Buyout Watch Thread

[Hoops Czar]

I prefer Butler over Granger myself but RC loves his broken down has beens and never was beens too much.

[Mugen]

I prefer Butler over Granger myself but RC loves his broken down has beens and never was beens too much.

:lol Caron is 4 years older and never had the career that Granger had tbh

[palangi]

I prefer Butler over Granger myself but RC loves his broken down has beens and never was beens too much.
what is butler then?

[Mel_13]

:lol Caron is 4 years older and never had the career that Granger had tbh

:lol

[palangi]

I prefer Butler over Granger myself but RC loves his broken down has beens and never was beens too much.
I think some come here just to complain about anything and everything.

"They didn't get my guy, they are idiots!!!"

[UZER]

Pop will always say that you have to earn your playing time, so if a guarantee is what he wants, a Clipper he will be...

PT def has to be earned. Just ask Errors

[Hoops Czar]

:lol Caron is 4 years older and never had the career that Granger had tbh

Granger's been a dead fish since his injury, plain and simple. Could he turn it aroud ala CP3? Possibly, but I wouldn't bet on it.

[Hoops Czar]

I think some come here just to complain about anything and everything.

"They didn't get my guy, they are idiots!!!"

Another Ayres apologist. Wecome to the forum.

[Mugen]

Granger's been a dead fish since his injury, plain and simple. Could he turn it aroud ala CP3? Possibly, but I wouldn't bet on it.

:lol that very well could be but he's still better than Caron Butler at this point tbh.

[Uriel]

With Earl Clark off the market, Caron Butler bound for Miami, and the Spurs showing no interest in Metta World Peace, it appears to be Danny Granger or bust.

[Spurs da champs]

I prefer Butler over Granger myself but RC loves his broken down has beens and never was beens too much.

:lol If Granger is broken down what the hell is Butler?

[Hoops Czar]

:lol If Granger is broken down what the hell is Butler?

Not broken down?

[palangi]

Another Ayres apologist. Wecome to the forum.
What? I didn't even say anything about ayres. What fuck are you talking about?

HEY WE HEAR YOU!! WHINER!

[Sean Cagney]

Not broken down?

Butler can still play some, he has had some good games this year so I agree.

[Hoops Czar]

Butler can still play some, he has had some good games this year so I agree.

Yeah, and with Granger, he'd better pass his physical with flying colors because the Spurs can ill afford to have another guy on the injured list.

[SpurPadre]

Butler is one of those types who thinks he's too cool to play for San Antonio because of "street cred" bullshit mentality. Fuck him.

[spurspokesman]

Miami bound.

Yup.

[Leetonidas]

:lol arguing Butler is better or less washed up than Granger

[TheGoldStandard]

He ran faster than Baynes and Bonner in practice which is all he needed to do to earn time in our limited front court rotation.

But Bonner stretches the floor... and I'm sure he could run faster than Tiago. It's a paradox.

[Ditty]

I don't think I can stand Butler's five jab steps every time he gets the ball.

[freetiago]

Dont know why you guys are arguing over Small Forwards anyway tbh..
Leonard will hopefully play 36+ minutes in the playoffs with Manu playing the rest at SF
hes shown hes a capable defender and his lack of speed and ability to manuver screens fits better at SF
we saw him get into Durant last time they played and Durant had to call him out in the mid game interview

imo we need a PF who isnt Jeff Errors more then we need another perimeter player

[Strategic]

I just read 26 pages and now I've forgotten what this thread is about. I won't be too cynical if the Spurs pick up a veteran, but I'm a little surprised of the love for Caron Butler. Is he physical suited to challenge LeBron for a few minutes?

[tholdren]

Dont know why you guys are arguing over Small Forwards anyway tbh..
Leonard will hopefully play 36+ minutes in the playoffs with Manu playing the rest at SF
hes shown hes a capable defender and his lack of speed and ability to manuver screens fits better at SF
we saw him get into Durant last time they played and Durant had to call him out in the mid game interview

imo we need a PF who isnt Jeff Errors more then we need another perimeter player

Who is that girl in your signature...nobody fucks with de jesus

[Hoops Czar]

I just read 26 pages and now I've forgotten what this thread is about. I won't be too cynical if the Spurs pick up a veteran, but I'm a little surprised of the love for Caron Butler. Is he physical suited to challenge LeBron for a few minutes?

Can you name a buyout candidate who is? Anyways, Leonard and possibly Green will be gaurding Lebron full-time. That's IF they reach the finals and play Miami.

[Big P]

Who is that girl in your signature...nobody fucks with de jesus

TD's rebound bang.

[tholdren]

TD's rebound bang.

Stfu

[Mel_13]

Knicks to sign Shannon Brown and Earl Clark to 10-day contracts on Thursday. That way, they maximize their 10 days and get them for 7 games.
https://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard

[Mugen]

Damn, only a 10 day for EC? He must suck way more than I thought tbh :lol

[DesignatedT]

Nobody wants Clark

[spurraider21]

the best part of this is that somebody else took Shannon Brown meaning we won't

[Big P]

Stfu

Serious.

[99 Problems]

Earl would have been a season long starter if he had stayed with Fakers.

[tholdren]

Serious.
she ain't fuckin with a broke nigga....

[cd021]

Hm Duncan posting up Ibaka and Diaw posting up Durant are good matchups for us, Perkins is terrible on offense but he's underrated on D.

The Spurs would likely start Leonard in that case, though it depends if OKC goes who plays the 3 in that situation. Would Lamb start or would Sef.

That lineup would be good for cross match-ups with Leonard guarding Durant and Diaw guarding one of those two. Also allow Diaw to potentially post Lamb/ Sef, like you said.

I assumed that OKC would go with Ibaka instead of Perkins. Perkins is such a drag on the offense (An O-rating of 86) it would be worth it play Ibaka instead, even though he isn't the post defender that Perkins is.

[Big P]

she ain't fuckin with a broke nigga....

I'm just saying.

[TD 21]

Bullock gets spot minutes here and there, Barnes has played better since the trade deadline but still should be coming off the bench, and Scrubley has been awful at every aspect of basketball this year while making excuses for why he's out-of-shape, tbh....

So basically, you agree with everything I said.

The bottom line is this: There's 96 wing minutes available and between Redick, Barnes and Crawford, 80-90 are spoken for, which means they can't guarantee significantly more minutes, nor a better chance at a championship.

[txstr1986]

Stfu

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=224103&highlight=girlfriend

[Sean Cagney]

she ain't fuckin with a broke nigga....

Probably not, TD though would not qualify as broke so she fucks with him.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

ESPN getting on the bandwagon:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/10518671/danny-granger-philadelphia-76ers-talking-contract-buyout


Newly acquired Danny Granger (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2760/danny-granger) and the Philadelphia 76ers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-76ers) continue to discuss a possible buyout, according to sources close to the process.Sources told ESPN.com on Tuesday that a buyout consummated before Saturday's midnight deadline for Granger to be waived and remain eligible to appear in this season's playoffs with any team he subsequently signs for remains the most likely outcome.
But sources also said Granger continues to weigh other options, including staying with the 76ers for the rest of the season, as the deadline draws near.
Sources said Tuesday the San Antonio Spurs (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/sa/san-antonio-spurs) and Granger share a mutual interest if the former All-Star comes to a buyout agreement with the Sixers by the weekend.
It's believed the Los Angeles Clippers (http://espn.go.com/nba/team/_/name/lac/los-angeles-clippers) will be another leading suitor for Granger's services should he become an unrestricted free agent next week.
Yet there are risks for Granger in parting company with the rebuilding Sixers. Granger would forfeit his Larry Bird rights in that case and likewise strip Philadelphia of the ability to sign-and-trade him this summer, both of which could impact his earning power in free agency.

[slick'81]

So it looks like it's down to mwp and granger lets see what happens

[dbestpro]

Best guess is Butler to Miami, Granger to OKC, and Udrih to the Spurs.

[Vic Petro]

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[SpursFan86]

Welp, that settles it. Granger headed to the Clips.

[Ditty]

Only thing that worries me is that Granger lives in LA already. I do think the Spurs will still be favorites to sign him though if he gets bought out.

[Floyd Pacquiao]

San Antonio isnt "black enough" for Granger, he's headed to LA imo.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Only thing that worries me is that Granger lives in LA already. I do think the Spurs will still be favorites to sign him though if he gets bought out.

LA is probably going to be tough to beat despite us being favorites. They have more playing time available at SF, not to mention the luxury of living in LA (which Granger already does).

[freetiago]

Honestly theres one team Id love to see get Granger/Butler that is getting no hype which is Memphis
there biggest weakness is SF with Prince starting but James Johnson has been nice of the bench
if they get a shooter who can defend at the SF like Granger then theyll be the most complete team in the NBA to me

Indiana also has the exact same playstyle as Memphis which will help Granger
Conley/Gasol are better playmakers then anything on the Pacers roster and Randolph is a better inside scorer than any Pacer player

[td4mvp2k]

LA is probably going to be tough to beat despite us being favorites. They have more playing time available at SF, not to mention the luxury of living in LA (which Granger already does).:lol spurs luck... tbh

[Duncan2177]

LA is probably going to be tough to beat despite us being favorites. They have more playing time available at SF, not to mention the luxury of living in LA (which Granger already does).

How do the clippers have more playing time available at SF when they already have Barnes,Dudley,and Turkoglu? I see Granger going to the spurs.

[BatManu20]

How do the clippers have more playing time available at SF when they already have Barnes,Dudley,and Turkoglu? I see Granger going to the spurs.
Don't forget Bullock.

[Duncan2177]

Don't forget Bullock.

Yes and Bullock :lol

[Spur|n|Austin]

How do the clippers have more playing time available at SF when they already have Barnes,Dudley,and Turkoglu? I see Granger going to the spurs.

They don't..

[Big P]

How do the clippers have more playing time available at SF when they already have Barnes,Dudley,and Turkoglu? I see Granger going to the spurs.

He would play more than all of them...maybe not Barnes, but Granger would not have a hard time beating out Dudley or Turk.

[Budkin]

Clippers have a complete logjam at SF. Granger would be dumb to go there.

[TE]

Signing with the Spurs makes a lot more sense just out of familiarity (& indirect association) with the team tbh. Other than the weather and area, I don't see how the Clippers are a more desired destination.

[Sean Cagney]

Clippers have a complete logjam at SF. Granger would be dumb to go there.
He would be, but we have questioned decisions before to know better than to say Spurs make the most sense.

[Spurs da champs]

San Antonio isnt "black enough" for Granger, he's headed to LA imo.
Dumb take, especially considering he had no problem spending all his career (up to this point) in Indiana.

[Budkin]

We all hate Boylen for bringing Ayres here but he could be the key to us getting Granger.

[SpurPadre]

We all hate Boylen for bringing Ayres here but he could be the key to us getting Granger.
I hate him for forgetting we have kawhi leonard on the team and therefore being a fucking idiot. That said, it would take him, Brett Brown, George hill, scola and hibbert to say enough good things about the Spurs to win granger over to want to play for the team.

[spurs10]

We all hate Boylen for bringing Ayres here but he could be the key to us getting Granger. Though I have no idea of Granger's relationship with Ayres and Boylen ( yes I am well aware they were on the same team), I feel like if he goes 'west young man' the Spurs are an obvious choice. We have a need for him. If he is deluded and thinks he has to be a starter, then he should stay and enjoy the cheesesteaks and great harmony singing of Philadelphia.

[Uriel]

Best guess is Butler to Miami, Granger to OKC, and Udrih to the Spurs.
:lol




:depressed

[Russo21]

Always liked Granger but he has been pretty shithouse in his comeback this year. I'd love to see him sign with the Spurs not just for this year, I wouldn't expect much apart from playing some minutes behind Kawhi if healthy enough to stay on the court. But for next year and beyond is where he can be most useful, re-sign him and we'd have a continuous experienced lengthy SF who can score and do a bit of everything, he'd be just about the best backup SF in the NBA. If he could come here, stay here, integrate himself as a solid backup SF I think he could have maybe 4 or 5 good seasons for us from now until retirement. I wouldn't like him as a half year rental. I'd like him to retire a Spur if he can be healthy enough to get himself to the finish line.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Granger finishing buyout today. Confirmed.

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[Spur|n|Austin]

I hate him for forgetting we have kawhi leonard on the team and therefore being a fucking idiot. That said, it would take him, Brett Brown, George hill, scola and hibbert to say enough good things about the Spurs to win granger over to want to play for the team.

The Kawhi thing was an accident, it happens, we're human. He admitted to it, and it's over. It was ONE regular season game.

Now the bringing over of Ayers?

UNFORGIVABLE

https://lh5.ggpht.com/SlinodXsaR2uU2GRh9S7gt_PsaRiogc8RgwcNgWmJmT4m5ygY5 q2uuxUIcYm-oKuVos=w300

[Texas_Ranger]

Granger would get most playing time in LA. Houston's got Parsons and Harden on his positions, Miami's got James and they don't like him and Bulls are shit.
I guess it'll be betwen the Spurs and the Clipps, with the Clippers signing him cause of the playing time.

[look_at_g_shred]

Granger finishing buyout today. Confirmed.

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Of course the Clippers are going to swoop him up. The only thing that would sway that would be if he thinks of them as contenders or pretenders. With the latter part being true (my opinion)

[Spur|n|Austin]

A lot of people here seem to be able to think they can predict the future; why not just wait and see what happens.

Also, still confused on how people think the cluster fuck that is the Clippers forward position equals lots of playing time for Granger.

[look_at_g_shred]

Then again if his main concern is playing time, the clippers are probably the best suitor. As some have mentioned, Pop doesn't promise playing time. You earn it in practice. Whereas the Clips, Doc may just start him, which would seem very enticing to him.

[look_at_g_shred]

A lot of people here seem to be able to think they can predict the future; why not just wait and see what happens.

Also, still confused on how people think the cluster fuck that is the Clippers forward position equals lots of playing time for Granger.
It's fun to speculate.

[Spurs9]

How many spots do the Clipers have? It feels like they keep signing people.

[Texas_Ranger]

How many spots do the Clipers have? It feels like they keep signing people.

2 more spots.

[look_at_g_shred]

Jake Fischer @JakeLFischer
(https://twitter.com/JakeLFischer)Anticipating a buyout from the Sixers, Danny Granger's camp views San Antonio as the small forward's top choice to sign with, per source.


Wonder if this still holds true.

[cd98]

While we are waiting for the Granger contract to get bought out and subsequent drama on where he signs, I wanted to revisit this Beno rumor. At first I thought it was nonsensical. Kind of like a rumor that NY writers came up with because they always overvalue their roster. But then I started thinking that Patty Mills is really a two guard when he plays with Manu. Manu is the primary ball handler and Mills is the shooter (they just switch it up on defense). I don't see that changing off the bench, but I'm guessing that Pop may worry that if Parker gets injured, there isn't a true point guard on the roster. Joseph can dribble the ball up the court, but he's not a pure point guard and he can't shoot. I'm wondering if Pop is looking for a more solid backup point guard and an insurance policy for Parker. I'm not sure who is droppable on our current roster to add a Granger and a Beno type player. I can't see them dropping a big guy because those are limited commodities. I could see them dropping Joseph, but that's kind of a tough pill to swallow unless they truly think he will not get better.

[sventhedog]

Best case scenario: granger gets hit by lightning and lead the spurs to 5th title.

Worst case: he gets hurt while eating.

[AFBlue]

Best case scenario: granger gets hit by lightning and lead the spurs to 5th title.

Worst case: he gets hurt while eating.

Worst case: he signs with another contender and is the X factor that forces the Spurs out of the playoffs.

Likelihood of either happening is slim though tbqh imo fwiw.

[peacemaker885]

While we are waiting for the Granger contract to get bought out and subsequent drama on where he signs, I wanted to revisit this Beno rumor. At first I thought it was nonsensical. Kind of like a rumor that NY writers came up with because they always overvalue their roster. But then I started thinking that Patty Mills is really a two guard when he plays with Manu. Manu is the primary ball handler and Mills is the shooter (they just switch it up on defense). I don't see that changing off the bench, but I'm guessing that Pop may worry that if Parker gets injured, there isn't a true point guard on the roster. Joseph can dribble the ball up the court, but he's not a pure point guard and he can't shoot. I'm wondering if Pop is looking for a more solid backup point guard and an insurance policy for Parker. I'm not sure who is droppable on our current roster to add a Granger and a Beno type player. I can't see them dropping a big guy because those are limited commodities. I could see them dropping Joseph, but that's kind of a tough pill to swallow unless they truly think he will not get better.

This makes good sense to me. I think in the end we won't add any though.

[T Park]

Yes the clippers with JJ reddick Matt Barnes Jared Dudley and about fifty other wings is a better place to get playing time over SA.

Great takes.

[Russ]

Of course the Clippers are going to swoop him up.

If Pop loses to Doc for a big, I'm glad its 2014 not 2000. :toast

[Chinook]

If Pop loses to Doc for a big, I'm glad its 2014 not 2000. :toast

:lol

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Yes the clippers with JJ reddick Matt Barnes Jared Dudley and about fifty other wings is a better place to get playing time over SA.

Great takes.

Not to mention Hedo. Clippers have 3 legitimate SF on their roster. Spurs have 1. Take your pick on where Granger would get more minutes.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Not to mention Hedo. Clippers have 3 legitimate SF on their roster. Spurs have 1. Take your pick on where Granger would get more minutes.

Think it through man.

Leonard is going to take up most, if not all, of the SF minutes on the team, especially during the playoff run. Plus put into account that Pop is having a man crush with Belinelli playing the 3 off the bench.

Turkoglu will probably be cut, and Bullock is a rookie. That leaves it between Barnes and Granger.. and I think it's all but certain that Granger would beat out Barnes. Barnes is more suited for situations/bench.

[look_at_g_shred]

Think it through man.

Leonard is going to take up most, if not all, of the SF minutes on the team, especially during the playoff run. Plus put into account that Pop is having a man crush with Belinelli playing the 3 off the bench.

Turkoglu will probably be cut, and Bullock is a rookie. That leaves it between Barnes and Granger.. and I think it's all but certain that Granger would beat out Barnes. Barnes is more suited for situations/bench.
Remember that in some match-ups in the Playoffs, Leonard will play some 4. Thus leaving minutes on the table for Granger at the 3. Why would the Spurs want Granger, and still have Marco play out of his position at the 3?

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Since we all just speculating let me throw out my take.

I think Granger would be interested in playing for a team that can come out of the west and make it to NBA Finals. Realistically, there are only two teams that are the favorite in the West: OKC and Spurs.
How sweet would it be for Granger to join Spurs and play against his old team that he was "pissed" at for letting him go and beating them in the NBA Finals? He has plenty of opportunity for playing time as Leonards backup or at the Four position should the Spurs go small. If he were to be productive and help Spurs win championship then his stock could rise tremendously for a big contract next year for either Spurs or another NBA team.

[Mugen]

If anybody has watched a significant amount of Clipper games this year (my home market team btw), they'd realize that Granger would have a chance to eventually start for them by the end of the season. That's not really a compliment to Danny as much as a knock on how bad the other SFs have been.

Barnes has been mediocre at best. Dudley has been terrible since the beginning of the season. Bullock hasn't been in the rotation all season and Hedo has been playing as a PF who's mins will disappear now that Big Baby is there.

Green/Manu/Kawhi/Beli >>>>>>> Reddick/Crawford/Barnes/Dudley. I want Granger on the Spurs but if he ends up supplanting one of those 4 guys, it'll be because of a giant nosedive in play or injury to one of them. Each of that Spurs' 4 have all been SIGNIFICANTLY better than Granger this season.

I still think there's a chance Danny signs with SA but it won't be because the mins. available are similar. Hopefully, the reports that he's interested in a "real" contender is more true than the reports that he's looking for significant minutes. If he ends up coming here, then it means he accepts his limited role and I'd be all for the move tbh.

[Mugen]

If he does come, Granger's ideal role would be to eat up all those 4th big minutes that are currently going to Bonners/Ayres. It's where he can help this team the most, just not sure how willing he is to accept that considering he was just a backup 3 in Indy.

[SpursFan86]

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Starting to wish more and more that we were the ones at the top of Caron Butler's list.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

438707323012276224

Starting to wish more and more that we were the ones at the top of Caron Butler's list.

That's good news. That doesn't sound like RC to me.

[Chinook]

:lol Someone here is still trusting Amico?

[cd98]

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Starting to wish more and more that we were the ones at the top of Caron Butler's list.

Obviously we don't want to sign an injured player long term. But I believe McGrady was done last year and we still signed him up. So "being done" is probably not enough to scare us away. Problem is, McGrady hardly played.

[Mugen]

:lol Amico is absolutely terrible tbh.

[dbestpro]

:lol Someone here is still trusting Amico?

One take would be that Amico actually believes that Granger will sign with the Spurs, so he will do what he can to minimize the impact.

[cd98]

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Starting to wish more and more that we were the ones at the top of Caron Butler's list.

I think we've tried to get him to sign with us at least two different times and he has chosen both the Mavs and the Clippers over us. I'm certain he'll pick Miami as well.

[spurspokesman]

I believe granger has something left, just needs the right staff and situation. Man that would be one hell of a storyline. Granger finds his game and assists SA in winning there 5th. Spurs are long overdue for some strange luck.

[Mel_13]

If he does come, Granger's ideal role would be to eat up all those 4th big minutes that are currently going to Bonners/Ayres. It's where he can help this team the most, just not sure how willing he is to accept that considering he was just a backup 3 in Indy.

Interesting. If Granger never recovers the mobility to effectively play on the perimeter in NBA, he may be able to extend his career as a stretch 4. He can shoot the 3 well enough, it would come down to how well he can defend PFs.

[Mel_13]

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Starting to wish more and more that we were the ones at the top of Caron Butler's list.

Check Butler's numbers from the 2012 and 2013 playoffs. You'll feel better.

[Mugen]

Interesting. If Granger never recovers the mobility to effectively play on the perimeter in NBA, he may be able to extend his career as a stretch 4. He can shoot the 3 well enough, it would come down to how well he can defend PFs.

He's got the size/build/toughness for it IMO.

TP/Patty
Green/Manu
Kawhi/Beli
Diaw/Granger
Duncan/Tiago

That's the best 10man rotation in the league tbh. Pop will shorten it depending on playoff matchups but it's Granger's best chance of getting heavy mins in the regular season with a chance at some decent spot minutes in the playoffs. I'd like to think if Granger comes, then he has to understand how he'll be utilized. But all just speculation at this point.

[Mel_13]

He's got the size/build/toughness for it IMO.

TP/Patty
Green/Manu
Kawhi/Beli
Diaw/Granger
Duncan/Tiago

That's the best 10man rotation in the league tbh. Pop will shorten it depending on playoff matchups but it's Granger's best chance of getting heavy mins in the regular season with a chance at some decent spot minutes in the playoffs. I'd like to think if Granger comes, then he has to understand how he'll be utilized. But all just speculation at this point.

Yeah, I can't see Granger breaking into the perimeter playoff rotation, but to get the 4th big minutes his competition is much less daunting. Let's see.

[Jwash_1986]

He's got the size/build/toughness for it IMO.

TP/Patty
Green/Manu
Kawhi/Beli
Diaw/Granger
Duncan/Tiago

That's the best 10man rotation in the league tbh. Pop will shorten it depending on playoff matchups but it's Granger's best chance of getting heavy mins in the regular season with a chance at some decent spot minutes in the playoffs. I'd like to think if Granger comes, then he has to understand how he'll be utilized. But all just speculation at this point.
On paper that is one hell of a squad!! That second hint looks tough mane. I would like to see what type of shape Granger actually is in? Is he to slow and mobile for the perimeter? If so slide his ass right to the post and let him stretch it like ala Kevin Love.

[eDizzle20]

I'm definitely looking forward to a Granger signing especially in regards to the playoffs. I think we all remember games 6 and 7 of the finals and how the Heat shut down all of Green's good looks he was getting in that series in games 1-5. It's also unfair to put the duty of guarding Durant our Lebron completely on Leonard. And let's be real, Green, Beli, Manu, and Diaw either don't have the size or quickness to guard either.

[timtonymanu]

I still feel like he's going to the Clippers.

Granger would be a welcome addition at this point. I like Mugen's take.

[Mel_13]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine 2 minutes ago

Latest indications I'm getting: Jimmer Fredette is looking at other options besides Memphis and leaning toward signing elsewhere

[timtonymanu]

Not the Spurs, please! ^

[Robz4000]

:lol Spurs getting Jimmer

[Spur|n|Austin]

Beno>Jimmer

please no to either..

[jermaine]

Jimmer an Kawhi dont like each other right?

[Robz4000]

Jimmer an Kawhi dont like each other right?

They were rivals in the Mountain West, but that doesn't mean they hate each other.

[Johnny RIngo]

None of these free agents are going to help much in a championship run so it's not really worth getting upset over not signing someone as washed up as Granger. Still, I'm gonna laugh if we end up with Jimmer though.

[cd98]

Kawhi likes Jimmer. They are friends. During the lockout he played in a few games organized by Jimmer. They were competitors, but friends off the court.

Jimmer is is an amazing shooter, but he just isn't an elite playmaker, which is why he will struggle to be more than a spacer role. Beno is a playmaker/typical type pint guard, but he can't shoot like Jimmer.

[Chinook]

I'd rather Freddette than a d-league scrub if Jimmer is only looking for the min. His RFA status gives the Spurs options. But he could end up getting a long-term deal from someone like Brewer did.

[Mel_13]

I'd rather Freddette than a d-league scrub if Jimmer is only looking for the min. His RFA status gives the Spurs options. But he could end up getting a long-term deal from someone like Brewer did.

I don't think so. Second paragraph, second sentence:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q44

[Budkin]

A lot of people here seem to be able to think they can predict the future; why not just wait and see what happens.

Also, still confused on how people think the cluster fuck that is the Clippers forward position equals lots of playing time for Granger.

I responded to that point on twitter and here's the answer I got:


"I think Doc would see him as an upgrade over either Barnes or Dudley. Dudley was being shopped reportedly before the deadline."

[Prime Time]

Kawhi likes Jimmer. They are friends. During the lockout he played in a few games organized by Jimmer. They were competitors, but friends off the court.

Jimmer is is an amazing shooter, but he just isn't an elite playmaker, which is why he will struggle to be more than a spacer role. Beno is a playmaker/typical type pint guard, but he can't shoot like Jimmer.
If only there was a way to combine the two.. Oh wait, We already have. His name is Patty Mills :lol

Which is more or less the reason why I'd be extremely confused if Spurs signed Beno/Jimmer over a Forward.

[spurraider21]

I was caught up in Jimmer-Mania back in his BYU days, and I usually don't care for college sports... Still, he's a pretty bad fit here rofl. Would be a typical Spurs move, and he'd make a great stretch 4

:pop:

[cd98]

If only there was a way to combine the two.. Oh wait, We already have. His name is Patty Mills :lol

Which is more or less the reason why I'd be extremely confused if Spurs signed Beno/Jimmer over a Forward.

I think Jimmer=Mills. But Mills is not a point guard. He is a shooting guard that guards point guards. Beno is a legit point guard, which is why I could see the Spurs going after him. If Beno could shoot like Jimmer, he would be Steve Nash.

[Mel_13]

I think Jimmer=Mills. But Mills is not a point guard. He is a shooting guard that guards point guards. Beno is a legit point guard, which is why I could see the Spurs going after him. If Beno could shoot like Jimmer, he would be Steve Nash.

I think you meant Beno was...

Now he's a fat PG who couldn't get minutes ahead of an even fatter PG and a really old Argie.

[heyheymymy]

granger really is the best and likely only option for a decent fit buyout to help this season. MWP, beno, jimmer, even clark just looked like, for varying reasons, were not even worth a shot.

[Chinook]

I don't think so. Second paragraph, second sentence:

http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q44

I read that before I initially brought it up. I don't think it applies to Freddette. First-rounders who don't have their options picked up are essentially the same as cut players, who are UFAs provided they clear waivers. But by signing with a new team, Jimmer takes on a new status. He'd be in the same position Green was, where he was a UFA one season and an RFA the next.

[Mel_13]

I read that before I initially brought it up. I don't think it applies to Freddette. First-rounders who don't have their options picked up are essentially the same as cut players, who are UFAs provided they clear waivers. But by signing with a new team, Jimmer takes on a new status. He'd be in the same position Green was, where he was a UFA one season and an RFA the next.

Ok, seems unfair to the player. Also, if true, you wonder about the calculations made by Jimmer and his agent. Can a 25 game stint with a new team really boost his value enough this summer to make it worth giving up his unrestricted status?

[Dex]

If I was a reputable reporter, I would troll Twitter so hard.

I probably wouldn't be very reputable for long.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol the Clippers easily have room to give Granger big minutes, I don't know what many people in here are thinking, tbh..

Jared Dudley is playing 26 MPG, he's even worse than Granger at this point, tbh..the only other option is Matt Barnes, he's having a good season, but he's not a 25 MPG player..Granger, as bad as he is at this point, probably takes all of Dudley's minutes and a chunk of Barnes's..the Clippers can easily give Granger 25 per game..

The Spurs have Leonard/Green that are both going to be 35 MPG players in the playoffs, in addition to Ginobili and Beli(big enough to play the 3, unlike Redick and Crawford)..

Spurs can give Granger minutes at the backup 3 and as the 4th big, but how many minutes is that in the playoffs?..15 MPG max IMO..

[Chinook]

Ok, seems unfair to the player. Also, if true, you wonder about the calculations made by Jimmer and his agent. Can a 25 game stint with a new team really boost his value enough this summer to make it worth giving up his unrestricted status?

If you need proof, look at Sham's take on Kendall Marshall. He's an RFA after next season. And I don't think it's a big deal for Freddette. If he looks good, someone will pay him. If he sits out the rest of the season, he'll get smaller deals than if he performs. He could also sign a long-term deal with a team that still has their MLE. I could see OKC offering him a deal like $7M/3, which he'd probably take. At best, he's makiny Neal money next season.

[Mel_13]

If you need proof, look at Sham's take on Kendall Marshall. He's an RFA after next season. And I don't think it's a big deal for Freddette. If he looks good, someone will pay him. If he sits out the rest of the season, he'll get smaller deals than if he performs. He could also sign a long-term deal with a team that still has their MLE. I could see OKC offering him a deal like $7M/3, which he'd probably take. At best, he's makiny Neal money next season.

OK.

Except Marshall signed a two year deal. What if Jimmer signs just for the rest of the season?

[Chinook]

OK.

Except Marshall signed a two year deal. What if Jimmer signs just for the rest of the season?

If Freddette signed a two-year deal, he'd be a UFA at the end of it. It needs to be a one-year deal for him to be restricted. It's just that team same principles apply or will whenever Freddette gets the buyout.

Both were first-round picks. Both had their options declined. Both were released and cleared waivers. Both signed new deals ending after their third seasons.

[Prime Time]

I think Jimmer=Mills. But Mills is not a point guard. He is a shooting guard that guards point guards. Beno is a legit point guard, which is why I could see the Spurs going after him. If Beno could shoot like Jimmer, he would be Steve Nash.
Well I mean, On paper Beno averaged 5&3 in 19 minutes. During the RRT Mills averaged 17&2 in 22 minutes. While I'd agree Beno is a better passer, His lack of quickness/athleticism makes him pretty one-dimensional.

[crc21209]

I wish Granger would just be bought already so we can find out where the hell he's going and be done with it already.

[xmas1997]

He won't come here. I'll be surprised if he does.

[wildbill2u]

Does anyone have a current list of buyouts who have NOT been signed as of today. Isn't there a deadline of March 1 for a signee to be able to play in the playoffs?

[playbonner15]

Earl Clark and Shannon Brown to Knicks
http://espn.go.com/new-york/nba/story/_/id/10519080/new-york-knicks-sign-earl-clark-shannon-brown-sources-say

[SpurPadre]

The Kawhi thing was an accident, it happens, we're human. He admitted to it, and it's over. It was ONE regular season game.

Now the bringing over of Ayers?

UNFORGIVABLE

https://lh5.ggpht.com/SlinodXsaR2uU2GRh9S7gt_PsaRiogc8RgwcNgWmJmT4m5ygY5 q2uuxUIcYm-oKuVos=w300

Yeah but have you ever heard of a professional coach making such a mistake well into the season? Yeah, he owned up to it but it was a big factor in our losing that game and it's something that can affect seedings. It was a horrible mistake to make.

[Sean Cagney]

He won't come here. I'll be surprised if he does.

This.

[Budkin]

He won't come here. I'll be surprised if he does.

Probably true but I'll hope against hope as always. Last time we got our guy was 2005 Finley. We're due.

[timtonymanu]

Probably true but I'll hope against hope as always. Last time we got our guy was 2005 Finley. We're due.

Boris Diaw was our last guy. Turned out to be the best free agent signing we've had the last few years.

[Budkin]

Boris Diaw was our last guy. Turned out to be the best free agent signing we've had the last few years.

True didn't even think of that. Getting Jax and Diaw was actually exciting as shit.

[td4mvp2k]

I wish Granger would just be bought already so we can find out where the hell he's going and be done with it already.if so u kno where hes going so dont put to much into it cuz da spurs aint tbh

[timtonymanu]

True didn't even think of that. Getting Jax and Diaw was actually exciting as shit.

The ending with Jack ruined that though. We also picked up Patty around that time and he's been solid.

[crc21209]

if so u kno where hes going so dont put to much into it cuz da spurs aint tbh

English tbh..:lol

[td4mvp2k]

English tbh..:lol:lol get real is english tbh

[sehui]

:lol get real is english tbh

he meant not typing like a wannabe online gangster tbh

[Spur|n|Austin]

If I was a reputable reporter, I would troll Twitter so hard.

I probably wouldn't be very reputable for long.

Dex Amico

[td4mvp2k]

he meant not typing like a wannabe online gangster tbhidc wat u think he meant tbh n lol @ wannabe gangsta...:td

[td4mvp2k]

.

[Spur|n|Austin]

True didn't even think of that. Getting Jax and Diaw was actually exciting as shit.

I remember that Saturday when my phone flashed the news that we had gotten Jack back, I was so damn pumped :lol

[ace3g]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
(https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt)Sixers officially reach buyout with Danny Granger, clearing him to sign with contender. On NBA.com (http://t.co/054nvFfFVL): on.nba.com/1dASJeb (http://t.co/6zD3zLwPDA)

[Beaverfuzz]

Here we go!

[look_at_g_shred]

Oh snap! Let the drama start.....

[Spur|n|Austin]

He's going to the Clippers according to everyone here!

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

David Aldridge @daldridgetnt
(https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt)Sixers officially reach buyout with Danny Granger, clearing him to sign with contender. On NBA.com (http://t.co/054nvFfFVL):on.nba.com/1dASJeb (http://t.co/6zD3zLwPDA)

Lets see what happens

[timtonymanu]

LA, here he comes!

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Grizzlies have claimed Beno Udrih off waivers, I'm told

[GB20]

:corn:

[Spur|n|Austin]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Grizzlies have claimed Beno Udrih off waivers, I'm told



Well at least that's out of the picture.

[Mugen]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Grizzlies have claimed Beno Udrih off waivers, I'm told



:lol I hope we get the Grizz in the 1st round tbh.

[Budkin]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Grizzlies have claimed Beno Udrih off waivers, I'm told



Thank the lord! Now come on Granger!

[ace3g]

Marc Stein @ESPNSteinLine
(https://twitter.com/ESPNSteinLine)Just informed now: Memphis has claimed Beno Udrih, Metta World Peace has CLEARED waivers and Danny Granger officially placed on waivers



Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Yahoo Sources: The Los Angeles Clippers have emerged as the frontrunners to sign Danny Granger. yhoo.it/1fIzCDg (http://t.co/vWO717XrsC)

.....

[timtonymanu]

:lol just hope we don't end up with Jimmer or Jamison now.

[timtonymanu]

Yep! Called it. Oh well!

[monkeypunk]

Have fun sucking in LA, Granger... You reap what you sow...

[ace3g]

The Spurs are selling Granger on a modern-day variation of the Robert Horry role in San Antonio, league sources said. Granger is expected to speak with Spurs coach Gregg Popovich and general manager R.C. Buford in the near future, sources said.

[Spursfanfromafar]

DA talks about how Granger has respect for the Spurs organization -

http://www.nba.com/2014/news/02/26/sixers-granger-buyout/index.html

[Mugen]

Granger going to the Clippers is fine with me tbh. Rather with them than OKC or the Heat. He's much more suited for a 9th/10th man role and he'll be counted on for much more than that if goes to LA.

[SpursFan86]

Yeah, at this point I'm expecting him to go to LA. If he ends up coming here, cool...if not, oh well.

[look_at_g_shred]

Everyone has respect for the Spurs, yet they wouldn't dare play for them :lol

[DPG21920]

Damn, Woj dropping a truth bomb. Woj saying LAC is the front runners jives with most people's logic on here and his reputation is above reproach.

Clips landing Big Baby/Granger for peanuts is pretty big and could be a decent blow to the Spurs standing still at the trade deadline.

[timtonymanu]

A Robert Horry role? Yeah I don't think that would work.

[objective]

I only want (wanted) one of two guys for the Spurs:

Danny Granger or Earl Clark

Granger is a mess physically, Clark is a mess in motivation and concentration.

Clark supposedly gearing up to join the Knicks, who will miss the playoffs, so he can similar minutes he would with the Spurs barely playing behind Melo until maybe the last 3 or 4 games of the year, shows where he's at with his commitment. Maybe with the injuries to Shumpert and release of MWP and Beno he might get a few extra minutes, but it won't be a lot of extra touches around Melo. Don't see how playing on a crap team is going to increase his value any more than it would playing for the Spurs.

Hell, the Knicks would only even have the taxpayer MLE if he was raised his value. Spurs could pay a full MLE to keep him.

[GB20]

since when the clippers are contender?

[Spursfanfromafar]

This is going to test the mettle of Pop & RCB. Clippers offer more in terms of PT for Granger, but less of contention as compared to the Spurs. And if Granger rediscovers an ounce of his prowess for the Spurs, it would promise well both for him and the Spurs, if indeed the Spurs reach the WCF atleast this year again.

[objective]

But yeah, Granger is probably a Clipper.

Spurs getting owned would be no shocker.

[look_at_g_shred]

Playing time over Success.

[Mugen]

:lol just hope we don't end up with Jimmer or Jamison now.

Sadly, I think the Spurs end up with Jamison tbh.

[DPG21920]

This was phase III for the Spurs to improve after failing in phases I & II (free agency & trade deadline). If they fail here, it will be hard to argue that the Spurs did a very good job this year (no matter the end result of this season). There was, with a reasonable degree educated guesses. a lot more the Spurs could have done and their decisions to this point have been questionable.

Let's see how Phase III ends before final judgement.

[LakerHater]

438800780573687808

[monkeypunk]

Sadly, I think the Spurs end up with Jamison tbh.

:pctoss

[TD 21]

:lol the Clippers easily have room to give Granger big minutes, I don't know what many people in here are thinking, tbh..

Jared Dudley is playing 26 MPG, he's even worse than Granger at this point, tbh..the only other option is Matt Barnes, he's having a good season, but he's not a 25 MPG player..Granger, as bad as he is at this point, probably takes all of Dudley's minutes and a chunk of Barnes's..the Clippers can easily give Granger 25 per game..

The Spurs have Leonard/Green that are both going to be 35 MPG players in the playoffs, in addition to Ginobili and Beli(big enough to play the 3, unlike Redick and Crawford)..

Spurs can give Granger minutes at the backup 3 and as the 4th big, but how many minutes is that in the playoffs?..15 MPG max IMO..

No, they don't, but they'll sell him on the notion that they do and the Spurs will give him no guarantees, which will probably seal their fate.

In a vacuum, Barnes isn't a 25 mpg player, but on that team, he is by default considering he's the closest thing they have to a wing stopper. Granger could very well take all of Dudley's minutes, but when Redick returns, those minutes aren't going to amount to a whole lot, because Redick and Crawford will play as much together as they can get away with. They're not having them split time or limiting Crawford to 15 mpg.

The only way Green is a 35 mpg player in the playoffs (barring injuries on the wings), is if it's a small ball series, as it will be against the Rockets or Heat. Short of that, there's no chance he plays that much.

[DPG21920]

Playing time over Success.

Clippers are right in the mix. With Spurs health concerns, poor off season/trade deadline & lack of quality wins, it's hard to make an argument right now that LAC is in less of a "win" situation than SA.

[objective]

Good lord, Jamison is wretched. If there was an ounce of game left in him the Clippers wouldn't have dumped him, and if that fell through the Hawks would've kept him for the playoffs.

Jamison = Poop.

I now expect him to be a Spur.

And in a future game that Pop is ejected in, I expect Boylen to forget Kawhi again while playing Jamison's remains.

[Juggity]

If they fail here, it will be hard to argue that the Spurs did a very good job this year (no matter the end result of this season).

So you're saying even if the spurs win the title, this season is a failure?

[LakerHater]

Granger: if he signs in SA, there will be very few minutes available and he said he wants playing time.

[apalisoc_9]

I'd take meta over granger tbh

[timtonymanu]

Sadly, I think the Spurs end up with Jamison tbh.

Ugh the thought of an Ayres/Jamison/Daye frontcourt off the bench

[objective]

Granger could very well take all of Dudley's minutes, but when Redick returns, those minutes aren't going to amount to a whole lot, because Redick and Crawford will play as much together as they can get away with.

Is Redick a lock to return this year? Bulging disc sounds pretty serious.

[DPG21920]

So you're saying even if the spurs win the title, this season is a failure?

No. I'm saying you judge every facet. Just because they win, doesn't be default mean they did a good job during free agency, trade deadline & buyouts. You may still be able to win in spite of that fact, but that winning alone doesn't make the shortcomings good moves.

[DPG21920]

Not that it's relevant to the thread, but Stein reporting on me:

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[LakerHater]

438803040624066560

[td4mvp2k]

Sadly, I think the Spurs end up with Jamison tbh.if he dont sign wit da bulls 1st tbh

[LakerHater]

Caron Butler to Miami?

[Dex]

Caron Butler to Miami?

Seeming to be the most likely scenario.

[monkeypunk]

Fuck it, bring Metta on!

[LakerHater]

438803875076657152
438804464259301376

[TD 21]

Is Redick a lock to return this year? Bulging disc sounds pretty serious.

I don't know about a lock, but he's projected to. Obviously, if he doesn't, then that changes everything and they can clearly offer him a significantly bigger role, but short of that, the difference in minutes would be miniscule.

Don't be fooled; if they lose out, it'll be for the same reasons they always do: Their arrogant, stubborn nature when recruiting players and the reality that they clearly don't appeal to non mixed/foreign/white players, considering the entire roster is comprised of all but one player who fits that description and said player is a virtual mute.

[UZER]

This is why the Spurs clearing cap space for different big FA classes does no good for them. Nobody wants to come here. We always end up with scrubs / leftovers, or empty handed and just resigning our own scrub players (ie Bonner), then act like that's who they wanted all along. Duncan has kept us afloat through these years, but there were missed opportunities along the way, and his run is quickly coming to an end.

Until the Spurs take a flyer on one of these "non spurs" type players in a trade first and foremost, or free agency as the fall back, none of these other players will ever want to come here. The culture established here is not welcoming to certain personality types and you better believe players around the league talk. Thats not necessarily a bad thing either, but its a reciprocity thing. One doesn't allow the other which, in turn, doesn't allow the first, so we're continuously in this cycle.

With all that said, well see who ends up here.

[ace3g]

Spurs pitch to Granger: "If Boylen can get Ayres playing time, you have no worries"

[teddygreen]

http://static.move.com/blogs/2012/9/0919granger1.jpg
here's a picture of his house in LA

[Blackjack]

Sources: Clippers are frontrunners to land Danny Granger (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--clippers-are-frontrunners-to-land-danny-granger-220910360-nba.html)

Meh . . .

[thunderup]

:lol the Spurs are not going to land anyone. Nobody wants to go play there. That ship is sinking.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

:lol the Spurs are not going to land anyone. Nobody wants to go play there. That ship is sinking.

:lmao you couldn't even get to the WCF with a market just as shitty, tbh..

[Blackjack]

lol "The Robert Horry role".

[Mugen]

:lol the Spurs are not going to land anyone. Nobody wants to go play there. That ship is sinking.

:lol Name the last free agent that signed w/ OKC tbh

[LakerHater]

438807548301283328

[GB20]

lol "The Robert Horry role".
it means, we only need you in the playoffs

[objective]

:lol Name the last free agent that signed w/ OKC tbh

Derek Fisher?

Even broken down, he's still about 1000% better than Corey Joseph

[look_at_g_shred]

The robert horry role won a championship tbh..

[objective]

What is McDonald blathering about? The Spurs wouldn't give Jackson more minutes than better players like Green. It's not like Jackson was getting DNP-CDs, he was playing 20 damn minutes a game.

Hell, Granger for Indy only played 2.7 minutes more per game than Jackson did last year.

McDonald is such a McDonald. People around Granger's camp are probably gonna see that, and say, "Even the Spurs beat writer is saying Danny won't get minutes! The Beat Writer is saying that they cut Jackson because they wouldn't give him any minutes! You're right to go to LA, Danny! Don't listen to Pop."

Thanks Jeff.

[look_at_g_shred]

These sources act as if we have no starters on the team. Like if there are so many minutes just waiting to be taken :lol

[Duncan2177]

Derek Fisher?

Even broken down, he's still about 1000% better than Corey Joseph

Joseph plays better defense than fishface.

[LakerHater]

438808487846354944

[MeloHype]

:lol Name the last free agent that signed w/ OKC tbh
Thabeet :lol

[loveforthegame]

I hope the Spurs don't settle for Jamison. :bang

I'd rather they take a chance on Metta or Fredette if they strike out on Granger.

Better yet not sign anyone. Assuming no other notable names are bought out.

[Blackjack]

To this day, I don't know if people really understand who Horry was as a player, how valuable he was to his teams and what it meant for players to have them on their team.

That man would be playing a role on whatever All-Time Team I put together.

Wouldn't mind Granger, but he ain't dat dude.

[RD2191]

Man fuck Granger, same ol same ol, some wannabe balla dismisses the Spurs and the Spurs end up sweeping his ass in the playoffs. Business as usual.

[bklynspursfan]

I think Pop & Co pull thru when they meet with him (assuming no one claims him off waivers) I think they can sell the culture there and relate it to the small market where he was in Indy.

[TE]

Meh, whatever. I expect him not to join the team. Saves the slight disappointment tbh.

[benefactor]

To this day, I don't know if people really understand who Horry was as a player, how valuable he was to his teams and what it meant for players to have them on their team.

That man would be playing a role on whatever All-Time Team I put together.

Wouldn't mind Granger, but he ain't dat dude.
MWP is closer to Horry than Granger is.

Good to see you, old friend.

[Mugen]

:lol Might as well not bother posting Jeff Mac's tweets since he's pretty much just refreshing Woj's twitter for his "insider info" tbh

[crc21209]

Sources: Clippers are frontrunners to land Danny Granger (http://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--clippers-are-frontrunners-to-land-danny-granger-220910360-nba.html)

Meh . . .

Really can't believe anyone or anything this point. Just yesterday the Spurs were the "frontrunners," now its the Clippers? Can't believe anyone now tbh. All we have to do is wait and see what happens Friday. If Granger doesnt listen to what RC and a Hall of Fame coach like Pop have to say, the fuck him and let him go to an average coach like Doc Rivers and a team like the Clippers who havent gotten out of the 2nd round in ages...

[SpurPadre]

Is Redick a lock to return this year? Bulging disc sounds pretty serious.

Bulging disc? I hope Steve Levy on ESPN gets to announce that, lol.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LzBx--DgII

[Blackjack]

MWP is closer to Horry than Granger is.

Good to see you, old friend.

THC fo' life . . . :smokin

[objective]

Good lord, McDonald is TERRIBLE.

Jackson's 2.7 less mpg last year is SOOOOOOOOO important to remember, because ???

I hope he's not drinking and writing.

[td4mvp2k]

Really can't believe anyone or anything this point. Just yesterday the Spurs were the "frontrunners," now its the Clippers? Can't believe anyone now tbh. All we have to do is wait and see what happens Friday. If Granger doesnt listen to what RC and a Hall of Fame coach like Pop have to say, the fuck him and let him go to an average coach like Doc Rivers and a team like the Clippers who havent gotten out of the 2nd round in ages...:cry

[crc21209]

:cry

Just stating facts son. Truth bombs...

[SpurPadre]

Man fuck Granger, same ol same ol, some wannabe balla dismisses the Spurs and the Spurs end up sweeping his ass in the playoffs. Business as usual.

Yeah, if he goes to the Clips as expected now, then it's just typical numbskull mentality from these dudes nowadays where they think they're too cool for San Antonio and want to "keep it real" and be all about night-life status. I was hoping he was above that but perhaps not. Oh well, what can you do?

[Texas_Ranger]

Granger look pretty bad tbh. I wouldn't mind him, but Clark would have been much better. Sucks he's gone.

[Mugen]

^:lol tbh

[td4mvp2k]

Fact dat u :cry... :tu

[benefactor]

THC fo' life . . . :smokin
:lol...good times.

[benefactor]

Good lord, McDonald is TERRIBLE.

Jackson's 2.7 less mpg last year is SOOOOOOOOO important to remember, because ???

I hope he's not drinking and writing.
Posting tweets from MySA beat writers is wasting bandwith, tbh.

[Mel_13]

:lol @ the narrative developing over the last few pages.

If Granger chooses a team that offers a larger role in a city where he already owns a home then we can blame Pop and RC for not trying hard enough.

[Mel_13]

THC fo' life . . . :smokin

:smokin

[SpurPadre]

:lol @ the narrative developing over the last few pages.

If Granger chooses a team that offers a larger role in a city where he already owns a home then we can blame Pop and RC for not trying hard enough.

Ok, so you knew that information no one else cared to find out. Can't blame people for reacting that way nor expect every fan to know where players own homes, lol.

[timtonymanu]

Yeah exactly Granger picking SA over the Clips seems like a longshot.

If the FO can convince him to sign here, then props.

[RD2191]

I really don't give a shit if he comes here or not. I just hate phony "I wanna win" players. The only real contenders in the west are OKC and SA.

[SpurPadre]

Yeah exactly Granger picking SA over the Clips seems like a longshot.

If the FO can convince him to sign here, then props.

Reminds me of when we were competing with them to get Caron Butler a few years ago...and we lost.

[monkeypunk]

I really don't give a shit if he come here or not. I just hate phony "I wanna win" players. The only real contenders in the west are OKC and SA.

Totally agreed. If that is his mindset then good riddance to him. He has to know on some level that it ain't gonna happen in LA so stop the pretending...

[SpurPadre]

I really don't give a shit if he come here or not. I just hate phony "I wanna win" players. The only real contenders in the west are OKC and SA.

Caron Butler said that when he had a chance to come to the Spurs and then he chose the Clips and we ended up sweeping his fucking ass right out of the playoffs right after.

[RD2191]

Caron Butler said that when he had a chance to come to the Spurs and then he chose the Clips and we ended up sweeping his fucking ass right out of the playoffs right after.
:lolThey never learn.

[Mel_13]

Reminds me of when we were competing with them to get Caron Butler a few years ago...and we lost.

And some of the same people were blaming the FO on that one, even though the Clippers offered him 8M per year and the Spurs couldn't offer more than 5M. Same with Maggette a few years before that. It's the same old tune.

[Mugen]

Spurs make up that extra 3million by being a classier organization...

[Mel_13]

I really don't give a shit if he come here or not. I just hate phony "I wanna win" players. The only real contenders in the west are OKC and SA.

I never believe professional athletes who say it's all about winning. Money, and the potential to earn more money before they retire, is always a factor.

[Hoops Czar]

Oh, how quickly the tide has turned. First, it was no way he'd pick the Clippers over the Spurs. They're stacked at SF. Plus the Spurs have Boylen. Now, it's Granger picking SA over the Clips is a long shot. Why it was just yesterday that the Spurs were frontrunners because of sources.What changed????

[Mel_13]

Spurs make up that extra 3million by being a classier organization...

:lol

Can't make it rain with class.

[timtonymanu]

Reminds me of when we were competing with them to get Caron Butler a few years ago...and we lost.

Yeah I remember Butler ultimately chose the Clippers because of the money.

A lot of people on here were getting excited over the thought of amnestying RJ and having Leonard/Butler at the 3. :lol

[Dex]

And some of the same people were blaming the FO on that one, even though the Clippers offered him 8M per year and the Spurs couldn't offer more than 5M. Same with Maggette a few years before that. It's the same old tune.

Some posters just seem to think that NBA front offices run on pixie dust and unicorn farts.

[Chinook]

Oh, how quickly the tide has turned. First, it was no way he'd pick the Clippers over the Spurs. They're stacked at SF. Plus the Spurs have Boylen. Now, it's Granger picking SA over the Clips is a long shot. Why it was just yesterday that the Spurs were frontrunners because of sources.What changed????

Nothing. Granger knows where he wants to go. People thinking Pop's gonna change his mind are kidding themselves. The reports are either right or they aren't.

[SpurPadre]

And some of the same people were blaming the FO on that one, even though the Clippers offered him 8M per year and the Spurs couldn't offer more than 5M. Same with Maggette a few years before that. It's the same old tune.

I don't blame the FO, I blame the players for not getting the "I'm too cool for them" mindset out the way.

[heyheymymy]

:smokin


:hat:elephant

[SpurPadre]

Yeah I remember Butler ultimately chose the Clippers because of the money.

A lot of people on here were getting excited over the thought of amnestying RJ and having Leonard/Butler at the 3. :lol

Because of the money and the nightlife and because it was L.A. and thus, more exposure. That's how the culture is working nowadays.

[Mugen]

Because of the money and the nightlife and because it was L.A. and thus, more exposure. That's how the culture is working nowadays.

http://i.imgur.com/Owxi9.gif

[ace3g]

Lets hope all the SFs for the Clippers have breakout games

[SpurPadre]

http://i.imgur.com/Owxi9.gif

Hahaha, I'm the last person to be like that but I'd rather NBA players be more open-minded about where they play.

[GB20]

:lol @ the narrative developing over the last few pages.

If Granger chooses a team that offers a larger role in a city where he already owns a home then we can blame Pop and RC for not trying hard enough.
well, i am sure he will smell like a dead donkey because california is running out of water :lol