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Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:01 PM
You are praying it's more than just campaign finance law violations because if it is just campaign finance law violations the chances of the FEC ruling before the 2020 elections is basically zero.

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2018/03/29/21639/stormy-daniels-payoff-illegal-contribution-fec-ruling-could-take-yearsThen it probably is something else.

And probably worse.

What are you praying it is, TSA?

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:03 PM
983463965266235392:lol Can't even spellcheck before posting this spin tweet.

Shook.

boutons_deux
04-09-2018, 05:08 PM
Break up the FBI? :lol

The only shittier than Trash are people who take Trash seriously

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:12 PM
:lol Chris just thinks the FBI just goes searching whoever they want whenever they want.

A Trump appointee sought this warrant. The FBI executed the warrant the Trump appointee got.

DisAsTerBot
04-09-2018, 05:14 PM
Lmao Chris desperately searching twitter for someone who can make an argument for him

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:17 PM
Lmao Chris desperately searching twitter for someone who can make an argument for himYeah, it's going to take awhile for them to find a way to spin this in Trump's favor. All Chris and TSA can do is wait for their marching orders. Gotta be frustrating for them.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 05:20 PM
983460231941378048

:lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 05:21 PM
:lol Can't even spellcheck before posting this spin tweet.

Shook.

:lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 05:23 PM
983463965266235392

David Dennison serving poisoned Metamucil?

983456820198100994

Damn. :wow

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:24 PM
Seriously, this had to be a pretty big deal for two direct Trump hires to act on this. We already know Mueller gives no fucks at all, but Rosenstein and Berman don't seem to either.

spurraider21
04-09-2018, 05:25 PM
"My twitter sources" :lmao
"the street" :lmao

RandomGuy
04-09-2018, 05:25 PM
983460774852128769

Because "matters that arise" during the investigation would include campaign law. Being able to have something on which to roll Cohen or those around him would be helpful to a prosecutor, shit for brains.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 05:29 PM
983457873744232450

:rollin :lmao :rollin

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:29 PM
983437983817838593

Chris
04-09-2018, 05:32 PM
Trump calls Mueller probe an attack on our country. Looks like it's on its last legs, my gut told me this was their last gasp.

"It's a disgrace."

clambake
04-09-2018, 05:34 PM
Trump calls Mueller probe an attack on our country. Looks like it's on its last legs, my gut told me this was their last gasp.

"It's a disgrace."

lol an attack on our country lol


now he says that for this?

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:34 PM
Trump calls Mueller probe an attack on our country. Looks like it's on its last legs, my gut told me this was their last gasp.

"It's a disgrace.":lol "my gut sources"

Sounds like it's just getting started tbh.

Mueller didn't ask for this warrant.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 05:36 PM
983450580466257920

:lol

clambake
04-09-2018, 05:37 PM
national meltdown on tv right now.

clambake
04-09-2018, 05:37 PM
oh, and hillary.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:38 PM
983450580466257920

:lolThey thought documents would be destroyed.

ElNono
04-09-2018, 05:38 PM
I want more news of this, tbh... especially if they're going to keep showing big tits Stormy everywhere, tbh...

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:39 PM
I want more news of this, tbh... especially if they're going to keep showing big tits Stormy everywhere, tbh...Don't even know if these raids have to do with Stormy tbh. Being slightly generous keeping it in here.

Chris
04-09-2018, 05:40 PM
Looks like Mueller will be fired soon.

ElNono
04-09-2018, 05:41 PM
That'd be pretty bad for Trump... Separation of powers and all...

boutons_deux
04-09-2018, 05:41 PM
Don't even know if these raids have to do with Stormy tbh. Being slightly generous keeping it in here.

??? Mueller looking into Cohen's claim that he used home equity to pay Stormy $130K and without telling Trash, and wasn't reimbursed by Trash.

Chris
04-09-2018, 05:42 PM
That'd be pretty bad for Trump... Separation of powers and all...

Care to expound on that?

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:43 PM
Looks like Mueller will be fired soon.Why? He didn't ask for today's warrants.

Explain, Chris.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 05:43 PM
??? Mueller looking into Cohen's claim that he used home equity to pay Stormy $130K and without telling Trash, and wasn't reimbursed by Trash.This isn't Mueller's baby.

spurraider21
04-09-2018, 05:44 PM
Looks like Mueller will be fired soon.
well... rosenstein would have to be the one to fire mueller. last time he spoke to congress, he said if ordered to fire mueller, he wouldn't, as there was no good cause. if that were to happen, trump would have to fire rosenstein... and then we'd be on our way to the modern saturday night massacre

vy65
04-09-2018, 05:45 PM
A federal magistrate judge issued the warrant authorizing the search. The USA's office/FBI has its own series of protocols when executing a warrant. A magistrate judge - who is not an Article III judge and who is not appointed for life - is not going to casually authorize this kind of search.

All of that is to say: if DJT fires Mueller because of this raid despite this process being followed, he needs to be removed from office immediately.

Chris
04-09-2018, 05:46 PM
well... rosenstein would have to be the one to fire mueller. last time he spoke to congress, he said if ordered to fire mueller, he wouldn't, as there was no good cause. if that were to happen, trump would have to fire rosenstein... and then we'd be on our way to the modern saturday night massacre

I've got my popcorn ready.

ElNono
04-09-2018, 05:46 PM
Care to expound on that?


A federal magistrate judge issued the warrant authorizing the search. The USA's office/FBI has its own series of protocols when executing a warrant. A magistrate judge - who is not an Article III judge and who is not appointed for life - is not going to casually authorize this kind of search.

All of that is to say: if DJT fires Mueller because of this raid despite this process being followed, he needs to be removed from office immediately.

vy explained it better than I ever could. Thanks.

boutons_deux
04-09-2018, 05:48 PM
Trump lawyer Michael Cohen is being investigated for bank fraud and campaign finance violations

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/04/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-investigated-bank-fraud-campaign-finance-violations-report/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story% 29

The.Bestest.People

ElNono
04-09-2018, 05:49 PM
On a more fundamental side, it's also a breach of check and balances.

Would be pretty hilarious/hypocritical that the guy that ran on 'draining the swamp' wants to shut down oversight when he's the target...

boutons_deux
04-09-2018, 05:51 PM
On a more fundamental side, it's also a breach of check and balances.

Would be pretty hilarious/hypocritical that the guy that ran on 'draining the swamp' wants to shut down oversight when he's the target...

Repugs haven't cared, don't care, because Trash signed the tax cut for the oligarchy and

will sign everything else Repugs pass to him, and

Christians don't care because Trash is anti-LGBT, anti-abortion,

so Trash really can do anything and get away with it.

Reck
04-09-2018, 05:53 PM
She's really going to be the end of Trump. :lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 05:53 PM
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LkrFan
04-09-2018, 05:57 PM
A federal magistrate judge issued the warrant authorizing the search. The USA's office/FBI has its own series of protocols when executing a warrant. A magistrate judge - who is not an Article III judge and who is not appointed for life - is not going to casually authorize this kind of search.

All of that is to say: if DJT fires Mueller because of this raid despite this process being followed, he needs to be removed from office immediately.

:tu

ElNono
04-09-2018, 05:58 PM
Donnie is going to finish his term, IMO... but I don't know if his marital status is going to be 'married' by that time...

You would think Melania has some self-respect...

vy65
04-09-2018, 05:58 PM
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump slammed the FBI raid on his personal attorney Michael Cohen's office and hotel room as a "disgraceful situation" and "an attack on our country."

"I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys. Good man. And it's a disgraceful situation. It's a total witch hunt," Trump said Monday, referring to a lawful FBI raid.
"It's an attack on our country," Trump said. "It's an attack on what we all stand for."
The President again criticized Attorney General Jeff Sessions for recusing himself, saying, "the attorney general made a terrible mistake."



fucking lol

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 06:00 PM
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump slammed the FBI raid on his personal attorney Michael Cohen's office and hotel room as a "disgraceful situation" and "an attack on our country."

"I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys. Good man. And it's a disgraceful situation. It's a total witch hunt," Trump said Monday, referring to a lawful FBI raid.
"It's an attack on our country," Trump said. "It's an attack on what we all stand for."
The President again criticized Attorney General Jeff Sessions for recusing himself, saying, "the attorney general made a terrible mistake."



fucking lolRadio silence from everyone except the only guy who should be shutting the fuck up.

ElNono
04-09-2018, 06:00 PM
Washington (CNN)President Donald Trump slammed the FBI raid on his personal attorney Michael Cohen's office and hotel room as a "disgraceful situation" and "an attack on our country."

"I just heard that they broke into the office of one of my personal attorneys. Good man. And it's a disgraceful situation. It's a total witch hunt," Trump said Monday, referring to a lawful FBI raid.
"It's an attack on our country," Trump said. "It's an attack on what we all stand for."
The President again criticized Attorney General Jeff Sessions for recusing himself, saying, "the attorney general made a terrible mistake."

fucking lol

He's a clown... the biggest issue for him is how much the peeps getting nailed are willing to talk...

On the other hand, President Pence would probably be worse, AND much less entertaining...

ElNono
04-09-2018, 06:01 PM
On the other hand, Donnie can pardon anybody, tbh...

Would likely look real bad, but I think we're past appearances at this point...

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:03 PM
Looks like Mueller will be fired soon.

Hope so. If this happens, David Dennison = f:lolcked (with a metal barb-wired rusty 14-incher) :lmao

vy65
04-09-2018, 06:04 PM
Radio silence from everyone except the only guy who should be shutting the fuck up.

Nah, @Officeofmike and Thomas1774paine have rushed to the president's defense.

boutons_deux
04-09-2018, 06:05 PM
On the other hand, Donnie can pardon anybody, tbh...



not true, there are exceptions for Federal crimes, and he can't pardon state convictions.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 06:05 PM
Nah, @Officeofmike and Thomas1774paine have rushed to the president's defense.Well, everyone with actual real names.

vy65
04-09-2018, 06:05 PM
He's a clown... the biggest issue for him is how much the peeps getting nailed are willing to talk...

On the other hand, President Pence would probably be worse, AND much less entertaining...

I get that logic, and probably agree although I wonder how much of a lame duck President pray the gay away would be

ElNono
04-09-2018, 06:08 PM
I get that logic, and probably agree although I wonder how much of a lame duck President pray the gay away would be

Timing is of essence here.. if past mid-terms GOP still fully controls Congress, he has two years to rubberstamp everything coming from there...

Much less of an issue if Dems control House or Senate...

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 06:09 PM
:lol MSNBC keeps rolling file tape of Cohen's speaking publicly with Trump and Flynn sitting in the background.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:10 PM
983477413530296321

:lol

vy65
04-09-2018, 06:10 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaYGwafW4AAGXZr.jpg

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 06:16 PM
Remember, Trump personally interviewed the guy who sought this warrant before he hired him -- so he must be really, really good. :tu

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:16 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DaYGwafW4AAGXZr.jpg

:lmao

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:17 PM
983479736763633664

:wow

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:19 PM
I've got my popcorn ready.

983481887468466177

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:24 PM
Edit:

983480871276744704

Oh the irony :lol

Chris
04-09-2018, 06:24 PM
983481887468466177

Manafort facing life in prison. :lmao

Mike Flynn case likely to be dismissed FBI didn't think he lied but a Democrat prosecutor decided to press charges :lmao


Cohen raid final nail in coffin for Mueller investigation:lmao

13 Russians on Facebook :lmao:lmao:lmao

Jules Suzdaltsev :lmao

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:26 PM
983480985403711488

:wow

Chris
04-09-2018, 06:27 PM
The Daily Beast :lmao

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 06:30 PM
The Daily Beast :lmaoAre you saying Cohen never said that?

Yes or no, Chris.

baseline bum
04-09-2018, 06:31 PM
983481887468466177

:lmao

Brazil
04-09-2018, 06:37 PM
Not sure what is more laughable tbh... Chris or Trump meltdown ?

I’d say Chris.. dat nervous :lmao are priceless

:lol trump
:lol being fucked by a porn star
:lol red necks
:lol Chris

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:38 PM
983487638337355776

Yep yep

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:38 PM
Are you saying Cohen never said that?

Yes or no, Chris.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 06:41 PM
983487638337355776

Yep yepFunny thing is this isn't actually part of the Mueller investigation. Trump's gonna have to fire the guy he personally interviewed last October and hired in January.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:42 PM
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LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:46 PM
983485194069069825

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:47 PM
983482128007606273

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:49 PM
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:lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 06:53 PM
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SMH

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 06:54 PM
You are praying it's more than just campaign finance law violations because if it is just campaign finance law violations the chances of the FEC ruling before the 2020 elections is basically zero.

https://www.publicintegrity.org/2018/03/29/21639/stormy-daniels-payoff-illegal-contribution-fec-ruling-could-take-years


983485194069069825

https://media.giphy.com/media/xT5LMDpYJK2jQlPlba/giphy.gif

benefactor
04-09-2018, 06:57 PM
He's a clown... the biggest issue for him is how much the peeps getting nailed are willing to talk...

On the other hand, President Pence would probably be worse, AND much less entertaining...
One of the reasons I want to see him finish the term too. This is the most Ive paid attention to politics in quite some time.:lol

Spurminator
04-09-2018, 06:57 PM
Manafort facing life in prison. :lmao

Mike Flynn case likely to be dismissed FBI didn't think he lied but a Democrat prosecutor decided to press charges :lmao


Cohen raid final nail in coffin for Mueller investigation:lmao

13 Russians on Facebook :lmao:lmao:lmao

Jules Suzdaltsev :lmao

What was Ralph Nader's position on obstruction of justice by elected officials?

spurraider21
04-09-2018, 07:01 PM
Mike Flynn case likely to be dismissed
link?


FBI didn't think he lied but a Democrat prosecutor decided to press charges :lmao
:lol mueller is the prosecutor and he's a republican

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:03 PM
Funny thing is this isn't actually part of the Mueller investigation. Trump's gonna have to fire the guy he personally interviewed last October and hired in January.

:lmao

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:04 PM
link?


:lol mueller is the prosecutor and he's a republican

:lmaowned!

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:06 PM
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GOP running as fast as they can covering up for David Dennison :lol

Chris
04-09-2018, 07:07 PM
link?


:lol mueller is the prosecutor and he's a republican

Mueller has a team of prosecutors comprised mostly of Democrats. lol You didn't know that? :lmao

Chris
04-09-2018, 07:08 PM
:lmaowned!

welp :lmao

This is what happens when you watch TMZ and The Young Turks :lmao

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:08 PM
983494768650055681

My
Attorney
Got
Arrested!

#MAGA


:rollin :lmao :rollin

Chris
04-09-2018, 07:10 PM
Pavlov busting out the Simpsons memes. He's on Cloud 9 right now :lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:11 PM
You gotta be shitting me:

983493131441229824

:lmao :rollin :lol

spurraider21
04-09-2018, 07:13 PM
Mueller has a team of prosecutors comprised mostly of Democrats. lol You didn't know that? :lmao
mueller is calling the shots, and is not allowed to consider political affiliation when assembling his team

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:13 PM
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein made the decision to hand over to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York certain information pertaining to Cohen brought to him by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Bloomberg reported. The raid on Cohen’s office in midtown Manhattan, his home office and a hotel room he was using would have likely needed the sign off of interim U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman, a White House-backed appointee of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, as well as top officials at Justice Department’s headquarters in Washington, former prosecutors told TPM.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, they suggested, would likely have been looped in on the move. The Justice Department declined to comment.

Lol again

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 07:14 PM
Pavlov busting out the Simpsons memes. He's on Cloud 9 right now :lolChris stopped talking about today's raids. Bad day for Chris.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:15 PM
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The most powerful man in the world got rattled :lol

Chris
04-09-2018, 07:15 PM
Deep State openly attacking a sitting President hilarious now.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:16 PM
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein made the decision to hand over to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York certain information pertaining to Cohen brought to him by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Bloomberg reported. The raid on Cohen’s office in midtown Manhattan, his home office and a hotel room he was using would have likely needed the sign off of interim U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman, a White House-backed appointee of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, as well as top officials at Justice Department’s headquarters in Washington, former prosecutors told TPM.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, they suggested, would likely have been looped in on the move. The Justice Department declined to comment.

Lol again

:lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:16 PM
Deep State openly attacking a sitting President hilarious now.

He stole the WH.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 07:17 PM
Deep State openly attacking a sitting President hilarious now.They're all Trump appointees, Chris.

Trill Clinton
04-09-2018, 07:17 PM
somebody do something gotdammit!!!http://i66.tinypic.com/1zxuykn.jpg


https://i.imgur.com/ZZqu6PW.gif

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:18 PM
983496904158871552

:lol

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 07:19 PM
983496904158871552

:lolDamn, Chris gonna boycott the English language now.

Chris
04-09-2018, 07:20 PM
983497285823877120

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:21 PM
Deep State openly attacking a sitting President hilarious now.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein made the decision to hand over to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York certain information pertaining to Cohen brought to him by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Bloomberg reported. The raid on Cohen’s office in midtown Manhattan, his home office and a hotel room he was using would have likely needed the sign off of interim U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman, a White House-backed appointee of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, as well as top officials at Justice Department’s headquarters in Washington, former prosecutors told TPM.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, they suggested, would likely have been looped in on the move. The Justice Department declined to comment.

Chris
04-09-2018, 07:26 PM
Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein made the decision to hand over to the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the Southern District of New York certain information pertaining to Cohen brought to him by Special Counsel Robert Mueller, Bloomberg reported. The raid on Cohen’s office in midtown Manhattan, his home office and a hotel room he was using would have likely needed the sign off of interim U.S. Attorney Geoffrey S. Berman, a White House-backed appointee of Attorney General Jeff Sessions, as well as top officials at Justice Department’s headquarters in Washington, former prosecutors told TPM.

Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, they suggested, would likely have been looped in on the move. The Justice Department declined to comment.

Deep State encompasses all facets of the government- hence drain the swamp. Just an FYI.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 07:29 PM
983497285823877120These are Trump appointees. Just FYI.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:30 PM
983500540406513665

44 got j:lolkes

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 07:30 PM
Damn, Chris gonna boycott the English language now.

:lmao

boutons_deux
04-09-2018, 07:31 PM
For Trump, the FBI raid of Michael Cohen's office means war (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/9/1755757/-For-Trump-the-FBI-raid-of-Michael-Cohen-means-war)

During a meeting with his national security team, Trump took time for a spontaneous reaction (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/9/1755753/-Trump-calls-raid-of-Cohen-s-office-an-attack-on-our-county-says-We-ll-see-about-firing-Mueller) that involved constant repetition of words like "witch-hunt" and "disgrace" and "no collusion" and "Hillary Clinton."

"So I just heard that

they broke into the office :lol of one of my personal attorneys,

a good man and it's a disgraceful situation. It's a total witch-hunt," Trump said,

"The attorney general made a terrible mistake when he did this and when he recused himself," Trump said.

It's worth noting that, by all accounts of former U.S. Attorneys,

the process to obtain a warrant to search the office of an attorney is especially arduous.

Former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York Miriam Rocah told MSNBC that convincing a federal judge to approve such a warrant

would require "many extra layers” and, at a base level,

that judge would have to find probable cause that at least one or more crimes were committed at the location being searched.

There's simply no other way to read Trump's impromptu comments about the raid than those of someone who was coming unglued by the news. Look out, America—this means war.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/9/1755757/-For-Trump-the-FBI-raid-of-Michael-Cohen-means-war

Mueller's just doing his job, while Trash refuses to do his job.

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:32 PM
Deep State encompasses all facets of the government- hence drain the swamp. Just an FYI.

Are Jeff Sessions, Rod Rosenstein, and Geoffrey Berman members of the deep state?

Spurminator
04-09-2018, 07:34 PM
Draining the swamp by installing more Deep State players = 4324-D chess

Trill Clinton
04-09-2018, 07:35 PM
Spurtacular, Nathan89 tag in!http://i66.tinypic.com/1zxuykn.jpg

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:37 PM
The deep state appears seems to me to be nothing more than a refuge for those avoiding reality

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:39 PM
you just can’t have a conversation with someone who cries :cry deep state :cry without understanding the process required to execute a no-knock raid on the presidents personal attorney, much less the players involved in said execution.

Spurminator
04-09-2018, 07:40 PM
you just can’t have a conversation with someone who cries :cry deep state :cry without understanding the process required to execute a no-knock raid on the presidents personal attorney, much less the players involved in said execution.

:lol conversation with Chris.

He'll put you on ignore too and hide in his fake news safe space.

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:42 PM
Touché

Chris
04-09-2018, 07:43 PM
you just can’t have a conversation with someone who cries :cry deep state :cry without understanding the process required to execute a no-knock raid on the presidents personal attorney, much less the players involved in said execution.

Thank God we have you here to interpret it for us Code Reader.

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:43 PM
Upon President Donald Trump's firing Preet Bharara as U.S. Attorney, Trump reportedly interviewed Berman among other candidates for the position.[15] On January 3, 2018, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced Berman's appointment as U.S. Attorney, along with sixteen other former prosecutors, to serve ad interim in various offices around the country until the Senate can permanently confirm them.[16][17]

Is deep state an anagram for Geoffrey berman?

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:44 PM
Thank God we have you here to interpret it for us Code Reader.

God doesn’t exist, but you’re welcome

vy65
04-09-2018, 07:46 PM
Interim US Attorney. Guess he doesn’t want the gig. Makes sense since SDNY isn’t prestigious/a career maker ...

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 08:04 PM
983439280587538432

The FBI might have his tax returns? I'm sure his "fixer" does his taxes on th down low :lol

Reck
04-09-2018, 08:06 PM
Imagine this guy flipping. :lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 08:08 PM
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Interesting...

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 08:09 PM
983499297256652801

:wow

spurraider21
04-09-2018, 08:10 PM
Imagine this guy flipping. :lol
the attorney client privilege would limit how useful he would be

ElNono
04-09-2018, 08:13 PM
Deep State openly attacking a sitting President hilarious now.

who is/are the deep state, tbh?

ElNono
04-09-2018, 08:15 PM
Deep State encompasses all facets of the government- hence drain the swamp. Just an FYI.

examples?

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 08:19 PM
the attorney client privilege would limit how useful he would beYes -- but there is a lot of work he did as a business and campaign adviser.

Chris
04-09-2018, 08:21 PM
983456983759163393
983457699886231553
983459375896555520
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983513419763531776

hater
04-09-2018, 08:23 PM
who is/are the deep state, tbh?

This is a military oligarchy so olygarchs, military and intel agencies

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 08:26 PM
983456983759163393
983457699886231553
983459375896555520
983513029269602304
983513419763531776:lol Chris got his marching orders.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 08:27 PM
This is a military oligarchy so olygarchs, military and intel agenciesWho are the military oligarchs?

List them.

ElNono
04-09-2018, 08:27 PM
This is a military oligarchy so olygarchs, military and intel agencies

The MIC?

vy65
04-09-2018, 08:30 PM
Cohen is a fixer. He’s barely an attorney and it’s laughable to call him one of America’s best. Thomas. Cooley. Law. School.

What’s the extortion? A claim for breech? A dec action on the enforceability of an NDA. You realize there are laws protecting stormys ability to sue, the least of which is the first amendment.

What type of law does Vachel Lindsey practice to give us such poignant insights?

ElNono
04-09-2018, 08:32 PM
983457699886231553

Victims don't get raided by the FBI...

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 08:33 PM
Cohen is a fixer. He’s barely an attorney and it’s laughable to call him one of America’s best. Thomas. Cooley. Law. School.

What’s the extortion? A claim for breech? A dec action on the enforceability of an NDA. You realize there are laws protecting stormys ability to sue, the least of which is the first amendment.

What type of law does Vachel Lindsey practice to give us such poignant insights?Well he's a poet who died over 80 years ago, so if he had a law license it's probably expired.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 08:35 PM
983500891700584448

Could this be another violation? Hmmm

ElNono
04-09-2018, 08:36 PM
Heck, arguably if Dennison and his attorney were victims, this would've gone a lot better for them, since they could've easily had the documents sealed by a court.

vy65
04-09-2018, 08:37 PM
the attorney client privilege would limit how useful he would be

If he flipped, I’d imagine it’d be to cover his own ass, meaning the crime fraud exception would be heavily invoked. That, plus he’d be prone to articulating conversations/documents/ etc as not involving legal advice.

vy65
04-09-2018, 08:38 PM
That said, he ain’t flipping

Chris
04-09-2018, 08:41 PM
Victims don't get raided by the FBI...

Looks like you got inside intel. Thank God we have you and vy here to clarify for us laymen.

ElNono
04-09-2018, 08:41 PM
If he flipped, I’d imagine it’d be to cover his own ass, meaning the crime fraud exception would be heavily invoked. That, plus he’d be prone to articulating conversations/documents/ etc as not involving legal advice.

he aint flipping for the next 3 years, tbh

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 08:41 PM
“This search warrant is like dropping a bomb on Trump’s front porch,” said Joyce White Vance, a former U.S. attorney in Alabama.

983510031088828416

:lol

ElNono
04-09-2018, 08:41 PM
Looks like you got inside intel. Thank God we have you and vy here to clarify for us laymen.

you're welcome

Chris
04-09-2018, 08:42 PM
Cohen is a fixer. He’s barely an attorney and it’s laughable to call him one of America’s best. Thomas. Cooley. Law. School.

What’s the extortion? A claim for breech? A dec action on the enforceability of an NDA. You realize there are laws protecting stormys ability to sue, the least of which is the first amendment.

What type of law does Vachel Lindsey practice to give us such poignant insights?

lol oops the Code Reader had a minor lapse :lmao

vy65
04-09-2018, 08:44 PM
Looks like you got inside intel. Thank God we have you and vy here to clarify for us laymen.

Doing what I can to help the peasants

vy65
04-09-2018, 08:45 PM
lol oops the Code Reader had a minor lapse :lmao

I’m proud that you were able to come up with something that didn’t involve a Thomas1774Paine tweet. Good job.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 08:45 PM
Looks like you got inside intel. Thank God we have you and vy here to clarify for us laymen.Tell us how this raid is good news for Trump.

DarrinS
04-09-2018, 08:46 PM
lol oops the Code Reader had a minor lapse :lmao

Why are you calling a lawyer a code reader? That’s FuzzyLumpkins’ style.

Chris
04-09-2018, 08:49 PM
Why are you calling a lawyer a code reader? That’s FuzzyLumpkins’ style.

Didn't know he was a lawyer tbh what does that have to do with anything?

ElNono
04-09-2018, 08:49 PM
This is entertaining and all, but not much fire until you see an actual indictment, tbh...

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 08:53 PM
This is entertaining and all, but not much fire until you see an actual indictment, tbh...I can have fun during the wait. A little under three months for Manafort.

vy65
04-09-2018, 08:53 PM
Didn't know he was a lawyer tbh what does that have to do with anything?

What does being a lawyer have to do with the poets claim that stormy is extorting DJT? Maybe you should stick to reposting tweets ...

Chris
04-09-2018, 08:55 PM
What does being a lawyer have to do with the poets claim that stormy is extorting DJT? Maybe you should stick to reposting tweets ...

Maybe Vachel Lindsay can give you some tips from the ether. They sell ouija boards at Walmart.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 08:56 PM
Maybe Vachel Lindsay can give you some tips from the ether. They sell ouija boards at Walmart.You posted his tweets.

Maybe you can explain his theory, Chris.

vy65
04-09-2018, 08:57 PM
Maybe Vachel Lindsay can give you some tips from the ether. They sell ouija boards at Walmart.

That doesn’t make any sense.

Do you know what being a lawyer has to do with commenting on the applicability of laws or do you need that spelled out too?

DarrinS
04-09-2018, 08:58 PM
This is entertaining and all, but not much fire until you see an actual indictment, tbh...

Pretty much.

DarrinS
04-09-2018, 08:59 PM
Didn't know he was a lawyer tbh what does that have to do with anything?

It’s just not a good look. Spurraider is also a lawyer, just fyi.

Chris
04-09-2018, 09:01 PM
That doesn’t make any sense.

Do you know what being a lawyer has to do with commenting on the applicability of laws or do you need that spelled out too?

You can grandstand all you like. I'm not impressed.

BD24
04-09-2018, 09:03 PM
Even Darrin telling Chris's stupid ass to shut up :lol

Fellow republicans on the board don't even want to claim this fucking idiot :lol

Vy going in on him with no lube.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 09:04 PM
You can grandstand all you like. I'm not impressed.:lol grandstanding

Dude knows more than you do.

It happens.

vy65
04-09-2018, 09:05 PM
Have you figured out yet what being a lawyer has to do with understanding how laws operate?

vy65
04-09-2018, 09:06 PM
I bet Vachel-Chris thinks anti-SLAPP laws are meant to prevent assault

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:07 PM
David Dennison sure knows how to pick em:

983521834439249923

:lmao

AaronY
04-09-2018, 09:07 PM
I’m proud that you were able to come up with something that didn’t involve a Thomas1774Paine tweet. Good job.
Is that guy like T-Pain? Cuz I like him

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:10 PM
983525904734474240

:wow

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 09:12 PM
983522667507613697

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:12 PM
983525718289137670

ElNono
04-09-2018, 09:15 PM
983522667507613697

:lol

DarrinS
04-09-2018, 09:15 PM
983525718289137670

Lol, faggot trying to take credit.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:15 PM
Aunt Crabby with the goods:

983526203809259520

:lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:16 PM
Lol, faggot trying to take credit.

:lol

vy65
04-09-2018, 09:16 PM
983522667507613697

:lol

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:18 PM
983525191769841664

:wow

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 09:21 PM
983525191769841664

:wowI am going to love the YouTube supercut of cable news folks saying "taint team."

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:21 PM
983528760757628928

:lol

vy65
04-09-2018, 09:24 PM
983525191769841664

:wow

While their role is to conduct a privilege review, taint team is also comprised of officers of the court — meaning they have an affirmative duty to disclose any evidence of a crime that they discover during priv review. And since the trigger is evidence of a crime, attorney-client privilege won’t apply.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:25 PM
983527647836889089

My
Attorney
Got
Arrested

MAGAAAAHAHAHA!!! :lmao

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 09:27 PM
Trigger alert for Chris: this woman is a lawyer.


Brief thread: Before the warrant for Cohen’s Office and Hotel would have been approved, it had to be reviewed by the Office of Enforcement Operations, led by Jennifer Hodge. justice.gov/criminal-oeo
Then, it would have needed approval by the Career (not political) Deputy Assistant Attorney General (DAAG) over OEO/Jennifer Hodge. The guy in that role is named Ray Hulser. Here’s what you need to know about Ray: he has spent his entire career at DOJ, most of which was in the--wait for it: Public Integrity Section (aka PIN) of the Criminal Division. Ray has spent his career working on super-duper sensitive criminal investigations and matters which involve public officials, judges, corruption & crime. He is discreet, well-liked, and trusted. Which adds a layer of airtight approval by a trusted long-term expert voice in the Criminal Division, before it got approved by a federal judge.

Also in the know would be acting AAG John Cronan (while not Senate confirmed) had to be approved to serve as the Acting AAG by none other than the Donald J. Trump White House. In other words, Acting AAG Cronan, DAG Rosenstein (boss to Cronan) and SDNY US Attorney Geoff Berman were all suggested AND approved to be in their roles, specifically by the Trump White House. And they all said go for it, FBI./ END #airtight

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/983459515847856128.html

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:29 PM
Where there's smoke...

983015405454286848

:wow

Reck
04-09-2018, 09:32 PM
Looks like Chris took it on the chin and left. Good for him.

LkrFan
04-09-2018, 09:46 PM
983527820562444288

DMX7
04-09-2018, 09:48 PM
Lol, faggot trying to take credit.


LOL, yeah that was pretty pathetic.

DMX7
04-09-2018, 09:51 PM
983522667507613697

LMAO!!!!!!!!! :rollin

They need to make it some kind of drinking game and what a great time that would be! :)

Chris
04-09-2018, 09:58 PM
Democrat Alan Dershowitz Professor of Harvard Law Scool for 50 years aka Daddy opines.


983515046524440576

Reck
04-09-2018, 10:01 PM
Lol, faggot trying to take credit.

Would you rather Stormy Daniels and her two bit comedian lawyer be the one taking the credit? (Which they are of course.)

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 10:04 PM
Democrat Alan Dershowitz Professor of Harvard Law Scool for 50 years aka Daddy opines.


983515046524440576:lol Dershowitz bad now.

ElNono
04-09-2018, 10:04 PM
"This may be an attempt to squeeze Cohen," he said. "He's the lawyer, he's the guy who knows all the facts about Donald Trump, and to get him to turn against his client."

"This is a very dangerous day today for lawyer-client relations," he added.

Dershowitz, who has drawn the ire of Democrats for defending Trump, said Mueller's move is also dangerous because it gives the FBI the option of deciding what information seized from Cohen to pursue.

"I tell [clients] on my word of honor that what you tell me is sacrosanct," he said. "And now they say, just based on probable cause ... they can burst into the office, grab all the computers, and then give it to another FBI agent and say, 'You're the firewall. We want you now to read all these confidential communications, tell us which ones we can get and which ones we can't get.'"

---

So Dershowitz doesn't know what this is about... Only Mueller does...

Chris
04-09-2018, 10:06 PM
:lol Dershowitz bad now.

You mean good and yes.

DMX7
04-09-2018, 10:08 PM
Shit is getting so real right now.

ElNono
04-09-2018, 10:10 PM
To be fair, I don't think Dennison is really in danger here unless there's some criminal activity...

I mean, would it be embarrassing to find more NDAs, porn star connections, etc? sure. But this dude has no shame, so I don't really think it would hurt him, tbh, it would just make Melania look like an idiot...

Brazil
04-09-2018, 10:16 PM
:lmao Chris spinning dat shit is hilarious tbh...

Brazil
04-09-2018, 10:19 PM
To be fair, I don't think Dennison is really in danger here unless there's some criminal activity...

I mean, would it be embarrassing to find more NDAs, porn star connections, etc? sure. But this dude has no shame, so I don't really think it would hurt him, tbh, it would just make Melania look like an idiot...

True but the concept of mafia lawyer style is already funny as shit... I’d love to see trump in big shit because of a porn star... oh boy that would be simply amazing :lmao...

DarrinS
04-09-2018, 10:28 PM
Would you rather Stormy Daniels and her two bit comedian lawyer be the one taking the credit? (Which they are of course.)

I thought I saw her lawyer tweet something, but it seems forgettable now, tbh.

Brazil
04-09-2018, 10:29 PM
It’s hammer time !

:lmao

DMX7
04-09-2018, 10:59 PM
It’s hammer time !

:lmao

Is CNN International the only channel covering this in France?

Chris
04-09-2018, 11:13 PM
Poor sods get spoon fed pure propaganda from Merkel BBC and CIA CNN :lol

DMX7
04-09-2018, 11:28 PM
Poor sods get spoon fed pure propaganda from Merkel BBC and CIA CNN :lol

Merkel BBC? Get your countries straight.

Pavlov
04-09-2018, 11:32 PM
Merkel BBC? Get your countries straight.:lmao white Chris

clambake
04-09-2018, 11:41 PM
To be fair, I don't think Dennison is really in danger here unless there's some criminal activity...

I mean, would it be embarrassing to find more NDAs, porn star connections, etc? sure. But this dude has no shame, so I don't really think it would hurt him, tbh, it would just make Melania look like an idiot...

i'm with you on this.


fun stuff

Chris
04-10-2018, 12:13 AM
Merkel BBC? Get your countries straight.

There's this thing called the European Union. Get your facts straight.

DMX7
04-10-2018, 12:14 AM
There's this thing called the European Union. Get your facts straight.

LOL BREXIT.

Chris
04-10-2018, 12:27 AM
LOL BREXIT.

LOL MARCH 2019

Pavlov
04-10-2018, 12:42 AM
:lol ignorant white Chris trying to spin geography

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 04:40 AM
983623620567150592

:lol

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 04:47 AM
Fascinating tbh:

983590937740759040

:)

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 05:26 AM
983600215369248768

:corn:

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 05:31 AM
983492330069032961

:lmao

Brazil
04-10-2018, 05:32 AM
Is CNN International the only channel covering this in France?

Not living in France but good try, I guess only Fox News is the only channel covering this in your state ?

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 05:35 AM
983618416404643840

Tee Hee

boutons_deux
04-10-2018, 05:48 AM
:lol Dershowitz bad now.

he's been "bad" and stupidly political rather than legal on several issues

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 06:29 AM
983663399904169984

David getting trolled :lmao

FuzzyLumpkins
04-10-2018, 08:52 AM
To be fair, I don't think Dennison is really in danger here unless there's some criminal activity...

I mean, would it be embarrassing to find more NDAs, porn star connections, etc? sure. But this dude has no shame, so I don't really think it would hurt him, tbh, it would just make Melania look like an idiot...

I feel bad for that woman. She likely has a punitive prenup and certainly an adolescent son to consider. She is stuck with the orange philandering fatty.

Reck
04-10-2018, 09:14 AM
I feel bad for that woman. She likely has a punitive prenup and certainly an adolescent son to consider. She is stuck with the orange philandering fatty.

Meh. She already has a US citizenship out of that deal. Her parents also just got greencards.

baseline bum
04-10-2018, 09:53 AM
I feel bad for that woman.

I don't. Fuck her. She's getting what she deserves for being a gold-digging whore marrying some piece of shit just because he has a lot of money. The right may have cried rivers of crocodile tears for Hillary 20 years ago but the left shouldn't follow suit for the airhead who chose a life of being some asshole's sometimes fuck toy.

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 10:31 AM
I don't. Fuck her. She's getting what she deserves for being a gold-digging whore marrying some piece of shit just because he has a lot of money. The right may have cried rivers of crocodile tears for Hillary 20 years ago but the left shouldn't follow suit for the airhead who chose a life of being some asshole's sometimes fuck toy.

Haha - truth bombs!! :lmao

boutons_deux
04-10-2018, 10:36 AM
'Concerned' Evangelicals Plan To Meet With Trump As Sex Scandals Swirl

evangelical leaders are organizing a sit-down with President Trump in June, four sources with knowledge of the planned meeting tell NPR.

"We're very concerned" about the allegations, said a leader of a

faith-based ministry. :lol WTF is that?

the combination of the Stormy Daniels (https://www.npr.org/2018/03/25/596868354/stormy-daniels-shares-graphic-details-about-alleged-affair-with-trump) sex-scandal allegations and Trump's continued reputation for divisive rhetoric could suppress evangelical turnout in the November midterm elections (https://www.npr.org/tags/549279262/2018-midterm-elections).

"It is a concern of ours that 2018 could be very detrimental to some of the other issues that we hold dear," like preserving religious liberty and restricting abortion rights, :lol Christian Taliban's Sharia!

organizers are working to firm up planning for the daylong event with the White House before sending

invitations to hundreds of conservative Christian pastors and political leaders in the coming days.

ministry leader said Trump's tone and personal life remain a concern for many evangelicals. :lol

"There's things that are like fingernails on the chalkboard to people of faith. That's not who we are; that's not a 'fruit of the Spirit'; that's not leading with humility," :lol but you voted for him anyway, you hypocritical creep

could raise questions about the ethics of holding such events, organized through the White House,

at Trump's hotel

just a few blocks from the White House.

That prospect did not seem to concern the evangelical leaders involved with booking the event.

"That doesn't even cross our mind," said one person with knowledge of the planning, adding that the hotel was chosen because "this is probably the best deal in D.C." :lol financial corruption? so dear to grifter pastors' bank accounts! Evangelical frauds gonna enrich Trash

On issues like abortion, religious freedom and Israel policy, many conservative Christians say Trump has followed through on his campaign promises.

The purpose of that gathering was largely to reassure evangelicals (https://www.npr.org/2016/06/21/483018976/inside-trumps-closed-door-meeting-held-to-reassures-the-evangelicals) concerned about the presumptive Republican nominee's reputation for vulgarity and his multiple marriages.

white evangelicals overwhelmingly favor Republican candidates (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/26/among-white-evangelicals-regular-churchgoers-are-the-most-supportive-of-trump/) at the polls.

Whatever their misgivings,

81 percent of self-identified white evangelicals voted for Trump in the November 2016 election.

Penny Nance of Concerned Women for America, expressed optimism that the president will weather the Daniels storm.

"I just honestly don't hear hand-wringing over the issue," Nance said.

"They're not surprised; they made that decision a long time ago. This president is not Rick Santorum or Mike Huckabee;

he doesn't pretend to be a Bible-banging evangelical."

it's "highly dubious" that the allegations will substantially erode support for the president or suppress midterm turnout.

https://www.npr.org/2018/04/06/599972396/concerned-evangelicals-plan-to-meet-with-trump-as-sex-scandals-swirl?utm_campaign=storyshare&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social

White Christian evangelicals don't GAF about Trash's personal honesty, ethics, morality (he's Repug tribe/team so nothing else matters), as long as he implements their Christian Sharia as Federal law and regs.

RandomGuy
04-10-2018, 10:43 AM
Michael Cohen just got fucked so hard by Donald Trump that Michael Cohen just gave $130,000 to Michael Cohen to keep him quiet.
-some dude on the internet

RandomGuy
04-10-2018, 12:06 PM
"Sometimes when a lawyer and a client love each other very much they share a special hug that makes various legal issues and porn stars go away.-RSR

Pavlov
04-10-2018, 12:24 PM
:lol Dennison at Fox and Friends o'clock.

983662868540346371
983662953894436864

dabom
04-10-2018, 12:27 PM
:lol Dennison at Fox and Friends o'clock.

983662868540346371
983662953894436864

SOMEONE HELP!! -- Orange Shit, 3 AM

Brazil
04-10-2018, 12:43 PM
I don't. Fuck her. She's getting what she deserves for being a gold-digging whore marrying some piece of shit just because he has a lot of money. The right may have cried rivers of crocodile tears for Hillary 20 years ago but the left shouldn't follow suit for the airhead who chose a life of being some asshole's sometimes fuck toy.

+1000

I don't get the Poor Melania.. she is disgusting to have accepted to open her legs for dat orange trash fake haired pos

Pavlov
04-10-2018, 12:49 PM
+1000

I don't get the Poor Melania.. she is disgusting to have accepted to open her legs for dat orange trash fake haired posFeel sorry for Baron before he becomes just another entitled Trump dickhead adult I guess.

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 01:49 PM
983757981786533888

:corn:

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 01:55 PM
983770049541492736

:wow

RandomGuy
04-10-2018, 02:23 PM
983770049541492736

:wow

Details, details. I wonder if lying on that is a criminal offense. Seem to remember it was. Certainly something that would subject a lawyer to an ethical investigation at the state bar. Probably the least of this ass-circus' problems, tbh.




On Sunday, Avenatti issued a powerful rebuke to these criticisms in the form of a 27-page legal filing that requests the chance to depose both President Donald Trump and Cohen as part of Daniels’ lawsuit against them.

As I’ve reported, Daniels’ legal challenge to a contract made with Cohen’s Essential Consultants LLC for her to stay quiet about an alleged affair with Trump is stunningly strong. Her case rests on the claim that Trump never agreed to the deal, which would mean the contract was never actually formed. Trump’s lack of signature on the contract and his own statements, as well as those of his representatives in the White House and those of Cohen, support that very argument. :rollin

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/stormy-daniels-motion-to-depose-trump-is-on-stunningly-solid-legal-footing.html

dabom
04-10-2018, 02:25 PM
Details, details. I wonder if lying on that is a criminal offense. Seem to remember it was. Certainly something that would subject a lawyer to an ethical investigation at the state bar. Probably the least of this ass-circus' problems, tbh.




https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/stormy-daniels-motion-to-depose-trump-is-on-stunningly-solid-legal-footing.html

:lol

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 02:25 PM
Funny shit here:

983781965009686528

:lol

RandomGuy
04-10-2018, 02:26 PM
That doesn’t make any sense.

Do you know what being a lawyer has to do with commenting on the applicability of laws or do you need that spelled out too?

FWIW, speaking of that the Slate article has a good run down.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/stormy-daniels-motion-to-depose-trump-is-on-stunningly-solid-legal-footing.html

You may find Aravetti's briefing.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qsvft99a1hx5a8l/Renewed%20Motion.pdf?dl=0

While I am not a lawyer, I do have the occasion to review filings and motions. It seemed pretty well put together to me.

RandomGuy
04-10-2018, 02:29 PM
Feel sorry for Baron before he becomes just another entitled Trump dickhead adult I guess.

Seems like contact with dad determines that. Baron by all accounts, has little, because Melania.

He may turn out ok. I am rooting for the little guy. He can't help who he daddy is.

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 02:49 PM
Don't forget about the 1998 Playmate of the year. I bet she got the goods on David Dennison:

983769180464992256

:wow

vy65
04-10-2018, 02:51 PM
FWIW, speaking of that the Slate article has a good run down.
https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2018/04/stormy-daniels-motion-to-depose-trump-is-on-stunningly-solid-legal-footing.html

You may find Aravetti's briefing.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qsvft99a1hx5a8l/Renewed%20Motion.pdf?dl=0

While I am not a lawyer, I do have the occasion to review filings and motions. It seemed pretty well put together to me.

Thanks for this.

While I haven't fully thought it through, Stormy's position is still a tough one. She signed the contract and received the 130k payment. That should be enough to have the agreement be enforceable against her as a matter of law (at least here in Texas; I don't know if California law is different). The typical rule (again, in Texas) is that all you need is for the party against whom enforcement of the agreement is sought to a) have signed and b) receive consideration.


“[I]f Mr. Trump was completely unaware of Mr. Cohen’s actions, the question naturally arises as to how it would be possible for a ‘meeting of the minds’ to have occurred between parties where one of the parties does not even know about the existence of the agreement?” the filing continues.

I don't really buy the meeting of the minds argument. Cohen likely had actual or apparent authority. It's been years since I've looked at what those rules are, but it feels like Trump wouldn't need to know about the agreement itself so long as it appeared that Cohen had authority to act on Trump's behalf (at least in the eyes of Stormy). And that rule makes sense -- a principal (as in the principal-agent relationship) having to know exactly what his agent was doing would really defeat the whole purpose behind the law of agency.

But again, I haven't really thought this through much and I don't know California law, so I'm more than happy to be wrong on this. Maybe my yeghpire spurraider21 has more insight.

LkrFan
04-10-2018, 02:58 PM
You mean good and yes.

983770575347834880

:lol

Pavlov
04-10-2018, 03:09 PM
983770575347834880

:lolI can certainly see the possibility of state charges here too.

boutons_deux
04-10-2018, 03:15 PM
After Cohen raid, prosecutors ask Trump Org to turn over records related to Stormy Daniels payments (https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/10/1755949/-New-York-prosecutors-ask-Trump-Organization-to-turn-over-records-relating-to-Stormy-Daniels-payments)


In what appears to be a new development, federal prosecutors in New York are now asking the Trump Organization for records related to attorney Michael Cohen's payment of $130,000 to adult film actress Stormy Daniels (https://www.wsj.com/articles/feds-seek-stormy-daniels-documents-tied-to-trump-organization-1523379888).


The request came in connection with raids by the Federal Bureau of Investigation Monday on the office, hotel room and home of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen.

Mr. Cohen made the payment to Stephanie Clifford, a former porn star known professionally as Stormy Daniels, less than two weeks before the 2016 presidential election.


That prosecutors are asking for these documents immediately after the raid on Cohen's office,

a raid in which documents related to this same payment reportedly were seized, seems significant—and

the risks to the Trump Organization have now been heightened.

The new request poses a key risk to the Trump company,

now ostensibly helmed by the president's son, Donald Trump Jr.

After the Cohen raid, prosecutors now have in their possession whatever documents Cohen himself had related to the Daniels payment—

including, presumably, any records of his communications with Trump and his company over the matter.

If the Trump Organization is not forthcoming with those same documents,

prosecutors will be able to argue to a judge that the company is intentionally withholding information related to the investigation—

potentially setting up a warrant, and a raid, on the Trump offices themselves.


https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/4/10/1755949/-New-York-prosecutors-ask-Trump-Organization-to-turn-over-records-relating-to-Stormy-Daniels-payments

... all because Trash couldn't keep his entitled dick in his pants. :lol

spurraider21
04-10-2018, 03:57 PM
Thanks for this.

While I haven't fully thought it through, Stormy's position is still a tough one. She signed the contract and received the 130k payment. That should be enough to have the agreement be enforceable against her as a matter of law (at least here in Texas; I don't know if California law is different). The typical rule (again, in Texas) is that all you need is for the party against whom enforcement of the agreement is sought to a) have signed and b) receive consideration.



I don't really buy the meeting of the minds argument. Cohen likely had actual or apparent authority. It's been years since I've looked at what those rules are, but it feels like Trump wouldn't need to know about the agreement itself so long as it appeared that Cohen had authority to act on Trump's behalf (at least in the eyes of Stormy). And that rule makes sense -- a principal (as in the principal-agent relationship) having to know exactly what his agent was doing would really defeat the whole purpose behind the law of agency.

But again, I haven't really thought this through much and I don't know California law, so I'm more than happy to be wrong on this. Maybe my yeghpire spurraider21 (http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905) has more insight.
you basically hit the nail on the head. apparent authority on its own can be good enough given the circumstances. pretty sure cohen had both apparent and actual authority

vy65
04-10-2018, 04:03 PM
you basically hit the nail on the head. apparent authority on its own can be good enough given the circumstances. pretty sure cohen had both apparent and actual authority

Figured as much. Also seems like ratification could be in play, even if DJT were unaware.

boutons_deux
04-10-2018, 06:25 PM
Stormy Daniels Now Reportedly Cooperating With Federal Investigators

Meet the Press
(https://twitter.com/MeetThePress)✔@MeetThePress
(https://twitter.com/MeetThePress)
BREAKING: Stormy Daniels is cooperating with federal prosecutors investigating Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen

4:28 PM - Apr 10, 2018 (https://twitter.com/MeetThePress/status/983818946263506944)

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Hallie Jackson
(https://twitter.com/HallieJackson)
(https://twitter.com/HallieJackson)✔@HallieJackson
(https://twitter.com/HallieJackson)
(https://twitter.com/HallieJackson)NEW: Stormy Daniels is cooperating with federal investigators looking into the $130k payment / non-disclosure agreement, per multiple sources

(via @Tom_Winter (https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter) + @S_Fitzpatrick (https://twitter.com/S_Fitzpatrick))

4:20 PM - Apr 10, 2018 (https://twitter.com/HallieJackson/status/983816904547684353) · Washington, DC (https://twitter.com/search?q=place%3A01fbe706f872cb32)

Chris
04-10-2018, 07:02 PM
983770575347834880

:lol

You come running every time they ring that bell don't you. Adorable.

Chris
04-10-2018, 07:08 PM
WTHJoLuXLRo

spurraider21
04-10-2018, 07:27 PM
WTHJoLuXLRo
clinton advisors good now

vy65
04-10-2018, 07:34 PM
Fear us Chris, Fear us ...

Chris
04-10-2018, 07:36 PM
Delusional.

Fabbs
04-10-2018, 07:38 PM
You come running every time they ring that bell don't you. Adorable.
pretty easy to spot the sexually repressed / messed up ones.

Goody Proctor and the Salem gang. For F's sake are these the same screamers who wined for Billy Clintons ouster? :rolleyes

Chris
04-10-2018, 07:53 PM
pretty easy to spot the sexually repressed / messed up ones.

Goody Proctor and the Salem gang. For F's sake are these the same screamers who wined for Billy Clintons ouster? :rolleyes

:lol

Chris
04-10-2018, 07:57 PM
983868496705654784

Chris
04-10-2018, 08:07 PM
Can our illustrious Spurstalk lawyers confirm or debunk this?


983864526918516736

Fabbs
04-10-2018, 08:19 PM
Can our illustrious Spurstalk lawyers confirm or debunk this?
:lol
http://salem.lib.virginia.edu/images/people/gileslong1.jpg

Fabbs
04-10-2018, 08:21 PM
983757981786533888

:corn:
And atty client privilege has been around just as long, Schumer.

Can only imagine what kind of strap on or other chit he goes home to. :rolleyes

ElNono
04-10-2018, 08:23 PM
Can our illustrious Spurstalk lawyers confirm or debunk this?

983864526918516736

That's an argument that the defense will certainly rise. But the answer of that question lies in how the FBI handles the evidence, and also what's in it.

attorney-client privilege is not an unlimited privilege, there's some exceptions, like when a crime has been committed.

Like I said earlier, this is all entertaining, but the fun doesn't really start until there are indictments, and what are those for.

vy65
04-10-2018, 08:29 PM
Who signed the warrant to raid Cohens office and hotel room Chris?

Spurminator
04-10-2018, 08:30 PM
Asking for lawyer validation of a Bill Mitchell tweet :lol

vy65
04-10-2018, 08:30 PM
I didn’t know Bill Mitchell tweets constituted legal opinions/memoranda. That’s good to know.

Chris
04-10-2018, 08:44 PM
Who signed the warrant to raid Cohens office and hotel room Chris?

Might want to double check that one vy65.

Chris
04-10-2018, 08:45 PM
983853083548532737

vy65
04-10-2018, 08:47 PM
Might want to double check that one vy65.

Can’t even answer a basic question.

Who signed the warrant to raid Cohen’s shit?

Chris
04-10-2018, 08:52 PM
Can’t even answer a basic question.

Who signed the warrant to raid Cohen’s shit?

I just posted it dummy. :lol I noticed you danced around the Bill Mitchell tweet. I'm still not impressed.