Buyout Watch Thread

[loveforthegame]

I'm afraid to go to sleep. I just know when I wake up, it'll be to news that we're signing Jamison. :depressed

[Robz4000]

Well, the good news is, outside of the Clippers who have potential to improve, no one definitively did in the West. I am very excited to see the Spurs healthy and to see if TP has another gear this season. Spurs can still be a formidable team if they can stay healthy and get a little more from some key guys.

Not enough to beat OKC or Houston tbh. Getting Granger or MWP wasn't going to change that tho. Just gotta hope that Westchimp continues to drag his team down and someone else knocks off Houston.

[Sean Cagney]

Well, the good news is, outside of the Clippers who have potential to improve, no one definitively did in the West. I am very excited to see the Spurs healthy and to see if TP has another gear this season. Spurs can still be a formidable team if they can stay healthy and get a little more from some key guys.

^^^^^ THIS! They are who they are.

[RD2191]

The best part about these threads is they always end the same way. Good times.
:lmaoSo true.

[Sean Cagney]

I'm afraid to go to sleep. I just know when I wake up, it'll be to news that we're signing Jamison. :depressed

Do not worry they are not signing anyone! What we have is what we have here! Now time to try and get healthy and let the team gel the last 20 some odd games and give it their all!
:lmaoSo true.

When are idiot fans going to get it? I mean year after year the same crap and they still entertain these threads and say well we are close and we will sign so and so! THIS IS THE SPURS PEOPLE MY FUCKING GOD get it already and just move on! This is reality so no more of these stupid ass threads

[TheGoldStandard]

Do not worry they are not signing anyone! What we have is what we have here! Now time to try and get healthy and let the team gel the last 20 some odd games and give it their all!

Pop going to have the Robert Horry talk with Jeff Ayres.. "Everything you knew about basketball just forget it right this instance" Ayres instantly improves

[Chinook]

Do not worry they are not signing anyone! What we have is what we have here! Now time to try and get healthy and let the team gel the last 20 some odd games and give it their all!

When are idiot fans going to get it? I mean year after year the same crap and they still entertain these threads and say well we are close and we will sign so and so! THIS IS THE SPURS PEOPLE MY FUCKING GOD get it already and just move on! This is reality so no more of these stupid ass threads

They'll sign someone. The roster will get to 15.

[SpurPadre]

Well, the good news is, outside of the Clippers who have potential to improve, no one definitively did in the West. I am very excited to see the Spurs healthy and to see if TP has another gear this season. Spurs can still be a formidable team if they can stay healthy and get a little more from some key guys.
I think kawhi needs to take the next step from here on out for us to have a chance, tbh.

[Sean Cagney]

They'll sign someone. The roster will get to 15.

Yeah they will bring someone up from the D league or some other crap! We have what we have, period. Now time to get onto the real season as I said.

[SpurPadre]

They'll sign someone. The roster will get to 15.
Players are blue-balling us and then avoiding us like the plague. If we sign someone, it'll be otheohuohroyuesesus Jeffers again.

[RD2191]

Do not worry they are not signing anyone! What we have is what we have here! Now time to try and get healthy and let the team gel the last 20 some odd games and give it their all!

When are idiot fans going to get it? I mean year after year the same crap and they still entertain these threads and say well we are close and we will sign so and so! THIS IS THE SPURS PEOPLE MY FUCKING GOD get it already and just move on! This is reality so no more of these stupid ass threads
Like I said before, fuck Granger. Just another phony wannabe balla.

[Sean Cagney]

Like I said before, fuck Granger. Just another phony wannabe balla.
He sucked this year anyways, he was scoring 8ppg or so and shooting 35%! Jax esque last year when he wad done! One NBA exec said he was done! I read that and have no clue which one but one said it. He is done IMO, he will not make or break a team now. He is like Big Dog Robinson etc. when we had him! He is done.

[SpurPadre]

It needs to emphasized this further establishes that boylen is a good for nothing tool that was truly one of our worst signings of any off-season in the Pop era.

[TheGoldStandard]

It needs to emphasized this further establishes that boylen is a good for nothing tool that was truly one of our worst signings of any off-season in the Pop era.

He's good at pimping shitty players.

[Sean Cagney]

He's good at pimping shitty players.

HE GOT AYRES HERE!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Now take them both outta here and we can be happy.

[TheGoldStandard]

HE GOT AYRES HERE!!!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!!!!!!!! Now take them both outta here and we can be happy.

Ayres is Bonner 2.0.. fucker will be here till he retires.. getting bogus extensions and deals that boggle the mind.

[SpurPadre]

He's good at pimping shitty players.
And forgetting about the good ones.

[Austin_Toros]

Spurs will probably have to sign a scrub like Jamison now.

[cjw]

Truth is that he is getting more playing time in LA and given his age, he needs it in order to get another contract. I'd rather find a 3/4 than a straight up 3 as well - not like they're a dime a dozen.

None of these guys will smell any playoff minutes anyway...

[Sean Cagney]

BUYOUT WATCH THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA

NOW MOVE ON, as if this needed to be made anyways

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

[jermaine]

BUYOUT WATCH THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CQFEY9RIRJA

NOW MOVE ON, as if this needed to be made anyways

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8E_zMLCRNg

You an these sounds. I swear im downloanding the 2nd one for when someone tx me something stupid. Thats gonna be my reply tx. Lmmfao.

[tholdren]

I think the new commish needs to start thinking about ways to keep all these big market teams from getting every player they want. The last collective bargaining agreement did fuck all to stop it so maybe they need to start thinking outside the box. How about making it so that every small to mid market team automatically gets a better draft slot than the big market teams? Something has to be done to stop this "I'm too cool to play for that team,gimme a team that has a cool nightlife" bullshit.
Unfortunately there is a demographic out there that needs to be in da clubs

[benefactor]

Still holding out hope for my nig MWP.

[AFBlue]

Still holding out hope for my nig MWP.

This...despite what the E-N shill says.

[Mel_13]

:lol @ the narrative developing over the last few pages.

If Granger chooses a team that offers a larger role in a city where he already owns a home then we can blame Pop and RC for not trying hard enough.

Oh, SpursTalk, you are nothing if totally predictable. Can't wait for the first time Granger knocks down a couple of 3s and the Granger stat line thread pops up.

[Bruno]

So, Granger has picked the Clippers, Spurs aren't interested in Artest and Butler seems unlikely. It looks like Spurs will come up empty on the bought out players front.

Regarding the 15th roster spot, there will be a point when Spurs will decide that the available vets aren't better than who they have at the end of the bench (Joseph, Daye and Baynes). In that case, it will make sense to go with a project for that last spot with next year in mind.

[Beaverfuzz]

Yup, Ayres will for sure dominate in the playoffs.

You do not insult the name of Pendergraph. Be prepared to watch 48 hours of Pendergraph blowing layups over and over and over.

[ace3g]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Caron Butler has agreed to sign with the Oklahoma City Thunder, a league source tells Yahoo Sports.

[cd98]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Caron Butler has agreed to sign with the Oklahoma City Thunder, a league source tells Yahoo Sports.



Ouch.

[SpursFan86]

Fuck.

[DesignatedT]

butler blows. hopefully he gets extended minutes when we play them.

[benefactor]

rofl

That's good for the Spurs.

[Mel_13]

butler blows. hopefully he gets extended minutes when we play them.

3p% in the playoffs:

2012: 25.8%
2013: 25.0%

PERs of 6.2 and 10.2 and negative WS/48 both seasons.

[cd98]

He's a good midrange shooter, not three point shooter. It will hurt. He's going to the team where his role can really hurt us.

[Texas_Ranger]

Well, time for Carlon Butler to be a new Spurs killer.

[jermaine]

To say the Spurs are the so called "Model" team, no one ever really wanna sign here. They know Pop aint gonna let'em play. I guess Stephen Jackson wasn't lying. If your outside the big 3, aint shit promised.

[DesignatedT]

I would have taken Granger or World Peace just to have some extra options but why people are freaking out about this is beyond me. Barring major injuries our playoff rotation is set and I'm not why anyone would want any of these buyout candidates to eat into the minutes of the guys we already have. Granger would have been nice for some spot minutes off the bench but if he's looking for extended minutes the Spurs should have said thanks but no thanks.

[Ocotillo]

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA
(https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA)Caron Butler has agreed to sign with the Oklahoma City Thunder, a league source tells Yahoo Sports.



We often hear free agents don't come here to San Antonio as it is a small city team without a lot of night life. If that is the case, Oklahoma City should never get a sniff from anyone........

I didn't want Butler but this kind of suprises me.

[TheGoldStandard]

To say the Spurs are the so called "Model" team, no one ever really wanna sign here. They know Pop aint gonna let'em play. I guess Stephen Jackson wasn't lying. If your outside the big 3, aint shit promised.

And Jeff Ayres. Asshole was a 3rd string wiener on the Pacers and couldn't sniff the floor and now he's up after diaw circumventing pops golden child Bonner

[Mel_13]

We often hear free agents don't come here to San Antonio as it is a small city team without a lot of night life. If that is the case, Oklahoma City should never get a sniff from anyone........

I didn't want Butler but this kind of suprises me.

It just says that Miami didn't want him.

[dbestpro]

Once again, the front office completely fails the team. It seems the game six loss has had more of an affect on their ability to make decisions than it has on any particular player. Of all the people in the Spurs organization who should be looking for a job, it is Buford. He has failed this team miserably.

[jermaine]

The Spurs just wanna get these steal deals an think that shit gonna keep working. Sometimes they need to go for the home run swing an quit tryna get these bs steals.

[DesignatedT]

Once again, the front office completely fails the team. It seems the game six loss has had more of an affect on their ability to make decisions than it has on any particular player. Of all the people in the Spurs organization who should be looking for a job, it is Buford. He has failed this team miserably.

How did he fail the team? By not signing Caron Butler? lol

[Clipper Nation]

Once again, the front office completely fails the team. It seems the game six loss has had more of an affect on their ability to make decisions than it has on any particular player. Of all the people in the Spurs organization who should be looking for a job, it is Buford. He has failed this team miserably.
Buford would have another GM job five minutes after you fired him :lol

[DPG21920]

How did he fail the team? By not signing Caron Butler? lol

Well, I can't speak for him specifically, but I always said watch the III phases and then judge (Free Agency, Trade Deadline & Buyouts). Free agency raised a lot of questions, but I was willing to wait and see Phase II and III. When the trade deadline passed and nothing was done to address self-admitted glaring holes, it didn't bode well, but at least there was phase III to fill in that gap. With phase III coming to a close and the Spurs whiffing on their main targets per reports, it's safe to assume we can analyze the job the FO has done.

They've done a poor job.

[Mel_13]

Buford would have another GM job five minutes after you fired him :lol

:lol

The adolescent whining is to be expected, but the outright stupidity of some of these comments is another thing..

[xmas1997]

Well, I can't speak for him specifically, but I always said watch the III phases and then judge (Free Agency, Trade Deadline & Buyouts). Free agency raised a lot of questions, but I was willing to wait and see Phase II and III. When the trade deadline passed and nothing was done to address self-admitted glaring holes, it didn't bode well, but at least there was phase III to fill in that gap. With phase III coming to a close and the Spurs whiffing on their main targets per reports, it's safe to assume we can analyze the job the FO has done.

They've done a poor job.


That is undeniable, the FO gets an F this year.

[NickiRasgo]

Butler to OKC.

[Spur|n|Austin]

Once again, the front office completely fails the team. It seems the game six loss has had more of an affect on their ability to make decisions than it has on any particular player. Of all the people in the Spurs organization who should be looking for a job, it is Buford. He has failed this team miserably.

:lmao - I'm sorry dude, but what in the fuck?

[dbestpro]

How did he fail the team? By not signing Caron Butler? lol

My mistake for assuming you might actually be following the Spurs. Start with the Bonner contract (designed to be moved for assets), Splitter's contract, Manu's contract, the draft, and the disaster that is Ayers. The only saving grace was the Belli contract. This is easily the worse front office job by Buford. If another team wants the old drunk they can have him.

[Spur|n|Austin]

My mistake for assuming you might actually be following the Spurs. Start with the Bonner contract (designed to be moved for assets), Splitter's contract, Manu's contract, the draft, and the disaster that is Ayers. The only saving grace was the Belli contract. This is easily the worse front office job by Buford. If another team wants the old drunk they can have him.

After all the years of success, you would just toss the best GM in the game out? Even after a Finals appearance which went 7 games?

[Mel_13]

After all the years of success, you would just toss the best GM in the game out? Even after a Finals appearance which went 7 games?

You can't fix stupid.

[DesignatedT]

Well, I can't speak for him specifically, but I always said watch the III phases and then judge (Free Agency, Trade Deadline & Buyouts). Free agency raised a lot of questions, but I was willing to wait and see Phase II and III. When the trade deadline passed and nothing was done to address self-admitted glaring holes, it didn't bode well, but at least there was phase III to fill in that gap. With phase III coming to a close and the Spurs whiffing on their main targets per reports, it's safe to assume we can analyze the job the FO has done.

They've done a poor job.

Not sure what the glaring whole is. Backup 3? As I was saying before, and I think I've seen you address this as well, why would we want another three if it means he's eating in to the minutes of our already set playoff rotation? I understand were kind of "putting our eggs in one basket" with the guys we have, meaning if we get a key injury were really going to be up shit creek but barring any injuries our lineup is fine and set and nobody I have seen on the buyout market has proven to be better options then the 9 guys we already have.

[dbestpro]

Clippers may let Turkoglu go to sign Granger. What about signing Hedo, if that happens?

[DesignatedT]

My mistake for assuming you might actually be following the Spurs. Start with the Bonner contract (designed to be moved for assets), Splitter's contract, Manu's contract, the draft, and the disaster that is Ayers. The only saving grace was the Belli contract. This is easily the worse front office job by Buford. If another team wants the old drunk they can have him.

By posting in this thread at that moment you insinuated that by not signing anyone on the buyout market that RC failed the Spurs.

Ok, so you have a problem how the Spurs have been run for the last decade. Got you. Your opinion. I disagree.

[NickiRasgo]

Kleiza anyone? Just saw the idea on Facebook comments section.

[Clipper Nation]

Clippers may let Turkoglu go to sign Granger. What about signing Hedo, if that happens?
According to who? We have enough room on the roster for both of them....

[cd98]

We often hear free agents don't come here to San Antonio as it is a small city team without a lot of night life. If that is the case, Oklahoma City should never get a sniff from anyone........

I didn't want Butler but this kind of suprises me.

We got some free agents in the past when we were contenders. Now that we are on the older side, any free agent would see Thunder as on the rise and highly likely to make it to the finals.

[Mugen]

While losing out on Granger is by no means a death knell to the Spurs' chances this season, I agree with DPG that the Front Office has done a poor job in bolstering the roster since last season. They made pitches to AK and Granger which were understandably rejected but when you see guys like Jordan Hamilton and Spencer Hawes (both would help the Spurs tremendously) be acquired for relatively peanuts, you just have to shake your head.

Hopefully the Spurs can stay healthy as a fully healthy squad is still good enough to reach the Finals but RC/Pop & Co. have not done much to maximize the margin for error that this team has going into the playoffs.

[DisAsTerBot]

the FO tried to recruit these players. The players made their choices. Not really sure how the FO takes the blame for player decisions to sign elsewhere.

[Mel_13]

While losing out on Granger is by no means a death knell to the Spurs' chances this season, I agree with DPG that the Front Office has done a poor job in bolstering the roster since last season. They made pitches to AK and Granger which were understandably rejected but when you see guys like Jordan Hamilton and Spencer Hawes (both would help the Spurs tremendously) be acquired for relatively peanuts, you just have to shake your head.

Hopefully the Spurs can stay healthy as a fully healthy squad is still good enough to reach the Finals but RC/Pop & Co. have not done much to maximize the margin for error that this team has going into the playoffs.

I agree with the general sentiment, but not with the specific examples. The Spurs would have had to include their first rounder to trump Cleveland's offer for Hawes and it's far from certain that Denver would have preferred Cojo or Nando to Brooks.

[cd98]

We are good at getting Euros to sign with us. Unfortunately, none of those bought out are Euros. Bellineli signed with us for less money. He's been a great signing.

[Mugen]

I agree with the general sentiment, but not with the specific examples. The Spurs would have had to include their first rounder to trump Cleveland's offer for Hawes and it's far from certain that Denver would have preferred Cojo or Nando to Brooks.

Agree regarding the early 2nd rounders from Cleveland but I like CoJo/Nando more than Brooks especially for a team going nowhere like the Nuggets. Maybe a homer take tho tbh.

[Mel_13]

Agree regarding the early 2nd rounders from Cleveland but I like CoJo/Nando more than Brooks especially for a team going nowhere like the Nuggets. Maybe a homer take tho tbh.

I'd agree, but we'll never know what was offered/rejected before the trade went down.

[capek]

439417610569281536

Time to:
http://slickzine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Cliff-Jumping2.gif
amiright?

[21209]

I'd take a pass on Hedo if he's released. I'm not impressed with what I've seen of him with the Clips.

[ace3g]

Kleiza anyone? Just saw the idea on Facebook comments section.

Mentioned earlier in the buyout thread:


Still interesting to see if any Euroleague talent becomes available.

Can't find the other quote exactly but I also mentioned that I'm not sure if we have enough money for buyout and contract of said player. Plus a lot of the good players teams are still doing well standings wise in the Euroleague Top 16. But it wouldn't surprise me if the Spurs made a move like this.

[Mel_13]

The San Antonio Spurs, Houston Rockets, Miami Heat and Dallas Mavericks all made a run at Granger, but ultimately he chose the Clippers late Thursday night because they offered him the best opportunity to play meaningful minutes for a contender.
http://espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/story/_/id/10531123/danny-granger-decides-sign-los-angeles-clippershttp://sports.yahoo.com/news/sources--danny-granger-to-sign-with-clippers-063717318-nba.html

I guess Riley, Cuban, and Morey didn't try hard enough..

[timtonymanu]

439417610569281536

Time to:
http://slickzine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Cliff-Jumping2.gif
amiright?

He sucks. Good news for the Spurs.

[look_at_g_shred]

Any time that takes away from Jackson/Lamb/Fisher is a good thing tbh.... Hopefully it's like the Kevin Martin thing again for them.

[look_at_g_shred]

Sign up Hakim Warrick tbh....

[kjhip1]

Dido on hedo, he's garbage! I'll take our chances with the team we have. I'll agree that the FO has let us down this year with trades and buyouts but ultimately we don't know what they actually tried to do. But I'll give them the benefit of the doubt seeing as though we've sustained the model franchise for the last 17 years!

[NickiRasgo]

Mentioned earlier in the buyout thread:



Can't find the other quote exactly but I also mentioned that I'm not sure if we have enough money for buyout and contract of said player. Plus a lot of the good players teams are still doing well standings wise in the Euroleague Top 16. But it wouldn't surprise me if the Spurs made a move like this.

Oh. Okay okay. Yeah it seems an interesting idea.

Hey Bruno, any idea?

[Chinook]

Mentioned earlier in the buyout thread:

Can't find the other quote exactly but I also mentioned that I'm not sure if we have enough money for buyout and contract of said player. Plus a lot of the good players teams are still doing well standings wise in the Euroleague Top 16. But it wouldn't surprise me if the Spurs made a move like this.

They get $455k for buyouts. Should be plenty for an expiring whom the team does not plan to re-sign, but not much more than that.

[Ditty]

I'm hoping the Spurs were confident they were going to sign Granger, is the reason why they didn't go after MWP.

[ace3g]

Mentioned earlier in the buyout thread:



Can't find the other quote exactly but I also mentioned that I'm not sure if we have enough money for buyout and contract of said player. Plus a lot of the good players teams are still doing well standings wise in the Euroleague Top 16. But it wouldn't surprise me if the Spurs made a move like this.

Here was the other quote from 2 weeks ago:


For some reason I get the feeling some Euroleague player will become available after their season ends early and joins the Spurs. I would be less surprised if this happened than if a trade happened.

Granted they did make the trade for Daye, but not really an impact for this season.

Also in regards to bringing over a Euro vet; he would have to have some familiarity with the Spurs system and/or had previous NBA experience, if you are going to bring him in this late in the season.

[timtonymanu]

I'm hoping the Spurs were confident they were going to sign Granger, is the reason why they didn't go after MWP.

No one seems to be interested in Metta. Not even any speculations about him.

[xmas1997]

No one seems to be interested in Metta. Not even any speculations about him.

Good, maybe he will retire gracefully into the sunset, although I doubt it.

[CitizenDwayne]

Sign up Hakim Warrick tbh....

Does he have anything left? He showed flashes of promise, but I haven't seen him do anything worthwhile in years.

[xmas1997]

Does he have anything left? He showed flashes of promise, but I haven't seen him do anything worthwhile in years.


He has nothing. Those flashes were few and far between, and as he aged, the fewer the flashes. He's done, get the fork.

[SpurPadre]

No one seems to be interested in Metta. Not even any speculations about him.

Pop doesn't want to deal with the other "Malice at the Palace" knucklehead even though that was eons ago. And even though we have a fetish for old fucks, his baggage just isn't worth it.

[Beaverfuzz]

Antwan baby?

[xmas1997]

Pop doesn't want to deal with the other "Malice at the Palace" knucklehead even though that was eons ago. And even though we have a fetish for old fucks, his baggage just isn't worth it.


Do you blame him?
I wouldn't want to either.
I imagine the same goes for the rest of the league.
Jax was bad enough and now some idiots on here want Artest, er I mean bugga bugga world piss.

[SpurPadre]

Do you blame him?
I wouldn't want to either.
I imagine the same goes for the rest of the league.
Jax was bad enough and now some idiots on here want Artest, er I mean bugga bugga world piss.

No, I don't blame him at all.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Do you blame him?
I wouldn't want to either.
I imagine the same goes for the rest of the league.
Jax was bad enough and now some idiots on here want Artest, er I mean bugga bugga world piss.

Some idiots, huh?

It's not as if Artest has been praised for being an extremely loyal teammate, right? It's not as if Artest hasn't stated that the Spurs are his favorite team outside of LA, right? OR that Duncan is the best big in the league, right?

You watch too much ESPN.

[Strategic]

We often hear free agents don't come here to San Antonio as it is a small city team without a lot of night life. If that is the case, Oklahoma City should never get a sniff from anyone........

I didn't want Butler but this kind of suprises me.
Young players and dumbass coach at OKC are prime targets for rogue vets to push around, not gonna happen with the Spurs.

[xmas1997]

Some idiots, huh?

It's not as if Artest has been praised for being an extremely loyal teammate, right? It's not as if Artest hasn't stated that the Spurs are his favorite team outside of LA, right? OR that Duncan is the best big in the league, right?

You watch too much ESPN.

I never watch that pisspot channel, not even when the Spurs play, but obviously you do.
:lol

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

I never watch that pisspot channel, not even when the Spurs play, but obviously you do.
:lol

Nice response. My favorite part is how you refute and counter the things that I state that make your comment look silly.

Maybe if you responded with his injuries this year or his drop in production scoring (although not a huge drop off) you'd have a point. Instead, you argue something that you clearly know nothing about.

But you'd rather have Ayres or have Joseph guarding Durant at the end of a game :lol

[xmas1997]

Nice response. My favorite part is how you refute and counter the things that I state that make your comment look silly.

Maybe if you responded with his injuries this year or his drop in production scoring (although not a huge drop off) you'd have a point. Instead, you argue something that you clearly know nothing about.

But you'd rather have Ayres or have Joseph guarding Durant at the end of a game :lol

Not really but there is little choice considering the circumstances.
At least I don't push for a washed up insane head case to do it.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Not really but there is little choice considering the circumstances.
At least I don't push for a washed up insane head case to do it.

So you are stating you would rather have Ayres/Bonner play as the fourth big off the bench rather than Artest? & you would rather have Ginobili/Belinelli come in the starting line-up come playoff time than Artest or be pressed to have to guard Durant at the end of a game?

I mean, Ginobili did solid on Durant during the first half, but it took all of his energy to guard Durant and he wasn't productive on offense. We need another 3 off the bench, and it's really between World Peace, or a bunch of DL scrubs.

[DesignatedT]

Well only play our 3 bigs come playoff time. Leonard will play some minutes at 4 vs OKC when they go small. Leonard will guard Durant primarily with Green getting some time and Manu playing very little spot minutes on him.

[xmas1997]

Well only play our 3 bigs come playoff time. Leonard will play some minutes at 4 vs OKC when they go small. Leonard will guard Durant primarily with Green getting some time and Manu playing very little spot minutes on him.


Sounds reasonable to me, certainly a sight better than relying on a broken down player in body and especially in mind.
Geez, this isn't rocket science.

[crc21209]

Well only play our 3 bigs come playoff time. Leonard will play some minutes at 4 vs OKC when they go small. Leonard will guard Durant primarily with Green getting some time and Manu playing very little spot minutes on him.

Exactly. We all know the 8 MAYBE 9 man Playoff rotation is set. Parker, Green, Leonard, Duncan, Splitter, Ginobili, Belinelli, Diaw, and Mills. Kawhi will take Durant and Green will spend some time on Westbrook...

[Bruno]

Butler getting to OKC truly sucks for Spurs. They will play ton of smallball (especially with Perkins out/diminished) with Durant at PF and Spurs will struggle against it. Splitter will be reduce at backing up Duncan for 10-15 mpg and Diaw will have difficult defensive assignments against perimeter players. Without a good extra SF/small ball PF, I'm not sure how Spurs will do.

[slick'81]

Butler getting to OKC truly sucks for Spurs. They will play ton of smallball (especially with Perkins out/diminished) with Durant at PF and Spurs will struggle against it. Splitter will be reduce at backing up Duncan for 10-15 mpg and Diaw will have difficult defensive assignments against perimeter players. Without a good extra SF/small ball PF, I'm not sure how Spurs will do.


thats the first thing I thought of is only way butler plays if they go xtra small which will probably work with ibaka,Durant and butler but now our 9 million dollar man gets negated once again

[Mel_13]

thats the first thing I thought of is only way butler plays if they go xtra small which will probably work with ibaka,Durant and butler but now our 9 million dollar man gets negated once again

Adding Butler doesn't change the equation, IMO. Splitter, and to a lesser extent Diaw, was going to be marginalized in an OKC series with or without Butler. They were going to go small for large stretches in any event. Butler replacing Sefalosha, Lamb, Jackson, or Fisher in those configurations is not a game changer.

[Mugen]

Would have been nice to have Butler to throw at Durant for 5-10mins a game but I agree with Mel that him going to the Thunder doesn't really increase/decrease their chances of beating the Spurs. They had plenty of small ball players that could hurt us already. If Butler takes shots away from Durant/Ibaka/Westbrook/Fisher then I consider it a good thing tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

I agree that Butler is the only really sure-fire performing forward on the waiver wire, even if he is in decline.

The others have/had way too many question marks.

Well, looks like it's time to start the audition machine up again.

[objective]

I know how they'll do. They will lose.

poor roster management this season in context. just like 2008 except worse, no moves to try to rectify the mistakes of free agency.

sad to see.

[Aremid]

Butler getting to OKC truly sucks for Spurs. They will play ton of smallball (especially with Perkins out/diminished) with Durant at PF and Spurs will struggle against it. Splitter will be reduce at backing up Duncan for 10-15 mpg and Diaw will have difficult defensive assignments against perimeter players. Without a good extra SF/small ball PF, I'm not sure how Spurs will do.

pop and co did a brilliant job of stopping okc last year by hoping and praying that Westbrook got hurt. Looks like their strategy is the same this year lmao

[DesignatedT]

Subbing Butler in for Perkins is a good thing for the Spurs if you ask me. We should be able to score at will with that lineup of theirs. Diaw could probably guard fuckin Butler lmao. Sag off and let the dude shoot. Sounds fine with me.

lol caron butler.

[CitizenDwayne]

Subbing Butler in for Perkins is a good thing for the Spurs if you ask me. We should be able to score at will with that lineup of theirs. Diaw could probably guard fuckin Butler lmao. Sag off and let the dude shoot. Sounds fine with me.

lol caron butler.

I don't know. Perkins is such a useless bag of shit, it seems like opposing teams would want him in as much as possible

[Mugen]

Perk guards Duncan very well tbh.

[DesignatedT]

I don't know. Perkins is such a useless bag of shit, it seems like opposing teams would want him in as much as possible

I would agree but fwiw the Thunder are 0-4 without Perkins in the lineup this season and 2-6 without him the last two seasons.

[ace3g]

Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)The Thunder is the latest team to express interest in guard Ben Gordon, source says. Gordon continues to work on a buyout w/ Bobcats.


Ramona Shelburne @ramonashelburne
(https://twitter.com/ramonashelburne)Unlike the other teams who'd previously expressed interest in Gordon, OKC is open to a deal that would preserve BGs free agency this summer

[CitizenDwayne]

I would agree but fwiw the Thunder are 0-4 without Perkins in the lineup this season and 2-6 without him the last two seasons.

Hmm. Those stats surprise me. I stand corrected.

[Hoops Czar]

How did he fail the team? By not signing Caron Butler? lol

I love people who come into a forum missing the entire offseason and the trade deadline and then have the gall to ask how did the FO fail the team.

[ChumpDumper]

I love people who come into a forum missing the entire offseason and the trade deadline and then have the gall to ask how did the FO fail the team.You do know people don't have to read SpursTalk to follow the Spurs, right?

[DesignatedT]

I love people who come into a forum missing the entire offseason and the trade deadline and then have the gall to ask how did the FO fail the team.

lol wut

[Chinook]

Butler getting to OKC truly sucks for Spurs. They will play ton of smallball (especially with Perkins out/diminished) with Durant at PF and Spurs will struggle against it. Splitter will be reduce at backing up Duncan for 10-15 mpg and Diaw will have difficult defensive assignments against perimeter players. Without a good extra SF/small ball PF, I'm not sure how Spurs will do.

Completely disagree. The Thunder were going to play small no matter what. If this encourages OKC to play Butler over Jackson, it's a major win for the team. But that is not going to happen. We're talking about the WCF here. There's no way the Thunder play more than four wings, even going small. Durant, Sef, Jackson/Westbrook and Lamb/Fisher will get the minutes. The Spurs will run with their four wings and supplement them with Mills and Joseph depending on the situation. Diaw will see time as the four when OKC goes small, but he can easily guard Butler and Fisher and use his size on the other end.

The only team that has a matchup advantage on the Spurs is Houston. The Spurs matchup well with the Thunder. OKC is just more talented.

[tholdren]

Completely disagree. The Thunder were going to play small no matter what. If this encourages OKC to play Butler over Jackson, it's a major win for the team. But that is not going to happen. We're talking about the WCF here. There's no way the Thunder play more than four wings, even going small. Durant, Sef, Jackson/Westbrook and Lamb/Fisher will get the minutes. The Spurs will run with their four wings and supplement them with Mills and Joseph depending on the situation. Diaw will see time as the four when OKC goes small, but he can easily guard Butler and Fisher and use his size on the other end.

The only team that has a matchup advantage on the Spurs is Houston. The Spurs matchup well with the Thunder. OKC is just more talented.

Anything limiting splitter helps us. Anything limiting their youngsters helps us.. what a fucking Stupid ass move butler is going to be taking had and lamb minutes... Wtf thunder

[bklynspursfan]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BhmDBMnCUAAEX3N.jpg

Hope we meet in the playoffs :hungry:

[Spurs_Be_Beastin']

Bitch ass nigga Granger .
Lol Clippers

[rjv]

Completely disagree. The Thunder were going to play small no matter what. If this encourages OKC to play Butler over Jackson, it's a major win for the team. But that is not going to happen. We're talking about the WCF here. There's no way the Thunder play more than four wings, even going small. Durant, Sef, Jackson/Westbrook and Lamb/Fisher will get the minutes. The Spurs will run with their four wings and supplement them with Mills and Joseph depending on the situation. Diaw will see time as the four when OKC goes small, but he can easily guard Butler and Fisher and use his size on the other end.

The only team that has a matchup advantage on the Spurs is Houston. The Spurs matchup well with the Thunder. OKC is just more talented.

or..their best player is much better than our best player and then they match up in every other way. durant is the one they can go to when it gets down to winning time that is pretty much unstoppable.

[Chinook]

or..their best player is much better than our best player and then they match up in every other way. durant is the one they can go to when it gets down to winning time that is pretty much unstoppable.

Nah. They're more talented almost across the board.

[TD 21]

Completely disagree. The Thunder were going to play small no matter what. If this encourages OKC to play Butler over Jackson, it's a major win for the team. But that is not going to happen. We're talking about the WCF here. There's no way the Thunder play more than four wings, even going small. Durant, Sef, Jackson/Westbrook and Lamb/Fisher will get the minutes. The Spurs will run with their four wings and supplement them with Mills and Joseph depending on the situation. Diaw will see time as the four when OKC goes small, but he can easily guard Butler and Fisher and use his size on the other end.

The only team that has a matchup advantage on the Spurs is Houston. The Spurs matchup well with the Thunder. OKC is just more talented.

What gave you that idea? They've largely gone away from playing small the past two seasons, though that was probably because they lacked depth of size on the wing. Butler's minutes won't come at the expense of Jackson, but Adams and possibly Lamb/Fisher.

It's bad news not because Butler is some savior, but because he gives them more flexibility, something the Spurs lack, with their two forwards that are good enough to be in a playoff rotation.


Now that any hope of adequately filing their gaping hole is officially over :lol at those who gave them the benefit of the doubt and got their hopes up over the deadline/buyout period. As I correctly predicted months ago, at best they'd make an inconsequential deadline trade and inevitably strikeout on the buyout market. I know this organization like the back of my hand.

[crc21209]

Eh whatever. If he doesnt play well Doc will pull the plug on Granger too the same way Pop would. I'm not even sure Granger can out play Dudley or Barnes at this point. Their rotation will be screwed up for awhile. Doc will be trying out one or two one night and then one or two the next night.

[Chinook]

What gave you that idea? They've largely gone away from playing small the past two seasons, though that was probably because they lacked depth of size on the wing. Butler's minutes won't come at the expense of Jackson, but Adams and possibly Lamb/Fisher.

It's bad news not because Butler is some savior, but because he gives them more flexibility, something the Spurs lack, with their two forwards that are good enough to be in a playoff rotation.


Now that any hope of adequately filing their gaping hole is officially over :lol at those who gave them the benefit of the doubt and got their hopes up over the deadline/buyout period. As I correctly predicted months ago, at best they'd make an inconsequential deadline trade and inevitably strikeout on the buyout market. I know this organization like the back of my hand.

No. The Thunder stopped playing small when Westbrook went down. They played it plenty in 2012 and in last year's Houston series. Obviously, they didn't against Memphis. OKC has shown a strong preference toward playing Russ at the two in small ball. If that changes, all it does is make OKC slower on the perimeter. You think Butler coming in instead of Jackson is an advantage? No. The Spurs can play Manu or Beli on him and win that battle. There's really only one player on the Spurs who can guard Jackson, and he'll be on Westbrook.

[tmtcsc]

If (and its a BIG IF) Manu plays like Manu (not turnover, bad pass Manu) then the Spurs will be vastly improved in the post season. He's a difference maker when he plays his best basketball. Caron Butler, Danny Granger, Earl Clark and anyone else that's been signed recently will not have a huge impact for their respective teams. That would have been the same for us if we had signed them too. Not gonna happen.

The Spurs are who they are and that's a friggin great team. It amazes me what short memories people have sometimes. We SHOULD have beaten Miam in 6 games, including twice on the road. Fuck all these pretty, fastbreaking, alley-ooping teams in the West. We'll be just fine. I want Houston, OKC, Portland and whoever else wants a piece of us in the playoffs. Bring it on....The Spurs are about to start getting their groove back real soon. They aren't there yet of course, but the timing looks awesome.

[TD 21]

No. The Thunder stopped playing small when Westbrook went down. They played it plenty in 2012 and in last year's Houston series. Obviously, they didn't against Memphis. OKC has shown a strong preference toward playing Russ at the two in small ball. If that changes, all it does is make OKC slower on the perimeter. You think Butler coming in instead of Jackson is an advantage? No. The Spurs can play Manu or Beli on him and win that battle. There's really only one player on the Spurs who can guard Jackson, and he'll be on Westbrook.

I don't mean small on the perimeter. They've played a lot of three guard lineups by default given their lack of a true backup SF. I mean small in terms of Durant at PF. They did it a decent amount in the playoffs because of the Rockets proclivity for playing small and in an attempt to get as much offense on the floor as possible against the Grizzlies, but they've generally strayed from it the past two seasons. Now they won't, which means their offense will go to another level . . . and the Spurs couldn't guard them to begin with.

[Chinook]

I don't mean small on the perimeter. They've played a lot of three guard lineups by default given their lack of a true backup SF. I mean small in terms of Durant at PF. They did it a decent amount in the playoffs because of the Rockets proclivity for playing small and in an attempt to get as much offense on the floor as possible against the Grizzlies, but they've generally strayed from it the past two seasons. Now they won't, which means their offense will go to another level . . . and the Spurs couldn't guard them to begin with.

We just have to agree to disagree here. Both teams will play small and only use four wings in their rotations. The small-ball battle will be fought among those eight players.

[ace3g]

Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Popovich, on recently released free agents: 'We're not losing sleep over anybody'

Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Pop on new free agents: 'R.C. and the boys are doing their due diligence but there's nothing there we're super excited about'

[Chinook]

Sounds like a barb more than an explanation.

[spurs50_]

Small ball rulez....

[Baam]

Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Popovich, on recently released free agents: 'We're not losing sleep over anybody'

Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Pop on new free agents: 'R.C. and the boys are doing their due diligence but there's nothing there we're super excited about'





And people wonder why Granger didn't sign, what a great message from Pop to any potential target out there... Guess what old man, they're not super excited about playing for a chocker like you either...

[crc21209]

[/FONT][/COLOR]QUOTE=ace3g;7162693]Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Popovich, on recently released free agents: 'We're not losing sleep over anybody'

Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Pop on new free agents: 'R.C. and the boys are doing their due diligence but there's nothing there we're super excited about'




[/QUOTE]

Exactly what anyone with a half a brain here would say. There is no player out there who is going to come in and have a major impact on this team at this point. The playoff rotation is basically set already...

[ChumpDumper]

Sounds like a barb more than an explanation.Can't it be both?

[TD 21]

Even though I mostly blame the front office for their inability to plug a gaping hole that they've had for going on a year, good for Pop to get a dig in. I've had it with all these assholes pretending to have great respect for this organization, yet refusing to join them.

:lol At those still banging the "they're fine, if healthy" drum. As if they're not supposed to be prepared in case of an injury. Having no true backup at a position and really four players period to cover two positions is flat out negligent.

[RD2191]

Kawhi is young and can play 40 a game if needed in the playoffs.

[Sean Cagney]

[/FONT][/COLOR]QUOTE=ace3g;7162693]Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Popovich, on recently released free agents: 'We're not losing sleep over anybody'

Mike Monroe @Monroe_SA
(https://twitter.com/Monroe_SA)Pop on new free agents: 'R.C. and the boys are doing their due diligence but there's nothing there we're super excited about'
I agree on this.





Exactly what anyone with a half a brain here would say. There is no player out there who is going to come in and have a major impact on this team at this point. The playoff rotation is basically set already...[/QUOTE]

[Mugen]

:lol Pop's quote tbh

[Chinook]

And people wonder why Granger didn't sign, what a great message from Pop to any potential target out there... Guess what old man, they're not super excited about playing for a chocker like you either...

Particular reason why you add the extra 'c' in 'choker'?

[Chinook]

Can't it be both?

It is. But I think it's worded carefully.

[Baam]

Completely disagree. The Thunder were going to play small no matter what. If this encourages OKC to play Butler over Jackson, it's a major win for the team. But that is not going to happen. We're talking about the WCF here. There's no way the Thunder play more than four wings, even going small. Durant, Sef, Jackson/Westbrook and Lamb/Fisher will get the minutes. The Spurs will run with their four wings and supplement them with Mills and Joseph depending on the situation. Diaw will see time as the four when OKC goes small, but he can easily guard Butler and Fisher and use his size on the other end.

The only team that has a matchup advantage on the Spurs is Houston. The Spurs matchup well with the Thunder. OKC is just more talented.

I disagree. Sefo + Ibaka (and Durant helping as well) is the best Parker defense out there. Perkins is great at only one thing and that's post defense something he fully uses against the Spurs... I don't see how they don't qualify as a bad matchup... Even their bench is a bad matchup for ours, completely torching them with their superior D and exploiting the Mills/Beli/Manu's weak defense...

[cd98]

And people wonder why Granger didn't sign, what a great message from Pop to any potential target out there... Guess what old man, they're not super excited about playing for a chocker like you either...

No offense but he's won 4 titles, do by definition, he can't be a choker. And if losing a big game in the finals makes one a choker, then Doc Rivers and Eroc Spolestra are chokers too. In fact, so is Phil Jackson. Not many big names haven't lost in the finals.

[cd98]

Even though I mostly blame the front office for their inability to plug a gaping hole that they've had for going on a year, good for Pop to get a dig in. I've had it with all these assholes pretending to have great respect for this organization, yet refusing to join them.

:lol At those still banging the "they're fine, if healthy" drum. As if they're not supposed to be prepared in case of an injury. Having no true backup at a position and really four players period to cover two positions is flat out negligent.

This is a high standard. Who do we give up to get a quality small forward? To make a trade you have to give up something big to get something big (unless you are the Lakers). Probably haven't found a small forward that is worth the offer.

[Chinook]

I disagree. Sefo + Ibaka (and Durant helping as well) is the best Parker defense out there. Perkins is great at only one thing and that's post defense something he fully uses against the Spurs... I don't see how they don't qualify as a bad matchup... Even their bench is a bad matchup for ours, completely torching them with their superior D and exploiting the Mills/Beli/Manu's weak defense...

They're a bad matchup because they're more talented. But when evaluating strengths and weaknesses, things line up well. Just like the Spurs match up well with Miami.

[Baam]

They're a bad matchup because they're more talented. But when evaluating strengths and weaknesses, things line up well. Just like the Spurs match up well with Miami.

Miami doesn't have a great rim protector or a good defender at the 5 to contain Duncan, imo Miami is a way better matchup... They're only bad for Manu with their focus on playing the passing lanes...

[Chinook]

Really, had the Spurs brought Jean-Charles over (and he hadn't gotten hurt) the roster would look great right now. In retrospect, keeping him overseas makes little sense.

[Birn]

I'm glad Granger, Butler and the others went elsewhere. They're not going to make much of a difference any whatever team they're on. I would prefer the Spurs take a flyer on a young D-League prospect like Devin Ebanks.

[Chinook]

Miami doesn't have a great rim protector or a good defender at the 5 to contain Duncan, imo Miami is a way better matchup... They're only bad for Manu with their focus on playing the passing lanes...

And the Spurs have the defenders to match up with Durant and Westbrook. They have elite rim protection and keep their fouls down (huge). No way OKC leaving Green or Leonard open and Splitter or Diaw cutting perfect defense against Parker. And the Thunder can't play small, defend the rim and guard Duncan at the same time.

[SpurPadre]

Really, had the Spurs brought Jean-Charles over (and he hadn't gotten hurt) the roster would look great right now. In retrospect, keeping him overseas makes little sense.

You mean the Liver guy, right?

[Chinook]

You mean the Liver guy, right?

Yeah, the defensive-specialist combo-forward. That's pretty much the role we're all complaining the team hasn't filled.

[SpurPadre]

Yeah, the defensive-specialist combo-forward. That's pretty much the role we're all complaining the team hasn't filled.

Whatever happened to Hanga?

[Chinook]

Whatever happened to Hanga?

Under a long-term contract in Spain, I belive.

[heyheymymy]

pfft granger, nice "contender"

[Strategic]

Subbing Butler in for Perkins is a good thing for the Spurs if you ask me. We should be able to score at will with that lineup of theirs. Diaw could probably guard fuckin Butler lmao. Sag off and let the dude shoot. Sounds fine with me.

lol caron butler.I'm not too sure about Butler's stretch 4's abilities. It wouldn't bother me giving Splitter a go at guarding him.

[Strategic]

You do know people don't have to read SpursTalk to follow the Spurs, right?The goods.

[Hoops Czar]

You do know people don't have to read SpursTalk to follow the Spurs, right?


You do know you missed the point, right? T's been here since the begnning. If the Spurs lose this year, it has nothing to do with missing out on a couple of "has been" scrubs. This season was lost in the offseason where they had a reasonable chance to improve and the FO shit their pants. You can't blame players for being old and bad at their job but you can blame a FO for not doing their due diligence to improve the team.

[ChumpDumper]

It is. But I think it's worded carefully.Doubtful.

[ChumpDumper]

You do know you missed the point, right? T's been here since the begnning. If the Spurs lose this year, it has nothing to do with missing out on a couple of "has been" scrubs. This season was lost in the offseason where they had a reasonable chance to improve and the FO shit their pants. You can't blame players for being old and bad at their job but you can blame a FO for not doing their due diligence to improve the team.That's what you were trying to say?

lol

[Seventyniner]

Yeah, the defensive-specialist combo-forward. That's pretty much the role we're all complaining the team hasn't filled.

Isn't he like 19 years old? Late first-round picks that young tend not to make an impact, least of all because they're likely spending most of their time in the D-league. But you're right that that role is what the team needs.

[Chinook]

You do know you missed the point, right? T's been here since the begnning. If the Spurs lose this year, it has nothing to do with missing out on a couple of "has been" scrubs. This season was lost in the offseason where they had a reasonable chance to improve and the FO shit their pants. You can't blame players for being old and bad at their job but you can blame a FO for not doing their due diligence to improve the team.

Agreed, save for the fact that I don't think the season is lost at all.

[Chinook]

Isn't he like 19 years old? Late first-round picks that young tend not to make an impact, least of all because they're likely spending most of their time in the D-league. But you're right that that role is what the team needs.

The Spurs don't need a proven player for the spot, just one who can fill the void in emergencies.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Ginobili is so clutch

[TheGoldStandard]

http://i58.tinypic.com/2d8nlh2.jpg

[Hoops Czar]

Agreed, save for the fact that I don't think the season is lost at all.


It is if Parker can't regain his 2012-13 form. Patty Mills is a nice change of pace off the bench but he isn't leaing the Spurs anywhere in the postseason.

[Chinook]

It is if Parker can't regain his 2012-13 form. Patty Mills is a nice change of pace off the bench but he isn't leaing the Spurs anywhere in the postseason.

Obviously. But we won't know that for a couple months. The Spurs need their top eight to play lights out to overcome OKC. The team is playing at about 75 percent of its ceiling right now. Whether they can improve enough is remaining to be seen. But all the parts are still there.

[T Park]

You do know you missed the point, right? T's been here since the begnning. If the Spurs lose this year, it has nothing to do with missing out on a couple of "has been" scrubs. This season was lost in the offseason where they had a reasonable chance to improve and the FO shit their pants. You can't blame players for being old and bad at their job but you can blame a FO for not doing their due diligence to improve the team.


Link to where they didn't? I'll wait.

[Hoops Czar]

Link to where they didn't? I'll wait.

Jeff ayres and Marco Belinelli using MLE money. No link needed!!!! I hope you didn't wait too long.

[ace3g]

Sam Amick @sam_amick
(https://twitter.com/sam_amick)Jimmer's deal with Chicago has been agreed on & he is en route to Chicago, I'm told.

[AFBlue]

So when is Antawn en route to SA?

[mienhmario]

So when is Antawn en route to SA?

When does Kobe enroute to SA?!

[SpurPadre]

So when is Antawn en route to SA?
When Bonner becomes an annual clutch playoff performer.

[Budkin]

Anything else happening?

[palangi]

well hopefully we can develop daye into a rotational guy before the playoffs.

[SpursFan86]

well hopefully we can develop daye into a rotational guy before the playoffs.

1) Highly doubt that happens

2) While it'd be nice to have a legitimate backup SF, it's really not a big deal this year if we don't. We'll be needing Kawhi to play 36-40 mpg this postseason, and when he's not on the court, we can stick Green at SF. Only time we would REALLY need a backup SF is if Kawhi goes down with an injury, but tbh, if that happens we're fucked anyways regardless of whether we have a decent backup SF or not.

[Hoops Czar]

Ariza with 40 points. I still can't they didn't take Bonner for him.

[T Park]

Jeff ayres and Marco Belinelli using MLE money. No link needed!!!! I hope you didn't wait too long.


Still waiting. Haven't responded with any sort of intelligent remark or evidence yet.

[T Park]

well hopefully we can develop daye into a rotational guy before the playoffs.

Awesome, who's minutes did he take?

[Roger Freemason Jr.]

Kawhi playing 40 minutes a game, is a mistake and an injustice to his knee. Developing Daye is absolutely what they intend on doing, so hopefully that pans out.

[Man In Black]

Question...WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP THINKING THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH KAWHI'S KNEE?

Unless one of you poster is an orthopedic doctor...then why do you think that?

[Robz4000]

Question...WHY DO PEOPLE KEEP THINKING THAT SOMETHING IS WRONG WITH KAWHI'S KNEE?

Unless one of you poster is an orthopedic doctor...then why do you think that?

This. None of Leonard's prior injuries are chronic in any way. He's just like any other young NBA player, and luckily for the Spurs he's one of their most important (behind TD and TP). He can play 40+ mpg in the playoffs. Hopefully he can avoid foul trouble but other than that they should be fine. As it is if any one of Duncan, Enrique, Leonard, or Ginobili get hurt they aren't winning a championship anyway and the FO more than likely understands this more than anyone.

[exstatic]

This. None of Leonard's prior injuries are chronic in any way. He's just like any other young NBA player, and luckily for the Spurs he's one of their most important (behind TD and TP). He can play 40+ mpg in the playoffs. Hopefully he can avoid foul trouble but other than that they should be fine. As it is if any one of Duncan, Enrique, Leonard, or Ginobili get hurt they aren't winning a championship anyway and the FO more than likely understands this more than anyone.
Who the hell is Enrique.

[SpursFan86]

Kawhi playing 40 minutes a game, is a mistake and an injustice to his knee. Developing Daye is absolutely what they intend on doing, so hopefully that pans out.

Sure, they might intend on developing Daye...but not in time to be a rotation player in this year's playoffs. He just joined the team, what, one week ago? You really expect him to crack even the regular season rotation? Much less the inevitably shortened playoff rotation.

And Kawhi played 37 mpg in last year's playoffs. I expect him to play at least around that much this year. I really doubt that playing him 3 extra mpg would suddenly be horrible for his knee. I'd imagine the Spurs understand his condition a little better than you...so if they trust him to play those minutes, I do too.

[Strategic]

Who the hell is Enrique.Iglesias?

[ace3g]

John Schuhmann @johnschuhmann
(https://twitter.com/johnschuhmann)The Bobcats just waived Ben Gordon, a day too late for him to be playoff eligible with another team.

[Big P]

Sucks for him, but at least he doesn't go to the clips, okc, or mia.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Ben Gordon: Poor player with bad attitude who pissed the hell of the Pistons and the Bobcats. Deserved worse.

[Mugen]

:lol Earl Clark released by the Knicks today while Shannon Brown is signed for the rest of the season. He must be absolutely terrible this season tbh.

446726433772429312

[T Park]

Good for Shannon.

[poeticism707]

When does Kobe enroute to SA?!

:rollin:rollin:rollin

[cd021]

Can Clark be signed and activated for the post season?

[exstatic]

Can Clark be signed and activated for the post season?

No. It's after 1 March, and he was on an NBA contract this season. He is ineligable for the post season.

[ABC]

^ Yeah.

From cbafaq (question 64):



If a team requests waivers on a player after March 1 (March 23 in 2011-12), the player is ineligible to be included in the playoff roster of any team that subsequently acquires him.


http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q64

[Birn]

I believe he is eligible for the playoffs. The Cavaliers waived him prior to March 1 and he cleared waivers. His subsequent contracts with the Knicks were 10-day contracts that have now ended. He wasn't waived by the Knicks. His contract simply expired. You can only request waivers on a player who still has a contract. If he is indeed eligible, he wouldn't be a bad piece for the rest of the season. He's athletic and can guard all three front-court positions. He has the ability to score as well. He would be a good insurance policy for the rest of the season and maybe earn an opportunity for next season.

[Sean Cagney]

LOL this thread still up at this point? We have what we have and that is enough IMO. Nobody is getting signed and buyout watch thread is RIP. Spurs are going with who they have and thats a damn good team, nobody is getting signed unless it is a late season T MAC type signing for insurance or just to ride the bench.