***** The Official 2015 Avante Football Thread ***** [Archive] - Page 2

SpursforSix

10-09-2015, 01:49 PM

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I know Avante was over there in the early 70's as a sailor doing what sailors do, but being a total moron I can't figure it out. But since he's taking me to school because I don't understand ATS wagering I 'll use something over 40 yeara old because I'm stupid. I hate it when Avante proves my ignorance.

LOL. Nice correction. "40 yeara old".

try once more.

retard.

Avante

10-09-2015, 02:03 PM

LOL. I hope you're not takling me to the same school you went to. Becaude they seemed to taughted you wroong.

Hook line and sinker, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

That right there says it all about you. Do you honestly believe I can't spell those words? I just wanted to see just how tiny and stupid you really are. Dude, that was sad.

My favorite is this one.

I'll go 5-2, 6-3, 4-1...crickets. Then I go 2-4 and it's...HAHAHAHA YOU SUCK!!!!!...hahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

SpursforSix

10-09-2015, 02:09 PM

Hook line and sinker, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

That right there says it all about you. Do you honestly believe I can't spell those words? I just wanted to see just how tiny and stupid you really are. Dude, that was sad.

Correct. I honestly believe that you cannot spell many words the first time through. And in some cases, the second and third time.
The fact that you are constantly correcting your posts and making edits tells me that you really have a hard time communicating your thoughts in a logically and/or correctly.
IIRC, it's one of the top 5 signs of a pedophile.

Avante

10-09-2015, 02:30 PM

Correct. I honestly believe that you cannot spell many words the first time through. And in some cases, the second and third time.
The fact that you are constantly correcting your posts and making edits tells me that you really have a hard time communicating your thoughts in a logically and/or correctly.
IIRC, it's one of the top 5 signs of a pedophile.

Wrong as you always are, dude, I have no spelling problems of any kind, none! And if you wanted to put that to the test we can. I simply post really really fast, like super zoooom. Constantly making errors that need to be cleaned up, many times I do that after posting. That's why the edits. I don't expect anyone to think I can't spell...years..wagering. I forget we have dumb fucks like you out there, so I mess with ya, it's funny watching how important you take....YIPPPEEEE AVANTE WAS WRONG, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....haha!!!

Ok, little guy what did I spell wrong up there, oh yeah...nothing.

But, I did have...yoiu...wromg....fuuny....which I fixed.

SpursforSix

10-09-2015, 02:33 PM

Wrong as you always are, dude, I have no spelling problems of any kind, none! And if you wanted to put that to the test we can. I simply post really really fast, like super zoooom. Constantly making errors that need to be cleaned up, many times I do that after posting. That's why the edits. I don't expect anyone to think I can't spell...years..wagering. I forget we have dumb fucks like you out there, so I mess with ya, it's funny watching how important you take....YIPPPEEEE AVANTE WAS WRONG, WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....haha!!!

Ok, little guy what did I spell wrong up there, oh yeah...nothing.

But, I did have...yoiu...wromg....fuuny....which I fixed.

why do you give a fuck. that's the funny part. you posting "really fast, like super zoooom". And then caring enough what Spurstalk thinks to go back and correct all the words you should have spelled right the first time. If my spelling and grammar was as poor as yours, I'd act like I didn't give a fuck and just leave it.

Clipper Nation

10-09-2015, 07:43 PM

Are you ever going to figure out only one of us is 19, and that's you? Dude, all that silly shit you come up with is fucking stupid, ok, it's not clever , not witty, not creative, it's shit some dumb kid would say, ok amigo?
> Not denying that the pic in question is on your wall

Avante

10-11-2015, 02:58 AM

why do you give a fuck. that's the funny part. you posting "really fast, like super zoooom". And then caring enough what Spurstalk thinks to go back and correct all the words you should have spelled right the first time. If my spelling and grammar was as poor as yours, I'd act like I didn't give a fuck and just leave it.

My spelling and grammer are just fine little man. When normal people see....yeara....they know that's a typo, a freak like yiu see's it as a misspelled word. That's how dumb you are.

Avante

10-11-2015, 03:00 AM

> Not denying that the pic in question is on your wall

Dude, in all my like I have never seen anyone who never ever gets anything right, but you. It's uncanny how anyone could be totally wrong all the time, amazing!

Avante

10-11-2015, 03:12 AM

Week 5 plus $ 1090

110 to win 100

Atl - 7.5
Ariz - 3.5
NE - 8.5
NYG - 7.5
Den - 5.5

SpursforSix

10-11-2015, 12:15 PM

Week 5 plus $ 1090

110 to win 100

Atl - 7.5
Ariz - 3.5
NE - 8.5
NYG - 7.5
Den - 5.5

Close.

i have

NE -10
NYG -7
Ariz -3
Atl -8

and

Saints +6

SpursforSix

10-11-2015, 12:17 PM

Loaded up with Falcons and Pats on fantasy and draft kings

Avante

10-11-2015, 10:39 PM

3-2

plus $1170.

Clipper Nation

10-11-2015, 10:45 PM

Dude, in all my like I have never seen anyone who never ever gets anything right

You don't have any mirrors in your house?

Avante

10-11-2015, 11:00 PM

You don't have any mirrors in your house?

Little man, why do you work so hard at this? Another winning week, does that bother you?

Plus 3370 the last two seasons right here in black and white, pretty good aren't I?

Ok stupid, let's break down tomorrow's MNF game.

The Steelerw are one of the best teams in the NFL in these night games, but there is no Big Ben. The Chargers are 1-4 ATS vs Steelers last 5. Now add their 0 line problems.

Then there;s the Mike Vick on the road vs Philip Rivers at home factor.

I don't like it, not a good "spot". So....pass.

See how ya do it shorty?

Avante

10-11-2015, 11:19 PM

Close.

i have

NE -10
NYG -7
Ariz -3
Atl -8

and

Saints +6

Since you like to act stupid over "a" week, you suck guy. 2-3...ouch~~~~~~

Clipper Nation

10-11-2015, 11:23 PM

Little man, why do you work so hard at this? Another winning week, does that bother you?

Mason makes great picks, tbh. Props to him.

HemisfairArena

10-11-2015, 11:26 PM

Since you like to act stupid over "a" week, you suck guy. 2-3...ouch~~~~~~

Take it easy, A,,,,no one bats a .1000. I'm sure you have had days were you go 0-5,,,,

Avante

10-11-2015, 11:30 PM

Mason makes great picks, tbh. Props to him.

Don't really know how to act to ya slugger? Funny watching how ya go around..."yep, you're pretty good".

Clipper Nation

10-11-2015, 11:30 PM

Don't really know how to act to ya slugger? Funny watching how ya go around..."yep, you're pretty good".

Mason is pretty good.

Avante

10-11-2015, 11:34 PM

Take it easy, A,,,,no one bats a .1000. I'm sure you have had days were you go 0-5,,,,

I did go 0-3 once, that was the first week of 2014. Started out 330 in the hole. Finished the season plus $ 2100 right here documented. Haven't lost a dime in 2015, and don't plan on it.

Avante

10-11-2015, 11:36 PM

Mason is pretty good.

Knowing how important it is to you to ALWAYS be a jerk I'll take that as a compliment. I told you I was an expert.

The thing is everyone is dying for me to fail, they hare it when I win, hahaha!!!!! I do have fun with this knowing I never lose over a season, never!

HemisfairArena

10-11-2015, 11:37 PM

I did go 0-3 once, that was the first week of 2014. Started out 330 in the hole. Finished the season plus $ 2100 right here documented. Haven't lost a dime in 2015, and don't plan on it.

Post your picks pre-game and lets see,,,,

Avante

10-11-2015, 11:40 PM

Post your picks pre-game and lets see,,,,

What do you think I'm talking about? You don't see my 5 picks for this week?

HemisfairArena

10-12-2015, 12:16 AM

What do you think I'm talking about? You don't see my 5 picks for this week?

Post your picks on all games for next weeks games(with the spread) and lets see how you do,,,,pre-game. You wont hit above 35%.

Avante

10-12-2015, 12:21 AM

Classic "spot' next week.

Carolina coming off a bye on the road, Seahawks coming off a loss at home.

So who has Carolina beat on the road the last two seasons?

Jax
TB...twice
NO
Atl

Who has Seattle beat at home.

Geen Bay...twice
Denver
Cards

Pete Carroll has never lost to Carolina, he's 4-0.

How could anyone make a case for a Panthers win un this "spot" ?

Avante

10-12-2015, 12:24 AM

Post your picks on all games for next weeks games(with the spread) and lets see how you do,,,,pre-game. You wont hit above 35%.

Dude, stop it, ok? This isn't the kiddie pool ok? I'm a gambler ok son, I look for 'spots" to win $$$$$, alright? I don't play silly shit like that, ok guy? I had a hard time finding 5 good plays this week, alright?

I win $$$$$, ok?

Clipper Nation

10-12-2015, 12:28 AM

Knowing how important it is to you to ALWAYS be a jerk I'll take that as a compliment. I told you I was an expert.

The thing is everyone is dying for me to fail, they hare it when I win, hahaha!!!!! I do have fun with this knowing I never lose over a season, never!

I wasn't complimenting you, faggot, I was complimenting Mason. After all, you did say you were playing his picks, right? Or were you just throwing your son under the bus for your atrocious record in previous seasons?

Avante

10-12-2015, 12:36 AM

I wasn't complimenting you, faggot, I was complimenting Mason. After all, you did say you were playing his picks, right? Or were you just throwing your son under the bus for your atrocious record in previous seasons?

Little guy, you really haven't noticed a huge difference since I said....."ok I guess I will hand out my $$$$$ making plays".....well? Mason had some fun with this but he moved out before the 2014 season. All you have seen the last two seasons are the plays I actually bet. Won $2100 right here documented in 2014 and an up $1170 in 2015 documented.

Ya can't stand it can ya slick, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! Yep, expert!

Watch how I do this amigo, a master at work.

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 10:30 AM

Since you like to act stupid over "a" week, you suck guy. 2-3...ouch~~~~~~

no shit "ouch". Matt Ryan looked like absolute shit. I still ended up ahead though. Once the Saints and Falcons lost, I added to the Pats over Cowboys.

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 10:30 AM

Little guy, you really haven't noticed a huge difference since I said....."ok I guess I will hand out my $$$$$ making plays".....well? Mason had some fun with this but he moved out before the 2014 season. All you have seen the last two seasons are the plays I actually bet. Won $2100 right here documented in 2014 and an up $1170 in 2015 documented.

Ya can't stand it can ya slick, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!! Yep, expert!

Watch how I do this amigo, a master at work.

wait...who the fuck is Mason? You had some dude living with you?

Avante

10-12-2015, 10:59 AM

wait...who the fuck is Mason? You had some dude living with you?

Dude, just how damn dense are you? Mason is my son, ok?

Avante

10-12-2015, 11:01 AM

no shit "ouch". Matt Ryan looked like absolute shit. I still ended up ahead though. Once the Saints and Falcons lost, I added to the Pats over Cowboys.

It doesn't work that way amigo, ok? You were 2-3 "here" got it? That is unless you can prove you made that Pats pick.

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 11:09 AM

It doesn't work that way amigo, ok? You were 2-3 "here" got it? That is unless you can prove you made that Pats pick.

Correct. I was 2-3. And adding losing bets to another position is not a good strategy. But it's what I did. And I came out on top. And LOL at the thought of me taking screen shots and uploading them just so I can prove that I did it.
You're the one with the credibility issues.

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 11:10 AM

Dude, just how damn dense are you? Mason is my son, ok?

From Korea?

Avante

10-12-2015, 11:17 AM

Correct. I was 2-3. And adding losing bets to another position is not a good strategy. But it's what I did. And I came out on top. And LOL at the thought of me taking screen shots and uploading them just so I can prove that I did it.
You're the one with the credibility issues.

All my picks are right here. As you can see haven't lost a dime so far in 2015. Playing with house money.

Avante

10-12-2015, 11:21 AM

From Korea?

translation

I ran my mouth and shut me up, now all I can do is pull this stupid shit.

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 11:24 AM

All my picks are right here. As you can see haven't lost a dime so far in 2015. Playing with house money.

I guess I didn't realize you posted your picks on here. What's your record old timer?

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 11:25 AM

translation

I ran my mouth and shut me up, now all I can do is pull this stupid shit.

translation: I love to fart and poop and play in my diapers.

Avante

10-12-2015, 11:35 AM

I guess I didn't realize you posted your picks on here. What's your record old timer?

I had a feeling you had no clue what was going on.

I posted all my picks right here in 2014, won $2100.

This season my picks are somewhere up there, I'm plus $1170.

I had this thing about why should I do all the work and hand out free $$$$? So I was very reluctant to this for real here. Then after Mason had everyone thinking I sucked at this I changed my mind.

I will win about $3000 right here as you will see. I haven't lost a season in over 20 years. This will be no different, so don't fight it just take notes and learn how it's done.

It's all about finding "spots" that favor one side over another ATS, that does take homework. You cannot win at this without doing the work. I wiil go 3-5, 6-10, which is all that can be expected.

Cool this internet.....you aren't this and that...ok? I am the real deal, alright/.

Avante

10-12-2015, 11:49 AM

translation: I love to fart and poop and play in my diapers.

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So tell me Avante, what about the Chargers vs Steelers tonight?

No problem little man.

The Chargers can't stop the run, they are ranked 29th in the league vs Bell a stud back. That O line is hurting for the Chargers, BUT....can you trust Mike Vick on the road vs Philip Rivers at home?

I don't play games ATS where I see ????, so no play here. With Big Ben this would be an easy Steeler play they are the best team in the NFL in these night games.

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 01:37 PM

I had a feeling you had no clue what was going on.

I posted all my picks right here in 2014, won $2100.

This season my picks are somewhere up there, I'm plus $1170.

I had this thing about why should I do all the work and hand out free $$$$? So I was very reluctant to this for real here. Then after Mason had everyone thinking I sucked at this I changed my mind.

I will win about $3000 right here as you will see. I haven't lost a season in over 20 years. This will be no different, so don't fight it just take notes and learn how it's done.

It's all about finding "spots" that favor one side over another ATS, that does take homework. You cannot win at this without doing the work. I wiil go 3-5, 6-10, which is all that can be expected.

Cool this internet.....you aren't this and that...ok? I am the real deal, alright/.

Is Mason your manservant? Why did he move away?

Avante

10-12-2015, 01:42 PM

Is Mason your manservant? Why did he move away?

Dude look, we all we get it alright? A retard hiding behind a computer, ok?

Mason simply grew up and moved away, ok little man?

How about doing othere things here besides me, ok slick? You really are a waste of time.

Oh look I can't spell..other.

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 01:56 PM

Dude look, we all we get it alright? A retard hiding behind a computer, ok?

Mason simply grew up and moved away, ok little man?

How about doing othere things here besides me, ok slick? You really are a waste of time.

Oh look I can't spell..other.

Who is Mason? Is this like when they call Chumphumper, "David"?

Avante

10-12-2015, 02:06 PM

Who is Mason? Is this like when they call Chumphumper, "David"?

Alright I've had enought, your immaturity combined with your stupidity is just too much.

Done with ya guy.

Now watch this little freak pull a Blake and follow me around, sheesh~~~~~~

SpursforSix

10-12-2015, 02:07 PM

Alright I've had enought, your immaturity combined with your stupidity is just too much.

Done with ya guy.

Now watch this little freak pull a Blake and follow me around, sheesh~~~~~~

I accept your apology.

Avante

10-13-2015, 06:41 PM

Ya start by weeding out the obvious....

Arizona back to back on the road....nope!
Atlanta on the road off a short week vs a team in desperation mode...nay!
Ravens and Niners both suicking....nope!
Buffalo at home vs a Cincy team coming off a big game...hmmmmmm?
Seattle in a must win vs a Panthers team on the road off a bye....hmmmmmmm?
Chicago on the road again heading into a bye week vs a Lions team as desperate as it gets....hmmmm?
Cleveland at home vs a Denver team on the road again heading into a bye week....hmmmm?
Green Bay at home vs a Chargers teams with no o line, coming off a short week......love it!!!!!!!!
Forget Texans vs Jags, both suck.
NE at Indy vs a less than 100% Luck....hmmmm?
Vikes at home vs a Chiefs team in struggle mode...hmmmm?
Need to see Miami with a new coach.
Giants at Philly, too many ????
Jets at home after a bye week vs a Redskins team that struggles on the road....like it!

Now ya take the..hmmmmmm?...and start looking for reasons to play a side. Looking for 3-6 best plays from an ATS perspective.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

If ya pay attention you'll see just how important running the football is. You need to be in 3rd and short and not OBVIOUS passing situations, that's what a solid run game will do, that and chew up clock giving your D a good rest. And, that's how you close out a game, running the football.

Avante

10-15-2015, 03:03 PM

It was funny watching...

little shit....you're no expert, you don't know shit!

Then it was..ok ok ya got a little lucky.

Now ya little shits finally figured it out didn't ya, yep, the real deal. I don't even see the....HAHAHAHA YOU LOST...anymore because ya know I'm going to win next week.

I will always hit 3 of 5/6 of 10...always!!!!!!

Now sit back and watch a master at work.

spurraider21

10-15-2015, 03:25 PM

Now sit back and watch Mason at work.
:tu

Avante

10-15-2015, 03:46 PM

:tu

You were funny guy.

You....lets keep Avantes plays in this thread (which was set up to....hahahahahaha see how badly he sucks)

Remember week one.....

you....AVANTE MINUS 330!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

then to watch you "finally" start to see how things really are as I went from that minus 330 to plus $2100. Like I said I would with..."it does get easier!"

I do have fun watching how many ways you guys can never..."you're pretty damn good Avante". It is comical, with that post being a great example.

Mason was an 20 year old kid playing with the dummy Blake on the computer a couple seasons ago, no way was I going toi hand out free $$$$$, then I changed my mind and decided to show off a bit.

SpursforSix

10-15-2015, 04:28 PM

You were funny guy.

You....lets keep Avantes plays in this thread (which was set up to....hahahahahaha see how badly he sucks)

Remember week one.....

you....AVANTE MINUS 330!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

then to watch you "finally" start to see how things really are as I went from that minus 330 to plus $2100. Like I said I would with..."it does get easier!"

I do have fun watching how many ways you guys can never..."you're pretty damn good Avante". It is comical, with that post being a great example.

Mason was an 20 year old kid playing with the dummy Blake on the computer a couple seasons ago, no way was I going toi hand out free $$$$$, then I changed my mind and decided to show off a bit.

Wait...you let Mason lick you balls!?!! That's weird old timer. Just weird.

SpursforSix

10-15-2015, 04:29 PM

So I took Atlanta -3.5. Anyone else on this?

Avante

10-15-2015, 05:42 PM

If I were chasing $$$$$$ I'd pass, but being up $$$$$$, yep, just caled it in at Atl - 3.5. Playing 110-win 100.

This just seems too easy, not a fan of this "spot", this is more a ..fuck it!

Chris

10-15-2015, 05:51 PM

I don't advocate gambling, but the Saints are going to get destroyed. :lol

SpursforSix

10-15-2015, 05:54 PM

If I were chasing $$$$$$ I'd pass, but being up $$$$$$, yep, just caled it in at Atl - 3.5. Playing 110-win 100.

This just seems too easy, not a fan of this "spot", this is more a ..fuck it!

Way to go old timer. I think we'll win some $ tonight.

chunticakes

10-15-2015, 07:20 PM

Way to go old timer. I think we'll win some $ tonight.

Just doubled Atlanta too.

SpursforSix

10-15-2015, 07:34 PM

Damn. Getting picked apart quickly.

SpursforSix

10-15-2015, 07:53 PM

Did Matt Ryan get Parkinson's?

chunticakes

10-15-2015, 08:17 PM

Wtf I just checked the score. He's having his playoff meltdown early it seems...

SpursforSix

10-15-2015, 08:24 PM

Dammit Coleman

Blake

10-15-2015, 10:03 PM

Avante

10-16-2015, 03:01 AM

Anti Avante betting system going to work

$

As this freak totally ignores plus $1060 this season and plus $2100 in 2014, and me talking about this being a ????? play.

Notice this retard totally ignores all those winners?

Avante

10-16-2015, 03:04 AM

Way to go old timer. I think we'll win some $ tonight.

I knew better but have no doubts I'll get the $$$$$ back Sunday. I think I'll stick to the fundamentals from now on, that being...

.....a small home dog in a division game where a loss ends their season.

Avante

10-16-2015, 03:08 AM

It is funny, I win....crickets. I wn.....crickets. I win....crickets. I lose.....and here they come, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!! Totally ignoring the fact I just went 3-1.

Avante

10-16-2015, 04:43 AM

SpursforSix

10-16-2015, 08:48 AM

Let's look at where I went wrong, what did we learn?

I had no intentions of playing this game as I mentioned above, there was something wrong with Atlanta - 3.5. It didn't feel right.

What was wrong was the fact Atlanta had barely been wiinning their games, now on the road in a short week vs a team in desperation mode. A must win situation for NO, a 5-1 record no big deal for the Falcons. I knew all this, that's why I was going to pass. Then I read.,...Marcus Colston inactive. As we know he is Brees go to guy, that changed my mind. Yep, I had too much info, I ignored the fundamentals, yep....STOO-PEED!

Won't happen again.

Marcus Colston playing or not was completely irrelevant and shouldn't have had any bearing on any decision to bet this game or not. Falcons should have been up at halftime. At least give them a chance to cover by the end of the game. But you have to give credit to New Orleans for the halftime adjustments that seemed to keep the Atlanta offense in check until garbage time.

Atlanta's pass defense is trash though. Couldn't really get much pressure on Brees and ended up with receivers (mainly that TE) wide open.

chunticakes

10-16-2015, 11:09 AM

Avante

10-17-2015, 05:55 AM

I know I'm always going to win 3-5, but that Saints game hurts. Talk about being a fucking rookie, sheesh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ATS wagering 101

A small home dog coming off a humiliating loss now at home vs a division opponet with a lead on them. Take the points.

I went against basic fundamentals. Fucking idiot!!!!!!!!!!!!

I need something I can grin about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbzQoXuxdU

SpursforSix

10-17-2015, 06:48 AM

I need something I can grin about.

Someone need to alert the local schools.
Be on the lookout for a creeper in a pedo van.
Stranger Danger
Dookie Ranger
Stranger Danger

Avante

10-17-2015, 07:01 AM

Someone need to alert the local schools.
Be on the lookout for a creeper in a pedo van.
Stranger Danger
Dookie Ranger
Stranger Danger

You're the fucking dummy who got me thinking bout that game, ya dumb fuck. You owe me 110 bucks slick.

Let me ask ya a question half pint.

If you'd been in the navy in 1970, would you have...."oh no no no my dear. not me"....well? You do know you act totally retarded over this, right?

SpursforSix

10-17-2015, 07:18 PM

You're the fucking dummy who got me thinking bout that game, ya dumb fuck. You owe me 110 bucks slick.

Let me ask ya a question half pint.

If you'd been in the navy in 1970, would you have...."oh no no no my dear. not me"....well? You do know you act totally retarded over this, right?

There was a Navy in 1970? Idk...

And sorry about influencing your betting old timer. If you're making monetary decisions based on what I say...maybe you should rethink this sports wagering thing. Don't ya think. Sheesh.

Avante

10-18-2015, 03:18 AM

Ok....

plus $1060

Week 6

NYJ - 6
Den - 4
Vikes - 3
GB - 9.5
NE - 7

110 to win 100

SpursforSix

10-18-2015, 07:44 AM

Ok....

plus $1060

Week 6

NYJ - 6
Den - 4
Vikes - 3
GB - 9.5
NE - 7

110 to win 100

Idk where you get Pats-7.

I have
Pats -10
Cinci -3.5
Jets -6.5
Seahawks -7

Avante

10-18-2015, 11:03 AM

http://linemakers.sportingnews.com/article/4657926-nfl-betting-lines-week-6-point-spreads-odds-vegas-totals-colts-patriots-giants-eagles

I called this one in the minute the line came out. I knew it would be bet up.

But, ya do know I'm not at all interested in your picks, right?

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

10-18-2015, 11:15 AM

Idk where you get Pats-7.

I have
Pats -10
Cinci -3.5
Jets -6.5
Seahawks -7
Not good picks and I'm not speaking particularly on the Seattle line

SpursforSix

10-18-2015, 11:41 AM

SpursforSix

10-18-2015, 11:43 AM

Not good picks and I'm not speaking particularly on the Seattle line

We'll see. The -10 bothers me but NE should roll.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

10-18-2015, 11:45 AM

We'll see. The -10 bothers me but NE should roll.
I don't trust the Jets to win by that much and I think Buffalo wins. I don't think Seattle covers the spread

SpursforSix

10-18-2015, 11:47 AM

I don't trust the Jets to win by that much and I think Buffalo wins. I don't think Seattle covers the spread

I hope your wrong of course. I think each of those 3 favs wins by a TD at least.

SuperCam

10-18-2015, 07:23 PM

Avante

10-18-2015, 11:29 PM

Pedo Faggot

Is this the queer who wouldn't take my bet? Ya fucking coward!

Avante

10-19-2015, 12:37 AM

Went 2-2-1, so that is a loss of 20 bucks.

So, plus $ 1040 after six weeks, which is better than I usually do this early on. It does get easier.

Avante

10-19-2015, 12:48 AM

SpursforSix

10-19-2015, 09:26 AM

In all my 50ish years of watching football games at all levels, I have never seen a more stupid play that what the Colts pulled tonight. What in the hell was that suppose to be? Whoever came up with that needs to be fired, dead serious.

Dumbest thing ever. Can't believe an NFL coach tried to pull that.

2-2. I knew better than to take damn Seattle. You got bailed out on your Pats -7.

Avante

10-20-2015, 02:35 AM

Dumbest thing ever. Can't believe an NFL coach tried to pull that.

2-2. I knew better than to take damn Seattle. You got bailed out on your Pats -7.

I wish I had a buck for everytime I lost a play by 1 or in the last minute of a game. So getting a break now and then, cool~~

Yep, somebody needs to get fired for that stupidity. I get the guy who hiked the ball wasn't suppose to but to not make it real clear....DO NOT HIKE THE BALL...OK???? ...is on the coachs.

Ok, week 7, a play that jumps out.

Arizona doesn't lose back to back games with Carson Palmer. Now they will be at home on MNF vs a Ravens team reeling on the road again. Great "spot" to look at the Cards laying the number.

Avante

10-20-2015, 05:15 AM

After six weeks, hmmmm?

Does Clowney like football?

RGII/Manziel are done as far as staring QB's goes.

No coach has made the impact Dan Quinn has made. He's got the Falcons playing better than the ever and the Seahawks falling apart on the D.

As of right now my top 5 teams.

1.Pats
2.Packers
3.Bengals
4.Broncos
5.Cards

Bigggest surprises?

The speed and agility of Carlos Hyde.

J,J.Watt???

That Seahawk D.

The Chiefs sucking as hard as they do.

The Lions...???

Andy Dalton!!!!!!!!!!!!!

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

10-20-2015, 07:47 AM

fuck you Avante

Avante

10-20-2015, 11:59 AM

fuck you Avante

It was funny,

you...Carolina is great, amazing, fantastic, supernatural and Cam Newton is God/Allah/Jupiter/Oisis/Odin/Zeus/Budda.
me...I'l take the Seahawks, ya got balls?
you...well, ah, wel.. ya see, ah.

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

If not for a..DUH!...moment the Seahawks win that game, again!!!!!!

Dude, keep it real, ok little fella, cool the stupidity, alright?

SpursforSix

10-20-2015, 12:08 PM

It was funny,

you...Carolina is great, amazing, fantastic, supernatural and Cam Newton is God/Allah/Jupiter/Oisis/Odin/Zeus/Budda.
me...I'l take the Seahawks, ya got balls?
you...well, ah, wel.. ya see, ah.

Hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!

If not for a..DUH!...moment the Seahawks win that game, again!!!!!!

Dude, keep it real, ok little fella, cool the stupidity, alright?

not everyone needs to bet old timer. his team is currently undefeated and beat your dream lover QB. I bet you fantasize about consoling a young naked Russel Wilson while leading him to your bed.
"It's OK Russel...yessss...I'll put on some...hmmmm...Pee Pee the Kidnapper....yesssss....now put it in my butt while I name the top 34 black running back 400 teams."

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

10-20-2015, 12:55 PM

Avante

10-20-2015, 12:58 PM

not everyone needs to bet old timer. his team is currently undefeated and beat your dream lover QB. I bet you fantasize about consoling a young naked Russel Wilson while leading him to your bed.
"It's OK Russel...yessss...I'll put on some...hmmmm...Pee Pee the Kidnapper....yesssss....now put it in my butt while I name the top 34 black running back 400 teams."

Little man, it's RW 4, CN 1 in that rvalry, ok?

The top 34 black running back 400 times? How about the top 34 black running backs 100m/yards times?

*** Olympian

Yards

Houston McTear 9.0 Baker HS*** (made the team but we boycotted)
Bob Hayes 9.1 FAMU (RB in college)***
Laverne Smith 9.3 Kansas
Travis Williams 9.3 ASU
Stone Johnson 9.3 Grambling*** (died from injuries sustained in a preseason game)
Eric Dickerson 9.4 SMU
O.J.Simpson 9.4 USC
Bob Paremore 9.4 FAMU (was there with Hayes)
Bo Jackson 9.5 Auburn
Marcus Dupree 9.5 Oklahoma
Darin Nelson 9.4 Stanford
Butch Woolfolk 9.4 Michigan
Cyril Pinder 9.4 Illinois
Trenton Jackson 9.4 Illinois ***
Joe Delaney 9.4 NWLa
Buddy Young 9.5 Illinois
Wilbert Montgomery 9.5 ACU
Warren McVea 9.5 Houston
Glen Davis 9.6 Army
Paul Warfield 9.6 Ohio State (running back in college)
Ollie Matson 9.6 USF
Clint Jones 9.6 Michigan State
Willie Galimore 9.6 FAMU

Meters

Trindon Holliday 10.00 LSU
Jeff Demps 10.01 Florida***
Curtis Dickey 10.11 Texas A&M
Jamaal Charles 10.18 Texas
Michael Bennett 10.18 Wisconsin
Warrick Dunn 10.3? FSU
Chris Johnson 10.3? East Carolina
C.J.Spiller 10.4? Clemson
Reggie Bush 10.4? USC
LaMichael James 10.4? Oregon
Naoplean Kaufman 10.4? Washington

Avante

10-21-2015, 04:10 AM

After six weeks....

Peyton will be in deep shit once it starts getting cold, and they have no thumper back. Not good!

The Seahawks can only lose one more game if they plan on being in the SB hunt. An 11-5 will work.

RGIII is done as far as a starting NFL QB goes.

Le'Veon Bell the best RB in the game right now.

Tom Brady vs Aaron Rodgers should be the SB.

Jax, Tenn, Hous, Chi, Niners, Rams, Buc's, Saints, Lions, Redskins, Cowboys, Chiefs, Raiders, Browns, Ravens, Buff, Miami, Chargers out of the playoff hunt already.

In...

Cincy/Pitt
Den
NE/NYJ
Indy
GB/Minn
Philly/Giants???
Ariz/Sea???
Caro/Atl

Avante

10-21-2015, 05:19 AM

So what QB/RB/WR/TE are playing rigt now who is the best ever for that franchise?

Vernon Davis TE/Niners
Tom Brady QB/Pats
Aaron Rodgers QB/Packers
Calvin Johnson WR/Lions
Larry Fitzgerald WR/Cards
Cam Newton QB/Panthers
Philip Rivers QB/Chargers
Antonio Gates TE/Chargers (never would have thought anyone could replace Kelllen Winslow)
Marcus Colson WR/Saints
Russell Wilson QB/Seahawks
Jimmy Graham TE/Seahawks
Andy Dalton QB/Bengals
Big Ben QB/Steelers
Antonio Brown WR/Steelers
Joe Flacco QB/Ravens
Jay Cutler QB/Bears
Matthew Stafford QB/Lions
Eli Manning QB/Giants

Who did I miss?

SpursforSix

10-21-2015, 09:58 AM

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

10-21-2015, 11:20 AM

Rodgers over Favre? Not yet

Avante

10-21-2015, 01:17 PM

You list is suspect old timer.

As you..."who are those guys?"

Avante

10-21-2015, 01:19 PM

Rodgers over Favre? Not yet

Here's where we dump the stats, sorta like with Gale Sayers, and go with what we actually see. There is no doubt at all that Rodgers is better than Favre, none~!

Bo Jackson isn't on any rushing lists, yet we all know how great he was and would have been.

SpursforSix

10-21-2015, 01:26 PM

Here's where we dump the stats, sorta like with Gale Sayers, and go with what we actually see. There is no doubt at all that Rodgers is better than Favre, none~!

Bo Jackson isn't on any rushing lists, yet we all know how great he was and would have been.

you can't make your list based on speculation. you have to have a body of work.
Ben over Bradshaw? Dalton hasn't put in enough time to eclipse Esiason. Antonio Brown over Stallworth and Swann? Stafford over Layne?
I'm sure there are others.

spurraider21

10-21-2015, 01:27 PM

swann was overrated anyway. the NFL films slow motion catch is like 75% of his legacy

Avante

10-21-2015, 01:36 PM

you can't make your list based on speculation. you have to have a body of work.
Ben over Bradshaw? Dalton hasn't put in enough time to eclipse Esiason. Antonio Brown over Stallworth and Swann? Stafford over Layne?
I'm sure there are others.

Do you pay any attention at all to what's really going on?

Big Ben is number 17 all time in TD pases and number 17 in yards. Bradshawe is 31/not in the top 50.

Now compare Antonio Brown seasons to Stallworth/Swann, not even close.

Matthew Stafford is by far a better QB than Bobby Layne, who had 196TD's and 243 INT's. Layne was great because he ran a lot and kicked.

I'll give ya Dalton, did jump the gun on him.

SpursforSix

10-21-2015, 01:44 PM

Do you pay any attention at all to what's really going on?

Big Ben is number 17 all time in TD pases and number 17 in yards. Bradshawe is 31/not in the top 50.

Now compare Antonio Brown seasons to Stallworth/Swann, not even close.

Matthew Stafford is by far a better QB than Bobby Layne, who had 196TD's and 243 INT's. Layne was great because he ran a lot and kicked.

I'll give ya Dalton, did jump the gun on him.

you also have Stafford over Dutch Clark?

Of course Ben's number will be better. He's playing in a time when they throw the ball more. Not to mention Ben's seasons were 16 games where Bradshaw's were split. And don't forget the watered down NFL.
But I'll agree a case could be made for Ben.

You keep going back and forth from stats to "what you see on the field".

SpursforSix

10-21-2015, 01:51 PM

swann was overrated anyway. the NFL films slow motion catch is like 75% of his legacy

IDK. He was damn good. Agree though that most only remember that one catch. Especially Cowboys fans. But he was statistically a top 10 receiver in his time while having to split targets with Stallworth who was also top 10.

Avante

10-21-2015, 01:52 PM

you also have Stafford over Dutch Clark?

Of course Ben's number will be better. He's playing in a time when they throw the ball more. Not to mention Ben's seasons were 16 games where Bradshaw's were split. And don't forget the watered down NFL.
But I'll agree a case could be made for Ben.

You keep going back and forth from stats to "what you see on the field".

Dutch Clark, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Dude, he played five seasons with the Lioins, threw less than 300 passes, ok? What the fuck?????

There are a few like Bo Jackson, Gale Sayers, Aaron Rodgers, where we can't go with the stats, but they are rare.

Avante

10-21-2015, 01:56 PM

IDK. He was damn good. Agree though that most only remember that one catch. Especially Cowboys fans. But he was statistically a top 10 receiver in his time while having to split targets with Stallworth who was also top 10.

Not sure what to do with Swann, no his stats aren't SB worthy, this is a fact. And he did play on a team with a HOF receiver/RB. If he'd been their go to guy, hmmmm? But he wasn't.

Hmmm?

Actually the best Steeler receiver before Brown was Hines Ward.

SpursforSix

10-21-2015, 02:03 PM

Dutch Clark, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Dude, he played five seasons with the Lioins, threw less than 300 passes, ok? What the fuck?????

There are a few like Bo Jackson, Gale Sayers, Aaron Rodgers, where we can't go with the stats, but they are rare.

you can't put Bo Jackson over Allen. Not for just 3 years or so.

SquawkinHawkBigCock

10-21-2015, 10:42 PM

I'm pretty sure Ryan is the best QB the Falcons have ever had, unless you want to make a case for Bartowski. The only other options really are Chandler or Vick.

Avante

10-23-2015, 12:15 PM

you can't put Bo Jackson over Allen. Not for just 3 years or so.

Well no shit, come on guy, sheesh~~~~~

Avante

10-23-2015, 12:16 PM

I'm pretty sure Ryan is the best QB the Falcons have ever had, unless you want to make a case for Bartowski. The only other options really are Chandler or Vick.

Ryan is without question the best Falcons QB.

Avante

10-23-2015, 01:31 PM

One more time.

The NFL is not the NCAA, there it's not about winning every game, it's all about making the playoffs. So we will see a different approach early on in a season. So don't put tooooooo much into the first half of an NFL season, sure we do know the Jags suck and the Pats don't but don't think we won't be seeing some changes in the second half, we always do. So slow down a little bit, ok rookies?

Avante

10-23-2015, 02:56 PM

Rookies

A guy doesn't get bad, good, terrible, great, over....a...game or a few games, ok? Sheesh!!!!!!

What is with you people? Stop...over reacting.....ok? Look, after turkey day, then we do start getting a realistic read on things, ok? So slow the fuck down, ok?

Amazing~~~~~~~~

SpursforSix

10-23-2015, 04:27 PM

Shut up already

Avante

10-24-2015, 02:21 AM

Shut up already

Stop posting on a football board when you obviously don't know football, ok? You just get in the way, honest!

Avante

10-24-2015, 03:45 AM

I'm watching Memphis playing Tulsa, sorta half assing it when I hear Mack Brown say "he's 6-7 240 pounds and runs like Colin Kaepernick"....he's talking about a guy named Paxton Lynch.

This guy is something else, rocket arm and has some serious jets.

Memphis 59 Tulsa 42 with 8 minutes to go.

Make that 66 to 42 as a RB just broke three tackles to score.

Would ya believe a couple local HS's had a 86-79 game last season?

How about Georgia Tech 222 Cumberland 0.....?

Then there's.....

An all black HS in Tennessee that was unscored on for three seasons in a row, and......nobody got past the 50 yard line on them.....wow!

Silver&Black

10-24-2015, 04:45 AM

Avante your thoughts on "fights in football". In my home state last night two teams (East Mississippi CC and Mississippi Delta) got into a serious altercation because of "running up the score." The score was East Mississippi 48 and Mississippi Delta 0 right before halftime. Then this broke out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcNqxj47TSg

The story that really isn't being told is that the East Mississippi coach called 2 timeouts right before half to try to get the ball back and score again. This is why I couldn't be a coach...I would walk across the field and punch the opposing team's coach in the face and get arrested. Really? Calling back to back timouts when you're up by almost 50 at halftime? The opposing coach needs to realize that this is 19-20 year old kids playing and try not to shame them by running up the score. In the NFL...I'm fine with it. Professional athletes getting paid the big $$$ don't have my sympathy. But, to do this to a teenage kid is unacceptable.

Avante

10-24-2015, 10:29 AM

I'm with you on this, kids that age are looking to us for guidance, not a good look being a jerk by embarrashing others. It does make me curious about how that coach made it that far being an obvious prick. That can't be the first time he's pulled that shit. If I'm the parent of one of his players I'm having a little talk with him about why my son was involved in that bullshit. I think we can assume this sort of mentality is why that coach is at that level of football.

Ya don't have to try and hold your players back, ya just call plays not designed to score (bang the line) and do all ya can to run time off the clock (stay in bounds, no time outs). Hell, just take your first team out and bring in the second stringers, that makes it real obvious you are being compassionate. If they score, you tried.

I agree about pro sports being different, for the obvious reasons.

Avante

10-24-2015, 10:34 AM

Having a hard time finding five solid ATS plays this week, a lot of conflicting trends or none at all.

The only play that stands out is Arizona minus the number. They are a great bounce back team under Arians, they don't lose two in a row, while the Ravens are a mess on the road again. This is a great 'spot" for the Cards.

Soon we'll start seeing games (like this one) where one team has serious playoff seedings to consider and the other is just playing out a season. So we get motivation vs non motivation.

spurraider21

10-24-2015, 03:31 PM

Chargers are terrible home favorites in recent seasons and the Raiders have played them well going back to last year with Carr

Avante

10-24-2015, 03:43 PM

Chargers are terrible home favorites in recent seasons and the Raiders have played them well going back to last year with Carr

The Chargers were 6-4 as HF's prior to this season, the Raiders as a RD 8-8-1.

The last 4 in this match up.

2014

31-28 SD
13-6 SD

2013

27-17 Oak
26-14 SD

But, the Raiders are 5-1 the last six ATS. So they would be the play but, they are coming off a bye on the road. Have never liked that "spot".

Teams coming off a road loss now at home vs a division rival, usually a good "spot" for them. But, that Charger 0 line is in shambles. So we see way too many...????....for me.

I try to search out 3-5 "spots" where ya can....yes yes yes yep, ok, yep...for one side, we don't see that in this game.

Try an make a case for the Ravens vs Cards, ya can't? There is only one way to go there, Cards minus the points.

spurraider21

10-24-2015, 04:13 PM

Are there numbers backing up your "coming off a bye on the road aversion?

Avante

10-24-2015, 04:37 PM

Are there numbers backing up your "coming off a bye on the road aversion?

I have a betting guide, choked full of the best ATS "spots" for these teams. If a team really sucks ATS coming off a bye (many do) it's mentioned, it's not mentioned wth the Raiders. But, any time ya mess up the routine with NFLers you have to be careful, these pros are very much into that routine.

I'll be damn, in the front of this betting guide is a play they recommend (this was done a year ago) for whatever week it is, would yo believe... Oakland is the best play this week? Well I'll be damn. The Jets plus the points the second.

spurraider21

10-24-2015, 04:40 PM

Are there numbers backing up your "coming off a bye on the road aversion?
So the general answer is "no"

Avante

10-24-2015, 04:42 PM

So the general answer is "no"

Well if ya wanna stay a simple little shit and never learn anything, do the work yourself, ok slugger?

Dude, why be a prick? I have a ton of experience with this stuff, why not pick up some pointers instead of being a little punk?

spurraider21

10-24-2015, 04:45 PM

Well if ya wanna stay a simple little shit and never learn anything, do the work yourself, ok slugger?

Dude, why be a prick? I have a ton of experience with this stuff, why not pick up some pointers instead of being a little punk?
It's a legit question. You always talk about numbers and trends, but then have some arbitrary "gut feeling" rule about teams coming off a road bye with no statistical backing.

Avante

10-24-2015, 04:57 PM

It's a legit question. You always talk about numbers and trends, but then have some arbitrary "gut feeling" rule about teams coming off a road bye with no statistical backing.

There are simply certain "spots" ya don't really wanna mess with. A team on the road on a Thursday with a back up QB who only had a couple days to get in tune, yet there are no stats on this I know of. A team in a third consecutive road game vs team in a second consecutive home game, yet, no stats on that.

The Chargers are coming off a road loss now back home in a must win situation, the Raiders on the road coming off a bye in a place they don't win often. But we can't ignore 5-1 ATS either. Yep, too many...????

I want to find nothing but...yep yep yep and yep. Not looking for...??????

Guess what I just found.

The Raiders as a RD coming off a bye week...5-6ATS

So who shines in this "spot"? Denver is 11-3 ATS as a HF. Who totally sucks, Seattle, they are 8-19-1 ATS coming off a bye, the worst in the league. The Packers are 20-10 ATS coming off a bye.

The Seahawks will play the Cards at home coming off their bye, but they are 4-1 as a HF vs the Cards, yep, conflicting trends.

spurraider21

10-24-2015, 05:32 PM

teams with backup QB's are obviously poor picks... dont play dumb

thats different from "coming off a road bye." is that significantly different than "coming off a home bye" and how

Avante

10-24-2015, 05:39 PM

teams with backup QB's are obviously poor picks... dont play dumb

thats different from "coming off a road bye." is that significantly different than "coming off a home bye" and how

Where did I say anything about a road bye? Why would that matter? You're misunderstanding me.

It doesn't matter what ya did before the bye, I'm talking about coming off a bye, ok?

Just found this one...

Coming off a bye the Raiders are 1-4 ATS vs the division. Now add 5-6 as a RD, that's a 10-6 trend, but they do have that 5-1 vs SD. Yep, too many...????

Dude, what exactly is it with you? You saw me win 2100 last season in your thread, you are seeing me up 1040 right now, so why do you always challenge me on everything, it isn't real obvious I know what I'm doing? Why not pick up a few things instead of the constant bullshit, well?

Avante

10-25-2015, 09:39 AM

Worst week so far as far as finding "spots".

Only game I feel good about is Arizona - 7.5 on MNF.

So plus $1040 and will play 110 to win 100 with the Cards.

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Really did expect more out of the Bills this season, hell, they are now getting clobbered by the lowly Jags.

Chargers all beat up, looking like Antonio Gates might not play. Tempted to play the Raiders but they always scare me, no team has more stupid penalties than they do.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

10-25-2015, 09:52 AM

Who ya got Philly or Carolina

Avante

10-25-2015, 10:05 AM

Who ya got Philly or Carolina

As ya know your Panthers got destroyed in Philly last season losing 45-21, I think we'll see some pay back tonight. Sam Bradford vs that defense not good.

But, I wouldn't be shocked if that Eagles D was the difference either.

So slight lean towards Carolina, pretty much based on them being home with revenge.

As far as Sunday night football goes.

Panthers 4-4 at home. Talking SU.

Philly on the road 11-12.

So nothing there.

Avante

10-25-2015, 10:22 AM

What are the odds of my two teams ...Niners/USC...looking as bad as they ever had (Niners) and as good as they have in a long long time (USC) on the same week? Both with new coachs.
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Never seen a week with so many games with ????? attached to them from an ATS perspective. Weird!

spurraider21

10-25-2015, 11:21 PM

the raiders won on the road coming off a bye

SpursforSix

10-25-2015, 11:29 PM

the raiders won on the road coming off a bye

Ya don't get it slick. You look for spots. Every trend doesn't work every time ...got it. You have to also know that the Raiders had...Tim Brown. Yep..cat could fly and you don't just look at one game. It's ...how I did last season up 25,000 or this season up 65jk00.
Sheesh...lots of rookies around here.

Avante

10-25-2015, 11:35 PM

the raiders won on the road coming off a bye

Didn't I tell you according to THE PLAYBOOK that was the play they recomeembed as THE play of the week?

The magazine is 7-3 so far in 2015.

I mentioned 5-1 in this "spot". I just can't go with a team that has as many penalties as they do, and you heard that mentioned, right?

No Antonio Gates for Rivers today was huge.

Avante

10-25-2015, 11:38 PM

Ya don't get it slick. You look for spots. Every trend doesn't work every time ...got it. You have to also know that the Raiders had...Tim Brown. Yep..cat could fly and you don't just look at one game. It's ...how I did last season up 25,000 or this season up 65jk00.
Sheesh...lots of rookies around here.

The Raiders are now 6-6ATS as RD's coming off a bye rookie. That's losing $$$$$.

This is what so many of you rookies do, and it's fucking comical. Ya don't masturbate over ..."one"...game, ya look at the history iinvolved. The Raiders are not a good road team, this is a well known fact, talking from an historical perspective. You don't ignore that...FACT...unless you're a rookie.

Since 2012 they were 11-12-1 in that role ATS.

SpursforSix

10-25-2015, 11:42 PM

Avante

10-25-2015, 11:45 PM

Russel Wilson is terrible.

Then ya wonder why you get laughed at and treated like a retard.

SpursforSix

10-25-2015, 11:56 PM

Then ya wonder why you get laughed at and treated like a retard.

You really don't want to know how your mom treats retards then.

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 12:01 AM

The Raiders are now 6-6ATS as RD's coming off a bye rookie. That's losing $$$$$.

This is what so many of you rookies do, and it's fucking comical. Ya don't masturbate over ..."one"...game, ya look at the history iinvolved. The Raiders are not a good road team, this is a well known fact, talking from an historical perspective. You don't ignore that...FACT...unless you're a rookie.

Since 2012 they were 11-12-1 in that role ATS.
and you're looking up well over a decade of raiders data to get that 6-6 stat... what do the kerry collins/norv turner teams, or the aaron brooks/art shell team, or the jamarcus russell/lane kiffin teams have to do with anything?

trends are only useful to go back a certain amount of time... especially when you have coach/qb changes. if you give me a decade of pats stats, i'll listen, because belichik/brady probably do have tendencies where they're better or worse. but looking at the last 12 times the raiders were a road team coming off a bye? that goes back probably 20 years. who cares??

Avante

10-26-2015, 12:03 AM

You really don't want to know how your mom treats retards then.

translation

Hey Avante, just who were the running backs who were also tracksters?

Here ya go slick.

110/400 hurdlers

Tyrone Wheatley Michigan
Hugh "The King" McElhenny Washington
James Owens UCLA
Paul Robinson Arizona
Bobby Mitchell Illinois***
Todd Gurley Georgia

Long Jumpers

Johnny Hector Texas A&M
Terry Metcalf Long Beach State
"Jaguar" Jon Arnett
Eric Metcalf Texas
Gale Sayers Kansas
Calvin Hill Yale
Paul Warfield Ohio State***

Sprinters

Ollie Matson USF
Glen Davis Army
Herschel Walker Georgia
Bob Hayes FAMU***
Houston McTear Baker HS
Robert Smith Ohio State
Kelvin Bryant North Carolina
Travis Williams ASU
Stone Johnson Grambling
Jamaal Charles Texas
Michael Bennett Wisconsin
Eric Dickerson SMU
Darin Nelson Stanford
Cyril Pinder Illinois
Javid Best Cal
C.J.Spiller Clemson
Curtis Dickey Texas A&M
Warrick Dunn FSU
Bo Jackson Auburn
Trenton Jackson Illinois
Napolean Kaufman Washington
Khalfani Muhammad Cal
Justin Fargas USC
O.J.Simpson USC
Trindon Holliday LSU
Joe Delaney NWLa
Buddy Young Illinois
Marcus Dupree Oklahoma
Dino Philyaw Oregon
Lance Alworth Arkansas***
Jeff Demps Florida
Warren McVea Houston
LaMichael James Oregon
Andy Hopkins SFAustin
Amos Marsh Oregon

*** switched to wide receivers in the NFL

Decathletes

Jim Thorpe Carlisle
John Henry Johnson ASU
Milt Campbell Indiana

Weightman

Christian Okoye Azusa Pacific

Avante

10-26-2015, 12:14 AM

and you're looking up well over a decade of raiders data to get that 6-6 stat... what do the kerry collins/norv turner teams, or the aaron brooks/art shell team, or the jamarcus russell/lane kiffin teams have to do with anything?

trends are only useful to go back a certain amount of time... especially when you have coach/qb changes. if you give me a decade of pats stats, i'll listen, because belichik/brady probably do have tendencies where they're better or worse. but looking at the last 12 times the raiders were a road team coming off a bye? that goes back probably 20 years. who cares??

Dude, you have watched me win over 3000 right here documented the last two seasons. Why not cool your stupidity, ok? I win because of those trends.stats, ok? Only a fool/idiot ignores them.

Just last season the Raiders were 4-5 as a RD, they couldn't even beat Chicago on the road this season....ok? Don't be a rookie, ok guy? The Chargers are all beat up, so don't get goofy, alright? They still haven't bet a team with a winning record on the road in a long long time.

On the road they have gone...

2013..1-7
2014...0-8
2015...2-1

Ok? That's 3-16.

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 12:18 AM

the raiders were 3-13 last year and 3-3 this year. different teams

Avante

10-26-2015, 12:21 AM

the raiders were 3-13 last year and 3-3 this year. different teams

Well then how come they haven't won more than 8 games in a season in over a decade? Well? Different teams, right?

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 12:21 AM

Well then how come they haven't won than 8 games in a seasn in over a decade? Well? Different teams, right?
they raiders won 8 games in 2011 and 2010

and keep in mind Al Davis was not only the owner, but the GM, lead scout, president, virtually every front office position you can think of. he was brilliant for most of his career, but once the gannon/brown/rice team broke apart he fell off a cliff and had the team in the dumps by constantly trying to fix the problem by overpaying free agents. deangelo hall. javon walker. tommy kelly. many others. the raiders of the last few years have been under a different regime. they've drafted a franchise QB. things have changed. only an idiot wouldn't see that

Avante

10-26-2015, 12:23 AM

they raiders won 8 games in 2011 and 2010

See that word....more?

How come they haven't won more than 3 road games in any season in over a decade, well?

Dude, they just happened to play a Chargers team with a a lot of injuries right now, you know it so don't try and act like it's anything more than that, ok?

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 12:24 AM

you didn't type "more"... read what i quoted

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 12:24 AM

oh now you went back and edited it after i responded to it. real slick

Avante

10-26-2015, 12:28 AM

oh now you went back and edited it after i responded to it. real slick

Stupid, it made no sense unless I did edit it and I did that the minute I saw the mistake, ok little man?

The thing is the Raiders are not a good team, but they will be a lot better in a couple years, ok? They haven't done shit in a long long time, so to put my $$$$ on a team with the road record they have, hell no!

They play in Pittsburgh in two weeks, lets see how they do there, ok? Hell, they have Jets/Steelers/Vikes the next three weeks, not good!

Avante

10-26-2015, 01:10 AM

Anyone here familiar with...GOOGLE? Well if ya are why not use it, ok? Actually take some time and research things, ok?

We can start with Russell Wilson. Do any of you have a clue at all about just how special his three seasons and seven games have been in the history of the game? Hell no ya don't, ya don't have a clue. Why not actually GOOGLE...

Joe Montana
Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Peyton Manning
Brett Favre

...and then compare what they did in three seasons and seven games vs what RW has done, ok? It's real obvious you haven't a clue and it makes ya look stupid, ok?

Educate yourself little people, ok?

Avante

10-26-2015, 01:53 AM

Ok, if we put 3 points for a road win, 2 for a home win, 1 for a road loss and 0 for a home loss, after seven weeks it looks like this. I do have the Cards beating the Ravens.

1.NE 19
2.Cincy 19
3.Denver 19
4.Atlanta 19
5.Carolina 18
6.GB 17
7.Arizona 16
8.Pitt 15
9.NYJ 14
10.NYG 14

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 02:02 AM

the raiders have 2 road wins (6), 1 home win (2), 2 home losses (0), and 1 road loss (1)

that should be 9 points. you've given them 11... then again they've also had a bye

Avante

10-26-2015, 02:14 AM

the raiders have 2 road wins (6), 1 home win (2), 2 home losses (0), and 1 road loss (1)

that should be 9 points. you've given them 11... then again they've also had a bye

I left off the Colts, so I dumped all but the top 10.

Raiders

loss at home...0
won at home....2
won on road...3
lost on road...1
lost at home...0
won on road..3

That's..9

So ya take that 9 and add the difference in points scored/given up.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

As we can see they are -9 which is close enought to - 10 to deduct 1, so they have a power ranting of 8. If they's been plus 20, they'd have an 11 power ranking, ya just deal with the first number. Now what if they are playing a team with a power rating of 24?

I don't start using this system until after week 8, by then I have enought info. Yes tes, it's flawed but it's does give ya another tool in your box.

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 02:30 AM

Avante

10-26-2015, 02:43 AM

point differentials are really shaky to use the way you are... i mean today the raiders were demolishing the chargers... it was 37-6 at the end of the 3rd quarter and they took their foot off the gas. but on the final scoreboard, they were only +8, which isn't an accurate portrayal of how much better they were. especially this early in the season

See this?

1.NE 19
2.Cincy 19
3.Denver 19
4.Atlanta 19
5.Carolina 18
6.GB 17
7.Arizona 16
8.Pitt 15
9.NYJ 14
10.NYG 14

NE won
GB/Cincy/Den had byes
Atl won
Carolina won
Arizona will win
Pitt...fucked up
NYJ lost to the higer ranked NE
NYG won

So only the Steelers lost to a lower ranked team.

You do know how important Antonio Gates is to the Chargers, right? And you know about their offensive lines problems, right? Trust me if Gates was there and that line wasn't all banged up the Chargers win this game.

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 02:44 AM

Avante

10-26-2015, 03:03 AM

the chargers had no answer for the raiders offense. the raiders didn't punt until after the midway point of the 3rd quarter. trust me fella, the chargers weren't going to win this game. next time you should watch a game before commenting on it

Dude, I live in Cali ok, now what game do you think we got? Stop acting stupid, ok? Dude, the Chargers couldn't sustain drives because of no Gates/Gordon, so here comes that D back on the field, now think just a little bit, ok?

I know I Know it's real important to you that...RAIDERS KICKED ASS...but only a rookie would miss the sad shape the Chargers were in for this game, ok, so keep it real, alright? There is a reason the Charges were favored, ok?

Yes, the Raiders are getting better, alright? But don't get goofy and start seing things that just aren't there.

spurraider21

10-26-2015, 03:06 AM

Avante

10-26-2015, 03:13 AM

i didnt ask where you live. your comments just indicate you dont understand what happened in the game. thinking the presence of a TE would have made a difference? thinking rivers was struggling because of the offensive line? the raiders only had 1 sack on the day

Dude, I saw the game, ok? If you honestly believe not having your best receiver/running back and having a banged up O line didn't matter I can't help you. Let's take Cooper/Murray off the Raiders and give them a make shift line and see what happens, ok?

I realize ya need...wow the Raiders lookled great today..but, all they dd was take advantage of a banged up team, that's what guys who know the game see, little shits like you....WOW MY RAIDERS WON A GAME, YIPPPPEEE!!!!!!

Avante

10-26-2015, 04:44 AM

The All Badass Defense

DE...Deacon Jones
DT.."Mean" Joe Green
DT..Randy "Manster" White
DE..John Randle
MLB...Dick Butkus
OLB..Lawrence Taylor
OLB...Bill Romonanski
CB..."Night Train" Lane
CB...Ronnie Lott
Safety...John Lynch
Safety...Jack Tatum

Avante

10-26-2015, 10:36 PM

This is just too easy.

Thank you Joe Flacco.

Ok, plus $1140.

AlexJones

10-27-2015, 05:38 AM

This is just too easy.

Thank you Joe Flacco.

Ok, plus $1140.

Hey Avante, I'd be willing to pay up to $5000 USD to produce a porno featuring Judy and HarlemHeat37 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11597) as his black bull, tbh. You know your role.

Avante

10-27-2015, 11:05 AM

Hey Avante, I'd be willing to pay up to $5000 USD to produce a porno featuring Judy and HarlemHeat37 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11597) as his black bull, tbh. You know your role.

translation

Hey Avante, who would be the top five Boston/NE Patriots running backs? As you know you are "Da Man"

Here ya go faggot

1.Sam "Bam" Cunningham
2.Jim Nance
3.Curtis Martin...more of a Jet
4.Tony Collins
5.Kevin Faulk

Avante

10-27-2015, 11:12 AM

Ok, up $1140 after seven weeks. I always play it pretty cautious early on, the reason being teams like the Ravens, Colts, Seahawks, Falcons, because they aren't the same as they have been. And it takes a few weeks to see that. Sure ya look at historical trends but you do go deeper than just numbers.

I only played Arizona this week, the reason being.....good team coming off a loss at home in front of a national audience. I just played a "spot". A $$$$ winning one when dealing with teams with winning records. Sure it got close because of a blocked kick but the Cards were in total control of that game. Good teams coming off a loss now at home....great "spot' to look at. Oh yeah, and the Ravens were on the road again.

The game that jumps out at me in week 8...

Panthers at home vs a Colts team falling apart. The Panthers at home again and are 4-1 ATS vs the Colts. And on MNF the Colts are 2-5 as a RD, the Panthers at 3-2 as a HF, that's a 8-4 trend, any time ya double up a trend, that's strong.

I know we have a lot of punk ass kids out there who always need to act retarded when they see anyone who knows anything, So I'm talking to the serious players out there, why not learn a few things, ok? Don't fight it. embrace it.

I will confess, it do get how some are just dying to....YOU LOST, YOU SUCK!!!!!!, while never ever...good week, good job.....hahahaha!!!!!!! So far this season I haven't lost a dime, and won't be! Up, $3240 the last two seasons right here in living black and white.

SpursforSix

10-27-2015, 11:29 AM

This is just too easy.

Thank you Joe Flacco.

Ok, plus $1140.

Don't you mean, "thank you Chandler Catanzaro"?

Avante

10-27-2015, 11:39 AM

Don't you mean, "thank you Chandler Catanzaro"?

Nope!

Flacco has 8 INT's in 7 games.

Don't know what I'll play this week other than Panthers - 7 , and just called it in before the line moves up. 110 to win 100.

Not smart doing this, what if some Panthers get hurt before Monday? Does happen, I'm making an exception here.

Avante

10-27-2015, 01:23 PM

It's time now to start giving Newton and the Panthers some props. Surviving Seattle/Philly back to back warrants that along with their 4-0 even if vs lesser opposition. They are like Seattle in that they understand what football is really all about...RUN THE BALL...be in third and two. Run that clock give your D a good rest, which is what sustaining drives does.

I always give things some time, only rookies freak out from week to week. Now it is time to see the Panthers as a legit contender. And...Newton is looking solid.

My idea of a legit contender (NFC) is ending up losing to GB in GB in the NFC title game.

Avante

10-29-2015, 01:13 AM

Ok, TNF.

Pats as a HF 2-3
Dolphins as a RD 2-2

So that's a wash.

Pats have owned Miami the last three in NE, going 3-0 ATS and scoring 96 and giving up 30.

BUT...the Dolphins now have a new coach and are all jacked up right now. I think I'll pass on this one, I need more info with this new coach.

Avante

10-29-2015, 12:05 PM

Ariz - 4
Min -2
NYJ - 1.5...this number is so small, ya can ignore the trip west.
GB - 2.5
Carolina - 7

Are looking like the best bets this week, that's just at first glance (have already called in Carolina) Haven't broke it all down yet.

Avante

10-29-2015, 12:32 PM

Jerry Rice saying the Niners need to bench Kaepernick, I totally agree. And somebody needs to tell this guy...GROW UP!. He's too wrapped up in kid shit, stuff he should be beyond in his position.

Notice how the best QB's are kinda square?

By the way, Russell Wilson the most popular player in the NFL if we go with merchandizing sold.

Avante

10-29-2015, 02:00 PM

Is the AFC East the best division in football 2015? Not a really bad team there.

Everyone with 3 wins or more.

Avante

10-29-2015, 04:06 PM

Fuck it~!!

Let me make this clear, I don't like the game tonight from an ATS perspective, and if I wasn't up $1140 I wouldn't play it. I can't find any reason to take NE -7.5. This will simply be a bullshit play just to make the game more interesting. If I win I got lucky, if I lose big deal, I'm playing with their $$$$. Yes, I'm playing with my Arizona $$$$. So I either win 200 this week or lose 10.

So 110 to win 100, NE - 7.5.

Not saying having Belichick/Brady at home vs a division opponet isn't a good "spot", but coming off a short week vs a tough/physical Jets team is a bad "spot'.

Make that NE-8 as I just found out.

Belichick 11-0 vs rookie head coachs, but that's not ATS. Tom Brady 8-0 on TNF, but that's not ATS either.

Avante

10-29-2015, 10:12 PM

This is just too easy.

Add another 100.

+ $1240

Belichick now 12-0 vs rookie head coachs and Tom Brady 9-0 on Thursdays. Pats 4-0 ATS last 4 vs Miami in NE.

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

10-29-2015, 10:21 PM

Miami is such a joke..

Avante

10-29-2015, 10:27 PM

Miami is such a joke..

Who was going to go into NE on a Thursday night and beat them? They have never lost a TNF game with Brady at QB.

I'm not saying the Dolphins are a good team but they aren't a joke.

Hell, I was a bit reluctant to lay the points. I could see a 28 to 14 game, then with time running out the Dolphins score a garbage TD and I lose 28-21, not being that close.

Avante

10-29-2015, 11:20 PM

Just another tool in your tool box.

http://www.vegasinsider.com/nfl/against-the-spread/

It's not much help until about now when we have about half a season played. It's not going to be changing dramatically unless a starting QB goes down (like Palmer did last season). Just look at the role these teams are in that particular week. No it's not the final say, but it does help.

The second half of a season far easier than the first half. Now we know for sure, yep..Niner suck! Yep, the Seahawks aren't the same, yep, the Pats still the team to beat.

So ya take those numbers. Check this out.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

Look a that difference in points scored/given up.

Yep, pretty time consuming. ya gotta do your homework.

Carolina + 52 vs Indy = 27, you want numbers that strong.

SpursforSix

10-30-2015, 08:37 AM

Avante

10-30-2015, 10:45 AM

Your mom was a hamster and your dad smelt of elderberries.

It hurts doesn't it little fella, I keep winning while you keep losing.

Avante

10-30-2015, 11:51 AM

I grew up watching Johnny Unitas, he was amazing, but....he did have the best TE ever in John Mackey, the great Ray Berry and the first great receiving running back Lenny Moore (all 4 of them in the HOF) who should have played receiver. Unitas called his own plays (something they should be doing today) and he knew how to carve up a defense. You cannot talk the great QB's without Unitas. But, before him was Otto Graham, this guy played in 10 consecutive Championship games, like Unitas he was also surrounded by a lot of talent. You start talking QB's with those two, some might argue "Slingin' " Sammy Baugh, but he played against really weak defenses way back then.

Then there's Tom Brady, what a great QB this guy is. His stats combined with his SB success stands alone, noboby matchs up him. Montana doesn't gave the stats, Peyton doesn't have the Championships.

My Mount Rushmore for QB's.

Otto Graham, John Unitas, Joe Montana, Tom Brady.

SpursforSix

10-30-2015, 11:52 AM

I grew up watching Johnny Unitas, he was amazing, but....he dide have the bet TE ever in John Mackey, the great Ray Berry and the first great receiving running back Lenny More who should have played receiver. Unitas called his own plays(something they should be doing today) and he knew how to carve up a defense. You cannot talk the great QB's without Unitas. But, before him was Otto Graham, this guy played in 10 consecutive Championship games, like Unitas he was also surrounded by a lot of talent. You start talking QB with those two, some might argue "Slingin' " Sammy Baugh, but he played against really weak defenses way back then.

Then there's Tom Brady, what a great QB this guy is. His stats combined with his SB success stands alone, noboby matchs up him. Montana doesn't gave the stats, Peyton doesn't have the Championships.

My Mount Rushmore for QB's.

Otto Graham, John Unitas, Joe Montana, Tom Brady.

did you let your dog lick your balls while you watched the great Johnny U?

Avante

10-30-2015, 11:55 AM

did you let your dog lick your balls while you watched the great Johnny U?

I was usually banging your mom, she called me God....oh oh oh, yes yes, oh...GODDDD..YES!!!!!!

Avante

10-30-2015, 11:57 AM

It is funny watching the little kids here with no clue how to act around a guy who really knows football, I do get a kick out of it.

SpursforSix

10-30-2015, 11:59 AM

I was usually banging your mom, she called me God....oh oh oh, yes yes, oh...GODDDD..YES!!!!!!

LOL. That's dirty!

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

10-30-2015, 12:07 PM

Who was going to go into NE on a Thursday night and beat them? They have never lost a TNF game with Brady at QB.

I'm not saying the Dolphins are a good team but they aren't a joke.

Hell, I was a bit reluctant to lay the points. I could see a 28 to 14 game, then with time running out the Dolphins score a garbage TD and I lose 28-21, not being that close.

You can't go into NE with the game plan to run that little times. They played like shit. NE is great.. but not that great.

Avante

10-30-2015, 12:08 PM

LOL. That's dirty!

If you're going to act like a retarded 16 year old boy, I'll treat ya like one.

Dude....GROW THE FUCK UP...ok?

Little man, why not watch a master at work here, ok? Watch how I do this, stop fighting it, ok?

Avante

10-30-2015, 12:10 PM

You can't go into NE with the game plan to run that little times. They played like shit. NE is great.. but not that great.

Well let's see, the Pats have never lost a TNF game. And they haven't lost in NE at all for how long?

Yes they are that great! That Belichick/Brady combo the best we have seen.

Dude, I get this impression everything sucks with you but...THE CAROLINA PANTHERS AND CAM NEWTON..right? I'm a Niner fan, ok? We've ruled the football world and we have sucked, right now we suck, so keep it real ok, you get silly with it.

SpursforSix

10-30-2015, 01:06 PM

If you're going to act like a retarded 16 year old boy, I'll treat ya like one.

I know what you do to 16 year old boys. I'll pass.

Avante

10-30-2015, 01:11 PM

I know what you do to 16 year old boys. I'll pass.

Come on little fella, is there ever going to come a time you drop all that stupidity? I'm not gay or interested in kids, ok ya dumb fuck? I made it with some bar hookers in the navy just like everybody else did, ok stupid? Not boys, not little girls, ok retard?

How many idiots post here anyway?

Hey stupid, so you would have....

hooker...buy me drink babysan?
you...hell no, go away!

Yeah right!

Avante

10-30-2015, 01:17 PM

Is there like a stupid cloud that hovers over Texas?

Avante

10-31-2015, 06:47 PM

I have some business to take care of tomorrow, won't have time for the games. So I'm going to pass on making any plays other than my MNF play with Carolina -7 110 to 100.

No matter what happens I will enter the second half of the season up over $1000. The second half always easier to pick and I'll need a bankroll (house $$$) to play with.

As a matter of fact I'm heading out right now.

Avante

11-02-2015, 12:33 AM

So what do we think we know after 8 weeks?

NE is the best team in the league.

The Raiders are heading in the right direction, the Colts aren't.

Denver can play defense as can Carolina.

Seahawks miss Dan Quinn.

My Niners as a bad as I've ever seen them. One of the worst Coach/QB combo's in the league.

Todd Gurley treating the NFL like it was the SEC.

Drew Brees...~~~~ !!!!

Eddie Lacy needs to lose 10 pounds.

Elli Manning just looks dumb.

Anyone remember....RGIII?

DeMarco Murray fucked up!

The top 4

NE
Den
Cincy
GB

The bottom 4

Det
SF
Jax
Tenn

spurraider21

11-02-2015, 12:49 AM

:lol rams not even covering the WR's

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/qPObq9gPX8C_BHiGgrhuqg0iu_Q=/1600x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4218887/kapwat.0.gif

Avante

11-02-2015, 12:55 AM

:lol rams not even covering the WR's

https://cdn2.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/qPObq9gPX8C_BHiGgrhuqg0iu_Q=/1600x0/filters:no_upscale()/cdn0.vox-cdn.com/uploads/chorus_asset/file/4218887/kapwat.0.gif

It's simply part of the pro game, that up and down. Look at those SB Champ Ravens in 2015. No big deal.

Avante

11-02-2015, 01:38 AM

Out of the playoff hunt.

TB
SF
Chi
Det
SD
KC
Cleve
Balt
Tenn
Hous
Jax
Mia
Buff

The NFC East...ha~~~~~

spurraider21

11-02-2015, 01:46 AM

Avante

11-02-2015, 11:53 AM

so a week ago, the chargers only lose because they were missing a TE. now they're out of the playoffs hunt :lol

most of those teams you mentioned are about 2 games out of a playoff spot with 8-9 games to go

What does winning "a" game have to do with this? Dude, it's real obvious SD won't be winning the AFC West, you do know that, right? Now tell me do you really see them making it as a WC, of course not.

Avante

11-02-2015, 12:35 PM

Why I'm laying the 7 with Carolina tonight 110 to win 100. Currently + $1240

On MNF, the Panthers as a HF 3-2, the Colts as a RD 2-5. That's a 8-4 trend favoring the Panthers. Now ya look at points scored and points given up in 2015, the Panthers a plus 52 the Colts a minus 27. That's a plus 79 in favor of the Panthers. Now add the Panthers are 4-1 ATS last 5 vs Colts.

The Panthers at home "again" another factor. There is nothing that has the Colts hanging within the 7 in this "spot". If they do it will be because of injuries/turnovers, which can happen.

Everything has the Panthers covering in this "spot".

I'm watching some of you out there losing and losing your plays, the reason that's happening is you're not doing the work. If you think you can beat the NFL ATS without it, you are `100% wrong. There really is a science to this, so don't try and..."yeah right"....because you're some dumb fuck. You must understand "spots" where one side has all the advantages, from an ATS perspective, unless you do that you cannot win.

Now if I lose this play tonight being rookies you will....HAHAHA YA DUMB FUCK.....totally ignoring + $1130. As you saw there are a ton of reasons to step out on the Panthers tonight according to the homework.

Floyd Pacquiao

11-02-2015, 04:40 PM

Tony Romo is the most underappreciated player in NFL history. Cowboys would be undefeated with him playing

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 03:05 PM

Avante

11-03-2015, 03:11 PM

good going crap face.

I did a very stupid thing. I called that game in on Monday, not thinking at all about the weather, why would I....Carolina?

No way I play any game in the rain.

Dummy, don't be an idiot, ok? You saw the game, the Panthers without the rain cover this easily.

Yep just...plus $1130 heading into the easier half.

You went what..0-5?

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 03:23 PM

I did a very stupid thing. I called that game in on Monday, not thinking at all about the weather, why would I....Carolina?

No way I play any game in the rain.

Dummy, don't be an idiot, ok? You saw the game, the Panthers without the rain cover this easily.

Yep just...plus $1130 heading into the easier half.

You went what..0-5?

sheesh...you think that I...bet...Packers over Denver? or Jets -3 or took the Falcons???
hahahaha...I let my daughter pick those...also let her post on here....having some fun...
trying to teach her that betting is hard...yep...she needs to learn about trends...not just pick the better uniforms...
rookies...amirite?

Avante

11-03-2015, 03:24 PM

Ok, pay attention.

Start looking at good teams coming off a loss with serious playoff hopes.

As we have seen the Panthers could have lost in Seattle and last night (thanks to the rain). They are ready to go. The Packers haven't lost two in a row since 2013, they are a great bounce back team. I will be looking at this game from an ATS perspective.

Now it starts getting real serious. Start looking at which teams need it more, obviously teams like the Niners/Lons/Jags/Ravens re already out of it, so where is the motivation? We don't see as many upsets in the second half of a season.

Avante

11-03-2015, 03:25 PM

sheesh...you think that I...bet...Packers over Denver? or Jets -3 or took the Falcons???
hahahaha...I let my daughter pick those...also let her post on here....having some fun...
trying to teach her that betting is hard...yep...she needs to learn about trends...not just pick the better uniforms...
rookies...amirite?

I think you're a little freak who has no clue at all about ATS wagering. Why you even bother with it..???

It's all about "spots" favoring one side from an ATS perspective, your job is to find them.

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 03:35 PM

I think you're a little freak who has no clue at all about ATS wagering. Why you even bother with it..???

It's all about "spots" favoring one side from an ATS perspective, your job is to find them.

so if someone doesn't know about ATS wagering, they are a "freak"
but if they are into underage trannies, it's all good

I don't think St. Peter will buy that.

Avante

11-03-2015, 03:43 PM

so if someone doesn't know about ATS wagering, they are a "freak"
but if they are into underage trannies, it's all good

I don't think St. Peter will buy that.

Why try and talk about things ya know nothing about? I told you you'd lose your ass unless ya understood the science behind ATS wagering. And look at you, ya suck! I can't talk baseball, so I don't.

Stupid, will you ever figure out sailors in bars? What at you fucking retarded? Dude...MILLIONS ...of servicemen hit the bars looking for pussy, ok ya moron?

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 03:48 PM

Why try and talk about things ya know nothing about? I told you you'd lose your ass unless ya understood the science behind ATS wagering. And look at you, ya suck! I can't talk baseball, so I don't.

Stupid, will you ever figure out sailors in bars? What at you fucking retarded? Dude...MILLIONS ...of servicemen hit the bars looking for pussy, ok ya moron?

there's a difference between "looking for pussy" and ending up in bed with a kid.

Avante

11-03-2015, 03:52 PM

there's a difference between "looking for pussy" and ending up in bed with a kid.

Stupid, what guy is going to be seen with some kid, well? Stupid, ya go over in packs, ok? No way ya want your buddies to be telling everyone...Avante was with a little kid, what a fucking sicko...ok guy? AND...ya want well developed women with some experience, ok ya fucking rookie?

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 04:00 PM

Stupid, what guy is going to be seen with some kid, well? Stupid, ya go over in packs, ok? No way ya want your buddies to be telling everyone...Avante was with a little kid, what a fucking sicko...ok guy? AND...ya want well developed women with some experience, ok ya fucking rookie?

My guess is that you've never been in the military or overseas. You had sex with some child in California and your brain has made up some story so you could justify it and not feel guilty. All of your lists are another coping mechanism to keep your mind off the crimes you've committed against humanity.

Avante

11-03-2015, 04:07 PM

My guess is that you've never been in the military or overseas. You had sex with some child in California and your brain has made up some story so you could justify it and not feel guilty. All of your lists are another coping mechanism to keep your mind off the crimes you've committed against humanity.

Little man I joined the navy in 1969, did my boot camp in San Diego. I was on the John A. Bole a destroyer and then after decommisioning it at Hunters Point I was sent to the USSR Horne a cruiser, number 30. Now run off to Google and see if all that could fit. Now tell me stupid why would I care about that stuff?

I was in from 1969-1972, did three WESTPACS and I am a Shellback.

So once again totally wrong and if ya see some sick ass pedo ya shoot the sick fuck , ok?

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 04:11 PM

Little man I joined the navy in 1969, did my boot camp in San Diego. I was on the John A. Bole a destroyer and then after decommisioning it at Hunters Point I was sent to the USSR Horne a cruiser, number 30. Now run off to Google and see if all that could fit. Now tell me stupid why would I care about that stuff?

I was in from 1969-1972, did three WESTPACS and I am a Shellback.

So once again totally wrong and if ya see some sick ass pedo ya shoot the sick fuck , ok?

you're a hunchback? what the fuck.

Avante

11-03-2015, 04:16 PM

you're a hunchback? what the fuck.

So ya now feel stupid don't ya? Go ahead faggot, Google the USSR Horne and you'll see when I got there around 1971 it was pretty much a new ship. Google the John A. Bole and see where and when it was decommissioned.

I was in the navy ya fucking retard, ok? And just another sailor doing what they do, ok retard?

Dude, I bought this home with a GI loan.

Google...The Barbarella Club....in Singapore. Dude, I've taken a ferry from Hong Kong to Kowloon, ok ya little shit? Google...Shit River...in Olongapo.

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 04:31 PM

So ya now feel stupid don't ya? Go ahead faggot, Google the USSR Horne and you'll see when I got there around 1971 it was pretty much a new ship. Google the John A. Bole and see where and when it was decommissioned.

I was in the navy ya fucking retard, ok? And just another sailor doing what they do, ok retard?

Dude, I bought this home with a GI loan.

Google...The Barbarella Club....in Singapore. Dude, I've taken a ferry from Hong Kong to Kowloon, ok ya little shit? Google...Shit River...in Olongapo.

come on man...that was too obvious...

Avante

11-03-2015, 04:36 PM

come on man...that was too obvious...

Little man, I once posted on a board where some guy..."what do you know about sprinters, I bet ya Google everything, huh?"......hahahaha!!!!!!!!

I was a sprinter/running back, grew up loving speed. I got into everything there is pertaining to that, ok? And at 19 years old joined the navy, ok?

Why you try and fight that so hard, ??? And, not at all interested in little girls, ok retard?

Wow~~~~~~

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 04:49 PM

Little man, I once posted on a board where some guy..."what do you know about sprinters, I bet ya Google everything, huh?"......hahahaha!!!!!!!!

I was a sprinter/running back, grew up loving speed. I got into everything there is pertaining to that, ok? And at 19 years old joined the navy, ok?

Why you try and fight that so hard, ??? And, not at all interested in little girls, ok retard?

Wow~~~~~~

so you're saying that you took a ferry up shit river?

Avante

11-03-2015, 04:59 PM

so you're saying that you took a ferry up shit river?

I'll go slow amigo.

There was a navy base in Subic Bay, which was across a river from the Olongapo City Phillipines, ok? You crossed a bridge to get from one to the other, that bridge was over a river of sewage. Out in this river were little boats with girls in them and little boys with nets. If ya tossed them some coins she'd show you a tit. Yep, the boy caught that change in his net. Pricks would toss the change in shit river, yep, he went diving.

Hong Kong and Kowloon are seperated by about a mile or so, in order to get from one to the other ya take a ferry. Kowloon having some higher quality hookers.

See ya learned something today.

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 05:07 PM

I'll go slow amigo.
Out in this river were little boats with girls in them and little boys with nets. If ya tossed them some coins she'd show you a tit. Yep, the boy caught that change in his net. Pricks would toss the change in shit river, yep, he went diving.

wtf

chunticakes

11-03-2015, 05:22 PM

I'll go slow amigo.

There was a navy base in Subic Bay, which was across a river from the Olongapo City Phillipines, ok? You crossed a bridge to get from one to the other, that bridge was over a river of sewage. Out in this river were little boats with girls in them and little boys with nets. If ya tossed them some coins she'd show you a tit. Yep, the boy caught that change in his net. Pricks would toss the change in shit river, yep, he went diving.

Hong Kong and Kowloon are seperated by about a mile or so, in order to get from one to the other ya take a ferry. Kowloon having some higher quality hookers.

See ya learned something today.

I don't see the big deal with Asian hookers. Just a bunch of dead fucks with huge bushes, tbh.

Avante

11-03-2015, 05:42 PM

wtf

See, a world you know nothing about at all.

How about this?

If ya met a girl in a bar where she worked ya could buy her. You actually signed a contract with the mamasan who ran the place and she was yours for how ever long ya bought her for.

Avante

11-03-2015, 05:45 PM

I don't see the big deal with Asian hookers. Just a bunch of dead fucks with huge bushes, tbh.

There isn't and every guy messing with me about it would have done the same thing and we all know it. I do play along , it is funny to watch...."look I'm no pedo, ok?"...hahaha!!!!!! While everyone knows the servicemen in bars thing. Internet silliness.

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 05:45 PM

See, a world you know nothing about at all.

How about this?

If ya met a girl in a bar where she worked ya could buy her. You actually signed a contract with the mamasan who ran the place and she was yours for how ever long ya bought her for.

buying girls??? already starting off on immoral footing. then when you add the fact that he was under 15.
it may not be here and it may not be today....but make no mistake...somewhere...someday...you'll pay for your sins...

Avante

11-03-2015, 05:49 PM

buying girls??? already starting off on immoral footing. then when you add the fact that he was under 15.
it may not be here and it may not be today....but make no mistake...somewhere...someday...you'll pay for your sins...

Why totally ignore what I just said? Stupid, nobody wants their buddies..."Avante was with a little girl"...ok ya dumb fuck? Don't act like ya can't read faggot, ok?

Those bars were full of full grown well developed women, ok little guy?

SpursforSix

11-03-2015, 05:52 PM

Why totally ignore what I just said? Stupid, nobody wants their buddies..."Avante was with a little girl"...ok ya dumb fuck? Don't act like ya can't read faggot, ok?

Those bars were full of full grown well developed women, ok little guy?

like you ever walked into one of these places with "buddies"

Seaman Perkins : hey guys...let's check out this bar...it's called, "Hot Tigers".
Seaman Johnson : nah...let's go over to Sexy Dragons.
Avante : hey...anyone want to go with me to Underage Trannies?

Avante

11-03-2015, 06:02 PM

like you ever walked into one of these places with "buddies"

Seaman Perkins : hey guys...let's check out this bar...it's called, "Hot Tigers".
Seaman Johnson : nah...let's go over to Sexy Dragons.
Avante : hey...anyone want to go with me to Underage Trannies?

Just how dumb are you?

The day ya pulled into port ya hiered a taxi driver, his job was to take care of you and your gang. He knew where the drugs were, the best places to eat and the best bars and girls. He took care of you and your posse, ok stupid?

Everywhere but Olongapo, like I said the base jus a bridge away from down town.

You always ranin gangs, ya never ever went out alone. Yep, it could be dangerous. A lot of dangerous people over there and they know you have $$$$.

Ya walk in the bar and here they come they're like locusts, so ya pick the one you like.

Little man you are fucking about this it's comical, not a clue at all. You are one dumb fuck.

Stupid, if you were seen with a kid (never saw any in the bars) you'd never hear the end of it, ok moron?

Avante

11-04-2015, 01:19 PM

At the half way mark, points scored and given up. I twekked it a little, because of a system I use.

Plus

1.NE 116
2.Ariz 110
3.Cincy 66
4.Den 56
5.Caro 55
6.GB 44
7.Atl 40
8.NYJ 33
9.Sea 27
10.Minn 25
11.Philly 23
12.Pitt 21
13.KC 13
14.St. Lou 10

Even/Minus

15.NYG 0
16.Oak 0
17.Buff 0
18.Wash 20
19.Mia 20
20.NO 21
21.Balt 24
22.Indy 30...look at this division, all of them below.
23.Hous 31
24.Tenn 34
25.SD 36
26.TB 36
27.Dall 40
28.Clev 50
29.Jax 60
30.Chi 62
31.Det 96
32.SF 98...OUCH~~~~

Ok so there's the Bengals vs Browns on Thursday night. The Bengals a plus 66 team, the Browns a minus 50 team. Bengals at home last two seasons...8-2-1, the Browns on the road...4-8.

Andy Dalton vs Johnny Manziel.

Now who can make a case for the Browns in this "Spot"? They have no advantage at all, none!

SpursforSix

11-04-2015, 01:30 PM

Avante

11-04-2015, 01:40 PM

so you're taking the Bengals -11?

I was talking about SU there slick. Where did I mention ATS? I don't like laying double digits. You can totally be in charge. 30-14. Then have some special teams play...and ya lose 30-21. When it really wasn't that close at all.

I guarantee the Bengals win the game.

SpursforSix

11-04-2015, 01:49 PM

I was talking about SU there slick. Where did I mention ATS? I don't like laying double digits. You can totally be in charge. 30-14. Then have some special teams play...and ya lose 30-21. When it really wasn't that close at all.

I guarantee the Bengals win the game.

so you only lay 9 and under?

Avante

11-04-2015, 02:03 PM

so you only lay 9 and under?

I look for...

best QB
points scored/given up advantage (like the above)
home field
"spot"...coming off bye/second home/second road/heading into a bye
ATS role...HF,HR, RF, RD

Then put all that together and find the best 3-5 games where all that favors one side. I try my best to play one score games, don't like anything over7, but sometimes I have no choice because too many numbers point to a side.

Keep in mind I play real $$$$, this isn't just for fun. So I have to be right or lose $$$$.

Yep, a lot of homework.

spurraider21

11-04-2015, 02:04 PM

^gotta make up for the huge losses a couple seasons ago

SpursforSix

11-04-2015, 02:06 PM

I look for...

best QB
points scored/given up advantage (like the above)
home field
"spot"...coming off bye/second home/second road/heading into a bye
ATS role...HF,HR, RF, RD

Then put all that together and find the best 3-5 games where all that favors one side. I try my best to play one score games, don't like anything over7, but sometimes I have no choice because too many numbers point to a side.

Keep in mind I play real $$$$, this isn't just for fun. So I have to be right or lose $$$$.

Yep, a lot of homework.

you don't like anything over 7???

Avante

11-04-2015, 02:08 PM

^gotta make up for the huge losses a couple seasons ago

So I just all of a sudden figured it out, come on guy.

I said this heading into the 2014 season..."ok, this season I will finally hand out free $$$, you will get my legit plays"...and I haven't lost a dime since, now think just a little bit ok? Your...Avante Betting Tracker...was a total fail, and funny watching you....."ok ok ya won again:"...since it was suppose to be...lets all laugh at Avante losing.

Remember me starting out 330 in the hole in 2014, and then ending up plus 2100? You are seeing a master at work, why you fight it so hard...???

The first half of a season is pretty...???...you make your real $$$$ in the second half now that we have a real read on these teams. And I'm already up over a 1000. now think, ok?

Little man, I've been at this for over 30 years and haven't had a losing season since way way back when. I know all there is to know about ATS wagering and it should be obvious. I will win again this season, I always do.

If ya weren't such a dumbass you'd pay attention to how I do this. learn something.

Avante

11-04-2015, 02:09 PM

you don't like anything over 7???

Ya don't want to have to win by two scores.

SpursforSix

11-04-2015, 02:13 PM

Ya don't want to have to win by two scores.

I'll agree with that. Too many times, a team ahead by 2 scores will fall into a prevent and let the other team move the ball down the field and score. Knowing that they can then get the ball back and run it out.

Avante

11-04-2015, 02:16 PM

I'll agree with that. Too many times, a team ahead by 2 scores will fall into a prevent and let the other team move the ball down the field and score. Knowing that they can then get the ball back and run it out.

Bingo~~~~~

Avante

11-04-2015, 05:55 PM

I think I've seen every team play this season. The most impression unit.....that Bronco defense. They have some serious quicks as a group.

Hard to beat that Seattle line as the worst line in the league, they suck~~~~

The best RB, young Todd Gurley. RB being the one position a guy can step right in, and these rookies don't have NFL wear and tear....yet. He was a stud hurdler in HS.

A great player looking anything but....Andrew Luck. But I do think he's trying to play when he shouldn't be.

A big...???...would be Clowney. I 'm starting to wonder if he even likes football.

The biggest surprise performance was Aaron Rodgers vs Denver. Despite that D you did expect more than that. And in that game, the throws Peyton was making.

I do expect to see...NE vs Denver and GB vs Arizona in the Championship games. With both NE/Denver being able to beat any NFC team.

The Rams have had a lot of great RB's. They once had Olympic medalist (U of SF) Ollie Matson, they traded nine players to get him and he didn't disappoint. They also had Paul "Tank" Younger (Grambling) and "Deacon" Dan Towler (Wasshington & Jefferson), the first big backs tantum.

Now add 1000 yard rushers.

Dick Bass (had a cousin who was the other halfback at Vallejo HS with Bass) UOP
Willie Ellison Texas Southern
Wendell Tyler UCLA
Lawrence McCutheon Colo St
Jerome Bettis ND
Eric Dickerson SMU
Marshall Faulk SDS
Steven Jackson Oreg St
Gurly will be the next.

Avante

11-05-2015, 01:00 PM

Will tonight be the first time this season I watch the college game over the NFL?

Anyone taking the Browns/Kansas State?

SpursforSix

11-05-2015, 01:10 PM

Will tonight be the first time this season I watch the college game over the NFL?

Anyone taking the Browns/Kansas State?

thinking about Kansas State with the points. Baylor with the freshman QB. But you never know which K State teams shows up. Probably will not mess with it.

Avante

11-05-2015, 01:16 PM

thinking about Kansas State with the points. Baylor with the freshman QB. But you never know which K State teams shows up. Probably will not mess with it.

KSU is 4-1 ATS the last 5 vs Baylor.

2014...lost 27-38
2013...25-35

KSU a great HD historically speaking, getting 17, hmmmmm?

SpursforSix

11-05-2015, 01:21 PM

KSU is 4-1 ATS the last 5 vs Baylor.

2014...lost 27-38
2013...25-35

KSU a great HD historically speaking, getting 17, hmmmmm?

they just got crushed by Oklahoma and lost to a crappy Texas team. I think the question is, how good is that F QB?

spurraider21

11-05-2015, 05:01 PM

Steelers cut Dri Archer. Yup the guy sucks

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

11-05-2015, 05:44 PM

Panthers or Pack Avante? Tell me why my boys are going to lose again?

Avante

11-05-2015, 09:13 PM

Steelers cut Dri Archer. Yup the guy sucks

Dumb as a rock, aren't ya?

Hall of Famers

John Unitas
Steve Largent
Don Maynard

....all got cut. Clem Daneils the first Raider to have a 1000 yd season was cut by the Niners.

Little man do you understand any of this at all? Not a clue, huh?

spurraider21

11-05-2015, 09:19 PM

Avante

11-05-2015, 09:21 PM

Panthers or Pack Avante? Tell me why my boys are going to lose again?

You came within a blown coverage of losing to Seattle. Ya came within one play of losing to the Colts. Now ya face a Packer team that doesn't lose back to back games. They haven't lost two in a row in their last 30 games. With Carolina never being 8-0 with Rivera.

Last time ya played the Packers ya lost 38-17.

Give me one legit/logical reason to see the Panther winning in this "spot".

spurraider21

11-05-2015, 09:22 PM

Because Cam is the best thing since sliced bread.

Avante

11-05-2015, 09:26 PM

Archer will never amount to anything. He might get picked up by some team this year, but there's a pretty good chance he's jobless at the beginning of next season. He'll get a camp/preseason invite but won't make final cuts

Not sure why a team like the Steelers wanted him. He needs to be out in space, he's whole game is that speed/quicks. He is one of the fastest players in the league. Somebody will figure out how to use him, if not, so what?

N0 LyF3 ScRuB

11-05-2015, 09:27 PM

You came within a blown coverage of losing to Seattle. Ya came within one play of losing to the Colts. Now ya face a Packer team that doesn't lose back to back games. They haven't lost two ih a row in their last 30 games. With Carolina never being 8-0 with Rivera.

Last time ya played the Packers ya lost 38-17.

Give me one legit/logical reason to see the Panther winning in this "spot".

- Newton has a 105 QBR in the fourth quarter this year, and has thrown zero interceptions. I'd argue that's a big reason why we pulled that game out in Seattle.

- Last year the game was played in Lambeau. We also have zero players in our secondary that played that game last year. Two were cut the day after that game, Josh Norman was injured.

- The Packers have given up 500 yards of offense the past two games, and had a bye in-between. They have struggled to stop the run. Carolina is first in the run this year. Carolina is fourth in scoring.

- Rodgers has struggled against good defenses that get pressure on the QB. He doesn't usually win those games, especially on the road. Carolina has won their last 11 regular season games. Kawann Short has 5 sacks in the last three games. Jared Allen has 3.

Interesting spots.

Avante

11-05-2015, 09:32 PM

- Newton has a 105 QBR in the fourth quarter this year, and has thrown zero interceptions. I'd argue that's a big reason why we pulled that game out in Seattle.

- Last year the game was played in Lambeau. We also have zero players in our secondary that played that game last year. Two were cut the day after that game, Josh Norman was injured.

- The Packers have given up 500 yards of offense the past two games, and had a bye in-between. They have struggled to stop the run. Carolina is first in the run this year. Carolina is fourth in scoring.

- Rodgers has struggled against good defenses that get pressure on the QB. He doesn't usually win those games, especially on the road. Carolina has won their last 11 regular season games. Kawann Short has 5 sacks in the last three games. Jared Allen has 3.

Interesting spots.

So what's the score?