatal injuries from gun shots.

in USA, avg of 90 gun deaths PER DAY, plus probably 2 or 3 times that PER DAY in gun shot injuries.

It's a fucking fucked up country, in large part due to you gun-crazy gun fellators, the NRA/GOA/gun-industry, and the corrupt politician whores hired to loosen or block all gun regulations.

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:lol silly bitch. gun violence = homicides + suicides + accidental gun deaths + ALL non-fatal injuries from gun shots.

in USA, avg of 90 gun deaths PER DAY, plus probably 2 or 3 times that PER DAY in gun shot injuries.

It's a fucking fucked up country, in large part due to you gun-crazy gun fellators, the NRA/GOA/gun-industry, and the corrupt politician whores hired to loosen or block all gun regulations.
Suicides account for 60%+ of gun deaths and should be discussed separately if you want to talk about gun violence, imo. The highest group committing suicide by gun are 65+ year old men, consider it a cheaper version of assisted suicide which I'm sure you are in favor of.

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Suicides account for 60%+ of gun deaths and should be discussed separately

nope, excessively easy access to guns enables way too many easy, successful suicides.

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nope, excessively easy access to guns enables way too many easy, successful suicides.
lol VLWC

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Dallas Cowboys fans urge gunman to shoot helpless man in the head during tailgating brawl — and he does

The New York Daily News reported (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-shot-head-tailgate-fight-cowboys-game-article-1.2393577) that the shooting took place at AT&T stadium in Arlington about an hour after the New England Patriots beat the Dallas Cowboys 30-6.

Witnesses reported that the two men got into an argument, which escalated to a fistfight. Then, as the gunman held his weapon to the head of the victim, the crowd urged him to shoot, which he did.

Paramedics and police were called to the scene and the unnamed victim, a male in his early 40s, was taken to a local hospital with life-threatening injuries.

The shooter was apprehended by police after he tripped over a low retaining wall and injured his leg while trying to flee the scene.

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/dallas-cowboys-fans-urge-gunman-to-shoot-helpless-man-in-the-head-during-tailgating-brawl-and-he-does/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

fucking TX, polluted with dickless gun fellators and Christian Taliban

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Boy, 10, fatally shot in Utah hunting accident: authorities

create memories, enjoy nature, and bring family and friends closer,

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/12/us-usa-utah-boy-idUSKCN0S61LN20151012?feedType=RSS&feedName=domesticNews

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South Carolina 2-year-old shoots grandma in the back after finding .357 revolver in car

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/south-carolina-2-year-old-shoots-grandma-in-the-back-after-finding-357-revolver-in-car/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

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Chicago 6-year-old shot and killed 3-year-old brother with father’s new gun: police
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/chicago-6-year-old-shot-and-killed-3-year-old-brother-with-fathers-new-gun-police/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Just 100% acceptable collateral damage from pumping up gun industry profits behind the perverse interpretation and charade of 2nd Amendment BULLSHIT

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Chicago 6-year-old shot and killed 3-year-old brother with father’s new gun: police


http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/chicago-6-year-old-shot-and-killed-3-year-old-brother-with-fathers-new-gun-police/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

Just 100% acceptable collateral damage from pumping up gun industry profits behind the perverse interpretation and charade of 2nd Amendment BULLSHIT




Gang member acquired gun illegally from other gang member and is now facing two felony charges. He'll pay dearly for the collateral damage.

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Gang member acquired gun illegally from other gang member and is now facing two felony charges. He'll pay dearly for the collateral damage.

... because you gun fellators have enabled flooding the USA with 300M+ guns to enrich the gun industry.

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Kansas Man Accidentally Shoots Himself In Leg During Movie

A man accidentally shot himself in the leg during a Friday night showing of "Maze Runner: The Scorch Trials" in the central-Kansas city of Salina.

Cody Deneault, 24, was adjusting the handgun in his pants pocket during the film when it went off, according to the Salina Post (http://salinapost.com/2015/10/19/update-on-movie-theater-shooting/) on Monday.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/salina-kansas-movie-theater-accidental-shooting?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+tpm-news+%28TPMNews%29

safety off, cocked, loaded? :lol

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South Carolina man arrested with almost 10,000 stolen guns


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“He was hoarding most of it, but it’s all stolen material from all over numerous counties

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Texas woman with a concealed gun accidentally shoots a patient in her doctor's office (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/23/1437874/-Texas-woman-with-a-concealed-gun-accidentally-shoots-a-patient-in-her-doctor-s-office)

A witness told KCEN's sister station 12News that a woman was in the waiting room of a medical office. When she reached into her purse to pull out some paperwork, a gun fell out of her purse causing it to discharge. The round went through a wall and hit another patient in the hip.Bobby Pressley was in the waiting room when it happened.

"Everyone was sitting in the waiting room and there was a gun shot. A woman dropped her purse down on the counter and it shot through the wall and shot another lady," said Pressley.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/10/23/1437874/-Texas-woman-with-a-concealed-gun-accidentally-shoots-a-patient-in-her-doctor-s-office

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South Carolina man arrested with almost 10,000 stolen guns


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“He was hoarding most of it, but it’s all stolen material from all over numerous counties

http://www.rawstory.com/2015/10/south-carolina-man-arrested-with-almost-10000-stolen-guns/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29
i dont think anybody on spurstalk advocates illegal ownership of firearms

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i dont think anybody on spurstalk advocates illegal ownership of firearms

gun fellators enable flooding the country with 300M+ guns, and lots of gun dealers, private dealers provide guns to illegal or straw buyers.

"we don't support illegal ownership" is bullshit, just like the charades of "freedom, liberty, 2nd Amendment", because any attempt to regulate gun selling, even collection of gun usage, gun violence, is immediately obstructed. In fucking AZ, even gun buybacks must be put back on the market rather than destroyed.

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Except many of us here (including TSA) are advocates of stronger background checks aka regulation

I believe in personal accountability. If I make the effort to obtain a gun and shoot somebody, I deserve punishment, not the shmucks who manufactured the weapon. There could be 800 million guns in the country. It's still me who made the conscious decision to obtain and use one.

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Except many of us here (including TSA) are advocates of stronger background checks aka regulation

I believe in personal accountability. If I make the effort to obtain a gun and shoot somebody, I deserve punishment, not the shmucks who manufactured the weapon. There could be 800 million guns in the country. It's still me who made the conscious decision to obtain and use one.

watch the NRA/GOA/gun industry BLOCK Obama's attempt to impose the slightest regulation this week.

10Ms of cosplay gun fellators belong to and support the NRA/GOA/gun industry "no regulation, no limit, guns everywhere for everyone all the time" perverted 2nd Amendment bullshit.

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gun fellators enable flooding the country with 300M+ guns, and lots of gun dealers, private dealers provide guns to illegal or straw buyers.

"we don't support illegal ownership" is bullshit, just like the charades of "freedom, liberty, 2nd Amendment", because any attempt to regulate gun selling, even collection of gun usage, gun violence, is immediately obstructed. In fucking AZ, even gun buybacks must be put back on the market rather than destroyed.

https://www.atf.gov/file/11896/download

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How many guns are in America? A web of state secrecy means no one knows

The American Public Health Association joins the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence in a national summit in Washington DC to tackle gun violence. They describe the issue as “one of the biggest public health issues facing America”.

But you wouldn’t know it from looking at the state of gun research.

Ask one of the dozen or so (http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1661391)active firearms researchers in the United States, and they won’t be able to answer the fundamental question: how many guns are in America?
In addition to a 1996 ban on federal funding for firearms research that is cited as one of the most onerous obstacles to treating gun violence as a public health issue, states have passed dozens of laws that make once-public data on gun ownership confidential.

The best available data comes from a private survey by the University of Chicago (http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/10/us/rate-of-gun-ownership-is-down-survey-shows.html), not the federal government, and that is still an estimate.

“There are lots of holes in actually having any data on the number of guns in our communities,” said Fred Rivara, head of pediatrics at the Harborview Injury Prevention and Research Center and Seattle Children’s Hospital and a firearms researcher for almost three decades. “You look at, well, are people with mental health problems more likely to have guns, or are people with past problems more likely to have guns, we don’t know because we don’t have that data.”

States have not made the job easier.

From Florida to Maine to West Virginia to Wyoming, a variety of provisions have exempted concealed-carry permit data from public disclosure or stopped permitting altogether. For researchers, these provisions make it impossible to study guns within a given zip code or cohorts of owners who might have run-ins with the law.

“The fact of the matter is we know how many people own cars, we know the identity of every car in the United States … Yet we don’t know who owns guns, and we don’t know how many guns there are in the United States,” said Rivara.

“When I first started in gun research back in 1987, we could actually go down to the state capitol in Olympia [Washington] and identify through state records at that point who owns guns,” said Rivara. “That ability was subsequently removed.”

As of 2013, 28 states (https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news-media-law/news-media-and-law-winter-2013/chart-gun-permit-data-acces), including Washington, don’t allow access to gun permit records. Some states, such as Vermont, Wyoming and Kansas, removed permitting requirements. Iowa has worked for years (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2015/03/02/iowa-gun-permits-secret/24260991/)to make gun permit data more secretive. Two counties in the state lent the legislature a hand by destroying all permit applications (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/03/12/iowa-gun-permit-applications-destroyed/1980869/).

New York tightened public access to gun permits after a newspaper north of New York City published a map of permit holders’ names and addresses (http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2012/12/26/gun-database-draws-criticism/1791507/). In the past five years dozens of laws have exempted concealed-carry permits and applications and gun licenses from public disclosure or made them confidential.

Take one state as an example: Louisiana.

Louisiana has the second-worst firearms death rate in the country, according to theKaiser Family Foundation (http://kff.org/other/state-indicator/firearms-death-rate-per-100000/), topped only by Alaska. In 2013, 19.3 people per 100,000 died because of a firearms-related injury for every 100,000 people in the state. That rate is equivalent to 14.7 people dying at a single New Orleans Saints football game (where the stadium seats roughly 76,000).

The same year, in addition to repealing state bans on machine guns, legislators made concealed-carry permit records confidential (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2013/12/10/us/state-gun-laws-enacted-in-the-year-since-newtown.html?_r=0)and allowed for issuance of lifetime concealed-carry permits. At its most basic level, that means researchers will never know how many concealed-carry permit holders, including those licensed for life, there are in the state.

But that wasn’t far enough for legislators in the state. Louisiana lawmakers also made it a misdemeanor criminal offense (http://gov.louisiana.gov/index.cfm?md=newsroom&tmp=detail&articleID=4109)to release information about concealed-carry permit holders – levying a $500 fine and up to six months in jail for any department of public safety and corrections employee who releases such records, and a $10,000 fine and six months in jail for anyone else who releases that information.

Firearms dealers in Louisiana are also not required to retain background checks or sales records (http://smartgunlaws.org/category/state-retention-of-gun-records/page/2/), meaning that if a dealer chooses not to record such transactions there is no way for researchers (or anyone else) to trace guns or oversee the efficacy of background checks.

Some federal data has also disappeared. A firearms trace database (http://www.propublica.org/article/five-federal-policies-on-guns-you-never-heard-of)operated by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives once used to publicly shame gun retailers who sold to criminals was made confidential in the early 2000s. And the FBI is required to destroy all background checks (http://articles.baltimoresun.com/2013-02-05/news/bs-md-sun-investigates-guns-20130204_1_tiahrt-amendment-gun-trace-data-gun-research).

These state and federal restrictions have compounded challenges for the already-barren field of gun research, which has been barred from federal funding.

In 2013, following the massacre of 20 children and six staff members at Sandy Hook elementary school in Connecticut, Barack Obama signed an executive order that was supposed to lift the ban on firearms research. Congress, however, turned down the president’s request to fund the research.

In firearms violence research, this has been the state of affairs since 1996. At a time when gun violence was among the highest in American history, Congress defunded firearms research and passed a provision many researchers believe had a deep, chilling effect on the pursuit of answers.

At the time, a series of papers funded by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention became a hot-button issue after scientists began to view gun violence as a public health issue.

One such paper was co-authored by Rivara in 1993. Gun Ownership as a Risk Factor for Homicide in the Home (http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199310073291506#t=articleDiscussion)was published in the New England Journal of Medicine, and found that gun owners were more likely to be the victims of homicide, than protected from it. This research drew particular ire in Congress.

“We have here an attempt by the CDC, through the [National Center for Injury Prevention and Control] a disease control agency of the federal government [trying] to bring about gun control advocacy all over the United States,” Arkansas Republican representative Jay Dickey (http://www.npr.org/2015/10/09/447098666/ex-rep-dickey-regrets-restrictive-law-on-gun-violence-research)told colleagues during a hearing on his namesake amendment.

The rider, stipulating that “none of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the [CDC] may be used to advocate or promote gun control”, would stop research into gun violence for the next two decades.

The CDC, Dickey argued, was trying “to raise emotional sympathy for those people who are for gun control”. Congress also yanked $2.6m in funding from the CDC, even as 1.1 million Americans fell victim to gun crime that year alone (In 2011, 439,100 were victims).

Even Democrats acquiesced to Dickey’s amendment. Lobbying colleagues to restore funding, New York Democrat Nita Lowey told House colleagues (http://www.c-span.org/video/?c4547293/cdc-funding): “Our amendment preserves language in the bill which prohibits the CDC from advocating or promoting gun control.”

“The NRA opposes the CDC injury control research because it wants to suppress the awful truth about gun violence. The NRA simply does not want the facts getting out. It is no more than censorship. It must be stopped,” Lowey said.

Despite her efforts, Dickey’s amendment passed, and firearms research ground to a halt. Nineteen years later, in the wake of a mass shooting (http://www.thetrace.org/2015/06/cdc-funding-gun-violence-rider/)inside a church in Charleston, South Carolina, Lowey lobbied for the removal of the same rider she had once been willing to live with to restore funding.

“Preventing research because you worry about the outcome is cowardly,” she said at a hearing (http://www.thetrace.org/2015/06/cdc-funding-gun-violence-rider/), before Congress re-upped (again) the requirement that the CDC not lobby for gun control.

Now, despite $130m in “ violence research (http://report.nih.gov/categorical_spending_project_listing.aspx?FY=2014&ARRA=N&DCat=Violence%20Research)” grants awarded by the National Institutes of Health (http://report.nih.gov/categorical_spending.aspx), no studies explicitly looked at firearms. Nor did any of the $59m in grants devoted to “ youth violence (http://report.nih.gov/categorical_spending_project_listing.aspx?FY=2014&ARRA=N&DCat=Youth%20Violence)” or the $16m that went to “ youth violence prevention (http://report.nih.gov/categorical_spending_project_listing.aspx?FY=2014&ARRA=N&DCat=Youth%20Violence%20Prevention)”.

“The lack of research has been so detrimental because not only do we not have the research funding, another thing I think that’s really important is that it’s been a huge blow to the trained workforce,” said Susan Sorenson, a researcher at the University of Pennsylvania who studies gun violence as a public health issue.

In the United States, researchers are required to generate their own grant funding for projects, including for lab time, salaries and equipment.

“If there’s no funding, that researcher simply is not going to have a job, so they go into fields that are more heavily funded – cancer, tobacco, HIV – simply because they too need to be able, like all humans, to eat, to have a place to live,” Sorenson said.

As scientists struggle to rebuild a field Sorenson called “nascent”,

some surprising funding streams have stepped forward.

The Seattle city council funded research studying whether people who go to the hospital for gunshots were likely to later be the victims of violence (they are). The Chicago-based Joyce Foundation (http://www.joycefdn.org/programs/gun-violence-prevention/)is cited by researchers as one of the only private foundations willing to provide money for research and firearms researcher Dr Gary Wintemute donated about $1.1m of his own money to fund his research.

“Better data, and data systems, are needed. Interventions must be evaluated, and those evaluations must help guide further efforts,” wrote Wintemute in an editorial for the Journal of the American Medical Association (http://archinte.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1661391#ref-iic130013-2). “Until we revitalize firearm violence research, studies using available data will often be the best we have. They are not good enough.”

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South Bay man shoots self in foot, hits boy downstairs in bed


http://m.sfgate.com/news/article/South-Bay-man-shoots-self-in-foot-hits-boy-6595576.php

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What are you trying to accomplish with all of your spamming? Serious question

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What are you trying to accomplish with all of your spamming? Serious question

serious answer: G F Y

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serious answer: G F Y
Honestly, what good comes of your spamming? Do you believe you are saving lives? Do you believe we don't know guns are dangerous?

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How Gun Traffickers Get Around State Gun Laws



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In California, some gun smugglers use FedEx. In Chicago, smugglers drive just across the state line into Indiana, buy a gun and drive back.

In Orlando, Fla., smugglers have been known to fill a $500 car with guns and send it on a ship to crime rings in Puerto Rico.

In response to mass shootings in the last few years,

more than 20 states, including some of the nation’s biggest, have passed new laws (http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/state-gun-laws-after-newtown) restricting how people can buy and carry guns.

Yet the effect of those laws has been significantly diluted by a thriving underground market for firearms brought from states with few restrictions.

About 50,000 guns are found to be diverted to criminals across state lines every year, federal data (https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/data-statistics) shows, and many more are likely to cross state lines undetected.

In New York and New Jersey, which have some of the strictest laws in the country, more than two-thirds of guns tied to criminal activity were traced to out-of-state purchases in 2014. Many were brought in via the so-called Iron Pipeline, made up of Interstate 95 and its tributary highways, from Southern states with weaker gun laws, like Virginia, Georgia and Florida.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2015/11/12/us/100000004033335.mobile.html

2nd Amendment! :lol

Freedom! :lol

Water the Tree! :lol

.... ALL BULLSHIT to cover the gun industry profits

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South Carolina Gun Violence


South Carolina’s rates of gun crime are among the worst in the nation.


South Carolina is the fourth-deadliest state for gun homicide: There were 5.31 gun murders for every 100,000 people in the state in 2013, 47 percent higher than the national average of 3.61 gun murders per 100,000 people.
At nearly 2.5 times more than the national average, South Carolina has the third-worst rate of aggravated assault with a firearm in the country.

The number of South Carolina residents who have been victims of gun violence is staggering.


From 2004 through 2013, there were 6,461 people killed by guns in South Carolina. That is 20 percent more than all U.S. combat deaths in the Iraq and Afghanistan wars combined.
As of 2013, someone is killed with a gun every 14 hours in the state, and an aggravated assault with a firearm occurs every 1.5 hours.

Fatal altercations between law enforcement officers and civilians are common in South Carolina.


The rate at which law enforcement officers are feloniously killed with guns in the state is 10th worst in the nation. Between 2005 and 2014, 10 law enforcement agents were murdered by guns.
With a rate 30 percent higher than the national average, South Carolina ranks 12th in terms of incidents in which police officers fatally shot civilians from January to November 2015.

Women in South Carolina face an extraordinarily high risk of fatal domestic violence, and access to firearms is a significant driver of those deaths.


In the most recent 10-year period—2004 through 2013—South Carolina ranked fourth worst in the nation for the rate at which women are murdered by guns, 75 percent above the national norm.
On the narrower indicator of fatal domestic violence committed against women with a gun between 2004 and 2013, South Carolina ranks as the worst state and has the highest rate of these murders of any state in the country.

South Carolina has some of the weakest gun laws in the nation.


The Law Center to Prevent Gun Violence gives South Carolina an “F” for having enacted few gun laws.
This organization gives South Carolina 14 out of 100 possible points on its 2014 state rankings.

Weak laws make South Carolina a favorite state for illegal gun traffickers to purchase guns.


South Carolina has the fifth-highest rate of crime gun exports—guns sold in South Carolina that are later used in crimes in other states—in the country.
On this key marker of illegal gun trafficking, the state had a rate of interstate crime gun trafficking that was 88 percent higher than the national average from 2012 to 2014.

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/guns-crime/report/2015/11/24/126233/south-carolina-gun-violence/

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7-year-old girl killed at MI soccer practice after ‘paranoid’ man with concealed carry license opens fire


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A 7-year-old girl died at soccer practice Thursday night and a family friend who had been experiencing paranoia is accused of shooting her in the head before taking his own life.

Emma Nowling and her mother, Sharon Watson, were shot after the little girl’s soccer practice session at the Taylor Sportsplex in Michigan. Watson is listed in serious but stable condition, while Nowling died Thursday night after suffering head injuries,MLive.com reports (http://www.mlive.com/news/detroit/index.ssf/2015/12/7-year-old_dead_mother_in_seri.html). Authorities describe the suspect, Timothy Nelson Obeshaw, as a family friend who had a concealed carry permit and a legally-purchased gun.

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Just one dead "watering the tree of libertee" out of the 90 avg gun deaths PER DAY in Good Ol' USA.

[Pelicans78]

That's fucked up and then the motherfucker shoots himself.

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[TheSanityAnnex]

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Awesome happy family

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Awesome happy family

you're all a bunch to total, clinical psychos.

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Gun homicides in Poland
are about as common as deaths from
bicycle riders being hit by cars
in the United States.

In Germany, for example, about two out of every million people are fatally shot by another person each year — making such events as uncommon there as the campers’ deaths in Yosemite. Gun homicides are just as rare in several other European countries, including the Netherlands and Austria. In the United States, two per million is roughly the death rate forhypothermia (http://health.nytimes.com/health/guides/injury/hypothermia/overview.html?inline=nyt-classifier) or plane crashes.

These comparisons help highlight how exceptional the United States is. Here, where the right to bear arms is cherished by much of the population, gun homicides are a significant public health concern. For men 15 to 29, they are the third leading cause of death, after accidents and suicides. In other high-income countries, gun homicides are unusual events. The recent Paris attacks killed 130 people (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/01/world/europe/for-survivors-of-paris-attacks-mental-scars-may-outlast-wounds.html?smid=tw-share), which is nearly as many as die from gun homicides in all of France in a typical year. But even if France had a mass shooting as deadly as the Paris attacks every month, its annual rate of gun homicide death would be lower than that in the United States.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/upshot/in-other-countries-youre-as-likely-to-be-killed-by-a-falling-object-as-a-gun.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

you dickless, bloody-handed gun fellators are a PUBLIC HEALTH DISASTER.

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End the Gun Epidemic in America

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD

DECEMBER 4, 2015


All decent people feel sorrow and righteous fury about the latest slaughter of innocents, in California. Law enforcement and intelligence agencies are searching for motivations, including the vital question of how the murderers might have been connected to international terrorism. That is right and proper.

But motives do not matter to the dead in California, nor did they in Colorado, Oregon, South Carolina, Virginia, Connecticut and far too many other places. The attention and anger of Americans should also be directed at the elected leaders whose job is to keep us safe but who place a higher premium on the money and political power of an industry dedicated to profiting from the unfettered spread of ever more powerful firearms.

It is a moral outrage and a national disgrace that civilians can legally purchase weapons designed specifically to kill people with brutal speed and efficiency. These are weapons of war, barely modified and deliberately marketed as tools of macho vigilantism and even insurrection.

America’s elected leaders offer prayers for gun victims and then, callously and without fear of consequence, reject the most basic restrictions on weapons of mass killing, as they did on Thursday (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/04/opinion/tough-talk-and-a-cowardly-vote-on-terrorism.html). They distract us with arguments about the word terrorism. Let’s be clear: These spree killings are all, in their own ways, acts of terrorism.

Opponents of gun control are saying, as they do after every killing, that no law can unfailingly forestall a specific criminal. That is true. They are talking, many with sincerity, about the constitutional challenges to effective gun regulation. Those challenges exist. They point out that determined killers obtained weapons illegally in places like France, England and Norway that have strict gun laws. Yes, they did.

But at least those countries are trying. The United States is not.

Worse, politicians abet would-be killers by creating gun markets for them, and voters allow those politicians to keep their jobs. It is past time to stop talking about halting the spread of firearms, and instead to reduce their number drastically — eliminating some large categories of weapons and ammunition.

It is not necessary to debate the peculiar wording of the Second Amendment. No right is unlimited and immune from reasonable regulation.

Certain kinds of weapons, like the slightly modified combat rifles used in California, and certain kinds of ammunition, must be outlawed for civilian ownership.

It is possible to define those guns in a clear and effective way and, yes, it would require Americans who own those kinds of weapons to give them up for the good of their fellow citizens.

What better time than during a presidential election to show, at long last, that our nation has retained its sense of decency?

http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/12/05/opinion/end-the-gun-epidemic-in-america.html

[Winehole23]

just gonna throw this out there:

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

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just gonna throw this out there:

http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/05/07/gun-homicide-rate-down-49-since-1993-peak-public-unaware/

Relative to USA's own insanity, looks great. Compared to other industrial countries, USA is still wildly insane (for profit).

BigGunCorp and its whores in the NRA, GOA, and in legistlatures makes gun policy, not Americans.

How many people, kids, would be alive today if the REPUGS in 2004 had kept the assault gun ban in law?

Repugs have MURDERED many more Americans than all the Muslim terrorists combined, all for profit.

[Aztecfan03]

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that is dangerous. kids aren't responsible enough for that. should be an age limit for firearms.

[Winehole23]

Relative to USA's own insanity, looks great. Compared to other industrial countries, USA is still wildly insane (for profit).

BigGunCorp and its whores in the NRA, GOA, and in legistlatures makes gun policy, not Americans.

How many people, kids, would be alive today if the REPUGS in 2004 had kept the assault gun ban in law? dunno. how many?

(point taken about the level of gun violence relative to other countries being ridiculous. was just making a point about the historical trend.)


Repugs have MURDERED many more Americans than all the Muslim terrorists combined, all for profit.what the hell are you talking about? war? violent criminals?

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dunno. how many?

(point taken about the level of gun violence relative to other countries being ridiculous. was just making a point about the historical trend.)

what the hell are you talking about? war? violent criminals?

Well, let's see

Nixon subverted the Paris Peace Talks in the last weeks of the 1968 election to deny Humphrey's victory. result? 30K+ more military deaths through 1975, and 100K+ more injuries.

Then there's Iraq.

... which led to the steaming shit pile we have now and for many years to come in the Middle east, which led to ...

Ft Hood shooting

and apparently San Bernardino slaughter.

etc, etc, etc

Then there's allowing assault rifles to be sold, 10s if no 100s more death vs handgun-only deaths.

Repugs make America much more insecure, and they totally suck at geopolitics and der Heimat defense (9/11)

Then add in several 1000s per year, if not 10Ks of diseased, dead Americans from Repugs not expanding Medicaid, including the Repugs' dead babies, dead mothers, excessive abortions due to lack of perinatal care, contraception.

Repugs are much more dangerous, homicidal to US than all the Muslim terrorists combined.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well, let's see

Nixon subverted the Paris Peace Talks in the last weeks of the 1968 election to deny Humphrey's victory. result? 30K+ more military deaths through 1975, and 100K+ more injuries.

Then there's Iraq.

... which led to the steaming shit pile we have now and for many years to come in the Middle east, which led to ...

Ft Hood shooting

and apparently San Bernardino slaughter.

etc, etc, etc

Then there's allowing assault rifles to be sold, 10s if no 100s more death vs handgun-only deaths.

Repugs make America much more insecure, and they totally suck at geopolitics and der Heimat defense (9/11)

Then add in several 1000s per year, if not 10Ks of diseased, dead Americans from Repugs not expanding Medicaid, including the Repugs' dead babies, dead mothers, excessive abortions due to lack of perinatal care, contracption.

Repugs are much more dangerous, homicidal to US than all the Muslim terrorists combined.

You have to love how he starts off with the assumption that Humphrey would have won and then just pins tens of thousands of deaths like the link is anything but hypothetical.

We are also apparently wholly responsible for the middle east. using medical life estimates for policymakers as concrete numbers to be thrown around to add to the tally is a nice finishing flourish.

I await being told to go fuck myself.

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You have to love how he starts off with the assumption that Humphrey would have won and then just pins tens of thousands of deaths like the link is anything but hypothetical.

We are also apparently wholly responsible for the middle east. using medical life estimates for policymakers as concrete numbers to be thrown around to add to the tally is a nice finishing flourish.

I await being told to go fuck myself.

Thanks for loving my posts, shithead.

Nixon wanted to ASSURE he won, and it cost 10Ks military deaths AND 100Ks military injuries.

Yes, the Middle East was basically stable before the Iraq invasion, any fragility was TOTALLY destroyed by dubya, dickhead, BigOio, Rummy, Feith, Wolfie, PNAC invading Iraq for oil.

GFY