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12-23-2021, 12:29 PM
I almost forgot about Avenatti I do remember when he was in CNN and MSNBC and ABC almost every day with reporters gushing over him saying he would make a great President. All the Hollywood cracks looked like they wanted him to the new Hero and were ready to crown him our new President. It’s funny how things work out

Old Stormy lost case and has to pay Trumps legal fees and has charged the lefts POTUS “Avenatti” for stealing her money ��

Funny Avenatti is now in Prison he asked for reading material one of the first books they brought him was Trumps book - Art Of The Deal”.

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12-23-2021, 01:12 PM
I almost forgot about Avenatti I do remember when he was in CNN and MSNBC and ABC almost every day with reporters gushing over him saying he would make a great President. All the Hollywood cracks looked like they wanted him to the new Hero and were ready to crown him our new President. It’s funny how things work out

Old Stormy lost case and has to pay Trumps legal fees and has charged the lefts POTUS “Avenatti” for stealing her money ��

Funny Avenatti is now in Prison he asked for reading material one of the first books they brought him was Trumps book - Art Of The Deal”.


Yeah, he'd have all the settlements he'd broker sent to him, take a goodly portion of each for himself and then send the remaining change to the client. LMAO!!!

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12-23-2021, 01:32 PM
I'll tell ya's what: when Stormy dresses in those pink & teal blue outfits I get all close to a boner. She reminds me of Marilyn Monroe in -The Misfits-

All dried out, wistful, the cusp of age, withered a bit.

We was watching one night on the CNN...when she came on you know dressed like that..."How bout if you get an outfi..."

"No, Dale, no."

RandomGuy
12-23-2021, 02:06 PM
https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/84dd136c-7820-4161-aded-87ebcb7ca7d3

Inside a two-bedroom apartment, 11 blocks from the ocean, there is a man in free fall, though he has nowhere to go. He wears a monitor on his right ankle, government-issued, blinking green beneath his tapered track pants. He doesn’t leave, except for court appearances and medical appointments. He makes calls on a red flip phone, designed for seniors by a company called Jitterbug: big buttons, no internet, cell service from Cricket Wireless. His old iPhone — the one where he handled his TV bookings, tapped out tweets and called reporters, wresting each story into the version he wanted, with charm, with pure aggression, with whatever the day required — now goes straight to voicemail.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/12/22/michael-avenatti-rise-and-fall-house-arrest-profile-525301

:lmao

:lol Pizzaboichik's necro posting for a "w". Sooooo desperate.

So sad. But hey if it makes you happy and warm inside for the yule saturnalia christmas season, be happy.

Cuck Ross
12-23-2021, 04:38 PM
:lol Pizzaboichik's necro posting for a "w". Sooooo desperate.

So sad. But hey if it makes you happy and warm inside for the yule saturnalia christmas season, be happy.
Legal fucking ninja :lmao

koriwhat
12-23-2021, 07:22 PM
:lol Pizzaboichik's necro posting for a "w". Sooooo desperate.

So sad. But hey if it makes you happy and warm inside for the yule saturnalia christmas season, be happy.

Damn you're salty over your boyfriend Avenatti... :lmao:lol

koriwhat
12-23-2021, 07:24 PM
I almost forgot about Avenatti I do remember when he was in CNN and MSNBC and ABC almost every day with reporters gushing over him saying he would make a great President. All the Hollywood cracks looked like they wanted him to the new Hero and were ready to crown him our new President. It’s funny how things work out

Old Stormy lost case and has to pay Trumps legal fees and has charged the lefts POTUS “Avenatti” for stealing her money ��

Funny Avenatti is now in Prison he asked for reading material one of the first books they brought him was Trumps book - Art Of The Deal”.

Funny how they prefer nothing but scumbags similar to Cuomo. They gush over losers and those who sell our country out like Biden. Fuck them all tbh!

ChumpDumper
12-23-2021, 07:41 PM
You love Trump tho.

spurraider21
12-23-2021, 07:47 PM
Legal fucking ninja :lmao
you have your legal ninja avenatti

i have super lawyer lin wood

koriwhat
12-23-2021, 07:54 PM
you have your legal ninja avenatti

i have super lawyer lin wood

Both are fucking retards who convinced a bunch of other retards that they were legit and to be trusted.

spurraider21
12-23-2021, 08:12 PM
Both are fucking retards who convinced a bunch of other retards that they were legit and to be trusted.
not wrong there :lol

RandomGuy
01-03-2022, 08:32 AM
Legal fucking ninja :lmao

#stillwithhimstopthesteal :lmao

spurraider21
01-28-2022, 02:45 PM
:lol

I would agree. Again, dude is a legal fucking ninja.
:lol

hater
01-28-2022, 02:48 PM
983441571952713728

:lol

:lmao

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01-28-2022, 04:00 PM
Hate to see Stormy lose her yout. A bummer.

spurraider21
02-04-2022, 02:59 PM
legal fucking ninja guilty on both counts :lol

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02-04-2022, 03:10 PM
legal fucking ninja guilty on both counts :lol

Thank Christ. But she'll never get that 300k back, it's GWTW, and that was like money from home.

I'm sick over it for her.

SnakeBoy
03-22-2022, 03:59 PM
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koriwhat
03-22-2022, 04:54 PM
1506064853445795845

LMAO at that used up whore SD. What a dumbass she and her pornstar lawyer are. :lmao

ElNono
03-22-2022, 10:00 PM
1506064853445795845

Technically, she owes Trump's lawyers attorney fees. Time to write another book.

MultiTroll
03-26-2024, 01:45 PM
LMAO at that used up whore SD.
Karey are you still laughing?

MultiTroll
03-26-2024, 01:46 PM
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/PeHE_6WjtAD86auBR__V6A--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTcyMA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/business_insider_articles_888/c291308438885d05f426fd10def7ba2d
Judge Juan Merchan

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03-26-2024, 01:48 PM
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Judge Juan Merchan

Fuckin' beaner.

Ef-man
03-26-2024, 02:00 PM
Karey are you still laughing?

Calf-tats' boss/mom is on his lazy ass so wait until she leaves to hear back from him.

Ef-man
03-26-2024, 08:23 PM
NY judge issues gag order on Yam Tits in hush money trial. :lol

koriwhat
03-28-2024, 02:18 PM
Karey are you still laughing?

No one cares what you have to say PEDO!

Ef-man
03-28-2024, 02:38 PM
Karey are you still laughing?

Karey is just upset his boss/mom does it multiple times for free.

Ef-man
04-03-2024, 07:20 PM
Unlike calf-tats boss/mom, judges says no :lol


The judge presiding over Yam Tits' upcoming New York criminal trial denied his motion to delay its start until after the US Supreme Court rules on Yam Tits' presidential immunity claim.

Judge Juan Merchan denied the motion Wednesday calling it untimely and noting Yam Tits' lawyers had months to file a motion over the issue.

“This Court finds that Defendant had myriad opportunities to raise the claim of presidential immunity well before March 7, 2024,” the order says. “After all, Defendant had already briefed the same issue in federal court and he was in possession of, and aware that, the People intended to offer the relevant evidence at trial that entire time. The circumstances, viewed as a whole, test this Court’s credulity.”

MultiTroll
04-03-2024, 07:56 PM
Unlike calf-tats boss/mom, judges says no :lol


The judge presiding over Yam Tits' upcoming New York criminal trial denied his motion to delay its start until after the US Supreme Court rules on Yam Tits' presidential immunity claim.

Judge Juan Merchan denied the motion Wednesday calling it untimely and noting Yam Tits' lawyers had months to file a motion over the issue.

“This Court finds that Defendant had myriad opportunities to raise the claim of presidential immunity well before March 7, 2024,” the order says. “After all, Defendant had already briefed the same issue in federal court and he was in possession of, and aware that, the People intended to offer the relevant evidence at trial that entire time. The circumstances, viewed as a whole, test this Court’s credulity.”
https://s.yimg.com/ny/api/res/1.2/PeHE_6WjtAD86auBR__V6A--/YXBwaWQ9aGlnaGxhbmRlcjt3PTk2MDtoPTcyMA--/https://media.zenfs.com/en/business_insider_articles_888/c291308438885d05f426fd10def7ba2d

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04-03-2024, 08:38 PM
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They want that old man, and they want him bad.

WANTED! For making President of the United States.

MultiTroll
04-05-2024, 02:52 PM
Enjoy the show.
Trump and his bitch lawyers attempt to block was laughed out of court.

Trump subpoena to NBC over Stormy Daniels documentary blocked by judge (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-subpoena-to-nbc-over-stormy-daniels-documentary-blocked-by-judge/ar-BB1l8QrY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3c454af1498b415a95859bb58fbc3f3e&ei=14)

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04-05-2024, 02:57 PM
Enjoy the show.
Trump and his bitch lawyers attempt to block was laughed out of court.

Trump subpoena to NBC over Stormy Daniels documentary blocked by judge (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-subpoena-to-nbc-over-stormy-daniels-documentary-blocked-by-judge/ar-BB1l8QrY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3c454af1498b415a95859bb58fbc3f3e&ei=14)

Keep appealin'. If that fails, hang just 1.

Ef-man
04-05-2024, 03:03 PM
Enjoy the show.
Trump and his bitch lawyers attempt to block was laughed out of court.

Trump subpoena to NBC over Stormy Daniels documentary blocked by judge (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/trump-subpoena-to-nbc-over-stormy-daniels-documentary-blocked-by-judge/ar-BB1l8QrY?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=3c454af1498b415a95859bb58fbc3f3e&ei=14)

Even the judge laughed!

"His subpoena and the demands therein are the very definition of a fishing expedition," the judge wrote in a court order. :lmao :lmao :lmao

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04-05-2024, 03:23 PM
Even the judge laughed!

"His subpoena and the demands therein are the very definition of a fishing expedition," the judge wrote in a court order. :lmao :lmao :lmao


Keep appealin', Effy. If that fails; hang just 1.

MultiTroll
04-12-2024, 08:29 AM
On eve of hush money trial, big, bold Donald Trump shows he's nothing but a giant chicken (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/on-eve-of-hush-money-trial-big-bold-donald-trump-shows-he-s-nothing-but-a-giant-chicken/ar-BB1luVqN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2a8c83905f9049e79f632d9ee3039011&ei=31)

Karey is this what you're like?

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04-12-2024, 08:58 AM
On eve of hush money trial, big, bold Donald Trump shows he's nothing but a giant chicken (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/on-eve-of-hush-money-trial-big-bold-donald-trump-shows-he-s-nothing-but-a-giant-chicken/ar-BB1luVqN?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=2a8c83905f9049e79f632d9ee3039011&ei=31)

Karey is this what you're like?

- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

MultiTroll
04-12-2024, 09:10 AM
Health care plan.
Mexico building a wall.


- "Promises, promises."

- Ernie "The Cat" Ladd

MultiTroll
04-12-2024, 09:10 AM
Rump impressing his future potential hook ups:

https://www.tiktok.com/@evaandjavier/video/7356631858303733038?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

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04-12-2024, 09:13 AM
Health care plan.
Mexico building a wall.

...leaving Clinton where he found her.

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04-12-2024, 09:13 AM
Rump impressing his future potential hook ups:

https://www.tiktok.com/@evaandjavier/video/7356631858303733038?is_from_webapp=1&sender_device=pc

Everything is on the table, Mult...even "5th Avenue."

Just keep reflecting upon "Ace Merrill" -Stand by Me- ..."And if you think we're gonna forget about this, you're wrong. This is big time, baby."

MultiTroll
04-12-2024, 09:17 AM
Everything is on the table, Mult...even "5th Avenue."

Just keep reflecting upon "Ace Merrill" -Stand by Me- ..."And if you think we're gonna forget about this, you're wrong. This is big time, baby."
Promises promises.

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04-12-2024, 09:30 AM
Promises promises.

I'm a trend setter.
I set trends.

MultiTroll
04-17-2024, 11:12 PM
Is Trump going with bribery, extortion or intimidation?
All of the above?

Dk how he's going to con this juror #2.

gets her news primarily from the New York Times, CNN and Google.

Winehole23
04-17-2024, 11:14 PM
Team Trump used a bunch of peremptory challenges early, c'est la vie.

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04-17-2024, 11:17 PM
Is Trump going with bribery, extortion or intimidation?
All of the above?

Dk how he's going to con this juror #2.

gets her news primarily from the New York Times, CNN and Google.

Just need to hang one, son.

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04-17-2024, 11:17 PM
Team Trump used a bunch of peremptory challenges early, c'est la vie.

Just need to hang 1, Winester.

MultiTroll
04-17-2024, 11:19 PM
Team Trump used a bunch of peremptory challenges early, c'est la vie.
Isn't Trump amoral con artist character so well known in Manhattan that like 90% see him for what he is?

Then again, does he only need to threaten / bribe / assault one juror to prevail?

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04-17-2024, 11:20 PM
Isn't Trump amoral con artist character so well known in Manhattan that like 90% see him for what he is?

Then again, does he only need to threaten / bribe / assault one juror to prevail?

...Whatever it takes...Yes.

MultiTroll
04-18-2024, 10:29 AM
Team Trump used a bunch of peremptory challenges early, c'est la vie.
Right on cue, Juror #2 recluses herself.
Cited sniffing media.

Don Henley said it best 40 some years ago in Dirty Laundry.
A good portion of these phucks are a bane to our existence.

Much as i like this judge, you couldn't have seen this coming?
Letting these sniffy demons print all kinds of identifying info on the jurors.

I think Trumpler walks. Hope I'm wrong.

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04-18-2024, 10:56 AM
Right on cue, Juror #2 recluses herself.
Cited sniffing media.

Don Henley said it best 40 some years ago in Dirty Laundry.
A good portion of these phucks are a bane to our existence.

Much as i like this judge, you couldn't have seen this coming?
Letting these sniffy demons print all kinds of identifying info on the jurors.

I think Trumpler walks. Hope I'm wrong.

And it's pure truth...right away State sponsored CNN and their colleagues over at MSNBC start in on the jury...they'll glean their personal shit as soon as possible and then start hasslin' them night & day,,,not so much to influence their vote, but to get them off the jury..."I'm quitting, judge, life is too short."...but to lessen the odds that Trump can hang one of these cats.

State sponsored CNN was overjoyed this fellow quit...big headline over at the CNN right now. This is stated warning to anyone who thinks they'll vote not guilty. "Think again, daddy-O...we'll nag you into the grave. You'll have no peace as long as you live."

Russia ain't got nothin' on this democracy, Mult. Nary a thing.

MultiTroll
04-18-2024, 12:43 PM
And it's pure truth...right away State sponsored CNN and their colleagues over at MSNBC start in on the jury...they'll glean their personal shit as soon as possible and then start hasslin' them night & day,,,not so much to influence their vote, but to get them off the jury..."I'm quitting, judge, life is too short."...but to lessen the odds that Trump can hang one of these cats.

State sponsored CNN was overjoyed this fellow quit...big headline over at the CNN right now. This is stated warning to anyone who thinks they'll vote not guilty. "Think again, daddy-O...we'll nag you into the grave. You'll have no peace as long as you live."

Russia ain't got nothin' on this democracy, Mult. Nary a thing.
Juror #2 was decidedly favored to vote Trump guilty.
Try again.

Dk about the other one.

MultiTroll
05-08-2024, 12:18 PM
"How many details can you really give about two minutes?" Daniels replied, before interviewer Amy Chozick quipped: "Two minutes?" to which Daniels said: "Maybe. I'm being generous."

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05-08-2024, 12:22 PM
"How many details can you really give about two minutes?" Daniels replied, before interviewer Amy Chozick quipped: "Two minutes?" to which Daniels said: "Maybe. I'm being generous."

Nothin' wrong with that time frame...you nut, and you're back on here bustin' snut.

Ef-man
05-08-2024, 12:31 PM
"How many details can you really give about two minutes?" Daniels replied, before interviewer Amy Chozick quipped: "Two minutes?" to which Daniels said: "Maybe. I'm being generous."

:lmao :lmao :lmao

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05-08-2024, 12:33 PM
.

lmemulatedao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Winehole23
05-09-2024, 07:36 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNEw96UbsAA2Qpn?format=jpg&name=small

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05-09-2024, 08:07 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GNEw96UbsAA2Qpn?format=jpg&name=small

Winester; easin' on down into the do-do.

Ya look pisser, kid.

Welcome.

CosmicCowboy
05-09-2024, 07:09 PM
Why was stormy Daniel's even a witness? It has nothing to do with the charges of business records manipulation.

clambake
05-09-2024, 07:10 PM
Why was stormy Daniel's even a witness? It has nothing to do with the charges of business records manipulation.

Because he denied it.

CosmicCowboy
05-09-2024, 07:14 PM
Because he denied it.

And his denial that it never happened was irrelevant to the charges of business record manipulation. He never denied making the payments to make her go away.

ChumpDumper
05-09-2024, 07:25 PM
Why was stormy Daniel's even a witness? It has nothing to do with the charges of business records manipulation.

Shows how scared Von Shitzenpants was about this story's getting out and that he would break the law to keep it quiet.

clambake
05-09-2024, 07:34 PM
And his denial that it never happened was irrelevant to the charges of business record manipulation. He never denied making the payments to make her go away.

Well, just in case, maybe you bring’er in. He’s lies about everything.

It’s ok, buddy. You can still vote for him.

CosmicCowboy
05-09-2024, 07:52 PM
Well, just in case, maybe you bring’er in. He’s lies about everything.

It’s ok, buddy. You can still vote for him.

Not voting for him but totally get the political motivation for having her do her hit job. Her attempts at "me too" were hilarious but couldn't remember how she went from fully clothed to naked.

clambake
05-09-2024, 08:01 PM
Not voting for him but totally get the political motivation for having her do her hit job. Her attempts at "me too" were hilarious but couldn't remember how she went from fully clothed to naked.

She’s a porn star, he chased her for sex, then tried to pass her off to rothlisburger.

This is really eating at you.

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05-09-2024, 08:07 PM
Why was stormy Daniel's even a witness? It has nothing to do with the charges of business records manipulation.

Because he made President.

CosmicCowboy
05-09-2024, 08:39 PM
She’s a porn star, he chased her for sex, then tried to pass her off to rothlisburger.

This is really eating at you.

Not really. Just observing and commenting. Nothing "eating at me".

pgardn
05-09-2024, 08:41 PM
Not voting for him but totally get the political motivation for having her do her hit job. Her attempts at "me too" were hilarious but couldn't remember how she went from fully clothed to naked.

So why would he falsify business records?
It was random? Or did he falsify to aid in his bid for president. I mean, why would he falsify THESE records specifically.

cmon... you cant be this generous just because you claim to be a Rhino.

CosmicCowboy
05-09-2024, 08:43 PM
An alleged one night stand approximately 18 years ago. Payments made in 2016. Now a "trial" on "business records" in 2024. As much as I dislike Trump this is clearly politically. motivated. Obviously you guys can't admit that.

FrostKing
05-09-2024, 08:45 PM
Democrats priorities :lol

pgardn
05-09-2024, 08:49 PM
An alleged one night stand approximately 18 years ago. Payments made in 2016. Now a "trial" on "business records" in 2024. As much as I dislike Trump this is clearly politically. motivated. Obviously you guys can't admit that.

Hell yes its POLITICALLY motivated. Trump's motivation for changing the business records was POLITICAL.
Why cant you admit this? In POLITICS Trump CLEARLY thought having sex with a porn star would hurt his POLITICAL ambitions.
So the red team in its entirety is lost in the fog.
Change your reading habits.

clambake
05-09-2024, 08:51 PM
An alleged one night stand approximately 18 years ago. Payments made in 2016. Now a "trial" on "business records" in 2024. As much as I dislike Trump this is clearly politically. motivated. Obviously you guys can't admit that.

You mean politically motivated people that want to spare the world of this shitbag, right?

clambake
05-09-2024, 08:52 PM
Hard to let go, once he’s in, I guess.

CosmicCowboy
05-09-2024, 08:54 PM
Hell yes its POLITICALLY motivated. Trump's motivation for changing the business records was POLITICAL.
Why cant you admit this?

It probably was. Also could have been trying to keep it from his wife and kids. Sticking an unwrapped dick in stormy is obviously nothing you want to brag about.

pgardn
05-09-2024, 08:59 PM
It probably was. Also could have been trying to keep it from his wife and kids. Sticking an unwrapped dick in stormy is obviously nothing you want to brag about.

And thus it is important for him trying to hide this little tidbit for his election in 2016 via buyoff and falsifying the buyoff.
And hell yes Im sure it was also important for his wife and her kid (who appears unaffected since he will be a part of the Trump nomination speeches. Sounds like Barron is fine with all this.)

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05-09-2024, 09:00 PM
And thus it is important for him trying to hide this little tidbit for his election in 2016 via buyoff and falsifying the buyoff.
And hell yes Im sure it was also important for his wife and her kid (who appears unaffected since he will be a part of the Trump nomination speeches. Sounds like Barron is fine with all this.)

Boiled down? Because he made President.

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05-09-2024, 09:01 PM
Hard to let go, once he’s in, I guess.

You've been tryin' to get him out since Day 1 when he got in.

tee, hee.

pgardn
05-09-2024, 09:07 PM
Trump tests all the boundaries of the law.
>3000 lawsuits BEFORE he was president.
And people are surprised he had done something illegal?

My God... This is his goal as president, dismantle the legal system.
Just wear people down. This is a test for a nation built on laws.
This is exactly what autocrats try to accomplish.

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05-09-2024, 09:09 PM
Trump tests all the boundaries of the law.
>3000 lawsuits BEFORE he was president.
And people are surprised he had done something illegal?

My God... This is his goal as president, dismantle the legal system.
Just wear people down. This is a test for a nation built on laws.
This is exactly what autocrats try to accomplish.

As that piss-pot in the WH states, peeg..."Whatever it takes."

Let us proceed...

MultiTroll
05-09-2024, 10:05 PM
Trump tests all the boundaries of the law.
>3000 lawsuits BEFORE he was president.
And people are surprised he had done something illegal?

My God... This is his goal as president, dismantle the legal system.
Just wear people down. This is a test for a nation built on laws.
This is exactly what autocrats try to accomplish.
His parrot responds in the same manner. :lol

Hopefully Trump will get some kind of cuck cage like the parrot did.

Otherwise it's gonzo. I mean democracy already is gonzo in the US, but for now it's not a complete tear down like Orange is attempting.

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05-09-2024, 11:37 PM
His parrot responds in the same manner. :lol

Hopefully Trump will get some kind of cuck cage like the parrot did.

Otherwise it's gonzo. I mean democracy already is gonzo in the US, but for now it's not a complete tear down like Orange is attempting.

You're right about that, dad. Gone the minute Trump made President.

And dad? It's a statin' that-a-way ever more. It's my religion.

Spurs Homer
05-10-2024, 12:10 AM
An alleged one night stand approximately 18 years ago. Payments made in 2016. Now a "trial" on "business records" in 2024. As much as I dislike Trump this is clearly politically. motivated. Obviously you guys can't admit that.

Election interference.

The deal was for the enquirer (and russia) to plant fake news stories about trumps rivals/political opponents

that is why every time americans went to the grocery store in 2015-2016 the headlines about cruz father involved in jfk assasination…

hillary has cancer
hillary is a pedophile
hillary is an alien lol


and on the flipside

trumps fuckery was buried …porn star (hush her up)
playmate karen mcsomething (pay her off hush her up too)
doorman story (which ended up allegedly being false) about trump fathering a baby with a housekeeper - buried paid off 30k

election interference

add the russians buying facebook fake news ads to help trump/hurt hillary

and you have the reason why stormy is testifying now- because trump denied the affair-

he could either deny it- and stormy gets to testify her side of story
he could have just admitted it- and say stormy and falsifying business records is irrelevant
he could take the stand and testify under oath and dispute her account and let the jury decide (he wont)

in the end

just like you were told years ago

trump stole the election with russias help
enquirers help
michael cohen’s help and cohen eating the blame and going to prison for trump
russians hacking hillarys emails
russians stealing the hrc campaign playbook and delivering it to trump team to help him win election

then trump tried to cheat the 2020 election by extorting ukraine
same pattern
find dirt on biden or i wont send you weapons to fight putin/russia

2020 coup attempt to steal yet again the power he was not granted

you have all these facts for years and yet here you are falling for trumps fiction again and looking to blame everyone

except trump


sucker cultist

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05-10-2024, 12:12 AM
Election interference.

The deal was for the enquirer (and russia) to plant fake news stories about trumps rivals/political opponents

that is why every time americans went to the grocery store in 2015-2016 the headlines about cruz father involved in jfk assasination…

hillary has cancer
hillary is a pedophile
hillary is an alien lol


and on the flipside

trumps fuckery was buried …porn star (hush her up)
playmate karen mcsomething (pay her off hush her up too)
doorman story (which ended up allegedly being false) about trump fathering a baby with a housekeeper - buried paid off 30k

election interference

add the russians buying facebook fake news ads to help trump/hurt hillary

and you have the reason why stormy is testifying now- because trump denied the affair-

he could either deny it- and stormy gets to testify her side of story
he could have just admitted it- and say stormy and falsifying business records is irrelevant
he could take the stand and testify under oath and dispute her account and let the jury decide (he wont)

in the end

just like you were told years ago

trump stole the election with russias help
enquirers help
michael cohen’s help and cohen eating the blame and going to prison for trump
russians hacking hillarys emails
russians stealing the hrc campaign playbook and delivering it to trump team to help him win election

then trump tried to cheat the 2020 election by extorting ukraine
same pattern
find dirt on biden or i wont send you weapons to fight putin/russia

2020 coup attempt to steal yet again the power he was not granted

you have all these facts for years and yet here you are falling for trumps fiction again and looking to blame everyone

except trump


sucker cultist

Motherfucker? You couldn't drag me away.

Ef-man
05-10-2024, 01:48 AM
In nutshell from NYTimes:

Falsifying business records in New York State can be a misdemeanor. But it can be elevated to a felony if prosecutors prove that the records were falsified to conceal another crime.

In this case, there are three potential additional crimes that Mr. Bragg has accused Mr. Trump of concealing: a federal campaign finance violation, a state election-law crime and tax fraud.

The campaign crimes, prosecutors say, involve the hush-money payoffs to Ms. Daniels and Ms. McDougal. The payments, they argue, were illegal donations to Mr. Trump’s campaign.

The potential tax fraud stems from the way in which Mr. Cohen was reimbursed for his payment to Ms. Daniels.

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05-10-2024, 01:55 AM
In nutshell from NYTimes:

Falsifying business records in New York State can be a misdemeanor. But it can be elevated to a felony if prosecutors prove that the records were falsified to conceal another crime.

In this case, there are three potential additional crimes that Mr. Bragg has accused Mr. Trump of concealing: a federal campaign finance violation, a state election-law crime and tax fraud.

The campaign crimes, prosecutors say, involve the hush-money payoffs to Ms. Daniels and Ms. McDougal. The payments, they argue, were illegal donations to Mr. Trump’s campaign.

The potential tax fraud stems from the way in which Mr. Cohen was reimbursed for his payment to Ms. Daniels.

He made PresidentPERIOD

pgardn
05-10-2024, 06:49 AM
And thus it is important for him trying to hide this little tidbit for his election in 2016 via buyoff and falsifying the buyoff.
And hell yes Im sure it was also important for his wife and her kid (who appears unaffected since he will be a part of the Trump nomination speeches. Sounds like Barron is fine with all this.)

You won’t read this in conservative news.
if you find a conservative outlet, that actually claims this case might not rise the level of a felony, then you have a better point.
but claiming stormy Daniels has no relevance? it’s just not accurate

pgardn
05-10-2024, 07:18 AM
Why was stormy Daniel's even a witness? It has nothing to do with the charges of business records manipulation.

This is the nitty gritty that the jury should take in. That the business records were falsified. But the case rises to the level of a felony because manipulation was carried out because Trump thought the reason for manipulation was to hide the whole event from public view specifically because he was trying to hide this from the public so his bid for the presidency in 2016 would not be thwarted. Merely falsely manipulating business records is a less serious act. The prosecutor is calling it a felony.

This is what I have read in things I personally trust. So Daniels is very important. If the prosecution thought she would hurt the case because she is a lying bitch like Trump and cannot be trusted, then they probably would not put her on the stand.

Imo this is a serious Trump tactic. Surround yourself with mf’s that are dirt bags like you are and can’t be trusted to tell the truth.

MultiTroll
05-10-2024, 08:57 AM
sucker cultist


Motherfucker? You couldn't drag me away.
sucker cultist.

I like that.

Prawk prawk

ChumpDumper
05-10-2024, 09:04 AM
An alleged one night stand approximately 18 years ago. Payments made in 2016. Now a "trial" on "business records" in 2024. As much as I dislike Trump this is clearly politically. motivated. Obviously you guys can't admit that.

His breaking the law was politically motivated.

clambake
05-10-2024, 09:12 AM
It’s ok, you can still vote for him.

MultiTroll
05-10-2024, 09:46 AM
Donald Trump Jurors Were 'Trying To Suppress Laughter'—George Conway (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-jurors-were-trying-to-suppress-laughter-george-conway/ar-BB1m9toV?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=860121f8bc994485a3b5cc3c5d8d5cfd&ei=37)

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05-10-2024, 10:35 AM
You won’t read this in conservative news.
if you find a conservative outlet, that actually claims this case might not rise the level of a felony, then you have a better point.
but claiming stormy Daniels has no relevance? it’s just not accurate

...well, not since she aged like thus.

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05-10-2024, 10:36 AM
This is the nitty gritty that the jury should take in. That the business records were falsified. But the case rises to the level of a felony because manipulation was carried out because Trump thought the reason for manipulation was to hide the whole event from public view specifically because he was trying to hide this from the public so his bid for the presidency in 2016 would not be thwarted. Merely falsely manipulating business records is a less serious act. The prosecutor is calling it a felony.

This is what I have read in things I personally trust. So Daniels is very important. If the prosecution thought she would hurt the case because she is a lying bitch like Trump and cannot be trusted, then they probably would not put her on the stand.

Imo this is a serious Trump tactic. Surround yourself with mf’s that are dirt bags like you are and can’t be trusted to tell the truth.

...he's learned that tact from that race hustlin' fuck Hussein.

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05-10-2024, 10:37 AM
sucker cultist.

I like that.

Prawk prawk

You & Homer; sittin' in the tree.

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05-10-2024, 10:38 AM
His breaking the law was politically motivated.

So was threatening to assassinate him a half dozen times after he'd made President.

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05-10-2024, 10:40 AM
It’s ok, you can still vote for him.

Yep. You couldn't drag me away.

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05-10-2024, 10:41 AM
Donald Trump Jurors Were 'Trying To Suppress Laughter'—George Conway (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/donald-trump-jurors-were-trying-to-suppress-laughter-george-conway/ar-BB1m9toV?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=860121f8bc994485a3b5cc3c5d8d5cfd&ei=37)

GC is just mad because Trump wrecked his marriage and made the State take his children. He has visitation rights though.

tee, hee

koriwhat
05-10-2024, 04:38 PM
Trump tests all the boundaries of the law.
>3000 lawsuits BEFORE he was president.
And people are surprised he had done something illegal?

My God... This is his goal as president, dismantle the legal system.
Just wear people down. This is a test for a nation built on laws.
This is exactly what autocrats try to accomplish.

Chicken Little, is that you? :lmao

Winehole23
05-10-2024, 07:40 PM
His breaking the law was politically motivated.have a heart, anyone else who was about to get caught for raw-dogging a porn star (and cheating on his wife) just before a national election and just after "just grab em by the pussy," would've done the same. this is a selling point for partisans.

CosmicCowboy
05-10-2024, 07:42 PM
have a heart, anyone else who was about to get caught for raw-dogging a porn star (and cheating on his wife) just before a national election and just after "just grab em by the pussy," would've done the same. this is a selling point for partisans.

You might want to check your time frame.

clambake
05-10-2024, 08:22 PM
You might want to check your time frame.

It’s ok cowboy. You can vote for him.

Not a real struggle for you.

Winehole23
05-10-2024, 09:05 PM
You might want to check your time frame.how so?

CosmicCowboy
05-10-2024, 09:07 PM
Well, the alleged tryst with stormy was when Melania was pg with Baron so it would have been approximately 18 years ago.

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05-10-2024, 09:28 PM
have a heart, anyone else who was about to get caught for raw-dogging a porn star (and cheating on his wife) just before a national election and just after "just grab em by the pussy," would've done the same. this is a selling point for partisans.

Perhaps he & Mel had an agreement, a deal. She got the boodle and the boy, he got strange wool with nary hassle.

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05-10-2024, 09:29 PM
It’s ok cowboy. You can vote for him.

Not a real struggle for you.

...nor me. Motherfucker? You couldn't drag me away.

Ef-man
05-11-2024, 01:24 AM
Well, the alleged tryst with stormy was when Melania was pg with Baron so it would have been approximately 18 years ago.

As Colangelo said, “The defendant, Donald Trump, orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election. Then he covered up that criminal conspiracy by lying in his New York business records over and over and over again.” 34 felony counts worth.

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05-11-2024, 04:32 AM
As Colangelo said, “The defendant, Donald Trump, orchestrated a criminal scheme to corrupt the 2016 presidential election. Then he covered up that criminal conspiracy by lying in his New York business records over and over and over again.” 34 felony counts worth.

I'll boil it down. That old man made like Norton and set Hillary's top rung on that curb..."Now, say goodnight."

"How's that for wet work, huh?"

Winehole23
05-11-2024, 08:16 AM
Well, the alleged tryst with stormy was when Melania was pg with Baron so it would have been approximately 18 years ago.That doesn't contradict anything I said. After the grab em by the pussy remark came out in 2016, reporters were sniffing around Stormy Daniels and former Playboy bunny, what's her name. Fall of 2016 was when the stories were most likely to come out, and also when they would have been most damaging to Trump. Team Trump and David Pecker made sure the lid on the stories was secure on both stories-- just before the election.

For all your whining about Trump getting caught, I guess you think it's no big deal for candidates to pay off people to keep voters in the dark and call the expense "legal services."

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05-11-2024, 09:04 AM
That doesn't contradict anything I said. After the grab em by the pussy remark came out in 2016, reporters were sniffing around Stormy Daniels and former Playboy bunny, what's her name. Fall of 2016 was when the stories were most likely to come out, and also when they would have been most damaging to Trump. Team Trump and David Pecker made sure the lid on the stories was secure on both stories-- just before the election.

For all your whining about Trump getting caught, I guess you think it's no big deal for candidates to pay off people to keep voters in the dark and call the expense "legal services."

We learned that tact from you.

pgardn
05-11-2024, 09:29 AM
That doesn't contradict anything I said. After the grab em by the pussy remark came out in 2016, reporters were sniffing around Stormy Daniels and former Playboy bunny, what's her name. Fall of 2016 was when the stories were most likely to come out, and also when they would have been most damaging to Trump. Team Trump and David Pecker made sure the lid on the stories was secure on both stories-- just before the election.

For all your whining about Trump getting caught, I guess you think it's no big deal for candidates to pay off people to keep voters in the dark and call the expense "legal services."

And THIS is the part the jury really needs to pay close attention to imo. The motive is clear. Now prove what you wrote above by showing the ledgers. This is the nitty gritty facts of what was done that was part of the cover up of the embarrassing fk session that Trump and his campaign wanted buried.

If you look at it NOW Trump could say, “I can catknap my neighbor’s feline, tie it with a rope around the neck and drive it behind my limo while waving at my fans and not lose a vote. And he would be correct, NOW. Red team loves to play with chronology just like with Covid. Completely forget WHEN events took place. This is also why the coverup is important and the timing as Trump legit thought it would be best to pay to keep this from voters at THAT TIME.

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05-11-2024, 09:33 AM
And THIS is the part the jury really needs to pay close attention to imo. The motive is clear. Now prove what you wrote above by showing the ledgers. This is the nitty gritty facts of what was done that was part of the cover up of the embarrassing fk session that Trump and his campaign wanted buried.

If you look at it NOW Trump could say, “I can catknap my neighbor’s feline, tie it with a rope around the neck and drive it behind my limo while waving at my fans and not lose a vote. And he would be correct, NOW. Red team loves to play with chronology just like with Covid. Completely forget WHEN events took place. This is also why the coverup is important and the timing as Trump legit thought it would be best to pay to keep this from voters at THAT TIME.


We learned that tact from you.

Winehole23
05-11-2024, 11:57 AM
And THIS is the part the jury really needs to pay close attention to imo. The motive is clear. Now prove what you wrote above by showing the ledgers. This is the nitty gritty facts of what was done that was part of the cover up of the embarrassing fk session that Trump and his campaign wanted buried.

If you look at it NOW Trump could say, “I can catknap my neighbor’s feline, tie it with a rope around the neck and drive it behind my limo while waving at my fans and not lose a vote. And he would be correct, NOW. Red team loves to play with chronology just like with Covid. Completely forget WHEN events took place. This is also why the coverup is important and the timing as Trump legit thought it would be best to pay to keep this from voters at THAT TIME.Trump paid National Enquirer to capture and kill two stories in 2016. David Pecker was glad to do it and characterized doing so as support for Trump's campaign in open court.

Dennison got a NSA, and subsequently his fixer Michael Cohen gave his boss phony bills for legal services to cover it up.

Apparently this big nasty ball of unethical stuff doesn't reach the threshold of criminality for Trumplandia, so it doesn't matter it got covered up as if it were the big deal it was to Trump at the time.

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05-11-2024, 12:31 PM
Trump paid National Enquirer to capture and kill two stories in 2016. David Pecker was glad to do it and characterized doing so as support for Trump's campaign in open court.

Dennison got a NSA, and subsequently his fixer Michael Cohen gave his boss phony bills for legal services to cover it up.

Apparently this big nasty ball of unethical stuff doesn't reach the threshold of criminality for Trumplandia, so it doesn't matter it got covered up as if it were the big deal it was to Trump at the time.

...and thank Christ for that, Winester.

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2024, 02:41 PM
Can anyone explain how a state court has jurisdiction over federal election interference? It not like he was running for New York Governor.

clambake
05-11-2024, 02:44 PM
Workin hard on the rationalizing

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2024, 02:45 PM
Workin hard on the rationalizing

Simple question. Too hard to answer honestly?

clambake
05-11-2024, 02:56 PM
Simple question. Too hard to answer honestly?

Maybe it’s because he committed the crime in ny.

Oh, I just said crime. Probably a little insensitive thing to say, considering certain folks here.

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05-11-2024, 03:17 PM
Can anyone explain how a state court has jurisdiction over federal election interference? It not like he was running for New York Governor.

He made President. That's all it took.

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05-11-2024, 03:17 PM
Maybe it’s because he committed the crime in ny.

Oh, I just said crime. Probably a little insensitive thing to say, considering certain folks here.

No apology necessary. He made President.

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05-11-2024, 03:21 PM
Simple question. Too hard to answer honestly?

He ain't answer a query in a coon's age.

pgardn
05-11-2024, 03:51 PM
Can anyone explain how a state court has jurisdiction over federal election interference? It not like he was running for New York Governor.

It does not.

What makes you think it does?
Election interference will be next and in Georgia and other states the people of those States had a president try to change a state election vote for a federal office. That is election interference.

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05-11-2024, 03:56 PM
It does not.

What makes you think it does?
Election interference will be next and in Georgia and other states the people of those States had a president try to change a state election vote for a federal office. That is election interference.

& the dance starts.

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2024, 03:57 PM
It does not.

What makes you think it does?
Election interference will be next and in Georgia and other states the people of those States had a president try to change a state election vote for a federal office. That is election interference.

Then the whole upgrading misdemeanors to felonies because it was in commission of a felony is bullshit since he has never been convicted of federal election interference. Plus we aren't talking about Georgia we are talking about New York which sure as hell didn't vote for Trump.

pgardn
05-11-2024, 04:00 PM
Then the whole upgrading misdemeanors to felonies because it was in commission of a felony is bullshitw since he has never been convicted of federal election interference.

because what?

Thats not why it rises to a felony.
Try again.
Trump did not interfere with electors and such like he did in other States.
And you don’t believe at this point that Trump did this because it has not gone to court.
Right? You personally don’t believe this.

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2024, 04:02 PM
So why do you think the misdemeanors become felonies?

pgardn
05-11-2024, 04:08 PM
So why do you think the misdemeanors become felonies?

Because he misled people and changed records along with that.
And this is the main point. If you changed your business records in NY to willfully misled people in some endeavor does it rise to the level of a felony. Depends how important the misleading was according to the prosecution. Trump did not try to change electors and then pay them in this one. He had no election results to change.

pgardn
05-11-2024, 04:15 PM
This is so ridiculous.

we have all these Republicans that remember the denials of Bill Clinton concerning sexual misconduct and where sure he was guilty just like I was, and now they have a pathological liar, and buy the notion that Trump did not even have sex with stormy Daniels. This is quite amusing.

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05-11-2024, 04:15 PM
So why do you think the misdemeanors become felonies?

Because he'd made President.

pgardn
05-11-2024, 04:18 PM
^^^^^^^^

Meme of an old man trying to break into a facility housing retired whores but slipping on his colostomy bag?

ChumpDumper
05-11-2024, 04:18 PM
Can anyone explain how a state court has jurisdiction over federal election interference?It doesn't.

If you don't know what the charges are at this point, I don't know what to tell you other than they have been available for your perusal for quite some time.

ChumpDumper
05-11-2024, 04:20 PM
Then the whole upgrading misdemeanors to felonies because it was in commission of a felony is bullshit since he has never been convicted of federal election interference. Plus we aren't talking about Georgia we are talking about New York which sure as hell didn't vote for Trump.You don't understand the law he broke.

Since it's been this long I have to conclude you refuse to even try to understand the law he broke.

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05-11-2024, 04:27 PM
You don't understand the law he broke.

Since it's been this long I have to conclude you refuse to even try to understand the law he broke.


...he made President, that was the law. That was Hillary's 8 years after Black man from town robbed her of it to begin with.

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05-11-2024, 04:27 PM
^^^^^^^^

Meme of an old man trying to break into a facility housing retired whores but slipping on his colostomy bag?

If it ain't 'broke don't fix it.

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2024, 04:32 PM
This is so ridiculous.

we have all these Republicans that remember the denials of Bill Clinton concerning sexual misconduct and where sure he was guilty just like I was, and now they have a pathological liar, and buy the notion that Trump did not even have sex with stormy Daniels. This is quite amusing.

I never said he didn't bang the porn star 18 years ago. He probably did. He also hid the payments under legal fees. Guilty of the misdemeanors as charged. Upgrades to felonies? Again a state court doesn't have jurisdiction over federal election interference and last time I checked a person is assumed innocent until proven guilty (in a federal court on federal election interference). Bragg is clearly over reaching.

CosmicCowboy
05-11-2024, 04:33 PM
You don't understand the law he broke.

Since it's been this long I have to conclude you refuse to even try to understand the law he broke.

I apparently understand it better than you do.

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05-11-2024, 04:54 PM
I apparently understand it better than you do.

Now you've done it. Dumper won't shit right for a week.

Ef-man
05-11-2024, 06:55 PM
You don't understand the law he broke.

Since it's been this long I have to conclude you refuse to even try to understand the law he broke.

He is just playing ignorant so he can vote for Yam Tits under the guise, it was a witch hunt, he did nuffin.

Cause really, just like murder and manslaughter (first, second, third degree), what does it matter, some one is dead. They were mortal and going to die anyway. What’s the big deal?

pgardn
05-11-2024, 07:01 PM
I never said he didn't bang the porn star 18 years ago. He probably did. He also hid the payments under legal fees. Guilty of the misdemeanors as charged. Upgrades to felonies? Again a state court doesn't have jurisdiction over federal election interference and last time I checked a person is assumed innocent until proven guilty (in a federal court on federal election interference). Bragg is clearly over reaching.

I never said you did. Your new party run by Trump has made the claim. I dont know where you stand. But I know where your party does.

There was no federal election held to interfere with when this all went down.
The prosecution will claim that Trump attempted to defraud ny citizens by violating NY election laws that states running for ANY PUBLIC office.
Does this rise to the level of a felony. We will see. The prosecution must prove a misdemeanor of falsifying business records before it can rise to the level of fraud first.
This then has been take to mean that NY voters were affected by a public election Im reading. Why did Donald flee NY. I dont know.


Again. This is not like the Georgia case in which Trump is accused of trying to "secure" electors (and many other charges) AFTER the 2020 election had been declared official.
And the legal eagles seem to claim the NY case is tougher on the prosecution.
I guess the old States rights thing is not on your menu. Which would make you more of a federal guy.
CC! Welcome to the Democratic Party!

edit: there is an actual NY law "number" You can look it up and read the exact words. I am not a lawyer. I read. Usually more than one source.

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05-12-2024, 07:15 AM
Mornin'.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2024, 01:07 PM
I apparently understand it better than you do.

:lmao no

There would be no charges brought if you were right and the law as you understand it was being applied.

You're wrong. The proof is the trial that is currently being held.

It's OK to be ignorant and wrong. Just don't be a dick about it and insist we accept your straw man.

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05-12-2024, 02:06 PM
:lmao no

There would be no charges brought if you were right and the law as you understand it was being applied.

You're wrong. The proof is the trial that is currently being held.

It's OK to be ignorant and wrong. Just don't be a dick about it and insist we accept your straw man.

There was gonna be "charges brought" the moment he made President, then got sworn. He's just damn lucky he wasn't murdered, or, at least not yet.

It ain't over. Not by a jugful it ain't.

Spurs Homer
05-12-2024, 02:46 PM
So why do you think the misdemeanors become felonies?


because that is how some state and/or federal statutes are written…

if you are caught breaking the law- you are charged with a crime- however - if you break that law while in the commission of another crime- that changes the severity and basically bumps you up on the chart -
like from first degree to 2nd degree felony…

or in this case- from a misdeameanor up to a felony

example: you shoot and kill someone = murder
but

you shot this person while robbing a store = capital murder

or you shoot a cop = capital murder
whereas shooting a civilian = murder

clambake
05-12-2024, 02:50 PM
because that is how some state and/or federal statutes are written…

if you are caught breaking the law- you are charged with a crime- however - if you break that law while in the commission of another crime- that changes the severity and basically bumps you up on the chart -
like from first degree to 2nd degree felony…

or in this case- from a misdeameanor up to a felony

example: you shoot and kill someone = murder
but

you shot this person while robbing a store = capital murder

or you shoot a cop = capital murder
whereas shooting a civilian = murder

Don’t go to so much trouble. Cowboy is in his rationalization vortex.

Spurs Homer
05-12-2024, 02:54 PM
Don’t go to so much trouble. Cowboy is in his rationalization vortex.

yeah

nine years in and he has witnessed crime after crime after rape, after fraud, after lies, after coup, after treason,


and he is now ….”well…im not really understanding…why my cult leader is being mistreated like this…”

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05-12-2024, 04:02 PM
yeah

nine years in and he has witnessed crime after crime after rape, after fraud, after lies, after coup, after treason,


and he is now ….”well…im not really understanding…why my cult leader is being mistreated like this…”

He made President. That's why we're here today, Homer.

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2024, 06:07 PM
yeah

nine years in and he has witnessed crime after crime after rape, after fraud, after lies, after coup, after treason,


and he is now ….”well…im not really understanding…why my cult leader is being mistreated like this…”

I am talking about one specific case and simply repeating what actual legal analysts on Bloomberg have said.

He's not my cult leader but apparently your cult doesn't understand how the law works. Even if Bragg gets a guilty felony verdict it will likely be overturned on appellate review.

Spurs Homer
05-12-2024, 06:42 PM
I am talking about one specific case and simply repeating what actual legal analysts on Bloomberg have said.

He's not my cult leader but apparently your cult doesn't understand how the law works. Even if Bragg gets a guilty felony verdict it will likely be overturned on appellate review.

Nothing is being overturned - the case is solid - and anyone can cherry pick "experts" who will say what their audience wants to hear...

Im old enough to remember when trump was indicted on this case and the "experts" all went on Fox channel and other rt wing media and said this was going to be thrown out, this was all just democrats, this guy ran for office to get trump, the porn star salacious blah blah blah, this is russia-russia again...

will never ever make it to trial...


and here we are -

and you still believe what you want to believe and then conveniently insert the facts where they fit into your belief..

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05-12-2024, 06:57 PM
Nothing is being overturned - the case is solid - and anyone can cherry pick "experts" who will say what their audience wants to hear...

Im old enough to remember when trump was indicted on this case and the "experts" all went on Fox channel and other rt wing media and said this was going to be thrown out, this was all just democrats, this guy ran for office to get trump, the porn star salacious blah blah blah, this is russia-russia again...

will never ever make it to trial...


and here we are -

and you still believe what you want to believe and then conveniently insert the facts where they fit into your belief..

You're after him because he made President. That's it & that's all.

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05-12-2024, 06:58 PM
I am talking about one specific case and simply repeating what actual legal analysts on Bloomberg have said.

He's not my cult leader but apparently your cult doesn't understand how the law works. Even if Bragg gets a guilty felony verdict it will likely be overturned on appellate review.

The (law) has nothing to do with this. This is high tech lynching plain & clear.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2024, 07:29 PM
I am talking about one specific case and simply repeating what actual legal analysts on Bloomberg have said.
Link?

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2024, 07:33 PM
Link?

I listen to Bloomberg business on SiriusXM. Hard to link. Every day at 5 is law experts on various subjects. I'm sure you could find similar analysis if you were really interested in the subject.

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05-12-2024, 07:40 PM
I listen to Bloomberg business on SiriusXM. Hard to link. Every day at 5 is law experts on various subjects. I'm sure you could find similar analysis if you were really interested in the subject.

He's only interested in trolling.

clambake
05-12-2024, 07:49 PM
Siriusbloomberg is the real deal. I’m sporting my red cap, sliding into my golden slippers and goin down there!

ChumpDumper
05-12-2024, 07:57 PM
I listen to Bloomberg business on SiriusXM. Hard to link. Every day at 5 is law experts on various subjects. I'm sure you could find similar analysis if you were really interested in the subject.
Convenient.

Winehole23
05-12-2024, 08:11 PM
"I heard actual legal experts say something on a podcast. I don't know actually who said it, and I can't repeat exactly what they said, but you're obviously a dummy for not agreeing with me."

clambake
05-12-2024, 08:11 PM
Convenient.

You don’t get it, as usual. They are talking about it on the radio.

If they go to the courthouse, no audience, or relevance.

Winehole23
05-12-2024, 08:27 PM
It's been widely remarked that DA Bragg's theory of the case -- and application of the law -- is unusual. His prosecution of Trump might fail, or not.

CC declaring in advance what will or should happen is pure wishcasting -- nobody knows what will happen, even XM radio legal experts.

clambake
05-12-2024, 08:30 PM
He’ll walk.

Winehole23
05-12-2024, 08:32 PM
He’ll walk.If I was a betting man, that'd be my guess, too.

CosmicCowboy
05-12-2024, 08:39 PM
It's been widely remarked that DA Bragg's theory of the case -- and application of the law -- is unusual. His prosecution of Trump might fail, or not.

CC declaring in advance what will or should happen is pure wishcasting -- nobody knows what will happen, even XM radio legal experts.

You are the one wish casting. I'm saying it is not a slam dunk like you and your crew say.

Winehole23
05-12-2024, 08:45 PM
"Any power that would seek to hold Trump responsible for his own actions is ipso facto illegitimate."

Winehole23
05-12-2024, 08:45 PM
You are the one wish casting. I'm saying it is not a slam dunk like you and your crew say.I don't recall anyone saying it was a slam dunk, are you ventriloquizing again?

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05-12-2024, 08:50 PM
He’ll walk.

And then "you'll" threaten to bomb him, or, cut his head off, or, shoot him to death AGAIN.

You'er all as nutty as a fruit cake.

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05-12-2024, 08:52 PM
"Any power that would seek to hold Trump responsible for his own actions is ipso facto illegitimate and to be eliminated with extreme prejudice."

Thank you & amen. You're a lynch mob, Winester, and have been since he won that election. You all went stark raving mad. Ya fuckin' nuts, ya.

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05-12-2024, 08:53 PM
Siriusbloomberg is the real deal. I’m sporting my red cap, sliding into my golden slippers and goin down there!

And if it supported you-you'd be happier than a pig in shit, clammy.

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05-12-2024, 08:54 PM
You don’t get it, as usual. They are talking about it on the radio.

If they go to the courthouse, no audience, or relevance.

And thank Christ they kept the cameras out of there. I'm still amazed at that ruling. Glory B!!!

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05-12-2024, 08:55 PM
If I was a betting man, that'd be my guess, too.

Get the guillotine ready if that's the case, the TnT as well, plus get General Milly up and at 'em.

Ya bunch a crackpots.

ChumpDumper
05-12-2024, 08:59 PM
He’ll walk.

Probably. Hung jury or some instant appeal based on nothing but being rich and formerly powerful.

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05-12-2024, 09:05 PM
Probably. Hung jury or some instant appeal based on nothing but being rich and formerly powerful.

Of course he'd appeal it...you just want him to roll over, and accept such a verdict. No. Absolutely not. You lynched him, like in "Hang 'Em High."

clambake
05-12-2024, 09:05 PM
Probably. Hung jury or some instant appeal based on nothing but being rich and formerly powerful.

Cowboy says wish casting. Same show since 2006. He used to be a proud republican.

Blake
05-12-2024, 09:10 PM
Convenient.

:lol couldn't be any more predictable

pgardn
05-12-2024, 09:19 PM
From what I have read asking for a felony is going to be more difficult.
The much easier case is Georgia which has been put on hold because of prosecutors fooling with each other which I find amusing as Trump thinks only he can grab any vagina or penis.

Trump has been involved is so many frggn legal nightmares because of pure bullheaded stupidity it’s amazing.
But when you become president you get a very wide birth so he’s got that going for him. The idiot just adores trouble and attention and so do about 1/3 of the voting public which is more than sad.

Then you got Aileen Cannon just giving in to Trump on the documents case. When you own the judges this happens. Getting more banana republic with this group of red team members.

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05-12-2024, 09:31 PM
From what I have read asking for a felony is going to be more difficult.
The much easier case is Georgia which has been put on hold because of prosecutors fooling with each other which I find amusing as Trump thinks only he can grab any vagina or penis.

Trump has been involved is so many frggn legal nightmares because of pure bullheaded stupidity it’s amazing.
But when you become president you get a very wide birth so he’s got that going for him. The idiot just adores trouble and attention and so do about 1/3 of the voting public which is more than sad.

Then you got Aileen Cannon just giving in to Trump on the documents case. When you own the judges this happens. Getting more banana republic with this group of red team members.

...& because you tried to murder him alone and/or his family a half dozen times after he'd made President, ya dope, you.

MultiTroll
05-12-2024, 10:10 PM
Then you got Aileen Cannon just giving in to Trump on the documents case. When you own the judges this happens. Getting more banana republic with this group of red team members.
Getting? It's there. Democracy is long gone.

Supreme Court entertaining whether or not a pReZidenT has total immunity. :lol

I'd guestimate 95% of Congress and House is compromised.

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05-12-2024, 10:16 PM
Getting? It's there. Democracy is long gone.

Supreme Court entertaining whether or not a pReZidenT has total immunity. :lol

I'd guestimate 95% of Congress and House is compromised.

Absolutely. And all it took was an outsider to make President. That was it, Ft. Pitt.

CosmicCowboy
05-13-2024, 07:04 AM
So we are all agreeing he will probably get convicted of a few misdemeanors on business records but the felonies are probably a stretch too far?

Winehole23
05-13-2024, 07:44 AM
"no biggie, just some misdemeanor convictions for phony business records"

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05-13-2024, 07:49 AM
So we are all agreeing he will probably get convicted of a few misdemeanors on business records but the felonies are probably a stretch too far?

Anything is possible. He's a marked man and has been for almost 10 years now. And they ain't fuckin' around. They ain't forgettin' nor forgiven that he made President of the United States in the broad daylight.

Ef-man
05-13-2024, 11:57 AM
Caring only about the campaign and not about wife will weigh in on jury's decision.

Yam Tits only caring about himself is not a selling point for defense.

ChumpDumper
05-13-2024, 01:54 PM
So we are all agreeing he will probably get convicted of a few misdemeanors on business records but the felonies are probably a stretch too far?

No. We said several different things. If he's convicted for just misdemeanors, one could really start the jury intimidation conspiracy machine.

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05-13-2024, 02:04 PM
Caring only about the campaign and not about wife will weigh in on jury's decision.

Yam Tits only caring about himself is not a selling point for defense.
:lmao:lmao:lmao

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05-13-2024, 02:05 PM
No. We said several different things. If he's convicted for just misdemeanors, one could really start the jury intimidation conspiracy machine.

You mean yet another indictment, Dumps?

MultiTroll
06-03-2024, 11:49 AM
Stormy Daniels offers word of advice to Melania Trump after hush money trial verdict (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/stormy-daniels-offers-word-of-advice-to-melania-trump-after-hush-money-trial-verdict/ar-BB1nwXBG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=108cf7956c5540bb8105c30cd014c388&ei=20)

“I don’t know what their agreement may or may not be, but Melania needs to leave him,” Ms Daniels told The Sunday Mirror.
“Not because of what he did with me or other women but because he is a convicted felon.
“It’s been proven he is abusive; he was found liable for sexual assault and tax fraud and is now a criminal. He’s neither Teflon Don nor Teflon Con anymore.”

In the same interview, Ms Daniels suggested (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-jail-punch-bag-b2555239.html) Mr Trump “should be sentenced to jail and some community service working for the less fortunate, or being the volunteer punching bag at a women’s shelter” following his criminal conviction.

Stormy

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06-03-2024, 11:53 AM
Stormy Daniels offers word of advice to Melania Trump after hush money trial verdict (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/stormy-daniels-offers-word-of-advice-to-melania-trump-after-hush-money-trial-verdict/ar-BB1nwXBG?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=108cf7956c5540bb8105c30cd014c388&ei=20)

“I don’t know what their agreement may or may not be, but Melania needs to leave him,” Ms Daniels told The Sunday Mirror.
“Not because of what he did with me or other women but because he is a convicted felon.
“It’s been proven he is abusive; he was found liable for sexual assault and tax fraud and is now a criminal. He’s neither Teflon Don nor Teflon Con anymore.”

In the same interview, Ms Daniels suggested (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/stormy-daniels-donald-trump-jail-punch-bag-b2555239.html) Mr Trump “should be sentenced to jail and some community service working for the less fortunate, or being the volunteer punching bag at a women’s shelter” following his criminal conviction.

Stormy

I hope she dies of breast cancer, or, any cancer for that matter.

clambake
06-03-2024, 12:21 PM
Lol

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06-03-2024, 12:24 PM
Lol

clammy!!! Sweetheart!!!!!! Pumpkinpuss!!!!!!!!!

Returning to the fore several days ahead of the Finals.

I'm nonplussed.

ChumpDumper
06-03-2024, 12:28 PM
lol that loser criminal Trump committed felonies for this woman.

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06-03-2024, 12:31 PM
lol that loser criminal Trump committed felonies for this woman.

Pussy is pussy, Dumper. That's why God set us here.

Ef-man
06-03-2024, 01:59 PM
lol that loser criminal Trump committed felonies for this woman.

Don’t forget that he is still on hook for $454M plus interest for tax fraud. :lol

This recurring fraud thing follows Yam Tits like the shit in his husky boy Depends.

MultiTroll
06-03-2024, 02:06 PM
On the tube today.

The Case of the Perjured Parrot

"Perry is faced with the unusual task of having to cross examine a parrot."

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06-03-2024, 02:22 PM
Don’t forget that he is still on hook for $454M plus interest for tax fraud. :lol

This recurring fraud thing follows Yam Tits like the shit in his husky boy Depends.

That's only because he made President. Would he take (it) back if he COULD?

(They'll) never ask him that question. No way. Too scared of the answer.

tee, hee.

Brazil
06-03-2024, 02:24 PM
I hope she dies of breast cancer, or, any cancer for that matter.

that's the definition of rock bottom, you should be ashamed tbh.. too bad COVID did not take your ass... but no here you are, still polluting the air of everybody. Social media has given a voice to imbecile like you, I regret the good ol' times where we were listening to your constant stupidity in the bars, as Ecco would say we are in the middle of an invasion of the imbeciles

clambake
06-03-2024, 02:29 PM
that's the definition of rock bottom, you should be ashamed tbh.. too bad COVID did not take your ass... but no here you are, still polluting the air of everybody. Social media has given a voice to imbecile like you, I regret the good ol' times where we were listening to your constant stupidity in the bars, as Ecco would say we are in the middle of an invasion of the imbeciles:lmao:clap

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06-03-2024, 02:30 PM
On the tube today.

The Case of the Perjured Parrot

"Perry is faced with the unusual task of having to cross examine a parrot."

At least I showed, Mult. Nobody else has cept for UNT...and he rolled over upon arrival.

I cannot believe (hater) ran like the dickens.

Just have to hope & pray it don't get worse. What would (worse) even look like? I'll tell ya! Judging his Presidency as (never happened) (off the books, and annals). And could very well happen,,,there is nary hurry. He'll slow walk the rest of the trials, and in meantime somebody is gonna either quit, die, or roll over in that SC. And then it'd be Katie bar the door.

In the short term, he's got to hang solid on this (jail) vow. Saying it like he did the other day and then actually doing it is an entirely different situation.

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06-03-2024, 02:32 PM
that's the definition of rock bottom, you should be ashamed tbh.. too bad COVID did not take your ass... but no here you are, still polluting the air of everybody. Social media has given a voice to imbecile like you, I regret the good ol' times where we were listening to your constant stupidity in the bars, as Ecco would say we are in the middle of an invasion of the imbeciles

You started it, Bra. You repudiated his Presidency, tried to assassinate him multiple times, his family too, beat him, then tried to put your Presidency like the old days.

Uh, uh. Never, son.

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06-03-2024, 02:33 PM
:lmao:clap

You damn ass smootcher, you!

ChumpDumper
06-03-2024, 02:34 PM
lol meltdown

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06-03-2024, 02:35 PM
lol meltdown

Absolutely, Dumper. I don't my shit, ever. It's my religion.

Brazil
06-03-2024, 02:37 PM
You started it, Bra. You repudiated his Presidency, tried to assassinate him multiple times, his family too, beat him, then tried to put your Presidency like the old days.

Uh, uh. Never, son.

so you wish the death of a victim.. ? you disgust me you big senile piece of shit.

Ef-man
06-03-2024, 02:44 PM
lol meltdown

Meltdown after a woodshed tanning of a gimp's ass, priceless :lol

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06-03-2024, 02:45 PM
so you wish the death of a victim.. ? you disgust me you big senile piece of shit.

Yes, what's good for the goose...(You all wishing death on Trump) is sauce for the gander...(Me wishing death upon...I can't say it, they might run me off, or, be at the front door first thing in the morning..."Dale!" -the wife)...tee, hee

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06-03-2024, 02:53 PM
Meltdown after a woodshed tanning of a gimp's ass, priceless :lol

Absolutely. I never hide my shit, Effy. Ever. It's my religion.

benefactor
06-03-2024, 02:59 PM
so you wish the death of a victim.. ? you disgust me you big senile piece of shit.
We need Boomer concentration camps tbh

ChumpDumper
06-03-2024, 03:00 PM
We need Boomer concentration camps tbhPretty much. All they do is bitch about the things they ruined. They want concentration camps, let's give them what they want.

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06-03-2024, 03:09 PM
We need Boomer concentration camps tbh

Hows that pretty little wife of yours doin', fart-face.

Don't lose her, bene. I can't imagine you striking gold not once, but twice...

...as "John Coffey" administers in -The Green Mile-..."Careful."

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06-03-2024, 03:10 PM
Pretty much. All they do is bitch about the things they ruined. They want concentration camps, let's give them what they want.

Well, you broke that one guy for having a differing opinion on that school massacre back East. I can see ya's gettin' around to cc's with nary problem, Dumper. Nary.

Brazil
06-04-2024, 05:59 AM
Yes, what's good for the goose...(You all wishing death on Trump) is sauce for the gander...(Me wishing death upon...I can't say it, they might run me off, or, be at the front door first thing in the morning..."Dale!" -the wife)...tee, hee

not sure why you are still tolerated around here

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06-04-2024, 10:55 AM
not sure why you are still tolerated around here

Has me stumped no end as well, Bra.

That you'd prefer it be just 1 way around the same here has always been a puzzler to me, wherever I've lit. But at least "you're" consistent, batting like 1.000, well 9.999 thanks to (here).

Winehole23
01-10-2025, 09:01 AM
Politicians paying newspapers to catch and kill unfavorable stories is nbd, right?


First thing that caught my attention was something that had nothing to do with Trump. Rather it was Pecker’s discussion of Arnold Schwarzenegger (https://www.politico.com/live-updates/2024/04/25/trump-hush-money-criminal-trial/arnold-schwarzenegger-story-time-00154322). The prosecutor asked Pecker whether he had any qualms about getting involved in politics around the 2016 election and he said he did based on his experiences in 2003 around Schwarzenegger’s run to be California’s governor.

Pecker’s testimony described how when AMI was going to purchase some fitness magazines, Pecker was told by the owner of the magazines, Joe Weider, that Pecker had to talk to Schwarzenegger first. Schwarzenegger apparently asked Pecker to be an editor-at-large of the fitness magazines and for AMI to stop running negative stories about Schwarzenegger because he was about to run for governor. Pecker said he agreed to this arrangement so that AMI could ink the deal. Shortly afterward, Schwarzenegger announced that he was running for governor on “The Tonight Show with Jay Leno,” and then AMI was inundated with calls from women with stories complaining about Schwarzenegger’s treatment. Pecker said he honored the agreement to not publish negative stories about Schwarzenegger and that he bought stories from women complaining about Schwarzenegger. Pecker had no plans to publish these women’s stories.

The prosecutor asked (https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/4-25-2024/00030.html): “Did you come to appreciate the legalities surrounding such an arrangement with a political candidate?”

And then Pecker responded (https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/4-25-2024/00030.html): “Yes. That was the first time I ever came across a political violation a political contribution, what a violation was.” At which point a lawyer for Trump objected to the use of the word “violation.”

What Pecker was describing with respect to AMI’s catch and kill efforts (https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/just-an-agreement-among-friends-ex-national-enquirer-publisher-david-pecker-testifies-trump-disavowed-buying-negative-stories-highlights-michael-cohens-involvement/) on behalf of candidate Schwarzenegger during the recall (https://www.fppc.ca.gov/content/dam/fppc/NS-Documents/TAD/Campaign%20Documents/Recall_Elections.pdf) of Gov. Gray Davis was a likely a violation of California’s campaign finance laws at the time, which required transparency and compliance with contribution limits under Proposition 34 which set the max at $21,200 (https://niemanreports.org/articles/tracking-money-in-the-california-recall-election/) per donor per candidate.

Pecker wasn’t clear in his testimony how much he had spent on catching and killing negative stories about Schwarzenegger. But if it was more than $21,200, that’s one way California law (https://lao.ca.gov/ballot/2000/34_11_2000.html) could have been violated. And because it was secret, that’s another potential campaign finance violation under California law. The statute of limitations has long since run in California for those would-be crimes.

Then Pecker testified about his role in catch and kill for the Trump 2016 campaign. With respect to Karen McDougal (https://lawandcrime.com/tag/karen-mcdougal/), AMI paid her $150,000 and then never intended to run her story. Back in 2021, AMI settled a complaint (https://www.businessinsider.com/national-enquirer-parent-fec-fine-campaign-finance-violations-2021-6) at the FEC that this $150,000 payment was an illegal contribution to the Trump campaign in the 2016 election for a $187,500 fine. In the FEC settlement AMI acknowledged that it broke campaign finance laws in 2016. AMI also entered into a non-prosecution agreement with the DOJ in 2018, which is one reason Pecker can be so forthcoming.

The federal crimes Pecker appears to have acknowledged were more serious than the California ones. California law (https://www.fppc.ca.gov/learn/campaign-rules/state-contribution-limits.html) allows corporations to spend in elections. By contrast, there is still a federal law on the books known as the Tillman Act — now 5 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30118)2 U.S. Code § 30118 (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30118) — which bars corporations from giving contributions directly to a candidate. Thus AMI would not have been able to lawfully give one red cent to the Trump campaign directly.

By giving $150,000 in value in secret to influence the 2016 election, AMI arguably violated the federal law in at least three ways: (1) it was an illegal corporate contribution that violated the Tillman Act; (2) it was an illegal contribution because it was bigger than what an individual person could lawfully give a federal candidate (https://www.fec.gov/updates/contribution-limits-for-2015-2016/); and (3) it wasn’t properly disclosed (https://www.fec.gov/help-candidates-and-committees/keeping-records/recording-receipts/) as a campaign contribution by either AMI or the Trump campaign.

There’s even a fourth potential crime because the payment was done through shell corporations including Michael Cohen’s Resolution Consultants LLC (https://attorneygeneral.delaware.gov/wp-content/uploads/sites/50/2019/09/Cohen-Complaint.pdf), such that the transaction violated the federal ban (https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30122) on giving contribution in the name of another (aka an illegal straw donor). Pecker admitted in his testimony that he knew it was unlawful (https://pdfs.nycourts.gov/PeopleVs.DTrump-71543/transcripts/4-25-2024/00048.html) for a corporation to coordinate with federal candidate.
https://lawandcrime.com/opinion/opinion-the-many-campaign-finance-violations-divulged-in-trumps-new-york-criminal-trial/

Winehole23
01-10-2025, 09:55 AM
Dems didn't to this to Donald Trump, Donald Trump and a jury of twelve people did


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:b6gfddlkp6t4qsqqjalvnj3v/bafkreihs5b7djot5zijeffhv3aamfzlw5fgffei5klpyeulvj oetklv2j4@jpeg

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01-10-2025, 11:44 AM
Dems didn't to this to Donald Trump, Donald Trump and a jury of twelve people did


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:b6gfddlkp6t4qsqqjalvnj3v/bafkreihs5b7djot5zijeffhv3aamfzlw5fgffei5klpyeulvj oetklv2j4@jpeg


And in the backwash he made President and if they don't shoot him again he'll get sworn come the 20th.

Winehole23
01-10-2025, 01:47 PM
he made president, we're in the backwash

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01-10-2025, 02:47 PM
he made president, we're in the backwash

...the lawsuits and court actions will commence the 21st on the button. It will be a boundless tidal wave.