Buyout Watch Thread

[Beaverfuzz]

have you watched Granger this season? He's been terrible coming off a major injury who's shooting 35% from the field tbh.

You're comparing him to Big Baby, enough said. There's a reason why Big Baby was dumped off Boston to begin with.

[Mugen]

You're comparing him to Big Baby, enough said. There's a reason why Big Baby was dumped off Boston to begin with.

honest question, have you watched Granger since 2012? Him and Big Baby have about the same lateral quickness at the moment.

If Big Baby is so terrible, then why is he pretty much a lock to go and play for his old coach in Boston :lol

[JR3]

Jamison fits our system. Wouldn't be surprised if he is the Spurs number one target.

[I. Hustle]

Jamison fits our system. Wouldn't be surprised if he is the Spurs number one target.

This.

Pop always brings in old gunslingers. Every great run we had included a guy on his way out.

[exstatic]

lol i'm just saying cause the guy's a veteran well past his prime. You know, Spurs material. In all honesty, I'd hate for the Spurs to sign him.

The last time the Spurs signed anyone over 30 at signing (other than TMac who we knew was only emergency help) was McDyess in 2009. You guys need some new material.

Even Granger would be violating the New Order.

[Chinook]

I wonder if the Spurs want Clark but are keeping it under wraps until the waiver deadline passes. That way, they don't risk OKC claiming him. Dallas threatened to do the same thing with Brewer in 2011. Some say that's why he agreed to a long-term deal with them instead of SA.

[Budkin]

:lol

There are worse players than Ayres in the NBA. Not many, but Jamison is one of them.

Nobody is worse than Ayres.

[Mel_13]

I wonder if the Spurs want Clark but are keeping it under wraps until the waiver deadline passes. That way, they don't risk OKC claiming him. Dallas threatened to do the same thing with Brewer in 2011. Some say that's why he agreed to a long-term deal with them instead of SA.

If I'm reading the numbers right, claiming Clark will put OKC over the tax line. Can't see them doing that. Especially since they could outbid the Spurs and still remain under the tax once Clark clears waivers.

[letmk]

For some reason I see the Spurs wanting a guy like Antawn over Granger any day of the week.

I don't follow his game much this season to know his playing shape. But he is definitely the kind of guy that Spurs/Pop like.

[look_at_g_shred]

The last time the Spurs signed anyone over 30 at signing (other than TMac who we knew was only emergency help) was McDyess in 2009. You guys need some new material.

Even Granger would be violating the New Order.
Chill bruh! Just wait...

[024]

Pretty interesting options, more so than the trade deadline. Spurs have had interest in Davis in the past but the homophobe fans don't like him because of his flamboyant attitude. Truth is, Davis is a pretty damn good player on a good team and he has far more toughness than Splitter. Too bad the Clippers and Rivers will probably be the ones to sign him. Earl Clark is interesting but when bottom feeder teams like the Cavs and Sixers have given up on him, that's not a good sign. But he should be good for spot minutes defense.

Granger should obviously be the main target if bought out. But I don't know if he would be willing to continue taking a reduced role. Instead of bowing to Paul George, he'll have to bow to Leonard instead.

Antawn Jamison? No, just no.

[hater]

Clark would be the smart choice and should be the priority

[Beaverfuzz]

honest question, have you watched Granger since 2012? Him and Big Baby have about the same lateral quickness at the moment.

If Big Baby is so terrible, then why is he pretty much a lock to go and play for his old coach in Boston :lol


*sigh* You don't get it. Arriba.

[Beaverfuzz]

Nobody is worse than Ayres.

Pendergraph is 1/4 better than Ayres.

[jermaine]

Did Clark get bought out already? I dont understand all these comments on him like he's already ready to go to another team. But Clark is a dirty work kinda guy, which the Spurs need.

[Mel_13]

Did Clark get bought out already? I dont understand all these comments on him like he's already ready to go to another team. But Clark is a dirty work kinda guy, which the Spurs need.

He was waived. Waiting for him to clear waivers and officially become a free agent. Should happen by Monday.

[Chinook]

Did Clark get bought out already? I dont understand all these comments on him like he's already ready to go to another team. But Clark is a dirty work kinda guy, which the Spurs need.

He got waived yesterday. No buyout.

[jermaine]

Thanks. He's the guy who played with the Lakers right?? If so, he seems like a system guy. A do your job/know your roll kinda guy. I like him more than Granger, but if Granger has anything left, he'd be a dam good pick up. Cut Ayers an keep Austin. Keep Matt just cuz he's white an he plays hard with no complaints.

[Cklbmk]

honest question, have you watched Granger since 2012? Him and Big Baby have about the same lateral quickness at the moment.

If Big Baby is so terrible, then why is he pretty much a lock to go and play for his old coach in Boston :lol


All he has to do is stand in a corner and shoot open 3s while playing some defense

[Mugen]

*sigh* You don't get it. Arriba.

:lol so you haven't tbh.

[Russo21]

:danceclubbut but we have Austin Daye, we're set :cheer

[BatManu20]

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/2/21/5432866/glen-davis-buyout-suitors-contenders-clippers-nba

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Am I missing something? Why do people want Davis when we just got rid of Blair?

[Chinook]

Am I missing something? Why do people want Davis when we just got rid of Blair?

That Davis isn't Blair?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

That Davis isn't Blair?

Weren't we bitching about having a short big that can't play defense and focuses on one side of the ball?

[Chinook]

Weren't we bitching about having a short big that can't play defense and focuses on one side of the ball?

Davis isn't shorter than Ayres or Bonner. Plus he can spread the floor and bang in the post.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Davis isn't shorter than Ayres or Bonner. Plus he can spread the floor and bang in the post.

Should have just kept Blair then.

[Chinook]

Should have just kept Blair then.

That doesn't make sense. If Davis is better than Blair, why keep DeJuan?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

That doesn't make sense. If Davis is better than Blair, why keep DeJuan?

He's not. That's the point.

[Chinook]

He's not. That's the point.

He is. He's taller and can score from anywhere.

[ace3g]

Kings coach Michael Malone said on his weekly radio interview that the recently acquired Jason Terry (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/terryja01.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.hoopsrumors.com) will not join the team for the remainder of the year, according to Jason Jones of The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/2014/02/21/6179669/malone-terry-will-not-join-kings.html#mi_rss=Kings/NBA). Terry has opted to rehab in preparation for next season, saying he has yet to recover from a knee surgery he underwent in the offseason. The team has no plans to buyout Terry’s contract, which has one year remaining beyond this season at approximately $5.5MM.

[ace3g]

3:23pm: The Rockets are waiving Ronnie Brewer (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brewero02.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.hoopsrumors.com) to sign Troy Daniels, a source tells Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle (Twitter link (https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/436971397378633728)). It’ll be a two-year deal for Daniels, though 2014/15 will be non-guaranteed, Feigen adds (on Twitter (https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/436971729047392256)).

[SpurPadre]

He is. He's taller and can score from anywhere.
Blair is a better rebounder and finisher but Davis is the more well-rounded player on both ends.

[Robz4000]

Ronnie Brewer any good this season?

[Spursfanfromafar]

Ronnie Brewer any good this season?

Bad. Really Bad.

Granger's corpse is better than him.

[Robz4000]

Bad. Really Bad.

Granger's corpse is better than him.

Damn. Couple years ago he would've been perfect for the Spurs.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Granger has regressed, but RAPM advanced stats and opposition PER ratings suggest that he is still good to go for defense.

RAPM overall (offense + defense) = 0.7+1.4=2.1 (per 100 possessions). [Good enough for 9th position among SFs, behind the likes of Andre Iguodala, LeBron James, Kevin Durant, DeMarre Carroll, Paul Pierce, Shane Battier, Carmelo Anthony, Paul George...]

opposite SF PER = 9.0 (his: 10.8)

If he is bought out, he is an obvious choice for Backup SF

[SupremeGuy]

You know, there's so much shit talking on this forum, but a lot of you bastards are pretty fucking knowledgeable(not robdiaz lol). It's nice communicating with people that aren't "casual" Spurs fans, tbh.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Granger's shot chart - http://stats.nba.com/playerShotchart.html?PlayerID=101122

Good to go on corner threes and the top of key three shot.

Make him play off the ball in a lineup featuring Manu, Mills/ Belinelli and he will be good to go.

[Bruno]

3:23pm: The Rockets are waiving Ronnie Brewer (http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/brewero02.html?utm_campaign=Linker&utm_source=direct&utm_medium=linker-www.hoopsrumors.com) to sign Troy Daniels, a source tells Jonathan Feigen of the Houston Chronicle (Twitter link (https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/436971397378633728)). It’ll be a two-year deal for Daniels, though 2014/15 will be non-guaranteed, Feigen adds (on Twitter (https://twitter.com/Jonathan_Feigen/status/436971729047392256)).

Brewer lack of shooting is a big issue.

Speaking of shooters, Troy Daniels D-league stats are crazy:
In 33 games, he has taken a total of 556 shots and 432 of these 556 shots were 3 pointers. That's over 13 3-points attempts per game. His 3P% is 40.3%.

[naico]

Metta is next

Metta World Peace ‏@MettaWorldPeace (https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace) 44s (https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/status/437258927668219904)
Thank NYC for everything.Thanks for having meI will always be grateful...My agent is working on a buyout.No disrespect to the cityLuv U

[jeebus]

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aka Danny Granger

[Baam]

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aka Danny Granger

:lol Interesting that they actually consider finishing the year with Brown...

That FO is so incredibly confident in our chances... An half hearted try at AK and then they called it a season and went on vacation...

That said Brown would be a great Mills replacement next season, way more athletic for a midget SG...

[Vic Petro]

Metta's brother.

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[jeebus]

Metta's brother.

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[Baam]

Metta's brother.

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Good stuff, Metta would pretty much be Jack2.0, which I'd love. Now these guys want to play, hopefully Pop doesn't tell them they will only play if one of the no-defense crew (Mills/Beli) is injured or something...

[Vic Petro]

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:toast

[DesignatedT]

There's better options but Metta wouldn't be a bad choice just for spot minutes on Harden, Durant, etc. he's been pretty fuckin awful from what I've seen this year though. Loads of experience also though.

[HarlemHeat37]

Meta can't play SF anymore, he's way too slow, but he can be a solid PF off the bench..more importantly, he would bring toughness and intimidation, he's a proven champion, and unlike Jack, he has never been known to be a cancer, tbh..

I'd love to have him on the team, and he loves the Spurs, too(his brother's favourite team)..

[HarlemHeat37]

It would also be nice to have him on the floor against Harden, just to fuck with his head:lol..

[jeebus]

It would also be nice to have him on the floor against Harden, just to fuck with his head:lol..
Physically or mentally fuck with his head?

[DPG21920]

I'd would rather lose than listen to Ron's brother. Dude is a dummy.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Physically or mentally fuck with his head?

MWP would do both. He takes one for the team.

[Mel_13]

I'm generally not a big fan of crazy, but I've wanted MWP on the Spurs for many years.

[bklynspursfan]

I'm generally not a big fan of crazy, but I've wanted MWP on the Spurs for many years.

+1... And he really respects Pop and the Spurs.

[SilverSpur]

Can we use are connection with Brett Brown to influence Granger to sign with the Spurs or Forcier relationship with World Peace. If Udrih is bought out do we approach him to replace Brown?

[DPG21920]

Clark>Granger>MWP

[lmbebo]

Can we use are connection with Brett Brown to influence Granger to sign with the Spurs or Forcier relationship with World Peace. If Udrih is bought out do we approach him to replace Brown?

Isn't our head asst boylean? a former pacers asst? maybe has a relationship with granger

[Mugen]

I'd personally prefer Artest over Granger but I'd be fine with either over re-signing Shannon F'n Brown tbh.

[spurs10]

Any ideas on a timeline. This could be some welcome news.

[Mel_13]

Any ideas on a timeline. This could be some welcome news.

Something like 3 business days after he's placed on waivers.

[HarlemHeat37]

Looking up World Peace's game with the Lakers last season(since it's a larger sample size, and the Knicks are so poorly built/he hasn't received much of a chance):

- Surprisingly good pick&roll ball handler
- Scored on 51% of his post plays last season, one of the most productive post wings in the league last year
- Can't shoot consistently, only shot 34% on assisted 3s
- Above average on backdoor screens/cuts

Defensively:

- Above average iso defender against opposing SFs, can't defend guards anymore
- Great post defender against SFs and smaller PFs
- Surprisingly good at defending screens
- Horrible pick&roll defender
- Average rotational defender


Even this season, in a minuscule sample size, he's 11 for 19 in the post, and opponents are 2 for 9 in the post against him..if the Spurs want a small-ball PF, he seems like he would be a nice fit..

[Mel_13]

Warriors Sign Hilton Armstrong from D-League’s Santa Cruz Warriors to 10-Day Contract
http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/armstrong-signing-20140222

[Chinook]

The thing I like about MWP is that you know he'll leave it all on the court in a Finals Game Seven. Between him and Cory, the Spurs would have a quality third defender.

[lmbebo]

problem with MWP, is how much athleticism does he have left? he rushed back from that knee injury

[Baam]

problem with MWP, is how much athleticism does he have left? he rushed back from that knee injury

Athleticism is not the core of his value, it's gritty defense and all school toughness.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfk629UFw6w

"If you're scared go to church" SJax (when everyone else was in fetal position in the WCF)

Boris has some Horry in him but not the part that hipchecked Nash, Metta on the other hand...

[SpursFanInAustin]

Athleticism is not the core of his value, it's gritty defense and all school toughness.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfk629UFw6w

"If you're scared go to church" SJax (when everyone else was in fetal position in the WCF)

Boris has some Horry in him but not the part that hipchecked Nash, Metta on the other hand...

Ahhh, the altercation between MWP and Ibaka, that led to SJax tweeting that "he would go up on abaka's mouf, he doin' too much!"

[HarlemHeat37]

Ya, talent >>> toughness IMO, but it would be nice for the Spurs to have a tough, intimidating player on the floor at times; tbh..

It doesn't have to be toughness as in cheap shots, etc, but toughness as in a player that will leave it on the court all game and won't be intimidated by the situation, refs or opposing players..

[galvanizedspur9]

Metta's brother.

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Is Miami interested in every goddamn decent free agent? FFS

[Seventyniner]

Ya, talent >>> toughness IMO, but it would be nice for the Spurs to have a tough, intimidating player on the floor at times; tbh..

It doesn't have to be toughness as in cheap shots, etc, but toughness as in a player that will leave it on the court all game and won't be intimidated by the situation, refs or opposing players..

Can you imagine a circumstance in which Artest would be on the floor at the end of a close game? Or are you just talking about things like stopping runs in the middle of the game?

[Chinook]

Can you imagine a circumstance in which Artest would be on the floor at the end of a close game? Or are you just talking about things like stopping runs in the middle of the game?

Honestly, I think Jack would have been in during Games Six and Seven had he not talked his way off the team.

[DesignatedT]

Jack in for who? Lol Leonard? In that case thank god Jack talked his way off the team. Jack was last year and still is a horrible basketball player.

[PingPong]

Ahhh, the altercation between MWP and Ibaka, that led to SJax tweeting that "he would go up on abaka's mouf, he doin' too much!"

Three fake thugs. No punches were thrown, no head in the nose... a bunch of outspoken fake thugs.

[objective]

MWP isn't the same player he was last year though. after the meniscus removal he can barely move.

[Mel_13]

Jack in for who? Lol Leonard? In that case thank god Jack talked his way off the team. Jack was last year and still is a horrible basketball player.

Neal played a total of 50 minutes in those games. Jack would have gotten a chunk of those. Too bad he was such a colossal, selfish idiot.

[Chinook]

Jack in for who? Lol Leonard? In that case thank god Jack talked his way off the team. Jack was last year and still is a horrible basketball player.

Neal, and maybe some of Diaw's. I'm not saying he would have stayed in. But I do think Pop would have trusted him to try to come through one last time. I think he'd do the same with MWP is the other wings were struggling.

[MeloHype]

Metta is trash now, not sure why you guys want him

[spurs10]

Something like 3 business days after he's placed on waivers. Thanks!

[DeadlyDynasty]

Spurs don't have any hard, pipe-hittin' niggas on their team, so RonRon would fill that void

[benefactor]

Spurs don't have any hard, pipe-hittin' niggas on their team, so RonRon would fill that void
:tu

[FutureMan]

How much money do the Spurs have to sign anyone before going over the luxury tax?

[HarlemHeat37]

Can you imagine a circumstance in which Artest would be on the floor at the end of a close game? Or are you just talking about things like stopping runs in the middle of the game?

The latter, tbh..

He shouldn't play more than 10 MPG, none of these buyout players should..

The Spurs are going to live and die by their 8-man rotation, but it would be need to have a situational SF in case of foul trouble, etc..

Parker/Duncan/Leonard/Manu/Green/Splitter/Diaw/Beli or Mills is good enough to win a title IMO(if Parker is back to form), but having an end of the bench situational defender/small-ball 4 would be nice for matchup purposes, particularly against Houston and OKC..

[Spursfanfromafar]

MWP is done.

Granger > Clark > MWP, IMO... even if Granger is mostly damaged goods.

[ABC]

How much money do the Spurs have to sign anyone before going over the luxury tax?

Around $7 Million. The luxury tax isn't a concern. They can only sign players to the minimum (or the small amount left of their MLE) because they're over the salary cap, like most of the teams that will be vying for players that are bought out.

[ABC]

^
I shouldn't have even mentioned the MLE. I think there is only enough MLE left to sign a rookie, so it wouldn't apply to any of the players people are discussing here.

[Spurs9]

I would love to have MWP, we need a guy who will be crazy enough to fight fans in the stands if needed tbh

[timtonymanu]

I wouldn't mind MWP either. I think he would be a good fit on the roster. He looks done but we would be hiring him as the 10th man at best.

He still brings toughness and is still a reliable defender.

[ChumpDumper]

MWP would be a one season rental; good for the minutes he would get.

Clark has probably hit his ceiling but isn't terrible.

Granger may have some upside for the future if (big if) his recovery progresses, but he's just as meh as the others now.

[Robz4000]

@ ramonashelburne: "Chicago and San Antonio among the teams registering interest in Antawn Jamison, sources said."

Jesus Christ

[Mel_13]

@ ramonashelburne: "Chicago and San Antonio among the teams registering interest in Antawn Jamison, sources said."

Jesus Christ

Sources=Jamison's agent

Interest=RC answered the call from his agent instead of letting it go to voice mail.

[bklynspursfan]

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[szkorhetz]

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Shit may become serious. He could defend LeBron, but I believe Clark or Granger would be better Durant and George defenders and the Heat won't make out of the East, TBH.

[benefactor]

You can believe the Spurs will be dead quiet about this until the moment they go after him. We will likely hear the news and he will be signed almost immediately after that.

[Mugen]

:lol Metta's brother used to post regularly on lakersground. Will be looking forward to shit talkin him directly when his "PlayWorldPeace" account gets approved tbh.

[r0drig0lac]

only granger would be ideal

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lol Metta's brother used to post regularly on lakersground. Will be looking forward to shit talkin him directly when his "PlayWorldPeace" account gets approved tbh.

OT, but as far as family members, nothing will ever beat Richie Incognito's racist dad on finheaven.com. Hopefully they archived his posts so the casual viewer can check out the goods:lol

[Mugen]

OT, but as far as family members, nothing will ever beat Richie Incognito's racist dad on finheaven.com. Hopefully they archived his posts so the casual viewer can check out the goods:lol

:lol agreed tbh. hoping for a Hard Knocks season on the entire Incognito family..

[Mal]

Ok, serious talk. Just get a guy with highest nba 2k14 ratings. It`s simply.

[Juggity]

Dan artest is a long time spurfan IIRC, so him posting "#spursnation" in reference to MWP is probably just wishful thinking on his part. That said, I wouldn't say no to adding MWP to the roster.

[look_at_g_shred]

Spurs front office jizzing over Antawn tbh..

[monkeypunk]

Spurs front office jizzing over Antawn tbh..

Any of the buyouts >>> the ghost of Jamison. He is d-u-n-s-k-i-s.

If he's our buyout pickup, I'd rather see what Daye can do, tbh.

[HarlemHeat37]

Jamison wouldn't make any sense, he plays the exact same style as Bonner, virtually no difference..one of them has an ugly counter hook shot, while the other has an ugly counter scoop shot..

[Chinook]

What's clear is that the Spurs should be able to get a good forward FA if they want to. This really is looking like the best buyout period in years, and it could get better over the next week or so as teams like Detroit, Minnesota, New Orleans and Cleveland potentially give up on the season.

But seeing as the Spurs have shown little urgency attack the SF hole so far this year, I don't know if they even try hard for anybody.

[SpursFan86]

How soon can we expect a signing to be made (if one will be made, obviously)? Like is there some sort of deadline in terms of signing a player who gets bought out?

[Clipper Nation]

Jamison not only sucks, but is also cursed :lol

http://www.clipsnation.com/2013/7/7/4501786/nba-free-agency-rumor-clippers-interested-in-antawn-jamison

Not sure why the Spurs would even want him, tbh....

[look_at_g_shred]

How soon can we expect a signing to be made (if one will be made, obviously)? Like is there some sort of deadline in terms of signing a player who gets bought out?

[Chinook]

How soon can we expect a signing to be made (if one will be made, obviously)? Like is there some sort of deadline in terms of signing a player who gets bought out?

No. They just have to be through waivers by the first of next month.

[ChumpDumper]

How soon can we expect a signing to be made (if one will be made, obviously)? Like is there some sort of deadline in terms of signing a player who gets bought out?48 hours after a player is waived he can be signed to a new contract. No deadline to sign the player if he is waived before 3/1.

[Mel_13]

Any ideas on a timeline. This could be some welcome news.


Something like 3 business days after he's placed on waivers.


Thanks!

It's actually 48 hours including weekends.

[siraulo23]

As long as the spurs get SOMEBODY

[Mel_13]

No. They just have to be through waivers by the first of next month.


48 hours after a player is waived he can be signed to a new contract. No deadline to sign the player if he is waived before 3/1.

Chump's right. Waiver request must be filed by March 1st, player clears 48 hours later, and can sign anytime after that. That much I looked up.

I recall that such players can sign all the way up to the final day of the regular season, but I couldn't find confirmation of that.

[td4mvp2k]

@ ramonashelburne: "Chicago and San Antonio among the teams registering interest in Antawn Jamison, sources said."they have had an interest him before so it makes sense and he is prob best fit to wats out there tbh

[timtonymanu]

I would be fine with any of MWP, Clark, or Granger. MWP to me seems like the most realistic option.

Hell no to Antawn Jamison.

[RD2191]

I would be fine with any of MWP, Clark, or Granger. MWP to me seems like the most realistic option.

Hell no to Antawn Jamison.

[td4mvp2k]

I think we learned last yr pop is done wit da stephen jacksons of da world tbh

[r0drig0lac]

Hell no to Antawn Jamison.

[Prime Time]

MWP would be a solid pick-up. He has a past of coming up big in the playoffs, But I'm not implying that he'd make a substantial difference or anything.

At least he has the championship/playoff experience Granger lacks. Hey, it's something.

[Uriel]

My personal ranking for the Spurs from all the free agent SF's being bought out:

1. Danny Granger
2. Earl Clark
3. Caron Butler
4. Metta World Peace

[TMT®]

Why are some of you so attached to the idea of Metta on the team? Not only is he completely washed up but he's not the kind of guy the Spurs go for. Stephen Jackson the second time around didn't work out, what makes you think Ron would?

Granger or Clark would be absolute best case scenario. I'm not even sure what to think about Big Baby at this point.

[exstatic]

Why are some of you so attached to the idea of Metta on the team? Not only is he completely washed up but he's not the kind of guy the Spurs go for. Stephen Jackson the second time around didn't work out, what makes you think Ron would?

Because he's someone I've heard of and AAAAAAAAAHHH we have to get someone, even if they're a washed up piece of shit!!!!

[Budkin]

I would be fine with any of MWP, Clark, or Granger. MWP to me seems like the most realistic option.

Hell no to Antawn Jamison.

The fact that Jamison is the worst possible choice means we're getting him no doubt.

[TMT®]

Because he's someone I've heard of and AAAAAAAAAHHH we have to get someone, even if they're a washed up piece of shit!!!!

Shannon Brown > Metta

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Because he's someone I've heard of and AAAAAAAAAHHH we have to get someone, even if they're a washed up piece of shit!!!!

Why do you post like an ignorant dick? Do you have any better ideas? Jeffers? :lmao

[Juggity]

Shannon Brown > Metta

That's just not even close to true.

[td4mvp2k]

Shannon Brown > Mettatru... Menttal would be a joke to da spurs uni tbh

[TMT®]

That's just not even close to true.

It's way closer to true than it is to false. Have you even seen Metta play this season?

[TheRemix]

As long as the spurs get SOMEBODY

agreed

[slick'81]

So artests brother says he'd like to play in sa?! Cool I guess

[exstatic]

Because he's someone I've heard of and AAAAAAAAAHHH we have to get someone, even if they're a washed up piece of shit!!!!


Why do you post like an ignorant dick? Do you have any better ideas? Jeffers? :lmao


As long as the spurs get SOMEBODY


agreed

[HarlemHeat37]

It's way closer to true than it is to false. Have you even seen Metta play this season?

Every buyout candidate has looked washed up and finished, tbh..Granger has looked absolutely awful this season, too..Earl Clark is my preference for his athleticism, but he has been terrible this season..they're all low-risk/medium-reward signings..

Granger, Clark and World Peace are 6'8 with large frames(especially the latter) that would be playing PF for the Spurs..Shannon Brown is a PF in a 6'4 SG's body at this point..

[Chinook]

Every buyout candidate has looked washed up and finished, tbh..Granger has looked absolutely awful this season, too..Earl Clark is my preference for his athleticism, but he has been terrible this season..they're all low-risk/medium-reward signings..

People seem to have forgotten how done Diaw looked in Charlotte.. Players who are performing rarely get bought out. People also need to realize whoever the Spurs sign won't even be in the rotation. We're taking about an emergency wing who can give spot minutes at the three and four at most. If any of them performe well enough to get more than the min next year, it'll be a coup.

[Baam]

Boris was a special case tbh, he hated his coach (who broke his consecutive game played streak) and was obese... And he still looked pretty good, was easily the best buyout candidate at the time...

Only Granger falls in the same category imo...

[spurspokesman]

We will end up with the corpse of Jamison. Everyone who has the chance are taking there talents to south beach

[exstatic]

We will end up with the corpse of Jamison. Everyone who has the chance are taking there talents to south beach

They have one roster spot.

[heyheymymy]

Because he's someone I've heard of and AAAAAAAAAHHH we have to get someone, even if they're a washed up piece of shit!!!!

he's not being a dick. this is the exact sentiment of over 80% of spurs talk right now. I feel the same way (that the spurs have got to grab SOMEBODY to shore up before the playoffs), but people are not even being realistic and are wanting players on name recognition that are a shell of the player you are even recognizing the name of. Artest and granger of years past are gone. I could see maybe granger pulling a diaw and fitting in and working out, likely not nearly as well as boris but still. I could see MWP being sJax part II.

clark > granger > > > > > > > MWP

[TMT®]

Every buyout candidate has looked washed up and finished, tbh..Granger has looked absolutely awful this season, too..Earl Clark is my preference for his athleticism, but he has been terrible this season..they're all low-risk/medium-reward signings..

Granger, Clark and World Peace are 6'8 with large frames(especially the latter) that would be playing PF for the Spurs..Shannon Brown is a PF in a 6'4 SG's body at this point..

I'll take the 6'8 PFs who can actually move and slide their feet pretty quickly.

1. Clark
.......
2. Granger
.....
.....
.....
.....
3. Metta

[Prime Time]

he's not being a dick. this is the exact sentiment of over 80% of spurs talk right now. I feel the same way (that the spurs have got to grab SOMEBODY to shore up before the playoffs), but people are not even being realistic and are wanting players on name recognition that are a shell of the player you are even recognizing the name of. Artest and granger of years past are gone. I could see maybe granger pulling a diaw and fitting in and working out, likely not nearly as well as boris but still. I could see MWP being sJax part II.

clark > granger > > > > > > > MWP
The thing is, the current pool isn't exactly worth salivating over. At this point of the season, adding a big/experienced forward such as MWP/Granger is really the closest definition of 'solid' Spurs can give.

Honestly, if not for the Buyout Period as of this moment the only players available would be D-Leaguers and some really bad F/A's who were never good in the first place. So with that competition in mind, Granger and company seem like gold.

Still, if anyone is expecting whoever San Antonio signs to deliver anything more than 5-10 minutes, They'd be a very wishful thinker.

[DPG21920]

Earl Clark clears today, correct?

[look_at_g_shred]

Earl Clark clears today, correct?
He was waived Friday.....so yeah I'm sure.

[exstatic]

I'll take the 6'8 PFs who can actually move and slide their feet pretty quickly.

1. Clark
.......
2. Granger
.....
.....
.....
.....
3. Metta

Mine:
1. Granger
2. Clark
3. Big Baby
...
9785. Ayres crippled brother
9786. Baynes autistic cousin
9787. Artest

[DesignatedT]

0.00% chance big baby comes here.

[exstatic]

0.00% chance big baby comes here.

That wasn't a prediction list. I'm not sure either of the other two will, either. Imagine THAT meltdown.

[Mel_13]

The thing is, the current pool isn't exactly worth salivating over. At this point of the season, adding a big/experienced forward such as MWP/Granger is really the closest definition of 'solid' Spurs can give.

Honestly, if not for the Buyout Period as of this moment the only players available would be D-Leaguers and some really bad F/A's who were never good in the first place. So with that competition in mind, Granger and company seem like gold.

Still, if anyone is expecting whoever San Antonio signs to deliver anything more than 5-10 minutes, They'd be a very wishful thinker.

:tu


This post really sums this free agent window for the Spurs.

[DesignatedT]

Glen Davis commits to Clips. Nice get for them. They definitely improve.

[DesignatedT]

Wonder if there is any interest in Ivan Johnson. Just saw he was born in San Antonio. Can't be worse than Ayres.

[td4mvp2k]

Wonder if there is any interest in Ivan Johnson. Just saw he was born in San Antonio. Can't be worse than Ayres.he wants to get paid tbh

[exstatic]

Wonder if there is any interest in Ivan Johnson. Just saw he was born in San Antonio. Can't be worse than Ayres.

He's fucking crazier than Stephen Jackson. There's a reason his NBA career ended in his 20s and he's playing in China.

[cd021]

They have one roster spot.

James Jones could be waived to open a second one

[exstatic]

James Jones could be waived to open a second one

Possibly, but they didn't even waive RMJ. They traded him into someone's cap exception. Being over the tax threshold, cutting players is EXPENSIVE. You still have to pay the salary AND the tax on that player, and the salary AND the tax on any new player you would want to sign.

[Mel_13]

Possibly, but they didn't even waive RMJ. They traded him into someone's cap exception. Being over the tax threshold, cutting players is EXPENSIVE. You still have to pay the salary AND the tax on that player, and the salary AND the tax on any new player you would want to sign.

The marginal cost of such a maneuver is fairly inexpensive. It's just the pro-rated portion of the league minimum salary plus any associated tax.

[Mel_13]

James Jones could be waived to open a second one

Or Toney Douglas.

[Mel_13]

Some historical perspective on the subject. I went back to 2008 and looked at all the post-trade deadline free agent signings by the four teams that advanced to the conference finals each season. These are the players that were rotation players for their new teams for even part of the playoffs:

2008:
Detroit: Theo Ratliff
Boston: PJ Brown (greatest impact by any such player on an eventual champion, IMO)
Spurs: Brent Barry

2009:
Cleveland: Joe Smith

2010:
Boston: Michael Finley

2011:
Miami: Mike Bibby (starter in the playoffs)

2012:
Spurs: Boris Diaw (starter in the playoffs)
OKC: Derek Fisher
Boston: Ryan Hollins
Miami: Ronny Turiaf

2013:
Memphis: Keyon Dooling

[timtonymanu]

The thing is, the current pool isn't exactly worth salivating over. At this point of the season, adding a big/experienced forward such as MWP/Granger is really the closest definition of 'solid' Spurs can give.

Honestly, if not for the Buyout Period as of this moment the only players available would be D-Leaguers and some really bad F/A's who were never good in the first place. So with that competition in mind, Granger and company seem like gold.

Still, if anyone is expecting whoever San Antonio signs to deliver anything more than 5-10 minutes, They'd be a very wishful thinker.

I think a lot of us agree with you. The Spurs, when healthy, have a set 8/9 man rotation. I don't see any of these guys being taken out in favor of guys like MWP/Clark/Granger.

Clark would be a solid 10th man. Yeah, he sucked in Cleveland, but he's young and athletic and would fit perfectly on this team. Plus he was one of the bright spots of that dysfunctional 2013 Lakers team so that has to count for something. And unlike Granger and MWP, he doesn't look close to done yet.

I question Granger on this team, fit-wise and his defense is awful, but for a 10th man, he would be a good pickup too. Pop likes vets and Granger is one. For spot minutes, he would be a decent backup for Kawhi.

MWP looks done, but I wouldn't mind trying him out. Like others have said, he brings toughness (something our team can use) and can be effective as a smallball 4. And while he may be crazy, he's still a good teammate so I don't see the comparisons to that POS Jackson.

For me, Clark is the #1 option. Granger #2, Metta #3.

[szkorhetz]

Yeah, Clark would be the best fit, could spend some time in Durant, George, LeBron and would give us a long, athletic body, with three point shooting and he run the court hard. Not an amazing defendert but still somewhat good.

Granger is second for me too, and I would say no to Big Baby.

[exstatic]

Yeah, Clark would be the best fit, could spend some time in Durant, George, LeBron and would give us a long, athletic body, with three point shooting and he run the court hard. Not an amazing defendert but still somewhat good.

Granger is second for me, too and I would say no to Big Baby.

Big Baby has committed to the Clippers earlier this afternoon.

[superbigtime]

dang too bad davis joined the clips. coulda been a good fit.

[Ice009]

Some historical perspective on the subject. I went back to 2008 and looked at all the post-trade deadline free agent signings by the four teams that advanced to the conference finals each season. These are the players that were rotation players for their new teams for even part of the playoffs:

2008:
Detroit: Theo Ratliff
Boston: PJ Brown (greatest impact by any such player on an eventual champion, IMO)
Spurs: Brent Barry

2009:
Cleveland: Joe Smith

2010:
Boston: Michael Finley

2011:
Miami: Mike Bibby (starter in the playoffs)

2012:
Spurs: Boris Diaw (starter in the playoffs)
OKC: Derek Fisher
Boston: Ryan Hollins
Miami: Ronny Turiaf

2013:
OKC: Derek Fisher
Memphis: Keyon Dooling

I hated that PJ Brown signing. I wanted the Spurs to sign him at the start of that season, I said he was the missing piece to the Championship puzzle. Turns out I was right, but it was for the wrong team. I really wanted him on the Spurs for a while and was pissed when he went to Boston later in that season.

Without him there is no way Boston would have won. He was huge for them as they were choking their way through the Eastern Conference. That also takes me back to the days where Ray Allen was a playoff choker. Up until the finals of that season, Ray was a pretty big choker in the playoffs. He choked his way through those playoffs, but they just scraped through against some really shitty eastern conference teams with all those game 7s in Boston and without PJ Brown's key contributions throughout those first three rounds, I think they may have lost in the second round to Cleveland. From that finals series on though, Ray Allen became a pretty decent playoff performer, which sucks for us, as if they were in the West, they probably never would have made it to the finals with the way they played in those first 2 rounds against pretty weak competition. I always say it was that finals series where Ray Allen turned the corner in the playoffs. If they lost in the earlier rounds, then Allen may not have been the clutch playoff shooter/performer he is now. All IMO of course.

[ABC]

"The Miami Heat are strongly considering the signing of DeAndre Liggins, according to sources. Liggins has spent the season with the Heat's D-League affiliate, the Sioux Falls Skyforce, averaging 14.5 points and 7.5 rebounds per game. The Heat opened a roster spot on Thursday by trading Roger Mason Jr."

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/232115/Heat-Strongly-Consider-Signing-DeAndre-Liggins


Not a buyout, but relevant because the Heat and the Spurs are supposedly interested in some of the same players.

[ABC]

^
Would be hilarious by the way.

[Prime Time]

I liked Liggins and suggested him before, But the dude is seriously a nut-case. Was filed with domestic-abuse charges not too long ago.

The difference between Metta Crazy and Liggins Crazy is how the former actually knows how to win games. I HOPE Miami takes him over Granger.

[spurspokesman]

They have one roster spot.

Gotcha static. Just saying whoever gets the chance and whoever Miami has room for will be coattail captains

[tholdren]

^
Would be hilarious by the way.

Agree, but wtf would they do that move for, liggins wasnt good in college or nba. Is he one of brons boys? Seems like smoke to me

[Uriel]

Is Caron Butler going to get bought out?

[exstatic]

Is Caron Butler going to get bought out?

Who knows? We don't even know if Granger will be bought out. Stay tuned....

[ABC]

Agree, but wtf would they do that move for, liggins wasnt good in college or nba. Is he one of brons boys? Seems like smoke to me

Yeah, it might not be true. Also, it would probably just be a 10 day contract so they could release him and sign someone else whenever they wanted without it being a huge financial burden.

[ace3g]

Sam Amick @sam_amick
(https://twitter.com/sam_amick)Buyouts for the Knicks' Metta World Peace & Beno Udrih expected to be finalized today, I'm told. And Feb. free agency will continue.

[Chinook]

Meanwhile, Clark should be through waivers. I'd bird-in-the hand it and sign him if I were the Spurs. I wouldn't wait for Granger or MWP.

[look_at_g_shred]

For sure ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Spurs always get the cold shoulder from FA"s

[Drom John]

Some historical perspective on the subject. I went back to 2008 and looked at all the post-trade deadline free agent signings by the four teams that advanced to the conference finals each season. These are the players that were rotation players for their new teams for even part of the playoffs:

2013:
OKC: Derek Fisher


Wasn't that supposed to be SAT: Tracy McGrady?

[Mel_13]

Wasn't that supposed to be SAT: Tracy McGrady?

Thanks for catching that. Fisher doesn't meet the conference finalist standard and TMac wasn't a rotation player. I'll edit my post.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

NBA News: Danny Granger Interested in 5 Teams Including Heat, Spurs and Mavericks
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/540166/20140224/danny-granger-buyout-miami-san-antonio-dallas.htm (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/540166/20140224/danny-granger-buyout-miami-san-antonio-dallas.htm)

He's supposedly picking between the Heat, Spurs, Clips, Mavericks, and Bulls. With the Clips getting Davis, it should be between the latter four.

[CitizenDwayne]

Liggins? Unless I'm missing something, the guy hasn't really shown any proof that he can perform on an NBA level. I watched him a lot in college and he showed glimpses of possibly becoming a lock-down D guy, but I don't think he ever made that leap.

Plus, yeah, he's insane.

[look_at_g_shred]

NBA News: Danny Granger Interested in 5 Teams Including Heat, Spurs and Mavericks


http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/540166/20140224/danny-granger-buyout-miami-san-antonio-dallas.htm (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/540166/20140224/danny-granger-buyout-miami-san-antonio-dallas.htm)

He's supposedly picking between the Heat, Spurs, Clips, Mavericks, and Bulls. With the Clips getting Davis, it should be between the latter four.
The article says that he wants to go to a contender. Why are the Bulls and Mavericks listed? A money thing?

[Drom John]

2006
Pistons : Tony Delk
Suns: Tim Thomas 636 playoff starter minutes of .131 WS/48 play replacing injured Stoudemire.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Granger would be a good fit here. His confidence is low right now, though, that's my only concern. He looked a bit lost out on the floor the few times I saw him play since his comeback. The question mark would be if he can actually play himself back into game shape, physically and, especially mentally, by the playoffs.

[Mel_13]

The article says that he wants to go to a contender. Why are the Bulls and Mavericks listed? A money thing?

Unless you see something with a direct quote from Granger, or a tweet from Woj, it's best to regard all these "reports" as pure speculation.

[CitizenDwayne]

Granger would be a good fit here. His confidence is low right now, though, that's my only concern. He looked a bit lost out on the floor the few times I saw him play since his comeback. The question mark would be if he can actually play himself back into game shape, physically and, especially mentally, by the playoffs.

Agreed. I think that's probably the reason for all this hubbub about him choosing his destination; he's in the spotlight once again.

[Drom John]

2005
Spurs: Glenn Robinson
Pistons: Elden Campbell (borderline rotation/garbage)
Heat: Alonzo Mourning (high quality 17m/g)

[Mugen]

I wouldn't blame Granger if he chose the Clippers tbh. He'd probably end up starting for them by the end of the season or at least share heavy SF minutes with Barnes (Dudley has been Ayres-like all season). He's still relatively young and is playing for one more decent payday and a larger role on the Clipps helps him achieve that, at least more than signing with the Heat or Spurs would. Probably why other teams that offer similar situations (CHI/DAL) are mentioned amongst his possible destinations.

[DPG21920]

It's odd to not hear one peep about Clark. No mention of him clearing waivers, no mention of teams interested or teams that he is interested in. Odd.

[Drom John]

2004
Pistons: Lindsey Hunter

That's 10 years. That's enough.

[ace3g]

It's odd to not hear one peep about Clark. No mention of him clearing waivers, no mention of teams interested or teams that he is interested in. Odd.

Yeah, was about to post the same thing.

[timtonymanu]

What DPG said. No reports on Clark is odd. Maybe teams are waiting on what happens with Granger.

I've already said Clark is my #1 choice.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I wouldn't blame Granger if he chose the Clippers tbh. He'd probably end up starting for them by the end of the season or at least share heavy SF minutes with Barnes (Dudley has been Ayres-like all season). He's still relatively young and is playing for one more decent payday and a larger role on the Clipps helps him achieve that, at least more than signing with the Heat or Spurs would. Probably why other teams that offer similar situations (CHI/DAL) are mentioned amongst his possible destinations.

Unfortunately I agree with you. He appears to be someone who needs minutes to be effective, and he'd be a huge upgrade over Barnes so he'd likely see a lot of floor time. Who knows how he'd be used here, although he'd certainly be an asset as a shooter, no doubt about that. When he has his legs he's a decent defender as well.

[bklynspursfan]

Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley (https://twitter.com/IanBegley) 2m (https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/438075572392976384)
#Knicks (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Knicks&src=hash) make it official, announce they have waived F Metta World Peace and G Beno Udrih.

[Clipper Nation]

With the Clips getting Davis, it should be between the latter four.
How so? We have two open roster spots even after the Davis signing....

[bklynspursfan]

438078165181673472

[elemento]

I agree with Mugen

I don't think there's a better place for Granger than LAC. They have a great team and he might even start over there. Dudley has been a massive disappointment and Matt Barnes, while decent, is not in the same class of Granger.

[slick'81]

I also think clips have a great shot at granger if he's bought

[Dex]

All this talk about Granger is moot until he gets bought out, which is far from a sure thing at this point.

[monkeypunk]

Looks like the stars are aligning for MWP, barring anything happening with Clark.

Could be worse, at least he's a big strong defender who won't back down from anyone...

[look_at_g_shred]

438078165181673472
lol

[bklynspursfan]

438080591234605056

[crc21209]

NBA News: Danny Granger Interested in 5 Teams Including Heat, Spurs and Mavericks
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/540166/20140224/danny-granger-buyout-miami-san-antonio-dallas.htm (http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/540166/20140224/danny-granger-buyout-miami-san-antonio-dallas.htm)

He's supposedly picking between the Heat, Spurs, Clips, Mavericks, and Bulls. With the Clips getting Davis, it should be between the latter four.

If he wants to win a title, he would choose between the Spurs and Heat. MAYBE the Clippers. If he wants to play major minutes to prove he can play at a high level withour caring about a title, he will choose between Chicago and Dallas.

[crc21209]

Ian Begley ‏@IanBegley (https://twitter.com/IanBegley) 2m (https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/438075572392976384)
#Knicks (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Knicks&src=hash) make it official, announce they have waived F Metta World Peace and G Beno Udrih.

Barely? I thought he was waived over the weekend...

[spurraider21]

The article says that he wants to go to a contender. Why are the Bulls and Mavericks listed? A money thing?
if it was a money thing, he wouldn't agree to a buyout. he's making more money on Philly than he would via a buyout

also, we need to hear if Granger is actually bought out before any of this speculation makes any sense

[ace3g]

Buck Harvey @Buck_SA
(https://twitter.com/Buck_SA)From what I hear, @MettaWorldPeace (https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/) can scratch the @spurs (https://twitter.com/spurs/) as an option.

[spurspokesman]

Granger will go to south beach I believe. Most players that can revive there career and be an integral part to a championship team would rather take the easy route and coat tail to a ring. So I await the news of his buyout and his immediate commitment to the Heat. Would love to be wrong though

[Mel_13]

Buck Harvey @Buck_SA
(https://twitter.com/Buck_SA)From what I hear, @MettaWorldPeace (https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/) can scratch the @spurs (https://twitter.com/spurs/) as an option.



:depressed

[Mel_13]

if it was a money thing, he wouldn't agree to a buyout. he's making more money on Philly than he would via a buyout

also, we need to hear if Granger is actually bought out before any of this speculation makes any sense

Depends on the terms. Often times, the amount they give back is equal to the pro-rated portion of the league minimum for the rest of the season. The financial reason to stay put would be the guaranteed minutes to showcase himself for the free agent market this summer and retaining his Bird Rights to use in an S&T.

[Juggity]

Buck Harvey @Buck_SA
(https://twitter.com/Buck_SA)From what I hear, @MettaWorldPeace (https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/) can scratch the @spurs (https://twitter.com/spurs/) as an option.



Maybe the FO knows something we don't. MWP's condition is probably worse than it seems.

[Bruno]

Artest has been so bad since his knee surgery. Meniscus surgeries are no joke and he could just be done.

I'm also skeptical Pop is interested in another difficult to manage player less than one year after the Jackson failure.

[szkorhetz]

Artest is still the most legit James defender, from the waived ones, TBH, still just third in my wish list.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah would have loved having MWP but that injury is a serious concern. Its slim picking for the Spurs so I hope they pursue Clark.

[ace3g]

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/9urEXjGR1yLwZwVn5mYBuw--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTUw/http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/nba/teams/1/50x50c/chi.gif
13. Chicago Bulls (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/chi) (29-26; last week's ranking: 13): A source backed the report that Chicago has expressed interest in veteran free-agent forward Antawn Jamison (http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/2/22/5437688/nba-rumors-bulls-spurs-antawn-jamison), who was waived by the Hawks after being acquired last week.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba-power-rankings--eastern-rival-pacers--heat-battle-for-no--1-spot-here--too-210612472.html?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

[timtonymanu]

All yours, Chicago.

[cjw]

Artest is still the most legit James defender, from the waived ones, TBH, still just third in my wish list.

Kawhi and Diaw are both more effective at this point. OKC needs it way more than we do, assuming one of us gets there.

[Texas_Ranger]

didn't even want artest nor Jamison.

[TheWriter]

Just sign Clark and call it a week.

[szkorhetz]

Kawhi and Diaw are both more effective at this point. OKC needs it way more than we do, assuming one of us gets there.
I honestly believe it will all come down to Daye. Him and Clark could play a really similar role. If Pop thinks Daye could contribute and will play him, there is no point to bring in Clark. If not, I hope Pop is just as high on Clark as Spurstalk is.

[benefactor]

MySA is saying MWP is not coming? Welcome to the Spurs bro. :toast

[ace3g]

Christopher A. Vito @ChrisVito
(https://twitter.com/ChrisVito)
Brett Brown: #Sixers (https://twitter.com/search?q=%23Sixers), Danny Granger "just trying to sort out what's going to be best for both parties." sixersdish.blogspot.com/2014/02/brett-… (http://t.co/E0FrrLcRuy) | #76ers (https://twitter.com/search?q=%2376ers)

[SpursFan86]

437334304549396480

I'm really not fond of the idea of signing Jamison.

[HarlemHeat37]

I guess Metta's knees are done, tbh, if the Spurs don't have any interest in him..

He's definitely crazy, but his reputation is much different than Stephen Jackson's..MWP has never had issues with teammates management IIRC, especially as he has grown older..he's the opposite of Jackson, in that regard..if the Spurs aren't interested, it's probably due to physical reasons..

Earl Clark's athleticism is the only remaining option for me, tbh..Granger has nothing left, and Jamison is a Black Bonner at this point..

[Mugen]

If Artest isn't coming here then I have to think that the hesitation came from the Spurs' side. Seems like a good situation for MWP especially after the Knicks debacle but it's tough to gauge the mindset of a crazy person.

Will be a real shame if the Spurs whiff on Clark/MWP/Granger. Will be even worse if they end up signing Shannon Brown the rest of the season since he's shown that he's now terrible at basketball tbh.

:lol Signing Jamison is even worse than standing pat IMO

[timtonymanu]

If Artest isn't coming here then I have to think that the hesitation came from the Spurs' side. Seems like a good situation for MWP especially after the Knicks debacle but it's tough to gauge the mindset of a crazy person.

Will be a real shame if the Spurs whiff on Clark/MWP/Granger. Will be even worse if they end up signing Shannon Brown the rest of the season since he's shown that he's now terrible at basketball tbh.

Signing Jamison will also be as bad as resigning Brown. :lol

[Mugen]

Signing Jamison will also be as bad as resigning Brown. :lol

At least Shannon can dunk during dead balls and pregame warmups tbh :lol

[Mel_13]

For what it's worth, spoke to a prominent Heat official last season about Metta. Was told that org liked him "5 years ago." And it's now 6.
https://twitter.com/EthanJSkolnick

[Strategic]

Just sign Clark and call it a week.It works.

[DPG21920]

438106181442105344

[Prime Time]

Neat. Hopefully the Spurs can land him.

[Chinook]

Not surprising, but if I were the Spurs, I'd try to get him to commit quickly or go with Clark. Don't let this drag out only to end up with no one.

[DPG21920]

I can't believe they aren't going after Clark already (maybe they are?)

[DPG21920]

Unless they like the defensive PER numbers of OPP SF's that Danny has posted.

[Cry Havoc]

Not surprising, but if I were the Spurs, I'd try to get him to commit quickly or go with Clark. Don't let this drag out only to end up with no one.

I guess, I just would rather have Granger because I trust his ability to come into our system and contribute on defense IMMEDIATELY. I feel like Clark would be a hit or miss player who would have to figure things out in our system. If anyone plays a system similar to the Spurs, it's the Pacers. Granger would be a factor from day 1, especially with Kawhi on the mend.

[Mugen]

Can't Clark sign with any team right now since he was waived 3 days ago? Strange we haven't heard much about him (even possible suitors) when he has the most upside of the bunch tbh. Not sure what it says about him.

[DesignatedT]

Pop would trust Granger more than Clark. Just sayin

[Mel_13]

If he wants revenge and a ring: Heat

If he wants the best chance of playing time on a top team: Clippers

If he wants the closest organizational/basketball match to the only NBA team he has ever known: Spurs

[DPG21920]

Plus, like I said, Danny's net PER at SF is better than Clarks (despite Danny being awful this year overall). Maybe that gives SA more hope. But This was just a down year for Clark on the worst franchise in the NBA. But, even last year he was a net negative overall except for SF where he was break even.

[DPG21920]

Why would he get more PT on Clips? They have a ton of wings (even if they aren't thrilled with them)

[Mel_13]

Why would he get more PT on Clips? They have a ton of wings (even if they aren't thrilled with them)

"Best chance of playing time"

He has more chance of getting minutes ahead of Barnes/Dudley than ahead of Leonard/Green, IMO.

[DPG21920]

I guess I was viewing the fact there is only one true SF here, vs several there (which we've seen the opportunity here with Kawhi both healthy and unhealthy) in addition to the fact Ayres & Baynes suck which might open up small ball PF opportunities as well.

[TD 21]

Andrew Perna: Danny Granger will be a free agent soon. My bet is on the Spurs. Twitter @Andrew_Perna

[timtonymanu]

I still prefer Clark, but don't mind Granger at all. Just hope the Spurs aggressively pursue one of these two and not just wait like Chinook said.

I would hate to end up with a guy like Antawn Jamison or Shannon Brown. :lol

[Chinook]

I just hope whoever they sign understands they aren't likely to be in the playoff rotation.

[DPG21920]

Yup - unless some miracle Boris Diaw level fit happens, playoff rotation is set if healthy:

Tim/TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tiago/Boris/Danny/Patty/Beli

[look_at_g_shred]

Who the fuck is Andrew Perna? Viable source?

[timtonymanu]

Who the fuck is Andrew Perna? Viable source?

Just speculating. No actual source with evidence that Granger is signing here.

[Mel_13]

I guess I was viewing the fact there is only one true SF here, vs several there (which we've seen the opportunity here with Kawhi both healthy and unhealthy) in addition to the fact Ayres & Baynes suck which might open up small ball PF opportunities as well.


Yup - unless some miracle Boris Diaw level fit happens, playoff rotation is set if healthy:

Tim/TP/Manu/Kawhi/Tiago/Boris/Danny/Patty/Beli

My OP was strictly based on Granger's chances to get minutes in the playoffs based on the exact rotation you named. He could well get Ayres' regular season minutes, but that role will disappear when the playoffs start.

[DPG21920]

You moved the goalposts.

[Mel_13]

You moved the goalposts.

:lol

[TD 21]

My OP was strictly based on Granger's chances to get minutes in the playoffs based on the exact rotation you named. He could well get Ayres' regular season minutes, but that role will disappear when the playoffs start.

It'll probably only disappear in a series with a lot of small ball, in which case Leonard will eat up the remaining fourth big minutes. Short of that, chances are there will be spot minutes going to either Ayres or Bonner, unless they sign Granger. A strict three big rotation is only utilized when one can play virtually unlimited minutes.

[Mel_13]

It'll probably only disappear in a series with a lot of small ball, in which case Leonard will eat up the remaining fourth big minutes. Short of that, chances are there will be spot minutes going to either Ayres or Bonner, unless they sign Granger. A strict three big rotation is only utilized when one can play virtually unlimited minutes.

In that scenario, Bonner and/or Baynes get those 4th big minutes.

[TD 21]

In that scenario, Bonner and/or Baynes get those 4th big minutes.

Yeah, I'd lean Bonner, but there's no chance Baynes get's them. If the thought of Baynes potentially being that had even crossed Pop's mind, given how bad Ayres has looked (and how blatantly frustrated he's has been with him), we'd have seen an extended look by now. It's clear they view him as strictly a specialist; someone to bang with the overpowering low post centers.

[SpursFan86]

Do the Clippers still have a roster spot after signing Davis?

[Seventyniner]

In that scenario, Bonner and/or Baynes get those 4th big minutes.

This is why I thought the Spurs might go small more in the playoffs if they get Granger, so that they don't have to play Bonner or Baynes at all. I wouldn't want to put Granger on Z-Bo, but he might do okay against Parsons or maybe Ibaka.

[cd98]

Granger is guarding threes...can't see him guarding any fours.

[Axegrinder]

Do the Clippers still have a roster spot after signing Davis?
two http://espn.go.com/nba/team/roster/_/name/lac/los-angeles-clippers

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Granger will get time in the PO if we pick him up. If anything, Mills/Joseph would be taken out of the rotation first.

[exstatic]

Maybe the FO knows something we don't. MWP's condition is probably worse than it seems.

He had PRP therapy this year. He's only been able to play 42 minutes in 13 games since. Bad wheel.