***** The Official 2015 Avante Football Thread *****

[Avante]

the raiders have beaten the steelers in 4 of their last 5 matchups

spot

Yep, it's 5-1 Raiders ATS vs the Steelers. There is nothing that has the Steelers covering in this "spot".

But, if we are tallking SU, how often have the Steelers lost three in a row under Tomlin? Since 2010 that's only happened twice, so it's rare. We have to go back to 2011 to find the last time the Raiders won three in a row.

Steelers will win this one if Big Ben plays the entire game.

[Avante]

This is what I expect to see this week. We have enought info now.

Falcons clobber my Niners.
Bills get by Dolphins
Packers don't lose two in a row and the Panthers don't win 8 in a row.
Philly takes the ball away, Cowboys give it up.
Denver will spank the Colts.
Vikes too much for Rams.
New England on a whole other level than the Skins.
Saints will beat the Titans up.
Jets coming off a loss vs a woeful Jags team, ha~~~~~
Steelers at home, Raiders on road, nuff said!
Giants outscore Buc's
Chargers due for a win, the Bears ...perfect!

If you're going to disagree do it now, ok?

[Avante]

Kendall Jones Jr, a HS DT, 6-5 365, a monster! Committed to Alabama. This kid is not fat, just huge!

[spurraider21]

rams win

[Avante]

rams win

I can understand that, this is a...hmmm? But, the Rams not all that on the road.

[spurraider21]

i dont think vikings are all that, period. definition of a team not as good as its record

[Avante]

Ok, heading into the second half, plus $1130

NYG - 2-5
NE-14
Atlanta - 4.5
Denver - 3
NO - 8

110 to win 100, once I get up $1500, will start playing 220 to win 200.

[Avante]

i dont think vikings are all that, period. definition of a team not as good as its record

The Vikes haven't lost a home game this season, Rams 1-2 on the road.

[Avante]

The All Time NFL non Power Five (and ND) NCAA Conference team.

QB...Brett Favre Southern Miss/Big Ben Miami Ohio
RB..Walter Payton Jackson St/Marshall Faulk SDS
RB...Eric Dickerson SMU/Joe "The Jet" Perry Compton JC
WR...Jerry Rice Miss Valley St/Terrell Owens Chattanooga
WR...Randy Moss Marshall/Isacc Bruce Memphis
TE...Antonio Gates Kent St/Shannon Sharpe Savannah St

[SpursforSix]

The All Time NFL non Power Five (and ND) NCAA Conference team.

QB...Brett Favre Southern Miss/Big Ben Miami Ohio
RB..Walter Payton Jackson St/Marshall Faulk SDS
RB...Eric Dickerson SMU/Joe "The Jet" Perry Compton JC
WR...Jerry Rice Miss Valley St/Terrell Owens Chattanooga
WR...Randy Moss Marshall/Isacc Bruce Memphis
TE...Antonio Gates Kent St/Shannon Sharpe Savannah St

Hey dumbass...your list makes no sense. SMU was in the SWC. You can't say they weren't part of the top 5 conferences back then.

[Avante]

Hey dumbass...your list makes no sense. SMU was in the SWC. You can't say they weren't part of the top 5 conferences back then.

Hey stoo-peed, there was no "Power Five" back then. Obviously that was about the...RIGHT NOW!

The list made all the sense in the world and only a dummy like you wouldn't get it.

Here ya go dummy, the ALL TIME NFL/HBCU.

QB...Steve McNair Alcorn
RB...Walter Payton Jackson St
RB...Leroy Kelly Morgan St
WR...Jerry Rice MVS
WR...Bob Hayes FAMU
TE...Shannon Sharpe Savannah St

All But McNair in the HOF

Rookies, sheesh~~~~~~

[Avante]

After watching the Pats, it got me thinking about teams that rely on white receivers mostly. Won't go way back to the days of Speedie/Levelli, "Crazy Legs" Hirsh and Tom Fears, I'll start in the 60's.


Those great Packer teams had...Boyd Dowler/Carroll Dale/Max McGee.
The old Oilers...Charley Hennigan/Bill Groman (9.5 sprinter)
Chargers...Lance Alworth/Gary Garrison
Cards...Bobby Joe Conrad/Sonny Randle (9.7 man)
Eagles...Pete Ratzlaff/Tommy McDonald
Bears...Johnny Morris/Mike Ditka
Jets..Don Maynard/George Sauer...their SB winning team.

[clambake]

hey pedo..........you forgot mike renfro

[Avante]

hey pedo..........you forgot mike renfro

Hey faggot, when did Mike Renfro ever play with Hennigan and Groman?

Rookies, sheesh~~~~~~~~~

[clambake]

i never said he did, criminal sick fuck

[Avante]

i never said he did, criminal sick fuck

What was I talking about ya dumb fuck? Stupid, you shoot sick ass pedos, ok? Why act fucking retarded?

[clambake]

what thoughts entered your mind when you removed her diaper?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

- Newton has a 105 QBR in the fourth quarter this year, and has thrown zero interceptions. I'd argue that's a big reason why we pulled that game out in Seattle.

- Last year the game was played in Lambeau. We also have zero players in our secondary that played that game last year. Two were cut the day after that game, Josh Norman was injured.

- The Packers have given up 500 yards of offense the past two games, and had a bye in-between. They have struggled to stop the run. Carolina is first in the run this year. Carolina is fourth in scoring.

- Rodgers has struggled against good defenses that get pressure on the QB. He doesn't usually win those games, especially on the road. Carolina has won their last 11 regular season games. Kawann Short has 5 sacks in the last three games. Jared Allen has 3.

Interesting spots.

I was pretty spot on with my prediction I went 27-24 Carolina, but the game obviously was a bit more lopsided. We have to learn to finish games. Looking at our schedule I'm trying to find our first loss. If Romo returns, I think that could be it. We've played some tough games, but they were at home fortunately. We are a very solid road team, I just hope they don't overlook opponents. Mariota is pretty accurate.

I think we finish realistically at 13-3/14-2 this year or 12-4 at worst. The only games I can see us losing are cowboys, @Saints, @Falcons, Giants - mostly on the fact that they're road games, and divisional rivals are always tough. I think we lose to one of the divisional and against either Dallas or NY.

[Avante]

what thoughts entered your mind when you removed her diaper?

You really this totally stupid?

[Avante]

I was pretty spot on with my prediction I went 27-24 Carolina, but the game obviously was a bit more lopsided. We have to learn to finish games. Looking at our schedule I'm trying to find our first loss. If Romo returns, I think that could be it. We've played some tough games, but they were at home fortunately. We are a very solid road team, I just hope they don't overlook opponents. Mariota is pretty accurate.

I think we finish realistically at 13-3/14-2 this year or 12-4 at worst. The only games I can see us losing are cow (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=3996)boys, @Saints, @Falcons, Gian (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=567)ts - mostly on the fact that they're road games, and divisional rivals are always tough. I think we lose to one of the divisional and against either Dallas or NY.

What does this say about Seattle? They came within one busted coverage of beating your Panthers?

I know ya don't wanna hear it but playing three home games in a row, hmmmm?

[Avante]

Being as real as possible.

Legit SB contenders.

Pats
Cards
Broncos
Panthers
Packers
Bengals

Would need some help.

Seahawks
Steelers....Big Ben to Brown the most lethal weapon in football.

Nobody other than those mentioned have a chance.

[Avante]

As you've all noticed I need time before formulating an opinion, no game to game here, that's what rookies do.

It is time to give Cam Newton some props. He's having a great season ...so far. Which goes with my...give things some time....song n' dance.

People forget there was a time when the belief was it takes about 4-5 years for an NFL QB to get it. Then here came Big Ben, Peyton Manning, etc. Well with some it does take longer, I think we are seeing that with Newton and he's doing it without Benjamin, imagine if he were there.

No I don't see the Panthers playing in the 2015 SB, but with Benjamin back in 2016, maybe a stud free agent or some rookie.....hmmm?

[Avante]

As of right now I only see one game I really like, that would be Philly -6.5.

Miami in a third road game, not a good "spot" for anyone.

I'm plus $1000, so will play 110 to win a 100.

[SpursforSix]

Saints -1.5
Ravens -6
Carolina -4.5
Cowboys pick

[Avante]

Saints -1.5
Ravens -6
Carolina -4.5
Cowboys pick

Yes I lost also, but I did lose my QB. So in comes Sanchez ...INT.

Dude, what do you look at when losing all the games you do? Have you ever had a winning week? 1-3 AGAIN!!!!!

Little fella, like I told you unless you do some homework with stats/trends you wilo lose your ass, you cannot win at this any other way, trust me! It's hard enought with all the stats/trends.....ok?

[SpursforSix]

Yes I lost also, but I did lose my QB. So in comes Sanchez ...INT.

Dude, what do you look at when losing all the games you do? Have you ever had a winning week? 1-3 AGAIN!!!!!

Little fella, like I told you unless you do some homework with stats/trends you wilo lose your ass, you cannot win at this any other way, trust me! It's hard enought with all the stats/trends.....ok?

You think that I...???? Cowboys? Saints? JahjaHh haha
My kid tries but she just doesn't have it does she???

Sheesh...

[Avante]

You think that I...???? Cowboys? Saints? JahjaHh haha
My kid tries but she just doesn't have it does she???

Sheesh...

Why do you post on a football board when it's real obvious ya know...0...about the game?

[Avante]

What we know for sure.

Alabama could score 24 on that Saints D.

The Vikes know what wins....stud RB, play D.

Packers miss Jordy Nelson.

Peyton Manning is either injured or old.

RGIII is done as an NFL starter.

The Panthers are for real.


The Raiders will be in the mix in 2016.

Kaepernick needs a new team.

Antonio Brown the best WR in the game.

Gronk is on his way to being the best TE ever.

[Avante]

People, it's 2006, the Giants are 6-2, they would lose the next 4.

It's 2011, the Chargers are cooking at 4-1 they would lose the next 6.

And it goes on and on.....

Also in 2011, the Buc's are smoking at 4-2, they would end up...4=12.

It's 2012, the Cards are 4-0, they'd end up...5-11.

I bet ya don't get it, huh?

[SpursforSix]

what we know...the Cowboys miss a lot of tackles. A lot.

[Avante]

Is this the week the Panthers simply don't have it? The Redskins in desperation mode, the Panthers are not.

Time to sit Peyton Manning and call it a career. No need to watch him become a joke, because most fans only care about the now.

Only Russell Wilson could play QB behind that o line.

Only Tom Brady is a consistant QB in 2015.

Never seen so many dogs win as they did this week.

Smart move making Manziel the starter, why not?

Anyone still think the Saints are a playoff team?

Speaking of "spots', the worst team in the league coming off a bye.....Seahawks. Add another loss. One of the worst prime time teams....Bengals, add another loss.

Hmmmmm?

The Pats pick up Dri Archer, in the AFC Championship game vs the Steelers. he wins the game in OT with the ko return.

[johnsmith]

what thoughts entered your mind when you removed her diaper?

Lol


You really this totally stupid?

Worst comeback ever

[Avante]

Lol



Worst comeback ever

When ya encounter someone talking aout removing diapers just how creative do you need to be? They goofed the minute they posted something that stupid.

So a Hong Kong bar had a baby in a diaper hustling drinks....right?


Dude, are you really as fucked up as you appear?

[Avante]

Black QB's, hmmm?

Undefeated Panthers.
Vikes leading the division
Clemson, Ohio State, ND three of the top 4 NCAA teams.

How many years have we seen a black QB in either the SB or the NCAA title game or both?

[johnsmith]

When ya encounter someone talking aout removing diapers just how creative do you need to be? They goofed the minute they posted something that stupid.

So a Hong Kong bar had a baby in a diaper hustling drinks....right?


Dude, are you really as fucked up as you appear?

Makes no sense related to what I said. You're dumb....and predictable....and unoriginal.

[Avante]

Makes no sense related to what I said. You're dumb....and predictable....and unoriginal.

The old..."damn this Avante, knows a lot about things, no doubt he knows more about my Broncos than I do, so I must mess with him".....hahaha!!!!!!!!

Little queer, all these threads and where do you always end up, yep, on my leg humping away, hahaha!!!!!!!

Stupid, ever heard of Charlie Mitchell, how about Billy Joe? And you call yourself a Broncos fan, sheesh~~~~~~

Dude, you ever talk to anyone else here besides Avante?

[johnsmith]

The old..."damn this Avante, knows a lot about things, no doubt he knows more about my Broncos than I do, so I must mess with him".....hahaha!!!!!!!!

Little queer, all these threads and where do you always end up, yep, on my leg humping away, hahaha!!!!!!!

Stupid, ever heard of Charlie Mitchell, how about Billy Joe? And you call yourself a Broncos fan, sheesh~~~~~~

Dude, you ever talk to anyone else here besides Avante?


You're boring

[Avante]

You're boring

I bet I am, since you know nothing about what I talk about.

Look at yourself little man, ya only come to my threads and then complain and whine, hahahaha!!!!!! What a fucking freak.

Faggot, start a thread all your very own, can ya do it?

[johnsmith]

I bet I am, since you know nothing about what I talk about.

Look at yourself little man, ya only come to my threads and then complain and whine, hahahaha!!!!!! What a fucking freak.

Faggot, start a thread all your very own, can ya do it?


I'm tiring of you

[Avante]

I'm tiring of you

Well actually ya little fuck it's not suppose to be about Avante, this forum is about football not me so why do you come here talking about Avante all the time? Why not talk...FOOTBALL...ok faggot?

And, you are so obviously fucked why bother me/anyone, well?

Imagine a little freak who never does shit here but hump my leg, how sad is that?

[johnsmith]

Well actually ya little fuck it's not suppose to be about Avante, this forum is about football not me so why do you come here talking about Avante all the time? Why not talk...FOOTBALL...ok faggot?

And, you are so obviously fucked why bother me/anyone, well?

Imagine a little freak who never does shit here but hump my leg, how sad is that?

*yawn

[chunticakes]

Oakland
NYJ
Chicago
Minnesota
Buffalo

[Avante]

Oakland
NYJ
Chicago
Minnesota
Buffalo

I'll play 110 to win 100.

Philly - 5.5
Chi- 1
Balt -2

Talk me into Buffalo on MNF.

Plus $890 as of right bow.

[Avante]

Plus $ 780

Will play 110 to win 100

NYG - 2
Hous- 3
Min + 2
KC - 5

[Avante]

It does get easier, 3-1 and plus $970.

The Giants were 4-0 last 4 in this "spot". Beat Wash 45-14 last time at Wash. Not sure where I fucked up with that one. Save.."all those trends mean nothing"....since I won 3 of 4 using those trends/stats and "spots".

A master at work.

[Avante]

Heading into December ya want to look at teams playing for their playoff life vs those out of it. Key word....motivation.

Stay away from games between teams with no playoff hopes, because ya don't know what ya might get.

Under Bruce Arians the Cards are 5-2-1 ATS, they rise to the occasion in December.

The Vikes a great Dec ATS team, going 6-2 the last two seasons.

The Jets at 6-1-1 in this "spot".

Steelers at 7-1.

Seahawks at 6-1-1.

Those who suck?

Titans at 0-6-2

Eagles at 2-6

Raiders 2-6

Saints 2-6

Dolphins 2-6

Lions 2-6

Just another tool in your box. You can never know too much.

I do get a kick out of those who..."ah hell, that shit doesn't mean anything"....ha~~~~~ That's a fucking rookie, because they mean everything. I use nothing but trends/stats/"spots".

It is funny watching this, ha~~~~~ Nobody really wants to talk about winning, just when ya lose, ha~~~~~~~

[Avante]

Now ya know why I preach.....SLOW DOWN!!!!!!!!

Falcons were 5-0, what happened?
Packers started off 6-0, have lost 4 of the last 5.
Texans started out 1-4, have won 5 of last 6.
Chiefs started out 1-4, have won 5 in a row.
Jets were 4-1, now...6-5
Seattle was 2-4, now 6-5

Hopefully ya learned something.

[HarlemHeat37]

Nice work, A..

[Avante]

Nice work, A..

Thank ya sir, appreciate that.

[Avante]

It was who is the best, RGIII, Andrew Luck or Russell Wilson?

Now RGIII is riding a bench, we are hearing about keeping an old man in over Luck as RW is throwing five TD's in a game. One play away from winning two SB's.

[Avante]

According to a ponts system I use, the NFL Power Ranking Top 10.

1.Carolina 51
2.NE 46
3.Ariz 46
4.Cincy 45
5.Den 43
6.Minnesota 42
7.KC 40
8.Houston 36
9.Seattle 32
10.GB 32/Pitt 32

[SpursforSix]

According to a ponts system I use, the NFL Power Ranking Top 10.

1.Carolina 51
2.NE 46
3.Ariz 46
4.Cincy 45
5.Den 43
6.Minnesota 42
7.KC 40
8.Houston 36
9.Seattle 32
10.GB 32/Pitt 32

can you apply that system to bluesmen? or sprinters?

I'd be interested in a Fantasy Blues league where each week, a team of bluesmen goes up against another. Stats could be things like: technical efficiency, voice, songwriting, hard living, and blackness.
Since a lot of them are dead, it would be difficult to get them to face off in real life. So I would assign each of them a football player from the NFL. And that would dictate what their statistics were each week.
So...you could assign Brady to Robert Johnson. And each NFL stat to a blue stat. So, passing yards could be blackness for example.

[Avante]

can you apply that system to bluesmen? or sprinters?

I'd be interested in a Fantasy Blues league where each week, a team of bluesmen goes up against another. Stats could be things like: technical efficiency, voice, songwriting, hard living, and blackness.
Since a lot of them are dead, it would be difficult to get them to face off in real life. So I would assign each of them a football player from the NFL. And that would dictate what their statistics were each week.
So...you could assign Brady to Robert Johnson. And each NFL stat to a blue stat. So, passing yards could be blackness for example.

I get the fact you're trying to do your little dumb kid routine but I never pass up a chance to talk them blues/sprinting. You struggle with those who know their stuff, as do most.

Would you believe when it comes to RB's/blues/sprinting as a combo I am the worlds authority on that as a trio? I have it totally/completely/100% covered. I have no equal.

When it comes to sprinting ya go with honors won/longevity at the top and WR's. Obviously these guys today are now able to run into their 30's because of professionalism, something the old timers couldn't do. So we also have to consider dominance of era there.

When it comes to them blues we must look at prewar and postwar. Things changed dramatically with the advent of the electric guitar and southern blacks moving north.

The Mount Rushmore of sprinting....Usian Bolt, Bob Hayes, Michael Johnson, Carl Lewis.
The Mount Rushmore of them blues.....B.B. King, Bessie Smith, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters.

If I were you or anyone actually I'd enjoy the fact you have someone like me around, take a student's approach, see what ya cah learn instead of acting goofy over this. But ya won't, you'll come back acting stupid as usual.

[SpursforSix]

I get the fact you're trying to do your little dumb kid routine but I never pass up a chance to talk them blues/sprinting. You struggle with those who know their stuff, as do most.

Would you believe when it comes to RB's/blues/sprinting as a combo I am the worlds authority on that as a trio? I have it totally/completely/100% covered. I have no equal.

When it comes to sprinting ya go with honors won/longevity at the top and WR's. Obviously these guys today are now able to run into their 30's because of professionalism, something the old timers couldn't do. So we also have to consider dominance of era there.

When it comes to them blues we must look at prewar and postwar. Things changed dramatically with the advent of the electric guitar and southern blacks moving north.

The Mount Rushmore of sprinting....Usian Bolt, Bob Hayes, Michael Johnson, Carl Lewis.
The Mount Rushmore of them blues.....B.B. King, Bessie Smith, Robert Johnson, Muddy Waters.

If I were you or anyone actually I'd enjoy the fact you have someone like me around, take a student's approach, see what ya cah learn instead of acting goofy over this. But ya won't, you'll come back acting stupid as usual.

http://i.imgur.com/yqmWcoW.png

[Avante]

I do have fun with this, obviously. Little shits like you who simply can't grasp the concept that here is the real deal, that guy who knows all there is know about the things I talk about, cracks me up. So it always starts out the same...."yeah right, you Googled that"....hahahaha!!!! Then as time goes on they FINALLY figure it out, yep, this cat knows his stuff....DAMN!!!!

Ha~~~~~~~~~

Dude, I was the moderator at the world famous SUB10 Messageboard, the top sprint (the owner of the site closed it because of health reasons) site on the internet. I am the most knowledgeable person there is when it comes to the who, what, where and when pertaining to them blues, football and track, ok? So embrace it, don't fight it, ok?

I said this after 2013, "you will now get my legit $$$$ making ATS plays "...finally. Since then plus over $3000.

Smart move giving it up trying to hang with me.

[Darth_Pelican]

I do have fun with this, obviously. Little shits like you who simply can't grasp the concept that here it the real deal, that guy who knows all there is know about the things I talk about. So it always starts out the same...."yeah right, you Googled that"....hahahaha!!!! Then as time goes on they FINALLY figurte it out, yep, this cat knows his stuff....DAMN!!!!

Ha~~~~~~~~~

Dude, I was the moderator at the world famous SUB10 Messageboard, the top sprint (the owner of the site closed it because of health reasons) site on the internet. I am the most knowledgeable person there is when it comes to the who, what, where and when pertaining to them blues, football and track, ok? So embrace it, don't fight it, ok?

Why do you constantly feel the need to tell a bunch of people who are at least half your age how smart you think you are about certain topics? Are you striving for some kind of validation or self gratification by 20-35 year olds?

[Avante]

Why do you constantly feel the need to tell a bunch of people who are at least half your age how smart you think you are about certain topics? Are you striving for some kind of validation or self gratification by 20-35 year olds?

You said it right there with..."you think you are". As long as I get that sort of response I'll continue to do what I do. Why this need to play that when it's real obvious I can talk about things nobody else here can? Well?

Talk to me about the Malone brothers, Art and Benny, how about the Bates brothers, one was Marion a RB for your Saints.

You like most have some need to fight it, why?

[SpursforSix]

You said it right there with..."you think you are". As long as I get that sort of response I'll continue to do what I do. Why this need to play that when it's real obvious I can talk about things nobody else here can? Well?

Talk to me about the Malone brothers, Art and Benny, how about the Bates brothers, one was Marion a RB for your Saints.

You like most have some need to fight it, why?

http://i.imgur.com/U1Tx2mw.png

[Avante]

Poor little guy, not a clue.

[Avante]

I have never seen a season with so many name players have missed games due to injuries. It's getting weird.

Have we gotten too big, too fast, too strong to play football anymore? Keep in mind when the game first came about a big man was 220 pounds and nobody was running a sub 4.6.

Big Ben
Tony Romo
Joe Flacco
La'Veon Bell
Dez Bryant
Gronk
Julian Edelman
Danny Amandoela
Dion Lewis
Jamall Charles
Carlos Hyde
Peyton Manning
Steve Smith
Kelvin Benjamin
Reggie Bush
Julio Jones
Justin Forsett
Matt Forte
Arian Foster
Heath Miller
Antonio Gates
Jimmy Graham
Terrell Suggs
Vernon Davis

and all those I'm forgetting.

When I start searching for ATS "spots" I've never had to factor in injury like I have in 2015 before. It 's becoming part of the process more so than ever.

Frank "Brusier" Kinard was a beast in 1938, a 210 pound ........offensive tackle. He is in the HOF.

[Avante]

Adrian Peterson now has more rushing yards than O.J.Simpson.

Simpson was probably the fastest back ever up to his point in time. He was a legit 9.4 (WR 9.1) guy who ran a leg on USC's WR4x1 team. Also placed in the NCAA indoor 60. He had a lot of speed for a RB, usuallly that kind of speed is a wide receiver. And it was rare for a guy around 210ish to be that fast and elusive.

[Pelicans78]

You said it right there with..."you think you are". As long as I get that sort of response I'll continue to do what I do. Why this need to play that when it's real obvious I can talk about things nobody else here can? Well?

Talk to me about the Malone brothers, Art and Benny, how about the Bates brothers, one was Marion a RB for your Saints.

You like most have some need to fight it, why?

It's Mario Bates not Marion you dumbass. You're thinking of Marion Butts who came out of FSU and was a Pro Bowler for the Chargers. Mario Bates was a 2nd round bust for the Saints. He was fast but soft between the tackles. Only thing he is known for in NOLA is getting his jaw broken by Lorenzo Neal in a bar fight.

[Avante]

It's Mario Bates not Marion you dumbass. You're thinking of Marion Butts who came out of FSU and was a Pro Bowler for the Chargers. Mario Bates was a 2nd round bust for the Saints. He was fast but soft between the tackles. Only thing he is known for in NOLA is getting his jaw broken by Lorenzo Neal in a bar fight.

Didn't I mention ..THE BATES BROTHERS...ya stupid fuck? Tell me dummy who was Marion Butts NFL playing brother? Getting back to Mario who was his brother? And, when did Marion Butts play for the Saints?

Fucking idiot~~~~~~

[Pelicans78]

Didn't I mention ..THE BATES BROTHERS...ya stupid fuck? Tell me dummy who was Marion Butts NFL playing brother? Getting back to Mario who was his brother? And, when did Marion Butts play for the Saints?

Fucking idiot~~~~~~

You said Marion Bates. His name is Mario Bates.

[Pelicans78]

You said Marion Bates. His name is Mario Bates.

You really gonna ask me who Michael Bates is?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

You really gonna ask me who Michael Bates is?

Good luck this coming weekend. The dome is the only place Newton hasn't figured out yet. He plays terrible in there.

[Avante]

You said Marion Bates. His name is Mario Bates.

Who is Marion Bates? Dude, it wasn't real obvious I meant Mario, come on guy.

[Avante]

You really gonna ask me who Michael Bates is?

Well yeah, since I have doubts ya know much about this stuff.

So what is Michael Bates known for?

[Avante]

Being a trends/stats player trying to find "spots" where one team has a huge advantage is really getting hard to do because of the overwelming amount of injuries this season. I'm having to work too hard to search out who is out and who is back. Thinking about taking my 900 and change and pocket it until the playoffs. Debating it.

I've never seen as many star players missing time due to injury like I have in 2015. So many injuries, why?

[SpursforSix]

Being a trends/stats player trying to find "spots" where one team has a huge advantage is really getting hard to do because of the overwelming amount of injuries this season. I'm having to work too hard to search out who is out and who is back. Thinking about taking my 900 and change and pocket it until the playoffs. Debating it.

I've never seen as many star players missing time due to injury like I have in 2015. So many injuries, why?

bend over, I'll show you missing time due to injury

[Avante]

bend over, I'll show you missing time due to injury

So ya tried to pick ATS and came off looking stupid, why take it out on me? I told ya you'd lose unless ya did research.
It's hard enought knowing all the trends/angles "spots" like I do.

Every season the Vegas Hilton has a pick um contest, talking ATS. Ya know what wins it, around 56%, and these are the pros. And they do the homework.

[SpursforSix]

So ya tried to pick ATS and came off looking stupid, why take it out on me? I told ya you'd lose unless ya did research.
It's hard enought knowing all the trends/angles "spots" like I do.

Every season the Vegas Hilton has a pick um contest, talking ATS. Ya know what wins it, around 56%, and these are the pros. And they do the homework.

letting my daughter get on here and post was a mistake....yep...never do that again...
though it would be fun to let her see...thread about blues and track and field and the shenanigans that go on here...
let her make a few NFL picks and post them...sheesh....
and you think that I....made those...picks?????
zoooooom.

[Avante]

letting my daughter get on here and post was a mistake....yep...never do that again...
though it would be fun to let her see...thread about blues and track and field and the shenanigans that go on here...
let her make a few NFL picks and post them...sheesh....
and you think that I....made those...picks?????
zoooooom.

Well at least ya learned how it was done. You saw that without any knowledge of ATS stats ya stand no chance. It takes me about 4 hours to find 3-5 plays where one team has most the advantages from an ATS perspective.

I'll ignore the stupid bullshit.

Little man, why the stupid clown routine?

[SpursforSix]

Well at least ya learned how it was done. You saw that without any knowledge of ATS stats ya stand no chance. It takes me about 4 hours to find 3-5 plays where one team has most the advantages from an ATS perspective.

I'll ignore the stupid bullshit.

Little man, why the stupid clown routine?

4-5 hours? I spend that just creating a spreadsheet and assembling the data. I don't post all of my picks here. Nope...don't want to advertise how good I really am....I get this betting thing!

It's pretty simple...I do some advanced metrics that you wouldn't understand but also...hey...yesssss...I watch the games.

You can't data crunch or "spot" the fact that Joshua Bumnutter can't cover WR on his left side. So if I know he's going up against Rastus Cridully (who yep...lines up on the right and breaks...yep...to the CB left), I'll give that consideration.
Makes all the difference in a -3 and a -7.

btw, I made up those names so don't bother Googling their high school 40 times.

[Avante]

4-5 hours? I spend that just creating a spreadsheet and assembling the data. I don't post all of my picks here. Nope...don't want to advertise how good I really am....I get this betting thing!

It's pretty simple...I do some advanced metrics that you wouldn't understand but also...hey...yesssss...I watch the games.

You can't data crunch or "spot" the fact that Joshua Bumnutter can't cover WR on his left side. So if I know he's going up against Rastus Cridully (who yep...lines up on the right and breaks...yep...to the CB left), I'll give that consideration.
Makes all the difference in a -3 and a -7.

btw, I made up those names so don't bother Googling their high school 40 times.

Pay attention shorty.

Ya start with home/road. And then what role a team is in. Are they a HF, RD, HD or RF? Now ya need to know how they do in that role in that month.

Colts in December as a HF....8-2 ATS, they are playing the Vikes who as a RD in December are 2-8. That gives the Colts a 16-4 trend. That is very strong. Now ya try to find 3-5 plays that strong, so what are the odds of all of them losing for ya on the same weekend? Not good.

But, ya can't factor in the weather/bad calls/turnovers/injuries, so about the best ya can hope for is 3-2. 6-4.

See ya learned something ya little weirdo.

[SpursforSix]

Pay attention shorty.

Ya start with home/road. And then what role a team is in. Are they a HF, RD, HD or RF? Now ya need to know how they do in that role in that month.

Colts in December as a HF....8-2 ATS, they are playing the Vikes who as a RD in December are 2-8. That gives the Colts a 16-4 trend. That is very strong. Now ya try to find 3-5 plays that strong, so what are the odds of all of them losing for ya on the same weekend? Not good.

But, ya can't factor in the weather/bad calls/turnovers/injuries, so about the best ya can hope for is 3-2. 6-4.

See ya learned something ya little weirdo.

trust me...ya don't want to go with a high octane passing offense when it's sleeting...yep...hard to throw the ball...
look for a good run defense in that situation...yep...nice "spot" when ya don't have to worry about Monkey Jones running deep

my advance metrics take in to account injuries...yep...it'll predict them often...
it knows how heavy each player is and what his BMI is...how fast they run...yep...
bigger and faster doesn't mean 16 games...

and stop calling me Shirly

[Avante]

trust me...ya don't want to go with a high octane passing offense when it's sleeting...yep...hard to throw the ball...
look for a good run defense in that situation...yep...nice "spot" when ya don't have to worry about Monkey Jones running deep

my advance metrics take in to account injuries...yep...it'll predict them often...
it knows how heavy each player is and what his BMI is...how fast they run...yep...
bigger and faster doesn't mean 16 games...

and stop calling me Shirly

I'm guessing your trip is..."see see see me everyone see how I troll Avante, I'm a funny guy, huh?"....right? It's not working little guy, ok? Ya come off looking fucking retarded, ok?

Little man, there is nobody out there who compares to me when it comes to the who, what, where and when in football, ok? So why not embrace it and learn something instead of this deranged clown bullshit, well? Why looked retarded?

Who do you know that can talk Andy Hopkins that 9.2 sprinter out of SFAustin who ended up srarring in the CFL? I'm the guy little fella why fight it?

My favorite is this.

poster...you stupid fuck the world record is 9.58.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[SpursforSix]

I'm guessing your trip is..."see see see me everyone see how I troll Avante, I'm a funny guy, huh?"....right? It's not working little guy, ok? Ya come off looking fucking retarded, ok?

Little man, there is nobody out there who compares to me when it comes to the who, what, where and when in football, ok? So why not embrace it and learn something instead of this deranged clown bullshit, well? Why looked retarded?

Who do you know that can talk Andy Hopkins that 9.2 sprinter out of SFAustin who ended up srarring in the CFL? I'm the guy little fella why fight it?

My favorite is this.

poster...you stupid fuck the world record is 9.58.

Hahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bend over, I'll show you deranged clown.

[Avante]

Bend over, I'll show you deranged clown.

Come on little guy, you really this fucked up?

[SpursforSix]

Come on little guy, you really this fucked up?

Do you ever get your dinky cut by their braces?

[Avante]

Do you ever get your dinky cut by their braces?

Little guy, why all this silly immature bullshit? You really this lonely?

This is a football forum ya weirdo, ok? I realize ya don't know shit about it so why do you post on this forum, oh yeah...Avante.

[Avante]

A very big game Sunday, Seahawks vs Vikes, as of right now it's a pick um.

[SpursforSix]

A very big game Sunday, Seahawks vs Vikes, as of right now it's a pick um.

That's dumb. My metrics say Vikings by a fart and a kiss.

[Avante]

That's dumb. My metrics say Vikings by a fart and a kiss.

Do I really have to demote you down to the level of a Blake guy and just start ignoring you?

[SpursforSix]

Do I really have to demote you down to the level of a Blake guy and just start ignoring you?

are you just looking for a way to duck the talk of what you did over there to those children?

[SpursforSix]

but I digress...have your dumb football picks forum back

[Avante]

are you just looking for a way to duck the talk of what you did over there to those children?

I could have been a serial killer, this is a football forum, ok? We talk football here, ok ya dumb fuck?

[Avante]

but I digress...have your dumb football picks forum back

It was funny you thinking you could hang with me with ATS picks, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!! Too stupid to realize ya do need your homework.

[Avante]

Watching this HS (tape) game. Kid runs the opening kickoff back 99 yards to score***. The next time he gets the ball on a punt return he runs that back for a TD, damn!!!!! Kyle Williams Vista Murrieta here in Cai. The kid is smooth and fast.


*** acctually stepped on the goal line so it should have been called back.

[SpursforSix]

Watching this HS (tape) game. Kid runs the opening kickoff back 99 yards to score***. The next time he gets the ball on a punt return he runs that back for a TD, damn!!!!! Kyle Williams Vista Murrieta here in Cai. The kid is smooth and fast.


*** acctually stepped on the goal line so it should have been called back.

bend over, I'll show you smooth and fast

[Avante]

bend over, I'll show you smooth and fast

Just how totally fucked up are you guy? Ok man, starting right now you are dead to me. Like that other retard Blake you wll be ignored. You're simply too fucked up to mess with.

Good bye~~~~~

[SpursforSix]

Just how totally fucked up are you guy? Ok man, starting right now you are dead to me. Like that other retard Blake you wll be ignored. You're simply too fucked up to mess with.

Good bye~~~~~

Good bye lil' buddy.

[Avante]

Let's break down Seattle vs Vikes.

Seattle has played GB/Cincy/Carolina/Ariz/Pitt, that's tough.

Vikes have played Denver, GB, KC.

So the Seahawks have played the tougher schedule.

Obviously RW is a better QB than Bridgewater.

Seattle is a plus 45, Vikes a plus 37 when it comes to PS/PA.

Would ya believe that under Pete Carroll the Seahawks have never lost a week 13 game?

The Seahawks are used to the preasure of a playoff run, these Vikes aren't.

[Avante]

Ok. plus $970

Will play 110 to win 100

Caro - 7
TB -2
Chicago - 7

I really like this Rawls kid with Seattle, he's averaging over 5 yards a carry.

[chunticakes]

Bend over, I'll show you deranged clown.

I laughed more than I should @ that man lol

[Avante]

I laughed more than I should @ that man lol

It is funny watching how the kids here act around those of us who actually know this stuff. That freak had no clue.

[Avante]

Will play 220 to win 200 and back the Steelers - 7.

[Avante]

Now next season remember this season. Remember how the Falcons were red hot, remember how the Seahawks were freezing cold. Remember how the Chiefs were once 1-3 and the Jets were 3-1.

SLOW DOWN....and give things some time, ok? The Seahawks have gone 5-1 in the last 6, the Chiefs have won 6 in a row.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

How can the Seahawks win without BEAST MODE, hahaha~~~~~~ How many TD's has RW thrown for in the last few weeks?

In the RW era the Seahawks have gone.

2012...4-0
2013..2-2
2014...4-0

Or 10-2 in December in the reg season.

Should beat...

at Balt...no QB
Clev...no QB
St.Louis...no QB
by now Arizona might be resting players, so a possible win here also.

11-5 a very real possibility.

[Avante]

In another couple seasons Stanfords "Whire Lightning" Christian McCaffrey will be an NFL player. We have to go back to the days of Lance Alworth to find another white player who is the fastest guy on the field. And he runs like Alworth, he has the same style. A glider.

At the NFL level it'd make no sense to use that speed to bang a line, so it would make sense to put him in the slot. Get him out in space.

[Avante]

Another winning week, so plus $1050.

Haha~~~~~

Looking ahead to week 14.

First thing ya do is get off Carolina, they are in and anyone nursing any ailment at all will sit. Never bet a team in the playoffs those last few weeks.

Green Bay at home needing it bad vs a Cowboys team runing out a season.

Denver is 6-0-1 last 8 vs Oakland. They need the game.

Chiefs at home in serious playoffs mode vs a Charger team really sucking now.

Bucs at home vs a Saints team knowing it's over now.

Jets in the hunt and are 7-2ATS last 9 vs Titans.

Seattle is cooking right now, the Ravens aren't.

[chunticakes]

Another winning week, so plus $1050.

Haha~~~~~

Looking ahead to week 14.

First thing ya do is get off Carolina, they are in and anyone nursing any ailment at all will sit. Never bet a team in the playoffs those last few weeks.

Green Bay at home needing it bad vs a Cowboys team runing out a season.

Denver is 6-0-1 last 8 vs Oakland. They need the game.

Chiefs at home in serious playoffs mode vs a Charger team really sucking now.

Bucs at home vs a Saints team knowing it's over now.

Jets in the hunt and are 7-2ATS last 9 vs Titans.

Seattle is cooking right now, the Ravens aren't.

Thinking of taking Washington -3.5 at home today. They're still fighting for a playoff spot and Dallas for all intents and purposes is dead. What do you think?

[Avante]

Thinking of taking Washington -3.5 at home today. They're still fighting for a playoff spot and Dallas for all intents and purposes is dead. What do you think?

Dallas is 1-9 ATS last 10 on MNF. But as a HF the Skins are a woeful 5-10 in that "spot" on MNF. If I had to play the game I'd lay the number but since I don't I can't play a 5-10 trend.

I do get where you're coming from however. The motivation thing is huge, the Cowboys know it's over for them in 2015.

I'm like you in that I like some action on these games, that's why I played the Steelers last night, but there all the numbers screamed...STEELERS IN A ROUT. That isn't the case tonight.

[chunticakes]

Dallas is 1-9 ATS last 10 on MNF. But as a HF the Skins are a woeful 5-10 in that "spot" on MNF. If I had to play the game I'd lay the number but since I don't I can't play a 5-10 trend.

I do get where you're coming from however. The motivation thing is huge, the Cowboys know it's over for them in 2015.

I'm like you in that I like some action on these games, that's why I played the Steelers last night, but there all the numbers screamed...STEELERS IN A ROUT. That isn't the case tonight.

The 1-9 sold me. Doing it...

[Avante]

The 1-9 sold me. Doing it...

I can see the play, I'm just too cautious for my own good and I know it. I need too many stars in perfect alinement.

[Avante]

Ok, plus $1050

What the fuck? The trends tell me the Vikes are the play, my gut tells me it's the Cards. Being I'm playing with their $$$$ I'll lay the 7.5 and go with the Cards tonight.

If I lose it will because I ignored the fact Arizona sucks ATS on TNF. If I win I will feel a little lucky.

What am I bucking?

Cards 1-4 SU, 1-4 ATS on TNF. At home..0-2. As a fav...0-2.

Vikes 3-0 ATS TNF coming off a loss.

I never go against numbers that strong. I just have a feeling.

[spurraider21]

nice play

[Avante]

nice play

Why ignore what I said? The play was Minnesota as I mentioned. Now tell me little man, how many Vikings were out of that game? As you saw the Cards did what I said they would, they suck on TNF. I just thought the fact the Vikes were without 4 starters would make the difference.

Where were you when I was winning 1050? and now $940? And where will you be when I end up having "another" winning week?

Since last season (here) plus $ 3040. HA~~~~~~~~~~~

It was funny watching you last season..."ok ok ya won again"....in a thread you made to poke fun at my picks, ha~~~~~~~

I went from-330 the first week to plus $2100. Yep, a master at work.

[Avante]

Ok plus $ 940

Will play 220 to win 200.

GB -7

Packers are one of the best December teams in the league. Dallas on the road again. Now add GB 3-1 ATS last 4 vs Cowboys. Knowing the Vikes lost already some added motivation for the Packers.

Only game where the home team has a number I like. Don't like playing road teams in December.

GB 47-26 as a December fav since 1990, that is the best in the league. Cowboys as a dog 22-21.

Now add the favorite when these two meet is 15-5 ATS last 20.

So we have a GB 83--53 trend, that is very strong.

Also...Matt Cassell vs Aaron Rodgers

And....GB played last Thursday, the Cowboys on MNF. That's a biggie at the NFL level.

[Avante]

Thomas Rawls!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

This just too easy.

Ok ANOTHER winning week, so plus $1140.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

How many TD's has RW thrown for in the last 4 games? How in the hell is he doing that without BEAST MODE, ha~~~~~~

It's looking like...

Pats vs Steelers
Cards vs Seahawks

..to me.

This is ridiculous

Out due to injury

Tony Romo
Gronk
Arian Foster
Andy Dalton
Joe Flacco
La' Veon Bell
Big Ben
Chris Johnson
Julian Edelman
Dion Lewis
Jamaal Charles
Marshawn Lynch
Thomas Rawls
Darrell Revis
Justin Forsett
Matt Forte
Carlos Hyde
Jimmy Graham
Andrew Luck
Dez Bryant
Jordy Nelson

and all those I'm forgetting.

[Avante]

So here I sit plus $ 1140 and RW looking fantastic, hahaha~~~~~ Anyone still not getting it?

Russell Wilson is 50-18 in his career, no QB in history compares to that in their first 68 games.

Just think, he won a playoff game as a rookie, won it all in his second season. a yard away from winning it all in his third and now in his 4th season he's looking better than ever. Whoa~~~~~

RW career

comp %...64.7
TD/INT...98/33
QB rating...101.3
rushing yards...2, 333 and 12 TD's

What QB in NFL history compares to that in their first 68 games?

[Avante]

The only QB to be in the Heisman race was black.

The number one NCAA team has a black QB.

Last seasons NCAA champion had two black QB's.

The only undefeated NFL team has a black QB.

The only QB to play in the last two SB was a black QB.

[Avante]

As of right now RW has a career passer rating of 101.3, curious what the greats have.

Joe Montana 92.3
Dan Marino 86.4
Brett Favre 86.0
Tom Brady 96.4
Peyton Manning 96.5
Drew Brees 95.6

[Avante]

The last three weeks of the reg season start looking at the weather and teams where winning means little as far as playoff seeding goes. Ya want home teams in decent weather who must have the game and are laying less than 8, if ya can find them. The weather a big deal (obviously talking outdoors) from here on out.

A potential play I'm looking at....

Detroit at NO next Monday night. The Lions are out of it, the Saints have gone 10-2 SU in this "spot" the last 12, as we know the Lions suck on the road. The Saints are also 5-0 last 5 ATS vs the Lions.

[Avante]

The Seahawks have brought Christian Michael back, smart move. He averaged 4.6 as a Seahawk, that will work. And they have the worst run defense in the NFL this week to get him back up to speed.

[Avante]

Just another tool in your box.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

Check out points scored/given up and home/road.

Check out the Jets vs Cowboys numbers. Notice the Jets are better on the road than the Cowboys are at home? Notice the Jets score far more than they give up while the Cowboys give up more than they score.

I will lay the 3 with the Jets tomorrow night, play 110 to win 100.

The game is a ..MUST WIN...for the Jets, the Cowboys are done and know it.

Jets 3-3 on the road, Cowboys 1-5 at home.
Jets plus 69, Cowboys minus 75
Jets 4-2 last 6, Cowboys 2-4

All the numbers say the same thing.....JETS!

[Avante]

Andrew Luck has 12 INT's this season in far less games than RW who has ...7.

Anyone still think this is a legit debate?

[Avante]

A missed extra point, sheesh~~~~~~ Ok, that was a push.

So plus $1140 and will play 110 to win 100

Buff - 1
Pitt-6
Seattle - 14.5...This is the largest number I have ever played in the NFL. The Browns on the road vs a Seattle team that has been red hot looking for playoff seeding I got no problems seeing....Seahawks 32 Browns 10.

Seattle a plus 110 team, the Browns a minus 117.

[Avante]

ANOTHER winning week.

So that's plus $1230.

A master at work, ha~~~~~~~~

Will play the minumin 60 to win 50 with the Saints tomorrow night. It's either win 140 or win 30. Bottom line...I win~~~~

NO - 3

[Avante]

I was thinking the Saints still had a very remote shot at the playoffs. nope. So I won't be playing this game, can't play a game where neither team has any reason to win a game.

So plus $1230

So ya wanna lay off all those teams assured of a playoff spot, they will begin to sit people.

You wanna search out "spots" where one of the teams MUST have the game.

Look at yesterday, the Seahawks needed one more win to get in, and the Steelers at home in a must win situation. Both winners for me. Buffalo had to have it but so did the Redskins, why I went with the road team.....DUH~~~~~~

Pitt, KC and the Jets all in MUST WIN situations, as are all the teams in the NFC East except Dallas.

[Avante]

I was just a little kid when I first saw the huge difference between blacks and whites. As fast as I was, they were faster. They are fantastic athletes if it takes, speed, agility and leaping ability. BUT....they make some of the dumbest decisions ever seen. So many totally stupid penalties, and just dumb moves in everything they do. It's as if they aren't thinking at all.

Doesn't Odell Beckman know about cameras? Did he really think he could pull all that stupid shit and nobody would see it a thousand times on TV? What will all those companies he's hawking think? Where is RGIII when it comes to endorsements?

I'm sure I'm not the only one who has thought....."but we have to have them because they can run, but damn they make some stupid mistakes".

[Avante]

It appears Calvin Johnson is questionable, which means he will play but how effective can he be?

Fuck it.

Ok will lay the 3 with NO and wimp out 60 to win 50. Don't like the game but since I'm playing with house $$$$ (as I have for the last 20 years)...might as well.

[Avante]

I can see some of you are back to playing this....one game so let me over react.....hahahahaha!!!!!!! Come on people ya haven't learned anything by now?

Pay no attention (other than injuries) of any kind to teams that are in the playoffs, ok? OK? You should know this. Notice how...

Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Cam Newton
RW

...all lost today? Now think just a little bit, ok?

The Panthers lost the last game of this...

road
road
home
road
road

....only a moron would criticize that.

There is a reason Aaron Rodgers is a future HOFers, Cam Newton has only lose twice in his last 20 games and RW has been in a playoff game in each of his 4 seasons. And Tom Brady might be the best QB ever.

It is funny watching some of you act stupid over ....one game....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Those of us who understand the game give things some time and never let...a..game get in the way of the body of work.

Remember me saying....

Looking ahead to week 14.

First thing ya do is get off Carolina, they are in and anyone nursing any ailment at all will sit. Never bet a team in the playoffs those last few weeks.

[Avante]

Did Belichick see an opening to rid the playoffs of the Steelers by letting the Jets have the ball?

No no and no, he would never tell his team to lay down, he'd keep it to himself.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Panthers are a good team just not 14-1 good. They could easily be 11-4 which is more realistic. They did get a little lucky and they did play a rinkydink schedule. They are not on a par with Arizona and it's obvious. And there is a reason Seattle has owned them with the exception of a blown coverage.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tom Brady vs....

A.J.McCarron
Old Peyton/youngster
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Alex Smith
Houston?

I like his chances.

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Did Belichick see an opening to rid the playoffs of the Steelers by letting the Jets have the ball?

No no and no, he would never tell his team to lay down, he'd keep it to himself.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The Panthers are a good team just not 14-1 good. They could easily be 11-4 which is more realistic. They did get a little lucky and they did play a rinkydink schedule. They are not on a par with Arizona and it's obvious. And there is a reason Seattle has owned them with the exception of a blown coverage.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Tom Brady vs....

A.J.McCarron
Old Peyton/youngster
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Alex Smith
Houston?

I like his chances.
No they're 14-1 good and AZ is going to get stomped in Charlotte

[Avante]

No they're 14-1 good and AZ is going to get stomped in Charlotte

Ever thought of cooling the little kid hero worship bullshit and actually delving into reality?

The Pathers won 4 games by a combined 14 points. They were one play away from losing all 4. Dude, do you ever deal with real life at all? This silliness you play is so stupid, ok? KEEP IT5 REAL....alright?

Yes the Panthers are a good team in 2015, ok? Just not 14-1 good and only a fool like you would think they are.

Beat...

Sea...thanks to a blown coverage.
Indy by 3
NO by 3
NYG by 3

Ok little fella?

Arizona is going to get....stomped...??????? Watch this half pint.

I'd think getting...STOMPED..would be at least 14 points, right? Ok shorty give me 14 points and I'll take the Cards, deal?

You really can't see that Arizona is the superior team, do you watch the games?

[Avante]

I do get a kick out of watching you guys, hahaha!!!!!!!

How about...KEEP IT REAL~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes Russell Wilson is a great young talent, yes Newton is among the top half dozen QB's in the league. Yes Palmer is having a great season, yes Tom Brady is the best right now. And, yes Aaron Rodgers is a HOF talent.

How anyone couldn't see that....????????????

All this....I just don't like......is stupid, ok? My fav is watching you dummies dumping on black QB's. You really don't see what is going on at the HS/NCAA level, well guess what? That ability to run is a biggie, if ya can't understand that you're dumb, ok? It's far harder to defened a guy with some serious wheels, honest it is and if ya ever played the game you'd know this.

But....it is entertaining watching total morons like Clipper Nation, what a dummy, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Talk about overreacting over one game

[Avante]

Talk about overreacting over one game

Dude, how long have I been saying.....the Panthers played an easy schedule...well? Just keep it real, something you never ever ever do, you're like a little kid with a hero, a little girl at a rock concert who digs the drummer. dead serious. My team the Niners totally suck, that's keeping it real, ok? But....we are one of the top 3 franchises ever, ok? That is keeping it real.

Dude, stop with the silliness and actually look at things as they actually are, ok guy?

With less than a minute to go the Seahawks had ya beat, right? And ya won three more games by three points. Don't act retarded and say ya couldn't have lost all those games, ok?

[Avante]

If we look at points scored vs given up with the playoff teams.

NFC

Cards plus 206
Panthers plus 164
Seahawks plus 116
Vikes plus 56
Pack plus 52
Redskins minus 2

AFC

Pats plus 160
Bengals plus 135 with a game to go
Chiefs plus 112
Jets plus 78
Broncos plus 49 with a game to go
Texans 2

Steelers? plus 88

Both the Redskins and Texans only there because of the sad divisions they play in. And they are stll sucking.

Barring injuries it does look like Pats vs Cards in the SB.

[Avante]

Speaking of wide receivers, each teams best two.

*** both in the HOF or will be

Niners...Jerry Rice/Terrell Owens***
Rams...Isacc Bruce/Torry Holt
Seahawks...Steve Largent/Brian Blades
Cards....Larry Fitzgerald/Roy Green
Panthers...Steve Smith/Mushin Muhammad
Buc's....Mark Carrier/Kevin House
Saints...Marques Colston/Joe Horn
Falcons...Roddy White/Julio Jones
Vikes..Chris Carter/Randy Moss***
Lions...Calvin Johnson/Herman Moore
Bears...Brandon Marshall/Johnnny Morris
Packers...Donald Driver/James Lofton
Redskins...Art Monk/Charley Taylor***
Cowboys...Michael Irvin/Bob Hayes***
Giants...Armani Toomer/Homer Jones
Eagles...Harold Carmichael/Tommy McDonald
Raiders...Tim Brown/Fred Biletnikoff***
Broncos...Rod Smith/Lionel Taylor
Chiefs...Otis Taylor/Henry Marshall
Chargers...Lance Alworth/Charlie Joiner***
Colts...Marvin Harrison/Ray Berry***
Jags...Jimmy Smith/Keenan McCardell
Titans/Oilers...Ernest Givens/Drew Hill
Texans...Andre Johnson/Kevin Walter
Browns...Dante Levelli/Mac Speedie
Bengals...Chad Johnson/Carl Pickens
Ravens...Derrick Mason/Mark Clayton
Steelers...Hines Ward/Antonio Brown
Dolphins...Mark Duper/Mark Clayton
Bills....Andre Reed/Eric Moulds
Jets...Don Maynard/Wesley Walker
Pats...Stanley Morgan/Wes Welker

Can't ignore Paul Warfield a HOFer who played with the Browns and Dolphins. While at Ohio State he was a RB and a world class long jumper.

Bobby Mitchell a one time RB beside Jim Brown in Cleveland, but ended up a HOF receiver with the Redskins. He was a Big10 100/hurdles champ while at Illinois.

John Stallworth and Lynn Swan*** both HOFers with the Steelers.

*** two time Cali State long jump champ while at Serra HS, yep, the same HS Tom Brady attended.

[Avante]

Are we really looking at....

AFC playoff QB's

Bengals...A,J.McCarron
Broncos...Brock Osweiler
Jets...Ryan Fitzpatrick
Chiefs....Alex Smith
Texans...Brandon Weeden

And....Tom Brady

[Pelicans78]

I would rank Joe Horn over Eric Martin. Not sure how you missed that.

[Avante]

I would rank Joe Horn over Eric Martin. Not sure how you missed that.

Talk about being close there it is. And I did have Horn and changed my mind.

Martin

yards...7, 854
rec...532
td's...48

Horn

7, 622
523
50

But, Horn did put up his numbers in less game. So I'm going to agree with you and go back to Horn, will fix it.

[Avante]

How I rank the playoff teams.

1.NE...Belichick/Brady by far the best coach/QB combo
2.Ariz....no weaknesses
3.Seattle...been there/done that lately
4.Carolina...a bit of a fake
5.Bengals....so many weapons
6.Broncos...defense~~~
7.Packers...Aaron Rodgers
8.Chiefs....Andy Reid
9.Jets....defense~~~~~
10.Vikes....one n' done
11.Redskins..one n' done
12.Texans..one n' done

If the Jets lose and the Steelers get in then they'd be ranked above the Packers. Which is why the current system sucks. The Steelers are better than half the teams there.


They need to drop the NFC vs AFC thing and make it to where any two teams can meet in a SB. Just take the top 12 teams, fuck divsions also. Go with points scored if a tie.

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Really like this David Johnson with the Cards, how he ended up at Northern Iowa, ???? A great size with speed combo. He is a bit like Otis Anderson their all time leading rusher.

[Avante]

I'm watching the next Darren Sproles in TT's Jakeem Grant. One of those little guys who would be fantastic in flag football, so quick and elusive. Grant with more straight line speed than Sproles.

Why these teams don't take a Trindon Holliday, Jeff Demps, Dri Archer and stick them in the slot/out in space, and just dink and dunk, all those guiys can make ya miss and go the distance.

[Avante]

Predictions

Oklahoma beats Clemson, with Perine having a huge day.
Alabama beats MSU, with Henry starring.
Arizona wins the NFC
NE wins the AFC
Alabama beats Oklahoma
NE beats Arizona

These Bama players have been there and done that same with these Pats, that can't be said about these Sooners/Cards, that is a biggie.

[chunticakes]

Predictions

Oklahoma beats Clemson, with Perine having a huge day.
Alabama beats MSU, with Henry starring.
Arizona wins the NFC
NE wins the AFC
Alabama beats Oklahoma
NE beats Arizona

These Bama players have been there and done that same with these Pats, that can't be said about these Sooners/Cards, that is a biggie.

Give me 5 picks for tomorrow. I got a lot of money riding on five picks tomorrow for a pick em league.

[chunticakes]

spurraider21 I'm #4 in Rhino with 5 picks left for tomorrow. The #1 overall guy already clinched, he's 66-34, I'm currently 59-36. I can either jump up to as high as #2 or fall out of the top 5 with my pics tomorrow. :lol

[Avante]

Give me 5 picks for tomorrow. I got a lot of money riding on five picks tomorrow for a pick em league.

I don't play it that way.

Right now it's real important I head into the playoffs with house $$$$, I'm up a little over a $1000, and want to stay that way. The only play I'll step out on is Pitt - 10, they need the game, are at home vs a back up QB. Will play 110 to win 100.

I can give up some "spots" that favor a team.

ATS

Cincy 5-1 vs Ravens
Skins 7-1 vs Dallas
Lions 5-1 vs Chicago
GB 5-1 vs Vikes
Seattle 4-1 vs Ariz

Those are the strongest plays on the board.

[chunticakes]

I saw the Dallas line and laughed. They're -3.5. I honestly hope we tank for a better pick.

[Avante]

I saw the Dallas line and laughed. They're -3.5. I honestly hope we tank for a better pick.

Week 17 will have players not wanting to spend the off season hobbling around. Then there's those teams in the playoffs who will resting anyone slightly injured.

Week 17 is a bad week from an ATS perspective. We don't know what we might get.

This is why I looked for the best play with a playoff hopefull vs a team going nowhere. The Steelers haven't lost the last two games of a season since 2007, and -10 seems about right.

[Avante]

As of right now, it does look like the Pats and the Cards in the biggie.

The Cards pretty much have it all, and the Pats have the best coach/QB combo we have seen.

[Avante]

ANOTHER....winning week.

So that's plus $1240 for the reg season, will pocket 500 and play with the rest.

If you'd played my plays the last two seasons plus $3340.


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Just how good is Russell Wilson?

[HemisfairArena]

Are we really looking at....

AFC playoff QB's

Bengals...A,J.McCarron
Broncos...Brock Osweiler
Jets...Ryan Fitzpatrick
Chiefs....Alex Smith
Texans...Brandon Weeden

And....Tom Brady

Big Ben says hello and the Pats have lost 4 of their last 6 and look horrible,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

As of right now, it does look like the Pats and the Cards in the biggie.

The Cards pretty much have it all, and the Pats have the best coach/QB combo we have seen.

,,,,LMAO

[Avante]

,,,,LMAO

Not ANOTHER rookie, sheesh~~!~~~

Little man, you don't watch much football do ya?

[Avante]

Big Ben says hello and the Pats have lost 4 of their last 6 and look horrible,,,,

I'll take NE to win their first playoff game, ya wanna bet?

[HemisfairArena]

I'll take NE to win their first playoff game, ya wanna bet?

Sure give me the points,,,

[HemisfairArena]

Not ANOTHER rookie, sheesh~~!~~~

Little man, you don't watch much football do ya?

You pick the Pats and Cards and I dont know football?,,,lmao

[Avante]

I do get a kick out of the rookies here, it's fucking funny watching them go from game to game week to week, no thought at all about the realities of the situation, the big picture.

The Seahawks can't beat the Rams at home but can beat up the Cards on the road???? Come on little people, think just a little bit, ok?

[Avante]

You pick the Pats and Cards and I dont know football?,,,lmao

Dude, just how stupid are you?

[HemisfairArena]

Dude, just how stupid are you?

Been gambling 25+years, my friend and made tons more money than you ever will,,,,lmao,,,,you just let me know if you want to give me those poinst,,,

[Avante]

Been gambling 25+years, my friend and made tons more money than you ever will,,,,lmao,,,,you just let me know if you want to give me those poinst,,,

All my $$$$ winning plays are right here for all to see. Where are yours? All I see from you is another rookie over reacting to ...a...game.

I talked about teams in the playoffs being a bad bet, that's why I went with the Steelers minus the number, they had to have it.

And, I seriously doubt ya know shit about ATS gambling.

[HemisfairArena]

All my $$$$ winning plays are right here for all to see. Where are yours? All I see from you is another rookie over reacting to ...a...game.

I talked about teams in the playoffs being a bad bet, that's why I went with the Steelers minus the number, they had to have it.

And, I seriously doubt ya know shit about ATS gambling.

Uh-huh,,,I dont feel the need to thump my chest on a sports forum site ,,,,you just let me know if you want to give me those points,,,

[Avante]

Uh-huh,,,I dont feel the need to thump my chest on a sports forum site ,,,,you just let me know if you want to give me those points,,,

I love to thump my chest everywhere, it's funny watching others being wrong, and then doing all they can to never..."ok ok ok you were right".

The Pats are only concerned with another SB ,so they are resting everyone who needs it, that isn't real obvious? Come on guy.

Dude, the Rams can beat the Seahawks in Seattle but not the Niners? The Seahawks lose to the Rams at home but beat the Cards on the road. Come on little man, you don't get any of that? This isn't the NCAA, ok?

[Avante]

Anyone out there STILL foolish enought to think the Seahawks need BEAST MODE?

When ask to throw the ball what did RW do, well? How about an NFL record setter? Over 4,000yards and 34 TD's. His QB rating the best in the league.

This is...... struggling....hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Avante]

Opening lines.

Chiefs - 3
Steelers - 2.5
Seahawks - 5.5
Pack/Skins...PK

Look at all those Home Dogs.

Alex Smith vs. Brian Hoyer
Big Ben vs ?
Russell Wilson vs Teddy Bridgewater
Aaron Rodgers vs Kirt Cousins

Now what are the odds of that group of superior QB 's coming up short?

Points Given Up

1.Seattle.....277
2.Cinncy...279
3.KC...287
4.Den....296
5.Minn...302
6.Caro...308
7.Ariz...313
8.Hous...313...also
9.NE...315
10.Pitt....319
11.GB..323
12.Wash...379....they haven't beat any of the above teams in 2015.

[Avante]

Pay attention.

Last week the Seahawks couldn't beat the Rams, remember it was....HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!! Well this week the Rams couldn't even beat the Niners while the Seahawks kicked the Cards ass in Arizona.

That is why ya don't act like a retarded monkey week to week game to game, ok?

The Chiefs totally sucks for five weeks, right, they have won how many games in a row since then?

The Seahawks sucked right out of the gate, right? Now where are they at?

[Avante]

Just another tool in your box.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

I don't pay any attention to this unto week 9, by then we have enought "real" info.

[SuperCam]

Pedictions

NFC

Packers
Lions..WC
Vikings
Bears

Seahawks
Rams
Cards
Niners

Eagles
Cowboys..WC
Giants
Redskins

Falcons
Panthers
Saints
Buc's

AFC

Pats
Bills..WC
Dolphins
Jets

Ravens
Steelers..WC
Bengals
Browns

Broncos
Chargers
Chiefs
Raiders

Colts
Texans
Titans
Jags

Packers vs Seahawks
Pats vs Colts

Packers vs Colts




N0 LyF3 ScRuB, this fucking pedo faggot, predicted exactly 2/8 division winners, same as random chance, and a SB with one team that didn't qualify and another that doesn't have a chance in hell :lol

Stop lecturing everyone with your terrible track record

[Avante]

Notice how I do things? What do we see from you ya little prick, yep...nothing.

I step up and give opinions not whimp around waiting for others to do anything. That's your gig ya fucking faggot.

We see so many here who freak out from week to week, hahahaha, yep...rookies, like you.

What were your preseason picks, oh yeah you didn't make any.

[Avante]

When it comes to the Seahawks we see a coach who does it like this.

RUN THE BALL.....that wears down a D while giving your D a good blow if ya have that great back and a mobile QB, like they do. His thing isn't throwing the ball all around. And play defense, which they can do.

Russell Wilson ran that offense to a T, but he can run any offense as we are seeing this season, something I've always known. So it is time for all you haters to wake up to real life. That is Russell Wilson could win on any team /system he played on.

The great RB goes down (a blessing in disguise) no problem.

Over 4000 yards, 68.1 %, 34/8, and the leagues best 110.1 QB rating.

Anyone STILL not getting this?

[Avante]

Payton to my Niners, would love to see this but have some doubts.

[Avante]

See that thread...Struggle is GARBAGE...that was posted by a guy totally ignoring the facts. He saw a bad play and acted stupid over it. No thought process at all, now he looks retarded. RW has had one of the great QBing seasons, which he could have been doing all along if asked to.

This is a young guy only getting better, but.......if he loses a game because of an INT/fumble.....what will see morons like this CN doing? Then when he wins it all again looking great doing it, how stupid will CN/others look?

Remember the....he's a game manager/needs BEAST MODE? A game manager throwing for over 4000 yards? And where was BEAST MODE?

RW is a great young QB and will only get better, how could anyone with even half a brain not see this?

In his 8 playoff/SB games.

60.9 comp %
12/6 TD/INT
97.8 QB rating

Anyone understand any of that?

[chunticakes]

What are the picks this weekend Avante?

[Avante]

What are the picks this weekend Avante?

I like to wait until Fridays on Wild Card weekend. Get a better read on injuries/weather.

But.....now is the time to look at the QB's. Probably the most lopsided are Big Ben vs A.J. McGarron and Russell Wilson vs Teddy Bridgewater.Big Ben and RW with tons of playoff experience with McCarron/TB having.......none! While we can say the same thing for Rodgers vs Cousins, something just isn't right with GB.

I do love Seattle*** in this "spot". The other games I need some work on.

*** going to be really cold in Minnesota. If it's snowing/windy I will pass the game.

MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — The coldest air of the winter season is on its way to Minnesota, just in time for the Vikings to host the Seattle Seahawks on Sunday in the NFC Wild Card Playoffs at TCF Bank Stadium.
Kickoff it set for 12:05 p.m., and temperatures are expected to be right around zero with wind chills between -10 and -20. Molly Rosenblatt found out Tuesday how hard core fans are gearing up for the freeze.
“My name is Ryan Rhody and this will be my 20th consecutive game home and away,” he said.
For this die-hard fan, the harsh elements won’t hold him back even though Sunday’s game could be the coldest ever played at TCF Bank Stadium.

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Now more than ever injuries/weather/QB play becomes paramount when looking for a side to step out on.

[Avante]

Green Bay didn't look good the last 8 weeks going...4-4. But...who have the Redskins beat? They only played two playoff teams and lost to both of them.

They beat...

Eagles...twice
Rams
Saints
Buc's
Giants
Bears
Bills
Cowboys

The Packers better than all those teams.

The Packers beat

Seahawks
Chiefs
Vikes
Chargers
Bears
Rams
Cowboys
Raiders
Lions
Niners

Hmmmm?

[Avante]

Just saw that Newton/Olsen commercial again, ya know ....my tub, your tub. Gotta give it to this guy, he could be an actor, no problems. Why would anyone not like this guy? The guy is having a ball.

[Avante]

Current odds to win the SB



Arizona Cardinals

9/2



New England Patriots

9/2



Carolina Panthers

5/1



Denver Broncos

6/1



Seattle Seahawks

6/1



Pittsburgh Steelers

7/1



Kansas City Chiefs

24/1



Cincinnati Bengals

25/1



Green Bay Packers

35/1



Minnesota Vikings

35/1



Washington Redskins

38/1



Houston Texans

75/1




So that has....

Packers beating the Skins
Chiefs over Texans
Steelers over Bengals
with the Seahawks over the Vikes the biggest difference. Which tells us what ATS?

[Avante]

After Terrell Owens gets in the Hall of Fame, sooner or later. That will give the Niners.

Y.A.Tittle
Steve Young
Joe Montana
Jim Johnson
Bob St.Clair
Leo Nomellini
Dave Wilcox
Jerry Rice
Joe Perry
Ronnie Lott
Charles Haley
Hugh McElhenny
Terrell Owens

....a bust in Canton.

These HOFers all played with the Niners but didn't have their best seasons as a Niner.

Randy Moss
John Henry Johnson....who was there the same time Joe Perry and Hugh McElhenny were. Only time in history a team had three future HOF RB's in the same backfield. With Tittle the QB.
Rod Woodson
O.J.Simpson
Bob Hayes
Deion Sanders

[Avante]

Ok, do I want my $$$$$$$$$$ in the hands of Russell Wilson, Big Ben, Alex Smith and Aaron Rodgers or Teddy Bridgewater, A.J.McGarron, Brian Hoyer and Kirk Cousins? I will play all those road favorites, but not sure what line, until I call in Saturday morning.

The playoffs are a bit different, here ya don't play trends, now it's all about that coach/QB tandum. As we can see those road teams have the advantage there. So I'll play that advantage,110 to win 100.

Currently at plus $1240. Will pocket 500 and play with the rest.

This will be my 20th winning season in a row. It's never about will I wn, it's about how much will I win.

Next week that home field advantage with the week off is huge. And we won't be seeing the dramatic difference in that coach/QB combo like we are this week. We see teams only here this week because of the weak divisions they play in.

If I hit both games on Saturday I might play 330 on the Seahawks Sunday, the weather is a concern however.

Hmmm?

Green Bay at Arizona
Seattle at Carolina
Pitt at Denver
KC at NE

In the Russell Wilson era the Seahawks have never lost two games to the same team in any season before.

In Carolina

2012 16-14
2013 12-7

beat them twice at home in 2014,
13-9 and 31-17 and if not for a busted coverage would have beat them in week six this season. This gang of Seahawks have played in 8 playoff games with a couple SB's in there, these Panthers 1-2 in playoff games.

[Avante]

I'd like to see this board rise above the little kid bullshit we see with all the over reacting that goes on, no thought what so ever of next season.

All the teams left are good teams, no QB sucks....ok people? So how about cooling the dumb monkey silliness this season, ok? Elevate your game, alright?

But, why do I have a feeling if Newton loses early......HE SUCKS, HE WAS OVERRATED...hahaha!!! Come on people, don't play that junior high bullshit, ok? Don't act like that idiot Clipper Nation, ok?

Important tool in your box.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

[Avante]

Got Chiefs - 3 and Pitt-2.5, 110 to win 100.

The Chiefs always coming up with some RB from some small school. Now it's Charcandrick West from....where? This guy can play.

Remember Christian "The Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye, he was out of tiny Azusa Pacific.
Joe Delaney a 1000 yard rusher as a rookie, NWLa.
Robert Holmes and Mack Lee Hill...The Truck and The Tank, out of Southen U
Abner Haynes their first 1000 yard rusher out of North Texas St.
Wendell Hayes Humbolt

[Avante]

No BEASTMODE vs Vikes, could this be a good thing?

[chunticakes]

No BEASTMODE vs Vikes, could this be a good thing?

So far so good. I played KC -3.5. Next up Pittsburgh -2.5. The only thing that concerns me about that Minnesota game is the weather. As long as Seattle stops Peterson they should be OK. Bridgewater isn't gonna win them the game.

[Avante]

So far so good. I played KC -3.5. Next up Pittsburgh -2.5. The only thing that concerns me about that Minnesota game is the weather. As long as Seattle stops Peterson they should be OK. Bridgewater isn't gonna win them the game.

Are you kidding me?

lost 10 bucks.

Ok will play the Seahawks - 5, 110 to win a 100. If I lose I'll call it a day and lick my wounds. If I win I'll play GB, 60 to win 50. Don't really like this game.

[chunticakes]

Are you kidding me?

lost 10 bucks.

Ok will play the Seahawks - 5, 110 to win a 100. If I lose I'll call it a day and lick my wounds. If I win I'll play GB, 60 to win 50. Don't really this game.

If only Ben would've stayed in the game longer!! Fuck!! It was 15-0 when he went down...

[HemisfairArena]

So Avante, you want to give me the Chiefs and the points against your Pats?,,,,

[Avante]

If only Ben would've stayed in the game longer!! Fuck!! It was 15-0 when he went down...

I was already plotting out my next play with the plus 200. This one hurt.

[Avante]

So Avante, you want to give me the Chiefs and the points against your Pats?,,,,

Where did ya ever get this idea I'm a Pats fan? Obviously we need to see the number but I'm thinking what you are, KC plus the number.

Also thinking about Denver minus the number, right now. All that emotion spent today, hmmmm?

[HemisfairArena]

Where did ya ever get this idea I'm a Pats fan? Obviously we need to see the number but I'm thinking what you are, KC plus the number.

Fair enough,,,you talked shit about any team against the Pats,,,,i called you out,,,you ready? I got the chiefs+ the points,,,,let me know how much you want to wager,,,

[Avante]

Fair enough,,,you talked shit about any team against the Pats,,,,i called you out,,,you ready? I got the chiefs+ the points,,,,let me know how much you want to wager,,,

Little man, what about..."I was thinking the same thing, KC plus the number" ....don't you get? But, I will study the game see what a few guys who know the Pats have to say.

Dude, save the junior high bullshit, got it, good!

[Avante]

My theory of...

Ya go with the best coach/QB duo in the playoffs...2-0. Talking SU.

[HemisfairArena]

Little man, what about..."I was thinking the same thing, KC plus the number" ....don't you get? But, I will study the game see what a few guys who know the Pats have to say.

Dude, save the junior high bullshit, got it, good!


your such a pussy,,,,lmao,,,i called you out and you don't know shit about gambling,,,,

[Avante]

your such a pussy,,,,lmao,,,i called you out and you don't know shit about gambling,,,,

Dude, right here in black and white I've won over 3000 bucks gambling. I have yet to see you do anything ya little bitch but run your fucking mouth. Where were your picks, well?

Ok ya little queer break down the Chiefs vs Pats game from an ATS perspective, I bet ya haven't a fucking clue.

[HemisfairArena]

Youre a pussy, avante,,,I called you out and you folded like a bitch,,,,

[Avante]

Youre a pussy, avante,,,I called you out and you folded like a bitch,,,,

Dude, what the fuck are you "trying" to talk about?

ONE MORE TIME~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hey bitch, handicap the NE vs KC game from an ATS perspective, come on mutherfucker.

[pgardn]

My theory of...

Ya go with the best coach/QB duo in the playoffs...2-0. Talking SU.

How are you 2-0?

SU... FTS

You lost the Steelers game even though imo it was a good play.
Thats why it's called gambling little fella...

[SpursforSix]

Dude, what the fuck are you "trying" to talk about?

ONE MORE TIME~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hey bitch, handicap the NE vs KC game from an ATS perspective, come on mutherfucker.

I'll handicrap it. Pats will open as a -4 point favorite but will be only -1 or -1.5 by game time. Two teams going in opposite directions. But do you bet against...Brady/Belli...

[SpursforSix]

Why would anyone...erectile disfunction med...must protect against HIV...wot...

[pgardn]

I'll handicrap it. Pats will open as a -4 point favorite but will be only -1 or -1.5 by game time. Two teams going in opposite directions. But do you bet against...Brady/Belli...

The Pats Oline is a sieve.

[SpursforSix]

Plus...it's a turnoff to hear Sophia Vergera talk about...flakes??

[SpursforSix]

And when did Samuel Jackson turn into such a pompous ass

[SpursforSix]

The Pats Oline is a sieve.

I agree. I like KC straight up

[Avante]

How are you 2-0?

I took the Chiefs and Steelers to win the game, so...2-0.

Dude, stop this..."I must try all I can to make Avantre look bad"...ok guy, it's not going to work it never does, ok?

[Avante]

I'll handicrap it. Pats will open as a -4 point favorite but will be only -1 or -1.5 by game time. Two teams going in opposite directions. But do you bet against...Brady/Belli...

Don't tel me you consider that handicapping a game, ha~~~~~~~~

[SpursforSix]

Don't tel me you consider that handicapping a game, ha~~~~~~~~

Shouldn't you be mourning Otis Day?

[pgardn]

I took the Chiefs and Steelers to win the game, so...2-0.

Dude, stop this..."I must try all I can to make Avantre look bad"...ok guy, it's not going to work it never does, ok?

Bs

-2.5

Just be honest. The Steelers was a good call IMO. You posted -2.5 ... A good call that lost to what is known as, gambling.

[pgardn]

Got Chiefs - 3 and Pitt-2.5, 110 to win 100.

The Chiefs always coming up with some RB from some small school. Now it's Charcandrick West from....where? This guy can play.

Remember Christian "The Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye, he was out of tiny Azusa Pacific.
Joe Delaney a 1000 yard rusher as a rookie, NWLa.
Robert Holmes and Mack Lee Hill...The Truck and The Tank, out of Southen U
Abner Haynes their first 1000 yard rusher out of North Texas St.
Wendell Hayes Humbolt

Liar.

[Avante]

Bs

-2.5

Just be honest. The Steelers was a good call IMO. You posted -2.5 ... A good call that lost to what is known as, gambling.

Dude, do you know what...SU...means? I said 2-0...SU...ok little guy?

I said..
My theory of...

Ya go with the best coach/QB duo in the playoffs...2-0. Talking SU.

Little man, SU........STRAIGHT UP.....ok, see ya learned something.

[SpursforSix]

Shouldn't you be mourning Otis Day?

Otis Clay.

Morris Day lives on.

[pgardn]

Dude, do you know what...SU...means? I said 2-0...SU...ok little guy?

You posted the SU AFTER you put up the points in a previous post.

Anyone can see it. Don't make it worse by lying AGAIN.
Take your lumps like a man.

[Avante]

You posted the SU AFTER you put up the points in a previous post.

Anyone can see it. Don't make it worse by lying AGAIN.
Take your lumps like a man.

Dude, see that thread about making predictions STAIGHT UP?????? I was talking about that ya dumb fuck.

[pgardn]

Got Chiefs - 3 and Pitt-2.5, 110 to win 100.



So what's this?

None of your proclaimations of grandeur can be believed.

[Avante]

None of your proclaimations of grandeur can be believed.

Dude, all my $1240 winning picks have been posted right here as were my $2100 winning picks from 2014.

Archive...Avante's Bertting Thread...from 2014, it's all right there.

Dude, I was talkking about this.

never try to predict anything far down the road, what if some key players get hurt in a win?

Chiefs, Steelers, Seahawks and...........hmmmm?....this is the tuff one..Aaron Rodgers~

Smith
Big Ben
RW
Rodgers

over

Hoyer
A.J.
Teddy
Cousins

makes sense to me.

Notice how that's just picking the winners? Which is what the thread was about. Dude, just how stupid are you?

Dude, see this? Yep, 2-0.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256005&p=8362101#post8362101

[SpursforSix]

This thread is making me fart.

[pgardn]

Dude, all my $1240 winning picks have been posted right here as were my $2100 winning picks from 2014.

Archive...Avante's Bertting Thread...from 2014, it's all right there.

Dude, I was talkking about this.

never try to predict anything far down the road, what if some key players get hurt in a win?

Chiefs, Steelers, Seahawks and...........hmmmm?....this is the tuff one..Aaron Rodgers~

Smith
Big Ben
RW
Rodgers

over

Hoyer
A.J.
Teddy
Cousins

makes sense to me.

Notice how that's judst picking the wimnners? Which is what the thread was about. Dude, just how stupid are you?


Steelers was a good play IMO.

But you lost. Just post 1-1
Dont lie.

[pgardn]

Got Chiefs - 3 and Pitt-2.5, 110 to win 100.



1-1

Did I catch you drunk or what?

[Avante]

Steelers was a good play IMO.

But you lost. Just post 1-1
Dont lie.

Dude...I was talking about SRAIGHT UP....ok dummy, that's why I said....SU.....ok, wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[Avante]

Stupid what about....SU...don't you understand?

[pgardn]

Dude...I was talkinG about SRAIGHT UP....ok dummy, that's why I said....SU.....ok, wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then why did you post Pitt-2.5 ?

There is no SU until AFTER THE GAME WAS OVER.

You can't be trusted.

[Avante]

Then why did you post Pitt-2.5 ?

I'll go slow, you can do this.

There are two kinds of picks, one is....ATS....that's with a point spread, ok ya with me? I'm up $2130 now playing ATS , losing 10 today, ok?

Then there is SU or STRAIGHT UP...picking, without a spreAd, there's it's just about picking the winners ,ok ya got that slick . I went 2-0 ....SU....as I mentioned, ok ya got, it's not too complex for ya?

[pgardn]

Got Chiefs - 3 and Pitt-2.5, 110 to win 100.



Just stop.

You are making it worse by continuing.

[Avante]

Just stop.

You are making it worse by continuing.

Are you simply retarded little man? You really don't understand what....SU...means, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!

I had the Chiefs/Steelers to win the game in the thread asking for just winners, ok stupid?

[pgardn]

I'll go slow, you csan do this.

There are two kinds of picks, one is....ATS....that's with a point spred, ok ya with me? I'm up $2130 mow, losing 10 today, ok?

Then theree is SU or STRAIGHT UP...picking, without a spresd, there's it's just about picking the winners ,ok ya got that slick . I went 2-0 ....SU....as I mentioned, ok ya got, it's not too complex for ya?

Yes slick.

Its easy to pick SU AFTER THE GAMES ARE OVER.

You pick SU after the contest is decided with THE SCORE ALREADY KNOWN?
You are a miserable liar.

[Avante]

Yes slick.

Its easy to pick SU AFTER THE GAMES ARE OVER.

You pick SU after the contest is decided with THE SCORE ALREADY KNOWN?
You are a miserable liar.

Are you kidding me, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Moron, if I took the Steelers to cover the number that means I had them winning SU, ok ya stupid fuck? Are you really this dumb?

[pgardn]

Got Chiefs - 3 and Pitt-2.5, 110 to win 100.

t

Are you really going to continue diverting?

You are a liar.

[pgardn]

Are you kidding me, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Moron, if I took the Steelers to cover the number that means I had them winning SU, ok ya stupid fuck? Are you really this dumb?

No shit moron.
You got the points next to that.

So you won money SU ?

Please don't take the next step to the basement....

[Avante]

Are you really going to continue diverting?

You are a liar.

Are you going to continue to ignore this?


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Just go through the games and pick the winner.

Chiefs 27, Texans 17
Bengals 20, Steelers 17
Packers 31, Redskins 23
Seahawks 30, Vikings 24

Broncos 23, Chiefs 21
Bengals 26, Patriots 21
Panthers 30, Seahawks 27 (OT)
Cardinals 33, Packers 17

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Panthers 20, Cardinals 16

Panthers 27, Broncos 21

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I took a lot of time on the Bengals/Patriots and Broncos/Bengals game. I think Dalton pulls the upset of the playoffs against NE.. and I couldn't make a decisive prediction on the Broncos/Bengals.. I don't trust Dalton fully.. but I have a feeling that Manning is going to throw the game away one way or another.





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I never try to predict anything far down the road, what if some key players get hurt in a win?

Chiefs, Steelers, Seahawks and...........hmmmm?....this is the tuff one..Aaron Rodgers~

Smith
Big Ben
RW
Rodgers

over

Hoyer
A.J.
Teddy
Cousins

makes sense to me.



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[Avante]

No shit moron.
You got the points next to that.

So you won money SU ?

Please don't take the next step to the basement....

Dummy, I made my SU picks in another thread ok stupid?

See where he says...just pick the winners....well?
Just go through the games and pick the winner.

Chiefs 27, Texans 17
Bengals 20, Steelers 17
Packers 31, Redskins 23
Seahawks 30, Vikings 24

Broncos 23, Chiefs 21
Bengals 26, Patriots 21
Panthers 30, Seahawks 27 (OT)
Cardinals 33, Packers 17

Broncos 16, Bengals 10
Panthers 20, Cardinals 16

Panthers 27, Broncos 21

[pgardn]

Dummy, I made my SU picks in another thread ok stupid?

Then label THIS THREAD WITH 1-1

And do it now.

Both you and I are posting on THIS THREAD NOT another one.

Do you get this?

[Avante]

Then label THIS THREAD WITH 1-1

And do it now.

So ya finally figure out what...SU...means, hahaha!!!!!! Dude, are you stupid enought to think I think I could bullshit my ATS plays knowing how everyone looks at them, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You cannot be this fucking dense.

Do this little man....

Archive....Avante's Betting Tracker Thread...from 2014. You will see all my plays for the seasons, all my $2100 winning ATS plays. iome on guy check it out.

[pgardn]

So ya finally figure out what...SU...means, hahaha!!!!!! Dude, are you stupid enought to think I think I could bullshit my ATS plays knowing how everyone looks at them, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You cannot be this fucking dense.

Oh hell yes I can believe you are this Fckn dense.
Dont post 2-0 on the wrong thread, it's very simple.

So now post you are 1-1 in the playoffs.

[Avante]

Then label THIS THREAD WITH 1-1

And do it now.

Both you and I are posting on THIS THREAD NOT another one.

Do you get this?

Dude, why do you think I said......I;m talking about SU.....well?

[Avante]

Oh hell yes I can believe you are this Fckn dense.
Dont post 2-0 on the wrong thread, it's very simple.

So now post you are 1-1 in the playoffs.

Well when ya make it real clear you're talking about ...SU....because ya said so ya just assume people know what that means, I forgot about how dumb you are,

[pgardn]

Dude, why do you think I said......I;m talking about SU.....well?

I have no Fckn idea, it has NOTHING to do with betting. Might as well brag about knowing the game is played and over and you knew the game was played and over.

You can now post 1-1.

Fckn liar...

[Avante]

I have no Fckn idea, it has NOTHING to do with betting. Might as well brag about knowing the game is played and over and you knew the game was played and over.

You can now post 1-1.

Fckn liar...

Stupid, so what was this?

AFC:
Houston over Chiefs
Steelers over Bengals

NFC:
Packers over Redskins
Vikings over Seacucks
Did that have anything to do with the ATS,...WELL?


How about this?


Seahawks and Packers seasons end Sunday Well?

[pgardn]

Got Chiefs - 3 and Pitt-2.5, 110 to win 100.



Whats this?

Well?

[Avante]

That's my ATS plays. My SU plays were Chiefs and Steelers, so 2-0, ok ya dumb fuck?

Dude go to that Betting thread and look at how many said nothing about a point spread ok stupid?

This dumb fuck makes Blake look smart, this guy is..STOO-PEEDDDDDDD.

[pgardn]

That's my ATS plays. My SU plays were Chiefs and Steelers, so 2-0, ok ya dumb fuck?

This is Avante's betting thread.

What is your playoff record in this thread?
For this season?

[Avante]

This is Avante's betting thread.

What is your playoff record in this thread?

Minus 10 bucks.

Will play Seattle - 5, 110 to win 100. Will decide on what to do with GB/Wash after I know where I stand.

So far in 2015 plus $1230.

Stupid, ya don't talk 2-0 when talking ATS ok moron, it's all about $$$$$$$$$$....ok son?

I could have played 60, 110, 220, 550, 0k? So what would 2-0 mean, yep. nothing. That only matters when talkig SU ok ya fucking idiot?

Pay attention stupid.

You...so how ya doing ATS?
Avante....2-0.

Stupid, 2-0....what? You want to know how much $$$$$ I;ve won, ok little man?

[pgardn]

Minus 10 bucks.

Will play Seattle - 5, 110 to win 100. Will decide on what to do with GB/Wash after I know where I stand.

So far in 2015 plus $1230.

Took you two pages for you to realize you were on your own betting thread.
Jesus...

Or you got caught.

Im taking the later. You can't be trusted to be honest.

[Avante]

Took you two pages for you to realize you were on your own betting thread.
Jesus...

Or you got caught.

Im taking the later. You can't be trusted to be honest.

Dude, I said...2-0 SU...ok? I didn't know anyone here was as damn dumb as you are, ok?

I got caught? I say..2-0 SU...and I got caught, hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You're actually retarded.

I have a whole new respect for Blake now, I thought he was the dumbest poster here, nope~~~~~~~

[Avante]

Let me make this clear.

There ain't no way in hell I would ever try to pass some stupid bullshit off about my ATS picks, first off I couldn't get away with it and know it.(everyone dying to..YOU LOST) All my plays are legit, they are all right here.

To watch this freak act like some dumbass , sheesh~~~~~~

I don't lose $$$$ over a season, that cannot happen and it should be real obvious.

I was a half point from winning 200 today, I won $1240 in the reg season, now at $1230.

Prediction

Tomorrow in the Seahawks game we will hear something about RW being,...great/magical/amazing.....something like that, watch.

[pgardn]

Let me make this clear.

There ain't no way in hell I would ever try to pass some stupid bullshit off about my ATS picks, first off I couldn't get away with it and know it.(everyone dying to..YOU LOST) All my plays are legit, they are all right here.
.

B Fkn S

You already tried it and are doing so AGAIN.

You seriously brag on your betting thread about winning a game straight up in which the outcome was absolutely random AFTER the game?
GTFOH.

You are a horrible con. And if you are in anyway sane, you realize that I realize exactly what a sleeze bag you are.
Its gambling bud. You made the right pick IMO and lost by a half a point. Don't try and make this gambling seem easy or fair.

[Avante]

B Fkn S

You already tried it and are doing so AGAIN.

You seriously brag on your betting thread about winning a game straight up in which the outcome was absolutely random AFTER the game?
GTFOH.

You are a horrible con. And if you are in anyway sane, you realize that I realize exactly what a sleeze bag you are.
Its gambling bud. You made the right pick IMO and lost by a half a point. Don't try and make this gambling seem easy or fair.

Dummy I made my....SU...picks in the ...SU picks...thread before the game, what are retarded? Dude, just how stupid can you be?

Is the guy about as stupid as it gets, wow~~~~~~

[Avante]

What sucks is after Seattle beats the Vikes today will the bitter cold have a lingering effect on them next week?

[pgardn]

B Fkn S

You already tried it and are doing so AGAIN.

You seriously brag on your betting thread about winning a game straight up in which the outcome was absolutely random AFTER the game?
GTFOH.

You are a horrible con. And if you are in anyway sane, you realize that I realize exactly what a sleeze bag you are.
Its gambling bud. You made the right pick IMO and lost by a half a point. Don't try and make this gambling seem easy or fair.

And again.

[Avante]

And again.

Still trying to figure out what you're even talking about. Dude, you really don't get....SU..over ATS? Who says 2-0 when talking ATS? Without talking about the amount of $$$$ played?

How could anyone not understand,

Me..I'm talking 2-0 SU.

Little man.....SU...SU..SU...SU..ok ya dumb fuck?

Stupid there is a thread here about....SU...picks, ok?

Why are you ignoring this?

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=256005&p=8362250#post8362250

Dummy, see.......just pick the winners.....which I did, yep...2-0. Just how damn dumb are you amigo?

[pgardn]

B Fkn S

You already tried it and are doing so AGAIN.

You seriously brag on your betting thread about winning a game straight up in which the outcome was absolutely random AFTER the game?
GTFOH.

You are a horrible con. And if you are in anyway sane, you realize that I realize exactly what a sleeze bag you are.
Its gambling bud. You made the right pick IMO and lost by a half a point. Don't try and make this gambling seem easy or fair.

[Avante]

Dummy, I have made tons of SU beats over the years. Wow, you really are retarded.

[pgardn]

Dummy, I have made tons of SU beats over the years. Wow, you really are retarded.

Yeah.
Sure.

So why not put them down on this betting thread and tell the board who you are betting and how those straight up bets work with Vegas payouts. You won on those, post em.

[Avante]

Yeah.
Sure.

So why not put them down on this betting thread and tell the board who you are betting and how those straight up bets work with Vegas payouts. You won on those, post em.

Just how far gone are you little fella? We al bet on games, nobody asks for points.

Dude, with each post ya look dumber and dumber.

[Avante]

Where were all those taking the Vikings....BEFORE...the game?

Notice how I predict things...BEFORE.

Come on little people.

[pgardn]

Just how far gone are you little fella? We al bet on games, nobody asks for points.

Dude, with each post ya look dumber and dumber.

Vegas takes straight up bets.

There is no spread. But you knew this. They use payouts as leverage. So post em.

[Avante]

Vegas takes straight up bets.

There is no spread. But you knew this. They use payouts as leverage. So post em.

Dude, you really can't figure out I wasn't talking about ATS, that's why I said...SU.

Ok, guy I'm done with this, you're so fucking stupid it's comical.

[pgardn]

Dude, you really can't figure out I wasn't talking about ATS, that's why I said...SU.

Ok, guy I'm done with this, you're so fucking stupid it's comical.


Of course you are done with it.
Because you got caught.

2-0

You are so full of shit.
So what's your playoff record so far Avante?

[Avante]

Of course you are done with it.
Because you got caught.

2-0

You are so full of shit.
So what's your playoff record so far Avante?

I'll go slow...

So far.

ATS...minus $10, here it's not about 1-1, ok, ya understand that?
SU....2-0

ok?

[pgardn]

I'll go slow...

So far.

ATS...minus $10, here it's not about 1-1, ok, ya understand that?
SU....2-0

ok?

Another whole page required to get the charlatan to come clean.