Trade Deadline Watch

[DPG21920]

I think OKC lost. Vertical says they gave up Payne too.

From a win-now perspective? Taj > Payne with Russ playing a ton of minutes and Payne not doing much so far. But long-term? Decent gamble by Bulls to see if Payne truly is starter quality for a big who's good but clearly hit his ceiling and is due another deal next year.

[SAGirl]

Paul George might be a better fit for Boston, but Butler has been the far better player this year with worse supporting cast..

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C5XfMpIUYAItRwb.jpg
What an eye opener.
Bulls should hold on to him.

Gar-Pax are horrible...

[DPG21920]

Pacers, while it may hurt PG's value some, can trade PG next year or during draft as well. I get BOS not making moves for the same reason on the other side of the equation.

But damn, these idiots out East scared to build a team to compete with CLE. Sucks.

I like what every single team in our division did to varying degrees. They all improved and some (NO) have insane ceilings.

[sasaint]

Ya, maybe if you know for a fact that he'll take a long-term deal, but it sounds like he's going to the Lakers within the next 2 years according to virtually every credible source, so far..

Yeah. Plenty of time for him change his mind, but if a guy wants to go home, that can be a powerful motivator. See: Carmelo Anthony.

[sasaint]

From a win-now perspective? Taj > Payne with Russ playing a ton of minutes and Payne not doing much so far. But long-term? Decent gamble by Bulls to see if Payne truly is starter quality for a big who's good but clearly hit his ceiling and is due another deal next year.

Yeah, I think OKC did themselves a real solid. Both Taj and McDermott are likely to do well there.

[SAGirl]

Why would Spurs fans want Noel? I like his game, but the Spurs already have 5 quality bigs:lol The entire foundation of the team is built around the bigs..

Bc of the troll and schtick game...

They would also give up what depth the team has at the wings and the draft pick for him... so good luck playing manu 30 minutes etc... and bringing up flotsam from the dleague. Likely Garino and others....

then Noel needs to be paid in the offseason and the Spurs are basically in the same situation Philly was this season with a glut of bigs and no perimeter players. :lmao

The armchair GM of spurtalk! :toast

[gambit1990]

butler is under contract for three more seasons. the bulls are a mess.


george still has two.


really disappointed that rose/rubio deal didn't happen. and they kept melo. can't help but feel bad for porzingis. the two are stunting his growth.


atlanta fucked up by waiting too long to be willing to trade their players. and their plan is to try to resign millsap this summer :lol for what? so they can be in the same place are now?


while the pelicans, rockets, thunder got better.


playoff seeding should be #1-#16.

[TheGreatYacht]

Interest in Noel is a troll/schtick?

lmao I don't think this person knows what those words mean

[TD 21]

- Noel to Mavericks is good news on Dedmon front. I had they pegged as the team most likely to make him an exorbitant offer.

- Nice trade by Cuban-Nelson, to get a starting center, who fits well with Nowitzki, for either a 19th or worse 1st or 2 2nds and Anderson, who had become expendable with emergence of Finney-Smith

- Colangelo was in tough spot and probably did as well as possible, but still an underwhelming return, though Anderson could end up in the mold of Crowder/Tucker

- Excellent work by Ujiri to once again fill a need, at a good price. Top end (mainly DeRozan) isn't good enough to win championship, but roster balance is no longer an issue

- Terrible job by Ainge. Getting George for 2 runs would have increased odds of keeping him from bolting to Lakers. They need to stop acting as if they're sitting on future dynasty and get him or Butler in off season

- Terrible job by Forman-Paxson, but good job by Presti, to get much needed wing shooter/scorer, plus upgrade starting power forward (though a Adams-Gibson-Roberson frontline provides zero spacing), for backup point guard and fourth big

[sasaint]

- Noel to Mavericks is good news on Dedmon front. I had they pegged as the team most likely to make him an exorbitant offer.

- Nice trade by Cuban-Nelson, to get a starting center, who fits well with Nowitzki, for either a 19th or worse 1st or 2 2nds and Anderson, who had become expendable with emergence of Finney-Smith

- Colangelo was in tough spot and probably did as well as possible, but still an underwhelming return, though Anderson could end up in the mold of Crowder/Tucker

- Excellent work by Ujiri to once again fill a need, at a good price. Top end (mainly DeRozan) isn't good enough to win championship, but roster balance is no longer an issue

- Terrible job by Ainge. Getting George for 2 runs would have increased odds of keeping him from bolting to Lakers. They need to stop acting as if they're sitting on future dynasty and get him or Butler in off season

- Terrible job by Forman-Paxson, but good job by Presti, to get much needed wing shooter/scorer, plus upgrade starting power forward (though a Adams-Gibson-Roberson frontline provides zero spacing), for backup point guard and fourth big

Good recap. :tu

Oh yeah, Suns... standing virtually pat?!?!

[r0drig0lac]

- Noel to Mavericks is good news on Dedmon front. I had they pegged as the team most likely to make him an exorbitant offer.

- Nice trade by Cuban-Nelson, to get a starting center, who fits well with Nowitzki, for either a 19th or worse 1st or 2 2nds and Anderson, who had become expendable with emergence of Finney-Smith

- Colangelo was in tough spot and probably did as well as possible, but still an underwhelming return, though Anderson could end up in the mold of Crowder/Tucker

- Excellent work by Ujiri to once again fill a need, at a good price. Top end (mainly DeRozan) isn't good enough to win championship, but roster balance is no longer an issue

- Terrible job by Ainge. Getting George for 2 runs would have increased odds of keeping him from bolting to Lakers. They need to stop acting as if they're sitting on future dynasty and get him or Butler in off season

- Terrible job by Forman-Paxson, but good job by Presti, to get much needed wing shooter/scorer, plus upgrade starting power forward (though a Adams-Gibson-Roberson frontline provides zero spacing), for backup point guard and fourth big
agree

[cd98]

Winner, me the owner of some good tickets to the Spurs/Pacers game. I picked those tickets because I thought it would be great to see the Kawhi/George duel (after also choosing Bucks tickets to see the Greek v. Kawhi...but that failed miserably).

[SAGirl]

Larry trying to overcome the stigma of the G Hill trade, but trying against the wrong GM. :lol
:lmaothis
was soooooo funny sasaint.
Such a good joke!
:toast

[sasaint]

:lmaothis
was soooooo funny sasaint.
Such a good joke!
:toast

:lol An appreciative audience of 1... Thanks SAGirl! :toast

[tmtcsc]

Cameron Payne has got to be one of the worst NBA players I've ever seen play. Sure, there have been worse players, but he came to the Thunder with high expectations and just completely sucked. The funny thing is, he thinks he's good. HE'S BEEN AWFUL. While most Thunder players found another level against the Spurs in the playoffs, that dude just consistently shit the bed. Lol. Good luck Chicago.

[SAGirl]

834851401238986755

GarPax :lmao
mcbuckets
has no problem scoring against the Spurs bench TBH and Gibson is no cookie.
... good move for OKC...

If I am Jimmy Buckets I am crying right now ... :lmao

[tbdog]

Trade deadline passed?

[marinoman]

Poor Russ, he's going to miss his dance partner and that Mountain Dew commercial took a hit too

[sasaint]

mcbuckets
has no problem scoring against the Spurs bench TBH and Gibson is no cookie.
... good move for OKC...

If I am Jimmy Buckets I am crying right now ... :lmao

I wish the Spurs would have made a serious run for him.

[sasaint]

Trade deadline passed?

Yes.

[SAGirl]

:lmao Boston standing pat
this
trade thread has been insanely entertaining.
thanks for your updates my friend.
:toast

[SAGirl]

Good recap. :tu

Oh yeah, Suns... standing virtually pat?!?!
I
only saw a tweet here that they tried to move Knights horrible contract but they still wanted a pick (high 2nd) and an expiring contract. Heh!
Someone (baam) remarked they probably need to be the ones sending out a pick for someone to take Knight in.

[sasaint]

I
only saw a tweet here that they tried to move Knights horrible contract but they still wanted a pick (high 2nd) and an expiring contract. Heh!
Someone (baam) remarked they probably need to be the ones sending out a pick for someone to take Knight in.

How many starting guards around the league have passed through Phoenix? Then the debacle of the Morris twins. Team is a train wreck, and there is no light at all at the end of that tunnel. As a Spurs fan who can remember when the Suns were serious competition, I really feel sorry for that fan base.

[Chinook]

Bradley is not an expiring.

[DPG21920]

I would much rather have Terrence Jones over Bogut in the event of a buyout. Dream scenario would be both Jones and Tyreke get bought out and Spurs waive Anthony and Forbes to obtain them.

[DPG21920]

Spurs must have been in super secret mode. Normally, even if they don't make a move, you get a few tidbits about some surprising inquiries (either for SA players or by SA themselves). Has not been a damn mention of SA really :lol

[SAGirl]

I would much rather have Terrence Jones over Bogut in the event of a buyout. Dream scenario would be both Jones and Tyreke get bought out and Spurs waive Anthony and Forbes to obtain them.
I have nothing against them and no real attachment to Anthony or Forbes.. but these guys... you have to think in terms of who in the rotation, which minutes they are getting. If you can't envision anyone in the rotation you would rather displace for them there really is no point in them displacing marginal players 13th to 15th. Maybe Tyreke has a spot over Simmons, that is it.

I am not opposed to this, but to displace guys who really don't play most of the season.. that makes no sense.. not even for the FA you want to join the team. They need playing time to earn their next deal. I would not want to get over to the Spurs and be hoping to get in the game in garbage time with the Spurs youngsters. If that is really what these guys are looking at right now they are not joining the Spurs.

Both Jones and Tyreke are going to want playing time.

[palangi]

Spurs must have been in super secret mode. Normally, even if they don't make a move, you get a few tidbits about some surprising inquiries (either for SA players or by SA themselves). Has not been a damn mention of SA really :lol
There was no one old enough or slow enough for us to go after

[DPG21920]

I have nothing against them and no real attachment to Anthony or Forbes.. but these guys... you have to think in terms of who in the rotation, which minutes they are getting. If you can't envision anyone in the rotation you would rather displace for them there really is no point in them displacing marginal players 13th to 15th. Maybe Tyreke has a spot over Simmons, that is it.

I am not opposed to this, but to displace guys who really don't play most of the season.. that makes no sense.. not even for the FA you want to join the team. They need playing time to earn their next deal. I would not want to get over to the Spurs and be hoping to get in the game in garbage time with the Spurs youngsters. If that is really what these guys are looking at right now they are not joining the Spurs.

Both Jones and Tyreke are going to want playing time.

Sure, but having depth is a great thing with aging AND unproductive guards like TP/Manu (much of the time). Then from the frontcourt, Gasol is older, Anthony has no reason to be on the team and Jones is about versatility.

I can see why Jones/Tyreke might not choose SA but SA should definitely choose them even if they don't end up playing a second. They are wayyyyyyy better than Forbes/Anthony.

However, it's moot since it looks like Tyreke, despite SAC having Buddy and all the other guards is staying put.

[venitian navigator]

imho Evans and Bogut are the ones to take a look at.

[SAGirl]

Sure, but having depth is a great thing with aging AND unproductive guards like TP/Manu (much of the time). Then from the frontcourt, Gasol is older, Anthony has no reason to be on the team and Jones is about versatility.

I can see why Jones/Tyreke might not choose SA but SA should definitely choose them even if they don't end up playing a second. They are wayyyyyyy better than Forbes/Anthony.

However, it's moot since it looks like Tyreke, despite SAC having Buddy and all the other guards is staying put.
For Jones, the reason he asked .. asked.... to be waived is so that he could get a rotation spot elsewhere.
Tyreke has been brittle himself lately. He's had multiple surgeries recently and is less durable than even the old guards you mention and he's going to want playing time too.

Anyways... I don't see either in the Spurs.

[TheDoctor]

Spurs must have been in super secret mode. Normally, even if they don't make a move, you get a few tidbits about some surprising inquiries (either for SA players or by SA themselves). Has not been a damn mention of SA really :lol

Just linked to Bogut till now.

[DPG21920]

Agreed - that is why I said it was my dream scenario :lol

[sasaint]

There was no one old enough or slow enough for us to go after

:lmao

[TheGreatYacht]

There was no one old enough or slow enough for us to go after
:lmao

[rocknblues81]

Can we trade Mike Budenhozler back to SA? Would you take him back?

[TheDoctor]

There was no one old enough or slow enough for us to go after

This is so funny because is the fucking true :lol

People say Spurs fans are spoiled but man, think of all the fat, old and lazy players, including the one currently active, that we have had to endure. Why people don't talk about that?

[DPG21920]

Lou is going nuts in his HOU debut. 22 points with 6 3's.

[spursistan]

Lou is going nuts in his HOU debut. 22 points with 6 3's.
Really annoying watching our competitors fortify while Spurs can't even remotely shore-up their glaring weakness-- one that's been lingering with lack of dynamic play-makers in the back-court post-2014....Haven't even come-up with bandaid solution there..

[YGWHI]

mcbuckets
has no problem scoring against the Spurs bench TBH and Gibson is no cookie.
... good move for OKC...

McDermott can give us problems if Pop lets Manu 20 minutes on him instead of playing more Simms/Kyle, also Gibson can work well with Westbrook in P&Rs.

It's never good news when your 1st round rival improves a bit.

[sasaint]

Some of us believe Pop HAS the solution. He just needs to force feed him as he once did Tony.

[ace3g]

Omri Casspi broken right thumb in debut, ouch...

[TheGreatYacht]

Lou is going nuts in his HOU debut. 22 points with 6 3's.
27pts off the bench tonight for Lou.

Some poster told me he wouldn't let go of Paddy for him :lol

[Ice009]

Cousins, Butler, L. Williams were the top 3 on my list for trade. The first two were long shots/no shots, but I wonder if Williams was attainable? He very well might have been. Fucking Spurs. 3 of the top 5 contenders upgraded, while Spurs did nothing.

[TheGreatYacht]

Cousins, Butler, L. Williams were the top 3 on my list for trade. The first two were long shots/no shots, but I wonder if Williams was attainable? He very well might have been. Fucking Spurs. 3 of the top 5 contenders upgraded, while Spurs did nothing.
:cry but Lou can't space the floor :cry

Rockets got him for Brewer (TRASH) and a late 1st rnd pick.
Spurs probably could've gotten him for Mills, Anderson, and a 2nd rnd pick

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Cousins, Butler, L. Williams were the top 3 on my list for trade. The first two were long shots/no shots, but I wonder if Williams was attainable? He very well might have been. Fucking Spurs. 3 of the top 5 contenders upgraded, while Spurs did nothing.

I would prefer to keep that 1st round pick. The new CBA makes picks/rookie contracts very valuable, especially for teams that draft and develop players well. Don't see Lou Williams being much of an upgrade over Mills and he's worse than Bonner when it comes to playoff shooting % drop.

Additionally, taking on his salary would mean the Spurs would significantly reduce their ability to keep Dedmon in the summer, should an offer over the MLE be needed.

[still.focused]

Pretty sure someone else in here saw it before but I read yesterday that Kawhi asked the Spurs not to make any major moves this trade deadline
If this MF gonna put this much faith in LMA he better get to producing ASAP
Hell prolly just get raped by Blake Griffin again tonight tho

[NameLess Scrub]

There was no one old enough or slow enough for us to go after

:lol

[UZER]

:cry but Lou can't space the floor :cry

Rockets got him for Brewer (TRASH) and a late 1st rnd pick.
Spurs probably could've gotten him for Mills, Anderson, and a 2nd rnd pick

Yeah but the system. :cry The system is so complicated and so detailed. You don't know how hard the system is to learn. :cry

It's wouldn't be fair to bring anyone in and play them over others who have been learning the system for two years already. :cry.

[Ice009]

I guess I'm on the Tyreke Evans wagon. Hopefully, he gets bought out and the Spurs get him.

Also, I'd rather Terrance Jones (has he been waived or bought out?) instead of Joel Anthony, but I doubt he's going to want to come here and possibly be buried on the bench.

I sure as fuck hope the Spurs didn't pass up on any trades thinking they're going to sign up players that have been bought out.

[TheGreatYacht]

Yeah but the system. :cry The system is so complicated and so detailed. You don't know how hard the system is to learn. :cry

It's wouldn't be fair to bring anyone in and play them over others who have been learning the system for two years already. :cry.
:lmao

:cry Danny Green and his 7ppg with less than 2 threes a game are irreplaceable :cry

[$pursDynasty]

funny with all the players moved Lou was the only one of them that I wanted. I starter is too big a piece to integrate this late into the season but just a scorer for the bench is easy enough. To 'get buckets' when no one can. It is a special skill. I think we could have integrated Lou seamlessly.

[UZER]

funny with all the players moved Lou was the only one of them that I wanted. I starter is too big a piece to integrate this late into the season but just a scorer for the bench is easy enough. To 'get buckets' when no one can. It is a special skill. I think we could have integrated Lou seamlessly.

You obviously don't know the intricacies of my system. Nobody, and I mean nobody, gets real playing time as a walk on late in the season.

:pop:

[palangi]

:lmao

:cry Danny Green and his 7ppg with less than 2 threes a game are irreplaceable :cry

According to Chinook that couldn't be more true. Danny Green is a god to the Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

According to Chinook that couldn't be more true. Danny Green is a god to the Spurs.

I'll add my name. You guys are morons.

[Chinook]

I'll add my name. You guys are morons.

Palangi has been powered by butt-hurt longer than I had thought possible. He might be the key to solving our energy crisis.

[TheGreatYacht]

I'll add my name. You guys are morons.
You're a retard.

[sasaint]

:lmao

:cry Danny Green and his 7ppg with less than 2 threes a game are irreplaceable :cry

Not irreplaceable, but the Spurs could only replace Danny with a player of equal or greater "gravity." They already have enough non-shooters in Kyle and Juice.

[TheDoctor]

Not irreplaceable, but the Spurs could only replace Danny with a player of equal or greater "gravity." They already have enough non-shooters in Kyle and Juice.
By that definition DLeague Green is expendable. We got already the player with the League's greatest gravity.

https://cdn1.lockerdome.com/uploads/17c4d1069a64f92c382ce6fc0488a87b461fd13934a40ee920 d40cb42682698c_large

[Chinook]

By that definition DLeague Green is expendable. We got already the player with the League's greatest gravity.

https://cdn1.lockerdome.com/uploads/17c4d1069a64f92c382ce6fc0488a87b461fd13934a40ee920 d40cb42682698c_large

Tony?


Your pick didn't show up.

[TheDoctor]

Tony?

Shit, you're right. The gravity is greatly affected by the mass. Hard toss.

[sasaint]

By that definition DLeague Green is expendable. We got already the player with the League's greatest gravity.

https://cdn1.lockerdome.com/uploads/17c4d1069a64f92c382ce6fc0488a87b461fd13934a40ee920 d40cb42682698c_large

You'd think my post was a set-up, but it really wasn't meant to be. I prolly shoulda expected somebody to play the fathead card... :lol I wish he were the source of the kind of gravity I intended!

[palangi]

Palangi has been powered by butt-hurt longer than I had thought possible. He might be the key to solving our energy crisis.

Speaking of butt hurry. How about the guy that puts others on ignore when they don't agree and bow to him.

[palangi]

I'll add my name. You guys are morons.

Says the guy worshiping a 7ppg scorer. I bet you overrate his defense too.

[ace3g]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) 10m (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/835295455303073801) New Orleans is waiving forward Omri Casspi, signing guard Reggie Williams, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/). Casspi out with broken thumb.

[ceperez]

Shams Charania ShamsCharania
(https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania) 10m (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/835295455303073801) New Orleans is waiving forward Omri Casspi, signing guard Reggie Williams, league sources tell @TheVertical (https://twitter.com/TheVertical/). Casspi out with broken thumb.




Well, too bad. Not very useful with a broken thumb.

[CGD]

Well, too bad. Not very useful with a broken thumb.

odd move for the Pels. He seems like one of those nice and cheap glue pieces they could use in the future.

[cd98]

odd move for the Pels. He seems like one of those nice and cheap glue pieces they could use in the future.
They are trying to make the playoffs and they need shooting now, so not surprising. Spurs have tried to get this guy in the past. Do they pick him up knowing he can't play for a month?

[CGD]

They are trying to make the playoffs and they need shooting now, so not surprising. Spurs have tried to get this guy in the past. Do they pick him up knowing he can't play for a month?

Yeah, but whose out there for NOLA? Also, was just reading elsewhere that they're capped out next year if the resign Holiday, so they just got rid of a decent peice that they could have resigned this summer with Bird Rights. Seems short sighted, but what do I know.

[SAGirl]

spursistan:
East race more interesting after beefed-up Raptors top stand-pat Celtics
http://www.espn.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4725346/east-race-more-interesting-after-beefed-up-raptors-top-stand-pat-celtics

Celtics already getting flak for standing pat. :lol

[spursistan]

spursistan:East race more interesting after beefed-up Raptors top stand-pat Celticshttp://www.espn.com/blog/boston/celtics/post/_/id/4725346/east-race-more-interesting-after-beefed-up-raptors-top-stand-pat-celticsCeltics already getting flak for standing pat. :lol836280006389153794Hey look! still standing pat in the buy out market :lol...I am secretly rooting for Boston to flame out in playoffs and bust all their draft picks so I can revel in the ensuing ridicule of Ainge ..He's acting like they're surely going to draft a Tim Duncan/Lebron, therefore Celtics is no rush and could be sitting on a potential dynasty here. Judging by the trend of last few years, the Top 3 prospects in lottery have been egregiously overhyped relative to their on court performance as it turned out..none of them has proven to be a transcendent talent, even guys likes KAT and AD haven't had that instant franchise-transforming impact..Draft night is Ainge's last stand..

[SAGirl]

836280006389153794Hey look! still standing pat in the buy out market :lol...I am secretly rooting for Boston to flame out in playoffs and bust all their draft picks so I can revel in the ensuing ridicule of Ainge ..He's acting like they're surely going to draft a Tim Duncan/Lebron, therefore Celtics is no rush and could be sitting on a potential dynasty here. Judging by the trend of last few years, the Top 3 prospects in lottery have been egregiously overhyped relative to their on court performance as it turned out..none of them has proven to be a transcendent talent, even guys likes KAT and AD haven't had that instant franchise-transforming impact..Draft night is Ainge's last stand..
Yea...he's making a mockery of himself, two seasons in a row already. Draftees that are not transcendent talent as you mention take time for them to even know what they have there and sometimes all you have are nice players but not stars. They also can't develop all of them properly bc they don't have enough roster spots.

Their window with the group they have is right now. I respect Ainge not wanting to throw away his picks initially and waiting for the right time... but by now it seems like there has been no star, no right time, etc. not even a right trade out there to improve their roster. He says he likes their team as they are... perhaps too attached to his roster right now.

[SAGirl]

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[Kawhitstorm]

Kings making Darren Collison, Mclemore, and Afflalo available

your boy Kawhitstorm (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=49655)

Darren Collison/PJ Tucker are better than Fatty Mills/Faggy Green (48 mill for TOSB Pau GaSoft)