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r0drig0lac
11-04-2016, 07:38 AM
you have to be a wet pussy to cheer for Dominos Durant
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NameLess Scrub
11-04-2016, 07:50 AM
There is nothing likable about either of these 2 guys. One is the typical chucker in the mold of Baron Davis,Marbury,Francis but is more athletic. The other despite being a top 3 player is super passive aggressive and is a follower.
Tbh...
NameLess Scrub
11-04-2016, 07:57 AM
Westbrook said he'd "rather win with dignity than lose like a coward." Damn right.KD has no business talking shit to former OKC teammates when he is the one who jumped ship to take a stroll in the park with the splash brothers and a 73-win team. KD is weak. He couldn't hack it in OKC as the leader.
It would make more sense to me if he said "rather lose with dignity than win like a coward".
That would represent an actual struggle. Winning with dignity vs losing cowardly is a no brainer.
elemento
11-04-2016, 09:41 AM
Exciting player, plays hard every play, but exposed per par as the stupid ass low IQ player he is.
Cry Havoc
11-04-2016, 08:04 PM
Westbrook said he'd [B]"rather win with dignity than lose like a coward."
Translation: I have to be the leader of the team and will never learn to defer to teammates unless I'm in the limelight. I value that more than playing as a team and winning.
SuperCam
11-11-2016, 10:55 PM
27/14/9 in 35 minutes :wow
Kawhitstorm
11-11-2016, 11:02 PM
27/14/9 in 35 minutes :wow
Owns Choke-P3.:toast
YGWHI
11-11-2016, 11:14 PM
27/14/9 in 35 minutes :wow
Russ 27 points in 25 shots. This troll 'Russ is amazing...!!!!!'
Kawhi 34 points in 26 shots. This troll 'Stop shooting!!! But, but...26 shots is too much!!!'
:lmao
Ice009
11-11-2016, 11:19 PM
Russ 27 points in 25 shots. This troll 'Russ is amazing...!!!!!'
Kawhi 34 points in 26 shots. This troll 'Stop shooting!!! But, but...26 shots is too much!!!'
:lmao
lol. He truly is a twat. I never gave a shit about anything he said. If he's a fan of Cam Newton, then that's all I needed to know.
YGWHI
11-11-2016, 11:28 PM
lol. He truly is a twat. I never gave a shit about anything he said. If he's a fan of Cam Newton, then that's all I needed to know.
:lol :tu
SuperCam
11-18-2016, 05:36 PM
#4 in win shares
#1 in BPM
#1 in OBPM
#1 in Value over Replacement
0.5 assists away from averaging a triple double :wow
:worthy: MVPBrook :worthy:
Cry Havoc
11-18-2016, 05:42 PM
#4 in win shares
#1 in BPM
#1 in OBPM
#1 in Value over Replacement
0.5 assists away from averaging a triple double :wow
:worthy: MVPBrook :worthy:
And on pace to completely shatter the record for usage rate and turnovers in a season, by several statistical deviations.
Also on pace to be the worst 3 point shooter in NBA history with >2.49 attempts per game.
:lol Still a terrible defender
:lol Still takes the worst shots in the league
:lol #19th in win shares/48.
JohnnyMax
11-24-2016, 04:37 PM
Thunder started 6-1 now 8-8
dabom
11-24-2016, 04:45 PM
Thunder started 6-1 now 8-8
http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=422037
:lol
Hoops Czar
11-24-2016, 05:01 PM
Odd, no games today. I thought someone bumped this thread to tell everyone how Russell Westbrook gave his turkey dinner to the poor.
Kawhitstorm
11-25-2016, 12:18 PM
Thunder started 6-1 now 8-8
Started from the top now.............:cry:cry:cry:cry
DPG21920
11-25-2016, 12:57 PM
I've watched pretty much every OKC game this year (because I love watching WB play most of the time).
But as dominant as he can be at times, I do get the sense he's hurting the team overall. Dipo is very up & down next to him. Despite shipping out Ibaka, their bigs look like they don't know where they fit.
Their defense has been very up and down and a lot of that is Russ's gambling comprimises their integrity much of the time. He's playing box score basketball vs disciplined basketball and they have a coach that is seemingly afraid to do anything about it.
I mean, OKC is obviously nothing special talent wise without KD, but this Kobe style of play does not seem to be helping.
BatManu20
11-25-2016, 01:12 PM
He aight
Cry Havoc
11-25-2016, 03:38 PM
https://streamable.com/2n8d
Dat All-NBA Defense by Westbrook. No Lakers player within 15 feet of him on the most important play of the game. :lmao
HarlemHeat37
11-25-2016, 03:52 PM
Westbrook's on/off numbers are Godly, tbh..he hasn't played defense in years, but anybody that watches the NBA already knows that..
His supporting cast is absolutely terrible, outside of a few average players(Adams, Oladipo)..they should get rid of Adams while his value is still high, in favor of a real rim protector, preferably Black..
timtonymanu
11-25-2016, 03:53 PM
Still can't get over how OKC let a potential dynasty fall flat just a couple of months after they made the finals.
dabom
11-25-2016, 03:54 PM
They could have dropped Perkins for a Dynasty, bigger than this warriors team. :lmao
SuperCam
11-25-2016, 04:02 PM
https://streamable.com/2n8d
Dat All-NBA Defense by Westbrook. No Lakers player within 15 feet of him on the most important play of the game. :lmao
'cept for LeKing there ain't a got damn player in this league right now who could play 40+ minutes a night on both ends of the floor with the required intensity to be elite, tbh. Even Kiwi goes asthmatic when he was to chase shooters through screens in the playoffs for extended periods :wakeup
Cry Havoc
11-25-2016, 07:56 PM
Westbrook's on/off numbers are Godly, tbh..he hasn't played defense in years, but anybody that watches the NBA already knows that..
His supporting cast is absolutely terrible, outside of a few average players(Adams, Oladipo)..they should get rid of Adams while his value is still high, in favor of a real rim protector, preferably Black..
And when it wasn't, he still played no D and took terrible shots. He's a cancer.
Said it a thousand times, Westbrook just doesn't get it and never ever will.
Cry Havoc
11-25-2016, 08:03 PM
'cept for LeKing there ain't a got damn player in this league right now who could play 40+ minutes a night on both ends of the floor with the required intensity to be elite, tbh. Even Kiwi goes asthmatic when he was to chase shooters through screens in the playoffs for extended periods :wakeup
Westbrook is the worst shooter in NBA history from 3 point range with >2.5 attempts per game. He's fucking awful. He has all the talent and athleticism in the world and refuses to be anything other than a me-first stat chaser.
elemento
11-25-2016, 08:10 PM
Still can't get over how OKC let a potential dynasty fall flat just a couple of months after they made the finals.
Cry Havoc
11-25-2016, 08:15 PM
Still can't get over how OKC let a potential dynasty fall flat just a couple of months after they made the finals.
It's almost like there was someone on the team that no one wanted to really play with.
HarlemHeat37
11-26-2016, 12:01 AM
36-18-12 on the road in a W :wow:wow
dabom
11-26-2016, 12:02 AM
36-18-12 on the road in a W :wow:wow
I'd be happy with Porker getting any one of those stat lines. :lol
HarlemHeat37
11-26-2016, 12:49 AM
First player in modern NBA history to post those numbers:wow
Kawhitstorm
11-26-2016, 12:51 AM
36-18-12 on the road in a W :wow:wow
Mike Malone benched Mudiay who was locking him up & had Nelson trying to guard him in the 4th quarter.:lol
Kawhitstorm
11-26-2016, 12:54 AM
First player in modern NBA history to post those numbers:wow
He didn't make a shot in OT & was stat padding by getting intentionally fouled after chasing rebounds.:lol
DPG21920
11-26-2016, 11:30 AM
He's putting up sick numbers with an absolutely mind blowing usage rate. But his team continues to struggle vs even mediocre teams. It's taking Herculean efforts just to get wins vs average teams.
He's fun to watch (at least to me) because he always plays full speed, but I personally am surprised that OKC is so mediocre with a player as good as Russ at the helm.
He didn't make a shot in OT & was stat padding by getting intentionally fouled after chasing rebounds.:lol
Yep, just a stat chaser who doesn't care about winning. Theres a reason that even with his great "stats" that the teams record isn't good.
houston spurs fan
11-26-2016, 11:56 AM
Meh, watered down NBA...
BatManu20
11-26-2016, 10:28 PM
He's played 5 less seasons than Lebron :wow
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Kawhitstorm
11-26-2016, 10:34 PM
He's played 5 less seasons than Lebron :wow
Rondo had 28 in his first 7 seasons & Grant Hill had 29 in his first 5 seasons.:wakeup
Cry Havoc
11-26-2016, 10:47 PM
36-18-12 on the road in a W :wow:wow
Let me know how many rings all them stats get him.
daslicer
11-26-2016, 11:19 PM
He's Baron Davis on steroids. His ceiling for success is getting out of the first round.
DPG21920
11-27-2016, 01:24 AM
It's hard to knock Russ tbh.. I mean, he plays hard even if he has flaws. He is ridiculously good and having to carry a major load on a team that just lost a top 3 player.
AaronY
11-28-2016, 09:24 PM
Dudes a balla..don't think you guys realize how hard it is to do what he's doin..
Yuixafun
11-28-2016, 10:01 PM
He just got another TD... 27 pts 18 rebs 14 assists... wtf yw
HarlemHeat37
11-28-2016, 10:48 PM
If he even survives the season, they should change the logo, tbh..
Ice009
11-28-2016, 11:11 PM
I'm not a huge fan of his, I tried watching the Thunder's first 6 games or so and I was thinking to myself, wow, he's playing fantastic - why do people keep ragging on him. Then after that great start I watched a game or two more and he started turning the ball over, shooting bad shots, and I just couldn't watch it anymore. That stretch coincided with them losing a bunch of games.
I know he needs to do everything for them to win, but I really think even if they do lose or are trailing in a game, he doesn't have to jack up that many shots or try and force the issue so much, as at times he can end up with tons of turnovers from forcing the issue. If he could just cut a lot of those turnovers out of his game and try not to take so many bad shots, he'd be absolutely amazing. I also still wonder how he'd go without his athleticism? Do you guys think he'd still be a serviceable player without it?
What he is doing is really, really hard to do. The posters that are saying that are correct. Do not think that it's easy. Even if you get the full green light from your coach and team to take as many shots as you want while having the ball in your hands most of the time, it doesn't mean you can do what Russ is doing. Not many players can do this at all.
spurraider21
11-28-2016, 11:16 PM
If he even survives the season, they should change the logo, tbh..
https://i.gyazo.com/05fb760ab9cf6cca5ba919b8d7428b22.png
HarlemHeat37
11-28-2016, 11:21 PM
http://media.gq.com/photos/57473a80ab47ce87602863bc/master/pass/image4.jpeg
SuperCam
11-28-2016, 11:27 PM
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No one has ever done what this alpha nig is doing now :wow
SuperCam
11-28-2016, 11:30 PM
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Give me the award now, tbh :lol
DPG21920
11-28-2016, 11:49 PM
Well, winning matters in this award, so that may end up hurting Russ even with a triple double. Especially if they barely make the playoffs.
He will be in the top 3 for MVP for sure but winning it when Lebron is almost averaging a triple double (that no one is even talking about that blows my mind) while winning a lot and proving to everyone in the finals how much better he is than everyone will be tough.
DPG21920
11-29-2016, 12:02 AM
Seriously - not to derail this thread, but what Lebron is doing is unbelievable.
Russ is averaging: 31/11/10 on 43% FG (with 5 TO)
Lebron is averaging: 24/8/10 on 50% FG (with 3.6 TO)
I mean, :lol to almost average a triple double on 50% FG is incredible while also limiting TO's reasonably well. Also doing it while only having a usage rate of 28% vs 40% for Russ.
That is not to detract from Russ, but the fact no one is talking about Lebron is crazy especially after what he proved (for like the millionth time) in the finals last year.
skin27
11-29-2016, 12:15 AM
He needs to carry the thunder to atleast 3rd seed or 4th seed in the west to win the MVP..its not all about stats, your team should be winning games also..
NameLess Scrub
11-29-2016, 08:49 AM
Translation: I have to be the leader of the team and will never learn to defer to teammates unless I'm in the limelight. I value that more than playing as a team and winning.
What's the point of that quote, tbh? Anybody would rather have wins and dignity than loses and cowardliness.
NameLess Scrub
11-29-2016, 09:00 AM
Seriously - not to derail this thread, but what Lebron is doing is unbelievable.
Russ is averaging: 31/11/10 on 43% FG (with 5 TO)
Lebron is averaging: 24/8/10 on 50% FG (with 3.6 TO)
I mean, :lol to almost average a triple double on 50% FG is incredible while also limiting TO's reasonably well. Also doing it while only having a usage rate of 28% vs 40% for Russ.
That is not to detract from Russ, but the fact no one is talking about Lebron is crazy especially after what he proved (for like the millionth time) in the finals last year.
While Lebron has benefited a lot from stacking the odds in his favor by having superstars as sidekicks, that doesn't take away from the fact he has proven his stats can make his team better and get them wins in a consistent way.
I think Westbrook is an incredible, probably all-time athletic talent, but he hasn't proven his numbers benefit the team as much as they should, specially if he has help. Shooting more than the best scorer in the game doesn't help his case.
What he's doing is fun though. No argument there.
I wonder what would have happened if OKC had decided to go with Harden instead of WB.
Cry Havoc
11-29-2016, 11:50 AM
What's the point of that quote, tbh? Anybody would rather have wins and dignity than loses and cowardliness.
I'm saying he would rather lose as a leader than win as a co-captain or 2nd best player. He's happier on a team that goes 41-41 with his stats on fire than winning 60 games and gunning for a title but people arguing whether he or Durant is the best player on the team and his stats reflecting a somewhat reduced role (but still being in the top 10 in usage %).
Cry Havoc
11-29-2016, 11:59 AM
While Lebron has benefited a lot from stacking the odds in his favor by having superstars as sidekicks, that doesn't take away from the fact he has proven his stats can make his team better and get them wins in a consistent way.
I think Westbrook is an incredible, probably all-time athletic talent, but he hasn't proven his numbers benefit the team as much as they should, specially if he has help. Shooting more than the best scorer in the game doesn't help his case.
What he's doing is fun though. No argument there.
I wonder what would have happened if OKC had decided to go with Harden instead of WB.
Westbrook is the worst 3 point shooter of all-time among players who average more than 2.5 attempts per game. It's astounding. EVERY 3 Westbrook takes with more than 6 seconds left on the shot clock is a bad one, unless he's wide open. And even then, it's still bad.
Jordan wasn't a great 3 point shooter, and therefore he didn't take a lot of 3s. Didn't feel the need when he could get inside and get fouled or take it to the hoop.
Now, in fairness, Jordan and LeBron were both >= 6'6", so they were able to do some things that Russ's size prevents him from doing.
But at the stage Russ is in, the truly great players find a way to evolve and develop weak areas of their game.
Russ's weak areas are effort on D and shooting. And he hasn't done a damn thing to address either one. His teams are always defensive liabilities especially when they don't have a shot blocker on the court playing behind RW. And he will frequently shoot his team out of a game per playoff series, which is just ridiculous.
HarlemHeat37
11-29-2016, 01:10 PM
Some of these arguments are strange, considering Westbrook was unarguably OKC's best player during their past 2 conference finals runs:lol
He has had playoff success, he isn't Demarcus Cousins..
DPG21920
11-29-2016, 01:24 PM
Some of these arguments are strange, considering Westbrook was unarguably OKC's best player during their past 2 conference finals runs:lol
He has had playoff success, he isn't Demarcus Cousins..
Very true, but to be fair OKC has been MEGA-Stacked for a while. It's really actually crazy how they dismantled one of the best possible super teams of all time :lmao
HarlemHeat37
11-29-2016, 01:28 PM
And for the record, as you can see throughout the thread, I don't believe you can win a title with Westbrook as your best player..doesn't alter the impact of his accomplishments, though, and that he's the modern day Bo Jackson, physically(he also didn't run to a 73-win team like a pussy, too:lol)
Cry Havoc
11-29-2016, 02:10 PM
Some of these arguments are strange, considering Westbrook was unarguably OKC's best player during their past 2 conference finals runs:lol
Yes, and what happened? His best teammate left because he couldn't tolerate Russ.
He has had playoff success, he isn't Demarcus Cousins..
One conference championship is "playoff success" with "two top 5 players"? Oooookay. I guess the fact that DMC has never had a player even 1/10th the caliber of teammate that KD is has nothing to do with that.
SASdynasty!
11-29-2016, 02:32 PM
https://streamable.com/2n8d
Dat All-NBA Defense by Westbrook. No Lakers player within 15 feet of him on the most important play of the game. :lmao
Lol, reminds me of his "defense" on Parker's game-winner.
https://youtu.be/F6V__yr_cXo
NameLess Scrub
11-29-2016, 02:56 PM
I'm saying he would rather lose as a leader than win as a co-captain or 2nd best player. He's happier on a team that goes 41-41 with his stats on fire than winning 60 games and gunning for a title but people arguing whether he or Durant is the best player on the team and his stats reflecting a somewhat reduced role (but still being in the top 10 in usage %).
I agree. Just thought the quote itself didn't make much sense.
HarlemHeat37
12-01-2016, 12:10 AM
Another triple-double in a comeback W:wow:wow
Also put up 35 shot attempts, which is very impressive, regardless of efficiency..as Phil Jackson has said, people don't realize how much energy it takes to attempt that many shots, tbh..
SuperCam
12-05-2016, 09:47 PM
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:wow
:worthy: BrookVP :worthy:
Kawhitstorm
12-05-2016, 10:00 PM
If he even survives the season, they should change the logo, tbh..
https://mobileimages.lowes.com/product/converted/693092/693092000005.jpg
Spurs9
12-06-2016, 05:54 PM
https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/hphotos-xaf1/t51.2885-15/e35/1169711_655928801177419_445691412_n.jpg
Ice009
12-06-2016, 10:20 PM
Just had a look at his shooting percentage in some of those triple doubles and I'm shocked at how bad he's shooting, especially the 3 ball. He shouldn't be shooting 3s at all.
spursistan
12-07-2016, 01:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEOwaBw7aMo&feature=youtu.be
NameLess Scrub
12-07-2016, 02:01 PM
Another triple-double in a comeback W:wow:wow
Also put up 35 shot attempts, which is very impressive, regardless of efficiency..as Phil Jackson has said, people don't realize how much energy it takes to attempt that many shots, tbh..
It would also be exhausting if he piggybacked Steven Adams the whole game.
Hoops Czar
12-07-2016, 02:42 PM
Russell Westbrook's to do list....
1.) notch triple double
2.) Bring wallet to tip official scorers
2.) Look stylish in front of the cameras
3.) Pose for selfies
4.) Win game if time permits
SuperCam
12-09-2016, 10:28 PM
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:wow:wow:wow
Clipper Nation
12-09-2016, 10:35 PM
Don't insult Westbrook by comparing him to that cancerous chucker.
Clipper Nation
12-09-2016, 10:38 PM
It will take more than a quarter-season of historic production for Mark Cuban to admit that Russell Westbrook has proved him wrong.
Cuban, the outspoken Dallas Mavericks owner who declared during last season's playoffs that Westbrook wasn't a superstar, isn't convinced by the Oklahoma City Thunder point guard being on pace to be the first player to average a triple-double since Oscar Robertson in 1962-63.
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/18246308/mark-cuban-says-russell-westbrook-superstar-thunder-win
:lmao Cuban
:lmao Stupid, salty faggot
unleashbaynes
12-09-2016, 10:42 PM
I'm starting to think that he shouldn't have let Tyson Chandler walk after the 2011 championship run, tbh.
Hoops Czar
12-09-2016, 10:48 PM
Don't insult Westbrook by comparing him to that cancerous chucker.
That air ball three to end the game was Kobe-esque.
Some of Russell's shots are insulting to his teammates. But they have to act like they like it.
An occasional stupid shot you can live with, but this dude just throws up garbage over and over while everyone else is standing around.
Splits
12-10-2016, 12:50 AM
:lol same number of turnovers as FGM
SASdynasty!
12-10-2016, 08:25 AM
He's putting up sick numbers with an absolutely mind blowing usage rate. But his team continues to struggle vs even mediocre teams. It's taking Herculean efforts just to get wins vs average teams.
He's fun to watch (at least to me) because he always plays full speed, but I personally am surprised that OKC is so mediocre with a player as good as Russ at the helm.
When you're shouting that much and that badly while turning it over 6 times a game (that's hard to fathom), it would be really hard to get wins no matter who you're supporting cast was. If I was coaching, I'd honestly want him dropping 40 on his bad shooting.
Raven
12-10-2016, 09:28 AM
It's hard to knock Russ tbh.. I mean, he plays hard even if he has flaws. He is ridiculously good and having to carry a major load on a team that just lost a top 3 player.
yup.
Spurs9
12-10-2016, 11:28 AM
Some of Russell's shots are insulting to his teammates. But they have to act like they like it.
An occasional stupid shot you can live with, but this dude just throws up garbage over and over while everyone else is standing around.
Westbrook this year reminds me of Kobe on the Lakers last year, its all about him. :cry KD left me, I have to prove to everyone I wasn't the problem :cry
Alot of dudes could probably average a triple double if that is actually their concern. How often do you think Westbrook is keeping track of stats during the game, and knowing how many more in each category he needs. He usually will go up to 10 rebounds or assists and then focus on another category padding before the game is done.
Clipper Nation
12-10-2016, 12:49 PM
Where were all the Porker stans' complaints about stat-padding when Rique was chucking up as many shots as prime Duncan against the Mavs in '06? He choked that series away because making his stats look good was more important to him than winning. Put Westbrook on the '06 Spurs instead of Porker and they ring easily.
Ice009
12-10-2016, 06:35 PM
When you're shouting that much and that badly while turning it over 6 times a game (that's hard to fathom), it would be really hard to get wins no matter who you're supporting cast was. If I was coaching, I'd honestly want him dropping 40 on his bad shooting.
Yep, my thoughts exactly. I want him taking more low percentage shots. He can have 40 if he wants on a piss poor percentage. You're not going to win anything like that.
SuperCam
12-12-2016, 01:05 PM
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:wow No on has ever done what he's doing :wow
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Leader on the floor, tbh. Teammates would run through brick wall for him, unlike durbeta...
NameLess Scrub
12-12-2016, 01:22 PM
Would WB pass it to Kawhi if he was a Spur?
TheMulletMan3000
12-12-2016, 03:14 PM
Would WB pass it to Kawhi if he was a Spur?
Of course, that way he can pad his assists
NameLess Scrub
12-12-2016, 03:21 PM
Of course, that way he can pad his assists
:lol
What if he already got 10 on the night?
TheMulletMan3000
12-12-2016, 03:32 PM
then he would pass to whoever is throwing bricks in that game and run to the basket to get his OREB
Cry Havoc
12-12-2016, 07:33 PM
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:wow No on has ever done what he's doing :wow
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Leader on the floor, tbh. Teammates would run through brick wall for him, unlike durbeta...
:lmao
"I don't care about numbers. That's why I chase a triple double every game harder than any player in the modern era."
So fucking obvious that he statpads, then lies about it. Cancer from Day 1.
vander
12-12-2016, 08:26 PM
kinda feel bad for the guy. he had to play with that severely weak-minded Durant, who was supposedly an elite player.
seriously, if GS wins the title this year, what a joke the NBA is
Clipper Nation
12-12-2016, 08:31 PM
:lmao"I don't care about numbers. That's why I chase a triple double every game harder than any player in the modern era."So fucking obvious that he statpads, then lies about it. Cancer from Day 1.I know, right. He should be saying things like "we are no longer contenders" and "I can't believe they're leaving [teammate] wide open!" instead like non-cancerous point guards do.
Cry Havoc
12-12-2016, 09:04 PM
I know, right. He should be saying things like "we are no longer contenders" and "I can't believe they're leaving [teammate] wide open!" instead like non-cancerous point guards do.
He should get a ring. Like non-cancerous point guards do.
But you know, he's so good that I guess having a top 20 guy and a top 5 guy on his team just isn't enough for him. And sure, they both left him to go sign somewhere else. But he's definitely not a cancer.
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Yep, just the sign of a mature, well-adjusted, non-cancerous individual. Throwing a tantrum at a teammate when you're up ~20 in a regular season game.
Basically what I'm saying is, is you're right. He's totally not a cancer. :lol
Clipper Nation
12-12-2016, 09:06 PM
He should get a ring. Like non-cancerous point guards do.
He'd have at least one by now if Durbeta wasn't such a choking pussy.
Cry Havoc
12-12-2016, 09:11 PM
He'd have at least one by now if Durbeta wasn't such a choking pussy.
Blaming failures on teammates. Such a sign of a winner. :lol
Clipper Nation
12-12-2016, 09:13 PM
Blaming failures on teammates. Such a sign of a winner. :lol
It's the truth. Durbeta is a mentally weak choking bitch. That's why he turned and ran to GSW to try to get an easy role player ring.
Cry Havoc
12-12-2016, 11:36 PM
It's the truth. Durbeta is a mentally weak choking bitch. That's why he turned and ran to GSW to try to get an easy role player ring.
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I don't even need to argue with you.
Kawhitstorm
12-13-2016, 02:28 AM
Would WB pass it to Kawhi if he was a Spur?
As if Porker passes the ball to Kawhi.:lmao
Kawhitstorm
12-13-2016, 02:31 AM
It's the truth. Durbeta is a mentally weak choking bitch. That's why he turned and ran to GSW to try to get an easy role player ring.
Dominos/Choke-P3 would have been the new Stockton/Malone.:lol
Kawhitstorm
12-13-2016, 02:34 AM
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http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2014/01/dr-evil-crying1.gif
NameLess Scrub
12-13-2016, 08:07 AM
As if Porker passes the ball to Kawhi.:lmao
:lol But that exactly the point.
If the bigger Kawhi fans here complain about Parker not passing to Kawhi, what could be expected from WB?
He liked to take more shots than the best scorer in the game.
cutewizard
12-13-2016, 08:45 AM
Wanna win a title, come to the Spurs Wes.....
Cry Havoc
12-13-2016, 11:40 AM
Wanna win a title, come to the Spurs Wes.....
Fuck no. Not now, not ever. Pop would kill that dude and ship him out for Bonner 3.0 the first time he threw up a halfcourt shot with >8 seconds left on the shot clock.
Clipper Nation
12-13-2016, 11:42 AM
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I don't even need to argue with you.
That's all? Porker is statistically the second-biggest choke artist in playoff history, behind only Karl Malone, and you think he's better than Westbrook.
Clipper Nation
12-13-2016, 11:44 AM
Fuck no. Not now, not ever. Pop would kill that dude and ship him out for Bonner 3.0 the first time he threw up a halfcourt shot with >8 seconds left on the shot clock.
Pop has continued to start Porker even though Porker gets fucked and jizzed on by the Langston Galloways, Ray McCallums and Austin Rivers of the league on a regular basis and has historically been outplayed by his own backups when it matters most.
But you're right that Pop would never want Westbrook. He's racist against outspoken black Americans. Russ doesn't fit with his plantation mentality.
Cry Havoc
12-13-2016, 12:18 PM
That's all? Porker is statistically the second-biggest choke artist in playoff history, behind only Karl Malone, and you think he's better than Westbrook.
Oh look, CN is trying to make hyperbolic statements again with no statistical evidence to back them up.
4 rings and a Finals MVP and you're saying Parker chokes more than Russ, who will never win a ring for his entire career. :lol Fucking hilarious.
Cry Havoc
12-13-2016, 12:19 PM
Pop has continued to start Porker even though Porker gets fucked and jizzed on by the Langston Galloways, Ray McCallums and Austin Rivers of the league on a regular basis and has historically been outplayed by his own backups when it matters most.
But you're right that Pop would never want Westbrook. He's racist against outspoken black Americans. Russ doesn't fit with his plantation mentality.
Lol. What's the matter, you're so unoriginal and needy that you have to parrot Harlem's schtick to feel good about yourself as a poster? Jesus dude, get a grip.
Clipper Nation
12-13-2016, 01:04 PM
Oh look, CN is trying to make hyperbolic statements again with no statistical evidence to back them up.
4 rings and a Finals MVP and you're saying Parker chokes more than Russ, who will never win a ring for his entire career. :lol Fucking hilarious.
http://s5.postimg.org/rcwjg880n/RS_PO_BPM_differentials_worst.png
Clipper Nation
12-13-2016, 01:08 PM
Lol. What's the matter, you're so unoriginal and needy that you have to parrot Harlem's schtick to feel good about yourself as a poster? Jesus dude, get a grip.
It's not a "Harlem schtick," it's reality - as exposed by a former Spurs player (Stephen Jackson).
Kawhitstorm
12-13-2016, 02:54 PM
:lol But that exactly the point.
If the bigger Kawhi fans here complain about Parker not passing to Kawhi, what could be expected from WB?
He liked to take more shots than the best scorer in the game.
WestBrick will have his ball-hogging tenancy out of his system after he averages a triple-double & get bounced in the 1st rd.:lol Kyrie was a ball-hog until LeBron arrived.
NameLess Scrub
12-13-2016, 03:58 PM
WestBrick will have his ball-hogging tenancy out of his system after he averages a triple-double & get bounced in the 1st rd.:lol Kyrie was a ball-hog until LeBron arrived.
I hope he doesn't,.. unless he actually went to the Spurs :lol
SuperCam
12-17-2016, 10:03 AM
http://www.nba.com/mvp-ladder
#2 and will be #1 after Choke City falls off, tbh.
Only the top 4 have a real chance.
Westbrook is tired of talking about triple-doubles after piling up seven straight and then going three straight games without reaching that standard. He’s not obsessing over the numbers. His focus, and rightfully so, is on the Thunder’s bottom line (28.6 points, 9.4 rebounds, 7.8 assists, 1.4 steals in his last five games).
:wow:wow:wow
http://www.nba.com/mvp-ladder
#2 and will be #1 after Choke City falls off, tbh.
Only the top 4 have a real chance.
:wow:wow:wow
Just like a CamFan to be more worried about individual awards than winning a championship. Meanwhile, the way Houston is playing right now, they could knock off any team in the league in a 7-game series.
lefty
12-17-2016, 08:19 PM
Damn
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/810280139078725632
Mr. Body
12-17-2016, 10:26 PM
http://s5.postimg.org/rcwjg880n/RS_PO_BPM_differentials_worst.png
There are some incredible players on that list plus many with multiple rings. I don't think it says much other than players who logged tons of playoff minutes.
lefty
12-17-2016, 10:44 PM
Damn
https://twitter.com/NBA/status/810280139078725632
26 pts , 11 rbds and 22 assists tonight
Quadzilla99
12-19-2016, 04:46 AM
Good Lord
Osxe1GW8AKw
r0drig0lac
12-19-2016, 12:52 PM
Good Lord
Osxe1GW8AKw
damn
AaronY
12-19-2016, 01:40 PM
Good Lord
Osxe1GW8AKw
Jesus Christ almighty
HarlemHeat37
12-19-2016, 01:55 PM
Most players would have chosen to finish the play themselves, but Russ wanted to have a teammate involved in the moment, tbh..typical of him..
Also great to hear him discuss the lack of importance of triple doubles and the media's insistence on forcing them to be the primary discussion point for the Thunder..great example for young players..other than Kawhi, he's probably the most humble superstar in the NBA, tbh..
Brazil
12-19-2016, 03:31 PM
Good Lord
Osxe1GW8AKw
wow great stuff
Brazil
12-19-2016, 03:32 PM
Most players would have chosen to finish the play themselves, but Russ wanted to have a teammate involved in the moment, tbh..typical of him..
Also great to hear him discuss the lack of importance of triple doubles and the media's insistence on forcing them to be the primary discussion point for the Thunder..great example for young players..other than Kawhi, he's probably the most humble superstar in the NBA, tbh..
:lol tbh...
lefty
12-19-2016, 03:33 PM
Most players would have chosen to finish the play themselves, but Russ wanted to have a teammate involved in the moment, tbh..typical of him..
Also great to hear him discuss the lack of importance of triple doubles and the media's insistence on forcing them to be the primary discussion point for the Thunder..great example for young players..other than Kawhi, he's probably the most humble superstar in the NBA, tbh..
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I agree tbh
AaronY
12-19-2016, 05:18 PM
Best part is how he passes the ball before the big man even jumps almost..
spursistan
12-24-2016, 12:54 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C0aqGY2VIAAjkRr.jpg
Daaaaaaaaaaam 45-11-11!
Kawhitstorm
12-24-2016, 01:10 AM
Most players would have chosen to finish the play themselves, but Russ wanted to have a teammate involved in the moment, tbh..typical of him..
Also great to hear him discuss the lack of importance of triple doubles and the media's insistence on forcing them to be the primary discussion point for the Thunder..great example for young players..other than Kawhi, he's probably the most humble superstar in the NBA, tbh..
They're both laid back SoCal cats who aren't enamored w/ the Hollywood lifestyle thus don't mind playing in two of the smallest markets in the league. It's just that Kawhi is an introvert & WestBrick is an extrovert.
HarlemHeat37
12-24-2016, 01:13 AM
Tommy Heinsohn was gushing all over Russ tonight, rather than complaining about the officiating..speaks volumes, tbh:lol
Kawhitstorm
12-24-2016, 01:24 AM
Tommy Heinsohn was gushing all over Russ tonight, rather than complaining about the officiating..speaks volumes, tbh:lol
Probably because Russ plays 80s ball like baby Jordan/Nique who destroyed the Celtics.:lol
NASpurs
12-29-2016, 08:42 PM
This nigga just had a 6 TO and 0 assists first quarter :lol
apalisoc_9
12-29-2016, 08:47 PM
I enjoy watching Westbrook..All cause I know a good percentage of white people "hate" his celebratory attitiude while ignoring Curry the lightskinned celebratory attitude too..
:lmao
Cry Havoc
12-30-2016, 02:14 AM
This nigga just had a 6 TO and 0 assists first quarter :lol
And got tossed because he's still a child who can't handle it.
Kawhitstorm
01-04-2017, 11:25 PM
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And got tossed because he's still a child who can't handle it.
That's supposed to be an automatic suspension for one game, in addition to getting kicked from this one. I remember the time Duncan gently moved a ref who had stupidly gotten himself into the middle of play. He got tossed, and I'm about 99% sure he got a 1 game vacation in addition. It will be interesting to see how Silver handles it with Westbrook.
Cry Havoc
01-05-2017, 02:50 AM
That's supposed to be an automatic suspension for one game, in addition to getting kicked from this one. I remember the time Duncan gently moved a ref who had stupidly gotten himself into the middle of play. He got tossed, and I'm about 99% sure he got a 1 game vacation in addition. It will be interesting to see how Silver handles it with Westbrook.
Just him being a massive douchenozzle. No surprise here.
Quadzilla99
01-05-2017, 06:12 AM
Just him being a massive douchenozzle. No surprise here.
Just you waiting for anything negative so you can confirm your biases. No surprise here.
SASdynasty!
01-05-2017, 08:03 AM
The good news is Westbrook is up to 42% shooting and down to 5 turnovers a game. At least he won't break the record for most turnovers by as high a margin.
Cry Havoc
01-05-2017, 12:26 PM
Just you waiting for anything negative so you can confirm your biases. No surprise here.
:lol
So let's be clear. I wait for Westbrook to do stupid, inane shit.... which then he repeatedly does said stupid, inane shit, and it's just me having a confirmation bias?
"That guy isn't an arsonist, you're just waiting for him to set another house on fire! Which of course he's going to do if you wait around a week or so. But that doesn't make him an arsonist!"
Your logic is awesome. :lol
spursistan
01-05-2017, 05:19 PM
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Starting to fizzle? ..only win was against the depleted Clippers with this coming tough schedule.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C1bdFrVVIAEwp1e.jpg
Spurious
01-05-2017, 06:31 PM
I enjoy watching Westbrook..All cause I know a good percentage of white people "hate" his celebratory attitiude while ignoring Curry the lightskinned celebratory attitude too..
:lmao
To be fair about it, I dislike the antics of both players. That's to take nothing away from their skills or achievements...but I don't care for all the histrionics. Yeah, get off my lawn.
skulls138
01-05-2017, 06:46 PM
To be fair about it, I dislike the antics of both players. That's to take nothing away from their skills or achievements...but I don't care for all the histrionics. Yeah, get off my lawn.Oh my God stop quoting this dimwit! I can only ignore HIS posts but I can see them if you quote them!
BillMc
01-05-2017, 06:56 PM
I enjoy watching Westbrook..All cause I know a good percentage of white people "hate" his celebratory attitiude while ignoring Curry the lightskinned celebratory attitude too..
:lmao
I'm pretty sure Harlem has corned the market on race-baiting in this site. Though about 70% chance you're the same person. :lol
dabom
01-05-2017, 06:59 PM
I'm pretty sure Harlem has corned the market on race-baiting in this site. Though about 70% chance you're the same person. :lol
Come on Bill. They aren't the same person. :lol
BillMc
01-05-2017, 07:06 PM
Come on Bill. They aren't the same person. :lol
You never know. :lol I've heard that you're Apa9 as well.
No, idea who is who. It's like one of those damn masquerade balls around here. :lol
dabom
01-05-2017, 07:11 PM
You never know. :lol I've heard that you're Apa9 as well.
No, idea who is who. It's like one of those damn masquerade balls around here. :lol
I've posted warrior at spurs game Tim Duncan and media pictures here. :lol
dabom
01-05-2017, 07:12 PM
No where else on the internet Bill. I'm from SA. :lol
BillMc
01-05-2017, 07:16 PM
No where else on the internet Bill. I'm from SA. :lol
Ok. :toast And I've never even been to SA...:lol
dabom
01-05-2017, 07:18 PM
Ok. :toast And I've never even been to SA...:lol
No one is questioning your identity though Bill. You good. :lol
BillMc
01-05-2017, 07:22 PM
No one is questioning your identity though Bill. You good. :lol
Oh, living 12 years in Eastern Europe, I've had my identity questioned a lot of time, bro. :lol
skulls138
01-05-2017, 07:34 PM
Probably because Russ plays 80s ball like baby Jordan/Nique who destroyed the Celtics.:lolNice try rewriting history but Im pretty sure the Celtics had a big hand in keeping Jordan ringless while Bird was playing and well...Nique didnt ring, so...what are you talking about?
Kawhitstorm
01-05-2017, 07:49 PM
Nice try rewriting history but Im pretty sure the Celtics had a big hand in keeping Jordan ringless while Bird was playing and well...Nique didnt ring, so...what are you talking about?
Old school cats admire players who go down fighting instead of surrendering & that was exactly what Nique did in '88.:wakeup
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skulls138
01-05-2017, 09:39 PM
Old school cats admire players who go down fighting instead of surrendering & that was exactly what Nique did in '88.:wakeup
6jLv0gUZ83c :tu
Mr. Body
01-05-2017, 10:27 PM
Such a shitty player in the clutch.
Kawhitstorm
01-05-2017, 11:13 PM
Such a shitty player in the clutch.
He plays too fast to begin with but then he goes into turbo chuck mode in crunch time.:lol
Splits
01-13-2017, 10:32 PM
:lmao
quadruple double tonight
7/23 FG
1/10 3pt
10 turnovers
:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao
lefty
01-13-2017, 11:05 PM
Still better than Porker tbh
J_Paco
01-13-2017, 11:57 PM
:lmao
quadruple double tonight
7/23 FG
1/10 3pt
10 turnovers
:lmao
:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao :lmao
But, but, all those great (empty) stats prove he "duh best ever."
HarlemHeat37
03-01-2017, 04:52 PM
<3
http://ll-media.tmz.com/2017/03/01/0301-russell-westbrook-pregnant-instagram-1.jpg
HarlemHeat37
03-09-2017, 10:21 PM
So good, tbh..if only he was a Spur:(
Floyd Pacquiao
03-09-2017, 10:24 PM
His wife is horrendous. Jesus
SuperCam
03-09-2017, 10:26 PM
MVP
HarlemHeat37
03-09-2017, 10:27 PM
Some idiot on this forum(don't remember the poster) was quoting me and laughing because I said OKC would be a tougher matchup for the Spurs than Denver, the other day:lol I thought it was a pretty obvious statement, but some posters are just silly..
HarlemHeat37
03-09-2017, 10:59 PM
When Westbrook gets a triple double, OKC is 24-6..when he doesn't, they're 11-23.."stat padding" :lol
Ice009
03-10-2017, 03:14 AM
When Westbrook gets a triple double, OKC is 24-6..when he doesn't, they're 11-23.."stat padding" :lol
Well, shit, if I knew that stat, then maybe I would have laid off him. That's a huge turnaround for his team if he gets a triple double.
spurraider21
03-10-2017, 03:23 AM
When Westbrook gets a triple double, OKC is 24-6..when he doesn't, they're 11-23.."stat padding" :lolor you could just say in their losses he shoots under 40%... you can always pick out arbitrary stats from win/loss splits
NameLess Scrub
03-10-2017, 07:53 AM
or you could just say in their losses he shoots under 40%... you can always pick out arbitrary stats from win/loss splits
Seeing that he shot 33 and 17% 3p last night. Couldn't watch the game thanks to my cable company, but that sounds that tons and tons of compulsive chucking :lol
Yet they won.
HarlemHeat37
03-10-2017, 11:00 AM
or you could just say in their losses he shoots under 40%... you can always pick out arbitrary stats from win/loss splits
No, because the primary argument against Westbrook's MVP candidacy is that his triple doubles are generated by sacrificing wins, which is clearly false..
I agree with your point, but I didn't randomly choose an arbitrary measure for my argument..I'm directly arguing against the primary anti-Westbrook for MVP talking point..
HarlemHeat37
03-29-2017, 11:37 PM
His last 2 4th quarter performances have been indescribable, tbh:wow
DAF86
03-30-2017, 12:38 AM
With Kawhi pretty much out of the picture, I'm hoping Westbrook snatches the MVP from Harden, tbh.
Darius Bieber
03-30-2017, 12:52 AM
Must be nice to actually have a good PG.
r0drig0lac
03-30-2017, 08:12 AM
mvp and not even close
gambit1990
03-30-2017, 04:06 PM
:toast
gambit1990
04-09-2017, 06:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFdm592h-mc
http://i.imgur.com/lMEa58i.jpg
TampaDude
04-09-2017, 10:43 PM
Russell Westbrook is the MVP. MVP! Say it! SAY IT!!!!!
Cry Havoc
04-17-2017, 12:53 AM
:lmao
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:lmao
:lmao
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:lmao
Cry Havoc
04-17-2017, 12:54 AM
:toast
Lol at a "spurs" fan ejaculating to regular season games like they mean a fucking thing.
dabom
04-17-2017, 12:58 AM
:toast
Wow I remember. You called the triple double and MVP. Props dude. :tu
I don't think he deserves it, but you got it right.
SASdynasty!
04-17-2017, 06:30 AM
26% shooting and 9 turnovers, wow.
cutewizard
04-17-2017, 07:16 AM
John Wall is the best pure point guard in the NBA.
A Spurs vs Wizards NBA finals would be a welcome, refreshing site.
Im sure humans are tired of Westbrook, Curry and James.
hater
04-17-2017, 07:48 AM
:lmao chimpbroom sucks
Thats what happens when you lose a guy like Durant and are stuck with this monkeeballa
Cute regular season player
gambit1990
04-19-2017, 09:05 PM
Wow I remember. You called the triple double and MVP. Props dude. :tu
I don't think he deserves it, but you got it right.
i did call it. kawhi deserves MVP as much as anyone though. it is a regular season award... would much rather kawhi get that FMVP again :toast
DPG21920
04-19-2017, 09:15 PM
Russ has been a beast today. Great game for him. His bench has freaking let him down so bad today
gambit1990
04-19-2017, 09:19 PM
Russ has been a beast today. Great game for him. His bench has freaking let him down so bad today
WB doesn't have a bench.
WB doesn't have a bench.
That's it. McBuckets has 11 points in 13 minutes. Grant has 9 points in 24 minutes. But the rest of the guys have 2,4,6,7 minutes. There's just much of a bench there.
Harden has just kicked his ass in crunch time, though.
dabom
04-19-2017, 09:41 PM
Reggie doesn't even give heat to Russ. Keeps finding ways not to blame him. :lol
DPG21920
04-19-2017, 09:42 PM
I mean, I dont know how to blame Russ too much tbh..He has to take some bad shots, but he was great today.
NASpurs
04-19-2017, 09:43 PM
Even with KD there,Westbrick still found a way to chuck. Fuck off.
gambit1990
04-19-2017, 09:44 PM
okc doesn't have a second option. adams and taj are solid 4th options.
dabom
04-19-2017, 09:45 PM
He's the pg right? Isn't he supposed to make easy for his team to score? :lol
OKC is screwed -- they can't live with Westbrook, they can't live without him. Either way, they can't win big.
Franchises usually get one seminal make-or-break moment to determine their ultimate fate.
With Orlando, it was dumping Ben Wallace for Grant Hill (and patting their back about cap space brilliance the whole way).
With OKC, it was letting Harden walk.
Game, set, match.
Mikeanaro
04-19-2017, 09:54 PM
Rihanna missed 3 consecutive 3 pointers, was gassed as hell but who cares HE HAD A TRIPLE/OCTUPLE!!!!!!
gambit1990
04-19-2017, 09:59 PM
okc doesn't have a second option. adams and taj are solid 4th options.
should westbrook play under control more? definitely. that okc roster is nothing though.
$pursDynasty
04-19-2017, 09:59 PM
Rihanna missed 3 consecutive 3 pointers, was gassed as hell but who cares HE HAD A TRIPLE DOUBLE !!!!!!
And a L (oss) but let's not mention that.
Here's the problem. Westbrook has a FG% of .425 this season. A 3P% of .343, and an EFG% of .476.
People here bitch about Parker CONSTANTLY. He has a FG% of .466, a 33P% of .333 and an EFG of .486.
When Westbrook is on, he's amazing. But if he shot his averages every night, they wouldn't make the playoffs. You can't get around the fact that his overall efficiency is shit. And you can't just forget about it.
gambit1990
04-19-2017, 10:04 PM
Here's the problem. Westbrook has a FG% of .425 this season. A 3P% of .343, and an EFG% of .476.
People here bitch about Parker CONSTANTLY. He has a FG% of .466, a 33P% of .333 and an EFG of .486.
When Westbrook is on, he's amazing. But if he shot his averages every night, they wouldn't make the playoffs. You can't get around the fact that his overall efficiency is shit. And you can't just forget about it.
westbrook could play under control more.
but don't act like has kawhi, lma, green, manu, mills, gasol surrounding him.
OKC is screwed -- they can't live with Westbrook, they can't live without him. Either way, they can't win big.
Franchises usually get one seminal make-or-break moment to determine their ultimate fate.
With Orlando, it was dumping Ben Wallace for Grant Hill (and patting their back about cap space brilliance the whole way).
With OKC, it was letting Harden walk.
Game, set, match.
That's a pretty valid point. If they had kept Harden and gotten someone good for Westbrook? They'd probably still have Durant, and they might have a banner in the rafters.
BillMc
04-19-2017, 10:08 PM
Here's the problem. Westbrook has a FG% of .425 this season. A 3P% of .343, and an EFG% of .476.
People here bitch about Parker CONSTANTLY. He has a FG% of .466, a 33P% of .333 and an EFG of .486.
When Westbrook is on, he's amazing. But if he shot his averages every night, they wouldn't make the playoffs. You can't get around the fact that his overall efficiency is shit. And you can't just forget about it.
Yep.
Basically that applies to Kobe too without the help of prime Shaq / Gasol. Inefficiency is lost in a haze of sheer gross numbers, I guess.
Mikeanaro
04-19-2017, 10:13 PM
And a L (oss) but let's not mention that.
I think if you scored a TrIpDoW the league gives you the W :lol
Ice009
04-19-2017, 11:30 PM
That's a pretty valid point. If they had kept Harden and gotten someone good for Westbrook? They'd probably still have Durant, and they might have a banner in the rafters.
They didn't need to even break the 3 of them up. Harden said he didn't have a problem coming in off the bench. Unless he's changed his opinion, he said it wasn't about coming in off the bench. He was OK with that. I just think he wanted to be maxed out, money wise.
I mean, trading him and getting Kevin Martin out of his who left shortly after anyway. That now looks like one of the worst trades in years. I can't remember, what pick did they get? Was it the one they used on Adams? Even if they got Adams out of it, it was still a bad trade.
dabom
04-19-2017, 11:47 PM
You have to wonder if these players are overrated at some point. 3 MVP type players and they can't win it. Flash and no substance. That's why westy should have never been close to winning MVP.
There is a history of not elevating or changing his game.
will_spurs
04-20-2017, 04:43 AM
I don't understand the praise some players get when chucking to the rate of 42% FG, it's ridiculous. Westbrook got his 51 points and OKC lost. There's nothing more to say really.
SASdynasty!
04-20-2017, 07:20 AM
How can you shoot 43 times in a game and not shoot 40%? At some point doesn't the law of averages pretty much guarantee that?
NameLess Scrub
04-20-2017, 07:37 AM
I don't understand the praise some players get when chucking to the rate of 42% FG, it's ridiculous. Westbrook got his 51 points and OKC lost. There's nothing more to say really.
Because it is perceived as if he HAD to chuck because his team is trash.
I think that's in part true, but when 1 player dominates the ball so much, I'd expect the rest of the players to lose rhythm and confidence.
WB, anything bad aside, is a great player. But I couldn't give the MVP to a player who stat pads and chucks so much.
TDomination
04-20-2017, 10:51 AM
There was one possession where the Thunder got a steal late in the game and had an opportunity to close within 3 points i believe. And of course they throw it straight to Westbrook. He misses, then they get an offensive rebound and there was definitely a few players that were open that could have taken a shot but they just give it back to westbrook and of course he aint giving it back. Takes another shot...clank.
Reminds me of the last few years the Lakers had with Kobe.
Arcadian
04-20-2017, 11:04 AM
:lol Westbrick
This series just might cost him the MVP.
SpursFan86
04-20-2017, 11:21 AM
:lol Westbrick
This series just might cost him the MVP.
Votes are already in...playoffs won't have any effect on voting.
Arcadian
04-20-2017, 11:23 AM
Votes are already in...playoffs won't have any effect on voting.
Are they? He's lucky if so.
Still, :lol Westbrick possibly winning MVP
NameLess Scrub
04-20-2017, 12:07 PM
Are they? He's lucky if so.
Still, :lol Westbrick possibly winning MVP
I don't think I've found more than one person at work who agrees with me he shouldn't get the MVP.
Triples doubles, and 6th place in the West without KD and with what is considered no help are the main arguments, along with the amount of points and every game he has won with his heroics.
Arcadian
04-20-2017, 02:55 PM
I don't think I've found more than one person at work who agrees with me he shouldn't get the MVP.
Triples doubles, and 6th place in the West without KD and with what is considered no help are the main arguments, along with the amount of points and every game he has won with his heroics.
On ESPN today, I saw a few talking heads argue that Harden is looking more valuable than Russ right now. One guy was saying, "Why can't he get his teammates involved like Harden does?" They're starting to catch on.
Brazil
04-20-2017, 03:00 PM
of course Harden 34% usage with 2 reb short of a triple double is more valuable than westchimp 42% usage triple doub
Trueblood
04-20-2017, 04:13 PM
OKC is screwed -- they can't live with Westbrook, they can't live without him. Either way, they can't win big.
Franchises usually get one seminal make-or-break moment to determine their ultimate fate.
With Orlando, it was dumping Ben Wallace for Grant Hill (and patting their back about cap space brilliance the whole way).
With OKC, it was letting Harden walk.
Game, set, match.
That's a pretty valid point. If they had kept Harden and gotten someone good for Westbrook? They'd probably still have Durant, and they might have a banner in the rafters.
They didn't need to even break the 3 of them up. Harden said he didn't have a problem coming in off the bench. Unless he's changed his opinion, he said it wasn't about coming in off the bench. He was OK with that. I just think he wanted to be maxed out, money wise.
I mean, trading him and getting Kevin Martin out of his who left shortly after anyway. That now looks like one of the worst trades in years. I can't remember, what pick did they get? Was it the one they used on Adams? Even if they got Adams out of it, it was still a bad trade.
All valid points. I think where OKC went wrong was with Ibaka.
They had enough money to max (or almost max) 3 players. They knew they had to choose and they threw money at Ibaka over Harden. At the time it felt like it made sense because they had shooters in Westbrook and Durant, and Ibaka gave them size and physicality.
I suppose they thought they could use him against the Spurs (weak against athletic frontcourts) and to match up against LeBron and they would have enough shooting between the other two to basically let harden walk (they got virtually nothing in return iirc). If they had let Ibaka walk and paid harden instead they would have a starting lineup with Durant and Westbrook and harden coming off the bench. Basically all game long they'd have two of them on the floor and they would probably have multiple trips to the finals and at least one banner.
They would have had to use scraps to fill out the roster but a few well placed vet minimums with those 3 would have been an insane roster.
will_spurs
04-20-2017, 04:59 PM
Because it is perceived as if he HAD to chuck because his team is trash.
OKC players this season ranked by FG%
http://i.imgur.com/yMq7rPI.png
Ice009
04-20-2017, 07:53 PM
All valid points. I think where OKC went wrong was with Ibaka.
They had enough money to max (or almost max) 3 players. They knew they had to choose and they threw money at Ibaka over Harden. At the time it felt like it made sense because they had shooters in Westbrook and Durant, and Ibaka gave them size and physicality.
I suppose they thought they could use him against the Spurs (weak against athletic frontcourts) and to match up against LeBron and they would have enough shooting between the other two to basically let harden walk (they got virtually nothing in return iirc). If they had let Ibaka walk and paid harden instead they would have a starting lineup with Durant and Westbrook and harden coming off the bench. Basically all game long they'd have two of them on the floor and they would probably have multiple trips to the finals and at least one banner.
They would have had to use scraps to fill out the roster but a few well placed vet minimums with those 3 would have been an insane roster.
Yeah, I think they did pick Ibaka over Westbrook, but I also think they dumped Harden because he didn't have a great finals against the Heat. He played poorly in that series. I'm not sure why he was so great against the Spurs and then bad against the Heat. Maybe the pressure of the finals got to him? I assume it did. I'm pretty sure the owners didn't want to pay him max because of that finals series (Westbrook stepped up, Harden didn't), but they still should have as he was a huge key in the series against the Spurs for them. They should have given him another chance to redeem himself and then traded him if they weren't happy with his performance. Either way you look at it, they fucked up.
sasaint
04-20-2017, 09:59 PM
Yep.
Basically that applies to Kobe too without the help of prime Shaq / Gasol. Inefficiency is lost in a haze of sheer gross numbers, I guess.
Media idiots.
HarlemHeat37
04-21-2017, 12:14 AM
Didn't get to watch the first 2 games, tbh..I heard that he had a 50-point triple-double, though, I received a barrage of texts about it..unreal, historic numbers..
Cry Havoc
04-24-2017, 12:10 AM
Didn't get to watch the first 2 games, tbh..I heard that he had a 50-point triple-double, though, I received a barrage of texts about it..unreal, historic numbers..
:lmao :lmao :lmao
10-28 shooting in a pivotal playoff game.
Westbrick 35% for the game
The rest of the Thunder: 57%
:lmao
Please keep parroting this narrative about how Westbrick has no help and has to do it all.
In a game that comes down to 4 points, Westbrick misses 18 shots.
gambit1990
04-24-2017, 12:12 AM
:lmao :lmao :lmao
10-28 shooting in a pivotal playoff game.
Westbrick 35% for the game
The rest of the Thunder: 57%
:lmao
Please keep parroting this narrative about how Westbrick has no help and has to do it all.
In a game that comes down to 4 points, Westbrick misses 18 shots.
i assume you didn't watch the game. the rockets carried harden the way okc could never carry westbrook.
Cry Havoc
04-24-2017, 12:14 AM
Westbrick update:
44-118 for the series. 37%. :lmao
Westbrook has missed 74 fucking shots in this series. :lmao
Cry Havoc
04-24-2017, 12:15 AM
i assume you didn't watch the game. the rockets carried harden the way okc could never carry westbrook.
4 point game and Westbrook missed 18 shots. Okay bro. I guess I wasn't watching when Westbrook shot multiple 3 pointers from 4 feet behind the 3 point line. Or when he tried to draw a foul and airballed the 3 when the defender didn't give his pussy ass the contact. :lmao
Mikeanaro
04-24-2017, 12:15 AM
Westbrick update:
44-118 for the series. 37%. :lmao
Westbrook has missed 74 fucking shots in this series. :lmao
What you mean? HE SCORED A TRIPLE DOUBLE! :chestbump
Cry Havoc
04-24-2017, 12:20 AM
What you mean? HE SCORED A TRIPLE DOUBLE! :chestbump
According to every Thunder fan, the Thunder are unbeatable as long as their bigs get the fuck out of the way to make sure their point guard gets rebounds. Because as we all know, ensuring the shortest player on the court gets the rebound is the key to winning playoff games. :lmao
gambit1990
04-24-2017, 12:20 AM
the rockets carried harden the way okc could never carry westbrook.
Mikeanaro
04-24-2017, 12:59 AM
According to every Thunder fan, the Thunder are unbeatable as long as their bigs get the fuck out of the way to make sure their point guard gets rebounds. Because as we all know, ensuring the shortest player on the court gets the rebound is the key to winning playoff games. :lmao
Lol They are amazing, first a couple years ago they were too good for the average human eye thats why they got so many calls when Durbeta was there, and now this, he had his 10 rebounds in the first half, HE IS EVERYWHERE! MVP! MVP! :clap
Ice009
04-25-2017, 10:01 PM
Westbrick, with "brick" being they key word. As I said during the off-season, my pitch to KD would have had myself walking into the meeting with a brick in my hand and throwing it on the table. I would have started by saying, in Australia, what we call you (referring to KD) is a brickie's labourer. You keep passing that ball (brick) to Westbrook and he'll keep throwing up the bricks. You want to build a house, stay in OKC, you want to win a Championship, come to SA.
http://i.imgur.com/YxrpMHU.jpg
Cry Havoc
04-25-2017, 10:34 PM
http://i.imgur.com/YxrpMHU.jpg
"but but but.... Westbrook doesn't have any help so it's okay to go 2-11 in the 4th a game after shooting 4-18 in the 4th."
Such a clutch player.
It's almost like I've said all along that Westbrook will shoot you out of at least two playoff games in the series because he has no ability to take good shots in crunch time. We've seen it every single year, and it just happened again.
:lol Westbrook
:lol muh stats
Let's see if Harlem gets a "barrage of texts" tonight too :lol
Spurs9
04-25-2017, 10:39 PM
Hes a frustrating player tbh, love his drive but he needs to slow it down most of the time. In the 4th he always just goes full hero mode.
RD2191
04-25-2017, 10:42 PM
I'm starting to believe he stayed in OKC not because he cares about the team/city but because he has free reign to stat pad and chuck as much as he wants.
noles1983
04-25-2017, 10:43 PM
Westbrick update:
44-118 for the series. 37%. :lmao
Westbrook has missed 74 fucking shots in this series. :lmao
lol that fuck missed another 20 tonight! MVP MVP MVP
sasaint
04-25-2017, 10:43 PM
According to every Thunder fan, the Thunder are unbeatable as long as their bigs get the fuck out of the way to make sure their point guard gets rebounds. Because as we all know, ensuring the shortest player on the court gets the rebound is the key to winning playoff games. :lmao
This season was the first time I ever heard such nonsense. With the Rockettes' dispatching OKC in the first round, maybe it will be the last time, too.
Hes a frustrating player tbh, love his drive but he needs to slow it down most of the time. In the 4th he always just goes full hero mode.
Except he's never the hero.
I'm starting to believe he stayed in OKC not because he cares about the team/city but because he has free reign to stat pad and chuck as much as he wants.
Welcome to me, 5 years ago.
OKC players this season ranked by FG%
http://i.imgur.com/yMq7rPI.png
Imagine being worse than Anus Cancer. Just imagine it.
Seventyniner
04-25-2017, 11:01 PM
WB could be a real force if he just never shot a 3 again. Reminds me of Antoine Walker, jacking up terrible 3s cause "there are no 4s."
He's not that great. He's an all or nothing guy, like Kobe. He'll cost the team when it matters.
I said
tbdog
04-26-2017, 12:06 AM
Awesome block though
https://streamable.com/s/3pb0x/gkdjrx
Cry Havoc
04-26-2017, 01:27 AM
Awesome block though
https://streamable.com/s/3pb0x/gkdjrx
How fucking stupid do you have to be to think "hey a guy flying at the other team's hoop with both hands I should block that shit"?
Westbrook has negative bbiq. Maybe the most athletic player in the league outside of bron but I love the fact that his brain tells him that a 27 footer with 12 on the shot clock is a good playoff shot.
Mikeanaro
04-26-2017, 01:32 AM
No tripdow my hommie swaggie doggie, HIS TEAM IS BAD COO COO COO CHOO! :whine :downspin:
tbdog
04-26-2017, 06:07 AM
He is about to join Dirk as the only other mvp to lose in the first round since the 7 game series became into effect. BTW, Dirk won 67 games that year. 20 less wins and you have Westbrook. If he indeed wins, it has to be the worst MVP ever.
HarlemHeat37
04-30-2017, 05:11 PM
Westbrook had one of the best series' in recent history, tbh, despite his shitty team being a serious underdog vs. a loaded Rockets team..
Westbrook played 194 minutes in the series’ five games, of which Houston won four. When Westbrook was on the floor (for 39 minutes per game), the Thunder outscored Houston by 4.9 points per 100 possessions. Taj Gibson (plus-13.7) and Steven Adams (plus-7.7) posted even better net ratings when they were on the court.
When Westbrook wasn’t on the court, Oklahoma City was even worse than you probably thought. The Thunder were outscored by 51.3 points per 100 possessions while Westbrook watched from the bench, for a total of 46 minutes during the series. That’s about one full game, scattered throughout five games, of total ineptitude.
In real terms, when Westbrook sat this series, the Thunder were outscored 137-79 in 45.5 minutes of total court time. They lost by 58 points without Westbrook playing. For the entire series, Houston only outscored Oklahoma City by 43 points.
tl;dr When Russ was on the floor, the Thunder outplayed and outscored the 3-seed Rockets..when he sat, the Thunder played like the worst team in NBA history, statistically:lol
Victor Oladipo:lmao
dabom
04-30-2017, 05:14 PM
Does Russ taking all the usage during the RS make the thunder more dependent on him? Dude got cucked in the 1st round. Not MVP worthyness.
HarlemHeat37
04-30-2017, 05:15 PM
Does Russ taking all the usage during the RS make the thunder more dependent on him? Dude got cucked in the 1st round. Not MVP worthyness.
They literally only have 2 other players who can create their own shot..one of them(Oladipo) got plenty of shots during the RS and vs. Houston in the playoffs, which resulted in a horrid performance..the other(Kanter) barely plays with Westbrook and Billy Donovan refuses to use him..
dabom
04-30-2017, 05:16 PM
Kinda like lebron getting all these shooters around him then you can expect the dropoff to be the same The team is built around that player. The player is the problem when they cant win then.
Could he post these stats with Durant last year? He is relatively the same player. Even bonehead 4th quarter plays and shooting.
dabom
04-30-2017, 05:21 PM
They literally only have 2 other players who can create their own shot..one of them(Oladipo) got plenty of shots during the RS and vs. Houston in the playoffs, which resulted in a horrid performance..the other(Kanter) barely plays with Westbrook and Billy Donovan refuses to use him..
He's been Russ the same russ for 3 years now. The only thing that improved was his usage. :lol
Everything is relative to his usage tbh. Great player, but not an MVP player.
Kinda like lebron getting all these shooters around him then you can expect the dropoff to be the same The team is built around that player. The player is the problem when they cant win then.
Could he post these stats with Durant last year? He is relatively the same player. Even bonehead 4th quarter plays and shooting.
Last year the rebounds between Adams and Westbrook were flip flopped in the playoffs. Westbrook averaged under 7 per game, while Adams was in double digits. Durant averaged more than Westbrook.
Westbrook had one of the best series' in recent history, tbh, despite his shitty team being a serious underdog vs. a loaded Rockets team..
tl;dr When Russ was on the floor, the Thunder outplayed and outscored the 3-seed Rockets..when he sat, the Thunder played like the worst team in NBA history, statistically:lol
Victor Oladipo:lmao
Sure. When you spend all season relegating your team to being more concerned about getting Russell a triple double than winning, you've made them useless when he's not on the floor. I mean, guys box out for the rebound and no point guard is there to grab it.
You shouldn't be surprised that professional NBA players don't play well together in the playoffs if they've never really played together.
HarlemHeat37
04-30-2017, 05:26 PM
He's been Russ the same russ for 3 years now. The only thing that improved was his usage. :lol
Everything is relative to his usage tbh. Great player, but not an MVP player.
I never disagreed with that, I made this thread years ago:lol I don't think Westbrook improved his game, he just chose to take the path of entertainment, this year..
Westbrook's historic season was for entertainment purposes, just as much as it was for winning games..it's perfectly fine to dislike his playing style or disagree with his potential MVP stats, yet still acknowledge that his supporting cast is horrible(which is shown by any on/off metric)..
There are 2 primary goals for star players: Win and entertain
In Westbrook's case, there's no plausible scenario where this OKC team was going to contend..the alternative was to entertain every night by volume shooting and getting numbers at a historic rate, the same way Kobe did during the dark days of the Lakers(2005-2007)..he was the most discussed player of the year, road fans were buying tickets to see him and chanting MVP, etc..
There's this silly belief among fans that every player should convince himself that his team is a legit contender(even when they clearly aren't, based on the supporting cast) and they should play "the right way":lol nobody is coming to watch Andre Roberson shooting 10 open 3s per game, or Taj Gibson trying to make contested layups..OKC chose to the correct path, they went with entertainment and still managed to get playoff games for a team that had limited talent..
HarlemHeat37
04-30-2017, 05:30 PM
Sure. When you spend all season relegating your team to being more concerned about getting Russell a triple double than winning, you've made them useless when he's not on the floor. I mean, guys box out for the rebound and no point guard is there to grab it.
You shouldn't be surprised that professional NBA players don't play well together in the playoffs if they've never really played together.
Who are these players that were going to step up with increased responsibility?
They couldn't even build a team in the simplest way, which would be to surround Westbrook with shooters like Houston did with Harden:lol
dabom
04-30-2017, 05:33 PM
OKC has had plenty of chances to win and never has. At that point you just have to blame the players involved. Russ being one of them.
I'm just disagreeing with the notion of an MVP player.
Who are these players that were going to step up with increased responsibility?
They couldn't even build a team in the simplest way, which would be to surround Westbrook with shooters like Houston did with Harden:lol
I guess we'll never know since the team decided an individual accolade was more important than building a contender. It's pointless to wait until the season is over before trying to make any hypothetical adjustments.
The way they did it is obviously a shtick. How that can produce an MVP is beyond me. What's so valuable about a guy who's ultimate impact was 1 win in the 1st round?
I never disagreed with that, I made this thread years ago:lol I don't think Westbrook improved his game, he just chose to take the path of entertainment, this year..
Westbrook's historic season was for entertainment purposes, just as much as it was for winning games..it's perfectly fine to dislike his playing style or disagree with his potential MVP stats, yet still acknowledge that his supporting cast is horrible(which is shown by any on/off metric)..
There are 2 primary goals for star players: Win and entertain
In Westbrook's case, there's no plausible scenario where this OKC team was going to contend..the alternative was to entertain every night by volume shooting and getting numbers at a historic rate, the same way Kobe did during the dark days of the Lakers(2005-2007)..he was the most discussed player of the year, road fans were buying tickets to see him and chanting MVP, etc..
There's this silly belief among fans that every player should convince himself that his team is a legit contender(even when they clearly aren't, based on the supporting cast) and they should play "the right way":lol nobody is coming to watch Andre Roberson shooting 10 open 3s per game, or Taj Gibson trying to make contested layups..OKC chose to the correct path, they went with entertainment and still managed to get playoff games for a team that had limited talent..
What other team in the NBA or the history of the NBA would run that kind of gimmick for one player? Even the Lakers didn't do that for Kobe (but close).
HarlemHeat37
04-30-2017, 05:48 PM
A small-market team where the superstar runs the organization and they're terrified that he would leave:lol
The Lakers kind of did do that for Kobe in those seasons where he was taking 30+ shots, tbh..Lebron could, too, but he obviously never would..
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