Was Aldridge worth it, tbh?

[z0sa]

:lol haters

[raybies]

solid bump

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/56a66fa44dbc67200fb8dffa84eabe32.png
:lmao mainstream fans

[HI-FI]

https://i.gyazo.com/56a66fa44dbc67200fb8dffa84eabe32.png <- all i can say is thank god this guy isn't in the spurs FO
:lol

[Silver&Black]

:lmao mainstream fans

:cry Do you even have takes, bruh? :cry

[TheGreatYacht]

:lmao mainstream fans

[100%duncan]

This thread was always stupid

[houston spurs fan]

Obviously he is worth it in a vacuum and you take a star player if you can, but Aldridge's addition has transformed Green into one of the worst starters in the league, after being one of the 2 best perimeter role players in the league since 2013:lol..worthless Danny Green = Spurs are just a pretender, as we have seen since 2012..

It would definitely be worth it if Aldridge was playing like a star, but he's been extremely underwhelming, so far..
Spit or swallow tonight Malik?

[Spurs 4 The Win]

Spit or swallow tonight Malik?

:lol

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m8_3PTlPFk

[Kawhitstorm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtsf8S154Cw

LaMarcus in the playoffs

[Kawhitstorm]

It's too early in the season, the Cavs were playing like ass at this point last season. LeBron was struggling & had to take a midseason vacation; it also took Love 2/3 of the season before he got comfortable playing his role.

[T Park]

Curious if this a good enough team, or are we going to move the goal posts again.

[cutewizard]

To Lamarcus Aldrige, best power forward, 2016 playoffs:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tJYN-eG1zk

[LoneStarState'sPride]

Not worth it. Been complete trash since he got here, tbh.

[Ditty]

Harlem is one of the better posters on this board, but he fucked up :lol. He admitted that he was wrong about Aldridge a while back also, but this thread is fun to bump.

[BillMc]

http://i.imgur.com/XPbxelD.png

:lol

[BillMc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m8_3PTlPFk

Watching this, there's no way little Draymond can guard him next series is there? Right? Right?

[BillMc]

I hope this thread will be bumped one day after the Spurs play vs. a good team, bro:lol..I sincerely hope so..
Ok.:toast

[TampaDude]

LMA just straight up shat all over OKC tonight. It was indeed a thing of beauty. :hat

[spurraider21]

Watching this, there's no way little Draymond can guard him next series is there? Right? Right?
it depends how confident LMA is

[BillMc]

Love Chuck, but this was a BAD prediction at 1:45


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=so6wUM__sV0

[TheGreatYacht]

Watching this, there's no way little Draymond can guard him next series is there? Right? Right?
If the refs don't allow Raymond to elbow LMA in the post and then slap down on the ball but get nothing but skin, yeah :lol

That rest did a lot for his pinky :toast

[houston spurs fan]

Op nowhere to be seen. Only shows up here to talk shit about our team, dog the Spurs about a loss, or make a racist comment with no validity.

[BillMc]

If the refs don't allow Raymond to elbow LMA in the post and then slap down on the ball but get nothing but skin, yeah :lol

That rest did a lot for his pinky :toast

Agreed.:toast They play it fair and Donkey's got no answer for LMA.

As for the pinkie, I haven't seen a big shoot jumpers that well since prime Dirk.

[TheGreatYacht]

Agreed.:toast They play it fair and Donkey's got no answer for LMA.

As for the pinkie, I haven't seen a big shoot jumpers that well since prime Dirk.
So fundamentally sound, that will help him have an extended career like Dirk and our Timmy :bobo

[GSH]

Obviously he is worth it in a vacuum

I heard a great big sucking sound on the court tonight. Do you think it was the vacuum?

[BillMc]

So fundamentally sound, that will help him have an extended career like Dirk and our Timmy :bobo

I'd take another decade of 50+ wins per season! :flag:

[Splits]

https://i.gyazo.com/56a66fa44dbc67200fb8dffa84eabe32.png

:lmao

:cry most knowledgeable poster on this board :cry

[cutewizard]

cant wait for game two.............

[james evans]

Splitter would have had the same type of game if Popovich had ran the offense through him

[TheGreatYacht]

Splitter would have had the same type of game if Popovich had ran the offense through him
Benched for Bonner :lmao

Jesus Christ that guy was terrible

[Russo21]

Legendary game from LMA in his first meaningful playoff game with San Antonio. The man is a monster and I hope he keeps it up. I can not believe we snagged this guy last offseason! Yeah Baby!

[UZER]

Watching this, there's no way little Draymond can guard him next series is there? Right? Right?

It he doesn't overthink it and plays within his game. Green can only stopping him from backing him down because he's allowed to bully on D down low, which is what LMA kept trying to do against him. LMA to too good to be stopped by Green if he just plays smart.

[BD24]

LMA taking a big shit on Harlem and Apa. Only person in the shortbus crew that was right about LMA was surprisingly dabom. Props to that nigga:toast

[BillMc]

It he doesn't overthink it and plays within his game. Green can only stopping him from backing him down because he's allowed to bully on D down low, which is what LMA kept trying to do against him. LMA to too good to be stopped by Green if he just plays smart.

Amen.

[DJR210]

Legendary game from LMA in his first meaningful playoff game of his career. The man is a monster and I hope he keeps it up. I can not believe we snagged this guy last offseason! Yeah Baby!

Fixed

[dabom]

LMA taking a big shit on Harlem and Apa. Only person in the shortbus crew that was right about LMA was surprisingly dabom (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=47543). Props to that nigga:toast
:bobo

[gambit1990]

tbh?

what a stupid fucking thread :rollin

[horsielove]

Yes. Every. Fucking. Penny.

[offset formation]

Yes. Every. Fucking. Penny.

And. Then. Some.

[Mnky]

http://www.playmakeronline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/983746675712343.jpg

LMA is the second coming of RJ.

24/2 = 12

A failed experiment that needs to be traded.

I'd like to have a talk with you in the official LMA apology thread. :pop:

[Mnky]

Current Kawhi is 25+PPG guy, he just doenst get the ball enough he was 4-6 and 7-7 for crying out loud. The issue with Aldridge is that since they paid him 80 million dollars the spurs are forced to play in a manner that benefits his game offensiveley, the problem is that its not going to work out against the thunder, warriors, cavs..really the only foreasable contenders in the next three years.

The token Aldridge post ups has to GO. It works against the terrence jones and the Kelly olynyks of the but not against real contenders. Kawhi has to look up to 35 year old parker and freaking mills and 40 year old ginobili to run the point Jesus...The spurs are a great team now, but it wouldnt surprise me to see them collapse next year or even this year.

:pop:

[hater]

:lmao this thread and the retards that gave it life :lol

[BD24]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by apalisoc_9 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8393092#post8393092)
Current Kawhi is 25+PPG guy, he just doenst get the ball enough he was 4-6 and 7-7 for crying out loud. The issue with Aldridge is that since they paid him 80 million dollars the spurs are forced to play in a manner that benefits his game offensiveley, the problem is that its not going to work out against the thunder, warriors, cavs..really the only foreasable contenders in the next three years.

The token Aldridge post ups has to GO. It works against the terrence jones and the Kelly olynyks of the but not against real contenders. Kawhi has to look up to 35 year old parker and freaking mills and 40 year old ginobili to run the point Jesus...The spurs are a great team now, but it wouldnt surprise me to see them collapse next year or even this year.

Such a great basketball mind :cry

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Bahahahaha.

[Splits]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by apalisoc_9 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8393092#post8393092)
Current Kawhi is 25+PPG guy, he just doenst get the ball enough he was 4-6 and 7-7 for crying out loud. The issue with Aldridge is that since they paid him 80 million dollars the spurs are forced to play in a manner that benefits his game offensiveley, the problem is that its not going to work out against the thunder, warriors, cavs..really the only foreasable contenders in the next three years.

The token Aldridge post ups has to GO. It works against the terrence jones and the Kelly olynyks of the but not against real contenders. Kawhi has to look up to 35 year old parker and freaking mills and 40 year old ginobili to run the point Jesus...The spurs are a great team now, but it wouldnt surprise me to see them collapse next year or even this year.

Such a great basketball mind :cry

:lmao LMA scored like 5 straight post ups against Abaka/Adams

[spurraider21]

http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/misc/quote_icon.png Originally Posted by apalisoc_9 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=8393092#post8393092)
Current Kawhi is 25+PPG guy, he just doenst get the ball enough he was 4-6 and 7-7 for crying out loud. The issue with Aldridge is that since they paid him 80 million dollars the spurs are forced to play in a manner that benefits his game offensiveley, the problem is that its not going to work out against the thunder, warriors, cavs..really the only foreasable contenders in the next three years.

The token Aldridge post ups has to GO. It works against the terrence jones and the Kelly olynyks of the but not against real contenders. Kawhi has to look up to 35 year old parker and freaking mills and 40 year old ginobili to run the point Jesus...The spurs are a great team now, but it wouldnt surprise me to see them collapse next year or even this year.

Such a great basketball mind :cry
:cry do you have any takes, faggot :cry

[vander]

so far he's worked out much better than you could reasonably expect from a free agent acquisition

[313]

Current Kawhi is 25+PPG guy, he just doenst get the ball enough he was 4-6 and 7-7 for crying out loud. The issue with Aldridge is that since they paid him 80 million dollars the spurs are forced to play in a manner that benefits his game offensiveley, the problem is that its not going to work out against the thunder, warriors, cavs..really the only foreasable contenders in the next three years.

The token Aldridge post ups has to GO. It works against the terrence jones and the Kelly olynyks of the but not against real contenders. Kawhi has to look up to 35 year old parker and freaking mills and 40 year old ginobili to run the point Jesus...The spurs are a great team now, but it wouldnt surprise me to see them collapse next year or even this year.
:lmao did you miss the 2014 playoffs where destroyed Dwert Howard?

[LongtimeSpursFan]

Kawhitards taking a beating in this thread

[Agloco]

LMA pushing shit in.......



Tbh. :lmao

[Floyd Pacquiao]

LA DA GAWD.

[K...]

LA DA GAWD.

still. Are people gonna still say Kawhi is our best player when he disappears in the playoffs?

[vander]

was signing with the Spurs worth it?

[007nites]

I really don't know if he was worth it. All he did was hit every single shot till the end of the game.

[SpursFan86]

Is Aldridge to blame for Mills' shot disappearing, tbh...? If we don't have Aldridge, maybe we win this game...

[TheGreatYacht]

was signing with the Spurs worth it?

[Kawhitstorm]

:bang727351054455717888:bang

[emanueldavidginobili]

Hats off to this guy, playing his heart out on both sides of the floor, he has been so much more than I could ever expected

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He's everything we could have expected and more, he's turned up his game in the playoffs.

If the rest of the team matched his level, we'd be immolating the Thunder right now.

[Gummi Clutch]

I fucking told you idiots :lol

[TheGreatYacht]

The best player, and it ain't close.

[DAF86]

Why the fuck didn't we go to him on the post on everysingle play down the stretch?

[TheGreatYacht]

Why the fuck didn't we go to him on the post on everysingle play down the stretch?
National TV game, that's why. The public can't see the Spurs go to one guy the whole game, my system will lose credibility - :pop:

[BillMc]

LMA now leading the Spurs in playoff points per game, FG%, 3FG%, rebounds and minutes played.

Yeah, he was worth Tiago, Baynes and Beli. Only one that really hurts is Cory. But a team can't have everything.

[Darius Bieber]

Poor guy... Signed with teammates that let him down.

[Mnky]

LMA now leading the Spurs in playoff points per game, FG%, 3FG%, rebounds and minutes played.

Yeah, he was worth Tiago, Baynes and Beli. Only one that really hurts is Cory. But a team can't have everything.

He's also been a beast down low on the offensive boards AND defensive rim protection.

[BillMc]

National TV game, that's why. The public can't see the Spurs go to one guy the whole game, my system will lose credibility - :pop:
:lol

The sad thing is LMA is likely not even going to make All NBA 3rd team (though I hope I'm wrong).

[BillMc]

He's also been a beast down low on the offensive boards AND defensive rim protection.

Absolutely. :toast

[TheGreatYacht]

:lol

The sad thing is LMA is likely not even going to make All NBA 3rd team (though I hope I'm wrong).
I'm still shocked he scored 40+ :lol

When he was at 28, Poop stopped going to him the whole third quarter. It's a shame that a coach has the biggest ego on the team. FEED THE HOT HAND

[DAF86]

First Spur to score 38+ in consecutive games since Gervin. They said it in NBA tv. Don't know if it was just the playoffs, or regular season too.

[BillMc]

I'm still shocked he scored 40+ :lol

When he was at 28, Poop stopped going to him the whole third quarter. It's a shame that a coach has the biggest ego on the team. FEED THE HOT HAND

I don't know what the reason was but they did ignore him for a long stretch.

[BillMc]

First Spur to score 38+ in consecutive games since Gervin. They said it in NBA tv. Don't know if it was just the playoffs, or regular season too.

Thanks for the info.:toast Surprised the Admiral never did it. Young TImmy always had balanced teams, but sometimes in the 90's it seemed David was the only option.

[TheGreatYacht]

I don't know what the reason was but they did ignore him for a long stretch.
21 shots smh, deserved at least 15 more.. He's shooting 75% from the field this series

[DAF86]

Thanks for the info.:toast Surprised the Admiral never did it. Young TImmy always had balanced teams, but sometimes in the 90's it seemed David was the only option.

Yeah, surprised no Spurs has ever pulled b2b 38+ pts. One could thought 2003 Timmy might have pulled that too. Akthough the stat is a bit of a cherry pick 'cause Manu did put up b2b 37 pts game in 2008 against the Mavs and Jazz.

[BillMc]

21 shots smh, deserved at least 15 more.. He's shooting 75% from the field this series

The beautiful game is gone. We're last year's Portland with better defense and worse (offensively) guards. :lol

[SAGirl]

:bang727351054455717888:bang
We should have won this game frankly.

[SAGirl]

I don't know what the reason was but they did ignore him for a long stretch.
I remember Patty chucking and not running any offense except for himself running off a screen. Really dislike Patty heroballing. :bang

[BillMc]

I remember Patty chucking and not running any offense except for himself running off a screen. Really dislike Patty heroballing. :bang

Agree 1000%

[$pursDynasty]

The beautiful game is gone. :lol
Bill for me the game was lost was when Westbrick went to the bench and was pouting but KD was still in and Pop decided to go with the offensively challenged second unit of Patty Manu, KA, Bobo and DWest, oh there was a lot of passing and no scoring. This is the playoffs there should be no reason for :clawand :lma to ever both be out of the game at the same time, except for the case of a blowout. Instead of catching up to the Thunderefs they extended their lead, smh.

[Phenomanul]

Bill for me the game was lost was when Westbrick went to the bench and was pouting but KD was still in and Pop decided to go with the offensively challenged second unit of Patty Manu, KA, Bobo and DWest, oh there was a lot of passing and no scoring. This is the playoffs there should be no reason for :clawand :lma to ever both be out of the game at the same time, except for the case of a blowout. Instead of catching up to the Thunderefs they extended their lead, smh.

IT was also frustrating to see Bobo revert to Diaw 1.0. He had like 5 open looks and chose to pass the ball to predictable cuts that the Thunder Defense negated. One of the reasons why TBG worked so well in 2014 (with that particular assortment of players sans West and with Tiago) was because the wide open shots were always high efficient daggers. The strategy breaks down when the wide open looks generated by all that ball movement are passed up by reluctant shooters. SMH.

[midnightpulp]

Still fuckin' steaming this morning. I absolutely hate it when historically great play isn't rewarded with a win.

I love Kawhi. My favorite Spur of the coming post-Duncan generation, but he better come correct next game. 14 points on 7-18 shooting is just unacceptable in a key playoff home game for an MVP candidate in his prime.

[BillMc]

Bill for me the game was lost was when Westbrick went to the bench and was pouting but KD was still in and Pop decided to go with the offensively challenged second unit of Patty Manu, KA, Bobo and DWest, oh there was a lot of passing and no scoring. This is the playoffs there should be no reason for :clawand :lma to ever both be out of the game at the same time, except for the case of a blowout. Instead of catching up to the Thunderefs they extended their lead, smh.

Agree 100%. I almost wonder if Kawhi has injured his quad or hammy very slightly and Pop was limiting his minutes. But yeah that lineup was terrible. Hope to never see it again except for garbage time.

[spursistan]

Still fuckin' steaming this morning. I absolutely hate it when historically great play isn't rewarded with a win.

I love Kawhi. My favorite Spur of the coming post-Duncan generation, but he better come correct next game. 14 points on 7-18 shooting is just unacceptable in a key playoff home game for an MVP candidate in his prime.

it doesn't look good on him that the supposed playoff underperformer/choker/softie is putting the team on his back in his first season while an "MVP candidate" pulls a disapperance act when needed most for the second post-season in row..Folks bring those last 3 games of the 2014 Finals series as an example of Kawhi big game pedigree, but it was a actually more of a collective effort....even in Game 5 of the Finals, the series was headed back to Miami after a similarly dismal 1st quarter until old fart Manu willed us back into the game taking charges and dunking on fools..Kawhi still has some questions to answer when the going gets tough...

[midnightpulp]

it doesn't look good on him that the supposed playoff underperformer/choker/softie is putting the team on his back in his first season while an "MVP candidate" pulls a disapperance act when needed most for the second post-season in row..Folks bring those last 3 games of the 2014 Finals series as an example of Kawhi big game pedigree, but it was a actually more of a collective effort....even in Game 5 of the Finals, the series was headed back to Miami after a similarly dismal 1st quarter until old fart Manu willed us back into the game taking charges and dunking on fools..Kawhi still has some questions to answer when the going gets tough...

I've always been skeptical of the idea that Kawhi can turn into an elite offensive player. He has shown many flashes of eliteness, but then always seems to have a few mediocre follow up moments/games. His blind fans blame Pop, the system, Parker, etc, but Kevin Durant has little problem exploding for big points on great efficiency in one of the worst offensive systems in the NBA, in a lineup that doesn't really complement KD's overall skill set very well. Ibaka is a poor floor spacer (I know Serge can hit the 3, but he's not really a threat to go off like a real stretch 4). Adams doesn't space the floor at all. Robertson is non-factor. And Westbrook is prone to ballhogging.

The main issues that I think hold Kawhi back:

- Dribbling. He's improving. But he isn't as good as a KD or Lebron at creating a shot off the dribble. Kawhi usually needs to get the ball in his spots in the post or when he spots up behind the 3 point line. He's not bad at creating for himself, but he's not on the level of the league's elite scorers.

- Penetration. Again, shows flashes, and then will inexplicably abandon attacking the paint. Might be a confidence issue in his comparative lack of ball handling skills or speed. Kawhi has a few highlight dunks in traffic, but a player like Lebron routinely "dunks on fools" every game. With Kawhi, that's maybe a once in a 20 game event.

I still think he's a top 3 player in the league, because his all around game is so strong, but I'm not sure he's ready for offensive first option duties.

[BillMc]

I've always been skeptical of the idea that Kawhi can turn into an elite offensive player. He has shown many flashes of eliteness, but then always seems to have a few mediocre follow up moments/games. His blind fans blame Pop, the system, Parker, etc, but Kevin Durant has little problem exploding for big points on great efficiency in one of the worst offensive systems in the NBA, in a lineup that doesn't really complement KD's overall skill set very well. Ibaka is a poor floor spacer (I know Serge can hit the 3, but he's not really a threat to go off like a real stretch 4). Adams doesn't space the floor at all. Robertson is non-factor. And Westbrook is prone to ballhogging.

The main issues that I think hold Kawhi back:

- Dribbling. He's improving. But he isn't as good as a KD or Lebron at creating a shot off the dribble. Kawhi usually needs to get the ball in his spots in the post or when he spots up behind the 3 point line. He's not bad at creating for himself, but he's not on the level of the league's elite scorers.

- Penetration. Again, shows flashes, and then will inexplicably abandon attacking the paint. Might be a confidence issue in his comparative lack of ball handling skills or speed. Kawhi has a few highlight dunks in traffic, but a player like Lebron routinely "dunks on fools" every game. With Kawhi, that's maybe a once in a 20 game event.

I still think he's a top 3 player in the league, because his all around game is so strong, but I'm not sure he's ready for offensive first option duties.

Kawhi is the best player on our team because of his other-worldly defense, but in terms of being a natural scorer LMA may be better. Kawhi is an over-achiever that's improving all the time, but some guys are just scorers by nature. I think LMA is one of those.

But we should wait and see. Kawhi might be ready to uncork a masterpiece. :toast

[midnightpulp]

Kawhi is the best player on our team because of his other-worldly defense, but in terms of being a natural scorer LMA may be better. Kawhi is an over-achiever that's improving all the time, but some guys are just scorers by nature. I think LMA is one of those.

But we should wait and see. Kawhi might be ready to uncork a masterpiece. :toast

Indeed. And I've always supported the idea that Kawhi shouldn't carry an excessive offensive load because of the effect it would have on his defense, rebounding, etc.

Problem is now he's going to be forced into that. No possible way LMA continues this. And with the way the role players are shitting their pants, Kawhi is going to have to pick up what might be an unmanageable amount of slack.

Maybe I'm too cynical toward the role players, but the last 2 months have shown otherwise. Green, Patty, Parker, whomever, will have a great game, we all declare "He's back!" and then they follow up with 5 games in a row with 3-11, 2-7, 1-5 disappearing acts.

[BillMc]

Indeed. And I've always supported the idea that Kawhi shouldn't carry an excessive offensive load because of the effect it would have on his defense, rebounding, etc.

Problem is now he's going to be forced into that. No possible way LMA continues this. And with the way the role players are shitting their pants, Kawhi is going to have to pick up what might be an unmanageable amount of slack.

Maybe I'm too cynical toward the role players, but the last 2 months have shown otherwise. Green, Patty, Parker, whomever, will have a great game, we all declare "He's back!" and then they follow up with 5 games in a row with 3-11, 2-7, 1-5 disappearing acts.

Our most consistent role-players are Green (defensively) and Manu (offensively). Everyone else has shown flashes throughout the season. We really need a third scorer to rise up. Parker is best suited for that role but I'm not sure he still has it in him. Green can get hot but it will come and go as we know. Boris might pull a Horry but not in this series with all that OKC size.

Timmy, we need you man. Give us one more run.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Balls his ass off, still loses. Spurs will probably be ok to beat okc. Durant is gonna leave and it's blood in the water for the spurs. But game 2 is your preview of the warriors series, folks. Dude can ball like a winner, but the loss is coming. Black hole superstar sucks up stats that were meant for Kawhi, Diaw, Timmy. Doesn't create ball, just redistributes it. Socialist spurs-ball supreme.

[BillMc]

In a better world, we're celebrating this:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ChgY4DSXEAAjNey.jpg

[DrunkTXLabrat]

...oh and notice how the Blazers have a Curry injury shot at being the west finals opponent? getting rid of lame is better than getting lame.

[daslicer]

...oh and notice how the Blazers have a Curry injury shot at being the west finals opponent? getting rid of lame is better than getting lame.

I think the Blazers have no chance of winning this series even if Curry doesn't play. They are just not talented enough to beat GS. I feel GS would lose to Spurs,OKC, healthy Clippers team, and Cavs if they had to play without Curry but against average to mediocre teams they can still win without him.

[TheGreatYacht]

...oh and notice how the Blazers have a Curry injury shot at being the west finals opponent? getting rid of lame is better than getting lame.
Quit posting, and get some help :lol tbh

[midnightpulp]

Balls his ass off, still loses. Spurs will probably be ok to beat okc. Durant is gonna leave and it's blood in the water for the spurs. But game 2 is your preview of the warriors series, folks. Dude can ball like a winner, but the loss is coming. Black hole superstar sucks up stats that were meant for Kawhi, Diaw, Timmy. Doesn't create ball, just redistributes it. Socialist spurs-ball supreme.

There was no "black hole," dipshit. LMA played 43 minutes and took only 26 shots counting freethrow attempts. His 41 points came as a result of out-of-this-world efficiency, not ball dominant volume shooting.

But yeah, let's give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan who was 1-8 and couldn't solve Adams :lol

[midnightpulp]

Quit posting, and get some help :lol tbh

He's an incredibly terrible poster. LMA has made him look stupid, but he's too bull-headed to admit how massively wrong he was.

A "blackhole" taking 21 raw shot attempts in 43 minutes :lol

If anything, LMA didn't get enough shot attempts.

[daslicer]

There was no "black hole," dipshit. LMA played 43 minutes and took only 26 shots counting freethrow attempts. His 41 points came as a result of out-of-this-world efficiency, not ball dominant volume shooting.

But yeah, let's give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan who was 1-8 and couldn't solve Adams :lol

Just depressing how much Tim has fallen off. A year ago he would easily win this matchup.

[midnightpulp]

...oh and notice how the Blazers have a Curry injury shot at being the west finals opponent? getting rid of lame is better than getting lame.

No. The Blazers got a Chris Paul and Blake Griffin injury "shot" into the next round.

[HarlemHeat37]

He's been great, tbh, 2nd best big in the playoffs behind Draymond..

Spurs aren't winning a title with this Aldridge/Kawhi iso offense, though, unfortunately..it's fine vs. poor defensive teams, but I doubt it'll work vs. the Warriors or Cavs..

[midnightpulp]

He's been great, tbh, 2nd best big in the playoffs behind Draymond..

Spurs aren't winning a title with this Aldridge/Kawhi iso offense, though, unfortunately..it's fine vs. poor defensive teams, but I doubt it'll work vs. the Warriors or Cavs..

I don't think the iso-offense is by design, but by necessity. I think Pop and Co's idea with this roster build was that LMA and Kawhi would obviously be our 1-2 punch, while Tony, who got a 15ppg player level contract, was to be the 3rd wheel and offensive engine.

It's really tough to run a fluid offense when you don't have consistent penetration from your perimeter players. It's why the offense looks so much better with Manu running point. He can still decently penetrate and get the defense collapsing and rotating. Parker penetrates like once every 30 possessions now it seems.

[T Park]

He's been great, tbh, 2nd best big in the playoffs behind Draymond..

Spurs aren't winning a title with this Aldridge/Kawhi iso offense, though, unfortunately..it's fine vs. poor defensive teams, but I doubt it'll work vs. the Warriors or Cavs..

Yeah that offense was just shit in game 1

[BillMc]

If anything, LMA didn't get enough shot attempts.

This.

[T Park]

I don't think the iso-offense is by design, but by necessity. I think Pop and Co's idea with this roster build was that LMA and Kawhi would obviously be our 1-2 punch, while Tony, who got a 15ppg player level contract, was to be the 3rd wheel and offensive engine.

It's really tough to run a fluid offense when you don't have consistent penetration from your perimeter players. It's why the offense looks so much better with Manu running point. He can still decently penetrate and get the defense collapsing and rotating. Parker penetrates like once every 30 possessions now it seems.

The way the offense is supposed to work is how it worked in game 1, ISOs, mixed with ball movement.

That requires of course Kawhi Leonard to show up, however, he decided to take a sick day.

[midnightpulp]

Yeah that offense was just shit in game 1

The problem over the past 2 months is that the offense doesn't reach that Game 1 peak consistently enough. It generates looks, but when shooters can't knock down those looks at a decent clip, things go haywire. And we can't mitigate cold shooting with penetration, since the Spurs no longer have an elite penetrator due to Parker's decline and Kawhi's unconfidence in his dribble-drive game.

[BillMc]

He's been great, tbh, 2nd best big in the playoffs behind Draymond..

Spurs aren't winning a title with this Aldridge/Kawhi iso offense, though, unfortunately..it's fine vs. poor defensive teams, but I doubt it'll work vs. the Warriors or Cavs..

I think if we get to the Cavs we'll beat them. No way Love can guard LMA, but Kawhi and Danny will be good against LeBron and Irving.

[tmtcsc]

Yes - he was worth it. Fat talk was premature me thinks.

[BillMc]

Bitter-Sweet but still cool. A lot more post work than Game 1.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f14jEMDEsvQ

[NameLess Scrub]

I think if we get to the Cavs we'll beat them. No way Love can guard LMA, but Kawhi and Danny will be good against LeBron and Irving.

They can put Thompson on LMa though.. and if Timmy continues his current trend, they will be able to hide Love behind Timmy. That worries me, but then again is a long way to get to the Cavs yet.

About LMa, if the still had Twitter we could all go and thank him. He has scored like an old time superstar big man.

You can bet Shaq loves it :lol

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I think the Blazers have no chance of winning this series even if Curry doesn't play. They are just not talented enough to beat GS. I feel GS would lose to Spurs,OKC, healthy Clippers team, and Cavs if they had to play without Curry but against average to mediocre teams they can still win without him.

the Meyers Leonard injury was really unfortunate for them. i used to wish the spurs had a nose for talent like Aminu, Harkless, Crabbe, and Plumlee.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Quit posting, and get some help :lol tbh

see in your sig video where Towns misses the block. that's the difference between Sam Mitchell and a real coach. you're lucky the Twolves didn't hire Sam Cassell and Robert Horry.

[daslicer]

the Meyers Leonard injury was really unfortunate for them. i used to wish the spurs had a nose for talent like Aminu, Harkless, Crabbe, and Plumlee.

The Blazers overachieved this year and made some huge strides no doubt about it but they really shouldn't be in the second round when in reality they are really still a first round team at heart. Them advancing reminds me of the Sixers taking out the bulls in '12 due to Rose' injury. The Spurs definitely could use a big like Plumleee. This is off season they are going to have to find a way to get a young solid big that can be a defensive anchor.

[BillMc]

. He has scored like an old time superstar big man.

You can bet Shaq loves it :lol

:boboI loved it too.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

There was no "black hole," dipshit. LMA played 43 minutes and took only 26 shots counting freethrow attempts. His 41 points came as a result of out-of-this-world efficiency, not ball dominant volume shooting.

But yeah, let's give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan who was 1-8 and couldn't solve Adams :lol

[DrunkTXLabrat]

There was no "black hole," dipshit. LMA played 43 minutes and took only 26 shots counting freethrow attempts. His 41 points came as a result of out-of-this-world efficiency, not ball dominant volume shooting.

But yeah, let's give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan who was 1-8 and couldn't solve Adams :lol

take your pick

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Just depressing how much Tim has fallen off. A year ago he would easily win this matchup.

this. right track, wrong train.

[midnightpulp]

take your pick

Take my pick of what?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

He's an incredibly terrible poster. LMA has made him look stupid, but he's too bull-headed to admit how massively wrong he was.

A "blackhole" taking 21 raw shot attempts in 43 minutes :lol

If anything, LMA didn't get enough shot attempts.

CAN'T WAIT TO FUCKING JACK OFF AT THE RESULTS!

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Take my pick of what?

give more attempts to a 40 year old Duncan, or give more attempts to Duncan. "there was no "black hole," dipshit." either way.

[NameLess Scrub]

:boboI loved it too.


Definitely too. Just a pleasure to watch.

[TD 21]

I've always been skeptical of the idea that Kawhi can turn into an elite offensive player. He has shown many flashes of eliteness, but then always seems to have a few mediocre follow up moments/games. His blind fans blame Pop, the system, Parker, etc, but Kevin Durant has little problem exploding for big points on great efficiency in one of the worst offensive systems in the NBA, in a lineup that doesn't really complement KD's overall skill set very well. Ibaka is a poor floor spacer (I know Serge can hit the 3, but he's not really a threat to go off like a real stretch 4). Adams doesn't space the floor at all. Robertson is non-factor. And Westbrook is prone to ballhogging.

The main issues that I think hold Kawhi back:

- Dribbling. He's improving. But he isn't as good as a KD or Lebron at creating a shot off the dribble. Kawhi usually needs to get the ball in his spots in the post or when he spots up behind the 3 point line. He's not bad at creating for himself, but he's not on the level of the league's elite scorers.

- Penetration. Again, shows flashes, and then will inexplicably abandon attacking the paint. Might be a confidence issue in his comparative lack of ball handling skills or speed. Kawhi has a few highlight dunks in traffic, but a player like Lebron routinely "dunks on fools" every game. With Kawhi, that's maybe a once in a 20 game event.

I still think he's a top 3 player in the league, because his all around game is so strong, but I'm not sure he's ready for offensive first option duties.

:tu

I'd add vision, too. The reality is, he doesn't make his teammates better offensively. Aldridge doesn't either, but it's exacerbated by him being a perimeter player and this team no longer having someone who consistently can.

Vision and the mindset to make others better, is something that can be incrementally improved through coaching, experience, film, etc., but for the most part, it's innate.

Going forward, if they think they can get by with him incrementally improving, another year older Parker and some combination of Anderson/Simmons, they're not getting past the 2nd round.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

The Blazers overachieved this year and made some huge strides no doubt about it but they really shouldn't be in the second round when in reality they are really still a first round team at heart. Them advancing reminds me of the Sixers taking out the bulls in '12 due to Rose' injury. The Spurs definitely could use a big like Plumleee. This is off season they are going to have to find a way to get a young solid big that can be a defensive anchor.

the blazers might have beat the clippers without the Paul and Griffin injuries. Just the same as they might have beat the spurs, if they'd dropped a few games for the 1st round matchup. dropping lame was genius!

[Kawhitstorm]

Our most consistent role-players are Green (defensively) and Manu (offensively). Everyone else has shown flashes throughout the season. We really need a third scorer to rise up. Parker is best suited for that role but I'm not sure he still has it in him. Green can get hot but it will come and go as we know. Boris might pull a Horry but not in this series with all that OKC size.

Timmy, we need you man. Give us one more run.

If Tim makes his layups then OKC won't be able to ICE the PnRs thus they will be forced to choose their poison. There is really no excuse for CONSISTENTLY missing point blank layups when you are a professional basketball player, for god sakes use the freaking glass ala Tiago instead of try to lay it in or shoot floaters on your tippy toes.

I feel like he's still driving into the lane as if he has ONE good knee thus he needs to re-calibrate his shot for TWO shot knees.


They can put Thompson on LMa though.. and if Timmy continues his current trend, they will be able to hide Love behind Timmy. That worries me, but then again is a long way to get to the Cavs yet.

You're looking too far ahead but Diaw would get the majority of the playing time against Love especially since Love is usually camping at the 3 point line thus offensive rebounding wouldn't be such a big issue. Tim would be probably start on Tristan & LMA on Love.

[spursistan]

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Somebody is going to have to nut up these two games in OKC, because the only way is down for LMA..he can't possibly keep this up..:wow

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao for the 2nd straight year the idiots on this forum question Harlem for bashing on one of their beloved players..

Last year, it was seeing Parker's decline in November, while 90% of the forum wanted APO and I banned for speaking the truth..it took them until the playoffs to realize they were wrong..

This year, we have one of the longest threads in the history of this forum, full of homers that had the audacity to continuously bump this thread because this nigga showed up for a bunch of regular season teams and 2 home playoff games :lmao

He's Lamarcus Loser, Carmelo Aldridge..a mid range chucker that shrivels up at the first sign of pressure..the Spurs committed their future to this fucking pussy :lmao:lmao:lmao

[timtonymanu]

:lol people bumping this thread against shitty regular season teams that he feasts on

It's why Harlem is one of the best posters.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao missing 2 wide open jump shots in clutch time :lmao

:lmao mediocre in games 3 and 4 :lmao

:lmao 6/21 in the biggest game of his career :lmao

:lmao committing your future to this soft pussy and all the homers eating it up:lmao

:lmao having the audacity to say he's the best big in the NBA or better than Draymond Green :lmao:lmao:lmao

[Floyd Pacquiao]

This nigga was bricking fucking open free-throw jumpers what the fucc

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lmao for the 2nd straight year the idiots on this forum question Harlem for bashing on one of their beloved players..

Last year, it was seeing Parker's decline in November, while 90% of the forum wanted APO and I banned for speaking the truth..it took them until the playoffs to realize they were wrong..

This year, we have one of the longest threads in the history of this forum, full of homers that had the audacity to continuously bump this thread because this nigga showed up for a bunch of regular season teams and 2 home playoff games :lmao

He's Lamarcus Loser, Carmelo Aldridge..a mid range chucker that shrivels up at the first sign of pressure..the Spurs committed their future to this fucking pussy :lmao:lmao:lmao
This plus your <) Westbrook thread are looking good, homie. Educate these boys

[Agloco]

But just two weeks ago you admitted to this pile of steaming shit.

Way to equivocate.

[Silver&Black]

Yeah, we should have kept Splitter.

[midnightpulp]

The bench is the real problem with this team. Krew favorites Manure, Fat Ass, and Patty House have been absolutely non-existent. How do you fucking score only 11 points on 18 shots?

[HarlemHeat37]

The only difference between this year's Spurs team and last year's is Aldridge, unless you think Splitter and Joseph are the reason Green went from a 40%+ 3 shooter to a player that can't make anything anymore:lol..

The current Spurs team is clearly fool's gold..easy schedule + other expected contenders starting slow + they have been carried by Kawhi playing like the 2nd best player in the NBA, and Parker playing at the same level he did last November, which isn't going to last, clearly..

Green being unable to make 3s makes him unplayable, he becomes Andre Roberson, which is useless in today's NBA..that leaves Mills as the only shooter on the roster, and it forces the Spurs to over-use Manu, along with expecting inexperienced players like Anderson and Simmons to give playoff minutes(which doesn't work in the NBA, they'll both foul out in 5 minutes with the way refs treat unknown guys)..

They essentially killed their style of play/rotation to become a mid-range 2 shooting team that no longer has any depth on the perimeter, and is relying heavily on 2 ancient players to dominate(Parker/Ginobili)..

Man, this nigga Harlem.man..

[LkrFan]

:corn:

[HarlemHeat37]

Yeah, we should have kept Splitter.

I literally never said the Spurs should keep Splitter:lol..


Spurs should have never committed a long term deal to big man Carmelo..

[timtonymanu]

Man, this nigga Harlem.man..

At the very least, Green still looks solid.

[HarlemHeat37]

I fucking told you idiots :lol

:lmao

[TD 21]

Man, this nigga Harlem.man..

Didn't you predict Spurs in five? Didn't you say 1-2 days ago that Aldridge was a "great player, top 10-15"?

Shtick/trolling or not, you're one of the most knowledgeable posters on the site, but you're too prisoner of the moment.

[HarlemHeat37]

At the very least, Green still looks solid.

Half the idiots on this forum(many of them in this thread) want to trade a proven winner like Danny Green or bench him for some nigga named Simmons, while they are fucking making threads apologizing to a proven loser like Aldridge for joining the Spurs:lol

[midnightpulp]

Man, this nigga Harlem.man..

But the starters beat OKC's by 5 points, and LMA more or less equalized Durant in points and efficiency for this game.

I don't see how it's "LMA's fault" when that fuckin' shitty, putrid, garbage ass bench outscores Dion Waiters by 2 points on 13 more shots.

The bench totally disappearing over the past 3 months has nothing to do with LMA. Mills, Fat Ass, and West are mental midgets, and Manu is obviously primed for the retirement home.

[HarlemHeat37]

Didn't you predict Spurs in five? Didn't you say 1-2 days ago that Aldridge was a "great player, top 10-15"?

Shtick/trolling or not, you're one of the most knowledgeable posters on the site, but you're too prisoner of the moment.

Yes, I picked the Spurs, they were heavy favs for a reason..this Thunder team isn't very good, it speaks more on Aldridge and the Spurs that they can't beat a team that doesn't play defense and has 5 NBA-caliber players..

[midnightpulp]

Yes, I picked the Spurs, they were heavy favs for a reason..this Thunder team isn't very good, it speaks more on Aldridge and the Spurs that they can't beat a team that doesn't play defense and has 5 NBA-caliber players..

So the bench gets a pass?

I get it, though. They're composed of Crew favorites Boris, "MVPatty," and Manu. :tu

I just don't see how blaming LMA holds water here when the bench can barely outscore Dion fuckin' Waiters on 13 more shots. Does LMA deserve blame for 6-21. Sure. But there's much bigger problems with this team that are worth mentioning.

Also, your whole premise for this thread was concern over how LMA is affecting Green. Green has looked like the Green of old in the playoffs thus far, so he was obviously "worth it" in that respect.

It's the bench. Has been for the past 3 months.

[TD 21]

Yes, I picked the Spurs, they were heavy favs for a reason..this Thunder team isn't very good, it speaks more on Aldridge and the Spurs that they can't beat a team that doesn't play defense and has 5 NBA-caliber players..

They shouldn't have been. They should have been slight favorites and only because of home court. They were an overrated team, that's been trending down since late March. Even before then, you could see the bottom falling out on the veterans and a devolution into a top heavy team, without a transcendent player.

This has little to do with Aldridge, who's performance is mostly attributable to law of averages.

[Capt Bringdown]

He hasn't been the same since the injury. And the bench let us down again.

However, if you're a champion, you make those shots he missed in the 4th.
Horry would have hit that shit, FOR SURE.

[HarlemHeat37]

So the bench gets a pass?

I get it, though. They're composed of Crew favorites Boris, "MVPatty," and Manu. :tu

I just don't see how blaming LMA holds water here when the bench can barely outscore Dion fuckin' Waiters on 13 more shots. Does LMA deserve blame for 6-21. Sure. But there's much bigger problems with this team that are worth mentioning.

Also, your whole premise for this thread was concern over how LMA is affecting Green. Green has looked like the Green of old in the playoffs thus far, so he was obviously "worth it" in that respect.

It's the bench. Has been for the past 3 months.

I didn't give the bench a pass..

They gutted the team and changed the system to build it around Aldridge..he's playing against a below average defensive team, and he was mediocre in games 3 and 4, and was horrendous in the biggest game of his career..more importantly , he missed 2 wide open jump shots in clutch time that could have changed the game

When you're losing these games by a few possessions and one of the star players struggles, he deserves the blame..unfortunately, Aldridge routinely doesn't show up in the biggest games..he's Carmelo Anthony , he will give you a few hot games of shooting, but don't expect him to show up in the big ones..

[ElNono]

My fears realized... softridge

At least Tim gave us 5 rings, tbh...

[timtonymanu]

Aldridge got an 80 million dollar contract from the Spurs. He shit the bed tonight like Kawhi in Game 2 (no one defended Kawhi that game). Aldridge deservedly gets part of the blame. The bench are bench players for a reason.

[313]

The alternative was Splitter, who would be in a suit right now. If we didn't have Aldridge, who would be the starting PF rn? West, probably.

[bklynspursfan]

We'll see on Thursday.

[timtonymanu]

The alternative was Splitter, who would be in a suit right now. If we didn't have Aldridge, who would be the starting PF rn? West, probably.

Again, no one is saying they want Splitter instead. But funny how LMA dodges criticism (even Kawhi gets shit on here more), and I'm just laughing at all the premature bumps on this thread when Aldridge was feasting on teams like Brooklyn and the 76ers

[313]

Again, no one is saying they want Splitter instead. But funny how LMA dodges criticism (even Kawhi gets shit on here more), and I'm just laughing at all the premature bumps on this thread when Aldridge was feasting on teams like Brooklyn and the 76ers
Most of it was out of spite to Harlem :lol

He deserves blame for tonight though, I agree.

[HarlemHeat37]

Man, if only OKC had Terrence Jones:(

[midnightpulp]

I didn't give the bench a pass..

They gutted the team and changed the system to build it around Aldridge..he's playing against a below average defensive team, and he was mediocre in games 3 and 4, and was horrendous in the biggest game of his career..more importantly , he missed 2 wide open jump shots in clutch time that could have changed the game

When you're losing these games by a few possessions and one of the star players struggles, he deserves the blame..unfortunately, Aldridge routinely doesn't show up in the biggest games..he's Carmelo Anthony , he will give you a few hot games of shooting, but don't expect him to show up in the big ones..

How did they gut the team? Splitter was no big loss. We all hated Marco last year, since putting him in was a guaranteed run for the other team. Boban is no different than Baynes. The only "loss" was Joseph, but the FO chose Patty House over him anyway after Patty went off in 2014. Also worth mentioning is that the system changed to suit Kawhi's midrange/midpost oriented game, as well.

Westbrook has been struggling all series, so how come the Thunder can fade .333 shooting (over the series) from Westbrook, while we basically need Kawhi and LMA to play perfect basketball?

Our starters beat their starters by 5. What happened to the days when the bench was a guaranteed 20 to 30 points per game?

LMA is a net positive addition to the team in the long run. You're being too results oriented here. I understand he should've stepped up, but LMA is a 2nd tier star, and he's basically playing like one (big game here, mediocre game here, good game here). There's only a few superstars in the league who can step up nearly every game with big performances.

[skut_farkus]

Man, if only OKC had Terrence Jones:(

The human chair!

[TD 21]

I didn't give the bench a pass..

They gutted the team and changed the system to build it around Aldridge..he's playing against a below average defensive team, and he was mediocre in games 3 and 4, and was horrendous in the biggest game of his career..more importantly , he missed 2 wide open jump shots in clutch time that could have changed the game

When you're losing these games by a few possessions and one of the star players struggles, he deserves the blame..unfortunately, Aldridge routinely doesn't show up in the biggest games..he's Carmelo Anthony , he will give you a few hot games of shooting, but don't expect him to show up in the big ones..

This team is trash right now outside of Leonard, Aldridge, Green and the games Parker somewhat turns back the clock. They were never going to out star the other four elite teams, their only chance was to out depth them. Once the bottom fell out on the veterans, it was over.

:lol A crippled Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph (the best of the bunch at the moment, but mostly a non rotation player on this team), qualifies as gutted? Surely even you would trade them for Aldridge.

No matter what you think of him, they weren't doing better in free agency and if they didn't have him, the future would be Mr. Tunnel Vision, Green and what exactly?

Those two jumpers were killers, but it's basketball; it happens. Maybe he is a choker and soft, but it's too soon to throw that around after 1 season on a credible team.

[sexinthatsx]

This team is trash right now outside of Leonard, Aldridge, Green and the games Parker somewhat turns back the clock. They were never going to out star the other four elite teams, their only chance was to out depth them. Once the bottom fell out on the veterans, it was over.

:lol A crippled Splitter, Belinelli, Baynes and Joseph (the best of the bunch at the moment, but mostly a non rotation player on this team), qualifies as gutted? Surely even you would trade them for Aldridge.

No matter what you think of him, they weren't doing better in free agency and if they didn't have him, the future would be Mr. Tunnel Vision, Green and what exactly?

Those two jumpers were killers, but it's basketball; it happens. Maybe he is a choker and soft, but it's too soon to throw that around after 1 season on a credible team.

I mean to be fair the Heatles lost in their first year of formation before winning back to back. I think the Spurs did a great job integrating LMA into the offense and defense, but I think the Spurs can only grow from here. The acquisition of LMA gave Spurs fans a lot of hope that they could win, but the reality is that it's tough to fit any player into a team and expect the same output

[Gummi Clutch]

:lmao
still haven't proven me wrong breh. I'll show you.

[Kawhitstorm]

He's Lamarcus Loser, Carmelo Aldridge..a mid range chucker that shrivels up at the first sign of pressure..the Spurs committed their future to this fucking pussy :lmao:lmao:lmao

He's more like Klay Thompson against legit defenders.:lol (Dude is 3rd wheel material)

Melo could actually get to the line when his shot isn't falling & doesn't shy away from physicality along w/ being a very good rebounder for his position. He also can pass out of double teams when he isn't being a blackhole.

[Silver&Black]

I literally never said the Spurs should keep Splitter:lol..

Spurs should have never committed a long term deal to big man Carmelo..

Okay then. Well when you say we shouldn't get LMA....I (and I don't think I'm the only one) assume you want to stay put and keep Splitter. I just remember being a very mediocre team last year. We finished with the 6th Seed and got bounced in the 1st round. There is a whole lot more I need to know from you other than you don't think LMA was "worth it". Did you want some other free agent? Keep Splitter? Stay put? Explain what you wanted the front office to do besides not get LMA........

I'm not trying to take up for LMA...he played like shit yesterday. No other way you can put it. And you're well within your rights if you want to take a wet shit on him for it.

[dg7md]

I'm not gonna defend LMA like he's the greatest signing of all time, but where would we be if not for his performances in Game 1 and 2? We'd have been swept and it's doubtful we even have homecourt for this series (well, had).

You guys are placing the blame towards him when it's more than that. The team is collectively just not playing well in the fourth. Shots aren't falling and bad plays are being called. Tony does heroball, David West chucks up some bad shots, and Kawhi isn't being as aggressive as I know he can be. The whole team is to blame for this not just LMA. They're older, they're tired, they're overwhelmed — OKC wants it more, we're fine resting on our laurels and banners but all OKC has is a 2012 Western Conference Champions banner to show for their great team.

[spurraider21]

Spurs should have never committed a long term deal to big man Carmelo..
bro, stop :lol... ur becoming hedger

besides, you've already "taken the L" on this thread, and now you're going back and saying you were wrong about being wrong? :lol

Obviously Aldridge over Splitter is a no-brainer, and you don't turn down a player of Aldridge's caliber in his prime, even if he's the big man Iverson and a soft jump-shooter(which he is)..


I don't hate Aldridge, tbh, I was just questioning whether it was worth it to change a successful system for him..

He has responded well, lately, though, it's what we have been waiting for..I was really excited to get him and thought the Spurs' run would be over without him, although I admit I'm not a fan of his game, he's the big man Carmelo..being in a Spurs jersey seems to have changed his mentality, fortunately..becoming a winner, rather than the player that cried because Lillard had billboards in Portland:lol..


:lol nobody said it was a terrible signing, nobody said anything about Splitter..I was and am 100% in favor of signing Aldridge, despite not being a fan of his game..people are reading the thread title and forming that conclusion..

The question is whether changing the system was worth it for a player that the Spurs have treated like a glorified role player(Aldridge), so far, and potentially at the expense of Green, when you just signed both Aldridge and Green to long-term deals.. it's a long-term question just as much as a question for this year..

[spurraider21]

every post is hedging :rollin

:cry i never said we shouldn't sign him, but he sucks :cry

when the thread looks wrong... "bro i always said we should sign him"
when aldridge plays poorly.... "bro i always said it wasn't worth big man carmelo"

[DrunkTXLabrat]

you watch Tim Duncan go from near 40 all star to "Peyton Manning."

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Tristan Thompson and Cory Joseph was the alternative. Draymond Green was the red carpet long shot. Middleton with Boban and Livio woulda done.

[Gummi Clutch]

I'm going to bump this. HH is complaining for the sake of attention. Criticizing this signing is stupid.

[DeadlyDynasty]

I'm going to bump this. HH is complaining for the sake of attention. Criticizing this signing is stupid.
Thanks for the declaration, it was already on page 1.

All the past criticisms of LMA are rearing their ugly head right now. If he can't lead the Spurs out of the WCSF against a vastly inferior team then was he really worth it?

[DPG21920]

Thanks for the declaration, it was already on page 1.

All the past criticisms of LMA are rearing their ugly head right now. If he can't lead the Spurs out of the WCSF against a vastly inferior team then was he really worth it?

Vastly inferior? Come on. SA definitely better and OKC has flaws, but so does SA. OKC is a finals-level worthy opponent in the 2nd round. Spurs were and should have been solid favorites, but let's quit acting like OKC was some push over my man.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Vastly inferior? Come on. SA definitely better and OKC has flaws, but so does SA. OKC is a finals-level worthy opponent in the 2nd round. Spurs were and should have been solid favorites, but let's quit acting like OKC was some push over my man.
They're not a push-over (much like a healthy Clips team wouldn't have been for GSW), but they're not finals-level and are clearly a tier below GSW and SA--at least we all thought so. Deeps, it'd be one thing if OKC was actually playing good, smart basketball--but they've been just as clumsy down the stretch of games and have been shooting like shit. They're best is nowhere near the Spurs' best. This ain't trolling dude, going into this series I thought SA would wipe the walls with them...I'm still dumbfounded at what's transpired in the last 4 games

[DPG21920]

Me too with how it's happened, but in the end they are a good team. Spurs should have ended this already, but just not hitting enough shots & getting frustrated with officials.

[tholdren]

Me too with how it's happened, but in the end they are a good team. Spurs should have ended this already, but just not hitting enough shots & getting frustrated with officials.
Not hitting jumpers, so they keep taking jumpers? Brilliant.

[DPG21920]

Not hitting jumpers, so they keep taking jumpers? Brilliant.

My friend, they are pretty open shots & also, they are killing points in the paint. It's not like they are settling.

[tholdren]

My friend, they are pretty open shots & also, they are killing points in the paint. It's not like they are settling.
And that's the problem. Spurs need to go get some contact. West and LMA and KL taking an open 12-15 footer is doing nothing, make or miss. They have to attack the basket. Spurs best hope is they get to the line and draw fouls on the bigs. Shooting open jumpers got spurs where they are. Have to put pressure on their bigs.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Me too with how it's happened, but in the end they are a good team. Spurs should have ended this already, but just not hitting enough shots & getting frustrated with officials.
Agreed, they are a bitch of a draw for a 2nd-rd matchup and play with a ton of heart, but SA is just flat out shitting the bed against them. Fair or not, Aldridge (and his past choking demons) will be under the microscope if they lose to OKC. Nobody would talk shit if he came up short against GSW because you'd be expected to lose--but losing and coming up short in the clutch against teams you should beat is awfully David Robinsonny

[timtonymanu]

I'm still pretty sour about Softdridge. Those two missed late shots in the 4th were inexcusable. Spurs desperately need another scoring option if Aldridge is gonna disappear down the stretch. Kawhi would have been crucified on here if he was in that situation

[tholdren]

I'm still pretty sour about Softdridge. Those two missed late shots in the 4th were inexcusable. Spurs desperately need another scoring option if Aldridge is gonna disappear down the stretch.
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[Slippy]

Agreed, they are a bitch of a draw for a 2nd-rd matchup and play with a ton of heart, but SA is just flat out shitting the bed against them. Fair or not, Aldridge (and his past choking demons) will be under the microscope if they lose to OKC. Nobody would talk shit if he came up short against GSW because you'd be expected to lose--but losing and coming up short in the clutch against teams you should beat is awfully David Robinsonny

really? espn had cool stat of some sort. went something like this . game 5 was the first time in the big 3 era since may 1996 (tim,manu & tone) that 3 spurs had 20 points in a play-off and none of the big 3 was involved.

The spurs with 20+ points then were DROb, Avery Johnson and Vinny Delnegro.

My point being and a little perspective, Jonathan Simmons who currently can't even crack the team would be a definite starter in place of Delnegro if the supporting casts were reversed.

[Nbadan]

Of course Aldridge was worth it.....makes the Spurs top 5 in the NBA...

[Mnky]

He's been playing the entire front court of the thunder alone tbh. I think he's been awesome. Definitely miss those 2 shots in the 4th he should have made. If he had a legit bit man next to him, things would look much different. The decline of Tim manu and Tony has been too much for the size of roles they play and pop doesn't replace them. I can't be mad at Kawhi or aldridge. They've played great in my opinion. We will see what Thursday brings.

[Gummi Clutch]

Thanks for the declaration, it was already on page 1.

All the past criticisms of LMA are rearing their ugly head right now. If he can't lead the Spurs out of the WCSF against a vastly inferior team then was he really worth it?
did you have an aneurysm? :lmao

[emanueldavidginobili]

2-11 in he last three games in the 4th quarter....crazy

[HarlemHeat37]

I was fine with the Aldridge signing as a 2nd or 3rd guy in the system, as a 3-point shooting stretch big that fits in to what the Spurs already do..

Now, some of you will say that you can't play the same style with a declining Parker and Ginobili, which is true, but that's on RC Buford and Pop more than anything..some of you will stupidly claim that you can't build around Kawhi in the same system, but the Spurs did it last year and had a top 3 team in the NBA when healthy, statistically..

Building your entire offense around a career loser, a volume scoring, inefficient big that routinely chokes in the playoffs is going to set the team back for years, especially since they won't move away from Parker..you hurt your best role player that you just signed to a long-term deal, gutted the bench, and became easily guardable vs. playoff defenses, even against a mediocre defensive team like OKC..

Carmelo Aldridge is one of the biggest playoff chokers in the NBA, as many of us have repeated, all season..he will give you a couple of hot games in the playoffs vs. mediocre defenses, but he won't show up when it matters..he's a poor passer, an average defensive player and an OK rebounder..mentally, he's one of the softest big men I have ever seen..

The audacity of the posters in this thread to cite the Spurs' record in the weakest Western Conference in 20 years:lol

[midnightpulp]

Kawhi shouldn't be a first option either, though. Like I've said, and was right about, his midpost/midrange Kobe style game is antiquated shit from the 90's that is just as easy to defend as LMA's game.

The only reason Kobe won titles playing like that is because he had giant frontlines that could clean up his misses.

We need a first option on this team, a relatively quick penetrator who can also play make and stress defenses off the dribble, like, say, Kevin Durant.

[K...]

We all knew he wasn't the saviour. We need a strong center and a slashy guard. That's possible,, whereas we could have kept splitter and cojo. You want to imagine that scenario?

I feel you Harlem,, you saw this collapse. But you failing opportunity cost. Signing lma was better than standing pat, and building from kawhi, Aldridge is easier than kawhi and trash.


It's not the worst, not the best. Given the contracts and the cap it's not even a true max contract.

[HarlemHeat37]

We all knew he wasn't the saviour. We need a strong center and a slashy guard. That's possible,, whereas we could have kept splitter and cojo. You want to imagine that scenario?

I feel you Harlem,, you saw this collapse. But you failing opportunity cost. Signing lma was better than standing pat, and building from kawhi, Aldridge is easier than kawhi and trash.


It's not the worst, not the best. Given the contracts and the cap it's not even a true max contract.

I was in favor of signing Aldridge as a piece, not as a building block..I was annoyed when they were essentially begging him to join, though, as I said in the off-season thread, he's not good enough to salivate over..

I don't mind the signing in a vacuum..however, if you still have Parker and Ginobili on the roster, if you just signed Danny Green to a deal, if you still have Mills/Diaw/etc, why deviate from what made them successful in favor of building an entire offense around a career, inefficient choker that will 100% let you down when the pressure is high?

[midnightpulp]

I was in favor of signing Aldridge as a piece, not as a building block..I was annoyed when they were essentially begging him to join, though, as I said in the off-season thread, he's not good enough to salivate over..

I don't mind the signing in a vacuum..however, if you still have Parker and Ginobili on the roster, if you just signed Danny Green to a deal, if you still have Mills/Diaw/etc, why deviate from what made them successful in favor of building an entire offense around a career, inefficient choker that will 100% let you down when the pressure is high?

Because our primary "building block" couldn't solve Matt Barnes for 3 straight games in last year's playoffs.

You're going to have to let go of the idea that Kawhi is a legit first option offensive superstar. He has a relatively poor dribble-drive and off the dribble game. He needs every thing in the post or off mid-range curls. His offensive game has no balance (equal penetration + equal jumpshooting). It's all jumper, jumper, jumper, jumper.

I agree the offense shouldn't be centered around LMA, but you neglected to mention that the offense was forced to go that route because all the role players seemed to massively decline right at the same time, so we became top heavy by necessity.

[HarlemHeat37]

Two of the Spurs top three scorers being playoff choke artists(Parker and LMA) has me very worried about the current team's chances in the postseason.

One of the best posters in ST history, tbh..rarely wrong, miss his insight..

[HarlemHeat37]

I've been saying the Spurs aren't as good as their record for a while:lol

Fool's Gold, regular season team, tbh..losing to a terribly flawed OKC team that went 21-17 vs. +.500 teams and had a bottom-10 D in the NBA vs. those teams:lol..2nd biggest upset of the Duncan era..

[HarlemHeat37]

OP is a known commodity around here for bad basketball takes. Par for the course. Then uses Alts to agree with himself. A little sociopathic...

OMG OMG OMG

[dg7md]

Fool's Gold, regular season team, tbh..losing to a terribly flawed OKC team that went 21-17 vs. +.500 teams and had a bottom-10 D in the NBA vs. those teams:lol..2nd biggest upset of the Duncan era..

Thunder always had our number. Always. We were always a terrible matchup for them. Still shocked we got by them in 2014.

[HarlemHeat37]

ClearROFLy

Yes, clearly, you fucking parrot:lmao

[DarrinS]

Only Spurs in double figures:

Kawhi
LMA
Tim

almost Green


Smh

[Timothy21]

is a loser... RS is another sport... stop

[HarlemHeat37]

Was this the death of Harlem?

OMG who is this poster? :lol

[tholdren]

I was fine with the Aldridge signing as a 2nd or 3rd guy in the system, as a 3-point shooting stretch big that fits in to what the Spurs already do..

Now, some of you will say that you can't play the same style with a declining Parker and Ginobili, which is true, but that's on RC Buford and Pop more than anything..some of you will stupidly claim that you can't build around Kawhi in the same system, but the Spurs did it last year and had a top 3 team in the NBA when healthy, statistically..

Building your entire offense around a career loser, a volume scoring, inefficient big that routinely chokes in the playoffs is going to set the team back for years, especially since they won't move away from Parker..you hurt your best role player that you just signed to a long-term deal, gutted the bench, and became easily guardable vs. playoff defenses, even against a mediocre defensive team like OKC..

Carmelo Aldridge is one of the biggest playoff chokers in the NBA, as many of us have repeated, all season..he will give you a couple of hot games in the playoffs vs. mediocre defenses, but he won't show up when it matters..he's a poor passer, an average defensive player and an OK rebounder..mentally, he's one of the softest big men I have ever seen..

The audacity of the posters in this thread to cite the Spurs' record in the weakest Western Conference in 20 years:lol

LOL signing a max player to be a 2-3 when you already have a 3-4 option max player. What the hell? KL is every bit of a choking POS as LMA. Poorly assembled PLAYOFF TEAM. That's a fact. Why? NO HALF COURT SCORING, NO HUSTLE PLAYERS, NO PENETRATING OFFENSIVE PLAYERS.

[tholdren]

OMG who is this poster? :lol
Probably your gay avatar

[HarlemHeat37]

It isn't a horrible take, at least not yet..Aldridge has been the 5th best player on the team, so far, and his real value will be tested in the playoffs..

:lol Who the hell is KingSlayer? a NLS alt?

[jimbo]

:wakeup

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I was in favor of signing Aldridge as a piece, not as a building block..I was annoyed when they were essentially begging him to join, though, as I said in the off-season thread, he's not good enough to salivate over..

I don't mind the signing in a vacuum..however, if you still have Parker and Ginobili on the roster, if you just signed Danny Green to a deal, if you still have Mills/Diaw/etc, why deviate from what made them successful in favor of building an entire offense around a career, inefficient choker that will 100% let you down when the pressure is high?

the spurs just don't get it. Pops name is so appropriate because he has such a hard on for Dirk style pick and pop bigs. He didn't appreciate Splitter enough. Splitter was injury prone and didn't throw down ally oops, but he could roll and finish like a motha fucka and it had a major impact. Now the spurs bigs just put up scary shots and scarier passes, and they look like bullies pushing to grab all their bricks. i bet Danny Greens shot out of the pick and roll offense was more accurate during the championship season, with healthy Splitter, than it was this season with lame. i bet Parkers pull up was better too.

[HarlemHeat37]

Please stop posting.

OMG:lmao

(this quote was a reply to my post saying the Spurs are fool's gold)

[HarlemHeat37]

:lmao LMAlpha taking a shit on Spurstalk short bussers :lmao

Ugh, I wish, tbh..

[HarlemHeat37]

Wow. What a terrible take.

:lmao Kerr should sit Curry

[dabom]

Come on man. You admitted you were 100% wrong and then bump this 2 days ago. LMA and Green showed up this series.

[HarlemHeat37]

The best part is that this kneejerk overreaction thread basically seals any chance Harlem ever had of being a decent poster again.

wow..wow..wow..

[skut_farkus]

Is his twitter reactivated yet? I haven't checked today

[Mnky]

Come on man. You admitted you were 100% wrong and then bump this 2 days ago. LMA and Green showed up this series.

I agree. Both played very well. Green played exceptional on defense, Durant made some incredible shots. LMA was taking on the best big man rotation in the league on his own and was still sprinting down the court in the 4th. If pop brought in Boban earlier, we might have spared lma some life. That guy battled this series though. Him and Kawhi played great, and green wasn't too far behind. The rest of the team needs to be reevaluated.

[weeks]

Well at least the Krew has something to be happy about.

I hope we can get some more parts around Aldridge and Kawhi. Those two alone aren't gonna cut it.

[houston spurs fan]

OMG OMG OMG
Product of no mother tbh. Obvious bitch.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

He was absolutely worth it.

[houston spurs fan]

I was in favor of signing Aldridge as a piece, not as a building block..I was annoyed when they were essentially begging him to join, though, as I said in the off-season thread, he's not good enough to salivate over..

I don't mind the signing in a vacuum..however, if you still have Parker and Ginobili on the roster, if you just signed Danny Green to a deal, if you still have Mills/Diaw/etc, why deviate from what made them successful in favor of building an entire offense around a career, inefficient choker that will 100% let you down when the pressure is high?
This bitch has been rooting against us all year just to prove a point. Get the fuck out you bastard.

[vander]

When Aldridge scored 42 and the Spurs couldn't get the win, the series was basically over

[Harry Callahan]

We would still be playing if the other guys nutted up in Game 2. LMA was the best player on the floor that game. The rest of the Spurs were not engaged enough. That was the beginning of the end.

LMA was absolutely worth it. The Spurs have two of the top 25 players in the NBA going into next year and they are both in or entering their prime. The "other guys" have to be upgraded.

[UZER]

Yes, but Duncan crowded his space all season.

[Kawhitstorm]

Because our primary "building block" couldn't solve Matt Barnes for 3 straight games in last year's playoffs.

You're going to have to let go of the idea that Kawhi is a legit first option offensive superstar. He has a relatively poor dribble-drive and off the dribble game. He needs every thing in the post or off mid-range curls. His offensive game has no balance (equal penetration + equal jumpshooting). It's all jumper, jumper, jumper, jumper.

Kawhi is the type of guy you feature in a laissez-faire offense not a guy you give the rock to & ask him to carry you like Harden. The perfect team for Kawhi is the mid 2000s Pistons, replace Prince w/ Kawhi & they would have been a dynasty. Otherwise, he has to play the Pippen role in a 90s type isolation heavy offense but LMA ain't no Jordan or even Dirk for that matter.


I agree the offense shouldn't be centered around LMA, but you neglected to mention that the offense was forced to go that route because all the role players seemed to massively decline right at the same time, so we became top heavy by necessity.

That is partly true but had Marc Gasol signed the offense would still be free flowing to an extent & the defense would be much better:


As far as LMA, I've always said Gasol would be a better fit (which you (HarlemHeat37) (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=11597) vehemently disagreed) b/c he can affect the game on BOTH ends without scoring. He would have been an oversized version of Diaw & the offense wouldn't have needed to be isolation heavy although Porker's decline required it to a certain extent.

[Ditty]

Would like to see Aldridge come in much better shape next season though. I thought he was fine this season. Would be nice to get a big man, that can rebound well next to him if Duncan doesn't come back (Pau?) I really think Aldridge, and Kawhi will continue living up to that one two punch next season with another season in the system and no offseason contract issues for him.

[DPG21920]

He was worth it. If the bench played a little better or a few calls go SA's way or a few starters hit some shots, SA is in the WCF even with TP not great, Tim declining further and Manu declining as well.

It seems a little more clear that it's going to have to be Kawhi's team because he's bankable on both ends more often than not, but they can be a nice 1a/1b combo for 3-4 years it looks like with a good supporting cast.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Would like to see Aldridge come in much better shape next season though. I thought he was fine this season. Would be nice to get a big man, that can rebound well next to him if Duncan doesn't come back (Pau?) I really think Aldridge, and Kawhi will continue living up to that one two punch next season with another season in the system and no offseason contract issues for him.

Dwight Howard is so perfect for this spurs team. He's so old and fraudulent, and he's been living in Texas.

[Godbama]

hell, anyone but Pau.

[Kawhitstorm]

Would like to see Aldridge come in much better shape next season though. I thought he was fine this season. Would be nice to get a big man, that can rebound well next to him if Duncan doesn't come back (Pau?) I really think Aldridge, and Kawhi will continue living up to that one two punch next season with another season in the system and no offseason contract issues for him.

The offense would need to be more uptempo & that should be possible if the PG/C positions are upgraded. Even if Pau signs, Softridge has to bulk up & be ready to play center against small-ball teams since Pau/LMA is unplayable against the "Death lineup".

Bosh only became a center after the Heatles lost to the Mavs in the 2011 Finals where they had trouble scoring b/c they were playing isolation halfcourt sets every time down the floor. They were able to generate a lot of turnovers which fueled their transition game but don't expect that from Softridge playing the center spot b/c he isn't as mobile as Bosh. Their similarity starts & ends w/ their ability to stretch the floor but so can Pau.

[Kawhitstorm]

He was worth it. If the bench played a little better or a few calls go SA's way or a few starters hit some shots, SA is in the WCF even with TP not great, Tim declining further and Manu declining as well.

They would have been smoked in the WCF b/c the bench was proven to be trash so I'm glad they got upset in the 2nd rd since this will put the spotlight on the FO to make moves instead of sticking w/ the old guard for one more season.

[AFMadison]

OMG who is this poster? :lol
L. Take it.

[spurraider21]

HarlemHedge37

[TD 21]

I was in favor of signing Aldridge as a piece, not as a building block..I was annoyed when they were essentially begging him to join, though, as I said in the off-season thread, he's not good enough to salivate over..

I don't mind the signing in a vacuum..however, if you still have Parker and Ginobili on the roster, if you just signed Danny Green to a deal, if you still have Mills/Diaw/etc, why deviate from what made them successful in favor of building an entire offense around a career, inefficient choker that will 100% let you down when the pressure is high?

For what he's making, he has to be a building block and he would be on any team. I don't get why you continue to act like they could have done better, when in reality, they were lucky to do as well as him.

They had to deviate from what made them successful, because it was over for that team as a contender unfortunately.

Check your PM's.

[daslicer]

Spurs would have been somewhere between 5-8th place in the west if they didn't sign him along with being eliminated in the first round.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

For what he's making, he has to be a building block and he would be on any team. I don't get why you continue to act like they could have done better, when in reality, they were lucky to do as well as him.

They had to deviate from what made them successful, because it was over for that team as a contender unfortunately.

Check your PM's.

Lame is a player like Elton Brand or Baron Davis. He might be a name on the marquee, and if it's your marquee... you're screwed. The spurs would have been better off with some young guy who's restricted offer wouldn't be matched. But the spurs hate youth. The spurs are the team that renounced "Josephs."

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Spurs would have been somewhere between 5-8th place in the west if they didn't sign him along with being eliminated in the first round.

Unimaginative, unhopeful, wrong.

[daslicer]

Unimaginative, unhopeful, wrong.

Pretty much the truth. The effects of Duncan's rapid decline were hidden all year due to Aldridge. I can't imagine the Spurs winning many games if they had Duncan this year and some random fill in which would have been the case had they not acquired Aldridge.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

The affects of Duncan's rapid decline are aldridge. Timmy needed to continue feeding on Splitter, Diaw, and Parker style feeds for the high post mid ranger or random cut. Lame just gets the ball on pick and pop or dirky post up. People think Timmy dead, the spurs just screwed up his game with a lame ass plug in.

[sasaint]

Spurs would have been somewhere between 5-8th place in the west if they didn't sign him along with being eliminated in the first round.

Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round. :wow

Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round. :wow

Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.

Brilliant

[daslicer]

Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round. :wow

Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.

Honestly being a 5-8 seed is really bad it means you are not a contender and you are even far away from being an elite team. Historically 2-3 seed matchup tends to be very competitive. It's not like the Spurs were the 1 seed and got taken out by a 4th seed. In any other year Spurs-OKC would have been the WCF match up but due to the Warriors historical season it ended up as a second round match up. Duncan's decline this year was really that bad I think people ignore that. Once he had that knee injury he was never the same again. Do you honestly believe the Spurs would be a top 5 team in the west playing a broke Duncan with Rolo for a full season? Ultimately Duncan's rapid decline wasn't planned for if they had Duncan even from last year's playoffs they beat the Thunder.

[BD24]

Was still a bad take faggot. Where are we if we don't get Aldridge in the Summer? Not just now, even long term? Are we better off than we are now? No. We are most likely in the lottery next year or 7/8 seed with no LMA. Alot of good that would do us.

[sasaint]

Honestly being a 5-8 seed is really bad it means you are not a contender and you are even far away from being an elite team. Historically 2-3 seed matchup tends to be very competitive. It's not like the Spurs were the 1 seed and got taken out by a 4th seed. In any other year Spurs-OKC would have been the WCF match up but due to the Warriors historical season it ended up as a second round match up. Duncan's decline this year was really that bad I think people ignore that. Once he had that knee injury he was never the same again. Do you honestly believe the Spurs would be a top 5 team in the west playing a broke Duncan with Rolo for a full season? Ultimately Duncan's rapid decline wasn't planned for if they had Duncan even from last year's playoffs they beat the Thunder.

To answer your question, "No." But I think we would be in a better position going forward. I think we may well be a 5-8 seed next season. So, I would have rather been there this season with the prospect of moving up next season rather than moving down - which is how I see things.

I admit that I expected another season or possibly even two from Duncan before this season began. His wheels falling off has been precipitous and unexpected.

[daslicer]

To answer your question, "No." But I think we would be in a better position going forward. I think we may well be a 5-8 seed next season. So, I would have rather been there this season with the prospect of moving up next season rather than moving down - which is how I see things.

I admit that I expected another season or possibly even two from Duncan before this season began. His wheels falling off has been precipitous and unexpected.

I think at worst next year the Spurs will be a 4th seed. With the way the West is currently set up they are only 3 teams that can finish with better records than the spurs next year and they are the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder. Realistically they have a chance to be as high as second again and an outside chance at 1st if the Warriors start to suffer fatigue from their deep playoff runs, loss of depth through FA, injuries. Spurs just need to do some tweaking to the roster and find some solid role players.

[sasaint]

I think at worst next year the Spurs will be a 4th seed. With the way the West is currently set up they are only 3 teams that can finish with better records than the spurs next year and they are the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder. Realistically they have a chance to be as high as second again and an outside chance at 1st if the Warriors start to suffer fatigue from their deep playoff runs, loss of depth through FA, injuries. Spurs just need to do some tweaking to the roster and find some solid role players.

You and I just see the team very differently. I think we need much more than a roster-tweaking. I believe we are facing a true re-build in order to remain play-off competitive - never mind competing for the LOB. Plus I think some teams are in a better position to improve.

[tholdren]

Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round. :wow

Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.
had to sign him tbh. this opened the door for sa being a small market that can lure big names. the idea behind the signing is better than who spurs signed

[sasaint]

had to sign him tbh. this opened the door for sa being a small market that can lure big names. the idea behind the signing is better than who spurs signed

I hope the theory gets borne out in practice. But that's all it is - a theory - until another significant FA comes here. Frankly, with the team in decline and no longer able to offer Tim and Manu to play along side them, I am not sure SA is an attractive FA destination. This coming off-season we don't need one great FA, but a couple or three good ones. I think we will have a bunch of holes to fill.

[daslicer]

You and I just see the team very differently. I think we need much more than a roster-tweaking. I believe we are facing a true re-build in order to remain play-off competitive - never mind competing for the LOB. Plus I think some teams are in a better position to improve.

I feel the Spurs are entering a rebuild mode similar to 2001 when they got swept by the Lakers. This rebuild will probably take 2-3 years to complete but with Kawhi,LMA they are still capable of being a top 4 team in the West. Can you name any other teams besides the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder that could be better than them next year?The 5-8 seeds in the West were crap this year I don't see any of those teams making a great leap into the top 4 next year baring some great off-season moves. The t-wolves are probably 2 years away from being an elite team.

[DeadlyDynasty]

Nope...Spurs are quasi-rebuilding and it doesn't help that fellow UT alum Kevin Durant now knows he's on a better team than Aldridge. I see empty stats and 55-60 win seasons in the Spurs future, but no rangs

[spursgu]

Spurs fans better get use to Aldridge stinking it up in the playoffs every year. He's the Tony Parker version of this new core.

[K...]

Spurs fans better get use to Aldridge stinking it up in the playoffs every year. He's the Tony Parker version of this new core.

sorry bro i already tagged kawhi as the prime Parker playoffs successor....dazzles in the reg season, but too predictable and easy to shut down.

LMA shut down by pinky injury and ADams and Ibake

Kawhi.,...roberdson? i mean who?

[skut_farkus]

I feel the Spurs are entering a rebuild mode similar to 2001 when they got swept by the Lakers. This rebuild will probably take 2-3 years to complete but with Kawhi,LMA they are still capable of being a top 4 team in the West. Can you name any other teams besides the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder that could be better than them next year?The 5-8 seeds in the West were crap this year I don't see any of those teams making a great leap into the top 4 next year baring some great off-season moves. The t-wolves are probably 2 years away from being an elite team.

Who cares outside of the warriors none of those teams have a chance at beating them. You are pretty much playing for 2nd place in the west for the next 5 years :lol

[sasaint]

I feel the Spurs are entering a rebuild mode similar to 2001 when they got swept by the Lakers. This rebuild will probably take 2-3 years to complete but with Kawhi,LMA they are still capable of being a top 4 team in the West. Can you name any other teams besides the Clippers,Warriors,Thunder that could be better than them next year?The 5-8 seeds in the West were crap this year I don't see any of those teams making a great leap into the top 4 next year baring some great off-season moves. The t-wolves are probably 2 years away from being an elite team.

I really respect what Portland accomplished this season, and I don't know what to exp ct from them going forward. Utah has some nice players, and I don't know what they might accomplish if all their guys stay d reasonably healthy. With Cuban running the show, the Mavs are capable of great off-season moves. In fact that is part of my concern for the Spurs - historically we seem less willing/capable of making great off-season moves than many teams.

[daslicer]

Who cares outside of the warriors none of those teams have a chance at beating them. You are pretty much playing for 2nd place in the west for the next 5 years :lol

There is a high chance the spurs may never win another title again and I'm fine with that. I felt after winning 5 anything else afterwards was gravy. However I do find watching a 50 plus win team more exciting versus the alternative of watching a team like the sixers,nets that win around 10-20 games. If the Warriors win this year they probably 3 peat and burn out just like every other team that has 3 peated in recent history. Are you really that stupid to believe the Warriors are going to go on Bill Russel Celtic's type of run :lol?

[daslicer]

I really respect what Portland accomplished this season, and I don't know what to exp ct from them going forward. Utah has some nice players, and I don't know what they might accomplish if all their guys stay d reasonably healthy. With Cuban running the show, the Mavs are capable of great off-season moves. In fact that is part of my concern for the Spurs - historically we seem less willing/capable of making great off-season moves than many teams.

Utah has potential to be a playoff team next year but I doubt they crack the top 4 of the West. Usually when a team doesn't go the playoffs it's rare the following year they instantaneously become a top 4 team. That only happens if that team drafts a superstar in the mold of Duncan,Shaq, or signs one like that during FA. I feel the Rockets and Grizzlies won't be in the playoffs next year. That will definitely open up 2 more slots for some new teams to rise. The Mavs are definitely a question mark. They could either miss the playoffs or make it again depending on the off-season moves they make.

[SAGirl]

They would have been smoked in the WCF b/c the bench was proven to be trash so I'm glad they got upset in the 2nd rd since this will put the spotlight on the FO to make moves instead of sticking w/ the old guard for one more season.
Agree with this very much. This unexpected result does put pressure on the FO.

[spurs10]

We probably wouldn't have done near as well without LMA. We won 73 games this season. Not horrible. There likely shouldn't have been a 6th game (at least not a close out game) and we'd still be lacing them up.

[SAGirl]

Much worse than being the 2-seed and getting eliminated in the second round. :wow

Tbh, I am still not sure what to make of his signing. (Frankly, I wanted us to go after his running mate, RoLo and use the savings for an upgrade elsewhere.) What I do not like is his penchant for the fadeaway. But mostly, after rooting for recent Spurs teams, what I object to is the reversion to iso-ball. How much of that is attributable to LMA's presence, I don't know. I hope we can find some offense next season without the heavy reliance on iso-ball.
Both LMA and Kawhi are Iso scorers. Do you remember Kawhi posting up last season?/it was terrible for the offense. He has improved and added drives and become more versatile adding hook shots etc. He was stumped initially by double teams, etc. It took him a season to feel more comfortable etc. He's still learning but he does like the midrange post up a lot. I think getting LMA was the result of needing a second scorer bc Tony was showing declines even last season. So we needed both another scorer and a big. He fit the bill and you kind of get the best you can get who wants you too. We need an elite guard. Tony isn't one anymore and the decline of Manu can no longer cover that up.

[Cry Havoc]

wow..wow..wow..

:lmao Still trying to be the popular kid on the block while you get shit on.

[TD 21]

Lame is a player like Elton Brand or Baron Davis. He might be a name on the marquee, and if it's your marquee... you're screwed. The spurs would have been better off with some young guy who's restricted offer wouldn't be matched. But the spurs hate youth. The spurs are the team that renounced "Josephs."

It's the NBA; unless your best player is in the top three-five in the league, it's almost impossible to win a championship. Leonard is right around that territory, but he's not a conventional player of that caliber.

It was either continue trying to be something like a top five team, hope everything falls into place one year and win one more or it was sink into NBA purgatory. I'd rather the former. Though highly unlikely they win another one, depending on what moves they make in the next 1-2 years, it's not a totally hopeless situation the likes of the current Raptors or Hawks or recent Bulls, Grizzlies and Pacers.

[TheGoldStandard]

Aldridge is very much worth it for the length of his contract, he gives you scoring on the post and size.. Could he rebound better? Sure, could he play better defense? Yeah. but that's not what we got him for. Spurs were tired of getting the ball on the offensive end and everyone ignoring Tiago because he couldn't score 3 feet in front of the basket consistently. Remember he would have a clear path to the rim to score and he would pump fake his way into a terrible shot?

The truth is we are not going to get another Tim Duncan, thats a once in a generation type of player and we weren't after a defensive big who was going to get us rebounds and fly above the rim for blocks. The Spurs knew they were going to need offense and they were not going to get it from Parker or Manu or Tim.. It's Kawhi and Aldridge until the Spurs move on Parker and get an athletic PG that can score and has length to defend.

[sasaint]

Both LMA and Kawhi are Iso scorers. Do you remember Kawhi posting up last season?/it was terrible for the offense. He has improved and added drives and become more versatile adding hook shots etc. He was stumped initially by double teams, etc. It took him a season to feel more comfortable etc. He's still learning but he does like the midrange post up a lot. I think getting LMA was the result of needing a second scorer bc Tony was showing declines even last season. So we needed both another scorer and a big. He fit the bill and you kind of get the best you can get who wants you too. We need an elite guard. Tony isn't one anymore and the decline of Manu can no longer cover that up.

Kawhi is better when he is NOT an iso scorer. I love when he is involved in the offensive flow and ends up with a variety of 3-point shots, midranges and dunks. Before we became so totally committed to iso-ball that was the Kawhi that impressed me.