So does Trumpcare pass the house?

[ducks]

It's funny seeing the GOP whine after 8 years of complete obstruction, including stealing Obama's last supreme court appointment.

That was done before

[baseline bum]

That was done before

No shit, it was the last eight years.

[ducks]

It was done before 8 years ago
Democrats did it

[baseline bum]

It was done before 8 years ago
Democrats did it

2009-2016 wasn't before 8 years ago son

[ducks]

"It's not just 2016. It's 2014 as well," Schumer said. "The blame goes all around, and the bottom line is people didn't know what we stood for."
When Tapper pointed to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll that found most people think the Democrats stood against Trump as opposed to "for something," Schumer reiterated his point and explained the new campaign is intended to demonstrate the party has a real economic agenda.
"I'm not going to point any specific fingers," Schumer said. "We're all to blame, but what you said, that 52% of Americans don't know what we stand for, that changes today."

[ducks]

supreme court appointment was done before in last year of president before 8 years ago
Mommy

[baseline bum]

supreme court appointment was done before in last year of president before 8 years ago
Mommy

English?

[Thread]

"It's not just 2016. It's 2014 as well," Schumer said. "The blame goes all around, and the bottom line is people didn't know what we stood for."
When Tapper pointed to a recent Washington Post/ABC News poll that found most people think the Democrats stood against Trump as opposed to "for something," Schumer reiterated his point and explained the new campaign is intended to demonstrate the party has a real economic agenda.
"I'm not going to point any specific fingers," Schumer said. "We're all to blame, but what you said, that 52% of Americans don't know what we stand for, that changes today."

I saw it. Tapper was beside himself and Schumer would not budge.

[Adam Lambert]

remember when we had a real president?

889177345399115779

[ducks]

remember when we had a real president?

889177345399115779

Because he is not white?

[Adam Lambert]

Because he is not white?

because he is not an idiot with a worse grasp of the english language than you.

[pgardn]

Because he is not white?

Because he realized the job has responsibility.
Its not for everyone.
And it's certainly not for Trump.

But...
Who ever thought Health Care would be so complicated?


Uhhhh.... Most of the country Donald.

[Pavlov]

Because he is not white?Because the law he passed was actually debated and discussed with the public.

Why do you think that is a bad thing?

[ducks]

The law is terrible
115%
Increase in az
Not working

[ducks]

because he is not an idiot with a worse grasp of the english language than you.

Yeah getting the tax payers to pay for his school
Lie to America where he is from
Fake birth cert
He is a con a very good one

[boutons_deux]

Obamacare took 10+ months to pass, tons of meetings, back and forth, had 100+ amendments (weakenings, carve outs), many to mollify Repugs.

Not a single Repug voted for ACA.

[pgardn]

The law is terrible
115%
Increase in az
Not working

So make it work.
Replace it, fix it.

Ya can't. Ya can't get it done.
Has the duck been downed?

[SnakeBoy]

remember when we had a real president?

889177345399115779

Trump has been lying about this replacement plan almost as well as Obama lied about his plan.

[Pavlov]

The law is terrible
115%
Increase in az
Not workingWhat Republican proposal will lower premiums and costs?


Yeah getting the tax payers to pay for his school
Lie to America where he is from
Fake birth cert
He is a con a very good onelol even Trump gave that one up.

[pgardn]

Trump has been lying about this replacement plan almost as well as Obama lied about his plan.

So why doesn't Trump just use "our tremendous " pre election plan?

[Th'Pusher]

Trump has been lying about this replacement plan almost as well as Obama lied about his plan.

:lol not even close.

[SnakeBoy]

So why doesn't Trump just use "our tremendous " pre election plan?

That would be Ryan's "A better Way" plan and that's what this is.

It's going to pass. Maybe not yet but after another round of premium increases they'll get it passed. Obamacare and Obama's legacy is done.

[SnakeBoy]

:lol not even close.

Yeah your right, Obama lied better.

[Th'Pusher]

Yeah your right, Obama lied better.

So far, Obama has done everything better.

Trump doesn't even talk about his replacement plan. :lol

[baseline bum]

So far, Obama has done everything better.

Trump doesn't even talk about his replacement plan. :lol

:lol His replacement plan is tax cuts for the rich.

[hater]

:lol His replacement plan is tax cuts for the rich.

And you think shillary was not going to work for the rich?? :lmao

Goodman Sachs leaked speeches :lol

[baseline bum]

And you think shillary was not going to work for the rich?? :lmao

Goodman Sachs leaked speeches :lol

It's always :cry but Clinton :cry every time Trump does something shady as fuck

[hater]

It's always :cry but Clinton :cry every time Trump does something shady as fuck

Yup

We dodged a major bullet. When someone dodges a bullet and then breaks a nail he should always say "well at least I dodged a bullet"

Because the bullet will kill you

[baseline bum]

Yup

We dodged a major bullet. When someone dodges a bullet and then breaks a nail he should always say "well at least I dodged a bullet"

Because the bullet will kill you

More like dodging a bullet only to fall into the blast from a shotgun

[boutons_deux]

No Dems and apparently no Repug senators have seen the bill, except maybe for the 3 Repug ladies who Bitch McC is trying convert to YES.

Blake Farenthold plans to duel the ladies if they don't vote YES. Shoot them dead, that's American problem solving.

The secret bill probably rotten with all kinds non-health-care amendments of tremendous value to the oligarchy screwing Americans.

If it fails, Price will start killing ACA with dozens of knife cuts, new counter-productive rules, and not enforcing current rules. He has already killed financing of states' projects, "navigators", to help people sign, kiling companies and jobs that were created to do just that.

The strategy is to fuck up ACA to prove that's if fucked up and failing.

Of course, if it passes the Senate, the modified bill has to go back to the House for passage, so the Freedom Kockus whores may kill it for not fucking up Americans enough.

[hater]

More like dodging a bullet only to fall into the blast from a shotgun

Disagree

U really think wed be in a better USA with Shillary ind white house and a republican house n senate???

Theyd be agreeing 100% in war in Syria and fightig about everything else

You really think wed be in a less toxic environment with that neocon in charge???

Think again

[Adam Lambert]

Trump has been lying about this replacement plan almost as well as Obama lied about his plan.

what plan?? lol

[boutons_deux]

False Equivalence LIE

what lies did Obama tell about ACA?

[Chucho]

False Equivalence LIE

what lies did Obama tell about ACA?

God damn you're stupid.

[Chucho]

what plan?? lol

God damn, you're stupid.

[baseline bum]

Disagree

U really think wed be in a better USA with Shillary ind white house and a republican house n senate???

Theyd be agreeing 100% in war in Syria and fightig about everything else

You really think wed be in a less toxic environment with that neocon in charge???

Think again

We'd be in a situation where Clinton would be neutered by congress and the one under FBI investigation.

[hater]

We'd be in a situation where Clinton would be neutered by congress and the one under FBI investigation.

Exactly.

Thanks for your honesty :tu

One caveat wed be knee deep in Syria, in a de facto proxy war with Russia and arming and funneling Al Nusra and Al Qaeda

[boutons_deux]

Hillary wouldnt have a Bannon and a cabinet whose priority is to destroy the Exec branch

yet again you rightwingnut assholes fail in your defense of Trash by saying hillary would be same, just as bad

[baseline bum]

nm, read that shit wrong

[baseline bum]

So Capito and Heller both pussed out on the vote today.

[ducks]

USA USA USA USA USA

the current health bill is not working
best to start over to many problems to fix
like I said get 12 people 6 republicans 6 liberals and get it done
lock them in a room without food just water and a toliet

[rmt]

Those spineless Collins and Alaskan senator - don't want to discuss the plan because they'll have to explain why they were for repeal and replace for so long and WON'T vote for it.

[Blake]

USA USA USA USA USA

the current health bill is not working
best to start over to many problems to fix
like I said get 12 people 6 republicans 6 liberals and get it done
lock them in a room without food just water and a toliet


I am suddenly reminded we need to start over on our education system

[hater]

:lmao MCain looks like a got dam undead out there

[Reck]

Those spineless Collins and Alaskan senator - don't want to discuss the plan because they'll have to explain why they were for repeal and replace for so long and WON'T vote for it.

Spineless? :lol

Spineless is voting for something you dont know anything about. Spineless is voting only because the orange monkey gets in front of a mic and basically threatens senators to vote or else.

:lol expecting people to vote for a 17% approval rating bill

[Thread]

USA USA USA USA USA

the current health bill is not working
best to start over to many problems to fix
like I said get 12 people 6 republicans 6 liberals and get it done
lock them in a room without food just water and a toliet

Exactly. Call it (ObamaTru) ---

[RandomGuy]

Mic captures GOP senator ripping Trump, mocking lawmaker


Collins was also snagged making unflattering remarks about Rep. Blake Farenthold, R-Texas, a day after he blamed "some female senators from the Northeast" for blocking health care legislation. He said he wished he could challenge them to a duel "Aaron Burr-style."

"Did you see the one who challenged me to a duel?" Collins asks.

"I know," Reed replies. "Trust me. Do you know why he challenged you to a duel? 'Cause you could beat the s--- out of him."

Collins continues, "I don't mean to be unkind but he's so unattractive it's unbelievable."

:lmao

Collins 1 Pajama boy 0


http://blakespajamas.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/2.jpg


Dude on the right.

[RandomGuy]

We'd be in a situation where Clinton would be neutered by congress and the one under FBI investigation.

Pretty much.

At least the flaming basket to hell this way is so surreal as to be entertaining.

[boutons_deux]

https://images.dailykos.com/images/425506/story_image/GettyImages-699966434.jpg?1500304815

[ducks]

like people never died before healthcare bill passed

[Pavlov]

like people never died before healthcare bill passedWhy do you want more people to die, ducks?

[ducks]

people get old and die that is life
I do not want want people to die
even the greatest dr can not save everyone
people do not eat correctly, smoke, drink to much
those causes health issues

[ducks]

what they do in Germany to fix knees works but the dr are not allowed to do that in the usa
that is wrong!

[ducks]

in mexico they replace stem cells
it works but again not allowed in the usa

[Pavlov]

people get old and die that is life
I do not want want people to die
even the greatest dr can not save everyone
people do not eat correctly, smoke, drink to much
those causes health issuesBut what if they do everything right?

Young healthy person gets cancer. Tough shit?

[ducks]

that is life
sorry might sound harsh but kids even get cancer

they go to the dr they can try to get cures they can go to mexico and try to get cured

[ducks]

life is not fair that is life
people make choices on what they do in life
people should pay for their choices and not get bailed out by government
sounds tough but that is life
why should everyone suffer for other peoples bad choices or their life issues

[ducks]

if I spend my money stupidly tell I retire and then cry I have no money should the taxpayer bail me out?

[Reck]

:lol cue the ducks meltdown. :lol

[ducks]

answer the question RECK

[Pavlov]

Why eat or breathe? Just die anyway.

[baseline bum]

But what if they do everything right?

Young healthy person gets cancer. Tough shit?

You don't find that a price worth paying so Trump can give himself a tax cut?

[hater]

Why eat or breathe? Just die anyway.

Why post? Just log out

[ducks]

You don't find that a price worth paying so Trump can give himself a tax cut?

Taxes
Has nothing to do with this

[ducks]

28 times the former president keep dr
Lie

[baseline bum]

Taxes
Has nothing to do with this

Bullshit. The GOP has said over and over they had to take peoples' healthcare away first to try to pay for their big tax cut for the rich.

[SnakeBoy]

Bullshit. The GOP has said over and over they had to take peoples' healthcare away first to try to pay for their big tax cut for the rich.

So does Trumpcare pass?

[ducks]

Bullshit. The GOP has said over and over they had to take peoples' healthcare away first to try to pay for their big tax cut for the rich.

They are saying if no tax on rich ok
Just everyone else and corp. taxes

[baseline bum]

So does Trumpcare pass?

I'd be pretty surprised if some form of it doesn't pass before the August recess. The only truly solid no vote is probably Collins since she is looking at running for governor in a state that hates Trump. Heller is a scared bitch so they might not even need to buy Murkowski off.

[baseline bum]

They are saying if no tax on rich ok
Just everyone else and corp. taxes

Why do you have to post in pidgin?

[Reck]

I'd be pretty surprised if some form of it doesn't pass before the August recess. The only truly solid no vote is probably Collins since she is looking at running for governor in a state that hates Trump. Heller is a scared bitch so they might not even need to buy Murkowski off.

I hope it does.

I'm at the point where I DGAF about the people who would die. If people need to die for you to get the message this is a piece of shit bill that doesn't even crack 20% approval rating than so be it.

It's also probably the only way democrats wins the house and senate. If they passed this shit, RIP republicans.

[baseline bum]

I hope it does.

I'm at the point where I DGAF about the people who would die. If people need to die for you to get the message this is a piece of shit bill that doesn't even crack 20% approval rating than so be it.

It's also probably the only way democrats wins the house and senate. If they passed this shit, RIP republicans.

That's the stupidest logic I have ever heard. The Democrats cannot win the senate in 2018 and beyond that the odds of them taking the presidency, the house, and 60+ seats in the senate all at once so they could pass a healthcare bill are slim and none. You scrap Obamacare and we're back in the glory days of medical bankruptcy for the foreseeable future.

[Reck]

That's the stupidest logic I have ever heard. The Democrats cannot win the senate in 2018 and beyond that the odds of them taking the presidency, the house, and 60+ seats in the senate all at once so they could pass a healthcare bill are slim and none. You scrap Obamacare and we're back in the glory days of medical bankruptcy for the foreseeable future.

So your logic is..republicans pass a shitty bill that kicks 23 millions off health care and republicans will still go unscathe? LOL

No, they will pay for passing this bill, if it ever passes.

[baseline bum]

So your logic is..republicans pass a shitty bill that kicks 23 millions off health care and republicans will still go unscathe? LOL

No, they will pay for passing this bill, if it ever passes.

I never said unscathed. They might pay a penalty and lose the house, big fucking deal. The Democrats would need more than a supermajority in the senate plus the house plus the presidency and possibly the supreme court to get any kind of decent health bill passed in the future. You're telling me you like those odds? There is a reason it took decades to get a national healthcare in the first place.

[ducks]

Why eat or breathe? Just die anyway.
I prefer to live

[SnakeBoy]

I never said unscathed. They might pay a penalty and lose the house, big fucking deal. The Democrats would need more than a supermajority in the senate plus the house plus the presidency and possibly the supreme court to get any kind of decent health bill passed in the future. You're telling me you like those odds? There is a reason it took decades to get a national healthcare in the first place.

Even in that scenario it is unlikely you get national healthcare with a strictly partisan vote. Dems can't get those kind of majorities without more conservative blue dog types. Obama managed to get them to fall on the sword for the ACA and they paid the price. Problem is they fell on the sword for a turd. That won't be forgotten.

Obama/Pelosi/Reid had a hell of an opportunity for the progressive cause and they screwed the pooch when they abandoned the public option without a whimper.

[baseline bum]

Even in that scenario it is unlikely you get national healthcare with a strictly partisan vote. Dems can't get those kind of majorities without more conservative blue dog types. Obama managed to get them to fall on the sword for the ACA and they paid the price. Problem is they fell on the sword for a turd. That won't be forgotten.

Obama/Pelosi/Reid had a hell of an opportunity for the progressive cause and they screwed the pooch when they abandoned the public option without a whimper.

Pelosi didn't abandon it, she got it passed. Obama abandoned it and Reid was pretty worthless. I was pissed the GOP ran a nut like Sharron Angle thus preserving Reid's seat. Fuck that guy.

[boutons_deux]

Reid was pretty worthless

Reid had BigInsurnace whore Lieberman as 60th vote, not 60 Dems

[boutons_deux]

Senate rejects proposal to repeal and replace Obamacare

"Senate Republicans voted Tuesday afternoon to advance to floor debate on their efforts to re-write health care policy,

the Senate decisively rejected a Republican proposal to repeal-and-replace Obamacare,

a sign of the chaos expected to envelop Capitol Hill as GOP leaders work to find a plan their conference can agree to."

This first vote dealt with a measure that combined a previous Senate proposal known as the Better Care Reconciliation Act -- that was rejected by several Republican senators --

with $100 billion in extra money for people on Medicaid desired by moderate Republicans and

a proposal from conservative Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, to allow bare-bones health insurance plans.

Democrats moved successfully to kill the amendment,

which was possible because it had not been officially scored by the Congressional Budget Office and therefore didn't meet the complicated reconciliation rules that the Senate is using to consider the bill.

Republicans needed 60 votes to keep the amendment alive. It died on a 43 to 57 vote.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/politics/senate-health-care-vote/index.html?sr=fbCNN072617senate-health-care-vote0302PMVODtop

[boutons_deux]

Shannon Watts (https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts)
(https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts)✔@shannonrwatts (https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts)

John McCain left hospital stay paid by taxes

on flight paid by taxes

to remove health insurance from taxpayers.

And we paid him to do it.

2:39 PM - 25 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/889933016792940544)
(https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts)

[boutons_deux]

Trump says the motion to proceed means Obamacare repeal is in “good shape.”

:lol :lol :lol :lol

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/25/16028262/trump-motion-to-proceed-obamacare-repeal

[baseline bum]

Senate rejects proposal to repeal and replace Obamacare

"Senate Republicans voted Tuesday afternoon to advance to floor debate on their efforts to re-write health care policy,

the Senate decisively rejected a Republican proposal to repeal-and-replace Obamacare,

a sign of the chaos expected to envelop Capitol Hill as GOP leaders work to find a plan their conference can agree to."

This first vote dealt with a measure that combined a previous Senate proposal known as the Better Care Reconciliation Act -- that was rejected by several Republican senators --

with $100 billion in extra money for people on Medicaid desired by moderate Republicans and

a proposal from conservative Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, to allow bare-bones health insurance plans.

Democrats moved successfully to kill the amendment,

which was possible because it had not been officially scored by the Congressional Budget Office and therefore didn't meet the complicated reconciliation rules that the Senate is using to consider the bill.

Republicans needed 60 votes to keep the amendment alive. It died on a 43 to 57 vote.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/25/politics/senate-health-care-vote/index.html?sr=fbCNN072617senate-health-care-vote0302PMVODtop





Wow you don't say? Republicans voted against a wildly unpopular bill that required 60 votes and thus had absolutely no chance of passing on party lines?

[baseline bum]

Shannon Watts (https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts)
(https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts)✔@shannonrwatts (https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts)

John McCain left hospital stay paid by taxes

on flight paid by taxes

to remove health insurance from taxpayers.

And we paid him to do it.

2:39 PM - 25 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts/status/889933016792940544)
(https://twitter.com/shannonrwatts)


http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/
NATE SILVER 10:26 PM
Some Surprising GOP Votes On BCRA

Some of the individual votes Tuesday night were surprising. Overall, nine Republicans opposed the amendment, which was a de facto vote on the BCRA.

The “no” votes — in rough order of least to most surprising — were Collins, Paul, Murkowski, Heller, Lee, Moran, Graham, Corker and Cotton.

But “yes” votes included McCain, who had implied in his speech on the Senate floor that he opposed the BCRA, and Capito, who had indicated opposition to an earlier version of it.

For Capito, my theory is that she thinks the BCRA would be bad for West Virginia because of its huge Medicaid cuts, but also knows that Trump is super popular in her state. So an outcome where the bill fails but she winds up supporting Trump’s position is pretty optimal for her. How she would have voted if she were the decisive vote might be harder to say.

By the same token, the fact that the BCRA wasn’t actually close to passage also enabled some potentially token-ish “no” votes. Corker said he voted no because of the lack of a Congressional Budget Office score, for instance — but Corker had voted for the motion to proceed earlier today when McConnell needed his vote despite the irregularity of the process.

As for McCain … I don’t know what to say. My beef is really with how the media covers McCain more than with McCain himself. As we wrote about McCain last week, he’s generally much more interested in foreign policy and national security than domestic policy. So when he actually takes “maverick-y” votes, it’s usually on those issues and not on others like health care.

Still, there’s a question here about how much the media ought to be weighing words or promises to vote a certain way versus actual floor votes. As we learned just now, those are very different things — including for McCain.

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 3:40 PM
McCain Punditry Mini-Rant

Part of why McCain does what he does: There’s a generational and philosophical divide in how he’s covered by the press.

Among younger and less traditional reporters on Twitter — especially on the left but by no means exclusively so — a lot of people are pointing out McCain’s inconsistency in scolding McConnell’s process but nevertheless voting for the motion to proceed.

On CNN, however, the commentary about McCain’s speech was glowing. And the commentary has also been very warm in Twitter comments we’ve seen from older reporters at the major news networks and at newspapers like The Washington Post.

Longtime readers of FiveThirtyEight know that I have a lot of beefs with the establishment media. Moments like these, where they elevate style over substance, are a big part of why.

[Thread]

NATE SILVER 3:40 PM
McCain Punditry Mini-Rant

Part of why McCain does what he does: There’s a generational and philosophical divide in how he’s covered by the press.

Among younger and less traditional reporters on Twitter — especially on the left but by no means exclusively so — a lot of people are pointing out McCain’s inconsistency in scolding McConnell’s process but nevertheless voting for the motion to proceed.

On CNN, however, the commentary about McCain’s speech was glowing. And the commentary has also been very warm in Twitter comments we’ve seen from older reporters at the major news networks and at newspapers like The Washington Post.

Longtime readers of FiveThirtyEight know that I have a lot of beefs with the establishment media. Moments like these, where they elevate style over substance, are a big part of why.

But, if he weren't terminally ill it would've never happened, bum. Someone...Schumer? Pence?, someone(s) who isn't Stage 4 needed to arrive next to McCain and echo his plea. But, (we) were too busy relishing the meal to come.

+ CNN/Media never touch(es)(ed) McCain's indictment of (their) behavior.

[AaronY]

That's the stupidest logic I have ever heard. The Democrats cannot win the senate in 2018 and beyond that the odds of them taking the presidency, the house, and 60+ seats in the senate all at once so they could pass a healthcare bill are slim and none. You scrap Obamacare and we're back in the glory days of medical bankruptcy for the foreseeable future.
I don't think we need 60+ seats anymore since the Gorsuch filibuster thing

[monosylab1k]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPGUIpv-JxI

[RandomGuy]

...

[boutons_deux]

How about this wondrous health care SCAM

The Company Behind Many Surprise Emergency Room Bills

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/07/24/upshot/the-company-behind-many-surprise-emergency-room-bills.html?mtrref=undefined

[baseline bum]

I don't think we need 60+ seats anymore since the Gorsuch filibuster thing

All that meant was judicial appointments only need 50+1 votes.

[baseline bum]

But, if he weren't terminally ill it would've never happened, bum. Someone...Schumer? Pence?, someone(s) who isn't Stage 4 needed to arrive next to McCain and echo his plea. But, (we) were too busy relishing the meal to come.

+ CNN/Media never touch(es)(ed) McCain's indictment of (their) behavior.

McCain is such a douchebag. He blasts Trump to the cameras and the media loves him for it but then he goes and votes in line with that fascist fuck.

:cry This is such a terrible process this senate is using to jam this bill through :cry
after voting to allow such process to jam the bill through

[boutons_deux]

McCain is such a douchebag. He blasts Trump to the cameras and the media loves him for it but then he goes and votes in line with that fascist fuck.

:cry This is such a terrible process this senate is using to jam this bill through :cry
after voting to allow such process to jam the bill through

Bitch McC isn't done yet with breaking the Senate.

KY, just another slave state helping the Confederacy fuckup the Yankee govt.

[boutons_deux]

McCain stood at the podium and said he would vote 'no' on the bill as it stands—guess how he voted (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/25/1683994/-McCain-stood-at-the-podium-and-said-he-would-vote-no-on-the-bill-as-it-stands-guess-how-he-voted)

"I voted for the motion to proceed to allow debate to continue and amendments to be offered. I will not vote for the bill as it is today. It's a shell of a bill right now. We all know that. I have changes urged by my state's governor that will have to be included to earn my support for final passage of any bill. I know many of you will have to see the bill changed substantially for you to support it.”

https://images.dailykos.com/images/428704/large/McCainVote.png?1501034946

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/25/1683994/-McCain-stood-at-the-podium-and-said-he-would-vote-no-on-the-bill-as-it-stands-guess-how-he-voted?detail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

March of Dimes Saved McConnell's Life. Now He Won't Even Meet With Them. (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/25/1675597/-March-of-Dimes-Saved-McConnell-s-Life-Now-He-Won-t-Even-Meet-With-Them)

when Mitch McConnell was a toddler, he contracted polio.

Thankfully for him, a small hospital in Warm Springs Georgia was able to treat him due to funding (https://tonic.vice.com/en_us/article/a3zbmz/mitch-mcconnell-polio-refused-march-of-dimes-meeting-over-senate-health-bill) from the National Foundation for Infantile Paralysis.

This charity helped little Mitch McConnell get the help he needed to make a full recovery.

You’d think at the very least, McConnell would agree to meet his saviors to discuss their concerns with his legislation to kill, disable, or hurt many of his fellow Americans.

Yet McConnell has steadfastly refused to meet with any charitable foundation (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-republicans-obamacare-secrecy-20170616-story.html?=)to discuss this bill, which includes the American Lung Association, the American Heart Association, and the American Diabetes Association.

Not even the March of Dimes was allowed a meeting with him (http://www.gq.com/story/mitch-mcconnell-march-of-dimes-health-care).

And you thought Paul Ryan was an ungrateful bastard (http://www.rawstory.com/2011/04/paul-ryan-already-benefitted-from-the-social-security-fund-he-now-wants-to-gut/).

Mitch McConnell grew up to be spiteful, petty, and entitled.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/7/25/1675597/-March-of-Dimes-Saved-McConnell-s-Life-Now-He-Won-t-Even-Meet-With-Them?detail=emaildkre

[boutons_deux]

David Frum
✔@davidfrum (https://twitter.com/davidfrum)

In the movies,

John McCain hauls himself from his sickbed,

delivers the big speech,

then votes No.

This ain’t the movies.

2:01 PM - 25 Jul 2017 (https://twitter.com/davidfrum/status/889923561489657856)

[boutons_deux]

Another Obamacare Repeal Bill Just Failed In The Senate

Senate Republicans again failed to approve legislation to repeal major parts of the Affordable Care Act on Wednesday.

This time, it was a bill that would have

eliminated funding for the Affordable Care Act’s private health insurance subsidies and

Medicaid expansion,
its individual mandate that most Americans obtain health coverage or face tax penalties,

its mandate that large companies offer health benefits to full-time employees, and

its taxes on rich people and health care companies.

This legislation didn’t include any means of replacing the Affordable Care Act.

The measure, known as as the Obamacare Repeal Reconciliation Act (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/health-care-cbo-score_us_596fcd2ee4b0aa14ea76e487), failed 45-55,

with seven Republican senators voting against it, along with all Democrats and independents in the upper chamber. GOP Sens. Lamar Alexander (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/lamar-alexander) (Tenn.), Susan Collins (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/susan-collins) (Maine), Dean Heller (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/dean-heller) (Nev.), John McCain (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/john-mccain) (Ariz.), Shelley Moore Capito (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/shelley-moore-capito) (W. Va.), Lisa Murkowski (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/lisa-murkowski) (Alaska) and Rob Portman (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/rob-portman) (Ohio) opposed the legislation.

, the most likely scenario, for now, is that McConnell presents the Senate with

a new, so-called “skinny” bill (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-republicans-health-care-skinny-bill_us_59777020e4b0e201d57895eb) ― written on the fly (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-republicans-dont-know-what-health-care-bill-theyre-about-to-vote-for-thats-nuts_us_59761b30e4b0e79ec19ae12b) ― that would merely repeal

the Affordable Care Act’s individual and

employer mandates,

along with its tax on medical device sales.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/another-obamacare-repeal-bill-failed-senate_us_5978ac7ae4b0a8a40e846f99?utm_medium=emai l&utm_campaign=__BREAKING__%202017-07-26%20Another%20Obamacare%20Repeal%20Bill%20Just%20 Failed%20In%20The%20Senate&utm_content=__BREAKING__%202017-07-26%20Another%20Obamacare%20Repeal%20Bill%20Just%20 Failed%20In%20The%20Senate+CID_ccf8ab2c61a578882e8 8ca15ebd94288&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=Read%20More&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__BREAKING__%202017-07-26%20Another%20Obamacare%20Repeal%20Bill%20Just%20 Failed%20In%20The%20Senate

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Bipartisan Group Of Governors Warns Senate Not To Pass ‘Skinny’ Obamacare Repeal Bill

One key Republican senator may be paying close attention.

A bipartisan group of 10 governors wrote a letter (https://twitter.com/mattwhouse/status/890362111301492737) Wednesday urging the Senate to reject a proposed “skinny” health care bill that Republican leaders are now trying feverishly to pass.

And if the collective voice of so many governors doesn’t get the attention of GOP leaders, the letter’s endorsement by one particular Republican governor might.

It’s Brian Sandoval, from Nevada.

He has emerged as a key player in the health care debate because GOP leaders in Washington desperately need the vote of Nevada’s Republican senator, Dean Heller (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/7/14/15970994/senate-health-care-bill-brian-sandoval-dean-heller).

Heller’s opposition alone could very well sink legislation, given that two out of the Senate’s 52 Republicans have already said they would oppose any Obamacare repeal option now under official discussion. And Heller has said he will listen closely to what Sandoval advises.

“If you want my support … you better make sure that the Republican governors that have expanded Medicaid sign off on it,” Heller said

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/governors-letter-skinny-repeal-bill-obamacare_us_59791482e4b02a4ebb72a510?wxk&ncid=inblnkushpmg00000009&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__062717&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__062717+CID_18647979 c89e6b48fcbb4687df4cbe41&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=warned%20against&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__062717

[boutons_deux]

Donald Trump Is Reportedly Seeking Revenge On Alaska Over Health Care Vote

Sen. Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) voted no on GOP efforts to dismantle the Affordable Care Act this week.

President Donald Trump (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/donald-trump) made clear his dissatisfaction with Sen. Lisa Murkowski (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/lisa-murkowski) (R-Alaska) Wednesday, when he tweeted (http://www.cnn.com/2017/07/26/politics/twitter-trump-murkowski-health-care/index.html) that she let down her party and the nation by voting against Republicans’ attempts (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-republicans-bcra-vote_us_5977f7dfe4b0a8a40e83a2d4) to repeal Obamacare (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/affordable-care-act).

But apparently Trump’s public disapproval is not the only way the administration plans to make his anger known.

The Alaska Dispatch News (https://www.adn.com/politics/2017/07/26/trump-administration-signals-that-murkowskis-health-care-vote-could-have-energy-repercussions-for-alaska/) reported Wednesday night that Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/topic/ryan-zinke)called Murkowski and fellow Alaskan Sen. Dan Sullivan (R) after Tuesday’s health care vote to let them know her position (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/mccain-murkowski-health-care_us_5977d185e4b0a8a40e83916a) had put some of their state-specific projects in jeopardy ― particularly those pertaining to energy.

Sullivan told the outlet that Zinke’s phone call carried a “troubling message,” and

the interior secretary made it clear to him that the call was in response to Murkowski voting no on the motion to proceed on Tuesday.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-reportedly-seeking-revenge-on-alaska-over-health-care-vote_us_59798ffee4b02a8434b3e23b?ncid=inblnkushpmg 00000009&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=__TheMorningEmail__062717&utm_content=__TheMorningEmail__062717+CID_18647979 c89e6b48fcbb4687df4cbe41&utm_source=Email%20marketing%20software&utm_term=HuffPost&ncid=newsltushpmgnews__TheMorningEmail__062717

[boutons_deux]

https://twitter.com/ErickFernandez/status/890243512607924224

[baseline bum]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 12:32 PM
The Senate reportedly hasn’t written the draft legislation for the “skinny bill” we’ve been talking about for the last couple of days, but information is starting to trickle out on what it might include. The bill is widely expected to include a repeal of the individual mandate. According to Axios, it will also defund Planned Parent for a year and expand waivers that states can apply for in order to get around the regulations on the insurance market imposed by Obamacare, though it’s not clear what those waivers would allow.

There are at least two problems in there for the GOP: One, the Senate parliamentarian has said defunding Planned Parenthood doesn’t comply with Senate rules, meaning it would need 60 votes to pass. And two, the parliamentarian has also ruled that the waivers don’t comply with the rules.

[RandomGuy]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 12:32 PM
The Senate reportedly hasn’t written the draft legislation for the “skinny bill” we’ve been talking about for the last couple of days, but information is starting to trickle out on what it might include. The bill is widely expected to include a repeal of the individual mandate. According to Axios, it will also defund Planned Parent for a year and expand waivers that states can apply for in order to get around the regulations on the insurance market imposed by Obamacare, though it’s not clear what those waivers would allow.

There are at least two problems in there for the GOP: One, the Senate parliamentarian has said defunding Planned Parenthood doesn’t comply with Senate rules, meaning it would need 60 votes to pass. And two, the parliamentarian has also ruled that the waivers don’t comply with the rules.

Republicans are getting ready to toss the rule of law out the fucking window. I'm not sure parliamentary procedure is going to stop them.

[hater]

Im sure they will pass something. Even if its just passing gas

Trump will sign it and check off another item off his list of promises

Another victory for Trump

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 12:55 PM
‘Skinny Repeal’ Would Still Create Big Political Headaches For The GOP (But Probably Not As Many As BCRA)

My colleagues have already shared their thoughts on whether “skinny repeal” would be popular. So let me pass my impressions along also, with the goal of stepping back and casting a slightly wider lens.

At various times since Republicans first proposed a health care bill in March, I’ve wondered about the political wisdom of taking such a sweeping approach. The House’s American Health Care Act and the Senate’s Better Care Reconciliation Act would both have made massive cuts to Medicaid and used those cuts, it part, to finance tax cuts that would mostly have helped well-off Americans. And tens of millions of people would have lost insurance coverage. It’s hard to write a popular health care bill; Americans are inherently nervous about changes to the health care system. But AHCA and BCRA almost seemed designed to be as unpopular as possible.

As compared to AHCA or BCRA, “skinny repeal” would be narrower and much more targeted — and its primary goal would be repealing the individual mandate, which is pretty unpopular. Republicans probably would have a lot of problems next year when premiums increased as a result of the individual mandate being repealed. But in comparison to AHCA or BCRA — which would also have disrupted the insurance marketplaces — they’d be somewhat more palatable, politically.

Here’s the thing, though. Republicans wouldn’t be passing “skinny repeal” in a vacuum. Instead, they’d be passing it after a months-long debate in which many of their members had already voted for the super-unpopular AHCA or BCRA at some point along the way. Meanwhile, the Republican base’s expectations have been raised by the AHCA and BCRA and by years of promises to repeal Obamacare. While some conservatives will give them credit for “repealing Obamacare” by removing the individual mandate, others will feel disappointed — or even betrayed that they left so much of Obamacare intact.

So Republicans would wind up with:
1. A lot of Republicans on record as having voted for AHCA or BCRA;
2. A substantial likelihood of premium increases that will kick in before the 2018 midterms, and a resulting increase in the uninsured population.
3. A bill that the GOP base isn’t all that thrilled about;
4. A public which is broadly confused by the months-long process — with the result of the confusion being that the public tends to read all of the above in an unfavorable light for Republicans.

In exchange, they get:
1. Trump and congressional leaders claiming some kind of “win” for having “repealed Obamacare.”
2. Removal of a provision, the individual mandate, that was rather unpopular.

That isn’t a good trade for Republicans. It’s a pretty bad one, in fact, and one which will contribute to the likelihood of Republicans losing seats in Congress next year.

It’s still probably better than enacting AHCA or BCRA into law, however, just because those bills are so unpopular and would be even more disruptive to insurance coverage.

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Im sure they will pass something. Even if its just passing gas

Trump will sign it and check off another item off his list of promises

Another victory for Trump

No way, hater. Zero crafted his vehicle magnificently. It is fool proof. What's so graveling is that he knew, (Zero knew)---he took nothing ie.('16 Election) for granted. "Eh, I won't go thru this with a fine tooth comb. I'll just write it, they'll pass it, I'll sign it, Hillary will be President the next 8 years and I'll cross that bridge in 15 years, need be."

Uh, uh. He sat down with his people and took every angle and eventuality to heart. Mapped it all out. All contingencies were covered. It is a testament to genius. Obama is (The Killer). Hillary never was. And he tried with all his might & cunning to drive her to be like him, to seize the moment and she would not, or, could not do it. The mere fact that he planned for such a failure of the human spirit (her's) is stunning. And now he can sit there, denied another 8 years in the WH, yes, but, they can't touch his ObamaCare. His legacy will go down in the scrolls.

& I heartily believe Trump knows this, has come to realize. HIS people have sat down, poured over it and found it 100% bullet proof. He's playing the string out, but, he knows he can't win here.

Zero

[clambake]

zero will own donna always and forever.

[baseline bum]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 1:59 PM
Legislative Swiss Cheese

One thing worth bearing in mind throughout the next crazy hours of Senate debate: Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell chose to approach the GOP effort to repeal and replace parts of the ACA using the reconciliation process. The benefit of this process for the GOP is that it needs only 50 votes to pass, so it doesn’t have to work with Democrats to craft or pass the bill. The down side is there are limitations on what can be included in the bill, because each provisions must be primarily about making changes to the budget. It also puts a deadline on passing the bill for complicated reasons.

The Senate Parliamentarian, who determines whether the bill follows those rules, has issued guidance that many of the GOP ideas included in the various iterations of Senate legislation proposed so far don’t comply. That includes provisions that would:

1. Restrict funding for Planned Parenthood,
2. Allow insurers to charge older adults five times as much as younger adults,
3. Institute a six month waiting period to buy insurance if you haven’t had continuous coverage (which is supposed to function as a replacement to the individual mandate),
4. Make available waivers to allow states to forgo insurance market regulations.

Getting rid of these provisions makes Swiss cheese out of the bills Republicans have put forward so far. It’s unclear what that will mean for their final bill proposal. At the moment, two of the options seem to be to leave those provisions out (as would be the case with a true “skinny repeal” bill that just ended the individual mandate, the employer mandate and perhaps a few other things) and hope they can get enough votes without them, or they could choose to overrule the Parliamentarian, ending the Senate as we know it.

[Thread]

zero will own donna always and forever.

He would've had he been able to win that 3rd/4th term(s). You can lead a horse/Hillary to water, but, you can't make her drink.

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 2:14 PM
’Skinny Repeal’ Isn’t Having A Great Day

It’s been hard to make reliable predictions about exactly how the health care debate will play out. The general rule has been that Republicans are never as close to passing a bill as they seem to be at their best moments, nor never as far from it as they seem to be at their worst ones.

But whereas “skinny repeal” seemed to have a lot of momentum initially — with Heller indicating he would back it, for example — the news so far today has been more troubling for its prospects. Here’s a sampling:

1. House Freedom Caucus chair Mark Meadows said there’s “not enough appetite” to pass “skinny repeal” in the House as currently constructed.
2. South Dakota Sen. Mike Rounds said he wanted a guarantee that “skinny repeal” wouldn’t pass the House, or that its implementation would be delayed.
3. Arizona Sen. John McCain said he’s still undecided on “skinny repeal.”
4. And various provisions that were supposed to be in the “skinny repeal” bill keep getting nixed by the Senate parliamentarian, meaning they’d require 60 votes (or for the GOP to eliminate the legislative filibuster) to pass.

So … who knows. Fundamentally, however, McConnell is playing a game of three-card Monte with his caucus. Some members (like Heller) are willing to vote for “skinny repeal” only in order to avoid having to vote for something like AHCA or BCRA, while others (like Rounds) want to vote for “skinny repeal” only because they hope it turns into something like AHCA or BCRA after conference with the House. It might be a neat trick if McConnell pulls it off, but it was never going to be easy.

[boutons_deux]

May 4 Repugs took the bus to WH to celebrate passing their bullshit, murderous bill

http://media.salon.com/2017/05/trump-rose-garden.jpg

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[boutons_deux]

Republican Senator Murkowski Just Declared War On Trump For Threatening Her Constituents

The Hill reports that (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/344142-murkowskis-committee-postpones-trump-nominees-confirmation-vote)Chairwoman Murkowski has ordered the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to publicly postponed a vote on confirming six Trump Interior Department nominees in a signal that she will not take his threats lying down.

The nominees would have been:



Brenda Burman, commissioner of reclamation at Interior
Susan Combs to be assistant secretary of the Interior for policy, managment, and budget
Doug Domenech, assistant secretary of the Interior for insular affairs
Paul Dabbar to be undersecretary for science of the Department of Energy
David Jonas to be general counsel of the Department of Energy
Mark Wesley Menezes to be undersecretary of the Department of Energy


So far, Zinke and Energy Secretary Rick Perry are the only Senate-confirmed officials at their agencies, some six months after Trump took office.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/27/republican-senator-murkowski-just-declared-war-trump-threatening-constituents/

[boutons_deux]

Parliamentarian issues warning on another GOP healthcare proposal

The Senate parliamentarian advised senators Thursday that another GOP healthcare proposal will need 60 votes for passage because it violates Senate rules.

The GOP's repeal and replace plan, which failed on the floor Tuesday, contained a provision that would allow states to waive some ObamaCare requirements, including one that says insurers must cover 10 certain benefits in all of their plans.

But the parliamentarian advised that the language would violate the rules of reconciliation, the fast track budget maneuver Republicans are using that only needs 51 votes and is immune to Democratic filibuster.

Because the state waivers language violates these rules, it would need 60 votes, which is impossible without Democratic support. The parliamentarian has already said (http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/343234-parliamentarian-deals-setback-to-gop-healthcare-bill) that a number of other provisions could be stripped out.

http://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/344139-parliamentarian-issues-warning-on-another-gop-healthcare-proposal

Wasn't Bitch McC supposed to be a master tactician in (ab)using Senate rules?

[baseline bum]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

HARRY ENTEN 3:47 PM

Some GOP senators have said they will vote for “skinny repeal” with the understanding that it would not become law. Instead, these senators are supposedly voting for a process that would allow the House and Senate to conference and determine then what the health care bill will look like. That, however, may be a major miscalculation by these GOP senators. According to new reports, the House could stick around this weekend to potentially vote on “skinny repeal.” In other words, the Senate’s “skinny repeal” bill could end up becoming law — and that law could lead to many more uninsured Americans.

[baseline bum]

890659871472795648

[RandomGuy]

Senate Rejects GOP Proposal to Repeal Obamacare

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-rejects-gop-proposal-repeal-202737369.html

https://i.imgflip.com/ff9ir.jpg

[Adam Lambert]

890659871472795648

drain this swamp

[baseline bum]

Senate Rejects GOP Proposal to Repeal Obamacare

https://www.yahoo.com/news/senate-rejects-gop-proposal-repeal-202737369.html

https://i.imgflip.com/ff9ir.jpg

The skinny repeal is going to happen since Heller has said he'll go along with it.

[baseline bum]

Well, unless McConnell leaves the stuff in the skinny repeal that would require 60 votes just as a way to wash his hands of the repeal. But I'm betting it'll just be the skinny repeal minus the stuff that can't appear in a reconciliation bill.

[Reck]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

HARRY ENTEN 3:47 PM

Some GOP senators have said they will vote for “skinny repeal” with the understanding that it would not become law. Instead, these senators are supposedly voting for a process that would allow the House and Senate to conference and determine then what the health care bill will look like. That, however, may be a major miscalculation by these GOP senators. According to new reports, the House could stick around this weekend to potentially vote on “skinny repeal.” In other words, the Senate’s “skinny repeal” bill could end up becoming law — and that law could lead to many more uninsured Americans.

Totally sounds like a bait and switch.

House niggas letting them think they will convene somehow but will pass the shitty "skinny repeal" bill into law.

[Reck]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

HARRY ENTEN 3:47 PM

Some GOP senators have said they will vote for “skinny repeal” with the understanding that it would not become law. Instead, these senators are supposedly voting for a process that would allow the House and Senate to conference and determine then what the health care bill will look like. That, however, may be a major miscalculation by these GOP senators. According to new reports, the House could stick around this weekend to potentially vote on “skinny repeal.” In other words, the Senate’s “skinny repeal” bill could end up becoming law — and that law could lead to many more uninsured Americans.

890666900350304258

A move so obvious Tim fucking Kaine knows it. :lol

[baseline bum]

890675636125155328

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 5:02 PM

McConnell And Ryan Have Baited-and-Switched Their Members Before

I’m not sure what this 5:15 p.m. press conference is about, but if Republicans are growing nervous about the strategy to pass a “skinny repeal” bill in the hopes that problems with the bill can be fixed in conference, they may finally be wising up.

It was only a couple of months ago that the House passed AHCA, with Republican leaders telling moderates to vote yes on the bill partly on the premise that the problems with AHCA would be fixed by the Senate. Instead, the Senate’s version of the bill, BCRA, was extremely similar to the House’s, including in its major rollback of Medicaid.

[baseline bum]

Orrin Hatch said he's seen the bill and he doesn't see anything passing.

[ducks]

Republican Senator Murkowski Just Declared War On Trump For Threatening Her Constituents

The Hill reports that (http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/344142-murkowskis-committee-postpones-trump-nominees-confirmation-vote)Chairwoman Murkowski has ordered the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee to publicly postponed a vote on confirming six Trump Interior Department nominees in a signal that she will not take his threats lying down.

The nominees would have been:



Brenda Burman, commissioner of reclamation at Interior
Susan Combs to be assistant secretary of the Interior for policy, managment, and budget
Doug Domenech, assistant secretary of the Interior for insular affairs
Paul Dabbar to be undersecretary for science of the Department of Energy
David Jonas to be general counsel of the Department of Energy
Mark Wesley Menezes to be undersecretary of the Department of Energy


So far, Zinke and Energy Secretary Rick Perry are the only Senate-confirmed officials at their agencies, some six months after Trump took office.

http://washingtonjournal.com/2017/07/27/republican-senator-murkowski-just-declared-war-trump-threatening-constituents/

yep fuck the country teach trump a lesson
fuck the election process that put trump in office
they only care about teaching trump a lesson

[Reck]

LOL walking corpse McCain gives a speech of a no voter but will till vote for this piece of shit.

[baseline bum]

Lindsay Graham wants an assurance from Ryan the skinny repeal isn't a bait & switch.

[ducks]

Lindsay Graham wants an assurance from Ryan the skinny repeal isn't a bait & switch.

fuck graham he is a fucking losser
no one cares what he thinks them American people said FUCK YOU GRAHAM

Why he fucking just change his registration to a liberal I would never know
LOSSER

[baseline bum]

McCain saying he wants a bipartisan bill to look good to the press, but of course he doesn't.

[ducks]

Lindsay Graham wants an assurance from Ryan the skinny repeal isn't a bait & switch.

does he want them to fuck him to

[Reck]

Lindsay Graham wants an assurance from Ryan the skinny repeal isn't a bait & switch.

Ryan will just say sure, buddy. Sure.

There is no way to guarantee they wont pass it over there. A politician's word is worthless.

[RandomGuy]

890675636125155328

:corn:

http://www.animateit.net/data/media/june2010/418d260a2bc3.gif

http://kit-johnson.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/12/schadenfreude_pic2.jpg

[ducks]

McCain saying he wants a bipartisan bill to look good to the press, but of course he doesn't.

yeah the press is what matters stupid idiot
get off the meds mccain

[ducks]

CNN's sources were wrong here -McCain, Johnson & Graham are coming out against skinny repeal until they get more assurances from the House

cnn sources wrong NEVER LOL CNN SOURCES!

[ducks]

Ryan will just say sure, buddy. Sure.

There is no way to guarantee they wont pass it over there. A politician's word is worthless.
especially the democrats
they sure helped those blacks like the promised when they put the former president in office

[baseline bum]

Ryan will just say sure, buddy. Sure.

There is no way to guarantee they wont pass it over there. A politician's word is worthless.

McCain is such a piece of shit.

:cry I want a bipartisan bill so we're not like the Democrats in 2009 :cry

But I'll vote for this piece of shit if it goes to committee with the house

[rmt]

fuck graham he is a fucking losser
no one cares what he thinks them American people said FUCK YOU GRAHAM

Why he fucking just change his registration to a liberal I would never know
LOSSER

I'll ditto the sentiment. And McCain actually thinks Dems will help pass anything - talk about idiotic. And it's his state with the biggest premium increases.

[Reck]

CNN's sources were wrong here -McCain, Johnson & Graham are coming out against skinny repeal until they get more assurances from the House

cnn sources wrong NEVER LOL CNN SOURCES!

They will vote for it if good old Ryan sells them a simple lie.

[ducks]

Dana Bash on CNN saying that McCain, Johnson, Graham will announce at press conference that they're voting FOR "skinny repeal."

[Pavlov]

fuck graham he is a fucking losser
no one cares what he thinks them American people said FUCK YOU GRAHAM

Why he fucking just change his registration to a liberal I would never know
LOSSER

yeah the press is what matters stupid idiot
get off the meds mccainGood lord ducks hates USA veterans.

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 5:28 PM

What sort of substantive assurances could Ryan give to these guys that the bill will go to conference? Just his word?

[RandomGuy]

CNN's sources were wrong here -McCain, Johnson & Graham are coming out against skinny repeal until they get more assurances from the House

cnn sources wrong NEVER LOL CNN SOURCES!


The Trump people didn’t seem to grasp, according to a former D.O.E. employee, how much more than just energy the Department of Energy was about. They weren’t totally oblivious to the nuclear arsenal, but even the nuclear arsenal didn’t provoke in them much curiosity. “They were just looking for dirt, basically,” said one of the people who briefed the Beachhead Team on national-security issues. “ ‘What is the Obama administration not letting you do to keep the country safe?’ ” The briefers were at pains to explain an especially sensitive aspect of national security: the United States no longer tests its nuclear weapons. Instead, it relies on physicists at three of the national labs—Los Alamos, Livermore, and Sandia—to simulate explosions, using old and decaying nuclear materials.
This is not a trivial exercise, and to do it we rely entirely on scientists who go to work at the national labs because the national labs are exciting places to work. They then wind up getting interested in the weapons program. That is, because maintaining the nuclear arsenal was just a by-product of the world’s biggest science project, which also did things like investigating the origins of the universe. “Our weapons scientists didn’t start out as weapons scientists,” says Madelyn Creedon, who was second-in-command of the nuclear-weapons wing of the D.O.E., and who briefed the incoming administration, briefly. “They didn’t understand that. The one question they asked was ‘Wouldn’t you want the guy who grew up wanting to be a weapons scientist?’

[baseline bum]

PERRY BACON JR. 5:30 PM

Let’s note the insanity of McCain, perhaps the most well-known member of “the world’s greatest deliberative body,” holding a presser to say, “I want to vote for a bill that I think is terrible. Please Paul Ryan, let me do it.” He gave that speech about the Senate and its greatness, less than 72 hours ago.

[ducks]

Good lord ducks hates USA veterans.

usa veterans does not make anyone qualified to be in congress

[RandomGuy]

NATE SILVER 5:28 PM

What sort of substantive assurances could Ryan give to these guys that the bill will go to conference? Just his word?

https://strandedalien.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/prick-award-ryan.jpg

[baseline bum]

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 5:32 PM

Graham has spent a lot of time this week talking about how Obamacare dollars aren’t even among states. This is not surprising since 19 states have chosen not to expand Medicaid.

[RandomGuy]

usa veterans does not make anyone qualified to be in congress

But being a draft dodging sack of shit who lied to get out of the draft and used his rich family connections is all it takes to be president, so he could tell other people they can't volunteer for the military.

Got it.

[Reck]

NATE SILVER 5:28 PM

What sort of substantive assurances could Ryan give to these guys that the bill will go to conference? Just his word?

These politicians are fucking retarded.

:cry But we're colleagues. HE WOULD NEVER LIE! :cry

Have some fucking guts and think for yourself and stop the hand holding.

[ducks]

Lindsay Graham wants an assurance from Ryan the skinny repeal isn't a bait & switch.

he also wants to be president but the country said HELL NO HELL NO

but he will run to the media and bash what the country voted for TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP

[RandomGuy]

usa veterans does not make anyone qualified to be in congress

.. and as a veteran:

(must. be. nice.)

[ducks]

These politicians are fucking retarded.

:cry But we're colleagues. HE WOULD NEVER LIE! :cry

Have some fucking guys and think for yourself and stop the hand holding.

they do not think for themselves they have to call their lobbist
that is the problem
they could care less about the people who voted for them in office

[ducks]

.. and as a veteran:

Fuck you.

as a person who pays you FUCK YOU
a vertern does not make you qualified for office
McCain is very unfit for office

[ducks]

.. and as a veteran:

(must. be. nice.)
you may be more qualified then McCain and linsay

[Reck]

they do not think for themselves they have to call their lobbist
that is the problem
they could care less about the people who voted for them in office

Something I can agree with you for once.

[ducks]

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 5:32 PM

Graham has spent a lot of time this week talking about how Obamacare dollars aren’t even among states. This is not surprising since 19 states have chosen not to expand Medicaid.

quit talking to the press and get a bill passed LOSER

[ducks]

These politicians are fucking retarded.

:cry But we're colleagues. HE WOULD NEVER LIE! :cry

Have some fucking guts and think for yourself and stop the hand holding.

just like the former president 28 times you can keep your dr

[RandomGuy]

as a person who pays you FUCK YOU
a vertern does not make you qualified for office
McCain is very unfit for office

Sorry. FWIW.

McCain is vastly more fit than the current draft dodging sack of shit in the oval office.

https://media.giphy.com/media/UsYpKp9s2gTy8/giphy.gif

[RandomGuy]

as a person who pays you FUCK YOU
a vertern does not make you qualified for office
McCain is very unfit for office

Note:

Veteran = out of the military. You don't pay me. My guess is you are a Medicare beneficiary of some sort, so more likely my taxes are paying you. You're welcome.

You are, however guaranteeing my mortgage. Thanks.

[baseline bum]

just like the former president 28 times you can keep your dr

How many lies has Trump told on healthcare?

[Pavlov]

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 5:32 PM

Graham has spent a lot of time this week talking about how Obamacare dollars aren’t even among states. This is not surprising since 19 states have chosen not to expand Medicaid.:lol "We aren't getting the money we never asked for!"

[ducks]

How many lies has Trump told on healthcare?

nothing yet he is still trying to get a new health bill

[baseline bum]

nothing yet he is still trying to get a new health bill

:lol you're such a fucking retard

[Pavlov]

nothing yet he is still trying to get a new health billThe $12/year bill!

[Adam Lambert]

lmao ducks meltdown

[ducks]

lol at linsay thinking he is popular
everyone hates his ass in s.c

[baseline bum]

This is hilarious that the senate would cede so much power to Ryan, since Ryan could just say fuck you, I'll pass the bill you already passed if he can't come to an agreement in conference with the senate. Oh well, 99% chance this is passing tonight since Heller has said he'd vote for it, Portman has too, and Graham, McCain, and the other two shitheads basically said they would too in their cute pass the buck press conference.

[ducks]

Nate Silver‏Verified account NateSilver538



Would be pretty ������ if Trump decided now was the perfect time to fire Sessions.

[Pavlov]

lol at linsay thinking he is popular
everyone hates his ass in s.cHigher approval ratings for him there than Trump in the US.

[ducks]

nate now is just trolling

[ducks]

Poll: Lindsey Graham SC's 'least popular politician'

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2016/08/11/poll-lindsey-graham-scs-least-popular-politician/88570574/

[ducks]

Lindsey Graham is South Carolina's least popular politician, with only 30% of voters approving of him
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=7&ved=0ahUKEwik_eftwKrVAhVBy1QKHerDBagQFghFMAY&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.publicpolicypolling.com%2Fmai n%2Flindsey-graham%2F&usg=AFQjCNF5ERe4gUa9EqZGC4T9Qk5uTELGdQ

[Adam Lambert]

as a liberal it really hurts me to see you shitting on lindsey graham.

fuck him. let them all bring each other down. burn, gop. good fucking riddance.

[Pavlov]

Poll: Lindsey Graham SC's 'least popular politician'

http://www.greenvilleonline.com/story/news/2016/08/11/poll-lindsey-graham-scs-least-popular-politician/88570574/:lol August 11, 2016

[Warlord23]

So Graham and McCain say they'll vote for this skinny repeal bill only if Ryan promises that it won't become law? :lol

The GOP has become a laughing stock. First Ryan punted healthcare to the Senate by passing a bill in the House that he knew the Senate couldn't support. Now McConnell is trying to pass this skinny repeal nonsense and punt it right back to Ryan. A party that has done nothing other than gin up anger by misinforming people now finds it difficult to do any sort of governing.

The moron in the White House isn't helping. He's just waiting for a bill to sign so he can declare a victory and go golfing.

[ducks]

http://www.wyff4.com/article/3-carolina-senators-including-lindsey-graham-among-least-popular-poll-finds/9262740

Of the 100 members of the Senate, only one has a higher disapproval than approval rating, according to the poll: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Updated: 5:06 PM EDT Apr 11, 2017

[Pavlov]

http://www.wyff4.com/article/3-carolina-senators-including-lindsey-graham-among-least-popular-poll-finds/9262740

Of the 100 members of the Senate, only one has a higher disapproval than approval rating, according to the poll: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Updated: 5:06 PM EDT Apr 11, 2017 :lol Way to shit on yourself, ducks.

[spurraider21]

http://www.wyff4.com/article/3-carolina-senators-including-lindsey-graham-among-least-popular-poll-finds/9262740

Of the 100 members of the Senate, only one has a higher disapproval than approval rating, according to the poll: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.
Updated: 5:06 PM EDT Apr 11, 2017
:lol


Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders leads the poll with the highest approval rating of 75 percent.

[clambake]

hey ducks, any chance you're standing on a hot plate?

[ducks]

Sorry. FWIW.

McCain is vastly more fit than the current draft dodging sack of shit in the oval office.

https://media.giphy.com/media/UsYpKp9s2gTy8/giphy.gif
people in usa that voted said otherwise

McCain lost when he ran for president

[ducks]

Mitch McConnell I am not thrilled with him either or paul ryan for that matter

like I said 12 senators 6 democrats 6 rebublicans
water and a toilet lock the door get the deal people can live with
then come out
after 6 days lock the president in there with them to get it done if nothing happens

[baseline bum]

Mitch McConnell I am not thrilled with him either or paul ryan for that matter

like I said 12 senators 6 democrats 6 rebublicans
water and a toilet lock the door get the deal people can live with
then come out
after 6 days lock the president in there with them to get it done if nothing happens

Just lock the president in there and leave him tbh

[SnakeBoy]

Mitch McConnell I am not thrilled with him either or paul ryan for that matter

like I said 12 senators 6 democrats 6 rebublicans
water and a toilet lock the door get the deal people can live with
then come out
after 6 days lock the president in there with them to get it done if nothing happens

All you'd end up with is a bill 12 people supported. No need to put POTUS in there, he'll support whatever gets to his desk.

[baseline bum]

No need to put POTUS in there, he'll support whatever gets to his desk.

I doubt he'd sign the bill McConnell was threatening to write with the Democrats to stabilize the insurance markets a couple of weeks ago.

[boutons_deux]

Chelsea C giving the Repugs some help

https://twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/890690258291093506

[baseline bum]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/
PERRY BACON JR. 9:28 PM
I Think This Is Going To Pass

I’ve been walking around on the Senate side of the U.S. Capitol with the press corps. When a key member who seems undecided is walking to or leaving the Senate floor, 10 to 15 reporters swarm him or her and ask about the status of their vote.

So I was standing near John McCain when he made a statement suggesting that Paul Ryan’s commitment to a conference if the Senate passes “skinny repeal” was “not sufficient.” Lindsey Graham was similarly noncommittal.

I would not put much stock in these remarks. Senate Republican leaders seem fairly confident that the chamber will vote late Thursday or in early hours of Friday on this legislation. By emphasizing that there will be some kind of conference, Senate leaders have turned this vote into essentially another “motion to proceed,” even though it is in fact a policy bill that could have a huge impact if it becomes law. This has become, at least to the Republican senators, a vote to keep the Obamacare repeal process going. So I’m having a hard time seeing a bloc of members voting it down.

[Reck]

Lindsay Graham and the other 2 idiots will vote yes after being told there will be a conference by Ryan....by phone.

:lmao

These guys are so stupid.

[baseline bum]

Lindsay Graham and the other 2 idiots will vote yes after being told there will be a conference by Ryan....by phone.

:lmao

These guys are so stupid.

It was obvious they were all going to vote for it in that stupid press conference. Heller was the only person who was going to stop this bill and he already bowed down to the Dear Leader.

[baseline bum]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 10:03 PM
What’s In The Bill

We have a “skinny repeal” bill.

It’s just eight pages. It includes a provision that would prevent Medicaid funding from going to Planned Parenthood for a year, a provision the Senate parliamentarian has advised is outside the bounds of Senate rules. It would effectively end the individual mandate, as well as the employer mandate. It would extend the delay on the medical device tax to 2020 and increase limits on health savings accounts. It also would expand waivers that states could use to get around the regulations on insurance markets imposed by the ACA.

[baseline bum]

The fuck? Is McConnell going to put this up for vote so that it can fail and he can wash his hands of the repeal while letting all his GOP colleagues vote for the repeal but not have to enact anything? Because it sounds like it needs 60 votes to pass. Or is McConnell changing the rules of the senate?

[ducks]

Lindsay Graham and the other 2 idiots will vote yes after being told there will be a conference by Ryan....by phone.

:lmao

These guys are so stupid.
What is your I Q?

All I remember Clinton was going to win big.

[Th'Pusher]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 10:03 PM
What’s In The Bill

We have a “skinny repeal” bill.

It’s just eight pages. It includes a provision that would prevent Medicaid funding from going to Planned Parenthood for a year, a provision the Senate parliamentarian has advised is outside the bounds of Senate rules. It would effectively end the individual mandate, as well as the employer mandate. It would extend the delay on the medical device tax to 2020 and increase limits on health savings accounts. It also would expand waivers that states could use to get around the regulations on insurance markets imposed by the ACA.

No doubt that'll make America great again.

[Reck]

What is your I Q?

All I remember Clinton was going to win big.

You asking anyone about their IQ. :lmao :lmao :lol ducks

[baseline bum]

Vote is supposed to be in two hours.

[baseline bum]

HARRY ENTEN 10:14 PM

The Cadillac Tax repeal has passed the Senate and will be part of the “skinny repeal” bill. That’s the ACA tax on high-cost employer-provided insurance. This repeal was sponsored by Nevada Sen. Dean Heller, in large part because the normally Democratic-leaning Culinary Workers Union in Nevada backed its repeal. Democratic Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada also voted for the measure. The fact that Nevada senators from both parties were united shows that state politics still play a role in how senators are voting on different possible provisions of the Republican health care bill.

[baseline bum]

PERRY BACON JR. 10:12 PM

Democratic senators saw the text of this bill at the same time we did. About 10 p.m. Two hours before the vote.



PERRY BACON JR. 10:11 PM

Sen. Chris Murphy, a Democrat from Connecticut, calls this process “an an embarrassment” and “nuclear-grade bonkers.”

[ducks]

lol they brought single payer
0 democrats voted for it

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 10:17 PM
A Path To The President’s Desk For “Skinny Repeal”

Ryan has apparently provided reassurance to skittish senators that he will definitely have the House go to conference rather than immediately pass “skinny repeal” — or what is now called the Health Care Freedom Act.

There’s not much reason to doubt that Ryan will go to conference. While there are no legal assurances of this, to fail to do so would be extremely damaging to House-Senate relations. The GOP still has a lot of legislative business later this year for which it will need the House and Senate to cooperate.

The question is what happens if that conference fails — which seems fairly likely given that the Senate has had so much trouble passing a more comprehensive bill. At that point, the House could still just pass the Health Care Freedom Act, and it would go to Trump’s desk. The extra items that Republicans added to the bill, such as the provision to defund Planned Parenthood, seem designed to help increase the likelihood of House approval.

[monosylab1k]

Chelsea C giving the Repugs some help

https://twitter.com/ChelseaClinton/status/890690258291093506

Nobody cares what that cunt has to say. Fuck her and her family. The sooner she realizes she has zero political future, the better.

[ducks]

Lol donkeys

[monosylab1k]

This thing has been declared "dead" like 500 times by liberal pundits, only to keep coming back. This shit is getting passed, if not now then some point between now and 2018. Just get it the fuck over with.

[ducks]

NATE SILVER 10:17 PM
A Path To The President’s Desk For “Skinny Repeal”

Ryan has apparently provided reassurance to skittish senators that he will definitely have the House go to conference rather than immediately pass “skinny repeal” — or what is now called the Health Care Freedom Act.

There’s not much reason to doubt that Ryan will go to conference. While there are no legal assurances of this, to fail to do so would be extremely damaging to House-Senate relations. The GOP still has a lot of legislative business later this year for which it will need the House and Senate to cooperate.

The question is what happens if that conference fails — which seems fairly likely given that the Senate has had so much trouble passing a more comprehensive bill. At that point, the House could still just pass the Health Care Freedom Act, and it would go to Trump’s desk. The extra items that Republicans added to the bill, such as the provision to defund Planned Parenthood, seem designed to help increase the likelihood of House approval.

Lol if Nate gets something right

[baseline bum]

Lol if Nate gets something right

Nate was about the only person giving Trump a chance on election day son.

[baseline bum]

This thing has been declared "dead" like 500 times by liberal pundits, only to keep coming back. This shit is getting passed, if not now then some point between now and 2018. Just get it the fuck over with.

I still don't see how this passes without 60 votes unless McConnell just says fuck the rules of the senate. Which I guess he will? I can't believe anyone would ever declare Trumpcare as dead. I do think if this fails tonight they might wait for January 2019 when they'll very likely have a much bigger cushion in the senate to basically pass the AHCA or maybe even a full repeal (25 of the 33 seats up in the midterm are currently held by Democrats, including seats in Montana and Missouri). Though they'll probably lose seats in the house and perhaps even control, so it would be risky.

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 10:29 PM

One thing that “skinny repeal” doesn’t include is additional funding for opioid treatment, as had reportedly been considered for inclusion at earlier stages. West Virginia’s Capito, one of the GOP senators most concerned about opioid treatment, hasn’t yet taken a clear position on the just-released bill.

[baseline bum]

Doesn't matter, Capito will surely be a yes vote.

[baseline bum]

PERRY BACON JR. 10:37 PM

The silence in the last 30 minutes from Heller, Moran and McCain — folks who have been more critical of the Obamacare repeal push — is telling. I just don’t see members who have not signaled opposition in the last few hours suddenly voting against this. I assume the leadership has some sense that they have 50 votes. They are acting confident.

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 10:42 PM

To Harry’s point — I don’t think the objections from the right to “skinny repeal” are all kabuki. I think a lot of people, from Sean Hannity to people from the GOP’s more moderate wing, have a lot of sincere objections to it. That debate and the conference negotiations could be quite painful for Republicans. But of the major three outcomes that might emerge from the conference — 1) the conference succeeds and an AHCA-type bill passes, 2) the conference fails to reach compromise and nothing passes, 3) the conference fails to reach a compromise and the House approves “skinny repeal” as a default — I still think No. 3 is the most likely.

[baseline bum]

HARRY ENTEN 10:45 PM

To Nate’s point, I think the fact that No. 3 (the conference failing to compromise and the House approving “skinny repeal”) shows that what some GOP senators are trying to convince people of (that this won’t be the final bill) isn’t exactly on the level. Whatever you think of “skinny repeal,” realize that it has a good shot at becoming law. I think the fact that senators will vote for it knowing that tells you how they really feel about the bill. It may not be great, but they still view it as better than nothing.

[baseline bum]

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 10:47 PM
The Rules Of Reconciliation

Earlier information about the bill suggested that it might run afoul of Senate rules in several ways. As I wrote earlier in the day, because the GOP is pursuing this bill through reconciliation, it must reduce the deficit by at least as much as the House bill did in order to pass with 50 votes (Vice President Mike Pence would serve as tiebreaker). Otherwise, the bill would need 60 votes, a tall order given that there are 52 Senate Republicans. The Congressional Budget Office released tables last night based on a variation of what was expected to be in the bill, and those tables suggested that the bill didn’t save enough money to comply with the rules. The text of this bill is largely similar to what the CBO analyzed, but there are some notable differences. We’re still reading, and the bill could change on the floor, but without a CBO score, it’s hard to say whether it meets the budgetary requirements.

The bill also includes at least two provisions that the Senate parliamentarian has advised fall outside of the rules of reconciliation: defunding of Planned Parenthood and state waivers to insurance regulations. However, Senate Republicans have made some changes to those amendments, and it looks like they might both now clear the reconciliation hurdles. Restrictions on Medicaid funding to health providers that perform abortions have been made more general (I don’t believe the parliamentarian has ruled one way or another on this more general language, though Republican senators presumably consulted with her).

As for the the waivers for insurance regulations, previous GOP versions of the bill significantly opened up what states could do with their insurance markets. This version appears to require that any waivers on the insurance system still cover as many people as would be covered under the full suite of Obamacare regulations, which could allow that provision to pass with 50 votes as well.

[baseline bum]

PERRY BACON JR. 10:49 PM

The liberal “resistance” deserves some credit: It really reshaped this bill. McConnell started off looking to pass a bill with huge tax cuts for the wealthy and Medicaid cuts. Those proved very unpopular with the public. Liberals organized town halls and protests. So the tax cuts and Medicaid cuts had to be shelved. This is a smaller bill, and it has moved left from where the GOP started. That said, it would still be a huge blow for Democrats. This could blow up the individual health insurance market if it becomes law.

[Adam Lambert]

That said, it would still be a huge blow for Democrats. This could blow up the individual health insurance market if it becomes law.

that sounds like a huge blow for republicans to me.

fuck it.

[baseline bum]

DAN HOPKINS 11:06 PM
One Winner If The Senate Repeal Bill Passes? The House

When the House passed the American Health Care Act in May, one selling point was that the Senate would hammer out a better plan — and the House would then pass the Senate’s plan, sparing the Senate a second vote. That plan ceded to the Senate GOP relatively wide latitude to design its own health care bill. But the Senate seems poised to punt back to the House via a conference committee, so the House now has newfound sway over the final product. Ironically, the Senate was unable to fashion a more comprehensive compromise among its members in this round and may well have reduced influence over what emerges in the next round.

[baseline bum]

PERRY BACON JR. 11:07 PM

The money line from the CBO report: “CBO and JCT estimate that premiums for policies in the nongroup market would increase by roughly 20 percent relative to current law in all years between 2018 and 2026.

[baseline bum]

So this is probably a done deal, this will become law. And McCain will give another long-winded speech about how much he hates the process while voting for it.

[baseline bum]

http://fivethirtyeight.com/live-blog/senate-vote-health-care/

ANNA MARIA BARRY-JESTER 11:11 PM

The CBO tables also show that the bill saves the necessary amount of money to meet the rules of reconciliation surrounding budget impact.

[monosylab1k]

890756732116447232

[ducks]

Midnight is better then 3 am

[Trainwreck2100]

Midnight is better then 3 am

on what metric are you basing that?

[Reck]

Midnight is better then 3 am

http://cdn.ebaumsworld.com/mediaFiles/picture/2234450/83507448.gif

[baseline bum]

PERRY BACON JR. 11:19 PM

The bill has out been out for about an hour, and I don’t think I’ve seen a single Republican senator who has committed to voting against it. Either we are going to see some kind of “West Wing”-style dramatic moment, or it’s passing. I would bet on passage.

[baseline bum]

HARRY ENTEN 11:21 PM

It’s hard to find supportive voices for this bill or the process on social media right now. Usually, I’d say that social media isn’t representative of the public, but in this case it is. We’re seeing a bill come up for a vote in the middle of the night that has very little public support and could have major policy implications. Traditionally, I’d think of that as some form of electoral suicide, but we’re still more than a year from the 2018 midterm elections.

[ducks]

It will matter what the bill President signs

[baseline bum]

DAN HOPKINS 11:44 PM

We typically think of legislation as having a mix of political and policy motivations, but given how dramatically the Senate GOP’s policy proposals have swung, it seems safe to say that the motivation here is primarily political. That is, the GOP is desperate to pass a bill that credibly undermines the ACA, whether it dramatically changes Medicaid and shores up the exchanges or destabilizes the exchanges while leaving Medicaid untouched. But my question is this: Are the political payoffs to passing this bill anywhere near as large as the GOP’s actions imply?

[Adam Lambert]

they wrote a bill over lunch that they are going to pass in the middle of the night without answering any questions about it.

no sane person can justify this

fuck republicans

[Chucho]

they wrote a bill over lunch that they are going to pass in the middle of the night without answering any questions about it.

no sane person can justify this

fuck republicans

Nor defend Leftism, but you do.

Fuck you.

[cd021]

they wrote a bill over lunch that they are going to pass in the middle of the night without answering any questions about it.

no sane person can justify this

fuck republicans

Trump supporters say hi.

[baseline bum]

they wrote a bill over lunch that they are going to pass in the middle of the night without answering any questions about it.

no sane person can justify this

fuck republicans

Trump needs a tax cut for himself.

[ducks]

they wrote a bill over lunch that they are going to pass in the middle of the night without answering any questions about it.

no sane person can justify this

fuck republicansthey can not Adam

[DMX7]

so courageous to pass a bill with no hearings in the dead of night after reading it for the first time a couple of hours ago.

[AaronY]

It will matter what the bill President signs
Not not to you as you'll gargle with his balls regardless

[Th'Pusher]

Nor defend Leftism, but you do.

Fuck you.

Did a leftist fuck you in the butthole?

[boutons_deux]

890756732116447232

it wasn't in the dead of night, and the Dems were happy with ACA

Bitch McC is such a trivial lying bastard

[monosylab1k]

Did a leftist fuck you in the butthole?

Even worse. They said mean words to him :cry

[Chucho]

Did a leftist fuck you in the butthole?

Im not the one on 24-7 rage about the Right. Seems like y'all got but fucked.


Cue the semen shielding, hypocrisy that elementary kids are calling out and same ol hat that will roll out.

[Chucho]

Even worse. They said mean words to him :cry

LOL says Mr. Ignorelist Safespace

[Chucho]

Even worse. They said mean words to him :cry


Cue the semen shielding, hypocrisy that elementary kids are calling out and same ol hat that will roll out.

[Th'Pusher]

Im not the one on 24-7 rage about the Right. Seems like y'all got but fucked.


Cue the semen shielding, hypocrisy that elementary kids are calling out and same ol hat that will roll out.

No. You're on 24-7 rage about the left. It's all you talk about. A leftist clearly fucked your butthole while wearing some John Lennon glasses and a military jacket. Came square on your brown back.

[Chucho]

No. You're on 24-7 rage about the left. It's all you talk about. A leftist clearly fucked your butthole while wearing some John Lennon glasses and a military jacket. Came square on your brown back.

LOL. Do you ignore the rest of the political forum willfully or just really, really selective? Either way, you're raging, pal. Don't be mad.

[Chucho]

And not Mexican. But thank you for continuing the 200+ years of DemoKKKrat racism and homo eroticism so well.

[AaronY]

Watch out for Chucho, he's edgy!!

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 12:45 AM

This is what we’ve come to: Betting market prices are fluctuating wildly between about 60 percent and 75 percent for bill passage as people try to interpret tweets about John McCain’s body language.

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 12:54 AM

Betting markets — which, as a reminder, aren’t always that bright — now have the odds of passage down to about 45 percent.

[baseline bum]

LOL betting markets looking at McCain's body language. He'll vote with the GOP like he always does.

[baseline bum]

890798354141036544

[AaronY]

I give it bout tree fiddy percent chance

[Th'Pusher]

LOL. Do you ignore the rest of the political forum willfully or just really, really selective? Either way, you're raging, pal. Don't be mad.

I don't ignore anything vato. I just notice you're obsessed with leftists.

Little commie popped you right in the butthole.

[AaronY]

Dude careful with Choo Choo he's real edgy he's all about how the Democrats are the new KKK and how about he's going to fuck your mother's rotted out corpse in the eye socket and such. I wouldn't mess with that!

[baseline bum]

McCain is such an attention whore. Now he's over laughing with a bunch of Democrat senators.

[baseline bum]

NATE SILVER 1:05 AM

At least judging from our own reporting, I think most Senate reporters thought it was going to pass because the GOP was projecting confidence, with the vote proceeding on schedule, Pence coming to the Senate floor to break the 50-50 tie, etc. And now Senate leadership seems genuinely surprised that they’re having trouble rounding up 51 votes. What’s less certain is 1) whether they had 51 votes and then someone switched last minute, 2) whether they were incautiously counting “unknowns” as “yeses,” or 3) whether they never had the votes but were acting like it as a confidence trick.

[SnakeBoy]

so courageous to pass a bill with no hearings in the dead of night after reading it for the first time a couple of hours ago.

we have to pass it to find out what's in it

[baseline bum]

890800657032110080

[Reck]

890798354141036544

They lost someone and are stalling trying to get that person back. Probably will.

They're behind on the vote for almost an hour now.