Democrats Looking To Ramp Up The Fascism

[Spurtacular]

So what other kinds of billionaires are there?

You mean the non sociopaths?

lol Dump

[ChumpDumper]

You mean the non sociopaths?

lol DumpAre you folding?

Just say you're folding to save time.

What other kinds of billionaires are there?

[Spurtacular]

https://media.mypillow.com/media/contentmanager/content/mike-desktop.png

[ChumpDumper]

derp folds

And lashes out.

:lol derp

[DMX7]

What kind of billionaire is Trump (assuming he really is a billionaire)?

[Spurtacular]

What kind of billionaire is Trump (assuming he really is a billionaire)?

One that triggers snowflakes very badly.

[Spurtacular]

https://media.mypillow.com/media/contentmanager/content/mike-desktop.png

[Winehole23]

I, for one, am impressed at the low fascism content of this thread.

It's mostly puny bitching and meta-bitching.

[ElNono]

I would not be okay with it. It's patently obvious that it's utterly stupid to have hardened criminals trying to sway people's opinions on everyday politics.

I guess many Democrats don't do a double take, but most law-abiding citizens sure fucking do.

Why is it stupid? They run through a script no matter who’s at the other end of the line. That’s why even Indians can do it.

It’s a job (a shitty one at that).

[Spurtacular]

Why is it stupid? They run through a script no matter who’s at the other end of the line. That’s why even Indians can do it.

It’s a job (a shitty one at that).

If that's all they do, then they're better off getting robots.

[ElNono]

If that's all they do, then they're better off getting robots.

Robots are easy to detect by automated systems. That’s why these people still have a job.

Regardless, I hate telemarking calls, so I wouldn’t mind if they work on something else, tbh

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1210968173106860032?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1210968173106860032?s=19"BREAKING: Young Educated Tech Workers Think Republicans Suck Ass"

Maybe they should try appealing to more than rubes.

[Spurtacular]

Robots are easy to detect by automated systems. That’s why these people still have a job.

Regardless, I hate telemarking calls, so I wouldn’t mind if they work on something else, tbh

So they need humans, and they chose liars, thieves, and murderers to do the job of promoting policies to improve civilization.

You don't see the problem there :tu

:rollin

[ElNono]

So they need humans, and they chose liars, thieves, and murderers to do the job of promoting policies to improve civilization.

You don't see the problem there :tu

:rollin

Well, they’re trying to sell politicians... sounds like the right people for the job.

[ChumpDumper]

So they need humans, and they chose liars, thieves, and murderers to do the job of promoting policies to improve civilization.

You don't see the problem there :tu

:rollinSo you're saying they should've had higher positions in the campaign like Trump's felons?

Use your words.

[Spurtacular]

So you're saying they should've had higher positions in the campaign like Trump's felons?

Use your words.

There's criminal (or otherwise seedy) elements in every presidential campaign at this point. Trump did himself no favors with Manafort.
You're looking for a distraction from a guy using an army of felons to promote himself. That's some hardcore sperm shielding (those are some words for ya, son).

[Spurtacular]

Well, they’re trying to sell politicians... sounds like the right people for the job.

It's a terrible decision. It's terrible optics. It's terrible _________.

[ChumpDumper]

There's criminal (or otherwise seedy) elements in every presidential campaign at this point. Trump did himself no favors with Manafort.
You're looking for a distraction from a guy using an army of felons to promote himself. That's some hardcore sperm shielding (those are some words for ya, son).So Trump's optics are even worse?

Wow. Quite an admission from you. I agree.

[Spurtacular]

So Trump's optics are even worse?

Wow. Quite an admission from you. I agree.

Psychopath making up narratives. Par.

Keep sperm shielding for Bloomberg.

[ChumpDumper]

Psychopath making up narratives. Par.

Keep sperm shielding for Bloomberg.OK, I'll ask you -- are the optics worse for Trump since his actual campaign employees turned out to be felons?

Yes or no

[Spurtacular]

OK, I'll ask you -- are the optics worse for Trump since his actual campaign employees turned out to be felons?

Yes or no

They're not worse. Trump got rid of his felon; Bloomberg knowingly recruited an army of felons on the cheap despite being a billionaire who can afford to employ law-abiding citizens.

[ChumpDumper]

They're not worse. Trump got rid of his felon;There were multiple felons. How many felons until the optics are worse?


Bloomberg knowingly recruited an army of felons on the cheap despite being a billionaire who can afford to employ law-abiding citizens.Are you sure he personally directed the contracting of the telemarketing campaign?

Post your proof of that.

[Spurtacular]

There were multiple felons. How many felons until the optics are worse?

Are you sure he personally directed the contracting of the telemarketing campaign?

Post your proof of that.

Bloomberg knowingly recruited an army of convicted felons. You're desperate sperm shielding.

lol dump

[ChumpDumper]

Bloomberg knowingly recruited an army of convicted felons.Prove it.

[Spurtacular]

Prove it.

lol Dump

[ChumpDumper]

lol Dumpderp folds

derp will lash out next, but derp will stay folded and never back up his false claim

[Spurtacular]

derp folds

derp will lash out next, but derp will stay folded and never back up his false claim

What do you want proven? It's been shown that the felons were working for him.

[ChumpDumper]

Bloomberg knowingly recruited an army of convicted felons.Prove it.

[Spurtacular]

Prove it.

:cry Could be degrees of separation :cry
:cry Plausible deniability :cry

:lmao Today's sperm shielder

[ElNono]

It's a terrible decision. It's terrible optics. It's terrible _________.

It’s a script dude. What’s in it is a lie already.

Still waiting to hear what’s ‘terrible’ about the ‘decision’ or ‘optics’

[Spurtacular]

It’s a script dude. What’s in it is a lie already.

Still waiting to hear what’s ‘terrible’ about the ‘decision’ or ‘optics’

If you don't understand the significance of having criminals for campaign workers, then I can't help you.

You can come up with all the stupid justifications of the world, it won't change the bottom line.

[ChumpDumper]

:cry Could be degrees of separation :cry
:cry Plausible deniability :cry

:lmao Today's sperm shielderderp folds

derp will now lash out

still folded

[Spurtacular]

derp folds

derp will now lash out

still folded

You can comfort yourself all you want. But the responsibility for using felons to promote him lies squarely on Bloomberg's shoulders.

:lmao Cheap ass billionaire.
:lmao Chump hardcore sperm shielding for a guy who won't even win a single delegate probably.

[ChumpDumper]

You can comfort yourself all you want. But the responsibility for using felons to promote him lies squarely on Bloomberg's shoulders.
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShoddyLimpingIvorybilledwoodpecker-small.gif
:lol derp

[ElNono]

If you don't understand the significance of having criminals for campaign workers, then I can't help you.

You can come up with all the stupid justifications of the world, it won't change the bottom line.

Except they’re not campaign workers. They’re contractor telemarketers. When they’re not pimping the Bloomberg script, they’re selling toaster ovens.

[DMX7]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ShoddyLimpingIvorybilledwoodpecker-small.gif



:lol derp

:rollin

[DMX7]

Except they’re not campaign workers. They’re contractor telemarketers. When they’re not pimping the Bloomberg script, they’re selling toaster ovens.

And there is no evidence that Bloomberg knew of it at all. None. #FakeScandal

[ElNono]

I mean there’s a ton of crap to be outrage about when it comes to Bloomberg, both on the left and right. If this is what tickles you, you’re not really trying that hard, tbh

[ChumpDumper]

Right? I think his campaign is a waste of everyone's time and his money, which would be better spent on Senate races along with Steyer's -- but as scandals go, this is not much more than nothing.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1211058940420616192?s=19

[Spurtacular]

And there is no evidence that Bloomberg knew of it at all. None. #FakeScandal

I never called it a scandal. It's just a very poor decision by a cheap billionaire.

It's apropos that felons are representing him; it saves people the time of possibly taking him seriously.

[Winehole23]

I mean there’s a ton of crap to be outrage about when it comes to Bloomberg, both on the left and right. If this is what tickles you, you’re not really trying that hard, tbhCoughs in *stop and frisk*

[ElNono]

Coughs in *stop and frisk*

Yup. His stance and funding towards gun control, I would think, would be a million times more alarming to bubbas

[Spurtacular]

I never called it a scandal. It's just a very poor decision by a cheap billionaire.

It's apropos that felons are representing him; it saves people the time of possibly taking him seriously.

Although, upon further thought it is a scandal. Dude going with criminals over non criminals is not presidential material.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol derp will the full flip-flop-fold

[Spurtacular]

Chump proactively comforting himself.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump proactively comforting himself.derp retroactively moved his goalposts and changed his mind

[Spurtacular]

derp retroactively moved his goalposts and changed his mind

:lol No
:lol Compulsive Blake Zero

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1211628208338210817?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1211628208338210817?s=19Stupid schoolkids should've had guns.

[Spurtacular]

Stupid schoolkids should've had guns.

How about the staff?

You're okay with the 92 percent increase as long as your agenda is being served.

[ChumpDumper]

How about the staff?

You're okay with the 92 percent increase as long as your agenda is being served.:lol "92 percent increase"

You're too stupid to understand even your own posts.

lol derp

[Chris]

Stupid schoolkids should've had guns.

How can a "schoolkid" be a legal gun owner? You're not very good at reading comprehension eh?

[ChumpDumper]

How can a "schoolkid" be a legal gun owner? You're not very good at reading comprehension eh?Notes from parents should do the trick.

[ElNono]

How can a "schoolkid" be a legal gun owner?

This is actually another great example of 2nd amendment regulation. There’s no implicit age restriction on the amendment text.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1211058940420616192?s=19
hur durr far right people say "if you wont vote for us, we wont let you in"

[Spurtacular]

:lol "92 percent increase"

You're too stupid to understand even your own posts.

lol derp

92 percent of mass shootings being in your gun free zones is even worse.

Keep lashing out, Chump.

lol dump

[ChumpDumper]

92 percent of mass shootings being in your gun free zones is even worse.

Keep lashing out, Chump.

lol dumpSo you admit you were completely wrong saying it was a 92% increase?


What was the percentage in those areas before the legislation?

That's the only way to know if there was an increase, you idiot.

[Spurtacular]

So you admit I got a tiny w?

:lmao Dump

[Spurtacular]

What was the percentage in those areas before the legislation?


I would doubt 92 percent or anywhere near it.

[Spurtacular]

That's the only way to know if there was an increase, you idiot.

:cry Muh lash out to victory strategy :cry

lol Dump

[ChumpDumper]

I would doubt 92 percent or anywhere near it.Prove it.

[Spurtacular]

Prove it.

Do you get a tiny w if I don't?

[ChumpDumper]

Do you get a tiny w if I don't?There is no W in it for anyone.

It's only your L if you want it to be.

Are you going to prove it?

[spurraider21]

derp invariably shits himself, brushes them off as giving "tiny w's"

rinse, repeat

[TheGreatYacht]

Obama Praises Elizabeth Warren To Dem Elites

https://youtu.be/YpWvTykI4GM

[Spurtacular]

There is no W in it for anyone.

It's only your L if you want it to be.

Are you going to prove it?

:lmao Psychopath reasoning.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Psychopath reasoning.So it's your L?

[DMX7]

derp invariably shits himself, brushes them off as giving "tiny w's"

rinse, repeat

masochistic is the only way to describe it at this point.

[Spurtacular]

So it's your L?

Definitely you still chasing tiny w.

[ChumpDumper]

Definitely you still chasing tiny w.Nope. I'm always laughing at your obsessing over Ws and admitting your Ls.

You're the only one who cares.

[Spurtacular]

You're going on about this in two threads. You're sure I'm "the only one who cares"?

Of course you are, psychopath. :lol

[Spurtacular]

derp invariably shits himself, brushes them off as giving "tiny w's"

rinse, repeat

Lite chimes in for his psychopath overlord.

rinse, repeat

[ChumpDumper]

You're going on about this in two threads. You're sure I'm "the only one who cares"?

Of course you are, psychopath. :lolI'm simply asking you questions and you're folding.

And now you're whining about it.

:lol

[Spurtacular]

:cry I'm simply caring :cry
:cry Never you mind my bull shit :cry

:rollin

[Spurminator]

1211854954366939136

[Spurtacular]

1211854954366939136

:lol Swamp rats getting mad

[Winehole23]

:lol Swamp rats getting madSwampistas snowflaking over Tweet likes, more like.

[Spurtacular]

Swampistas snowflaking over Tweet likes, more like.

I dunno; but :lol at these little bitch leaks by snowflakes either way.

[Leetonidas]

1211854954366939136

Lol president snowflake

[Winehole23]

I dunno; but :lol at these little bitch leaks by snowflakes either way.Liking a Chelsea tweet isn't a leak, snowflake.

[Spurtacular]

Liking a Chelsea tweet isn't a leak, snowflake.

Who specifically liked the tweet, blakehole?

[Spurtacular]

Obama Praises Elizabeth Warren To Dem Elites

https://youtu.be/YpWvTykI4GM

Obama waiting for the corporate candidate to emerge because he has no real core values to call his own.

[baseline bum]

Right? I think his campaign is a waste of everyone's time and his money, which would be better spent on Senate races along with Steyer's -- but as scandals go, this is not much more than nothing.

Bloomberg would probably donate money to GOP senate candidates again.

[Winehole23]

Bloomberg would probably donate money to GOP senate candidates again.Like he did in 2016.

[Winehole23]

Who specifically liked the tweet, blakehole?The world may never know.

[ChumpDumper]

Who specifically liked the tweet, blakehole?

Do you really care about who liked the tweet?

Yes or no.

[RandomGuy]

Swampistas snowflaking over Tweet likes, more like.


I dunno; but :lol at these little bitch leaks by snowflakes either way.

It wasn't a leak, you stupid motherfucker.

[Spurtacular]

It wasn't a leak, you stupid motherfucker.

Tell us the story, CuckGuy.

[RandomGuy]

Now, go ahead and say cuck a few more times. Please.


cuck.


:lmao


Dance little puppet. Say it again.


Cuck.


Cuck


:rollin

Shit, you really can't help yourself at this point. Keep saying it.



cuck


:rollin


Cuck


:lmao


cuck?


:lmao


Cuck


:lmao


cuck.


:lmao


RandomGuy

Cuck


:lmao Thanks for mentioning me. I almost missed the funny. Keep saying it little puppetka. :rollin


cuck


:lmao


Cuck

:lmao

[Spurtacular]

You gonna tell us the story, or you gonna lash out some more?

[ChumpDumper]

Damn, derp really does care about this tweet liking business.

[Spurtacular]

Damn, derp really does care about this tweet liking business.

So, this is a non-story, you say :tu

[ChumpDumper]

So, this is a non-story, you say :tu
The liking of the tweet is a non-story.

The investigation is a hilarious story.

You think it's all important.:tu

[Spurtacular]

The liking of the tweet is a non-story.

The investigation is a hilarious story.

You think it's all important.:tu

So, what did the investigation yield? Who liked the tweet?

[ChumpDumper]

So, what did the investigation yield? Who liked the tweet?So you didn't actually read the article.:tu

[Spurtacular]

So you didn't actually read the article.:tu

Alright, there's a tiny w for you.

So, what did the investigation yield? Who liked the tweet?

[ChumpDumper]

Alright, there's a tiny w for you.

So, what did the investigation yield? Who liked the tweet?Read the article.

Or don't.

I'm not going to spoon feed you. Are you not a full grown man?

[Spurtacular]

Read the article.

Or don't.

I'm not going to spoon feed you. Are you not a full grown man?

I won't. You're free to pout and not answer simple questions.

Also :lol that this is your stance given you want to talk all day about videos you won't watch seconds of (or claim to not watch).

[ChumpDumper]

I won't.:lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao

It's a simple question with a simple answer to keep the conversation going.

:lmao :cry You haven't taken proper notes :cry
:lmao :cry Muh line in the sand :cry

[ChumpDumper]

I won't.:lmao:lmao

[Spurtacular]

:lmao:lmao

:lmao Snowflake rogue likes #ForHer and then cries when someone investigates.
:lmao Dump.

[ChumpDumper]

I won't.:rollin

[Spurtacular]

Chump comforting himself. Par.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump comforting himself. Par.derp demanding to be spoon fed. Par.

Why won't you just read the article?

[Spurtacular]

derp demanding to be spoon fed. Par.

Why won't you just read the article?

Well, I asked you if there is a simple name so I don't have to; but :cry muh line in the sand :cry.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, I asked you if there is a simple name so I don't have to; but :cry muh line in the sand :cry.It's awesome watching you stamp your feet and pout for an hour when looking it up would take literally five seconds seconds. It's not some long ass YouTube you'd have to sit through.

[Spurtacular]

It's awesome watching you stamp your feet and pout for an hour when looking it up would take literally five seconds seconds. It's not some long ass YouTube you'd have to sit through.

You are taking a page(s) to argue this rather than list a name (if one is known). You have nary the room to be talking about efficiency.

[ChumpDumper]

You are taking a page(s) to argue this rather than list a name (if one is known). You have nary the room to be talking about efficiency.:lol

My goal is to laugh at you. You are providing the laughs in an incredibly efficient manner.

All you have to do to make me stop laughing at you for this is to read the article.

Until you do, lol derp.


:lol

[Winehole23]

While you are using ignorance as a shield to avoid a direct question that would cost you as much time to learn as any one of your non-responsive replies to topic.

[Spurtacular]

:lol

My goal is to laugh at you. You are providing the laughs in an incredibly efficient manner.

All you have to do to make me stop laughing at you for this is to read the article.

Until you do, lol derp.


:lol

Chump's claim:

:cry You need to go on a quest rather than me simply state a name :cry

Chump's reality:

:cry I can't tell you; yer muh sworn mortal enemy :cry

:rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Chump's claim:

:cry You need to go on a quest rather than me simply state a name :cry

Chump's reality:

:cry I can't tell you; yer muh sworn mortal enemy :cry

:rollin:lmao Your claim is that reading one sentence is a quest for you.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Keep 'em coming.

lol derp.

:rollin

[Spurtacular]

:lmao Your claim is that reading one sentence is a quest for you.

:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

Keep 'em coming.

lol derp.

:rollin

All that garble to desperately overshadow :cry Can't answer cos muh line in the sand n' all :cry

[ChumpDumper]

a quest:lmao

Keep crying, derp. Your tears are delicious.

[Spurtacular]

:cry I can't tell you; yer muh sworn mortal enemy :cry

:rollin

:lmao Bottom Line

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao Bottom Line:lmao fake quote

Real quote:

a quest
:rollin

How many hours can I keep you whining about this?

Let's see!

lol derp

[Spurtacular]

:lmao fake quote

Real quote:

:rollin

How many hours can I keep you whining about this?

Let's see!

lol derp

Chump's latest quest for a really big nothing w.

lol Dump

[ChumpDumper]

quest:rollin

[Spurtacular]

:rollin

Quest / Time Suck

You're pathetic, tbh.

[spurraider21]

derp's gonna keep folding and handing out "tiny w's" like candy as he always does

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1212883878702174208?s=19

[spurraider21]

he's still going to be charged and prosecuted.

[Spurtacular]

derp's gonna keep folding and handing out "tiny w's" like candy as he always does

Oh, look; Lite's here propping up Chump's bull shit. Shocking.

[TheGreatYacht]

Democrats Pretend To Oppose Iran Attack They Enabled

https://youtu.be/rR2ZMduQE2s

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1213637488616427520?s=19

[DMC]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1213637488616427520?s=19

These people are so fucking stupid. They'll say anything to get votes (both sides).

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/SaraCarterDC/status/1213637488616427520?s=19
Popular vote is more democratic than EC

one man one vote

opposite of fascism

[Spurtacular]

Popular vote is more democratic than EC

one man one vote

opposite of fascism

Sure. But Democrats and the Republicans haven't taken proper measures to ensure that voting is a trustworthy process.

I'm fine with relying on our Constitutionally implemented Republican ideals as our best option.

If you're really worried about being more democratic, you should push for ranked choice voting.

[Chris]

These people are so fucking stupid. They'll say anything to get votes (both sides).

Even lie about their heritage.

[Chris]

Popular vote is more democratic than EC

one man one vote

opposite of fascism

2 states would dominate the election so no, bad idea. The electoral college provides an even playing field.

[spurraider21]

Sure. But Democrats and the Republicans haven't taken proper measures to ensure that voting is a trustworthy process.
sure they have. Trump had the voter fraud commission.


I'm fine with relying on our Constitutionally implemented Republican ideals as our best option.
which still relies on our voting being trustworthy, so it’s not any more of a safeguard against voter fraud


If you're really worried about being more democratic, you should push for ranked choice voting.
I’m for ranked choice voting. For both primaries and general election

[spurraider21]

2 states would dominate the election so no, bad idea. The electoral college provides an even playing field.
States don’t vote. Individuals do

60 million people represent about 1/5 of the country. No reason their voices should count less based on where they reside geographically within the country

[Spurtacular]

which still relies on our voting being trustworthy, so it’s not any more of a safeguard against voter fraud

It prevents pay for votes, pay/motivation for ballot stuffing, and it lessens the incentives to encourage illegal aliens to vote. It's not perfect; but you're so fucking full of shit, Lite.

[Spurtacular]

I’m for ranked choice voting. For both primaries and general election

Yet you spend a lot of time crying about the electoral college (which won't change) and pretty much no time on ranked choice voting (which can practically be implemented).

[ElNono]

Getting rid of the electoral college would require a Constitutional Amendment and in this day and age it’s politically not possible. Warren or whoever else makes such promises is full of shit.

[spurraider21]

Yet you spend a lot of time crying about the electoral college (which won't change) and pretty much no time on ranked choice voting (which can practically be implemented).
I think the EC is a bigger issue than lack of ranked voting

[Spurtacular]

I think the EC is a bigger issue than lack of ranked voting

Of course you do. It's what your masters are telling you that you need to be crying about, instead of practical measures that'll create more accountability and democracy.

[DMC]

States don’t vote. Individuals do

60 million people represent about 1/5 of the country. No reason their voices should count less based on where they reside geographically within the country

Might as well rid the states of borders and governments then and have one country, no states. Why do we need state representations if it's a popular vote? Just vote on everything.

[ChumpDumper]

"balanced"

[Spurtacular]

Might as well rid the states of borders and governments then and have one country, no states. Why do we need state representations if it's a popular vote? Just vote on everything.

If that's what it takes to win for her. Amirite, Lite?

:lmao

spurraider21 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=31905)

[ChumpHumper]

I like lamp.

[spurraider21]

Might as well rid the states of borders and governments then and have one country, no states. Why do we need state representations if it's a popular vote? Just vote on everything.
Amazing strawmen. Let me know if you want to have an actual discussion though

[spurraider21]

It prevents pay for votes, pay/motivation for ballot stuffing, and it lessens the incentives to encourage illegal aliens to vote. It's not perfect; but you're so fucking full of shit, Lite.
Doesn’t discourage any of that. Candidates are still motivated to get as many votes as possible in every state

[Spurtacular]

Doesn’t discourage any of that.

:lol The nuh uh rebuttal

[spurraider21]

Of course you do. It's what your masters are telling you that you need to be crying about, instead of practical measures that'll create more accountability and democracy.
I feel that way because the EC is fundamentally undemocratic. The only potential it serves over a popular vote is the potential to override the will of the people

[Spurtacular]

Candidates are still motivated to get as many votes as possible in every state

Candidates weren't motivated to win most states.

As it is, if abolishing electoral college wasn't a game changer, you wouldn't be crying.

And pretending that people wouldn't sleeze for votes that are increased currency is being willfully dense.

[spurraider21]

Candidates weren't motivated to win most states.

As it is, if abolishing electoral college wasn't a game changer, you wouldn't be crying.

And pretending that people wouldn't sleeze for votes that are increased currency is being willfully dense.
Candidates still want to get as many votes as possible. It’s not like republicans are actively asking their voters in New York to stay home

the reason i want the EC abolished is that it’s main distinction from a national popular vote is the potential to override the will of the people

[DMC]

Amazing strawmen. Let me know if you want to have an actual discussion though

Actually I think that would be a slippery slope. But if you want to get rid of the Electoral College and go straight to a popular vote aren't you removing the state's power to represent itself to the federal government?

[DMC]

Candidates weren't motivated to win most states.

As it is, if abolishing electoral college wasn't a game changer, you wouldn't be crying.

And pretending that people wouldn't sleeze for votes that are increased currency is being willfully dense.

It's very similar to gerrymandering. One side wants to change the rules to give themselves a better chance to win. It's not about fairness at all.

[Spurtacular]

Candidates still want to get as many votes as possible. It’s not like republicans are actively asking their voters in New York to stay home

the reason i want the EC abolished is that it’s main distinction from a national popular vote is the potential to override the will of the people

Why do you support electronic voting and defy voter ID laws if you're so concerned about the will of the people?

[Spurtacular]

It's very similar to gerrymandering. One side wants to change the rules to give themselves a better chance to win. It's not about fairness at all.

https://media.tenor.com/images/2471223a15cb733043df50dfcdd6f159/tenor.gif

[Spurtacular]

Actually I think that would be a slippery slope. But if you want to get rid of the Electoral College and go straight to a popular vote aren't you removing the state's power to represent itself to the federal government?

Will of the people and all that, ya know?

[DMC]

Candidates still want to get as many votes as possible. It’s not like republicans are actively asking their voters in New York to stay home

the reason i want the EC abolished is that it’s main distinction from a national popular vote is the potential to override the will of the people

It's not true that candidates look for every vote they can get. They look for every electoral vote they can get. That's why certain candidates don't spend a lot of time campaigning in states that they know they can't win even if they would get more individual votes. Maybe I don't understand what you were saying but it doesn't make any sense to me.

This is why they campaign in swing states.

[ElNono]

Candidates still want to get as many votes as possible. It’s not like republicans are actively asking their voters in New York to stay home

the reason i want the EC abolished is that it’s main distinction from a national popular vote is the potential to override the will of the people

You made your point clear as a day, and I concur. There’s clearly other non-democratic representation problems that should also be adjusted to the current reality as a nation, such as representation numbers in the Senate. We’re clearly not the same country we were centuries ago.

None of that is happening any time soon, tbh, but nonetheless it’s a valid point.

Obviously, the not-so-popular will push back, usually with an inordinate amount of excuses instead of the actual fact that best way to actually affect democracy in a positive way is to slowly reinvent themselves to become more popular. New ideas, spearheading new causes, etc.

All that said, it’s just about equally important that there’s alternation of power for a robust democracy, but one would hope it comes from such new ideas instead of inadequate representation.

[DMC]

Will of the people and all that, ya know?
It's funny because for the eight years that Obama was President I don't recall anyone pushing to abolish the electoral college.

[ElNono]

Why do you support electronic voting and defy voter ID laws if you're so concerned about the will of the people?

I’m game with paper ballots and a paper trail. I’m not a fan of the current digital security employed by the companies in charge. I much rather have a company like Amazon, Google or Microsoft running those systems.

I’m also not opposed to Voter ID as long as it’s regulated federally not to create a burden on the voters, monetarily or otherwise (at least 2 year notice, country-wide application, no-cost to the citizen, at least 12 year non-expiration, would replace the need for voter registration and voter purges, would be automatically updated from other government databases, such as death notification, changes of address, etc). It really doesn’t solve any perceived problem, as voter fraud is factually almost non-existent and heavily prosecuted, as this administration found out, but nonetheless, if it meets at least all those conditions above, it wouldn’t necessarily hurt either.

[Spurtacular]

:lol ElNono To Lite

https://images.amcnetworks.com/ifc.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Lucille-Bluth-Arrested-Development-GIF.gif

[ElNono]

It's funny because for the eight years that Obama was President I don't recall anyone pushing to abolish the electoral college.

I did mention it, IIRC. Before Obama too. Heck, I’m pretty sure there was conversation about it in the Gore days.

[ElNono]

This is all grandstanding. Until the obvious existing subversions to democracy are fixed, nobody but the partisans gives credence to the idea that EC is so unfair.

I don’t think it’s completely unfair. However, it’s undeniably less democratic than a popular vote, which was the point presented. As I said, largely academic due to the current political realities.

And don’t even hint this has anything to do with the current POTUS, I was first in line here defending he won fair and square.

[ChumpDumper]

I did mention it, IIRC. Before Obama too. Heck, I’m pretty sure there was conversation about it in the Gore days.:lol these idiots.

No wonder they support Trump.

[ElNono]

I’m sure DMC will let me know if I’m wrong. I’m also 1000% sure boutons ranted about it non-stop post Trump election.

[Spurtacular]

However, it’s undeniably less democratic than a popular vote

With all the direct voter fraud, I don't think it's undeniable at all.

Again, fix the rigors before you cry that it could be more perfect.

[ChumpDumper]

With all the direct voter fraudAh, show us all this documented fraud you're talking about.

Or fold.

[Spurtacular]

Chump making demands in pursuit of tiny w's. Par.
Preemptively comforting himself, too. Par.

[ElNono]

With all the direct voter fraud, I don't think it's undeniable at all.

Again, fix the rigors before you cry that it could be more perfect.

We’ve gone through this song and dance many times, and it always ends up the same: you can’t back up that claim. So I’ll agree to disagree again until you actually can back it up.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump making demands in pursuit of tiny w's. Par.I'm asking you to back up your claim about "all the direct voter fraud."

Why make a claim just to immediately fold?

[Spurtacular]

I'm asking you to back up your claim about "all the direct voter fraud."

Why make a claim just to immediately fold?

I don't care and you know I don't care. You need a fake tiny w.

[Spurtacular]

We’ve gone through this song and dance many times, and it always ends up the same: you can’t back up that claim. So I’ll agree to disagree again until you actually can back it up.

I do the math; you don't (or Im sure you do, but it's an inconvenient math to admit, so you don't). Democrats wouldn't be so vehemently against voter ID laws if they weren't benefiting from the fraud. The lack of accountability in our current electronic systems are there for a reason. There are plenty of videos out there that detail instances of impropriety as well. None of this means I want to go searching for links for you; you're willfully ignorant; it's what you do. Don't feel bad; you're not alone. It's pretty much the signature move of a chumpette. I only give you a hard time b/c you strike me as a person who ought to know about it unlike the other lowlifes.

[Splits]

Getting rid of the electoral college would require a Constitutional Amendment and in this day and age it’s politically not possible. Warren or whoever else makes such promises is full of shit.

Not true: https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

[boutons_deux]

The EC electing 2 NPV-losing Repugs is obviously why the Repugs, increasingly demographic losers, will get $100Ms from their financiers to kill the NPV program.

The fucked-up, archaic Constitution, now fully weaponized by the Repugs/oligarchy, will remain in force for decades.

MORE likely because it's way ahead in state-support than NPV is an Article V Convention of States, pushed by red states with oligarchy financing, which is now supported by 28 states of 34 (2/3) needed.

https://www.commoncause.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/BBA.png

Article V promoters are mainly saying a convention would be about specific issues, eg balanced budget so loved by conservatives, but in fact the entire Constitution could be voided and replaced, ending America's myth that it is a democracy and formalizing ownership and operation to the oligarchy.

=========

States Likely Could Not Control Constitutional Convention on Balanced Budget Amendment or Other Issues

https://www.cbpp.org/research/states-likely-could-not-control-constitutional-convention-on-balanced-budget-amendment-or (https://www.cbpp.org/research/states-likely-could-not-control-constitutional-convention-on-balanced-budget-amendment-or)

============

U.S. Constitution Threatened as Article V Convention Movement Nears Success

https://www.commoncause.org/resource/u-s-constitution-threatened-as-article-v-convention-movement-nears-success/ (https://www.commoncause.org/resource/u-s-constitution-threatened-as-article-v-convention-movement-nears-success/)

[ChumpDumper]

I don't care and you know I don't care.I know you don't care about your made-up voter fraud.

Nice of you to finally admit it.:tu

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1213894201953464320?s=19

[ElNono]

Not true: https://www.nationalpopularvote.com/

That doesn’t eliminate the electoral college, it tries to work around it by having delegates pledge to vote for the most-vote-getter. Actual elimination of the electoral college requires a constitutional amendment.

[ElNono]

I do the math; you don't (or Im sure you do, but it's an inconvenient math to admit, so you don't). Democrats wouldn't be so vehemently against voter ID laws if they weren't benefiting from the fraud. The lack of accountability in our current electronic systems are there for a reason. There are plenty of videos out there that detail instances of impropriety as well. None of this means I want to go searching for links for you; you're willfully ignorant; it's what you do. Don't feel bad; you're not alone. It's pretty much the signature move of a chumpette. I only give you a hard time b/c you strike me as a person who ought to know about it unlike the other lowlifes.

Yeah, that’s a lot of words to say you can’t back it up. Didn’t think so.

[Splits]

That doesn’t eliminate the electoral college, it tries to work around it by having delegates pledge to vote for the most-vote-getter. Actual elimination of the electoral college requires a constitutional amendment.

Same effect.

[ElNono]

Same effect.

True, however, there’s some legal questions related to all these workarounds, including ranked choice too. I suppose we’ll know soon enough once a delegate reneges on the pledge.

[Spurtacular]

Yeah, that’s a lot of words to say you can’t back it up. Didn’t think so.

Yea, that's simple math you ignore.

Willfully ignorant.

[Winehole23]

Uh, that's not math, it's mostly inference

[Spurtacular]

Ankle biter Blakehole looking to split hairs.

[Spurtacular]

https://twitter.com/seanhannity/status/1213894201953464320?s=19

Commie Cuck's dream is Gov Mart.

[ChumpDumper]

Yea, that's simple math you ignore.

Willfully ignorant.Show us your math.

[Spurtacular]

https://media2.giphy.com/media/SDkwQeppxqUMw/giphy.gif

[ChumpDumper]

derp folds

[DMC]

mouse humpin mouse

:lol accurate

[ChumpDumper]

:lol accurate:lol you folded worse than derp today. Now keep commenting about me while saying you are ignoring me.

[ElNono]

Yea, that's simple math you ignore.

Willfully ignorant.

That's not math, that's connecting imaginary dots. Again, same old song and dance.

[Spurtacular]

That's not math, that's connecting imaginary dots. Again, same old song and dance.

:cry Dems embargo against voter ID laws just because :cry

[ElNono]

:cry Dems embargo against voter ID laws just because :cry

What's the embargo? Voter ID laws have been implemented in a number of States (primarily GOP legislatures), and in the large majority of cases, struck down in court because they primarily disenfranchised voters. Plenty of cases to cite.

BTW, not only this administration had a commission to investigate voter fraud, which didn't find anything, it controlled both chambers of Congress for a whole two years. Could've easily passed a federal voter ID law in that time, but did not.

Again, your connecting the dots is not only pure unsupported paranoia, it's chock full of confirmation bias.

I'll be the first to admit I was wrong once you back up your claim.

[DMC]

I did mention it, IIRC. Before Obama too. Heck, I’m pretty sure there was conversation about it in the Gore days.
I mean in Washington

[spurraider21]

You made your point clear as a day, and I concur. There’s clearly other non-democratic representation problems that should also be adjusted to the current reality as a nation, such as representation numbers in the Senate. We’re clearly not the same country we were centuries ago.

None of that is happening any time soon, tbh, but nonetheless it’s a valid point.

Obviously, the not-so-popular will push back, usually with an inordinate amount of excuses instead of the actual fact that best way to actually affect democracy in a positive way is to slowly reinvent themselves to become more popular. New ideas, spearheading new causes, etc.

All that said, it’s just about equally important that there’s alternation of power for a robust democracy, but one would hope it comes from such new ideas instead of inadequate representation.
representation issue of the senate, which we've also discussed in this forum, also contributes to the EC shitshow

[spurraider21]

That doesn’t eliminate the electoral college, it tries to work around it by having delegates pledge to vote for the most-vote-getter. Actual elimination of the electoral college requires a constitutional amendment.
yeah, constitution gives the state legislatures leeway as far as how to decide electoral votes... what splits is talking about is basically asking the states to basically unanimously agree to commit to a popular vote. doesnt seem much easier than amending the constitution imo

[Blake]

We’ve gone through this song and dance many times, and it always ends up the same: you can’t back up that claim. So I’ll agree to disagree again until you actually can back it up.

Said by many people many times to derp.

[ElNono]

I mean in Washington

I don't know many people in DC right now talking about that (Warren campaign notwithstanding).

[Spurtacular]

What's the embargo? Voter ID laws have been implemented in a number of States (primarily GOP legislatures), and in the large majority of cases, struck down in court because they primarily disenfranchised voters. Plenty of cases to cite.

BTW, not only this administration had a commission to investigate voter fraud, which didn't find anything, it controlled both chambers of Congress for a whole two years. Could've easily passed a federal voter ID law in that time, but did not.

Again, your connecting the dots is not only pure unsupported paranoia, it's chock full of confirmation bias.

I'll be the first to admit I was wrong once you back up your claim.

DMV could easily do provisional voter IDs for free at a minimal cost to the taxpayer. Practical solutions exist. Dems want their fake votes. Come to terms.

[spurraider21]

DMV could easily do provisional voter IDs for free at a minimal cost to the taxpayer. Practical solutions exist. Dems want their fake votes. Come to terms.
i think you'd get a lot less opposition if this was part of the proposal, as well as a reasonable notice period. i also think general election should be a national holiday

it comes down to a balancing act between inconveniencing or even disenfranchising voters vs tackling a problem that quite frankly is virtually insignificant in scope. throwing the baby out with the bathwater, etc

[ElNono]

Yup, what SR21 said. I actually had a post a few years ago when this topic came about (it always comes about when elections are near), basically stating the same thing. I don't particularly have a problem with Voter ID laws, as long as there's no cost to the voter associated with them and voters are notified well in advance.

The problem is, that's almost never the case. Thus why courts, not Democrats, keep striking them down.

[spurraider21]

ie is it worth enacting a requirement that could prevent 10 citizens from voting for the purpose of preventing 2 people from committing voter fraud? (numbers not to scale, i havent read any recent analysis about how many people would actually be disenfranchised... though we know the numbers for actual voter fraud are next to zero)

[Spurtacular]

i think you'd get a lot less opposition if this was part of the proposal, as well as a reasonable notice period. i also think general election should be a national holiday

it comes down to a balancing act between inconveniencing or even disenfranchising voters vs tackling a problem that quite frankly is virtually insignificant in scope. throwing the baby out with the bathwater, etc

I'm not for disenfranchising; but I'm not for the watering down of the word either. Make early voting more possible, etc. But there's no excuse for all these open doors for voter fraud.

[DMC]

I don't know many people in DC right now talking about that (Warren campaign notwithstanding).

Warren is polling better than most.

[spurraider21]

Warren is polling better than most.
and? :lol

[spurraider21]

warren has discussed that position

she's polling at ~15%

that means that discussion is being had by people in DC?

:lol

[DMC]

and? :lol

Are you in the discussion now or just a drive by?

[DMC]

Efforts to overhaul the Electoral College, one of the oldest institutions in the U.S. political system, are ramping up as the country moves into the 2020 presidential election cycle.

Critics have called the Electoral College antidemocratic after the College decided two of the past five presidential elections. George W. Bush and Donald Trump both lost the national popular vote in their respective elections in 2000 and 2016, but went on to become president.

On Tuesday, Senate Democrats, led by Hawaii Sen. Brian Schatz, and with support from Democratic Sens. Dick Durbin of Illinois, Dianne Feinstein of California and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York—also a 2020 presidential contender—introduced a constitutional amendment to do away with the institution altogether.

But why do they want to abolish it? Here’s what you need to know.

https://fortune.com/2019/04/02/abolish-the-electoral-college-votes/

Yes the discussion is being had.

Phil:lol

[spurraider21]

Efforts to overhaul the Electoral College, one of the oldest institutions in the U.S. political system, are ramping up as the country moves into the 2020 presidential election cycle.

Critics have called the Electoral College antidemocratic after the College decided two of the past five presidential elections. George W. Bush and Donald Trump both lost the national popular vote in their respective elections in 2000 and 2016, but went on to become president.

On Tuesday, Senate Democrats, led by Hawaii Sen. Brian Schatz, and with support from Democratic Sens. Dick Durbin of Illinois, Dianne Feinstein of California and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York—also a 2020 presidential contender—introduced a constitutional amendment to do away with the institution altogether.

But why do they want to abolish it? Here’s what you need to know.

https://fortune.com/2019/04/02/abolish-the-electoral-college-votes/

Yes the discussion is being had.

Phil:lol
you directly linked it to warren's poll numbers, not me :lol

you could have just looked something up earlier instead of throwing that shit on the wall in the first place

[DMC]

you directly linked it to warren's poll numbers, not me :lol

you could have just looked something up earlier instead of throwing that shit on the wall in the first place

This is what happens when you butt in without knowing the conversation.

I said I was referring to Washington DC. El Nono said only Warren was supporting it. I mentioned her polling because she's not a "nobody" in DC or in the election. Then you pretended DC wasn't discussing it. I showed you they are.

You caught up yet?

You could have entered the conversation with more class instead of being an asshole, but you didn't.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao DMC whining about "class"

[spurraider21]

This is what happens when you butt in without knowing the conversation.

I said I was referring to Washington DC. El Nono said only Warren was supporting it. I mentioned her polling because she's not a "nobody" in DC or in the election. Then you pretended DC wasn't discussing it. I showed you they are.

You caught up yet?

You could have entered the conversation with more class instead of being an asshole, but you didn't.
:lmao who called warren a nobody?

i was following along. you threw out her polling and it made no sense in the context of the conversation

[DMC]

and? :lol


warren has discussed that position

she's polling at ~15%

that means that discussion is being had by people in DC?

:lol


:lmao who called warren a nobody?

i was following along. you threw out her polling and it made no sense in the context of the conversation

You showed your ass and got embarrassed. All that schooling and yet you have no class.

[ChumpDumper]

DMC is really salty during wartime.

[DMC]

:lol Chumpy again trying to enter the fray, pissed he's ignored :lol

[spurraider21]

You showed your ass and got embarrassed. All that schooling and yet you have no class.
det revisionist history. i mean its right there :lol

you brought up warren's poll numbers and i pointed out that it was nonsense to draw any correlation from that. now you're upset about it.

[DMC]

det revisionist history. i mean its right there :lol

you brought up warren's poll numbers and i pointed out that it was nonsense to draw any correlation from that. now you're upset about it.

It was right there before you showed your ass. You just didn't take time to read it.

I didn't bring up Warren's poll numbers to you. 5 minute rule saves face (in your case that might not be a good idea).

[spurraider21]

It was right there before you showed your ass. You just didn't take time to read it.

I didn't bring up Warren's poll numbers to you. 5 minute rule saves face (in your case that might not be a good idea).
:lol that doesnt matter. it was a stupid thing to say.

[ElNono]

Efforts to overhaul the Electoral College, one of the oldest institutions in the U.S. political system, are ramping up as the country moves into the 2020 presidential election cycle.

Critics have called the Electoral College antidemocratic after the College decided two of the past five presidential elections. George W. Bush and Donald Trump both lost the national popular vote in their respective elections in 2000 and 2016, but went on to become president.

On Tuesday, Senate Democrats, led by Hawaii Sen. Brian Schatz, and with support from Democratic Sens. Dick Durbin of Illinois, Dianne Feinstein of California and Kirsten Gillibrand of New York—also a 2020 presidential contender—introduced a constitutional amendment to do away with the institution altogether.

But why do they want to abolish it? Here’s what you need to know.

https://fortune.com/2019/04/02/abolish-the-electoral-college-votes/

Yes the discussion is being had.

Phil:lol

That’s a year old, coming out of the mid terms. There’s always rumbles one these things, but as usual, it’s more noise than action. Frankly, makes sense, there’s simply no political avenue right now for an amendment.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Chumpy again trying to enter the fray, pissed he's ignored :lol:lolHaving a grand time watching you pretend to ignore me but talking about me incessantly.:lol

[TheGreatYacht]

How neoliberal Democrats helped set the stage for Trump's war on Iran

https://youtu.be/CQ7MiughG5o


Very good piece wether you're a leftist or right-winger :tu

[MASSA]

Hm, who here has advocated attacking people for wearing MAGA hats?

You advocated that a MAGA supporter kill himself; so, I'm gonna say you.

[ChumpDumper]

You advocated that a MAGA supporter kill himself; so, I'm gonna say you.

Another derp alt.

Why so many alts?

[TheGreatYacht]

Dems Won't Abandon Losing Strategies and Centrism!

https://youtu.be/1kAVVW9gh0Y

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1215457993766133760?s=19

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1215457993766133760?s=19Yeah, that's bs, but it is illustrative of what a lot of right wingers seem to think free speech is for: protecting the right to shout n*****, n*****, n*****!

[Chris]

Yeah, that's bs

No need to add any qualifiers after this.

[FrostKing]

Yeah, that's bs, but it is illustrative of what a lot of right wingers seem to think free speech is for: protecting the right to shout n*****, n*****, n*****!
From my experience the non-blacks that use the N-word the most openly are those that engage in and consume black culture.

[FrostKing]

.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/tzVVc1Q/Screenshot-2020-01-10-03-47-00-1.png

These are the same people aggressively supporting migrants. As a significant anti-War individual myself, at least Republican irresponsibility doesn't end up on American doorsteps. I recognize the growing issue with troops returning home with PTSD etc but it is minor in comparison to the homeless

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1215457993766133760?s=19

Lmao how stupid!

[Chucho]

Yeah, that's bs, but it is illustrative of what a lot of right wingers seem to think free speech is for: protecting the right to shout n*****, n*****, n*****!


It's not right, but they have the right. Period.

What's just and moral are two separate things and you focus heavily on the morality aspect on most topics.

[ChumpDumper]

Yeah, dudes could've been charged with several other things.

[Chucho]

https://i.ibb.co/tzVVc1Q/Screenshot-2020-01-10-03-47-00-1.png

These are the same people aggressively supporting migrants. As a significant anti-War individual myself, at least Republican irresponsibility doesn't end up on American doorsteps. I recognize the growing issue with troops returning home with PTSD etc but it is minor in comparison to the homeless


As some are up in the Trump stuff, I am with the California stuff. Trump couldn't get away with half of what these pieces of shit are getting away with.

Billions and billions in additional tax revenues from unwanted additional taxes. Zero plans and accounting for that money, and add the boasting and bragging from state Demos regarding GDP and budget surpluses and it's fucking mind blowing how we're experiencing middle/lower class genocide.

California being swept under the rug by the media is fucking ponderous.

[Winehole23]

It's not right, but they have the right. Period.

What's just and moral are two separate things and you focus heavily on the morality aspect on most topics.There's a moral dimension, sure, but apart from that there's manners and sociability. Shouting n*****, n*****, n*****! is disrespectul and rude.

While it is, as you emphasized, completely legal, the speaker bears the social consequences. It's also completely legal to shun and shame racist assholes.

[Winehole23]

No need to add any qualifiers after this.I'll let you know when I need an editor for ST takes.

[Chucho]

There's a moral dimension, sure, but apart from that there's manners and sociability. Shouting n*****, n*****, n*****! is disrespectul and rude.

While it is, as you emphasized, completely legal, the speaker bears the social consequences. It's also completely legal to shun and shame racist assholes.

Of course. Blaming and shaming is what social media was created for, apparently.

[Winehole23]

What's just and moral are two separate things and you focus heavily on the morality aspect on most topics.It's striking how often conservatives these days use legality as an excuse and grouse about ethics and moral reasoning.

[Chucho]

It's striking how often conservatives these days use legality as an excuse and grouse about ethics and moral reasoning.

Really? There's no other side of the coin with this rhetoric? C'mon...

[Winehole23]

Really? There's no other side of the coin with this rhetoric? C'mon...

[Winehole23]

Really? There's no other side of the coin with this rhetoric? C'mon...I'm sure there must be, what did you have in mind?

[Winehole23]

Of course. Blaming and shaming is what social media was created for, apparently.Among other things. I'm pretty sure social propriety, shunning and shaming preexisted the internet.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1215754088295608326?s=19

[Winehole23]

https://twitter.com/PrisonPlanet/status/1215754088295608326?s=19Macron wants to cut their pensions. He also wants to cut taxes for business.

Are you against those policies, Chris?

[TheGreatYacht]

Cenk Asks His Corporate Opponent To Stop Taking Bribes (To Her Face)

https://youtu.be/Ii3ZSO4kfpY

[Winehole23]

:lmao

1216868554642903041

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1217169952135757824?s=19

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1217169952135757824?s=19
locker room talk

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1217169952135757824?s=19

Big scoop. Imagine if Project Veritas had interviewed the El Paso shooter or any other right wing terrorist, they might have saved lives.

[Winehole23]

Sex boat prankster O'Keefe strikes again

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1217169952135757824?s=191217179832246628352

[TheGreatYacht]

1217179832246628352

How dare anyone talk shit about our Lord and Savior Donald Trump :lol

[Chris]

"talking shit about MAGA"

:lmao :lmao :lmao