Alexandria ocasio Cortez is a breath of fresh air

[spurraider21]

Alright Pavlov wants on the list. Who's next?
https://thoughtuncommon.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/satan1.jpg?w=1038&h=544&crop=1

Hail satan

[Chris]

Alright, next?

[Pavlov]

Speaking of tokens....
1103780180315774978

:rollin

[Mikeanaro]

WANT TO HAVE LITTLE OCASO CORTEZITOS WITH HER!!!
USING MY DING DONG!
DING DONG! DING DONG!!!!

[Chris]

AOC goes to the conspiracy theory playbook :lol


https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1103835746845241344

[pgardn]

Say that one more time and I will add you to the ignore list with boots and Nono.

Im not in on this board squabble.

But... hail Satan... What exactly do I write and why?

[pgardn]

https://thoughtuncommon.files.wordpress.com/2016/03/satan1.jpg?w=1038&h=544&crop=1

Hail satan

Ok this...

Man I so badly want to pull on Ted Cruz neck flubber.

[DMC]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Xo2ebFD4rsY/UDq1dfECL8I/AAAAAAAAI0U/3A3IdGMRIiY/s1600/HandinCoatObama.jpg

[Chris]

Got you pg :tu Didn't read your posts anyways.

[KenMcCoy]

Were that true, then the states wherein such limits were placed would have seen lower costs, such as Texas. That hasn't happened anywhere it has been tried, strongly suggesting that the effect is not material.

I can also say that doing such thing would tend to let dangerous quacks keep practicing.

Part of my stint as an auditor was of a medical malpractice insurer, and part of that work was reading the case files for claims. Some of what I read still makes me shudder. I will spare you the graphic details.

Limit doctor liability at your own risk, quite literally.

Looks like you have some good experience in this area so I'll take your word for it. All I have is anecdotal experience s from my father who used to be a doctor. He'd always come home and talk about the rising cost of health care and the unnecessary procedures they had to do out of "an abundance of caution."

Of course he also thought he could cure Tim Duncan's plantar fasciitis by making him wear cowboy boots instead of the chanclas he'd always see him wearing. So maybe I should have taken everything he said with a grain of salt.

[pgardn]

Got you pg :tu Didn't read your posts anyways.


Then how did you finger me for exile from your satanic world?
Hint, dont answer.

And HELL yes.
I was already on the list!

[pgardn]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Xo2ebFD4rsY/UDq1dfECL8I/AAAAAAAAI0U/3A3IdGMRIiY/s1600/HandinCoatObama.jpg

Left handed.
Hes good.

[DMC]

Then how did you finger me for exile from your satanic world?
Hint, dont answer.

You were fingered?

[pgardn]

You were fingered?

Ohhhh like you dont know Mr. Prostate...

[ElNono]

Say that one more time and I will add you to the ignore list with boots and Nono.

I'm on the list.

Me

[ElNono]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Xo2ebFD4rsY/UDq1dfECL8I/AAAAAAAAI0U/3A3IdGMRIiY/s1600/HandinCoatObama.jpg

He's reaching for cigarettes, IMO...

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/AOC/status/1103848541443817472?s=19

[RandomGuy]

Say that one more time and I will add you to the ignore list with boots and Nono.

You seem shook. That amuses me. Cry some more about it.

[RandomGuy]

Looks like you have some good experience in this area so I'll take your word for it. All I have is anecdotal experience s from my father who used to be a doctor. He'd always come home and talk about the rising cost of health care and the unnecessary procedures they had to do out of "an abundance of caution."

Of course he also thought he could cure Tim Duncan's plantar fasciitis by making him wear cowboy boots instead of the chanclas he'd always see him wearing. So maybe I should have taken everything he said with a grain of salt.

I don't doubt that defensive medicine has something to do with cost increases. What I understand though, it that it isn't as much of a cost driver as some assume. It is waaay too huge of a segment of the economy to oversimplify that way.

That said, there has to be SOME explanation as to why we spend so much more on health care than other countries.

[spurraider21]

He's reaching for cigarettes, IMO...
Dijon mustard

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1104449058553229312

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1104449058553229312:lmao are you going to stop posting right wing victimhood tweets and stories now?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1104531269864419328

[Pavlov]

"suggests"

I suggest you are obsessed with her.

[pgardn]

"suggests"

I suggest you are obsessed with her.

He likes her pronounced gummage.
But only in a Christian way.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1104529639374901249

[Pavlov]

:lmao "suggests"

[FrostKing]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1104531269864419328
If White people were united it wouldn't matter what some brown chick is saying to a black interviewer. The enemy is White leftist

[pgardn]

If White people were united it wouldn't matter what some brown chick is saying to a black interviewer. The enemy is White leftist

the day of the rope...

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/BillNye/status/1104542157883432960


LOOOOOOL

[Will Hunting]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1104529639374901249
I’d say that’s a pretty spot on description of Reagan.

[Spurminator]

Chris spends another Saturday night sharing tweets about women who scare him. Appropriate, in a way.

[Will Hunting]

Chris spends another Saturday night sharing tweets about women who scare him. Appropriate, in a way.
Yeah well at least he’s not having conversations with himself the way other right wing incels on this site do.

[Chucho]

Chris acting like his "threats" of being put on his ignore list aren't a direct benefit to his psyche. He doesnt have to see everyone dumping on him now.

[Trill Clinton]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1104529639374901249

Fucc Reagan

6lIqNjC1RKU

[Will Hunting]

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/misc.php?do=whoposted&t=276763

:lol Chris having over 250 posts ITT about a person he's definitely not obsessed with

[FrostKing]

I’d say that’s a pretty spot on description of Reagan.
Blacks and browns were on the same team? What about asians?

So fucking sick of hearing and seeing (in media) about blacks. Americas glorious token they try force feeding onto every race and culture. They are your human garbage, we don't want em

[Trill Clinton]

Blacks and browns were on the same team? What about asians?

So fucking sick of hearing and seeing (in media) about blacks. Americas glorious token they try force feeding onto every race and culture. They are your human garbage, we don't want em

y'all(white supremacists) are obsessed with us

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/BillNye/status/1104542157883432960


LOOOOOOL

2 fucking frauds with no brains at all between the two of them.

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/CalliNorton/status/1104549348736684033?s=20

I remember a certain segment of the population being upset about Trump's "shit hole countries" comment. Now America is garbage. Please inform all the illegals so they can return immediately.

[Pavlov]

https://twitter.com/CalliNorton/status/1104549348736684033?s=20

I remember a certain segment of the population being upset about Trump's "shit hole countries" comment. Now America is garbage. Please inform all the illegals so they can return immediately.Man you guys are really reaching to get triggered by her these days.

[Spurs Homer]

lol

triggered by a rookie public servant -


:rollin:rollin

[ducks]

Lol at thinking she is a brush of fresh air

[ducks]

lol

triggered by a rookie public servant -


:rollin:rollinlol triggered by a rookie public servant whose name
Is TRUMP

[Spurs Homer]

lol triggered by a rookie public servant whose name
Is TRUMP

Triggered is not accurate.

DISGUSTED by the traitor and criminal and life long con man - that would be accurate.

[ducks]

Triggered is not accurate.

DISGUSTED by the traitor and criminal and life long con man - that would be accurate.do you think the economy is a con to when he is president ?
Do you think lowest Hispanic and black unemployment ever under this “racist “ president ever according to you a con?

[ducks]

Former president wife got 4.9 billion for her project
Trump daughter project 100 million

[Spurs Homer]

do you think the economy is a con to when he is president ?
Do you think lowest Hispanic and black unemployment ever under this “racist “ president ever according to you a con?


FOX news will destroy your brain cells - wait -

nevermind -

just do what you do!

:lmao:lmao

[ducks]

I watch as much cnn as fox news

[Trill Clinton]

do you think the economy is a con to when he is president ?
Do you think lowest Hispanic and black unemployment ever under this “racist “ president ever according to you a con?

I think a lot of that has to do with Obama. The wealth gap between whites and everyone else is still way too large and the median wealth of blacks is below the poverty level. How will your president fix this?

[ducks]

I think a lot of that has to do with Obama. The wealth gap between whites and everyone else is still way too large and the median wealth of blacks is below the poverty level. How will your president fix this?
Yeah any thing good was former president
Bad current president just like cnn tells you




If more kids had 2 parents instead of one
Kids would grow up and be more mature
The problem is drugs and alcohol and people can not say no
Or not in excess in beer

[Spurminator]

https://twitter.com/CalliNorton/status/1104549348736684033?s=20

I remember a certain segment of the population being upset about Trump's "shit hole countries" comment. Now America is garbage. Please inform all the illegals so they can return immediately.

I remember Trump actually saying "shithole countries."

I didn't see AOC call America garbage in this video. Do you even bother to watch the stuff you post before you allow yourself to get all ragey about it? Or are you just that addicted to anger?

[DarrinS]

I remember Trump actually saying "shithole countries."


You do? We're you in the room or something?

[Spurminator]

You do? We're you in the room or something?

I didn't say I heard it. I said I remember it. It's one of the few reports of Trump's buffoonery that the White House hasn't denied.

[DMC]

https://twitter.com/CalliNorton/status/1104549348736684033?s=20

I remember a certain segment of the population being upset about Trump's "shit hole countries" comment. Now America is garbage. Please inform all the illegals so they can return immediately.

I am not offended by her use of the word "garbage" but by how many times she said "like" and the upward inflection in her voice as if he's 14 years old and talking to a bff at school.

[midnightpulp]

If more kids had 2 parents instead of one
Kids would grow up and be more mature
The problem is drugs and alcohol and people can not say no
Or not in excess in beer

:lol ducks is a national treasure. That last line will be discussed by literary critics for eternity.

[Spurs Homer]

Lol

[Trill Clinton]

Yeah any thing good was former president
Bad current president just like cnn tells you




If more kids had 2 parents instead of one
Kids would grow up and be more mature
The problem is drugs and alcohol and people can not say no
Or not in excess in beer

Republicans sent millions of black fathers to prison with their war on drugs which created the single parent household. Your president also discriminated against people of color when it came to housing and he also pushed the Central Park 5 lie causing several black families to lose their men for 15 years behind a lie, shady and racist police work.

[ducks]

repAdamSchiff
has another ethics scandal as a result of his and his staff colluding with Cohen on his testimony, which was littered with lies

[pgardn]

lol triggered by a rookie public servant whose name
Is TRUMP

So how do they both serve us duckward?

One is President and the other is....
If she were president would you be upset as you are now?

[pgardn]

rep (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=5338)AdamSchiff
has another ethics scandal as a result of his and his staff colluding with Cohen on his testimony, which was littered with lies

link?

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1104871713198661634?s=20

[DMC]

Republicans sent millions of black fathers to prison with their war on drugs which created the single parent household. Your president also discriminated against people of color when it came to housing and he also pushed the Central Park 5 lie causing several black families to lose their men for 15 years behind a lie, shady and racist police work.

Obama had the power to release them all. Did he?

[Chucho]

Obama had the power to release them all. Did he?

Or even undo the 3 strikes laws that Clinton passed that kept repeat offenders longer. LOL Trill.

[ducks]

I thought people we just say no to drugs
There was is no need for a wall


Lol thinking the republicans put people in jail
Those people choice to break law and no in jail

[BD24]

2 fucking frauds with no brains at all between the two of them.
The high school dropout saying the guy that graduated with a STEM degree from Cornell has no brains :lol

[Will Hunting]

The high school dropout saying the guy that graduated with a STEM degree from Cornell has no brains :lol
:lmao

[Trill Clinton]

The high school dropout saying the guy that graduated with a STEM degree from Cornell has no brains :lol

Lmaooo

[DMC]

Or even undo the 3 strikes laws that Clinton passed that kept repeat offenders longer. LOL Trill.

Did anyone find out why millions of black fathers were selling or doing drugs to begin with? Were these things like NyQuil and Tylenol? I mean, since they were parts of family units and holding down jobs, I could see them not wanting to miss work.

[pgardn]

Did anyone find out why millions of black fathers were selling or doing drugs to begin with? Were these things like NyQuil and Tylenol? I mean, since they were parts of family units and holding down jobs, I could see them not wanting to miss work.

I've read lazy and inferior.
On this board.

Whats your take?

[koriwhat]

The high school dropout saying the guy that graduated with a STEM degree from Cornell has no brains :lol

funny how your faggot ass keeps following me around here but you wouldn't meet face to face even though you've tried passing that lie off for weeks with your butt buddy trd. keep being the weak pos that you are!

ps: dispute that timestamped photo already ya pussy!

[DMC]

I've read lazy and inferior.
On this board.

Whats your take?

It's not my place to say. I am here to learn.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1105204838390849538
https://twitter.com/benshapiro/status/1105205312120709120

Damn :lol

[BD24]

funny how your faggot ass keeps following me around here but you wouldn't meet face to face even though you've tried passing that lie off for weeks with your butt buddy trd. keep being the weak pos that you are!

ps: dispute that timestamped photo already ya pussy!
I don't follow anyone around, if you make a dumb post (which happens on a pretty frequent basis) I call you out on it.

I'm still not sure why you get upset about what someone you dont give a fuck about says tbh.

[CosmicCowboy]

Think AOC can make it through the day without criticizing Pelosi? :lol

[koriwhat]

I don't follow anyone around, if you make a dumb post (which happens on a pretty frequent basis) I call you out on it.

I'm still not sure why you get upset about what someone you dont give a fuck about says tbh.

and i find it funny that since posting that image again you have yet to recognize it and speak up against it... you're just a weak fucking bitch! lmao

[koriwhat]

I'm still not sure why you get upset about what someone you dont give a fuck about says tbh.

btw, if this is your actual line of thinking... then wtf do you give a fuck what i have to say here? it's funny how you sit here and point a finger but you're doing exactly what you're speaking of. projection is a hell of a thing for a pussy like yourself.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1105218248029728769

:corn:

[pgardn]

It's not my place to say. I am here to learn.

Poverty is a pretty good predictor in the US.

There also may be some cultural influences that add to it.

[BD24]

Joey upset per par :lol

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1105270763693600768

[ducks]

Think AOC can make it through the day without criticizing Pelosi? :lol

[ducks]

Poverty is a pretty good predictor in the US.

There also may be some cultural influences that add to it.tons of grants out there
Get off their asses and look

[Winehole23]

Practical equality of opportunity for all citizens, when we achieve it, will have two great results. First, every man will have a fair chance to make of himself all that in him lies; to reach the highest point to which his capacities, unassisted by special privilege of his own and unhampered by the special privilege of others, can carry him, and to get for himself and his family substantially what he has earned. Second, equality of opportunity means that the commonwealth will get from every citizen the highest service of which he is capable. No man who carries the burden of the special privileges of another can give to the commonwealth that service to which it is fairly entitled.

I stand for the square deal. But when I say that I am for the square deal, I mean not merely that I stand for fair play under the present rules of the games, but that I stand for having those rules changed so as to work for a more substantial equality of opportunity and of reward for equally good service. One word of warning, which, I think, is hardly necessary in Kansas. When I say I want a square deal for the poor man, I do not mean that I want a square deal for the man who remains poor because he has not got the energy to work for himself. If a man who has had a chance will not make good, then he has got to quit. And you men of the Grand Army, you want justice for the brave man who fought, and punishment for the coward who shirked his work. Is not that so?

Now, this means that our government, national and State, must be freed from the sinister influence or control of special interests. Exactly as the special interests of cotton and slavery threatened our political integrity before the Civil War, so now the great special business interests too often control and corrupt the men and methods of government for their own profit. We must drive the special interests out of politics. That is one of our tasks to-day. Every special interest is entitled to justice - full, fair, and complete - and, now, mind you, if there were any attempt by mob-violence to plunder and work harm to the special interest, whatever it may be, and I most dislike and the wealthy man, whomsoever he may be, for whom I have the greatest contempt, I would fight for him, and you would if you were worth your salt. He should have justice. For every special interest is entitled to justice, but not one is entitled to a vote in Congress, to a voice on the bench, or to representation in any public office. The Constitution guarantees protections to property, and we must make that promise good But it does not give the right of suffrage to any corporation. The true friend of property, the true conservative, is he who insists that property shall be the servant and not the master of the commonwealth; who insists that the creature of man's making shall be the servant and not the master of the man who made it. The citizens of the United States must effectively control the mighty commercial forces which they have themselves called into being.

There can be no effective control of corporations while their political activity remains. To put an end to it will be neither a short nor an easy task, but it can be done.

[Winehole23]

We must have complete and effective publicity of corporate affairs, so that people may know beyond peradventure whether the corporations obey the law and whether their management entitles them to the confidence of the public. It is necessary that laws should be passed to prohibit the use of corporate funds directly or indirectly for political purposes; it is still more necessary that such laws should be thoroughly enforced. Corporate expenditures for political purposes, and especially such expenditures by public-service corporations, have supplied one of the principal sources of corruption in our political affairs.


It has become entirely clear that we must have government supervision of the capitalization, not only of public-service corporations, including, particularly, railways, but of all corporations doing an interstate business. I do not wish to see the nation forced into the ownership of the railways if it can possibly be avoided, and the only alternative is thoroughgoing and effective regulation, which shall be based on a full knowledge of all the facts, including a physical valuation of property. This physical valuation is not needed, or, at least, is very rarely needed, for fixing rates; but it is needed as the basis of honest capitalization.


We have come to recognize that franchises should never be granted except for a limited time, and never without proper provision for compensation to the public. It is my personal belief that the same kind and degree of control and supervision which should be exercised over public-service corporations should be extended also to combinations which control necessaries of life, such as meat, oil, and coal, or which deal in them on an important scale.

[Winehole23]

The absence of effective State, and, especially, national, restraint upon unfair money-getting has tended to create a small class of enormously wealthy and economically powerful men, whose chief object is to hold and increase their power. The prime need is to change the conditions which enable these men to accumulate power which is not for the general welfare that they should hold or exercise. We grudge no man a fortune which represents his own power and sagacity, when exercised with entire regard to the welfare of his fellows. Again, comrades over there, take the lesson from your own experience. Not only did you not grudge, but you gloried in the promotion of the great generals who gained their promotion by leading the army to victory. So it is with us. We grudge no man a fortune in civil life if it is honorably obtained and well used. It is not even enough that it should have gained without doing damage to the community. We should permit it to be gained only so long as the gaining represents benefit to the community. This, I know, implies a policy of a far more active governmental interference with social and economic conditions in this country than we have yet had, but I think we have got to face the fact that such an increase in governmental control is now necessary.

[Winehole23]

The people of the United States suffer from periodical financial panics to a degree substantially unknown among the other nations which approach us in financial strength. There is no reason why we should suffer what they escape. It is of profound importance that our financial system should be promptly investigated, and so thoroughly and effectively revised as to make it certain that hereafter our currency will no longer fail at critical times to meet our needs.

[Winehole23]

Of conservation I shall speak more at length elsewhere. Conservation means development as much as it does protection. I recognize the right and duty of this generation to develop and use the natural resources of our land; but I do not recognize the right to waste them, or to rob, by wasteful use, the generations that come after us. I ask nothing of the nation except that it so behave as each farmer here behaves with reference to his own children. That farmer is a poor creature who skins the land and leaves it worthless to his children. The farmer is a good farmer who, having enabled the land to support himself and to provide for the education of his children leaves it to them a little better than he found it himself. I believe the same thing of a nation.


Moreover, I believe that the natural resources must be used for the benefit of all our people, and not monopolized for the benefit of the few, and here again is another case in which I am accused of taking a revolutionary attitude. People forget now that one hundred years ago there were public men of good character who advocated the nation selling its public lands in great quantities, so that the nation could get the most money out of it, and giving it to the men who could cultivate it for their own uses. We took the proper democratic ground that the land should be granted in small sections to the men who were actually to till it and live on it. Now, with the water-power with the forests, with the mines, we are brought face to face with the fact that there are many people who will go with us in conserving the resources only if they are to be allowed to exploit them for their benefit. That is one of the fundamental reasons why the special interest should be driven out of politics. Of all the questions which can come before this nation, short of the actual preservation of its existence in a great war, there is none which compares in importance with the great central task of leaving this land even a better land for our descendants than it is for us, and training them into a better race to inhabit the land and pass it on. Conservation is a great moral issue for it involves the patriotic duty of insuring the safety and continuance of the nation. Let me add that the health and vitality of our people are at least as well worth conserving as their forests, waters, lands, and minerals, and in this great work the national government must bear a most important part.

[Winehole23]

http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/site/c.elKSIdOWIiJ8H/b.9274069/k.393/The_New_Nationalism.htm

[RandomGuy]

http://www.theodoreroosevelt.org/site/c.elKSIdOWIiJ8H/b.9274069/k.393/The_New_Nationalism.htm

Cool. (bookmarks) One of those things I wish was on youtube so I could listen to it on the commute home.

[SpursforSix]

Cool. (bookmarks) One of those things I wish was on youtube so I could listen to it on the commute home.

It is on YouTube silly.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1105577041494069248

[Winehole23]

TR compares conservation of nature to warfare, I wonder where AOC got the idea.

[Nathan89]

AFL-CIO: Green New Deal Will ‘Cause Immediate Harm to Millions’

“We welcome the call for labor rights and dialogue with labor, but the Green New Deal resolution is far too short on specific solutions that speak to the jobs of our members and the critical sections of our economy,” reads the letter, which was signed by ten national labor unions on the AFL-CIO’s energy committee. “We will not accept proposals that could cause immediate harm to millions of our members and their families. We will not stand by and allow threats to our members’ jobs and their families’ standard of living go [sic] unanswered.”

https://news.yahoo.com/amphtml/afl-cio-green-deal-cause-170712186.html

[Winehole23]

Lol libertarian crocodile tears for labor unions

[Winehole23]

The TR program was derided in its own time as overly socialistic. The AOC propaganda is much tamer by comparison, she hardly touches monopolies.

The only current candidate who's even half as radical as TR is Elizabeth Warren, though she pretends not to be: she does the low-key radical thing.

[ducks]

https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/53698428_2809600559057957_3626256641952841728_o.jp g?_nc_cat=1&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ht=scontent-lax3-1.xx&oh=653bfbc3b79cfe496a70aafe6815d755&oe=5D0F9BE4

[Winehole23]

The TR program was derided in its own time as overly socialistic. The AOC propaganda is much tamer by comparison, she hardly touches monopolies.

The only current candidate who's even half as radical as TR is Elizabeth Warren, though she pretends not to be: she does the low-key radical thing.No replies to this besides RG.

Skeered to admit AOC isn’t as radical as TR from 110 years ago?

[TSA]

No replies to this besides RG.

Skeered to admit AOC isn’t as radical as TR from 110 years ago?

She’s dumber than she is radical.

[Winehole23]

She’s dumber than she is radical.She's smarter than you, by far.

[Chris]

You won’t believe the new accusations of who’s behind Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and who’s pulling the strings America.

According to the YouTube show Mr. Reagan, there are multiple people pulling the strings, but the person really running the show is Saikat Chakrabarti, a former Bernie Sanders operative.

Chakrabarti is the co founder of the Justice Democrats. But wait until you hear who’s actually behind the Justice Democrats. It will blow your mind and scare the hell out of you.

1h5iv6sECGU


Saikat was her campaign manager, but he doesn’t have the charisma to run for office himself. He’s got some terrifying political influences and is suspected of committing some serious campaign finances.

But wait, there’s more. The person who hired Siakat Chakrabarti to run the Justice Democrats is none other than Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks.

The Justice Democrats were heavily promoted on the Young Turks programs, and Cenk has been saying for quite some time as this video shows that they have to “take over the Democratic party.”

Cenk says we have to “board the Democratic ship and take it over.”

This is the most bombshell video to date on who’s pulling the strings on the likes of not only Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, but Ilhan Omar, Rashida Tlaib, and others that the group helped get elected.

This should scare the hell out of each and every red blooded American who values life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. Watch the video, share the video and this article, and get the word out America.

https://thedcpatriot.com/2019/03/11/watch-whos-the-brains-behind-aoc-video/

[Pavlov]

AOC is making fake conservatives a whole lot of money.

[Spurminator]

Chris posts this shocking news as though he's never heard of Steve Bannon.

[Chris]

1h5iv6sECGU
Nathan DarrinS CosmicCowboy

This is a must watch for what's happening to the Democrat Party.

[DMC]

Poverty is a pretty good predictor in the US.

There also may be some cultural influences that add to it.

I'm here to learn, but not from you.

[pgardn]

I'm here to learn, but not from you.

No worries.

I understand.
Keep reading off that wind speed in Braille.

[Spurminator]

Nathan (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=50626) DarrinS (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=2042) CosmicCowboy (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=207)

Please be my friends and validate my paranoid obsessions

[Pavlov]

Nathan DarrinS CosmicCowboy

Have you heard of Q and The Great Awakening?

[ElNono]

Nathan DarrinS CosmicCowboy

Satanists, Satanists everywhere!

[Will Hunting]

:lmao

[Chris]

You know it's good stuff when the troll squad does a mass shit post.

[RandomGuy]

According to the YouTube show


:lmao

Stopped reading right there. Nothing good ever follows that.

[RandomGuy]

You know it's good stuff when the troll squad does a mass shit post.

You shit yourself. We're all telling you that you shit your bed.

Keep rolling around in it. It's funny.

Sad and funny.

[RandomGuy]

AOC is making fake conservatives a whole lot of money.

Who's behind AOC?

Could it be... SATAN?! (clutches pearls) :lmao

[RandomGuy]

TR compares conservation of nature to warfare, I wonder where AOC got the idea.

Her response was: if a bartender serves a drunk person another drink, the bartender is held responsible. That tactic works.

[Chris]

You shit yourself. We're all telling you that you shit your bed.

Keep rolling around in it. It's funny.

Sad and funny.

lol "we"

lol claiming membership in the troll squad

[Chris]

Stopped reading right there.

That cognitive dissonance thingy.

[Spurminator]

You know it's good stuff when the troll squad does a mass shit post.

You know it's good stuff when you post it twice and no one watches it or gives you any feedback.

[koriwhat]

You know it's good stuff when you post it twice and no one watches it or gives you any feedback.

yall love fake reps who are propped up by PR firms. :tu

[RandomGuy]

Holy shit AOC fucking destroyed Wilbur Ross, who sounded like he needed a nap. Jesus.

[RandomGuy]

clHfmYTrOVY

Wilbur Ross, what a fucking old ass piece of shit.

Trump administration has gotten away with lying and breaking the law for two years. She zeroed in on the specific way they broke the law and Ross had to be rescued by one of his lawyers to try and pull his nuts out of the vice.

I can see why Republicans are so desperate to destroy her. She is too effective.

[Winehole23]

Wilbur Ross would be a five alarm scandal in any other administration.

In Trump's he's just another white dude doing a great job.

[RandomGuy]

Wilbur Ross would be a five alarm scandal in any other administration.

In Trump's he's just another white dude doing a great job.

Shoot, it was either Ross or Munchkin that seemed to get pinched by a journalist for doing insider trading. (think it was Ross) Fuck, it is hard to keep the criminals straight at this point.

[Spurs Homer]

clHfmYTrOVY

Wilbur Ross, what a fucking old ass piece of shit.

Trump administration has gotten away with lying and breaking the law for two years. She zeroed in on the specific way they broke the law and Ross had to be rescued by one of his lawyers to try and pull his nuts out of the vice.

I can see why Republicans are so desperate to destroy her. She is too effective.


:lmao:lmao:lmao


He just perjured himself: He testified that he DID comply - and AOC says that the RECORD shows that he DID NOT comply - He VIOLATED THE LAW -

SO -

Cummings - is on the ball - because he is making him write a STATEMENT UNDER OATH - of this LIE!!!

Cummings got his eye on the ball - I underestimated him!

[RandomGuy]

:lmao:lmao:lmao


He just perjured himself: He testified that he DID comply - and AOC says that the RECORD shows that he DID NOT comply - He VIOLATED THE LAW -

SO -

Cummings - is on the ball - because he is making him write a STATEMENT UNDER OATH - of this LIE!!!

Cummings got his eye on the ball - I underestimated him!

Cummings is sharper than many give him credit for. Watching him wrangle this has been fun as the Trump party flails like nincompoops.

[RandomGuy]

Wilbur Ross would be a five alarm scandal in any other administration.

In Trump's he's just another white dude doing a great job.

Boobytrap spelled backwards is partyboob. Random thought of the day completely unrelated to your post.

[Spurs Homer]

Wilbur Ross: "I have no need to respond"


:lmao:lmao


Imagine one of Obama's cabinet answering under oath in this manner!

[RandomGuy]

You do? We're you in the room or something?

clHfmYTrOVY

You think your commerce secretary fared well here?

:lmao best people

What's your take on his potential insider trading?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/danalexander/2018/06/18/lies-china-and-putin-solving-the-mystery-of-wilbur-ross-missing-fortune-trump-commerce-secretary-cabinet-conflicts-of-interest/

[DMC]

Boobytrap spelled backwards is partyboob. Random thought of the day completely unrelated to your post.

Boss spelled backwards is double-S O B

[DMC]

:lmao:lmao:lmao


He just perjured himself: He testified that he DID comply - and AOC says that the RECORD shows that he DID NOT comply - He VIOLATED THE LAW -

SO -

Cummings - is on the ball - because he is making him write a STATEMENT UNDER OATH - of this LIE!!!

Cummings got his eye on the ball - I underestimated him!

All caps guy is here screaming at the forum again.

Your daddy Boots is taking notes.

So you think writing a statement down, that you made under oath, that you're not violating the law... :lol somehow creates more jeopardy for the witness?

[Spurs Homer]

All caps guy is here screaming at the forum again.

Your daddy Boots is taking notes.

Sensitive trumper!

[DMC]

Sensitive trumper!

That's it. Create a cool dichotomy so you can feel more justified in screaming your opinions and wishcasting at the interwebs you fucktard.

[RandomGuy]

Boss spelled backwards is double-S O B

Indeed it is.

[Spurs Homer]

All caps guy is here screaming at the forum again.

Your daddy Boots is taking notes.

So you think writing a statement down, that you made under oath, that you're not violating the law... :lol somehow creates more jeopardy for the witness?

Did you pay attention to the video?

He lied under oath.

Cummings asked him to clarify or answer the question.

He repeated his lie.

Cummings said : Write a statement - you are still under oath.

That statement is his confirming that he lied under oath.

[DMC]

Did you pay attention to the video?

He lied under oath.

Cummings asked him to clarify or answer the question.

He repeated his lie.

Cummings said : Write a statement - you are still under oath.

That statement is his confirming that he lied under oath.

:lol gas lighting "did you watch the video"

Of course I watched it, retard. If he lied under oath, the very process of proving that would be all that was required, no written statement required. That's what "under oath" provides.

[Chris]

Lying her ass off again.


https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1106605134849568768

What a piece of shit.

[koriwhat]

Lying her ass off again.


https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1106605134849568768

What a piece of shit.

i'm down with banning all the other 90%!

[clambake]

lol

[Chris]

AOC: "What good are thoughts and prayers?"


https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1106420137534652418

[Pavlov]

AOC: "What good are thoughts and prayers?"


https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1106420137534652418:lol not an attack

[spurraider21]

AOC: "What good are thoughts and prayers?"


https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1106420137534652418
:lmao "attacked"

[Will Hunting]

AOC: "What good are thoughts and prayers?"


https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1106420137534652418
Even by "Republicans trying to find dirt on AOC" standards, this is reaching :lol

[koriwhat]

AOC: "What good are thoughts and prayers?"


https://twitter.com/CalebJHull/status/1106420137534652418

i read a comment that was spot on... "what's her view on abortion being that she's a good catholic?" lmao

[Chris]

Even by "Republicans trying to find dirt on AOC" standards, this is reaching :lol

Not a reach at all. It was a direct quote. : )

[RandomGuy]

Even by "Republicans trying to find dirt on AOC" standards, this is reaching :lol

AOC derangment syndrome. As I said,they have to attack and attack and attack.

She is too smart, and too effective for them to do otherwise. Conservatives are really used to having been able to control narratives for so long that when that control starts slipping, they flip their shit.

[Chris]

i read a comment that was spot on... "what's her view on abortion being that she's a good catholic?" lmao

I don't do Catholocism, but brother she ain't no Catholic. This woman is pure evil.

[RandomGuy]

Not a reach at all. It was a direct quote. : )

Her statements were entirely supportive of religion. You are the traitor to your faith.

[Chris]

She is too smart

She's an idiot.

[Chris]

Her statements were entirely supportive of religion. You are the traitor to your faith.

Nah, you're just trolling.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1106322153731837952

[koriwhat]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1106322153731837952

she's a pawn of the ME. lmao

[Chris]

she's a pawn of the ME. lmao

That video I posted explains exactly where she's coming from. She's an actress.

[koriwhat]

That video I posted explains exactly where she's coming from. She's an actress.

she's a PR firms brain child with no brains.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1106322153731837952
umm... wasn't that exactly the point of the US revolution? take the power and wealth away from the crown and give it to the people? no taxation without representation, etc

[Chris]

umm... wasn't that exactly the point of the US revolution? take the power and wealth away from the crown and give it to the people? no taxation without representation, etc

Wealthy people \= "the crown"

Try again.

[spurraider21]

Wealthy people \= "the crown"

Try again.
i'll agree that the economic aspect is a bit more of a stretch when making that comparison, but i dont think its invalid altogether. colonists were being unfairly taxed compared to people living in england. they fought for representation (democracy) to level the playing field

[Chris]

i'll agree that the economic aspect is a bit more of a stretch when making that comparison, but i dont think its invalid altogether. colonists were being unfairly taxed compared to people living in england. they fought for representation (democracy) to level the playing field

You want to penalize people for hoarding wealth. That's absolutely ludicrous.

[Chris]

she's a PR firms brain child with no brains.

Saikat Chakrabarti and Cenk Uygur, the Council on Foreign Relations

[spurraider21]

You want to penalize people for hoarding wealth. That's absolutely ludicrous.
stimulating the economy bad now

[Winehole23]

Saikat Chakrabarti and Cenk Uygur, the Council on Foreign Relations


https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/blob:https://www.spurstalk.com/4ba9fd6a-2bf6-4807-8e8c-f229ba769627

[Chris]

CMON KIDS LETS SKIP CLASS!

https://twitter.com/MarkDice/status/1106625738428448768

[Winehole23]

Lol Chris chiding young people for seeking relief from liberal indoctrination in school.

[Chris]

"Cmon kids vote for me! We're gonna change the legal voting age to 16 and I'll upgrade your Obama phone to an iPad shipped directly from China! Once we eliminate the Electoral College we will never lose an election again! Diversity is our strength!"

[Winehole23]

Pure emotive prose.

That’s not an answer.

If 16 year olds can go to big boy jail for their actions, why can’t they vote?

Seems there are varying, more or less arbitrary, legal definitions of adult responsibility.

[Winehole23]

Would you raise the voting age back to 21?

[Winehole23]

If so, why?

[Chris]

I'm sure you were cognizant of worldly affairs and all the corruption that exists within politics at age 16. I bet you had it all figured out and knew which candidates were the good ones that aligned with your policies. So refined and mature humans beings at age 16.

[Winehole23]

So, at 18 we all magically know better?

How absurd.

[Chris]

Never said such.

[Winehole23]

So why not draw the line at at 16?

Criminal justice does.

[Chris]

I've already explained all that. I don't do circular arguments.

[Winehole23]

I've already explained all that. I don't do circular arguments.You’ve explained nothing.

What is it 18 year olds have that 16 year olds don’t?

[Winehole23]

Your argument is nothing if not circular so far.

[CosmicCowboy]

So why not draw the line at at 16?

Criminal justice does.

Why stop there? How about 12?

[spurraider21]

Why stop there? How about 12?
why set the bar so low at 18? why not 26?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1106696022724497408

[koriwhat]

You want to penalize people for hoarding wealth. That's absolutely ludicrous.

but but but if the shoe was on the other foot... amirite? lol these people are nuts aren't they buddy?

[koriwhat]

So, at 18 we all magically know better?

How absurd.

i believe voting should strictly be for ages 27+.

[Nathan89]

You’ve explained nothing.

What is it 18 year olds have that 16 year olds don’t?

The ability to be drafted. But then that's irrelevant to the special class of women.

[Chris]

but but but if the shoe was on the other foot... amirite? lol these people are nuts aren't they buddy?

Bat shit crazy. That's when the preacher is so crazy that the belfry has been overrun by bat shit from lack of use.

[DarrinS]

why set the bar so low at 18? why not 26?

That's probably better, tbh. I have an 18 year old. :lol

[Winehole23]

Why stop there? How about 12?Clearly a hard arbitrary line has to be drawn somewhere, but it's folly to pretend there's any good reason for where the line gets drawn.

It's customary, not rational.

[ducks]

Gallup Poll: Public's View of Ocasio-Cortez Plummets

[Winehole23]

i believe voting should strictly be for ages 27+.According to legend, the ancient University of Timbuktu was known among other things for allowing no one younger than 40 years old to attend, the reason being no one younger than that could possibly be learned and wise enough to contribute meaningfully to such an august institution.

[Chris]

Clearly a hard arbitrary line has to be drawn somewhere, but it's folly to pretend there's any good reason for where the line gets drawn.

It's customary, not rational.

Let's go bonkers. 5 years of age and you can vote. No ID required.

[Chris]

Just mail in your votes and you can sign them anonymous if you're uncomfortable sharing your gender.

[ducks]

If you can suck milk from your mommy you should be allowed to vote

[Winehole23]

Clearly a hard arbitrary line has to be drawn. There still isn't anyone who can explain why 18 is a suitable age if majority and 16 isn't. 16 year olds can marry and I believe they can legally divorce their parents. As previously mentioned, they can be considered adults under criminal law. Why not let them vote?

What have 18 year olds got that 16 year olds haven't?

[ducks]

2 more years experience
2 more years of school

Why not 16 year drink instead of 16 ?

[Trill Clinton]

2 more years experience
2 more years of school

Why not 16 year drink instead of 16 ?

http://i66.tinypic.com/96knyc.gif

[spurraider21]

Let's go bonkers. 5 years of age and you can vote. No ID required.
Let’s go bonkers. You have to be 45 to vote and must prove your identity with photo id, 3 years of tax returns, 5 years of proof of residence

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/prageru/status/1107042607882862592

[spurraider21]

:lmao prager u

[koriwhat]

:lmao prager u

what's wrong with dennis prager? oh i see, it's not because he's a conservative but because he's a jew.

[midnightpulp]

2 more years experience
2 more years of school

Why not 16 year drink instead of 16 ?

Beautiful poetry here. Add another to the ducks anthology.

[spurraider21]

what's wrong with dennis prager? oh i see, it's not because he's a conservative but because he's a jew.
huh?

[spurraider21]

Beautiful poetry here. Add another to the ducks anthology.
he's the GOAT at unintentional haikus

[Spurminator]

:lmao prager u

Apparently, the AOC Quote Clickbait For Conservatives market has gotten so crowded that publishers are now producing high quality graphical treatments to accompany their breaking news stories on everything she says.

[koriwhat]

it's funny how yall lefty's don't want the spotlight pointed on your lunatic reps like AOC. yall sit here and claim people are obsessed and yet 99% of MSM is covering djt's every move, yall lefty's are here crying daily about djt, and the world is going nuts just because djt beat that cunt hrc fair and square.

yall don't really care about AOC in the grand scheme of things; what yall care about is shining a light on the new dem platform and policies they want to enact when in power. hope more point out the lunacy of AOC and the dems altogether!

[midnightpulp]

it's funny how yall lefty's don't want the spotlight pointed on your lunatic reps like AOC. yall sit here and claim people are obsessed and yet 99% of MSM is covering djt's every move, yall lefty's are here crying daily about djt, and the world is going nuts just because djt beat that cunt hrc fair and square.

yall don't really care about AOC in the grand scheme of things; what yall care about is shining a light on the new dem platform and policies they want to enact when in power. hope more point out the lunacy of AOC and the dems altogether!

Some of her core ideas might unrealistic, but by no means radical (no, she doesn't want to ban air-travel, hamburgers, impose one-child policies, etc, etc). Her tax proposal (which isn't an official proposal, it was something she suggested in an interview), again, is not out of line with the tax structure we had from post-New Deal to pre-Reagan. I don't see how universal healthcare is a radical idea when every developed country on Earth implements a single-payer system with success. Yes, the Green New Deal shoots for the moon, but the fact is we do need to start addressing anthropocentric climate change sooner than later.

[A. Ocasio-Cortez]

I'm a superstar. Even the haters admit that.

[Chris]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D149X1IUgAAZ1jx.jpg:large

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1107812994870702080

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.giphy.com%2Fmedia%2Fzyin7TY oGmLAs%2Fgiphy.gif&f=1

[Pavlov]

PAC no one has ever heard of!

[midnightpulp]

Pepsi challenge for AOC critics. Explain how she is a Communist, Socialist, Marxist in the Stalin/Guevara/Venezuela tradition? Cute cartoons aren't an intellectual argument.

[DarrinS]

Pepsi challenge for AOC critics. Explain how she is a Communist, Socialist, Marxist in the Stalin/Guevara/Venezuela tradition? Cute cartoons aren't an intellectual argument.


She just a dumb puppet of "justice democrats" (lol). No explanation needed.

[Winehole23]

None given.

It isn't even a catchphrase.

[Winehole23]

If it is, DarrinS knows way more about that than I ever would

[Spurminator]

She just a dumb puppet of "justice democrats" (lol). No explanation needed.

Were it not posted by Darrin, it'd be easy to assume that this post is satirizing the AOC critics midnightpulp is referencing.

[DarrinS]

Were it not posted by Darrin, it'd be easy to assume that this post is satirizing the AOC critics midnightpulp is referencing.

She's the gift that keeps on giving, tbh.

[DarrinS]

Cow farts Cortez

[midnightpulp]

So far no objective analysis of her positions. Just the same old: "What!? She wants to raise taxes! Marxist! Rats in Venezuela!" I'll also have to reiterate that the American Right are probably the biggest "Democratic Socialists" in the modern world (quick definition of Democratic Socialism: Free market + taxes to use on government programs).

[DarrinS]

So far no objective analysis of her positions. Just the same old: "What!? She wants to raise taxes! Marxist! Rats in Venezuela!" I'll also have to reiterate that the American Right are probably the biggest "Democratic Socialists" in the modern world (quick definition of Democratic Socialism: Free market + taxes to use on government programs).



Her "positions" are here

https://www.justicedemocrats.com

[midnightpulp]

Her "positions" are here

https://www.justicedemocrats.com

Let's unpack:

- Green New Deal

I agree that her proposal is unrealistically optimistic, and most likely will never be introduced into law. That doesn't mean anthropocentric climate change isn't a real problem that, as I've stated in prior discussions with you about the topic, needs to be addressed sooner rather than later, per the consensus of the scientific community. Maybe conservatives can offer counter proposals rather than fear monger about banned air travel and cheeseburger confiscation.

- Secure a living wage and tie it to inflation

Bad how? Minimum and living wage has not kept pace with inflation, while wealth growth among the top earners has outpaced inflation.

http://sc.cnbcfm.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/files/2016/07/19/min-wage-inflation.PNG
http://www.mybudget360.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/income-growth-by-quintile.png

As I've said before. Supply-side economics had a 40 year trial. It did not "trickle down." Time to think up something new.

- Enact a federal jobs guarantee.

A little over-optimistic, but could be feasible. We already have some form of a "federal jobs guarantee" in the American military, which is usually an option for those from low income backgrounds or those lacking a higher education who can't find a well paying job in the conventional private sector. But instead of wasting trillions on wars, silly fighter planes, and 600 bases around the world, none of which benefit Americans, we cut defense spending in half. Then we put that difference toward creating more domestic federal jobs that are centered on actually benefitting Americans rather than using that money to devise more ways to kill goat herders.

- Rebuild our crumbling infrastructure.

This was a key selling point for Lord Trump during his campaign, promising to build infrastructure that is "second to none." Don't see any downsides here, except "concern" that it might bite into our defense spending budget (which continues to get near-trillion dollar bumps, while we have yet to see one dollar spent on infrastructure overhaul).

- Block bad trade deals.

Also a key selling point during Lord Trump's campaign.

- End tax loopholes.

No reasonable person would be against this.

- End necessary wars and nation building.

No reasonable person would be against this.

- Medicare for all.

I went into detail in prior posts how this can easily work (also, we can look at the successful implementation of this in other countries as proof of concept).

- Free public colleges and trade schools.

Other countries employ this with success.

I'll cut it short, but I see nothing "radical" in any of the subsequent proposals, even abolishing ICE, which is just more government bloat (we already enough law enforcement agencies in the country).

Sound to me like the core objection to Cortez's platform is same as it ever was from those on the right: "More taxes! Y-Y-You m-m-mean I have to be a little bit more selfless so that my fellow Americans who weren't as fortunate as me can live a more flourishing life!? Fuck that. I need that extra 10K per year that will have no measurable effect on my standard of living since I want a new fishing boat! I earned it! Those people who can't achieve upward economic mobility are just lazy! BOOTSTRAPS!"

[midnightpulp]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1104449058553229312

:lol "Earn your way in America." God I love how this college admissions scandal has blown up the "Bootstrap" concept. Shit has been going for decades. And this same type of nepotism and cronyism exists at even worse levels in the private sector.

[FrostKing]

:lol "Earn your way in America." God I love how this college admissions scandal has blown up the "Bootstrap" concept. Shit has been going for decades. And this same type of nepotism and cronyism exists at even worse levels in the private sector.
The key is quality K-12 to build a good foundation and of course family structure.

[midnightpulp]

The key is quality K-12 to build a good foundation and of course family structure.

I don't disagree, just that this scandal has exposed that people with shitty foundations, shitty education, shitty morals, and shitty family structures (the family structures of the wealthy are often dysfunctional) can cheat their way to success through money and connections, at the expense of those who played by the rules. I'm not saying your average upper-middle class American (~150K-250K median family income) didn't earn what they have, just when you start getting into the multimillionaire class, my bullshit detector goes way, way up when someone says they "bootstrapped" themselves to that level through hard, smart, and ethical work. Call me cynical, but I have more reason to believe the cynical position over fairy tale Horatio Alger myths.

[FrostKing]

I don't disagree, just that this scandal has exposed that people with shitty foundations, shitty education, shitty morals, and shitty family structures (the family structures of the wealthy are often dysfunctional) can cheat their way to success through money and connections, at the expense of those who played by the rules. I'm not saying your average upper-middle class American (~150K-250K median family income) didn't earn what they have, just when you start getting into the multimillionaire class, my bullshit detector goes way, way up when someone says they "bootstrapped" themselves to that level through hard, smart, and ethical work. Call me cynical, but I have more reason to believe the cynical position over fairy tale Horatio Alger myths.
They got into the school but my increasingly declining support for Universities has at least enough faith to assume they can't cheat their way thru the department and to an eventual degree. Even then it doesn't guarantee them a career

[midnightpulp]

They got into the school but my increasingly declining support for Universities has at least enough faith to assume they can't cheat their way thru the department and to an eventual degree. Even then it doesn't guarantee them a career

For them, it's really more about being able to add Yale, Harvard, Princeton grad to their resume, which unfortunately gets the attention of potential employers more than graduating from "lesser universities." The way they can bullshit their way to a degree is by taking easier courses, buying or paying people to do term papers (https://slate.com/human-interest/2001/12/how-to-buy-a-good-college-term-paper-online.html), and cheating on exams. These types will no doubt be a part of a frat/sorority, and then subsequently use that network of "brothers and sisters" in the real world to secure some job position. Sure, they most likely will now have to prove competence in the real world when real profits are stake, but these people aren't totally dumb, and can likely meet the bare minimum standards of performance to keep their position.

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/charliekirk11/status/1104449058553229312

:lol Qhris posting about victimhood... lots of vitamin I in det one

[Spurminator]

She's the gift that keeps on giving, tbh.

Which is why it's weird that you can't articulate your opposition to her in more than a few snarky jabs. She provides so much material yet your takes are so void of substance.

[midnightpulp]

Which is why it's weird that you can't articulate your opposition to her in more than a few snarky jabs. She provides so much material yet your takes are so void of substance.

As I said in my length reply to Darren, the objection to politicians like AOC, Warren, Sanders etc from the right always boils down to antipathy toward increased taxes (which politicians like AOC don't even want to raise/raise by a significant amount on people of Darren's class). As I concluded in that post:


Sounds to me like the core objection to Cortez's platform is same as it ever was from those on the right: "More taxes! Y-Y-You m-m-mean I have to be a little bit more selfless so that my fellow Americans who weren't as fortunate as me can live a more flourishing life!? Fuck that. I need that extra 10K per year that will have no measurable effect on my standard of living since I want a new fishing boat! I earned it! Those people who can't achieve upward economic mobility are just lazy! BOOTSTRAPS!"

Why irritates me is not necessarily the selfishness of this mentality, it's that conservatives won't/can't admit that their resistance to higher taxation is out of narrow self-interest rather than "what's best for America." They can just say it. "Yeah. It's my money, and I want as much of that money as possible to go toward my personal interests. I don't really care about the food insecurity of people in Detroit. I have my own shit to worry about."

And I honestly wouldn't think less of them for that position. Wealth is a finite resource you can potentially lose at any time due to unforeseen circumstances, so I can understand the "what if?" anxiety in this regard. Just don't try to bullshit and say that you making an extra 15K per year through a tax break helps the working poor in Detroit. It doesn't. Nor does giving Bezos a few extra billion. As I've shown numerous times, the data has proved trickle-down to be a fraud.

[Spurminator]

Why irritates me is not necessarily the selfishness of this mentality, it's that conservatives won't/can't admit that their resistance to higher taxation is out of narrow self-interest rather than "what's best for America." They can just say it. "Yeah. It's my money, and I want as much of that money as possible to go toward my personal interests. I don't really care about the food insecurity of people in Detroit. I have my own shit to worry about."

And I honestly wouldn't think less of them for that position. Wealth is a finite resource you can potentially lose at any time due to unforeseen circumstances, so I can understand the "what if?" anxiety in this regard. Just don't try to bullshit and say that you making an extra 15K per year through a tax break helps the working poor in Detroit. It doesn't. Nor does giving Bezos a few extra billion. As I've shown numerous times, the data has proved trickle-down to be a fraud.

Self interest is usually the only argument for lower taxation that holds up on objective scrutiny. Like similar debates over guns, the conservative position on taxation typically gets bogged down in hypotheticals and philosophical arguments that have no historical precedent. At best. At worst, you find yourself debating people who don't even understand the basics of tax brackets.

So I agree, better to just say, "I want to keep my income," then we can talk about how we pay for all of the stuff we need.

[ducks]

Ocasio-Cortez de-listed from board of Justice Democrats after controversy

[Chris]

As I said in my length reply to Darren, the objection to politicians like AOC, Warren, Sanders etc from the right always boils down to antipathy toward increased taxes (which politicians like AOC don't even want to raise/raise by a significant amount on people of Darren's class). As I concluded in that post:



Why irritates me is not necessarily the selfishness of this mentality, it's that conservatives won't/can't admit that their resistance to higher taxation is out of narrow self-interest rather than "what's best for America." They can just say it. "Yeah. It's my money, and I want as much of that money as possible to go toward my personal interests. I don't really care about the food insecurity of people in Detroit. I have my own shit to worry about."

And I honestly wouldn't think less of them for that position. Wealth is a finite resource you can potentially lose at any time due to unforeseen circumstances, so I can understand the "what if?" anxiety in this regard. Just don't try to bullshit and say that you making an extra 15K per year through a tax break helps the working poor in Detroit. It doesn't. Nor does giving Bezos a few extra billion. As I've shown numerous times, the data has proved trickle-down to be a fraud.

Is getting rid of the Electoral College radical - yes or no?

[spurraider21]

Is getting rid of the Electoral College radical - yes or no?
no

[midnightpulp]

Is getting rid of the Electoral College radical - yes or no?

No. Every other developed country in the world has a simple majority election process. And no, the Electoral College wasn't designed to give smaller states "more representation." It was designed as a fail safe in case the collective public lost its mind and elected a person completely unfit for office, like a bloodthirsty dictator.

[TSA]

No. Every other developed country in the world has a simple majority election process. And no, the Electoral College wasn't designed to give smaller states "more representation." It was designed as a fail safe in case the collective public lost its mind and elected a person completely unfit for office, like a bloodthirsty dictator.

Another thing these developed countries have in common

https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/11/06/foreign-election-officials-amazed-by-trust-based-u-s-voting-system-2/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/07/voter-id-other-countries-require/

[midnightpulp]

Another thing these developed countries have in common

https://foreignpolicy.com/2012/11/06/foreign-election-officials-amazed-by-trust-based-u-s-voting-system-2/

https://www.nationalreview.com/2015/07/voter-id-other-countries-require/

I don't have problems with voter ID.

[spurraider21]

No. Every other developed country in the world has a simple majority election process. And no, the Electoral College wasn't designed to give smaller states "more representation." It was designed as a fail safe in case the collective public lost its mind and elected a person completely unfit for office, like a bloodthirsty dictator.
or an orange buffoon

[spurraider21]

I don't have problems with voter ID.
as long as the government provides free ID to citizens, i'd have no issue either

[Winehole23]

as long as the government provides free ID to citizens, i'd have no issue eitherWouldn't be too hard. Start at birth and/or link to SS.

Portable citizenship from birth or entry to SS= automatically registered, lifetime, portable voting privilege.

[Winehole23]

Other countries have already figured it out. We're not too dumb, we just don't want to let all citizens vote.

[Chris]

Other countries have already figured it out. We're not too dumb, we just don't want to let all citizens vote.

IT'S A CONSPIRACY THEORY!

[Chris]

So we got 3 people that want to end the Electoral College because "other countries are doing it." Also ending the Electoral College is not radical because reasons. :tu

[midnightpulp]

So we got 3 people that want to end the Electoral College because "other countries are doing it." Also ending the Electoral College is not radical because reasons. :tu

Isn't the electoral college actually the radical solution in this case, since it's the outlier to what every other country implements? Why does simple majority "trouble" you? "Cuz dem libruhhhl coastal states will have all the power!" Then conservatives need to campaign harder to convince liberals in those states their policies are good. Other arguments I anticipate are: "But libruuuls keep allowing in immigrants who always vote for them!" 66% of Hispanics aren't affiliated with the Democratic party, and 30 percent voted for Trump.

http://media.gallup.com/GPTB/religValue/20050719_3.gif

You might not like majority rules, but minority rules isn't any better.

[pgardn]

So we got 3 people that want to end the Electoral College because "other countries are doing it." Also ending the Electoral College is not radical because reasons. :tu

What makes getting rid of it radical?

[Winehole23]

What makes getting rid of it radical?
The radical part is getting rid of minority rule.

[Winehole23]

IT'S A CONSPIRACY THEORY!
Constitution not conspiracy. The electoral college is real.

Who's the last republican who won the popular majority?

[TSA]

I don't have problems with voter ID.

If you tied mandatory legal citizen voter ID to abolishing electoral college, do you think Dems in Congress would support?

[DarrinS]

Constitution not conspiracy. The electoral college is real.

Who's the last republican who won the popular majority?

GWB

[Will Hunting]

If you tied mandatory legal citizen voter ID to abolishing electoral college, do you think Dems in Congress would support?
Provided there was an avenue for legal citizens to get voter ID without paying any fee, yes, without question.

[boutons_deux]

If you tied mandatory legal citizen voter ID to abolishing electoral college, do you think Dems in Congress would support?

there's no voter fraud, other than the fantasies that Repug / rightwing hate media pollute your fucking brain with.

[Pavlov]

If you tied mandatory legal citizen voter ID to abolishing electoral college, do you think Dems in Congress would support?If it's a de facto poll tax, no.

Are you really pushing the MASSIVE VOTE FRAUD conspiracy theory too?

[midnightpulp]

If you tied mandatory legal citizen voter ID to abolishing electoral college, do you think Dems in Congress would support?

I have no idea how much the illegal immigrant voting bloc swings elections, but Dems, being scum-sucking politicians (as all politicians are. Side note: Hate the hagiography we sometimes have toward politicians) will opt for whatever choice best ensures their political survival. I'm for abolishment for the EC simply because it makes the most sense to me. Why should elections come down to a couple of swing states? (how many times has fuckin' Iowa been the battleground state?) Seems silly.

[spurraider21]

So we got 3 people that want to end the Electoral College because "other countries are doing it." Also ending the Electoral College is not radical because reasons. :tu
that's not "why" abolishing the electoral college makes sense. that's just evidence that going with a popular vote can work just fine, and evidence that it's not a radical concept.

the "why" is because a popular vote makes more sense. a citizen's vote shouldn't count any more or less based on where they reside. right now, a vote in ohio is significantly more important than a vote from mississippi. why is that fair?

[boutons_deux]

The so-called "Constitutional" anti-democratic EC was designed/intended to disenfranchise voters who were feared/detested by the FFs and who had to be stopped (by the EC) from electing a candidate the FF white male oligarchy wouldn't like.

If the EC had rather elected two Dem presidents over popular-vote-winning Repug candidates, then all y'all Fox viewers would be screaming to kill the EC.

EC ain't going nowhere, since killing it would take a Constitutional amendment that would be voted down by red/slave states.

[ducks]

Why not make each state have one vote
Popular vote In each state
Why is it fair California state have more say then other states

Are not all states suppose to be equall

[Will Hunting]

Why is it fair California state have more say then other states

Because it has more people than other states you retarded monkey.

[spurraider21]

Why not make each state have one vote
Popular vote In each state
Why is it fair California state have more say then other states

Are not all states suppose to be equall
because i dont think 1 voter from wyoming should have the same impact as 68 voters in california. each individual vote should carry the same weight/impact.

or that 1 voter from vermont should have the same impact as 46 voters from texas