Was Aldridge worth it, tbh?

[dabom]

That's great, except the Spurs average more drives per game than Cleveland and only about 1 less than Chicago (and they rank top 5 in assists off the drive).

:lol A team with Manu and Parker wouldn't have an offense that's conducive to dribble-drive. Manu pretty much creates everything off the dribble-drive for that Beautiful Game offense you all love so much.

How did that work against GSW? Ya stfu. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

Uhh he plays with a ball dominant PG and stands in the corner how he is told to do most of the game. He makes tough shots on the regular faggot :lmao

Nope. Tony is well below many starting PGs in seconds per touch.

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/possessions/?sort=AVG_SEC_PER_TOUCH&dir=1

I told you you're above your paygrade trying to debate with me. You're gonna need a lot more than emoticons.

[dabom]

This midfaggot is losing it now guys. :lmao

[cjw]

That's great, except the Spurs average more drives per game than Cleveland and only about 1 less than Chicago (and they rank top 5 in assists off the drive).

:lol A team with Manu and Parker wouldn't have an offense that's conducive to dribble-drive. Manu pretty much creates everything off the dribble-drive for that Beautiful Game offense you all love so much.

Right, but what's the SF's role in the offense? Offense runs through Parker/Manu who are generating those drives, and that requires you to have guys who can knock down shots, make cuts, etc. The three guys you noted are much more ball dominant. Plus, Kawhi is a better post up threat vs. Butler/Hayward (Lebron is still best for position).

Kawhi's not a good enough ballhandler to take those reigns from Parker/Manu. (GS game aside, that was ugly)

[YGWHI]

Post. Midrange jumpers.

Why do you want to turn him into Kobe Bryant?

That style of basketball isn't going to work in 2016.

All the top small forward's (with the exception of Durant, who is the 2nd best 3 point shooter off the dribble in the league, so it's understandable) drive the ball at a much higher rate than Kawhi:

http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/player/drives/?sort=DRIVES&dir=1&Season=2015-16&SeasonType=Regular%20Season&PlayerPosition=F

So what? He won't turn into LeBron point foward so the Spurs should play him at his strenghts. He's an elite post-up player and mid-range shooter.

You say it isn't going to work but it has worked perfectly for him this season.

I'm getting tired of your "that's an old style" "that won't work in 2016"...the Spurs are playing big when everyone go small, slow the pace when everyone go faster...they can have an elite post-up/mid-range shooter as first option. In fact, this team has been very effective when they feeding Kawhi in that way.

[Ditty]

Aldridge needs to continue doing what he does best. Pick n pop mid range jumpers, and follow ups on offensive rebounds. I get him wanting to take advantage of a 6'7 Draymond Green, but that's when he he needs to destroy Green with that fade away jump shot that he would destroy us with when he was in Portland.

[apalisoc_9]

Ive never been wrong about kawhi progression as a player tbh. Id take my own words.

[midnightpulp]

So what? He won't turn into LeBron point foward so the Spurs should play him at his strenghts. He's an elite post-up player and mid-range shooter.

You say it isn't going to work but it has worked perfectly for him this season.

I'm getting tired of your "that's an old style" "that won't work in 2016"...the Spurs are playing big when everyone go small, slow the pace when everyone go faster...they can have an elite post-up/mid-range shooter as first option. In fact, this team has been very effective when they feeding Kawhi in that way.

It won't because Golden State exists. They just swarm any kind of post offense.

I held out hope that the Spurs would reinvent the wheel again (going big and exploiting the midrange while the league is obsessed with small ball and 3's), but Monday night was a wake up call.

Maybe things will change when they play our squad with Duncan in the lineup, but it's doubtful.

[dabom]

Tony has the highest average dribbles per touch and average seconds per touch on the team by a wide margin on all the starters. :lmao

I don't even care about context faggot. I watch the games. Telling me he is not a ball dominant PG when the team philosophy is pass the ball. :lmao

[dabom]

Drive the ball more. :depressed








































:lmao

[dabom]

This faggot wants a super bonner. :lmao


I'm out.tired of talking to low IQ faggot posters. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

Right, but what's the SF's role in the offense? Offense runs through Parker/Manu who are generating those drives, and that requires you to have guys who can knock down shots, make cuts, etc. The three guys you noted are much more ball dominant. Plus, Kawhi is a better post up threat vs. Butler/Hayward (Lebron is still best for position).

Kawhi's not a good enough ballhandler to take those reigns from Parker/Manu. (GS game aside, that was ugly)

Just because Parker and Manu are driving doesn't mean Kawhi can't.

And yes, his ballhandling isn't good enough, which is the point I was implying all throughout this thread. You can't be an elite scoring wing these days without being a good ball-handler. So what's left? Turning Kawhi into Kobe Bryant. Heavy isolation in the post and mid range jumpshooting. A style of play that won't work today (it might work for Kawhi's individual numbers, so I understand why his fanboys clamor for it).

[YGWHI]

It won't because Golden State exists. They just swarm any kind of post offense.

Except that Kawhi has the clear advantage in the post over their wings, and when doubled him last game, it resulted in points for other Spurs players.

We had this talk before, it's pretty obvious that no one wants to post him every possessions but he's handling the double teams so well and also, getting calls...

I'd like the Spurs to exploit it more often against them, instead of seeing Parker/Mills/Manu being neutralized in most plays. Also, exploit Kawhi's mid-range j -and LMA-, not many teams attack the Warriors from mid-range...I'd love to see how they react to it.

[midnightpulp]

Tony has the highest average dribbles per touch and average seconds per touch on the team by a wide margin on all the starters. :lmao

I don't even care about context faggot. I watch the games. Telling me he is not a ball dominant PG when the team philosophy is pass the ball. :lmao

Are you retarded? (yes, you are)

Of course the fucking point guard is going to lead the team in dribbles and seconds per touch.

[RD2191]

Dabom owning niggas per usual.

[J_Paco]

It won't because Golden State exists. They just swarm any kind of post offense.

I held out hope that the Spurs would reinvent the wheel again (going big and exploiting the midrange while the league is obsessed with small ball and 3's), but Monday night was a wake up call.

Maybe things will change when they play our squad with Duncan in the lineup, but it's doubtful.

LMAO

Not saying the Spurs will beat Warriors, but damn one game has got you ready to jump ship......

I'll give the best coach in basketball and a veteran, poised, championship tested team the benefit of the doubt until they either win 16 games in the playoffs or lose 4 in a series.....

[dabom]

Dabom owning niggas per usual.

:lol

[YGWHI]

Just because Parker and Manu are driving doesn't mean Kawhi can't.

And yes, his ballhandling isn't good enough, which is the point I was implying all throughout this thread. You can't be an elite scoring wing these days without being a good ball-handler. So what's left? Turning Kawhi into Kobe Bryant. Heavy isolation in the post and mid range jumpshooting. A style of play that won't work today (it might work for Kawhi's individual numbers, so I understand why his fanboys clamor for it)

No. If that would work for Kawhi, it would work for the team. A lot better than having him passive, parking, and waiting in the corner...

[dabom]

Are midnight and ceperez the same guy? Serious question. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

LMAO

Not saying the Spurs will beat Warriors, but damn one game has got you ready to jump ship......

I'll give the best coach in basketball and a veteran, poised, championship tested team the benefit of the doubt until they either win 16 games in the playoffs or lose 4 in a series.....

Nothing I said implies I'm jumping ship.

But there is no denying we are overmatched.

[midnightpulp]

No. If that would work for Kawhi, it would work for the team. A lot better than having him passive, parking, and waiting in the corner...

It barely worked when Kobe was at his peak. It's no secret why his metrics are rather poor compared to other greats.

Posting wings and mid-range shooting are historically inefficient options.

Kawhi parks himself as much as Pop parks him.

[cjw]

Just because Parker and Manu are driving doesn't mean Kawhi can't.

And yes, his ballhandling isn't good enough, which is the point I was implying all throughout this thread. You can't be an elite scoring wing these days without being a good ball-handler. So what's left? Turning Kawhi into Kobe Bryant. Heavy isolation in the post and mid range jumpshooting. A style of play that won't work today (it might work for Kawhi's individual numbers, so I understand why his fanboys clamor for it).


It might not work for the league, but it IS working for him. Top in TS% with usage over 20 and 200 minutes played (so I could include Boban) ... 119 players qualify:

Curry
Boban
Redick
Durant
Kawhi (Simmons is actually ahead of Kawhi but slightly under 20 usage ... pretty impressive)
Kanter
Harden
Thompson
Millsap
Towns

That's pretty good for a guy who just posts up and takes mid range shots. It also shows you can score efficiently in a myriad of ways from the names on that list. Would it be nice if Kawhi took his high 80s FT shooting to the line more often? Yes. But I also prefer not to have him play recklessly and potentially get hurt.

[Mikeanaro]

Simon, Doña Lena and Lamalcus... all great players.

[midnightpulp]

It might not work for the league, but it IS working for him. Top in TS% with usage over 20 and 200 minutes played (so I could include Boban) ... 119 players qualify:

Curry
Boban
Redick
Durant
Kawhi (Simmons is actually ahead of Kawhi but slightly under 20 usage ... pretty impressive)
Kanter
Harden
Thompson
Millsap
Towns

That's pretty good for a guy who just posts up and takes mid range shots. It also shows you can score efficiently in a myriad of ways from the names on that list. Would it be nice if Kawhi took his high 80s FT shooting to the line more often? Yes. But I also prefer not to have him play recklessly and potentially get hurt.

I know it's working for him.

But Kawhi is going to need to go above and beyond if we're to beat the Warriors, 30-35 point average over a series. You need a dribble-drive or dribble-shoot game in the mold of Curry, Durant to average those kind of numbers. Kawhi has neither. He can't carry the scoring load like Curry, Lebron, Durant in that manner, which is why it's important to balance the amount touches to our top 3-4 scorers (not all perfectly equally, of course). People wanting other players reduced so Kawhi can average pretty PPG numbers are missing the forest for the trees.

[YGWHI]

It barely worked when Kobe was at his peak. It's no secret why his metrics are rather poor compared to other greats.

Posting wings and mid-range shooting are historically inefficient options.

Kobe taking +20FGA, Kawhi barely gets 12...But if the team increases his opportunities a bit more, like I said before 15-16 FGA, he won't become that inefficient...



Kawhi parks himself as much as Pop parks him.
Not sure since most of plays where Pop/Parker/Manu calls a pick and roll, Kawhi isn't involved in the play and has to wait in the corner for the next...

[midnightpulp]

Kobe taking +20FGA, Kawhi barely gets 12...But if the team increases his opportunities a bit more, like I said before 15-16 FGA, he won't become that inefficient...



Not sure since most of plays where Pop/Parker/Manu calls a pick and roll, Kawhi isn't involved in the play and has to wait in the corner for the next...

He's on a 15-16 FGA pace. You forget most wins this season have been blowouts.

There's other plays that are not on pick and rolls where he just seems disengaged. Also, parking Kawhi at the 3 point line in those sets is beneficial for the team, since he spreads the floor.

[YGWHI]

He's on a 15-16 FGA pace. You forget most wins this season have been blowouts.
No, he isn't.


There's other plays that are not on pick and rolls where he just seems disengaged. Also, parking Kawhi at the 3 point line in those sets is beneficial for the team, since he spreads the floor.
A majority of Spurs' offense consists in pick and roll plays.
That's the point, we'll never see 1-3 p&r between Parker and Kawhi or Kawhi-LMA p&r so better try to feed Kawhi post-up/mid-range game or he's going to be underused the rest of the season and playoffs.

[Chinook]

Kawhi is the leading FGApg player on the team, and he is second on the team per possession. Again, it's COMPLETELY absurd to argue he doesn't get enough touches in relation to his peers.

[YGWHI]

2nd in FGA and 3rd per possession in January...

[apalisoc_9]

Ridiculous how players who are a a few tiers below him as a player gets more usage! Cant wait till his UFA and 28 years old!..sad his request was never given.

Were not even talking about players a tier below him. Just playera that are 5-6 tiers below him.

[midnightpulp]

No, he isn't.


A majority of Spurs' offense consists in pick and roll plays.
That's the point, we'll never see 1-3 p&r between Parker and Kawhi or Kawhi-LMA p&r so better try to feed Kawhi post-up/mid-range game or he's going to be underused the rest of the season and playoffs.

15.8FGA per 36 minutes. So yes, he is.

[YGWHI]

Ridiculous how players who are a a few tiers below him as a player gets more usage! Cant wait till his UFA and 28 years old!..sad his request was never given.

Were not even talking about players a tier below him. Just playera that are 5-6 tiers below him.

Not sure we should keep him after the next two seasons. 24 years old and barely gets 12 FGA parking him in the corner "to reserve his energy"...At his 28 we won't play him more than 20 mpg...The Spurs should look for a good draft pick in 2020 instead of sign him...

[midnightpulp]

Ridiculous how players who are a a few tiers below him as a player gets more usage! Cant wait till his UFA and 28 years old!..sad his request was never given.

Were not even talking about players a tier below him. Just playera that are 5-6 tiers below him.

Relax. He's essentially a rookie at being the offensive "man." He's only 24, and still needs to hone more offensive skills to be truly considered a guy that can put the offense on his back.

That's why I've been harping about offensive balance this season. Kawhi isn't ready yet to go into Oracle and drop 40 to get us a road win in a playoff series.

[midnightpulp]

Not sure we should keep him after the next two seasons. 24 years old and barely gets 12 FGA parking him in the corner "to reserve his energy"...At his 28 we won't play him more than 20 mpg...The Spurs should look for a good draft pick in 2020 instead of sign him...

Player fan :lol

[YGWHI]

15.8FGA per 36 minutes. So yes, he is.

Nice. But Kawhi played 31 minutes in December, 30 in January, it's likely he'll play 29 in February, less in March...he won't never get that number.

[midnightpulp]

Nice. But Kawhi played 31 minutes in December, 30 in January, it's likely he'll play 29 in February, less in March...he won't never get that number.

Because we've been blowing teams out? (or got blown out in the case of GS)

So you want Kawhi to meaninglessly stat pad in garbage time?

Yeah, just as I thought, player fan.

[YGWHI]

Player fan :lol
Why? I want the best for the Spurs. Why should we keep him when he's underused, getting old, and we can get a good pick in next seasons?

[midnightpulp]

Why? I want the best for the Spurs. Why should we keep him when he's underused, getting old, and we can get a good pick in next seasons?

He's not being underused.

You also need to realize the fact that Kawhi being brought steadily along like this will only prolong his career. Since his game doesn't rely on freakish athleticism, he'll likely be an elite player for the next decade.

Wanting him burnt out in a high usage scenario is silly.

":cry I just want him getting 16FGA"

He's getting that, so calm down.

[YGWHI]

Because we've been blowing teams out? (or got blown out in the case of GS)

So you want Kawhi to meaninglessly stat pad in garbage time?

Yeah, just as I thought, player fan.

Or..he could play the whole 1st and 3rd quarter like he did in the first months of the season instead of sitting him with 3-5 minutes remaining in the clock.

[dabom]

midnightpulp in another meltdown. Wow. :lmao


So much for a talented poster. :lmao

[midnightpulp]

midnightpulp in another meltdown. Wow. :lmao


So much for a talented poster. :lmao

:cry Gib bawl to Kiwi :cry

[dabom]

Your takes get better and better I swear. :lol

[ElNono]

I have nothing against my homie dabom, but mid is a legendary poster, tbh... The Kobe2Magic troll job was epic stuff...

These two niglets need to kiss like Magic-Isiah and move on, imo

[spurraider21]

kawhi is among league leader in 3pt% and people are are acting like having him behind the 3 point line is a bad thing

they brag about his TS% when it is largely elevated by his 3 point shooting

[UZER]

Because we've been blowing teams out? (or got blown out in the case of GS)

So you want Kawhi to meaninglessly stat pad in garbage time?

Yeah, just as I thought, player fan.

If that's what helps him develops the ability to go into Oracle and drop 40, then sure, why not. You can't be that dude until you've gone out and done it. Some guys do it naturally, some guys have to learn how to carry that load. Kawhi needs to learn and what better time than scrub time. And of course is not the same level D he'll be facing in the playoffs, but he'll have that much more confidence because he HAS done it. He'll might learn which situations to conserve his energy on on defense to help his legs on offense instead of going 100 everytime on D. MJ did.

Is like developing a boxer. You gotta let him beat up on scrubs to develope his skills and confidence so when he gets to the better fighters, he's ready.

[dabom]

I have nothing against my homie dabom, but mid is a legendary poster, tbh... The Kobe2Magic troll job was epic stuff...

These two niglets need to kiss like Magic-Isiah and move on, imo

I heard but he need to step up his game. He's like torn achilles Kobe. Sad to watch really...

[YGWHI]

he'll likely be an elite player for the next decade.
Nah. Next season, we'll bench him to reserve his energy...21-23mpg in the season.


":cry I just want him getting 16FGA"

He's getting that, so calm down.
Per 36 minutes. He's averaging 22 ppg per 36 minutes but you say he can't average more than 18-20 ppg on a contender...it's confused.

Kawhi's per 36 minutes stats apply to his FGA but not his PPG?

[YGWHI]

kawhi is among league leader in 3pt% and people are are acting like having him behind the 3 point line is a bad thing
It's a bad thing if you try to develop him as an all-around player instead of a 3-D guy.

Keep him in the corner to create space for others/to reserve his energy in some plays isn't bad, but parking him/being passive for entire quarters can't be good.

We saw that in the last Cavs and Warriors games.
He barely got a play in the first half, then he tried to take over in the 3rd.
He scored 14 against Cavs in that quarter but it won't work in all games. In fact, it didn't work against Warriors even when he scored 9 points in a row, it was too late.

[spurraider21]

i'm not suggesting he should exclusively sit in the corner :lol... but his 3 point shooting is absolutely a weapon that we should be taking advantage of.

you cant just give him the ball at the elbow every single trip down the floor and say "go"

[YGWHI]

i'm not suggesting he should exclusively sit in the corner :lol... but his 3 point shooting is absolutely a weapon that we should be taking advantage of.

you cant just give him the ball at the elbow every single trip down the floor and say "go"

Well, if the team want to take advantage of this 3-shooting...call more plays for him from there, not just give him the ball after a broken play.

Don't want to post him? No problem. When was the last time they call a play setting screens for his shot? He was so efficient shooting off screens in November, then suddenly without any apparent reason...no more of it.

What's about him being involved in pick and rolls just for 1 or 2 plays in a quarter?

[midnightpulp]

i'm not suggesting he should exclusively sit in the corner :lol... but his 3 point shooting is absolutely a weapon that we should be taking advantage of.

you cant just give him the ball at the elbow every single trip down the floor and say "go"

That's what his fanboys want. And while it might be best for his numbers and their fantasy teams, it'll destroy the overall offense.

[midnightpulp]

If that's what helps him develops the ability to go into Oracle and drop 40, then sure, why not. You can't be that dude until you've gone out and done it. Some guys do it naturally, some guys have to learn how to carry that load. Kawhi needs to learn and what better time than scrub time. And of course is not the same level D he'll be facing in the playoffs, but he'll have that much more confidence because he HAS done it. He'll might learn which situations to conserve his energy on on defense to help his legs on offense instead of going 100 everytime on D. MJ did.

Is like developing a boxer. You gotta let him beat up on scrubs to develope his skills and confidence so when he gets to the better fighters, he's ready.

But then we'd all want Pop's head on a pike if Kawhi got injured padding in garbage time.

Like it or not, his offensive development is going to have to progress slower than other elite players since Kawhi is playing for a contending team, meaning he won't get to pad on shitty teams and have the free reign to develop like Durant, Curry, and Lebron did.

[midnightpulp]

Nah. Next season, we'll bench him to reserve his energy...21-23mpg in the season.


Per 36 minutes. He's averaging 22 ppg per 36 minutes but you say he can't average more than 18-20 ppg on a contender...it's confused.

Kawhi's per 36 minutes stats apply to his FGA but not his PPG?

I never spoke definitively on claiming he can't be an elite scorer on a contender, just that I have some doubts.

I bought into him being an elite scorer in the first half of the Clippers series. He regressed over the next 3 games. I bought into him being an elite scorer a few times this season. And he's regressed again. Again, I can sit on here all night and post screen caps of Kawhi getting the ball in one-on-one isolation situations that are purposely created for him (just watch the movement of the offense and how they run to specific spots to create spacing for him), and he gives the ball up.

It's him parking himself as much as you think Pop is parking him. And I don't have a clue in hell why Kawhi just doesn't attack in those spots. A confidence thing? A wanting to play team ball thing? You soon forget that Pop needed to instruct him to be aggressive against Miami in the 2014 run, telling him to fuck Tony, Tim, and Manu, go get yours.

[YGWHI]

I never spoke definitively on claiming he can't be an elite scorer on a contender, just that I have some doubts.

I bought into him being an elite scorer in the first half of the Clippers series. He regressed over the next 3 games. I bought into him being an elite scorer a few times this season. And he's regressed again.
It's funny. You say we've been blowing teams out...that's why Kawhi played less and took less shots blah blah blah so he scored less points blah blah... But now he's regressed?


Again, I can sit on here all night and post screen caps of Kawhi getting the ball in one-on-one isolation situations that are purposely created for him (just watch the movement of the offense and how they run to specific spots to create spacing for him), and he gives the ball up.
Not sure. The Spurs rarely clear out for Kawhi so we don't watch many of those situations in a game.


It's him parking himself as much as you think Pop is parking him.
And again. The most plays Kawhi's behind the 3 point line, the Spurs are running pick and rolls...they can help a lot to develop his game if he's involved in those situations instead of parking him.

[midnightpulp]

It's funny. You say we've been blowing teams out...that's why Kawhi played less and took less shots blah blah blah so he scored less points blah blah... But now he's regressed?

Before the last two games, he had 7 straight games in which shot below 50%. Yes, it could be the blow out factor that doesn't let him put together a big scoring stretch, but I'm just not seeing the confidence.



Not sure. The Spurs rarely clear out for Kawhi so we don't watch many of those situations in a game.

Well, you don't want to abuse iso situations like that, we're not in the 90's, but Kawhi will pass up 2 or 3 situations like that every game when they do get him one-on-one.



And again. The most plays Kawhi's behind the 3 point line, the Spurs are running pick and rolls...they can help a lot to develop his game if he's involved in those situations instead of parking him.

He's a great 3 point shooter. Why wouldn't you want him behind the 3 point line in a lot of sets? It creates spacing for the team and for himself when he gets the pass (a lot of those driving lanes he has that I speak of are in fact created by Kawhi being a threat from 3).

I still don't see the issue.

- He gets a fair amount of front court touches.
- He's at 15.8 FGA per 36 minutes
- His FT rate is climbing
- In Dec., I think he averaged the most assists he ever has in his career
- This month, he's averaging about 2.0 TO, meaning he is handling the ball some

All this points to him being engaged in the offense.

I get it, you want him force-fed in the post Kobe-style. Isn't going to happen.

[gilmor]

This is a fair question..

Do you think Kawhi can average 35-40 points a game? Given Spurs will give him as many touches as possible..

[ceperez]

Just because Parker and Manu are driving doesn't mean Kawhi can't.

And yes, his ballhandling isn't good enough, which is the point I was implying all throughout this thread. You can't be an elite scoring wing these days without being a good ball-handler. So what's left? Turning Kawhi into Kobe Bryant. Heavy isolation in the post and mid range jumpshooting. A style of play that won't work today (it might work for Kawhi's individual numbers, so I understand why his fanboys clamor for it).

I agree here about the importance of ballhandling. Kawhi still needs to work on his ballhandling.

Kawhi could be the focal point of offense like how the Bulls have morphed their game around Jimmy Butler. GSW also plays that kind of game with Green playing as point. It is a different kind of game compared to the more traditional PG leading the attack.

[ceperez]

I never spoke definitively on claiming he can't be an elite scorer on a contender, just that I have some doubts.

I bought into him being an elite scorer in the first half of the Clippers series. He regressed over the next 3 games. I bought into him being an elite scorer a few times this season. And he's regressed again. Again, I can sit on here all night and post screen caps of Kawhi getting the ball in one-on-one isolation situations that are purposely created for him (just watch the movement of the offense and how they run to specific spots to create spacing for him), and he gives the ball up.

It's him parking himself as much as you think Pop is parking him. And I don't have a clue in hell why Kawhi just doesn't attack in those spots. A confidence thing? A wanting to play team ball thing? You soon forget that Pop needed to instruct him to be aggressive against Miami in the 2014 run, telling him to fuck Tony, Tim, and Manu, go get yours.

I agree with your take that he still needs to work on his offensive game.

In terms of skill and mobility, he's at least at the level of Jimmy Butler and we've seen how Butler has played when the Bulls has forced fed the offense around him. I don't doubt that he can score a decent amount of points and maybe the Spurs should have some experimental games to see how well this works out.

[dabom]

:lmao

[Mnky]

I heard but he need to step up his game. He's like torn achilles Kobe. Sad to watch really...

You're the only one who agrees your takes are good. :lol

[Kawhitstorm]

LaMarcus Aldridge (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge) scored 25 points with 10 rebounds and five assists while playing only 29:40. No other NBA player has had a 25/10/5 (points/rebounds/assists) game while playing fewer than 30 minutes either this season or last; the previous instance was by Blake Griffin (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3989/blake-griffin) on February 9, 2014 (26 points, 11 rebounds, six assists in 24:52 against the 76ers).

[elemento]

Still worth tbh.

[BatManu20]

LaMarcus Aldridge (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge) scored 25 points with 10 rebounds and five assists while playing only 29:40. No other NBA player has had a 25/10/5 (points/rebounds/assists) game while playing fewer than 30 minutes either this season or last; the previous instance was by Blake Griffin (http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/3989/blake-griffin) on February 9, 2014 (26 points, 11 rebounds, six assists in 24:52 against the 76ers).

:tu

[dabom]

You're the only one who agrees your takes are good. :lol

You're trash and you should feel bad faggot. :lmao

[Kawhitstorm]

:tu

Too bad they won't be playing the Rockets in the WCF:lol

[Mnky]

You're trash and you should feel bad faggot. :lmao

You declare yourself winner, and others loser. You can't declare yourself the victor... It just feels of insecurity. ..not to mention adding a laughing smiley, in hopes of feeling like you're supported by said smiley. Like so.. :lol

You can maybe recover your image though, with a sincere apology to the people. :toast

[Russ]

LMA made the All-Star team. :)

[ceperez]

LMA made the All-Star team. :)

Excellent, now he's more valuable to trade!

[dabom]

You declare yourself winner, and others loser. You can't declare yourself the victor... It just feels of insecurity. ..not to mention adding a laughing smiley, in hopes of feeling like you're supported by said smiley. Like so.. :lol

You can maybe recover your image though, with a sincere apology to the people. :toast

I don't even know who you are. I hope it stays that way. :lol

[Slippy]

Well don't to LA for responding and clearly showing his worthiness minus Tim by his side. To be accurate , the rockets D and Howard on the low block didn't really test him like the Warriors did. Still you gotta be impressed. He looked confident in his moves without over-thinking and worked hard to gain extra scores through his rebounding.

The real test will come up againt the Thompson of the Cavs who pretty much out-worked , out-muscled and out-played him last game.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Excellent, now he's more valuable to trade!

this

[Mnky]

I don't even know who you are. I hope it stays that way. :lol

I don't think anyone here actually knows anyone else. It's the internet. Try again.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Well don't to LA for responding and clearly showing his worthiness minus Tim by his side. To be accurate , the rockets D and Howard on the low block didn't really test him like the Warriors did. Still you gotta be impressed. He looked confident in his moves without over-thinking and worked hard to gain extra scores through his rebounding.

The real test will come up againt the Thompson of the Cavs who pretty much out-worked , out-muscled and out-played him last game.

LMA should just shoot over him every time and Thompson's value staying on the floor for the Cavs would decrease significantly.

[Sean Cagney]

With Tim out now your damn right he is worth it...

[YGWHI]

He's a great 3 point shooter. Why wouldn't you want him behind the 3 point line in a lot of sets? It creates spacing for the team and for himself when he gets the pass (a lot of those driving lanes he has that I speak of are in fact created by Kawhi being a threat from 3).

I still don't see the issue.
Parker and Manu are our primary ball-handlers/running the pick and rolls, which makes a ton of sense since both excel in those situations, but in tough matchups for them or bad nights, we need other options. Also, I still rather see the ball in Kawhi's hands in big games than Kyle/Simms.

We can't pretend that Kawhi's gonna be able to run a pick and roll with LMA in that instance if he never has the opportunity to do it in the regular season.
Kawhi can run pick and rolls during practice but it's just not quite the same as a real game.

We saw some of those problems in the game against Warriors. They neutralized Parker and no one in the starting lineup could help to establish LMA because Pop never called plays for Kawhi-LMA two-man game.

You don't, but I can see an issue there.

Just imagine this crazy sequence. They let Kawhi to run 1 or 2 pick and rolls with LMA/Diaw in the last minutes of the 1st quarter when Parker's on the bench against some shitty team...It won't kill the Spurs offense and will give Kawhi some experience in real-game situations. Then, when he improves, let him do it against better teams.

One or two p&r with LMA per game can't be that bad, right?


I get it, you want him force-fed in the post Kobe-style. Isn't going to happen.
No, you don't get it. I'd like to see 2 or 3 more post-ups per game but I also said more pick and rolls and 1 or 2 possessions per game scoring/coming off screens.

[SAGirl]

Jeff McDonald and Tony Parker with the goods.
677592350516842496

[ceperez]

Jeff McDonald and Tony Parker with the goods.
677592350516842496

In otherwords, LMA has a huge responsibility and better not be slacking the next half of the season.

C'mon, lots of folks took paycuts to play this season with the expectation that LMA will be playing like a max player.

[ceperez]

Most unimpressive top 10 highlight plays:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=meTTnhYA3es

ZZZZ! The guy can barely get off the ground! I'm surprised that at 30 he's even less athletic than Duncan at 40.

[ceperez]

Stat padding but had no real impact against Cleveland.

2 rebounds total!!!

[noles1983]

Dude is a beta bitch. He will look awesome vs shit teams, that is all. And i was excited to land him at first. Now i wish we had an all star guard, not this loser.

[apalisoc_9]

Stat padding but had no real impact against Cleveland.

2 rebounds total!!!

I cant believe Kawhis prime is going to be spent with Aldridge as the second guy. Sad.

[HarlemHeat37]

I cant believe Kawhis prime is going to be spent with Aldridge as the second guy. Sad.

Meh, this was all predictable, tbh, I said it all earlier in the thread..the usual idiots replied by citing the Spurs record, etc:lol

This team had a great start in a terrible NBA year and an easy schedule, because of unsustainable defense, Kawhi playing MVP ball and over-reliance on Parker and Ginobili..outside of a few games vs. bad teams, Tony and Manu are beginning to show signs of wear and tear..

Changing to an antiquated system to run inefficient post ups for Lamarcus "never played well in a meaningful game that Terrence Jones wasn't involved in" Aldridge..

[apalisoc_9]

Does Lamarcus even generate double teams? Not a single team have doubled LMA since december.:lmao

At least porker hooks defenders to the paint in his drive but hes 34 now and is clearly more aggresive on some games and has zero legs in some. Kawhi is the only guy that gets doubled.

[ChumpDumper]

lol insecure krew waiting for a loss

[sasaint]

I cant believe Kawhis prime is going to be spent with Aldridge as the second guy. Sad.

Nah, we trade LMA to the Fakers for Timmy's protege, Hibbert, and D'Angelo Russell. We get a big who is not much worse than LMA on an expiring contract and a good-sized young combo guard for the future. That should get an endorsement from you and ceperez.

[HarlemHeat37]

Does Lamarcus even generate double teams? Not a single team have doubled LMA since december.:lmao

At least porker hooks defenders to the paint in his drive but hes 34 now and is clearly more aggresive on some games and has zero legs in some. Kawhi is the only guy that gets doubled.

:lol there's a poster on this page that was painfully wrong and had the audacity to bump this thread, tbh..

[daslicer]

I cant believe Kawhis prime is going to be spent with Aldridge as the second guy. Sad.

Its not a tragedy since he's not as good as Curry,Durant, or even a declining Lebron.

[ceperez]

Nah, we trade LMA to the Fakers for Timmy's protege, Hibbert, and D'Angelo Russell. We get a big who is not much worse than LMA on an expiring contract and a good-sized young combo guard for the future. That should get an endorsement from you and ceperez.

Right now, I'm for anything that'll give the Spurs some flexibility. Russell is 6'5" so he's got decent size and word out is Lakers looking for a trade!

http://www.inquisitr.com/2751631/lakers-rumors-dangelo-russell-trade-chatter-increases-as-byron-scott-nearly-forced-to-drink/

Give them what they've wanted... LMA!

I think though that LMA as an all-star has more trade value.


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[BOHOLANO#21]

36 points fuckers!

[Mnky]

:lol These protakes tbh

[raybies]

Some of those takes though. Gawful

[SpursBig3s]

People are learning the difference in all-star and legit franchise anchor. LMA is a damn good player but Tim is a generational anchor. There's really not many Tims & there's a reason why Tim, Lebron, etc are always sniffing around the finals. Fact is without a guy like Tim it's damn hard to win a title.

Not impossible but we are already seeing the difference in having a damn good player be your best player (LMA/Kawhi - which isn't bad, Spurs are a ridiculously good team and can still win a title) vs an all time great (Tim). It's just different.


:bobo Great post. totally agree. Fortunately, when Timmy retires, PATFO have set up the Spurs about as good as you can ask for. And, there's no more than 3 Tim Duncan's in the league (TD, Lebron, Curry?)

[Mikeanaro]

Lol trading LaMilton... :lmao

[ducks]

David Robinson had aj
Leonardhas Lma but not good enough wow

[Sean Cagney]

Excellent, now he's more valuable to trade!

For what and why? You won't get the same value in return IMO and he is coming around.

[T Park]

Dropping 36 on Anthony Davis ok or are we going to move the goal posts again?

"Spurs Fans are idiots" - Marcus Bryant

Still holds true 11 years later.

[Budkin]

Dropping 36 on Anthony Davis ok or are we going to move the goal posts again?

"Spurs Fans are idiots" - Marcus Bryant

Still holds true 11 years later.


I know I'm satisfied. Got damn.

[midnightpulp]

Dropping 36 on Anthony Davis ok or are we going to move the goal posts again?

"Spurs Fans are idiots" - Marcus Bryant

Still holds true 11 years later.

The final "goalpost" is likely to be how he performs against Golden State in a potential WCF matchup. Given LMA's history, it's probable he underwhelms. But as I've said before, he was always "worth it." The alternative would've been crying about Tiago "It Still Hurts" Splitter in street clothes and then watching Kawhi piss away his prime playing with retreads and projects, suffering 1st and 2nd round exit after exit.

[ChumpDumper]

lol this thread

[InRareForm]

goat thread

[TrainOfThought5]

Quite possibly the best/worst thread of all time. Right up there with "gutless worms" and "Will manu ever score 20 again"

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Every veteran pretty much has struggled their first year with the Spurs. LMA is not looking like the exception. But his defense has vastly improved over last year. If his offense comes up to par, he will worth more than what he is getting.

I reserve my take on first year players until season end to issue final verdicts on the season. A Month and half is a very small sample size.

Midseason verdict, LMA is well on his to be worth more than his current contract. Definitely was beasting last night on one of the better defensive PF in the league.

[houston spurs fan]

OP never shows his face on a Spurs win or when they do something positive. Only when they lose or to say something negative he views as profound. LMA has an off night Friday or Saturday and this place will be buzzing.

[BOHOLANO#21]

Western Conference Player of the Week fuckers!

[baseline bum]

The final "goalpost" is likely to be how he performs against Golden State in a potential WCF matchup. Given LMA's history, it's probable he underwhelms. But as I've said before, he was always "worth it." The alternative would've been crying about Tiago "It Still Hurts" Splitter in street clothes and then watching Kawhi piss away his prime playing with retreads and projects, suffering 1st and 2nd round exit after exit.

Yeah, I mean in the worst case LMA is still an enormous upgrade over Splitter.

[SpursFan86]

Curious as to whether anyone thinks his recent play has some to do with Duncan being out. Such a small sample size so I hesitate to take too much from it (I also didn't get to watch 2 of the games over the past week), but it's sort of interesting that he's played so well after being moved to center.

[SAGirl]

Curious as to whether anyone thinks his recent play has some to do with Duncan being out. Such a small sample size so I hesitate to take too much from it (I also didn't get to watch 2 of the games over the past week), but it's sort of interesting that he's played so well after being moved to center.
I do see he has more space to maneuver. He's harder to defend with the other big worrying about someone on the midrange or even in the perimeter. The team also plays a faster space w/o TD and teammates look for him more than they do with TD there.

[DPG21920]

My gut says that while his offense looks better (spacing around) that Tim being out is not the main cause, but general focus, conditioning and comfort.

The offense was still good with Tim/LMA at the beginning, just not the levels we are used to recently. It was bound to improve over time. I think LMA is more fit/in-shape now and he's more focused. I think the GS game was the proverbial wake up call like I said before. He realized the choice he made coming to SA after that game. It's win it all or nothing mentality now.

[HarlemHeat37]

Curious as to whether anyone thinks his recent play has some to do with Duncan being out. Such a small sample size so I hesitate to take too much from it (I also didn't get to watch 2 of the games over the past week), but it's sort of interesting that he's played so well after being moved to center.

Maybe, or it could be that 5 of the Spurs' past 6 opponents rank in the bottom 8 in the NBA in points allowed to starting bigs:lol

Aldridge has been playing like a beast, though, doing his regular season thing..all irrelevant, unless he plays well vs. GS/OKC/Cleveland, something he hasn't done in the 4 total games against those teams..

[apalisoc_9]

Maybe, or it could be that 5 of the Spurs' past 6 opponents rank in the bottom 8 in the NBA in points allowed to starting bigs:lol

Aldridge has been playing like a beast, though, doing his regular season thing..all irrelevant, unless he plays well vs. GS/OKC/Cleveland, something he hasn't done in the 4 total games against those teams..

Aldridge has always been a beast player against weak competition

[HarlemHeat37]

Aldridge has always been a beast player against weak competition

He's pretty great vs. mid-tier opponents, too, tbh..

[Robz4000]

Hasn't LMA generally owned OKC?

[apalisoc_9]

Lillard who deserved an allstar nod over harden this year, IMO..has always been portland go to guy against the top dogs. Judt check some of their stats.

Aldridge just seems like a guy sometimes who gets stats because he needs it for confidence. He really isnt someone who can make his teamates better.

[ChumpDumper]

But was he worth it, krew?

[HarlemHeat37]

But was he worth it, krew?

:lol didn't post after the Warriors and Cavs games..

[ChumpDumper]

:lol didn't post after the Warriors and Cavs games..Thought he was worth it after those games. Haven't changed my mind from the start.

Was he worth it?

I'm asking you directly right now.

[DPG21920]

Lillard who deserved an allstar nod over harden this year, IMO..has always been portland go to guy against the top dogs. Judt check some of their stats.

Aldridge just seems like a guy sometimes who gets stats because he needs it for confidence. He really isnt someone who can make his teamates better.

Raw stats Lillard is the guy. LMA crushes him on defensive impact (which is way more bankable come playoff time and with regards to winning unless you are Dirk levels of dominant offensively).

LMA absolutely makes his teammates better both via gravity and defensive ability. Lillard is damn talented, but has a pretty bad AST/TO ratio, is more inefficient than LMA & I don't think he makes his teammates any better than LMA .

[HarlemHeat37]

Thought he was worth it after those games.

Was he worth it?

I'm asking you directly right now.

I don't know yet, the long-term deal part is still a concern to me..

If he plays well in the playoffs vs. the Thunder/Clippers(whoever the round 2 opponent is) and Warriors(doesn't even have to be great, as long as he isn't average or worse), then yes, he was probably worth it..

The overreaction part of this thread is Harlem worrying about Danny Green's decline in the new system, I admit..

[DPG21920]

I get what HH is saying in a bubble. Many people wonder about is LMA going to be worth his deal in a couple years. Also, there is two ways to look at this:

1) He was worth it in the context of what was available and achievable (even when many thought getting LMA wasn't feasible). In that light, yes, he's worth it no matter the outcome because we know that standing still would not have put SA in a position to win. At least with LMA, whether or not he fits or not, the talent is there and the ceiling was raised (regardless of if the ceiling is actually reached).

2) It's the HH way of looking at it long-term and evaluating based on playoff results and long-term fit/level of play. If he flames out in the playoffs and we see a sharp decline in level of play from him the last 2-3 years of his deal will people think he's worth it?

It just depends on what camp you are in and I do think both camps are reasonable.

Also, with regards to Danny Green, I think everyone was alarmed at his play and it was (IMO) a reasonable question as to what might be the cause (even though Danny has turned it around).

Not that HH needs any defense, but just some perspective from me.

[midnightpulp]

I don't know yet, the long-term deal part is still a concern to me..

If he plays well in the playoffs vs. the Thunder/Clippers(whoever the round 2 opponent is) and Warriors(doesn't even have to be great, as long as he isn't average or worse), then yes, he was probably worth it..

The overreaction part of this thread is Harlem worrying about Danny Green's decline in the new system, I admit..

Back to normal now.

[midnightpulp]

I get what HH is saying in a bubble. Many people wonder about is LMA going to be worth his deal in a couple years. Also, there is two ways to look at this:

1) He was worth it in the context of what was available and achievable (even when many thought getting LMA wasn't feasible). In that light, yes, he's worth it no matter the outcome because we know that standing still would not have put SA in a position to win. At least with LMA, whether or not he fits or not, the talent is there and the ceiling was raised (regardless of if the ceiling is actually reached).

2) It's the HH way of looking at it long-term and evaluating based on playoff results and long-term fit/level of play. If he flames out in the playoffs and we see a sharp decline in level of play from him the last 2-3 years of his deal will people think he's worth it?

It just depends on what camp you are in and I do think both camps are reasonable.

Also, with regards to Danny Green, I think everyone was alarmed at his play and it was (IMO) a reasonable question as to what might be the cause (even though Danny has turned it around).

Not that HH needs any defense, but just some perspective from me.

If we were an attractive big market team or a team with a long history of courting high profile free agents, then I could see the caveat in this instance. But given the Spurs non-existent record of drawing anything more high profile than Dick fuckin' Jefferson in their 40+ year history, LMA was the logical (and will stay the logical, no matter how he performs in the post-season) gamble.

He also, theoretically, is a perfect complementary big for Kawhi, which is why I think the Spurs were so aggressive in pursuit.

[DPG21920]

If we were an attractive big market team or a team with a long history of courting high profile free agents, then I could see the caveat in this instance. But given the Spurs non-existent record of drawing anything more high profile than Dick fuckin' Jefferson in their 40+ year history, LMA was the logical (and will stay the logical, no matter how he performs in the post-season) gamble.

He also, theoretically, is a perfect complementary big for Kawhi, which is why I think the Spurs were so aggressive in pursuit.

I somewhat agree. I'm in the middle of both schools of thought. I think on one hand Spurs were in win-now mode and this move improved their chances. I also think Spurs have proven crafty and if the deal is an issue later, they can move it/deal with it.

But I also think there might come a time where LMA's deal is viewed as bad, but that's the NBA and it's not a given. You pay long-term for now results and declines happen.

Spurs aren't as bad at attracting FAs as people make it seem. They have been so good for so long, they really have not been top tier FA focused in such a long time. I think that has as much to do with the perception as the market does.

[midnightpulp]

Oh, also worth mentioning is that LMA will enhance the Spurs as a free agent destination in the future after Duncan and Manu come off the books. Pitching, "We want you to come play alongside LaMarcus Aldridge and Kawhi Leonard," is a lot more attractive than pitching, "We want you to come play alongside Kawhi Leonard and 2nd round project #56.

[midnightpulp]

I somewhat agree. I'm in the middle of both schools of thought. I think on one hand Spurs were in win-now mode and this move improved their chances. I also think Spurs have proven crafty and if the deal is an issue later, they can move it/deal with it.

But I also think there might come a time where LMA's deal is viewed as bad, but that's the NBA and it's not a given. You pay long-term for now results and declines happen.

Spurs aren't as bad at attracting FAs as people make it seem. They have been so good for so long, they really have not been top tier FA focused in such a long time. I think that has as much to do with the perception as the market does.

I have to disagree here.

In '03, the Spurs courted Jermaine O'Neal, Karl Malone, and Jason Kidd. Whiffed on all 3, and had to settle for Rasho, Hedo, and Ron Mercer. In retrospect, the whiff on Kidd was a good thing, but it does illustrate the problem.

And just last year, Pau Gasol turned us down in favor of the bigger market Bulls.

I do agree the Spurs are great at attracting retread vets (Steve Kerr, Kevin Willis, Kurt Thomas, Michael Finley, Boris Diaw) and giving them new life, but until the LMA signing, that marquee signing has long evaded us.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know yet, the long-term deal part is still a concern to me..

If he plays well in the playoffs vs. the Thunder/Clippers(whoever the round 2 opponent is) and Warriors(doesn't even have to be great, as long as he isn't average or worse), then yes, he was probably worth it..

The overreaction part of this thread is Harlem worrying about Danny Green's decline in the new system, I admit..lol no shit

Way to hedge your bets though.

[Mel_13]

I have to disagree here.

In '03, the Spurs courted Jermaine O'Neal, Karl Malone, and Jason Kidd. Whiffed on all 3, and had to settle for Rasho, Hedo, and Ron Mercer. In retrospect, the whiff on Kidd was a good thing, but it does illustrate the problem.

And just last year, Pau Gasol turned us down in favor of the bigger market Bulls.

I do agree the Spurs are great at attracting retread vets (Steve Kerr, Kevin Willis, Kurt Thomas, Michael Finley, Boris Diaw) and giving them new life, but until the LMA signing, that marquee signing has long evaded us.

2015 was the first summer since 2003 that the Spurs had more to offer than the MLE. Pau signed for more than the MLE.

[midnightpulp]

2015 was the first summer since 2003 that the Spurs had more to offer than the MLE. Pau signed for more than the MLE.

Good point. Wonder if he would've signing if we could've matched?

Blessing in disguise, though, since LMA is 5 years younger.

[Mel_13]

Good point. Wonder if he would've signing if we could've matched?

Blessing in disguise, though, since LMA is 5 years younger.

I don't know. Pau likes the cultural outlets of a big city. I do agree that it worked out well for the Spurs.

[DPG21920]

2015 was the first summer since 2003 that the Spurs had more to offer than the MLE. Pau signed for more than the MLE.

That's more of what I was alluding too. Sure, the Spurs might have tried to go after bigger FA's before, but never on equal footing money wise. First time they really did that (not counting keeping their own superstars) they won.

[Mel_13]

That's more of what I was alluding too. Sure, the Spurs might have tried to go after bigger FA's before, but never on equal footing money wise. First time they really did that (not counting keeping their own superstars) they won.

And keeping their own superstars has been vastly underrated.

[DPG21920]

Also, more than ever (outside of things like nightlife, etc..) the market matters less and less. Winning trumps all when it comes to exposure and you can be as big as you want to be in SA if you win. Tim could have had huge endorsement deals well beyond what he has if he wanted. He made that choice.

Now every game is on TV, watched all around the world. There is no advantage there any more.

[ChumpDumper]

Also, more than ever (outside of things like nightlife, etc..) the market matters less and less. Winning trumps all when it comes to exposure and you can be as big as you want to be in SA if you win. Tim could have had huge endorsement deals well beyond what he has if he wanted. He made that choice.

Now every game is on TV, watched all around the world. There is no advantage there any more.I think the big endorsement money is still better playing in bigger markets.

[DPG21920]

I think the big endorsement money is still better playing in bigger markets.

Probably true - just saying the gap isn't as wide (at least IMO). You can still pursue things if you're great especially no matter where you are at. The big FA's (like we are discussing here) are going to get there's no matter what. While there is definitely a gap based on market, big names will get there's if they want.

[spurraider21]

he's just playing both sides....

"He's not worth it"

"I've always said we should sign him tbh.."

[apalisoc_9]

Aldridge impact is severly limited when he does not score. His defense has always been poor defensively when he doesnt get touches.

He got the diva reputation because of that

[DPG21920]

Aldridge impact is severly limited when he does not score. His defense has always been poor defensively when he doesnt get touches.

He got the diva reputation because of that

Does not compute. This year, even with much lower usuage and stats because of that, he's had his best defensive year probably.

[ChumpDumper]

Salty applesauce.

[houston spurs fan]

OP only shows up around here when we lose or someone plays poorly to say something "profound"

[apalisoc_9]

Does not compute. This year, even with much lower usuage and stats because of that, he's had his best defensive year probably.

Plays for the spurs, plays with the only perimtetter player to win multiple Dpoy, and a top 3 defensive big of all time.

He's a great post defender but hardly anyone post nowadays. His closing and contest is also a joke.

Nothing against him, but its pretty clear hes one of those players who needs spoonfeeding to be effective.

[HarlemHeat37]

OP only shows up around here when we lose or someone plays poorly to say something "profound"

Ya, because I didn't show up earlier today after a nice stretch of games for Aldridge:lol..damn..

[apalisoc_9]

Its pretty welll documented that I wasnt for the Aldridge trade. I thought and still do that it was going to destory the spurs chances of getting better players in kawhi 26-30 prime years.

I didnt think the spurs could compete against a prime curry and.a historic team with Kawhi being 23 years old.

Aldridge will ultimately kill Leonards 26-30 years.

[ChumpDumper]

Nothing against himhttp://thumbs.dreamstime.com/x/horse-salt-lick-3032140.jpg

[HarlemHeat37]

he's just playing both sides....

"He's not worth it"

"I've always said we should sign him tbh.."

I mean, you can go check the Aldridge FA thread and read my comments, do you want a link? I've never been a fan of his, but I was 100% in favor of signing him, including over Marc Gasol..


This thread is going to go back and forth with the same arguments:lol

Other posters: bump this thread every time Alridge has a good game
Harlem: he has been poor vs. the better teams
Other posters if Aldridge plays well vs. GS/OKC/Cle: Aldridge showing up vs. a good team!! Harlem's a moron!!
Harlem: let's see if he can do it in the playoffs, he has always been great during the RS
Other posters if Aldridge plays well vs. OKC in round 2: !!!
Harlem: meaningless, let's see him do it vs. Golden State, they are the only challenge
Other posters if Harlem plays well vs. GS: :lmao
Harlem: I don't care, happy that the Spurs won, I'll eat crow, Aldridge has evolved

Advanced internet sports fan arguing, free of charge, tbh..

[ChumpDumper]

:cry Harlem sure doesn't care what other posters think about him. :cry

[spurraider21]

I mean, you can go check the Aldridge FA thread and read my comments, do you want a link? I've never been a fan of his, but I was 100% in favor of signing him, including over Marc Gasol..


This thread is going to go back and forth with the same arguments:lol

Other posters: bump this thread every time Alridge has a good game
Harlem: he has been poor vs. the better teams
Other posters if Aldridge plays well vs. GS/OKC/Cle: Aldridge showing up vs. a good team!! Harlem's a moron!!
Harlem: let's see if he can do it in the playoffs, he has always been great during the RS
Other posters if Aldridge plays well vs. OKC in round 2: !!!
Harlem: meaningless, let's see him do it vs. Golden State, they are the only challenge
Other posters if Harlem plays well vs. GS: :lmao
Harlem: I don't care, happy that the Spurs won, I'll eat crow, Aldridge has evolved
i'm not denying that you said we should sign him. its just funny that you go back to that all the time so you can sit on both sides of the fence

[spurraider21]

Plays for the spurs, plays with the only perimtetter player to win multiple Dpoy, and a top 3 defensive big of all time.

He's a great post defender but hardly anyone post nowadays. His closing and contest is also a joke.

Nothing against him, but its pretty clear hes one of those players who needs spoonfeeding to be effective.
who?

[apalisoc_9]

:cry Harlem sure doesn't care what other posters think about him. :cry

Wtf; this tranny keeps quoeting me and following me around. I'm not interested. Get a clue

[ChumpDumper]

I mean, you can go check the Aldridge FA thread and read my comments, do you want a link? I've never been a fan of his, but I was 100% in favor of signing him, including over Marc Gasol..


This thread is going to go back and forth with the same arguments:lol

Other posters: bump this thread every time Alridge has a good game
Harlem: he has been poor vs. the better teams
Other posters if Aldridge plays well vs. GS/OKC/Cle: Aldridge showing up vs. a good team!! Harlem's a moron!!
Harlem: let's see if he can do it in the playoffs, he has always been great during the RS
Other posters if Aldridge plays well vs. OKC in round 2: !!!
Harlem: meaningless, let's see him do it vs. Golden State, they are the only challenge
Other posters if Harlem plays well vs. GS: :lmao
Harlem: I don't care, happy that the Spurs won, I'll eat crow, Aldridge has evolved

Advanced internet sports fan arguing, free of charge, tbh..Relax, HH. You've said enough things for and against LMA to be able to claim you were right all along no matter how he plays this season.

[ChumpDumper]

Wtf; this tranny keeps quoeting me and following me around. I'm not interested. Get a clueYou guys are really chippy these days. Why? Not enough Spur losses?

[HarlemHeat37]

Wtf; this tranny keeps quoeting me and following me around. I'm not interested. Get a clue

:lmao

[midnightpulp]

Its pretty welll documented that I wasnt for the Aldridge trade. I thought and still do that it was going to destory the spurs chances of getting better players in kawhi 26-30 prime years.

I didnt think the spurs could compete against a prime curry and.a historic team with Kawhi being 23 years old.

Aldridge will ultimately kill Leonards 26-30 years.

As opposed to Euros, vet retreads, and undrafted players?

Also, as I've said before in this thread, LMA + Kawhi is a much more attractive pitch to a free agent than, "Hey, we'll add to our core of Kawhi and the Euro we just brought over!" And by the time Kawhi's peak happens, LMA will be 32-34, meaning at the tail end of his prime, which still makes him a dangerous 3rd option to have alongside Kawhi and whatever FA we may or may not get. And yes, we'll have the cap space. Cap is going up to 108 million in 2017.

Signing LMA to this contract doesn't ruin their future nor Kawhi's prime years at all. If anything, it prolongs the Spurs future/Leonard era, because of how attractive a Kawhi and LMA core will be.

[BOHOLANO#21]

28 points tonite! When will this apalisoc_9 die?

[Seventyniner]

All I know is that I'm loving this roll-to-the-basket version of LMA.

[ChumpDumper]

28 points tonite! When will this apalisoc_9 die?He's been reduced to ranting about trannies or something.

:crybasketball discussion:cry

[HarlemHeat37]

i'm not denying that you said we should sign him. its just funny that you go back to that all the time so you can sit on both sides of the fence

No, the original point of this thread was questioning whether it was worth it to build/change the system around Aldridge at the expense of Green(who they had just signed to a long-term deal, as well)..I already admitted an overreaction to Green's struggles, but most people only read the thread title and get excited:lol(like my Warriors are pathetic thread, which had literally nothing to do with their on-court performance:lol)..

[ChumpDumper]

No, the original point of this thread was questioning whether it was worth it to build/change the system around Aldridge at the expense of Green(who they had just signed to a long-term deal, as well)..I already admitted an overreaction to Green's struggles, but most people only read the thread title and get excited:lol(like my Warriors are pathetic thread, which had literally nothing to do with their on-court performance:lol)..The Green angle is actually the worse one tbh. I don't know why you keep drawing attention to it.

[spurraider21]

No, the original point of this thread was questioning whether it was worth it to build/change the system around Aldridge at the expense of Green(who they had just signed to a long-term deal, as well)..I already admitted an overreaction to Green's struggles, but most people only read the thread title and get excited:lol(like my Warriors are pathetic thread, which had literally nothing to do with their on-court performance:lol)..
yeah, pinning green going ice cold on literally wide open attempts on LMA somehow never made sense, as i pointed out earlier in this thread. its one thing if green was phased out, wasn't getting attempts, wasn't getting open... but that simply was never the case, even when he was cold

[HarlemHeat37]

The Green angle is actually the worse one tbh. I don't know why you keep drawing attention to it.

The Green take was wrong, I already admitted..I have no problem admitting bad takes, as rare as they are..

The Aldridge take isn't wrong, though..not at all, it's only February and he has not played well vs. any of the other contenders..

To be fair, you're the same nigga that said I was wrong about Parker, last year, too:lol..

[ChumpDumper]

The Green take was wrong, I already admitted..I have no problem admitting bad takes, as rare as they are(you wouldn't know, since you never actually talk basketball:lol)..

The Aldridge take isn't wrong, though..not at all, it's only February and he has not played well vs. any of the other contenders..

To be fair, you're the same nigga that said I was wrong about Parker, last year, too:lol..lol lashing out now.

You really can't stand this can you?

Boiled down: You were wrong.

Don't be a bitch about it.

[DPG21920]

Its pretty welll documented that I wasnt for the Aldridge trade. I thought and still do that it was going to destory the spurs chances of getting better players in kawhi 26-30 prime years.

I didnt think the spurs could compete against a prime curry and.a historic team with Kawhi being 23 years old.

Aldridge will ultimately kill Leonards 26-30 years.

That is quite the leap. It's possible that LMA falls off a cliff and the last 2 years of his deal look bad, but Spurs are still in a great spot for years 3/4 of LMA's deal from a salary perspective. It's so early to remotely assume the worst case and even if LMA tanks, it doesn't just kill all hope.

[HarlemHeat37]

lol lashing out now.

You really can't stand this can you?

Boiled down: You were wrong in this thread.

Don't be a bitch about it.

:lol I don't know where you got the idea that I'm one of these posters that refuses to admit when he's wrong..I always admit when I'm wrong, G..

[ChumpDumper]

:lol I don't know where you got the idea that I'm one of these posters that refuses to admit when he's wrong..I always admit when I'm wrong, G..Of course you do, G....of course you do....sure thing, G...

[HarlemHeat37]

Of course you do, G....of course you do....sure thing, G...

You're a nice man, Chump, I hate doing this to you, tbh:lol..I'm the Kobe of ST, when you make as many threads and posts as I do, sometimes you're wrong..

Some niggas talk basketball, while other niggas love asking repetitive questions..do your thing, bro..

[ChumpDumper]

You're a nice man, Chump, I hate doing this to you, tbh:lol

Some niggas talk basketball, while other niggas love asking repetitive questions..do your thing, bro..You never get defensive either, G....not a once....

[HarlemHeat37]

You never get defensive either, G....not a once....

Sure I do, we all do, it's human nature..

[midnightpulp]

I honestly don't know why this is a discussion?

I get Harlem was doing his Socratic thing, but no one but the most cynical fan could say this wasn't worth it.

- If Golden State (an all time great team, with greatest team of all time potential) didn't exist, the media would be jerking off the Spurs in that regard. 44-8 doesn't happen with Tiago.

- "Well, given his playoff history..." Doesn't matter. The Spurs are, at best, 2nd round fodder if we stayed pat. Only a complete tragic turn of events will keep the Spurs out of the 2nd round this season (indeed, we might not make it past the 2nd round because the Thunder are no slouch and always a threat. But if the Thunder do beat the Spurs, it goes 6 or 7 instead of the sweep it would have been).

- This doesn't impair the Spurs roster flexibility going forward. Cap is going up, and as I've said, pitching a Kawhi/LMA core is a much sexier than pitching Kawhi + Euros and Vets core. Yes, the Spurs won't be able to afford a max level player, but Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, and the like weren't going to come here any way. But they should be able to round out the core with a 15-20 million all star level player (max players will be probably be commanding 30 million per year in 2017). They can sign such a player and then fill the rest of the roster with their usual retreads and projects. The Spurs will also have 12-13 million to play around with next season.

The move couldn't have been better.

[T Park]

Yeah the idea of passing on a multi time all star power forward at 30 years old just boggles my mind

[MultiTroll]

Good to see Kwa - Aldridge expanding their chemistry tonight vs Heat.
Need them to work as a team.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

lol lashing out now.

You really can't stand this can you?

Boiled down: You were wrong.

Don't be a bitch about it.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Yeah the idea of passing on a multi time all star power forward at 30 years old just boggles my mind

think of it like this. i'm hearing the Durant warriors talk on sports radio. they're saying not only would Durant going to the warriors mean Durant is on the warriors, but it also means Durant isn't on any other team playing against them. Well the opposite is a nasty downside of lame. not only does lame hurt by being a drag on Timmys knees and Kawhi's youth, on a nightly basis. but also, now there isn't one extra regular season/1st round series that the spurs could have had, in the bag... Splitter, Tristan Thompson, Biyombo, Euros and vets, whoever.

[Slippy]

That was dominent against miami.

Gotta like the comfort level he showing in the spurs system . Everything seems to be coming naturally .

[G-Dawgg]

Aldridge has been putting a lot of points up and making it look easy with quiet efficiency. Aldridge is a stud and he's showing it. Aldridge haters are just gonna hate no matter what...

[Cry Havoc]

I honestly don't know why this is a discussion?

I get Harlem was doing his Socratic thing, but no one but the most cynical fan could say this wasn't worth it.

- If Golden State (an all time great team, with greatest team of all time potential) didn't exist, the media would be jerking off the Spurs in that regard. 44-8 doesn't happen with Tiago.

- "Well, given his playoff history..." Doesn't matter. The Spurs are, at best, 2nd round fodder if we stayed pat. Only a complete tragic turn of events will keep the Spurs out of the 2nd round this season (indeed, we might not make it past the 2nd round because the Thunder are no slouch and always a threat. But if the Thunder do beat the Spurs, it goes 6 or 7 instead of the sweep it would have been).

- This doesn't impair the Spurs roster flexibility going forward. Cap is going up, and as I've said, pitching a Kawhi/LMA core is a much sexier than pitching Kawhi + Euros and Vets core. Yes, the Spurs won't be able to afford a max level player, but Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, and the like weren't going to come here any way. But they should be able to round out the core with a 15-20 million all star level player (max players will be probably be commanding 30 million per year in 2017). They can sign such a player and then fill the rest of the roster with their usual retreads and projects. The Spurs will also have 12-13 million to play around with next season.

The move couldn't have been better.

The fact that this thread exists is hilarious. Because who the fuck else were we going to sign? We had to court the shit out of LMA to come back to his home state.

[ceperez]

Ever since he shut down his twitter and instagram accounts to focus, he has played with more energy and focus.

Jury is still out as to whether he can deliver the goods against the elite teams, but I'm satisfied with his contributions.

I wasn't satisfied with his play throughout the season and I was justified in that. Even the TNT crew remarked as to why didn't he shut down his social media accounts 2 months ago!

Coincidentally, Danny Green is playing much better ever since LMA shut down his twitter feed. Go figure!!!

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Aldridge has always been a beast player against weak competition

Really. So him going 36 points against AD was weak. Him avg like 21 ppg 10.6 rpg against Green for his career is because he is weak. LMA is an offensive beast against any competition when he is on. And in the Spurs system, LMA should have a field day. I projected him scoring about 20-25 ppg and shooting 55% by end of February/beg of March. That GS game just trigger something in LMA and he has been ahead schedule. Pretty much everyone has been this year when it comes to my projections, which is a good thing. The quote from Gentry tells you exactly why LMA will continue to beast in the Spurs system.

“I thought both of them played well. I thought LaMarcus did a great job of getting post-position on the inside. It’s hard for us to double them because they’ve got three-point shooters all over the place. They’ve got Patty Mills on the floor, Danny Green and some other guys. So Anthony had to play him solo a lot of the time..."

[SpursFan86]

Since December 1st, Aldridge is averaging 21.9 points and 9.8 boards per 36 minutes on a 58.7 TS% :tu

[look_at_g_shred]

Just saying, it was a good thing to get our ass handed to us by GSW/CLE

[ceperez]

Just saying, it was a good thing to get our ass handed to us by GSW/CLE

Still an open question as to whether LMA can prevent the Spurs from being destroyed by GSW or CLE.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

The fact that this thread exists is hilarious. Because who the fuck else were we going to sign? We had to court the shit out of LMA to come back to his home state.

A max offer for Tristan Thompson probably would have stole him, and would have been a much better bargain going into the future cap. Also might have kept Cojo at a bargain.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

A max offer for Tristan Thompson probably would have stole him, and would have been a much better bargain going into the future cap. Also might have kept Cojo at a bargain.

Also, here's another wild idea... the spurs could actually sign their own draft picks, for a change.

[ChumpDumper]

Maxing out a guy who scores 8 points a game?

lol

[313]

lol

[HarlemHeat37]

Great 4th quarter, tbh..took them too long to give him the ball, too..

[LongtimeSpursFan]

LOL. This thread.

[boutons_deux]

Great 4th quarter, tbh..took them too long to give him the ball, too..


31 - 17

[gambit1990]

what a stupid fucking thread :rollin

for a good one check: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255957&page=5&p=8419767#post8419767

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Maxing out a guy who scores 8 points a game?

lol

lame and kevin love are the same guy, and neither one can hold Thompsons jock strap.

[midnightpulp]

:lol Tristan Thompson

[ChumpDumper]

lame and kevin love are the same guy, and neither one can hold Thompsons jock strap.You want to max out a 8 ppg player.

[SD126]

I honestly don't know why this is a discussion?

I get Harlem was doing his Socratic thing, but no one but the most cynical fan could say this wasn't worth it.

- If Golden State (an all time great team, with greatest team of all time potential) didn't exist, the media would be jerking off the Spurs in that regard. 44-8 doesn't happen with Tiago.

- "Well, given his playoff history..." Doesn't matter. The Spurs are, at best, 2nd round fodder if we stayed pat. Only a complete tragic turn of events will keep the Spurs out of the 2nd round this season (indeed, we might not make it past the 2nd round because the Thunder are no slouch and always a threat. But if the Thunder do beat the Spurs, it goes 6 or 7 instead of the sweep it would have been).

- This doesn't impair the Spurs roster flexibility going forward. Cap is going up, and as I've said, pitching a Kawhi/LMA core is a much sexier than pitching Kawhi + Euros and Vets core. Yes, the Spurs won't be able to afford a max level player, but Anthony Davis, Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, and the like weren't going to come here any way. But they should be able to round out the core with a 15-20 million all star level player (max players will be probably be commanding 30 million per year in 2017). They can sign such a player and then fill the rest of the roster with their usual retreads and projects. The Spurs will also have 12-13 million to play around with next season.

The move couldn't have been better.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

You want to max out a 8 ppg player.

you watch Tim Duncan go from near 40 all star to "Peyton Manning."

[ChumpDumper]

you watch Tim Duncan go from near 40 all star to "Peyton Manning."The guy who just won the championship for his sport?

That would be cool.

[Chinook]

A max offer for Tristan Thompson probably would have stole him, and would have been a much better bargain going into the future cap. Also might have kept Cojo at a bargain.

The Cavs were begging for a team to max out Thompson. They had to pay him more by not matching someone else's offer.

[Chinook]

what a stupid fucking thread :rollin

for a good one check: http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=255957&page=5&p=8419767#post8419767

:rollin

[DrunkTXLabrat]

The guy who just won the championship for his sport?

That would be cool.

the guy who's dead weight on his championship caliber defenses shoulders. and ya know what, Kawhi is all the Von Miller... but lame ain't none of the Ware.

[Brazil]

The overreaction part of this thread is Harlem worrying about Danny Green's decline in the new system, I admit..

I had no checked dat thread for a while but yeah, props for that... only a few are capable to even start to acknowledge they may have been wrong at one point...

Danny is back and that's the best news of the season so far tbh :tu

[DrunkTXLabrat]

The Cavs were begging for a team to max out Thompson. They had to pay him more by not matching someone else's offer.

the cavs begging for a team to max out Thompson was like Larry Brown wanting to leave the championship Pistons.

[Chinook]

the cavs begging for a team to max out Thompson was like Larry Brown wanting to leave the championship Pistons.

Nope.

[ChumpDumper]

the guy who's dead weight on his championship caliber defenses shoulders. and ya know what, Kawhi is all the Von Miller... but lame ain't none of the Ware.Duncan is doing great for his age. I don't know what you are trying to say here; all the analogies you are trying to spit out turn out to be positive about this 45-8 team.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Duncan is doing great for his age. I don't know what you are trying to say here; all the analogies you are trying to spit out turn out to be positive about this 45-8 team.

Peyton Manning and Tim Duncan are on life support, and Tim's machine is faulty. you hide behind 45-8 and Peyton won a superbowl like a democrat who claims taxes aren't theft because they serve a public good. it's a goal post move. it's horse shit. and i don't expect you to understand, so i don't know why i even bother trying to explain.

[ChumpDumper]

Peyton Manning and Tim Duncan are on life support, and Tim's machine is faulty. you hide behind 45-8 and Peyton won a superbowl like a democrat who claims taxes aren't theft because they serve a public good. it's a goal post move. it's horse shit. and i don't expect you to understand, so i don't know why i even bother trying to explain.You couldn't explain if you tried.

Thanks for acknowledging that 45-6 and winning the Super Bowl are good things tho. I was worried you thought they were bad things. Only a mentally ill person would think that.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Duncan is doing great for his age. I don't know what you are trying to say here; all the analogies you are trying to spit out turn out to be positive about this 45-8 team.

Timmy aint doin great. he's literally breaking down and fading away. and that's to be expected, but it's suppose to happen as Kawhi ascends with a proper supporting cast. lame is not a good piece, he doesn't make for the proper supporting cast, he's suppose to be a brook lopez or a gortat. the spurs are suppose to have a young dude with an effective shot, a knack for boards, and the potential to toss a dime or make a defensive play. lame is a parent running alongside the torch pass from Timmy to Kawhi, trying to catch some credit for a smooth transition... but really just gumming up the toss and getting on everybody's nerves.

[ChumpDumper]

he's suppose to be a brook lopez or a gortatNo, he isn't.

This is why you are terrible at anything related to basketball.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Timmy aint doin great. he's literally breaking down and fading away. and that's to be expected, but it's suppose to happen as Kawhi ascends with a proper supporting cast. lame is not a good piece, he doesn't make for the proper supporting cast, he's suppose to be a brook lopez or a gortat. the spurs are suppose to have a young dude with an effective shot, a knack for boards, and the potential to toss a dime or make a defensive play. lame is a parent running alongside the torch pass from Timmy to Kawhi, trying to catch some credit for a smooth transition... but really just gumming up the toss and getting on everybody's nerves.

...off somewhere with a dim future, providing the spurs with an easy match-up night.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

No, he isn't.

This is why you are terrible at anything related to basketball.

yes he is, that's why you are.

[ChumpDumper]

...off somewhere with a dim future, providing the spurs with an easy match-up night.Do you actually think you make sense at any given time?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

lame is as much of a piece of shit as you chump

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Do you actually think you make sense at any given time?

where did you get confused? lame is suppose the be the main guy on a loser cake walk squad. where's the hard part of that concept?

[ChumpDumper]

yes he is.Show me anyone involved with or reporting on the NBA who says that Lamarcus Aldridge was signed by the Spurs to be Brook Lopez or Gortat.

Anyone.

I know you can't do it so you will try to go off in some other direction.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

where did you get confused? lame is suppose the be the main guy on a loser cake walk squad. where's the hard part of that concept?

i'll credit that gortat aint the main guy, but that's not much of a stretch. he's their main big.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Show me anyone involved with or reporting on the NBA who says that Lamarcus Aldridge was signed by the Spurs to be Brook Lopez or Gortat.

Anyone.

I know you can't do it so you will try to go off in some other direction.

unlike you, i don't give a shit about any validation for my opinion.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

unlike you, i don't give a shit about any validation for my opinion.

you're constant need for validation is my proof of how shit, your opinion is.

[ChumpDumper]

unlike you, i don't give a shit about any validation for my opinion.Of course you have say you feel that way.

[ChumpDumper]

you're constant need for validation is my proof of how shit, your opinion is.Who are you talking to? You just quoted yourself.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Who are you talking to? You just quoted yourself.

i was adding to it

[DrunkTXLabrat]

we speak different languages chump, talking to you is like talking to siri.

[ChumpDumper]

we speak different languages chump, talking to you is like talking to siri.Talking to you is like talking to the stupidest person to ever be born and[REDACTED].

[spurraider21]

Talking to you is like talking to the stupidest person to ever be born who is also living with a piece of rebar stuck through his skull and ate lead paint chips as a kid and whose mother had Zika fever, German measles and a crack habit while pregnant with you.
its cool to make fun of diseases when you talk to other people, but you flip a switch when others brought up aids

[ChumpDumper]

its cool to make fun of diseases when you talk to other people, but you flip a switch when others brought up aidsI'm sorry you had birth defects, bruh.

I'll ease up on you.

[spurraider21]

I'm sorry you had birth defects, bruh.

I'll ease up on you.
i wasn't offended at all. just pointing out your hypocrisy, bruh

[apalisoc_9]

Another basketball talk thread ruined by the resident armenian.

[ChumpDumper]

i wasn't offended at all. just pointing out your hypocrisy, bruhOK. I take it all back.

Will delete for your sake. Please delete my quote to as it is hurtful.

I apologize for hurting you. This is a safe place for you.

[ChumpDumper]

Another basketball talk thread ruined by the resident armenian.It was a terrible thread to begin with tbh.

[houston spurs fan]

Another basketball talk thread ruined by the resident armenian.
Says the Pinay...

[spurraider21]

OK. I take it all back.

Will delete for your sake. Please delete my quote to as it is hurtful.

I apologize for hurting you. This is a safe place for you.


i wasn't offended at all. just pointing out your hypocrisy, bruh
lack of reading comprehension combined with hypocrisy. model poster

[ChumpDumper]

lack of reading comprehension combined with hypocrisy. model posterHey, I apologized and redacted.

For everything.

And I never, ever claimed to be a model poster. If you weren't so emotional right now I would have to call you a liar.

I'm truly sorry. Don't hold on to your anger.

[dabom]

Known snitch on this thread. FYI...

[ChumpDumper]

Known snitch on this thread. FYI...Yeah, you.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Talking to you is like talking to the stupidest person to ever be born and[REDACTED].

if the spurs ever when a championship with lame as an active player on the roster, i will leave spurstalk and never come back. but until then, i'm just gonna be here reminding you that lame aint enough to get passed the warriors this season. and won't be enough to get passed the timberwolves in the seasons to come.

[ChumpDumper]

if the spurs ever when a championship with lame as an active player on the roster, i will leave spurstalk and never come back. but until then, i'm just gonna be here reminding you that lame aint enough to get passed the warriors this season. and won't be enough to get passed the timberwolves in the seasons to come.What would be enough to get "passed" the Warriors this season?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

What would be enough to get "passed" the Warriors this season?

take a wild guess chump

[ChumpDumper]

take a wild guess chumpNo, I am asking you directly what would be enough to get "passed" the Warriors this season.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

No, I am asking you directly what would be enough to get "passed" the Warriors this season.

trading in lame for a younger more Draymond-esque model.

[ChumpDumper]

trading in lame for a younger more Draymond-esque model.Who?

How?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Who?

How?

i'd hate to see it, because i like Brad Stevens so much... but the Spurs should milk Danny Ainge for Jae Crowder and anything else he'd cough up because he creams his pants over lame the same way you do.

[ChumpDumper]

i'd hate to see it, because i like Brad Stevens so much... but the Spurs should milk Danny Ainge for Jae Crowder and anything else he'd cough up because he creams his pants over lame the same way you do.Crowder didn't play well against Golden State.

This plan is a failure.

[midnightpulp]

:lol Tristan Thompson
:lol Jae Crowder

Who's next? Julian Randle?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Crowder didn't play well against Golden State.

This plan is a failure.

He would under this scenario.

[ChumpDumper]

He would under this scenario.Why?

[midnightpulp]

I mean, Jae Crowder :lmao

He's an SF. 6'6" 235. Imagine him at the 4 in the West? :lol

Ibaka, Raymond, et al would feast.

:lol Winning anything with a 5.1rpg player as your starting power forward.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

because outside of raWho'll, who might even be replaced by James Young or Celtic X under this scenario, the Spurs would have everything they need to match the Warriors of this season and the Wolves of the future. versatile, dependible, and plentiful defenders, accurate scorer'rs, quality passers, higher quality mentors, high up-side youth, no lame/rj/nesterovic softness factor

[SpursFan86]

tbf, Crowder is a really solid player...but yeah playing him at PF full-time wouldn't work out too well :lol

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I mean, Jae Crowder :lmao

He's an SF. 6'6" 235. Imagine him at the 4 in the West? :lol

Ibaka, Raymond, et al would feast.


:lol Winning anything with a 5.1rpg player as your starting power forward.

i don't know why you're laughing. The spurs would have Timmy, West, and Boban at 5. With Diaw as an alternate 4.

[ChumpDumper]

because outside of raWho'll, who might even be replaced by James Young or Celtic X under this scenario, the Spurs would have everything they need to match the Warriors of this season and the Wolves of the future. versatile, dependible, and plentiful defenders, accurate scorer'rs, quality passers, higher quality mentors, high up-side youth, no lame/rj/nesterovic softness factorSo a guy who plays 8 mpg and shoots 32% from the field makes Crowder a better player than he already is on the same team with this same guy who plays 8 mpg and shoots 32% from the field on the same team as Crowder?

How does that work?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

So a guy who plays 8 mpg and shoots 32% from the field makes Crowder a better player than he already is on the same team with this same guy who plays 8 mpg and shoots 32% from the field on the same team as Crowder?

How does that work?

you're speaking that siri language again so i'm not really sure who you're talkin about. i'm assuming you think that i'm saying James Young is gonna be a rotation player under Pop?

[ChumpDumper]

you're speaking that siri language again so i'm not really sure who you're talkin about. i'm assuming you think that i'm saying James Young is gonna be a rotation player under Pop?So James Young will have no effect in your scenario.

That's more like it.

So why will Crowder play better against Golden State in your scenario?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

So James Young will have no effect in your scenario.

That's more like it.

So why will Crowder play better against Golden State in your scenario?

he would, when the wolves come into play, next season. but for now, no, don't get hung up on stuff like that. i actually feel insulted that you think i'm such a noob.

[ChumpDumper]

he would, when the wolves come into play, next season. but for now, no, don't get hung up on stuff like that. i actually feel insulted that you think i'm such a noob.So now that you have admitted James Young will have no effect on playing the Warriors whatsoever, why will Crowder play better against Golden State in your scenario?

[Cry Havoc]

Timmy aint doin great. he's literally breaking down and fading away. and that's to be expected, but it's suppose to happen as Kawhi ascends with a proper supporting cast. lame is not a good piece, he doesn't make for the proper supporting cast, he's suppose to be a brook lopez or a gortat. the spurs are suppose to have a young dude with an effective shot, a knack for boards, and the potential to toss a dime or make a defensive play. lame is a parent running alongside the torch pass from Timmy to Kawhi, trying to catch some credit for a smooth transition... but really just gumming up the toss and getting on everybody's nerves.

Duncan is #1 in DRTG among all players this year. Not among Spurs. Among the entire 400 player NBA.

Have you watched a single Spurs game this season?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

he would, when the wolves come into play, next season. but for now, no, don't get hung up on stuff like that. i actually feel insulted that you think i'm such a noob.

and now this is addition...

Crowder with Kawhi, and Green. With a Timmy, West, Boban, Diaw, hopefully not Bonner up top. and a Tony, Manu, Simmons, Patty, Anderson, Young (shouldn't be Butler) underneath. It should speak for itself.