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ChumpDumper
12-22-2015, 01:12 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2015/08/24/lamarcus-aldridges-move-san-antonio-got-unlikely-assist/32211597/I actually think that Pop would be fine if LMA shot more while he is out there. Diaw was clearly rewarded for his aggression out there. If you're into believing in mind games, maybe one played out last night.
Regardless, Duncan isn't going to be here forever. LMA should enjoy him while he can.
DAF86
12-22-2015, 01:40 PM
I actually think that Pop would be fine if LMA shot more while he is out there. Diaw was clearly rewarded for his aggression out there. If you're into believing in mind games, maybe one played out last night.
Regardless, Duncan isn't going to be here forever. LMA should enjoy him while he can.
Sometimes I think the same thing. I just hope LMA is the type of person that gets motivated and learns by this type of mind games instead of getting discouraged and check out.
ChumpDumper
12-22-2015, 01:56 PM
Well, if he's unhappy being on this team now I haven't seen any signs of it.
BackHome
12-22-2015, 02:11 PM
I just hope he can come through when it's clutch time. Will he shoot when the game is on th me line or pass the ball?
ceperez
12-22-2015, 02:25 PM
The NBA isn't an efficient market like the stock market, so you can't really get the player for the right price. LMA is the highest paid player in the Spurs, but he's obviously not the best and is obviously not worth 10 Manu Ginobilis.
Spurs 4 The Win
12-22-2015, 02:25 PM
Sometimes I think the same thing. I just hope LMA is the type of person that gets motivated and learns by this type of mind games instead of getting discouraged and check out.
Lamarcus wants to win a title, he will not check out, we need him to be able to win it all, he has already had a major positive impact, we have won 3 more games we would've lost without him and he allows us to stay well rested
BillMc
12-22-2015, 02:34 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2015/08/24/lamarcus-aldridges-move-san-antonio-got-unlikely-assist/32211597/
LaMarcus has said since then he doesn't care too much about scoring, he's happy to lean on his defense and get wins. And his defense has been far better than advertised. It might be lip service or it might be Spurs culture getting to him, or it might be our gaudy record, be he seems ok with the current situation. And how can he bitch when Timmy is sacrificing so much of his own point production for the greater good.
One wonders if we will have these "was LaMarcus worth it" discussions every time he scores less than 20 in a game (win or lose).
What an awful thread :lol
Kawhitstorm
12-22-2015, 04:23 PM
What an awful thread :lol
If you didn't believe in HarlemHeat then double-up:lol
exstatic
12-22-2015, 04:37 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/spurs/2015/08/24/lamarcus-aldridges-move-san-antonio-got-unlikely-assist/32211597/
That was before his visit to Miami. Many have credited Riley with convincing him to take a role by using Bosh as an example of a player who sacrificed numbers to go to four Finals and win two. Thanks, Riles.
HarlemHeat37
12-22-2015, 05:04 PM
If you didn't believe in HarlemHeat then double-up:lol
If it ends up as a bad take, it'll just be a bad take, it happens, as rare as it is, tbh:lol..
SpursIndonesia
12-22-2015, 05:36 PM
Sometimes I think the same thing. I just hope LMA is the type of person that gets motivated and learns by this type of mind games instead of getting discouraged and check out.
If there is any indication of that, even the slightest, i think the team leaders will have some "chit chat" with him, personally. Especially captain West, he will straighten him out, nobody fuck up with his championship quest this season. Win it all the way or bust.
http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/nba/pacers/2015/12/21/david-west-didnt-want-roll-dice-another-year-indiana/77713036/
SAGirl
12-22-2015, 06:03 PM
. I think improvement next year is going to have to come from within, as I don't expect the Spurs to have money to spend until the summer of 2017 when the cap increases to $108 million vs the $89 million expected for next summer.
Indeed I agree with this, the team has to develop internally Anderson, Simmons, Boban, and even Ray-who will likely be cheaper to retain than getting someone completely new unless you go the dleague route.
Even if you have them in small roles initially, you have to hope they can help out bc obtaining comparable value from outside is very likely to be overpriced with the market explosion and you always wonder whether the free agent you get will pan out (some reject from another team like Daye or Ayers, guys with very limited potential - there is a reason they were cheap.) Whereas home grown and developed talent will fit in seamlessly to what Pop wants and get better with experience. The best guys in our most recent past bench, save Marco and Boris were developed this way.
We can maybe get 1 guy who Pop would prefer to be a vet. Maybe we get D.West back, Rasual, Bonner? Combined with the old guys we hope come back makes for a very old team. We have to grow our young guys.
DAF86
12-22-2015, 06:51 PM
That was before his visit to Miami. Many have credited Riley with convincing him to take a role by using Bosh as an example of a player who sacrificed numbers to go to four Finals and win two. Thanks, Riles.
No, it wasn't. That was an interview after signing with the Spurs, which obviously happened after the Riley meeting. I also recall an article that said that LMA expressed this concern about touches to Udoka and Udoka said that the Spurs wanted him to be "the guy" and take many shots. I can't find the link now but I read it here somewhere.
tonight...you
12-22-2015, 07:02 PM
No, it wasn't. That was an interview after signing with the Spurs, which obviously happened after the Riley meeting. I also recall an article that said that LMA expressed this concern about touches to Udoka and Udoka said that the Spurs wanted him to be "the guy" and take many shots. I can't find the link now but I read it here somewhere.
I read that also. It was an article about how Ime was crucial in landing Aldridge.
Honestly his attitude will be attached to wins. If the team is winning and looking like a contender- he's going to be happy.
If they start losing with any regularity and he's not being leaned on...
His smile will hit the pile real fast.
Right now though I"m sure he doesn't want to rock the boat while they are looking like the only team in position to unseat the champs so far and even though he's not scoring up to his previous averages- he still feels useful in these wins.
BG_Spurs_Fan
12-23-2015, 04:05 AM
No, it wasn't. That was an interview after signing with the Spurs, which obviously happened after the Riley meeting. I also recall an article that said that LMA expressed this concern about touches to Udoka and Udoka said that the Spurs wanted him to be "the guy" and take many shots. I can't find the link now but I read it here somewhere.
Well winning cures everything. He's said different things lately.
The NBA isn't an efficient market like the stock market, so you can't really get the player for the right price. LMA is the highest paid player in the Spurs, but he's obviously not the best and is obviously not worth 10 Manu Ginobilis.
Max salaries and the cap cause these inefficiencies. Players like Lebron, the two Thunderettes, Kawhi, CP3/Blake, etc. are worth far more than the max salaries they're being paid (Curry isn't even on one yet). LMA, despite being the highest paid Spur, also falls into the same camp. Yes, it's a lot of money but will be considerably less when the cap jumps and there is a huge set of players below his talent level getting paid the max or close to it.
Using your stock market example, it would be like putting a cap on the price of every stock regardless of the value you'd get out of it.
exstatic
12-23-2015, 09:47 AM
No, it wasn't. That was an interview after signing with the Spurs, which obviously happened after the Riley meeting. I also recall an article that said that LMA expressed this concern about touches to Udoka and Udoka said that the Spurs wanted him to be "the guy" and take many shots. I can't find the link now but I read it here somewhere.
The INTERVIEW was after he signed, but the conversation was during the recruiting process. Here's what I was talking about:
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/11/13/9729324/lamarcus-aldridge-free-agency-spurs-heat-pat-riley
DAF86
12-23-2015, 11:18 AM
The INTERVIEW was after he signed, but the conversation was during the recruiting process. Here's what I was talking about:
http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/11/13/9729324/lamarcus-aldridge-free-agency-spurs-heat-pat-riley
Well, if he still repeats that "I like scoring" part in the interview after he signed it means that he still thinks that way, tbh.
exstatic
12-23-2015, 11:45 AM
Well, if he still repeats that "I like scoring" part in the interview after he signed it means that he still thinks that way, tbh.
Everything that was quoted in that article was from the recruiting timeframe, and to say that he still feels that way is a stretch. He was just giving a window into his thoughts during that time.
If you watch the games, he's standing right by the tunnel with Timmy most nights high fiving and greeting players as they leave the floor. If he were angry about his lower scoring, it would show. I think he know that this is a learning and adjustment period, and that when Tim and Manu leave, his scoring will pop right back up, and he will already be comfortable in the system.
SequSpur
12-23-2015, 11:50 AM
this is a stupid topic... spurs are off to the best start in history df.
DAF86
12-23-2015, 12:08 PM
Everything that was quoted in that article was from the recruiting timeframe, and to say that he still feels that way is a stretch. He was just giving a window into his thoughts during that time.
If you watch the games, he's standing right by the tunnel with Timmy most nights high fiving and greeting players as they leave the floor. If he were angry about his lower scoring, it would show. I think he know that this is a learning and adjustment period, and that when Tim and Manu leave, his scoring will pop right back up, and he will already be comfortable in the system.
I'm not saying LMA isn't doing all the right things. He won't ever say anything out of place because of all the high profile folks we have in this team and specially because of all the winning that's happening, but deep down I'm sure he would like to be scoring more or, at the very least, not spend the last 15 minutes of a close game in the bench. I'm just saying it would be nice to keep him as happy and comfortable as possible with the decision he made of joining this team.
Where's chinook ? :lol wonder where all his danny green is better/more valuable than Leonard posts/threads are these days. Danny is being exposed for what he really is. A system player where sometimes its good and sometimes its bad. He's not good enough to make good out of any situation he's put in, hence he didn't leave. He's probably still worth the $ to the Spurs just because of the corporate knowledge he has and with the Spurs being in win-now mode but :lmao at other teams offering him 12+M/yr. And :lol at chinook
Saying all that, Danny starts to hit some threes and he's fine.
ChumpDumper
12-23-2015, 12:27 PM
I'm not saying LMA isn't doing all the right things. He won't ever say anything out of place because of all the high profile folks we have in this team and specially because of all the winning that's happening, but deep down I'm sure he would like to be scoring more or, at the very least, not spend the last 15 minutes of a close game in the bench. I'm just saying it would be nice to keep him as happy and comfortable as possible with the decision he made of joining this team.I think all the winning will be more attractive to him tbh.
spursistan
12-23-2015, 12:37 PM
I'm not saying LMA isn't doing all the right things. He won't ever say anything out of place because of all the high profile folks we have in this team and specially because of all the winning that's happening, but deep down I'm sure he would like to be scoring more or, at the very least, not spend the last 15 minutes of a close game in the bench. I'm just saying it would be nice to keep him as happy and comfortable as possible with the decision he made of joining this team.
I think winning willl take care of that and will get him more accepting on the inside..he is is in similar boat of Bosh in his first year with the Heatles..A career volume scorer, CB had only 3 30-point games and 31 20-point games all season long (ended up averaging 18.7 in 77 games played)..LMA stands at 0 and 7 in those categories..Obviously our team is deeper than that Heat team and Pop is more of minute watcher than Spo, but with Timmy likely to start racking up more DNP late in the season, i expect Aldridge to get close to Chris Bosh numbers, maybe 25 20-point games and 1 or two 30 point game as he gets acclimated more with our offense..
DAF86
12-23-2015, 01:58 PM
I think all the winning will be more attractive to him tbh.
I don't know how attractive it will be to him if the team wins but he stays on the bench in crunch time in important games, tbh. And with more teams selecting to go small in crunch time situations having to choose between Aldridge and Tim to close out games is something that will irremediably happen.
ChumpDumper
12-23-2015, 03:51 PM
You are free to worry about things that have yet to happen.
dabom
12-23-2015, 03:52 PM
Where's chinook ? :lol wonder where all his danny green is better/more valuable than Leonard posts/threads are these days. Danny is being exposed for what he really is. A system player where sometimes its good and sometimes its bad. He's not good enough to make good out of any situation he's put in, hence he didn't leave. He's probably still worth the $ to the Spurs just because of the corporate knowledge he has and with the Spurs being in win-now mode but :lmao at other teams offering him 12+M/yr. And :lol at chinook
Saying all that, Danny starts to hit some threes and he's fine.
Surely chinook never said Green was ever better than Kawhi right? :lmao
dbreiden83080
12-23-2015, 04:04 PM
24-5
Yes a terrible signing..
DAF86
12-23-2015, 06:57 PM
You are free to worry about things that have yet to happen.
Was already doing it but thanks for the reassurance that I am indeed free to worry about things that have yet to happen. :tu
ChumpDumper
12-23-2015, 07:08 PM
extremely underwhelminglol
dbreiden83080
12-24-2015, 07:31 AM
:lol nobody said it was a terrible signing, nobody said anything about Splitter..I was and am 100% in favor of signing Aldridge, despite not being a fan of his game..people are reading the thread title and forming that conclusion..
The question is whether changing the system was worth it for a player that the Spurs have treated like a glorified role player(Aldridge), so far, and potentially at the expense of Green, when you just signed both Aldridge and Green to long-term deals.. it's a long-term question just as much as a question for this year..
Why don't you focus on what is happening now. Tim Duncan is likely in his final year and so is Manu. The Spurs won't be winning another title or likely come close for many years to come after this one..
houston spurs fan
12-24-2015, 09:49 AM
:lol nobody said it was a terrible signing, nobody said anything about Splitter..I was and am 100% in favor of signing Aldridge, despite not being a fan of his game..people are reading the thread title and forming that conclusion..
The question is whether changing the system was worth it for a player that the Spurs have treated like a glorified role player(Aldridge), so far, and potentially at the expense of Green, when you just signed both Aldridge and Green to long-term deals.. it's a long-term question just as much as a question for this year..
Backpedalling off a terrible thread.
BSfromTX
12-24-2015, 10:17 AM
Yes, worth it. Having LMA has taken a ton of pressure off the "big three".. Without him, yes we would still be winning games, but at the expense of our older players. Duncan and manu are coasting so far this season because of Aldridge.. Come playoffs, we will see another level of intensity from those two... So yes, the signing IMO is paying huge dividends and will more so come playoff time
BSfromTX
12-24-2015, 10:19 AM
Not to mention, LMA will certainly get better and become more critical in future
BG_Spurs_Fan
12-24-2015, 11:26 AM
Backpedalling off a terrible thread.
Smart thing to do.
There are troll accounts for sticking with a terrible idea and digging deeper.
AFMadison
12-24-2015, 11:28 AM
Was this the death of Harlem?
SpursBig3s
12-24-2015, 01:28 PM
This thread sucks so bad. Obviously Aldridge was worth it. You actually think that by standing pat this past offseason or adding a role player, etc. would have pushed us over the top of GS, Cleveland, etc?? With a often gimpy splitter, a year older manu and Timmy? GTFO here we have no shot at the title without Aldridge :lol
Mr Bones
12-24-2015, 01:29 PM
Was this the death of Harlem?
Jesus, I hope so. He always relies on that stchick where he gives a player a backhanded compliment or insinuates some shortcoming, and then when he's proven wrong, responds with "I actually like him tbh:lol.. I never said I didn't like him.. you vanilla player fans are just reading into it imho:lol"
LaMarcus Bryant
12-24-2015, 02:49 PM
Jesus, I hope so. He always relies on that stchick where he gives a player a backhanded compliment or insinuates some shortcoming, and then when he's proven wrong, responds with "I actually like him tbh:lol.. I never said I didn't like him.. you vanilla player fans are just reading into it imho:lol"
Lol
spurraider21
12-24-2015, 03:14 PM
Jesus, I hope so. He always relies on that stchick where he gives a player a backhanded compliment or insinuates some shortcoming, and then when he's proven wrong, responds with
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/2817947/billbored.gif
fify
Harlem trying to wordsmith his way out of this horrible take :lol
HarlemHeat37
12-24-2015, 03:34 PM
Jesus, I hope so. He always relies on that stchick where he gives a player a backhanded compliment or insinuates some shortcoming, and then when he's proven wrong, responds with "I actually like him tbh:lol.. I never said I didn't like him.. you vanilla player fans are just reading into it imho:lol"
Link? You're using the example of Parker for your entire basis, which is strange, since I was 100% correct with that take, while most of you idiots were in denial..
I don't know if I've ever been proven wrong here, tbh:lol
tholdren
12-24-2015, 03:35 PM
:lol nobody said it was a terrible signing, nobody said anything about Splitter..I was and am 100% in favor of signing Aldridge, despite not being a fan of his game..people are reading the thread title and forming that conclusion..
The question is whether changing the system was worth it for a player that the Spurs have treated like a glorified role player(Aldridge), so far, and potentially at the expense of Green, when you just signed both Aldridge and Green to long-term deals.. it's a long-term question just as much as a question for this year..
"changing the system" go away
HarlemHeat37
12-24-2015, 03:35 PM
Harlem trying to wordsmith his way out of this horrible take :lol
It isn't a horrible take, at least not yet..Aldridge has been the 5th best player on the team, so far, and his real value will be tested in the playoffs..
tholdren
12-24-2015, 03:37 PM
It isn't a horrible take, at least not yet..Aldridge has been the 5th best player on the team, so far, and his real value will be tested in the playoffs..
it is still terrible even after trying to justify 20 times
T Park
12-24-2015, 03:47 PM
Why don't you focus on what is happening now. Tim Duncan is likely in his final year and so is Manu. The Spurs won't be winning another title or likely come close for many years to come after this one..
with Leonard's ascension, LMA added in, theres no reason they cant be championship contenders for a few more years even without Duncan
T Park
12-24-2015, 03:59 PM
Duncan is still the 2nd best player on the team, pretty easily, I don't see how they could replace him as easily as you're implying, tbh..
ok sure
ducks
12-24-2015, 04:03 PM
People said David was not replaceable then Duncan came
HarlemHeat37
12-24-2015, 04:14 PM
In all honesty, I hope Aldridge is 100% worth it in the playoffs and doesn't have an ugly decline for the length of his contract..he has been the 5th best player on the team, but it's alright, because they have a dominant record..at some point, he will need to become a star again, though..
I hope this isn't deja vu, tbh..last year, I was the first poster that saw the onset of Parker's decline and made several threads about it in late November/early December(the media didn't begin acknowledging his decline until mid-January)..I was viciously attacked and insulted by most of the forum(4 of the most vocal and sensitive posters about it posted on the last page in this thread, btw:lol), to the extent of receiving death threats in my PMs..Apo received even more brutality than I did, although he probably took the threads too far, to be fair:lol..
Unfortunately, I was 100% correct about Parker, last year, and most of the forum turned on him in April, 5 months after I began posting about it..hopefully Aldridge doesn't suffer the same fate, as the weight gain is worrisome, just like TP, last season..
DeadlyDynasty
12-24-2015, 04:23 PM
He will defer in the playoffs
SoonerSpur512
12-24-2015, 04:41 PM
In all honesty, I hope Aldridge is 100% worth it in the playoffs and doesn't have an ugly decline for the length of his contract..he has been the 5th best player on the team, but it's alright, because they have a dominant record..at some point, he will need to become a star again, though..
I hope this isn't deja vu, tbh..last year, I was the first poster that saw the onset of Parker's decline and made several threads about it in late November/early December(the media didn't begin acknowledging his decline until mid-January)..I was viciously attacked and insulted by most of the forum(4 of the most vocal and sensitive posters about it posted on the last page in this thread, btw:lol), to the extent of receiving death threats in my PMs..Apo received even more brutality than I did, although he probably took the threads too far, to be fair:lol..
Unfortunately, I was 100% correct about Parker, last year, and most of the forum turned on him in April, 5 months after I began posting about it..hopefully Aldridge doesn't suffer the same fate, as the weight gain is worrisome, just like TP, last season..
5th best player on the team? Wtf?
FuzzyLumpkins
12-24-2015, 04:41 PM
In all honesty, I hope Aldridge is 100% worth it in the playoffs and doesn't have an ugly decline for the length of his contract..he has been the 5th best player on the team, but it's alright, because they have a dominant record..at some point, he will need to become a star again, though..
I hope this isn't deja vu, tbh..last year, I was the first poster that saw the onset of Parker's decline and made several threads about it in late November/early December(the media didn't begin acknowledging his decline until mid-January)..I was viciously attacked and insulted by most of the forum(4 of the most vocal and sensitive posters about it posted on the last page in this thread, btw:lol), to the extent of receiving death threats in my PMs..Apo received even more brutality than I did, although he probably took the threads too far, to be fair:lol..
Unfortunately, I was 100% correct about Parker, last year, and most of the forum turned on him in April, 5 months after I began posting about it..hopefully Aldridge doesn't suffer the same fate, as the weight gain is worrisome, just like TP, last season..
So when Parker got hurt with his hamstring you figured that his play would decline. What else? That working out helped build Kawhi's muscle mass or perhaps you could tell us that Timmy wears knee braces?
Youre like an insurance commercial taking credit for shit that is state and national law.
dabom
12-24-2015, 05:10 PM
Most of the top 5 posters knew porker needed a role change early last season. He is playing better because of it. If only pop would have just done that last year. :lmao
dabom
12-24-2015, 05:12 PM
Fucking shitty posters. I should roll call on all of them faggots again. :lmao
ChumpDumper
12-24-2015, 05:14 PM
lol HH PMed for help.
dabom
12-24-2015, 05:16 PM
Chinook take care of my light work. :lol
Kawhitstorm
12-24-2015, 05:28 PM
I hope this isn't deja vu, tbh..last year, I was the first poster that saw the onset of Parker's decline and made several threads about it in late November/early December(the media didn't begin acknowledging his decline until mid-January)..I was viciously attacked and insulted by most of the forum(4 of the most vocal and sensitive posters about it posted on the last page in this thread, btw:lol), to the extent of receiving death threats in my PMs..Apo received even more brutality than I did, although he probably took the threads too far, to be fair:lol.
I think Tony's decline became obvious in 2014 when he was being rested b/c of a "variety of maladies" along w/ the 2014 postseason (besides the Lillard matchup:lol) although not as steep. When Reggie Miller is point out that the "Spurs might win if Parker doesn't return" then it doesn't take a genius to figure it out.:lol
dabom
12-24-2015, 05:30 PM
You didn't know shit faggot. Talking in hindsight. :lmao
coachmac87
12-24-2015, 05:36 PM
Op is a faggot "tbh"
ChumpDumper
12-24-2015, 05:37 PM
I hope this isn't deja vu, tbh..last year, I was the first poster that saw the onset of Parker's decline and made several threads about it in late November/early December(the media didn't begin acknowledging his decline until mid-January)
He was great in the 4th, looks like he did last year in November/December, tbh..
Parker looked better last November, even without the 3s, against a much more difficult schedule than what the Spurs have currently faced(3rd easiest schedule in the NBA, so far)..he was easily getting to the rim and making his jump shots..
In a nutshell, embrace every possible narrative for yourself at some point. One of them is bound to be right.
Kawhitstorm
12-24-2015, 05:38 PM
Most of the top 5 posters knew porker needed a role change early last season. He is playing better because of it. If only pop would have just done that last year. :lmao
IKR, how could Pop have forgotten to feature Shitter just as much as LMA?:lmao
dabom
12-24-2015, 05:39 PM
:lol
HarlemHeat37
12-24-2015, 05:47 PM
So when Parker got hurt with his hamstring you figured that his play would decline. What else? That working out helped build Kawhi's muscle mass or perhaps you could tell us that Timmy wears knee braces?
Youre like an insurance commercial taking credit for shit that is state and national law.
:lol this was well before the alleged hamstring injury..
HarlemHeat37
12-24-2015, 05:48 PM
I think Tony's decline became obvious in 2014 when he was being rested b/c of a "variety of maladies" along w/ the 2014 postseason (besides the Lillard matchup:lol) although not as steep. When Reggie Miller is point out that the "Spurs might win if Parker doesn't return" then it doesn't take a genius to figure it out.:lol
You wouldn't know it if you read SpursTalk, tbh..I don't think you were here at the time, but 75% of the forum melted down over myself, apalisoc, dabom and Fkla saying Parker should change his role, should be benched, should lose weight, etc..it was ridiculous, asking for banning, claiming we aren't real Spurs fans, etc:lol..the same posters also had the audacity to bump my "Clippers in 7" thread after the Spurs took a 3-2 lead, busting their nut early, disgusting..
4 of the most sensitive and vocal posters about it have posted in the past 2 pages, I won't name them, though, they know:lol..
HarlemHeat37
12-24-2015, 05:53 PM
5th best player on the team? Wtf?
So far, this year:
1. Kawhi
2. Duncan
3. Parker
4. Ginobili
5. Aldridge
dabom
12-24-2015, 05:54 PM
You wouldn't know it if you read SpursTalk, tbh..I don't think you were here at the time, but 75% of the forum melted down over myself, apalisoc, dabom and Fkla saying Parker should change his role, should be benched, should lose weight, etc..it was ridiculous, asking for banning, claiming we aren't real Spurs fans, etc:lol..the same posters also had the audacity to bump my "Clippers in 7" thread after the Spurs took a 3-2 lead, busting their nut early, disgusting..
4 of the most sensitive and vocal posters about it have posted in the past 2 pages, I won't name them, though, they know:lol..
:lol
ceperez
12-24-2015, 06:05 PM
So far, this year:
1. Kawhi
2. Duncan
3. Parker
4. Ginobili
5. Aldridge
Hmmm... I think it is more like:
1. Kawhi
2. Parker
3. Aldridge
4. Duncan
5. Ginobili
Kawhitstorm
12-24-2015, 06:06 PM
So far, this year:
1. Kawhi
2. Duncan
3. Parker
4. Ginobili
5. Aldridge
D-West coming for that ass now that he's finishing strong at the rim since Josh Smith humiliated him:lol; LMA on the other hand has regressed the past 2 games after punking Blake.:downspin:
Kawhitstorm
12-24-2015, 06:11 PM
Hmmm... I think it is more like:
1. Kawhi
2. Parker
3. Aldridge
4. Duncan
5. Ginobili
If you go by actually earned Win-shares then that's how they stack up except Patty is above Manu b/c of minutes played. WS/48 has LMA ranked below Manu/Tim.
houston spurs fan
12-24-2015, 06:46 PM
So far, this year:
1. Kawhi
2. Duncan
3. Parker
4. Ginobili
5. Aldridge
Dude is desperate for attention. Say a bunch of stuff to get people riled up, make asenine threads and points, etc...just a contrarian tbh...
AFMadison
12-25-2015, 12:04 AM
Jesus, I hope so. He always relies on that stchick where he gives a player a backhanded compliment or insinuates some shortcoming, and then when he's proven wrong, responds with "I actually like him tbh:lol.. I never said I didn't like him.. you vanilla player fans are just reading into it imho:lol"
A few smileys and some (TBH, IMHO, or IMO's) and they think it all goes away, sad.
cutewizard
12-25-2015, 10:49 AM
Its Pop
then RC
then Messina
Mr Bones
12-25-2015, 09:02 PM
Link? You're using the example of Parker for your entire basis, which is strange, since I was 100% correct with that take, while most of you idiots were in denial..
You're a very confused contrarian... I wasn't referring to Parker at all. You've got that Parker-on-the-brain obsession.
I was referring to your schtick of a slew of backhanded compliments mixed with put downs-- in this case with Aldridge, he's "fat" /his post game is "atrocious"/ he's "underwhelming" / you never liked his game/ he's apathetic, but then when anyone responds to your "Was Aldridge worth it thb" thread, you say you are 100% in favor of the signing and it's a "no-brainer." Has nothing to do with Parker at all. It's entirely about your schtick.
HarlemHeat37
12-25-2015, 11:28 PM
Dude is desperate for attention. Say a bunch of stuff to get people riled up, make asenine threads and points, etc...just a contrarian tbh...
:lol
5th on the team in PER, 52% True Shooting, 14th on the team in BPM, poor ranking in VORP..his only decent numbers are in counting-based stats that are biased towards his style(like WS)..
ElNono
12-25-2015, 11:34 PM
I though he was out worked tonight by Jones and Capella on the boards. Physicality seem to bother him somewhat (IIRC same thing against the Bulls). It's not all bad though, I thought he's been decent defending the P&R, and against most frontcourts he rebounds fine.
Wish he would post up more than settling for the pump fake/jumper
Capt Bringdown
12-25-2015, 11:37 PM
Wish he would post up more than settling for the pump fake/jumper
With Tim aging rapidly before our eyes this season & LMA playing soft, Diaw is currently our best post player.
Not a good sign going forward.
loveforthegame
12-25-2015, 11:39 PM
One trend I don't like is trying to draw the foul crap. The one where he's giving 3-4 pump fakes while 15 feet out and expecting the refs to bail him out.
Johnny RIngo
12-25-2015, 11:58 PM
With Tim aging rapidly before our eyes this season & LMA playing soft, Diaw is currently our best post player.
Not a good sign going forward.
Never understood why they heavily emphasized Duncan passing the torch to Aldridge in the summer. It's given Spurs fans unrealistic expectations of LMA's abilities. LMA has always been soft(frequently shied away from contact even in Portland). His playoff numbers are also pretty bad. He doesn't have the ability to raise his game in the post-season like prime Duncan/Manu.
apalisoc_9
12-26-2015, 12:01 AM
LMA is a soft dude. Like Harlem said, hes probably the 4th or 5th best player in the team.
HarlemHeat37
12-26-2015, 12:02 AM
LMA is a soft dude. Like Harlem said, hes probably the 4th or 5th best player in the team.
He's the 2nd best player on the team, based on ability, tbh..he has clearly been the 5th best, based on this season, though(although Ginobili and Duncan have been inconsistent after their hot starts..
One trend I don't like is trying to draw the foul crap. The one where he's giving 3-4 pump fakes while 15 feet out and expecting the refs to bail him out.
I noticed that too. The vast majority of the time it's a no call with him bricking the shot badly.
ceperez
12-26-2015, 06:11 AM
He's the 2nd best player on the team, based on ability, tbh..he has clearly been the 5th best, based on this season, though(although Ginobili and Duncan have been inconsistent after their hot starts..
He's got the talent, but he doesn't have the attitude. It's like the Spurs have a softer Robert Horry on the court that can't take 3 point shots. Totally worthless for the money.
dabom
12-26-2015, 06:27 AM
He's got the talent, but he doesn't have the attitude. It's like the Spurs have a softer Robert Horry on the court that can't take 3 point shots. Totally worthless for the money.
Are you a dumbass? Just asking.
ceperez
12-26-2015, 06:41 AM
Are you a dumbass? Just asking.
Who was guarding LMA most of the game? Clint Capella? Who the hell is Clint Capella?
dabom
12-26-2015, 06:50 AM
Who was guarding LMA most of the game? Clint Capella? Who the hell is Clint Capella?
WTF does that matter when you just said the bolded. :lmao
ceperez
12-26-2015, 06:56 AM
WTF does that matter when you just said the bolded. :lmao
Let me spell it out to you.... you don't pay someone $20/m per year if he can't beat a sophomore player picked #25 and earning 1/10th your current salary.
dabom
12-26-2015, 06:57 AM
Let me spell it out to you.... you don't pay someone $20/m per year if he can't beat a sophomore player picked #25 and earning 1/10th your current salary.
He wasn't even the reason we lost. :lmao
ceperez
12-26-2015, 07:11 AM
He wasn't even the reason we lost. :lmao
I guess making just 6 points in the entire second half is good enough for you. :bobo can't fault you for having low standards.
dabom
12-26-2015, 07:16 AM
I guess making just 6 points in the entire second half is good enough for you. :bobo can't fault you for having low standards.
I watch the full games faggot. :lmao
dabom
12-26-2015, 07:19 AM
We lost when the second unit got shit on. While LMA was benched you stupid fuck. LMA was a top 3 player for the spurs dumbass. :lmao
ceperez
12-26-2015, 07:20 AM
I watch the full games faggot. :lmao
Like I said, can't fault you for having low standards. 6 points in 24 minutes of play with at least 2 of the points off a broken play?
Do you honestly think that's good enough for a max player who was brought in for his offense??? You must be wearing reality distortion glasses. :lmao
dabom
12-26-2015, 07:24 AM
Like I said, can't fault you for having low standards. 6 points in 24 minutes of play with at least 2 of the points off a broken play?
Do you honestly think that's good enough for a max player who was brought in for his offense??? You must be wearing reality distortion glasses. :lmao
Except he isn't out there 24 minutes in a half dumbass. :lmao
don't come at me with your weak shit faggot. :lmao
dabom
12-26-2015, 07:25 AM
And we're not even debating this game. You said he is totally worthless for the money. that includes all his other fucking games dumbass. :lmao
No one is going to argue that so you moved the argument. :lmao
dabom
12-26-2015, 07:27 AM
He's got the talent, but he doesn't have the attitude. It's like the Spurs have a softer Robert Horry on the court that can't take 3 point shots. Totally worthless for the money.
Are you a dumbass? Just asking.
:lmao
ceperez
12-26-2015, 07:38 AM
And we're not even debating this game. You said he is totally worthless for the money. that includes all his other fucking games dumbass. :lmao
No one is going to argue that so you moved the argument. :lmao
You want to go through the stats of players making $20m or more to see if Aldridge is worth it?
He wasn't worth it for the game against the Rockets.
He isn't worth it for 1/3rd the season that has been played.
Maybe he had some great game against the Sixers.... but that doesn't make him 'worth it'.
dabom
12-26-2015, 07:42 AM
You want to go through the stats of players making $20m or more to see if Aldridge is worth it?
He wasn't worth it for the game against the Rockets.
He isn't worth it for 1/3rd the season that has been played.
Maybe he had some great game against the Sixers.... but that doesn't make him 'worth it'.
Everyone in this fucking board says LMA is worth it. Even harlem you dumbass. The whole fucking Spurs FO says he is worth it. We are the 2nd best team with lots of room for improvement. The guy has been playing huge minutes in a completely new system and we are a great team statistically. LMA does more than just score. He also plays defense and he isn't an injured vagina. You are a huge faggot tbh. :lmao
ceperez
12-26-2015, 08:14 AM
Everyone in this fucking board says LMA is worth it. Even harlem you dumbass. The whole fucking Spurs FO says he is worth it. We are the 2nd best team with lots of room for improvement. The guy has been playing huge minutes in a completely new system and we are a great team statistically. LMA does more than just score. He also plays defense and he isn't an injured vagina. You are a huge faggot tbh. :lmao
Okay, you are a LMA fanboy.
The Spurs would be the 2nd best team even without LMA.
We all hope that he improves because the Spurs are paying him "mucho dinero".
Plays decent one-on-one defense, but his help defense is pathetic.
Also, speaking about his legendary mid-range shot... he misses half of them when completely open!!
Here for you reading pleasure: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/200746/tracking/shots/
40% catch and shoot
29.5% pullup jumpers
Spurs average field goal is 46%... in short, he is below average when he shoots from outside.
dabom
12-26-2015, 08:17 AM
Okay, you are a LMA fanboy.
The Spurs would be the 2nd best team even without LMA.
We all hope that he improves because the Spurs are paying him "mucho dinero".
Plays decent one-on-one defense, but his help defense is pathetic.
Also, speaking about his legendary mid-range shot... he misses half of them when completely open!!
Here for you reading pleasure: http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/200746/tracking/shots/
34.3% catch and shoot
22.3% pullups
PATHETIC -that is near 60% of his shots.
I'm not sure we would have the 2nd best record without LMA. We'd probably still have an injured splitter collecting DNPs-sore vagina.
you sure are a dumbass. :lmao
I'm going to stop picking on you though. Too easy. :lmao
ceperez
12-26-2015, 08:22 AM
I'm not sure we would have the 2nd best record without LMA. We'd probably still have an injured splitter collecting DNPs-sore vagina.
you sure are a dumbass. :lmao
I'm going to stop picking on you though. Too easy. :lmao
Ignore the numbers all you want fanboy, it's your delusion.
:bobo
dabom
12-26-2015, 08:25 AM
Ignore the numbers all you want fanboy, it's your delusion.
:bobo
You are the only dumbass in this whole board who would rather have tiago than LMA. :lmao
ceperez
12-26-2015, 10:34 AM
You are the only dumbass in this whole board who would rather have tiago than LMA. :lmao
Never said I wanted Tiago. Tiago is injury prone so also not worth tying Spurs success to.
I am just pointing out that LMA is *not* worth the money he's being paid. Just like Richard Jefferson. He's serviceable, but definitely not max money.
kaji157
12-26-2015, 12:56 PM
Aldridge is fine by me, he will be judged in the Playoffs.
This is his first season. Tiago looked like pussy in his first season here, Kawhi seemed one dimensional, both things are happening to LA right now. IŽll give him the benefit of the doubt.
He clearly has a good attitude.
Mr.Bottomtooth
12-26-2015, 02:10 PM
I just want to see him get rid of that shitty midrange pump fake that clearly doesn't get the whistle and actually take the shot.
I just want to see him get rid of that shitty midrange pump fake that clearly doesn't get the whistle and actually take the shot.
Agree. That is a bit annoying. Besides that I have been pretty pleased with his performance
tholdren
12-26-2015, 06:03 PM
I just want to see him get rid of that shitty midrange pump fake that clearly doesn't get the whistle and actually take the shot.
KL or LMA?
dabom
12-26-2015, 08:33 PM
KL or LMA?
I don't even know how you even think KL as one of the suggestions. :lmao
ceperez
12-27-2015, 06:28 AM
Another pedestrian game by LMA against the Denver Nuggets. LMA scored 12 points. The real tell of how bad he's playing... zero assists. Watch the game and you realize that guys are just shooting over him because of his passive help defense.
David West and Boban Marjanovic had a better game than LMA.
Trade the bum already!
spursistan
12-27-2015, 12:49 PM
Everyone in this fucking board says LMA is worth it. Even harlem you dumbass. The whole fucking Spurs FO says he is worth it. We are the 2nd best team with lots of room for improvement. The guy has been playing huge minutes in a completely new system and we are a great team statistically. LMA does more than just score. He also plays defense and he isn't an injured vagina. You are a huge faggot tbh. :lmao
Splitter (http://www.cbssports.com/fantasy/basketball/players/1231898/tiago-splitter/) left Saturday's game against the Knicks with right lower leg muscle soreness and is questionable to return, the Atlanta Journal Constitution's Chris Vivlamore reports
Tiago Splitter (leg) is questionable for Monday's game vs Indiana.
:lmao at folks who are still thinking we can contend in the conference if we stood pat..FO has earned the benefit of the doubt with its moves..IMO, they were ready to cut bait with Splitter even if we didn't get LMA in the summer ..Dude is just breaking down at fast rate and it would be a disservice and irrational to let Timmy to go out having to carry a load like in Clippers series..Aldridge may or may not pan out in the playoffs, but at least he will be there in flesh..
Mel_13
12-27-2015, 12:54 PM
:lmao at folks who are still thinking we can contend in the conference if we stood pat..FO has earned the benefit of the doubt with its moves..IMO, they were ready to cut bait with Splitter even if we didn't get LMA in the summer ..Dude is just breaking down at fast rate and it would be a disservice and irrational to let Timmy to go out having to carry a load like in Clippers series..Aldridge may or may not pan out in the playoffs, but at least he will be there in flesh..
Agree.
I didn't like the idea of salary dumping Splitter, but it has turned out to be an absolutely great move. That issue really has been settled. Splitter simply can't be relied upon to play a significant role on a contender.
ceperez
12-27-2015, 01:02 PM
:lmao at folks who are still thinking we can contend in the conference if we stood pat..FO has earned the benefit of the doubt with its moves..IMO, they were ready to cut bait with Splitter even if we didn't get LMA in the summer ..Dude is just breaking down at fast rate and it would be a disservice and irrational to let Timmy to go out having to carry a load like in Clippers series..Aldridge may or may not pan out in the playoffs, but at least he will be there in flesh..
Splitter deserved to be cut... no question... the injuries were problematic in Spurs playoff runs.
What you want to compare is Apples with Apples, that's David West vs. Aldridge. Both are is same situation in having to learn the system.
Go look at the numbers.
daslicer
12-27-2015, 01:10 PM
Statistically he's earning his money. He's averaging close to 16 points and 9 rebounds a game along with being one of the best defenders at his position this year. The type of numbers he's putting up will get you 20 mil per year in this league.
TheGreatYacht
01-03-2016, 12:20 AM
Bump.
Oh wait, is this only supposed to be bumped when he plays bad?
ChumpDumper
01-03-2016, 12:38 AM
lol "big man version of Iverson"
houston spurs fan
01-03-2016, 02:37 AM
Lol, Aldrige too fat. GTF outta here
SquawkinHawkBigCock
01-03-2016, 02:53 AM
Another pedestrian game by LMA against the Denver Nuggets. LMA scored 12 points. The real tell of how bad he's playing... zero assists. Watch the game and you realize that guys are just shooting over him because of his passive help defense.
David West and Boban Marjanovic had a better game than LMA.
Trade the bum already!
Faggot :lmao
Obstructed_View
01-03-2016, 02:58 AM
Dude comes to SA, plays great defense, meshes with the team, doesn't force his offense, doesn't bitch about his shots, helps the team to a 68-win pace, and people dislike him. rufl
SpursFan86
01-03-2016, 03:30 AM
Dude comes to SA, plays great defense, meshes with the team, doesn't force his offense, doesn't bitch about his shots, helps the team to a 68-win pace, and people dislike him. rufl
Not to mention there's been an obvious improvement from when he first got here. It'd be one thing if we were 2 months in and he still looked just as uncomfortable as he did at the start of the season...but that's clearly not the case. He was noticeably more efficient in December compared to November (55.4 vs. 49.5 TS%), and just watching him out there you can see he looks much better than he did to start the season.
Hopefully he'll continue to get more consistent as the season continues. This was the first time LMA had back-to-back 20-point games as a Spur.
cutewizard
01-03-2016, 05:32 AM
LaMarcus Aldridge is arguably the best power forward in the game, on Earth, right now!
cutewizard
01-03-2016, 05:33 AM
When LMA competes for Finals MVP, thou shall eat thy words, o naysayers, hahahahahahahahaha
cutewizard
01-03-2016, 05:34 AM
A Prophecy:
LaMarcus Aldridge shall compete for FInals MVP!
Mark my words!
I have spoken!:bobo
Mr Bones
01-03-2016, 05:59 AM
As for the subject in hand, i dont think Aldridge is worth it.
The current Spurs team is clearly fool's gold...
Please stop posting.
ceperez
01-03-2016, 06:49 AM
everyone will be thrilled that he's a much better player than Tiago Splitter (which he is).
however, he's not an all-star that fans may wish he should be.
cutewizard
01-03-2016, 06:50 AM
LaMarcusssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss sssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss A
best in the world
Agloco
01-03-2016, 11:23 AM
everyone will be thrilled that he's a much better player than Tiago Splitter (which he is).
however, he's not an all-star that fans may wish he should be.
:lol backtracking
SpurSwag
01-03-2016, 12:10 PM
Anyone complaining about lamarcus this year either came in with too high of expectations or just isn't watching the games and relying on box scores only tbh. I was never his biggest fan in Portland and while I was definitely happy to get him in the offseason, I wasn't completely sold on him being the right guy for this team. I'm happy to say I was dead wrong and that he has turned into one of my favorite players in the league. Guy plays great defense now, and I love his offensive game when he has it going. It's great to see how much he mixes it up between spot up shots, post ups towards the rim, and his patented fadeaway when he's got it going.
spurraider21
01-03-2016, 01:50 PM
face it guys he's fat. Might as well call him Jamarcus Aldridge
Cry Havoc
01-03-2016, 01:54 PM
Not to mention there's been an obvious improvement from when he first got here. It'd be one thing if we were 2 months in and he still looked just as uncomfortable as he did at the start of the season...but that's clearly not the case. He was noticeably more efficient in December compared to November (55.4 vs. 49.5 TS%), and just watching him out there you can see he looks much better than he did to start the season.
Hopefully he'll continue to get more consistent as the season continues. This was the first time LMA had back-to-back 20-point games as a Spur.
This is the best defensive Spurs team at this point in the season than I have seen since maybe 1999. It is absolutely fucking terrifying that LMA is still getting settled on offense and we are blowing teams out by 14 points per game with our starters sitting most of the 4th quarter many nights.
I thought prior to signing LMA that we might not have the horses to beat GSW in a series.
Now, I think our ceiling is unparalleled by any team in the league and few teams in League history.
This team is so fucking loaded. Diaw continuing to improve, Kawhi exploding to MVP levels, and LMA's versatility on both sides of the ball have elevated this team. We can throw so many looks at teams on both sides of the ball that it's just a nightmare. I'm absolutely hoping for a Dubs Spurs WCF, because I don't think they have solutions to the defensive looks we throw at them.
This is the best defensive Spurs team at this point in the season than I have seen since maybe 1999. It is absolutely fucking terrifying that LMA is still getting settled on offense and we are blowing teams out by 14 points per game with our starters sitting most of the 4th quarter many nights.
This kind of defense gives the Spurs the ability to "win ugly". Even on nights when they are playing terrible, and they just can't get a shot to fall, you look up late in the fourth quarter, and they are always in striking distance - all they need is a couple of stops, and a couple of shots to go in. They just grind teams down. The classic defensive Spurs teams (early Duncan years) used to be able to clamp down, and hold the other team scoreless for stretches, to put the game away.
Last night the Rockets scored 10 points in the first 3 1/2 minutes of the third quarter. After that, the Spurs held them to 7 points for the remainder of the quarter, and the game was all but over. Those prolonged dry spells just cut the heart out of opponents. Aldridge is buying into the system, and doing exactly what the Spurs need. His teammates trust that he'll be there to help, and he's getting it done. If the test is "Is he perfect?" then every player fails. But it's no coincidence the Spurs defensive numbers look so good, after he signed.
I don't know if anyone can shut down the Warriors' offense, but I like the Spurs chance better than any other team in the league.
skulls138
01-03-2016, 02:42 PM
I don't know if anyone can shut down the Warriors' offense, but I like the Spurs chance better than any other team in the league.With KL and Green and their ability to take on smaller, quicker players, we're built to do battle with the Warriors. On paper at least.
Having said that, much of the talk, like my sentence above says that we must change them, that they are the ones to worry about, but the way LMA is improving that may switch. I like our underdog role the way it is though, for now.
Mr Bones
01-03-2016, 03:10 PM
After a slow start, Aldridge's shooting percentages are at his career average and he was above his career average for the month of December. He has bought into the system, played the best D of his life, led the team in rebounding, & steadily gotten better on offense while also letting Kawhi shine and lead the team in FGA per game. Also, the Spurs are 29-6. If at this point anyone is still questioning whether he was "worth it," they're only being stubborn and/or provocative. If you add to the equation the fact that Boban at this point has a higher potential ceiling than either Splitter or Baynes, there's no question whatsoever that RC & Pop made the best possible choice. And, with the salary cap due to rise dramatically, Aldridge's contract won't even look like a max deal in 2017/18/19.
Aldridges defense aside, which has been better than expected, he reminds kinda reminds me of Diaw his first year here.
benefactor
01-03-2016, 07:06 PM
#ceperez
dabom
01-03-2016, 09:00 PM
After a slow start, Aldridge's shooting percentages are at his career average and he was above his career average for the month of December. He has bought into the system, played the best D of his life, led the team in rebounding, & steadily gotten better on offense while also letting Kawhi shine and lead the team in FGA per game. Also, the Spurs are 29-6. If at this point anyone is still questioning whether he was "worth it," they're only being stubborn and/or provocative. If you add to the equation the fact that Boban at this point has a higher potential ceiling than either Splitter or Baynes, there's no question whatsoever that RC & Pop made the best possible choice. And, with the salary cap due to rise dramatically, Aldridge's contract won't even look like a max deal in 2017/18/19.
Are you trying to say something important? No one is reading your shitty takes. :lmao
Are you trying to say something important? No one is reading your shitty takes. :lmao
No surprise you are in here trying to defend your Masters shit takes. Did they tell you to come in and defend them or are you just trying to gain their favor?
houston spurs fan
01-04-2016, 12:00 PM
Are you trying to say something important? No one is reading your shitty takes. :lmao
Pot calling the kettle again...
spurraider21
01-04-2016, 01:31 PM
#ceperez
Mr Bones
01-04-2016, 02:30 PM
Are you trying to say something important? No one is reading your shitty takes. :lmao
Thank you for commenting, and thank you for ending your comment with an emoji. I always look forward to your posts.
TheGreatYacht
01-11-2016, 09:53 PM
:lmao
ceperez
01-11-2016, 09:54 PM
Bump
He did well against one of the worst teams in the league. That is a start.
TheGreatYacht
01-11-2016, 09:57 PM
He did well against one of the worst teams in the league. That is a start.
And Kawhi struggled before garbage time
I've noticed Pop over the past few games getting Kawhi extra burn in garbage minutes probably to help him along with the AS game voting. Can't expect to get votes if he's not out there playing and being seen.
senorglory
01-11-2016, 10:01 PM
After a slow start, Aldridge's shooting percentages are at his career average and he was above his career average for the month of December. He has bought into the system, played the best D of his life, led the team in rebounding, & steadily gotten better on offense while also letting Kawhi shine and lead the team in FGA per game. Also, the Spurs are 29-6. If at this point anyone is still questioning whether he was "worth it," they're only being stubborn and/or provocative. If you add to the equation the fact that Boban at this point has a higher potential ceiling than either Splitter or Baynes, there's no question whatsoever that RC & Pop made the best possible choice. And, with the salary cap due to rise dramatically, Aldridge's contract won't even look like a max deal in 2017/18/19.
This is correct. The rest of you are fools.
cutewizard
01-11-2016, 10:02 PM
LaMarcus is the best power forward in the game, period.....
senorglory
01-11-2016, 10:03 PM
This kind of defense gives the Spurs the ability to "win ugly". Even on nights when they are playing terrible, and they just can't get a shot to fall, you look up late in the fourth quarter, and they are always in striking distance - all they need is a couple of stops, and a couple of shots to go in. They just grind teams down. The classic defensive Spurs teams (early Duncan years) used to be able to clamp down, and hold the other team scoreless for stretches, to put the game away.
Last night the Rockets scored 10 points in the first 3 1/2 minutes of the third quarter. After that, the Spurs held them to 7 points for the remainder of the quarter, and the game was all but over. Those prolonged dry spells just cut the heart out of opponents. Aldridge is buying into the system, and doing exactly what the Spurs need. His teammates trust that he'll be there to help, and he's getting it done. If the test is "Is he perfect?" then every player fails. But it's no coincidence the Spurs defensive numbers look so good, after he signed.
I don't know if anyone can shut down the Warriors' offense, but I like the Spurs chance better than any other team in the league.
This is also correct. The rest-rest of you are fools.
hater
01-11-2016, 10:03 PM
:lmao LMAlpha taking a shit on Spurstalk short bussers :lmao
Against the Warriors, keep feeding Aldridge in the post until they swap away from Draymond at the 5, or to get Draymond into foul trouble.
LMA in the post was a clinic tonight.
midnightpulp
01-11-2016, 10:22 PM
LMA was always worth it. Even if he flames out in the post-season (which is a probability), the Spurs HAD to roll the dice, given their history of never signing a high profile FA. By the time the Spurs would've developed/signed someone to complement Kawhi, Kawhi would probably be near 30.
Great signing, regardless of the outcome. It had to be done.
Pauleta14
01-11-2016, 10:52 PM
I've noticed Pop over the past few games getting Kawhi extra burn in garbage minutes probably to help him along with the AS game voting. Can't expect to get votes if he's not out there playing and being seen.
Maybe. But I think Pop really doesn't give a crap, it has more to do with Kawhi's "learning" process.
He puts him in situation where he can be the obvious go-to guy, to work on his playmaking, his leadership...
edit/ wrong thread^^?
wingster
01-11-2016, 10:54 PM
LMA was always worth it. Even if he flames out in the post-season (which is a probability), the Spurs HAD to roll the dice, given their history of never signing a high profile FA. By the time the Spurs would've developed/signed someone to complement Kawhi, Kawhi would probably be near 30.
Great signing, regardless of the outcome. It had to be done.
A probability, yes. Just not a likely one. Not this year at least.
Maybe. But I think Pop really doesn't give a crap, it has more to do with Kawhi's "learning" process.
He puts him in situation where he can be the obvious go-to guy, to work on his playmaking, his leadership...
edit/ wrong thread^^?
Nah he cares. He doesn't want to rob his guy of accolades. That's reserved for Tim.
SpursBig3s
01-12-2016, 02:53 AM
He did well against one of the worst teams in the league. That is a start.
He killed the Clippers against Griffin and Jordan. Just let it go. If you think we would have this record with Tiago Splitter, then you need to permaban yourself
ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 03:04 AM
ceperez now has to pray that LMA gets injured or something.
100%duncan
01-12-2016, 03:54 AM
Ceperez bro just take the L, its not worth to double down on this :lol
ceperez
01-12-2016, 05:33 AM
I've noticed Pop over the past few games getting Kawhi extra burn in garbage minutes probably to help him along with the AS game voting. Can't expect to get votes if he's not out there playing and being seen.
I think it is more about experimentation with a different kind of line up. He had a team on the court with the shortest player was Kawhi!
Anderson, Kawhi, Bonner, Diaw, West.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 05:36 AM
He killed the Clippers against Griffin and Jordan. Just let it go. If you think we would have this record with Tiago Splitter, then you need to permaban yourself
Never said Tiago Splitter was better. All I said was LMA was *not* playing up to expectation of his max contract. You can look at all the stats for this season that will confirm this.
He did play well against the Nets, but I would like to see that kind of play against the contenders. We shall see how that works out and of course, I would like him to prove me wrong.
midnightpulp
01-12-2016, 06:06 AM
Never said Tiago Splitter was better. All I said was LMA was playing up to expectation of his max contract. You can look at all the stats for this season that will confirm this.
He did play well against the Nets, but I would like to see that kind of play against the contenders. We shall see how that works out and of course, I would like him to prove me wrong.
With the exception of the first game of the season against OKC, his best games were against the best teams the Spurs played this year (Chicago, LAC, Boston, Houston x2).
OKC, however, might remain a tough matchup because Ibaka can step out and guard him on the perimeter and has the length and hops to bother his shot. Theoretically, no one on the Warriors or Cavs should be handle him without doubling (he's played well against Draymond the last 3 games. And he averages 21.6 on .495 against Love over his career) . We'll see.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 06:27 AM
With the exception of the first game of the season against OKC, his best games were against the best teams the Spurs played this year (Chicago, LAC, Boston, Houston x2).
OKC, however, might remain a tough matchup because Ibaka can step out and guard him on the perimeter and has the length and hops to bother his shot. Theoretically, no one on the Warriors or Cavs should be handle him without doubling (he's played well against Draymond the last 3 games. And he averages 21.6 on .495 against Love over his career) . We'll see.
You must be cherry picking, his best games were against Brooklyn and the 76ers. He had a good game against LAC and Houston. Otherwise, the number show that a vast majority of his games, he's been playing like a scrub.
Fortunately, this half of the season Spurs will play more good teams and I do *expect* that he shows up.
100%duncan
01-12-2016, 06:52 AM
Averaging double double almost while being a big factor on this historically defensive team is equal to being a scrub :lol not to mention the pressure he takes away from tim and tony in being main threats offensively
midnightpulp
01-12-2016, 06:59 AM
You must be cherry picking, his best games were against Brooklyn and the 76ers. He had a good game against LAC and Houston. Otherwise, the number show that a vast majority of his games, he's been playing like a scrub.
Fortunately, this half of the season Spurs will play more good teams and I do *expect* that he shows up.
What do you expect from him? He's having his best shooting season since '11-12, and his per 100 possessions stats are about at his historical average. And this is with him playing more defense in 37 games than he has over his entire career in Portland. Also, his WS/48 is the highest it's ever been. The stats actually don't show he's been playing like a scrub for the "majority of the games."
And his best game of the season (26 and 13 on 61% shooting) was against the Clippers.
I understand the skepticism, giving his inconsistent playoff history, but LMA has earned that contract this year thus far. He's basically the same offensive player he was in Portland (after an admitted rough 10 or so games start) but now with defense included.
Thomas82
01-12-2016, 07:47 AM
This is the best defensive Spurs team at this point in the season than I have seen since maybe 1999. It is absolutely fucking terrifying that LMA is still getting settled on offense and we are blowing teams out by 14 points per game with our starters sitting most of the 4th quarter many nights.
I thought prior to signing LMA that we might not have the horses to beat GSW in a series.
Now, I think our ceiling is unparalleled by any team in the league and few teams in League history.
This team is so fucking loaded. Diaw continuing to improve, Kawhi exploding to MVP levels, and LMA's versatility on both sides of the ball have elevated this team. We can throw so many looks at teams on both sides of the ball that it's just a nightmare. I'm absolutely hoping for a Dubs Spurs WCF, because I don't think they have solutions to the defensive looks we throw at them.
This kind of defense gives the Spurs the ability to "win ugly". Even on nights when they are playing terrible, and they just can't get a shot to fall, you look up late in the fourth quarter, and they are always in striking distance - all they need is a couple of stops, and a couple of shots to go in. They just grind teams down. The classic defensive Spurs teams (early Duncan years) used to be able to clamp down, and hold the other team scoreless for stretches, to put the game away.
Last night the Rockets scored 10 points in the first 3 1/2 minutes of the third quarter. After that, the Spurs held them to 7 points for the remainder of the quarter, and the game was all but over. Those prolonged dry spells just cut the heart out of opponents. Aldridge is buying into the system, and doing exactly what the Spurs need. His teammates trust that he'll be there to help, and he's getting it done. If the test is "Is he perfect?" then every player fails. But it's no coincidence the Spurs defensive numbers look so good, after he signed.
I don't know if anyone can shut down the Warriors' offense, but I like the Spurs chance better than any other team in the league.
Spot on!!
james evans
01-12-2016, 07:55 AM
Averaging double double almost while being a big factor on this historically defensive team is equal to being a scrub :lol not to mention the pressure he takes away from tim and tony in being main threats offensively
:lol People are stupid
james evans
01-12-2016, 07:58 AM
With the exception of the first game of the season against OKC, his best games were against the best teams the Spurs played this year (Chicago, LAC, Boston, Houston x2).
OKC, however, might remain a tough matchup because Ibaka can step out and guard him on the perimeter and has the length and hops to bother his shot. Theoretically, no one on the Warriors or Cavs should be handle him without doubling (he's played well against Draymond the last 3 games. And he averages 21.6 on .495 against Love over his career) . We'll see.
That's all we need him for. To pull Ibaka out the paint and let Leonard take Durant's non-defensive ass off the dribble all day. I said in the 2014 wcf that popovich should start Diaw instead of Splitter to pull Ibaka out of the paint and you guys laughed at me. When Popovich made that move, we won games 5 and 6 then the title.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 08:04 AM
What do you expect from him? He's having his best shooting season since '11-12, and his per 100 possessions stats are about at his historical average. And this is with him playing more defense in 37 games than he has over his entire career in Portland. Also, his WS/48 is the highest it's ever been. The stats actually don't show he's been playing like a scrub for the "majority of the games."
And his best game of the season (26 and 13 on 61% shooting) was against the Clippers.
I understand the skepticism, giving his inconsistent playoff history, but LMA has earned that contract this year thus far. He's basically the same offensive player he was in Portland (after an admitted rough 10 or so games start) but now with defense included.
I expect him to play like an all-star. I don't expect him to play will lesser efficiency than Enes Kanter.
You mean to tell me, average 44% FG percentage is all-star level play???
BG_Spurs_Fan
01-12-2016, 08:12 AM
I expect him to play like an all-star. I don't expect him to play will lesser efficiency than Enes Kanter.
You mean to tell me, average 44% FG percentage is all-star level play???
But he is playing very efficiently, his FG% is 49, which is his best mark since 2011. If you want him scoring more, then whose FGs should go down in order to accommodate him?
Also, is his defense or rebounding not elite?
BG_Spurs_Fan
01-12-2016, 08:13 AM
nvm
ceperez
01-12-2016, 08:18 AM
But he is playing very efficiently, his FG% is 49, which is his best mark since 2011. If you want him scoring more, then whose FGs should go down in order to accommodate him?
Also, is his defense or rebounding not elite?
His defense among PFs is at #28 in the league. Is that elite?
His offense among PFs is ranked at #48 in the league. Is that elite?
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/6
exstatic
01-12-2016, 08:29 AM
His defense among PFs is at #28 in the league. Is that elite?
His offense among PFs is ranked at #48 in the league. Is that elite?
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/6
We've already covered this one, dumbass. RPM is NOT a measure of current performance. Previous seasons are used, and skew the results.
For all forwards, based ONLY on this season. LMA is 4th in DRtg for players having played 20 games or more.
benefactor
01-12-2016, 08:30 AM
#ceperez
BG_Spurs_Fan
01-12-2016, 08:31 AM
His defense among PFs is at #28 in the league. Is that elite?
His offense among PFs is ranked at #48 in the league. Is that elite?
http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/RPM/position/6
Well I was pretty sure you didn't know what you were talking about. Don't know why I replied, tbh, I guess I had higher expectations.
Just a big fat lol @ claiming Spencer Hawes and Amare Stoudamire are better defenders than Aldridge.
Carry on with the schtick.
midnightpulp
01-12-2016, 08:36 AM
#ceperez
:lol
BOHOLANO#21
01-12-2016, 08:44 AM
#ceperez =clown= loser
Mel_13
01-12-2016, 08:45 AM
ceperez just doing #ceperez things
BOHOLANO#21
01-12-2016, 08:49 AM
If LMA is being utilized like he was in Portland he will have the same production. Spurs ballsharing made lesser shot attempts and less points.
playbonner15
01-12-2016, 09:05 AM
Is #ceperez now a thing? :lol
Cowboys_Wear_Spurs
01-12-2016, 09:30 AM
Against the Warriors, keep feeding Aldridge in the post until they swap away from Draymond at the 5, or to get Draymond into foul trouble.
LMA in the post was a clinic tonight.
LMA is looking more comfortable now. Even over the past two weeks, you can tell he has lost some weight as well. Last night was the LMA the Spurs needed against Houston back in Christmas. But I expect him to be better and better the coming months. The good thing about last night's performance, their wasn't a drop in the defense that he has been playing thus far this year. With him and Kawhi, the Spurs will easily win 50 game + for the next 5 years and be in playoff contention.
100%duncan
01-12-2016, 10:14 AM
nvm
#ceperez
:lol
TheDoctor
01-12-2016, 10:40 AM
@_ceperez #NBAVote
If Kobe can, why not.
LaMarcus Bryant
01-12-2016, 11:04 AM
Lmao lmao lmao
ceperez
01-12-2016, 11:32 AM
We've already covered this one, dumbass. RPM is NOT a measure of current performance. Previous seasons are used, and skew the results.
For all forwards, based ONLY on this season. LMA is 4th in DRtg for players having played 20 games or more.
Talk about B.S. If it were based on previous seasons then how do you explain Leonard and Draymond Green topping the charts for their positions?
Real Plus Minus is simply beyond your brain's comprehension.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 11:44 AM
LMA is looking more comfortable now. Even over the past two weeks, you can tell he has lost some weight as well. Last night was the LMA the Spurs needed against Houston back in Christmas. But I expect him to be better and better the coming months. The good thing about last night's performance, their wasn't a drop in the defense that he has been playing thus far this year. With him and Kawhi, the Spurs will easily win 50 game + for the next 5 years and be in playoff contention.
I agree here, he played very well against the lowly Nets.
Fingers crossed that he delivers this kind of performance against playoff bound teams.
This kind of performance transforms the Spurs into a credible threat to win it all. Aldridge's past lackadaisical play really isn't going to cut it though.
Dre_7
01-12-2016, 11:49 AM
Only a fool would think LMA wasn't worth it!
ceperez
01-12-2016, 11:55 AM
Only a fool would think LMA wasn't worth it!
I'm all rooting for LMA to play better. But the kind of effort and play that he's been contributing in the first half of the season was really pathetic. Anyone who looked at the numbers who know this.
However, if he can continue what he did last night, then absolutely he's worth it.
He's got talent, but the attitude he was showing wasn't cutting it.
Dre_7
01-12-2016, 12:02 PM
I'm all rooting for LMA to play better. But the kind of effort and play that he's been contributing in the first half of the season was really pathetic. Anyone who looked at the numbers who know this.
However, if he can continue what he did last night, then absolutely he's worth it.
He's got talent, but the attitude he was showing wasn't cutting it.
His effort and contribution in the first half was great. In fact his play all season has been great. He is one of the best defenders on the team, and has been since he got here. What "numbers" are you talking about? PPG? FG%? His numbers were a little low while he was finding his place in the system, but that was to be expected. My ONLY problem with him earlier in the year was that he was too unselfish. However, even while he was figuring the system out, he still brought it on the glass and on defense every night. Oh, and the Spurs are 32-6. I do not understand your hate. Splitter fan?
Mr. Body
01-12-2016, 12:30 PM
His effort and contribution in the first half was great. In fact his play all season has been great. He is one of the best defenders on the team, and has been since he got here. What "numbers" are you talking about? PPG? FG%? His numbers were a little low while he was finding his place in the system, but that was to be expected. My ONLY problem with him earlier in the year was that he was too unselfish. However, even while he was figuring the system out, he still brought it on the glass and on defense every night. Oh, and the Spurs are 32-6. I do not understand your hate. Splitter fan?
I think ceperez is a bit lunatic about this. LMA was too deferential to start and now everyone's learned a lot about how to make it work - really well.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 12:38 PM
His effort and contribution in the first half was great. In fact his play all season has been great. He is one of the best defenders on the team, and has been since he got here. What "numbers" are you talking about? PPG? FG%? His numbers were a little low while he was finding his place in the system, but that was to be expected. My ONLY problem with him earlier in the year was that he was too unselfish. However, even while he was figuring the system out, he still brought it on the glass and on defense every night. Oh, and the Spurs are 32-6. I do not understand your hate. Splitter fan?
ESPN Real Plus Minus. These are numbers that tweak out individual performances away from group performance.
Just look at his performance in the team's losses:
Loss to Toronto - scored 13 points on 40% shooting.
Loss to Washington - scored 10 points on 28% shooting.
Loss to OKC - scored 10 points on 33% shooting.
So *half* the losses you can blame it on his pathetic performance.
If these aren't pathetic performances by a max-player, then I have no idea what is.
He finally played like a max player against the Nets... lets see if that carries over against good teams.
Chinook
01-12-2016, 12:45 PM
ESPN Real Plus Minus. These are numbers that tweak out individual performances away from group performance.
Just look at his performance in the team's losses:
Loss to Toronto - scored 13 points on 40% shooting.
Loss to Washington - scored 10 points on 28% shooting.
Loss to OKC - scored 10 points on 33% shooting.
So *half* the losses you can blame it on his pathetic performance.
If these aren't pathetic performances by a max-player, then I have no idea what is.
He finally played like a max player against the Nets... lets see if that carries over against good teams.
This is a very # post. You're saying that the sign of an All-Star is that his teams play well when he doesn't? That's just irrational. If anything, your stats show that the team depends on LMA being efficient to win. Seeing as the Spurs are the 1b team in the league, I think you can make a strong case for LMA to get some All-Star or All-team consideration.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 12:57 PM
This is a very # post. You're saying that the sign of an All-Star is that his teams play well when he doesn't? That's just irrational. If anything, your stats show that the team depends on LMA being efficient to win. Seeing as the Spurs are the 1b team in the league, I think you can make a strong case for LMA to get some All-Star or All-team consideration.
Well, I didn't list the pathetic games he played where the Spurs won.
TWolves - 6 points - 37% shooting
Nuggets - 12 points - 43% shooting
Twolves - 12 points - 44%
Pacers - 10 points - 36%
Bucks - 6 points - 30%
just in December.
Obstructed_View
01-12-2016, 01:07 PM
I'm all rooting for LMA to play better. But the kind of effort and play that he's been contributing in the first half of the season was really pathetic. Anyone who looked at the numbers who know this.
However, if he can continue what he did last night, then absolutely he's worth it.
He's got talent, but the attitude he was showing wasn't cutting it.
But isn't 33-6 a number?
hater
01-12-2016, 01:27 PM
Well, I didn't list the pathetic games he played where the Spurs won.
TWolves - 6 points - 37% shooting
Nuggets - 12 points - 43% shooting
Twolves - 12 points - 44%
Pacers - 10 points - 36%
Bucks - 6 points - 30%
just in December.
Why dont you list the pathetic games Kawhi, Duncan, Parker and Manu has tbqh :rolleyes
SpursBig3s
01-12-2016, 01:27 PM
You must be cherry picking, his best games were against Brooklyn and the 76ers. He had a good game against LAC and Houston. Otherwise, the number show that a vast majority of his games, he's been playing like a scrub.
Fortunately, this half of the season Spurs will play more good teams and I do *expect* that he shows up.
Not everything tells the story via numbers. To say LMA has been playing "like a scrub" is just flat out wrong on all accounts. He is a significant reason why we have the best defense in the league, and is another big reason why TP has started out strong this year. I mean for godsake we are 33-6 with him, he's averaging a double double what more do you want from him? This is the freaking Spurs, if you thought he was gonna average close to his Portland numbers idk what to tell you because thata incredibly dumb if you did. Parker said as much in a post practice interview that "you can't judge anybody by their numbers on the Spurs because that's not how we play."
you need to pull your head out of your ass, because LMA is a big reason why we have the 2nd best record in the league, and if not for a historic start by Golden State, we would clearly be the best team in the league.
hater
01-12-2016, 01:27 PM
And how is 12pts with 44% shooting in a win pathetic :lmao short bus :lol
SpursBig3s
01-12-2016, 01:29 PM
Averaging double double almost while being a big factor on this historically defensive team is equal to being a scrub :lol not to mention the pressure he takes away from tim and tony in being main threats offensively
THIS :bobo it's like people aren't even paying attention to the games. We're in a day and age where EVERYBODY in free agency is getting overpaid due to th market. What more do people want from him. He's been looking much better the past month
SpursBig3s
01-12-2016, 01:32 PM
I expect him to play like an all-star. I don't expect him to play will lesser efficiency than Enes Kanter.
You mean to tell me, average 44% FG percentage is all-star level play???
You are a gigantic idiot if you're using freaking Enes Kanter as a comparison :lmao Kanter comes off the bench and plays almost exclusively against the opposing teams bench players and 2nd-3rd string bigs. Don't be retarded. Plus he is a revolving door on defense
ceperez
01-12-2016, 01:47 PM
Not everything tells the story via numbers. To say LMA has been playing "like a scrub" is just flat out wrong on all accounts. He is a significant reason why we have the best defense in the league, and is another big reason why TP has started out strong this year. I mean for godsake we are 33-6 with him, he's averaging a double double what more do you want from him? This is the freaking Spurs, if you thought he was gonna average close to his Portland numbers idk what to tell you because thata incredibly dumb if you did. Parker said as much in a post practice interview that "you can't judge anybody by their numbers on the Spurs because that's not how we play."
you need to pull your head out of your ass, because LMA is a big reason why we have the 2nd best record in the league, and if not for a historic start by Golden State, we would clearly be the best team in the league.
I got to disagree here. If West played as a starter, then Spurs would have won more games. Just compare West's numbers to LMA.
The reason the Spurs are so good is because Leonard has been so much better in offense. It has nothing to do with LMA.
Speaking about the record differential, that happens to be the bench producing that, which incidentally doesn't include LMA.
ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:57 PM
I got to disagree here. If West played as a starter, then Spurs would have won more games. Just compare West's numbers to LMA.
The reason the Spurs are so good is because Leonard has been so much better in offense. It has nothing to do with LMA.
Speaking about the record differential, that happens to be the bench producing that, which incidentally doesn't include LMA.#ceperez
ceperez
01-12-2016, 01:57 PM
You are a gigantic idiot if you're using freaking Enes Kanter as a comparison :lmao Kanter comes off the bench and plays almost exclusively against the opposing teams bench players and 2nd-3rd string bigs. Don't be retarded. Plus he is a revolving door on defense
Yeah, I'm comparing him with over paid freakin' Enes Kanter. At least Kanter is paid $5m less per season. Let's look at the numbers shall we?
Kanter FG% 56.3%
Aldridge FG% 48.8%
By the same argument you make, Aldridge gets off looking good because he's playing with the likes of Leonard and Duncan.
I agree only with your statement about Kanter being a revolving door on defense.
ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 01:59 PM
It's OK to admit you're wrong, dude.
Splits
01-12-2016, 02:01 PM
The only difference between this year's Spurs team and last year's is Aldridge, unless you think Splitter and Joseph are the reason Green went from a 40%+ 3 shooter to a player that can't make anything anymore:lol..
The current Spurs team is clearly fool's gold..easy schedule + other expected contenders starting slow + they have been carried by Kawhi playing like the 2nd best player in the NBA, and Parker playing at the same level he did last November, which isn't going to last, clearly..
Green being unable to make 3s makes him unplayable, he becomes Andre Roberson, which is useless in today's NBA..that leaves Mills as the only shooter on the roster, and it forces the Spurs to over-use Manu, along with expecting inexperienced players like Anderson and Simmons to give playoff minutes(which doesn't work in the NBA, they'll both foul out in 5 minutes with the way refs treat unknown guys)..
They essentially killed their style of play/rotation to become a mid-range 2 shooting team that no longer has any depth on the perimeter, and is relying heavily on 2 ancient players to dominate(Parker/Ginobili)..
Wow. What a terrible take.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 02:06 PM
The only difference between this year's Spurs team and last year's is Aldridge, unless you think Splitter and Joseph are the reason Green went from a 40%+ 3 shooter to a player that can't make anything anymore:lol..
The current Spurs team is clearly fool's gold..easy schedule + other expected contenders starting slow + they have been carried by Kawhi playing like the 2nd best player in the NBA, and Parker playing at the same level he did last November, which isn't going to last, clearly..
Green being unable to make 3s makes him unplayable, he becomes Andre Roberson, which is useless in today's NBA..that leaves Mills as the only shooter on the roster, and it forces the Spurs to over-use Manu, along with expecting inexperienced players like Anderson and Simmons to give playoff minutes(which doesn't work in the NBA, they'll both foul out in 5 minutes with the way refs treat unknown guys)..
They essentially killed their style of play/rotation to become a mid-range 2 shooting team that no longer has any depth on the perimeter, and is relying heavily on 2 ancient players to dominate(Parker/Ginobili)..
I got no explanation as to what happened to Green other than to speculate he gets weak ass screens today unlike the good screens Splitter would provide.
I agree with the record being fools gold. It is the 2nd weakest schedule in the NBA.
I agree that it's Kawhi that's carrying the offensive load with his high efficiency offense.
The style of play of the starters honestly sucks, it is stagnant isolation basketball. I hope Pop starts mixing up the lineups like he did the last game.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 02:07 PM
Wow. What a terrible take.
It is actually a good take.
ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 02:09 PM
Time for Harlem and ceperez to start praying for losses.
Splits
01-12-2016, 02:13 PM
It is actually a good take.
- Aldridge is the reason LDN is shooting so poorly - FAIL
- Spurs record is Fools Gold - FAIL
- Parker can't keep up his current level - FAIL
- Green is Roberson, unplayable with such a lousy 3pt % - FAIL
- Mills only 3pt threat - FAIL (he's been terrible lately)
- Rely on Parker/Gino to dominate - FAIL
but go on...
ceperez
01-12-2016, 02:18 PM
- Aldridge is the reason LDN is shooting so poorly - FAIL
- Spurs record is Fools Gold - FAIL
- Parker can't keep up his current level - FAIL
- Green is Roberson, unplayable with such a lousy 3pt % - FAIL
- Mills only 3pt threat - FAIL (he's been terrible lately)
- Rely on Parker/Gino to dominate - FAIL
but go on...
- Don't know reason for Green's performance, but one can make the argument that the spacing and screening isn't as good as Splitter.
- Record ... yes... fools gold.... weak schedule.
- Parker... yes... injury prone... needs to be ready come playoff time. He sat several games injured. He didn't play well the last game.
- Green... I disagree that he being useless, his defense justifies him being on the court.
- Lack of 3pt threat can be a problem.
- Too much reliance early on Parker/Gino - I agree.
But... you are free to live in your own delusional take.
hater
01-12-2016, 02:22 PM
Short busser digging himself deeper and deeper and enjoying it :lol
Splits
01-12-2016, 02:24 PM
- Don't know reason for Green's performance, but one can make the argument that the spacing and screening isn't as good as Splitter.
- Record ... yes... fools gold.... weak schedule.
- Parker... yes... injury prone... needs to be ready come playoff time. He sat several games injured. He didn't play well the last game.
- Green... I disagree that he being useless, his defense justifies him being on the court.
- Lack of 3pt threat can be a problem.
- Too much reliance early on Parker/Gino - I agree.
But... you are free to live in your own delusional take.
- then make the argument
- so is the GSW record, the 5th easiest schedule, fools gold too?
- Parker: the least of our "problems"
- Green: So you agree
- Deflection
- Deflection
TheGreatYacht
01-12-2016, 02:25 PM
ceperez might be a retard, but let's not give OP a pass for his memorable shit take :lol
ceperez
01-12-2016, 02:32 PM
- then make the argument
- so is the GSW record, the 5th easiest schedule, fools gold too?
- Parker: the least of our "problems"
- Green: So you agree
- Deflection
- Deflection
Do you understand what "you can make the argument" even means?
GSW isn't as good as their record because of the weak schedule.
Parker is already hurt... so his take was spot on. It wasn't going to last.
Yup, I disagree with his take about Green.
He's saying Green can't shoot and that's because of Aldridge. I'm not going to make that conclusion, but he has a point.
Green not being able to shoot means Parker/Gino have to work harder. I don't know about that, they work harder as long as they are given playing time. But I agree with the take about the lack of motion.
Yeah, some stuff I disagree with, but it is better than your non-existent take.
ceperez
01-12-2016, 02:34 PM
ceperez might be a retard, but let's not give OP a pass for his memorable shit take :lol
Well, I don't know why Green is playing so poorly in offense. So I'm willing to give the OP a pass here.
Neurosis
01-12-2016, 04:37 PM
LMA is fine. He just plays less minutes and takes less shots with the Spurs compared to Portland and it makes his statline look bad, when it isn't. His Per36 stats are all on par with his last season though, with everything but points getting a little better.
If we take away Novemeber to account for his rough start, LMA's per36 for December is 20ppg/10.5rpg on 52% shooting. The only reason his points have dipped is that he's taking 16-17 FGA per36 as opposed to 20+ last season in Portland. That's just the Spurs offensive system, not LMA. After his shaky start, every single one of his stats is shaping up to be the same as or better than last season.
If your complaint is that LMA sucked in Portland all along, then fine. But if your complaint is that he's gotten worse playing with the Spurs - you're wrong.
SpursFan86
01-12-2016, 05:07 PM
Green is still shooting below 35% from 3 even with LMA off the court, so placing all (or even most) of the blame for Green's poor start to the season on Aldridge seems a bit ridiculous.
Anyways, Aldridge's per 36 numbers are almost identical to his career averages outside of scoring. That shouldn't come as a surprise at all considering he's no longer the 1st option here in SA. He's been much more efficient over the past month and a half which points to him getting more comfortable in the system. Just watching him play you can see that he looks much better now compared to how he looked in the first 5-10 games. The defense is performing at an all-time great level despite losing one of the team's best defenders in Splitter.
I just don't see how anyone could be that disappointed in Aldridge so far. How great were you expecting him to play in his first month with the team? We saw how much Bosh and Love struggled to transition into their new roles...it really shouldn't surprise anyone that he didn't start off guns blazing. What's important is that there's been a noticeable improvement since he first got here, and that he's doing the right things (playing defense/rebounding, not forcing things on offense, good attitude). It'd be one thing if he were playing poorly on offense while not contributing in other areas, but that hasn't been the case at all.
tl;dr: There's really no reason to be shitting on Aldridge at this point
SpursBig3s
01-12-2016, 06:42 PM
I got to disagree here. If West played as a starter, then Spurs would have won more games. Just compare West's numbers to LMA.
The reason the Spurs are so good is because Leonard has been so much better in offense. It has nothing to do with LMA.
Speaking about the record differential, that happens to be the bench producing that, which incidentally doesn't include LMA.
you cannot be this retarded, there's just no way:lol
ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 06:51 PM
GSW isn't as good as their record because of the weak schedule.Ok, which teams are better than the Warriors and Spurs, in your opinion?
ChumpDumper
01-12-2016, 06:52 PM
I got to disagree here. If West played as a starter, then Spurs would have won more games. Just compare West's numbers to LMA. I did.
Not even close.
houston spurs fan
01-12-2016, 07:29 PM
I got to disagree here. If West played as a starter, then Spurs would have won more games. Just compare West's numbers to LMA.
The reason the Spurs are so good is because Leonard has been so much better in offense. It has nothing to do with LMA.
Speaking about the record differential, that happens to be the bench producing that, which incidentally doesn't include LMA.
A lot of people suspected CerebralPerezly was a troll. If not then it's scary after this take. Jesus.
100%duncan
01-12-2016, 07:35 PM
#ceperez
Cry Havoc
01-12-2016, 07:37 PM
God damn you guys, if you're going to take a dude out behind the woodshed at least give him a blindfold first.
Cry Havoc
01-12-2016, 07:39 PM
It would be nice of we could put all of the little krews on this forum that think it's super edgy to spew idiotic vitriol and give them each their own thread, and anytime they start a new thread to spew their agenda, they get pinked for a week. Would give a lot of space for actual basketball discussions upstairs.
houston spurs fan
01-12-2016, 07:43 PM
ceperez might be a retard, but let's not give OP a pass for his memorable shit take :lol
Cry Havoc
01-12-2016, 08:00 PM
If we didn't have LMA the score would be something like 21-2 right now. :lol
ceperez might be a retard, but let's not give OP a pass for his memorable shit take :lol
Harlem is eventually going to come out and say that "this thread was game planned, Kori can confirm tbh."
TheGreatYacht
01-12-2016, 08:08 PM
Harlem is eventually going to come out and say that "this thread was game planned, Kori can confirm tbh."
:rollin
Obstructed_View
01-12-2016, 08:12 PM
If we didn't have LMA the score would be something like 21-2 right now. :lol
I shudder to think what the record would have been with no LMA and no Splitter.
Mr. Body
01-12-2016, 10:14 PM
Aldridge is awesome. He could have dropped 40 on the Nets if needed. Tonight he was a pillar. He's doing what Duncan has been struggling to do increasingly the last few years.
ducks
01-12-2016, 10:16 PM
Ok, which teams are better than the Warriors and Spurs, in your opinion?
ducks
01-12-2016, 10:17 PM
I shudder to think what the record would have been with no LMA and no Splitter.
And no Duncan and Manu they would have retired
ducks
01-12-2016, 10:18 PM
Aldridge is awesome. He could have dropped 40 on the Nets if needed. Tonight he was a pillar. He's doing what Duncan has been struggling to do increasingly the last few years.
Ditto
Duncan is good but can not do it every night
Cry Havoc
01-12-2016, 10:20 PM
I shudder to think what the record would have been with no LMA and no Splitter.
Even worse, our guys could have stepped up a little more tonight and played 40+ minutes only to lose by 3 at the end of the game on some bad calls. :td
This team is amazing, I don't care about SOS right now, they just won a game playing 5-8 on the road with Kawhi sucking on his thumb.
Tully365
01-12-2016, 10:26 PM
It was, tbh.
It was worth it.
SpurSwag
01-12-2016, 11:29 PM
undoubtedly worth it
Mikeanaro
01-13-2016, 01:19 AM
:cry Lamalcus
Averaging 20 and 10 on 55% shooting in the last 5 games. Finally starting to look comfortable out there.
I'll definitely take that over Splitter's corpse, Beli, and Baynes.
Horry Hipcheck
01-13-2016, 09:33 PM
It would be nice of we could put all of the little krews on this forum that think it's super edgy to spew idiotic vitriol and give them each their own thread, and anytime they start a new thread to spew their agenda, they get pinked for a week. Would give a lot of space for actual basketball discussions upstairs.
A new faggotdome for the people that think a keyboard and a TWC connection gives them a nuclear arsenal
Cry Havoc
01-13-2016, 09:43 PM
Averaging 20 and 10 on 55% shooting in the last 5 games. Finally starting to look comfortable out there.
I'll definitely take that over Splitter's corpse, Beli, and Baynes.
The best part is that this kneejerk overreaction thread basically seals any chance Harlem ever had of being a decent poster again.
dabom
01-13-2016, 09:49 PM
The best part is that this kneejerk overreaction thread basically seals any chance Harlem ever had of being a decent poster again.
Worse take in here. :lmao
Cry Havoc
01-13-2016, 09:50 PM
Worse take in here. :lmao
You mean "worst"? It's okay. English is hard.
dabom
01-13-2016, 09:54 PM
You mean "worst"? It's okay. English is hard.
I was on the phone talking and typing that. Thanks faggot. :lmao
Yes this one thread that is just asking a question whether if LMA was worth it is going to seal harlem's fate. This is why low IQ posters such as yourself make no fucking sense. :lmao
Cry Havoc
01-13-2016, 09:57 PM
I was on the phone talking and typing that. Thanks faggot. :lmao
Yes this one thread that is just asking a question whether if LMA was worth it is going to seal harlem's fate. This is why low IQ posters such as yourself make no fucking sense. :lmao
This is genuine concern and a real thing to worry about..this team has major problems that are going to be difficult to solve..
34-6, best start in franchise history, highest MOV in league history.
"Major problems."
:lmao
dabom
01-13-2016, 09:58 PM
34-6, best start in franchise history, highest MOV in league history.
"Major problems."
:lmao
And somehow that makes him a shitty poster faggot? :lmao
Go to fucking reddit to knee jerk faggot. :lmao
Cry Havoc
01-13-2016, 10:01 PM
And somehow that makes him a shitty poster faggot? :lmao
Go to fucking reddit to knee jerk faggot. :lmao
I didn't say he was a shitty poster. Never claimed anything of the sort. If you can find somewhere I said that, by all means show me.
I just said it ensured he wasn't decent. He's watched basketball for so long, yet kneejerks 10 games into the season about how unimpressive this team is going to be.
It's nice for him that you're here to carry his banner and save mi'lord's honor, though.
dabom
01-13-2016, 10:05 PM
I didn't say he was a shitty poster. Never claimed anything of the sort. If you can find somewhere I said that, by all means show me.
I just said it ensured he wasn't decent. He's watched basketball for so long, yet kneejerks 10 games into the season about how unimpressive this team is going to be.
It's nice for him that you're here to carry his banner and save mi'lord's honor, though.
What the fuck are you beating around the bush for faggot? "Not decent poster" :lmao
I was one of the first people to tell harlem he was wrong. That still doesn't make him a uhh.. "not decent poster"- cryfaggot :lmao
ElNono
01-13-2016, 10:06 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gBJ76GQmxvo/UEkQcxmEYTI/AAAAAAAACm0/gUrJN5YvHUw/s1600/Rob-Ryan.gif
Cry Havoc
01-13-2016, 10:07 PM
What the fuck are you beating around the bush for faggot? "Not decent poster" :lmao
I was one of the first people to tell harlem he was wrong. That still doesn't make him a uhh.. "not decent poster"- cryfaggot :lmao
It's okay. I realize that the world of black and white is all you inhabit, and the subtleties of layers or echelons is lost on you.
There is a pretty wide gulf between shitty and decent. You would occupy the former of that realm, so you should know it pretty well. :tu
dabom
01-13-2016, 10:07 PM
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-gBJ76GQmxvo/UEkQcxmEYTI/AAAAAAAACm0/gUrJN5YvHUw/s1600/Rob-Ryan.gif
:lol
dabom
01-13-2016, 10:10 PM
It's okay. I realize that the world of black and white is all you inhabit, and the subtleties of layers or echelons is lost on you.
There is a pretty wide gulf between shitty and decent. You would occupy the former of that realm, so you should know it pretty well. :tu
Sorry you got called out on shitty posting. Maybe you can post some longcatpics cat crew. :lmao
houston spurs fan
01-13-2016, 10:15 PM
Sorry you got called out on shitty posting. Maybe you can post some longcatpics cat crew. :lmao
Da fuck???
ChumpDumper
01-14-2016, 03:59 AM
Harlem is a shitty poster.
All the krew are shitty posters, though I think the Canadians retired and now just stick to attempted auntie rape.
cutewizard
01-14-2016, 04:15 AM
for all the fools of the world: LMA is the best power forward bar none, on earth......im a LMA believer
cutewizard
01-14-2016, 04:16 AM
the best thing about LMA is his humble acceptance of the Spurs and the willingness to adopt..............im a wizard so the next one to criticize LMA I shall put a spell on ok??
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