***** The Official 2015 Avante Football Thread *****

[Avante]

Once again we see rookies over reacting to...A..game, ha~~~~~~~~~~~~~

No the Cowboys don't all of a sudden suck, no the Seahawks don't all of a sudden suck, ok? Hell, just a few weeks ago it was...what's wrong with Rodgers and Green Bay...right? What did the Buc's do early on? Remember the 5-0 Vikes?

Slow down little people, ok?

These teams play hard to make the playoffs, so once they do, guess what? I really have to tell you people that? Teams trying to make the playoffs will do what?

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Remember me talking up Towson's Terrance West? I wasn't talking about him being the next Jim Brown, it was can he make it in the NFL coming from that level of football. well he's the starting RB for the Ravens, so I guess he made it.

[Avante]

What's hurting Seattle is Arizona. Where are they in 2016? So the Seahawks have known they've had that division wrapped up for weeks now. There is no need to bring the A game every week.

[Avante]

A team that just fired their head coach starting a rookie QB on the road on a short week in Seattle with the Seahawks coming off an embarrashing loss, talk about a "spot", here it is.

[Avante]

The Cowboys are in a unique situation, don't recall ever seeing it like this. There stands Tony Romo with the best team Dallas has had in awhile, on the sideline watching a rookie play. This cannot be a good thing for that team. This....what could Tony do? While Prescott is having a great season, so has Tony Romo in the past. How with a rookie inexperience help a playoff team? While there stands a guy who holds how many Cowboy records?

Is this situation going to nip the Cowboys in the butt?

I do see the Buc's either winning or losing a close one.

[SpursforSix]

The Cowboys are in a unique situation, don't recall ever seeing it like this. There stands Tony Romo with the best team Dallas has had in awhile, on the sideline watching a rookie play. This cannot be a good thing for that team. This....what could Tony do? While Prescott is having a great season, so has Tony Romo in the past. How with a rookie inexperience help a playoff team? While there stands a guy who holds how many Cowboy records?

Is this situation going to nip the Cowboys in the butt?

I do see the Buc's either winning or losing a close one.

Danny White holds some records too but no one's clamoring for him to take Dak's job. Maybe Romo could do a better job in some situations. But the last thing you want to do now is change QB and have Romo go out on the first play. ESPECIALLY if you want to keep Dak around a long time. Pull him out now and they'll be a reckoning come contract time.

That being said, I don't put it past Jerry Jones to find the best way to fuck all of this up for now and the future.

[Avante]

Danny White holds some records too but no one's clamoring for him to take Dak's job. Maybe Romo could do a better job in some situations. But the last thing you want to do now is change QB and have Romo go out on the first play. ESPECIALLY if you want to keep Dak around a long time. Pull him out now and they'll be a reckoning come contract time.

That being said, I don't put it past Jerry Jones to find the best way to fuck all of this up for now and the future.

As far as Danny White goes.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/teams/dal/career-passing.htm

A team needs a QB, ya can't be....if the young guy messes up. Hell yes he's going to mess up, he's a.....ROOKIE~~~

This is a bad sitation this season, but a great situation down the road. Prescott is going to be a great NFL QB with time.

The best thing that could have happened was Romo nevrer came back in 2016.

[Avante]

A team that just fired their head coach starting a rookie QB on the road on a short week in Seattle with the Seahawks coming off an embarrashing loss, talk about a "spot", here it is.

This was just too damn easy.

[SpursforSix]

This was just too damn easy.

Me: Hey Crickets...what's your favorite spot
Avante: Gotta pay attention to snow days. Sometimes, they let the kids out and don't inform the parents in a timely manner. So...you'll have...several children either waiting outside the school or walking home without mom and dad knowing they are even out.

[Avante]

Me: Hey Crickets...what's your favorite spot
Avante: Gotta pay attention to snow days. Sometimes, they let the kids out and don't inform the parents in a timely manner. So...you'll have...several children either waiting outside the school or walking home without mom and dad knowing they are even out.

Me...do you have any idea what a 20.00 really is at 200m?
You....all I know is as a middle school kid I ran that, maybe faster.
Me....so you are faster than the great Bob Hayes, who ran a 20.5?
You....and in middle school.
Me...do you get speed endurance and how someone that young simply couldn'y possess the threshold tthe capacity to possess the level of SE a 20.00 requires?
You...I fucked yo mama.

[Clipper Nation]

chirp chirp

[Avante]

Totally owned, hahahaha~~~~

I guess I should back off and let ya talk your stupid shit, but....nay~~~~

[Avante]

Tampa Bay + 7

Who disagrees?

A team playing for thier playoff life getting 7 vs a team more concerned with injury, perfect "spot".

[Avante]

This was too easy:lobt2:

[Avante]

Looking at points scored vs points given up.

NE + 132
Atl 111
Dallas 108
Pitt 65
Sea 63
KC 45
Balt 43
Oak 41
GB 24
Indy 23
NYG 22

[Avante]

Imagine the defense totally stacked to stop one RB (actually a FB) and he still averages over 5 yards a carry and a 100 yards in every game. That is amazing.

I've never seen anyting like this since....


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LD_sqMKZRmQ

[Avante]

The speed of Tyreek Hill has everyone talking. What's funny is there has always been guys like Hill in the NFL some even faster.

Obviously he's a football player who just happens to be fast, not a track guy trying to play football. Yep, just like Bob Hayes who was first and foremost a footballer. A running back in HS/FAMU.

Hill's best event on the track was the 200m, which tells us he has long range jets, a 100 yards is nothing to him.

I'm not going to count Tommie Smith, Jimmie Hines. Frank Budd, Ray Norton, (Olympic sprinters) they were sprinters they tried to make footballer, it didn't work.

When it comes to footballer/sprinter.

Al Time NFL 200m.

lane

1.Michael Bates Seahawks/Arizona....Olympic bronze
2.Henry Carr Giants/ASU..Olympic gold
3.Bob Hayes Cowboys/FAMU...WR 20.5
4.Tyreek Hill Chiefs/Okie State, West Alabama...HS 20.13
5.James Jett Raiders/WV
6.James Trapp Raiders/Clemson
7.Jerome Mathis Texans/Hampton
8.Larry Burton Saints/Purdue...Olympic final

[Avante]

Christian McCaffrey leaving Stanford before their bowl game, hmmmmmm? As did Leonard Fournette. Both more concerned with themselves than their team. What message is that sending to the NFL? I think it's...ME..ME..and..ME.

Yes, we are all worried about self first but that does come in degrees. And it won't work in a sport like football. There has never been any RB who is doing shit without his line. They are working their ass off for the team. No QB doing shit if he doesn't have protection. So ll these stud QB's/RB's are doing what they do because of .....the team. You don't bail on them because of....ME, ME, ME. You finish your commitment to them and the school.

McCaffrey has "good" speed, but it's not the burner he appears to be. He's not as fast Reggie Bush was. Yes he ran track, he was nothing special. At NFL level I'd make slot receiver out of him who does get a few "out in space" carries as a RB. Plant the seed....run? receive?

[Darth_Pelican]

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[Avante]

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translation

You told me my Saints wouldn't make the playoffs, I wouldn't listen, so now I'm pouting like the little shit I am.

[Darth_Pelican]

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[Avante]

I get it hurts being taken to school, you'll get over it.

[Avante]

The fast white NFLer. Inspired by Christian McCaffrey. (his grandpa Dave Sime might have been the fastest white American ever)

The fastest paleface to ever play pro football was a 9.3 (WR 9.1) sprinter out of SMU named John Roderick, he was a Dolphin. He flopped.

No Welker, Edelman, Woodhead are not fast, they are quick. Tim Dwight a 10.33 cat while at Iowa was fast.

Billy Cannon was a legit 9.5 while at LSU.
"Mr. Outside" for Army Glenn Davis ran a 9.6
Tennesse footballer/110hher Richmond Flowers ran a 9.4.

While no real track expoits to speak of, it's real obvious they could motor.

Jordy Nelson and Jeff Janis
Sonny Randle Cards
Don Beebe Bills
Travis Jervey Packers
Roger Carr Colts
Don Maynard Jets
Hugh "The King" McElhenny Niners
"Jaguar" Jon Arnett Rams
Lance Alworth Chargers.....McCaffrey reminds me of him.

While in HS John Riggins won Kansas State in a 9.8, but he was a lot lighter then than his NFL days.

While all those guys mentioned could scoot, none of them were "great" sprinters. Roderick never did anything on a national/world level.

That list of black speedsters in the NFL would have over dozen Olympians on it, yep, a whole other level.

Grandpa Dave Sime. in lane one. He was better in 1956 but injuries did him in, he had beaten the 56 Olympic champ Bobby Morrow many times.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpusAWku-mw

Lyle Lovett the starter.

World Rankings 1956


1956

1................................Bobby Morrow (US)
2..................................... Dave Sime (US)
3................................. Leamon King (US) from nearby Delano HS
4.................................. Thane Baker (US)
5........................... Hec Hogan (Australia)
6................................ Ira Murchison (US) only 5-4
7............................... Willie Williams (US)
8....................... Mike Agostini (Trinidad) went to nearby Fresno State, a white Trini
9........ Manfred Germar (West Germany)
10...................... Abdul Khaliq (Pakistan)

[Avante]

BYU is not known for RB's, well they have one now, Jamaal Williams. Remember that name, this guy is a load.

Williams is a bit rare, a big fast black RB from.......Montana...????

No no no, not saying he's the next Jim Brown or headed to the HOF, ok?

Wyoming also has a stud RB in Brian Hill.

As we know a lot of great NFLers from schools on that level.

[Avante]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKxIs_ehWyc

In the mid 80's a kid from Roosevelt HS in Dallas named Roy Martin ran a 20.13 200m to shatter the 200m HS record, that record stood until 2016, when Virginia's Noah Lyles ran a 20.09. But.....in all those years from the mid 80's until 2016 only one HS sprinter had ever came anywhere close to breaking that 20.13 HS record....yep, Tyreek Hill at 20.14.

This kid has long range speed, he can cook a 100, something really not that easy to do. He is a footballer who ran track.

Sometime in the playoffs he will....WOW~~~....us all again.

The real deal as you can see.


On May 26, 2012, at the 36th Golden South Classic in Orlando, Florida (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Orlando,_Florida), Hill ran a new season-best in the 100 m (10.19) and a PR in the 200 m (20.14).[3] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-3) His time in the 200 m missed Roy Martin's (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Roy_Martin_(sprinter)) 1985 national high school record (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/United_States_high_school_national_records_in_trac k_and_field) by only one hundredth of a second. It was the fastest time by a junior athlete (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Junior_(athletics)) in the 2012 season and the fastest by a junior since Ramil Guliyev (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Ramil_Guliyev)'s 20.04 in 2009. His time in the 100 m ties Abraham Hall for second fastest by a junior in the 2012 season, behind only Adam Gemili (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Adam_Gemili). He was Track and Field News (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Track_and_Field_News) "High School Athlete of the Year" in 2012.[4] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-4) Hill also clocked a 4.25 40-yard dash (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/40-yard_dash) at a Nike Sparq Camp.[citation needed (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed)] Hill ran a wind-assisted (+5.0 m/s) 9.98 in the 100-meter dash at the 2013 Hutchinson NJCCA Championships.[5] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-5)

[Avante]

Michael Benett said....

Zach Zenner is the best white running back in the NFL.

....and there are people having problems with that?

Since the late 50's and the emergence of the black RB how many stud white RB's have we seen, a dozen or so?

[Darth_Pelican]

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[Avante]

Aren't you a bit old to be acting like that, come on guy. All that does is make you look tiny and immature.

Grow up!

[Avante]

ANOTHER...NFL first for Russell Wilson.

He is the only QB in pro football history to have a 4000 yd season, win a playoff game, catch a pass for a TD, and throw a block 20 yards down the field for a running back.

Now add....

Only QB to post two 100 QB ratings in their first two seasons.

An NFL record...4000/30/500.

Rookie TD record (with Peyton)

Won a playoff game in every season of his career.

Most wins in NFL history after five seasons.

What an amazing QB this guy is.

What a career....

53-23-1 wins
64.7 comp %
TD/INT...125/45
QB rating...99.5

Of course this can only be done if ya have a stud RB and a monster D, hahaha!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjG1leiPppY


How could anyone not get that?

[Clipper Nation]

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[Darth_Pelican]

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[Avante]

Love being right all the time and watching how the immature deal with it, ha!

Too early to start talking next weeks games, other than who you wish would win.

There is one "spot" however that can't be ignored....a rookie QB vs Aaron Rodgers.

[Avante]

What has been the one constant this time of an NFL seaon since 2012? Russell Wilson moving on in the playoffs.

I do get a kick out of some of you, it is funny watching how ya try so hard to ignore reality.

[Avante]

Back to the future.

The very first stud Seahawk RB was a coverted QB out of Miami of Ohio, yep the MAC like Rawls. His name was Sherman Smith.

Professional playing career[edit (http://www.spurstalk.com/w/index.php?title=Sherman_Smith&action=edit&section=2)]

Smith was drafted in the second round of the 1976 NFL Draft (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/1976_NFL_Draft) by the Seattle Seahawks as a running back (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Running_back). As a Seahawk, Smith was call "The Tank" in reference to the Sherman Tank (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Sherman_Tank) because of his performance to run through tackles. He was the first offensive player picked by the new expansion team (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Expansion_team) in its first season.[1] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-1) He was the first Seahawk to rush for over 100 yards in a game when he ran for 124 yards against the Atlanta Falcons on November 7th, 1976. [2] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-2) Smith led the team in rushing in his first four seasons, eventually amassing 3,429 yards and 28 touchdowns in his seven years with the team. He also caught the ball 210 times for a total of 2,445 yards and 10 touchdowns. He played sparingly for the San Diego Chargers.


Speaking of the MAC

QB....Big Ben
RB...Thomas Rawls
RB...James Starks
WR...Julian Edelman
WR...Antonio Brown
TE...Antonio Gates

[Avante]

Since 1990 regular season

The best late season teams left in the playoffs.

Falcons 53-59
Seahawks 62-50
Cowboys 52-54
Packers 76-35
Chiefs 59-52
Steelers 72-40
Pats 77-34
Texans 29-36

Notice the teams with that advantage also are the ones with a SB winning QB?

The only other team that rivals NE, GB, Seattle and Pitt would be the Colts at 70-42.

The Browns bottom feeders at 18-56.

[Darth_Pelican]

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[benefactor]

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[Clipper Nation]

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[Avante]

Ok ok ok, I get it. I'll come down to your guys level and keep it simple and freak out after everything, ok? Sorry for the depth of knowledge, I should have known better.

Keep it simple and HE SUCKS after an INT. Remember a player/team are only as good as their last game. The hell with that body of work, the history of things.

[Avante]

When the Jets beat the Colts in SBIII, they were 18 point dogs.

But Brock Osweiler is no Joe Namath.

The Colts had two slowish white RB's in Tom Matte and Jerry Hil, while the Jets had one of thre best fullback/RB duo in AFL history in blacks Matt Snell (star of the game) and Emerson Boozer.

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The best worst D left in the playoffs....Falcons.

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Tyreek Hill has scored 12 TD's his rookie season, and he's done it rushing/receiving/punt return/KO return. If I'm the Chiefs I get this guy the ball.

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Superbowl winning QB, a guranteed HOFer in a playoff game vs a rookie QB. Think about that.

[benefactor]

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[Avante]

Watching grown men who know they can't hang so they chirp at ya, hahahahaha~~~~~

Cowherd brought up something....

The Packers have been playing with intensity/need for seven weeks, how long ago did the Cowboys play an important game?

[Avante]

If we took the fastest athletes to ever suit up as a Dallas Texan/KC Cheif it would look like this.

lane

1.Ken Thomas 10.0ht SJS
2.Sammie Parker 10.17 Oregon
3.Joe Delaney 9.4 yds NWLa
4.Tyreek Hill 20.14 200m Oklahoma St**********
5.Stone Johnson WR 20.5/Olympian Grambling
6.Jamaal Charles 10.18 Texas
7.Eddie Kennison LSU NFL Fastest Man...winner
8.Warren McVea 9.5 Houston

Only the Raiders with more speed than that.


******* just how fast is a 20.14 which he ran in HS (record 20.13)



Olympic, Rio de Janeiro 2016


1
Usain Bolt (javascript:CheckID(796,'M','MA2'))
JAM
19.78


2
Andre De Grasse (javascript:CheckID(19789,'M','MA2'))
CAN
20.02


3
Christophe Lemaitre (javascript:CheckID(18690,'M','MA2'))
FRA
20.12


4
Adam Gemili (javascript:CheckID(19525,'M','MA2'))
GBR
20.12


5
Churandy Martina (javascript:CheckID(12794,'M','MA2'))
NED
20.13


6
LaShawn Merritt (javascript:CheckID(12799,'M','MA2'))
USA
20.19


7
Alonso Edward (javascript:CheckID(18091,'M','MA2'))
PAN
20.23


8
Ramil Guliyev (javascript:CheckID(18176,'M','MA2'))
TUR
20.43

[Avante]

Remember this when some of you are freaking out early next season. That week to week silliness,:rolleyes

After 10 weeks both the Packers and Steelers were 4-5 (had bye weeks).

[Avante]

Would you guys do me a favor?

How about doing what I do, that being take a few minutes and actually bone up on just what all these QB's have done in their careers before running your mouth about how this guy or that guy did this or that ok? You have any idea how many playoff games the GREAT Tom Brady had where he threw three INT's, hell he threw two vs Texans.

And....

You want to compare Dak Prescott to how the others played at that stage of their career, ok? That's how this works, alright? So tired of reading some idiot like Clipper Nation with no knowledfge at all about any of this stuff running everybody down when in reality they aren't doing anything the greats haven't done also.

Do your homework like I do, ok?

I can do this for just about everyone.

In a 2003 playoff game, Peyton Manning...

comp %...48.9
TD/INT...1-4
QB rating...35.5

In a 2015 playoff game, Tom Brady....

comp%...48.2
TD/INT...1-2
QB rating...56.4

In his playoff history the GREAT Joe Montana had these QB ratings...

39.2
42.0
34.2

HOFer John Elway in his playoff history how times did he have less than a 40% comp %?

Look at that body oif work for any athlete, that's how ya do it, ok? As a rookie Jerry Rice was dropping passes left and right, how'd that turn out?

Jerry Rice, Julio Jones and dropped passes. Even the great Jerry Rice had problems with dropped passes while transitioning to the NFL from college. I had forgotten, also, that Rice suffered a string of drops while transitioning from Joe Montana to Steve Young as his full-time quarterback with the San Francisco 49ers.

[Avante]

By the way....

That Le' Veon Bell style of running won't work in Tecmo Bowl.

[Darth_Pelican]

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[Avante]

Compare....

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Brett Favre
Drew Brees
Tony Romo

...rookie season to what Dak Prescott did in his. Then ya might get it.

This is Tom Brady's third season the first season he started all 16 games, he is now 25.

comp% 62.1
yards 3764
TD/INT...28-14
QB rating..85.7

Prescott

67.8
3667
23-4
104.9

Won't even bring up the huge difference in rushing.

[benefactor]

Get what? The fact that he had one good season? RGIII had a better rookie season than all those guys too.:lol

65.4
3200
20-5
102.4

[pgardn]

Would you guys do me a favor?

How about doing what I do, that being take a few minutes and actually bone up on just what all these QB's have done in their careers before running your mouth about how this guy or that guy did this or that ok? You have any idea how many playoff games the GREAT Tom Brady had where he threw three INT's, hell he threw two vs Texans.

And....

You want to compare Dak Prescott to how the others played at that stage of their career, ok? That's how this works, alright? It works this way for idiots...So tired of reading some idiot like Clipper Nation with no knowledfge at all about any of this stuff running everybody down when in reality they aren't doing anything the greats haven't done also.

Do your homework like I do, ok?

I can do this for just about everyone.

In a 2003 playoff game, Peyton Manning...

comp %...48.9
TD/INT...1-4
QB rating...35.5

In a 2015 playoff game, Tom Brady....

comp%...48.2
TD/INT...1-2
QB rating...56.4

In his playoff history the GREAT Joe Montana had these QB ratings...

39.2
42.0
34.2

HOFer John Elway in his playoff history how times did he have less than a 40% comp %?

Look at that body oif work for any athlete, that's how ya do it, ok? As a rookie Jerry Rice was dropping passes left and right, how'd that turn out?

Jerry Rice, Julio Jones and dropped passes. Even the great Jerry Rice had problems with dropped passes while transitioning to the NFL from college. I had forgotten, also, that Rice suffered a string of drops while transitioning from Joe Montana to Steve Young as his full-time quarterback with the San Francisco 49ers.

Will you do me a favor and look at the offensive lines of all these 1st year QBs.
Like it makes no difference. You focus in on these stats without realizing if OTHER FACTORS were an aide. You don't know football little fella.

[Avante]

Will you do me a favor and look at the offensive lines of all these 1st year QBs.
Like it makes no difference. You focus in on these stats without realizing if OTHER FACTORS were an aide. You don't know football little fella.

Dude, show me anyone who follows the game who doesn;t get the importance of the supporting cast when it comes to talking QB's. It goes without saying. And even you should know that. Been into the game a long time little guy, ok? Can talk about QB's you've never even heard of, trust me.

A RB needs that offensive line or he isn't going anywhere, without pass protection we have no QB's. That really needs to be talked about, really?

Come on little fella, sheesh~~~~~

Unless a kicker has a strong leg, guess what?

Tony Romo would have had that same line and Elliott, so why did he stay on the bench?

[Avante]

Get what? The fact that he had one good season? RGIII had a better rookie season than all those guys too.:lol

65.4
3200
20-5
102.4

RGIII didn't keep Tony Romo on the bench. And his stats weren't as awe insporing as Prescotts.

Bottom line...

Prescott played as well as a ..rookie QB...can play. Nobody had ever done it better.

[Avante]

USC Adoree Jackson will be in the NFL in 2017. You will hear this...."he has world class speed". Trust me, he doesn't. He is a good long jumper at close to 26 feet, the world class cats can jump over 28. He has good speed, Reggie Bush type speed or 10.4ish. World class speed is sub 10.10.

[benefactor]

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[Avante]

chirp chirp

I pity your family, do they know you actually chirp at grown men?

You have any idea how damn stupid that makes you look?

GROW UP~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[benefactor]

Not near as stupid as your lies and shit takes make you look old faggot.

[Avante]

Not near as stupid as your lies and shit takes make you look old faggot.

I don't lie and all my takes are right on the money. Look at yourself ya little shit, who chirps at grown men, are you really that fucked up?

My only problem is I can talk about things dumb fucks like you can't.

[Darth_Pelican]

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[benefactor]

I don't lie
Of course you do. You said you were going to do something and then didn't do it. That's a lie.

[SpursforSix]

I don't lie and all my takes are right on the money. Look at yourself ya little shit, who chirps at grown men, are you really that fucked up?

My only problem is I can talk about things dumb fucks like you can't.

Your Osweiller take is awful.

[Clipper Nation]

I don't lie and all my takes are right on the money.
:lol You literally followed up the phrase "I don't lie" with another lie.

You're a pathological liar.

[Avante]

Of course you do. You said you were going to do something and then didn't do it. That's a lie.

Then you are also a liar. I have never seen any video from you. I did show some videos of my world right here.

Cool this silly..."well so n' so saw it"....yeah right. Let's see it over at the Club, ok?

[benefactor]

Then you are also a liar. I have never seen any video from you. I did show some videos of my world right here.

Cool this silly..."well so n' so saw it"....yeah right. Let's see it over at the Club, ok?

She's verified she saw it multiple times in multiple threads you were a part of. I'm not fucking asking her to come to this thread and AGAIN verify she has it. Hell, it's sitting in my PM's right now. I can send it to anyone.

As I told you, I was going to make the video anyway to document my progress...so I figured why not ask Mr. I'm Old But In Better Shape Than You to give us some proof...proof you agreed to give then backed out on. I don't have any reason to lie like you do. I don't walk around this forum bragging about all my accomplishments or how I look or all the shit I know That's you, old man. If there's a thread about lifting weights I'll contribute.

Here's what I think. I think you probably won all those trophies and own all those books. You seem to know a lot about a lot of stuff. I think you were probably in good shape at one time and now you've let yourself go and you are simply here trying to resurrect someone from the past because internet anonymity will allow it. You got caught up in the moment and thought I was the same as you and went ahead and agreed to the challenge thinking I was some kid on the other end that was fabricating part of my story too. Well turns out I'm not and I called your bluff.

So what are you going to do now? Are you going man up and admit you really aren't in that good of shape anymore? I will give you my word that if you do I won't give you anymore shit and I'll consider our agreement fulfilled. Swallow you pride and tell the fucking truth old man...or make the video and honor our agreement and validate your claims.

[SpursforSix]

Then you are also a liar. I have never seen any video from you. I did show some videos of my world right here.

Cool this silly..."well so n' so saw it"....yeah right. Let's see it over at the Club, ok?

Hey...Crickets McFarty...what happened to your golden boys? Wilson and Osweiler?

[Avante]

Your Osweiller take is awful.

I'm not even talking about Osweiler. I'm talking common sense and football.

O.J.Simpson is entering his 4th season as a Bill, he has never rushed for over 800 yards in a season and there is..."BUST?"...talk. What hapened in year 4?

In Jerry Rice's rookie season he had a ton of drops, was bringing him in a mistake?

Peyton Manning threw how many INTs as a rookie?

Remember the season Nick Foles had? What happened?

I give things some time, I know better than to freak out too early in a game, season, a career. Too many posters here simply don't know any better.

[Avante]

Hey...Crickets McFarty...what happened to your golden boys? Wilson and Osweiler?

Cool the silly name calling and we'll talk.

[Avante]

benefactor

My wife has seen me workout for 30 years.

So I guess that takes care of that, right?

[Avante]

:lol You literally followed up the phrase "I don't lie" with another lie.

You're a pathological liar.

Who needs to lie on the internet? How silly is that? What do you gain by doing that?

[SpursforSix]

I'm not even talking about Osweiler. I'm talking common sense and football.

O.J.Simpson is entering his 4th season as a Bill, he has never rushed for over 800 yards in a season and there is..."BUST?"...talk. What hapened in year 4?

In Jerry Rice's rookie season he had a ton of drops, was bringing him in a mistake?

Peyton Manning threw how many INTs as a rookie?

Remember the season Nick Foles had? What happened?

I give things some time, I know better than to freak out too early in a game, season, a career. Too many posters here simply don't know any better.

Simpson, Manning, and Rice??? You've got two number one picks and a sixteen there. And regardless of their initial problems, they all showed signs of greatness and potential early on. You like to talk about watching the games and players. Well Osweiller has had enough gametime to see that he SUCKS. He's awful. Can he ever become a starting caliber QB? Maybe. A low end starting QB. But there's nothing that suggests he should have been gotten a $72,000,000 contract. It will probably go down as one of the most detrimental moves in NFL history. And it's not like they put him on a team that was building from scratch. He had good weapons. I'm assuming you watched the games? Then you surely saw all of the bubble screen passes where he put the ball a couple of yards short into the ground. With no pressure. Trust me guy...he's fucking terrible for what he's getting paid.

[Avante]

Simpson, Manning, and Rice??? You've got two number one picks and a sixteen there. And regardless of their initial problems, they all showed signs of greatness and potential early on. You like to talk about watching the games and players. Well Osweiller has had enough gametime to see that he SUCKS. He's awful. Can he ever become a starting caliber QB? Maybe. A low end starting QB. But there's nothing that suggests he should have been gotten a $72,000,000 contract. It will probably go down as one of the most detrimental moves in NFL history. And it's not like they put him on a team that was building from scratch. He had good weapons. I'm assuming you watched the games? Then you surely saw all of the bubble screen passes where he put the ball a couple of yards short into the ground. With no pressure. Trust me guy...he's fucking terrible for what he's getting paid.

I get all that. I just have no reason to proclaim the guy anything at this stage of things. I have the time to take a wait and see approach, which experience has proven that is the best way to go with all athletes. Things do/can/have changed dramatically from one season to the next many times. I can give the guy a little more time. What's the rush?

Mike Marsh wasn't even the best sprinter at his HS, that was Henry Thomas.



1988

20.35

21

Eagle Rock CA

May 14



1989

20.42

24

Gainesville FL

Apr 08



1990

20.47

21

Eagle Rock CA

May 12



1991

20.44

23

Rome

Jul 17



1992

19.73

1

Barcelona

**********



1993

20.04

4

Eugene

Jun 18



1995

20.14

5

Brussels

Aug 26



1996

19.88

5

Atlanta

May 18



1997

20.30

16

Ingolstadt

Jul 20



2000

20.26

25

Sacramento

Jul 22






Hr won the Olympic gold medal in 1992. Look at the HUGE difference in his times.

Xavier Carter the LSU flash had never broke 20.00, when,....19.63~~~~~~~~~

I simply know how things work in sports.

Xavier Carter



Year
Result
Place
Venue
Date


2005
20.02
5
Bloomington, IN
May 28


2006
19.63
1
Lausanne
Jul 11


2007
19.92
6
Zürich
Sep 07


2008
20.25
16
Athens, GA
Apr 12


2009
20.27
16
New York City
May 30


2010
20.14
11
Monaco

[SpursforSix]

I get all that. I just have no reason to proclaim the guy anything at this stage of things. I have the time to take a wait and see approach, which experience has proven that is the best way to go with all athletes. Things do/can/have changed dramatically from one season to the next many times. I can give the guy a little more time. What's the rush?

No rush for me. The rush is for the Houston Texans who gave him a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money to be their #1 QB. Great defense, good offensive weapons. They need to make something happen with all of that.

Give me a 2nd round QB that turned out to be a star after being so terrible on the field for 2 years. Maybe you can. I really can't think of any.

[Avante]

No rush for me. The rush is for the Houston Texans who gave him a ridiculous amount of guaranteed money to be their #1 QB. Great defense, good offensive weapons. They need to make something happen with all of that.

Give me a 2nd round QB that turned out to be a star after being so terrible on the field for 2 years. Maybe you can. I really can't think of any.

Just seen way too much football, to...HE SUCKS....without giving an athlete some time. Look at Matt Ryan's 2016, after all those years why is he playing better now? SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many QB's took a few seasons to get it going. I have no reason to..HE SUCKS...in his first season as "Da Man". WHY, would I do that knowing what I do?

[SpursforSix]

Just seen way too much football, to...HE SUCKS....without giving an athlete some time. Look at Matt Ryan's 2016, after all those years why is he playing better now? SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO many QB's took a few seasons to get it going. I have no reason to..HE SUCKS...in his first season as "Da Man". WHY, would I do that knowing what I do?

Ryan is playing better now because he's in the 2nd year of an offensive system that plays to his strengths. He looked good for a large portion of last year. But this year, he's got a better line, two healthy pass catching RB's, and several good to great receivers. But even at his worst, he generally passed the eye test about being a good QB. And there wasn't much doubt he was a solid starter. Osweiller doesn't even pass the eye test to be a starter. Surely he'll get better. But he just doesn't have what it takes to be an elite QB.

[Avante]

Ryan is playing better now because he's in the 2nd year of an offensive system that plays to his strengths. He looked good for a large portion of last year. But this year, he's got a better line, two healthy pass catching RB's, and several good to great receivers. But even at his worst, he generally passed the eye test about being a good QB. And there wasn't much doubt he was a solid starter. Osweiller doesn't even pass the eye test to be a starter. Surely he'll get better. But he just doesn't have what it takes to be an elite QB.

Where did I ever even hint he was ever going to be an elite QB? Yes, he will never be worth that kind of $$$$$$. But to play this...HE JUST SUCKS...with his small amount of time as a starter, I know better than to play that.

In his second season Ryan had a 58.3 comp %, This season Osweilier...59.0. In his first season as "Da Man", Peyton had a 56 comp % and 28 INT's.

[SpursforSix]

Where did I ever even hint he was ever going to be an elite QB? Yes, he will never be worth that kind of $$$$$$. But to play this...HE JUST SUCKS...with his small amount of time as a starter, I know better than to play that.

You get rated based on expectations. He's getting paid damn near top tier QB money. He turns in QB2 performances. He sucks.

[Avante]

You get rated based on expectations. He's getting paid damn near top tier QB money. He turns in QB2 performances. He sucks.

LaDainian Tomlinson averaged 3.9 his rookie season.

Believe what ya like, I go with what experience has taught me.

[SpursforSix]

LaDainian Tomlinson averaged 3.9 his rookie season.

Believe what ya like, I go with what experience has taught me.

That's only 10% below his career average. Osweiller has an average QB rating of 77.4 for his career.

[benefactor]

benefactor

My wife has seen me workout for 30 years.

So I guess that takes care of that, right?
That's right...run away like you always do you old, fat motherfucker.

[Clipper Nation]

Who needs to lie on the internet? How silly is that? What do you gain by doing that?

You do it because it gets you the attention that you clearly don't get offline. You're also a narcissist, so lying comes with the territory. Especially lying to make yourself look much better than you actually are.

[Clipper Nation]

benefactor

My wife has seen me workout for 30 years.

So I guess that takes care of that, right?

Fat, welching old faggot.

[Avante]

That's right...run away like you always do you old, fat motherfucker.

I'm just doing what you did, ya little freak.

I did post some videos, what have you done, yep....0.

[Avante]

Fat, welching old faggot.

Tell us all again about how Rex is exposing the Raiders, ya fucking moron.

How stupid was this..."ha, he muffed a punt".....hahahaha~~~

And, will you ever pick games BEFORE the game?

Dude, you gotta be about the dumbest poster here. STILL can't figure out there are 4 quarters in a football game.

[Avante]

That Blount/Lewis RB combo for the Pats, the new...

Jim Brown/Bobby Mitchell
Larry Csonka/Mercury Morris
Mike Alstott/Warrick Dunn

...yep, Thunder & Lightnin'

How many starting RB's were also kickoff returners? I know, ya don't know.

[benefactor]

I'm just doing what you did, ya little freak.

I did post some videos, what have you done, yep....0.

Because despite all of your overconfident bragging about your appearance(continually calling people "little man" and shit like that), you couldn't honor a simple agreement with me. You agreed to it but as soon as I told you I had a video made(one that has been seen by posters here...people who know me from outside of here and can verify it's me) you started panicking when you realized I wasn't full of shit like you are. You've continually deflected and you keep going back to paper thin arguments to keep from doing it(like your pics of your trophies and weights, which have nothing to do with our agreement) and using excuses like "you won't believe it's me" when it's easy as fuck to identify yourself in a video(we know your name is Lawrence, so just say Lawrence before you start the lift).

You are a fucking liar. This is why people keep making fun of you. Now cue more deflections and lies...it's all you have left.

[Avante]

Dude, are you really this totally fucked up? Do you really think anyone is going to take the time to do all that so a freak like you can ...."that isn't you".....really, come on guy. You work way too hard at this....you are fat, ugly, stink, short, stupid.....because I know all this stuff and make ya look stupid. No way in hell you are ever going to...."damn guy, you weren't bullshitting were you?"....and you make that real obvious. I MUST be a fat fuck, an idiot. You NEED that because ya can't stand the fact I can talk circles around anyone here when it comes to most things.

Dude, GROW THE FUCK UP...ok?

I posted about a dozen pictures of my books, muscic, weights, stuff. What have you ever done, yep...0. And no I don't believe you ever had any video, I think you are a liar.

Let's see ya do what I did, post some pictures guy, ok?

Starting lifting at 15 for football, and simply never stopped (other than boot camp, then I did pushups.pullups.squats) and look what a guy who has been at it 50 years should look like, got it? Why would some fat fuck know about how to built the body, which you;'ve read me break down more than once.

You;re a little fucking freak asshole, ok?

[benefactor]

Dude, are you really this totally fucked up? Do you really think anyone is going to take the time to do all that so a freak like you can ...."that isn't you".....really, come on guy. You work way too hard at this....you are fat, ugly, stink, short, stupid.....because I know all this stuff and make ya look stupid. No way in hell you are ever going to...."damn guy, you weren't bullshitting were you?"....and you make that real obvious. I MUST be a fat fuck, an idiot. You NEED that because ya can't stand the fact I can talk circles around anyone here when it comes to most things.

Dude, GROW THE FUCK UP...ok?

I posted about a dozen pictures of my books, muscic, weights, stuff. What have you ever done, yep...0. And no I don't believe you ever had any video, I think you are a liar.

Let's see ya do what I did, post some pictures guy, ok?

Starting lifting at 15 for football, and simply never stopped (other than boot camp, then I did pushups.pullups.squats) and look what a guy who has been at it 50 years should look like, got it? Why would some fat fuck know about how to built the body, which you;'ve read me break down more than once.

You;re a little fucking freak asshole, ok?
The truth is a beautiful thing...but alas...


You are a fucking liar. This is why people keep making fun of you. Now cue more deflections and lies...it's all you have left.
:wakeup

[Avante]

The truth is a beautiful thing...but alas...

:wakeup

Dude, this is a football forum, ok? Nobody cares about your personal problems, ok? Talk football or shut the fuck up, got it?

Look at how ya act, and I'm suppose to care about pleasing a freak like you, :rolleyes

[Avante]

Why the Packers don't use Jeff Janis more remains a mystery to me. He is their fastest receiver, yep, faster than Nelson. Not talking running routes, I am talking strecthing the field with the occasional target.

Maybe this will be the game they need him.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DT47wkQyET0

[Avante]

We always hear about how Elliott was a HS hurdler, what we are never told is Le' Veon Bell was a 6-8 high jumper in HS. Which is superior to what Elliott ran in the hurdles.

I can't think of any other RB's other than decathlete Milt Campbell (Browns/Indiana) who high jumped.

We have had some WR/high jumpers.

Alvin Harper
Carl Pickens
Herman Moore
Donald Driver

Randall Cunningham high jumped.

Jim Thorpe high jumped, just remembered him.

[SpursforSix]

We always hear about how Elliott was a HS hurdler, what we are never told is Le' Veon Bell was a 6-8 high jumper in HS. Which is superior to what Elliott ran in the hurdles.

I can't think of any other RB's other than decathlete Milt Campbell (Browns/Indiana) who high jumped.

We have had some WR/high jumpers.

Alvin Harper
Carl Pickens
Herman Moore

Randall Cunningham high jumped.

Jim Thorpe high jumped, just remembered him.

All other things being equal, I'd rather have an RB that can hurdle people at a high speed than one that can make an unnatural football move and clear a bar.

[Avante]

All other things being equal, I'd rather have an RB that can hurdle people at a high speed than one that can make an unnatural football move and clear a bar.

Well then you'd love these RB's who all ran the hurdles.


Tyrone Wheatley Michigan
James Owens UCLA
Jim Thorpe Carlisle
Milt Campbell Indiana
Roger Craig Nebraska
Bobby Mitchell Illinois
Paul Lowe Oregon State
Hugh"The King" McElhenny Washington
Mel Renfro Oregon
Paul Robinson Arizona.....400m hurdler
Jamaal Charles Texas
Todd Gurley Georgia

(some were just HS hurdlers)

RB/long jumpers

Terry Metcalf Long Beach State
Eric Metcalf Texas (yep, his son)
"Jaguar" Jon Arnett USC

[Avante]

The old AFL KC Chiefs would move the pocket with Len Dawson who was mobile. They'd slide to the right then the left, then not do either. What they did to a pass rush was confuse them, and when off to the right or left there went half that rush. We are seeing some of that with the Packers and why more teams don't use that technique...??? Slide away from their stud pass rusher. Hard to have an effective blitz when ya don't know where the QB will be.

Wiki

A pinpoint passer, Dawson's mobility helped him flourish in Stram's "moving pocket" offense. He would win four AFL passing titles and was selected as a league All-Star six times, ending the 10-year run of the league as its highest-rated career passer. From 1962 to 1969, Dawson threw more touchdown passes (182) than any other professional football quarterback during that time

[benefactor]

chirp chirp

[Avante]

chirp chirp

Then ya wonder why I was never going to waste any time on a freak like you.

I pity your family guy.

[benefactor]

^


You are a fucking liar. This is why people keep making fun of you. Now cue more deflections and lies...it's all you have left.

[Avante]

^

Talk football guy, nobody cares about your personal problems, ok?

GROW UP~~~~

[Avante]

I like to give prdictions BEFORE a game, funny that way.

So far 7-1.

The Pats at home in a playoff game, nuff said. NE wins.

I want to see the Aaron Rodgers vs Tom Brady (we all do outside the south) BUT....without Jordy Nelson and a lot of the Packers nursing this and that atlment I can't see them matching the speed of the Falcons. They might be the fastest team in the NFL and they play in a dome. So if the Packers do win I get what I want (Jeff Janis would be the surprise star) if the Falcons win then I hit another winner.

I do have a hard time seeing....New England Patriots vs Atlanta Falcons....as our SB. Looks better with Green Bay there.

Imagine if GRONK were playing. Three white receivers out there with a white TE. Can't recall ever seeing that.(in my football days)

[benefactor]

chirp chirp

[Avante]

Then ya wonder why ya get treated like ya do.

GROW UP~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[benefactor]

chirp chirp

[Avante]

translation

Hey Avante, what would the all time NFL 200m look like?


Here ya go little man.


lane

1.Michael Bates...Seahawks...Olympic bronze
2.Larry Burton....Saints...Olympic final
3.Bob Hayes...Cowboys...WR 20.5
4.Henry Carr...Giants...Olympic gold medalist/WR 20.2
5.Tommie Smith....Bengals...Olympic gold medalist/WR 19.83
6.Ray Norton...Niners...Olympic final....WR 20.5
7.Tyreek Hill...Chiefs...20.13
8.James Jett...Raiders...20.14

Keep chirping little guy I love to show off.

[benefactor]

chirp chirp

[Avante]

Trolling this little shit, hahahaha~~~~

Dude, STOP IT, STOP CHIRPING, IT DRIVES ME CRAZY.

This is too easy, messing with freaks in hiding, hahahaha~~~~

[Avante]

Pay attention....

High school football is where the NCAA gets their players, the NFL gets their players from the NCAA.

Now think just a little bit, ok?

Colleges are only as good as the HS players they recruit. The NFL teams only as good as the NCAA players they can sign.

So anyone....hahahahahah high school.....is one huge idiot.

[SpursforSix]

translation

Hey Avante, what would the all time NFL 200m look like?


Here ya go little man.


lane

1.Michael Bates...Seahawks...Olympic bronze
2.Larry Burton....Saints...Olympic final
3.Bob Hayes...Cowboys...WR 20.5
4.Henry Carr...Giants...Olympic gold medalist/WR 20.2
5.Tommie Smith....Bengals...Olympic gold medalist/WR 19.83
6.Ray Norton...Niners...Olympic final....WR 20.5
7.Tyreek Hill...Chiefs...20.13
8.James Jett...Raiders...20.14

Keep chirping little guy I love to show off.

who the fuck cares. when is an NFL player....going to...run...200 meters?

[Avante]

who the fuck cares. when is an NFL player....going to...run...200 meters?

How many times have we been told about Ezekial Elliotts track days in Missouri? How many times have we heard....he has world class speed...? When most the time no they don't.

I need to know it all, so I do.

Who cares about how many times some preacher farts, yet you made a thread about it....right? Do I really have to bump up all your threads nobody gave a fuck about?

[SpursforSix]

How many times have we been told about Ezekial Elliotts track days in Missouri? How many times have we heard....he has world class speed...? When most the time no they don't.

I need to know it all, so I do.

Who cares about how many times some preacher farts, yet you made a thread about it....right? Do I really have to bump up all your threads nobody gave a fuck about?

A couple hundred people checked out that thread. My guess is that some had a good laugh at it. But I don't give a shit if no one responds in it. What would I expect them to say? I'm not looking for any big discussion on Robert Tilton farting.

[Avante]

A couple hundred people checked out that thread. My guess is that some had a good laugh at it. But I don't give a shit if no one responds in it. What would I expect them to say? I'm not looking for any big discussion on Robert Tilton farting.

Dude, you of all people really are in no position to play critic, ok?


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265470&p=8844166#post8844166

Who really gives a shit what you like on tv?

[Avante]

We could be looking at...

RGIII Browns
Tyrod Taylor Bills
Teddy Bridgewater Viking
Colin Kaepernick Niners
Russell Wison Seahawks
Jameis Winston Buc's
Cam Newton Panthers
Geno Smith Jets
Dak Prescott Cowboys

How many black QB's 10 years ago in the NFL?

[SpursforSix]

Dude, you of all people really are in no position to play critic, ok?


http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=265470&p=8844166#post8844166

Who really gives a shit what you like on tv?

Probably twice as many than those that give a shit about your version of the fastest 200m players that were in the NFL. Got it?

[SpursforSix]

We could be looking at...

RGIII Browns
Tyrod Taylor Bills
Teddy Bridgewater Viking
Colin Kaepernick Niners
Russell Wison Seahawks
Jameis Winston Buc's
Cam Newton Panthers
Geno Smith Jets
Dak Prescott Cowboys

How many black QB's 10 years ago in the NFL?

It's a list of mostly average QBs that haven't been able to have continued success. Of course, I hope that Dak is an exception.

[Avante]

It's a list of mostly average QBs that haven't been able to have continued success. Of course, I hope that Dak is an exception.

Russell Wilson is the most successful QB in history after five seasons.

Newton an NFL MVP.

So keep it real.

My point was we have never seen that many black QB's starting in the NFL before the last few seasons. So what is the message there?

[Avante]

Due to injuries I keep seeing "White Lightnin' " Jeff Janis (Packers) playing some role. For some reason I see him making some impact, good or bad.

[Clipper Nation]

We could be looking at...

RGIII Browns
Tyrod Taylor Bills
Teddy Bridgewater Viking
Colin Kaepernick Niners
Russell Wison Seahawks
Jameis Winston Buc's
Cam Newton Panthers
Geno Smith Jets
Dak Prescott Cowboys

Trash
Game manager
Game manager
Trash
Game manager
Potentially elite QB
Game manager
Trash
Game manager

[Avante]

Trash
Game manager
Game manager
Trash
Game manager
Potentially elite QB
Game manager
Trash
Game manager

All put white QB's on the bench, right? And, more are on their way to do the same thing.

More black HS QB's means more NCAA black QB's, which means what?

Alabama with a black QB, the Dallas Cowboys with a black QB.(yes I know about Q)

I don't think you are really aware of just how dramatic it's getting at the HS level with black QB's. Trust me, the game is changing.

I know, I know, you don't get it and will probably not even look.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56oQbm-yHyY


Why not cool the silly internet BS and accept the fact I follow this stuff and learn something, ok? Those days of the unathetic white QB standing tall in the pocket are coming to an end, ok?

[Clipper Nation]

:lol Dramatic!

Wake me up when any of these guys make it to the pros and are successful past the point where defensive coordinators have all the tape on them.

[Avante]

[QUOTE=Clipper Nation;8870891 Dramatic!

Wake me up when any of these guys make it to the pros and are successful past the point where defensive coordinators have all the tape on them.[/QUOTE]

As ya totally ignore what is being said, sheesh~~~~~

Dude, you really don;'t get it, really? Wow~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bone up on HS QB's, yep....like Avante. Even you will get what is going on, it's happening right now guy. As you will see.

Where is the white RB, well? The white cornerback?

Hell, I can remember...

Keith Lincoln Chargers
Nick Pietrasonte Lions
Jon Arnett Rams
Rick Casares Bears
Don Bosseler Redskins
Ken Willard Niners
Jim Taylor/Paul Hornung Packers
Frank Gifford/Alex Webster Giants
Alan Ameche Colts
Bill Brown/Tommy Mason Vikes
Walt Garrison Cowboys
Wray Carlton Bils
Mark Smolinski Jets
Tom Woodeshick Eagles
John David Crow Cards

all white RB's, what happened?

[SpursforSix]

Bone up on HS QB's, yep....like Avante.

Ha. Classic.

[Avante]

Ha. Classic.

Dude, just how damn stupid are you?

[Clipper Nation]

Bone up on HS QB's, yep....like Avante.

Only a sicko would brag about "boning up" on high schoolers at your age.

[Avante]

Only a sicko would brag about "boning up" on high schoolers at your age.

Only a total idiot would get that out of what I said. That right there is why I treat like a moron.

Stupid, it all starts with HS football, what goes on there is what we will be seeing down the road, if you're too stupid to understand that I'm not at all surprised.

I can see it now...

CN...so she is your girlfriend, right?
friend...nope, just a friend.
CN...she is a girl right, and your friend so...girlfriend.
friend....:rolleyes

[benefactor]

This is too easy, messing with freaks in hiding, hahahaha~~~~
crofl pot meet kettle

[benefactor]

Let's not forget who has been running from who.

[Avante]

Let's not forget who has been running from who.

Dude, just talk football ok? Nobody cares about your personal problems ok guy?

And stop disrespecting everyone threads with your bullshit, ok?

All you are doing is showing everyone just how seriously fucked up you really are, ok?

Yes, I did think you were just some young idiot hiding behind a computer, well what do ya know, I was right.

[Avante]

I was a running back, and even today I still have those quicks and short range burst. And like all RB's if asked...."what do you think about"....you say..."I don't, it's all instincts".

Then here comes Le' Veon Bell. What he does is totally unique, never seen anything like it and it goes against everything a RB is taught, which is hit the hole as fast as you can, because it won't be there long.

To hesitate, looking for an opening.....it's crazy, but, he makes it work, yep, totally amazing.

The first great Steeler RB was actually a fullback (former Niner) John Henry Johnson (first 1000 yard rusher, HOFer) he was known as the meanest offensive player in the NFL. He had a wicked forearm shiver and loved to use to. It was Jim Brown, Jim Taylor then John Henry Johnson. Being a HS decathlete he was a great all around athlete, and a great combo of size, speed and power, especially for the times.

[benefactor]

Dude, just talk football ok? Nobody cares about your personal problems ok guy?

And stop disrespecting everyone threads with your bullshit, ok?

All you are doing is showing everyone just how seriously fucked up you really are, ok?

Yes, I did think you were just some young idiot hiding behind a computer, well what do ya know, I was right.
No...I have a video and you don't...because you are full of shit. Now run away old man, it's what you do best.

[Avante]

I ain't seen you do shit guy but run your big mouth and no....well so n; so saw it....doesn't work, ok? You are nothing but a fucking liar and an asshole, ok?

I posted pictures here, what have you done, yep...nothing.

Now stop bugging evereybody with your lies and little man ways, ok asshole?

chirp chirp...... at a grown man, are you really this fucked up?

[benefactor]

I posted pictures here, what have you done, yep...nothing.


You've continually deflected and you keep going back to paper thin arguments to keep from doing it(like your pics of your trophies and weights, which have nothing to do with our agreement) and using excuses like "you won't believe it's me" when it's easy as fuck to identify yourself in a video(we know your name is Lawrence, so just say Lawrence before you start the lift).

You are a fucking liar. This is why people keep making fun of you. Now cue more deflections and lies...it's all you have left.
You gonna keep moving in circles or you gonna sack up and do what you said you'd do?

Oh wait...I already know the answer to that question. Carry on.

[benefactor]

You want to talk football? How about you are Christian Okoye and I'm Steve Atwater. You were running through this forum unchecked until I met you in the hole. Now you know you're fucked and all you can do is dance around and make excuses for why you got dropped.

[Clipper Nation]

You want to talk football? How about you are Christian Okoye and I'm Steve Atwater. You were running through this forum unchecked until I met you in the hole. Now you know you're fucked and all you can do is dance around and make excuses for why you got dropped.
http://i.imgur.com/MrGIH5C.jpg

[Avante]

You want to talk football? How about you are Christian Okoye and I'm Steve Atwater. You were running through this forum unchecked until I met you in the hole. Now you know you're fucked and all you can do is dance around and make excuses for why you got dropped.

No excuses, I never had any intentions of posting any pictures of me under a bench. I was just trolling ya and had no idea you'd totally freak out like some freak over it. If I'd known you were this totally fucked up I never would have said anything about my weight training routine.

Dude, look at how you are acting over this, are you fucking kidding me?

But, I don't believe you have a video anyway, so we really are even. And will be until we see that video.

Why would somebody who doesn't lift know so much about it like I do? Why would a non lifter even care about sets, reps, progressive weight additions, shrugs, flyes, wide/narrow grip bench, concentration curls? Sergio Oliva, Larry Scott, Bill Pearl, Steve Reeves, Reg Parks, hell....Eugene Sandow. Ever read Arnolds book on bodybuilding? Hell, Frank Zane, Dave Draper, Ronnie Coleman. Why do I know of those guys? Franco Columbo, Robbie Robertson, etc etc etc.....

Dude, following me around chirping, is your way of...what? You really that stupid?

I;m an x-footballer/sprinter who has this thing about knowing all there is about my interests, which include them old blues , rasslin'. And I have this trip about muscles, love the feel of big and strong.

Now chirp chirp for me ya little bitch.

Steve Reeves and this guy, my two big inspirations when I was starting out.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9UxGX8GI_l4

[Avante]

For some unknown reason I keep seeing little used Jeff Janis making some impact on the game for the Packers. Just a gut feeling.

[Avante]

Speaking of Christian Okoye. He attended tiny Azusa Pacific here in Cali, he threw the discus and ran on the 4x1 team, what a strange combo. I've sat four feet from him at a track meet. Massive thighs.

Azusa has this thing with Nigerian athletes, they also had Olympians Davidson Ezinwa and Innocent Igbunike (and a few others).

[benefactor]

No excuses, I never had any intentions of posting any pictures of me under a bench. I was just trolling ya
:cry I was just trolling :cry

:lol playing the most desperate internet card available

I really do have you running scared, don't I thickness?

[Avante]

:cry I was just trolling :cry

:lol playing the most desperate internet card available

I really do have you running scared, don't I thickness?

Replace words like....desperate...and ...running scared...with...laughing my ass off....and....you are being worked son...and ya got it.

But whatever ya do just don't...chirp, chirp.....hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

[DeadlyDynasty]

chirp chirp

[Avante]

chirp chirp

You really this simple?

[Avante]

If McCaffrey ends up a Patriot.

QB...Tom Brady
RB...Chris McCaffrey
WR...Chris Hogan
WR...Julian Edelman
Slot...Danny Amadola
TE...GRONK

We;d have to go all the way back to the 50's, to see an all white attack like that.

[DeadlyDynasty]

If McCaffrey ends up a Patriot.

QB...Tom Brady
RB...Chris McCaffrey
WR...Chris Hogan
WR...Julian Edelman
Slot...Danny Amadola
TE...GRONK

We;d have to go all the way back to the 50's, to see an all white attack like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRTMWzVoT_U

[Avante]

The great white receivers after 1960.

Fred Biletnikoff Raiders
Lance Alworth Chargers
Ray Berry Colts
Steve Largent Seahawks
Don Maynard Jets
Tommy McDonald Eagles

All in the HOF

now add good receivers....

Sonny Randle, Bobby Joe Conrad Cards (there together)
Dwight Clark Niners
Jack Snow Rams
George Sauer Jets (there with Maynard)
Johnny Morris Bears
Gary Collins Browns
Buddy Dial Steelers
Del Shofner Giants
Carroll Dale, Boyd Dowker Packers (there together)

[spurraider21]

chirp chirp

[Avante]

chirp chirp

Come on little fella, you really this immature?

[benefactor]

chirp chirp

[Avante]

Then ya wonder why I saw you as just some dumb kid talking shit in hiding. Yep, nailed it.

You belong to me son.

[Avante]

Only QB to beat Tom Brady in 2016 will be Russell Wilson.

[benefactor]

You belong to me son.

Let's not forget who has been running from who.

[Avante]

I'm right here little fella, I'm not the one hiding behind...chirping...like some little kid, that's you.

Dude, how about talking football on this forum, nobody cares about your personal problems, ok?

Are you simply retarded?

[benefactor]

I'm right here little fella, I'm not the one hiding


No excuses, I never had any intentions of posting any pictures of me under a bench.
:lol

[Avante]

:lol

Worked ya like the little bitch ya are, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~

Now look at ya, totally owned.

[benefactor]

Worked ya like the little bitch ya are, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~

Now look at ya, totally owned.


:cry I was just trolling :cry

:lol playing the most desperate internet card available

I really do have you running scared, don't I thickness?

[Avante]

Poor little guy,

[benefactor]

Poor little guy,

You were running through this forum unchecked until I met you in the hole. Now you know you're fucked and all you can do is dance around and make excuses for why you got dropped.

[Avante]

And you used to spend your time here talking to everyone now all ya do is follow Avante around like some queer. What an amazing troll job I laid on ya, and it was so damn easy, hahahaha~~~~

[DeadlyDynasty]

Avante what are your thoughts on Corey Davis? Can he dominate at the next level?

[Avante]

Avante what are your thoughts on Corey Davis? Can he dominate at the next level?

I;m thinking Marshall was in the MAC when Moss was there, and we know Antonio Brown was.

He comes out of the college game just as revered.

At 6-3(have heard 6-2) with good speed*** what's not to like? Not sure we can go with...dominate...but there is little doubt he will make a roster and be productive.

*** a 4.45ish cat, which isn't a burner but fast enought.

[benefactor]

And you used to spend your time here talking to everyone now all ya do is follow Avante around like some queer. What an amazing troll job I laid on ya, and it was so damn easy, hahahaha~~~~
Sounds like panic in your voice.

:cry I was just trolling :cry

:lol playing the most desperate internet card available

I really do have you running scared, don't I thickness?

[benefactor]

Anyway...I've proven what needs to be proved about you. Nothing else needs to be said. Your continued "ha ha I trolled you" shit just reeks of desperation...some kind of pitiful last ditch effort to save face.

Baiting you was too easy. I actually do lift weights so I knew you wouldn't deliver because only fake internet life people talk as much as you do about themselves. I set the hook and you've been running ever since. Now respond again with one of your weak, regurgitated cut and paste responses. It won't change the truth about you and how I proved you were full of shit.

[Avante]

Anyway...I've proven what needs to be proved about you. Nothing else needs to be said. Your continued "ha ha I trolled you" shit just reeks of desperation...some kind of pitiful last ditch effort to save face.

Baiting you was too easy. I actually do lift weights so I knew you wouldn't deliver because only fake internet life people talk as much as you do about themselves. I set the hook and you've been running ever since. Now respond again with one of your weak, regurgitated cut and paste responses. It won't change the truth about you and how I proved you were full of shit.


All you actually did was show everyone just how totally fucked up you really are. My God guy look how you carried on and on and on over silly internet bullshit. You look like a fucking freak.

Dude, I started lifting for football at 15 and never stopped. now am I going to go to some gym, need spotters, somebody to take some pictures to satisfy some punk ass freak like you, hell no.

I exposed you for the freak ya are ya little shit which was what I set out to do, and it was so damn easy.

Now wimper around and chirp chirp which shows everyone how badly Avante whipped your ass, ok?

[Darth_Pelican]

chirp chirp

[benefactor]

chirp chirp
:tu

[Clipper Nation]

All you actually did was show everyone just how totally fucked up you really are. My God guy look how you carried on and on and on over silly internet bullshit. You look like a fucking freak.

Dude, I started lifting for football at 15 and never stopped. now am I going to go to some gym, need spotters, somebody to take some pictures to satisfy some punk ass freak like you, hell no.

I exposed you for the freak ya are ya little shit which was what I set out to do, and it was so damn easy.

Now wimper around and chirp chirp which shows everyone how badly Avante whipped your ass, ok?

cluck cluck

[Avante]

cluck cluck

Of all the posters here I get more chuckles out of you than anyone else. You try so damn hard and it's fucking funny watching ya.

[Darth_Pelican]

cluck cluck

[Blake]

cluck cluck

[benefactor]

cluck cluck

[Avante]

Until you show us all that video, shut the fuck up.

[clambake]

tuff guy

[Avante]

tuff guy

We have a freak in benfactor running his mouth when he hasn't done shit. Where is this video, yep, there isn't one.

[Avante]

Top 10 NFL QB's from non Power Five conferences

1. Joe Montana ND
2. Brett Favre So Miss
3. Big Ben Miami Ohio
4. Steve Young BYU
5. Roger Staubach Navy
6. Kurt Warner Northern Iowa
7. Tony Romo Eastern Illinois
8. Terry Bradshaw La Tech
9. Randall Cunningham UNLV
10. Joe Flacco Delaware St

Must mention...

Steve McNair Alcorn
Phil Simms Morehouse
Ken Anderson Augustana
Joe Thiesman ND
Doug Williams Grambling
Derek Carr Fresno St
Daryl Lamonica ND

Running Backs

1.Walter Payton Jackson St
2.Eric Dickerson SMU
3.Jerome Bettis ND
4.Marshall Faulk SDS
5.Leroy Kelly Morgan St
6.Joe "Jet' Perry Compton JC................first Niner/black 1000yder, first consecutive 1000yd seasons.
7.Wilbert Montgomery ACU
8.Christian "Nigerian Nightmare" Okoye Azusa Pacific
9.Marion Motley Reno
10.Chris Warren Furman

Must mention...

Cookie Gilchrist no college................first Bills 1000yder
Mack "The Truck" Lee Hill (monster) Southern U
David Johnson Northern Iowa
J.D. Smith NCA&T
Calvin Hill Yale.....................first Cowboys 1000yder
Eugene "Mercury" Morris WTS
Abner Haynes North Texas St............first Chief 1000yder
Terry Metcalf Long Beach St
Lavonia "Stump" Mitchell The Citadel
Dick Bass UOP................first Ram 1000yder
Timmy Brown Ball St
Don Perkins New Mexico
Emerson Boozer MES
Clemon Daneils PV..............first Raider 1000yder

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Have to put McNair over Flacco for now. Flacco had one great year among many sucky ones.

[Avante]

Have to put McNair over Flacco for now. Flacco had one great year among many sucky ones.

McNair

comp% 60.1
TD/INT 174/119
QB rating 82.8

Flacco

61.5
184/117
84.5

What are you looking at?

[Avante]

At no position do we find more great players out of the non POWER FIVE conferences than at wide receiver.


No rankings just a mention.

Jerry Rice Mississippi Valley
Randy Moss Marshall
Terrell Owens Chattanooga
Tim Brown ND
Isacc Bruce Memphis
Bob Hayes FAMU
Charlie Joiner Grambling
Antonio Brown Central Michigan
John Stallworth Alabama St
Charley Hennighan Northwestern St
Steve Largent Houston
John Taylor Delaware St
Otis Taylor PV
Don Maynard UTEP
Rod Smith Missouri Southern
Art Powell SJS
Harold Carmichael Southern U
Harold Jackson Jackson State
Homer Jones/Ken Burrough/Warren Wells Texas Southern
Henry Ellard Fresno St
Julian Edelman Kent St
Elbert "Golden Wheels" Dubenion Blufton
Andre Reed Kutztown

Ten HOFers up there.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

McNair was more consistent. BDF had one amazing year (2012), what has he done for us recently?

[Avante]

McNair was more consistent. BDF had one amazing year (2012), what has he done for us recently?

Start at 2012 and look what he's done since then.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FlacJo00.htm

[Avante]

What non POWER FIVE school had three 1000 yards in a season receivers and a 1000 yard RB among the alum? Talking in the pro game.

[Avante]

I know, I know, you don't know.

Who?

1. I blocked a field goal standing under the crossbar?

2. I had never played RB until my rookie NFL season, gained over 1000 yards?

3. I handed off to three HOF to be RB's, all there together?

4. I was the first HBCU RB to have a 1000 yard NFL season?

5. I beat Bob Hayes in the 200m in college?

6. I also beat Bob Hayes in college in the 200m?

[Darth_Pelican]

I know, I know, you don't know.

Who?

1. I blocked a field goal standing under the crossbar?

2. I had never played RB until my rookie NFL season, gained over 1000 yards?

3. I handed off to three HOF to be RB's, all there together?

4. I was the first HBCU RB to have a 1000 yard NFL season?

5. I beat Bob Hayes in the 200m in college?

6. I also beat Bob Hayes in college in the 200m?

1. Chirp chirp
2. Cluck cluck
3. Chirp chirp cluck cluck
4. Chirp Cluck
5. Cluck chirp
6. Cluck cluck chirp chirp

[Avante]

1. Chirp chirp
2. Cluck cluck
3. Chirp chirp cluck cluck
4. Chirp Cluck
5. Cluck chirp
6. Cluck cluck chirp chirp

Ok, we get it, ya don't know shit.

[Avante]

If......no Patriots get arrested, die, injured before the SB I pick them to win. If......things stay as they are right now, they are my pick.

So who has the balls to take the Falcons and wager self bannishment on the NFL forum until Sept 1st?

[Avante]

After today I'll be gone for a week, might not make it back in time for the SB.

So who has the balls to back the Falcons?

[clambake]

After today I'll be gone for a week

taken judy out for another mud slide?

[Avante]

taken judy out for another mud slide?

Do you ever talk about what a thread or post is actually about? You just ramble off into your own little world, why?

Dude, this is a forum talking football, ok? Now think ya dumb fuck....ok?

I was going to ignore your dumb ass but being bored...........

[clambake]

Do you ever talk about what a thread or post is actually about?

yeah, you said u r gone for a week and i guessed you were taking judy for another mud slide.

i like how you use "mud slide" as a metaphor

[Avante]

yeah, you said u r gone for a week and i guessed you were taking judy for another mud slide.

i like how you use "mud slide" as a metaphor

Starting right now, unless you are talking football on this forum you will be totally ignored, ok?

[Clipper Nation]

Oh look, Crickets is pulling the "starting now, I'm changing my ways" card for the trillionth time in the last four years. Gee, I wonder how this will end?

[Avante]

Oh look, Crickets is pulling the "starting now, I'm changing my ways" card for the trillionth time in the last four years. Gee, I wonder how this will end?

That wasn't about Avante, that was about clambake. I said nothing about Avante doing anything other than ignoring the guys bullshit.

This is funny...

Avante...so who were those two white receivers who had 1000 yard seasons on the same team in the same season?
somebody...chirp chirp
Avante....so ya dont know?
somebody...this Avante, always causng trouble.

I make every attempt to just talk football.

[Avante]

ONE MORE TIME

I have the Pats and will wager 7 months self bannishment from this forum. Back on Sept 1.

Any Falcon fans have balls?

[clambake]

That wasn't about Avante, that was about clambake.

i think its time for you to start paying rent.

[Avante]

i think its time for you to start paying rent.

Talk football or shut the fuck up.

[Avante]

Anyone ever notice that Avante has people here just to talk to him. Weird.

[benefactor]

Anyone ever notice that Avante is here in order to get people to talk to him because he needs the attention? Weird.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

This is for all the marbles. Loser doesn't post next NFL season on the NFL forum. I've got the Falcons. 'Vante, you've got the Cheatriots. Deal??

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Avante... deal?

[benefactor]

He faked needing to leave for a week so he didn't have to commit and be called a welcher again tbh

[Clipper Nation]

He faked needing to leave for a week so he didn't have to commit and be called a welcher again tbhI like how he keeps telling everyone to go to this thread to see where he offered the deal. But then when others offer to take him up on it, he runs and hides. Reality is, this board is the only place where the old faggot gets attention, so he's never going to seriously wager away his time on here.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I like how he keeps telling everyone to go to this thread to see where he offered the deal. But then when others offer to take him up on it, he runs and hides. Reality is, this board is the only place where the old faggot gets attention, so he's never going to seriously wager away his time on here.

He needs to take my deal. Else, he doesn't really believe his Pats are going to win. I do believe my Falcons are going to win so I will bet sacrificing the entire 2017 NFL season on this board if he agrees.

[lebomb]

He needs to take my deal. Else, he doesn't really believe his Pats are going to win. I do believe my Falcons are going to win so I will bet sacrificing the entire 2017 NFL season on this board if he agrees.


I will take that bet. I will take the Patriots. If I lose, I will not post in NFL anything all of next season. Hell, I didnt post in here all of this season, so either way I cant lose. I will take you up on the bet though.

[SpursforSix]

I will take that bet. I will take the Patriots. If I lose, I will not post in NFL anything all of next season. Hell, I didnt post in here all of this season, so either way I cant lose. I will take you up on the bet though.

No one give a shit if you post or not. There's no upside. It's the equivalent of some random person saying they are going to the bathroom and aren't sure if the are going to poop or have diarrhea.

[chunticakes]

No one give a shit if you post or not. There's no upside. It's the equivalent of some random person saying they are going to the bathroom and aren't sure if the are going to poop or have diarrhea.

But we'll miss out on his insightful anilingus posts. I personally don't want to lose that.

[SpursforSix]

But we'll miss out on his insightful anilingus posts. I personally don't want to lose that.

I'll pick up the slack.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I will take that bet. I will take the Patriots. If I lose, I will not post in NFL anything all of next season. Hell, I didnt post in here all of this season, so either way I cant lose. I will take you up on the bet though.

Declined. For the very reason you mentioned. You rarely post. I'd only be willing to bet with someone who posts as regularly as me on here, like Clipper Nation (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=28500) or Avante.

It's like betting a poker hand $1m to $1k on the dealer button with pocket aces. Why the fuck would I do that?

[Avante]

He faked needing to leave for a week so he didn't have to commit and be called a welcher again tbh

Will your dumbass ever figure out I own land in the hills? So every once in awhile I need to take care of some business up there? This is why I would never take any time to show you anything, you have me faking everything I do. I MUST BE A FAT IDIOT, that is a MUST.

Ok stupid, read my response to the bet.

[Avante]

I like how he keeps telling everyone to go to this thread to see where he offered the deal. But then when others offer to take him up on it, he runs and hides. Reality is, this board is the only place where the old faggot gets attention, so he's never going to seriously wager away his time on here.

Do you EVER get anything right?

[Avante]

This is for all the marbles. Loser doesn't post next NFL season on the NFL forum. I've got the Falcons. 'Vante, you've got the Cheatriots. Deal??

How about the loser doesn't post on this forum starting right after the SB and can't post here until after the next SB,

Deal?

[Avante]

Ok lets see who has the balls here.

I have the Pats and will wager self bannishment from THIS forum the entire 2017 season starting the day after the SB. Can return after the next SB in 2018.

So far the only gorilla balls guys here is UNT and myself. Yep, we have to haul um around in a wheel barrell.


So who else? Only talking to those who actually post here.

Oh yeah, benefactor and Clipper Nation....WRONG....as usual.

Later today I'm off again, have some business to attend to, be gone a week, 10 days. Funny reading the idiots here....he's faking it. My God we have some dumb fucks here.

Will watch the SB at a friends house in Springville. I own property little people, sometimes things come up, ok?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

How about the loser doesn't post on this forum starting right after the SB and can't post here until after the next SB,

Deal?
That works.

Loser can still post on Club, Politics, Upstairs, Downstairs etc. just not NFL Forum. Until Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:59 p.m.

Deal.

[Avante]

That works.

Loser can still post on Club, Politics, Upstairs, Downstairs etc. just not NFL Forum. Until Sunday, February 4, 2018 at 11:59 p.m.

Deal.

Deal

Love to deal with others like myself not little cowards.

I will be here until midnight, only taking bets until then.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Deal

Love to deal with others like myself not little cowards.

Deal. No welching gramps

[Avante]

Deal. No welching gramps

Cool the gramps bullshit half pint, got it?

I took ya school over Pats vs Broncos, took ya to school Packers over Giants and will be taking ya school once again son. I'm on a whole other level little guy.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Cool the gramps bullshit half pint, got it?

I took ya school over Pats vs Broncos, took ya to school Packers over Giants and will be taking ya school once again son.

Nope. Patsies won't win a SB without Gronk

[Avante]

Nope. Patsies won't win a SB without Gronk

And ya also told me the Broncos would DEMOLISH the Pats, right? What were the Giants going to do to the Packers?

So far you have done nothing but strike out.

[Avante]

Let's see benefactor/Clipper Nation do something besides talk stupid shit.

How could anyone doubt I'd not be taking the bet? I do things, what do those two queers ever do, yep....nothing.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I've bet money on every SB since 2011/12 (Giants over Pats upset) and I've been dead accurate all except but 1 of them... so very damn close to being perfect, actually.

I was 1 yard and a run play to the best RB in the game at that point from being perfect, undefeated in my SB wagers.

[Avante]

I've bet money on every SB since 2011/12 (Giants over Pats upset) and I've been dead accurate all except but 1 of them... so very damn close to being perfect, actually.

I was 1 yard and a run play to the best RB in the game at that point from being perfect, undefeated in my SB wagers.

Anyone taking the Giants to beat the Packers in GB this season, hahahahahaha~~~

I'm 9-1 in these playoffs, soon to be 10-1.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Anyone taking the Giants to beat the Packers in GB this season, hahahahahaha~~~

I'm 9-1 in these playoffs, soon to be 10-1.
I had the Giants to beat the Packers in 2011 and you could argue that was a far larger upset.

[Avante]

I had the Giants to beat the Packers in 2011 and you could argue that was a far larger upset.

My point was we argued the 2016 edition, right? You lost that one and will lose this one.

[benefactor]

Let's see benefactor/Clipper Nation do something besides talk stupid shit.

How could anyone doubt I'd not be taking the bet? I do things, what do those two queers ever do, yep....nothing.
Keep my name out of your mouth, old faggot. I declared ownership of you years ago.

[chunticakes]

Why don't both of you losers just stop posting here?

Do us all a favor.

[Avante]

Keep my name out of your mouth, old faggot. I declared ownership of you years ago.

As you follow me from forum to forum, hahaha~~~~

Wrong about everything guy, and an idiot.

[Avante]

Why don't both of you losers just stop posting here?

Do us all a favor.

Do who a favor, some little know nothing like you?

[chunticakes]

Do who a favor, some little know nothing like you?

Wrong again old-timer, hahaha~~~

Wrong about everything. Isn't it past your bedtime? Why are you still up posting incoherences?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

:lmao

[UNT Eagles 2016]

There won't be a 2017 Avante football thread or anything else by Avante in 2017, tbh...

[benefactor]

:tu

[benefactor]

Welp

[UNT Eagles 2016]

I guess there will. Lucky break. Historically epic game.

[chunticakes]

Avante wins again. Too bad you're going to Welch UNT Eagles 2016.

[Avante]

I guess there will. Lucky break. Historically epic game.

See you in 2018, hopefully ya learned your lesson going against Avante, you were 0-3.....ROOKIE.

[Avante]

:tu

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?

[Avante]

:lmao

Typical...ROOKIE~~~~

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483) wins again. Too bad you're going to Welch UNT Eagles 2016 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49650).
not going to welch. Except for Cowboys game in the playoff only as I said. But that's a looooooong time from now and only an if.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

See you in 2018, hopefully ya learned your lesson going against Avante, you were 0-3.....ROOKIE.

That was some bizarre luck. 25 point deficit... late in the 3rd quarter? 19 points in the 4th quarter without the ball? 2 two point conversions? Bizarre...

[Avante]

That was some bizarre luck. 25 point deficit... late in the 3rd quarter? 19 points in the 4th quarter without the ball? 2 two point conversions? Bizarre...

Why are you still posting?

[UNT Eagles 2016]

Why are you still posting?

Because I keep getting quoted. Bye

[Killakobe81]

Never going against Donald Trump
Congrats to all real non Ban Waggoner Pats fans

[Avante]

Because I keep getting quoted. Bye

See ya "here" in 2018.

[Avante]

Rookies

Hopefully ya all learned something this season. That was....SLOW DOWN, GIVE THINGS SOME TIME. The Vikes were 5-0, what happened? The Pats were down 21, what happened?

It goes like this....

As of right now....(see that?) AS OF RIGHT NOW...ok?

AS OF RIGHT NOW...the Vikes are looking pretty good, see if they can keep it up.

AS OF RIGHT NOW...the Pats look to be in trouble, but, ya never count out any team with Belichick and Brady.

Cool acting like a bunch of deranged monkies, over things, ok? It makes ya look....ROOKIE.

[benefactor]

Don't you ever get tired of being wrong?
Congrats on your win. I never mind eating crow. Say...don't you think it's time you headed down the cover thread and do the same?

[lebomb]

No one give a shit if you post or not. There's no upside. It's the equivalent of some random person saying they are going to the bathroom and aren't sure if the are going to poop or have diarrhea.


LOL............all you Falcon cock riding faggots. Told ya Pats would find a way to win. And there is an upside. I shut you bitches down. Now get the fuck outta my forum!!!!


:claw

[lebomb]

See you in 2018, hopefully ya learned your lesson going against Avante, you were 0-3.....ROOKIE.


LMAO....... I bet a guy on the game, of course he was riding the Falcons ass. He facetimed me when the Falcons went up 28-3 talkin massive shit. My phone was silent as all hell when the score hit 28-28. That fucker went into hiding. Im gonna find his ass and get my money.

NEVER, and I mean NEVEEEEEEEEEER count out Brady and the Patriots.

[johnsmith]

It's adorable watching avante demand someone stick to a bet on hear when he's welched dozens of times over the years.