Buyout Watch Thread

[Floyd Pacquiao]

San Antonio isnt "black enough" for Granger, he's headed to LA imo.

[Mel_13]

well, i am sure he will smell like a dead donkey because california is running out of water :lol

:lol

I had forgotten about that incident until somebody bumped that old thread.

[Tuddy]

He said a contender that rules out the Clippers

[Mugen]

Hahaha, I'm the last person to be like that but I'd rather NBA players be more open-minded about where they play.

Give me 10million a year and I'd even play in a shithole like Oklahoma City tbh. Most NBA players would follow suit, I guarantee it.

[callo1]

Wow.

This cycle repeats itself over and over. If Granger chooses the Clips over the Spurs, so be it. Why do people on this forum get so sensitive that they have to vilify the guy??

Good luck to you wherever you go Danny. I hope you fully recover and have a chance to play a meaningful role for a contender.

[Blackjack]

:lol...good times.


:smokin

'Jack still lurks from time-to-time. Always great to see y'all still getting after it. Hope all is well with the fam, Obi and bene. :toast

[Dex]

What amuses me is that this whole buyout situation is totally inflating Granger's worth. His knee has really sapped the talent that most people are remembering, and he's looked like a shell of his former self since he returned.

Whether Granger goes to LA or SA, he will likely be a bit player filling 10-15 mpg, and probably won't be a huge factor in the playoffs.

[timtonymanu]

What amuses me is that this whole buyout situation is totally inflating Granger's worth. His knee has really sapped the talent that most people are remembering, and he's looked like a shell of his former self since he returned.

Whether Granger goes to LA or SA, he will likely be a bit player filling 10-15 mpg, and probably won't be a huge factor in the playoffs.

:lol Exactly. This isn't the Danny Granger that was an all-star. Truth be told, he shouldn't be getting a lot of minutes even if he chooses the Clippers.

He won't put the Spurs over the top, tbh. None of these guys waived will.

[tholdren]

Wow.

This cycle repeats itself over and over. If Granger lips over the Spurs, so be it. Why do peo. ple on this forum get so sensitive that they have to vilify the guy??

Good luck to you wherever you go Danny. I hope you fully recover and have a chance to play a meaningful role for a contender.

Fuck you. If granger comes here Ill buy a jersey, if not, then i hope he gets a career ending injury, his Dick falls off, and someone dips their balls in his traitor_ass mouth.
#keepit1hunded

[Chomag]

but but the FO tried! This seems to be the words every-time just about every year...

[TD 21]

:lol @ the narrative developing over the last few pages.

If Granger chooses a team that offers a larger role in a city where he already owns a home then we can blame Pop and RC for not trying hard enough.

The reality is this: The last relatively big name(s) that weren't mixed, foreign, or white, that chose the Spurs, were McDyess in '09 and Finley in '05. The former chose them because he lived in Houston and was basically out of options, as far as the combination of MLE money, a potential starting role and to play for one of the better teams in the league (yet despite that, it still took him unusually long to accept their offer). The latter chose them because he wanted to continue living in Texas and to get revenge on the team that amnestied him, who just so happened to be the Spurs arch rivals at the time, or at least viewed themselves as such.

Even in Duncan's prime, none of them picked the Spurs. And I don't want to hear about the market; it's been repeatedly proven that players go to where they think they have the best chance to win and at one time, that was definitely the Spurs. So if it's not for either of the two reasons I cited earlier, why didn't/don't they?

[spurraider21]

The spurs sales pitch has to be about state income tax and easier gun laws in Texas

[tholdren]

The reality is this: The last relatively big name(s) that weren't mixed, foreign, or white, that chose the Spurs, were McDyess in '09 and Finley in '05. The former chose them because he lived in Houston and was basically out of options, as far as the combination of MLE money, a potential starting role and to play for one of the better teams in the league (yet despite that, it still took him unusually long to accept their offer). The latter chose them because he wanted to continue living in Texas and to get revenge on the team that amnestied him, who just so happened to be the Spurs arch rivals at the time, or at least viewed themselves as such.

Even in Duncan's prime, none of them picked the Spurs. And I don't want to hear about the market; it's been repeatedly proven that players go to where they think they have the best chance to win and at one time, that was definitely the Spurs. So if it's not for either of the two reasons I cited earlier, why didn't/don't they?
Mcdoosh fucking blew

[TD 21]

Mcdoosh fucking blew

Obviously, he was on his last legs, but I mean in terms of credibility. He was a former All-Star and Olympian and had had a good career.

[Chewbacca]

but but the FO tried! This seems to be the words every-time just about every year...

:tu

[Prime Time]

but but the FO tried! This seems to be the words every-time just about every year...
Really? I feel like we see this every year V
"Well, The FO did it again. They failed to bring in an all-star and now we're all going to sink in the shit diaper the FO wore to work this morning. Fuck this team, Poor Tim Duncan. He doesn't deserve this, Damn... Stupid Pop won't unleash ___, Stupid role players can't play like All-Stars, And fuck Manu/TP beacuse ____. Not to mention our Silver Dancers who can't 'dance' for crap. How DARE other franchises for not giving us a gifted, athletic, starting-caliber Forward in exchange of Bonner/Cojo/Some other scrub. We could've even thrown in our 28th pick for crying out loud! This team is NOT built for a playoff run. Sorry Duncan :depressed"

[Chomag]

Sure it may work once or twice but sooner or later if I told my bosses at work that at least I tried they would start to wonder why they are keeping me around. Just saying lol

[Clipper Nation]

Because of the money and the nightlife and because it was L.A. and thus, more exposure. That's how the culture is working nowadays.

Let's be real now, if all he wanted was "exposure," he'd be choosing between the Lakers, Knicks, and Heat, not the Spurs and Clippers....

[Aztecfan03]

Come on he doesn't what to come out here and pay California taxes.

[xmas1997]

Let's be real now, if all he wanted was "exposure," he'd be choosing between the Lakers, Knicks, and Heat, not the Spurs and Clippers....

This is a no-brainer!
The Clips are he new glamour team of L. A.
The Spurs are .........

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Let's be real now, if all he wanted was "exposure," he'd be choosing between the Lakers, Knicks, and Heat, not the Spurs and Clippers....

Yes, but the Clippers are relevant and are in LA too. Clips get a lot more exposure than the Spurs, tbh..

[monkeypunk]

This is a no-brainer!
The Clips are he new glamour team of L. A.
The Spurs are .........

Winners.

If he values winning, he'll come here. If he doesn't, he'll go to LA.

Simple as that.

[Pako]

I don't think Granger is a player that needs exposure.... May be during his prime yes, but not at this point of his career. I think he will select the team that he thinks will have a good chance to compete in finals.... You can say Spurs has better chance to compete, but so as the Clippers...This will boil down to which team badly want Granger in their roster.

[xmas1997]

I don't think Granger is a player that needs exposure.... May be during his prime yes, but not at this point of his career. I think he will select the team that he thinks will have a good chance to compete in finals.... You can say Spurs has better chance to compete, but so as the Clippers...This will boil down to which team badly want Granger in their roster.


And it will boil down to how much sense Granger has inside his head.

[moisaenz]

I don't think Granger is a player that needs exposure.... May be during his prime yes, but not at this point of his career. I think he will select the team that he thinks will have a good chance to compete in finals.... You can say Spurs has better chance to compete, but so as the Clippers...This will boil down to which team badly want Granger in their roster.

So you are saying the clippers have as much chance as the spurs in being contenders.. If granger wont be the savior of the spurs, how is he going to be the savior of the Clippers?

[Uriel]

It is a sad day when a highly sought-after basketball free agent passes up the Spurs in favor of the Clippers.

[xmas1997]

So you are saying the clippers have as much chance as the spurs in being contenders.. If granger wont be the savior of the spurs, how is he going to be the savior of the Clippers?


It really doesn't matter what any of us think.
It's whether Granger thinks the Clips are a contender on not that matters.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It really doesn't matter what any of us think.
It's whether Granger thinks he can get playing time and make a difference. It's his contract year.

fify

[Dex]

It is a sad day when a highly sought-after basketball free agent passes up the Spurs in favor of the Clippers.

Just goes to show how far hype will take you. Even the players closest to the game buy into it.

Anybody who wants to compare the Clippers to the Spurs as contenders has obviously been drinking the Koolaid. Spurs have to be the clear advantage. Are you going to take the 4-time champion, defending WCF champions with the majority of the Finals core returning, or the perennially-misguided Clippers who have never even seen the Western Conference Finals? The Clippers are good, but have done nothing to prove that they are more than just show.

The question, at this point, is how much those other factors..his LA home, the increased exposure, more playing time...mean to Granger compared to contending. He'll still win a lot of games in Lob Angeles...but if I had to pick a horse in the race, I'd have to go with the Spurs over the Clippers.

The Spurs have some other advantages to offer Granger, as well. They've got a model organization, Hall of Fame core and coach, former coach Boylen, and I also think that Granger could carve out plenty of time in the rotation if he performed well enough to earn it. The Spurs still have no backup SF, and would also experiment with Granger at everything from the 2 to the 4 if he was capable of it.

Either way, the speculation is entertaining, but all we can really do is wait.

[DPG21920]

RC has been a virtual ghost this year. This is probably the least I have heard, read or seen of him from what I can remember. With the questionable off season/trade deadline, I really wonder if that DUI has messed with him?

[benefactor]

The Clippers are a talented...but they are poorly coached and mentally weak. I don't get why anyone is afraid of them. This Spurs team(if healthy) as they are build right now could take them in six or likely less.

[benefactor]

RC has been a virtual ghost this year. This is probably the least I have heard, read or seen of him from what I can remember. With the questionable off season/trade deadline, I really wonder if that DUI has messed with him?
Closet alcoholic?

[Prime Time]

Put Danny on the their point-guard and suddenly the Clippers are zoned out. Warriors suffer the same fate, tbh.

It's the teams who have star swing-men/athletic bigs (Houston/OKC) That put the OP in Popovich.

[Hoops Czar]

Yes, but the Clippers are relevant and are in LA too. Clips get a lot more exposure than the Spurs, tbh..

Damn fool. The Lakers and Knicks aren't contenders and the Heat want Butler or he would be signing with one of those teams.

[callo1]

Fuck you. If granger comes here Ill buy a jersey, if not, then i hope he gets a career ending injury, his Dick falls off, and someone dips their balls in his traitor_ass mouth.
#keepit1hunded

Class and internet courage are a great combination:)

[spurraider21]

The Clippers are a talented...but they are poorly coached and mentally weak. I don't get why anyone is afraid of them. This Spurs team(if healthy) as they are build right now could take them in six or likely less.
Granger probably respects Rivers though, considering he had to go up against Boston during Rivers' tenure there. Also, there is no doubt he'd play more for the Clippers than he would for the Spurs. The only hope is that George Hill, Brett Brown, and even Hibbert gave him good word about the Spurs

[spurraider21]

Winners.

If he values winning, he'll come here. If he doesn't, he'll go to LA.

Simple as that.
keep in mind he's in the last year of his contract. How much can he really show/prove in the role the Spurs will give him? That he can be a good soldier/bench warmer on a good team? Would watching him play 10 mpg earn him another contract? Or does he have a better shot of doing that with the Clips, where he'd get significant playoff minutes. It's not like the Clippers are slouches either. They're a great team as well.

[xmas1997]

Class and internet courage are a great combination:)

And mean a lot to someone of good sense and intelligence.
Does Granger possess those traits?

[exstatic]

keep in mind he's in the last year of his contract. How much can he really show/prove in the role the Spurs will give him? That he can be a good soldier/bench warmer on a good team? Would watching him play 10 mpg earn him another contract? Or does he have a better shot of doing that with the Clips, where he'd get significant playoff minutes. It's not like the Clippers are slouches either. They're a great team as well.
30 minutes per game for 10 games or 15 minutes for 20 games? Works out about the same.

[Robz4000]

Going to the Clippers tbh. Was hoping they'd go for MWP, but I guess they really will start Granger.

[Johnny RIngo]

The front office has been awful this year. Possibly the worst in the Duncan era. Lost Coach Bud and Brown and replaced them with Boylen and Udoka. Brought in D-League quality talent in Ayres and Daye. Belli was decent but he's more of a lateral move to fill in for Neal. Would not be surprised if they ended up signing Jimmer.

[HI-FI]

The front office has been awful this year. Possibly the worst in the Duncan era. Lost Coach Bud and Brown and replaced them with Boylen and Udoka. Brought in D-League quality talent in Ayres and Daye. Belli was decent but he's more of a lateral move to fill in for Neal. Would not be surprised if they ended up signing Jimmer.
that's depressing. I have to wonder if the Finals hangover turned into a prolonged drunken hangover. Fuck I hope this isn't how it will end for Duncan.

[Ditty]

I know Johnny Ringo is trolling but enjoy it guys while it lasts win or lose. Spurs front office isn't perfect as many seem other teams seem to think around the league. Seven years without a NBA championship is pretty depressing in our standards, but we can be bad the next few seasons when the big three are gone at best.

[Johnny RIngo]

I know Johnny Ringo is trolling but enjoy it guys while it lasts win or lose. Spurs front office isn't perfect as many seem other teams seem to think around the league. Seven years without a NBA championship is pretty depressing in our standards, but we can be bad the next few seasons when the big three are gone at best.

Not trolling. Just stating the truth. Missing out on Granger isn't really that big a deal since he's mostly washed-up but the front office does deserve criticism for refusing to address the problems in our frontcourt and wing. We needed a backup SF and they refused to sign one all summer. We expected them to bring someone in during all-star break. Nope - ended up trading for one of the worst players in the league in Daye. And who the hell thought Ayres was worth a portion of the MLE? He's a 27-year old project big with D-League level skills. He didn't deserve anything more than the minimum.

[slick'81]

Granger could start in la he won't in sa end of story

[xmas1997]

Granger could start in la he won't in sa end of story

Doc will make promises like that, Pop won't, it has to be earned here.

[Sean Cagney]

Granger could start in la he won't in sa end of story

Yep, and that is why he will go there IMO. I just don't have that feeling he will sign here.

[tholdren]

Yep, and that is why he will go there IMO. I just don't have that feeling he will sign here.
who cares? if we had to have granger to win, safe to say we suck balls

[Johnny RIngo]

who cares? if we had to have granger to win, safe to say we suck balls

Granger stinks but it wouldn't hurt to have an actual SF on the bench instead of Jimmer.

[Sean Cagney]

who cares? if we had to have granger to win, safe to say we suck balls

Thats true, didn't say I really cared one way or another. Granger looks pretty done this year IMO. We need another SF but is he the answer at backup? Not the way he is playing this year.

That being said I doubt he signs here so the ones in here getting their hopes up for it then so be it . I want the Spurs to get healthy and start getting on a roll for the real season.


Granger stinks but it wouldn't hurt to have an actual SF on the bench instead of Jimmer.

Yeah he is pretty shitty this year TBH.

[Ice009]

Thats true, didn't say I really cared one way or another. Granger looks pretty done this year IMO. We need another SF but is he the answer at backup? Not the way he is playing this year.

That being said I doubt he signs here so the ones in here getting their hopes up for it then so be it . I want the Spurs to get healthy and start getting on a roll for the real season.



Yeah he is pretty shitty this year TBH.

I haven't watched the Pacers much this season. Have you watched many of their games?

[crc21209]

Doc will make promises like that, Pop won't, it has to be earned here.

Doc might as well promise a 2nd round exit as well...

[xmas1997]

Doc might as well promise a 2nd round exit as well...


:lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

This has a "Michael Finley" vibe to me tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Doc might as well promise a 2nd round exit as well...
He'll also promise him that he'll get his dick sucked by a Kardashian.

[HI-FI]

People always say players don't want to be in SA, but I also wonder how much of it is Pop or RC's attitude or ability to get certain guys to buy in. If Pop is doing the "my way or the highway, take it or leave it" approach, that could be part of the reason.

[exstatic]

He'll also promise him that he'll get his dick sucked by a Kardashian.

Lamar doesn't play for the Clippers any more...

[xmas1997]

When Pop wants a particular player he goes out of his way to get him.
Has he done this with Granger?

[exstatic]

People always say players don't want to be in SA, but I also wonder how much of it is Pop or RC's attitude or ability to get certain guys to buy in. If Pop is doing the "my way or the highway, take it or leave it" approach, that could be part of the reason.

I don't think he probably even has to say it. Frankly, if that's a turn off, they probably wouldn't do well here anyway.

[exstatic]

When Pop wants a particular player he goes out of his way to get him.
Has he done this with Granger?

I snuck into his house, but couldn't quite hear the whole conversation from inside his kitchen pantry.

[Hoops Czar]

When Pop wants a particular player he goes out of his way to get him.
Has he done this with Granger?

Which player(s) are you referring to?

[HI-FI]

I don't think he probably even has to say it. Frankly, if that's a turn off, they probably wouldn't do well here anyway.
Yeah I don't mind if Pop et al don't bend to divas, that's commendable. I just think that SA isn't so much the reason, it's probably the idea of embracing a role imo. Especially when so many teams are inept and let overpaid guys do what they want. though LA is obviously a bigger destination than SA so it could be that, plus Doc having a heart to heart with him.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I snuck into his house, but couldn't quite hear the whole conversation from inside his kitchen pantry.

Pretty much this. xmas1997 don't really know where you are going with this.

[SpurPadre]

People always say players don't want to be in SA, but I also wonder how much of it is Pop or RC's attitude or ability to get certain guys to buy in. If Pop is doing the "my way or the highway, take it or leave it" approach, that could be part of the reason.
Shaq recently confirmed that players around the league would love to play for Pop but that San Antonio isn't a city that draws their attention in terms of living the nightlife. Say what you want about Shaq but that dude is still in touch with the players in the league.

[SpurPadre]

Lamar doesn't play for the Clippers any more...
Like that matters to those whores?

[ace3g]

Ramona ShelburneVerified account ‏@ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne) Granger's reps are at the Clipper game and mtg with team officials tonight, but Rockets also making a push so several reasons to be here.

[xmas1997]

Which player(s) are you referring to?

Rasho for one. Finley is another.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Ramona ShelburneVerified account ‏@ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne) Granger's reps are at the Clipper game and mtg with team officials tonight, but Rockets also making a push so several reasons to be here.

Eh... damn.

[TheGoldStandard]

Eh, i bet we get the, "This is what the clip are offering, what can you give us"... All Pop has to do is wear his 4 rings to the interview and tap his fingers on the desk.

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

Havent been keeping up with the Granger news that much these couple of days..
So its looking like hes going to the Clippers tho ????

[ace3g]

Hey Granger, Big Baby looks pleased to be with the Clippers:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhc9LZUCMAA-_zx.jpg:large

and hasn't played any minutes yet

[Sean Cagney]

I haven't watched the Pacers much this season. Have you watched many of their games?
I saw a few, he was shooting around 8 ppg and shooting .355%, THAT sounds similar to Jax when he was about done. I would not expect much from him at this point.

[Ice009]

Granger isn't serious about coming to the Spurs. Probably using us like everyone else. Philly never should have fucking bought him out. Should've let him sit on the bench the rest of the season.

[Uriel]

It would be a shame if Granger didn't go the Spurs. He would really fit into the organization's culture--he's extremely intelligent.

Granger scored a 30 on the ACT, which is roughly equivalent to 2000 on the SAT. His IQ is in the top 2% of the world population, putting his intelligence on the "Gifted" level. That means he's smart enough to join a high-IQ society like Mensa.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Ramona ShelburneVerified account ‏@ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne) Granger's reps are at the Clipper game and mtg with team officials tonight, but Rockets also making a push so several reasons to be here.

It would be good if Spurs are given the chance to make their push last.

[Chinook]

It would be a shame if Granger didn't go the Spurs. He would really fit into the organization's culture--he's extremely intelligent.

Granger score a 30 on the ACT, which is roughly equivalent to 2000 on the SAT. That means his IQ is approximately in the top 2% of the world population. That puts his intelligence on the "Gifted" level and makes it high enough to allow him to join a high-IQ society like Mensa.

Lol at thinking SAT scores are comparable to intellect. Anyone who studies can get a 2000.

[spurraider21]

:lol thinking 2000 SAT makes you a genius

[crc21209]

Ramona ShelburneVerified account ‏@ramonashelburne (https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne) Granger's reps are at the Clipper game and mtg with team officials tonight, but Rockets also making a push so several reasons to be here.

Rockets? :lol. Won't be many minutes to be had there since Harden and Parsons each play like 40 mins a game at the 2 and 3 spot anyway...

[crc21209]

Hey Granger, Big Baby looks pleased to be with the Clippers:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bhc9LZUCMAA-_zx.jpg:large

and hasn't played any minutes yet

You'd figure he would get minutes tonight against the bigs of the Rockets and with the lack of bigs the Clippers have on their bench.

[Uriel]

Lol at thinking SAT scores are comparable to intellect. Anyone who studies can get a 2000.
The SAT is an aptitude test. By it's very nature, it's designed to measure innate ability, not academic achievement. Studying can only elevate your score by so much, but those who score highest on it have significant cognitive ability relative to their peers.

[Uriel]

:lol thinking 2000 SAT makes you a genius
I said "Gifted" not "Genius."

But that's beside the point. For somebody who plays basketball for a living, 2,000 is a ridiculously high score. Heck, most people in SpursTalk probably failed to score that high when they took their SAT's.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Something I read off the Clutchfans own Danny Granger thread:

" Right now:

1. Clips
2. Rockets/Spurs

Talked briefly with my homie today...It all comes down to the role. The Role. Danny isn't going to be happy with 10-15 a game. He wants to contribute more than riding around for a ring.

I don't see how the Clips can offer him any of that "role" or the minutes, but Doc is a POWERHOUSE.


But, not to fear,

I heard that Danny really LIKES the Spurs, but he doesn't like how S.Jackson was booted (they're tight) and the age issue. Also, his role on that team.

They're selling the Robert Horry role (legit) and (per HoopsHype) and my dude says Danny is not a Robert Horry.

He doesn't want to come in in the last 5 minutes for heroics.

He wants consistent minutes, a role and respect. Shoot, that's why the Heat never had a chance. Danny is a stand up dude. Real recognize real. (that last part was just me http://www.clutchfans.net/bbs/images/smilies/smile.gif )"

[Chinook]

The SAT is an aptitude test. By it's very nature, it's designed to measure innate ability, not academic achievement. Studying can only elevate your score by so much, but those who score highest on it have significant cognitive ability relative to their peers.

Did you take the test at all? I have. It's literally just memorizing. There's nothing intuitive about it. You memorize words and algorithms. That's it.

And it was even easier 14 years ago when Granger was in high school. And the ACT is even easier than the SAT.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Granger isn't serious about coming to the Spurs. Probably using us like everyone else. Philly never should have fucking bought him out. Should've let him sit on the bench the rest of the season.

This is sounding more and more true unfortunately. I for one would have liked to have him on the roster, but I also am not against MWP at all either..

[ace3g]

Dudley 3-3 from 3; call it "The Granger effect"

[Chinook]

Dudley 3-3 from 3; call it "The Granger effect"

It shouldn't deter the Clips from courting Granger, but unless he can play two-guard, he should really worry about getting minutes with Dudley and Barnes playing well.

Meanwhile, LAC may need a guard. Gordon on their radar now?

[dbestpro]

If Clippers sign Granger, Clippers most likely cut Turkoglu, and Spurs might sign Turkoglu.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Dudley 3-3 from 3; call it "The Granger effect"

Make it 3-4 now

[Spur|n|Austin]

It shouldn't deter the Clips from courting Granger, but unless he can play two-guard, he should really worry about getting minutes with Dudley and Barnes playing well.

Meanwhile, LAC may need a guard. Gordon on their radar now?

Clippers looking to sign Granger, Gordon, & MWP per Amico.

[Chinook]

Clippers looking to sign Granger, Gordon, & MWP per Amico.

Wouldn't surprise me if Amico did that.

[ace3g]

damn now Barnes holding his hand...

[Spursfanfromafar]

Wouldn't surprise me if Amico did that.

Sam Amico is possibly the worst national NBA reporter now.

[Spur|n|Austin]

damn now Barnes holding his hand...

Granger effect in full effect..

[Chinook]

It's practically wrapped now if Granger is seriously considering LA.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Plan B -

Pop's only condition is for MWP to change his name back to Artest and not forget to take his daily meds..

[Ice009]

You guys can stop talking about how smart Granger is. This guy is a dumb MOFO.

This guys want guaranteed minutes? I wouldn't even guarantee him minutes, let alone Pop. Why would any contending team guarantee him minutes? If he sucks, that's going to hurt that team and that might take them out of contention, so I sure as fuck wouldn't guarantee him anything. This guy needs to realize that it's all up to him to earn minutes based on performance, not given to him. Teams don't win Championships like that.

He's not a Championship player with that attitude, and he has no confidence in his game.

[Spursfanfromafar]

You guys can stop talking about how smart Granger is. This guy is a dumb MOFO.

This guys want guaranteed minutes? I wouldn't even guarantee him minutes, let alone Pop. Why would any contending team guarantee him minutes? If he sucks, that's going to hurt that team and that might take them out of contention, so I sure as fuck wouldn't guarantee him anything. This guy needs to realize that it's all up to him to earn minutes based on performance, not given to him. Teams don't win Championships like that.

He's not a Championship player with that attitude.

Its easy for us to complain about Granger's wishes. The important thing for him is to continue in the NBA with a decent enough contract that will allow him to play for some more time. Whether he will get it by being a bench warmer in a championship contending team or a regular-semi-regular in a decent team will impact on his future. No one can begrudge his thought process considering this.

[Ice009]

Its easy for us to complain about Granger's wishes. The important thing for him is to continue in the NBA with a decent enough contract that will allow him to play for some more time. Whether he will get it by being a bench warmer in a championship contending team or a regular-semi-regular in a decent team will impact on his future. No one can begrudge his thought process considering this.

He's trying to have it all. He wants minutes, championship and to get paid after it. That is a ridiculous ask.

The only teams that should guarantee him minutes is teams that aren't contending for the Championship, otherwise, you could ruin your team's own chances if you make him a promise like that and he stinks it up. No thanks.

[Spursfanfromafar]

He's trying to have it all. He wants minutes, championship and to get paid after it. That is a ridiculous ask.

The only teams that should guarantee him minutes is teams that aren't contending for the Championship, otherwise, you could ruin your team's own chances if you make him a promise like that and he stinks it up. No thanks.

I don't think he is seeking a promise. I think he is just seeking a position where there will be playing time on a winning squad. It isn't as if there are no teams out there that can provide him that. The Clips top the list. Granger has to take a call whether he prefers to play for Doc Rivers' semi-contending squad among a crowded wing rotation or Popovich's contending squad with a even more strong wing rotation where he will best be emergency backup. There is nothing ridiculous about it. Its just due process.

My hope is that Granger will see the light in playing for the Spurs who will clearly give him minutes in the regular season as they have a clear distribution and resting policy. IF Pop and RCB convince him that way and tell him that he will get a role in the playoffs depending on the situation, what is to say that he doesnt' accept it?

[Clipper Nation]

Granger's reps were at the game tonight and are going to meet with the Clippers, btw....

[Spur|n|Austin]

Granger's reps were at the game tonight and are going to meet with the Clippers, btw....

So were the Rockets'..

[Spursfanfromafar]

Granger's reps were at the game tonight and are going to meet with the Clippers, btw....

Which gives the Spurs time to make the closing argument.

[Sean Cagney]

Buyout Watch Thread, watch others sign somewhere and move on to the real part of the regular season now and get healthy!!!!!!!!! Thats about IT and we all know it. GO SPURS GO! Chemistry.

[Uriel]

Did you take the test at all? I have. It's literally just memorizing. There's nothing intuitive about it. You memorize words and algorithms. That's it.

And it was even easier 14 years ago when Granger was in high school. And the ACT is even easier than the SAT.
Of course I did. :lol I took it just a couple of years ago, and I can tell you that today's SAT isn't nearly as simple as you make it out to be. And there's a plethora of literature that states outright that the SAT is a close-cousin of the IQ test. The guy who developed it was one of the original developers of the IQ test for the US Military, for Pete's sake.

College Board itself has attested to that.

[Chinook]

Of course I did. :lol I took it just a couple of years ago, and I can tell you that today's SAT isn't nearly as simple as you make it out to be. And there's a plethora of literature that states outright that the SAT is a close-cousin of the IQ test. The guy who developed it was one of the original developers of the IQ test for the US Military, for Pete's sake.

College Board itself has attested to that.

I took it in 2007. I doubt it's gotten that much harder. And I don't particularly think military tests are a good measurement of IQ. The SAT was incredibly easy, and even if having a high IQ makes it easier, I knew a bunch of low-IQ folks who did just fine by going to prep classes and by buying books on the matter. If a 2000 makes a person gift, society's standards have plummeted.

[spurraider21]

i took the SAT in 2008 and its nothing to write home about :lol

[Uriel]

I took it in 2007. I doubt it's gotten that much harder. And I don't particularly think military tests are a good measurement of IQ. The SAT was incredibly easy, and even if having a high IQ makes it easier, I knew a bunch of low-IQ folks who did just fine by going to prep classes and by buying books on the matter. If a 2000 makes a person gift, society's standards have plummeted.
Again, the guy plays basketball for a living. 2000 may not be high for you or me, but when you consider that the NBA is filled with high school dropouts and people who didn't finish college, then it's a fantastic score.

For comparison's sake, Derrick Rose cheated on his SAT's because he couldn't score high enough to get into college. Jason Kidd, who is currently a head coach (a job that requires plenty of cognitive ability), had to take the SAT's four times just so he could get into UC Berkeley. You know what he scored the first time he took it? 480 / 1600.

[Dverde]

I could understand Granger picking the Thunder or Rockets over us. He is an idiot if he picks the clippers. They still have horrible owner/front office. Half of their team are people who they picked up along the season. Bledsoe thrived being out of there. They got bounced in the POs by a team we swept. We hang championships/division titles they hang up pictures of themselves.

[Mal]

Why Spurs cant offer him minutes ? If he does not suck of course. Pop loves smallball. Spurs could play with 2 C's one PF/C two SF/PF two SG/SF. It all can work.

[szkorhetz]

Beno claimed by the Grizz. Thank God.

[Baam]

Beno claimed by the Grizz. Thank God.

:lol

[benefactor]

Shaq recently confirmed that players around the league would love to play for Pop but that San Antonio isn't a city that draws their attention in terms of living the nightlife. Say what you want about Shaq but that dude is still in touch with the players in the league.
Spurs should move to Austin, tbh.

[spurspokesman]

It would be good if Spurs are given the chance to make their push last.
My thoughts exactly. Save the best for last

[Obstructed_View]

Big baby must be pissed.

[jermaine]

Colin Cowherd just said Granger to the Clips.

[look_at_g_shred]

lol Clips. All these players for a 2nd round exit.

[bklynspursfan]

Colin Cowherd just said Granger to the Clips.

That guys a tool... Plus, Granger hasn't even cleared waivers.

[apalisoc_9]

metta!!!

[jermaine]

I'd love MWP. Him playing LaBron after Kawhi has played him. I'll take that any day.

[UZER]

Colin Cowherd just said Granger to the Clips.

Fuck Coward. Dude is an arrogant ass that just spouts ESPNs company line. Those radio guys don't even think for themselves anymore. Its pathetic.

I gave up on national sports talk radio awhile back.

[Prime Time]

Has Metta ever been crazy in the locker-room? I know he's batshit insane on the court, But does he have reputation of pissing off his coaches/teammates?

[Spur|n|Austin]

Has Metta ever been crazy in the locker-room? I know he's batshit insane on the court, But does he have reputation of pissing off his coaches/teammates?

No, all I've ever heard is of him being a great teammate actually.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 3h (https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/439036863295520768)
Oklahoma City and Miami have emerged as frontrunners to sign Caron Butler, with Chicago and San Antonio in pursuit too, sources tell Yahoo.

[look_at_g_shred]

Spurs didn't learn the first time? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[look_at_g_shred]

Man i Hope he goes to the thunder. Less time for Lamb/Fisher tbh...

[TheGoldStandard]

We just need an unofficial announcement already. Time to give Austin daye 20 minutes a game

[Jwash_1986]

I want crazy MWP!! Just imagine how hush players would be? Ain't no one getting out of line and that includes referees and fans. Dude ain't even got to play it's called the "intimidation factor". Name one player on Spurs current roster thatll intimidate opposing players, I'll wait? Who Jeff Ayers? Exactly no one we need a lil of they on the team come playoff time. I'm not saying MWP need to start slapping fools but his presence along will do the talking.

[Jwash_1986]

We just need an unofficial announcement already. Time to give Austin daye 20 minutes a game

[FutureMan]

They should play Daye for 20 minutes against Charlotte. Should be an easy win and they can show granger or metta or whoever that there's a good amount of pt for them.

[look_at_g_shred]

Won't be an easy win ^^

[bklynspursfan]

Spurs will lose out on Granger and sign Josh Howard... Such a Spurry thing to do. But we'll beat the Clips in the playoffs if we meet up I bet so that'll be nice.

[ace3g]

Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo
(https://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo)NBA free agent Danny Granger having phone conversations with the Spurs, Heat, Rockets, Clippers and Bulls today, a source said.

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurs will lose out on Granger and sign Josh Howard... Such a Spurry thing to do. But we'll beat the Clips in the playoffs if we meet up I bet so that'll be nice.
If and when that happens they need to pan to granger on the bench and capture the look on his face for making poor decisions. Then flash over to Daye who will have hit 2 key 3 pointers down the stretch in the Robert Horry role

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

He's going to LA. "phone conversations" - lol his reps went to the LA game as soon as he got the buyout.

[Mel_13]

He's going to LA. "phone conversations" - lol his reps went to the LA game as soon as he got the buyout.

Have you considered the possibility that his agents have their offices in LA? I would imagine that most of the major NBA agents work out of LA or NY.

[Robz4000]

He's going to LA. "phone conversations" - lol his reps went to the LA game as soon as he got the buyout.

He's also from LA, along with his agent. Prolly just had friends and family go to see a free NBA game while his agent talked with their GM.

[Budkin]

Yeah I've pretty much prepared for the official news that he's signed with the Clippers. Guessing we'll end up with Jimmer but probably just stick with what we have. Ayers was all we needed tbh.

[look_at_g_shred]

Sign up Hakim Warrick tbh...

[dbestpro]

I took it in 2007. I doubt it's gotten that much harder. And I don't particularly think military tests are a good measurement of IQ. The SAT was incredibly easy, and even if having a high IQ makes it easier, I knew a bunch of low-IQ folks who did just fine by going to prep classes and by buying books on the matter. If a 2000 makes a person gift, society's standards have plummeted.

Which military tests are you talking about? ASFAB, DLAT? Or some other test?

[mienhmario]

Shut up with all these test. Test are for fools

-coming from someone who scored in the 200's in the SAT tbw

[monkeypunk]

Yeah I've pretty much prepared for the official news that he's signed with the Clippers. Guessing we'll end up with Jimmer but probably just stick with what we have. Ayers was all we needed tbh.

Yep, he's going to LA fo sho entirely to get minutes to try to get that one last good contract. Shows you his character. Not that I blame him but i haven't already made millions upon millions and been one win from the Finals. He has so one would think that being a winner and getting to and possibly winning the Finals would be more important to him than $$ at this point in his career. But if he chooses the $$, more power to him. I wish him the best but will be glad to see his team fizzle out in the 1st round.

Really, if he does come here, he could totally rejuvenate his career and possibly get an bigger next contract than he would with LA. SA has a way of bringing players back from the dead (Diaw, Beli, etc.) but if he can't see the situation from that high of a level, he picks the Clipshow and high level mediocrity. Either way, c'est la vie.

That being said, Metta over Jimmer all day. We need a tough defender / enforcer who isn't scared of the big moment more than another shooter at this point.

[tholdren]

Why the speculation on jimmer?

[Texas_Ranger]

Why would anyone want Jimmer? Spurs need a 3 or a 4, not another guard.

[SpursFan86]

Last thing we need is another guard who can shoot but can't defend for shit. I'd rather stand pat than pick up Jimmer.

[ace3g]

Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)
Decision for Caron Butler has been tough (Heat, OKC, Bulls, Spurs) but he's expecting to decide Friday, sources said


Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)
Ben Gordon continues to talk buyout w/Charlotte but is said to resist any new deal that impacts his looming free agency in July


Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)
Teams such as Bulls, Clippers and Rockets are said to be pitching Gordon on two-year deal with team option in Year 2

[DPG21920]

Clippers getting errrrrbody

[monkeypunk]

Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)Decision for Caron Butler has been tough (Heat, OKC, Bulls, Spurs) but he's expecting to decide Friday, sources said



Tough life...

[Robz4000]

The Clippers' lack of chemistry will be their downfall, whether it's against the Spurs, Mavs, or Grizz. They can outplay the Rockets, Blazers, or Thunder on veteran and star talent, but they won't out-execute a team with great D or a great system.

[Hoops Czar]

Surprise, surprise! Clippers in on Gordon. As far as Butler's concerned, it's not a tough decision. He knows exactly where he's going. Greg Oden 2.0 "It's a tough decision" as he stands in the Heat's practice facility.

[spurraider21]

Jimmer would make a fine stretch 4

[Hoops Czar]

The Clippers' lack of chemistry will be their downfall, whether it's against the Spurs, Mavs, or Grizz. They can outplay the Rockets, Blazers, or Thunder on veteran and star talent, but they won't out-execute a team with great D or a great system.

You contradicted yourself. the Thunder play better D than the Spurs and they do have chemistry. Not sure why your lumping them in with the Rockets and Blazers.

[ace3g]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhfTh-dCAAInDMN.jpg:large

[vy65]

Since when are the clipper's colors silver and black?

[crc21209]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhfTh-dCAAInDMN.jpg:large

Is this fan made or what is this? :lol

[Robz4000]

You contradicted yourself. the Thunder play better D than the Spurs and they do have chemistry. Not sure why your lumping them in with the Rockets and Blazers.

With Westchimp their D is middle of the pack at best this season, while their system is let Durant and Westchimp do whatever. What chemistry they have is shot to hell right now too and it won't improve with Porkins out until the playoffs.

[crc21209]

Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)
Decision for Caron Butler has been tough (Heat, OKC, Bulls, Spurs) but he's expecting to decide Friday, sources said


Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)
Ben Gordon continues to talk buyout w/Charlotte but is said to resist any new deal that impacts his looming free agency in July


Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)
Teams such as Bulls, Clippers and Rockets are said to be pitching Gordon on two-year deal with team option in Year 2












Hopefully Gordon goes to the Clippers and that leaves Graner for the Spurs...

[ace3g]

Is this fan made or what is this? :lol

:stirpot:

[Mugen]

somebody ruined a perfectly good Malik Hairston jersey tbh.

[ace3g]

Sam Amick @sam_amick
(https://twitter.com/sam_amick)As @daldridgetnt (https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/) noted, I'm told Jimmer Fredette has "strong interest" in Bulls.They have liked him for a while.Kings buyout finalized today

[crc21209]

Sam Amick @sam_amick
(https://twitter.com/sam_amick)As @daldridgetnt (https://twitter.com/daldridgetnt/) noted, I'm told Jimmer Fredette has "strong interest" in Bulls.They have liked him for a while.Kings buyout finalized today



Granger to Spurs
Gordon to Clippers
Butler to Heat
Fredette to Bulls

[Mugen]

I believe the Clippers have enough spots to sign Granger and Gordon.

[crc21209]

The Clippers sound like the desperate dude at the club just trying to get every piece of pussy they can :lol

[Texas_Ranger]

Clippers will get Granger, Butler and Gordon. :rollin

[Robz4000]

Clippers want no part of Butler. They just traded him this past offseason for Redick and Dudley.

[Clipper Nation]

Clippers want no part of Butler. They just traded him this past offseason for Redick and Dudley.

We literally can't sign Butler, it hasn't been a full year yet since we traded him :lol

[Mugen]

-Regardless of who they add, the Clippers won't be able to make up the loss of Reddick if he really can't come back this season. He's their best wing and neither Gordon/Granger are capable of replicating what he added to their team tbh.

-Butler is a lock to Miami IMO which is a good pickup for them as Allen/Battier have struggled at times this season and Beasley has fallen out of the rotation.

-I'd welcome any addition to OKC that takes time away from Reggie Jackson and Lamb, both players I'm high on.

-Hoping the Spurs take another look at Metta if/when they lose out on Granger. If he's really done physically then so be it but rather give him the last spot than waste it on Antawn Jamison's corpse tbh.

[SpurPadre]

If we're talking to Butler, who's higher on the FO's wishlist? Oh well, not that it matters any ways. We're getting neither one. Fuck Butler anyways. Motherfucker has a fetish for turning us down.

[monkeypunk]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhfTh-dCAAInDMN.jpg:large

That's just mean, ace3g...

[moisaenz]

is MWP completely done? have seen no offers for him.

[rastaspur]

Looks just as done as Granger, tbh..

I tend to agree with harlem heat. At this point i can't say without a doubt that he is done from a long term and permanent perspective. I am willing to say he is done this year as far as being able to come in and be the piece to put a team in a better position to win a trophy. Dude needs to completely change the way he plays the game. He better learn to be a stretch four if he plans on extending his career.

[TheyCallMePro]

Bulls close to signing Jimmer Fredette...I'm very disappointed the Spurs didn't go after him. He leads the league in 3-pt shooting (49.5%) and would just fit in with the Spurs mold so seamlessly. Sacramento is just a garbage organization. Worst team Jimmer could have been drafted by.

He'll be a great addition to the Bulls if he signs. Still holding out hope the Spurs get back in the Jimmer sweepstakes though. It's not too late!

[cd98]

Would be fun to see Jimmer in the three point contest.

[SpursFan86]

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[Sean Cagney]

439235209544740866

Yep clear favorite so not even worth talking anymore. Like I said onto the real part of the season now that the Buyout stuff is over and we will have the same team (Which is not really bad IMO).

[DesignatedT]

Clear favorite that's taking 3 days to decide on.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Fuck Granger, tbh... We'll see how happy he is when he's glued to the bench facing us in the second round.

[CitizenDwayne]

Clear favorite that's taking 3 days to decide on.

Bingo. Seems like a smokescreen.

[Jwash_1986]

Yep clear favorite so not even worth talking anymore. Like I said onto the real part of the season now that the Buyout stuff is over and we will have the same team (Which is not really bad IMO).

[Big P]

Clear favorite that's taking 3 days to decide on.

He doesn't clear waivers until 4 pm Friday....so he really can't say anything until then or else I'm sure he would have announced it. He already has a house in LA....kinda obvious imo.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

It's funny how they remained "clear favorites".. when were they clear favorites in the first place?

[TheGoldStandard]

Quick, let's buyout Ayres maybe the Clippers will like him and sign him too..

[SpurPadre]

I think the new commish needs to start thinking about ways to keep all these big market teams from getting every player they want. The last collective bargaining agreement did fuck all to stop it so maybe they need to start thinking outside the box. How about making it so that every small to mid market team automatically gets a better draft slot than the big market teams? Something has to be done to stop this "I'm too cool to play for that team,gimme a team that has a cool nightlife" bullshit.

[AFBlue]

I think the new commish needs to start thinking about ways to keep all these big market teams from getting every player they want. The last collective bargaining agreement did fuck all to stop it so maybe they need to start thinking outside the box. How about making it so that every small to mid market team automatically gets a better draft slot than the big market teams? Something has to be done to stop this "I'm too cool to play for that team" bullshit.

Uh, star-studded teams in big markets drives ratings, which means big time revenue for the league. I'm pretty sure they're not going to get in the way of free enterprise, especially when they reap the benefit. The only way the league is for parity is if they benefit...e.g. taxing the crap out of big spenders.

[SpurPadre]

Uh, star-studded teams in big markets drives ratings, which means big time revenue for the league. I'm pretty sure they're not going to get in the way of free enterprise, especially when they reap the benefit. The only way the league is for parity is if they benefit...e.g. taxing the crap out of big spenders.
Yeah I understand but at the same time the nfl thrives with parity and one wishes the nba can work that way too.

[Big P]

Life's not fair.

[AFBlue]

Yeah I understand but at the same time the nfl thrives with parity and one wishes the nba can work that way too.

Parity in the NFL is tolerated because of fantasy football and gambling. It gives you a reason to root for the Bengals even though you have no affiliation with the team...you just need AJ Green to catch a TD on their final drive to put you over the top.

The point being, the actual product is pretty terrible (parity and all), but the league makes money hand over fist because of interest drummed up for other reasons.

The NBA doesn't have that nearly as much. It counts on TV ratings, which need big markets and "sizzle". And I don't see that model changing, even with a new commish.

[SpurPadre]

Parity in the NFL is tolerated because of fantasy football and gambling. It gives you a reason to root for the Bengals even though you have no affiliation with the team...you just need AJ Green to catch a TD on their final drive to put you over the top.

The point being, the actual product is pretty terrible (parity and all), but the league makes money hand over fist because of interest drummed up for other reasons.

The NBA doesn't have that nearly as much. It counts on TV ratings, which need big markets and "sizzle". And I don't see that model changing, even with a new commish.
You really think the actual nfl product is terrible now?

[TheGoldStandard]

Yeah I understand but at the same time the nfl thrives with parity and one wishes the nba can work that way too.

The NFL is that way because the game can't be controlled by agendas as much as the NBA can. Something drastic would have to happen in order to break up the trend of friends joining forces and dictating where they want to go, the league would have to either punish franchises who abuse the cap by severely killing there hopes to getting good players in the draft or coming up with a way to hurt the franchise for bringing in multiple max players. Something like first time offenders get taxed at the 2 to 1 or 3 to 1 depending on how much they're over, second time you lose whatever draft picks you would have had for that season, and repeated you lose draft picks for current and future drafts.

A hard cap possibly that is pretty stringent, if you max out which 3 players on a team together or even 2 can get you dangerously close then you can only offer a set minimum, like 100k to a player.. lots of players want to win championships but 100k and after taxes.. shit they'll move on.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Parity in the NFL is tolerated because of fantasy football and gambling. It gives you a reason to root for the Bengals even though you have no affiliation with the team...you just need AJ Green to catch a TD on their final drive to put you over the top.

The point being, the actual product is pretty terrible (parity and all), but the league makes money hand over fist because of interest drummed up for other reasons.

The NBA doesn't have that nearly as much. It counts on TV ratings, which need big markets and "sizzle". And I don't see that model changing, even with a new commish.

good take.

[jiggy_55]

Indiana source says granger to clippers
https://twitter.com/candacedbuckner/status/439269418095226880
439269418095226880

[ColinB]

The best part about these threads is they always end the same way. Good times.

[Prime Time]

:lol Dude just wasn't Spurs material, from inside out. Honestly, MWP seems more Spur-esque than Granger did. If only we could switch their talents.

[SpurPadre]

On to the next player who will "entertain" the notion of playing for the Spurs then choosing a big market team instead. This time, it'll be Josh Howard who'll probably play for Miami or even the Knicks.

[Beaverfuzz]

This is a blessing in disguise folks.

[TheGoldStandard]

This is a blessing in disguise folks.

Yup, Ayres will for sure dominate in the playoffs.

[Prime Time]

But really, This just shows you how boss guys like Boris, Patty and Danny are. To sign with the Spurs on a great contract despite the Team's hard-working attitude that most players would whine about because they want things 'their' way. Truly rare players in today's game.

[timtonymanu]

Good pickup for the Clips. Truth be told, he wasn't going to put any team over the top. :lol So it's not a big miss out for the Spurs.

[DeadlyDynasty]

laugh out loud!

[TheGoldStandard]

But really, This just shows you how boss guys like Boris, Patty and Danny are. To sign with the Spurs on a great contract despite the Team's hard-working attitude that most players would whine about because they want things 'their' way. Truly rare players in today's game.

International players love the Spurs, it has a very Euro feel to it and they usually have a niche role they are comfortable bringing to the Spurs. Green, well he was still considered shitty when he signed his deal.

[ace3g]

by the way https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/ doesn't exist anymore...

[spurraider21]

solid pickup by the clips. can't fault him for choosing the team where he'd get more minutes while playing in a better city. he's not some 37 year old clinging onto his last year, he's also trying to earn his next contract

[Budkin]

We all knew it was not happening... next.

[ElNono]

When the rumors started about him wanting playing time, the writing was on the wall, IMO.

[Spur|n|Austin]

by the way https://twitter.com/MettaWorldPeace/ doesn't exist anymore...

Pop is making him revert back to Artest, tbh.

[SpurPadre]

Good pickup for the Clips. Truth be told, he wasn't going to put any team over the top. :lol So it's not a big miss out for the Spurs.
When you have turds like Bonner, Ayres, Joseph and Baynes with no true SF, it is a big swing and a miss.

[TheGoldStandard]

MWP would have to find that fountain of youth that Tim had last year before that would be a good idea.

[TheGoldStandard]

When you have turds like Bonner, Ayres, Joseph and Baynes with no true SF, it is a big swing and a miss.

Oh come on... Bonner spreads the floor, Ayres is just as athletic as David Robinson and plays like a bigger better Malik Rose, Joseph is a great defensive backup PG, and Baynes is the troof at Center.

[Budkin]

Spurs gonna go with what got them this far... Jeff Ayres.

[TheGoldStandard]

Spurs gonna go with what got them this far... Jeff Ayres.

I've just started editing that MFers Wiki

[timtonymanu]

When you have turds like Bonner, Ayres, Joseph and Baynes with no true SF, it is a big swing and a miss.

Danny Granger wasn't going to put the Spurs over the top though. None of the bought out players were. The Spurs lost out more over the summer and during the trade deadline.

[Ditty]

Fuck Granger then. Hope we eliminate the Clippers like when Kenyon Martin turned down the Spurs in 2012. Get World Peace who has actually done shit in the finals. I'm buzzed peace!

[TheGoldStandard]

Danny Granger wasn't going to put the Spurs over the top though. None of the bought out players were. The Spurs lost out more over the summer and during the trade deadline.

Anyone who can eat Jeff Ayres minutes during the playoffs is a + and if you don't think Ayres is going to play then Pop has another thing coming for ya.

[Duncan2177]

Spurs gonna go with what got them this far... Jeff Ayres.

:vomit:

[Robz4000]

Just sign TMac imo.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Free agent Danny Granger informed Doc Rivers tonight that he will sign with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.

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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Free agent Danny Granger informed Doc Rivers tonight that he will sign with the Los Angeles Clippers, league sources tell Yahoo Sports.



There's that

[TheGoldStandard]

What a dumb ass

[Ditty]

Fuck your mother Granger:lmao

[timtonymanu]

In before

Free agent Antawn Jamison will sign with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. :depressed

[TheGoldStandard]

In before

Free agent Antawn Jamison will sign with the San Antonio Spurs, league sources tell Yahoo Sports. :depressed

and the subsequent, Jamison out for season with torn blah blah blah due to being a broken MFer

[SpurPadre]

International players love the Spurs, it has a very Euro feel to it and they usually have a niche role they are comfortable bringing to the Spurs. Green, well he was still considered shitty when he signed his deal.
Good point. I hope that Liver dude we drafted pans out.

[TheGoldStandard]

Good point. I hope that Liver dude we drafted pans out.

We'll find out in 5 years

[Ditty]

Enjoy playing behind Matt Barnes!

[Budkin]

Enjoy playing behind Matt Barnes!

Dude Barnes is fucked. So is Dudley. They are not happy tonight I'll tell you that.

[Clipper Nation]

Dude Barnes is fucked. So is Dudley. They are not happy tonight I'll tell you that.
They should have played better instead of shitting the bed all season long, tbh....

[Darius Bieber]

MWP doesn't fuck around tbh. He tells it how it is. I could see him on the Spurs because he wants to better himself.

[TheGoldStandard]

Dude Barnes is fucked. So is Dudley. They are not happy tonight I'll tell you that.

Good luck to Doc trying to figure out that log jam.. Too late in the year to try to bring someone in and give him significant minutes when you have chemistry with other players etc.

[apalisoc_9]

mwp!!!!!!!!!!!

[Robz4000]

:lol Spurs aren't signing MWP. Wouldn't be shocked if he ends up on the Clippers too tbh; they could use a small ball 4.

[Hoops Czar]

Boylen wasn't that big of an influence after all. He truly is good for nothing. I really coudn't imagine why a contender would be willing to allow one of their assistant coaches just walk out the door to take another assistant coaching job. It makes sense now.

[TheGoldStandard]

The truth is Granger was close to signing with the Spurs but he realized Ayres was on the team and said, "fuck it, I thought I got rid of him once before" subsequently this was the same quote his father had said when Ayres tried to get into contact with him.

[SpurPadre]

I can do without another old fuck on the team but if it means no pt for Bonner and Ayres, then antawn it is.

[TheGoldStandard]

Boylen wasn't that big of an influence after all. He truly is good for nothing. I really coudn't imagine why a contender would be willing to allow one of their assistant coaches just walk out the door to take another assistant coaching job. It makes sense now.

He was fucking Ayres

[spurs10]

Bad mistake for Granger, but he always starts his summer early. Must have tickets for a cruise in May.

[ace3g]

:lol Spurs aren't signing MWP. Wouldn't be shocked if he ends up on the Clippers too tbh; they could use a small ball 4.

Of course they aren't signing MWP, they are signing Ron Artest.

[TheGoldStandard]

I can do without another old fuck on the team but if it means no pt for Bonner and Ayres, then antawn it is.

Jamison's Corpse is better than 10 Ayres.. Wiki got pissed cause I was dropping truth bombs while editing Jeff's page.

[SpurPadre]

Jamison's Corpse is better than 10 Ayres.. Wiki got pissed cause I was dropping truth bombs while editing Jeff's page.
I think I need to do the same and edit Bonner's wiki with truth bombs too, then...like how subway turned down Bonner to pitch their sandwiches because he's a fucking scrub and instead opted to go with carrot top.

[Juggity]

I'd disagree with the statement that Jamison is better than Ayres... Jamison is truly godawful with RJ-like defense, and I want that guy nowhere near the spurs. Nobody has ever said the words "Antawn Jamison really made his team better"

[Chinook]

I didn't really want Granger. So I don't care LAC made sense for him. Obviously, I'm for MWP, but I'd be okay with Freddette or even bringing Warrick in for a workout. That guy was a poor man's version of Amir Johnson a few years ago.

[Darius Bieber]

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[Chinook]

Also, I hope Granger leads the Clips to a top-five overall record.

[spurs10]

Of course they aren't signing MWP, they are signing Ron Artest. would be nice...

[DPG21920]

Spurs FO really did a poor job this year.

[TheGoldStandard]

I think I need to do the same and edit Bonner's wiki with truth bombs too, then...like how subway turned down Bonner to pitch their sandwiches because he's a fucking scrub and instead opted to go with carrot top.

They removed my truth bombs, I explicitly stated that since Ayres name change he hasn't improved and can be argued that he's gotten worse, that he has earned the nickname "errors" since he is constantly out of position, doesn't know what he's doing and hurts the team. I was hit with the, don't post defamatory information... I quipped back with, "have you seen him play?"

[TheGoldStandard]

I'd disagree with the statement that Jamison is better than Ayres... Jamison is truly godawful with RJ-like defense, and I want that guy nowhere near the spurs. Nobody has ever said the words "Antawn Jamison really made his team better"

It still has to be better than El Matador defense of Ayres or wait till the guy is in mid air or already coming down and the basket is good to foul.. or the lets not make a play for the ball but just stand there looking up.

[SpurPadre]

would be nice...
Maybe 4 years ago.

[Chinook]

Spurs FO really did a poor job this year.

Damned straight. So many ways they could have improved, and all they did was upgrade from their ninth man and at best go sideways from their fourth big.

[SpurPadre]

They removed my truth bombs, I explicitly stated that since Ayres name change he hasn't improved and can be argued that he's gotten worse, that he has earned the nickname "errors" since he is constantly out of position, doesn't know what he's doing and hurts the team. I was hit with the, don't post defamatory information... I quipped back with, "have you seen him play?"
No wonder wiki has no prestige amongst researchers. They can't handle the truth!

[DPG21920]

Well, the good news is, outside of the Clippers who have potential to improve, no one definitively did in the West. I am very excited to see the Spurs healthy and to see if TP has another gear this season. Spurs can still be a formidable team if they can stay healthy and get a little more from some key guys.

[TheGoldStandard]

Well, the good news is, outside of the Clippers who have potential to improve, no one definitively did in the West. I am very excited to see the Spurs healthy and to see if TP has another gear this season. Spurs can still be a formidable team if they can stay healthy and get a little more from some key guys.

I have a feeling TP will be just fine but we still have that gap at backup SF but rest assured Ayres will be converted to the backup SF position this summer and we'll get the long SF we've always wanted.