Official 2019 MLB Season Thread.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Problem for the Astros is after it's tied up 2-2 tonight, the Nationals still have road field advantage even though tomorrow's game is still @ WAS.

[Millennial_Messiah]

This has all the makings of a backdoor sweep.

nah. Astros might win tomorrow but then the Nats have the advantage in 6 and 7 because of road field advantage.

[GAustex]

Get into the Nats deep bullpen is a recipe for success

[Millennial_Messiah]

BREGMAN GRAND SLAM


Let's bring 'em home in 5 and 6, boys.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Big defensive play by Gurriel, otherwise the Natty Lites get momentum heading into tomorrow.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't get why the Astros don't just go over the Charmin soft salary cap and just bring back Cole? Who cares if you have to pay a luxury tax, it's worth it if it means staying at the top instead of falling back into mediocrity. You're talking paying 9 figures in a 13-figure industry... and winning is far more important than money, tbh.

[Robz4000]

Astros favorites again. Clutch play by their bullpen of all things.

[GAustex]

Impressive performance by Urquiti. He had the Nats off balance and is sneaky fast. No BS throwing strikes.

[Reck]

nah. Astros might win tomorrow but then the Nats have the advantage in 6 and 7 because of road field advantage.





Let's bring 'em home in 5 and 6, boys.

Wut..

[Spurtacular]

nah. Astros might win tomorrow but then the Nats have the advantage in 6 and 7 because of road field advantage.

:lol

[Spurtacular]

The Nats don't have an answer for Robinson Chirinos.
Everyone has an answer for Yordan Alvarez. :lol

[Biggems]

I was not pleased with Hinch going to the pen so early. IMO, he could have used Urquidy for at least 1 more, if not 2 innings. U only threw 60 something pitches and was almost masterful.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I was not pleased with Hinch going to the pen so early. IMO, he could have used Urquidy for at least 1 more, if not 2 innings. U only threw 60 something pitches and was almost masterful.

Is U going to be the game 7 guy?

[GAustex]

Just heard Scherzer scratched. Nats throwing some fresh meat out on the mound.
Things lining up good.

[GAustex]

Fresh meat for Jordan

[GAustex]

DP out of the jam
Cole gots to figure out how to get the kid out

[Spurtacular]

Who the Nats got pitching Game 6 and 7? This series feeling like it's over.

[GAustex]

Strasbourg next and Sertzer if he heals or Sanchez for 7

[Reck]

Just heard Scherzer scratched. Nats throwing some fresh meat out on the mound.
Things lining up good.

LOL lining up good. He's getting owned.

Backdoor sweep it is.

[midnightpulp]

Great. Another one of these boring games where one team races out to the lead early and the trailing team will predictably respond with a litany of strikeouts and pop ups. This theme has defined this pretty uneventful post-season.

[GAustex]

Another 2 run meatball. Wait til Martinez gets into the bullpen.
Cole needs to keep it going.

[midnightpulp]

https://www.12up.com/posts/nationals-staff-seen-boldly-practicing-on-field-trophy-presentation-before-game-3-in-washington-01dr05txhfcq

hmm....

"The planned parade curse." It's been way downhill for the Nats ever since. Scherzer scratched. The Nats scoring only like 1 run over the last 3 games. Etc.

[Reck]

Great. Another one of these boring games where one team races out to the lead early and the trailing team will predictably respond with a litany of strikeouts and pop ups. This theme has defined this pretty uneventful post-season.

:lol Game over by the third inning.

This whole post season was a huge bust. Bunch of nobody teams making it and the end results speaks for themselves.

[GAustex]

:lol Game over by the third inning.

This whole post season was a huge bust. Bunch of nobody teams making it and the end results speaks for themselves.
I got a dog in the hunt so I don’t see it that way.
Yanks and Astros was badass series.

[midnightpulp]

:lol Game over by the third inning.

This whole post season was a huge bust. Bunch of nobody teams making it and the end results speaks for themselves.

I don't mind nobody teams making it, but the games themselves have been dreadful outside of a few good ones (Game 5 of the NLDS, the Altuve walk off, Game 1 of the WS). We love post season baseball because of the improbable rallies and comebacks. I blame pitching. Just too good. You give a Gerritt Cole a 4 run lead and it's basically over 99.9 percent of the time. Pitching has taken a huge leap in just the last 3 or 4 years, with how they use high speed cameras, data, etc. Manfred is too much of a weak willed chickenshit to do anything about it, though. I would like to see the game rebalanced to where an Ace's ERA isn't in the low 2s or high 1s, but around 3 to 3.5.

[GAustex]

I got a dog in the hunt so I don’t see it that way.
Yanks and Astros was badass series.
Nats taking the Dodgers out was cool.

[Spurtacular]

Take Cole out after the fifth inning and save him for a possible Game 7 appearance, tbh.

[MultiTroll]

Sucks that Schezler was a scratch. I was looking forward to a close game.

Stra perfectly capable of tying it up 3-3 tho. I don't think it's "over".

[Robz4000]

:lol calling that a strike

[Millennial_Messiah]

Gerrit Cole solid bounce back tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Such an enormous 5th run Astros.

[Spurtacular]

It's not the Astros' values to tout wife beaters, but they will employ them.

[GAustex]

The sidearm Joe Smith throws strikes which is good. No meatballs please.

[Millennial_Messiah]

That was a HUGE 8th inning with the pitching. Strike out their best guys and now they're down to less intimidating bats for their last chance in the 9th inning.

Road sweet road, baby.

[Millennial_Messiah]

It's not the Astros' values to tout wife beaters, but they will employ them.

still better than faggot Puig, tbh

[GAustex]

That was a HUGE 8th inning with the pitching. Strike out their best guys and now they're down to less intimidating bats for their last chance in the 9th inning.

Road sweet road, baby.
Not so fast young buck. 3, 4 and 5 coming up for the Nats.

[Spurtacular]

still better than faggot Puig, tbh

What did Puig do?

[GAustex]

Whaaaaahaaaaa

[midnightpulp]

:lol calling that a strike

One of the worst umped games in recent memory, all favoring the Astros. I'm not hating on the Astros, but many of those calls prevented the game from being closer and thus more entertaining. If he was going to call that a strike, the pitch to Correa that preceding the homerun should've been called strike three, as well.

[Millennial_Messiah]

SPRINGER NICEY POO

GOOD NIGHT BABY

DAGGER

[Millennial_Messiah]

What did Puig do?

be a loudmouth crybaby faggot every game, tbh... White Harden, too, but to a lesser extent

[GAustex]

Get into the Nats bullpen and make them throw a lot of pitches and good things happen. Shertzer being out was huge

[Millennial_Messiah]

ROAD SWEET ROAD!

3-2.

1.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Not so fast young buck. 3, 4 and 5 coming up for the Nats.
:lol Gnats

[GAustex]

:lol Gnats
Pressly put down

[Millennial_Messiah]

Pressly put down

more like swatted the Gnats. tbh. :toast

[dbestpro]

Nat fans booed Trump. Everyone who boos Trump loses. The curse of Trump continues.

[FrostKing]

Great. Another one of these boring games where one team races out to the lead early and the trailing team will predictably respond with a litany of strikeouts and pop ups. This theme has defined this pretty uneventful post-season.
I have no idea why MLB switched balls. I was expecting a bunch of bullpen meltdowns & late inning heroics

[midnightpulp]

I have no idea why MLB switched balls. I was expecting a bunch of bullpen meltdowns & late inning heroics

I don't think they switched balls. Air is cooler this time of the year and even if the ball is different, I don't think the MLB or anyone can have that precise control over manufacturing tolerances of a handmade product made from leather and string. I think the ball is travelling 4 feet less, per the Cardinals research, so yeah, you'd need tolerances on the level of 1 percent. My concern going forward for the future of the sport is the hits-to-strikeout ratio further increasing and the comeback factor reduced because of that. I looked at some past playoff seasons, and comebacks from 1 run deficits occurred about half the time in most cases. Last I looked for this post-season, it was about 30 percent. And it'll only get worse if strikeout dominant pitching continues its pace.

Manfred is limp wristed, though. I dislike the modern chuckball NBA, but I can respect that the league knew what kind of game the majority of their fans wanted to see and came down hard with rule changes like the very next season to make it happen. It alienated fans like me, but I'm no longer the NBA's core demo. Baseball has some pace of play issues, ball in play issues, strikeout issues, but Manfred continues to twiddle his thumbs. It's frustrating, because the solutions are so simple.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Manfred is limp wristed, though. I dislike the modern chuckball NBA, but I can respect that the league knew what kind of game the majority of their fans wanted to see and came down hard with rule changes like the very next season to make it happen.

I'm in the same boat;

I appreciated 90s ball and early-mid 00s Spurs and Pistons ball. That's what I grew up on. D'Antoni's Suns were fun as hell to watch when they were the anomaly, but that style now being the norm across the NBA makes me sick and has ruined the league for me.

[midnightpulp]

I'm in the same boat;

I appreciated 90s ball and early-mid 00s Spurs and Pistons ball. That's what I grew up on. D'Antoni's Suns were fun as hell to watch when they were the anomaly, but that style now being the norm across the NBA makes me sick and has ruined the league for me.

There's was nothing wrong mid-00s NBA. The league just panicked after the Spurs/Pistons did abysmal ratings and blamed the defensive, low scoring nature of that series for the ratings. When in reality it was because both teams are relatively small media markets. And that era allowed for different styles to exist. The Kings, Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, and Suns all played different styles of basketball. The Kings should probably have a title. And the Suns were a legit threat to the Spurs who simply choked and shot themselves in the foot with the Amare/Diaw situation. You can't play a different style in today's NBA. If you're not shooting around 36% on 30 plus three point attempts per game, you have no chance at contending.

[Millennial_Messiah]

There's was nothing wrong mid-00s NBA. The league just panicked after the Spurs/Pistons did abysmal ratings and blamed the defensive, low scoring nature of that series for the ratings. When in reality it was because both teams are relatively small media markets. And that era allowed for different styles to exist. The Kings, Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, and Suns all played different styles of basketball. The Kings should probably have a title. And the Suns were a legit threat to the Spurs who simply choked and shot themselves in the foot with the Amare/Diaw situation. You can't play a different style in today's NBA. If you're not shooting around 36% on 30 plus three point attempts per game, you have no chance at contending.
Fantastic post.

Mavs actually had the ugliest style in the league after they went from Nash/Nelson to Terry/Avery and went to isoball with Dirk, Josh Howard and Stackhouse.

Early 00s Kings were more like the 2014-18 Warriors offense imo than any other team, Bibby just didn't have quite the shooting % of Curry but similar styles and players overall. Deep team and a ton of motion, cutting, off ball screens and slick passing. Screwed over by the refs and league multiple times. And then the injuries hit and that franchise hasn't seen anything good since. Sad.

Spurs were obviously ran through the inside-out with Timmy alternating with the drive-and-dish with Manu and TP, with consistent elite defense and sometimes hot-and-cold offense which made us a great comeback team but also prone to losing some significant leads.

Suns were a solid defensive team in the Marbury years but then converted to the perennial run-and-gun powerhouse when they swapped him out for Nash. Still a decent defense in terms of DRtg per 100 possessions, but the offense made them special.

Lakers of course were a triangle which meant running the offense through the ball-dominant wing (Kobe) in the high post.


I liked the variation of style, pace and tempo of that era as well. 70% of the battle in those games was about which tempo would carry the day. Obviously when the Suns played the Nelly Mavs or Warriors it was a free-for all and Spurs-Pistons or Pistons-Pacers was always a slugfest, but those inter-style games were great as well. The mid 00s was a great era.

I totally agree with you now that there's just no distinguishing styles anymore as everyone has become a variant of the 14-18 Warriors with the same monotonous gameplan. It's not fun anymore. Coaching these days means very little and the inmates (players) are completely running the asylum now more than ever... both in the game, and even in general management/transactions. As for the game itself today... very little strategy, it's more like a game of War instead of poker.

[MultiTroll]

I don't think this is Houston in the bag at all. Sure, at home their chances are good and i favor them. But if Strasburg kicks ass and Verlander gets dinged enough to pull it off, the atmosphere completely changes. I don't think Cole can or should give it a go in 7. Greinke may well end up being critical either way.

[Millennial_Messiah]

midnightpulp The Utah Jazz I guess are the closest thing we have left to a competitive 1990-2005 style NBA team.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I don't think this is Houston in the bag at all. Sure, at home their chances are good and i favor them. But if Strasburg kicks ass and Verlander gets dinged enough to pull it off, the atmosphere completely changes. I don't think Cole can or should give it a go in 7. Greinke may well end up being critical either way.

I agree. Cole will be a solid bullpen option for Game 7, though. Think Chris Carpenter for the Cardinals in '11.

[Millennial_Messiah]

there's never been a 7 game series in any major US sport where the road team won all 7 games. it would be unheard of.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Welp, enormous Game 6 tonight. Here's to hoping against a 2011 type outcome.

[lefty20]

there's never been a 7 game series in any major US sport where the road team won all 7 games. it would be unheard of.
First time for everything. Let's get it done.

[Robz4000]

Verlander looks like ass. Hope the Astros bats are ready or this is going 7.

[lefty20]

Stras better not be tipping his pitches. He got shelled that inning, even the outs.

[Arcadian]

Fantastic post.

Mavs actually had the ugliest style in the league after they went from Nash/Nelson to Terry/Avery and went to isoball with Dirk, Josh Howard and Stackhouse.

Early 00s Kings were more like the 2014-18 Warriors offense imo than any other team, Bibby just didn't have quite the shooting % of Curry but similar styles and players overall. Deep team and a ton of motion, cutting, off ball screens and slick passing. Screwed over by the refs and league multiple times. And then the injuries hit and that franchise hasn't seen anything good since. Sad.

Spurs were obviously ran through the inside-out with Timmy alternating with the drive-and-dish with Manu and TP, with consistent elite defense and sometimes hot-and-cold offense which made us a great comeback team but also prone to losing some significant leads.

Suns were a solid defensive team in the Marbury years but then converted to the perennial run-and-gun powerhouse when they swapped him out for Nash. Still a decent defense in terms of DRtg per 100 possessions, but the offense made them special.

Lakers of course were a triangle which meant running the offense through the ball-dominant wing (Kobe) in the high post.


I liked the variation of style, pace and tempo of that era as well. 70% of the battle in those games was about which tempo would carry the day. Obviously when the Suns played the Nelly Mavs or Warriors it was a free-for all and Spurs-Pistons or Pistons-Pacers was always a slugfest, but those inter-style games were great as well. The mid 00s was a great era.

I totally agree with you now that there's just no distinguishing styles anymore as everyone has become a variant of the 14-18 Warriors with the same monotonous gameplan. It's not fun anymore. Coaching these days means very little and the inmates (players) are completely running the asylum now more than ever... both in the game, and even in general management/transactions. As for the game itself today... very little strategy, it's more like a game of War instead of poker.

Now that the Warriors dynasty is over, styles are going to diversify more. That's why this NBA season is pretty exciting - for the first time in years, nobody knows what's gonna happen. And the Spurs are off to a good start :tu

[midnightpulp]

God level ab by RenGOD

[midnightpulp]

Now that the Warriors dynasty is over, styles are going to diversify more. That's why this NBA season is pretty exciting - for the first time in years, nobody knows what's gonna happen. And the Spurs are off to a good start :tu

The math of the 3 pointer is just too powerful for styles to diversify. League 3 point attempts are even higher this season. We won't see something like the 4 down Spurs face off against the SSOL Suns anytime soon

[GAustex]

Too bad Verlander is not as sharp as he can be. Good theater for this game so far.

[AussieFanKurt]

Holy fuck SOTO you big cunt!

[midnightpulp]

Now this a fuckin baseball game. None of that 5-1 horseshit

[Reck]

Goddamn Verlander is trash.

:lmao 0-6

[AussieFanKurt]

Goddamn Verlander is trash.

:lmao 0-6

I guess at least he's been good in DS and CS... but yeah pretty fucking shit. Kershaw is still worse imo

[GAustex]

Strasbourg get ahead and then that down and away slider is hard to lay off.

[GAustex]

Poor really poor ab by Altuve

[AussieFanKurt]

Has there been any hotties flashing their titties this game? :bobo

[midnightpulp]

Strasburg making clutch pitches.

[midnightpulp]

Strasbourg get ahead and then that down and away slider is hard to lay off.

He sets up the change and slider beautifully off his fastball location. The fastball to set up Correa for the strikeout before this one was pitch of the year for the Nats. Might be a season saver, since Stros had men on 2nd and 3rd

[midnightpulp]

Nats have to be all in. Strasburg gets in any trouble, you bring in Scherzer

[Reck]

Yikes the Umpires want this as close as possible. Terrible and probably defining call of the series.

[midnightpulp]

These umps have been absolutely putrid. Worst umped playoff series in history

[GAustex]

Well I got Texas dog in this hunt but I ain’t seeing that call

[GAustex]

Being a lefty I played first a lot and this happens often. Got to get off the bag and get the ball.

[lefty20]

Ball don't lie.

[midnightpulp]

RenGOD says fuck the umps. I'll do it myself

[Reck]

Oh look, it's like the Baseball gods said, fuck you umpires, this ain't it.

[baseline bum]

What a bullshit call

[GAustex]

Strasbourg is studding out

[midnightpulp]

RenGOD doing RenGOD things

[GAustex]

Road teams taking first 6 games when Nats hold this one. Odd

[Darth_Pelican]

:lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/KateUpton/status/1189374113627938817?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://mobile.twitter.com/KateUpton/status/1189374113627938817?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

[GAustex]

‘Stros hopes on Greinke. Gulp!

[Reck]

Game 7 is a fact, ladies.

Rendom is ridiculous.

[MultiTroll]

‘Stros hopes on Greinke. Gulp!
Eh even with his so so postseason history he throws a very good game 2 out of 3 times consistently.
Stros bats are so inconsistent. Related, they simply will not sacrifice and their pitchers will do some macho bullshit instead of letting go of a better batter for the next batter. Altuves ab was the key play of the game. Likewise Verlander should have let it go when behind Toto.

(Respect for Stra and Rendon tho.)

[midnightpulp]

:lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/KateUpton/status/1189374113627938817?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet (https://mobile.twitter.com/KateUpton/status/1189374113627938817?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)
:lol

[midnightpulp]

Rendon really imposed his will on that game offensively and defensively. Just beautiful to watch. I'm sure Bregman is seething.

[lefty20]

Stras better not be tipping his pitches. He got shelled that inning, even the outs.
https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/dp1jfl/stras_post_game_is_saying_was_tipped_off_that_he/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[midnightpulp]

https://www.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/dp1jfl/stras_post_game_is_saying_was_tipped_off_that_he/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Good catch.

[MultiTroll]

Excellent call.

Stop whining. And Fox showing babyface 100Xs. FOH.

[AussieFanKurt]

So ridiculous that Bregman felt he had to apologise ...

[AussieFanKurt]

https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1187132247217856512

[Reck]

So ridiculous that Bregman felt he had to apologise ...

Pathetic tbh. The SJWs are running this country into the ground.

The bat flip that puig does is 100x more repugnant. Everytime I see that guy do that I want to punch him in the face.

This was nothing.

[MultiTroll]

Welp, who wins tonight?
Trend seems to be whomever seems likely to win will not.
Lots think WA has all the momentum now and Schezler on the mound.

Nope. I'm going with Houston. If WA completes the road sweep then congratulations to them.

[FrostKing]

I predict the difference in bullpen quality finally makes an imprint on the series

[Arcadian]

So holding your bat slightly longer than normal is considered a big insult? :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

The math of the 3 pointer is just too powerful for styles to diversify. League 3 point attempts are even higher this season. We won't see something like the 4 down Spurs face off against the SSOL Suns anytime soon

that and the NBA's dumb rule changes calling ticky tack fouls for everything even a long way from the basket, and resetting the shot clock to 14 instead of 24 after an offensive rebound also artificially inflates scores.

[Robz4000]

Whoever wins tonight does so in a blowout imo.

[MultiTroll]

So holding your bat slightly longer than normal is considered a big insult? :lol
Some ancient old phuck custom.

But this carrying it to 1b. WTF is that all about? I thought maybe he was going to collect it for future sale or keepsake. But then that could easily be done back in the dugout. Ya sure seems like major phaggotry move. I see where Bergman apologized. But Soto thought it was pretty cool, decided to do it himself. More self absorbed phaggotry coming our way in MLB along with the rest of
:lol Todays Sports?

[FrostKing]

Some ancient old phuck custom.

But this carrying it to 1b. WTF is that all about? I thought maybe he was going to collect it for future sale or keepsake. But then that could easily be done back in the dugout. Ya sure seems like major phaggotry move. I see where Bergman apologized. But Soto thought it was pretty cool, decided to do it himself. More self absorbed phaggotry coming our way in MLB along with the rest of
:lol Todays Sports?
MLB thinks it will increase viewership. You see it in their advertising "we play loud". They add the young angle to try and not make it so race based. Hey, America is turning brown and assuming people of similar skin color will be drawn to that isn't a bad gamble. I personally would stomach the NFL/NBA product more if it were whiter.

But I think it is short sighted if MLB doesn't also expect the increased controversy that comes with it. Whether it be bringing social awareness or just more arrogance on & off the field. Earlier I clicked on ESPN1 "Black QBs Wahoo" and then ESPN2 "Irving wouldn't be judged this way if he were White". Click and click. MLB avoids this stuff and keeps me tuned in. Dunno how much longer that will last though. Eventually the brown players will out number whites and then we will be forced to "be aware" of their struggle and their social/cultural norms etc etc

[Millennial_Messiah]

This is fucking ridiculous, but road sweet road it is.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Tonight is for all the marbles. Go Astros tbh.

[GAustex]

So holding your bat slightly longer than normal is considered a big insult? :lol
Not an insult but more “showing ur opponent up” which I do not care about personally.
My take is Bergman and his banty rooster attitude is stupid. You do not do that. You act like you been there and Do Not Piss Shaq off. He pissed off his opponent off and that did his team no favors.

Put your head down and run around the bases and celebrate in the dugout.

[midnightpulp]

MLB thinks it will increase viewership. You see it in their advertising "we play loud". They add the young angle to try and not make it so race based. Hey, America is turning brown and assuming people of similar skin color will be drawn to that isn't a bad gamble. I personally would stomach the NFL/NBA product more if it were whiter.

But I think it is short sighted if MLB doesn't also expect the increased controversy that comes with it. Whether it be bringing social awareness or just more arrogance on & off the field. Earlier I clicked on ESPN1 "Black QBs Wahoo" and then ESPN2 "Irving wouldn't be judged this way if he were White". Click and click. MLB avoids this stuff and keeps me tuned in. Dunno how much longer that will last though. Eventually the brown players will out number whites and then we will be forced to "be aware" of their struggle and their social/cultural norms etc etc

:lol Why? In our past discussions about race, I've explained how nonsense of a concept it really is, and that skin color is merely a surface phenotypical trait just like height, hair color, and eye color. At the fundamental genetic level, you might be closer to Lebron James than to Gordon Haywood. Maybe your problem is cultural? I personally don't like aggressive urban rap culture that has come to define the NBA, and to an extent, the NFL. Doesn't mean I don't like "black culture," as I have a great affinity for the Blues, Jazz, Soul, and Funk, and some forms of Hip-Hop, but shit like trap music and its culture is garbage. I seriously doubt you'd have a problem if the MLB was filled with Tony Gwynns and Fred McGriffs. Or the NBA filled with David Robinsons.

And yes, I do agree modern media stokes this shit by making EVERYTHING about race, digging for any racial angle they can find. It's what unfortunately gets clicks and twitter followers today.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Why? In our past discussions about race, I've explained how nonsense of a concept it really is, and that skin color is merely a surface phenotypical trait just like height, hair color, and eye color. At the fundamental genetic level, you might be closer to Lebron James than to Gordon Haywood. Maybe your problem is cultural? I personally don't like aggressive urban rap culture that has come to define the NBA, and to an extent, the NFL. Doesn't mean I don't like "black culture," as I have a great affinity for the Blues, Jazz, Soul, and Funk, and some forms of Hip-Hop, but shit like trap music and its culture is garbage. I seriously doubt you'd have a problem if the MLB was filled with Tony Gwynns and Fred McGriffs. Or the NBA filled with David Robinsons.

And yes, I do agree modern media stokes this shit by making EVERYTHING about race, digging for any racial angle they can find. It's what unfortunately gets clicks and twitter followers today.
People are naturally racist. Just like they are naturally greedy for money. It's an unfortunate reality of humanity that we must accept.

[midnightpulp]

People are naturally racist. Just like they are naturally greedy for money. It's an unfortunate reality of humanity that we must accept.

I would say people are naturally "culturalist." Europe warred over cultural differences for a 1000 years, despite everyone being "white." I'd be rather be friends with a black guy into Jazz and who had the personality of David Robinson than with a person "who looked like me" that acted like Chief Keef.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I would say people are naturally "culturalist." Europe warred over cultural differences for a 1000 years, despite everyone being "white." I'd be rather be friends with a black guy into Jazz and who had the personality of David Robinson than with a person "who looked like me" that acted like Chief Keef.

Eminem, Macklemore, Jason Williams etc. examples. White trash are definitely out there.


Look at Hindoostan Inja and their shitty caste system. They don't even let their children marry and procreate with someone of a different caste even if they are all Indian and Hindu.

[FrostKing]

:lol Why? In our past discussions about race, I've explained how nonsense of a concept it really is, and that skin color is merely a surface phenotypical trait just like height, hair color, and eye color. At the fundamental genetic level, you might be closer to Lebron James than to Gordon Haywood. Maybe your problem is cultural? I personally don't like aggressive urban rap culture that has come to define the NBA, and to an extent, the NFL. Doesn't mean I don't like "black culture," as I have a great affinity for the Blues, Jazz, Soul, and Funk, and some forms of Hip-Hop, but shit like trap music and its culture is garbage. I seriously doubt you'd have a problem if the MLB was filled with Tony Gwynns and Fred McGriffs. Or the NBA filled with David Robinsons.

And yes, I do agree modern media stokes this shit by making EVERYTHING about race, digging for any racial angle they can find. It's what unfortunately gets clicks and twitter followers today.
There is a debate in European circles whether it is better accepting migrants with cultural or racial similarities.

Your post is correct but I imagine the modern black athlete would label those players you listed as uncle toms. Players today have more financial and social freedom. I personally tend to be turned off by this but there are plenty of people that love this "empowering".

The main problem to me is that black players feel pressure to assimilate to the cultural majority (which we both tend to dislike). So the line between racial and cultural is blurred. You have outliers such as Travis Kielce but guys tend to fall in line with their racial norms.

[Arcadian]

I would say people are naturally "culturalist." Europe warred over cultural differences for a 1000 years, despite everyone being "white." I'd be rather be friends with a black guy into Jazz and who had the personality of David Robinson than with a person "who looked like me" that acted like Chief Keef.

:tu Thank you for saying this - I often make this point in conversation as well. Race and culture are so conflated in the minds of many. Someone might even incorrectly think of themself as racist, when really what they discriminate against is culturally propagated behavior.

[AussieFanKurt]

Well this thread took a turn over night

[GAustex]

Yuli with the first of many I hope

[GAustex]

Paid major leaguers who can’t bunt
Sheess

[Reck]

Hope Astros dont bust this open in the second.

Then again, if they do I can go watch something else and forget about this shitty playoffs this year.

[GAustex]

Dawd dummit

[midnightpulp]

Stros are on everything Scherzer is throwing. Not looking good.

[midnightpulp]

Hope Astros dont bust this open in the second.

Then again, if they do I can go watch something else and forget about this shitty playoffs this year.

Dodged the kill shot there. Greinke is pitch to contact so the Nats should be able to get something going soon

[Reck]

Dodged the kill shot there. Greinke is pitch to contact so the Nats should be able to get something going soon

Let's hope.

Greinke ain't fucking around. He's averaging 7 or so pitches per inning thus far.

[GAustex]

It’s time to run a train on these Nats

[Reck]

Martines has to be thinking about getting Scherzer the fuck outta of there. This game in on the edge of being busted open.

[midnightpulp]

Yordan has taken a quantum leap as a hitter from the ALCS. That change up take was elite. Didn't even flinch
Then almost goes yard

[Reck]

Greinke cant do no wrong.

[GAustex]

Come back to get RenGod was crucial, clutch and pretty cool

[monosylab1k]

Yeah there’s no way Houston blows this. You can tell by the body language on both sides. Astros all walk up with confidence and swagger, Nationals all look tight and jittery.

[GAustex]

Hang some more on Scherzer now

[Reck]

Astros are looking good for the win but they’re playing with fire a little bit by leaving so many men on bases. This game should be out of reach by now but they really haven’t made Scherzer pay enough.

[Robz4000]

Astros are gonna lose. Too many duds in clutch situations tonight. Too bad for Greinke since he's pitched a gem thus far.

[Robz4000]

Welp

[Millennial_Messiah]

FAIR BABY FAIR JOE BUCK!!!

DOWN GOES SCHERZER

[Millennial_Messiah]

Scherzer with over 100, Greinke with less than half of that, 2-0 it's game over.

[Millennial_Messiah]

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Zack Greinke with five assists, matching Carmelo Anthony’s career high.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Another WOW 1-2-3 inning for Greinke, even though that last pitch should have been a ball for 1-2, such a masterpiece.

[GAustex]

Good grief how long does AJ stick with Greinke?

[midnightpulp]

Collapse by the Nats offense. Greinke has been sharp but not 1 hit 60 pitches over 6 sharp

[Millennial_Messiah]

If Greinke goes nine full with zero runs I'll give a thousand bucks to everyone in this thread.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Good grief how long does AJ stick with Greinke?

he's only got 65 pitches. Could go nine-full.

[midnightpulp]

I don't the Nats even hit a hard foul ball all game :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Gnats going to that bullpen already.

[AussieFanKurt]

Why do the umps hate the Nats

[monosylab1k]

It’s the Nationals, how did we ever think they had a chance? They’re the NL Rangers, constantly looking for bigger and more painful ways to gut punch their fanbase.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Welp that sucked.

[GAustex]

Altuve dropping turds in his ABs

[Millennial_Messiah]

Why do the umps hate the Nats

:lol let's blame the umps/refs now

[Millennial_Messiah]

Altuve dropping turds in his ABs

...but if the Gnats come back to tie it by the 9th, there's no one else you'd take over that guy to hit the all time legacy thrilling walkoff.

[monosylab1k]

...but if the Gnats come back to tie it by the 9th, there's no one else you'd take over that guy to hit the all time legacy thrilling walkoff.

I’d take Springer. I fully expect him to homer every time he’s at bat.

[midnightpulp]

RenGOD doing deified things.

[GAustex]

Rats

[Millennial_Messiah]

fuck the 7th inning, tbh

[Millennial_Messiah]

If Greinke goes nine full with zero runs I'll give a thousand bucks to everyone in this thread.

My bank account is safe.

[midnightpulp]

I’d take Springer. I fully expect him to homer every time he’s at bat.

The entire Astros lineup feels like that. Even duds like Chirinos start hitting when they go to the Astros.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Greinke had enough pitches left to go nine-full if he hadn't fucked up against Rendon and Soto though

[Millennial_Messiah]

The entire Astros lineup feels like that. Even duds like Chirinos start hitting when they go to the Astros.

always feels like that with the Yanx every year since the dawn of time tbh

[Robz4000]

Think this is where the Nats go off. After this inning it'll be 4-2.

[Millennial_Messiah]

FUCK

[AussieFanKurt]

KENDRICK!!!! WOW !

[midnightpulp]

Wow!

[GAustex]

Greinke owned Kendrick this game
Second guessing but damnit

[Millennial_Messiah]

Soto is gay, but the dugout dance was pretty cool

Harris is a Neftali Feliz level choker

[midnightpulp]

Astros are gonna lose. Too many duds in clutch situations tonight. Too bad for Greinke since he's pitched a gem thus far.

How do you keep calling this shit? :lol

[Robz4000]

Predictable. Nats are the team of destiny but the Astros have no one to blame but themselves.

[Millennial_Messiah]

And yet again the home team falls apart all in 1 inning.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Gerrit Cole time tbh.

[midnightpulp]

Predictable. Nats are the team of destiny but the Astros have no one to blame but themselves.

Dumb move by Hinch. Greinke was only at 80 pitches.

[baseline bum]

Astros deserve this shit for pulling a fresh Greinke.

[GAustex]

And most the time Harris was pretty reliable

[Robz4000]

How do you keep calling this shit? :lol

Nats have been comeback kids all season while the Astros' MO has been to score early and pray they can hold the lead.

[baseline bum]

One fucking guy hits the ball hard against Greinke and you fucking pull him after a walk? smh

[monosylab1k]

Astros still got this. Their lineup is clutch AF. Springer or Bregman answer back.

[Reck]

FAIR BABY FAIR JOE BUCK!!!

DOWN GOES SCHERZER

Dude you’re worse than Lefty. Jynx meister.

[Robz4000]

:lmao and they brought in Osuna

[Millennial_Messiah]

Dumb move by Hinch. Greinke was only at 80 pitches.

yep

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lmao and they brought in Osuna

and now the cocky ass Gnats are fighting off his fastballs foul. Smh

[Reck]

Told you guys Astros were playing with fire. They keep leaving players stranded on base. Said it last game it only takes the mats one inning to put up a big number.

[monosylab1k]

Nationals needed to make this a 2+ run game. That lead is going away quick.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Told you guys Astros were playing with fire. They keep leaving players stranded on base. Said it last game it only takes the mats one inning to put up a big number.

Altuve should have gotten some RBIs, yeah, but what ever happened to the classic legendary 2-0 and 1-0 final score games? I thought that was how this game was headed before Rendon bulled a *Derek Fisher* shocker.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Nationals needed to make this a 2+ run game. That lead is going away quick.

I don't think so man. I'm 100% confident the score ends the way it is.

[monosylab1k]

I don't think so man. I'm 100% confident the score ends the way it is.

Altuve or Bregman homer right here

[Millennial_Messiah]

the Astros just keep hitting boring ass gloveballs. It's over

[Millennial_Messiah]

Altuve or Bregman homer right here

Altuve is nowhere near coming up to bat, he went out to end the 6th

[Robz4000]

Regardless of who wins, this will be an epic choke job by the loser. Nats went home with a 2-0 lead and the Astros had a 3-2 lead going home.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Regardless of who wins, this will be an epic choke job by the loser. Nats went home with a 2-0 lead and the Astros had a 3-2 lead going home.

Nah, road field advantage has been the theme of the series.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Alvarez is going to strikeout

[Robz4000]

:lol Alvarez

[Millennial_Messiah]

10 stranded baserunners vs. 3. Sheesh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

^ difference in the game.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Time for Cole to have 2 good innings here, and the Asstros are down to 6 batters as well. Not looking good. Still most likely outcome is the game ends 3-2.

[monosylab1k]

Washington’s bullpen isn’t getting 6 more outs against this lineup. Just not happening.

[GAustex]

Corbin May finish

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol :bang Osuna still in the game. Hinch tanking for Tua like the Dolphins, tbh

[Reck]

Time for Cole to have 2 good innings here, and the Asstros are down to 6 batters as well. Not looking good. Still most likely outcome is the game ends 3-2.

They said Cole is going to test FA. I hope Boston goes in on him.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Houston already beat Washington today. Final score was 159-158 with no overtimes :lmao Harden had 59 points

[Millennial_Messiah]

They said Cole is going to test FA. I hope Boston goes in on him.

Astros would be smart to trade Verlander to save cap space and keep Cole.

[DMX7]

It would be crazy if the road team won all 7 games of this series especially given that the Astros have the best home record in MLB.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Houston already beat Washington today. Final score was 159-158 with no overtimes :lmao Harden had 59 points

Highest scoring regulation game in NBA history with no OT sessions. Bound to happen in modern era.

[GAustex]

Osuna needs to nut up and not wimp out

[Millennial_Messiah]

It would be crazy if the road team won all 7 games of this series especially given that the Astros have the best home record in MLB.

Would be the first time in major pro sporting history for the road team to win all 7 games of any 7 game series.

[Millennial_Messiah]

oh and, did I not mention that Soto is gay? :lol

[AussieFanKurt]

Fuck yes Nats... Soto for WS MVP

[Millennial_Messiah]

ugh. Soto is really gay. Faggot

[Robz4000]

Just adding salt to the wound.

[GAustex]

I guess that kid is good

[DMX7]

You leave that many runners on base and you're probably going to pay for it. Astros still have a chance here though.

[GAustex]

Fuck yes Nats... Soto for WS MVP
Strasbourg?

[Millennial_Messiah]

Soto with the gay smile on 1st base

[Reck]

Osuna is really trash. I thought you guys were just been..well ST. :lol

[Millennial_Messiah]

Now Soto is gay on 3rd. SMH

[AussieFanKurt]

:lol Osuna.. DV cunt

[GAustex]

When really need it
Osuna comes up short

[Millennial_Messiah]

Osuna is really trash. I thought you guys were just been..well ST. :lol

Osuna is worse than 2011 Neftali Feliz. And Soto is gay


Seriously... why didn't AJ Flinch just go with Cole when Greinke started to lose it?

[Reck]

You leave that many runners on base and you're probably going to pay for it. Astros still have a chance here though.

Unless they hit mega bombs, there is no way.

Stros gotta go for the HR now.

[AussieFanKurt]

oh and, did I not mention that Soto is gay? :lol

are you jealous that he isn't a midget and is looking at a lot of money in his career?

[monosylab1k]

They better get another run here, a 2 run lead won’t cut it.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I guess that kid is gay

Fixed

[Millennial_Messiah]

are you jealous that he isn't a midget and is looking at a lot of money in his career?

I'm over a half a head taller than Altuve at least. But Soto is gay

[Millennial_Messiah]

They better get another run here, a 2 run lead won’t cut it.

pretty sure the Astros will be 3 and out these next two innings. Won't get more than 2 points. Chokers.

[DMX7]

Unless they hit mega bombs, there is no way.

Stros gotta go for the HR now.

It's a 2 run lead, not an 8 run lead.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Unless they hit mega bombs, there is no way.

Stros gotta go for the HR now.
Yep. And Cole has to be the guy in the 9th. He has all winter to rest his arm. Plus the Astros might not even re-sign him, which would be fucking stupid.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Soto for Grindr MVP

[monosylab1k]

If one guy gets on base for Springer, he’s cranking it out of Harris County.

[Millennial_Messiah]

TERRIBLE CALL

that was a ball ALL the way and it wasn't close

[GAustex]

Ump has been good but that one was not

[Reck]

Joe Bucks makes me cheer for the Nationals even more. The bias for the Astros is unreal and annoying.

[Millennial_Messiah]

If one guy gets on base for Springer, he’s cranking it out of Harris County.

and if not and he does, a solo HR won't matter

[Millennial_Messiah]

Choke-rinos

[Millennial_Messiah]

2 down 4 to go, shit

[Millennial_Messiah]

3 down 3 to go... fuck Corbin... and Soto is gay.

[Chris Fall]

monojinx in full effect.

[Reck]

It's a 2 run lead, not an 8 run lead.

Homers...like I said.

Even if the Astros go on a successful rally, You're looking at maybe tying it.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Joe Bucks makes me cheer for the Nationals even more. The bias for the Astros is unreal and annoying.

Nothing like when he is the play-by-play commentator for Packers games with Aaron Rodgers' schlong up three quarters of his mouth

[monosylab1k]

:lol having all of Murderers’ Row 2.0 in play for the bottom of the 9th. Washington better put this thing out of reach right now.

[DMX7]

Homers...like I said.

Even if the Astros go on a successful rally, You're looking at maybe tying it.

I got to admit, it feels like a 8 run lead now.

[Millennial_Messiah]

No Cole, I guess Flinch has accepted defeat. Vagina. Soto is gay. Fuck it

[midnightpulp]

Hinch is a tard. You gamble with Cole here.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol having all of Murderers’ Row 2.0 in play for the bottom of the 9th. Washington better put this thing out of reach right now.

no, Shitstrows are going to go 1-2-3 and finish with 2 runs like the choke city they are

[Robz4000]

Hinch is a tard. You gamble with Cole here.

He should be fired after this disaster tbh. Not that it's all his fault since he didn't leave all those baserunners on.

[Millennial_Messiah]

I got to admit, it feels like a 8 run lead now.

Gnats up 2 and Soto is gay for the other 6.

[Chris Fall]

Hinch is a tard. You gamble with Cole here.

Mind boggling. What are you saving him for? And you can’t play for extra innings when you’re DOWN two runs.

Fucking retarded is right.

[td4mvp2k]

:lol pulling greinke

[Millennial_Messiah]

He should be fired after this disaster tbh. Not that it's all his fault since he didn't leave all those baserunners on.

going home up 3-2 and losing is an automatic axing tbh.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Mind boggling. What are you saving him for? And you can’t play for extra innings when you’re DOWN two runs.

Fucking retarded is right.

even down 1. fucking retarded

[Reck]

Everytime I see a submariner pitching I ask do we still have those? For some reason every time I see one, they get hammered.

Hitters seem to like 'em.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol pulling greinke

Such a Disgrace.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Everytime I see a submariner pitching I ask do we still have those? For some reason every time I see one, they get hammered.

Hitters seem to like 'em.
:lol granny pitching ...almost as gay as Soto

[monosylab1k]

Do or die for Washington here. Astros putting up a triple next inning, you better be up 4.

[DMX7]

:lol pulling greinke

LOL, seriously. He was rolling -- big deal if he gives up 2 base runners. It's going to happen at some point, but he shouldn't have been pulled.

[Millennial_Messiah]

Do or die for Washington here. Astros putting up a triple next inning, you better be up 4.

:lol crofl at the jinx attempt

Bet yer booty that these chokers go 1-2-3 in the bottom of the 9th. Altuve is Mighty Casey.

[Millennial_Messiah]

:lol Urquidy almost gave up a run off the bat by hitting the guy. Why didn't the batter just take the hit for his team?