***** The Official 2015 Avante Football Thread ***** [Archive] - Page 5

Avante

09-13-2016, 12:40 AM

Just think, Big Ben is better than HOFer Terry Bradshaw. Antonio Brown and Hines Ward are better than HOFers Lynn Swann and John Stallworth.

Really tired of this stupid National Anthem bullshit, just play football. What you feel about non football situations doesn't belong out on the field. That is your place of work.

No the Niners aren't that good and the Rams that bad.

Yes the Pats are that good and the Browns that bad.

As I predicted, RGIII would be a total non factor in 2016. He is done.

Avante

09-13-2016, 01:41 AM

This just ain't right.

The Panthers at home with all that rest vs my Niner team coming off a MNF on the road. That just isn't fair.

pgardn

09-13-2016, 06:52 AM

Stupid, I was over some 45 years ago, ok dummy? And being a big guy I was attracted to full grown women, got it?

"Being a big guy like Jared, I am attracted to..."

Sheeesh~~~~ Ok? Got it~~~~~Sheeeesh

So because it was over 45 years ago, and the little guy thinks he's a big guy, it's all a twisted rationalization. Ok dummy?

Avante

09-13-2016, 11:27 AM

It is time to dump Romo.

It is time to put RGIII out of the pro football.

It is time that somebody sat La'Veon Bell down and slapped the shit out of the idiot.

It is time Kaepernick cooled his bullshit.

It is time Big Ben got talked about with Peyton, Montana, Brady, Rodgers, Brees.

It is the Browns dropped out of the NFL and joined the CFL, or the SEC.

It is time to start talking the black QB in the NCAA and how that will change the QB position at the NFL level.

It is time to give Cam Newton his props for being able to take hits that would leave other QB's laid out on the field.

johnsmith

09-14-2016, 12:45 AM

Stupid, I was over some 45 years ago, ok dummy? And being a big guy I was attracted to full grown women, got it?

I don't think there's a time limit on the awfulness of child molestation and rape. You ruined a life....that makes two lives you've ruined.

Clipper Nation

09-14-2016, 08:37 AM

Avante

09-14-2016, 11:07 AM

I don't think there's a time limit on the awfulness of child molestation and rape. You ruined a life....that makes two lives you've ruined.

I totally agree about child molestation and rape. Any man guilty of that ya shoot, after ya cut his dick off. I was into full grown women as I've mentioned numerous times. You can't read?

Avante

09-14-2016, 11:09 AM

It is time for you to shut the fuck up, old faggot.

What is a day for you like ya miserable fuck? Do people poke fun at ya because ya never smile?

How many of you reading this have ever encountered anyone as misearable as this little queer CN?

clambake

09-14-2016, 11:32 AM

like baseline said......really hurts coming from a child molester.

Avante

09-14-2016, 11:41 AM

like baseline said......really hurts coming from a child molester.

Not into little kids, you really haven't figured that out by now? Why do you continue to just lie?

Do you even know how this silliness even started?

Avante

09-14-2016, 11:48 AM

Went 12-4 SU in week 1, my goal in 2016 is 10 wins a week (bye weeks) which isn't easy. Will make my plays right here, yep, just for fun.

clambake

09-14-2016, 11:53 AM

what do you mean "silliness"

Avante

09-14-2016, 12:00 PM

what do you mean "silliness"

Answer my question, do you even know how all this pedo stuff started?

clambake

09-14-2016, 12:03 PM

Answer my question, do you even know how all this pedo stuff started?

well.....you didn't actually say when it started.

Avante

09-14-2016, 01:04 PM

well.....you didn't actually say when it started.

Where did you ever get this idea I was some sick ass pedo? I have made it very clear I see those sick fucks as the lowest forms of humanity yet you ignore that, why?

Dude, why ignore my stance on that sick shit, well?

clambake

09-14-2016, 01:20 PM

I don't think there's a time limit on the awfulness of child molestation and rape. You ruined a life....that makes two lives you've ruined.

Avante

09-14-2016, 02:11 PM

This is funny.

Avante....why weren't we told about that sick shit over there? Once I found out about that sex slavery thing it pissed me off.

Dummies....you pedo you.

Only here in Stupidville could that happen.

clambake

09-14-2016, 02:16 PM

:cry they didn't tell us!:cry

Avante

09-14-2016, 02:20 PM

:cry they didn't tell us!:cry

Before I dump ya.

Now think ya dumb fuck, what is a pedo? Yep, he is a guy who goes looking for kids, right? Now think stupid, is just maybe one of those ya thought was over 18 wasn't, the same thing?

Let me guess you're too stupid to get that.

See ya in a month.

clambake

09-14-2016, 02:26 PM

:cry they didn't tell us!:cry

Avante

09-14-2016, 02:40 PM

I know all of you are thinking the same thing I am. What is wrong with this clambake guy, is he really this fucked up?

clambake

09-14-2016, 03:34 PM

Ok...

Let's get off..AVANTE AVANTE AVANTE and AVANTE....and talk football, ok?

Here's how it's going to go.

The Panthers will overwelm the Broncos and Peyton. The outcome will never be in a doubt, a total and complete beat down. I wouldn't be surprised to see Osweiler come in to protect Peyton.

The Panthers will get three turnovers, control the line of scrimmage and make it look easy.

How about...32-13?:lol

Avante

09-14-2016, 06:45 PM

Hard to win back to back road games in the NFL.

In week two the Bengals, Packers, Buc's will give it a try.

Bengals in Pitt, not good.

Packers at Vikes with a back up QB, ok.

Then there's that Cards team who lost last week at home, they have never lost back to back at home in the Arians era.

Silver&Black

09-15-2016, 04:14 AM

You want a new thread for the season?

Avante

09-15-2016, 11:01 AM

You want a new thread for the season?

My man, that would be great and thank you sir.

Avante

09-15-2016, 03:03 PM

I;m changing my mind about the Bills tonight, I wasn't aware of just how many of them were banged up.

I will back the Jets SU....SU means straight up/not NOT ATS..ok?

Avante

09-17-2016, 12:34 AM

chunticakes

09-18-2016, 04:22 AM

Ok, 12-4 in week one.

Won with the Jets in week two.

SU winners

Panthers
Ravens
Lions
Chiefs
Pats
Giants
Steelers
Redskins
Cards
Seahawks
Broncos
Raiders
Chargers
Packers
Eagles

My goal is always 11-5

You will hear/read how easy picking SU up, ok then who wants to take me on? Trust me trying to hit 11-5 (yes i know) week in and week out is not easy at all.

You're doing SU this year or what?

I raise you...

SU:
Panthers
Ravens
Lions
Texans
Pats
Giants
Steelers
Cowboys
Cards
Seahawks
Broncos
Raiders
Jaguars
Packers
Bears

ATS I'm taking:
Carolina -13.5
Cleveland +6.5
Seattle -3.5
Denver -5.5
Green Bay -2.5

YTD: 2-3 :ihit

chunticakes

09-18-2016, 10:56 PM

Avante

09-19-2016, 09:55 PM

Not bad, you went 8-14 SU.

I went 9-14.

3-2 ATS.

5-5 YTD. :depressed

Actually I went 10 -6 which gives me

22-10 so far or my 11-5.

You went 9-6. No Jets play.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-19-2016, 10:19 PM

22-10 straight-up, I don't do spreads

Avante

09-19-2016, 10:22 PM

22-10 straight-up, I don't do spreads

I usually play spreads but my man is out of business so until I find somewhere locally to take my action I;m messing around with this SU for fun....here.

I always play vs the ESPN/CBS guys, usually beat them over a season. will average 10-6/11-5. I play "spots" big into scheduling dynamics.

Avante

09-19-2016, 10:36 PM

Week three unofficial (might change a couple by Sunday)

Pats
Cards
Panthers
Bengals
Packers
Jax
Dolphins
Giants
Seahawks
Titans
Buc's
Colts/Chargers....hmmmmmm?
Chiefs
Steelers
Cowboys
Saints/Falcons...hmmmmm?

Avante

09-19-2016, 11:26 PM

I saw Tyreek Hill (a legit World class sprinter) run back a KO 105 yards vs the Texans. When he went over to the sidlines nobody said shit to him, he goes over and sits on the bench all alone, hmmmmm? He was kicked off the Oklahoma St team for beating up on his girlfriend, so he ended up at Western Alabama.

Strange deal.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-20-2016, 01:29 PM

Week three unofficial (might change a couple by Sunday)

Pats -So tough to call given circumstances
Cards -Yes, should be easy road win
Panthers -Yes, but could be closer than people think
Bengals -Tough one to call
Packers -Yes should be easy
Jax -I know they're at "home" but why does everyone keep picking this garbage team? In all fairness, it's the franchise, ownership, and coaches more than the players. Also, Flacco >>> Bortles
Dolphins -Only because they're playing the worst franchise in sports
Giants -Yes
Seahawks -Yes, easily
Titans -Think the Raiders are more talented here and just overall better, Tennessee isn't a good home or road team really
Buc's -Yes
Colts/Chargers....hmmmmmm? -Gotta go with Indy and Luck here at home vs lousy opponent
Chiefs -Yes but could be close
Steelers -I might go for PHI as surprise pick of the week, though my original pick was definitely PIT.. still not decided
Cowboys -Yes, should be easy
Saints/Falcons...hmmmmm? -Falcons have a horrible track record at the Superdome, will be interesting

Avante

09-20-2016, 06:26 PM

Good stuff, will give my reasons for my picks when I make my official/final picks.

SpursforSix

09-20-2016, 07:52 PM

You want a new thread for the season?

My man, that would be great and thank you sir.

S&B must have forgot. I'll take care of it.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-22-2016, 01:54 PM

none of that retarded slander/libel shit about avante being a pedo.

Avante

09-22-2016, 02:56 PM

none of that retarded slander/libel shit about avante being a pedo.

Too many little jerks/punks here my friend. I talked about my disgust with that situation over there, one of the punks....you pedo...????

Avante

09-22-2016, 11:32 PM

I have talked about playing "spots". Tonight was a perfect example.

Houston Texans on the road on a short week coming off a huge emotional win vs the team that ruined their season in 2015, vs Bill Belichick at home again.

Pats in the second game of a two week home stand....13-2 the last decade. Texans 3-0 the last decade 1-9. That gave the Pats a 22-3 trend.

We might not see and easier pick.

Avante

09-23-2016, 12:37 AM

Getting back to "spots".

Houston will have nine days to lick their wounds before facing the Titans at home Oct 2nd. A good team at home after a road loss.....classic~~~

The Titans haven't won but 13 road games in the last five seasons. And at Houston....1-4.

Since the last time they played in 2015, Houston has gone 9-4, Titans 3-8.

Everything says Texans in this "spot"

Avante

09-23-2016, 01:12 AM

Handicapping SU.

Take the difference in points scored vs given up.

Niners...scored 65, gave up 55. So they are + 10.
Seahawks 75/25. So they are + 50.

Or Niners plus 1 vs Seahawks plus 5 (only go with the first number.

Now look at home/road wins the last 20 games.

Niners at home....6-8
Seahawks on the road....9-3

So, it's Seahawks plus 3 (9 over 6)

Now we have this, Seahawks 8, Niners 1. It's very rare to see a team with a 7 point advantage lose the game.

Sure, there will always be a few games where none of those stats.trends will matter thanks to turnovers, injuries and lack of motivation. That;s why ya shoot for 11 wins a week, byes or not.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-23-2016, 10:18 AM

Millennial Messiah - 23–10
Avante - 23–10

With at least 3-4 differences in week 3 picks

Avante

09-24-2016, 05:17 PM

Millennial Messiah - 23–10
Avante - 23–10

With at least 3-4 differences in week 3 picks

Ok winners for week 3

Pats...won****
Cards
Raiders
Dolphins
Ravens
Packers
Bengals
Panthers
Giants
Buc;s
Seahawks
Chiefs
Colts
Steelers
Cowboys
Saints

My goal is always 11 wins, which gets harder with the bye weeks.

While here....

Just thnk both Antonio Brown and Hines Ward are better than HOFers John Stallworth and Lynn Swann (who has no business there, if Cliff Branch isn't there)

When will RGII figure it out?

I cannot believe this is legal....

GB at home vs Lions
bye week
at home vs Giants
at home vs Cowboys
at home vs Bears

First time I saw that I thought this magazine had it wrong, nope~ Then there's the Rams who play 5 road games in their first 7. What's with this? Pats playing 4 home games in first 6 weeks....huh?

Russell Wilson, Cam Newton, Matt Ryan, Philip Rivers, Matt Stafford, Big Ben, Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers?, Drew Brees and Tom Brady are the best QBs their franchises have ever had in their history.

Look at the impact Jordy Nelson and Julian Edelman make. And we all know about Stanford's Christian McCaffrey and Oregons Olympic hurdler/WR Devon Allen, time to add some more white lightning.

Turn the volume off, sheesh~~~~

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnTrv-Jb1WM

He is the all time NCAA leader in punt return TD's with 6, with ties him with...hmm? One more and the record is his.

The fastest whte player ever in pro football was the Miami Dolphins John Roderick a legit "world class" sprinter out of SMU in the 60's. He was a RB there but played WR in the pros, he ran a 9.3 when the WR was 9.1. He did have a very forgettable short career.

Deserve mention

Don Hutson
Don Beebe
Tim Dwight
Travis Jervey
Lance Alworth
Jerry Tarr&&&&&
Billy Cannon
Bill Groman

**** now before one of you little dummies..."picking after a game has been played???"......come on. haha~~~ Somewhere out there I picked the game before Thursday.

&&&&&....if ya ever see the trivia question..."what white pro footballer was involved in a sprint WR".....it was Jerry Tarr. He was the worlds greatest 110hurdler, he also lead off a WR 4x1 relay while at Oregon, also on that team were NFLers to be Mel Renfro and Mike Gaecther. The great Canadian sprinter Harry Jerome anchored.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-24-2016, 08:29 PM

Ok winners for week 3

I cannot believe this is legal....

GB at home vs Lions
bye week
at home vs Giants
at home vs Cowboys
at home vs Bears

First time I saw that I thought this magazine had it wrong, nope~ Then there's the Rams who play 5 road games in their first 7. What's with this? Pats playing 4 home games in first 6 weeks....huh?

That's 5+ weeks in a row of coming home to your bed every single night and getting your dick sucked by Olivia Munn. Must be nice to be Aaron Rodgers.

But seriously, a FOUR game home stand? Forget the bye... I don't know if a 4 game home stand has ever existed :lol Goodell knows the NFL's pet favorite team is struggling a bit and needs help to get back on track... He's not stupid.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-24-2016, 08:33 PM

I have ATL over NO and PHI over PIT but looks like we're the same otherwise

Avante

09-24-2016, 11:03 PM

That's 5+ weeks in a row of coming home to your bed every single night and getting your dick sucked by Olivia Munn. Must be nice to be Aaron Rodgers.

But seriously, a FOUR game home stand? Forget the bye... I don't know if a 4 game home stand has ever existed :lol Goodell knows the NFL's pet favorite team is struggling a bit and needs help to get back on track... He's not stupid.

Well the Packers do get a three game road trek later on.

Last week we saw the Panthers at home after a Thursday night game, the Niners on the road after a Monay night game flying back east. That just ain't right.

No team should ever start off on the road the first two games of a new season or at home two weeks in a row.

Avante

09-24-2016, 11:21 PM

I have ATL over NO and PHI over PIT but looks like we're the same otherwise

NO is 10-2 SU last 12 on MNF. Under Sean Peyton 4-2 vs Falcons. That is a 14-4 trend in this "spot". I like that. Now add the fact the Falcons are on the road again, that is never a good spot.

Last season the Falcons were rolling at 5=0, the first game they lost, yep, in NO.

Big Ben vs a rookie QB, I'll take that. And will the Eagles be thinking about that week off? That is a very real factor as is coming off a bye. Now add the Eagles are 0-10 off back to back wins vs non division opposition.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-25-2016, 12:42 AM

Well the Packers do get a three game road trek later on.

Last week we saw the Panthers at home after a Thursday night game, the Niners on the road after a Monay night game flying back east. That just ain't right.

No team should ever start off on the road the first two games of a new season or at home two weeks in a row.

Ideally not, but it's impractical to guarantee every single team one home and one away game in the first 2 weeks of the season... I do think that no team should get a 3 game home or road stand.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-25-2016, 12:47 AM

NO is 10-2 SU last 12 on MNF. Under Sean Peyton 4-2 vs Falcons. That is a 14-4 trend in this "spot". I like that. Now add the fact the Falcons are on the road again, that is never a good spot.

Last season the Falcons were rolling at 5=0, the first game they lost, yep, in NO.

Big Ben vs a rookie QB, I'll take that. And will the Eagles be thinking about that week off? That is a very real factor as is coming off a bye. Now add the Eagles are 0-10 off back to back wins vs non division opposition.
True about the ATL/NO stuff, but I just think NO sucks hard this year, in general, most especially on defense. The albatross Brees contract has put the clamps on their ability to acquire and retain talent and it's really hurt them; they've become basically the Colts of the NFC, a team with a top 10 QB but a lousy dearth of football talent around him.

Also, the Falcons are improved under their good young coach, Dan Quinn. I may be wrong, but I like the Falcons here.

As for the Eagles, they won't want to be going into the bye on a sour note, and for now their defense is even better than their offense while Pitt has a great offense but iffy at best defense... should be an interesting battle.

Avante

09-25-2016, 01:08 AM

True about the ATL/NO stuff, but I just think NO sucks hard this year, in general, most especially on defense. The albatross Brees contract has put the clamps on their ability to acquire and retain talent and it's really hurt them; they've become basically the Colts of the NFC, a team with a top 10 QB but a lousy dearth of football talent around him.

Also, the Falcons are improved under their good young coach, Dan Quinn. I may be wrong, but I like the Falcons here.

As for the Eagles, they won't want to be going into the bye on a sour note, and for now their defense is even better than their offense while Pitt has a great offense but iffy at best defense... should be an interesting battle.

Don't think the Eagles aren't making plans for a week off, yes it is a known distraction.

New Orleans 24-18 at home in Sept, Falcons 21-27 on the road. All the numbers point to the Saints in this "spot". And they are more desperate being 0-2 and have never had two seasons back to back 0-3 in the last decade.

Saints at home on MNF (10-2) needing a win in the worst way vs a team on the road again, Saints the pick.

Avante

09-25-2016, 03:08 AM

The early (key words) success of Carson Wentz got me thinking of the best NFL QB;s out of non Power Five/ND confrences (will go with current)

Kurt Warner
Tony Romo
Joe Flacco
Big Ben
Phil Simms
Ken Anderson
Roger Staubach
Steve Young
Steve McNair
Ryan Fitzpatrick
Daryl Lamonica
Terry Bradshaw

Avante

09-26-2016, 05:52 PM

If ya saw the Cowboys vs Bears game ya also saw a video of Ezekial Elliott winning Missouri State in the 110hh.

He was a 10.9 100m guy(Reggie Bush ran a 10.4) and a 13.7 (lower hurdle that NCAA) hurdler which is...decent.

Actually.

100 Meters

2011 Outdoor

10

11.10a (http://www.spurstalk.com/result/6vi36w8HaiwdkOuN)

2012 Outdoor

11

11.03a (http://www.spurstalk.com/result/yEiONMBINiDxz8fm)

2013 Outdoor

12

10.95a (http://www.spurstalk.com/result/x8iOwxoteiRljdUN)

200 Meters

2013 Outdoor

12

22.05a (http://www.spurstalk.com/result/2KiZ8MNSrFx2EnTr)

110m Hurdles - 39"

2010 Outdoor

9

14.68a (http://www.spurstalk.com/result/nliAq60UZHVrXNc1)

2011 Outdoor

10

14.13a (http://www.spurstalk.com/result/j0ijVKeI3HrqzJh4)

2012 Outdoor

11

14.13a (http://www.spurstalk.com/result/o3irJnMSOHdDxgUe)

2013 Outdoor

12

13.77a (http://www.spurstalk.com/result/yEiPE83f5HDxz8fN)

There have been a few RB's who were also 110 hurdlers in HS.

Hugh "The King" McElhenny
Tyrone Wheatley
James Owens...became a world class hurdler at UCLA, 13.4
Roger Craig
Paul Lowe
Todd Gurley
Jamaal Charles
Milt Campbell was an Olympic decathon gold medalist, his best event was the 110hh where he was world class at 13.4 in the 50's.
Charles White was a Cali State champ in the 300m hurdles.(HS event only)
Paul Robinson the first 1000 yard rusher for the Bengals was a 400m hurdler while at Arizona.

While you have heard how RGIII was a world class hurdler, that is bogus, what he really was was a good NCAA 400m hurdler, nothing more. I do think it's save to say he is the fastest athlete to ever play QB in the NFL. Yes, he would smoke Vick in a 100m.

Avante

09-26-2016, 06:19 PM

It's about an hour from MNF and I just heard the Saints will be without 5 defensive starters and their leading receiver, so I gotta change my pick to the Falcons. I do hate to ignore that 10-2 trend but with half your defense hurt, sheesh~~~~

I'll probably regret it, yep, sometimes knowing too much is not good.

Avante

09-26-2016, 11:17 PM

As of right now, the pecking order.

Falcons
Panthers...Cam too caught up in celebrity?
Buc's
Saints

Eagles...surprise so far.
Giants
Cowboys
Redskins

Vikes
Packers
Lions
Bears

Seahawks
Cards....Carson Palmer/defense fading?
Rams
Niners

Pats....Belichick~~~~~~~~
Jets
Bills
Dolphins

Broncos....better than 2015?
Chiefs
Raiders
Chargers

Texans...weak ass division.
Colts
Titans
Jags

Ravens...Steelers actually belong here.
Steelers
Bengals
Browns....Johnny Manziel, RGIII....but can't use Carson Wentz, hahahaha~~~~~~~~

Looking at points scored vs given up, the best...Eagles at plus 7, the worst...Bears minus 4

Avante

09-27-2016, 11:07 AM

Kaepernick about to take over as the starter?

Doesn't Kelly know running a speeded up offense unless ya can sustain drives brings your D right back out there? This is another reason ya want a stud running game, ya give your D a blow.

Avante

09-27-2016, 01:34 PM

Ok, another 10-6 week, giving me 32-16 SU. and it looks like next week I'll start giving out $$$$$ winning ATS plays, I found a local to take my action.

A few "spots" I;m considering.

Ravens are 6-0 ATS last six vs Raiders, 9-3 last 12. They are at home vs a Raider team doing some serious traveling. The Raiders in back to back road games, not good. And they barely beat a weak ass Titans team, the Ravens a far better team.

The Texans coming off a loss vs a team they are 5-1 ATS last 6, at home. The Titans suck as a RD.

The Lions coming off a loss vs a bad Bears team, a team they are 6-2 ATS last 8 against.

While no ATS trends here, the Skins feeling good about themselves vs a bad Browns team....hmmm?

Just a few "spots" that got my attention early in the week. It is all about searching out the best 3/5 "spots" from an ATS perspective that week, yep, homework.

Speaking of homework, the Raiders as a RD the last three seasons....14-8, the Ravens as a HF...8-10-1. So forget that one.

Avante

09-28-2016, 11:09 AM

The commercial jinx?

RGIII always hurt, pretty much done.
Peyton Manning was laughed at his last season. Dumped by Colts.
Aaron Rodgers is always being.....what's wrong?
Colin Kaepernick....a joke.
Andrew Luck...INT INT INT FUMBLE
Drew Brees...0-3
JJ Watt...out for the season
Cam Newton....1-2 and a cry baby over a SB loss
Russell Wilson....ankle??? knee???
O.J.Simpson....in prison

Todd Gurley???
Antonio Brown???

SpursforSix

09-28-2016, 11:19 AM

Avante

09-28-2016, 11:31 AM

yep...Arnold Palmer, Tiger Woods, the pitcher in Florida. All have made commercials.

Add

Tony Romo...sitting on the bench hurt.
Gronk...hurt, missing games.

SpursforSix

09-28-2016, 11:37 AM

Add

Tony Romo...sitting on the bench hurt.
Gronk...hurt, missing games.

Keenan Allen, Donte Moncrief

Avante

09-28-2016, 12:15 PM

Tim Tebow hits a HR at his very first time at the plate in a game.

That's right there with the very first play in SD Charger history RB Paul Lowe goes 105 yards with a KO return to score.

SpursforSix

09-28-2016, 01:00 PM

Tim Tebow hits a HR at his very first time at the plate in a game.

That's right there with the very first play in SD Charger history RB Paul Lowe goes 105 yards with a KO return to score.

And right up there with North Southern State running the old Hurley Gurley on Kentucky U of M.

Avante

09-28-2016, 01:30 PM

And right up there with North Southern State running the old Hurley Gurley on Kentucky U of M.

When I was in HS the big star at my school was Jody Graves, he was 6-4 270 pounds, an offensive and defensive tackle, he destroyed guys and never left the field. He was a great guy, class president, he was also the wrestling champ.

In our last game of the season vs our rival Redwood we have a good lead and the game in the bag. Jody had always wanted to play RB, but we had good backs and he was needed on those lines. So with less than a minute to go, there is Jody at RB. He takes the handoff, hits the hole, runs over a backer, then a safety and is gone, yep, he out runs those speedy cornerbacks. 68 yards TD.

A 6-4 270 pound RB.

He'd end up at Stanford.

SpursforSix

09-28-2016, 01:37 PM

When I was in HS the big star at my school was Jody Graves, he was 6-4 270 pounds, an offensive and defensive tackle, he destroyed guys and never left the field. He was a great guy, class president, he was also the wrestling champ.

In our last game of the season vs our rival Redwood we have a good lead and the game in the bag. Jody had always wanted to play RB, but we had good backs and he was needed on those lines. So with less than a minute to go, there is Jody at RB. He takes the handoff, hits the hole, runs over a backer, then a safety and is gone, yep, he out runs those speedy cornerbacks. 68 yards TD.

A 6-4 270 pound RB.

He'd end up at Stanford.

Good athletes can generally play multiple positions in multiple sports. I was also a baseballer. Yep...pitcher. Didn't have the "classic" windup and delivery. Just stood up there and threw. Wasn't bad in the outfield either but this one time, I was chasing after a fly ball deep in right field. I lost sight of the ball and it bounced off my head and yep...over the wall. Home run.

After the inning was over and I was coming back to the dug out, I could tell the guys were wanting to have a laugh at the play. I gave them that look that said, "grrrrrrr...It's not funny right now...let's win the game and then maybe we can laugh about it later".

Avante

09-28-2016, 01:44 PM

Good athletes can generally play multiple positions in multiple sports. I was also a baseballer. Yep...pitcher. Didn't have the "classic" windup and delivery. Just stood up there and threw. Wasn't bad in the outfield either but this one time, I was chasing after a fly ball deep in right field. I lost sight of the ball and it bounced off my head and yep...over the wall. Home run.

After the inning was over and I was coming back to the dug out, I could tell the guys were wanting to have a laugh at the play. I gave them that look that said, "grrrrrrr...It's not funny right now...let's win the game and then maybe we can laugh about it later".

Bounced off your head, hahaha~~~~~~ And I can relate....

We are in Hanford, I'm back to return a punt. I lose the ball in the lights, yep. bounced right off my helmet, bounced high in the air and one of those down to crush me catchs it and...TOUCHDOWN. I was saved by a holding penalty.

A couple of my cousins live in Hanford and were there to see the game. So everytime I'd see them for a long time they'd do a little....thump off my head...routine, ha~~~

SpursforSix

09-28-2016, 01:47 PM

Bounced off your head, hahaha~~~~~~ And I can relate....

We are in Hanford, I'm back to return a punt. I lose the ball in the lights, yep. bounced right off my helmet, bounced high in the air and one of those down to crush me catchs it and...TOUCHDOWN. I was saved by a holding penalty.

A couple of my cousins live in Hanford and were there to see the game. So everytime I'd see them for a long time they'd do a little....thump off my head...routine, ha~~~

I always wondered why a player receiving a punt doesn't do the following:

Sees the punt and takes several steps back from where it's going to land. Then puts up his hand (fair catch) and act like he's going to catch the ball. But then at the last second, runs forward to where the ball is really going to land and look to make contact with the coverage team.

Clipper Nation

09-28-2016, 01:53 PM

Fake fair catches have been done before in both the NFL and college, a bunch of times actually.

Avante

09-28-2016, 01:59 PM

I always wondered why a player receiving a punt doesn't do the following:

Sees the punt and takes several steps back from where it's going to land. Then puts up his hand (fair catch) and act like he's going to catch the ball. But then at the last second, runs forward to where the ball is really going to land and look to make contact with the coverage team.

How do you think the coach would see that?

I never thought about it back then, the thought 10 guys were coming down to clobber me was a non factor. I see it now watching football. I liked punt returns better than kickoffs, there ya have to do some plotting, where returning punts is all instincts.

SpursforSix

09-28-2016, 02:01 PM

How do you think the coach would see that?

I never thought about it back then, the thought 10 guys were coming down to clobber me was a non factor. I see it now watching football. I liked punt returns better than kickoffs, there ya have to do some plotting, where returning punts is all instincts.

If the coverage is good enough to merit a fair catch, why not get the extra 15 yards.

UNT Eagles 2016

09-28-2016, 02:25 PM

Avante

09-28-2016, 02:27 PM

If the coverage is good enough to merit a fair catch, why not get the extra 15 yards.

All ya want to do in punt returns is maintain possesion and if ya can gain a few yards, cool. It's not a play ya want to try and get cute with.

Avante

09-28-2016, 02:28 PM

Krapernick? :lol

I don't like him either. I did once upon a time.

Avante

09-28-2016, 09:21 PM

Bengals at home coming off a loss, gotta like their chances here, talking SU. No reason to see Miami a weak road team to hang in this "spot".

Bengals haven't lost back to back home games since 2012.
Dolphins have won but six road games since 2014.

Avante

09-30-2016, 08:53 AM

Week 4 ya start seeing something closer to how things really are in 2016, then by week 6/7 we pretty much have it.

Wentz/Presott the real deal?

Vikes/Eagles defense~~~

Broncos better than 2015?

Panthers fading a bit?

Seahawks offense?

Not that we haven't seen 1-3 teams end up better off than 3-1 teams numerous times.

Avante

10-02-2016, 01:42 AM

32-16

wk 4 winners

Bengals....won
Jags
Cards
Panthers
Ravens
Pats
Lions
Redskins
Niners
Broncos
Texans
Steelers
Chargers
Jets
Vikes

I thought I had a local to take my ATS action, no answer on the number I was given.

Avante

10-11-2016, 02:14 PM

So Kaepernick will get the start Sunday ...AT...Buffalo.

Are you kidding me? Chip Kelly is a 100% idiot. You do not switch QB's flying from the west coast to the east. Talk about stupid, there it is.

The Niners are done for 2016, and if Kelly can't see that why am I not surprised? If he wants to make a change, he does it next week at home...then a bye...then at home. Ya don't do it now.

Time to dump Kelly, the guy is a moron.

And, if I'm a head coach and one of my players isn't joining his teammates on the sidelines during the National Anthem he's not playing on my team and I will give him that option.

Coach Avante...you either stand or hit the showers, got it? And, if ya don't join your teammates you won't be here next week.

If anyone needs to protest anything, protest why black men bail on their kids.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-11-2016, 02:30 PM

Avante

10-11-2016, 02:37 PM

How did you do this week Avante? I went 10-4 and won both my safety (Pats) and surprise (Skins) picks. Lost picks with the Rams, Bengals, Eagles, and of course Panthers.

50-28 overall
5-0 safety
3-2 surprise

You asked.

I had to take a friend to Clovis and the airport, it was a last mintue thing. I was going to post my picks that morning, well I didn't get the chance.

So we can do one of these three things.

I just stop picking.
you give me the 11 I had for week 5
we start over now that we have a better read.

I have gone

12
10
10
7
11

Giving me...50 wins.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-11-2016, 02:43 PM

You asked.

I had to take a friend to Clovis and the airport, it was a last mintue thing. I was going to post my picks that morning, well I didn't get the chance.

So we can do one of these three things.

I just stop picking.
you give me the 11 I had for week 5
we start over now that we have a better read.

I have gone

12
10
10
7
11

Giving me...50 wins.

8
14
12
6
10

Tie.. dang

which one did you get right that I didn't?

Avante

10-11-2016, 03:10 PM

8
14
12
6
10

Tie.. dang

which one did you get right that I didn't?

I had the Cowboys winning at home over the Bengals.

So we go from here tied?

UNT Eagles 2016

10-11-2016, 03:27 PM

I had the Cowboys winning at home over the Bengals.

So we go from here tied?

yes, 50-27 apiece... not 50-28 because there were only 15 games last week and 14 this week, my bad

Avante

10-11-2016, 03:34 PM

yes, 50-27 apiece... not 50-28 because there were only 15 games last week and 14 this week, my bad

How about this rule, if for some reason either of us can't make our plays, we get an auto...8..wins? Deal?

Avante

10-11-2016, 04:07 PM

Here it is heading into week six, this is the time we should start seeing something we can latch onto. Now teams are looking for where they stand in that division race and what needs to be done. While you will never hear these guys admit it, they do pick and choose games they must have and others where a loss won't hurt so...hmmmm? This is not the NCAA, the pros don;t have to win every game.

The Falcons have a huge lead already in thier division, so a let down/week off/loss wouldn't hurt and they know this. While the Seahawks have the Rams right on their tail and the tie breaker, they can't afford a loss.

People are forgetting that the Falcons were 6-1 last season, then lost their next 6.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-11-2016, 09:36 PM

How about this rule, if for some reason either of us can't make our plays, we get an auto...8..wins? Deal?

no... you get .500 rounded up if the number of games is odd.

14 game week = 7-7
15 game week = 8-7
16 game week = 8-8
11 game week = 6-5

etc.

Avante

10-11-2016, 10:42 PM

no... you get .500 rounded up if the number of games is odd.

14 game week = 7-7
15 game week = 8-7
16 game week = 8-8
11 game week = 6-5

etc.

That will work.

Avante

10-11-2016, 10:59 PM

In the Mike McCoy era the Chargers are 1-5 vs the Broncos SU.

In the Gary Kubiak era the Broncos have never lost to the Chargers, 4-0.

So we have a strong 9-1 trend favoring the Broncos in this "spot".

As far as ATS goes, the Broncos are 7-1 on TNF, and are 5-0 last 5 in SD ATS. That is a strong 12-1 trend in this "spot".

I have the Broncos SU.

Avante

10-11-2016, 11:55 PM

Would ya believe?

An all black Tennessee HS went undefeated and unscored on for a season, AND.....no opponet crossed the 50 yard line on them?

The great Gale Sayers, The Kansas Coment, was the second fastest member of his family?

From 1901 to 1905, Michigan went 55-1, losing the last game of 1905 2-0 to Chicago. In that peroid of time the Wolverines scored over 2000 points and gave up 42. They scored over 100 points in a game 4 times and had 49 shutouts.

Keith Lincoln a SD Charger fullback scored...

rushing
passing
receiving
kickoff return
punt return
field goal
X-point

Big Ben Stevenson played seven seasons of college football while at Tuskegge Institude.

The first black QB to play in an NFL game was named......Willie Thrower

This NFL player, played for the Cardinals as a grade school kid, his middle school....The Cardinals, his HS...The Cardinals...his college...The Cardinals, and he played for the old St. Louis Cardinals in the NFL.

This stud NCAA RB tandum both won the Heisman.

The first Raider to have a 1000 yard season was a cornerback in college and dumped by the Niners.

This RB made such a huge impact on his team that he is in their ring of honor, he only played two seasons.

An NCAA world record 4x1 team with three pro footballers to be on that team.

Oregon has twice had the best 110hurdler in the nation playing wide receiver on the football team.

Herschel Walker once beat Bo Jackson in the heats of an indoor SEC 60m dash.

While at Texas A&I, Darrell Green ran a 10.08 100, that was the third fastest time n the world that season.

KC Chiefs current kick returner Tyreek Hill ran a 20.14 200m while in HS, the HS record....20.13. (at that time)

Avante

10-14-2016, 03:51 PM

Sitting on 50 wins, yep averaging 10 wins a week, tied with UNT Eagle

week six

lost with Broncos
Seahawks
Giants
Bills
Panthers....if they lose this one.
Bears
Pats
Titans
Packers
Lions
Texans
Chiefs are one of the best teams in the NFL coming off a bye week
Steelers
Cards
Eagles

Avante

10-14-2016, 04:37 PM

Heading into week six and things can change it looks like this to me.

NFC Champs...Seahawks vs Vikes
AFC Champs....Steelers vs Pats

I do have some doubts the Seahawks can beat "these" Vikes in their place in that cold.

chunticakes

10-14-2016, 04:48 PM

Avante

10-14-2016, 09:23 PM

Don't the Vikings play indoors now? And what's Andy Reid's record ATS coming off a bye?

Where did I get this cold thing???

I don't have that stat/trend for a coach. I do have the Chiefs ATS off a bye week, really nothing there to mention. Pretty 50/50 in all roles.

The two most dramatic ATS "spots" coming off a bye.

Denver 22-7
Philly 22-6

Seattle sucks...9-20

All the others nothing really strong either way, the Chiefs 15-14.

I do have some teams that suck/shine heading into a bye week ATS, but only those where it's dramatic like those above. And they have to be searched out.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-14-2016, 10:31 PM

Main reason I don't do ATS::: prevent defense, a.k.a. pussy defense.

Avante

10-16-2016, 10:09 AM

Main reason I don't do ATS::: prevent defense, a.k.a. pussy defense.

I usually play the ATS aspect of it, last two season here plus over 3000, but my man...???? I heard he was in jail. First time I've just played around with SU here.

The key to ATS is knowing how the teams do in whatever role they are in that week.

Home fav
Home dog
Road fav
Road dog

Quick exmple...

Seattle (last 4 seasons) 26-6 HF, vs Cards 12=20 RD, that is a 46-18 trend favoring the Seahawks. Now add the Cards are coming off a bye, there they are 4-12, now add the Seahawks are at home again....16-4. Add all that up ands it's plain to see the Seahawks are the play. Obviously ya look at injuries/weather. Yep, very time comsumning trying to find those 3-5 best plays that week.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-16-2016, 10:26 AM

I usually play the ATS aspect of it, last two season here plus over 3000, but my man...???? I heard he was in jail. First time I've just played around with SU here.

The key to ATS is knowing how the teams do in whatever role they are in that week.

Home fav
Home dog
Road fav
Road dog

Quick exmple...

Seattle (last 4 seasons) 26-6 HF, vs Cards 12=20 RD, that is a 46-18 trend favoring the Seahawks. Now add the Cards are coming off a bye, there they are 4-12, now add the Seahawks are at home again....16-4. Add all that up ands it's plain to see the Seahawks are the play. Obviously ya look at injuries/weather. Yep, very time comsumning trying to find those 3-5 best plays that week.

Or you pick the Patriots at home to cover that -9 spread against some bottom feeding AFC fodder and they go up 35-7 and all looks good, until late in the 3rd quarter when they start giving up score after score because of prevent defense and the score winds up being 35-28 and you lose against the spread. You won SU, but lost ATS. Pointless.

Avante

10-16-2016, 10:28 AM

Week six, NOW is the time where we start to see how things really are, not that we can't still be surprised. Funny watching you guy freaking out after two/three weeks, why do you play that, you haven't learned anything by now?

So what have we learned after 5 weeks?

1.Derek Anderson totally sucks.
2.Chip Kelly is a moron.
3.Dak Prescott/Carson Wentz can play.
4.rookie RB's can step right in and take off (we already knew this)
5.Colin Kaepernick needs his ass kicked.
6.Best triplets in the league....Steelers
7.RGIII needs to do something else.
8.Thursday Night football sucks.

Avante

10-16-2016, 10:30 AM

Or you pick the Patriots at home to cover that -9 spread against some bottom feeding AFC fodder and they go up 35-7 and all looks good, until late in the 3rd quarter when they start giving up score after score because of prevent defense and the score winds up being 35-28 and you lose against the spread. You won SU, but lost ATS. Pointless.

Did ya miss the part about....plus over 3000 right here the last two seasons? I usually win around 2000 a season and have been for the last 30 years, that's pointless?

in 2014 spurraider didn't believe my boasts of ATS prowess so he has this Avante Betting Tracker thread, it was designed to...let's all laugh at Avante....and I started out in week one....down 330, and here they came....YOU SUCK...HAHAHA...FAKE...SUCK..

By week 14 I'm up over a 1000 and nobody wants to talk about it anymore, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~

spurraider went from....YIPPEE DOWN 330~~~~.....to, ok ok, up 1600....ha~~~~

UNT Eagles 2016

10-16-2016, 10:31 AM

Did ya miss the part about....plus over 3000 right here the last two seasons? I usually win around 2000 a season and have been for the last 30 years, that's pointless?
Do you have to pay taxes on that?

Avante

10-16-2016, 10:36 AM

Do you have to pay taxes on that?

Of course not that's what I mean by...my man. All totally illegal, and it appears ...my man...is out of business. The old...middle man, thing.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-16-2016, 10:54 AM

Of course not that's what I mean by...my man. All totally illegal, and it appears ...my man...is out of business. The old...middle man, thing.

cool cool, but you spend that money on food and taking your girl/kids out, etc... don't use that money to buy a house.

Avante

10-16-2016, 10:59 AM

cool cool, but you spend that money on food and taking your girl/kids out, etc... don't use that money to buy a house.

Not so much about the $$$, it's more about putting yourself in the game. If I stand to win a 100 vs lose 100 now you are there with everything having an effect on you. If....you...don't stand to win or lose anything does it really matter who wins ot loses? Totally different deal if you have to hand out 330.

And it;s pretty cool sitting down with some stats/trends figuring it all out on paper then watching it all unfold like it said it would on that paper.

I own a magazine..THE PLAYBOOK...put out by pro gambler Marc Lawrence. Everything ya need to know is there, every stat/trend there is.

chunticakes

10-16-2016, 11:23 AM

Avante

10-16-2016, 12:01 PM

I'm playing your Niners at +9. I tend to like playing teams that switch QB. They tend to rally behind the new QB that first game and do slightly better.

Niners as a RD the last 4 seasons a weak...7-12. Now add that dreaded west coast team in the eastern time zone, not good.

You couldn't find a better "spot" than this?

Yes 9 points is huge and if I HAD to play this game that would be the play, it's just too...????? And I know there are 3-5 better plays out there.

Buffalo as a HF...13-8, but they never lay 9 points.

chunticakes

10-16-2016, 12:26 PM

Niners as a RD the last 4 seasons a weak...7-12. Now add that dreaded west coast team in the eastern time zone, not good.

You couldn't find a better "spot" than this?

Yes 9 points is huge and if I HAD to play this game that would be the play, it's just too...????? And I know there are 3-5 better plays out there.

Buffalo as a HF...13-8, but they never lay 9 points.

Carolina -3.5
Cleveland -7.5
KC -1.5
Seattle -6.5

Avante

10-16-2016, 12:31 PM

Carolina -3.5
Cleveland -7.5
KC -1.5
Seattle -6.5

Cleveland + 7.5???? Talk me into it.

Since I have nowhere to play ...yet...this season I'm not doing any ATS homework, so..???

I do know the Seahawks suck coming off a bye week ATS from an histotical perspective. And the Chiefs shine after a bye week.

There really is something very real to heading into/coming off a bye. Don't ignore this. Also look at those Thursday night teams and that HUGE advantage they have in their next game with all that extra time to prepare.

chunticakes

10-16-2016, 01:04 PM

Cleveland + 7.5???? Talk me into it.

Since I have nowhere to play ...yet...this season I'm not doing any ATS homework, so..???

I do know the Seahawks suck coming off a bye week ATS from an histotical perspective. And the Chiefs shine after a bye week.

There really is something very real to heading into/coming off a bye. Don't ignore this. Also look at those Thursday night teams and that HUGE advantage they have in their next game with all that extra time to prepare.

Tennessee runs the ball well and plays decent defense. I don't think they've allowed over 20 points this year. Anyways, that formula can often help the Titans stay in games, but it’s not the always the best fit when it comes to covering bigger spreads like these.

Avante

10-16-2016, 01:08 PM

Tennessee runs the ball well and plays decent defense. I don't think they've allowed over 20 points this year. Anyways, that formula can often help the Titans stay in games, but it’s not the always the best fit when it comes to covering bigger spreads like these.

Good stuff.

Now that I've looked te game from an ATS perspective, the Browns are the play. Try...3-0-1...in this "spot" recently.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-16-2016, 01:45 PM

We now have the same picks for this week I believe

UNT Eagles 2016

10-16-2016, 01:45 PM

Because I changed my pick to the Packers winning because Dez Bryant is out.

Avante

10-16-2016, 02:23 PM

We now have the same picks for this week I believe

I can't ignore Andy Reid 15-2 after a bye, I changed to the Chiefs.

Avante

10-16-2016, 02:25 PM

Because I changed my pick to the Packers winning because Dez Bryant is out.

The only player that "alone" will change my mind, is the QB, now a ton of injuries will also change my mind.

Avante

10-17-2016, 12:22 AM

So what have we learned so far in 2016.

Shady McCoy is not done.

Andy Reid doesn;t lose after a bye.

The Seahawks are at their worst after a bye.

Derek Anderson sits on a bench for a reason, he sucks~

My Niners totally suck and Chip Kelly is a moron.

Brock Ozweiler is like most first time starters.

Dak Prescott is already setting NFL records.

Carson Wentz is a little better than most rookie QB's.

The Browns are stupid on passing on Wentz to go with RGIII.

The Steelers are hot, cold, hot, cold....

The Panthers really are done for 2016.

Clipper Nation has a rollicking sense of humor, now add that amazing smile.

The NFC East the best division, not a weakling there.

Terrance West can play, averaging 5 yards a carry:hat

Avante

10-17-2016, 12:47 AM

I often read....all the history shit means nothing, different players.

I had the Chiefs beating the Raiders in Oakland for only one reason, Andy Reid 15-2 after a bye week, as we saw it doesn't matter who is on his teams he knows how to win with added time to prepare, now he is 16-2.

Check it out.

Dolphins
Browns
Texans
Colts
Chargers
Eagles
Lions
Panthers

...are a combined ...0-21 on the road in 2016.

Texans
Chiefs
Eagles
Vikes
Seahawks
Steelers

....a combined 17-0 at home.

Avante

10-17-2016, 10:54 AM

That theory of mine is looking pretty good.

Once we start seeing these players doing all these commercials and start making all that $$$$ and are more than just another footballer, and become a ....celebrity...look what happens...

Cam Newton...sucking.
Aaron Rodgers....playing as bad as he ever has.
RGIII...ha~~~
Todd Gurley...where did he go?
Odell Beckham...the guy is a mess**********
Colin Kaepernick...are you kidding me?
Victor Cruz...???

Randall Cobb, Eddie Lacy, Rodgers, Matthews....and the Packers are struggling.

Tony Romo....hurt, done?
Peyton Manning...sucked his last season.
Andrew Luck...hurt, INT INT.

I do doubt their teammates are cool with all that special attention they get either, especially a real young guy like Todd Gurley.

Dak Prescott is young, and as of right now he's not selling anything on tv, and as long as it stays that way....cool.

********** why hasn't anyone grabbed this little shit and ....."look ya little freak, cool your bullshit, you're becoming a fucking embarrashing , ok? (then toss him a few feet)

As I type this I just heard....

Dak Prescott will be with us later on.....Colin Cowherd.

Fabbs

10-17-2016, 11:02 AM

I can't ignore Andy Reid 15-2 after a bye, I changed to the Chiefs.
Hey Almanac Tard,
This was a very useful and current stat you posted on Reid.
Try doing this again please.

Avante

10-17-2016, 11:37 AM

Hey Almanac Tard,
This was a very useful and current stat you posted on Reid.
Try doing this again please.

How about this one....

The Browns have lost the season opener for over a decade, how did they do in 2016, yep...lost the season opener. Now you're thinking....so what that's over...right? How about next season, just like that Andy Reid trend. You put all this stuff in your memory banks for further use.

As we saw with that Andy Reid trend, it really doesn't matter who the players are. Just like west coast teams in the eastern time zone and vice versa. Teams in a double home, double road. Teams heading into a bye, coming off a bye. Teams on the road on Thursday nights.

The bottom line is having that info, and taking the time to put it into use. Most are simply too lazy to search things out, most are simply....I like the Niners...and it ends there.

People are lazy, they don't want to spend the time to learn things.

Avante

10-17-2016, 12:31 PM

What 9.5/10.45 speed looks like n a football field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QPgwhhLJmkE

His senior season in HS at the Mississippi State track champs the 230 pound Durpree loses the 100 by a lean, the guy who beat him the little Calvin Smith, who ended up at Alabama and ran a WR 9.93.

chunticakes

10-17-2016, 01:05 PM

Avante

10-17-2016, 01:15 PM

Is this kid one cool dude or what?

What gets me (most I think) is just how much damn $$$$$ does a guy really need? Peyton comes across as a greedy $$$$ hungry cat, doesn't he?

There are all those 10 year vets who have paid their dues never seeing a dime in endorsements, then here comes this rookie....................

Human nature ya understand.

I see worrying about doing this spot and that spot as a distraction especially for young players. Some old guy about to retire....sure.

Avante

10-18-2016, 01:07 AM

I have his rookie card.

WHY A HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL PLAYER COULD JUMP RIGHT TO THE NFL

1. It has already happened

This question has already been answered. The last time it was attempted, it was a success.

Andy Livingston played on the 1964 Chicago Bears as a 19-year-old out of high school. He was a star running back and sprinter at Mesa High in Arizona. He never graduated because he got married and fathered a child, and subsequently stopped attending school.

In a desire to support his family, and through some fortuitous breaks, Livingston connected with George Halas, who owned the Chicago Bears. Impressed by Livingston’s physical gifts, Halas secured a hardship exemption for Livingston, making him eligible to play with the Bears that fall.

In his first game, the 6-foot-1, 235-pound Livingston returned a kickoff 86 yards for a touchdown. To provide some context for that impressive and rare feat, there were only two other kickoffs returned for scores in professional football that entire season.

How many NFL would stand in line to sign a high school player if it was worth a special teams touchdown? Considering that last year’s NFL playoff games were decided by an average of 9.8 points, my guess: 32.

Avante

10-20-2016, 03:53 PM

When I become an NFL head coach.

Do not try and block a punt (other than raising up their hands) until it becomes real obvious we can't win the game unless we make something happen. Way too many stupid running into the kicker penalties.

Same thing with all kicks.

On a punt/kickoff return, just get in front of a would be tackler, don't worry about a return as much as a penalty. Do not use your hands at all.

I'd run a three TE offense, and MUST have a mobile QB. Two speed receivers, who can play RB also. Then three FB/TE types, they can block, run, receive.

I'm running three down linemen, and five backers, two corners and a single safety.

60-40 running the ball, my goal is to wear down a defense and let my defense rest.

I will do all I can to bring in players out of the power five conferences, (yes I know tons of great small school players) they are used to the big stage early on. And were recruited there for a reason.

None of my players will be acting like a retarded monkey over a play, nobody taking a knee or doing anything to draw attention away from the team.

Avante

10-24-2016, 11:15 AM

A few thoughts now that we have had some time to get a real feel for things.

The Vikes must find a running game.

Jay Ajayi the perfect blend of power/agility/speed, a mix of Csonka & Mercury.

Could the lack of mobility actually be a blessing in disgiuse for Russell Wilson? Now he must stand tall in the pocket. Some of his passes last night were amazing.

A big power back and two big power TE's, now add a quick cat Julian Edelman and the greatest QB playing the game today and a HOF head coach, who can beat the Pats?

How did I miss this OBVIOUS "spot".....Vikes on the road coming off a bye vs a team that had just been embarrashed now at home....duh~~~~

The Chargers the one team in the league FAR better than their record.

Speaking of the Chargers....why ya slow the fuck down...Melvin Gordon.

What's with Todd Gurley, too many burgers?

Best division....NFC East, not a weakling there. Obviously the worst...AFC South.

Ya know how hard it is to be a Niner fan today? Kelly has to go the guy hasn't a clue in the pro game.

Three tiers...

A joke...Browns, Bears, Niners, Jags (if the Panthers lose one more)
Legit shot at playing in the Championship games.

Seattle, Arizona, GB, Philly, Dallas, Minn
NE, Den, KC, Pitt, Oak,

Also ran....everyone else.

Went 9-4 (had GB) so 70 wins with Denver tonight. Yep, hitting what I always do... 10 (average) wins a week.

61-32 also as ya know.

NYG @ LA (London)
NO @ KC...........................**************** Chiefs win it.
MIN @ PHI (surprise pick of the week)*********** Vikes win it.
IND @ TEN
BUF @ MIA*************** Bills win it.
WAS @ DET************************************Lions win it.
CLE @ CIN (safety pick of the week)
OAK @ JAX
BAL @ NYJ
SD @ ATL
TB @ SF
NE @ PIT
SEA @ AZ

HOU @ DEN

Avante

10-24-2016, 02:15 PM

Avante

10-24-2016, 02:58 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TGzq2t7mb5A

We rarely see an NFL caliber RB who ran the 400m. A lot have hurdled like Gurley, Elliott or ran the 100m like Charles, Chris Johnson but not many ran the 4x4 relay.

Paul Robinson who was the first Bengal to have a 1000 yard season ran the 400 hurdles/4x4 while at Arizona. HOFer Ollie Matson was an Olympic 400/4x4 medalist, he was a Chicago Card/Ram.

As we can see Ajayi ran the 4x4 relay.
A 220 pounder running 400m, whoa~~~~

Ajayi was born in London (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/London), England (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/England) to Nigerian (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Nigerian) parents and moved to Maryland (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Maryland) in the United States (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/United_States) when he was seven years old in 2000.[1] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-1)[2] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-2) He eventually moved to Texas (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Texas), where he attended Frisco Liberty High School (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Frisco_Liberty_High_School). As a senior, he rushed for 2,240 yards and had 35 touchdowns (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Touchdowns).[3] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-3) He also earned one varsity letter (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Varsity_letter) in track & field (http://www.spurstalk.com/wiki/Track_%26_field) as a member of the 4x400-meter (3:21.75), 4 × 200 m (1:29.44) and 4 × 100 m (42.86) district championship teams.[4] (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/#cite_note-4)

Avante

10-25-2016, 02:43 AM

What you want to look at here is Net Pts. That tells the tale right there. And we do have to wait until around now, to get a real read.

http://www.nfl.com/standings

Avante

10-27-2016, 11:23 AM

Nothing tells us about a team anymore than winning on the road does. Good teams will...6-2.

So who the best road win? Will ignore beating weaklings.

Cards....0
Falcons....Denver
Ravens...0
Bills...NE
Panthers...0
Bears....0
Bengals....0
Browns...hahaha~~~~
Cowboys....GB
Broncos...Cincy
Liona...0
Packers....0
Texans...0
Colts....0
Jags...0
Chiefs...Oakland
Rams...Arizona
Dolphins...0
Vikes...0
Pats...Arizona, Pitt
Saints...0
Giants...Cowboys
Jets....Buff
Raiders...0
Eagles...0
Steelers....Wash
Chargers...Atlanta
Niners....0
Seahawks...0
Buc;s...Atlanta
Titans...Detroit
Redskins...NYG

UNT Eagles 2016

10-27-2016, 12:10 PM

5-3 is just fine for an elite team along with 7-1 or better at home tbh.

Avante

10-27-2016, 12:14 PM

5-3 is just fine for an elite team along with 7-1 or better at home tbh.

I agree, 5-3. 7-1....yep!

While bad teams can't win on the road. And usually are 3-5ish at home.

Avante

10-28-2016, 11:32 AM

I just saw the most amazing td pass in the history of football. Something I'm sure you will see sooner ot later somewhere.

It was in a HS game and thrown by a junior QB. The guy takes off right, then does a Magic Johnson behind the back toss to his receiver standing in the endzone, totally amazing. A behind the back TD pass, yep......a first~~~

See if it's on youtube yet.

Well I'll be damn, while looking for that pass I was talking about I found this, it is almost as incredible.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z-jDRAHZEo

Of course the greatest play is that 15 lateral Trinity College play.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-28-2016, 05:53 PM

^ Yeah, and if it's intercepted? The poor kid is a special teams player on junior varsity by the next day.

Avante

10-28-2016, 07:45 PM

^ Yeah, and if it's intercepted? The poor kid is a special teams player on junior varsity by the next day.

I think it's pretty obvious they worked on that play and it was something a coach came up with so the kid was just following orders. And we don't know the score of the game, I'm guessing they had a nice lead.

Saw a grade school play were the QB simply picked the ball up and walked over to a ref, yep, then he took off running....ha~~~~

UNT Eagles 2016

10-28-2016, 07:52 PM

^ laff

Avante

10-29-2016, 01:43 AM

^ laff

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdYLEuK0dEc

Avante

10-31-2016, 01:52 AM

Another black QB replacing a white one, expect to be seeing a lot of this from here on out. That ability run, to extend a play, evade the pass rush a biggie.

If a QB can hurt ya (not just move around in the pocket) with the run that put's a whole other level of stress on a defense.

There are more black QB 's at big time college programs than ever before. And where does the NFL get their QB's?

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At the half way mark using a ranking system I use it looks like this (Vikes will beat the Bears)

Arizona 11
Atlanta 15~~~~~~~~~~
Baltimore 10
Buffalo 13
Carolina 8
Chicago 6
Cincinnati 11
Cleveland 5
Dallas 18~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Denver 17~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Detroit 14
Green Bay 12
Houston 15
Indy 11
Jacksonville 9
KC 17~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
LA 11
Miami 11
Minnesota 15~~~~~~~~~
New England 21~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
New Orleans 11
New York Giants 14
New York Jets 10
Oakland 19~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Philly 13
Pittsburgh 12
San Diego 13
San Francisco 5
Seattle 12
Tampa Bay 12
Tennessee 13
Washington 13

Winning on the road is HUGE at all levels of football, the Pats 4-0 on the road, the Raiders 5-0.

Avante

10-31-2016, 02:31 AM

Tyreek Hill needs to play a bigger role in that Chiefs offense, as I mentioned he is the fastest player in the NFL in 2016.

Avante

10-31-2016, 01:39 PM

Every single game we see played in the NFL we see a play where the refs got in wrong, yep, he didn't catch it/INT, yes it was a fumble, no it wasn't etc. Imagine the game back before instant replay. All those plays where the refs got it wrong and it stayed wrong, hmmmmmm?

chunticakes

10-31-2016, 06:28 PM

Bears or Vikings tonight Avante?

I need to pick one for a tie breaker.

Avante

10-31-2016, 06:45 PM

Bears or Vikings tonight Avante (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=33483)?

I need to pick one for a tie breaker.

Chicago as a home dog on MNF....4-3
Vikes as a RF....0-4.

So we a conflict here. The better team with the inferior ATS "spot". Sorry but this is a pass.

Vikes SU, but that won't help ya. A good team coming off a loss, golden as far as SU goes.

Bears are heading into a bye week.

The Vikes are 5-2 last 7 ATS vs Chicago, but this is MNF.

chunticakes

10-31-2016, 07:07 PM

Chicago as a home dog on MNF....4-3
Vikes as a RF....0-4.

So we a conflict here. The better team with the inferior ATS "spot". Sorry but this is a pass.

Vikes SU, but that won't help ya. A good team coming off a loss, golden as far as SU goes.

Bears are heading into a bye week.

The Vikes are 5-2 last 7 ATS vs Chicago, but this is MNF.

Exactly. I don't know who to take lol

Avante

10-31-2016, 07:11 PM

Exactly. I don't know who to take lol

There are usually only 3-5 really solid ATS plays a week, trying to elimated all but those is the trick and yep, time consuming.

I have no doubts the Vikes win the game but how can I buck a...0-4...trend, and I don't need to.

Avante

10-31-2016, 10:52 PM

Why ya don't get too jacked up early in a season.

The Vikes were cooking, they were going to do this and do that, they were 5-0 and .....

Now look at them, but......

Like I have mentioned, NFL teams do not put out the same amount off intensity from week to week, yep, they are just trying to make the playoffs so if they can take a week off they do. The Packers had lost, the Lions had lost, the Bears are no threat so what did we see out of the Vikings tonight, yep......not interested, they are sitting pretty.

UNT Eagles 2016

10-31-2016, 11:09 PM

chunticakes

10-31-2016, 11:44 PM

You can't stop Avante...you can only hope to contain him.

Avante

11-01-2016, 06:22 AM

As of tonight, the 2016 pick em contest between myself and Avante is officially over -- we'll call it a draw.

It's because my "safety" pick (survive or die pick) was the Vikings winning over the Bears, so by the rules I've always played by, if you lose a safety pick you're eliminated from contention. Since Avante doesn't do "safety picks", we can't give him the victory here, so it's a draw.

Notice how I couldn't play the Vikes ATS ...on the road on MNF? They are now 0-5 in that "spot". You couldn't find a better game than that to play?

The best play on the board was the Pats over Buffalo, who beats the Pats twice in a season?

Avante

11-01-2016, 06:39 AM

Now that we have a nice sample size ?(not two/three weeks, sheesh~~~~)

The Cowboys and Eagles are set at QB for the next decade.

Russell Wilson is hurting.

The Vikes have no running game.

Elliott is the real deal.

The Browns were stupid for passing up on Wentz, and RGIII....ha~~~~

Cam Newton is a flake.

Chip Kelly is an idiot and Colin Kaepernick needs his ass kicked.

The Pats are simply on another wrung of the ladder right now.

Way WAY too many injuries, it's ridiculous.

By the time he retires THE GRONK will be the best TE who ever played the game.

What happened to Todd Gurley?

The Raiders will be in a serious SB hunt, soon.

NEVER EVER....get all giddy over anything the first few weeks of any season, the Vikes a prime example.

UNT Eagles 2016

11-01-2016, 11:13 AM

NEVER EVER....get all giddy over anything the first few weeks of any season, the Vikes a prime example .

Atlanta last year? Arizona 2014?

Avante

11-01-2016, 12:33 PM

Atlanta last year? Arizona 2014?

I never understand why so many are in such a damn rush to.....HE/THEY IS GREAT, HE/THEY SUCK...after just a few games, what's the rush, slow down give things some time.

The NFL is choked full of teams/players making dramatic changes from one season to the next and some during a season, that's why ya slow down,give it some time.

Avante

11-03-2016, 07:16 PM

There is a site out there called CASTEFOOTBALL, it's a place where a bunch of redneck racists get to together and try to make every excuse in the world as to why whites suck vs blacks. In a word.....comical.

They can't seem to figure out blacks are simply blessed with a more speed, quicks physique. And yes that has been proven. They can't see the difference in elusiveness, agility and quicks, despite the fact it's staring them right in the face?

I found that site some years ago, I went in as...Blind Dawg. And yes...."you ain't black are ya?"...haha~~~~ I talked about....

Come on gang, we can't ignore what our eyes are telling us, there is a reason no white sprinter from the USA had won an Olympic 100n since 1956. There is a reason we rarely see white 1000 yard rushers in the NFL. There is a reason there are....0....white cornerbacks in the NFL.

Come on guys, stop acting stupid.

Well I battled that whole board for about a week, kicking all their racist asses, yep, real surprised I lasted that long.

http://www.castefootball.us/index.php

Avante

11-07-2016, 01:31 PM

Hopefully some of you out there are starting to pick up on my....slow down, give things some time.

Look at the Vikings, what happened?

Compare the 2015 Melvin Gordon with the 2016 version, totally different player.

Now don't be a rookie and...see see Dak Prescott is better than Carson Wentz, ok? This is...see what happens down the road.

The Ravens were rolling at 3-0, now...4-4.

The Lions were sucking at 1-3, now...5-4.

Wow, the 3-1 Rams, now...3-5.

Wow, the Eagles at 3-0, now...4-4.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

As of right now...... (right now~~~)

1.Pats
2.Cowboys
3.Chiefs
4.Raiders
5.Falcons
6.Seahawks
7.Broncos
8.Lions
9.Giants
10.Steelers

Avante

11-08-2016, 12:51 AM

What a show Russell Wilson put on tonight, the guy was amazing. Incredible display of passing. Easy to see why he set an NCAA passing record. Led the NFL with a 110.1 in 2015, has played in two SB's and won a playoff game in every season.

What an amazing QB.

So much for BEAST MODE, hahahahaha!!!!!!!!!! All that did was hold the guy back. First season without Lynch, all he does his set an NFL record 4000/30/500 and that 110.1 I mentioned. Something he could have been doing all along.

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Robert Woods was the nations top 400m sprinter while in HS, then off to USC and good bye track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHNFdZ7kGLA

He went to the same HS as did Tom Brady and Lynn Swann. Swann a two time state champ in the long jump.

How many INT's did Luck throw Sunday, oh yeah...two.

Avante

11-08-2016, 02:17 AM

The Bills and speed?

They had the very first, AFL's Fastest Man with Elbert 'Golden Wheels" Dubenion, a 9.5 sptinter out if tiny Blufton.

They had O.J.Simpson, the only Heisman winner to also hold a World Record in track, he ran on USC's WR 4x1 team.

There was 9.3 ASU sprinter J.D.Hill.

Cornells Bo Roberson was an Olympic sliver medalist in the long jump, he also had 9.4 jets.

C.J.Spiller, Robert Woods, Sammy Watkins, Marquiez Goodwin, all tracksters.

Avante

11-08-2016, 11:58 AM

I think it's pretty obvious that Lynch retiring was a blessing in disquise for Russell Wilson. Here they sit at 5-2-1, which is as good as they get in the first half of a season and Wilson is passing better than ever because he has to.

Last night we saw why he left Wisconsin with the greatest passing season ever in NCAA history. He put the ball on the money, if this had been darts look at all those bulls eyes. Amazing display of passing.

If we look at the legends like Montana, Brady, Peyton, Brees, Rodgers, Favre etc, all of them got better with age. None of them peaked out at 27-30. And RW will be no different, his best is yet to come.

Avante

11-08-2016, 02:00 PM

Interesting numbers.

Miami
Pitt
Cincy
Clev
Hous
Jax
SD
Den
Philly
Min
Det
Caro
SF

are a combined..8-38 on the road in 2016.

Avante

11-10-2016, 04:50 PM

Tonight both teams wll feature small school RB's, West out of Towson and Crowell out of Alabama St, which is in the SWAC. That conference has given the NFL....

Clem Daneils Prairie View the first 1000 yd rusher for the Raiders.
Doug Williams the first black QB to win a SB, Grambling.
Otis Taylor Prairie View who made one of the biggest plays in SB history.
The great Jerry Rice MVS and Walter Payton Jackson St

Now add HOFers

Aeneas Williams Southern U
Willie Davis Grambling
Lem Barney Jackson St
Buck Buchanon Grambling
Willie Brown Grambling
John Stallworth Alabama St

Towson did have Dave Meggett.

Who can tell me what stud RB came out of...

Coe
Furman
Tiffin
The Citadel
UOP
Abilene Christian
West Texas State
North Texas State
Colgate
Yale
Compton JC
No college football
Azusa Pacific
Maryland Eastern Shore
Morgan State

SpursforSix

11-10-2016, 05:00 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdYLEuK0dEc

That's pretty sorry for that age. You've got some kids still trying to learn the game and some wiseass coach thinks he's fucking Belichick.

Avante

11-10-2016, 05:02 PM

That's pretty sorry for that age. You've got some kids still trying to learn the game and some wiseass coach thinks he's fucking Belichick.

Do you think that defense will ever fall for that again?

Deception is a huge part of all football at all levels.

Marino faking a spike.
Punters passing the ball.
Hiking to a RB instead of the QB.
Etc etc etc etc........

SpursforSix

11-10-2016, 05:07 PM

Do you think that defense will ever fall for that again?

Deception is a huge part of all football at all levels.

Marino faking a spike.
Punters passing the ball.
Hiking to a RB instead of the QB.
Etc etc etc etc........

So...whatever is good for a grownup is good for a kid?

Avante

11-10-2016, 05:29 PM

So...whatever is good for a grownup is good for a kid?

This is football, ok? Part of the game is trickery, yep, and end around with the receiver throwing a pass. A pitchout to a back who hands oiff to a receiver who throws to the QB who went unnoticed down the field, that is part of the game.

When I was in HS we had a play where a receiver would get as close to the side line as possible and just stand there as if he watching the game,(everyone else in the huddle) yep you guessed it at the snap there he goes. It worked about half the time.

Avante

11-13-2016, 07:22 AM

Steelers at home after an embarasshing loss, hmmmmmmmm?

MultiTroll

11-13-2016, 11:34 AM

As of right now...... (right now~~~)

1.Pats

6.Seahawks

What kind of spread stats you got for me?
West Coast to East Coast etc.

Avante

11-14-2016, 12:00 AM

Anyone still not getting the greatness of Russell Wilson? He's one yard away from being 3-0 vs Tom Brady.

What an amazing QB this young guy is, in a word....wow~~~

Avante

11-14-2016, 12:31 AM

What kind of spread stats you got for me?
West Coast to East Coast etc.

Don't have that info, what I do have (not that it matters now) is this...

Seattle was 5-2 ATS the last 7 on the road vs NE.
Since RW arrived the Seahawks are 26-10 ATS from week 10 onward. The Pats...16-18ATS from week 10. That gives Seattle a 49-28 trend.

Avante

11-14-2016, 12:42 AM

I think it's time to cool the bullshit in hiding and get real, ain't Russell Wilson amazing or what?

Avante

11-14-2016, 03:00 AM

Giants are 8-2 ATS following BB SU wins, the Bengals are 1-7 on the road vs non division foes. That is a 15-3 trend favoring the Giants in this "spot".

The Giants are 3-1 at home, the Bengals 1-3 on the road.

Now we have 21-5 trend favoring the Giants.

This little gem.

NFL East is 8-1-1 vs the AFC in 2016.

I'm sure most of you are well aware of how the Bengals have done in these prime time games, yep, they suck.

Avante

11-14-2016, 11:22 AM

I can see it now....

Russell Wilson can be playing great like we saw, he takes the Seahawks to the NFC title game. All this time Clipper Nation is....quiet. Then in the title game RW fumbles, and the Cowboys win, now here he comes.....SEE SEE SEE SEE HE SUCKS HE'S A FAGGOT A FAGGOT............hahahahaha~~~~~

Fuck the fact the guy has played in how many playoff games in five seasons, how many NFL firsts does he have, how many wins? Fuck all that he fumbles so.....STRUGGLE IS A FAGGOT, YIPPPPPPEEEEEEE~~~~~~~~~~

And, if he did win the NFC and "ANOTHER" Superbowl, it's.......who couldn't win with Jimmy Graham, Doug Baldwin and that monster D?

Dak Prescott has a HOF TE, the best 0 line in the NFL, the best RB in the NFL, AND....Dez Bryant. Tom Brady has Bill Belichick. Joe Montana had Bill Walsh, Dwight Clarke, Jerry Rice, John Taylor, Roger Craig, and we can do that with all the great QB's.

Peyton Manning had Edgerrin James, Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clarke. Troy Aikman had....................

Avante

11-14-2016, 12:42 PM

Seahawks from weeks 11-17.

2012...6-2 playoff win
2013...7-2 SB win~~~
2014...8-1 lose SB
2015...6-2 playoff win

2016 being realistic, they will be favored in every game left. Will probably have that game where it just ain't working. So....12-3-1, little doubt 11-4-1.

SpursforSix

11-14-2016, 12:45 PM

Avante

11-14-2016, 12:52 PM

If Dak was on Cleveland, they'd be 5-4

Show me those 4 wins.

Avante

11-14-2016, 12:54 PM

Colin Cowherd is talking about what has gotten lost, that senior season at Wisconsin for Russell Wilson, there it was right there, amazing season. All this....he can't throw ....hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Wilson

Comp%...72.8, Andrew Luck 71.3
yards....3158, 3517
TD/INT 33-7, 37-10
QB rating, an NCAA record...191.8, 169.7

SpursforSix

11-14-2016, 02:31 PM

Show me those 4 wins.

Ravens, Dolphins, Titans, Jets, Cowboys. That's 5.

And the Bengals would be 6.

Avante

11-14-2016, 02:48 PM

You are basing that opinion on what stats, facts, trends? Why would Cleveland win those games?

SpursforSix

11-14-2016, 02:54 PM

You are basing that opinion on what stats, facts, trends? Why would Cleveland win those games?

Yes, stats, facts, and trends.

Avante

11-14-2016, 03:04 PM

Yes, stats, facts, and trends.

Talk me into the logic behind Cleveland being 5-4 with Prescott at the helm. Nuts and bolts, ok?

SpursforSix

11-14-2016, 03:06 PM

Talk me into the logic behind Cleveland being 5-4 with Prescott at the helm. Nuts and bolts, ok?

Turnovers, QB rating, blah blah blah.

Avante

11-14-2016, 05:11 PM

Turnovers, QB rating, blah blah blah.

So you're just running your mouth, I knew that.

chunticakes

11-14-2016, 07:40 PM

Turnovers, QB rating, blah blah blah.

Yep. You gotta pick your....spots.

SpursforSix

11-14-2016, 08:22 PM

So you're just running your mouth, I knew that.

Ok genius...tell me which of my picks are wrong and tell me why.

Avante

11-15-2016, 12:16 AM

Ok genius...tell me which of my picks are wrong and tell me why.

When will you stop being so damn lazy? Dude. stop trying so hard to be a clown, ok? Do your homework amigo, ok? Now give me any reasoning at all as to why the Browns woud win those games, ok? Let me guess, you can't because ya were just running your chops with no clue at all......none~~~~

Little guy, stop...see see me everyone, I funny, huh?....ok? It makes ya look stupid.

Avante

11-15-2016, 12:25 AM

UNT Eagles 2016

11-15-2016, 12:58 AM

It's a damn shame I'm not still doing picks, because I would have been 13-1 (I would have picked Chargers over Dolphins) this week... OH WELL.

UNT Eagles 2016

11-15-2016, 01:03 AM

The Steelers could still win the North. The Ravens have it really hard the next six weeks....

lose at Dallas
could lose one of these at home....Cincy, Miami
lose at NE
could lose to Philly
will lose at Pitt
could lose at Cincy

Steelers will beat the Browns, probably beat the Colts, beat the Giants, win one of at Buff/Cincy beat Browns.

If the Steelers do get in the playoffs, they will be a tough out for anyone. Obviously no Wild Card coming from this division.
The AFC North records are down this year, but a major part of it is they're being eaten by the NFC Beast, the best division in the NFL. And a lot of idiot NFL "experts" predicted before the season that it'd be the other way around. Typical idiocy. Cinci Bungles are and always have been pretenders, props to ME for calling them to be 8-8 this year (they won't be exactly that because of the tie, but they'll hover around there... no playoffs for Dickhead Dolton and Punkhead Burfict and that faggot coach)...

With that schedule, Baltimore finishes 7-9... Pittsburgh could win the division at 8-8, no joke. The Giants could win in Pittsbugh, no lie. When Eli smells playoffs, man...

Avante

11-15-2016, 01:04 AM

It's a damn shame I'm not still doing picks, because I would have been 13-1 (I would have picked Chargers over Dolphins) this week... OH WELL.

What's your take on the Titans vs Colts Sunday?

UNT Eagles 2016

11-15-2016, 01:05 AM

What's your take on the Titans vs Colts Sunday?

Colts are at home. Needing a win. Think Luck finds a way to carry the day. Tennessee isn't a real good passing offense which is the Colts' big problem on defense, so advantage Indiana.

Avante

11-15-2016, 12:26 PM

The AFC North records are down this year, but a major part of it is they're being eaten by the NFC Beast, the best division in the NFL. And a lot of idiot NFL "experts" predicted before the season that it'd be the other way around. Typical idiocy. Cinci Bungles are and always have been pretenders, props to ME for calling them to be 8-8 this year (they won't be exactly that because of the tie, but they'll hover around there... no playoffs for Dickhead Dolton and Punkhead Burfict and that faggot coach)...

With that schedule, Baltimore finishes 7-9... Pittsburgh could win the division at 8-8, no joke. The Giants could win in Pittsbugh, no lie. When Eli smells playoffs, man...

I think everyone gets the Bengals. I had them losing last night.

I agree the Giants could win vs Steelers, I just doubt it "right now". And I also agree an 8-8 might win the North. I do see a playoff Steelers team far more capable than a Ravens team.

Avante

11-15-2016, 12:31 PM

Colts are at home. Needing a win. Think Luck finds a way to carry the day. Tennessee isn't a real good passing offense which is the Colts' big problem on defense, so advantage Indiana.

The Colts coming out of a bye week...17-11, and they have owned the Titans at home winning the last 8. I was looking for agreement. But......this is the only Titans team to be 5-5 after 10 games since 2008.

SpursforSix

11-15-2016, 01:04 PM

When will you stop being so damn lazy? Dude. stop trying so hard to be a clown, ok? Do your homework amigo, ok? Now give me any reasoning at all as to why the Browns woud win those games, ok? Let me guess, you can't because ya were just running your chops with no clue at all......none~~~~

Little guy, stop...see see me everyone, I funny, huh?....ok? It makes ya look stupid.

I gave you the games. Tell me why I'm wrong. Oh yeah...you can't.

Avante

11-15-2016, 01:17 PM

I gave you the games. Tell me why I'm wrong. Oh yeah...you can't.

Dude, will you ever figure this out? My God guy, sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Will you ever figure out just how deeply I'm into those pet interests of mine? Come on little man, damn!

Right here in my hand, the last 10 seasons of everything that all the teams have done, ok guy. It's a magazine for ATS players that covers ALL/100% of....EVERYTHING~~~~~~~~~~~

Ya wanna talk what the Browns have done in every game since 2006?

Ever see me break down an ATS "spot"...? All these teams play a different role from week to week, ok little guy, they will be one of 4 things. ok?

home fav
home dog
road fav
road dog

...ok ya with me?

The Browns are on the road as a dog, in that "role" they are a weak 3-20, they are playing the Steelers who are a home fav.ok? In that role....20-3, so that gives the Steelers a 40-6...."trend"...ok?

Now we can do that same thing playing SU, ok little man?

Dude, I'm not the one who said the Browns could win those games, that was you, ok? So back it up with the...why....can you? Do you understand home and road? After a bye, heading into a bye, east coast to west coast and vice versa? Prime time games?

SpursforSix

11-15-2016, 01:52 PM

Do you understand home and road? After a bye, heading into a bye, east coast to west coast and vice versa? Prime time games?

Yes. I'm an expert in all that.

Avante

11-15-2016, 02:04 PM

Yes. I'm an expert in all that.

Don't ya ever get bored playing this silly shit? Looking stupid is cool with you?

I;m going to ask you a question that all us "EXPERTS" are aware of, ok? You don't know shit and are too fucking lazy to find it so you will piss it off with more stupid bullshit, watch.

Speaking of the Browns.

Who was their 26 foot long jumper who was on the USA team that beat the Russians back in the day?

Come on little guy, put out a fucking effort and shut me up, ok? Find that, ok?

Watch this lazy fuck, he can't do shit. Fucking clown.

SpursforSix

11-15-2016, 03:28 PM

Don't ya ever get bored playing this silly shit? Looking stupid is cool with you?

I;m going to ask you a question that all us "EXPERTS" are aware of, ok? You don't know shit and are too fucking lazy to find it so you will piss it off with more stupid bullshit, watch.

Speaking of the Browns.

Who was their 26 foot long jumper who was on the USA team that beat the Russians back in the day?

Come on little guy, put out a fucking effort and shut me up, ok? Find that, ok?

Watch this lazy fuck, he can't do shit. Fucking clown.

what does that have to do with picking winners?

Avante

11-15-2016, 03:38 PM

what does that have to do with picking winners?

Dude, you keep talking about being an EXPERT, yet I have yet to see you do anything. You do...0. You can't even break down a game. You can NEVER EVER answer anything.

Break down how the Browns were going to win any one of those games, ok? Now you will do...0...again, and this is an EXPERT hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You are a clown who thinks he's troling Avante, to look like an idiot doesn't seem to bother you.

Stupid, the cat I was looking for was Paul Warfield, a 26-2 jumper while at Ohio State. There he was a RB, he became a HOF receiver with the Browns. That, is why I am an expert and you are not.

SpursforSix

11-15-2016, 05:03 PM

Dude, you keep talking about being an EXPERT, yet I have yet to see you do anything. You do...0. You can't even break down a game. You can NEVER EVER answer anything.

Break down how the Browns were going to win any one of those games, ok? Now you will do...0...again, and this is an EXPERT hahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

You are a clown who thinks he's troling Avante, to look like an idiot doesn't seem to bother you.

Stupid, the cat I was looking for was Paul Warfield, a 26-2 jumper while at Ohio State. There he was a RB, he became a HOF receiver with the Browns. That, is why I am an expert and you are not.

Everyone knows who the fuck Paul Warfield was. Would have even had better stats had Miami not had been a run dominant team. But at least he made the D accountable for him. Yep...couldn't nope...leave him uncovered.
IIRC, in 1973, he only caught 29 passes. But 11 of them were for touchdowns. Cat was fast and could hop up there and grab a football. Yep. Paul Warfield.

Avante

11-15-2016, 05:34 PM

Everyone knows who the fuck Paul Warfield was. Would have even had better stats had Miami not had been a run dominant team. But at least he made the D accountable for him. Yep...couldn't nope...leave him uncovered.
IIRC, in 1973, he only caught 29 passes. But 11 of them were for touchdowns. Cat was fast and could hop up there and grab a football. Yep. Paul Warfield.

But.....who knew about his long jumping ability, well? Who knew he was a converted RB, well?

Keeping with the Btowns, who was that other Big 10 track star the Btowns once had? He was a 100/110hurdles champ, and like Warfield is also in the Hall of Fame, who?

Will you ever cool your lazinss and Google anything?

SpursforSix

11-15-2016, 05:37 PM

But.....who knew about his long jumping ability, well? Who knew he was a converted RB, well?

Keeping with the Btowns, who was that other Big 10 track star the Btowns once had? He was a 100/110hurdles champ, and like Warfield is also in the Hall of Fame, who?

Will you ever cool your lazinss and Google anything?

No one cares. I care so little that I don't even feel like spending the 2 seconds searching my brain for the answer.
Knowing this shit will not make anyone's lives any better.

UNT Eagles 2016

11-15-2016, 05:45 PM

The Colts coming out of a bye week...17-11, and they have owned the Titans at home winning the last 8. I was looking for agreement. But......this is the only Titans team to be 5-5 after 10 games since 2008.

The Titans are like the Dolphins and Bills, they'll threaten midway through the season only to flame out late and finish just below average enough to not get a premium draft pick

UNT Eagles 2016

11-15-2016, 05:47 PM

I think everyone gets the Bengals. I had them losing last night.

I agree the Giants could win vs Steelers, I just doubt it "right now". And I also agree an 8-8 might win the North. I do see a playoff Steelers team far more capable than a Ravens team.
But props to me for having the Bengals 8-8 before the start of the season, when so-called "experts" had them winning 11+ and contending for a playoff bye. Same thing for Arizona, if you recall I had them missing the playoffs in my pre-season predictions, and everyone called me stupid for it. AZ and CIN have a lot in common; they were just good enough on both sides of the ball the past few years, but now they've gotten older and they're just bad enough, and that difference has cost those teams all the close ones.

Avante

11-15-2016, 06:09 PM

No one cares. I care so little that I don't even feel like spending the 2 seconds searching my brain for the answer.
Knowing this shit will not make anyone's lives any better.

Does bugging people on the internet make your life any better? Yet that's what ya do, right?

Little man, when it comes to football/track/blues I have no equal, yep, makes my life better.

Why are you so lazy and don't care to learn anything, why stay stupid? I want to know it all, so I do.

Avante

11-22-2016, 03:05 PM

Russell Wilson is amazing, and it's funny watching those who....it's BEAST MODE....hahaha~~ looking retarded now. So many are now....ok ok ok, he's pretty good....ha~~~~

We will see two black QB's play for the NCAA/NFC titles. Only Tom Brady the white boy to meet Prescott/Wilson in the SB.

Anyone STILL not get the running game? Where would the Cowboys be without Elliott, Emmitt, Dorsett, Don Perkins?

Can we really play pro football and be this concerned with player safety? We all get our bell rung from HS football on, it's just part of it. Now no Andrew Luck on Thursday? This ..."play safe guys"...is hurting the game, it's like telling a boxer..."don't hit him too hard".

How in the hell could the refs not see that first down TWICE in the Raider*** game, wow~~~ Now add that TD on the sideline, yep, the Raiders should have lost that game.

The Seahawks need to sign Ronnie Hillman.

*** will be a force starting next season, great coach/QB combo means everything.

Avante

11-23-2016, 03:35 PM

Gronkowski out Sunday as is Andrew Luck tomorrow.

Back in the day Luck would have been playing, can the NFL really afford to be this safe? Can football be played safe?

spurraider21

11-23-2016, 03:36 PM

Gronkowski out Sunday as is Andrew Luck tomorrow.

Back in the day Luck would have been playing, can the NFL really afford to be this safe? Can football be played safe?and back in the day careers were shorter except for the select few like blanda

Avante

11-23-2016, 03:41 PM

and back in the day careers were shorter except for the select few like blanda

So you really think a league where a big guy was 290 and a fast guy guy ran a 4.5 was more dangerous than today where every team has a dozen 300 pounders and a fast guy runs a 4.3...??? Guys playing on Sunday then on a Thursday....huh?

Where did ya get this idea guys had shorter careers back in the day?

Just one of a ton.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PerrJo00.htm

17 seasons for a RB.

Want more?

College football is about the sport, pto football is the entertainment business. For the stars of the show to not be out there, that is bad for business.

Sorry gang but Mick Jagger is in concussion protocol so he won't be here tonight, enjoy the show.

spurraider21

11-23-2016, 03:45 PM

So you really think a league where a big guy was 290 and a fast guy guy ran a 4.5 was more dangerous than today where every team has a dozen 300 pounders and a fast guy runs a 4.3...??? Guys playing on Sunday then on a Thursday....huh?

Where did ya get this idea guys had shorter careers back in the day?

Just one of a ton.

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/P/PerrJo00.htm

17 seasons for a RB.

Want more?12 game seasons

Avante

11-23-2016, 03:53 PM

12 game seasons

Dude...

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/R/RiceJe00.htm

You have any idea at all about any of this?

The game today is played at a FAR faster pace by bigger and stronger and faster athletes, it is far more dangerous now than ever. You really don't get that?

Willie Davis was a monster D lineman back in those Packer days, he weighed 260 pounds.

Todays Alabama team would destroy those old Packer teams.

The Frig was a freak in the 80's, how many 300 pounder on college teams today? Hell, lines that average over 300 pounds.

And, why mention George Blanda who never played in a 16 game season?

http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/B/BlanGe00.htm

Avante

11-23-2016, 04:17 PM

Can football survive if safety to the players is going to become a major factor? Yes, if ya box, ride a bull, NASCAR, MMA, become a cop, join the military you are putting yourself in danger. So fucking what. What ya live a boring ass...I gotta be safe....life?

I played in three HS alumni game, my last one I was 42 years old, fuck the fact I could have been killed.

Football cannot be played safe.

If you decide to play the game you know the risks, if you are real concerned with brain damage, then don't play the game. It really is just that simple.

I would never ride a bull, yep, scared to death. Would never go 200mph in any vehicle, yep....coward.

SpursforSix

11-23-2016, 04:21 PM

I played in three HS alumni game, my last one I was 42 years old, fuck the fact I could have been killed.

ah...in a perfect world...

but thanks for giving me a nice daydream

Avante

11-23-2016, 04:22 PM

ah...in a perfect world...

but thanks for giving me a nice daydream

As you continue to follow me around, why?

SpursforSix

11-23-2016, 04:31 PM

As you continue to follow me around, why?

to protect the kids

Avante

11-23-2016, 04:34 PM

to protect the kids

My God guy, are you really this fucking stupid?

SAILOR IN A BAR.......are you really this damn dumb?

Avante

11-23-2016, 04:37 PM

This will be the fifth season in a row where a black QB will rep the NFC in the SB.

SpursforSix

11-23-2016, 04:37 PM

SAILOR IN A BAR.......are you really this damn dumb?

was this her?

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/c3/2c/bc/c32cbcef4bb7d893c37acefdfb36aa0a.jpg

Avante

11-23-2016, 04:39 PM

I apologize for this retard guys, yep, he's that fucked up.

Hey retard, this is a football forum, ok dummy?

spurraider21

11-23-2016, 05:12 PM

yes, its dangerous, so its natural they'd play it safer with injuries

Avante

11-23-2016, 05:29 PM

yes, its dangerous, so its natural they'd play it safer with injuries

This...lets play Thursday game...makes no sense if safety is now a big deal.

The NFL is all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, ya can play all that safety stuff in HS/NCAA, it just doesn't work at the pro level. People pay big $$$$$ to see the stars, this....concussion protocol....is hurting the game.

Nobody has to play the game, if ya do then ya know the risks involved.

Funny watching you using George Blanda who never played a 16 game schedule, then.....12 game schedule...hahah~~~

spurraider21

11-23-2016, 05:38 PM

This...lets play Thursday game...makes no sense if safety is now a big deal.

The NFL is all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$, ya can play all that safety stuff in HS/NCAA, it just doesn't work at the pro level. People pay big $$$$$ to see the stars, this....concussion protocol....is hurting the game.

Nobody has to play the game, if ya do then ya know the risks involved.

Funny watching you using George Blanda who never played a 16 game schedule, then.....12 game schedule...hahah~~~blanda played into his mid-40's... look at his total games played. plus he was just a kicker for much of it

Avante

11-28-2016, 12:22 AM

No Nelson with the Cards or Goodwin with the Bills are not.....he's the fastest player in the NFL....where these announcers get that, ???????

The fastest player right now today is the Chiefs....Tyreek Hill.....trust me. Thr fastest Chiefs....

Stone Johnson WR200/Olympian
Jamaal Charles 10.18
Ken Thomas 10.0m
Joe Delaney 9.4 (ran on an NCAA winning 4x1 team at NWLa with NFLers to be Mark Duper and Victor Oatis on it)
Sammie Parker 10.17
Eddie Kennison NFL Fatest Man winner
Warren McVea 9.5

If he had stayed in track he had a very legit shot at making our Olympic 200m team, here he is winning the Big12 60.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jAltBCWZPLo

Funny watching that announcer who..."Goodwin the fastest player"...saying...."what's that a long jump?".....Goodwin an Olympic long jumper not a sprinter.

Just how fast is Hill? As a HS kid he ran the 200m in 20.14, the HS record...20.13.(at that time, now it's 20.09) And he was a RB in college.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSxKdR3o5E

The fastest college RB's ever.

1.Bob Hayes Florida A&M
2.Trindon Holliday LSU
3.Jeff Demps Florida
4.Curtis Dickey Texas A&M
5.Tyreek Hill Okla St/Western Alabama***
6.Stone Johnson Grambling***
7.Andy Hopkins SF Austin
8.O.J.Simpson USC
9.Joe Delaney NWLa***
10.Jamaal Charles Texas ***

*** Chiefs

Avante

11-28-2016, 12:17 PM

Neither GB or PHilly will make the cut so.....

If we give...

3 points road win
2 points home win
1 point road loss
0 points home loss

now add wins in last five games, it looks like this...

1.Cowboys 30
2.Raiders 29
3.Pats 28
4.Chiefs/Giants 26
6.Dolphins 24
7.Falcons/Lions 23
9.Seahawks/Broncos/Buc's 22

Now take how those teams listed above fared vs the others listed above.

Cowboys...0-1
Raiders....1-2
Pats...0-1
Chiefs....2-0
Giants...1-0
Dolphins...0-2
Falcons....3-1******
Lions...haven't played anyone.
Seahawks....3-1******
Broncos....1-3
Buc's....3-3*******************************************

Look at the Buc's, they have played.

at Falcons..won
Broncos
Raiders
Falcons
at Chiefs....won
Seahawks...won

spurraider21

11-28-2016, 12:47 PM

Raiders are 2-2 against those listed teams. Wins against broncos and bucs

Avante

11-28-2016, 12:54 PM

Raiders are 2-2 against those listed teams. Wins against broncos and bucs

My bad.

The bottom line is how many stud teams have these teams faced. Easy to have a great record playing....Bears, Browns, Jags, Niners, etc.

Yes the Cowboys can play but who have they played?

Keeping it real.

Raiders at 9-2

beat Bills....time zone, ANOTHER home game Raiders.
lose at Chiefs
could lose at Chargers
beat Colts
lose at Broncos....probably.

Very realistic to see a...12-4.

What if the Chargers had all their players? And they have played....

at Chiefs
at Raiders
at Falcons
at Broncos
Dolphins

Only wimp on their schedule....Jags.

Avante

11-28-2016, 01:54 PM

What went a little unnoticed was the return of Deion Lewis to the Pats, he is that....make ya miss....they were lacking. He will make a difference.

Collinsworth said..."he could play RB"....about Tyreek Hill. Like Bob Hayes Hill was a college RB. If I'm the Chiefs I get him and DeAnthony Thomas out there together as much as possible.

What are the odds of Thomas and Bennett coming back for Seattle and the Seahawks looking great coming off a loss back at home vs a Panthers team totally out of routine hanging on the west coast?

Falcons at home AGAIN vs the Chiefs on the road AGAIN, this just ain't right.

What's with the Buc's?

Avante

11-29-2016, 01:14 PM

What a great example of my....slow down.

It was....what's wrong with Aaron Rodgers? Today it's.....wow, isn't he great? Hahahahahhaha!!!!

People, this game to game, week to week thng is fucking stupid, ok? All these guys are up and down over a 17 week season, ok? GREAT game, good game, they sucked.....we will see it all.....ok? OK???

Last season it was....what a big fucking mistake drafting Melvin Gordon that high, he's sucking....ha~~~ Now look at him. And we have seen that same thing TONS of times. Hell, HOF players have been dumped by teams only to be picked up by somebody else, then a HOF career.

Give things some fucking time, ok?

Look at the Dolphins, they were 1-4, now they have won six in a row. And it goes on and on.....

My all time favorite.

It's week four in 2014, the Pats get crushed in KC 41-14, and it's.....BRADY IS DONE...THE PATS SUCK....hahahaha~~~~ As we know they ended up....12-4 and won the SB.

Oh yeah, the Chiefs didn't even make the playoffs at 9-7. And lost the very next week to my Niners. The Pats won their next seven games.

Avante

12-04-2016, 02:52 AM

Sorry about John Smith guys, as you all can see the guy is retarded and just a freak in hiding. He's like Blake, Clambake and a few others, he has a real bad case of Avanteist. I make a HUGE impact on them as ya can see.

Poor little guys.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Seattle coming off a loss at home in a nationally televised night game, what chance do the Panthers have in this "spot" ?

Chiefs on the road AGAIN vs the Falcons at home AGAIN, why do they schedule these?

Like I mentioned awhile back, Chiefs Tyreek Hill is something special. He is the only current player in the NFL with that legit "world class speed" we hear about that 99% really don't have like the Ted Ginn's, Mike Wallace, etc.

Remember this name Tairik Cohen, chek him out. He's now at Grambling, will be in the NFL sooon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmlJEF-YAls

Now before ya...."rinky dink conference, subpar athletes"....remember that...

Hall of Famers

Jerry Rice
Walter Payton
Willie Brown
Buck Buchanon
Charlie Joiner
Aeneas Williams
Lem Barney
John Stallworth
Willie Davis

all played in the SWAC as did...

Steve McNair
Harold Carmichael
Paul "Tank" Younger
Doug Williams
Willie Ellison
Michael Strahan
Harold Jackson
....and a couple 100 more NFLers.

Avante

12-05-2016, 01:20 AM

If ever threre was a ....sure thing....it was tonight with Seattle back at home in a nationally televised game coming off a loss vs a team as weak as these Panthers are.

So tired of Cam Newton, the guy is a jerk and a baby. His body language sucks.

In the RW era the Seahawks are 17-3 in those last five games of a season. They are7-3 in the playoffs. So 24-6 from December 1.

Avante

12-05-2016, 03:17 AM

How many INTs/fumbles for Luck tonight, 2/3?

Frank Gore now a top 10 All Time Rusher.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This bit about trying to play a violent game safely is becoming a bummer. Concussion protocol.....what? Football is about hitting, hitting as hard as ya can.

Avante

12-06-2016, 04:35 PM

Can the Seahawks win in Dallas without Thomas, hmmmm?

Can anyone beat the Pats in Foxboro in Jan, hmmmmm?

What chance would a rookie QB stand vs Brady in the biggie?

Avante

12-08-2016, 10:31 PM

Just how fast is Hill? As a HS kid he ran the 200m in 20.14, the HS record...20.13.(at that time, now it's 20.09) And he was a RB in college.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=blSxKdR3o5E

The fastest college RB's ever.

1.Bob Hayes Florida A&M
2.Trindon Holliday LSU
3.Jeff Demps Florida
4.Curtis Dickey Texas A&M
5.Tyreek Hill Okla St/Western Alabama***
6.Stone Johnson Grambling***
7.Andy Hopkins SF Austin
8.O.J.Simpson USC
9.Joe Delaney NWLa***
10.Jamaal Charles Texas ***

*** Chiefs

ZOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

chunticakes

12-08-2016, 11:13 PM

Can the Seahawks win in Dallas without Thomas, hmmmm?

Can anyone beat the Pats in Foxboro in Jan, hmmmmm?

What chance would a rookie QB stand vs Brady in the biggie?

No rookie QB has made it to the big dance Cricket.

Avante

12-09-2016, 12:13 AM

No rookie QB has made it to the big dance Cricket.

DON'T CALL ME CRICKET, GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

I guess that's what ya needed, hahahaha~~~~

I wish I had a buck for everytime I've seen a first in sports. Even I won't try and list them all and I love lists.

chunticakes

12-09-2016, 12:17 AM

But that's what the boys call you, Cricket. Isn't that your nickname now?

Avante

12-09-2016, 12:22 AM

But that's what the boys call you, Cricket. Isn't that your nickname now?

Are you really down to this silliness little man? Come on guy.

Avante

12-09-2016, 01:19 AM

The Chiefs have it all to be honest.

Pass rushers
Great Coach
Realible QB
Game breaker in Hill
Great TE
Solid RB's
Good enought WR's

Nothing not to like.

spurraider21

12-09-2016, 01:24 AM

they just lost derrick johnson for the season (and possibly career) with an achilles. their defense notably played worse down the stretch with him out, particularly against the run

Avante

12-09-2016, 01:31 AM

they just lost derrick johnson for the season (and possibly career) with an achilles. their defense notably played worse down the stretch with him out, particularly against the run

Hey, I wanted the Raiders to win, just having fun knowing what Hill was going to do. Next time cool this silly...the curse..thing, ya should feel silly.

I'm no Chiefs fan, they just finds way to win and do have a lot of reasons to be considered a legit SB contender with or without Johnson. Everybody is hurting in December.

Like I said, next season is all about the Raiders as we will see, this season is just the start. Be happy to be in the playoffs.

Like I said, Carr was hurting and it's too bad. Why ya....:lmao...???

spurraider21

12-09-2016, 01:54 AM

Avante

12-09-2016, 02:03 AM

the only manner carr's injury affects him is that he's currently unable to take snaps from center.

his throwing accuracy and velocity had been fine in buffalo, and even after coming back from the locker room in carolina. he played poorly, no excuses. but the receivers weren't doing him any favors either. many drops, and cooper inexplicably stumbling when he got free for a deep ball

I saw the same thing Collinsworth did, remember him saying.....with this cold and that ball hitting that finger on the snap it's gotta hurt, it's gotta be bothering him.....?

It was real obvious the guy wasn't himself.

Don't put too much into this loss, the Raiders were missing too many players, on the road, short week vs a great home team. Oh yeah, and.....TYREEK HILL....:king

Avante

12-09-2016, 02:48 AM

Remember me talking up Terrance West? That was more about how he came from rinkydinky Towson, and could he make it in the NFL.

Well he is the starting RB for the Ravens and they play on MNF.

Rookies, please don't.....see see see he sucks....because in the FIRST QUARTER he's been stopped a few times,ok? Yep, slow down, relax and give it some time, like the big people do, ok?

Clipper Nation, there are actually 4 quarters in a football game, ok?

SpursforSix

12-09-2016, 09:56 AM

owww. you're hurting me. please stop.

Yep, slow down, relax and give it some time, like the big people do, ok?

benefactor

12-09-2016, 11:13 AM

chirp chirp

Avante

12-09-2016, 11:45 AM

chirp chirp

Then ya wonder why there was no way I was wasting any time on a loser like you.

GROW UP~~~~~~~~~~~

clambake

12-09-2016, 12:31 PM

Then ya wonder why there was no way I was wasting any time on a loser like you.

GROW UP~~~~~~~~~~~

actually, he exposed the fraud.

Avante

12-09-2016, 02:29 PM

I can't see the Seahawks with that lead in the division being able to match the intensity we should see from the Packers this Sunday. This is a must win for them while the Seahawks know they are already in the playoffs.

Packers win.

The classic home team in a must win situation vs a road team happy with where they are.

Avante

12-11-2016, 12:05 AM

I got curious about how did I finish up ATS in 2014
Bottom line.

67-49 plus $2170

Right here in living color.

That from post #918 in the Avante Betting Tracker Thread.

I gotta find somewhere to play before the playoffs.

This is spurraider all excited after I sucked in week one.

He has decided to hang 'em up this week after going 0-3. We will update this as the season goes on.

CURRENT AVANTE BETTING TRACKER: 0-3, -$330
But he was nowhere to be found at plus $2170, funny how that works. I went something like 4-0 in my $550 plays.

Avante

12-11-2016, 08:28 PM

Nailed another one, as we see in post #1244.

Wilson tied Hall of Famers

Johnny U
Warren Moon
Dan Fouts
Troy Aikman
Sonny Jurgenson
Fran Tarkenton
John Elway
Y.A.Tittle

With 5 picks in a game

Also on that list..Eli Manning, Joe Flacco, Kurt Warner, Drew Brees

One short of the 6 by Peyton Manning, Joe Namath, Terry Bradshaw

Brett Favre had 7

While I the knew the Packers had this, as I mentioned above, I didn't see this coming. Classic one team in a must win at home with the other already in the playoffs.

I pity the Rams.