Was Aldridge worth it, tbh?

[cutewizard]

wrong spelling................willingness to ADAPT......................sorry

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Harlem uses alts to suck himself off and throws out this know it all stuff how he knows who everyone's alt is and what take they had on June 11 th 2006 etc

Dude is a cake boy :lol

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jewUXGOOKk

[cutewizard]

lest we forget the abilities of the super forward LMA!!!!!!!!

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJrtVUHj6I0

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5CVj6MJDJ8

[cutewizard]

the better question is: ARE WE WORTHY FANS OF THE SPURS AND ALDRIDGE????? LOL

[Seventyniner]

Is #ceperez now a thing? :lol

It's been a thing since his first post on this board. Mel just came up with a good way to describe it.

[cutewizard]

Lamarcus, best in the world, prove it tomorrow baby

Go Spurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrssssssssssssssssssss go

[Mel_13]

It's been a thing since his first post on this board. Mel just came up with a good way to describe it.

It was a Chinook invention, I was just an early adopter.

[Joseph Kony]

something something faggot, something something :lmao emoticon

[Seventyniner]

It was a Chinook invention, I was just an early adopter.

I stand corrected. Props, Chinook.

[ceperez]

6 points

2-7 Shooting.

Yeah... I'm really disappointed.

[ceperez]

Folks, explain to me why in the final play:

687841905170726913

we have Aldridge *NOT* participating in the coaching huddle.

WTF!

[playbonner15]

Folks, explain to me why in the final play:

687841905170726913

we have Aldridge *NOT* participating in the coaching huddle.

WTF!


To be fair, only TP and Manu are discussing something, the others, even Tim, are only listening

[ceperez]

To be fair, only TP and Manu are discussing something, the others, even Tim, are only listening

The body language is evident, you don't sit like 7 feet away from the conversation. You do what Green did, you move closer.

Dude is a diva that hates playing with a lot of contact.

Cavs roughed him up and he just checked out.

Spurs have Warriors, Rockets and Cavs coming up this month. Let's see how this diva fares with more rough competition.

[Mel_13]

Some classic #ceperez going on.

[ceperez]

Some classic #ceperez going on.

Yes, I'm definitely pissed that we got Richard Jefferson 2.0 here. 6 points on 29 minutes of play? He could only score when nobody was covering him.

Could have been 4 points if not for the fact that he was intentionally fouled at the end of the game.

[100%duncan]

Some classic #ceperez going on.

Nigga needs a spurs loss with aldridge shooting 1-20 to save his life imho

[Mel_13]

Nigga needs a spurs loss with aldridge shooting 1-20 to save his life imho

:lol

[ceperez]

Nigga needs a spurs loss with aldridge shooting 1-20 to save his life imho

Yeah, and you are perfectly content with 2-7 shooting. I don't think a guy who gets paid $20m a year should get a pass.

[SouthernFried]

David West looked more like the max contract guy out there tonight.

If West could do it...why couldn't Aldridge? Aldridge is supposed to be a bigger and better West.

[ceperez]

David West looked more like the max contract guy out there tonight.

If West could do it...why couldn't Aldridge? Aldridge is supposed to be a bigger and better West.

He's got the talent, doesn't have the attitude. Like they say, it is all mental.

3 big games coming up this month, let's see if Aldridge can change his stripes.

Let's be honest, both players bread and butter is the mid range jumper, West is shooting like 56% and like 65% in last 5 games. Aldridge is shooting like 46%. The dude is a joke!

[hater]

Aldriges rebounds and 2nd half shots helped us win. Face it and move on faggot

[ceperez]

Aldriges rebounds and 2nd half shots helped us win. Face it and move on faggot

Spurs could have brought in Ndoye from the D-league Spurs and he would have done just as well.

[SAGirl]

For sure we won despite LMA. West looked much better. Lamarcus has been streaky and this game wasn't his best defensive effort either. He couldn't exploit Love and was afraid to shoot over LeBron (frankly I thought he was afraid of a TO against LeBron). He just didn't have it last night. Hoping he gets ready for Draymond.

It was actually a gusty win against the Cavs with bad LMA and bad Diaw showing up, plus icy hot getting torched early and being icy, plus Manu bad shooting night, plus Kawhi/Td also rough shooting night until the second half. Tony came through big time.

[ceperez]

For sure we won despite LMA. West looked much better. Lamarcus has been streaky and this game wasn't his best defensive effort either. He couldn't exploit Love and was afraid to shoot over LeBron (frankly I thought he was afraid of a TO against LeBron). He just didn't have it last night. Hoping he gets ready for Draymond.

It was actually a gusty win against the Cavs with bad LMA and bad Diaw showing up, plus icy hot getting torched early and being icy, plus Manu bad shooting night, plus Kawhi/Td also rough shooting night until the second half. Tony came through big time.

Sigh... if only Spurs focused on signing Draymond over Aldridge. That would have guaranteed the championship. Just so disappointed.

Aldridge was playing scared. Max player passing on the opportunity to post up a much smaller Lebron. What a wuss! 40 year old Duncan would have relished the opportunity.

[SAGirl]

Sigh... if only Spurs focused on signing Draymond over Aldridge. That would have guaranteed the championship. Just so disappointed.
Draymond was staying put with GSW. Going after him would have meant coming away with neither guy and we needed someone.

[ceperez]

Draymond was staying put with GSW. Going after him would have meant coming away with neither guy and we needed someone.

That someone isn't the Lamarcus Aldrige that we got. Right now the Spurs have a $20m/year boat anchor that they are hoping and praying shows up against the more aggressive and talented teams.

[Mel_13]

Sigh... if only Spurs focused on signing Draymond over Aldridge. That would have guaranteed the championship. Just so disappointed.



Green's RFA status has been explained to you repeatedly. Pursuing him would have been futile and monumentally stupid. Much as repeating the same debunked notion is.

[ceperez]

Green's RFA status has been explained to you repeatedly. Pursuing him would have been futile and monumentally stupid. Much as repeating the same debunked notion is.

Hypothetical, but would you not agree that Draymond Green would have been a better sign up than LMA?

[SpursFan86]

Hypothetical, but would you not agree that Draymond Green would have been a better sign up than LMA?

Sure he would. That doesn't change the fact that it would've been foolish of the Spurs to spend all their time pursuing him rather than going after a realistic target like LMA.

[Mel_13]

Hypothetical, but would you not agree that Draymond Green would have been a better sign up than LMA?

I don't do alternate realities. You have clearly stated that the Spurs should have pursued Green in this reality. That would have been monumentally stupid. Thank goodness PATFO is way too smart to engage in fantasies. They made the best signing possible in the real world.

[ceperez]

Sure he would. That doesn't change the fact that it would've been foolish of the Spurs to spend all their time pursuing him rather than going after a realistic target like LMA.

To be honest, in hindsight he would have been better. Not only would Spurs have a better player, it would remove a primary player away from GSW.

So far, LMA hasn't been shown to be worth it. Until proven otherwise.

[SpursFan86]

To be honest, in hindsight he would have been better. Not only would Spurs have a better player, it would remove a primary player away from GSW.

So far, LMA hasn't been shown to be worth it. Until proven otherwise.

What part of RFA don't you understand? GS could've (and almost certainly would've) matched any offer the Spurs threw at him. There was never a remotely realistic chance that they could land Draymond. If you want to argue that Draymond is better than LMA and that he fits SA better, that's fine. I even agree with you. But arguing that the Spurs should've pursued Draymond instead of Aldridge is beyond stupid and a different argument entirely.

Aldridge hasn't played up to his contract so far, but:

1) He's steadily improved as the season has gone on, and there's a good chance he'll continue to do so as he gets more accustomed to playing here

2) He hasn't been nearly as bad as you're making him out to be

If he's still playing like shit come April and is a no-show in the playoffs, fine, criticize the move all you want. But doing so now (when anyone with half a brain could've told you he'd likely have some growing pains as he struggles to adjust to a new playing style), and to the extent you're showing, is just ridiculous.

[cd98]

Don't be down on LMA. He's had bad games mixed with good games, but overall, he's been positive and he is still adjusting to the Spurs system. He had one of the biggest plays of the game last night when he got the offensive rebound off of Tony Parker's 2nd missed free throw, which would have opened the door for the Cavs. Then he stepped up at the line to put the game out of reach. I predict by midseason, he'll be balling, but it does seem he is willing to defer in big games, though that may change as he gets more comfortable in the system. It's easy to play lax when you are winning home games by 20 points. This was a close game with good defense and that can mess with confidence.

[ceperez]

What part of RFA don't you understand? GS could've (and almost certainly would've) matched any offer the Spurs threw at him. There was never a remotely realistic chance that they could land Draymond. If you want to argue that Draymond is better than LMA and that he fits SA better, that's fine. I even agree with you. But arguing that the Spurs should've pursued Draymond instead of Aldridge is beyond stupid and a different argument entirely.

Aldridge hasn't played up to his contract so far, but:

1) He's steadily improved as the season has gone on, and there's a good chance he'll continue to do so as he gets more accustomed to playing here

2) He hasn't been nearly as bad as you're making him out to be

If he's still playing like shit come April and is a no-show in the playoffs, fine, criticize the move all you want. But doing so now (when anyone with half a brain could've told you he'd likely have some growing pains as he struggles to adjust to a new playing style), and to the extent you're showing, is just ridiculous.

Really? He's still playing like shit against the elite teams.

I would love to be proven wrong, but the current status is that you could put any 6'11" D-league stiff and they would have played just as well.

[Mel_13]

So #ceperez.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

:lmao

[ceperez]

Don't be down on LMA. He's had bad games mixed with good games, but overall, he's been positive and he is still adjusting to the Spurs system. He had one of the biggest plays of the game last night when he got the offensive rebound off of Tony Parker's 2nd missed free throw, which would have opened the door for the Cavs. Then he stepped up at the line to put the game out of reach. I predict by midseason, he'll be balling, but it does seem he is willing to defer in big games, though that may change as he gets more comfortable in the system. It's easy to play lax when you are winning home games by 20 points. This was a close game with good defense and that can mess with confidence.

Mid season is 9 games from now. Spurs will play Mavs, Warriors, Rockets, Cavs, Mavs and Heat. Fingers cross that he show up or whittles away.

[Solid D]

Aldridge is a huge part of the Spurs' success, especially with his contribution to the team defensive systm. The change has been dramatic year-over-year. No question. He's been worth his contract (NBA relative measurement values) considering the small 40 game sample size.

Even on an off night, he bails his team out, clinging to a 4-point lead with Kyrie warming up, and 12 seconds remaining when TP missed both FTs. Cleveland had 1 (20-second) timeout remaining when Aldridge did a nice swim move on Tristan Thompson to get the rebound on Tony's 2nd FT, draw the foul, then make two clutch FTs. He's been a difference maker.

[boutons_deux]

L's RBs are worth at least a point each.

eg: getting the ORB with 12 secs left off Tony's SECOND choked FT.

but, yes, LMA does seem a bit soft, except snagging rebounds is not a soft job, and he has played some tough low-block D, and he's pretty damn good at it.

[Maddog]

I don't do alternate realities. You have clearly stated that the Spurs should have pursued Green in this reality. That would have been monumentally stupid. Thank goodness PATFO is way too smart to engage in fantasies. They made the best signing possible in the real world.

And despite making a "mistake" signing LMA, the Spurs are 35-6 with him. Even last nights off game he still had 8 rebounds in 29 minutes. Thought his defense was better in the second half.

[sasaint]

Don't be down on LMA. He's had bad games mixed with good games, but overall, he's been positive and he is still adjusting to the Spurs system. He had one of the biggest plays of the game last night when he got the offensive rebound off of Tony Parker's 2nd missed free throw, which would have opened the door for the Cavs. Then he stepped up at the line to put the game out of reach. I predict by midseason, he'll be balling, but it does seem he is willing to defer in big games, though that may change as he gets more comfortable in the system. It's easy to play lax when you are winning home games by 20 points. This was a close game with good defense and that can mess with confidence.

Last night was his first game as a Spur against really serious championship competition. I wonder what was going through his mind. LMA had gradually (if inconsistently) become more comfortable and somewhat more aggressive against the Spurs' soft schedule to date. But because of its intensity this game represented a reset of sorts. LMA seems to have reverted to early season form - passive, hesitant and deferential. As a member of the Blazers he was not in these kind of regular season games very often - certainly not with 3 or 4 potential HOFers in the lineup, veterans of championship wars, and Pop on the bench. I just wonder what the guy thought about the entire experience, especially in contrast to his entire NBA experience in a very different environment - without HOF teammates or coach. No doubt his Spurs teammates and coaches conducted themselves in a very different way from his former Blazers counterparts. All this on top of the fact that he was not being called on to carry the team.

[sasaint]

Mid season is 9 games from now. Spurs will play Mavs, Warriors, Rockets, Cavs, Mavs and Heat. Fingers cross that he show up or whittles away.

Huh? We have played 41 games in an 82-game season...

[SpursBig3s]

Yeah, and you are perfectly content with 2-7 shooting. I don't think a guy who gets paid $20m a year should get a pass.


Somwhen Kawhi had 7pts and 5 boards against Detroit, did you think a $94 million dollar man shouldn't get a pass either?

[houston spurs fan]

Huh? We have played 41 games in an 82-game season...
Has to be a dabom troll. He's the only one on this board with that level of incompetence.

[DPG21920]

So Spurs are on pace for their 1st 70 win season & their defence improved immensely & he's not worth it. Ok. This coming from someone who's never really loved LMA either.

[Maddog]

L's RBs are worth at least a point each.

eg: getting the ORB with 12 secs left off Tony's SECOND choked FT.

but, yes, LMA does seem a bit soft, except snagging rebounds is not a soft job, and he has played some tough low-block D, and he's pretty damn good at it.


So Spurs are on pace for their 1st 70 win season & their defence improved immensely & he's not worth it. Ok. This coming from someone who's never really loved LMA either.

In some ways I was impressed with him last night. Not having a great offensive game, not getting touches, but still getting in there and grabbing boards.

[ceperez]

Huh? We have played 41 games in an 82-game season...

Yeah you are right. It already is mid season and Aldridge is still stinking up the joint.

I'll be easy, he's got 9 games to prove himself.

[ceperez]

Somwhen Kawhi had 7pts and 5 boards against Detroit, did you think a $94 million dollar man shouldn't get a pass either?

Yes, he gets a pass. Why, because he has been consistent night after night. The stats bear this out.

LMA has not been consistent and his stats are like crap.

[ceperez]

In some ways I was impressed with him last night. Not having a great offensive game, not getting touches, but still getting in there and grabbing boards.

Yeah... Tiago Splitter - Lite play. The dude doesn't even know how to make a solid pick.

[Chinook]

Aldridge is a huge part of the Spurs' success, especially with his contribution to the team defensive systm. The change has been dramatic year-over-year. No question. He's been worth his contract (NBA relative measurement values) considering the small 40 game sample size.

Even on an off night, he bails his team out, clinging to a 4-point lead with Kyrie warming up, and 12 seconds remaining when TP missed both FTs. Cleveland had 1 (20-second) timeout remaining when Aldridge did a nice swim move on Tristan Thompson to get the rebound on Tony's 2nd FT, draw the foul, then make two clutch FTs. He's been a difference maker.

#ceperez getting rammed with some Solid D

[ceperez]

Aldridge is a huge part of the Spurs' success, especially with his contribution to the team defensive systm. The change has been dramatic year-over-year. No question. He's been worth his contract (NBA relative measurement values) considering the small 40 game sample size.

Even on an off night, he bails his team out, clinging to a 4-point lead with Kyrie warming up, and 12 seconds remaining when TP missed both FTs. Cleveland had 1 (20-second) timeout remaining when Aldridge did a nice swim move on Tristan Thompson to get the rebound on Tony's 2nd FT, draw the foul, then make two clutch FTs. He's been a difference maker.

Yeah... like you didn't notice how good Leonard is this season versus last season. I got no issue with about Lamarcus game against lightweights like the 76ers and the Nets. But he has to show up against the elite teams.

Well, if you think his performance with 2-7 is good enough, then that's your opinion. It is a piss poor performance in my book. sorry.

[cjw]

I don't do alternate realities. You have clearly stated that the Spurs should have pursued Green in this reality. That would have been monumentally stupid. Thank goodness PATFO is way too smart to engage in fantasies. They made the best signing possible in the real world.

While we're at it. Lebron was a free agent too. Wouldn't he have been a better sign than LMA??

[ceperez]

While we're at it. Lebron was a free agent too. Wouldn't he have been a better sign than LMA??

Yeah of course. You can go down the list of free agents last year and maybe LMA beats out Enes Kanter. I say maybe because Kanter would have done better than 2-7 shooting last night.

The dude is looking more and more like Richard Jefferson 2.0.

[SpursforSix]

Yeah you are right. It already is mid season and Aldridge is still stinking up the joint.

I'll be easy, he's got 9 games to prove himself.

He went from being the focal point of an offense to being a piece of a team with multiple weapons. Has to be hard if not impossible to get into the same rhythm he did in Portland. If the Spurs pounded the ball into every play, he'd probably find that same consistency and put up better numbers.

But that's not what the Spurs need. They need someone who can play defense, grab rebounds, and contribute the occasional big night. If he's hot, keep feeding him the ball. If he's not, they have plenty of other options.

[ceperez]

He went from being the focal point of an offense to being a piece of a team with multiple weapons. Has to be hard if not impossible to get into the same rhythm he did in Portland. If the Spurs pounded the ball into every play, he'd probably find that same consistency and put up better numbers.

But that's not what the Spurs need. They need someone who can play defense, grab rebounds, and contribute the occasional big night. If he's hot, keep feeding him the ball. If he's not, they have plenty of other options.

We can say exactly the same thing about Richard Jefferson. We know how that turned out.

[Chinook]

Yeah you are right. It already is mid season and Aldridge is still stinking up the joint.

I'll be easy, he's got 9 games to prove himself.

Or else you take him out?

[SpursFan86]

Why the fuck were we so intent on bringing back Kawhi...should've focused on getting LeBron here :bang:bang:bang

[ceperez]

Or else you take him out?

Otherwise he gets permanently labeled "Richard Jefferson 2.0"

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

You have to give ceperez credit though - he's shitting on LMA in one thread mainly and unlike other terrible posters doesn't start new threads for every thought crossing his mind. :tu

[SpursforSix]

We can say exactly the same thing about Richard Jefferson. We know how that turned out.

LOL.

[Tully365]

Kawhi had a few off games recently where Aldridge shined, and now Aldridge had an off game where Kawhi shined... Spurs won all those games-- that's the important thing.

[ceperez]

You have to give ceperez credit though - he's shitting on LMA in one thread mainly and unlike other terrible posters doesn't start new threads for every thought crossing his mind. :tu

Thanks. If you think I enjoy shitting on players, I don't.

Active supporter of Simmons, Boban, Anderson, Patty, Manu, West, Bobo, Parker, Duncan, Leonard and even Danny Green. Wait... that's almost the entire team!

Oh... I don't like McCallum.

[ceperez]

Kawhi had a few off games recently where Aldridge shined, and now Aldridge had an off game where Kawhi shined... Spurs won all those games-- that's the important thing.

Regular season for the Spurs is mostly practice.

However, it is important for players (specifically the max player) to show up against elite competition.

[Join'orDie]

Hypothetically, the Spurs should've drafted Jimmy Butler instead of Joseph. Then they should've kept Jefferson and their 1st round pick and taken Draymond. There are a million what ifs and should haves. Fact is Lamarcus was the BPA and the Spurs grabbed him. He's had some great nights and he's had last nights, Spurs still won even with his poor offensive showing. And I'm not so sure that we are not closer to the rest of the West without him. K-Love needed time to get used to the Cavs, so for now I'll take 35-6 and give LMA a pass on his up and down play on offense.

[ceperez]

Hypothetically, the Spurs should've drafted Jimmy Butler instead of Joseph. Then they should've kept Jefferson and their 1st round pick and taken Draymond. There are a million what ifs and should haves. Fact is Lamarcus was the BPA and the Spurs grabbed him. He's had some great nights and he's had last nights, Spurs still won even with his poor offensive showing. And I'm not so sure that we are not closer to the rest of the West without him. K-Love needed time to get used to the Cavs, so for now I'll take 35-6 and give LMA a pass on his up and down play on offense.

Man... can't believe the damage that Jefferson did! Spurs gave rights to Ezelli in the 2012 draft.

That's what happens when you get a player like Richard Jefferson.

[Tully365]

Regular season for the Spurs is mostly practice.

However, it is important for players (specifically the max player) to show up against elite competition.

The important thing is the win. I just can't help noticing that after every game, different posters with different agendas pop up and point out something lacking in the one player they happen to dislike... It's especially irrelevant after a 15 point win, where someone's provided something like D or ball movement without putting up specific numbers. The Spurs are 35-6, riding a 10 game winning streak and a 32 game home winning streak, but looking casually through spurstalk, you'll see threads on how Kawhi sucks, Paker sucks, Aldridge sucks, patty sucks, Green sucks, etc... It's ridiculous.

[coachmac87]

Yeah of course. You can go down the list of free agents last year and maybe LMA beats out Enes Kanter. I say maybe because Kanter would have done better than 2-7 shooting last night.

The dude is looking more and more like Richard Jefferson 2.0.



You're a fucking idiot and you're like a female who bitches for attention..get a life

[ceperez]

I'll go with this trade: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240448/Bucks-Havent-Yet-Shopped-Greg-Monroe with some random dude to make up the difference.

[TheGreatYacht]

I'll go with this trade: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/240448/Bucks-Havent-Yet-Shopped-Greg-Monroe with some random dude to make up the difference.
Greg Monroe single handily ruined the Bucks

[ChumpDumper]

Spurs could have brought in Ndoye from the D-league Spurs and he would have done just as well.No.

Don't be such a bitter Harlem applsauce bitch, dude.

Aldridge is here and worth it.

Find something else to be an idiot about.

[cjw]

Yeah of course. You can go down the list of free agents last year and maybe LMA beats out Enes Kanter. I say maybe because Kanter would have done better than 2-7 shooting last night.

The dude is looking more and more like Richard Jefferson 2.0.


Just like Green, the Spurs had no shot of signing Kanter. RFA vs. UFA, yet again.

Contending teams doing gymnastics simply don't have the flexibility to tie up cap room for 72 hours on an RFA when things go down so quickly in free agency.

My point was we need to stop comparing LMA to any of these guys who were unattainable or were signing with their former teams regardless.

You're overreacting to one game. He's been playing at an elite level in December and January - 17 PPG on around 53% shooting and approaching double digit rebounding, despite playing only 30 minutes per night. Advanced stats show how valuable certain facets of his offensive game are, and he's spreading the floor (as is West and Diaw's confidence helps too, countering Tim's decline here). His defense has been stellar, though has lost a few stretch fours at the three point line.

[ceperez]

Greg Monroe single handily ruined the Bucks

Beggars aren't going to be choosers. At least he has a better field go percentage than Aldridge. Matter of fact, he's got better stats.

14 Greg Monroe MIL 39 30.5 0.64 2.34 2.98 4.28

29 LaMarcus Aldridge SA 38 29.8 -1.05 1.27 0.22 2.17

Bolded is Real Plus Minus - Greg Monroe definitely a better player.

[Vokun]

Are people serious right now?

One off night after having very efficient nights and now he is trash? Last time I checked, he is still playing good defense, grabbing rebounds, and having that occasional blow up night. Not to mention the spacing he creates that has lead to a rejuvenated Parker getting to the lane with ease. Spurs having a historic season up to this point (with LMA being a big part of it) and shit posters still shitting on him :lmao

[ceperez]

Just like Green, the Spurs had no shot of signing Kanter. RFA vs. UFA, yet again.

Contending teams doing gymnastics simply don't have the flexibility to tie up cap room for 72 hours on an RFA when things go down so quickly in free agency.

My point was we need to stop comparing LMA to any of these guys who were unattainable or were signing with their former teams regardless.

You're overreacting to one game. He's been playing at an elite level in December and January - 17 PPG on around 53% shooting and approaching double digit rebounding, despite playing only 30 minutes per night. Advanced stats show how valuable certain facets of his offensive game are, and he's spreading the floor (as is West and Diaw's confidence helps too, countering Tim's decline here). His defense has been stellar, though has lost a few stretch fours at the three point line.

Sorry, I've been overreacting since the start of the season.

He's been playing at an elite level against cellar dwellers like the Brooklyn Nets.

We shall see how he plays against stronger matchups this month.

However, LMA has the bottom 4 worst stats among the Spurs.

[ceperez]

Are people serious right now?

One off night after having very efficient nights and now he is trash? Last time I checked, he is still playing good defense, grabbing rebounds, and having that occasional blow up night. Not to mention the spacing he creates that has lead to a rejuvenated Parker getting to the lane with ease. Spurs having a historic season up to this point (with LMA being a big part of it) and shit posters still shitting on him :lmao

Spacing? What spacing? Parker is scoring in a crowd.

Spurs are having a historic season because Leonard is having a stellar season. Okay, I'll give Aldridge some credit for running up the score against non-playoff teams.

[Mel_13]

While we're at it. Lebron was a free agent too. Wouldn't he have been a better sign than LMA??

Should have just let Danny walk and signed LeBron.

#ceperez

[Solid D]

Regular season for the Spurs is mostly practice.

However, it is important for players (specifically the max player) to show up against elite competition.

Well, he wasn't too bad against tough competition from the Clippers and Bulls teams. Unless, 26 pts., 13 Reb. 1 Blk (LAC) and 21 pts., 12 Rebs., 1 Blk (CHI) is considered sub-par.

[SpursBig3s]

Well, he wasn't too bad against tough competition from the Clippers and Bulls teams. Unless, 26 pts., 13 Reb. 1 Blk (LAC) and 21 pts., 12 Rebs., 1 Blk (CHI) is considered sub-par.


Dont even bother reasoning with him dude. He literally is that retarded

[Vokun]

Spacing? What spacing? Parker is scoring in a crowd.

Spurs are having a historic season because Leonard is having a stellar season. Okay, I'll give Aldridge some credit for running up the score against non-playoff teams.

Another dumbass post from a shit poster.

[ceperez]

Well, he wasn't too bad against tough competition from the Clippers and Bulls teams. Unless, 26 pts., 13 Reb. 1 Blk (LAC) and 21 pts., 12 Rebs., 1 Blk (CHI) is considered sub-par.

Cherry picking stats.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge

Cleveland 26% 6 points
Toronto 40% 13 points - LOSS
Milwaukee 30% 6 points
Atlanta 40% 13 points
Washington 28% 10 points - LOSS
OKC 33% 11 points - LOSS

Okay, maybe he should be given some slack for the earlier games, but lets see how he does in the next couple of games.

So far he has been a disaster with Cleveland.

I admit, he's definitely better than that injured prone Splitter. What he's not better though is that he is clueless in facilitating the offense of other players. He's one dimensional and has tunnel vision on offense.

[dabom]

I do give ceperez props for standing his ground though.

https://media.giphy.com/media/XCc9oJB4qo0Zq/giphy.gif

[ceperez]

Another dumbass post from a shit poster.

The truth hurts doesn't it?

[024]

Spurs are winning so obviously Aldridge can get a free pass. But I see lots of room for improvement. Spurs have literally the easiest SOS so far. This second half of January looks brutal and meltdowns will definitely ensue if Aldridge plays poorly and the Spurs lose a few. I think Aldridge still needing to integrate better in the offense is a good sign. Aldridge has yet to reach the comfort level on offense that Bosh, Gasol, and Garnett had when they arrived on stacked teams. That means the Spurs can still get better and they need to get better to match the Warriors. Either that or Green starts making his 3's.

[benefactor]

You have to give ceperez credit though - he's shitting on LMA in one thread mainly and unlike other terrible posters doesn't start new threads for every thought crossing his mind. :tu
He can't start new threads. He had his privileges revoked years ago for obvious reasons.

[BanditHiro]

He can't start new threads. He had his privileges revoked years ago for obvious reasons.

is that why his name is different from everyone elses?

[ceperez]

Spurs are winning so obviously Aldridge can get a free pass. But I see lots of room for improvement. Spurs have literally the easiest SOS so far. This second half of January looks brutal and meltdowns will definitely ensue if Aldridge plays poorly and the Spurs lose a few. I think Aldridge still needing to integrate better in the offense is a good sign. Aldridge has yet to reach the comfort level on offense that Bosh, Gasol, and Garnett had when they arrived on stacked teams. That means the Spurs can still get better and they need to get better to match the Warriors. Either that or Green starts making his 3's.

Yep, he absolutely needs to improve to match the competition.

[Solid D]

All of this nonsense is just extending thread of PKA (personality known as) HarlemHeat to 20+ pages.

[benefactor]

is that why his name is different from everyone elses?
Yep. Avante is the same way.

[dabom]

All of this nonsense is just extending thread of PKA (personality known as) HarlemHeat to 20+ pages.

Inb4 someone says game planned. :lol

[ceperez]

All of this nonsense is just extending thread of PKA (personality known as) HarlemHeat to 20+ pages.

Let's all hope and pray that this thread dies. Otherwise, the Spurs will be stuck a $20million boat anchor.

[Solid D]

Lol

[benefactor]

Lol

[spurraider21]

:lol

[DBMethos]

NBA :lol

[BOHOLANO#21]

Leads the team tonite with 23 points bitches!

[Cry Havoc]

#ceperez nowhere to be found.

[jag]

This thread :lol

[SpursBig3s]

Cherry picking stats.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_/id/2983/lamarcus-aldridge

Cleveland 26% 6 points
Toronto 40% 13 points - LOSS
Milwaukee 30% 6 points
Atlanta 40% 13 points
Washington 28% 10 points - LOSS
OKC 33% 11 points - LOSS

Okay, maybe he should be given some slack for the earlier games, but lets see how he does in the next couple of games.

So far he has been a disaster with Cleveland.

I admit, he's definitely better than that injured prone Splitter. What he's not better though is that he is clueless in facilitating the offense of other players. He's one dimensional and has tunnel vision on offense.


It's not his job to initiate the offense you idiot

[DrunkTXLabrat]

from what i can tell, this thread is wading in the shallow end. it's gonna go supernova, come playoff time. Aldridge is totally the bride of dr frankenpoops richo nestefferson monster.

[ChumpDumper]

Glen Rice Jr.

[ceperez]

I will give him props, he played well against the Mavs. 8 games to go.

He did a good job realizing that a washed up SF like Villanueva couldn't guard him.

[Spurtacular]

He can't start new threads. He had his privileges revoked years ago for obvious reasons.

Thought that was only the pink names.....

[DrunkTXLabrat]

reggie williams sure came in handy, that 1st round vs the clipps, didn't he? matter of fact, so did bonners corporate knowledge and all that doubt in Kyle Anderson. championship caliber effort, there.
ChumpDumper (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=153)

[ChumpDumper]

reggie williams sure came in handy, that 1st round vs the clipps, didn't he? matter of fact, so did bonners corporate knowledge and all that doubt in Kyle Anderson. championship caliber effort, there.
ChumpDumper (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=153)Glen Rice Jr. would not have made any difference.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Glen Rice Jr. would not have made any difference.

i can't prove you wrong, but i'll never back down from being disgusted by the spurs reggie whatshisname alternative. glen rice jr woulda been a nice kick in the butt for danny red. can't wait for you to see lame become the new he who will not be named.

[ChumpDumper]

i can't prove you wrong, but i'll never back down from being disgusted by the spurs reggie whatshisname alternative. glen rice jr woulda been a nice kick in the butt for danny red. can't wait for you to see lame become the new he who will not be named.lol thinking the 15th man would make difference.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

lol thinking the 15th man would make difference.

LOL, FORGETTING "YOU'RE ONLY AS STRONG AS YOUR WEAKEST *LINK."

[DrunkTXLabrat]

lol thinking the 15th man would make difference.

youre the same arrogant clown you were, the last time you picked a fight with me. i thought a disappointing 1st round dump woulda de-chumped you a bit.

[100%duncan]

Who's glen rice

[Neurosis]

LOL, FORGETTING "YOU'RE ONLY AS STRONG AS YOUR WEAKEST *LINK."

We're probably only going to have a 10-11 man rotation in terms of meaningful minutes in the playoffs, so further roster spots are purely developmental.

Kawhi, LMA, Green, Parker, Timmy, West, Diaw, Mills, Ginobili, Simmons, then we may or may not see KA/Boban. It doesn't seem Pop really has that much faith in them yet though. Simmons as a massive spark plug off the bench I can see though.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

We're probably only going to have a 10-11 man rotation in terms of meaningful minutes in the playoffs, so further roster spots are purely developmental.

Kawhi, LMA, Green, Parker, Timmy, West, Diaw, Mills, Ginobili, Simmons, then we may or may not see KA/Boban. It doesn't seem Pop really has that much faith in them yet though. Simmons as a massive spark plug off the bench I can see though.

spare me the noob pacification, noob. i'm well aware the playoff rotation is limited. look passed your own dismissive horse shit. When Danny Green is playing like Danny Red, it's nice to have a scrub to turn to that isn't Reggie Williams. The same applies to the big man rotation. Bonner is not gonna be a good desperate option, and lame is as good as a Danny red.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Who's glen rice

it's Glen Rice Jr. and he's the guy the spurs don't appreciate because the spurs think will perdue is more valuable than Dennis Rodman.

[Mel_13]

Who's glen rice

http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/26/glen-rice-jr-shot-in-leg-in-fight-at-t-i-s-restaurant/

[100%duncan]

http://www.tmz.com/2015/10/26/glen-rice-jr-shot-in-leg-in-fight-at-t-i-s-restaurant/

Wow. That toughness would have gotten us over matt barnes. Im sure.

[Neurosis]

spare me the noob pacification, noob. i'm well aware the playoff rotation is limited. look passed your own dismissive horse shit. When Danny Green is playing like Danny Red, it's nice to have a scrub to turn to that isn't Reggie Williams. The same applies to the big man rotation. Bonner is not gonna be a good desperate option, and lame is as good as a Danny red.

Lol calm your shit dude.

I don't really see what scrub could realistically replace Danny anyway. Anyone who can't even get into a 12 man rotation in the regular season surely isn't going to outperform Danny in the playoffs, even if DG is playing awful.

As bad as DG has been so far this season, he's still a better SG than a lot of the others in the league. Who would we realistically be able to get on a 15th man contract who could play as good as even a bad Danny Green?

The only thing that's really changed is his shot's not falling. He still spaces the floor correctly, plays good D and does things that I doubt any minimum contract scrub could bring to a high intensity playoff game.

Also as bad as Danny Green is, Glen Rice Jr has shot like 25% from the field and from 3 so far. DG might be having a massive drop off shooting barely 33% from 3 but Glen Rice Jr isn't an improvement on offense and he's a massive dropoff on Defense.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Wow. That toughness would have gotten us over matt barnes. Im sure.

you say that like you know anything about the story. Rice got shot. he ran from the cops because the cops pop sucking asses wanted to pin him on with some kind of intrusive charge. you bet your ass that's the kind of toughness the spurs were missing when barnes was punking their "tough man" Banger.

[100%duncan]

you say that like you know anything about the story. Rice got shot. he ran from the cops because the cops pop sucking asses wanted to pin him on with some kind of intrusive charge. you bet your ass that's the kind of toughness the spurs were missing when barnes was punking their "tough man" Banger.

I was serious, tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

you say that like you know anything about the story. Rice got shot. he ran from the cops because the cops pop sucking asses wanted to pin him on with some kind of intrusive charge. you bet your ass that's the kind of toughness the spurs were missing when barnes was punking their "tough man" Banger.What "intrusive charge," counselor?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Lol calm your shit dude.

I don't really see what scrub could realistically replace Danny anyway. Anyone who can't even get into a 12 man rotation in the regular season surely isn't going to outperform Danny in the playoffs, even if DG is playing awful.

As bad as DG has been so far this season, he's still a better SG than a lot of the others in the league. Who would we realistically be able to get on a 15th man contract who could play as good as even a bad Danny Green?

The only thing that's really changed is his shot's not falling. He still spaces the floor correctly, plays good D and does things that I doubt any minimum contract scrub could bring to a high intensity playoff game.

Also as bad as Danny Green is, Glen Rice Jr has shot like 25% from the field and from 3 so far. DG might be having a massive drop off shooting barely 33% from 3 but Glen Rice Jr isn't an improvement on offense and he's a massive dropoff on Defense.

you have a small mind. you think the league is full of educated professionals who know what their doing. i'm tellin you man... the league is full of educated fools who would rather mold clay into some inferior structure than use the big clay ball for whatever it can do.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

What "intrusive charge," counselor?

Rice was also charged with a crime from the incident -- permitting unlawful operation of a vehicle. He was kicked off the Georgia Tech basketball team as a result.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I was serious, tbh.

you're using the wrong color.

[100%duncan]

you're using the wrong color.

That's because I was indeed serious

[DrunkTXLabrat]

That's because I was indeed serious

good, i'm glad to see somebody in here has a brain in their skull

[ChumpDumper]

Rice was also charged with a crime from the incident -- permitting unlawful operation of a vehicle. He was kicked off the Georgia Tech basketball team as a result.What "intrusive charge" did they want to pin on him?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

What "intrusive charge" did they want to pin on him?

the one they fucking pinned on him chump!

[ChumpDumper]

the one they fucking pinned on him chump!That's not intrusive. That's a perfectly reasonable charge for being such a dumbass.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Rice was also charged with a crime from the incident -- permitting unlawful operation of a vehicle. He was kicked off the Georgia Tech basketball team as a result.
ChumpDumper do you speak english? is this somehow not clear? do i need to redundantly type Rice Jr. was intrusively charged with permitting unlawful operation of a vehicle?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

That's not intrusive. That's a perfectly reasonable charge for being such a dumbass.

feel the bern you sheep. when they come to shave your ass, smile and hold it up high.

[ChumpDumper]

ChumpDumper do you speak english? is this somehow not clear? do i need to redundantly type Rice Jr. was intrusively charged with permitting unlawful operation of a vehicle?Yes, you do need to explain how the charge is "intrusive."

Do you need a link to a dictionary site?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

chump i bet you hate johnny football for being a human being too? you realize that sports is about sports right? Glen Rice Jr. balled on the spurs in a summer league game, ya know who else balled in summer league that has spurs fans creaming their pants... Simmons. that's right... it's possible that the balling that Glen Rice Jr. did in summer league could translate to balling in regular season play.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Yes, you do need to explain how the charge is "intrusive."

Do you need a link to a dictionary site?

it's intrusive because the government can kiss his ass, that's why. if the guy wants to operate a vehicle or have a friend operate his vehicle... all other parties can go to hell. if there is a liability issue, it's for the insurance companies to decide. was there an accident involving the vehicles? outside of some blood in the interior, i don't think so. it's intrusive because there was really no public service served by sweating a man who's been shot.

[exstatic]

I don't care about any charges against Rice, "intrusive" or otherwise. He shoots 25 fucking percent from three and is a far inferior defender to Green. End of rational discussion.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I don't care about any charges against Rice, "intrusive" or otherwise. He shoots 25 fucking percent from three and is a far inferior defender to Green. End of rational discussion.

i'll give you credit ex, at least you're talking about basketball

[ChumpDumper]

chump i bet you hate johnny football for being a human being too?I don't hate either one of them for being dumbasses. I find it rather amusing.
you realize that sports is about sports right? Glen Rice Jr. balled on the spurs in a summer league game, ya know who else balled in summer league that has spurs fans creaming their pants... Simmons. that's right... it's possible that the balling that Glen Rice Jr. did in summer league could translate to balling in regular season play.Did Simmons do this on national TV?
GSnpBdmZ6gs

lol

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i'll give you credit ex, at least you're talking about basketball

my problem with you is, your take on his percentage is based on low value numbers. what was Glen Rice Jr.s % in rivalry games, winning/losing streak beginner/enders? i bet it was close to whatever it was in the summer league playoffs.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I don't hate either one of them for being dumbasses. I find it rather amusing.Did Simmons do this on national TV?
GSnpBdmZ6gs

lol

i'd give the exact same amount of a damn, if he did.

[ChumpDumper]

i'd give the exact same amount of a damn, if he did.That wasn't my question.

Did Simmons do anything like this on national TV?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

That wasn't my question.

Did Simmons do anything like this on national TV?

i have no idea.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i have no idea.

i hope so, actually

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i hope so, actually

i bet not, based on the way poop loves to sniff his jock strap

[ChumpDumper]

i have no idea.Of course you don't.


i hope so, actuallyOf course you do.

Why?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Of course you don't.

Of course you do.

Why?

because it would be unique

[ChumpDumper]

because it would be uniqueThis is yet another reason you are not an NBA GM.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

because it would be unique

call me drunk, but i like the athletes that are on my favorite sports teams to be unique individuals. i like my favorite sports teams to be appreciative of their uniqueness. i think such being and appreciation results in victory. except that this is a bern capped world. and ever moreso a bern capped world, every day. even still, i like to think my embracedly unique teams can reshape this ever bern capped world.

[ChumpDumper]

call me drunk, but i like the athletes that are on my favorite sports teams to be unique individuals. i like my favorite sports teams to be appreciative of their uniqueness. i think such being and appreciation results in victory. except that this is a bern capped world. and ever moreso a bern capped world, every day. even still, i like to think my embracedly unique teams can reshape this ever bern capped world.I don't think you are drunk.

I think you are wholly lacking in any judgment regarding professional basketball players.

[Neurosis]

you have a small mind. you think the league is full of educated professionals who know what their doing. i'm tellin you man... the league is full of educated fools who would rather mold clay into some inferior structure than use the big clay ball for whatever it can do.

What makes you think Glen Rice Jr would be better than Danny Green?

[ChumpDumper]

What makes you think Glen Rice Jr would be better than Danny Green?Because when the pressure is on, he shoves women to the ground.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Because when the pressure is on, he shoves women to the ground.

funny that the very next season, the spurs summer league team is coached by a lady

[Neurosis]

Because when the pressure is on, he shoves women to the ground.

:lol

[DrunkTXLabrat]

What makes you think Glen Rice Jr would be better than Danny Green?

i don't necessarily think Glen Rice Jr. is better than Danny Green. i just think that when Danny Green was slumping in the clipper series. i would have rather had poop not turning to Glen Rice Jr., like he shoulda. instead of not going to Reggie Williams, the way he did.

[ChumpDumper]

funny that the very next season, the spurs summer league team is coached by a ladySo he would shove Becky to the ground.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

So he would shove Becky to the ground.

he woulda shoved her bitch ass squad outta the summer league playoffs

[Neurosis]

i don't necessarily think Glen Rice Jr. is better than Danny Green. i just think that when Danny Green was slumping in the clipper series, i would have rather poop didn't go to Glen Rice Jr. like he shoulda instead of not going to Reggie Williams.

:lol

[DrunkTXLabrat]

he woulda shoved her bitch ass squad outta the summer league playoffs

Kyle Anderson was Summer league mvp because Glen Rice Jr. showed him how it was done, basically.

[ChumpDumper]

he woulda shoved her bitch ass squad outta the summer league playoffsHe lost in the first round.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

he woulda shoved her bitch ass squad outta the summer league playoffs

actually he wouldn't have, that squad had a lot of players the spurs should have rostered.

[ChumpDumper]

actually he wouldn't have, that squad had a lot of players the spurs should have rostered.Actually he lost in the first round.

[exstatic]

Actually, when the SAS signed Simmons, they had 16 guaranteed contracts, and no room for summer leaguers.

[exstatic]

I don't think you are drunk.

I think you are wholly lacking in any judgment regarding professional basketball players.

I think you could have put the period after 'judgment'.

[GSH]

So he would shove Becky to the ground.


Holy shit, you're on a tear tonight. :lol

[DrunkTXLabrat]

He lost in the first round.

"a lie isn't a lie, if YOU believe it."

[ChumpDumper]

"a lie isn't a lie, if YOU believe it."So you're trying to believe he didn't lose in the first round?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Actually, when the SAS signed Simmons, they had 16 guaranteed contracts, and no room for summer leaguers.

you miss the point. Bonner, lame, McCullum should be Livio, Caddy, brother Bertans.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

So you're trying to believe he didn't lose in the first round?

you're trying to believe he isn't the original Simmons.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

you're trying to believe he isn't the original Simmons.

You're not alone. and the pressure is surely cracking Rice. i won't deny.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

You're not alone. and the pressure is surely cracking Rice. i won't deny.

I just think it's sad that you prop up false idols and tear down Gods.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

I think you could have put the period after 'judgment'.

what is your defense for a 1st round grizzliesque bounce, from a team that shoulda gone back to back?

[exstatic]

"a lie isn't a lie, if YOU believe it."

You've just perfectly described the psychopathic personality.

[exstatic]

what is your defense for a 1st round grizzliesque bounce, from a team that shoulda gone back to back?

Poor seeding rules (div champ MUST be in top 4). Happened to us in 2006, too, and they changed THAT rule (div champ must be in top 3) the next year, also.

We weren't the only ones fucked over. It just took another round for the Clips to get bounced because of that unnatural first round bloodbath. They were only the 9th team in NBA history to lose when up 3-1.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Poor seeding rules (div champ MUST be in top 4). Happened to us in 2006, too, and they changed THAT rule (div champ must be in top 3) the next year, also.

We weren't the only ones fucked over. It just took another round for the Clips to get bounced because of that unnatural first round bloodbath. They were only the 9th team in NBA history to lose when up 3-1.

i think blaming the rules is an excuse. put it on the spurs. what did the spurs do so wrong to have Blake Griffin blow up the way he did?

[SpursFan86]

There is no fucking way this guy is sober :lmao

[DrunkTXLabrat]

There is no fucking way this guy is sober :lmao

what's your excuse for the Spurs not going back to back last year?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Poor seeding rules (div champ MUST be in top 4). Happened to us in 2006, too, and they changed THAT rule (div champ must be in top 3) the next year, also.

We weren't the only ones fucked over. It just took another round for the Clips to get bounced because of that unnatural first round bloodbath. They were only the 9th team in NBA history to lose when up 3-1.

i can't believe that is your serious answer. blaming it on the seeding is such a cop out. please tell me you can admit that?

[ceperez]

http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/1/20/10792722/can-the-spurs-finish-with-the-best-record-in-the-league

Erler: I was worried about his fit alongside Tim Duncan more so than him in a vacuum. I still don't think his game is terribly efficient and that there is a ceiling offensively with him, Duncan and Tony Parker on the floor together. Aldridge is a better post-up player and defender than I gave him credit for being before he joined the Spurs, but overall I'm pretty lukewarm on him. I think he's already lost some athleticism from his peak years in Portland and I'm kind of concerned about how he runs and his lack of explosiveness. Let's just say I don't see him aging as gracefully as Duncan. Fortunately the Spurs won't need him to be their alpha-dog, they've got Kawhi Leonard for that.

Passos: Call it Richard Jefferson Syndrome, but there were some early concerns. The way he's let the game come to him while playing a key role on a top defense is a testament to the guy's talent and professionalism.




Gomez: I definitely was worried but not about his ability. I thought he would not be happy waiting for shots and scoring 15 a game. I still sort of believe that, but the Spurs have found ways to get him more touches and he's making the most of them. Now it looks like he's the perfect fit next to Leonard.

Itz: For the first month or so I was concerned that not being the best player on the team was going to bother him and that maybe his personality was a poor fit, but he's been fully assimilated into Pop's cult. Now that he's comfortable, we're seeing his game round into form.

Wilco: I had decided to give him until after the Rodeo Road Trip before I allowed myself to even evaluate his performance seriously. So I did well there. But I had thought he'd come out firing on offense and struggle to step up on defense. Not so good there. All in all, he's exceeded my expectations, and he's still getting better.

[Chinook]

God, you're trying to buttress your take with PtR? I'm gonna have to order some more hashtags from Amazon.

[ceperez]

God, you're trying to buttress your take with PtR? I'm gonna have to order some more hashtags from Amazon.

Well, Erler hit the nail on the head, the dude runs like a girl.

[benefactor]

:lol looking to pounding the cock for validation

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol damn, 23 pages???

I was definitely way off about the Spurs' maintaining their success, didn't see it coming, although it's partly due to the schedule..the biggest reason for their success has been Parker playing like a star and 2-way basketball, though, along with Manu doing his thing..I'm still not fully convinced that the 2 of them can sustain this level of play, and it's concerning that the Spurs are still so reliant on them with Aldridge on the team, but ya, that has been a poor take, so far..

The Aldridge takes remain valid, though..he has been the 6th or 7th best player on the team, which is OK, I suppose, but not at the expense of Green becoming a scrub, unfortunately, when you just signed both players to long-term deals..I haven't bumped this thread after any of his bad games, like getting outplayed by Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson, but some idiots actually bump this thread after he has good games vs. terrible teams? :lol at least wait until the playoffs, or wait until he has a nice game vs. the Warriors or Thunder or Cavs(he has sucked in both games involving these teams, so far)..a lot of thirsty posters here..

Fortunately, Tony has turned back the clock and deserves a ton of credit for putting the work in during the off-season..he has been by far the 2nd best player on the team, so far:toast

[BD24]

Is this attention whore still trying to pretend this isn't a shit take. One simple question and answer can tell you if Aldridge was worth it. Are we better than we were last year? Would we be as good as we are now with Splitter instead of Aldridge. It's pretty fucking simple.

[HarlemHeat37]

Is this attention whore still trying to pretend this isn't a shit take. One simple question and answer can tell you if Aldridge was worth it. Are we better than we were last year? Would we be as good as we are now with Splitter instead of Aldridge. It's pretty fucking simple.

The point of this thread was never Splitter vs. Aldridge, I've never once said that:lol..I was 100% in favor of adding Aldridge over any other FA, I have never said otherwise, despite not being a fan of his game..I wasn't in favor of changing the system for him, which is the only point of this thread..the record is irrelevant to my argument point and it's a vanilla point to make..

[BD24]

The point of this thread was never Splitter vs. Aldridge, I've never once said that:lol..I was 100% in favor of adding Aldridge over any other FA, I have never said otherwise, despite not being a fan of his game..I wasn't in favor of changing the system for him, which is the only point of this thread..the record is irrelevant to my argument point and it's a vanilla point to make..
:lol Nice spin. Right your record doesnt matter. I mean obviously we saw last year that records don't matter and are just for vanilla fans.

[DPG21920]

:lol damn, 23 pages???

I was definitely way off about the Spurs' maintaining their success, didn't see it coming, although it's partly due to the schedule..the biggest reason for their success has been Parker playing like a star and 2-way basketball, though, along with Manu doing his thing..I'm still not fully convinced that the 2 of them can sustain this level of play, and it's concerning that the Spurs are still so reliant on them with Aldridge on the team, but ya, that has been a poor take, so far..

The Aldridge takes remain valid, though..he has been the 6th or 7th best player on the team, which is OK, I suppose, but not at the expense of Green becoming a scrub, unfortunately, when you just signed both players to long-term deals..I haven't bumped this thread after any of his bad games, like getting outplayed by Kevin Love and Tristan Thompson, but some idiots actually bump this thread after he has good games vs. terrible teams? :lol at least wait until the playoffs, or wait until he has a nice game vs. the Warriors or Thunder or Cavs(he has sucked in both games involving these teams, so far)..a lot of thirsty posters here..

Fortunately, Tony has turned back the clock and deserves a ton of credit for putting the work in during the off-season..he has been by far the 2nd best player on the team, so far:toast

Aye mang, I sort of get the lense you were looking at this through but I'ma have to disagree on LMA being the 6th or 7th best player. He's probably been 4th and more recently the 2nd. Whole year prob 3rd or 4th.

[HarlemHeat37]

:lol Nice spin. Right your record doesnt matter. I mean obviously we saw last year that records don't matter and are just for vanilla fans.

Spin? That's been my point throughout the thread:lol

People just look at the name of the thread and assume that I don't want Aldridge, which I've literally never said a single time..

I didn't say the record doesn't matter, I said it's irrelevant to my point..I admit the Spurs are much better than I thought they would be, but it's because they added multiple key pieces(not just Aldridge), Parker/Ginobili having resurgences and a really weak league/schedule(which is always the case when you have 2 teams pushing a 70-win pace + OKC with an 8+ MOV)..

[HarlemHeat37]

Aye mang, I sort of get the lense you were looking at this through but I'ma have to disagree on LMA being the 6th or 7th best player. He's probably been 4th and more recently the 2nd. Whole year prob 3rd or 4th.

Among the Spurs, he ranks in the bottom half of every advanced metric but PER(which is kind to players with Aldridge's usage/style), relatively speaking, tbh..

His individual numbers are pretty decent, but all his advanced on/off metrics are meh..

I don't think he has been bad or anything, but I don't think he's been nearly good enough to justify changing the system and marginalizing the 3rd best player from last year..I won't really be convinced until he does it in the WCSFs to the Finals, though..I'll gladly eat it, if that occurs..

[DPG21920]

He ranks in the bottom half of every advanced metric but PER(which is kind to players with Aldridge's usage/style), relatively speaking, tbh..

His individual numbers are pretty decent, but all his advanced on/off metrics are meh..

Danny Green of last year was putting up Draymond Green-level impact, tbh..

I mean, I saw his plus/minus numbers and yeah they aren't good....but his PER & win-share metrics are grading out very well. I'm not putting too much into his PER - because it's going to be great for LMA esp because of the minutes factor (PER using per-minute stats), but overall with the team improvement on defense & softer things like spacing (would love to see gravity numbers for LMA ) I think 6-7 is way too harsh.

[HarlemHeat37]

I don't think it's that harsh..it's not even really a shot at him, too, 6th highest impact on a potential 70-win team having a historically good season isn't a huge deal for a player being integrated in a new system..

I just hope he steps up when it's needed, and alleviates some of the pressure being put on Parker and Ginobili to carry the load..playing against shitty teams(which is most of the NBA, this season) is a different ball game..

[DPG21920]

Well I agree some with that but although TP & Manu are relied upon its not like "traditional" relied upon. Still managing minutes. Still great bench. Still multiple guys stepping up night after night...etc..

For example LMA has the 2nd highest usage rate on the Spurs behind Manu, but that's only good for 43rd-47th high in the league. It's not that taxing for anyone big picture.

[ChumpDumper]

lol this thread

[spurraider21]

https://i.gyazo.com/7396ebd2b351eddee5d2761973146804.png

[dabom]

You still have to give props for raw stats as long as he is playing good defense.

Advance metrics with raw stats and role on the team places LMA around the 3/4th best player.

[sasaint]

I mean, I saw his plus/minus numbers and yeah they aren't good....but his PER & win-share metrics are grading out very well. I'm not putting too much into his PER - because it's going to be great for LMA esp because of the minutes factor (PER using per-minute stats), but overall with the team improvement on defense & softer things like spacing (would love to see gravity numbers for LMA ) I think 6-7 is way too harsh.

1st Tier: Kawhi Leonard

2nd Tier: Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker

3rd Tier: LaMarcus Aldridge, Boris Diaw, David West

Alphabetical order. How each player ranks within his tier is splitting a personal hair.

[SAGirl]

https://i.gyazo.com/7396ebd2b351eddee5d2761973146804.png
Very relevant. There were adjustment pains early. Not just the system, but all new teammates and he was differing to Tim. He's been better and looks more comfortable. I don't think the Danny issue is related to LMA at all. That is where I completely disagree with Harlem. Danny got paid, his role was apparently going to expand as an adjustment to less reliance on Manu bc no one could have predicted that Simmons, who looked so poor in preseason that there were actual doubts he would even make the team and Anderson, who some have never believed in and who has a very unique game that is nothing like Manu's, could contribute more than Danny. POP's plan for Danny didn't work out and Danny's now trying to find his confidence and his game back.

Regardless of fit with Tim, we needed a jumpshooting big. Tim at this point is on loan. It might truly be his last season (although some take him for granted and assume he'll be back.) And he was going to decrease his load as he's aged. It's possible without LMA this season we are not even as good as last season and we were not great last season to begin with. despite Tim's terrific year.

[Tully365]

So... Was he worth it? I feel like only a contrarian would say no.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Harlem will have to use some troll account for these edgy takes. Slipped on this one.

[Tully365]

Harlem will have to use some troll account for these edgy takes. Slipped on this one.

Yep. Just a :lol tbh or two & he'll be all set.

[midnightpulp]

Among the Spurs, he ranks in the bottom half of every advanced metric but PER(which is kind to players with Aldridge's usage/style), relatively speaking, tbh..

His individual numbers are pretty decent, but all his advanced on/off metrics are meh..

I don't think he has been bad or anything, but I don't think he's been nearly good enough to justify changing the system and marginalizing the 3rd best player from last year..I won't really be convinced until he does it in the WCSFs to the Finals, though..I'll gladly eat it, if that occurs..

Do you have LMA's RAPM number this year? I think the fact that RPM takes player history into account is hurting his rating there.

Per NBA.com's stats, LMA is 2nd among the starters in PIE (not sure how much stock you put in that stat), 1st in rebound rate, 4th in NETRTG, 3rd in raw +/-, and he features in all of the best Spurs 5 man lineups that have played over 20 minutes together.

Maybe being backed up by West (who is LMA-lite and has a pretty big advantage over the opposing team's backup PF, who is usually a scrub) is hurting some of his on/off metrics?

[ChumpDumper]

So Harlem's argument is that LMA's not worth it because Danny Green had a shooting slump.

Edgy.

[ceperez]

Just great. Another poor performance by Aldridge with both Duncan and Parker not playing.

Boxscore: http://www.nba.com/games/20160121/SASPHX/gameinfo.html?ls=iref:nba:scoreboard

21 minutes, 3-9 shooting, 7 points, 1 turn over, blocked once. Looks like he had trouble against the longer more athletic Chandler and Len.

How many games do the fans have to endure before fans realize that he has been playing below par. Absolutely without argument playing poorer than David West (who incidentally Spurs are paying less than 1/10th the salary).

Even scrub, Boban Marjanovic (paid less than $1.5m) performed much better.

Boban's stats 21 minutes, 6-10 shooting, 5-6 FTM, 13 rebounds, 17 points.

He just hasn't the kind of motor that the other Spurs have.

Definitely playing below my expectations. (He hasn't been injured so he's much better than Splitter)

Let's hope he doesn't lay yet another egg against the Lakers. Even worse, lay an egg against the Dubs.

[ceperez]

Finally, this is a complete cop out: http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Another-Spurs-victory-and-no-regrets-for-6776302.php?t=88c05a9c9b927fc3fb

I don't expect LMA to just contribute, I expect him to play like an all-star. Talk about BS!

You don't work your ass off because you want to be the man, you work your ass of because you want to contribute.

His head is just screwed on wrong.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

Finally, this is a complete cop out: http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Another-Spurs-victory-and-no-regrets-for-6776302.php?t=88c05a9c9b927fc3fb

I don't expect LMA to just contribute, I expect him to play like an all-star. Talk about BS!

You don't work your ass off because you want to be the man, you work your ass of because you want to contribute.

His head is just screwed on wrong.

He plays when he has to. When the Spurs were stinking it up against the Mavs, LMA put the Spurs on his back. LMA still has that ability. But yes, they will need him to do that more going forward. But despite his poor performance, the Spurs still won by 28 last night. That is how deep the Spurs are. Its ridiculous to say the least.

[ceperez]

He plays when he has to. When the Spurs were stinking it up against the Mavs, LMA put the Spurs on his back. LMA still has that ability. But yes, they will need him to do that more going forward. But despite his poor performance, the Spurs still won by 28 last night. That is how deep the Spurs are. Its ridiculous to say the least.

WTF? I don't think Leonard was taking the night off.

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

WTF? I don't think Leonard was taking the night off.

Pop agrees with you as well and so do I. But its real evident from were I am sitting, LMA doesn't care to score right now unless he has to. He scored like 6 points in the 1st quarter and then he didn't want to ball after that. Once the Spurs got a big lead, he was just coasting on offense. He still played great D last night.

I rather him save the big games for when the Spurs need it, like the Mavs game where he was the one that got the ball rolling for the Spurs.

[ceperez]

Pop agrees with you as well and so do I. But its real evident from were I am sitting, LMA doesn't care to score right now unless he has to. He scored like 6 points in the 1st quarter and then he didn't want to ball after that. Once the Spurs got a big lead, he was just coasting on offense. He still played great D last night.

I rather him save the big games for when the Spurs need it, like the Mavs game where he was the one that got the ball rolling for the Spurs.

"save the big games for when the Spurs need it"??? He's 30 years old, he supposed to be at his prime.

The guy like everyone else his age should be working their butt off to improve their game. It isn't like he's shown some consistency lately.

[ChumpDumper]

lol #ceperez mad

[Cowboys_Wear_Spurs]

"save the big games for when the Spurs need it"??? He's 30 years old, he supposed to be at his prime.

The guy like everyone else his age should be working their butt off to improve their game. It isn't like he's shown some consistency lately.

Defensively, he has the best Def Eff rating of any PF in the league. LMA more than likely should make an All NBA defensive Team. Probably both him and Duncan with Kawhi and Green should make it. Kawhi #1 for SF. Green #1 for SG. Mills at #1 for PGs. All the Spurs player hold the a #1 spot for the respective positions.

So the fact that LMA has been beasting on D, is really why I am not disappointed with his offense thus far. But yes, he does need to start at least getting 15 a night on nights like last night. But 28 point win, its hard to say he was the reason the Spurs didn't win by 40.

[Tully365]

https://i.gyazo.com/7396ebd2b351eddee5d2761973146804.png

[ceperez]

Defensively, he has the best Def Eff rating of any PF in the league. LMA more than likely should make an All NBA defensive Team. Probably both him and Duncan with Kawhi and Green should make it. Kawhi #1 for SF. Green #1 for SG. Mills at #1 for PGs. All the Spurs player hold the a #1 spot for the respective positions.

So the fact that LMA has been beasting on D, is really why I am not disappointed with his offense thus far. But yes, he does need to start at least getting 15 a night on nights like last night. But 28 point win, its hard to say he was the reason the Spurs didn't win by 40.

He's got size and he's got talent.

What he doesn't have is work ethic. He is lazy.

[GSH]

He's got size and he's got talent.

What he doesn't have is work ethic. He is lazy.


I've read articles from every possible source. Coaches comments. You're the only one who's noticed that he is lazy. You need to quit Radio Shack and go into coaching.

[ceperez]

I've read articles from every possible source. Coaches comments. You're the only one who's noticed that he is lazy. You need to quit Radio Shack and go into coaching.

If you were to rank Spurs players based on game time effort, what would that look like?

Leonard <-- work horse
Mills
Parker
Ginobili
Simmons
Duncan
Marjanovic
West
Anderson
Butler
McCallum
Bonner
Green
Diaw
Aldridge <-- lazy

[GSH]

If you were to rank Spurs players based on game time effort, what would that look like?

Leonard <-- work horse
Mills
Parker
Ginobili
Simmons
Duncan
Marjanovic
West
Anderson
Butler
McCallum
Bonner
Green
Diaw
Aldridge <-- lazy


If you were to rate Radio Shacks, in order of their supply of diodes, what would that list look like?

Stand-alone store
Strip center
Mall

[ceperez]

If you were to rate Radio Shacks, in order of their supply of diodes, what would that list look like?

Stand-alone store
Strip center
Mall

Ignore the truth all you want. In the last 3 games, he has scored less than 7 twice and shot % less than 34%.

That "unenthused" play is just not acceptable for a max level player.

Which players was Pop referring to when he said: "The starters weren't all that enthused."

I can only think of Aldridge and Green.

[SpursforSix]

Ignore the truth all you want. In the last 3 games, he has scored less than 7 twice and shot % less than 34%.

That "unenthused" play is just not acceptable for a max level player.

do you for real work at Radio Shack? Do you guys carry a Spirit Box? I heard on a podcast that you did and I thought that was a damn odd product to have on the shelf. Do many people coming in looking for one?

[Mr Bones]

37-6. The best start ever for the most successful franchise in American sports the past 15 years.

12 game winning streak.

Historic point differential.

Aldridge shooting just above his career FG% for season, above his FG%s of the past three years, far above career FG% for December & January, leading the team in rebounding, playing best defense of his career. He also has one of the lowest turnover rates for PFs in the league.

RC & Pop made the best possible moves imaginable in the off season.

[BillMc]

37-6. The best start ever for the most successful franchise in American sports the past 15 years.

12 game winning streak.

Historic point differential.

Aldridge shooting just above his career FG% for season, above his FG%s of the past three years, far above career FG% for December & January, leading the team in rebounding, playing best defense of his career. He also has one of the lowest turnover rates for PFs in the league.

RC & Pop made the best possible moves imaginable in the off season.

This.

[BillMc]

Love West to LMA for the ferocious slam at about 1:05 here.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4704Op7Ze38

Nice job last summer RC.

[ceperez]

37-6. The best start ever for the most successful franchise in American sports the past 15 years.

12 game winning streak.

Historic point differential.

Aldridge shooting just above his career FG% for season, above his FG%s of the past three years, far above career FG% for December & January, leading the team in rebounding, playing best defense of his career. He also has one of the lowest turnover rates for PFs in the league.

RC & Pop made the best possible moves imaginable in the off season.

Because:

(1) Kawhi is playing at an all-star level
(2) The bench is playing like the 2nd or 3rd best team in the NBA.

LMA just happens to be along for the ride.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Boban, Simmons, West, and a little faith in Anderson are the best additions of the offseason. I can only imagine how much better they'd be with Splitter and Cojo still around. maybe then the spurs coulda had Biyombo, Matt Barnes, and Ray Allen instead of lame, boner, and butt.

[BillMc]

Stein has LMA as an all-star reserve.

http://espn.go.com/blog/marc-stein/post/_/id/4264/steins-ballot-for-all-star-reserve-selections

[ChumpDumper]

Totally worth it.

[ceperez]

Boban, Simmons, West, and a little faith in Anderson are the best additions of the offseason. I can only imagine how much better they'd be with Splitter and Cojo still around. maybe then the spurs coulda had Biyombo, Matt Barnes, and Ray Allen instead of lame, boner, and butt.

Jury still out on LMA. I prefer to wait till the end of the month vs Warriors, Rockets and Cavs.

Incidentally, speaking about Cavs... David Blatt got fired.

[BillMc]

Jury still out on LMA. I prefer to wait till the end of the month vs Warriors, Rockets and Cavs.

Incidentally, speaking about Cavs... David Blatt got fired.

It's true.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14627529/david-blatt-fired-cleveland-cavaliers-coach

Weird call given that the team responded well after the Dub beat down.

LeBron's fingerprints on this, I suspect.

[houston spurs fan]

It's true.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14627529/david-blatt-fired-cleveland-cavaliers-coach

Weird call given that the team responded well after the Dub beat down.

LeBron's fingerprints on this, I suspect.
Damn.

[ceperez]

It's true.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14627529/david-blatt-fired-cleveland-cavaliers-coach

Weird call given that the team responded well after the Dub beat down.

LeBron's fingerprints on this, I suspect.

Panic mode now for Cavs. Despite beating up the Clippers, they realized that they can't compete against GSW.

They are pretty much finished. Tyrone Lue is their head coach.

Speaking about Clippers.... they dumped Josh Smith. Panic mode over there too.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Jury still out on LMA. I prefer to wait till the end of the month vs Warriors, Rockets and Cavs.

Incidentally, speaking about Cavs... David Blatt got fired.

no jury necessary. the real test is the warriors, and i know he's gonna fail.

[ceperez]

no jury necessary. the real test is the warriors, and i know he's gonna fail.

Dude, have a little faith on that Diva.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Dude, have a little faith on that Diva.

never.

[BillMc]

Panic mode now for Cavs. Despite beating up the Clippers, they realized that they can't compete against GSW.

They are pretty much finished. Tyrone Lue is their head coach.

Speaking about Clippers.... they dumped Josh Smith. Panic mode over there too.

When Tyrone Lue and Josh Smith are your respective saviors....Yes, its panic mode. :lol

[ceperez]

When Tyrone Lue and Josh Smith are your respective saviors....Yes, its panic mode. :lol

You got that wrong... Clippers got Jeff Ayres as their savior.

[BillMc]

You got that wrong... Clippers got Jeff Ayres as their savior.

I didn't get that wrong. I was referring to the return of Josh Smith as a supposed reason to turn around Houston's season.

[Tully365]

Because:

(1) Kawhi is playing at an all-star level
(2) The bench is playing like the 2nd or 3rd best team in the NBA.

LMA just happens to be along for the ride.
I don't agree, but what move could the Spurs have made that would have been better?

[toki9]

It's true.

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/14627529/david-blatt-fired-cleveland-cavaliers-coach

Weird call given that the team responded well after the Dub beat down.

LeBron's fingerprints on this, I suspect.

Well, didn't LeBron want Tyronn Lue in the first place? Windhorst's report saying that LeBron wasn't consulted has to be total smokescreen. They wouldn't have given Lue a new 3-year contract without getting some kind of signal from LeBron.

[ceperez]

I didn't get that wrong. I was referring to the return of Josh Smith as a supposed reason to turn around Houston's season.

Oh... I thought Houston's season was over a long time ago.

[ceperez]

Well, didn't LeBron want Tyronn Lue in the first place? Windhorst's report saying that LeBron wasn't consulted has to be total smokescreen. They wouldn't have given Lue a new 3-year contract without getting some kind of signal from LeBron.

Speaking about Tyronne Lue, what 'school of coaching' is he from anyway? Is he from Doc Rivers school?

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Jury still out on LMA. I prefer to wait till the end of the month vs Warriors, Rockets and Cavs.

Incidentally, speaking about Cavs... David Blatt got fired.

the guy was a hack. promoting a rule change to get rid of the hack game, during the side line interview... but not until after he finishes using the hack game for the night. what a fraud. maybe he can get a gig with the feelin the bern campaign. those thieves can promote educated robbery together, for a mass of sheep like chump and ex.

[benefactor]

ceperez and Drunktxlabrat are adorable...like two retards splashing around in a mud puddle, sword fighting with their dicks.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

ceperez and Drunktxlabrat are adorable...like two retards splashing around in a mud puddle, sword fighting with their dicks.

it's a lot more fun than sipping wine and squandering potential with the educated fools. you should try it.

[ChumpDumper]

lol Glen Rice Jr.

[ceperez]

ceperez and Drunktxlabrat are adorable...like two retards splashing around in a mud puddle, sword fighting with their dicks.

Let me remind me of your shitty takes:


Calm down beaner. Let's not eat ourselves into a coma in celebration just yet.

He's a nice looking prospect who hasn't played a single minute in a real NBA game...nothing more or less.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

lol Glen Rice Jr.

if you can't have Ray Allen or Derek Fisher... you should try to find somebody with that kind of potential.

[ChumpDumper]

"Wait and see" isn't a shitty take.

[ChumpDumper]

if you can't have Ray Allen or Derek Fisher... you should try to find somebody with that kind of potential.He didn't have that kind of potential.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

He didn't have that kind of potential.

you don't have that kind of potential

[ChumpDumper]

you don't have that kind of potentialNo one said I did.

[ceperez]

"Wait and see" isn't a shitty take.

I find that lack of faith at the Vicarage of Jonathon Simmons extremely disturbing.

That's a shitty take that you shouldn't be proud of.

[ChumpDumper]

I find that lack of faith at the Vicarage of Jonathon Simmons extremely disturbing.You make the mistake of thinking you matter.


That's a shitty take that you shouldn't be proud of.lol take pride

[DrunkTXLabrat]

Tim Duncan should have been the Bill Russell of our time. Poop has almost sabotaged it with a hatred of youth and a love of scrubs. Poops career is like jar jars battle scenes in phantom menace.

[ceperez]

You make the mistake of thinking you matter.

lol take pride

Man... you must be a very lonely person.