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TheGreatYacht
07-14-2014, 06:46 PM
Dates is actually looking like an NBA player?

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-14-2014, 06:46 PM
Where can I find the stats for this game? I missed the 1st half and most of the 3rd.
http://www.nba.com/games/20140714/SASNOP/gameinfo.html?ls=slt

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2014, 06:46 PM
Where can I find the stats for this game? I missed the 1st half and most of the 3rd.
NBA Summer League app or NBA.com

Raven
07-14-2014, 06:48 PM
Good for Daye having a decent game, hopefully he can build on this but too inconsistent to believe he can. Green with another solid game

i've noticed an improvement in his shot selection and execution of plays since the start of his san antonio experience.

DapDaGenius
07-14-2014, 06:50 PM
http://www.nba.com/games/20140714/SASNOP/gameinfo.html?ls=slt

NBA Summer League app or NBA.com

I could have sworn that they didn't post summer league stats on NBA.com, so I didn't try there. Thanks.

Russ
07-14-2014, 06:51 PM
Daye finally puts together a good name.



He always had a great name -- Darren Daye (dad) was a legend at UCLA.

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-14-2014, 06:51 PM
Nitpicking but I don't like how Daye could put his shoe back on without tying them.

ChumpDumper
07-14-2014, 06:51 PM
He always had a great name -- Darren Daye (dad) was a legend at UCLA.
lol

Emperor
07-14-2014, 06:51 PM
Rey sporting them neon green shoes lol

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2014, 06:52 PM
Damn son!
Daye with the 16, 11, 5 stat line

Russ
07-14-2014, 06:54 PM
Daye has all the qualities of a classic Spurs reclamation project.

xellos88330
07-14-2014, 06:58 PM
Cotton doesn't seem to be faring to well against Smith this game.

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-14-2014, 07:01 PM
Just watching Anderson, his issue is quickness/first step not speed imo. He doesn't get good separation so he kinda brings his defender along with him wherever he goes, but it doesn't take him much longer than others to get from one spot to another.

xellos88330
07-14-2014, 07:02 PM
Nice pass there by Morris.

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-14-2014, 07:05 PM
Ayres jumper what the fuck

ChumpDumper
07-14-2014, 07:06 PM
Jeff finally relaxing a bit.

DapDaGenius
07-14-2014, 07:11 PM
I knew Jones was going to make that. lol

Mal
07-14-2014, 07:12 PM
Daye need to train his shooting with Chip. Something missing there.

Raven
07-14-2014, 07:14 PM
clutch ayres :lol

DapDaGenius
07-14-2014, 07:14 PM
Ayres? Nice shit, man, nice shit.

Mal
07-14-2014, 07:15 PM
Morris is intriguing

ChumpDumper
07-14-2014, 07:16 PM
Really good recognition by Morris when that double started coming.

Ayers with the partial redemption actually catches a pass.

Raven
07-14-2014, 07:16 PM
chaaaaaaaamps

littlecoyotecoin
07-14-2014, 07:16 PM
Daye need to train his shooting with Chip. Something missing there.

The last few rattling out, but looking good. Much better than games one and two.

MVPAyers with the silky soft hands he's known for.

Daye with the shut down D that he's known for, to close the game.

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-14-2014, 07:16 PM
SPURS WIN!

Cloud786
07-14-2014, 07:17 PM
488839268559638528

Mal
07-14-2014, 07:18 PM
The last few rattling out, but looking good. Much better that games one and two.

MVPAyers with the silky soft hands he's known for.

He`s inconsistent. Maybe it`s confidence, maybe little change in mechanics. Everything looks good, but dont fell in.

Russ
07-14-2014, 07:18 PM
488839268559638528

Ouch. :lol

r0drig0lac
07-14-2014, 07:18 PM
488839268559638528hahaha

Chinook
07-14-2014, 07:18 PM
Kyle Anderson with the game-winning foul.

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2014, 07:19 PM
Players of the game (no order)
Darius Morris - 19pts, 4ast, 4reb, hurt his knee
Austin Daye - 18pts, 5ast, 11reb, finally
JaMychal Green - 14pts, 2ast, 9reb, limited minutes

littlecoyotecoin
07-14-2014, 07:32 PM
Kyle Anderson with the game-winning foul.

True.

TheyCallMePro
07-14-2014, 07:51 PM
Summer league so far:

-Daye jacking up everything and trying to prove himself

-Ayers being errors

-Darius Morris looking solid, but not on D

-Cotton struggling in every facet of the game

-Anderson as slow as advertised, and showing it's a real issue

-Marcus Denmon being a ballhog bum

-Deshaun Thomas jacking 3's and mostly missing

-JaMychal Green hustling 10x harder than everyone else out there

-Selfish, non-spurs basketball being played

-No one else other than those mentioned above getting any significant playing time

Russ
07-14-2014, 07:51 PM
488839268559638528


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TheGoldStandard
07-14-2014, 07:57 PM
Green has hustled with limited minutes, he deserves a camp invite by someone. Anderson needs to embrace his old man game and spend a year in the d league. Ayres catching a pass and making one basket is like a revolution but he sucks so hard. Daye is 50/50 but his shot looks better, consistent with his pocket and release.

ace3g
07-14-2014, 07:59 PM
Wanted to see V. Gaddefors (http://www.nba.com/summerleague/2014/players/sl_viktor_gaddefors/index.html) get some minutes.

I wonder how tough it is to allocate minutes with the tournament set up now

ChumpDumper
07-14-2014, 08:14 PM
Summer league so far:

-Daye jacking up everything and trying to prove himself

-Ayers being errors

-Darius Morris looking solid, but not on D

-Cotton struggling in every facet of the game

-Anderson as slow as advertised, and showing it's a real issue

-Marcus Denmon being a ballhog bum

-Deshaun Thomas jacking 3's and mostly missing

-JaMychal Green hustling 10x harder than everyone else out there

-Selfish, non-spurs basketball being played

-No one else other than those mentioned above getting any significant playing timeI don't think you watched today.

HankChinaski
07-14-2014, 08:16 PM
I think fans are overly critical of the concept for what is being done for the summer league with regards to the spurs. It truly looks like they are evaluating the talent in regards to their individual strengths and weaknesses. You may be mad that you DL prospect or undrafted guy isn't getting enough time out on the floor. But it looks like a wake up call for two individuals under contract going into training camp.

Most of the summer league roster are not even going to be training camp invites from the looks of it. More than likely this is what you will see:

outside of those on guaranteed money and maybe cotton. Green is the only other player on this roster that shows intrigue but you have to consider what the roster spot is going to be filled for and what minutes are available and is the d-league going to further benefit the players growth or have they hit their ceiling with the talent surrounding them? Because if it is the latter this current NBA champion spurs really don't have many minutes to provide for talented prospects unless they show an obvious niche that can be filled that DOESN'T kill chemistry and system in play with the team as a whole.

More could be said but I will just leave it at that. This spurs team already has a winning blue print what it needs for this season is something to dress the wound of mills absence and minute management.

Obstructed_View
07-14-2014, 08:18 PM
Initial thoughts:

What do you know? Team basketball. Screens! Inside shots! Assists!

Hey, Josh Howard's available! He's the guy standing in the corner with nobody passing him the ball.

Glad for Ayres to get the game winner. He finally set a non-illegal screen AND managed to catch a pass that hit him in the hands. In the same play.

Austin Daye has so much talent, can put up gaudy numbers with almost literally no effort, and he can't block out on free throws to save his goddamn life. His ill-advised three attempt, followed by his complete and utter loss of his defensive assignment nearly cost them the game.

Morris was the opposite of the guy who played in the last game. Check under his bed for seed pods. He was really really good at times. Still makes scary stupid plays on occasion, which I wonder if he's too old to be making.

This is the second game in a row where a guy owes his future camp invite to Bryce Cotton. Holy fuck, that guy is a terrible defender. Did he allow three and-ones IN A FUCKING ROW? Doesn't help that the NBA three point line is beyond his shooting range.

Those of you still saying Anderson is slow are retarded.

Rey actually looked pretty good in a non-specific way. Couldn't catch a break, but based on his 90 seconds in the game, I hope he starts over Ayres next game.

Thomas can't elevate, which is a problem, but damn he's a good post player.

More after a rewatching.

Obstructed_View
07-14-2014, 08:19 PM
Hey, everyone! I didn't watch the game!

littlecoyotecoin
07-14-2014, 08:19 PM
I don't think you watched today.

LMAO. I was going to say the same thing, but I just didn't have the energy.

Obstructed_View
07-14-2014, 08:21 PM
By the way, I hadn't realized that Ayres and Daye both volunteered to play in the SL. I'm really wishing they hadn't. Would much rather see more minutes for some of the other guys.

HankChinaski
07-14-2014, 08:24 PM
I like Anderson I think he shows promise and it won't be completely evident till he has had one full year within the organization and following that with a off season regiment that his him working further with his strength and conditioning and post game. With the way he uses his body he could do some terrific things inside and out of the paint.

DesignatedT
07-14-2014, 08:28 PM
Ayres said in his summer league interview that the news about him playing in the SL came as a surprise and caught him off guard. So im not sure he volunteered rather than agreed to play.

littlecoyotecoin
07-14-2014, 08:30 PM
His ill-advised three attempt, followed by his complete and utter loss of his defensive assignment nearly cost them the game.

That did put a sour note on an otherwise nice game.

Obstructed_View
07-14-2014, 08:33 PM
Ayres said in his summer league interview that the news about him playing in the SL came as a surprise and caught him off guard. So im not sure he volunteered rather than agreed to play.

Strange. I could have sworn I heard Joel Myers say that both he and Daye had volunteered. If he was ordered to play then that probably means he's playing for his spot on the team, as is Daye. RC was probably on the phone during the game shopping for conditional second rounders. :)

ace3g
07-14-2014, 08:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPoTia9z1gE

SpursFan86
07-14-2014, 08:41 PM
Didn't get to watch today. How did Anderson look out there? Seems he had a decent game judging from the box score but that doesn't always tell the whole story.

Obstructed_View
07-14-2014, 08:46 PM
Didn't get to watch today. How did Anderson look out there? Seems he had a decent game judging from the box score but that doesn't always tell the whole story.

He's been consistently the best player the Spurs have in SL so far, and he is without doubt the smartest. Nothing changed tonight. His defense has improved with each game. He's playing out of position, but he makes good things happen just about all the time. Even his three fouls were all deliberate and smart. I wish he could handle the ball more, but I'm fairly certain putting him where they are is by design.

Seventyniner
07-14-2014, 08:48 PM
-Ayers being errors

I prefer "Ayers gonna err"

Emperor
07-14-2014, 08:50 PM
Didn't stick around to watch the Heat play next, the casinos be calling my name.

xmas1997
07-14-2014, 09:25 PM
He's been consistently the best player the Spurs have in SL so far, and he is without doubt the smartest. Nothing changed tonight. His defense has improved with each game. He's playing out of position, but he makes good things happen just about all the time. Even his three fouls were all deliberate and smart. I wish he could handle the ball more, but I'm fairly certain putting him where they are is by design.

Thanks again for the great takes as always.
I have a feeling the coaching staff already know at this point how they are going to use SloMo, and the fact that no PG signings have happened yet are rather telling IMHO.

mystargtr34
07-14-2014, 09:48 PM
You guys should tune into the Jazz-Bucks game.. Parker, Exum, Greak Freak, Rodney Hood, Trey Burke, Gobert etc.. a lot of talent/athletes on the floor.. the first few minutes have had a few NBA level moves.

Darkwaters
07-14-2014, 09:49 PM
Haven't watched the game yet. But the stats look much better. Daye actually shot a little better. 2 for 5 from three isn't bad. But he rebounded, assisted and got to the line? Definitely have to watch this one.

Ayres' stats aren't anything to write home about, but better considering...

Other than that not much pops out at me. I'll watch it tomorrow.

FireMicoHalili
07-14-2014, 09:56 PM
Lots of folks here wanted Cj Fair and/or Pat Young. Wonder how they're feeling now.

MeloHype
07-14-2014, 09:57 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3r0u8gqC_L0

Kurik
07-14-2014, 09:59 PM
For those who watched the game, how did Green look? The stats look good again, most likely won't make the team but it sounds like he's putting the most effort in.

littlecoyotecoin
07-14-2014, 10:08 PM
For those who watched the game, how did Green look? The stats look good again, most likely won't make the team but it sounds like he's putting the most effort in.

I try not to over-react to a game or two, but he is looking pretty nice. He is a good complement of athleticism to a lot of the Duncan, Daye, Belinelli, and Anderson high BBIQ but lacking in explosiveness type guys we have.

Obstructed_View
07-14-2014, 10:09 PM
For those who watched the game, how did Green look? The stats look good again, most likely won't make the team but it sounds like he's putting the most effort in.

I think he's all but guaranteed a camp invite. He missed out on it a couple years ago, and he's worked hard on defense and made some plays.

Obstructed_View
07-14-2014, 10:14 PM
I have a feeling the coaching staff already know at this point how they are going to use SloMo, and the fact that no PG signings have happened yet are rather telling IMHO.
I'm not so sure. If you're right, then he's going to need to be starting at point guard before SL is out. He been shoehorned into the three position and hasn't played a second at the point in three games. They should really try to put him in the Manu role with Cotton to see how it goes, even though Cotton has little to no chance of sticking based on his rape-victim-level defense.

xmas1997
07-14-2014, 10:18 PM
I'm not so sure. If you're right, then he's going to need to be starting at point guard before SL is out. He been shoehorned into the three position and hasn't played a second at the point in three games. They should really try to put him in the Manu role with Cotton to see how it goes, even though Cotton has little to no chance of sticking based on his rape-victim-level defense.

I agree they should give him some time there.
If they don't do it in SL then I wouldn't be surprised if they did do it during training camp.

TheGreatYacht
07-14-2014, 10:22 PM
For those who watched the game, how did Green look? The stats look good again, most likely won't make the team but it sounds like he's putting the most effort in.
Looked like a younger birdman (pre-meth)

Obstructed_View
07-14-2014, 10:27 PM
I agree they should give him some time there.
If they don't do it in SL then I wouldn't be surprised if they did do it during training camp.

I don't know if they will. Ime's not running the team without instructions from home. I'm the moron who thought Splitter would start next to Duncan from day one, so I've learned that what I think is logical probably won't happen. Based on the way they've played, I'm guessing that they think of Manu as the third point guard in the rotation and are looking for someone to fill Patty's role, basically the first guy to have a hot night from long range. If Anderson doesn't get any point guard time, it probably means Pop's going to banish him to Austin.

FlAVaK
07-15-2014, 12:57 AM
Is Richards injured or has he been cut? Didn´t play in the first to games and doesn´t appear in the box score at all in the third!

http://www.nba.com/games/20140714/SASNOP/gameinfo.html

Maybe there have been some off-court issues? It doesn´t make a lot if sense to invite him at all otherwise...

ChumpDumper
07-15-2014, 01:07 AM
Is Richards injured or has he been cut? Didn´t play in the first to games and doesn´t appear in the box score at all in the third!

http://www.nba.com/games/20140714/SASNOP/gameinfo.html

Maybe there have been some off-court issues? It doesn´t make a lot if sense to invite him at all otherwise...
Re-signed with his Austrian team.

FlAVaK
07-15-2014, 01:41 AM
Re-signed with his Austrian team.

Thanks. That makes the most sense. Could have figured it out myself...

Ice009
07-15-2014, 01:46 AM
Have you been watching Ayres play? He's getting punk'd in Summer league. Who in their right mind is going to trade for that?

Forget about it man. I keep telling people there is no way anyone will trade for Ayres, yet people keep mentioning about trading him. It's better to just cut him. I don't want the Spurs even giving up a second round pick to dump him. Unless a tanking team is desperate for someone to help them tank legitimately, I don't see how anyone could possibly want him.

And what the fuck is up with this summer league shit. I paid $4.99 and now I want that money back. I'm having nothing but problems with the summer league media player. I've been trying to watch the game for about 4 hours now and I'm only halfway through. I should never have even bothered giving them a cent of my money.

ChumpDumper
07-15-2014, 02:02 AM
Forget about it man. I keep telling people there is no way anyone will trade for Ayres, yet people keep mentioning about trading him. It's better to just cut him. I don't want the Spurs even giving up a second round pick to dump him. Unless a tanking team is desperate for someone to help them tank legitimately, I don't see how anyone could possibly want him.

And what the fuck is up with this summer league shit. I paid $4.99 and now I want that money back. I'm having nothing but problems with the summer league media player. I've been trying to watch the game for about 4 hours now and I'm only halfway through. I should never have even bothered giving them a cent of my money.Works perfectly for me.

kobyz
07-15-2014, 04:35 AM
Jordan McRae was a steal at 58, he is a gamer...

mystargtr34
07-15-2014, 05:38 AM
I don't know if they will. Ime's not running the team without instructions from home. I'm the moron who thought Splitter would start next to Duncan from day one, so I've learned that what I think is logical probably won't happen. Based on the way they've played, I'm guessing that they think of Manu as the third point guard in the rotation and are looking for someone to fill Patty's role, basically the first guy to have a hot night from long range. If Anderson doesn't get any point guard time, it probably means Pop's going to banish him to Austin.

Not to pump us up (even though i will) but i still remember myself and you were 2 of the biggest Splitter homers during his rookie year.. i remember throwing tantrums weekly for Pop to throw Tiago into the starting lineup next to Tim from the get-go and live with the results because it was really the only way the Spurs were going to make any sort of leap.

Lol instead we had to live with 2 years of McDyess/Blair/Bonner starting while Tiago rotted on the bench.

mystargtr34
07-15-2014, 05:38 AM
But '5' is ours so issallgood.

mystargtr34
07-15-2014, 05:45 AM
I'm not so sure. If you're right, then he's going to need to be starting at point guard before SL is out. He been shoehorned into the three position and hasn't played a second at the point in three games. They should really try to put him in the Manu role with Cotton to see how it goes, even though Cotton has little to no chance of sticking based on his rape-victim-level defense.

Agree Anderson is pretty much a PG in a SF's body.. but a player's position on the court is pretty much governed by who they guard.. that would make KA a 3 regardless of whether he's playing the point or off the ball since he can really only guard opposition 3's. Same way Duncan has been a C since about 2008.. since he guards the opposition C.

Obstructed_View
07-15-2014, 09:19 AM
Not to pump us up (even though i will) but i still remember myself and you were 2 of the biggest Splitter homers during his rookie year.. i remember throwing tantrums weekly for Pop to throw Tiago into the starting lineup next to Tim from the get-go and live with the results because it was really the only way the Spurs were going to make any sort of leap.

Lol instead we had to live with 2 years of McDyess/Blair/Bonner starting while Tiago rotted on the bench.
That's true, but my point was more that I never considered the possibility that Splitter would NOT start immediately. It wasn't even a matter of being a homer or whatever, it was just that he was a veteran center with skins, and the Spurs were horribly in need of a center. The thought that Pop thought he was Duncan's backup never crossed my mind, and I would never have dreamed that Pop was going to make him sit around doing nothing for over a year and a half. If the Spurs couldn't do what I thought was logical in that, the most obvious of situations, then I have to accept my inability to predict anything this staff is going to do with their personnel going forward.


Agree Anderson is pretty much a PG in a SF's body.. but a player's position on the court is pretty much governed by who they guard.. that would make KA a 3 regardless of whether he's playing the point or off the ball since he can really only guard opposition 3's. Same way Duncan has been a C since about 2008.. since he guards the opposition C.
Not sure I agree with that. What makes Anderson a small forward in summer league is the fact that he's standing in the corner while someone else brings up the ball. The Spurs' defense is based on getting back, so there's not really a problem with cross-matching, and teams do it a thousand times a year.

I can't really come up with an example of an opposing second unit that would give them particular problems having Anderson in the game instead of Mills, for instance. Marco Bellineli isn't less of a defensive liability with Parker than he would be with Anderson. Joseph would certainly be less of an offensive liability paired with Anderson, and Manu suddenly gets a break from having to run the second unit.

Kasen
07-15-2014, 09:42 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eshe17bfWrE


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkZ3jJR3hFM

FireMicoHalili
07-15-2014, 10:55 AM
That's true, but my point was more that I never considered the possibility that Splitter would NOT start immediately. It wasn't even a matter of being a homer or whatever, it was just that he was a veteran center with skins, and the Spurs were horribly in need of a center. The thought that Pop thought he was Duncan's backup never crossed my mind, and I would never have dreamed that Pop was going to make him sit around doing nothing for over a year and a half. If the Spurs couldn't do what I thought was logical in that, the most obvious of situations, then I have to accept my inability to predict anything this staff is going to do with their personnel going forward.


Not sure I agree with that. What makes Anderson a small forward in summer league is the fact that he's standing in the corner while someone else brings up the ball. The Spurs' defense is based on getting back, so there's not really a problem with cross-matching, and teams do it a thousand times a year.

I can't really come up with an example of an opposing second unit that would give them particular problems having Anderson in the game instead of Mills, for instance. Marco Bellineli isn't less of a defensive liability with Parker than he would be with Anderson. Joseph would certainly be less of an offensive liability paired with Anderson, and Manu suddenly gets a break from having to run the second unit.
Enjoying reading all your input so far man, thanks for all this. More than adequate analysis too.

FireMicoHalili
07-15-2014, 11:02 AM
Jordan McRae was a steal at 58, he is a gamer...
Just one game man but yeah I agree, solid j, amazing wingspan for a guy his size

raybies
07-15-2014, 01:15 PM
I saw the game late... Here's a piece on Austin Daye for those interested.

http://spurshomer.blogspot.com/2014/07/summer-league-new-daye.html

DrunkTXLabrat
07-15-2014, 01:34 PM
That's true, but my point was more that I never considered the possibility that Splitter would NOT start immediately. It wasn't even a matter of being a homer or whatever, it was just that he was a veteran center with skins, and the Spurs were horribly in need of a center. The thought that Pop thought he was Duncan's backup never crossed my mind, and I would never have dreamed that Pop was going to make him sit around doing nothing for over a year and a half. If the Spurs couldn't do what I thought was logical in that, the most obvious of situations, then I have to accept my inability to predict anything this staff is going to do with their personnel going forward.


Not sure I agree with that. What makes Anderson a small forward in summer league is the fact that he's standing in the corner while someone else brings up the ball. The Spurs' defense is based on getting back, so there's not really a problem with cross-matching, and teams do it a thousand times a year.

I can't really come up with an example of an opposing second unit that would give them particular problems having Anderson in the game instead of Mills, for instance. Marco Bellineli isn't less of a defensive liability with Parker than he would be with Anderson. Joseph would certainly be less of an offensive liability paired with Anderson, and Manu suddenly gets a break from having to run the second unit.

i woulda looked at it as Pop's failure, not yours.

spurraider21
07-15-2014, 01:47 PM
my main take on Anderson is that he looks comfortable on offense and his passing so far has translated pretty well. If he can accelerate his jump shot, he can vie for some rotation minutes

SpursBills
07-15-2014, 02:02 PM
for those of you who have watched the games, how has anderson looked on d? has udoka mainly been sticking him on wings, or has he been tasked to guard bigger guys as well? his length seems to have translated to him getting some deflections, but how have his lateral quickness/strength been? thanks in advance

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-15-2014, 03:13 PM
Not about the Spurs, but Schroeder looks fucking terrible for the Hawks right now. Flat out started tying his shoe during an in bound play.

Obstructed_View
07-15-2014, 08:56 PM
i woulda looked at it as Pop's failure, not yours.

I definitely look at it that way, but regardless of who's right, I've decided that they aren't going to do what I think is logical.

Obstructed_View
07-15-2014, 09:17 PM
for those of you who have watched the games, how has anderson looked on d? has udoka mainly been sticking him on wings, or has he been tasked to guard bigger guys as well? his length seems to have translated to him getting some deflections, but how have his lateral quickness/strength been? thanks in advance

Udoka has been parking him on opposing threes. He was specifically assigned to Wiggins when they played the Cavs. He's definitely not Bruce Bowen, but Wiggins is a fucking physical stud, a legitimate NBA talent, and Kyle did a perfectly good job at defending him. Unlike many who have passed judgment on him after reading his nickname, I don't think he's slow, he's just not especially quick. Nobody thought he was going to dominate anyone with his athleticism. The Spurs have defensive schemes where you direct your man a specific direction so help can come or passing lanes can be shut down, and he has the awareness to direct people where they need to go. What causes a good shot in the NBA is typically not by being outskilled, it's by having your defense broken down, most often by defensive error. He doesn't strike me as a guy who makes a lot of mistakes, which is why I think he's going to be such a good fit.

And that's the biggest strength I think he has. He's super fucking smart. He knows where everyone is, what the game situation is, and what needs to be done. He cheated off yesterday and fouled someone in the lane. I thought it was a bad foul, and then I realized that he fouled hard enough to prevent the shot from going up because he knew they were shooting a terrible percentage from the line. The guy went one of two. It was just great awareness, and he keeps surprising me with that. He does more than get deflections. He's not just randomly swiping at the ball. He steps away from his man as the ball-handler turns and pokes the ball to a teammate because he anticipated the move. Maybe I just really want to see him succeed, so I'm prepared to be wrong, but I saw Isiah on NBATV today talking about how he has a mental picture of everyone on the court, and that described what I keep thinking about Anderson. I'm seriously geeked to see him play with the big team and hear what they have to say about him.

Obstructed_View
07-15-2014, 09:21 PM
By the way, Phoenix is going to be a power in the west this year. They have some really good talent on the SL team that are going to contribute. Plumlee looks healthy and TJ Warren is a flat-out stud.

Nathan89
07-15-2014, 09:36 PM
That's true, but my point was more that I never considered the possibility that Splitter would NOT start immediately. It wasn't even a matter of being a homer or whatever, it was just that he was a veteran center with skins, and the Spurs were horribly in need of a center. The thought that Pop thought he was Duncan's backup never crossed my mind, and I would never have dreamed that Pop was going to make him sit around doing nothing for over a year and a half. If the Spurs couldn't do what I thought was logical in that, the most obvious of situations, then I have to accept my inability to predict anything this staff is going to do with their personnel going forward.


You expected Pop to make a good coaching decision and he didn't. That became obvious when he had to go with Splitter in that Memphis series after refusing to play him significant time or with Duncan.

Nathan89
07-15-2014, 09:39 PM
KA completed 2 teardrops in those highlights. Something he did on occasion in college or something he may be adding since becoming a Spur? Anyone know?

xmas1997
07-15-2014, 09:40 PM
Udoka has been parking him on opposing threes. He was specifically assigned to Wiggins when they played the Cavs. He's definitely not Bruce Bowen, but Wiggins is a fucking physical stud, a legitimate NBA talent, and Kyle did a perfectly good job at defending him. Unlike many who have passed judgment on him after reading his nickname, I don't think he's slow, he's just not especially quick. Nobody thought he was going to dominate anyone with his athleticism. The Spurs have defensive schemes where you direct your man a specific direction so help can come or passing lanes can be shut down, and he has the awareness to direct people where they need to go. What causes a good shot in the NBA is typically not by being outskilled, it's by having your defense broken down, most often by defensive error. He doesn't strike me as a guy who makes a lot of mistakes, which is why I think he's going to be such a good fit.

And that's the biggest strength I think he has. He's super fucking smart. He knows where everyone is, what the game situation is, and what needs to be done. He cheated off yesterday and fouled someone in the lane. I thought it was a bad foul, and then I realized that he fouled hard enough to prevent the shot from going up because he knew they were shooting a terrible percentage from the line. The guy went one of two. It was just great awareness, and he keeps surprising me with that. He does more than get deflections. He's not just randomly swiping at the ball. He steps away from his man as the ball-handler turns and pokes the ball to a teammate because he anticipated the move. Maybe I just really want to see him succeed, so I'm prepared to be wrong, but I saw Isiah on NBATV today talking about how he has a mental picture of everyone on the court, and that described what I keep thinking about Anderson. I'm seriously geeked to see him play with the big team and hear what they have to say about him.

Again, I know exactly what you mean.
I don't want to get my hopes up, but every time I see him play, he more than delivers.
Yet even then I still don't want to get over excited lest I jinx him in some silly way.
I have not been this excited about a Spurs draft pick since Manu, he is going to be special.
On the offensive side Pop needs to take UCLA Coach Alfords' advice and use him as a PG in as many situations as possible, he won't be sorry.

ace3g
07-15-2014, 10:14 PM
Paul Garcia PS @PaulGarciaPS
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaPS)RT @BucksPR (https://twitter.com/BucksPR/): The next Bucks next Summer League game will be Wednesday at 5:30 p.m. CT vs. San Antonio

Obstructed_View
07-15-2014, 10:14 PM
You expected Pop to make a good coaching decision and he didn't. That became obvious when he had to go with Splitter in that Memphis series after refusing to play him significant time or with Duncan.

I certainly expected him to make what I thought was a logical decision, but I also think the Cowboys should run the ball when they have a lead. Pop has his ways, and it works a large percentage of the time. Sometimes I think he overthinks things, and I get emotionally invested in what I think is right because I know there's a finite window where Duncan is going to be contributing and I hate to see a second of it wasted. But again, my point is more that I completely got caught off guard because I made an assumption about the lineups. I certainly won't be surprised if Anderson goes right to Austin and never even travels with the team prior to the RRT, but I'll be highly disappointed.

Obstructed_View
07-15-2014, 10:16 PM
KA completed 2 teardrops in those highlights. Something he did on occasion in college or something he may be adding since becoming a Spur? Anyone know?

He's got a really great touch with both hands. I'd guess that's a shot that's been in his arsenal for a while, but it's a pretty easy shot to get good at. Not sure why more guys don't do it.

TheGoldStandard
07-15-2014, 10:22 PM
He's got a really great touch with both hands. I'd guess that's a shot that's been in his arsenal for a while, but it's a pretty easy shot to get good at. Not sure why more guys don't do it.

No flash with a simple runner but it's bread and butter if you execute it especially at 6'9. It's just amazing to watch him play with his knowledge of the game so far because he's only 20 and has yet to play an official NBA game. If Pop will give him some minutes this season outside of garbage time his learning curve will be that much better especially with established players who are not just looking to score.

Obstructed_View
07-15-2014, 10:34 PM
Logic tells me that there's simply not a better fit for a young player with really good court vision and a team-first attitude than this Spurs team, and that's why I'm trying not to be heartbroken if Pop just doesn't give him a shot this season.

TheGoldStandard
07-15-2014, 10:38 PM
Logic tells me that there's simply not a better fit for a young player with really good court vision and a team-first attitude than this Spurs team, and that's why I'm trying not to be heartbroken if Pop just doesn't give him a shot this season.

We played Jeff Ayres in a lot of RS games, if that fool can touch the floor than a rookie should be able to at least sniff the court especially with his upside and talent.

Chinook
07-15-2014, 10:41 PM
Paul Garcia PS @PaulGarciaPS
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaPS)RT @BucksPR (https://twitter.com/BucksPR/): The next Bucks next Summer League game will be Wednesday at 5:30 p.m. CT vs. San Antonio



Do we know if this will be on TV or not?

toki9
07-15-2014, 10:51 PM
He's got a really great touch with both hands. I'd guess that's a shot that's been in his arsenal for a while, but it's a pretty easy shot to get good at. Not sure why more guys don't do it.

There also seems to be a slight natural fade away to his jumper...hard to tell from tv, but his "slow" jumper may be more difficult to block than it appears...

TheGoldStandard
07-15-2014, 10:54 PM
There also seems to be a slight natural fade away to his jumper...hard to tell from tv, but his "slow" jumper may be more difficult to block than it appears...

His release is above eye level but he cocks his head back to track the ball which is something chip will probably work on.

raybies
07-15-2014, 11:19 PM
Do we know if this will be on TV or not?

Well if the time scheme is anything like it has been, it appears to not be on NBA TV live.

exstatic
07-15-2014, 11:20 PM
Logic tells me that there's simply not a better fit for a young player with really good court vision and a team-first attitude than this Spurs team, and that's why I'm trying not to be heartbroken if Pop just doesn't give him a shot this season.

Well, the active game roster is 13, and you can count on Patty being one of the inactives until February. Couple that with usual rest games, and Kyle will probably be active a number of times in the first three months. He'll at least see time in blowouts.

ducks
07-15-2014, 11:21 PM
IF SUNS LANDED JAMES SUNS WOULD BE A GREAT TEAM EVEN IF THEY DID NOT SIGN ANYONE ELSE
SUNS WITH LOVE WOULD BE TOUGH TO
IF WOLVES CAN ONLY GET PICKS AND STUFF SUNS COULD TRY TO GET HIM

Russ
07-15-2014, 11:34 PM
Do we know if this will be on TV or not?

Looks like it will be on NBA TV at 3:00 a.m. Central Thursday morning (if I'm extrapolating correctly).

Baam
07-15-2014, 11:51 PM
Paul Garcia PS @PaulGarciaPS
(https://twitter.com/PaulGarciaPS)RT @BucksPR (https://twitter.com/BucksPR/): The next Bucks next Summer League game will be Wednesday at 5:30 p.m. CT vs. San Antonio



Jabari and the Greak Freek :hungry:

raybies
07-16-2014, 12:45 AM
489273461013876736

489273298157457408

LakerHater
07-16-2014, 02:43 AM
http://giant.gfycat.com/SparseFarawayBunting.gif

http://i.minus.com/iRBPFRjPaloX1.gif

kobyz
07-16-2014, 06:43 AM
Just one game man but yeah I agree, solid j, amazing wingspan for a guy his size

Yet another great game, he could be a lockdown defender also, it's look like he will make spurs feel sorry for gettin rid of him...

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:59 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsoryiqCQAEBnAM.jpg:large

xmas1997
07-16-2014, 08:13 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BsoryiqCQAEBnAM.jpg:large

Thanks, ace3g.

Obstructed_View
07-16-2014, 10:35 AM
IF SUNS LANDED JAMES SUNS WOULD BE A GREAT TEAM EVEN IF THEY DID NOT SIGN ANYONE ELSE
SUNS WITH LOVE WOULD BE TOUGH TO
IF WOLVES CAN ONLY GET PICKS AND STUFF SUNS COULD TRY TO GET HIM
Wrong thread, 79.

Darius McCrary
07-16-2014, 04:19 PM
So does Anderson play center in small ball

Obstructed_View
07-16-2014, 04:43 PM
So does Anderson play center in small ball

What does that even mean?

raybies
07-16-2014, 05:04 PM
It appears the Spurs game is going to be live on NBA TV. They are currently airing bonus coverage and the 5 pm game already started.

Chinook
07-16-2014, 05:07 PM
Well, that's one ref who's not making to the NBA. If he tosses folks for staring him down, Durant won't see more than a minute on the floor.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 05:22 PM
Well, that's one ref who's not making to the NBA. If he tosses folks for staring him down, Durant won't see more than a minute on the floor.

What time is the live game? 5:30 Central?

SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 05:23 PM
What does that even mean?

I'm guessing he's asking if Anderson can play center in a small-ball lineup...in which case no, that probably wouldn't work out at all. Dude is too skinny to play PF at this point, much less bang down low in the paint with other centers. He'd get bullied.

Chinook
07-16-2014, 05:24 PM
What time is the live game? 5:30 Central?

Believe so.

jyra
07-16-2014, 05:25 PM
Apparently players can foul out now with 6 PFs. I guess that's the best hope for limiting Ayres minutes.

xmas1997
07-16-2014, 05:25 PM
I do think he could easily play point guard on the offensive side of the court, but would have to guard the SGs and the SFs on the defensive side.

tholdren
07-16-2014, 05:27 PM
Daye is awful. At this point, even if he has an Anthony Tolliver game, I don't think the Spurs are going to save a roster spot for him.
but he made KA look like a scrub last SL game... where is this "lottery talent" stuff?

SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 05:31 PM
Anyone see that gamewinner by Charlotte? Pretty crazy.

benefactor
07-16-2014, 05:32 PM
Anyone see that gamewinner by Charlotte? Pretty crazy.
Turned it on just in time to see it. Bananas shot.

raybies
07-16-2014, 05:33 PM
Anyone see that gamewinner by Charlotte? Pretty crazy.

Yah. The Summer League has been rather interesting this year.

Nathan89
07-16-2014, 05:41 PM
KA for 333

benefactor
07-16-2014, 05:41 PM
Just cut Errors and eat the money

Obstructed_View
07-16-2014, 05:42 PM
I'm guessing he's asking if Anderson can play center in a small-ball lineup...in which case no, that probably wouldn't work out at all. Dude is too skinny to play PF at this point, much less bang down low in the paint with other centers. He'd get bullied.

Doesn't even make sense. I have no idea what could necessitate putting him at center in any situation. I guess if Diaw and Bonner and Kawhi are all injured at the same time and Duncan and Splitter were fouled out.

jyra
07-16-2014, 05:42 PM
Interesting that KA is guarding Parker, not Giannis.

-21-
07-16-2014, 05:43 PM
Easy miss for Ayres.

Rito3d30
07-16-2014, 05:43 PM
Anderson again:wow

Obstructed_View
07-16-2014, 05:44 PM
but he made KA look like a scrub last SL game... where is this "lottery talent" stuff?

Box score tell you that again?

Nathan89
07-16-2014, 05:45 PM
Anderson with a nice steal on Wiggens an Parker in summer league.

r0drig0lac
07-16-2014, 05:45 PM
anderson looks like it could be a solid defender, with many steals

SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 05:45 PM
Anderson looking fantastic so far.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 05:45 PM
JA jumper

Chinook
07-16-2014, 05:45 PM
Kyle in Anderson 2.0 mode.

-21-
07-16-2014, 05:46 PM
Another one for Anderson.

Nathan89
07-16-2014, 05:47 PM
Spurs get the best player in the draft again.:toast

TheyCallMePro
07-16-2014, 05:47 PM
Love how many touches Anderson is getting thus far. Wasn't getting nearly as many the previous 3 games.

TheGreatYacht
07-16-2014, 05:48 PM
Finally they're making Anderson the primary option instead of making him stand in the corner

Kasen
07-16-2014, 05:48 PM
wow, what an amazing start for KA!

tholdren
07-16-2014, 05:48 PM
Box score tell you that again?
nope, watched the last one. And there is no way you can say that KA played better than Daye if you watched the game, or just read the box.

jeebus
07-16-2014, 05:48 PM
Apparently players can foul out now with 6 PFs. I guess that's the best hope for limiting Ayres minutes.
Even the league got tired of seeing that piece of dog shit stink up the court so they changed the rules. Fuck Errors.

KL2
07-16-2014, 05:50 PM
KA is really lengthy, seen him make some nice deflections on passes this SL.

jeebus
07-16-2014, 05:50 PM
good god ayres is obnoxiously annoying. I wish he would fall and snap his legs in half

TheGreatYacht
07-16-2014, 05:50 PM
TRADE AYRES AFTER THE 1ST QUARTER RC.. Do ettttttttt

KL2
07-16-2014, 05:51 PM
Nice pass Ayres lol

jeebus
07-16-2014, 05:51 PM
Nice pass Ayres lol
that simple bounce pass?

TheGreatYacht
07-16-2014, 05:52 PM
JaMychal Green the future of this franchise

BatManu20
07-16-2014, 05:53 PM
Anderson being aggressive. Good stuff.

KL2
07-16-2014, 05:56 PM
that simple bounce pass?

Coming from him, yes.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 05:57 PM
Believe so.

Yeah! And, luckily they were a minute or three late. Life good.

SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 05:58 PM
JaMychal Green the future of this franchise

Don't see how he could be any worse than Ayres at this point lol.

BatManu20
07-16-2014, 05:58 PM
Green with another athletic block

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 05:58 PM
Yeah! And, luckily they were a minute or three late. Life good.

Daye doin more little things. Shhh.

BatManu20
07-16-2014, 05:59 PM
These guys are finally moving the ball and playing well together instead of trying to impress and chucking

TheGoldStandard
07-16-2014, 06:00 PM
Digging KA so far... Green putting in work, that guy has hustle all over him

TheGreatYacht
07-16-2014, 06:00 PM
Deshaun Thomas and Daye being unselfish? Udoka, wow.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 06:02 PM
Daye doin more little things. Shhh.

Defends well draws a miss and an offensive foul...then an assist for a three...then a no look hockey assist running the break...three consecutive posessions...

TheGoldStandard
07-16-2014, 06:03 PM
Daye finally relaxing a bit in the right way, pushing himself but not to the point of mistakes, taking what the game is giving him and looking for teammates. KA has been impressive, I think he was told to look for his today and he's doing just that.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 06:04 PM
Deshaun Thomas and Daye being unselfish? Udoka, wow.

Austin is a great assist guy...don't let his first two summer league games fool you.

KL2
07-16-2014, 06:04 PM
I like Green, looks like he could really help out, shot blocking and rebounding ability, great size will allow him to guard big long SF's and athletic PF's. If just 1 or 2 of these guys can become playoff contributors, RIP NBA.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 06:05 PM
Digging KA so far... Green putting in work, that guy has hustle all over him

Yeah. He looks good...

TheGoldStandard
07-16-2014, 06:06 PM
Green is far better than Ayres in every conceivable way, I'm sure Ayres dad would agree.

BatManu20
07-16-2014, 06:07 PM
If Green could develop a consistent or at least reliable 15 ft jump shot, he could be really good.

SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 06:07 PM
Green is far better than Ayres in every conceivable way, I'm sure Ayres dad would agree.

"You're the son I never had :cry Not you Jeff sit the fuck down"

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 06:09 PM
I like Green, looks like he could really help out, shot blocking and rebounding ability, great size will allow him to guard big long SF's and athletic PF's. If just 1 or 2 of these guys can become playoff contributors, RIP NBA.

Yes, he is the standout of the "rest of the field" guys... Morris maybe some too...but he can't shoot the three so that limits his potential with us

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-16-2014, 06:10 PM
All the Spurs-Bucks games this season gonna be looking like this too.

TheGreatYacht
07-16-2014, 06:10 PM
Ayres finally found something he's good at?!?! Thank you god

TheGreatYacht
07-16-2014, 06:12 PM
Austin is a great assist guy...don't let his first two summer league games fool you.
Yeah I never paid attention to his play before last year. Thanks for the heads up

FlAVaK
07-16-2014, 06:13 PM
Ayres finally found something he's good at?!?! Thank you god

Getting run over by inexperienced Rookies. 3 Charges already...

BatManu20
07-16-2014, 06:14 PM
Pass the ball Daye..

Raven
07-16-2014, 06:21 PM
i see a lot of defensive potential in KA, it's much much better than i expected.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 06:21 PM
Yeah I never paid attention to his play before last year. Thanks for the heads up

No problem. I didn't think anyone read what I wrote. :)

jyra
07-16-2014, 06:22 PM
Gaddefors sighting, I wonder why he hasn't seen any playing time until now.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:25 PM
Gaddefors sighting, I wonder why he hasn't seen any playing time until now.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:25 PM
Holy Shit, the Mountain, is playing for the Bucks

Chinook
07-16-2014, 06:25 PM
I think Daye has been clearly the best player for the Spurs' SL team, but it's also equally clear Anderson is the smartest. Even his negative plays seem to be well-planned.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:27 PM
Rey dunk

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-16-2014, 06:31 PM
Can I get a travel? Giannis took like 5 steps

r0drig0lac
07-16-2014, 06:31 PM
giannis durant hammer

jyra
07-16-2014, 06:32 PM
Crazy to see a guy his size splitting a P&R.

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-16-2014, 06:44 PM
NBA agenda trying to make Parker look better. Anderson keeps him at 0 without the refs treating him like James Harden.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:46 PM
Green keeping play alive with O rebound

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-16-2014, 06:47 PM
THAT PLAY!

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:47 PM
Cotton dunk alert

SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 06:48 PM
I really like Green's hustle...dude has really won me over (at least as much as one can be impressed by SL performance).

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:48 PM
another slick pass from KA

Russ
07-16-2014, 06:51 PM
J. Parker with 8 points -- all from the line.

Now that's respect.

LakerHater
07-16-2014, 06:52 PM
http://i57.tinypic.com/1z22645.jpg

TheyCallMePro
07-16-2014, 06:52 PM
These guys are finally moving the ball and playing well together instead of trying to impress and chucking

So much this. I've expressed disgust with how we played the first 3 games and got blasted by morons like Obstructed_view who somehow don't know how spurs basketball is supposed to be played.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:53 PM
Green with a off balance runner, sure

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:54 PM
Green and Thomas keeping the ball alive

ace3g
07-16-2014, 06:55 PM
Spurs got to play some top talent in Summer league: Exum next game.

SanDiegoSpursFan
07-16-2014, 06:56 PM
Thomas' stats would look so much better if he made the easy looks he's had. Missed 2 close shots in a span of 3 seconds, and the same thing happened last game except he missed the 3rd attempt too.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 07:02 PM
JaMychal "Putback" Green

loveforthegame
07-16-2014, 07:04 PM
Green continues to impress. :tu

SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 07:04 PM
JaMychal "Putback" Green

I feel like he's had a putback slam in every game so far.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 07:09 PM
Pass the ball Daye..

I think he's only taken 3 shots? And, he probably has at least three assists, and a hockey assist on a no look pass. He IS passing. What's killing him is he's having another shitty shooting night from 3.

Nine shots, edit.

BatManu20
07-16-2014, 07:13 PM
I think he's only taken 3 shots? And, he probably has at least three assists, and a hockey assist on a no look pass. He IS passing. What's killing him is he's having another shitty shooting night from 3.

I posted that after a 2-on-1 fast break in which he should've passed to Anderson but instead lowered his head and turned it over.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 07:15 PM
I posted that after a 2-on-1 fast break in which he should've passed to Anderson but instead lowered his head and turned it over.

I see...yeah...the charge.

littlecoyotecoin
07-16-2014, 07:26 PM
I think Daye has been clearly the best player for the Spurs' SL team, but it's also equally clear Anderson is the smartest. Even his negative plays seem to be well-planned.

He has played well. I don't know how clear it is that he's the best with his continued poor shooting. That is the thing I expect him to do well, but at least he's doing other things to stay relevant. Glad you are seeing good things, too, and I'm not being delusional.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 07:29 PM
Hopefully Gaddefors gets some more minutes

ace3g
07-16-2014, 07:35 PM
https://s.yimg.com/sr/img/1/f906c6cc-7eeb-3ee5-af31-068ffe3ed483

https://s1.yimg.com/sr/img/1/2d8b585a-a6c5-3857-b648-168f6cbacf19

emanueldavidginobili
07-16-2014, 07:38 PM
Couldn't catch the game, how did Kyle do?

BatManu20
07-16-2014, 07:39 PM
Couldn't catch the game, how did Kyle do?

14 pts, 3 rbs, and 2 asts. Played well for the most part.

Captivus
07-16-2014, 07:42 PM
I liked KA. He could have gotten a few more assists...but Ayres missed under the basket layups.
Green looked good too.

TheGoldStandard
07-16-2014, 07:45 PM
The only knock on KA is that he's wearing KD's shoes

Hoops Czar
07-16-2014, 07:47 PM
Not intrigued by Daye at all. I've seen what he can do at the NBA level and he's basically a scrub. Could care less how he performs against JV/D-League talent.

I hope Green gets an invite to camp. I'm not sure he could make the roster but he has the tools to be an NBA player. He could be a Neal-like find and might just blossum into his own.

RD2191
07-16-2014, 07:48 PM
The only knock on KA is that he's wearing KD's shoes
Get him out of here, RC.

TheGoldStandard
07-16-2014, 07:50 PM
Green has shown a lot of hustle and a willingness to scrap for rebounds, all the dirty little things plus he has some athleticism. He's worth a camp invite and if he can dedicate himself to getting a decent 3 ball he might be worth something down the line.

Mal
07-16-2014, 07:53 PM
Didnt watch the game. How such blowout was made ? Who was good ?

exstatic
07-16-2014, 08:03 PM
Didnt watch the game. How such blowout was made ? Who was good ?

Not Milwaukee...

$pursDynasty
07-16-2014, 08:03 PM
I like the idea of Green at the end of our bench much more than I do Daye.

Mal
07-16-2014, 08:05 PM
Not Milwaukee...

They are that bad ? Even in fucking summer league ?

exstatic
07-16-2014, 08:07 PM
The only knock on KA is that he's wearing KD's shoes

KD called him the best player in the HS class of 2012.

TheGoldStandard
07-16-2014, 08:11 PM
KD called him the best player in the HS class of 2012.
I've read the quote, KA has so much potential... I was just joshing by the way, those shoes are actually kinda comfortable.

exstatic
07-16-2014, 08:28 PM
I've read the quote, KA has so much potential... I was just joshing by the way, those shoes are actually kinda comfortable.

I figured.

You have to wonder how KD felt when OKC passed on KA and reached for Huertis.

TheGoldStandard
07-16-2014, 08:29 PM
I figured.

You have to wonder how KD felt when OKC passed on KA and reached for Huertis.

Wizards here I come

ace3g
07-16-2014, 09:28 PM
Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)After four games in Vegas, Buford convinced Kyle Anderson a match: "Guys who are slow and can't jump, they fit pretty good in San Antonio."

ace3g
07-16-2014, 09:38 PM
Jeff McDonald @JMcDonald_SAEN
(https://twitter.com/JMcDonald_SAEN)Buford: He's got an unusual skill set. It's going to cause us to be purposeful in how we play with him, how we use him and how we help him."

TheGoldStandard
07-16-2014, 09:41 PM
Pop: You've got a lot of tools Kyle but we just need you to stand in the corner and shoot 3's, can you do that?

ducks
07-16-2014, 10:03 PM
how will the new assistant help pop with him

Solid D
07-16-2014, 10:04 PM
Pop: You've got a lot of tools Kyle but we just need you to stand in the corner and shoot 3's, can you do that?

Haha. That would be a major shame, but you may be partially correct in assuming that.

I hope not.

Biggems
07-16-2014, 10:13 PM
so who do we get to play next. I don't really understand the summer league format. I tried reading it on nba.com, but it still didn't make sense to me.

so far, I like what I see from Anderson, Morris, Green, and even Thomas.

I am very disappointed in Ayres and Daye. I was really hoping Daye would show something other than SUCK.

The biggest disappointment for me has been no Richards thus far. I have never seen him play. Good or bad, I just want to see what he has to offer as a prospect,

SpursFan86
07-16-2014, 10:15 PM
We play the Jazz tomorrow. 5:30 central time IIRC.

exstatic
07-16-2014, 10:17 PM
Pop: You've got a lot of tools Kyle but we just need you to stand in the corner and shoot 3's, can you do that?

Doubtful. He's a better basketball player than Kawhi was when he showed up. I was listening to the telecast, and Kawhi couldn't even dribble left handed when he showed up here. That's why he stood in the corner for a year. It was a way to keep his defense on the floor.

ace3g
07-16-2014, 10:17 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFZFXvVm7Ss

exstatic
07-16-2014, 10:20 PM
We play the Jazz tomorrow. 5:30 central time IIRC.

The initial bracket is on p 46 for anyone who is interested.

Obstructed_View
07-17-2014, 12:13 AM
So much this. I've expressed disgust with how we played the first 3 games and got blasted by morons like Obstructed_view who somehow don't know how spurs basketball is supposed to be played.

Actually you said they played poorly in game 3 when they didn't. I simply suggested, along with at least two other people, that you didn't watch the game. Almost none of your characterizations of game three were accurate.

Prime Time
07-17-2014, 12:22 AM
Is Anderson's defense really as good as it is on paper? It seems he's done a wonderful job containing the top 2 picks of this draft, but I'm not sure if it's his defense as much as it's them missing make-able shots.

Obstructed_View
07-17-2014, 12:35 AM
So, anyway...

I thought this was Austin Daye's best game. He actually had a sequence where he looked like he was trying hard. He executed a perfect pick-and-pop for a three that made me yell for him. Yeah, he then shot two more of them and clanged them. Kind of redeemed himself the next trip down when he could have jacked up another, but instead threw a perfect swing pass for a three. Very nicely done. He also had a great no-look pass on the break for a hockey assist. He also had one of the ugliest one-on-three fast breaks I've seen in a while. At least we know he's capable of moving at something approaching full speed. Now for him to try to do it for an entire game. Grant Hill pretty much said what we've all said about Daye, in that there's just something not right about him, wondering aloud why he isn't a whole lot better.

Jeff Ayres was really good in this game. Was it "good for Jeff Ayres", good? Probably. But given the way he's played in SL, this was nearly "great for Jeff Ayres", good. He had some really good passes, caught almost everything that came his way, set proper screens, handled the ball well, and was in good position at almost all times. Funny how much better the team looks when their inside bigs aren't doing stupid shit.

Kyle Anderson can put up numbers when he's got the ball in his hands once in a while. It was kind of refreshing to see him get a chance to distribute a bit, though there wasn't nearly enough motion on offense for much of the game. I'd like to see Bullet Time running point every time he's on the floor, but I'm starting to feel like the Spurs know he's going to get chances to play later on and they can put Anderson into some situations that make him work while they evaluate guys like Morris and Cotton to see if they have any value. Yes and no, respectively. Saw more to indicate that Kyle's a good defender and a deceptive leaper.

Morris is intriguing when he's on. Does some boneheaded crap, but it's summer league. I think he could be pretty solid as a backup, but I don't think he has any range. That kills most of the guys on the team.

Green's almost certainly going to get an invite to camp based on his hustle, his defense, and his smarts. I'm not entirely sure that Green has made a silly mistake in four games, which would make him the only one.

Have I mentioned how much I wish Deshaun Thomas were about half a foot taller? Sigh. He's such a good post player, and he's a good inside player, but he just doesn't have any ability to play above the rim.

I like pretty much everyone on this team, and I'm rooting for all of them. I think Vander Blue and Ejim and maybe even McKinney-Jones could scare up some interest from other teams. Xavi Ray has his moments. Not enough of them, though. Been a really fun summer league so far.

ElNono
07-17-2014, 12:41 AM
I like that kid Blue, and Rey I thought was good too.

Obstructed_View
07-17-2014, 12:41 AM
Is Anderson's defense really as good as it is on paper? It seems he's done a wonderful job containing the top 2 picks of this draft, but I'm not sure if it's his defense as much as it's them missing make-able shots.
Not sure. There's still no indication that he's any kind of lock-down individual defender, but he's not nearly as slow as people say, and his arms are just stupid long. He's done a pretty darn good job, especially considering many people's expectations. He really frustrated Wiggins, picking his pocket in the open court and drawing a frustration foul. For every steal he gets, there's probably almost two that he causes for his teammates. He's really good at redirecting rebounds to the right spots. I mentioned this a few games back, but after he lost his man a few times in game one, he hasn't done it at all (that I've seen) since. If his man shoots, he's in the area with a hand up.

Obstructed_View
07-17-2014, 12:43 AM
nope, watched the last one. And there is no way you can say that KA played better than Daye if you watched the game, or just read the box.

Smarter people than you have been dazzled by Daye's size and ability to almost be really good.

SnakeBoy
07-17-2014, 01:13 AM
caught almost everything that came his way,

Well he caught about half of them, the rest he managed to grab after the ball bounced off his hands.

SpursFan86
07-17-2014, 02:18 AM
Given his BBIQ + size, along with what we've seen in SL, I think KA will at least be capable of being an average defender. A lot of people were saying he'd be a complete liability on D given his lack of athleticism, but I'm not so sure. He's never going to be a lockdown defender, but he won't be taken advantage of night in and night out IMO. He's done a great job on both Wiggins and Parker, which is pretty encouraging considering Wiggins is one of the most athletic players in his draft class and Parker was supposed to be the most NBA-ready offensive player.

Kasen
07-17-2014, 02:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5pB8eEqbHA&feature=youtu.be

DrunkTXLabrat
07-17-2014, 03:06 AM
i lost focus by half time. i couldn't believe how good the team looked, overall. I especially like Green. I agree with anybody who's calling for him to have a training camp invite. I think he can make the roster. Ayers can just get cut if it comes down to it. I'll also give Daye some credit for looking better than i initially thought.

DrunkTXLabrat
07-17-2014, 03:08 AM
Antetokounpo and Cabocoulo fuel my doubts about stashing LJC. i think there is a similarity there.

Chinook
07-17-2014, 04:08 AM
Antetokounpo and Cabocoulo fuel my doubts about stashing LJC. i think there is a similarity there.

I don't see any of their cases as being remotely similar.

siraulo23
07-17-2014, 04:24 AM
let's get the SL 'ship tbh... :lobt2:

emanueldavidginobili
07-17-2014, 05:15 AM
KA offensive moves remind me a lot of Paul Pierce

littlecoyotecoin
07-17-2014, 05:31 AM
Given his BBIQ + size, along with what we've seen in SL, I think KA will at least be capable of being an average defender. A lot of people were saying he'd be a complete liability on D given his lack of athleticism, but I'm not so sure. He's never going to be a lockdown defender, but he won't be taken advantage of night in and night out IMO. He's done a great job on both Wiggins and Parker, which is pretty encouraging considering Wiggins is one of the most athletic players in his draft class and Parker was supposed to be the most NBA-ready offensive player.

During another bad shooting display, Daye helped Parker to a poor showing by playing some solid defense, and helping Parker commit 7 turnovers...Daye had 4 assists and only one turnover in 16+ minutes. He is a jumpshot away from dominating the game, really. Still leading the team in rebounding. The other teams have been lucky he doesn't have a jumpshot at this point. He and Anderson did well.

Captivus
07-17-2014, 06:35 AM
It was kind of refreshing to see him get a chance to distribute a bit, though there wasn't nearly enough motion on offense for much of the game..

Exactly. I believe we will actually see how good he is once he plays with a few NBA players.
Shame Mills is injured, having a shooter like him playing with KA would have been great to see.

Captivus
07-17-2014, 06:44 AM
I like that kid Blue, and Rey I thought was good too.

Really? I didnt like any of them. Blue was trying to shoot every time he had the ball and Rey made stupid mistakes (fuols).
Looking at the box score, Blue didnt do as bad as I thought watching the game...

MIL: Wolters looked good IMO. He needs the ball more.

BillMc
07-17-2014, 08:15 AM
ESPN gave KA a "B" for yesterday, and used a funny sort-of-complimentary horror movie analogy.

Kyle Anderson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson), San Antonio Spurs | Grade: B
Anderson’s drives have a horror-film sense of impending doom to them, as they’re so slow that you actually have time to imagine all the ways it could go horribly wrong. The thing is, Anderson is the rare intelligent protagonist, as he often steps or fakes his way out of danger at the last moment to make defenders look foolish. Of course you wish he could speed up the form on his jumper so he could unfurl it quicker against closing defenders, but what can you say? He plays to his own beat. -- Foster

espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/69859/las-vegas-summer-league-day-6-grades

xmas1997
07-17-2014, 08:24 AM
Kyle Anderson can put up numbers when he's got the ball in his hands once in a while. It was kind of refreshing to see him get a chance to distribute a bit, though there wasn't nearly enough motion on offense for much of the game. I'd like to see Bullet Time running point every time he's on the floor, but I'm starting to feel like the Spurs know he's going to get chances to play later on and they can put Anderson into some situations that make him work while they evaluate guys like Morris and Cotton to see if they have any value. Yes and no, respectively. Saw more to indicate that Kyle's a good defender and a deceptive leaper.

Excellent take as always, thank you.

Like I said once before, at this point I think Pop already knows how they are going to use Kyle, as a distributor, facilitator, and creator, and maybe even some at the point doing what he does best.
They may be putting him in various situations now to see what else he has off the ball as well as how he defends certain positions.
I don't think they have had a player this good, at so many skill levels in a long time. It is a luxury for the Spurs.

I, for one, will be very surprised if he even sees the Toros at this point, much more plays for them, and would not be surprised if he breaks into the rotation sooned than expected at least on the second team and especially since Mills will be out for so long. He will never replace Mills 3 pt. shooting, but in just about every other category he should exceed. Mills better get well fast. :lol

Pop will be scratching his head trying to figure out the best places and times to put him in the game in order to best use him, but what a nice problem to have.

Blizzardwizard
07-17-2014, 08:36 AM
Anderson is an intriguing and unique prospect who with a little fine tuning could prove to be really useful in the future. If he can work on his jumper and continues to play the point he'll be getting up shots against smaller PG and SG easily which will no doubt cause bigger defenders to switch on to him which will really disrupt the opposition's way of playing if they are forced to bring bigger players out to the perimeter.

Whisky Dog
07-17-2014, 08:40 AM
Excellent take as always, thank you.

Like I said once before, at this point I think Pop already knows how they are going to use Kyle, as a distributor, facilitator, and creator, and maybe even some at the point doing what he does best.
They may be putting him in various situations now to see what else he has off the ball as well as how he defends certain positions.
I don't think they have had a player this good, at so many skill levels in a long time. It is a luxury for the Spurs.

I, for one, will be very surprised if he even sees the Toros at this point, much more plays for them, and would not be surprised if he breaks into the rotation sooned than expected at least on the second team and especially since Mills will be out for so long. He will never replace Mills 3 pt. shooting, but in just about every other category he should exceed. Mills better get well fast. :lol

Pop will be scratching his head trying to figure out the best places and times to put him in the game in order to best use him, but what a nice problem to have.

Looking good against summer league stiffs and fellow rookies is a long ways away from holding his own in the real game against real NBA comp. I would be surprised if he didn't get some Toros time to at least get game work on the system and stay sharp.

Dex
07-17-2014, 08:42 AM
Of course you wish he could speed up the form on his jumper so he could unfurl it quicker against closing defenders, but what can you say? He plays to his own beat. -- Foster



That's something I just noticed as I was watching those highlights from the last game.

Anderson's jumper is SLOOOOOW. Very deliberate. Reminds me of Vince Carter's form a bit, but slower.

KA and Chip are going to have their work cut out on that. It's going to have to improve if he is going to succeed in the league.

xmas1997
07-17-2014, 08:47 AM
ESPN gave KA a "B" for yesterday, and used a funny sort-of-complimentary horror movie analogy.

Kyle Anderson (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2993874/kyle-anderson), San Antonio Spurs | Grade: B
Anderson’s drives have a horror-film sense of impending doom to them, as they’re so slow that you actually have time to imagine all the ways it could go horribly wrong. The thing is, Anderson is the rare intelligent protagonist, as he often steps or fakes his way out of danger at the last moment to make defenders look foolish. Of course you wish he could speed up the form on his jumper so he could unfurl it quicker against closing defenders, but what can you say? He plays to his own beat. -- Foster

espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/69859/las-vegas-summer-league-day-6-grades




:lol Plays to his own beat. At this point I feel fairly positive Chip will tweak his shooting form and speed.



Anderson is an intriguing and unique prospect who with a little fine tuning could prove to be really useful in the future. If he can work on his jumper and continues to play the point he'll be getting up shots against smaller PG and SG easily which will no doubt cause bigger defenders to switch on to him which will really disrupt the opposition's way of playing if they are forced to bring bigger players out to the perimeter.


What a nice option to have, as if the Spurs didn't give opposing teams enough problems already. :lol

TheGoldStandard
07-17-2014, 10:33 AM
Everytime I look at his shot there just a few tweaks to it that will make it much better. He brings the ball back too far because he cocks his head back when he shoots and I think he does that to create arc on his shot which he could correct if his shooting motion didn't go out into space but up above his head.

silverblackfan
07-17-2014, 10:49 AM
Well he caught about half of them, the rest he managed to grab after the ball bounced off his hands.
Truth. He bobbled a few, but managed to get ahold of them mostly. Lost a few out of bounds due to fumbling a catch.