Border Security

[Spurminator]

The "compromise" has nothin to do with border security.

We can argue semantics, I would suggest very little of the racist dog-whistling from Republicans about illegals has anything to do with border security either.

Regardless, Trump doesn't want any progress hampering his ability to run on those racist dog whistles, and the feckless GOP will likely oblige him.

(Likely he's also against aiding Ukraine against his Russian handlers, which may be a bigger factor in this anyway.)

[CosmicCowboy]

We can argue semantics, I would suggest very little of the racist dog-whistling from Republicans about illegals has anything to do with border security either.

Regardless, Trump doesn't want any progress hampering his ability to run on those racist dog whistles, and the feckless GOP will likely oblige him.

(Likely he's also against aiding Ukraine against his Russian handlers, which may be a bigger factor in this anyway.)

Migrants illegally flooding our border is not a "racist dog whistle". I've got nothing against legal immigration.

[Spurs Homer]

More like it's a shitty deal. Republican Senators are constantly rolling over to Schumer.


Several far far right wing senators have already stated that this deal is the best they will ever get including if trump is president…

but you dont care about facts

you are a cult zombie and your cult daddy already gave you his orders you moron

[CosmicCowboy]

Several far far right wing senators have already stated that this deal is the best they will ever get including if trump is president…

but you dont care about facts

you are a cult zombie and your cult daddy already gave you his orders you moron

So you are fine with illegal migrants flooding our border?

[ChumpDumper]

Ideally I would like to close the border to illegal migrants.

How?

[boutons_deux]

The repug party of Putin/Mr Trash fellators is going to screw Biden, deny him a victory in a campaign year as convicted rapist loser Trash has dictated

and also screw Ukraine to help Putin

[CosmicCowboy]

How?

For the most part I agreed with H.R 2 which passed the house and was DOA in the Senate. It included mandating E-Verify.

[Thread]

The repug party of Putin/Mr Trash fellators is going to screw Biden, deny him a victory in a campaign year as convicted rapist loser Trash has dictated

and also screw Ukraine to help Putin

You fuckin' can believe that, motherfucker, God willing & your Picketwire don't rise. & the kicker, the livin' end, bouts? You'd do the entire litany if/to Trump were in there right now.

That's why we're here today===Trump made President.

Let us proceed...

[ChumpDumper]

For the most part I agreed with H.R 2 which passed the house and was DOA in the Senate. It included mandating E-Verify.

Where there any criminal penalties for employers who hire undocumented migrants?

[CosmicCowboy]

Where there any criminal penalties for employers who hire undocumented migrants?

yes

[ChumpDumper]

yes

For actually hiring the worker or just not using E-verify?

[CosmicCowboy]

For actually hiring the worker or just not using E-verify?

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4390204-5-things-to-know-about-border-bill-hr2-gop-shutdown-threats/

Under H.R. 2, employers would be required to verify — under penalty of prison — that all their workers were documented.

The method for doing so would be the E-Verify system, a voluntary program set up under a 1996 immigration bill passed under then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) that cross-references an employee’s employment paperwork against the social security database.

[boutons_deux]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7g8PW3XoAAOXre?format=jpg&name=medium

Several years ago journalist Adam serwer

Noted that Trump supporters hired him to hurt people

Hurt Muslims
Hurt women
Hurt immigrants
Hurt non-white people
Hurt Jews

Nothing has changed

They want Trump and the repugs to keep hurting all their enemies

[koriwhat]

Several years ago journalist Adam serwer

Noted that Trump supporters hired him to hurt people

Hurt Muslims
Hurt women
Hurt immigrants
Hurt non-white people
Hurt Jews

Nothing has changed

They want Trump and the repugs to keep hurting all their enemies

Cry more you stupid mentally ill retarded little cunt!

[koriwhat]

but you dont care about facts

you are a cult zombie


Says the dumbfuck who goes on and on about Russia, Russia, Russia... :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/4390204-5-things-to-know-about-border-bill-hr2-gop-shutdown-threats/

Under H.R. 2, employers would be required to verify — under penalty of prison — that all their workers were documented.

The method for doing so would be the E-Verify system, a voluntary program set up under a 1996 immigration bill passed under then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.) that cross-references an employee’s employment paperwork against the social security database.Looking forward to all the American farmers and food processing CEOs being put away.:tu

[Thread]

Several years ago journalist Adam serwer

Noted that Trump supporters hired him to hurt people

Hurt Muslims
Hurt women
Hurt immigrants
Hurt non-white people
Hurt Jews

Nothing has changed

They want Trump and the repugs to keep hurting all their enemies

Amen, motherfuckers. & it was you who started this shit. And now you want peace, harmony and (like it was). Uh, uh. Never.

See ya's in the street.

[Thread]

Looking forward to all the American farmers and food processing CEOs being put away.:tu

Me too, any kind of uprising and continuation of the behavior is welcome by me. The worse the better.

Let us proceed...

[Spurs Homer]

So you are fine with illegal migrants flooding our border?

You are being lied to. No one is flooding anything except your maga brain. People are coming here to seek a better life and they are LEGALLY applying for asylum.

82 percent of the people applying are being turned down and deported. This has been going on for decades. Obama deported more people than any other president.

trump never secured the border but instead put babies in cages and separated families as a cruel deterrent which miserably failed and those broken families were never repaired.

Trump did tell YOU that he secured it and you opened wide and swallowed. He did lie to you about everything he did and you opened wide and swallowed.

there were no caravans- except the ones a thousand miles away.
there is no current “crisis” as evidenced by the GOP refusing a deal when Biden called their bluff.

how many thousands of lies will you open wide and swallow and then dutifully spread as propaganda before you admit you were duped and continue to be duped daily by the traitor who spewed 40,000 lies during one 4 year term and gifted trillions to the rich and then convinced you the country was in fiscal trouble due to

“illegals”

you absolute fucking moron cult kunt

[CosmicCowboy]

You are being lied to. No one is flooding anything except your maga brain. People are coming here to seek a better life and they are LEGALLY applying for asylum.

82 percent of the people applying are being turned down and deported. This has been going on for decades. Obama deported more people than any other president.

trump never secured the border but instead put babies in cages and separated families as a cruel deterrent which miserably failed and those broken families were never repaired.

Trump did tell YOU that he secured it and you opened wide and swallowed. He did lie to you about everything he did and you opened wide and swallowed.

there were no caravans- except the ones a thousand miles away.
there is no current “crisis” as evidenced by the GOP refusing a deal when Biden called their bluff.

how many thousands of lies will you open wide and swallow and then dutifully spread as propaganda before you admit you were duped and continue to be duped daily by the traitor who spewed 40,000 lies during one 4 year term and gifted trillions to the rich and then convinced you the country was in fiscal trouble due to

“illegals”

you absolute fucking moron cult kunt

Looks like you are the one regurgitating lies. Pointless to argue with idiots like you.

[TDMVPDPOY]

spending 500b on border security, thats like 1/4 of australias gdp economy ....

hence even some states of america dont make or earn 500b

lol those from europe, africa, asia on the border of usa/mexico getting in...why isnt the govt sending them back

[Winehole23]

Looking forward to all the American farmers and food processing CEOs being put away.:tuditto owners of construction companies, landscapers, hotels and restaurants. shut em all down.

[Winehole23]

spending 500b on border security, thats like 1/4 of australias gdp economy ....all that money spent on building walls and beefing up borfer for the last 20-30 years has not had a meaningful effect. maybe we should try something else, instead of wasting even more money on stuff that doesn't work.

[daboom1]

Migrants illegally flooding our border is not a "racist dog whistle". I've got nothing against legal immigration.

They gotta play the race card every time smh

[daboom1]

How?

derp

[daboom1]

Me too, any kind of uprising and continuation of the behavior is welcome by me. The worse the better.

Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

sterilizing detainees is taking it a bit far

1750618295869305275

[Winehole23]

By objective measures, Biden is much tougher on border enforcement than Trump.

1749565189563818403

1749566420671684865

[Winehole23]

So was Obama, tbh

[HemisfairArena]

By objective measures, Biden is much tougher on border enforcement than Trump.

1749565189563818403

1749566420671684865

I see you said by objective measures, dumbfuck,,,,you dont want to mention pure numbers that the crypt keeper is allowing in,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

So was Obama, tbh


Sure, dumbshit,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

sterilizing detainees is taking it a bit far

1750618295869305275


Youre ok supporting a party that wants to allow abortions in the 3rd trimester but sterlizing detainees is to much,,,,,:lmao

[Spurminator]

Migrants illegally flooding our border is not a "racist dog whistle". I've got nothing against legal immigration.

Who said anything about you? Are you seriously going to try to claim that racism isn't a huge part of why immigration is such a hot button issue with white conservatives?

Your party will continue to shift further into the Trumpism you claim to hate as long as people like you keep their heads in the sand about what motivates your base.

[Spurminator]

And anyway, applying for asylum is part of legal immigration, so tell me how drowning and shooting people trying to cross the border is consistent with being okay about legal migration?

[Spurminator]

They gotta play the race card every time smh

Go post some more in the demographics thread, racist.

[MultiTroll]

Mexico’s National Guard boosts border patrols in Tijuana as new barrier goes up by beach (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/mexico-s-national-guard-boosts-border-patrols-in-tijuana-as-new-barrier-goes-up-by-beach/ar-BB1hhi9a?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=d90c5219e6b540dabada4c4b6073cdcb&ei=106)

[monosylab1k]

Texas getting into a shootout with the feds at the border would definitely accelerate the state turning purple. So there’s that.

[boutons_deux]

Now there is a convoy of yahoo Christian Nationalist Fascists on their way to the border because God told him to help the Texas yahoos block the Federals

Hide USCP had not been compromised and corrupted, they should have had orders to shoot to kill on J6

Will the federal government make the same dickless mistake at the border? You betcha

[boutons_deux]

Texas getting into a shootout with the feds at the border would definitely accelerate the state turning purple. So there’s that.

TX could be purple now but it's been gerrymandered and voter suppressed and to being hard red

[CosmicCowboy]

And anyway, applying for asylum is part of legal immigration, so tell me how drowning and shooting people trying to cross the border is consistent with being okay about legal migration?

economic migrants do not qualify for asylum.


Not everyone qualifies for asylum or refugee status, of course. Applicants must meet strict requirements, as described in this article. In particular, you would need to show two things:

You are unable or unwilling to return to your home country because you have been persecuted there in the past or have a well-founded fear that you will be persecuted if you go back.
The reason you have been (or will be) persecuted is connected to one of five grounds: either your race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or your political opinion.

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1750977467148345399?t

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/DC_Draino/status/1750977467148345399?t

No, it's not a coincidence.

Abbott should bend the knee now to save himself more embarrassment.

[CosmicCowboy]

I have been reading about their plans to quit approving LPG terminals to placate his left wing for weeks.

[Blake]

But I thought abbot didn't need the federal government. He needs to make up his mind on that

[CosmicCowboy]

But I thought abbot didn't need the federal government. He needs to make up his mind on that

Try to keep up, Blake. This has been in the works for months. Plus most of the applications were in Louisiana

[boutons_deux]

Fucking Confederate slave state Texas going full nullification like 1860s all over again

Biden should expand scotus with 5 more, giving 8-6 and reverse back to roe, etc,etc

[Thread]

Fucking Confederate slave state Texas going full nullification like 1860s all over again

Biden should expand scotus with 5 more, giving 8-6 and reverse back to roe, etc,etc

You had the con, son, and let Trump take it from ya.

tee, hee.

[boutons_deux]

Other Confederate and red States sending troops to the rio grande

constitutional crisis of nullification for a fabricated Repug campaign "crisis" in a campaign year. Trash will lose in any case.

how will Biden handle it, I'm betting total fecklessness

[Thread]

Other Confederate and red States sending troops to the rio grande

constitutional crisis of nullification for a fabricated Repug campaign "crisis" in a campaign year. Trash will lose in any case.

how will Biden handle it, I'm betting total fecklessness

He already won. He made President. That's why we're here late of a Friday night, bouts. & whats more, son; why we'll always be here till our dying days. That's Trump's salvation, don't you know? Yeah, you know. Damn right you do, skipper.

[HemisfairArena]

keep them borders open and Trump is a shoo-in in 2024,,,,democrats scamblin' to get a deal done to save their chances,,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Republicans did nothing when they were in full power and want to do nothing now.

[HemisfairArena]

:lol Republicans did nothing when they were in full power and want to do nothing now.


you gonna go cry to the mods about it?,,,,,:lmao

[FrostKing]

Lack of border safety/initiative is a Western phenomenon.

We will fund and even get involved in border conflicts overseas but leave our own people helpless.

[Thread]

you gonna go cry to the mods about it?,,,,,:lmao
:lmao

[Thread]

Lack of border safety/initiative is a Western phenomenon.

We will fund and even get involved in border conflicts overseas but leave our own people helpless.

Frosty

[Winehole23]

economic migrants do not qualify for asylum.The asylum process is there to sort that out. It's underfunded and understaffed relative to border enforcement.

[Winehole23]

Trump didn't give a shit about stuff that could work, just rhetoric and symbolism -- like walls that don't work.


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Fully funding e-Verify would be cheaper and way more efficient than a wall, but I guess the promise wasn't solving a problem, it was WALL.

[Winehole23]

SB 4 could very well increase that percentage.

https://legiscan.com/TX/text/SB4/id/2851390


Deportations of U.S. citizens occur much more frequently than commonly understood. According to Jacqueline Stevens, a professor at Northwestern University and founder of the Deportation Research Clinic (https://deportation-research.buffett.northwestern.edu/), about 1 percent of all people detained by ICE are U.S. citizens, and about one-half of 1 percent of all people deported from the country are U.S. citizens.:wow

https://jacquelinestevens.org/StevensVSP18.32011.pdf

[Winehole23]

From 2019, but still relevant:

US citizen detained by ICE for three weeks.

Now that ICE can detain people without a warrant anywhere in the US, it might be a good idea to start carrying your papers, you know, in case someone wants to check if you belong here.


“I presented then with his original birth certificate and other documents and they ignored them. So now I’ve faxed over all the documents to the ICE agent handling the case,” Galan said. “He’s going on a full month of being wrongfully detained. He’s a U.S. citizen and he needs to be released now.”


https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immi...ed-three-weeks (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/immigration/2019/07/22/dallas-born-citizen-picked-border-patrol-detained-three-weeks)

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EkxoHPmUUAAguzD.jpg:large

[Winehole23]

From the commies at the Cato Institute

Biden is better at getting rid of border crossers than DJT.


According to new data (https://judiciary.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/republicans-judiciary.house.gov/files/evo-media-document/2023-10-09-New-Data-and-Testimony.pdf) published last month, the Biden Department of Homeland Security (DHS) has removed a higher percentage of arrested border crossers in its first two years than the Trump DHS did over its last two years. Moreover, migrants were more likely to be released after a border arrest under President Trump than under President Biden.

In absolute terms, the Biden DHS is removing 3.5 times as many people per month as the Trump DHS did. These figures are important for understanding how each administration has carried out border enforcement.
During the Trump administration, DHS made 1.4 million arrests—what it calls “encounters”—in fiscal years 2019 and 2020 (24 months). Of those people arrested, only 47 percent were removed as of December 31, 2021, which includes people arrested by Trump and removed by Biden, and 52 percent were released into the United States.

Under Biden, DHS made over 5 million arrests in its first 26.3 months, and it removed nearly 2.6 million—51 percent—while releasing only 49 percent. In other words, the Trump DHS removed a minority of those arrested while the Biden DHS removed a majority. Biden managed to increase the removal share while also increasing the total removals by a factor of 3.5.
https://www.cato.org/blog/new-data-show-migrants-were-more-likely-be-released-trump-biden

[Winehole23]

https://gbpi.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/10/MicrosoftTeams-image-48-1024x596.png

[Thread]

Lack of border safety/initiative is a Western phenomenon.

We will fund and even get involved in border conflicts overseas but leave our own people helpless.


Frosty

[Winehole23]

like the authors say, it's complicated, but on average immigrants pay more in taxes than they consume in public spending. they also pay for Social Security benefits they may never receive.


Immigrants have a more positive net fiscal impact than that of native‐​born Americans in most scenarios in the Updated Model and in every scenario in the Cato Model, depending on how the costs of public goods are allocated. The Cato Model finds that immigrant individuals who arrive at age 25 and who are high school dropouts have a net fiscal impact of +$216,000 in net present value terms, which does not include their descendants. Including the fiscal impact of those immigrants’ descendants reduces those immigrants’ net fiscal impact to +$57,000. By comparison, native‐​born American high school dropouts of the same age have a net fiscal impact of −$32,000 that drops to −$177,000 when their descendants are included (see Table 31). Results also differ by level of government. State and local governments often incur a less positive or even negative net fiscal impact from immigration, whereas the federal government almost always sees revenues rise above expenditures in response to immigration. With some variation and exceptions, the net fiscal impact of immigrants is more positive than it is for native‐​born Americans and positive overall for the federal and state/​local governments.https://www.cato.org/white-paper/fiscal-impact-immigration-united-states

[Winehole23]

it's doubtful the GOP will be able to pass a tougher bill or find a more conservative Dem to sign it than Joe Biden


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GE0CAvcXkAAdRX8?format=jpg&name=small

[Thread]

it's doubtful the GOP will be able to pass a tougher bill or find a more conservative Dem to sign it than Joe Biden


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GE0CAvcXkAAdRX8?format=jpg&name=small

As our Effy is won't to say:::Biden is is on bended knee. He'll need Jill to help him back up.

[Winehole23]

will be interesting to see how this thrashes out

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[Thread]

will be interesting to see how this thrashes out

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It's the same old shit. Either have a 0 policy, or, leave it like it is because otherwise, it's 6 of 1, 1/2 dozen of the other.

& everybody knows it.

[Blake]

Try to keep up, Blake. This has been in the works for months. Plus most of the applications were in Louisiana

Republicans have been bragging for years about how Texas doesn't need the federal government. Where have you been?

[Thread]

Republicans have been bragging for years about how Texas doesn't need the federal government. Where have you been?

...building a shoe store in Dumps' ass next to the shoe store that Lumps built in there a fortnight ago.

[Winehole23]

will be interesting to see how this thrashes out

1751061492466941958it's way stricter than anything Trump ever supported

[daboom1]

you gonna go cry to the mods about it?,,,,,:lmao


:lmao

gotheem :lmao

[Winehole23]

Native Texans are more dangerous than immigrants and even more so than illegals-- no contest, really



Light and Purdue University sociology graduate student Ty Miller used state-level immigration data from the Center for Migration Studies and the Pew Research Center spanning 1990 to 2014, comparing undocumented immigration rates to an index of violent crimes — homicide, rape, robbery and aggravated assault — kept by the FBI. They also examined the impact of undocumented immigration on violent victimization rates from the National Crime Victimization Survey.

All told, the researchers examined annual rates of migration and crime-related factors such as unemployment, age, gun availability and drug activity for each of the 50 states and Washington, D.C., over the course of 24 years — more than 1,000 discreet time periods with which to weigh the effect of undocumented immigration.

“The direction of the relationship is fairly clear,” says Light. “They’re all negative.”

More undocumented immigration meant less violent crime. According to the study, a 1 percent increase in the proportion of the population that is undocumented is associated with 49 fewer violent crimes per 100,000 people.https://news.wisc.edu/study-shows-undocumented-immigration-doesnt-increase-violent-crime/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20direction%20of%20the%20rel ationship,violent%20crimes%20per%20100%2C000%20peo ple.

The study: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

[Thread]

Native Texans are more dangerous than immigrants -- no contest, really


.https://news.wisc.edu/study-shows-undocumented-immigration-doesnt-increase-violent-crime/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20direction%20of%20the%20rel ationship,violent%20crimes%20per%20100%2C000%20peo ple.

The study: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117

You ain't never gonna turn Texas, ever. Even though it's your religion.

[CosmicCowboy]

Republicans have been bragging for years about how Texas doesn't need the federal government. Where have you been?

You coflated the two like the dumbass you are.

[Blake]

You collated the two like the dumbass you are.

Or maybe you had no idea what I was even referring to and just felt like raging like the red ass you are

[CosmicCowboy]

I know there are a few idiots advocating secession but they are even fewer than cucks like you.

[Winehole23]

Native Texans are more dangerous than immigrants and even more so than illegals-- no contest, really


.https://news.wisc.edu/study-shows-undocumented-immigration-doesnt-increase-violent-crime/#:~:text=%E2%80%9CThe%20direction%20of%20the%20rel ationship,violent%20crimes%20per%20100%2C000%20peo ple.

The study: https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2014704117it isn't an invasion, and the illegals make us safer.

the law and order bellyaching about rapists and drug dealers is approximately 100% racist ooga-booga.

(Some people might just be ignorant.)

[Winehole23]

(as supported by a massively longitudinal study of government statistics)

[CosmicCowboy]

(as supported by a massively longitudinal study of government statistics)

Wow...a sociology grad student said so. Whinehole is all in.

[Winehole23]

Wow...a sociology grad student said so. Whinehole is all in.what you got?

vibes and bullshit?

:lol

[Winehole23]

Fwiw, the sociology came up with a similar result 15 years ago.. Native Texans are objectively worse than immigrants, legal and illegal, from a law and order perspective.

[CosmicCowboy]

Whinehole approves of open borders. What a surprise.

A sociology grad student told him it was great.

[Winehole23]

The narrative flies cause y'all some racist, ignorant fucks.

[CosmicCowboy]

The narrative flies cause y'all some racist, ignorant fucks.

Have some more wine, whinehole.

[Winehole23]

Whinehole approves of open borders. What a surprise.

A sociology grad student told him it was great.No, just adequate processing. I know this is taboo, because it means more legal immigration.

Cause y'all some racist, ignorant fucks.

[Winehole23]

(Just vibes and bullshit from CC, no empirical support)

[Winehole23]

Have some more wine, whinehole.don't mind if I do.

in vino veritas

[daboom1]

it isn't an invasion, and the illegals make us safer.

the law and order bellyaching about rapists and drug dealers is approximately 100% racist ooga-booga.

(Some people might just be ignorant.)

Tell that to the families of the dead border patrol who paid the ultimate price.

[daboom1]

They gotta play the race card every time smh


The narrative flies cause y'all some racist, ignorant fucks.

smh

[ChumpDumper]

Whinehole approves of open borders. What a surprise.

A sociology grad student told him it was great.

The borders aren't open.

I know Fox News keeps telling you that. What a surprise.

[Winehole23]

The borders aren't open.

I know Fox News keeps telling you that. What a surprise.The deal Biden is offering them is the best the GOP can ever hope to get, tbh. Biden is super conservative.

[Winehole23]

Maybe even more than the GOP, in a sense.

[Winehole23]

This is way more restrictive than Trump ever put forward.

[Thread]

The deal Biden is offering them is the best the GOP can ever hope to get, tbh. Biden is super conservative.

...he's the biggest fuck in this country. The SOB.

[ChumpDumper]

The deal Biden is offering them is the best the GOP can ever hope to get, tbh. Biden is super conservative.


Maybe even more than the GOP, in a sense.


This is way more restrictive than Trump ever put forward.

republicans don't really give a shit about undocumented migrants. The people who bankroll them don't want immigration reform of any kind.

[HemisfairArena]

republicans don't really give a shit about undocumented migrants. The people who bankroll them don't want immigration reform of any kind.

Chumper the pussy with a shit take again,,,,lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Chumper the pussy with a shit take again,,,,lmao

Why didn't your Republicans do anything about immigration when they controlled all branches of government?

Please explain fully without soiling yourself again.

[HemisfairArena]

Why didn't your Republicans do anything about immigration when they controlled all branches of government?

Please explain fully without soiling yourself again.

Chumper the pussy with a shit take again,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

Chumper the pussy with a shit take again,,,,

Boomerfair shits himself and folds.

You have nothing as usual.

[Thread]

republicans don't really give a shit about undocumented migrants. The people who bankroll them don't want immigration reform of any kind.


No, we don't, and neither do you except for one service they provide...a 95% Democrat voting block, ya fuck, you. Ya piece a shit.

[Spurs Homer]

The border:

RAPISTS are coming into the country!
TRUMP = Found guilty of rape

CRIMINALS are entering the USA!
TRUMP = Felony indictments x91

If you want to come here- obey the law! Do it the right way! We are a nation of laws!
TRUMP = Fuck the law, I can order seal team 6 to assassinate my political rivals and should have immunity!

Biden administration is not following the law and catch and release and states laws and CHICAGO!
TRUMP = Babies in cages never to ever see their mothers again for the “crime” of seeking LEGAL ASYLUM!


hypocrites much?

I’ll spare you the OTHER 1 MILLION EXAMPLES…

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1751356962120294492?t


^^^^^^^^

[Ef-man]

Joe denying entry to Chyna students

The Chinese government has protested to the United States over the treatment of Chinese arriving to study in America, saying some have been interrogated for hours, had their electronic devices checked and in some cases were forcibly deported from the country.

Xie Feng, the Chinese ambassador in Washington, said dozens of Chinese holding valid visas have been denied entry over the past few months when returning to school from overseas travel or visiting relatives in China, according to a post on the Chinese Embassy website.

“When they landed at the airport, what awaited them was an eight-hour-long interrogation by officers who prohibited them from contacting their parents, made groundless accusations against them and even forcibly repatriated them and banned their entry,” he said Sunday at an event at the embassy on student exchanges. “This is absolutely unacceptable.”


https://apnews.com/article/china-us-university-students-deported-interrogation (https://apnews.com/article/china-us-university-students-deported-interrogation-40012461bd45306e527946a7403f8b1a)

[Thread]

Joe denying entry to Chyna students

The Chinese government has protested to the United States over the treatment of Chinese arriving to study in America, saying some have been interrogated for hours, had their electronic devices checked and in some cases were forcibly deported from the country.

Xie Feng, the Chinese ambassador in Washington, said dozens of Chinese holding valid visas have been denied entry over the past few months when returning to school from overseas travel or visiting relatives in China, according to a post on the Chinese Embassy website.

“When they landed at the airport, what awaited them was an eight-hour-long interrogation by officers who prohibited them from contacting their parents, made groundless accusations against them and even forcibly repatriated them and banned their entry,” he said Sunday at an event at the embassy on student exchanges. “This is absolutely unacceptable.”


https://apnews.com/article/china-us-university-students-deported-interrogation (https://apnews.com/article/china-us-university-students-deported-interrogation-40012461bd45306e527946a7403f8b1a)

I'll boil this down here...Effy is a regular MAGAT in Israel.

I diego'ed ya, Effy.

tee, hee.

[illusioNtEk]

They cry and bitch about the border but yet so nothing to solve it.

[Thread]

They cry and bitch about the border but yet so nothing to solve it.

Because it's vote harvesting for primarily all factions: D's, RINO's, R's. D's&RINO's get 95% of it, the R's the remainder.

[CosmicCowboy]

Poll after poll says the border will be the #1 issue in November. Who do you think that helps?

[pgardn]

Poll after poll says the border will be the #1 issue in November. Who do you think that helps?

It helps people who want to be scared and are willfully xenophobic. Border security because of druggies and rapists instead of overwhelming border cities.
And It is absolutely a problem.
But health care and social security dwarf this monetarily and are not being considered because "we" dont want to take on bigger problems.
The democrats can come up with their own scare tactics if the red team owns the WH. But neither party takes on real problems.

Because "we" cant handle bigger but less acute issues. Kick the Can...

[Thread]

It helps people who want to be scared and are willfully xenophobic. Border security because of druggies and rapists instead of overwhelming border cities.
And It is absolutely a problem.
But health care and social security dwarf this monetarily and are not being considered because "we" dont want to take on bigger problems.
The democrats can come up with their own scare tactics if the red team owns the WH. But neither party takes on real problems.

Because "we" cant handle bigger but less acute issues. Kick the Can...

The only thing we can handle is (Trump made President).

That's it & that's all.

[ChumpDumper]

Poll after poll says the border will be the #1 issue in November. Who do you think that helps?

It's not the economy anymore?

That would've helped you more tbh.

[Thread]

It's not the economy anymore?

That would've helped you more tbh.


The only thing we can handle is (Trump made President).

That's it & that's all.

[CosmicCowboy]

It's not the economy anymore?

That would've helped you more tbh.

Thats #2

it's hilarious Biden keep taking credit for "Bidenomics".
'.
'.

[ChumpDumper]

Thats #2

it's hilarious Biden keep taking credit for "Bidenomics".
'.
'.

Are you doing badly in this economy?

[Blake]

Poll after poll says the border will be the #1 issue in November. Who do you think that helps?

Will Trump show pictures of the wall he built?

[Thread]

Will Trump show pictures of the wall he built?

No, it's enough that he made President.

That's why we're here this evening, Black, I mean Blake. And welcome back to you, Black, I mean Blake.

Let us proceed...

[CosmicCowboy]

Are you doing badly in this economy?

I'm doing quite well, thank you.

[clambake]

Cowboy just now decided he should stop feigning his disgust of trump?

Good call. It has been embarrassing to see.

[Thread]

Cowboy just now decided he should stop feigning his disgust of trump?

Good call. It has been embarrassing to see.

clammy!!! Welcome back. I ain't seen ya in coon's age.

Let us proceed...

[Ef-man]

Ole Joe playing 2024D Chess!

Major Ole Joe Counter-Hack Disables China Botnet in Critical Infrastructure

Joe Biden's FBI says it has foiled attempts by a Chinese government-sponsored hacking ring to conceal its preparations for attacks on American critical infrastructure.

The operation, green lit by court order last month, "disrupted a botnet of hundreds of U.S.-based small office/home office (SOHO) routers hijacked by People's Republic of China (PRC) state-sponsored hackers", according to a press statement from the agency Wednesday.

The attack was carried out by a state-sponsored, China-based group of hackers known as "Volt Typhoon," also known as "Bronze Silhouette," that has been active in the U.S. since at least mid-2021.

https://www.newsweek.com/us-counter-hack-disables-china-botnet (https://www.newsweek.com/us-counter-hack-disables-china-botnet-1865877)

[ChumpDumper]

I'm doing quite well, thank you.The economy is not actually an issue for you at all.:tu

[Thread]

Ole Joe playing 2024D Chess!

Major Ole Joe Counter-Hack Disables China Botnet in Critical Infrastructure

Joe Biden's FBI says it has foiled attempts by a Chinese government-sponsored hacking ring to conceal its preparations for attacks on American critical infrastructure.

The operation, green lit by court order last month, "disrupted a botnet of hundreds of U.S.-based small office/home office (SOHO) routers hijacked by People's Republic of China (PRC) state-sponsored hackers", according to a press statement from the agency Wednesday.

The attack was carried out by a state-sponsored, China-based group of hackers known as "Volt Typhoon," also known as "Bronze Silhouette," that has been active in the U.S. since at least mid-2021.

(https://www.newsweek.com/us-counter-hack-disables-china-botnet-1865877)https://www.newsweek.com/us-counter-hack-disables-china-botnet

Dover calling, Effy.

tee, hee.

[Spurs Homer]

Poll after poll says the border will be the #1 issue in November. Who do you think that helps?

The ISSUE has been the racist GOP's most successful radicalization tool. This ISSUE has recruited racists, xenophobes,white supremacists, scared gullible hypocrites and has been a big winner from the standpoint of:
"we have completely brainwashed our voters to hate dems and falsely accuse them of having an open border."

The ISSUE was a big loser for Dems....until now.

Sleepy Joe stumbled upon a GREAT INSIGHT: What if I took away the ISSUE from the racist GOP and instead agreed to solve the PROBLEM of the border?

So he offered the racist GOP "an offer they could not refuse."
Give the racists EVERY thing they have been crying for - strip legal asylum seekers of most rights, deport every non-white honest person back to their shit-hole country, EVERYTHING the racists have turned into their #1 ISSUE...

and instead offer a deal to fix the PROBLEM - therefore stripping away the GOP of their #1 ISSUE.

Surely, they cannot refuse a racist bill where non-whites get screwed?

Except, the racists GOP are refusing the deal as this might FIX THE ACTUAL PROBLEM -
but it will also ...

Strip away their biggest radicalizing tool!


:lmao:lmao:lmao:lmao

This election, sleepy Joe- who knows not where he is or what he is doing...can simply say
"we offered to CLOSE THE BORDER COMPLETELY - but the GOP REFUSED to sign the bill that would have given them everything and solved the PROBLEM at the border"

So the biggest ISSUE the racist GOP had for decades...will be the weapon that senile 143 yr old sleepy joe will use to win another election. The economy is looking pretty good too.

[Thread]

Dover calling, kids.

tee, hee.

[MultiTroll]

The border:

RAPISTS are coming into the country!
TRUMP = Found guilty of rape

CRIMINALS are entering the USA!
TRUMP = Felony indictments x91

If you want to come here- obey the law! Do it the right way! We are a nation of laws!
TRUMP = Fuck the law, I can order seal team 6 to assassinate my political rivals and should have immunity!

Biden administration is not following the law and catch and release and states laws and CHICAGO!
TRUMP = Babies in cages never to ever see their mothers again for the “crime” of seeking LEGAL ASYLUM!


hypocrites much?

I’ll spare you the OTHER 1 MILLION EXAMPLES…
Spurs Homer

[Thread]

Dover calling, kids.

tee, hee.

[FrostKing]

Look around the World - today's Liberals have no strategy or plan to combat illegal migration.

[Thread]

Look around the World - today's Liberals have no strategy or plan to combat illegal migration.

...because their leaders and the American Gov't (all sides) need those (feet on the ground/black/brown,shit hole, IT DON'T MATTER.)...abortion upset the equilibrium, the very fiber of this country.

There is no turning back.

[daboom1]

Would you like some Brown in your small town?

Democrats deliver!

[pgardn]

Look around the World - today's Liberals have no strategy or plan to combat illegal migration.

What is the conservative plan....

A fkn worthless wall.

[ChumpDumper]

Would you like some Brown in your small town?

Democrats deliver!Are there only whites in your city, Qhris?

[boutons_deux]

The repugs fabricate an inflammatory crisis at the border as a campaigning tactic for their stupid ignorant xenophobic racist fox viewers

The repugs have been plenty of chances since 2001 to come up with a reformed upgraded immigration/ asylum plan

They simply refuse because they use xenophobic campaigning to inflame, rouse the rabble

They've already admitted. They don't want a solution to this god-awful. Horrible fabricated crisis because it would make Biden and theocrats look good and get some credit in a campaign year, or in any year

[FrostKing]

The repugs fabricate an inflammatory crisis at the border as a campaigning tactic for their stupid ignorant xenophobic racist fox viewers

The repugs have been plenty of chances since 2001 to come up with a reformed upgraded immigration/ asylum plan

They simply refuse because they use xenophobic campaigning to inflame, rouse the rabble

They've already admitted. They don't want a solution to this god-awful. Horrible fabricated crisis because it would make Biden and theocrats look good and get some credit in a campaign year, or in any year
Your ideology stands in the way of any solution i.e arguing over razor wire.

The outrage over patrol on horses.

[ChumpDumper]

Your ideology stands in the way of any solution i.e arguing over razor wire.You don't want a solution. You want theater.

[FrostKing]

You don't want a solution. You want theater.
It's becoming increasingly obvious on Planet Earth in 2024 that todays Liberal ideals are at odds with security and safety. I don't see the same mess elsewhere because there are no Liberals outside of Europe, N.America and Australia. And the Aussies take a hard stance on this subject.

[ChumpDumper]

It's becoming increasingly obvious on Planet Earth in 2024 that todays Liberal ideals are at odds with security and safety. I don't see the same mess elsewhere because there are no Liberals outside of Europe, N.America and Australia. And the Aussies take a hard stance on this subject.

:lol you offer nothing because you want nothing.

[FrostKing]

:lol you offer nothing because you want nothing.
Set up a tent city on the border and hold people there til they are deported. Multiply the budget for patrol and massive agent increase to hound the areas.

[FrostKing]

Massive increase to ICE budget. Massive deportations. Anyone withholding their origin can live in the tent city with less resources than those being processed out.

All this is still much cheaper than the current system. And it employes Americans.

[ChumpDumper]

Set up a tent city on the border and hold people there til they are deported. Multiply the budget for patrol and massive agent increase to hound the areas.


Massive increase to ICE budget. Massive deportations. Anyone withholding their origin can live in the tent city with less resources than those being processed out.

All this is still much cheaper than the current system. And it employes Americans.

Oh, concentration camps.

Sounds familiar.

[Thread]

Oh, concentration camps.

Sounds familiar.

But these will have USPS Mail Boxes about every stone's throw, Dumper.

[FrostKing]

Oh, concentration camps.

Sounds familiar.
You lack the will power to protect your family, friends and fellow citizens?

In other parts of the World tents in the desert exist for laborers.

No more getting taken advantage of. The West needs to adapt with the times.

[FrostKing]

But I will add. This strong approach should be coupled with a big step out of foreign affairs. The West needs to stop meddling and that includes humanitarian aid. No more contest of who is suffering the most. The West increasingly has the sloppiest 1st World societies.

Absolutely no reasoning we can fund/supply/join War against Russia and not regain a control of our borders AND communities.

By stepping out of foreign lands we need to vastly update our vetting process & standards.


This has become such a circus just common sense changes will be supported by quality migrants. They are the ones being tormented by our lack of will power. And why would they want to integrate become one of us when we are weak.

[FrostKing]

USA/West doesn't need to be perfect. We can satisfy our role as the pillar of Liberal values while also being strict parents.

I am proud of my USA passport, that my family & I earned. We help more people by upholding our standards...

[ChumpDumper]

You lack the will power to protect your family, friends and fellow citizens?

In other parts of the World tents in the desert exist for laborers.

No more getting taken advantage of. The West needs to adapt with the times.

Concentration camps is your answer. We get it.

[FrostKing]

Concentration camps is your answer. We get it.
People will be well fed.

The goal is to process them at neutral location, not literally entry point. Avoid over crowded facilities and over crowded court rooms. Simple strategy of dividing everyone and single males over assumed 16 should help alot.

Now we can use regular facilities for families, females, children and investigate fraud. I.e. people without identification.

[FrostKing]

Absolutely no one should be crossing into USA society without approved status. By better sorting the applicants we can slash the wait time. But again. No one should step into USA without the assumption they are approved and free to prosper in our society

[FrostKing]

Don't look at it as punishing. We are rewarding & empowering with resources our next co-worker or even neighbor.

[ChumpDumper]

"Americans will be rewarded with concentration camps."

Make that your campaign slogan.

[Ef-man]

"Americans will be rewarded with concentration camps."

Make that your campaign slogan.

Frosty can negotiate his people to see if Auschwitz can be made available, as it is not being used.

[Thread]

Frosty can negotiate his people to see if Auschwitz can be made available, as it is not being used.

Sure, get the Nazi's in Ukraine to assist Frosty's people.

tee, hee.

[Winehole23]

Labor and tax arbitrage by multinational corporations hollow out the commons and increase poverty, by design. It's also a significant contributor to problems that cause mass migration: corruption, the decline of public services, and social instability.

But sure, people who go abroad looking for a better life are the bad guys.


Why do companies relocate their manufacturing facilities to other countries? We all know the answer to that: To minimize labor costs. To lower the portion of the company’s revenue that goes to the people who do the work and to increase the portion of the company’s revenue that is reserved for investors and management. This is accomplished by the arbitrage of human desperation. A less desperate and impoverished group of workers is traded for a more desperate and impoverished group who will accept less money and a lower standard of living. In addition to this physical relocation of facilities, big companies routinely pursue the legal relocation of their operations to various tax havens, for the purpose of minimizing their tax payments. Physical relocation takes from workers, and legal relocation takes from the public of the nations that should, under a more common sense definition, be taking in tax revenue from these businesses. Working people get poorer, and the public gets poorer, and the gains are funneled into the pockets of the companies themselves, which is to say the investor and management classes. This is all done quite openly. It is not a secret at all. Apple manufactures (https://www.forbes.com/sites/irenebenedicto/2023/08/17/why-apple-is-manufacturing-the-iphone-15-in-india/?sh=7e0eee581afe) its iPhones in gargantuan worker villages in poor countries like India and China and Apple evades (https://itep.org/fact-sheet-apple-and-tax-avoidance/) tens of billions of dollars in taxes by stashing its money in offshore tax havens and Apple is, not coincidentally, worth close to $3 trillion.


This process of squeezing money from workers and the public and retaining money for a tiny sliver of wealthy people by moving freely around the world is one of the biggest creators of inequality globally, one of the biggest sources of corporate power, one of the things that makes modern global corporations more powerful than governments in many ways. None of this is viewed as a scandal. Hell, Apple is one of the world’s most admired (https://fortune.com/ranking/worlds-most-admired-companies/) companies. The unfettered flow of capital for the purpose of enriching corporations is seen as the natural order of things.


Now, why do working people relocate themselves from one country to another? For pretty much the same reason. They are seeking opportunity. They are seeking a way to improve their family’s lives. They want to leave a place with fewer jobs and lower wages and move to a place with more jobs and better wages. The process of human immigration is, at its most elementary level, the mirror image of corporate relocation. The difference is the way that these two things are treated. Capital moves freely; labor is tightly restricted. Who does this benefit? It benefits capital, and corporate power, and allows the rich to get richer at the expense of desperate workers. To a global corporation, a pool of poor labor that is locked in by national borders is a convenient thing to exploit. You can move all of your factories into that pool and reap the profits of paying much lower wages and then, if that nation finally develops to the point that workers demand a higher standard of living, you can just leapfrog over to another, more desperate nation and start the process over again. The free movement of capital comes with great benefits, but those benefits go almost exclusively to capital itself.
https://www.hamiltonnolan.com/p/the-real-immigration-problem-is-capital

[Winehole23]

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:s teep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb371d9a d-de9a-4478-b1d8-c80d80ffe93b_3991x2660.jpeg



(https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:steep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Fb371d9a d-de9a-4478-b1d8-c80d80ffe93b_3991x2660.jpeg)Devious immigrants conspiring to grow the American economy and live decently.

[boutons_deux]

Since 2001, the repairs have absolutely refused to provide any reform of immigration so as to keep it alive as an inflammatory xenophobic campaign tactic

the other tactic has been yelling and screaming and claiming voter fraud enough to swing elections, while finding none and giving them the pretext for voter suppression

Fuck the repugs to hell

[Spurs Homer]

So

the GOP still wants OPEN BORDERS!

got it!

[daboom1]

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1757562513355395360?t

[ChumpDumper]

Republicans figure it beats workin'.

[Spurs Homer]

GOP wants OPEN BORDERS!

[Thread]

https://twitter.com/simonateba/status/1757562513355395360?t

tee, hee.

[daboom1]

tee, hee.

:lol

[HemisfairArena]

So

the GOP still wants OPEN BORDERS!

got it!

Why not?,,,,you democrat fucks have shit the bed the last 3 years,,,,now we're just reaping the rewards and stickin' Trump back in the White House in '24,,,,

[Spurs Homer]

Why not?,,,,you democrat fucks have shit the bed the last 3 years,,,,now we're just reaping the rewards and stickin' Trump back in the White House in '24,,,,

so GOP = OPEN BORDERS


got it

[CosmicCowboy]

The house passed HB2 months ago and Schumer killed it in the senate. That shit bill that came back from the senate wasn't near as effective as HB2 would have been.

[spurraider21]

what to do when you claim there is an existential crisis at the border

https://i.gyazo.com/606bdb1fbccf36e795cef5bfe8af04fc.png

[spurraider21]

The house passed HB2 months ago and Schumer killed it in the senate. That shit bill that came back from the senate wasn't near as effective as HB2 would have been.
the one passed by the house was done on party lines with no input from democrats, did not have a single democrat vote. was never going to pass the senate when done that way. you need bipartisan support to get stuff like this done. the senate did just that and came up with a negotiated piece of legislation

[Spurs Homer]

The house passed HB2 months ago and Schumer killed it in the senate. That shit bill that came back from the senate wasn't near as effective as HB2 would have been.

that was a shit racist bill written to satisfy white supremacist amerikkka …
with zero democrat input/say

if the GOP controlled all of the govt- then i guess that bill would be shoved down our throats

they only control one house- barely

and it would behoove everyone if they instead tried to work across the aisle for the good of the country if indeed there was such a life and death border crisis

apparently there isnt - since they ran away as fast as they could when the dems in the senate gave away everything they had ever fought for at the border just to get something done

and of course it really wasnt that bad at the border now was it?

[pgardn]

Red team wants nothing done just like with health care.

Nothing.
Just sit and rant about rapists who cross the border.
And how the women they rape still have to have the rapists kids but when the kids actually have to meet real life…. Shit on them.

[ChumpDumper]

The house passed HB2 months ago and Schumer killed it in the senate. That shit bill that came back from the senate wasn't near as effective as HB2 would have been.

Maybe. You were shitting on the bipartisan bill before anyone knew what was in the bipartisan bill.

That was odd.

Also, is doing nothing at all better than doing something?

It's supposed to be a crisis after all.

[CosmicCowboy]

Maybe. You were shitting on the bipartisan bill before anyone knew what was in the bipartisan bill.

That was odd.

Also, is doing nothing at all better than doing something?

It's supposed to be a crisis after all.

A crisis? A month ago Biden assured us the border was secure and there was nothing wrong. It just became a crisis when they finally looked at the polling.

[ChumpDumper]

A crisis? A month ago Biden assured us the border was secure and there was nothing wrong. It just became a crisis when they finally looked at the polling.

So you'd rather do nothing about your crisis. :tu

[Thread]

A crisis? A month ago Biden assured us the border was secure and there was nothing wrong. It just became a crisis when they finally looked at the polling.

...tell it, CC.

Testify!!!

[RandomGuy]

I think that we can all agree that regulated legal immigration is a good thing and unregulated illegal immigration is a bad thing.

What do you suggest as a reasonable compromise to promote legal immigration and curb illegal immigration that both political parties could agree on?

Lets see some ideas.


I know.


Let's put together a tough border bill, and then vote against it so we have a problem to scare old fucks with for their votes in the election.

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

A crisis? A month ago Biden assured us the border was secure and there was nothing wrong. It just became a crisis when they finally looked at the polling.



Meh. Wasn't a problem then, and isn't really a problem now.

:lmao

The GOP clown show continues.

[DarrinS]

Lol

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/MIGRATION-USA/CONGRESS/lbvgbbxdopq/chart.png

[RandomGuy]

Lol

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/MIGRATION-USA/CONGRESS/lbvgbbxdopq/chart.png

fuckin A right. murder as many russians as possible

[Spurminator]

Democrats: "We need more funding for Ukraine"
Republicans: "Not without funding for border security"
Democrats: "Here's 20 billion for border security too."
Republican memelords: "The border security bill actually funds Ukraine more than the border!"
DarrinS: "Hey, they're right!"

[Spurminator]

Republicans have always been better than Democrats at bad faith re-branding, and it helps they have a more receptive (gullible) audience.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/MIGRATION-USA/CONGRESS/lbvgbbxdopq/chart.png

:tu

[DarrinS]

fuckin A right. murder as many russians as possible

nice

[DarrinS]

How many dead Russians does 60B buy?

[pgardn]

How many dead Russians does 60B buy?

How many rapists and criminals does a secure border fund prevent from entering the country?
Im sure the criminals are a huge proportion of the workers we clearly need.

[ChumpDumper]

How many dead Russians does 60B buy?
Dunno, but it sure goes a long way to reducing it as a military threat to the surrounding countries. This is the easiest and best way to do it and most of the money just goes right back to US companies making the stuff to send there.

[CosmicCowboy]

Dunno, but it sure goes a long way to reducing it as a military threat to the surrounding countries. This is the easiest and best way to do it and most of the money just goes right back to US companies making the stuff to send there.

I agree with chump on this.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the amount of money the illegal aliens are getting.... the only fkn ethnic group complaining loud and proud like its their entitlement is the blacks....

no amount of welfare will make them happy, but when it gets decrease or cut off, they up in arms

[daboom1]

https://i.ibb.co/BccpQxw/20240217-173825.jpg

[ElNono]

Lol

https://www.reuters.com/graphics/MIGRATION-USA/CONGRESS/lbvgbbxdopq/chart.png

:tu

[Thread]

:tu

Uh, uh. Not on your sweet bippy, baby-doll.

ADDENDUM: You're gonna seal that fuckin' border or, Putin is gonna make Rand McNally a windfall. tee, hee.

Chop/chop!!!

Git!!!!!!

[FrostKing]

It's disappointing to see Western Civilization steadily rott like this. Everyone in position of influence benefits. We will need more counselors, we will need more Cops. Just pumping blood into most issues we are facing today but more importantly extended the shelf life of those "with answers". Most nations are handling it logically but around a dozen will possibly lead us to violent conflicts.

[Thread]

It's disappointing to see Western Civilization steadily rott like this. Everyone in position of influence benefits. We will need more counselors, we will need more Cops. Just pumping blood into most issues we are facing today but more importantly extended the shelf life of those "with answers". Most nations are handling it logically but around a dozen will possibly lead us to violent conflicts.

...Let's see what State run CNN says about it, Frosty.

[spurraider21]

the ukraine money is a de facto stimulus program for domestic manufacturing. the actual financial assistance to ukraine is about 1/3 of the aid we've sent. the other 2/3 is supplies/arms that we manufacture

[Thread]

the ukraine money is a de facto stimulus program for domestic manufacturing. the actual financial assistance to ukraine is about 1/3 of the aid we've sent. the other 2/3 is supplies/arms that we manufacture

...with sworn caveat:::Biden doesn't have to go back out to Dover, exception Ham on Jewish Rye. Mazeltoph!!!

[DarrinS]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/uga-death-nursing-student/

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.newsnationnow.com/crime/uga-death-nursing-student/

I'd believe you and your party were sincere about immigration reform if your party even tried to do anything about immigration reform in the last 20 years.

[baseline bum]

I'd believe you and your party were sincere about immigration reform if your party even tried to do anything about immigration reform in the last 20 years.

You mean the party led by a guy who hires illegals isn't serious about illegal immigration?

[CosmicCowboy]

I'd believe you and your party were sincere about immigration reform if your party even tried to do anything about immigration reform in the last 20 years.

Chump conveniently ignores HB2.

[ChumpDumper]

Chump conveniently ignores HB2.So just this year?

You really think House Republicans are sincere NOW?

For an old guy, you're naive AF.:lol

What about when you controlled all branches of government? What did your Trump and your House do about it then when it would have been easiest?

[Thread]

So just this year?

You really think House Republicans are sincere NOW?

For an old guy, you're naive AF.:lol

What about when you controlled all branches of government? What did your Trump and your House do about it then when it would have been easiest?

...just the RINO's & only to their cause & aim.

[HemisfairArena]

So just this year?

You really think House Republicans are sincere NOW?

For an old guy, you're naive AF.:lol

What about when you controlled all branches of government? What did your Trump and your House do about it then when it would have been easiest?


LMAO,,,,your party is the one trying to act sincere in an election year and pretend to care about the border now after ignoring for 3 years,,,,,and Trump built 500 miles of border wall until you democrats took back congress and put a stop to it because you want open borders,,,,that is fact.

[ChumpDumper]

LMAO,,,,your party is the one trying to act sincere in an election year and pretend to care about the border now after ignoring for 3 years,,,,,and Trump built 500 miles of border wall until you democrats took back congress and put a stop to it because you want open borders,,,,that is fact.
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Fairy folds

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LMAO,,,,your party is the one trying to act sincere in an election year and pretend to care about the border now after ignoring for 3 years,,,,,and Trump built 500 miles of border wall until you democrats took back congress and put a stop to it because you want open borders,,,,that is fact.

GD right!!!

[MultiTroll]

How RePignatins want to keep illegals flooding in.
Straight out of their partys rep for the bill:

‘My Own Line Turned Around And Sacked Me’: James Lankford Hasn’t Forgotten The Border Bill Debacle (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/my-own-line-turned-around-and-sacked-me-james-lankford-hasn-t-forgotten-the-border-bill-debacle/ar-BB1jc409?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5fa45c559d6a4aca8eee3ef7847da55c&ei=25)

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How RePignatins want to keep illegals flooding in.
Straight out of their partys rep for the bill:

‘My Own Line Turned Around And Sacked Me’: James Lankford Hasn’t Forgotten The Border Bill Debacle (msn.com) (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/my-own-line-turned-around-and-sacked-me-james-lankford-hasn-t-forgotten-the-border-bill-debacle/ar-BB1jc409?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=5fa45c559d6a4aca8eee3ef7847da55c&ei=25)

Biden has the con, Mult. If Johnson will stand up & Biden will take the knee that'll seal the border and the Nazi's in Ukraine will get their $60 billion to be Big Shot awhile longer.

Let us proceed...

[MultiTroll]

Biden has the con, Mult. If Johnson will stand up & Biden will take the knee that'll seal the border and the Nazi's in Ukraine will get their $60 billion to be Big Shot awhile longer.

Let us proceed...
Understanding you is getting increasingly difficult.
Could anyone translate?

Meanwhile:
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Understanding you is getting increasingly difficult.
Could anyone translate?

Meanwhile:
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...I got a week instead of the death sentence.

Now, get out of my fuckin' way.

[koriwhat]

This thread is ironic considering our southern border is wide the fuck open due to the commies in the WH and all their little comrade cunts in the public sector who applaud them on. Fuck you losers!

[Spurs Homer]

This thread is ironic considering our southern border is wide the fuck open due to the commies in the WH and all their little comrade cunts in the public sector who applaud them on. Fuck you losers!


lol

tough guy scared of women and children looking for work

[MultiTroll]

lol

tough guy scared of women and children looking for work
Many of them able to ink better then Joey?

[koriwhat]

lol

tough guy scared of women and children looking for work

Your line of thinking is exactly what got us all in this mess... Ain't no one scared of women and children looking for work. As well, are children looking for work now or are you and the rest of the shitlibs out to exploit such a person? It seems as so.

As well, I have no sympathy for anyone illegally crossing our borders, north or south. Doesn't matter their race, color, etc... They are fucking illegals who aren't just illegally here but also criminals. Then again you stupid fucks love sucking off criminals so...

[koriwhat]

Many of them able to ink better then Joey?

Keep talking you fucking pedophile.

[MultiTroll]

Karey

https://youtu.be/8ainB6qnWBI

[Spurs Homer]

Your line of thinking is exactly what got us all in this mess... Ain't no one scared of women and children looking for work. As well, are children looking for work now or are you and the rest of the shitlibs out to exploit such a person? It seems as so.

As well, I have no sympathy for anyone illegally crossing our borders, north or south. Doesn't matter their race, color, etc... They are fucking illegals who aren't just illegally here but also criminals. Then again you stupid fucks love sucking off criminals so...

the orange criminal has 91 felonies -
and that is ok with you amirite?

so stfu about illegality

you dont give two shits about the rule of law

what you really are triggered by is your racism you piece of shit hypocrite

seeking asylum is legal so the only kunts breaking the law is your orange kunt cult leader and his sheeple

[koriwhat]

the orange criminal has 91 felonies -
and that is ok with you amirite?

so stfu about illegality

you dont give two shits about the rule of law

what you really are triggered by is your racism you piece of shit hypocrite

seeking asylum is legal so the only kunts breaking the law is your orange kunt cult leader and his sheeple

LMAO As if... Your ideologically driven and probably thought both Smollet and Wallace were the front running faces for civil rights 2.0 :lol

Btw, you claim I'm racist but it's you and your efriends here who spout out racist terms endlessly. I believe I just called out PG yesterday for doing as such and I'm sure you've done the same. You fucks aren't to be listened to nor cared about; yall are trash and I hope your demise comes sooner than later bro. :tu

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the orange criminal has 91 felonies -
and that is ok with you amirite?

so stfu about illegality

you dont give two shits about the rule of law

what you really are triggered by is your racism you piece of shit hypocrite

seeking asylum is legal so the only kunts breaking the law is your orange kunt cult leader and his sheeple

Yep. That's what he got for making President.

Nary a bit.

[ElNono]

:lol how's this crisis going? Is it the immigrant zombie apocalypse over yet?

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:lol how's this crisis going? Is it the immigrant zombie apocalypse over yet?

Not by a jugful it ain't.

The newcomers. tee, hee.

[Winehole23]

:lol how's this crisis going? Is it the immigrant zombie apocalypse over yet?

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1764345905669443642

"Sure, Jan."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

:lol how's this crisis going? Is it the immigrant zombie apocalypse over yet?

They did build a migrant center on San Pedro just inside loop 410. White people ready for flight.

[Spurs Homer]

GOP (Govt of Putin)

still wants open borders

thats it and thats all

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GOP (Govt of Putin)

still wants open borders

thats it and thats all

...lmemulatedao!!!

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They did build a migrant center on San Pedro just inside loop 410. White people ready for flight.

Lumps, we've been in (flight) since the '50's when the handwriting commenced to be scribbled upon the walls.

[Winehole23]

Immigration is good.

More immigration might even be better.


Immigrants make up roughly 15% of workers in the U.S., yet they are 80% more likely than native workers to become entrepreneurs, according to the study. By those numbers, the assumption that immigrants leach jobs away from Americans isn’t incorrect, but it is incomplete. First- and second-generation immigrants are launching businesses across the spectrum, from small sandwich shops with one or two employees to major tech firms with thousands of workers. For example, when South Africa native Elon Musk built his Telsa (https://www.tesla.com/factory) plant in California, he spawned more than 50,000 jobs and injected $4.1 billion into that state’s economy in 2017.

“What we find, with overwhelming evidence, is that immigrants act more as job creators than they act as job takers in the United States,” Kim said during his interview with Wharton Business Daily.

How do immigrants affect the strength of the U.S. economy? | World Economic Forum (weforum.org) (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/immigrants-expand-the-us-economy/)

[Winehole23]

The study builds on previous research that dispels myths about immigrant workers and quantifies the facts, including that immigrant entrepreneurs account for close to 25% of patents and are more likely to hold STEM degrees. Using tax records, the researchers debunked another popular theory that immigration suppresses wages. They found wages were the same or slightly higher for immigrant-founded firms versus firms with native founders.

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Immigration is good.

More immigration might even be better.

How do immigrants affect the strength of the U.S. economy? | World Economic Forum (weforum.org) (https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/immigrants-expand-the-us-economy/)

That's what you get after a half century of murdering millions of American babies in the womb.

[Winehole23]

boosted economic growth, tamped down inflation

what's not to like?


After the Covid-19 pandemic slashed jobs, immigrants have steadily been returning to the US workforce, generating economic growth and helping ease inflationary pressures.

The Congressional Budget Office projects increased immigration (https://www.thenationalnews.com/opinion/comment/2023/12/21/the-us-immigration-system-is-badly-broken-and-both-parties-need-to-start-fixing-it/) will continue through 2026, creating a large increase in the US labour supply.
This year, they are expected to contribute to the growth of the 1.7 million-strong workforce, the CBO reported.


In that same report, immigrants were projected to contribute $7 trillion in economic growth over the next decade.

“The contribution of the migrant workforce to the economy is significant. It has always been and continues to be,” said Dr Brenda Samaniego de la Parra, assistant economics professor at the University of California, Santa Cruz.

Immigration flows have also provided a crucial lifeline in the fight against inflation, which surged in 2022.
Immigration plays key role in booming US economy (thenationalnews.com) (https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/us-news/2024/03/14/immigration-playing-key-role-in-booming-us-economy/)

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boosted economic growth, tamped down inflation

what's not to like?

Immigration plays key role in booming US economy (thenationalnews.com) (https://www.thenationalnews.com/world/us-news/2024/03/14/immigration-playing-key-role-in-booming-us-economy/)

Oh, your pants, Winester, they be all on fire.

[Winehole23]

Oh, your pants, Winester, they be all on fire.last time I checked, vibes don't trump empirical measurement. what's your opinion based on?

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last time I checked, vibes don't trump empirical measurement. what's your opinion based on?

Trump making President.

[Winehole23]

Trump making President.vibes, media claptrap and nothing else

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vibes, media claptrap and nothing else

I chose wisely.

[TDMVPDPOY]

why isnt the coast guard shooting them illegal boats.... seems like everyone is flying over to south america and paying some clown to cross them over the border... just shoot them man

[Blake]

Lol kori terrified of brown skin people that he's never seen in person

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Lol kori terrified of brown skin people that he's never seen in person

The aforementioned brown apple hasn't fallen far from the tree as we've painfully learned, Blake.

[TDMVPDPOY]

there are clowns from establish stable countries, jumping the que by going to america illegally...shoot them

[Ef-man]

why isnt the coast guard shooting them illegal boats.... seems like everyone is flying over to south america and paying some clown to cross them over the border... just shoot them man

I believe the government is still studying the issue of placing landmines along the southern border, as ducks suggested many threads ago; so wait your turn on new ideas.

[Winehole23]

the furore over an immigrant crime wave is racist ooga-booga without any basis in fact


Notably, the two border states that have completed their Uniform Crime Reports saw particularly sharp declines in murder in 2023, with 15% drop in Texas and 8.8% drop in Arizona. Both states also saw significant declines in violent crime overall. If undocumented immigrants were driving a violent crime surge, as Republicans and some media outlets suggest, you would expect to see it show up in the data from Texas and Arizona.


Every act of violent crime is significant, and the modern media environment allows news of individual offenses — like the alleged murder of Laken Riley by an undocumented immigrant — to travel widely. But Asher told Popular Information that "discussion of an increasing violent crime trend driven by migrants is lacking in any factual basis." He noted that "violent crime rates in Texas border counties have remained relatively low and below both the rest of Texas and the US as a whole" over the last decade. That is not the kind of data one would expect to see "if a surge in violent crime was being driven by migrants." Therefore, Asher said, "any hypothesized increases in crime committed by migrants is either too small to show up in reported crime data or the hypothesized increases are not occurring."



Researchers who studied the issue have found that undocumented immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than American citizens (https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/03/01/undocumented-immigrant-crime-rate-not-higher/72788637007/). From 2012 to 2022, undocumented immigrants were 14% less likely to be convicted of murder and 41% less likely to be convicted of any criminal offense. Similar research by Michael Light at the University of Wisconsin found lower rates of "homicides, sexual assaults, violent crimes, property crimes, traffic and drug violations" among undocumented immigrants.https://popular.info/p/new-data-explodes-myth-of-crime-wave

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the furore over an immigrant crime wave is racist ooga-booga without any basis in fact



https://popular.info/p/new-data-explodes-myth-of-crime-wave

Sure, Jan.

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Sure, Jan.

Illegal immigrant accused of killing deputy walks free because he didn't know English when resisting arrest (https://www.foxnews.com/us/guatemalan-illegal-migrant-accused-in-sheriff-office-sergeants-death-is-released)
Let us proceed...

[Winehole23]

ooga-booga



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GIzlJYqWUAA-cbs?format=jpg&name=large

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ooga-booga

You can certainly believe States sponsored CNN, that's for sure.

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Supreme Court allows Texas to begin enforcing controversial immigration law




By Devan Cole (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/devan-cole) and John Fritze (https://www.cnn.com/profiles/john-fritze), CNN

Updated 4:48PM EDT, Tue March 19, 2024

https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/240103134510-supreme-court-building-110122-reup.jpg?c=16x9&q=h_270,w_480,c_fill
tee, hee.

[clambake]

I believe the government is still studying the issue of placing landmines along the southern border, as ducks suggested many threads ago; so wait your turn on new ideas.

Supreme Court says go for it, Texas cops.

This will be sadly hilarious!

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Supreme Court says go for it, Texas cops.

This will be sadly hilarious!

Well, at least you didn't claim it was a "good thing."

[FrostKing]

I have a hard time believing this Administration can continue on this policy to Election debates.

China & Russis handle bigger borders.

[ChumpDumper]

I have a hard time believing this Administration can continue on this policy to Election debates.

China & Russis handle bigger borders.

Your party decided to stop border control reform.

You folded.

[clambake]

I have a hard time believing this Administration can continue on this policy to Election debates.

China & Russis handle bigger borders.

Still lying. All you’ve got.

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I have a hard time believing this Administration can continue on this policy to Election debates.

China & Russis handle bigger borders.

Nail 'em up, Frosty.

[Winehole23]

Nice nutshell of right wing attitudes. Conservatives claim their policies appeal to nonwhites, but then they write them off as captives of the Democratic Party and do little to fight for their votes.

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[Winehole23]

Love of the stranger is a foundational feature of Christianity, , not a peculiarly American one as Kirk suggests.

Conservatives twist themselves into pretzels to convince themselves the Bible means the exact opposite of what it says.

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Nice nutshell of right wing attitudes. Conservatives claim their policies appeal to nonwhites, but then they write them off as captives of the Democratic Party and do little to fight for their votes.

1771881103655145725

Because the rock heads wrangle exclusively in the 95% voting block...the Magic Negro wouldn't have it any other way.

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Love of the stranger is a foundational feature of Christianity, , not a peculiarly American one as Kirk suggests.

Conservatives twist themselves into pretzels to convince themselves the Bible means the exact opposite of what it says.

1771260382440468886

...and you too will do the bell & steeple shuffle when the circle game is ready to expel you, Winester. Just as sure as the turnin' of the earth.