Woj: Marcus Morris Reneging on Agreement with Spurs?

[r0drig0lac]

the franchise being humiliated in every way, this is really sad at this point.

[John B]

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:lmao
:lmao that’s fucked up

[Mr. Body]

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I thought he got a player option second year. This looks horrible for him. If he thinks no one will remember this next summer...

[MannyIsGod]

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:lmao

Not gonna lie that's funny AF

[Dex]

If Morris doesn't sign I think the Spurs have a shot legally to at least fight for the exception in dealing Bertans. There is plausible damage there. But I don't think the Spurs will pursue something like that.

No way that happens. Washington was a willing party too...what Morris did to the Spurs is bullshit, but the league isn't going to punish the Wizards for Klutch and Morris' bad handling.

The Bertans trade is done. Period.

[Ocotillo]

Well, let's hope he ends up doing the right thing and sticking to his word. An agreement with the Knicks has not been announced yet so who knows. Spurs still have to explore alternatives in case it does turn belly up.

Don't feel like joking around but maybe sign up Zaza and put in the lineup when we play the Knicks......

[slick'81]

I mean fuuuuuuuuuuuck

[SAGirl]

Popovich is beside himself. Driving around downtown Boston begging ( thru telegraph) Morris' family for address to Marcus' home.
I definitely thought of the Mavs and Deandre Jordan... Though there have been some less high profile players or teams reneging on deals.

[exstatic]

LeBron is just an NBA player. WTH? :lol

LeBron OWNS Klutch. He's much more than "just an NBA player"

[Dex]

I thought he got a player option second year. This looks horrible for him. If he thinks no one will remember this next summer...

As if integrity means anything in t:lolday's NBA.

[RC_Drunkford]

The difference after taxes is only 1.2 million. There should be no reason at all for him to sign with NY. Technically he could opt out and Spurs can resign him and give him the additional money the next year

[spurraider21]

I believe Carlos Boozer's agency dropped him after he broke his word, and what he did wasn't close to this bad. This is a serious breach of what an agency should do.
pelinka resigned as his agent, because he didnt want to lose the respect of GM's around the league, as somebody who may advise his client to pull such shenanigans. but he has no legal obligation or fiduciary duty to do so.

klutch and rich paul dont give a shit. they have lebron/AD, etc. they call the shots and the league is their bitch, and they know it

[DJR210]

I'm really starting to wonder what in the actual fuck is going on with PATFO.. why the fuck would we make all these moves withoutbrequiring a god damn signature?? Jesus

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No way that happens. Washington was a willing party too...what Morris did to the Spurs is bullshit, but the league isn't going to punish the Wizards for Klutch and Morris' bad handling.

The Bertans trade is done. Period.

I think he's just saying the league should give us a traded player exemption in the amount of Bertans deal as compensation, not that it should be voided (the trade).

[Spurs da champs]

Damned if they do, damnde if they don't. I'm sure they'd love to tell him and his agent to go fuck themselves, but they're screwed at this point if he reneges. If not, they'd they have to kowtow to a role player. Disgusting.

I'd be tempted to go with the former anyway.

If PATFO wanna stay 'competitive' they have no choice but to do the latter. I mean get in his head, down year or injury you dont have that security of $20 million with the 2nd year PO. He cant showcase himself in NY.

[ECOV]

Acting like RP fucked up the spurs and rc lmao get tf out of here

[Marcus Bryant]

Fucking fuck.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

No way that happens. Washington was a willing party too...what Morris did to the Spurs is bullshit, but the league isn't going to punish the Wizards for Klutch and Morris' bad handling.

The Bertans trade is done. Period.

I'm not talking about fucking Washington or trying to take back Bertans - all of that is done and those parties didn't hurt the Spurs. It's either against Morris or getting it from the league itself.

[acoelho1]

I don't get the Knicks interest after already signing 3 power forwards. At least it's not yet a done deal so hopefully RC works his magic because Morris would be a perfect fit on this team. Although, him pulling this crap makes me question if he's Spurs material.

[YoungbuckMurray]

I think he's just saying the league should give us a traded player exemption in the amount of Bertans deal as compensation, not that it should be voided (the trade).

I think we should get this too, but won't happen. Maybe if we were the Lakers

[timtonymanu]

As if integrity means anything in t:lolday's NBA.

:tu

[FkLA]

this is the problem with somebody like rich paul having this much power. usually agents are attorneys who are professional and well versed. rich paul is an amateur who fell into the role as lebron's agent and picked up form there

Yeah man, I fucking hate uneducated coattail riders like LeBron's posse, Uncle Dennis, Kyrie's dad, Lavar, etc. Motherfuckers think that because they have a connection to a guy that's really good at basketball they're somehow qualified to be professional agents.

[slick'81]

I'm really starting to wonder what in the actual fuck is going on with PATFO.. why the fuck would we make all these moves withoutbrequiring a god damn signature?? Jesus

spurs def blindsided.its like ny saw the spurs got him and were like well we still have $$ why not go after that guy:flipoff:flipoff

[Atl Spur]

:lmao :lmao Spurms fans. This is what you salty faggots get. Karma this and karma that for Kawhi, looks like the Karma is coming the Spurs way. LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOO :lmao :lmao

That’s cute.... you must be a sad fella in your day to day life! The floor is yours my guy.

[SpurOutofTownFan]

I think he's just saying the league should give us a traded player exemption in the amount of Bertans deal as compensation, not that it should be voided (the trade).

Right

[EricB]

I'm really starting to wonder what in the actual fuck is going on with PATFO.. why the fuck would we make all these moves withoutbrequiring a god damn signature?? Jesus


You cant get the signature until the moves are made. That’s how the damn CBA works

[FkLA]

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:lmao

That reply is savage but is it just me or does that Hardwood Paroxysm account have it out for the Spurs? That's the same account that thought it was ridiculous that Spurfan thought we could be a Top 4 seed in the West (before Morris reneged).

[TDomination]

The knicks trying to get back at us for 99’

[Atl Spur]

Yeah man, I fucking hate uneducated coattail riders like LeBron's posse, Uncle Dennis, Kyrie's dad, Lavar, etc. Motherfuckers think that because they have a connection to a guy that's really good at basketball they're somehow qualified to be professional agents.


I wouldn’t go that far homie; inexperienced yes but uneducated may be a bridge to far.

[toki9]

None of this happens without the Knicks offering that deal, i.e., respect the deals that other teams had made.

[exstatic]

The difference after taxes is only 1.2 million. There should be no reason at all for him to sign with NY. Technically he could opt out and Spurs can resign him and give him the additional money the next year

I don't think he was really in the Spurs plans after this year. That 2/$20M contract was always designed for him to opt out. Next year's FA class is almost non-existent, and he would get far more money than the Spurs could offer, or maybe would even want to offer. That's why he's looking so hard at NY. Any contract he signs is in reality a one year deal.

[cd98]

Yeah man, I fucking hate uneducated coattail riders like LeBron's posse, Uncle Dennis, Kyrie's dad, Lavar, etc. Motherfuckers think that because they have a connection to a guy that's really good at basketball they're somehow qualified to be professional agents.

Yes, but they don't play by the rules and they get away with it. What are the Spurs going to do? How are they going to get even? They can certainly say they will never sign Marcus Morris to a contract ever again, but he has 29 other cities and it won't matter until he's 36 and praying for a team to sign him. Paul has nothing to fear because the Spurs aren't going to blacklist him for this, especially with Dejounte. But Dejounte better hope he has an all star season.

[DJR210]

You cant get the signature until the moves are made. That’s how the damn CBA works

The lockout for the next CBA is probably gonna be a long one.. One would think the owners are really going to push for rules to take loopholes and take this power away from players and their agents

[Joseph Kony]

I wouldn’t go that far homie; inexperienced yes but uneducated may be a bridge to far.
i was listening to this guy actually speak in an interview of Sirius XM yesterday...he's a complete moron

[Mugen]

As spurraider21 pointed out, this is the issue when you have hood ass niggas that sold fake jerseys out of their trunk masquerading as professionals....

Nobody should be surprised by this and I really hope that they ship Murray out as soon as he ups his value. The decision is clear, this proves it tbh...

[FkLA]

I wouldn’t go that far homie; inexperienced yes but uneducated may be a bridge to far.

What formal education do any of those idiots I named have? They wouldn't even get a foot in the door as an agent if they weren't connected/related to those big name players.

[FkLA]

I wouldn’t go that far homie; inexperienced yes but uneducated may be a bridge to far.

What formal education do any of those idiots I named have? They wouldn't even get a foot in the door as an agent if they weren't connected/related to those big name players.

[exstatic]

The lockout for the next CBA is probably gonna be a long one.. One would think the owners are really going to push for rules to take loopholes and small this power away from players and their agents

All they need to do is insert language that no player (looking at you LeBron) can own an agency that reps NBA players. The shit show of the last few years has all been cause by Klutch.

[RD2191]

Known for a while you aren't a Spurs fan. Only an idiot could be celebrating over this. If you look at yourself a little bit and read your own comments you will see how ridiculous you sound

I'm a Spurs fan, I feel bad for PATFO, not for all the salty ass faggots that cried about Kawhi all season. :lmao

[Spurs da champs]

Lmao premature hate on Dejounte, his friendship with LeBron & representation is worrisome but he does seem loyal tbh.

[toki9]

The lockout for the next CBA is probably gonna be a long one.. One would think the owners are really going to push for rules to take loopholes and take this power away from players and their agents

Yeah, the next CBA negotiation is going to be brutal.

[anon]

All the other young and up-and-coming agents are now looking at how Buford will respond. If the Wizards and the Suns didn't exist, PATFO might be perceived as the softest organization to target in the league.

[Degoat]

At least we have Luka lol :lmao

[RD2191]

People, the days of players sacrificing for the team are gone. When will y'all get this through your heads? Today's players are going to put themselves first and do what's best for THEMSELVES not the TEAM or any organization. If you can't accept that then maybe modern professional sports arent for you.

[Dex]

Lmao premature hate on Dejounte, his friendship with LeBron & representation is worrisome but he does seem loyal tbh.

So did Kawhi until he stabbed the Spurs in the back.

Not saying Murray will go down the same path, but recent events should teach us not to take anything for granted.

[timtonymanu]

Lmao premature hate on Dejounte, his friendship with LeBron & representation is worrisome but he does seem loyal tbh.

Lots of young players seemed loyal at one point and still ditched their teams. This is today’s NBA and it all started with Lebron’s pussy ass.

[Nobull]

I believe Carlos Boozer's agency dropped him after he broke his word, and what he did wasn't close to this bad. This is a serious breach of what an agency should do.
Honor is Dead.

[EricB]

All they need to do is insert language that no player (looking at you LeBron) can own an agency that reps NBA players. The shit show of the last few years has all been cause by Klutch.

He can still sell his stake and run things. There’s be no proof to the contrary that he was.

[LkrFan]

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:lmao

I forgot about that shiiiiiiiiiiiiit! :lmao

[RC_Drunkford]

This would be the 3rd season in a row where the Spurs get fucked by an SF

[Dex]

All the other young and up-and-coming agents are now looking at how Buford will respond. If the Wizards and the Suns didn't exist, PATFO might be perceived as the softest organization to target in the league.

Don't see how this falls on PATFO. A verbal agreement is just that until both parties sign on the dotted line.

It's extremely rare that players back out at the last second, but it's happened before and will likely happen again. You have to trust players against their word and hope they don't bitch out on you.

The only thing the Spurs could have done is made the deal official sooner, but they were trusting in the agreement and were looking to make more moves to improve the team. This is 100% on Morris and Klutch, not the Spurs.

[Barfunk]

The whole NBA offseason is based off of players not reneging on their agreements. Not sure how Spurs can be blamed, tbh.

What sucks is the Spurs jumped through hoops to get Morris that contract. Trading away Bertans, giving Carroll more money ... only to get screwed at the end.

But, I mean, what can you do, tbh?

Nothing. It's the Spurs, and for that reason David Stern Deux and the NBA don't care.

[Spurs da champs]

I dont think Murray will go down the Kawhi path or be influenced by Bron but only time will tell. Klutch Sports is cancerous and shouldn't even be allowed to represent anybody in the NBA, I do agree with that.

[ceperez]

Marcus Morris seems to be more problem that what he's worth.

Spurs now have to figure out what to do with the $10m.

Who's out there?

[Mr. Body]

This is a pretty seismic event. I don't know what will happen, but this is incredibly significant for a league built on trust, verbal agreements, and quickness of the free agency period, etc. I doubt Silver has the clout or really the spine to do anything about it, but the NBA is starting to wobble out of place more and more. Amazingly, the Spurs have been the site of detonation twice.

[spurraider21]

you guys think klutch arranged some STD infected hooker to bang bullock, causing him to fail his physical and leading the knicks to pursue morris like this?

[Degoat]

Marcus Morris seems to be more problem that what he's worth.

Spurs now have to figure out what to do with the $10m.

Who's out there?

The free agency market is dried up, only player I’d want is Kelly oubre and the MLE probably isn’t enough money. Some have suggested trey lyles but I’m not a fan

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Damn

[TD 21]

You know what, fuck him. I don't believe JaMychal Green has officially signed and the Spurs were interested (along with the Nuggets and Knicks).


I don't know whether the offer was for the full MLE or not, but if not, they should offer it now. That would nearly double the room exception he's getting with the Clippers.

[FkLA]

you guys think klutch arranged some STD infected hooker to bang bullock, causing him to fail his physical and leading the knicks to pursue morris like this?

Doesn't matter. A first class agency still honors their word. If the market dried up for Morris, and all that was left was the vet minimum, I guarantee PATFO still honors their agreement because they're first class through and through.

[tonight...you]

you guys think klutch arranged some STD infected hooker to bang bullock, causing him to fail his physical and leading the knicks to pursue morris like this?
Lol... that's like making a paper airplane to some countries and Klutch has a greater GDP than some of those guys.
Some of those players make more than the gross GDP of some countries, for that matter.

[timvp]

You know what, fuck him. I don't believe JaMychal Green has officially signed and the Spurs were interested (along with the Nuggets and Knicks).


I don't know whether the offer was for the full MLE or not, but if not, they should offer it now. That would nearly double the room exception he's getting with the Clippers.


Tbh, it'd be funny if this starting a ripple of reneging :lol

[Dennis the Menace]

Morris would go to the Knicks, then just get traded at the all star break to OKC or some shit team.

[timtonymanu]

The 2011 draftees haven’t been kind to the Spurs.

[poopbox]

Gonna be damn awkward if he ends up signing with the Spurs after all. You can't leave something like this unaddressed, but what is he going to do to try and save face?

Yeah a this point I don't even think it is worth it to have him on the team...

Although watching Pop jerk him out of minutes all year to keep his value low would be funny...

[Keepin' it real]

Morons, he's not choosing Knicks over Spurs. He's choosing the Big Apple over the Alamo City.

No-brainer tbh.

[cd98]

Morris would go to the Knicks, then just get traded at the all star break to OKC or some shit team.

Worse, they'll waive him at the end of the season and he can go join a contender.

[SpursDynasty85]

At this point. All the whispers were yesterday. The fact they are releasing it today just solidifies that he made his mind up. He is going tk the Knicks. Fishy fishy.

[Anto210]

typical bullshit you'll only see in this league

[timvp]

I think the Klutch whining is a bit overblown but ..... Pop refused to talk to Arn Tellem for like a decade after Lamond Murray reneged back in 2001. Maybe even longer, tbh.

[Mugen]

Honestly if the only price to fucking over Rich Paul and the Lakers was losing Marcus Morris for a year, I'd pay that shit every time :lmao

[exstatic]

The lockout for the next CBA is probably gonna be a long one.. One would think the owners are really going to push for rules to take loopholes and small this power away from players and their agents

All they need to do is insert language that no player (looking at you LeBron) can own an agency that reps NBA players. The shit show of the last few years has all been cause by Klutch.

[slick'81]

You know what, fuck him. I don't believe JaMychal Green has officially signed and the Spurs were interested (along with the Nuggets and Knicks).


I don't know whether the offer was for the full MLE or not, but if not, they should offer it now. That would nearly double the room exception he's getting with the Clippers.




Didnt someone say he already turned down more money from sa?

[anon]

The worst consequence for the Spurs if this deal is indeed shot is that Pop will grow even more paranoid and insular, doubling down on groupthink (culture) and obedience over talent more than ever. Pop and Buford might actually start developing a phobia for talent after getting burned too many times by the free market for their liking.

[Mr. Body]

I'm done with Morris. He's mercenary and incredibly short-sighted. This may have an impact on him next summer.

The bigger issues are pretty important.

Why do the Knicks do this? What the hell are they thinking? I can understand an upstart agency doing this, but a franchise?

The impact on agencies will be big going down the line. The NBA is an assortment of idiotic fiefdoms competing amongst themselves and I don't expect anyone to wall Rich Paul out, but this is bad. The league leadership will definitely need to consider what is going on.

This is certainly not the PATFO's fault. They did everything the way it's always done -- verbal commitments, quick movement, getting things done. Now we have this slop. Morris is potentially fucking himself. Good. But the bigger issue is the way players are trampling all over what used to happen in the league and not in a good way.

[tonight...you]

Tbh, it'd be funny if this starting a ripple of reneging :lol
And Adam Silver will smile.. shrug and say it's great for the players!
They're not the slaves of owners!
Let the chaos commence!

[DC23]

Unprofessional. Would this result in Morris getting blackballed by other GMs? Sure hope so.
Btw, unless the pay is materially better, one should consider no state income taxes in Texas vs the approx 8.82% state income tax of New York.

[SpursRussia]

Tbh, it'd be funny if this starting a ripple of reneging :lol

Yeah, but impossible, Spurs are never doing that, they are not the Knicks. By the way, fuck the Knicks, fuck Morris and fuck Rich Paul, good riddance. If he ends up on the team somehow, send his ass as far as possible on a trade for virtually anybody. Sad to lose Davis for this, while not being a very good player, he is still young and somewhat improving, plus he's elite in shooting, which is always valuable.

And I really hope Murray dumps Rich Paul for that, if he doesn't fire Morris.

[J_Paco]

They should have known better than to jump the gun with Bertans and Carroll. This shit isn't without precedent. The Kings just did it last year with Bjelica and Ferrell. The Thunder gave Burks (took them up on it) and Muscala the option after George altered their course.

Once again, Spurs do something stupid, can't catch a break and get screwed.

This league is a disgrace. Once an agreement in principle is reached, teams shouldn't be allowed to continue to negotiate with players.


How the fuck did the Spurs do anything stupid? They had to trade away Bertans and sign - and - trade for Carrol to make the numbers work. They acted in "good faith" signing Morris to an agreement and got fucked over in the last second (when his representation was still shopping his services).

Just like Ferrell, Bjelica and Jordan before him, Morris and his representation acted unprofessionally in thos situation. Sucks for the Spurs now they need to either trade away more assets (to acquire a similar player) or go looking in the trash heap for another combo forward.

[tonight...you]

Didnt someone say he already turned down more money from sa?
Maybe by a half a milly.
This is a head-turning amount, I would like to believe.

[tmtcsc]

Would anyone be interested in Kyle Korver? Does he have anything left or do the Spurs just need more Defense at this point?

[thunder]

:lmao Spurs

[Mr. Body]

Unprofessional. Would this result in Morris getting blackballed by other GMs? Sure hope so.
Btw, unless the pay is materially better, one should consider no state income taxes in Texas vs the approx 8.82% state income tax of New York.

Someone already ran the numbers. He'd make more money playing in SAS. This is him not wanting to work, wanting a cush place to play for a year until next summer.

[Mugen]

I mean if I'm the Knicks, this is a pretty ballsy move to fuck over another NBA franchise when at most it nets you a super late 1st rounder and more likely a 2nd rounder.

I guess when you are absolutely scraping the bottom barrel of the NBA, you just don't give a fuck anymore. :lol

[Trueblood]

Nothing. It's the Spurs, and for that reason David Stern Deux and the NBA don't care.

So just curious, what do you think another front office would do or would be allowed to do by the NBA?

[Nobull]

People, the days of players sacrificing for the team are gone. When will y'all get this through your heads? Today's players are going to put themselves first and do whats6best for THEMSELVES not the TEAM or any organization. If you can't accept that then maybe modern professional sports arent for you.
Actually Morris did it for the Suns and got messed over.

He gave them a deal to stay with his bro. He got screwed.

[Mr. Body]

Actually Morris did it for the Suns and got messed over.

He gave them a deal to stay with his bro. He got screwed.

Maybe he doesn't realize this is the Spurs and not the Suns. Classic Kansas University education.

[offset formation]

the franchise being humiliated in every way, this is really sad at this point.

Humiliated?? You don't seem to understand the meaning of that word.

[pad300]

Someone already ran the numbers. He'd make more money playing in SAS. This is him not wanting to work, wanting a cush place to play for a year until next summer.

They ran the numbers wrong... $15 vs $10 on an annual basis will work out in favor of the $15.

[Clipper Nation]

Lots of young players seemed loyal at one point and still ditched their teams. This is today’s NBA and it all started with Lebron’s pussy ass.
No it didn't. It started with Kobe forcing his way to the Lakers on draft day because he knew he wasn't good enough to elevate a small-market team.

This "player empowerment era" all started with him getting to collude with the Lakers and then have the media blame the Hornets for it.

[DAF86]

Are the Knicks offering a 1 or 2 year deal? If it's only a 1 year deal then Morris would be dumb to sign with them. Yeah, I know his idea is opting out from his player option to become a free agent next season, but what about if things don't go according to his plans? He could still have SA's 10 millions offer as cushion.

If you consider:

-taxes (like someone said it would only really be a 1.2 millions difference pero year between Knicks and Spurs' offer).
-guaranteed money (Spurs offering that player option for year 2).
-Competitiveness (Knicks will be a trainwreck next season).
-And finally, honoring your word and not doing something for which teams might see you badly in the future.

Then Morris signing with the Spurs over the Knicks is the more reasonable outcome.

[Dennis the Menace]

Isn’t RC and Bill Self tight? Get him to talk some sense into Morris’ head

[RD2191]

Actually Morris did it for the Suns and got messed over.

He gave them a deal to stay with his bro. He got screwed.

Which is exactly why I don't blame him for this current situation.

[timvp]

They ran the numbers wrong... $15 vs $10 on an annual basis will work out in favor of the $15.

Especially when you only pay the NY tax for home games. And the $10 million is still taxed on road games.

$15 million from Knicks will be more money than $10 million from Spurs.

[DC23]

Someone already ran the numbers. He'd make more money playing in SAS. This is him not wanting to work, wanting a cush place to play for a year until next summer.
smh, he would be better off on the Spurs and make a playoff run, and showcase his talents to other teams to "secure the bag" as they say. btw, I live in Phoenix, AZ, and am a long-time Suns fan. The Morris twins were trouble makers - both arrested for assault in 2015 and both were involved in some team fights and getting into it with coaches re: playing time. Not sure how relevant these occurrences are to this situation, but these two don't have the character track-record consistent with the Spurs organization values and beliefs.

[r0drig0lac]

People, the days of players sacrificing for the team are gone. When will y'all get this through your heads? Today's players are going to put themselves first and do whats6best for THEMSELVES not the TEAM or any organization. If you can't accept that then maybe modern professional sports arent for you.

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[slick'81]

Maybe by a half a milly.
This is a head-turning amount, I would like to believe.

Crazy what a lil xtra can do:lol

[Mr. Body]

They ran the numbers wrong... $15 vs $10 on an annual basis will work out in favor of the $15.

I saw that, too. Still, he's eating most of those gains just living in NYC. I figure the attraction is pride (he just thought the league owed him more), not having to do anything competitive for New York, and just hanging out in the city.

[spurraider21]

Honestly if the only price to fucking over Rich Paul and the Lakers was losing Marcus Morris for a year, I'd pay that shit every time :lmao
its not the losing out on morris that hurts. its that we gave away bertans and added a 3rd guaranteed year to carroll for nothing

[FvckMavs]

Especially when you only pay the NY tax for home games. And the $10 million is still taxed on road games.

$15 million from Knicks will be more money than $10 million from Spurs.

It is not even 10m from Spurs. It's something like 9.3m.

[DC23]

They ran the numbers wrong... $15 vs $10 on an annual basis will work out in favor of the $15.
Material differences in cost of living but you're right still 15 > 10 when it's all said and done.

[TD 21]

How the fuck did the Spurs do anything stupid? They had to trade away Bertans and sign - and - trade for Carrol to make the numbers work. They acted in "good faith" signing Morris to an agreement and got fucked over in the last second (when his representation was still shopping his services).

Just like Ferrell, Bjelica and Jordan before him, Morris and his representation acted unprofessionally in thos situation. Sucks for the Spurs now they need to either trade away more assets (to acquire a similar player) or go looking in the trash heap for another combo forward.

Like I said, they jumped the gun.

[spurraider21]

:lmao how many times has spurstalk thought the whole "muh state tax rates" argument is ever going to woo a player. it never happens

[tesseractive]

So, do I have this right? If we want to be done with Klutch we have to showcase Dejounte for half a season and then trade him to fucking Siberia?

[tonight...you]

Crazy what a lil xtra can do:lol
An extra 5 million dollars is not a "lil".
Think about it from your end.
You can be holier than thou. All good.
I don't blame you.

[picnroll]

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The days of players honoring their word or contract also seem to be gone.

[Nobull]

Maybe he doesn't realize this is the Spurs and not the Suns. Classic Kansas University education.
No but he decided he deserved more.

[phxspurfan]

He'd rather play for the Knicks????

He'd rather play for more money

[YoungbuckMurray]

Will this guy at least give us the courtesy to make up his mind right now so we can’t get someone else if he’s not here

[sananspursfan21]

I’m not so attached to Marcus Morris as much as I’m just pissed that Bertans is gone and so are all other free agents of value. All because they thought he’d stay true to his word. Damned Deandre Jordan bull.

[Mr. Body]

No but he decided he deserved more.

Joke, dude.

[tonight...you]

The days of players honoring their word or contract also seem to be gone.
If only everybody could be like Benedict Arnold...

[Mugen]

its not the losing out on morris that hurts. its that we gave away bertans and added a 3rd guaranteed year to carroll for nothing

It's really just losing Bertans as an asset that hurts. Even then, he probably only nets you a 2nd rounder. That 3rd year for Demarre is partially guaranteed and Spurs can move off that easily.

Frankly, if this moves them to move Forbes/Beli for a Morris type without the baggage and truly frees up rotation minutes for Walker, it isn't that terrible.

[Laker_1995]

No it didn't. It started with Kobe forcing his way to the Lakers on draft day because he knew he wasn't good enough to elevate a small-market team.

This "player empowerment era" all started with him getting to collude with the Lakers and then have the media blame the Hornets for it.


just like PG forcing his way to the clippers cause playoff P can’t win a series with Westbrook?

[SAGirl]

I think the Klutch whining is a bit overblown but ..... Pop refused to talk to Arn Tellem for like a decade after Lamond Murray reneged back in 2001. Maybe even longer, tbh.
Dejounte is going to be in a contract year. If he's not going to talk to any player repped by Klutch better trade him now.

[phxspurfan]

Tbh, it'd be funny if this starting a ripple of reneging :lol

That already started after Paul George got traded to the Clips. OKC FO allowed their signings to reconsider.

[TheDoctor]

Fuck this motherfucker if this circus ends-up being true.

[3&D_TBH]

Spurs did nothing wrong here. All this means is that Morris’s word isn’t worth shit. We’ve got young studs we are developing in the periphery. I’m sort of glad Morris revealed his true character before he arrived. The truth is always quicker. It does suck that we made an unnecessary trade, but Bertans was falling out of the rotation anyway. PATFO did nothing wrong here, though I bet this probably frustrates them. Have fun being on a team that can’t even make the playoffs in the much weaker Eastern conference, Marcus.

[Mr. Body]

I think the Klutch whining is a bit overblown but ..... Pop refused to talk to Arn Tellem for like a decade after Lamond Murray reneged back in 2001. Maybe even longer, tbh.

You're wrong on this, too. You have a great grasp on what's going on on the court, but you're failing to understand the bigger picture about agencies and verbal contracts. I'm surprised, frankly.

[spurraider21]

It's really just losing Bertans as an asset that hurts. Even then, he probably only nets you a 2nd rounder. That 3rd year for Demarre is partially guaranteed and Spurs can move off that easily.

Frankly, if this moves them to move Forbes/Beli for a Morris type without the baggage and truly frees up rotation minutes for Walker, it isn't that terrible.
if you consider lyles to be a morris type, the i have some goods news tbh

[Excessive Egotist]

This is a particularly unethical move by Klutch/Knicks. I wonder if the Spurs will ask the league for some modest draft compensation (from Knicks) as a penalty. The team essentially traded Bertans for Morris and now they're not getting any return, let alone Morris.

[Mr. Body]

if you consider lyles to be a morris type, the i have some goods news tbh

What's cool about Trey Lyles is he promised to go to one university and then pulled out much later. Frankly, avoiding the type of players that go to Kansas or Kentucky is often a good idea.

[cjw]

This really hurts the Spurs next year

This also is almost as unprecedented as the Boozer debacle years back with Cleveland. The Knicks should be blackballed by the rest of the 29 owners for pulling this kind of shit.

[RC_Drunkford]

Fuck this, this team was about to be a legit contender with the wing defenders and Murray/White/Walker emerging. I think he's gone. It will all come down to for how much the Knicks will sign Bullock. If they indeed have 15 million available Morris is Knicks bound. Clutch already removed the Spurs Morris artwork from their IG and the Spurs shopping around indicates that he won't sign here. Still hope Marcus makes up his mind though

[Clipper Nation]

just like PG forcing his way to the clippers cause playoff P can’t win a series with Westbrook?
Or AD forcing his way to the Lakers because Rich Paul and Magic were in his ear telling him to do it. It all goes back to Kobe on draft day.

[Mr. Body]

This is a particularly unethical move by Klutch/Knicks. I wonder if the Spurs will ask the league for some modest draft compensation (from Knicks) as a penalty. The team essentially traded Bertans for Morris and now they're not getting any return, let alone Morris.

It is actionable, but I doubt the Spurs do anything. It was clear Kawhi was getting tampered with by the Lakers. Hell, even their people at ESPN were getting involved. The Spurs didn't complain.

[cjw]

This is actually ridiculous that a player can do this. Spurs made a specific move to get him and now after agreeing he can just leave. This CBA is a joke

Yes, between this and the Kawhi bullshit, PATFO should be forcing Silver’s hand here

[r0drig0lac]

The days of players honoring their word or contract also seem to be gone.

yes, the franchises today have no more power over absolutely nothing in the league (they have become places of temporary rent for players) and small market franchises will be the only ones that will suffer with this situation.

[Mr. Body]

This really hurts the Spurs next year

This also is almost as unprecedented as the Boozer debacle years back with Cleveland. The Knicks should be blackballed by the rest of the 29 owners for pulling this kind of shit.

It's far worse than Boozer. IIRC Boozer promised to sign after a year, but blew up and got a better deal with Utah than the one Cleveland set with him, which wasn't exactly legal to begin with. What Morris, Klutch, and the Knicks are doing is much worse. It's basically tearing a hole in the fabric of how NBA free agency and contracts work.

[Harry Callahan]

Silver could make a phone call to the idiot owner of the Knicks and say "Don't do it". Since the commish is "Woke" he won't do anything.

[DeadlyDynasty]

:lmao

[slick'81]

An extra 5 million dollars is not a "lil".
Think about it from your end.
You can be holier than thou. All good.
I don't blame you.


Talking about green not morris :lol

[cjw]

It's far worse than Boozer. IIRC Boozer promised to sign after a year, but blew up and got a better deal with Utah than the one Cleveland set with him, which wasn't exactly legal to begin with. What Morris, Klutch, and the Knicks are doing is much worse. It's basically tearing a hole in the fabric of how NBA free agency and contracts work.

:tu:

[tonight...you]

Talking about green not morris :lol
Whoops! My bad homie.

[Dennis the Menace]

Get Bill Self on line 1

[BatManu20]

Fuck this motherfucker if this circus ends-up being true.


Klutch Sports’ instagram page already deleted the pic of Morris in a Spurs jersey.. Knicks are currently re-working Reggie Bullock’s deal to create space to sign him. He gone bruh.

[timvp]

Like I said, they jumped the gun.They couldn't sign Morris until they did the trade. You can't jump the gun when there was no other possibility than to do the trade first and then agree to a free agent deal with the player.


You're wrong on this, too. You have a great grasp on what's going on on the court, but you're failing to understand the bigger picture about agencies and verbal contracts. I'm surprised, frankly.Wrong about what, tbh?

[Holden_Caulfield]

eh time for samanic to grow up quicker i guess

[FkLA]

It's far worse than Boozer. IIRC Boozer promised to sign after a year, but blew up and got a better deal with Utah than the one Cleveland set with him, which wasn't exactly legal to begin with. What Morris, Klutch, and the Knicks are doing is much worse. It's basically tearing a hole in the fabric of how NBA free agency and contracts work.

Nah, IIRC Boozer had a team option and the Cavs declined it because they were going to sign him to a long term deal instead after both sides agreed to an extension. Boozer got a bigger deal from Utah and left for them instead.

[timvp]

It's far worse than Boozer. IIRC Boozer promised to sign after a year, but blew up and got a better deal with Utah than the one Cleveland set with him, which wasn't exactly legal to begin with. What Morris, Klutch, and the Knicks are doing is much worse. It's basically tearing a hole in the fabric of how NBA free agency and contracts work.

Boozer lied to a blind owner, telling him to release him from his contract and then he'd re-sign to a longer term deal. Instead, the blind owner released Boozer from his contract and Boozer signed with the Jazz instead :lol

This is bad but Boozer is still worse, tbh.

[JADG79]

Taxes in NY are higher than TX.
Spurs can offer him 3 years 30M+ to try to get him.

Try to negotiate with Suns about Oubre but Suns traded TJ Warren and Jackson they are high on him.

Difficult situation for Spurs.

[cjw]

Klutch Sports’ instagram page already deleted the pic of Morris in a Spurs jersey.. Knicks are currently re-working Reggie Bullock’s deal to create space to sign him. He gone bruh.

Spurs should just go take Bullock for part of the MLE. Wonder how much less Knicks are going to force him to take

[J_Paco]

All the other young and up-and-coming agents are now looking at how Buford will respond. If the Wizards and the Suns didn't exist, PATFO might be perceived as the softest organization to target in the league.

Hi, you are a pretty stupid, new face around here. Can't wait to read more of your moronic takes!

[SpursBig3s]

Instagram Baller needs to switch representation or he can GTFO. Klutch players need to be blacklisted for this.


Okay dude we get it. You hate IG baller. You’ve said this twice already. Nobody cares

[ZeusWillJudge]

Cap money is drying up. Agree to terms with a team, to be sure you don't get left holding the bag. Then continue to negotiate elsewhere, to see if you can get a better deal.

It's a broken system. It worked as long as (most) people honored the deals they made, but not like this.

[Mr. Body]

They couldn't sign Morris until they did the trade. You can't jump the gun when there was no other possibility than to do the trade first and then agree to a free agent deal with the player.

Wrong about what, tbh?

Are you being disingenuous? You're saying what Klutch is doing isn't a big deal and I'm saying you're very much wrong. Because you're very much wrong.

[Dverde]

I would love for a team to sign somebody then a week later say we never signed anything and we found another option at a cheaper price. We’re sorry most of the other teams have spent their payroll, but we gotta make the most out of our salaries. This player is 20% cheaper, adios

[SpurPadre]

Wow, even Load Management would think this is a dick move, tbh.

[JPB]

Don't even understand how you can do that from a self-esteem point of view...

There's just stuff you don't do, man... you're fucking up a whole organisation and other players.

Spurs liked Berta and didn't trade him with pleasure and they reshaped Carroll's contract...

Was somehow trying to get some interest back for the NBA, but Kawhitter then that weak move... Fuck this shit tbh.

[timvp]

blkX8gSqa0E

Sign him up, tbh.....

[Mr. Body]

Boozer lied to a blind owner, telling him to release him from his contract and then he'd re-sign to a longer term deal. Instead, the blind owner released Boozer from his contract and Boozer signed with the Jazz instead :lol

This is bad but Boozer is still worse, tbh.

Boozer blew up as a player and the owner thought he should stay at the illegally set contract price they made. It wasn't above board to begin with. What he did wasn't great, but isn't close to this. And stop with the 'he was blind' shit. That's ableist bullshit.

[Mr. Body]

Boozer lied to a blind owner, telling him to release him from his contract and then he'd re-sign to a longer term deal. Instead, the blind owner released Boozer from his contract and Boozer signed with the Jazz instead :lol

This is bad but Boozer is still worse, tbh.

Boozer blew up as a player and the owner thought he should stay at the illegally set contract price they made. It wasn't above board to begin with. What he did wasn't great, but isn't close to this. And stop with the 'he was blind' shit. That's ableist bullshit.

[YoungbuckMurray]

I would love for a team to sign somebody then a week later say we never signed anything and we found another option at a cheaper price. We’re sorry most of the other teams have spent their payroll, but we gotta make the most out of our salaries. This player is 20% cheaper, adios
Think about how much that team would be crucified. Yet a player does it and nobody bats an eye

[ZeusWillJudge]

Boozer lied to a blind owner, telling him to release him from his contract and then he'd re-sign to a longer term deal. Instead, the blind owner released Boozer from his contract and Boozer signed with the Jazz instead :lol

This is bad but Boozer is still worse, tbh.


It's always hard for me to feel too sorry for the Cavs on that Boozer deal. They knew that making that deal was illegal, which is why they had to make it behind closed doors. You lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Boozer is still a scum, but the Cavs owner tried to do something the rest of the owners couldn't do, and he got screwed.

[picnroll]

Unfortunately the current generation of players in particular think unethical sleaze balls like Rich Paul and Clutch sports are bad ass willing to do anything, break contracts, renege on deals, to get more money desired situations for their clients. Only hope is if a majority of owners get pissed enough to man up and address the siution which i doubt will happen. No big market team is going to complain about this BS for sure. Always been bad but getting worse.

[timvp]

Are you being disingenuous? You're saying what Klutch is doing isn't a big deal and I'm saying you're very much wrong. Because you're very much wrong.

Where did I say it wasn't a big deal? I was directing that comment at those saying the Spurs should bail on Dejounte Murray due to his connection to Klutch. Sure, Klutch is wrong but you don't take it out on Murray.

[spurraider21]

Boozer lied to a blind owner, telling him to release him from his contract and then he'd re-sign to a longer term deal. Instead, the blind owner released Boozer from his contract and Boozer signed with the Jazz instead :lol

This is bad but Boozer is still worse, tbh.
yeah but cleveland didnt trade away a rotation player for nothing because of boozer's "commitment"

[ZeusWillJudge]

Lyles and Oubre are about it. Unless the Spurs want to try and go poaching "agreements" that haven't been finalized yet. :lol

[Dennis the Menace]

Would be awesome if Dejounte dropped Klutch Sports. Doubt it though

[FvckMavs]

blkX8gSqa0E

Sign him up, tbh.....

His agent is Rich Paul too.

[picnroll]

Would be awesome if Dejounte dropped Klutch Sports. Doubt it though

Make him a hero to many Spurs fans.

[Laker_1995]

Or AD forcing his way to the Lakers because Rich Paul and Magic were in his ear telling him to do it. It all goes back to Kobe on draft day.

Lets take this downstairs tough guy

[vy65]

no, klutch is just doing what their client instructs. the agreement or "promise" was between the spurs and morris. the legal theory would be "promissory estoppel" because the spurs acted to their detriment (trading bertans, adding a 3rd year to carroll's deal) based on reasonable reliance on assurances given by morris. even if those assurances/promises werent in the form of a binding contract, courts could enforce based on the spurs damages.

but yeah, this is all just a mental exercise. dallas went through the same thing with deandre. not the first time this has happened. though i dont know that dallas made any specific roster moves purely because of deandre's commitment, the way spurs did with bertans/carroll

There's an oral contract. They reached an agreement on all material terms. Only question would be if it fell into the statute of frauds or not.

[YoungbuckMurray]

Lyles and Oubre are about it. Unless the Spurs want to try and go poaching "agreements" that haven't been finalized yet. :lol
Mine as well. What has being 100% class organization done for them lately. Oh ya Kawhi and now Morris.

[spurraider21]

There's an oral contract. They reached an agreement on all material terms. Only question would be if it fell into the statute of frauds or not.
if its more than a 1 year contract for services... then its definitely a statute of frauds issue. notwithstanding the fact that the NBA has its own rules which would supersede any common law.

i think estoppel is the way to go due to the whole detrimental reliance aspect of what the spurs suffered

[Mugen]

His agent is Rich Paul too.

:rollin

[timvp]

Boozer blew up as a player and the owner thought he should stay at the illegally set contract price they made. It wasn't above board to begin with. What he did wasn't great, but isn't close to this. And stop with the 'he was blind' shit. That's ableist bullshit.


It's always hard for me to feel too sorry for the Cavs on that Boozer deal. They knew that making that deal was illegal, which is why they had to make it behind closed doors. You lay down with dogs, you wake up with fleas. Boozer is still a scum, but the Cavs owner tried to do something the rest of the owners couldn't do, and he got screwed.


IIRC, it wasn't an illegal deal. He agreed to a framework of deal, the Cavs declined the team option and then he signed a poison pill contract with the Jazz.

But whatevs ... was a long time ago under different CBA rules.

[anon]

Hi, you are a pretty stupid, new face around here. Can't wait to read more of your moronic takes!
Are you saying agents are now looking at Buford with increased respect? This is a pure and simple bitchslapping. Seems like more and more players are starting to disrespect a franchise they know is toothless. The Spurs are a soft target now.

[Joseph Kony]

so is this official yet or what? did he back out or is there still hope?

[exstatic]

Where did I say it wasn't a big deal? I was directing that comment at those saying the Spurs should bail on Dejounte Murray due to his connection to Klutch. Sure, Klutch is wrong but you don't take it out on Murray.

Do you wait for Klutch to give you an ultimatum? A list of teams he will play with? Because I saw that shit show already last summer and we got pennies on the dollar...

I'm not saying "dump" him, but if he does well, and you get offers, you move on, and don't deal with Klutch any more. RP seems to have a hard on for Pop after the Demps phone call.

[Mugen]

Just play Keldon more tbh. I'm not losing a fucking second of sleep over Marcus F'n Morris :lol

[ducks]

This is something Hilary Rodman Clinton would do

[Spurs9]

Lyles and Oubre are about it. Unless the Spurs want to try and go poaching "agreements" that haven't been finalized yet. :lol

Who can the Spurs swoop in on?

[3&D_TBH]

WOJ has a tweet up that talks about how the Knicks handled Bullock’s (spelling?) situation in such a classy way. :lmao
No mention, however, about the classless way they just shoved their nose in the middle of our verbal commitment with MM.

[cd98]

There's an oral contract. They reached an agreement on all material terms. Only question would be if it fell into the statute of frauds or not.

It's a promise for a service of more than one year, so likely must be in writing.

[JPB]

Do you even want a guy like that in your team anyway? Dude would have probably fucked up chemistry in other ways.

Blessing in disguise, who knows... Give me guys with a minimum of ethics i can somehow cheer for... not faithless mercenaries.

[exstatic]

WOJ has a tweet up that talks about how the Knicks handled Bullock’s (spelling?) situation. :lmao
No mention, however, about the classless way they just shoved their nose in the middle of our verbal commitment with MM.

Dolan is an ass and a laughingstock. It's not even possible for him to be respected, so there is no upside for him to act right.

[timvp]

His agent is Rich Paul too.

https://i.imgur.com/0hXnZ5r.jpg

[SpurPadre]

If he winds up leaving, who's the bigger asshole now: Load Management or Morris?

[FkLA]

Where did I say it wasn't a big deal? I was directing that comment at those saying the Spurs should bail on Dejounte Murray due to his connection to Klutch. Sure, Klutch is wrong but you don't take it out on Murray.

Isn't it a bad look for Murray to stay with Klutch though? Especially if the Spurs blackball them.

Now is the time for the "team leader" to stand up for his team. Show us that all the loyalty talk on instagram is legit.

[ZeusWillJudge]

Wow, even Load Management would think this is a dick move, tbh.


Different flavor of the same ice cream. I haven't said Fuck Kawhi today. Fuck Kawhi.

[JPB]

WOJ has a tweet up that talks about how the Knicks handled Bullock’s (spelling?) situation in such a classy way. :lmao
No mention, however, about the classless way they just shoved their nose in the middle of our verbal commitment with MM.

From ESPN.com:

"Agent David Bauman and the Knicks are re-evaluating Bullock's fitness to play a full season in 2019-20.

In a brief conversation with ESPN, Bauman was complimentary of how the Knicks handled an emerging situation with Bullock, citing how accommodating ownership, front office and medical staff had been with the player's situation.

"First-class throughout," Bauman said."

[timtonymanu]

Just play Keldon more tbh. I'm not losing a fucking second of sleep over Marcus F'n Morris :lol

White & Walker are still on the team as far as I'm concerned. :tu

[RD2191]

If he winds up leaving, who's the bigger asshole now: Load Management or Morris?

Morris, Kawhi at least gave us a handjob before he left.

[spurraider21]

If he winds up leaving, who's the bigger asshole now: Load Management or Morris?
load management sat out and entire year while accepting 18 mil only to demand a trade to a specific city which killed his trade value

[Dverde]

WOJ has a tweet up that talks about how the Knicks handled Bullock’s (spelling?) situation in such a classy way. :lmao
No mention, however, about the classless way they just shoved their nose in the middle of our verbal commitment with MM.

:lol yeah classy is telling the player the original deal is void, but we can give you much less money. Josh Huestis got hurt in a pickup game and the Spurs signed him and provided health care insurance and rehab services. That’s classy.

[Mr. Body]

Isn't it a bad look for Murray to stay with Klutch though? Especially if the Spurs blackball them.

Now is the time for the "team leader" to stand up for his team. Show us that all the loyalty talk on instagram is legit.

Yes, it's a bad look if he stays with Klutch.

[3&D_TBH]

Dolan is an ass and a laughingstock. It's not even possible for him to be respected, so there is no upside for him to act right. :tu

[timvp]

I'm not saying "dump" him, but if he does well, and you get offers, you move on, and don't deal with Klutch any more. RP seems to have a hard on for Pop after the Demps phone call.

Eh, a player gets offered 50% more before he signs a contract. Klutch can't make Morris sign it. I'll wait to trade Murray until we at least hear the details of how it went down.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

didnt think his character concerns would flare up this early, tbhtook a week:lmao

[vy65]

if its more than a 1 year contract for services... then its definitely a statute of frauds issue. notwithstanding the fact that the NBA has its own rules which would supersede any common law.

i think estoppel is the way to go due to the whole detrimental reliance aspect of what the spurs suffered

"cannot be performed within one year," and the question is always *can* and not *will*. I'd think the second year option would put it outside the statute. Plus, you'd want the contract claim in Texas because you get attorney's fees by statute while you don't for any kind of equitable theory like PE. Plus, if memory serves, PE has been whittled down to narrow scenarios if I remember right.

[picnroll]

Woj is a kiss ass staying in players and agents good gracesfirst is foremost in importance.

[vy65]

This is something Hilary Rodman Clinton would do

I <3 you so much

[timtonymanu]

If he winds up leaving, who's the bigger asshole now: Load Management or Morris?

Nephew easily. The Morris situation only lasted days. Nephew was lying for years.

[widowmaker]

Spurs should just pull the contract themselves this guy is already showing the signs of a diva just like nephew

[FvckMavs]

Just give the minutes to Keldon/Luka. If someone like Iguodala gets bought out at mid-season, then throw the MLE at him.

[SpurPadre]

Morris, Kawhi at least gave us a handjob before he left.


That's one legit way of looking at it.


load management sat out and entire year while accepting 18 mil only to demand a trade to a specific city which killed his trade value

This is another. Frustrating how we seem snakebit with backstabbing pieces of shit lately.

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

I mean would the Spurs still want him?

What the fuck are the Knicks actually doing anyway. what the fuck does one year of Marcus Morris do for them?Uncle Dennis and KL have more power than we thought. They want to make sure the Spurs don't have anyone on the roster that might be able to guard him.

[J_Paco]

Boozer lied to a blind owner, telling him to release him from his contract and then he'd re-sign to a longer term deal. Instead, the blind owner released Boozer from his contract and Boozer signed with the Jazz instead :lol

This is bad but Boozer is still worse, tbh.

Yeah, that situation is why I didn't feel bad when Derek Fisher duped the Jazz into releasing him (so he could be with his daughter). Only for him to turn around and re-sign with the Lakers (and make three straight Finals).

LOL

[SpurPadre]

Nephew easily. The Morris situation only lasted days. Nephew was lying for years.

Agreed.

[TheDoctor]

Klutch Sports’ instagram page already deleted the pic of Morris in a Spurs jersey.. Knicks are currently re-working Reggie Bullock’s deal to create space to sign him. He gone bruh.

Then fuck him and his brother too. I think the Spurs even posted a "Welcome Morris" message on all their social media.

Piece of shit.

[kobyz]

Nephew easily. The Morris situation only lasted days. Nephew was lying for years.
Kawhi didn't lied, he came straight and said he wanted to leave

[3&D_TBH]

From ESPN.com:

"Agent David Bauman and the Knicks are re-evaluating Bullock's fitness to play a full season in 2019-20.

In a brief conversation with ESPN, Bauman was complimentary of how the Knicks handled an emerging situation with Bullock, citing how accommodating ownership, front office and medical staff had been with the player's situation.

"First-class throughout," Bauman said." Yup. Thanks for posting it. First class moves all around by the Knicks. :lmao

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

There should be penalties from the league for this kind of shit. Revoke Klutch's agency license for a year or two, no reps for them. :td

Add a tampering fine on top too, fuck that clown show.The NBA is okay with it.

[cd021]

Just give the minutes to Keldon/Luka. If someone like Iguodala gets bought out at mid-season, then throw the MLE at him.

Spurs still have 11 possible rotation players even without Morris so tI doubt either of those two play. Iggy isn't likely to be brought out, traded seems to be the option.

Murray, White, DDR, Carroll, LMA
Mills, Forbes, Walker, Gay, Poeltl

[Degoat]

Skip bayless going in on him on Twitter at least lol

[Cane]

Holy shit the Spurs are the nephews of the NBA, wtf is going on :flipoff

[tmtcsc]

Kawhi didn't lied, he came straight and said he wanted to leave

"Yeah, for sure".

[timtonymanu]

Agreed.

Since you're Murray's #1 fan, you need to message him and tell him to ditch Rich Paul and those Klutch mf'ers. I'll gladly say Murray > White for the entire season if he does the right thing. :lol

[Mugen]

Maybe Minny will take that Bryn/Beli/1st rounder for Covington deal now :lol

[kobyz]

This reminds me the Corey Maggete situation in 2008, when we almost got him for the MLE only to lose him to the Warriors offering him big money at the last minute...

[KimmyGib]

Would've been weird cheering for one of the morris twins, anyway. always disliked those fucks.

[Leetonidas]

Man what a shit show. Fuck this clown. Don't even want him on our team now

[TrueSpursFan]

https://twitter.com/sanantoniozoo/status/1148729307268820992?s=12

[YoungbuckMurray]

Will this guy just make up his mind so the spurs can go about replacing his bitch ass

[FkLA]

Since you're Murray's #1 fan, you need to message him and tell him to ditch Rich Paul and those Klutch mf'ers. I'll gladly say Murray > White for the entire season if he does the right thing. :lol

I wouldn't go as far as saying he's better than White but he'll definitely win me over if he does this. The IB nickname will be replaced by "team leader".

[TheDoctor]

I just realised that that piece of shit of Fizdale is the Knicks' HC.

[J_Paco]

Are you saying agents are now looking at Buford with increased respect? This is a pure and simple bitchslapping. Seems like more and more players are starting to disrespect a franchise they know is toothless. The Spurs are a soft target now.

I guess the Timberwolves, Mavericks and who ever else this has happened to is "toothless" as well, LOL?

[Dex]

https://i.imgur.com/0hXnZ5r.jpg

:lmao

:cry

[Dennis the Menace]

Bill Self gonna walk him off the ledge for RC?

[paperboy77]

He must have talked to Korver’s wife :lol

Tony hit that shit too?

[Dancelot]

"Yeah, for sure".
<3 I see what you did there lol

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/sanantoniozoo/status/1148729307268820992?s=12
:lmao

[timtonymanu]

Will this guy just make up his mind so the spurs can go about replacing his bitch ass

All these millennial divas gotta drag it out and draw attention to themselves.

[Mugen]

I'm just happy we have some clarity on who we need to ship out eventually between Dejounte, DWhite, and Lonnie.

[John B]

So we have the full MLE. Oubre, Lyles?

[Desert Spur]

Perfect opportunity to bring back Zarko.

[Leetonidas]

Can't believe we traded Davis for literally nothing. Fuck this chump

[FkLA]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChuQU5O_G84

[Dverde]

Patty is on his honeymoon, he can’t drive out and beg you like Deandre. No one else on the Spurs roster give AF about your antics.

[r0drig0lac]

So we have the full MLE. Oubre, Lyles?

Lyles is trash

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

That sucks.... Now man up and either make a trade for Covington or work a deal with Phoenix for Oubre. Then make room to sign a third big and let's go..Spurs will now look desperate in a trade and with no Bertans to offer, either Walker, White, Murray or one of the top draft picks, probably KJ would have to be included.

[Dverde]

Is Kenneth Faried garbage now? He seemed to have some good games for Houston.

[Mr. Body]

I'm just happy we have some clarity on who we need to ship out eventually between Dejounte, DWhite, and Lonnie.

DJM was never staying here longterm. He's saying the right things, working hard, but he's gone. We should have always known this.

[MultiTroll]

Incredible how the 2018 Celtics were ahead at halftime of Game 6 to go to the Finals and have since become a bunch of .500 players.

[r0drig0lac]

Spurs will now look desperate in a trade and with no Bertans to offer, either Walker, White, Murray or one of the top draft picks, probably KJ would have to be included.

or Pop could play the kid that the spurs drafted (KJ)

[HankChinaski]

Well that is definitely a tough blow.

Move on and move forward. No point hating on someone that gets enticed with more money, etc. Just living in an age where your word means nothing.

[Degoat]

I don’t think the spurs will panic and trade anybody, they’ll probably sign some scrub but it just means going further are forwards will be Gay and carrol and will need them to play well

[Big P]

Holy shit the Spurs are the nephews of the NBA, wtf is going on :flipoff

FA's and their agents always talks a big game about the Spurs an popatfo, how they respect cuckovich and the organization so much, first class...etc etc etc..yet we never sign any FA's of any star power besides LA and I think the main reason we were able to sign him is because of his son and not only that it is widely known that the Spurs are routinely used for leverage so agents can get their players more money, hence why no one ever signs here...Morris is gone, he is not going to leave over $5 mil on the table and if he is on the Knicks, he can ball out with a bunch of scrubs and make himself look good so he can get paid next year.

[spurraider21]

I don’t think the spurs will panic and trade anybody, they’ll probably sign some scrub but it just means going further are forwards will be Gay and carrol and will need them to play well
they already panicked and traded bertans

[TheDoctor]

What does not make sense is why the Knicks would be interested in another big man. This mfer didnt play as SF w/ Boston.

Unless they plan to ship/trade some of their players? Still, as of now, they're far from being a Playoff team. This fiasco does not make sense. Shit.

[Degoat]

they already panicked and traded bertans

its a bummer to lose Bertans for nothing but that’s not panicking lol Bertans isn’t that important to the team. panicking to me would be to trade one are are promising young players

[Degoat]

they already panicked and traded bertans

its a bummer to lose Bertans for nothing but that’s not panicking lol Bertans isn’t that important to the team. panicking to me would be to trade one are are promising young players

[kobyz]

What about Will Klyburn? having great career in Europe, euroleague champion, playing both ends, off the ball player who adapt at making plays out of others, I think he's a great fit and would sign him for part of the mle

https://youtu.be/XtFCaXh2oSw

[Strategic]

Just thinking this head nut was gonna play Spurs ball had my head spinning.

[K...]

i wonder if it was also a promise to pick up thomas robinson and when the spurs saw he sucked they renegged on the promise to Morris to play with his friend.

[TD 21]

They couldn't sign Morris until they did the trade. You can't jump the gun when there was no other possibility than to do the trade first and then agree to a free agent deal with the player.

Wrong about what, tbh?

I know. What I'm saying is, the trade and restructuring should have remained in principle until literally before he was about to sign.

I'm not saying they should have anticipated this, but again, it's not unprecedented and if you were to come up a list of least surprising people to pull this, Paul/Morris would be near the top of the list.



What does not make sense is why the Knicks would be interested in another big man. This mfer didnt play as SF w/ Boston.

Unless they plan to ship/trade some of their players? Still, as of now, they're far from being a Playoff team. This fiasco does not make sense. Shit.

These stupid fucks already brought in too many veteran rotation players and have an overload of players who either do, can or will have to play his positions . . . but anytime you can screw the Spurs over, you have to do it.

[YoungbuckMurray]

if he goes to the knicks i hope he gets hurt and is scrambling for a vet min contract for years

[Roscoe P. Coltrane]

or Pop could play the kid that the spurs drafted (KJ)KJ can play PF?

[Marcus Bryant]

Fucking Knicks. Even able to do shit like this with the media covering for you and still shit for the last two decades or whatever.