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spurraider21

11-14-2019, 06:15 PM

agreed. I think the first few primaries will do that. Once the candidate is finalized, I would expect a tidal wave of actual donations from grassroots. Once it crystallizes, I expect a massive effort to spring up virtually overnight.

Before then though, having a field of candidates to choose from steals oxygen from Golfy-McDumb's tweet shits, not a bad thing, IMO.
a debate stage with this many people is useless. there isn't enough time for the candidates to get into much substance and everyone is trying to maybe get 1-2 soundbites to stick out from the crowd

they should just have it down to 5 or so now... biden/warren/sanders/pete/kamala and continue to weed them out. nobody thinks klobuchar, steyer, booker, yang, gabbard actually have a snowballs chance

RandomGuy

11-14-2019, 06:18 PM

a debate stage with this many people is useless. there isn't enough time for the candidates to get into much substance and everyone is trying to maybe get 1-2 soundbites to stick out from the crowd

they should just have it down to 5 or so now... biden/warren/sanders/pete/kamala and continue to weed them out. nobody thinks klobuchar, steyer, booker, yang, gabbard actually have a snowballs chance

Eyup. At this stage, it needs to get narrow. can't wait for the first few primaries to be over. jeez.

TheGreatYacht

11-14-2019, 06:24 PM

Another Corporate Tool Hops In The Race As Dem Establishment Panics

https://youtu.be/nnuq1xET2-A

Winehole23

11-14-2019, 06:47 PM

Steyer being in the debate boggles the mind.

TheGreatYacht

11-14-2019, 09:46 PM

Steyer being in the debate boggles the mind.

Of course. The corrupt DNC making exceptions for their corporate tools.

TheGreatYacht

11-14-2019, 10:27 PM

Cenk Uygur Might Run For Congress

https://youtu.be/530V-IhMeV8

Not a fan of his TYT organization but this would be badass for the left.

TheGreatYacht

11-19-2019, 05:23 PM

Cenk Uygur Running For Congress, Shatters Small $ Fundraising Record

https://youtu.be/aInT9O-gOqY

boutons_deux

11-19-2019, 05:35 PM

CA-25 has been quite Repug in the past 30 years

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California%27s_25th_congressional_district#Recent_ results_in_statewide_elections

Currently held just barely by a Dem woman, de Leon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_de_Leon)
(D): 50.3 – 49.7% (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_United_States_Senate_election_in_California)

Reck

11-19-2019, 05:40 PM

Cenk Uygur Running For Congress, Shatters Small $ Fundraising Record

https://youtu.be/aInT9O-gOqY

So is he going to have to run and try to win the seat twice in a span of months?

Special elections will be held early next year then the normal elections in november.

Spurtacular

11-19-2019, 07:04 PM

Cenk Uygur Running For Congress, Shatters Small $ Fundraising Record

https://youtu.be/aInT9O-gOqY

Cenk is a shill. Medicare for all is just some sh** so corps don't have to spend real money on real healthcare.

Reck

11-19-2019, 07:17 PM

Cenk is a shill. Medicare for all is just some sh** so corps don't have to spend real money on real healthcare.

https://media.tenor.com/images/1d55655c71e6806d7b74a26cf0dcb57d/tenor.gif

TheGreatYacht

11-20-2019, 12:37 AM

Cenk is a shill. Medicare for all is just some sh** so corps don't have to spend real money on real healthcare.

Nah. It will work. Senior citizens in America LOVE their Medicare insurance. We are the only country in the developed world without some type of universal or single payer healthcare. Just get the for-profit health insurance companies and big pharma drug cartels out of the way. But we cannot have open borders and provide healthcare to illegal aliens.

https://youtu.be/O-QP5TBTVhY

Spurtacular

11-20-2019, 12:40 AM

Nah. It will work. Senior citizens in America LOVE their Medicare insurance. We are the only country in the developed world without some type of universal or single payer healthcare. Just get the for-profit health insurance companies and big pharma drug cartels out of the way. But we cannot have open borders and provide healthcare to illegal aliens.

https://youtu.be/O-QP5TBTVhY

That won't happen. Both parties are enablers.

TheGreatYacht

11-20-2019, 12:42 AM

That won't happen. Both parties are enablers.

Unfortunately

Spurtacular

11-20-2019, 12:43 AM

https://media.tenor.com/images/1d55655c71e6806d7b74a26cf0dcb57d/tenor.gif

You didn't see him all up in Hillary's butt right until she lost? Then it was suddenly back to the Democrats are evil corporatists. :lmao

spurraider21

11-20-2019, 12:51 AM

Cenk is a shill. Medicare for all is just some sh** so corps don't have to spend real money on real healthcare.
huh? every medicare for all proposal includes a large part of its funding coming from employers...

Spurtacular

11-20-2019, 12:53 AM

huh? every medicare for all proposal includes a large part of its funding coming from employers...

Oh, a big pot of unaccountable. How you think that'd turn up, Lite?

:lmao You think Amazon and the like are tax dodgers now.

Spurtacular

11-23-2019, 06:52 PM

huh? every medicare for all proposal includes a large part of its funding coming from employers...

Maybe you should pay for your own shit. Are you okay with sacrificing your life if it means Medicare for all?

RandomGuy

11-25-2019, 02:28 PM

Cenk is a shill. Medicare for all is just some sh** so corps don't have to spend real money on real healthcare.

Wow. :rollin

Sure.

RandomGuy

11-25-2019, 02:30 PM

Nah. It will work. Senior citizens in America LOVE their Medicare insurance. We are the only country in the developed world without some type of universal or single payer healthcare. Just get the for-profit health insurance companies and big pharma drug cartels out of the way.

Pretty much with you there.

But we cannot have open borders and provide healthcare to illegal aliens.

...and then you take ONE more shot of stupid. smh

spurraider21

11-25-2019, 02:43 PM

Oh, a big pot of unaccountable. How you think that'd turn up, Lite?

:lmao You think Amazon and the like are tax dodgers now.

Maybe you should pay for your own shit. Are you okay with sacrificing your life if it means Medicare for all?
incoherent rambling. your initial post on the subject stated that corporations wouldn't have to spend money on healthcare under M4A. which is wrong.

Spurtacular

11-25-2019, 03:42 PM

incoherent rambling. your initial post on the subject stated that corporations wouldn't have to spend money on healthcare under M4A. which is wrong.

I never said they wouldn't contribute a cent, philo.

Are you willing to die so that others can have shitty health care?

Spurtacular

11-25-2019, 03:45 PM

Wow. :rollin

Sure.

Disbelieft from the cuck who says that social security which is going bankrupt is better than high-paying annuities.

spurraider21

11-25-2019, 03:53 PM

I never said they wouldn't contribute a cent, philo.
but they will be the primary contributors according to the plans that have been put out. it completely contradicts your claim no matter how vague you made it

Are you willing to die so that others can have shitty health care?
nope. good thing that's not on the table. thats more or less akin to our current system where some people cant afford care and die, so that others can afford the expensive shitty care we currently have

boutons_deux

11-25-2019, 03:55 PM

American longevity is below other industrial countries

American longevity is at least equal to the avg of other industrial for the class of American people who make it to age 65 for Medicare insurance.

iow, American health care "for profit" is manslaughter, as is Repugs not expanding Medicaid under ACA.

In America, there is NOTHING more valuable, nothing has priority over profit

Spurtacular

11-25-2019, 04:04 PM

but they will be the primary contributors according to the plans that have been put out. it completely contradicts your claim no matter how vague you made it

They'll pay and get their tax breaks from it; but it's the workers who always make the real payments on it, Lite.

Spurtacular

11-25-2019, 04:05 PM

RandomGuy

11-25-2019, 04:27 PM

nope. good thing that's not on the table. thats more or less akin to our current system where some people cant afford care and die, so that others can afford the expensive shitty care we currently have

You think that your current health plan could kill you? Tell us about it.

We ration health care by ability to pay. That is estimated to kill tens of thousands per year.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1955366/
Delayed Access to Health Care and Mortality

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2775760/
Health Insurance and Mortality in US Adults

etc.

Plenty of anedotal stories about what the lack of medical care can do, in addition to the wider data-driven studies in peer reviewed journals.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/22/20950223/drug-rehab-addiction-treatment-insurance-ed-fahy-maureen-oreilly

Spurtacular

11-25-2019, 04:35 PM

We ration health care by ability to pay. That is estimated to kill tens of thousands per year.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1955366/
Delayed Access to Health Care and Mortality

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2775760/
Health Insurance and Mortality in US Adults

etc.

Plenty of anedotal stories about what the lack of medical care can do, in addition to the wider data-driven studies in peer reviewed journals.
https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/11/22/20950223/drug-rehab-addiction-treatment-insurance-ed-fahy-maureen-oreilly

What? There are realities based on who is paying what?

Guess what, Random Cuck? Those realities won't be going away just because you want government to steal earnings.

spurraider21

11-25-2019, 04:50 PM

You think that your current health plan could kill you? Tell us about it.
nope. your reading comprehension is poor.

people who dont have health care because they cant afford it or get it through work are the ones dying because they're not getting the care/treatment they need. that is a byproduct of our current system.

spurraider21

11-25-2019, 04:50 PM

They'll pay and get their tax breaks from it; but it's the workers who always make the real payments on it, Lite.
what do you mean pay and get tax breaks? the funding comes from their taxes :lol... you dont get tax breaks for paying taxes

RandomGuy

11-25-2019, 05:25 PM

What? There are realities based on who is paying what?

Guess what, Random Cuck? Those realities won't be going away just because you want government to steal earnings.

smh.

I tried to address your point. I get "cuckity cuck cuck" tourettes.

Your problem here is that, yes, by paying for health care for these people, that will prevent deaths. This is not difficult.

Now, go ahead and say cuck a few more times. Please.

Spurtacular

11-25-2019, 05:29 PM

nope. your reading comprehension is poor.

people who dont have health care because they cant afford it or get it through work are the ones dying because they're not getting the care/treatment they need. that is a byproduct of our current system.

It's a byproduct of tying healthcare to employment. Persons with adequate savings should be able to afford healthcare at all times.

Spurtacular

11-25-2019, 05:30 PM

what do you mean pay and get tax breaks? the funding comes from their taxes :lol... you dont get tax breaks for paying taxes

There's always tax breaks available for these corps, Lite. Get with it.

Spurtacular

11-25-2019, 05:34 PM

smh.

I tried to address your point. I get "cuckity cuck cuck" tourettes.

Your problem here is that, yes, by paying for health care for these people, that will prevent deaths. This is not difficult.

Now, go ahead and say cuck a few more times. Please.

If it's medicare for all, why are they saying it has to be tied to employment? No Democrat scam you won't support, random cuck.

RandomGuy

12-03-2019, 04:40 PM

Now, go ahead and say cuck a few more times. Please.

random cuck.

Dance little puppet. Say it again.

RandomGuy

12-03-2019, 04:41 PM

It's a byproduct of tying healthcare to employment. Persons with adequate savings should be able to afford healthcare at all times.

People without adequate savings... well, they can just die. Ah libertarianism in action.

Money>people

RandomGuy

12-03-2019, 04:42 PM

If it's medicare for all, why are they saying it has to be tied to employment? No Democrat scam you won't support,

I am all for anything that increases access to health care. Democrat ideas are pretty much the only workable ideas available. Feel free to put up a Republican idea. :rollin

Spurtacular

12-03-2019, 06:22 PM

People without adequate savings... well, they can just die. Ah libertarianism in action.

Money>people

Aw, RandomCuck. We're you not paying attention to the ant and the grasshopper?

Spurtacular

12-03-2019, 06:23 PM

I am all for anything that increases access to health care. Democrat ideas are pretty much the only workable ideas available. Feel free to put up a Republican idea. :rollin

It increases access to shit care. Good thinking, stupid fucking CuckGuy.

RandomGuy

12-04-2019, 11:11 AM

It increases access to shit care. Good thinking, stupid fucking CuckGuy.

Sooo which is better, no health care, or "shit care".

Americans are driving to Canada, Mexico, and flying to places like Cambodia now to be able to afford care, RIGHT NOW.

RandomGuy

12-04-2019, 11:12 AM

Aw, RandomCuck. We're you not paying attention to the ant and the grasshopper?

Public policy by ancient parable.

Sorry, I'll pass. We can do better these days.

Either you can present data, or you can't. If you can't... feel free to stick to magic stories.

RandomGuy

12-04-2019, 11:15 AM

Now, go ahead and say cuck a few more times. Please.

random cuck.

Dance little puppet. Say it again.

Cuck?

Cuck

:rollin

Shit, you really can't help yourself at this point. Keep saying it.

Spurtacular

12-04-2019, 07:07 PM

Public policy by ancient parable.

Sorry, I'll pass. We can do better these days.

Either you can present data, or you can't. If you can't... feel free to stick to magic stories.

In your cuck parable the ants work and give up their sh** as the grasshoppers hop and fuck and then take up your spoils.

:lmao "better"

:rollin

Spurtacular

12-04-2019, 07:08 PM

RandomGuy

12-05-2019, 10:39 AM

RandomGuy

12-05-2019, 10:41 AM

Now, go ahead and say cuck a few more times. Please.

random cuck.

Dance little puppet. Say it again.

Cuck?

Cuck

:rollin

Shit, you really can't help yourself at this point. Keep saying it.

cuck

:lmao

RandomGuy

12-05-2019, 10:44 AM

Sooo which is better, no health care, or "shit care".

Americans are driving to Canada, Mexico, and flying to places like Cambodia now to be able to afford care, RIGHT NOW.

Even after Obamacare, huh?

So, you don't really have an answer. First solid critical thinking question and you fold.

Let me answer: "shit care" is better than "no care". That is what this study shows:

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage

Uninsured, working-age Americans have 40 percent higher death risk than privately insured counterparts

Nearly 45,000 annual deaths are associated with lack of health insurance, according to a new study published online today by the American Journal of Public Health. That figure is about two and a half times higher than an estimate from the Institute of Medicine (IOM) in 2002.

The study, conducted at Harvard Medical School and Cambridge Health Alliance, found that uninsured, working-age Americans have a 40 percent higher risk of death than their privately insured counterparts, up from a 25 percent excess death rate found in 1993.
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

boutons_deux

12-05-2019, 11:06 AM

America’s Red State Death Trip

Why does falling life expectancy track political orientation?

the past few decades have been marked by growing divergence among regions along several dimensions, all closely correlated.

In particular, the political divide is also, increasingly, an economic divide. As The Times’s Tom Edsall put it in a recent article (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/opinion/trump-economy.html),

“red and blue voters live in different economies.”
What Edsall didn’t point out is that red and blue voters don’t just live differently, they also die differently.

Democratic-leaning areas used to look similar to Republican-leaning areas (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2019/09/10/america-has-two-economies-and-theyre-diverging-fast/) in terms of productivity, income and education.

But they have been rapidly diverging, with blue areas getting more productive, richer and better educated.

In the close election of 2016,

counties that supported Hillary Clinton accounted for 64 percent of output (https://www.brookings.edu/blog/the-avenue/2016/11/29/another-clinton-trump-divide-high-output-america-vs-low-output-america/), almost twice the share of Trump country.

he red-blue divide isn’t just about money. It’s also, increasingly, a matter of life and death.

U.S. life expectancy has been below that of other advanced countries (https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/u-s-life-expectancy-compare-countries/#item-le_the-u-s-has-seen-slower-growth-in-life-expectancy-than-comparable-countries_2019) for a long time.

rise in mortality has, in turn, been largely a result of rising “deaths of despair”: drug overdoses, suicides and alcohol.

In 1990, today’s red and blue states had almost the same life expectancy.

Since then, however, life expectancy in Clinton states has risen (https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1200782901996077057) more or less in line with other advanced countries,

compared with almost no gain in Trump country.

At this point, blue-state residents can expect to live more than four years longer than their red-state counterparts.

In 1990, Texas and Florida had higher life expectancy than New York and almost matched California; today, they’re far behind.

The growing gap in educational levels has also surely played a role: Better-educated people tend to be healthier than the less educated.

the prevalence of obesity (https://obesity.procon.org/us-obesity-levels-by-state/) has soared all across America since 1990, but obesity rates are significantly higher in red states.

the facts are utterly inconsistent with the conservative diagnosis of what ails America.

even within America

these evils are concentrated in states that voted for Trump,

and have largely bypassed the more secular blue states.

So something bad is definitely happening to American society.

But the conservative diagnosis of that problem is wrong — dead wrong.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/02/opinion/life-expectancy-united-states.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/02/opinion/life-expectancy-united-states.html)

=======================

Red and Blue Voters Live in Different Economies

And they are headed in different directions —

with serious consequences for the president and his political opponents.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/25/opinion/trump-economy.html?auth=login-google&login=google

Spurtacular

12-05-2019, 05:35 PM

So, you don't really have an answer. First solid critical thinking question and you fold.

Let me answer: "shit care" is better than "no care". That is what this study shows:

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

So what. There's gonna be studies linked to Medicare for all killing people to if that passes.

RandomGuy

12-05-2019, 05:39 PM

So what. There's gonna be studies linked to Medicare for all killing people to if that passes.

:wow

Will the number be more, or less than 45,000 per year? How do you know?

RandomGuy

12-10-2019, 10:33 AM

North Carolina’s New House Map Hands Democrats Two Seats — But It Still Leans Republican

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/north-carolinas-new-house-map-hands-democrats-two-seats-but-it-still-leans-republican/

RandomGuy

12-11-2019, 06:14 PM

The 2020 Congressional-Retirement Tracker

For the second consecutive election, more Republicans than Democrats are forgoing reelection, a potentially ominous sign for the GOP in 2020.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/11/retirement-congress-2020-hurd-alexander/596965/

boutons_deux

12-11-2019, 06:57 PM

RandomGuy

12-11-2019, 07:51 PM

incumbents win 90%+ of the time, very hard to unseat,

so Repug retirements are Dem invitations.

Pretty much. It is the canary in the coal mine, a warning light on the control panel. I strongly suspect 2020 is going to be a blowout of epic proportions. Conservative pundits made vastly too much of Trumps election. I can't wait for another Rove-style meltdown.

TSA

12-11-2019, 07:57 PM

Pretty much. It is the canary in the coal mine, a warning light on the control panel. I strongly suspect 2020 is going to be a blowout of epic proportions. Conservative pundits made vastly too much of Trumps election. I can't wait for another Rove-style meltdown.

I always enjoyed farting in church.

http://i64.tinypic.com/2dqnko6.png

How does Hillary's ass taste ducks?

It's looking like Trump is going to lose worse than Romney. I'm looking forward to another Karl Rove meltdown.
DMC :lol

Reck

12-11-2019, 08:01 PM

DMC (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20665) :lol

Not getting shit on enough on the Horowitz thread, TSA?

RandomGuy

12-11-2019, 08:12 PM

DMC :lol

Wrong thread sport-o.

TheGreatYacht

12-13-2019, 11:00 PM

SJW's and Feminists Push Bernie Sanders to Unendorse Cenk Uygur

https://youtu.be/5QrJyjkcRFo

Reck

12-13-2019, 11:40 PM

SJW's and Feminists Push Bernie Sanders to Unendorse Cenk Uygur

https://youtu.be/5QrJyjkcRFo

What's this?
https://twitter.com/GuardAmerican/status/1205612795724742656

RandomGuy

01-13-2020, 04:40 PM

What's this?
https://twitter.com/GuardAmerican/status/1205612795724742656

Uygar is a lightning rod.

I take the sound bites with little import.

RandomGuy

01-31-2020, 01:12 PM

https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/status/1223234638312660992

Another venal Trump party action that makes the contrast easier between the two parties.

RandomGuy

01-31-2020, 02:16 PM

https://www.270towin.com/2020-senate-election/

True wave election can be speculated here.

Give the four tossups and no other changes... split 50/50. Dems win Presidency, that is 51/50

Give just one "lean Trump party" and that changes. Lose all three "leans" and it is 53/47.

Probably as good as that could get, barring something truly odd, which is too hard to predict this far out.

Most likely remains a split Senate. 50/50. Dems keep a good chunk of their gains from 2018, leaving legislative and executive in the the Democrats hands, by a fairly thin majority in most places.

RandomGuy

02-07-2020, 06:06 PM

An Unsettling New Theory: There Is No Swing Voter
Rachel Bitecofer’s radical new theory predicted the midterms spot-on. So who’s going to win 2020?

https://static.politico.com/dims4/default/d6b7875/2147483647/resize/1160x/quality/90/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.politico.com%2Ffe%2Fe8%2 Ff9d2fd8d427d896af5b54dd81852%2Ffreelander-bitecofer-secondary5.jpg

Once you know the shape of the electorate, she argues, you can pretty much tell how that electorate is going to vote. And the shape of the electorate in 2018, and 2020, for that matter, was determined on the night of November 8, 2016. The new electorate, as she forecasts it, is made up mostly of people who want a president named anything but Donald Trump, competing with another group that fears ruin should anyone but Donald Trump be president.

Although the ranks of independents are growing, up to 40 percent by some surveys, Bitecofer says campaigns have spent entirely too much time courting them, and the media has spent entirely too much caring about their preferences. The real “swing” doesn’t come from voters who choose between two parties, she argues, but from people who choose to vote, or not (or, if they do vote, vote for a third party). The actual percentage of swing voters in any given national election according to her own analysis is closer to 6 or 7 percent than the 15 or 20 most analysts think are out there, and that larger group, Bitecofer says, are “closet partisans” who don’t identify with a party but still vote with one. (The remaining 6 percent or so of true independents, she says, tend to vote for whoever promises a break with the status quo.

“If you think of independents as a fixed pool of voters that change preferences,” she says, “well, that has implications for how you campaign after them. But if you are talking about the preference of independents changing because the pool of independents changes, well that is a different fucking banana.”

Bitecofer has already released her 2020 model, and is alone among election forecasters in giving the Democrats—who, of course, do not yet have a nominee—the 270 electoral votes required to claim the presidency without a single toss-up state flipping their way. She sees anyone in the top tier, or even the second tier of candidates, as strong enough to win back most of the Trump states in the industrial Midwest, stealing a march in the South in places like North Carolina and Florida, and even competing in traditional red states like Georgia, Texas and Arizona. The Democrats are likely to pick up seats again in the House, she says, pegging the total at nine pickups in Texas alone, :wow and have a decent chance of taking back the Senate.

It will be very interesting. I think she is exactly spot on for her theory.

It puts into a more concrete framework, something I have gotten an intuitive sense of, but never quite put into words, i.e. swing voters are rarer than changes in WHO turns out to vote.

It also puts some meat on my own sense that Trump has been the best thing to happen to Democrats in my life time. I see it directly here in my corner of Texas.

RandomGuy

02-07-2020, 06:17 PM

So, you don't really have an answer. First solid critical thinking question and you fold.

Let me answer: "shit care" is better than "no care". That is what this study shows:

New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/sto...alth-coverage/

So what. There's gonna be studies linked to Medicare for all killing people to if that passes.

If, without coverage, 45,000 people die, and with Medicare for all that falls by 50%, then 22,500 die.

Meaning that Medicare for all saves tens of thousands of lives.

That is what, you booger-eating moron. Jesus, you want me to use smaller words?

boutons_deux

02-07-2020, 06:37 PM

If, without coverage, 45,000 people die, and with Medicare for all that falls by 50%, then 22,500 die.

Meaning that Medicare for all saves tens of thousand of lives.

That is what, you booger-eating moron. Jesus, you want me to use smaller words?

4+ years of data are in. Medicaid expansion for those benefiting from M E

1) reduced disease and death rate

2) increased the employment rate

compared with states that didn't expand Medicaid.

iow, Trash/Repug policies denying medical care to the poor are policies of negligent manslaughter.

"Cruelty Is The Point"

Spurtacular

02-07-2020, 08:19 PM

If, without coverage, 45,000 people die, and with Medicare for all that falls by 50%, then 22,500 die.

Meaning that Medicare for all saves tens of thousands of lives.

That is what, you booger-eating moron. Jesus, you want me to use smaller words?

It kills hundreds of thousands by sucking away prosperity.

GTFO, cuck.

RandomGuy

02-08-2020, 11:23 AM

cuck.
:lmao

Keep saying it little puppetka. I find is very funny.

RandomGuy

02-08-2020, 11:25 AM

It kills hundreds of thousands by sucking away prosperity.
.

Prove it or fold. Bullshit has been called. Acceptable: peer reviewed economic research.

Spurtacular

02-08-2020, 02:44 PM

Prove it or fold. Bullshit has been called. Acceptable: peer reviewed economic research.

:lol Prove a negative
:lol Rat cuck

Spurtacular

02-08-2020, 02:45 PM

Prove it or fold. Bullshit has been called. Acceptable: peer reviewed economic research.

:cry Peer reviewed :cry

:lol Keep bragging about the propagandists stroking each other off, cuck

ChumpDumper

02-08-2020, 02:46 PM

:lol Prove a negative
:lol Rat cuckYou made a positive claim, derp.

Spurtacular

02-08-2020, 02:52 PM

You made a positive claim, derp.

No.

Ankle Biter Chump :lol

RandomGuy

02-10-2020, 02:30 PM

cuck

:lmao

RandomGuy

02-10-2020, 02:36 PM

Let me answer: "shit care" is better than "no care". That is what this study shows:
New study finds 45,000 deaths annually linked to lack of health coverage
https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2009/09/new-study-finds-45000-deaths-annually-linked-to-lack-of-health-coverage/

So what. There's gonna be studies linked to Medicare for all killing people to if that passes.

If, without coverage, 45,000 people die[then giving them coverage will save lives]

[Medicare] kills hundreds of thousands by sucking away prosperity.

Prove it or fold. Bullshit has been called. Acceptable: peer reviewed economic research.

:cry Peer reviewed :cry
:lol Keep bragging about the propagandists stroking each other off, cuck

... and you folded. I win. :lol cuck tourettes.

RandomGuy

02-21-2020, 01:36 PM

In 2020 Trump Will Reduce the Blue Wall to Rubble
Jobs talk and pie in the sky walks.

https://spectator.org/in-2020-trump-will-reduce-the-blue-wall-to-rubble/

The Great Liberal Freakout Has Begun
Biden is fading fast, and Democrats are losing their minds.
https://spectator.org/the-great-liberal-freakout-has-begun/

Interesting view from the conservative side of the aisle.

baseline bum

02-21-2020, 01:50 PM

RandomGuy

02-21-2020, 02:46 PM

The Clinton Democrats freak out over a Roosevelt Democrat possibly winning the nomination is sickening to watch.

Eyup. Talk to a few occasionally. They won't vote for Sanders no matter what.

When I point out that cedes judicial nominees to ultra-conservative activist think tanks, including Ginsbergs seat, they shrug. It makes me want to smack people.

Millennial_Messiah

02-22-2020, 08:18 PM

RandomGuy

02-24-2020, 01:46 PM

Obviously the dream scenario for the progressives is that Bernie wins the primary, a bunch of progressive Democrat senator candidates win their primaries, and the Senate goes 60-40 blue or greater in November. (And Bernie wins the White House.)

Dems only need 50 seats if Bernie wins. Remember that the nominating process is now 51 votes, thanks to McConnell's changes. Senate majorities of 60 are a thing of the past.

boutons_deux

02-24-2020, 02:22 PM

I read that the Dem 1%ers will vote for Trash to protect/increase their many $Ms

(while being hyper liberal/progressive on everything else, except their $$$)

CosmicCowboy

02-24-2020, 02:29 PM

Spurminator

02-24-2020, 02:39 PM

Remember that the nominating process is now 51 votes, thanks to McConnell's changes.

:wtf
This was a Harry Reid change. Short sighted and disastrous.

spurraider21

02-24-2020, 02:57 PM

:wtf
This was a Harry Reid change. Short sighted and disastrous.
yeah, he opened the floodgates. mcconnel just expanded it to SCOTUS seats as well

RandomGuy

02-24-2020, 02:58 PM

That would certainly be a dream.

That is the result of Trump party gerrymandering. More extreme candidates on both ends of the spectrum.

Spurminator

02-24-2020, 03:03 PM

yeah, he opened the floodgates. mcconnel just expanded it to SCOTUS seats as well

You're right.

And if we're being honest with ourselves McConnell would have likely triggered it on his own regardless.

Millennial_Messiah

02-24-2020, 06:20 PM

yeah, he opened the floodgates. mcconnel just expanded it to SCOTUS seats as well

appreciate your honesty tbh. Any dems pissy about the 51-49 thing need to remember obamacare.

then again, the blue wave of '08 is unlike anything we'll probably see again at least for a long time. The dems won senate seats in some VERY unusual states that year, and it leveled out in '14. The senate will always have a natural republican bias though.

spurraider21

02-24-2020, 06:28 PM

appreciate your honesty tbh. Any dems pissy about the 51-49 thing need to remember obamacare.

then again, the blue wave of '08 is unlike anything we'll probably see again at least for a long time. The dems won senate seats in some VERY unusual states that year, and it leveled out in '14. The senate will always have a natural republican bias though.
obama was also obstructed at a historic rate...

Millennial_Messiah

02-24-2020, 06:47 PM

obama was also obstructed at a historic rate...

because in his first term he tried going too far to the left... wisened up after 2010ish though...

then again, if Bernie won the oval office, that "historic rate" would be shattered by the super bowl after his inauguration.

spurraider21

02-24-2020, 06:52 PM

because in his first term he tried going too far to the left... wisened up after 2010ish though...

then again, if Bernie won the oval office, that "historic rate" would be shattered by the super bowl after his inauguration.
:lol

Millennial_Messiah

02-24-2020, 06:57 PM

:lol

:lol "close gitmo"
:lol stimulus package
:lol globalist climate "treaty"
:lol Israel shouldn't be prioritized over Palestine, even though Muslims own 97% of the Middle East
:lol Fort Hood was "workplace violence"
:lol let's be friends with Iran
:lol let's let Baghdadi out of prison
:lol let's overhaul the healthcare system
:lol jacking up taxes
:lol my son would have looked like Trayvon
:lol forcing ordinary citizens to pony up to greedy healthcare companies or else pay a fine to the federal government
:lol hopey changey

RandomGuy

02-25-2020, 08:02 AM

:lol "close gitmo"
:lol stimulus package
:lol globalist climate "treaty"
:lol Israel shouldn't be prioritized over Palestine, even though Muslims own 97% of the Middle East
:lol Fort Hood was "workplace violence"
:lol let's be friends with Iran
:lol let's let Baghdadi out of prison
:lol let's overhaul the healthcare system
:lol jacking up taxes
:lol my son would have looked like Trayvon
:lol forcing ordinary citizens to pony up to greedy healthcare companies or else pay a fine to the federal government
:lol hopey changey

So cute you think that is "left"

Going to guess you think Obama was a racist too

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 07:08 AM

:lol "close gitmo"
:lol stimulus package
:lol globalist climate "treaty"
:lol Israel shouldn't be prioritized over Palestine, even though Muslims own 97% of the Middle East
:lol Fort Hood was "workplace violence"
:lol let's be friends with Iran
:lol let's let Baghdadi out of prison
:lol let's overhaul the healthcare system
:lol jacking up taxes
:lol my son would have looked like Trayvon
:lol forcing ordinary citizens to pony up to greedy healthcare companies or else pay a fine to the federal government
:lol hopey changey

But hey let's unpack this. First up:

"Close gitmo"

Indefinite detention without trial. Doesn't seem very "conservative" of constitutional rights.

boutons_deux

02-26-2020, 09:59 AM

But hey let's unpack this. First up:

"Close gitmo"

Indefinite detention without trial. Doesn't seem very "conservative" of constitutional rights.

The US Constitution only applies to those-who-can-pay, white male US citizens, eg, not Puerto Ricans, Native Americans, and certainly not to non-citizens.

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 11:40 AM

The US Constitution only applies to those-who-can-pay, white male US citizens, eg, not Puerto Ricans, Native Americans, and certainly not to non-citizens.

That does seem to be what the Trump party is aiming for.

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 11:44 AM

Ahead of 2020 elections, Kentucky has a record number of registered voters

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ahead-of-2020-elections-kentucky-has-a-record-number-of-registered-voters/ar-BB109Ppd

boutons_deux

02-26-2020, 01:51 PM

That does seem to be what the Trump party is aiming for.

guantanamo prisoners were denied speedy trial, legal representation, medical care, gavage, were tortured and mentally destroyed, all by US govt employees.

They were humans, but non American white male citizens.

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 01:53 PM

guantanamo prisoners were denied speedy trial, legal representation, medical care, gavage, were tortured and mentally destroyed, all by US govt employees.

They were humans, but non American white male citizens.

More true than many on the right would admit to. If they were white christians gitmo wouldn't exist.

TSA

02-26-2020, 02:04 PM

spurraider21

02-26-2020, 02:13 PM

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1232512668533239808
big win for a special election to be sure... but that seat is going to be up for grabs this november anyway.

general election turnout will likely flip it back, imo

TSA

02-26-2020, 02:18 PM

big win for a special election to be sure... but that seat is going to be up for grabs this november anyway.

general election turnout will likely flip it back, imo

I'm sure you're a blast at parties

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 02:22 PM

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1232512668533239808

BIG WIN in Kentucky House District 99.

It’s a district Democrats held for 33 YEARS, where Democrats outnumber Republicans by double digits, and one the Democrat governor carried in 2019.

But tonight, Republicans flipped the seat!

— Ronna McDaniel (@GOPChairwoman) February 26, 2020

Interesting. When does this member of Congress get their first day?

spurraider21

02-26-2020, 02:24 PM

I'm sure you're a blast at parties
umm... ok?

i didnt know you wanted discussion. got it. just tweets.

Spurminator

02-26-2020, 02:40 PM

I'm sure you're a blast at parties

Do the parties you go to involve people sitting around reading celebratory tweets by GOP Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel?

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 02:44 PM

Do the parties you go to involve people sitting around reading celebratory tweets by GOP Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel?

Probably. He attends parties probably in the "restaurant" sense. "party of one"... heh

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 02:46 PM

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1232512668533239808

:rollin :lmao :rollin :lmao :rollin :lmao :rollin

Finally looked it up. Off-season special election in Kentucky state house with 8481 votes cast TOTAL.

that is a pathetic attempt at trolling even for you. wow. just... wow. TSA

vy65

02-26-2020, 02:49 PM

Do the parties you go to involve people sitting around reading celebratory tweets by GOP Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel?

:lol

ChumpDumper

02-26-2020, 02:58 PM

Do the parties you go to involve people sitting around reading celebratory tweets by GOP Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel?He goes around talking about technical terms related to his AR15s and asks people to interpret the weird art he keeps on his phone.

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 03:10 PM

He goes around talking about technical terms related to his AR15s and asks people to interpret the weird art he keeps on his phone.

"have you heard about our lord and savior, Qanon?"

Millennial_Messiah

02-26-2020, 06:45 PM

But hey let's unpack this. First up:

"Close gitmo"

Indefinite detention without trial. Doesn't seem very "conservative" of constitutional rights.

The Constitution applies to its rightful citizens, certainly not murderous, terroristic non-citizens. They deserved to be pooped on by birds all day and given a daily cock meat sandwich.

But I hope if Bernie wins and enacts the Merkel "let them all in" policy, a pack of Muslim animal goons invade your home and murder your family when you're out walking your dog. Maybe then you'll be singing a different tune.

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 07:12 PM

The Constitution applies to its rightful citizens, certainly not murderous, terroristic non-citizens. They deserved to be pooped on by birds all day and given a daily cock meat sandwich.

But I hope if Bernie wins and enacts the Merkel "let them all in" policy, a pack of Muslim animal goons invade your home and murder your family when you're out walking your dog. Maybe then you'll be singing a different tune.

Sorry man. Been to the local mosque for visitation days. They are nice people, and the potluck was really good. Took the family, so my kids could see what it was like. they were, of course, bored out of their minds.

I am more likely to be murdered by white christian terrorists, statistically.

I can't force you to have a non-conditional sense of ethics, but hey. whatevs.

As for wishing my family dead, go fuck yourself, you pasty faced twat. That is over the line, is the kind of cowardly shit that pissants like you like to say from behind a keyboard. I guess I should expect as much from moron libertarians at this point. Almost without exception you are mentally and ethically stunted, evil human beings.

I hope he does let them all in, and they move in right next to you.

RandomGuy

02-26-2020, 07:25 PM

:lol globalist climate "treaty"

So let's unpack this one. Do you have a cogent analysis of this, or just more moronic smileys?

ElNono

02-27-2020, 04:49 AM

The Constitution applies to its rightful citizens, certainly not murderous, terroristic non-citizens. They deserved to be pooped on by birds all day and given a daily cock meat sandwich.

You couldn't be more wrong. They might deserve all that, but the Constitution applies to them much like it applies to KKK members, illegal immigrants and anybody else. That's exactly what makes America great, the fact that *everyone* gets their day in court*...

* how long that day lasts, depends on how much money you have, but you get the gist of it.

Reck

02-27-2020, 05:01 AM

umm... ok?

i didnt know you wanted discussion. got it. just tweets.

In the words of derp: TSA wanted his tiny W and you took it away.

Millennial_Messiah

02-27-2020, 10:29 PM

Sorry man. Been to the local mosque for visitation days. They are nice people, and the potluck was really good. Took the family, so my kids could see what it was like. they were, of course, bored out of their minds.

I am more likely to be murdered by white christian terrorists, statistically.

I can't force you to have a non-conditional sense of ethics, but hey. whatevs.

As for wishing my family dead, go fuck yourself, you pasty faced twat. That is over the line, is the kind of cowardly shit that pissants like you like to say from behind a keyboard. I guess I should expect as much from moron libertarians at this point. Almost without exception you are mentally and ethically stunted, evil human beings.

I hope he does let them all in, and they move in right next to you.

yeah I'm the type of guy who will walk into a mosque/muslim convention event (I have, in my UNT days) and wish them all a juammar mubarak (on fridays) and assalam alaikum. My arabic is actually pretty decent because i've watched a ton of news in my life. I go there and meet the people and pretend to be enamored by islam, I brag about my knowledge of the five pillars and the quran and hadiths, I eat 4000 calories worth of the delicious halal food, and then I go to my car and drive off and say "haha fuck islam" tbh

RandomGuy

02-28-2020, 02:15 PM

So let's unpack this one. Do you have a cogent analysis of this, or just more moronic smileys?

yeah I'm the type of guy who will walk into a mosque/muslim convention event (I have, in my UNT days) and wish them all a juammar mubarak (on fridays) and assalam alaikum. My arabic is actually pretty decent because i've watched a ton of news in my life. I go there and meet the people and pretend to be enamored by islam, I brag about my knowledge of the five pillars and the quran and hadiths, I eat 4000 calories worth of the delicious halal food, and then I go to my car and drive off and say "haha fuck islam" tbh

So no, you don't have anything beyond moronic smileys.

Got it.

RandomGuy

02-28-2020, 02:18 PM

TSA

02-28-2020, 02:30 PM

Is a pathetic attempt at trolling truly pathetic if the target is still triggered days later?

RandomGuy

02-28-2020, 02:35 PM

Is a pathetic attempt at trolling truly pathetic if the target is still triggered days later?

You have "triggered" confused with "amused at another of your failures", pizza-boichik.

boutons_deux

03-05-2020, 08:28 AM

Shitbag Repugs in shithole Texas, say "thanks, Repug shitbag SCOTUS"

Texas Officials Have Already Rigged The 2020 Election. Super Tuesday Is Proof.

Polling place closures in Black and Latino communities led to long lines on primary day and will hurt November’s contest.

On Super Tuesday, long lines at a number of Texas polling stations cast a pall over the Democratic primary (https://www.huffpost.com/news/topic/democratic-primary), sowing confusion and anger on an otherwise clarifying day for the party.

people were forced to wait hours to vote on Tuesday in part because for several years,

the state has systematically closed polling places in communities with large and growing Black and Latino populations.

Texas election officials rapidly eliminated polling places in Black and Latino communities

after the Supreme Court overturned a key provision of the Voting Rights Act in 2013.

The law had previously required a number of states with

histories of racist voting practices, like Texas,

to seek federal approval before making changes to their election rules.

some Harris County residents said they had to wait in line for several hours to vote,

the last voter at Texas Southern University, a college in the county, waited almost seven hours to cast a ballot.

the 50 Texas counties that gained the most Black and Latino residents from 2012 to 2018 eliminated 542 polling sites over that span,

while the 50 counties that gained the fewest Black and Latino residents during that time eliminated only 34 sites.

“Republicans’ only way to retain power is to basically curb the vote,

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/texas-super-tuesday-rigged-election_n_5e601c1dc5b644545ea4c2cc

Forcing voters to register/vote at county level, rather than a state level, blocks non-whites from voting in white polling stations.

pgardn

03-05-2020, 08:41 AM

“Pasty faced twat”

Permission to use this phrase?

RandomGuy

03-05-2020, 09:06 AM

“Pasty faced twat”

Permission to use this phrase?

Be my guest. :D

boutons_deux

03-05-2020, 10:03 AM

Trump’s DOJ Has Not Filed A Single New Voting Rights Act Case

Even Republican administrations before Trump found ways to enforce the Voting Rights Act.

refusal of President Trump’s Justice Department to engage in any meaningful, public enforcement of the Voting Rights Act has taken

Republicans’ general hostility to the law to a whole new level.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trumps-doj-has-not-filed-a-single-new-voting-rights-act-case?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29 (https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/trumps-doj-has-not-filed-a-single-new-voting-rights-act-case?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A%20tpm-news%20%28TPMNews%29)

More proof that White Male Christian Nationalism for One Party Rule is the Repug/oligarchy strategy, that will be finalized in Trash's 2nd term.

RandomGuy

03-18-2020, 05:05 PM

Is a pathetic attempt at trolling truly pathetic if the target is still triggered days later?

Your stupid political party is going to get crushed in the fall. Your Dear Leader done screwed the pooch.

I cannot wait.

I was pretty sure he was going to lose badly, but I am dead certain he will get fucking annihilated.

Hell, I'll even bet. he wins, I never post here again. Name your terms geenyus.

SnakeBoy

03-18-2020, 05:10 PM

Your stupid political party is going to get crushed in the fall. Your Dear Leader done screwed the pooch.

I cannot wait.

I was pretty sure he was going to lose badly, but I am dead certain he will get fucking annihilated.

Hell, I'll even bet. he wins, I never post here again.

Impossible to predict how the electorate will respond since this is an unprecedented event in the modern world. I'm not so sure that open borders and China is no problem is going to sell come November. We'll see what happens but I won't be surprised if "should've picked Bernie" is a common saying by the eoy.

RandomGuy

03-18-2020, 06:15 PM

Impossible to predict how the electorate will respond since this is an unprecedented event in the modern world. I'm not so sure that open borders and China is no problem is going to sell come November. We'll see what happens but I won't be surprised if "should've picked Bernie" is a common saying by the eoy.

Trump won by 77000 votes. Less than 1% of the electorate in three states.

He was less popular than he was when he took office, and his bungling, and tweeting have cemented his fate.

If you genuinely think that Democrats are going to campaign on "open borders" and "China is no problem" means you are as clueless as the rest of the brainwashed masses.

You seem too smart to fall for that kind of moronic strawman, but then again, "white millennials are leaving the democratic party".

Whatever your other competencies in life are, critical thinking and overcoming confirmation bias... is not one of them. When it comes to politics, you are a drooling idiot. I say that with a modest amount of good will.

Why do you fall for lies like that? You seem like a decent human being, my bitchy rants notwithstanding.

koriwhat

03-18-2020, 06:22 PM

the whole "trump barely won" argument is the dumbest of all. he wasn't supposed to even have a fucking chance in the first place. no chance considering all the pillars of our country were behind that cunt hillary and so were other countries.

here here to fucking the dems in their asses once again come november! :tu

koriwhat

03-18-2020, 06:23 PM

Why do you fall for lies like that?

you voted for hillary, right? :lmao

RandomGuy

03-19-2020, 01:45 PM

RandomGuy

03-27-2020, 01:25 PM

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1232512668533239808

Michigan governor says vendors ‘being told not to send stuff’ to her state — after Trump bashed her

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer on Friday made a startling claim that medical supply vendors are “being told” to avoid sending badly needed gear to her state in the middle of the coronavirus pandemic.

“What I’ve gotten back is that vendors with whom we’ve procured contracts — they’re being told not to send stuff to Michigan,” she said.

“It’s really concerning, I reached out to the White House last night and asked for a phone call with the president.”

At the time that she called the White House,

Trump was attacking her during an interview with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, in which

the president accused her of being insufficiently grateful for his assistance.

“We’ve had a big problem with the young — a woman governor,”

“You know who I’m talking about — from Michigan.

We don’t like to see the complaints. :lol

Now, she wants a declaration of emergency, and, you know,

we’ll have to make a decision on that.

But Michigan is a very important state. :lol

I love the people of Michigan.” :lol
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/michigan-governor-says-vendors-being-told-not-to-send-stuff-to-her-state-after-trump-bashed-her/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4130 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/03/michigan-governor-says-vendors-being-told-not-to-send-stuff-to-her-state-after-trump-bashed-her/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4130)

... but he will let Michigan-izers suffer and die to punish MI "young female" governor who won't suck his mythical dick

Yeah, your Dear Leader just lost Michigan this fall. Ain't no way they are gonna forget this.

rascal

03-27-2020, 07:47 PM

RandomGuy

03-27-2020, 08:47 PM

Many polls on election day had Trump within +- margin. He caught up in the last weeks.

77000

RandomGuy

03-30-2020, 09:46 PM

ElNono

03-30-2020, 09:48 PM

RandomGuy

04-03-2020, 07:55 AM

Impossible to predict how the electorate will respond since this is an unprecedented event in the modern world. I'm not so sure that open borders and China is no problem is going to sell come November. We'll see what happens but I won't be surprised if "should've picked Bernie" is a common saying by the eoy.

‘It's a sh-- sandwich': Republicans rage as Florida becomes a nightmare for Trump
https://www.politico.com/states/florida/story/2020/04/03/its-a-sh-sandwich-republicans-rage-as-florida-becomes-a-nightmare-for-trump-1271172

“It’s a sh-- sandwich, and it was designed that way by Scott,” said one DeSantis advisor. “It wasn’t about saving money. It was about making it harder for people to get benefits or keep benefits so that the unemployment numbers were low to give the governor something to brag about.”

Republican Party of Florida chairman Joe Gruters was more succinct: “$77 million? Someone should go to jail over that.”

With hundreds of thousands of Floridians out of work, the state’s overwhelmed system is making it nearly impossible for many people to even get in line for benefits.

So, Trump loses Florida. Especially once the elderly GOP voters die in bulk from infections that their state government acted late to curb.

Between the fuck ups with the unemployment and the fuckups with the slow response... this is a slam dunk for the Democrats.

boutons_deux

04-03-2020, 08:02 AM

Many polls on election day had Trump within +- margin. He caught up in the last weeks.

was a rally round the flag (not around Trash) bump, Biden is now, and again, up to 9 pts ahead

(sorry mentioning Biden and "head" in the same sentence)

DMC

04-03-2020, 08:26 AM

I think if RG rages harder here the Democrats will have a better shot at winning. He's not going hard enough.

RandomGuy

04-03-2020, 08:36 AM

[personal attack]

[sympathy/empathy] I really do wish your life was happier when you were a kid. I am mindful of what I tell my own kids, and what my wife has observed in her students. Kids who are unpleasant, are the result of some bad parenting, and hostile home environments.

Sorry man. Really.

DMC

04-03-2020, 09:35 AM

[sympathy/empathy] I really do wish your life was happier when you were a kid. I am mindful of what I tell my own kids, and what my wife has observed in her students. Kids who are unpleasant, are the result of some bad parenting, and hostile home environments.

Sorry man. Really.

Did you wife comment about your improper use of commas?

RandomGuy

04-03-2020, 10:36 AM

[snark]

Let's go with, yes, for the sake of discussion. :D

RandomGuy

04-04-2020, 12:50 PM

RandomGuy (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=1813)

As for now, to me this map seems like the most likely... Do you agree? (Except I'd also turn NM blue IMO)

https://i.imgur.com/e0qMCji.jpg

Seems to you of course. Through moron-colored glasses.

The pandemic response will cause the blue wave to crest a lot higher. You have no idea what is coming. It will surprise the fuck out of you, and you are too stupid to recognize it for the red flag that should be that your thinking is seriously out of alignment with reality.

rascal

04-04-2020, 02:00 PM

New Mexico will be blue.

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04-04-2020, 02:07 PM

Seems to you of course. Through moron-colored glasses.

The pandemic response will cause the blue wave to crest a lot higher. You have no idea what is coming. It will surprise the fuck out of you, and you are too stupid to recognize it for the red flag that should be that your thinking is seriously out of alignment with reality.

All depends on who can sell 100k-250k Corona-dead Americans to their advantage, RG. It's gonna be super tricky & it's gonna be wonderfully stupendous to bear witness. Each side will get (1) chance...none of that several bites at the old proverbial apple. Uh, uh. You'll get one & it better be good...there will not be another.

RandomGuy

04-05-2020, 10:22 PM

All depends on who can sell 100k-250k Corona-dead Americans to their advantage, RG. It's gonna be super tricky & it's gonna be wonderfully stupendous to bear witness. Each side will get (1) chance...none of that several bites at the old proverbial apple. Uh, uh. You'll get one & it better be good...there will not be another.

77,000 votes.

He has already lost Michigan.

Name the last two term president that won their second term by a larger margin of victory than their first. I'll wait.

Meanwhile, game it out:
https://www.270towin.com/

232 to 204 with 102 in the "tossup" category.

If most of the tossups go blue, as they do in wave years, that means 313-224

A deep blue wave gets Georgia as well as one or two normal red leans. 355-182

Trump will do worse than he did four years ago, and there really is no way to win re-election if he does.

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04-05-2020, 11:04 PM

77,000 votes.

He has already lost Michigan.

Name the last two term president that won their second term by a larger margin of victory than their first. I'll wait.

Meanwhile, game it out:
https://www.270towin.com/

232 to 204 with 102 in the "tossup" category.

If most of the tossups go blue, as they do in wave years, that means 313-224

A deep blue wave gets Georgia as well as one or two normal red leans. 355-182

Trump will do worse than he did four years ago, and there really is no way to win re-election if he does.

That's not true. Just because he told that woman where to jump?

It'll be a skewed campaign whereas perhaps Bloomberg just hermatizes himself leaving Biden strapped.

All the zest is out of the electorate. It's a drudgery now. Low turnout will help the old man, my old man, not yours.

I'll take a wild guess on the query:::Nixon?

ElNono

04-05-2020, 11:15 PM

That's not true. Just because he told that woman where to jump?

It'll be a skewed campaign whereas perhaps Bloomberg just hermatizes himself leaving Biden strapped.

All the zest is out of the electorate. It's a drudgery now. Low turnout will help the old man, my old man, not yours.

I'll take a wild guess on the query:::Nixon?

I just don't think Biden is likeable enough to draw the support he needs in PA, MI and FL. He definitely needs wins in PA and MI to have a shot.

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04-05-2020, 11:29 PM

I just don't think Biden is likeable enough to draw the support he needs in PA, MI and FL. He definitely needs wins in PA and MI to have a shot.

Yep, PA., is the make OR break state.

It's all out of kilter now though. Our collective heart if not broken is heavily damaged. It will be broken and we know that just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. A wide spectrum of Americans have been murdered by Corona. No class has been spared, all have been represented. Some, at disclosure are alarming leaving us to return to this Board to avoid the calamity and get lost in the comedy. The dead have not only died, but, they've died horrible deaths. (We know this. We've been told of death rattles, trachea jammed with mucous, how the hours on a Vent figure in the sure and certain demise of an American, one after another.) There is no end & none in sure and certain sight. We ain't ever been presented such a vision. Ever.

ElNono

04-05-2020, 11:50 PM

Yep, PA., is the make OR break state.

It's all out of kilter now though. Our collective heart if not broken is heavily damaged. It will be broken and we know that just as sure as the turnin' of the earth. A wide spectrum of Americans have been murdered by Corona. No class has been spared, all have been represented. Some, at disclosure are alarming leaving us to return to this Board to avoid the calamity and get lost in the comedy. The dead have not only died, but, they've died horrible deaths. (We know this. We've been told of death rattles, trachea jammed with mucous, how the hours on a Vent figure in the sure and certain demise of an American, one after another.) There is no end & none in sure and certain sight. We ain't ever been presented such a vision. Ever.

If cards are played right, there should be a relative 5 months of normalcy until the election. How that plays out between these two terrible candidates, it's anyone guess though.

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04-05-2020, 11:56 PM

If cards are played right, there should be a relative 5 months of normalcy until the election. How that plays out between these two terrible candidates, it's anyone guess though.

I can't see (5 months) El. I could just be scared, but, by the time this is over the entire country is going to be in a state of shock. Real shock, not the usual nonsense after a regular scare where we guffaw, pick up the few pieces that have fallen and carry on as if nothing happened.

Something has happened.

ElNono

04-06-2020, 12:24 AM

I can't see (5 months) El. I could just be scared, but, by the time this is over the entire country is going to be in a state of shock. Real shock, not the usual nonsense after a regular scare where we guffaw, pick up the few pieces that have fallen and carry on as if nothing happened.

Something has happened.

One would hope some lessons were learned. I think the vast majority of people will go back to work and won't have much time to think about anything else, simply because that's how the majority of people live. There's no time for introspection or grieving, the altar of money doesn't like to wait, especially when it's in dire straits.

You might argue I'm being pessimistic, but I'm honestly being realistic. I could be wrong though.

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04-06-2020, 08:06 AM

One would hope some lessons were learned. I think the vast majority of people will go back to work and won't have much time to think about anything else, simply because that's how the majority of people live. There's no time for introspection or grieving, the altar of money doesn't like to wait, especially when it's in dire straits.

You might argue I'm being pessimistic, but I'm honestly being realistic. I could be wrong though.

That's how we used to live.

True, or, not we've now been taught, have seen & been presented & conditioned by MSM + our own facts a different way to live. One we never have had to live by, or, even consider.

We're standing outside a Wal-Mart waiting for someone to leave so we can take their place among the allowed 5 persons per 1k square foot of that store.

& anybody worth their salt ain't goin' nowhere near (work) when they're at home making very close to 1k a week (including unemployment + the $600 per week stipend). I don't blame 'em. Why risk it? Because the old man is urging us?

"No. I'll go back to work not when the unemployment runs out, but, when that $600 a week runs out +++ when I've run out of the boodle I have been painstakingly able to squirrel away from that unemployment/stipend in the interim." AND THAT WILL BE KEY.

Man in the house: $900.00/week
Woman in the house: $900.00/week

TV in the house.
Cable in the house.
Bed in the house.

RandomGuy

04-06-2020, 02:42 PM

That's not true. Just because he told that woman where to jump?

It'll be a skewed campaign whereas perhaps Bloomberg just hermatizes himself leaving Biden strapped.

All the zest is out of the electorate. It's a drudgery now. Low turnout will help the old man, my old man, not yours.

I'll take a wild guess on the query:::Nixon?

November is shaping up to be record turnout, just like 2018, and likely more so.

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04-06-2020, 02:55 PM

November is shaping up to be record turnout, just like 2018, and likely more so.

So, what's the answer to your query, RG?

RandomGuy

04-06-2020, 02:56 PM

I can't see (5 months) El. I could just be scared, but, by the time this is over the entire country is going to be in a state of shock. Real shock, not the usual nonsense after a regular scare where we guffaw, pick up the few pieces that have fallen and carry on as if nothing happened.

Something has happened.

Trump was doing poorly before bungling the response to this.

Bungled response + downturn in economy = Once again, a Democrat has to clean up Republican mess.

Sokay. Fun will see who Biden picks as VP. That will be the person running in 2024 at the top of the ticket for reelection.

RandomGuy

04-06-2020, 02:56 PM

So, what's the answer to your query, RG?

?? Not sure of what you are refererring.

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04-06-2020, 02:58 PM

?? Not sure of what you are refererring.

This question:::

[[[Name the last two term president that won their second term by a larger margin of victory than their first. I'll wait.]]]

I guessed Nixon.

Nbadan

04-06-2020, 11:47 PM

Even if the Coronavirus is a little factor in the 2020 election, which I have no reason to believe it will, what will be a big factor is the millions of people out of a job with no health insurance and a Administration dead set on eliminating the ACA with nothing but a Trump pipe dream....remember, the Dems swept 2018 because of healthcare....no reason to believe that with more people out of a job, and without healthcare this won't be the most important issue in Nov.

Millennial_Messiah

04-07-2020, 12:47 AM

This question:::

[[[Name the last two term president that won their second term by a larger margin of victory than their first. I'll wait.]]]

I guessed Nixon.
Bush in '04
Reagan in '84 (greatest landslide in history)

RandomGuy

04-07-2020, 07:26 AM

This question:::

[[[Name the last two term president that won their second term by a larger margin of victory than their first. I'll wait.]]]

I guessed Nixon.

Interesting. I didn't know the answer. I was under the impression that 2nd terms generally are won by fewer votes the second time around.

The answer is: almost all of them.

2nd terms are generally won by a larger margin of victory than the first time around.

boutons_deux

04-07-2020, 07:32 AM

Interesting. I didn't know the answer. I was under the impression that 2nd terms generally are won by fewer votes the second time around.

The answer is: almost all of them.

2nd terms are generally won by a larger margin of victory than the first time around.

dubya/shrub won 2nd term with the smallest margin, so "war president" and Medicare Advantage corporate socialism probably saved his ignorant butt. rightwing character assassination/slander of Kerry helped

RandomGuy

04-07-2020, 07:45 AM

Bush in '04
Reagan in '84 (greatest landslide in history)

You forgot Clinton.

Reagan's victory was not the "greatest".

Hard to beat Washington's margin. or, for that matter, 1936. FDR's reward for being one of the other times that a Democrat had to clean up Republican bungling of government.

Millennial_Messiah

04-07-2020, 10:23 AM

You forgot Clinton.

Reagan's victory was not the "greatest".

Hard to beat Washington's margin. or, for that matter, 1936. FDR's reward for being one of the other times that a Democrat had to clean up Republican bungling of government.
FDR didn't clean it up. Tokyo throwing a rock at the big ol' wasp nest did, however.

pgardn

04-07-2020, 11:02 AM

FDR didn't clean it up. Tokyo throwing a rock at the big ol' wasp nest did, however.

FDR was the man responsible for so many government projects to put people to work BEFORE the war. The precursor to many government run agencies taking care of people defying “capitalism solves all”.

Red team hates it, blue team adores it.

RandomGuy

04-07-2020, 01:46 PM

FDR didn't clean it up. Tokyo throwing a rock at the big ol' wasp nest did, however.

Seems to me like FDR's re-election results speak for themselves as to who the public thought was fixing problems. Amateur hour historical economics aside. FDR took the better part of a decade to fix the problems that caused the First Great Depression.

Millennial_Messiah

04-07-2020, 02:21 PM

Seems to me like FDR's re-election results speak for themselves as to who the public thought was fixing problems. Amateur hour historical economics aside. FDR took the better part of a decade to fix the problems that caused the First Great Depression.

FDR was as close to a dictator/king as the USA has ever had. An incestual troglodyte and one of the worst presidents in our history. You're accurate on one thing: he took over a decade to "fix" the Great Depression. The "New Deal" of stimulus packages proved that government spending alone couldn't save the economy, but what ultimately did was supply-side economics caused by the demand filled by the rising threat of Germany and the imminent threat to homeland security from Japan.

He kept winning re-election, like modern day Putin, because he had little/no resistance. The voting bloc was almost entirely Democrat since the conservative religious Southerners were still solid Democrat voters (Dixiecrats, today's ruby red GOP voters) and FDR had long since won over the progressive and minority voters away from the Republican party with his rhetoric and New Deal policies. Therefore, almost everyone was Democratic in the 1930s (both liberal and conservative), except for some moderate families in the Western US and a few Wall Street types did yet vote Republican, but those voting blocs are and were extremely tiny.

SnakeBoy

04-07-2020, 02:36 PM

This question:::

[[[Name the last two term president that won their second term by a larger margin of victory than their first. I'll wait.]]]

I guessed Nixon.

Dubya

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04-07-2020, 02:41 PM

FDR was as close to a dictator/king as the USA has ever had. An incestual troglodyte and one of the worst presidents in our history. You're accurate on one thing: he took over a decade to "fix" the Great Depression. The "New Deal" of stimulus packages proved that government spending alone couldn't save the economy, but what ultimately did was supply-side economics caused by the demand filled by the rising threat of Germany and the imminent threat to homeland security from Japan.

He kept winning re-election, like modern day Putin, because he had little/no resistance. The voting bloc was almost entirely Democrat since the conservative religious Southerners were still solid Democrat voters (Dixiecrats, today's ruby red GOP voters) and FDR had long since won over the progressive and minority voters away from the Republican party with his rhetoric and New Deal policies. Therefore, almost everyone was Democratic in the 1930s (both liberal and conservative), except for some moderate families in the Western US and a few Wall Street types did yet vote Republican, but those voting blocs are and were extremely tiny.

But, MM, you forget how FDR commanded former "Col. Hogan" from "Hogan's Heroes" to report to him...

3 weeks later - Washington, D.C.

"General Hogan, if you will follow me, sir."

A couple hallways, a couple turns and they arrived. "Go right in, sir, he's waiting for you."

"Mr. President." General Hogan came to attention, cocked his arm and held his salute.

"Ah, Robert, please forgive me for not rising, it's this infernal chair. Come, son, come close and tell me everything."

---The End---

Millennial_Messiah

04-07-2020, 03:17 PM

Dubya

definitely not Obummer, who in '12 lost 2 states + 2 additional electoral votes that he won in '08. Barely winning by a hair in Florida and Ohio. And that was vs. a complete loser in Mitt the Twit.

RandomGuy

04-09-2020, 06:56 AM

what ultimately [fixed the great depression] was supply-side economics caused by the demand .

:rollin :lmao :rollin :lmao :rollin :lmao

:clap That was a truly bozzword-y hash of thinly understood terms regurgitated by a truly mediocre mind.

Supply-side economic theory has been pretty much definitively debunked in study after study, were you intelligent or educated enough to evaluate them with any degree of competence.

What's funny is that you add in "government spending alone couldn't save the economy" then allude to "the rising threat of Germany and the imminent threat to homeland security from Japan."

Tell me, how much did the government borrow and spend to meet this threat? Asking for a friend.

Your problem in making your case is that you do not understand economics. You think you do, but, in reality, you do not. Libertarians, if they understood free-markets, would not be libertarians. It is what makes them irrational.

Spurtacular

04-09-2020, 07:19 AM

:rollin :lmao :rollin :lmao :rollin :lmao

:clap That was a truly bozzword-y hash of thinly understood terms regurgitated by a truly mediocre mind.

Supply-side economic theory has been pretty much definitively debunked in study after study, were you intelligent or educated enough to evaluate them with any degree of competence.

What's funny is that you add in "government spending alone couldn't save the economy" then allude to "the rising threat of Germany and the imminent threat to homeland security from Japan."

Tell me, how much did the government borrow and spend to meet this threat? Asking for a friend.

Your problem in making your case is that you do not understand economics. You think you do, but, in reality, you do not. Libertarians, if they understood free-markets, would not be libertarians. It is what makes them irrational.

:lol Meltdown

RandomGuy

04-13-2020, 03:16 PM

[smiley][derision]

[boredom]

Spurs Homer

04-13-2020, 10:24 PM

Wisconsin pandemic election;

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/13/wisconsin-coronavirus-election-results-lawsuits-184666

RandomGuy

04-14-2020, 01:22 AM

Wisconsin pandemic election;

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/13/wisconsin-coronavirus-election-results-lawsuits-184666

Saw that.

Even with the trippy virus that can't be good for the Republicans. Imagine what happens if their old white-ass base stays home.

Hard to know if it is meaningful.

Probably more meaningful then the dinky race that TSA got red-assed for a few pages back. That was funny.

RandomGuy

04-14-2020, 01:26 AM

:lol Meltdown

What really gave me an actual meltdown was when he wished my family would get murdered. Happy to cop to that.

And happy to shred his fucking stupid ass any time he ventures to say stupid shit like "supply-side ... and "demand" in the same sentence like he knows what the fuck he is talking about.

Spurs Homer

04-14-2020, 08:04 AM

Saw that.

Even with the trippy virus that can't be good for the Republicans. Imagine what happens if their old white-ass base stays home.

Hard to know if it is meaningful.

Probably more meaningful then the dinky race that TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640)got red-assed for a few pages back. That was funny.

trump won (stole) wi in 2016

trump endorsed the scum repuke for WI SC

voters gave trump the middle finger

and finally

voters gave biden a yuuge victory

not a good day for the cult in WI

boutons_deux

04-14-2020, 09:04 AM

Red team hates it, blue team adores it.

oligarchy STILL trying to reverse all the social progress made under FDR, like kill SS so retirement would go exclusively to predatory, fee-sucking, corrupt BigFinance.

some Repugs have said child labor laws and Fed min wage should be repealed.

unions should be make illegal, if they can't kill them

People simply do not realize how badly the oligarchy has fucked America and has lots more plans to fuck it harder and deeper.

Spurtacular

04-14-2020, 11:23 AM

What really gave me an actual meltdown was when he wished my family would get murdered. Happy to cop to that.

And happy to shred his fucking stupid ass any time he ventures to say stupid shit like "supply-side ... and "demand" in the same sentence like he knows what the fuck he is talking about.

https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/4d/4dbdf9f1d71967272e3e0770db8b0bd2.jpeg

RandomGuy

04-14-2020, 01:27 PM

https://www.memesmonkey.com/images/memesmonkey/4d/4dbdf9f1d71967272e3e0770db8b0bd2.jpeg

I hope if Bernie wins and enacts the Merkel "let them all in" policy, a pack of Muslim animal goons invade your home and murder your family when you're out walking your dog.

Seems pretty clear.

Not exaggerating at all.

"I hope... Muslim animal goons... murder your family"

You.
Fucking.
Idiot.

That is the level you and your side have sunk to. Whatever my faults, this gives me the moral high ground every time. Suck it.

Spurtacular

04-14-2020, 01:37 PM

Seems pretty clear.

Not exaggerating at all.

"I hope... Muslim animal goons... murder your family"

You.
Fucking.
Idiot.

That is the level you and your side have sunk to. Whatever my faults, this gives me the moral high ground every time. Suck it.

What are you crying about?

RandomGuy

04-14-2020, 01:56 PM

What are you crying about?

Tried to explain it to you using small words. Guess it was too much for you. Not going to bother with more effort.

Keep saying cuck man. You know you want to...

Spurtacular

04-14-2020, 02:31 PM

Tried to explain it to you using small words. Guess it was too much for you. Not going to bother with more effort.

Keep saying cuck man. You know you want to...

You rambled and gave unattributed quotes.

RandomGuy

04-14-2020, 08:23 PM

You rambled and gave unattributed quotes.

Keep saying cuck. I did not give you permission to stop.

Spurtacular

04-14-2020, 08:50 PM

Keep saying cuck. I did not give you permission to stop.

:lol BetaGuy trying to act big.

RandomGuy

04-15-2020, 11:58 AM

:lol BetaGuy trying to act big.

Oooh a new one to laugh at. Keep saying that too. It is funny. :lol

Spurtacular

04-15-2020, 12:03 PM

Oooh a new one to laugh at. Keep saying that too. It is funny. :lol

You been crying circles around the fact that you said Trump was trying to murder your family. Explain already.

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 09:15 AM

You been crying circles around the fact that you said Trump was trying to murder your family. Explain already.

(facepalm) Go back and re-read. I can't understand things for you. And I am not going to re-re-explain it here.

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 09:17 AM

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1232512668533239808

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/Arizona.html#!

So Arizona is clearly swinging Biden.

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 09:26 AM

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1232512668533239808

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/fl/florida_trump_vs_biden-6841.html#polls

Florida tilting Biden. Once the virus finishes off a good chunk of the old white vote, and keeps a lot of them home on election day, that will balance out the ratfucking. Close tho'.

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 09:33 AM

https://twitter.com/GOPChairwoman/status/1232512668533239808

Texas by 2%

Within the range that a surge in Democratic turnout can flip. Democratic party is already working around virus for registration, and is building on the machinery and experience gained in 2018. Cornyn is probably safe, given he is less hated than Rafael.

If the Republican government here botches their response, as it is looking likely, that is also a big plus for us. Low levels of testing, a feeble state response, and a governor seeming to wanting to open up before testing available, will mean a nasty spike in deaths, and that will have consequences.

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04-17-2020, 09:39 AM

Texas by 2%

Within the range that a surge in Democratic turnout can flip. Democratic party is already working around virus for registration, and is building on the machinery and experience gained in 2018. Cornyn is probably safe, given he is less hated than Rafael.

If the Republican government here botches their response, as it is looking likely, that is also a big plus for us. Low levels of testing, a feeble state response, and a governor seeming to wanting to open up before testing available, will mean a nasty spike in deaths, and that will have consequences.

That's rich. They stormed the polls in the midst of 19 just to make damn sure Sander's heart beat had stopped.

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 09:48 AM

That's rich. They stormed the polls in the midst of 19 just to make damn sure Sander's heart beat had stopped.

2% is the average of polls, one or two showing Biden winning state. Every election for the last decade has seen Republican margin of victory fading, as pretty much every expert studying demographics has predicted. The kids in my wifes classes are MAD, and they will be eligible to vote in the fall. Most of them won't, but the ones that do will voting for Democrats up and down the ticket. Our party's outreach to these voters is one of our priorities.

Texas will still likely go to Trump. Just like Hillary was likely to win the presidency in 2016.

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04-17-2020, 09:56 AM

2% is the average of polls, one or two showing Biden winning state. Every election for the last decade has seen Republican margin of victory fading, as pretty much every expert studying demographics has predicted. The kids in my wifes classes are MAD, and they will be eligible to vote in the fall. Most of them won't, but the ones that do will voting for Democrats up and down the ticket. Our party's outreach to these voters is one of our priorities.

Texas will still likely go to Trump. Just like Hillary was likely to win the presidency in 2016.

They're always mad. Your people are always mad. You know no other state.

Spurtacular

04-17-2020, 09:59 AM

(facepalm) Go back and re-read. I can't understand things for you. And I am not going to re-re-explain it here.

:cry It was all in the ramblings :cry

Give me the nut graf. How did Trump try to murder your family?

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 10:06 AM

They're always mad. Your people are always mad. You know no other state.

:lol Sure, we are mad. Your right-wing propaganda machine though, pushes mad and outrage every minute of every day. Trump Death Cult members are so mad they are braving a deadly pandemic and dismissing the danger in order to rationalize that.

OHIO TRUMP ZOMBIES:

https://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/Virus_Outbreak_Protests_49387-1.jpg?w=863

MICHIGAN IDIOTS:

https://www.gannett-cdn.com/presto/2020/04/15/PDTF/0dc40f05-56d6-40a2-af97-97efbcc53526-ProtestCorona_041520_09_mw.jpg

Pelosi is awesome

AOC is smart.

(waits for argle bargle)

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 10:07 AM

:cry It was all in the ramblings :cry

Give me the nut graf. How did Trump try to murder your family?

:lmao too lazy to scroll up. That is a new one. :rollin

Spurtacular

04-17-2020, 10:15 AM

:lmao too lazy to scroll up. That is a new one. :rollin

So, you pretending a quote exists :tu

"I hope... Muslim animal goons... murder your family"

:rollin

Spurtacular

04-17-2020, 10:17 AM

You forgot Clinton.

Reagan's victory was not the "greatest".

Hard to beat Washington's margin. or, for that matter, 1936. FDR's reward for being one of the other times that a Democrat had to clean up Republican bungling of government.

:lol Giving a decade of GREAT DEPRESSION and not keeping the world out of the MOST CALAMITOUS WAR IN HISTORY is cleaning up. :lol

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04-17-2020, 10:19 AM

:lol Sure, we are mad. Your right-wing propaganda machine though, pushes mad and outrage every minute of every day. Trump Death Cult members are so mad they are braving a deadly pandemic and dismissing the danger in order to rationalize that.

OHIO TRUMP ZOMBIES:

MICHIGAN IDIOTS:

You got no room. Your charged to the polls to make certain Sanders wouldn't win. Sure, you had MSM providing cover but you still killed a lot of Americans by doing that.

ShotThroughTheHeart

04-17-2020, 10:22 AM

You got no room. Your charged to the polls to make certain Sanders wouldn't win. Sure, you had MSM providing cover but you still killed a lot of Americans by doing that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9swDIB-d1w

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 11:42 AM

So, you pretending a quote exists :tu

"I hope... Muslim animal goons... murder your family"

:rollin

Man, you are digging your hole deeper. It's like you are too dumb to know how dumb you are. Keep digging. It is hilarious.

Spurtacular

04-17-2020, 11:45 AM

Man, you are digging your hole deeper. It's like you are too dumb to know how dumb you are. Keep digging. It is hilarious.

BlakeGuy meanderings.

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 11:50 AM

So, you pretending a quote exists :tu

"I hope... Muslim animal goons... murder your family"

:rollin

But I hope if Bernie wins and enacts the Merkel "let them all in" policy, a pack of Muslim animal goons invade your home and murder your family when you're out walking your dog. Maybe then you'll be singing a different tune.

:lmao :rollin :lmao :rollin

Derp can't read.

Here you go, moron:

WHAT IS THE ELLIPSIS USED FOR?

Example of Using an Ellipsis to Indicate an Omission

Original quote

All the world is made of faith, and trust, and pixie dust.
― J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan

Quote with ellipsis

Chicago Style

All the world is made of faith . . . and pixie dust.
― J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan

AP Style

All the world is made of faith … and pixie dust.
― J.M. Barrie, Peter Pan

Be careful not to change the meaning of the sentence!

https://turnerproofreading.com/ellipsis-chicago-vs-ap-style/

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 11:53 AM

Jesus, fucking H. Christ on a stick. I had to fucking draw you a picture. In crayon.

Chucho you have to see this to believe this. go back a couple of pages. It is golden.

Spurtacular

04-17-2020, 12:47 PM

:lmao :rollin :lmao :rollin

Derp can't read.

Here you go, moron:

WHAT IS THE ELLIPSIS USED FOR?

https://turnerproofreading.com/ellipsis-chicago-vs-ap-style/

Thought you were ranting about Trump like usual. I don't care what crazy sh** Andy says.

RandomGuy

04-17-2020, 01:03 PM

Thought you were ranting about Trump like usual. I don't care what crazy sh** Andy says.

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what ultimately [fixed the great depression] was supply-side economics caused by the demand .

[that is fucking stupid]

:lol Meltdown

What really gave me an actual meltdown was when he wished my family would get murdered. Happy to cop to that.

And happy to shred his fucking stupid ass any time he ventures to say stupid shit like "supply-side ... and "demand" in the same sentence like he knows what the fuck he is talking about.

[back and forth]

You been crying circles around the fact that you said Trump was trying to murder your family. Explain already.

(facepalm) Go back and re-read. I can't understand things for you. And I am not going to re-re-explain it here.

When I tell you to go back and read, moron, go back and read, you lazy shit.

If you weren't so fucking lazy, you wouldn't have gotten red-assed. Own it.

Chucho

04-20-2020, 10:27 AM

LOL, how many times does derp get shit on per day? Hell, even if Chump stopped playing grab-ass with him all day long, derp would stilll be getting shit all over, what, at least a dozen times a day?

RandomGuy

04-23-2020, 10:23 AM

So Trump has started picking fights with swing-state governors with better approval ratings than he has. A losing battle from the start.

Both in terms of actually getting his way, which he won't:

Coronavirus Latest: Trump's Fight With Governors Is One He Can't Win
https://www.npr.org/2020/04/20/837737368/trump-often-picks-fights-with-governors-but-americans-like-them-more

But as some part of the strategy to deflect blame pre-emptively

Trump Often Picks Fights With Governors, But Americans Like Them More
https://www.wgbh.org/news/national-news/2020/04/20/trump-often-picks-fights-with-governors-but-americans-like-them-more

The face of Trump supporters will be plastered all over local ads and that will not play well in swing states after tens of thousands more people die.

https://gotechdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/1587171059_Covid-19-coronavirus-reaction-US-citizens-protest-against-blockade-in.jpg

FWIW:

The woman on the left has been identified as a Republican candidate for state representative, if memory serves.

TSA

04-23-2020, 08:40 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepVernonJones/status/1253398909117960193

RandomGuy

04-28-2020, 08:17 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepVernonJones/status/1253398909117960193

Maybe if we inject disinfectants that will cure this disease.

:lmao

TSA

05-13-2020, 01:27 AM

Two Special Elections On Tuesday Could Hint At Another Blue Wave In 2020

On Tuesday, we’ll get a taste of whether Democrats’ electoral advantage on paper will hold up in practice, as California and Wisconsin hold special elections for two vacant congressional seats. The main event is in the California 25th Congressional District, a bellwether seat in the north Los Angeles suburbs, where both parties see a chance to add to their ranks in the House. But if Democrats are also competitive in the quickly reddening, rural Wisconsin 7th Congressional District, it could signal another blue wave in the fall.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/two-special-elections-on-tuesday-could-hint-at-another-blue-wave-in-2020/amp/?ex_cid=538email&__twitter_impression=true

Reck

05-13-2020, 01:48 AM

Dems are retards. Made Katie resign over being a lesbian. Lol

No matter. Try again in 6 months. Special elections aren’t our thing.

ElNono

05-13-2020, 03:16 AM

Dems are retards. Made Katie resign over being a lesbian. Lol

No matter. Try again in 6 months. Special elections aren’t our thing.

Democrats didn't even care to mail in their ballots... it's definitely problematic considering Biden milquetoast personality really doesn't get anyone excited

RandomGuy

05-13-2020, 10:17 AM

TSA

05-13-2020, 10:07 PM

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

8 Points= wave election.

That is one of the strongest indicators of where the electorate is.

Injecting bleach to protect yourself yet?

https://mobile.twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1260590950289727490

Reck

05-13-2020, 10:16 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1260590950289727490

Sure thing, til foil.

ChumpDumper

05-13-2020, 10:24 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1260590950289727490If fifteen states make an electoral block I guess this means something.

TSA

05-13-2020, 10:28 PM

Sure thing, til foil.
CNN poll bad now?

Reck

05-13-2020, 10:29 PM

1,001 registered voters and 583 voters in battleground states, defined as the 15 states decided by 8 points or less in 2016

Results for the full sample have a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.7 percentage points.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/13/politics/cnn-poll-2020/index.html

https://theadbowlng.files.wordpress.com/2016/04/gif-bored-dr-evil-meh-right-sarcastic-skeptical-whatever-yea-right-yeah-yeah-right-gif.gif

Reck

05-13-2020, 10:30 PM

CNN poll bad now?

Nope. Just shitty sampling size that is definitely an outlier.

DMC

05-13-2020, 10:31 PM

Nope. Just shitty sampling size that is definitely an outlier.

aka you disagreed with it because it doesn't fit your worldview.

Reck

05-13-2020, 10:34 PM

aka you disagreed with it because it doesn't fit your worldview.

I do.

And so does every other individual polls. Backed by the overall aggregate RCP has.

RandomGuy

05-14-2020, 11:00 AM

https://mobile.twitter.com/PpollingNumbers/status/1260590950289727490

Not a generic ballot poll.

Also drawn over all battleground states as a whole. They don't vote as a block, so it can be generally indicative of the average, but electoral college is not allocated on that average.

Clutch at some more straws. It's funny watching you try. It's almost as if you suck at critical thinking.

CosmicCowboy

05-14-2020, 11:08 AM

Dems are retards. Made Katie resign over being a lesbian. Lol

No matter. Try again in 6 months. Special elections aren’t our thing.

It wasn't because Katie was a snuff queen. It was because it was with a subordinate. That knife cuts both ways.

RandomGuy

05-14-2020, 11:09 AM

I wasn't because Katie was a snuff queen. It was because it was with a subordinate. That knife cuts both ways.

You seem to have left out the possibility that it was a mix of both. How have you excluded that possiblity?

CosmicCowboy

05-14-2020, 11:19 AM

You seem to have left out the possibility that it was a mix of both. How have you excluded that possiblity?

Why would democrats cut her just because she swung both ways? There are currently 10 other gay members of the house and senate that weren't forced to resign.

RandomGuy

05-14-2020, 11:31 AM

Why would democrats cut her just because she swung both ways? There are currently 10 other gay members of the house and senate that weren't forced to resign.

Only really heard about this tangentially here. Can't really speak meaningfully from my own understanding. Centrist worry too much about what conservatives think, IMO, and that is about as far as I care to get into it. Tempest in a teacup.

RandomGuy

05-14-2020, 11:34 AM

For some seniors, virus is shifting their views of Trump

Tommye and Rody Johnson have been registered Republicans for almost seven decades. So while the couple from Vero Beach, Florida, had some reservations about then-candidate Donald Trump in 2016, they just couldn’t imagine voting for Hillary Clinton.

Now, after nearly four years of President Trump’s tweets, the impeachment scandal, and especially, what they see as his disastrous handling of the COVID-19 pandemic, they can’t imagine voting for him again.

They’re not the only ones. According to a recent Morning Consult poll, Mr. Trump’s approval rating among voters over the age of 65 dropped 20 points between March and the end of April, making seniors more critical of the president’s performance than any other age group aside from 18- to 29-year-olds. Much of that decline seems directly related to the virus, which so far has posed a far more serious health threat to older people.

Editor’s note: As a public service, all our coronavirus coverage is free. No paywall.

As the debate over lifting lockdowns has intensified, the president’s eagerness to get the economy moving again seems to have put him at odds with many older voters – who, as retirees without children at home, may not be as focused on reopening schools or local businesses. In the same Morning Consult poll, by a nearly 6-to-1 margin, seniors said the government should prioritize halting the spread of the virus over focusing on the economy. Some older adults say that Mr. Trump – himself a septuagenarian, as is presumptive Democratic nominee Joe Biden – doesn’t seem to understand how vulnerable and undervalued this crisis has made them feel.

...

Ms. Penk, like the Johnsons, voted for Mr. Trump last time around, but is now part of a “Republicans for Biden” Facebook group. She worries about her husband’s health, and says Mr. Trump’s handling of the pandemic cemented her decision to vote a “straight blue” ticket in November.
https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2020/0512/For-some-seniors-virus-is-shifting-their-views-of-Trump

Be interesting to see how this holds up.

I doubt the injecting bleach suggestion, and his statements about gutting Social Security will help. He is pissing on the third rail. :lol

RandomGuy

05-17-2020, 04:09 PM

Democrats didn't even care to mail in their ballots... it's definitely problematic considering Biden milquetoast personality really doesn't get anyone excited

Oh, we are plenty excited to vote against Trump. Ginsberg just has to last another few months.

ElNono

05-17-2020, 04:24 PM

Oh, we are plenty excited to vote against Trump. Ginsberg just has to last another few months.

I'm sure you are. We'll see when the election comes around.

Reck

05-17-2020, 04:30 PM

I'm sure you are. We'll see when the election comes around.

Team Trump is running scared. How you know?

Just look at what they're going with. Biden is a pedo, etc.

Desperation tactics from a team that managed to get impeached not because of Russia but because of a walking corpse. Biden can win this from his basement. I just cringe every time he gets on TV.

ElNono

05-17-2020, 04:36 PM

Team Trump is running scared. How you know?

Just look at what they're going with. Biden is a pedo, etc.

Desperation tactics from a team that managed to get impeached not because of Russia but because of a walking corpse. Biden can win this from his basement. I just cringe every time he gets on TV.

I don't care what Team Trump is going with. The issue here is not whether people are going to vote for Joe, is if enough people that will vote for him are going to show up and actually vote, especially in swing States.

Getting young kids to come out and vote has been a problem, you can ask Bernie about that. Again, this would be much easier if the candidate wouldn't be a fossilized mummy.

RandomGuy

05-18-2020, 04:26 PM

I don't care what Team Trump is going with. The issue here is not whether people are going to vote for Joe, is if enough people that will vote for him are going to show up and actually vote, especially in swing States.

Getting young kids to come out and vote has been a problem, you can ask Bernie about that. Again, this would be much easier if the candidate wouldn't be a fossilized mummy.

Eyup. Biden was the safe supposedly mainstream appeal choice.

Dems just need to nut up and put out an actual progressive candidate for once, and step letting the right-wing drive the conversation, IMO.

Reck

06-03-2020, 08:03 PM

1268327972718759937
Will Hunting

We're very close to just calling this one a loss cause for republicans.

Will Hunting

06-03-2020, 08:19 PM

1268327972718759937
Will Hunting (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=17032)

We're very close to just calling this one a loss cause for republicans.
Maybe I’m missing something but if Kelly is winning by 13 points (which multiple polls have now shown) in AZ then Biden has got to have at least an 8 point lead over Trump in the state....There can’t be that many Trump/Kelly supporters out there, right?

Keep in mind Sinema was up big on McSally around this time 2 years ago and the lead narrowed a lot by election time, but that’s less likely this time around when McSally is the incumbent and is a known quantity imo.

Gideon is also up 8 points on Collins in Maine, and there are a lot more races up for grabs than Republicans realize. Montana is a toss up with Bullock in the race, and Georgia/Kentucky/South Carolina are all in the margin of error. Even Joni Ernst’s approval rating in Iowa has started to dip.

Time for Mike Bloomer to start carpet bombing the key senate races with negative ads.

Reck

06-03-2020, 11:44 PM

1268371694579834881

Ominous sign.

RandomGuy

06-04-2020, 09:24 AM

Maybe I’m missing something but if Kelly is winning by 13 points (which multiple polls have now shown) in AZ then Biden has got to have at least an 8 point lead over Trump in the state....There can’t be that many Trump/Kelly supporters out there, right?

Keep in mind Sinema was up big on McSally around this time 2 years ago and the lead narrowed a lot by election time, but that’s less likely this time around when McSally is the incumbent and is a known quantity imo.

Gideon is also up 8 points on Collins in Maine, and there are a lot more races up for grabs than Republicans realize. Montana is a toss up with Bullock in the race, and Georgia/Kentucky/South Carolina are all in the margin of error. Even Joni Ernst’s approval rating in Iowa has started to dip.

Time for Mike Bloomer to start carpet bombing the key senate races with negative ads.

Gerrymandering protects the GOP in most years. This year... impeachment, COVID, riots, all around chaos, and who the fuck knows what Trump will fuck up next month. The rate we are going now, I expect first contact any time now.

fivethirtyeights generic ballot is a pretty good predictor of where the electorate generally is.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

It is about where it was before the 2018 blue wave.

Trump's overall approval spiked for the brief period of time where he acted like a grown up, and have fallen right back down to the basement it crawled out of.

The economy will not bounce back before November in any meaningful way, and that is the only leg that the former Republican party had to stand on.

There is even a shot at upsetting McConnel.
https://www.newsweek.com/what-polls-say-about-mitch-mcconnell-vs-amy-mcgrath-kentucky-senate-race-1500989

It seems reasonable to me that the past week or so has probably cemented any flagging support from various left-leaning groups for Biden.

boutons_deux

06-04-2020, 09:33 AM

Gerrymandering protects the GOP in most years. This year... impeachment, COVID, riots, all around chaos, and who the fuck knows what Trump will fuck up next month. The rate we are going now, I expect first contact any time now.

fivethirtyeights generic ballot is a pretty good predictor of where the electorate generally is.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

It is about where it was before the 2018 blue wave.

Trump's overall approval spiked for the brief period of time where he acted like a grown up, and have fallen right back down to the basement it crawled out of.

The economy will not bounce back before November in any meaningful way, and that is the only leg that the former Republican party had to stand on.

There is even a shot at upsetting McConnel.
https://www.newsweek.com/what-polls-say-about-mitch-mcconnell-vs-amy-mcgrath-kentucky-senate-race-1500989

It seems reasonable to me that the past week or so has probably cemented any flagging support from various left-leaning groups for Biden.

200K dead by 3 Nov, 30M+ unemployed, nearly totally Trash/Repug fault

R0 > 1 in many re-opening red/Confederate states, so expect plenty of continued, steady-state infections and deaths For Business, if not large second waves.

near equatorial countries getting hit hard, so "heat in April will make it go from 15 to zero" not panning out

rmt

06-04-2020, 10:49 AM

Gerrymandering protects the GOP in most years. This year... impeachment, COVID, riots, all around chaos, and who the fuck knows what Trump will fuck up next month. The rate we are going now, I expect first contact any time now.

fivethirtyeights generic ballot is a pretty good predictor of where the electorate generally is.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-generic-ballot-polls/?ex_cid=rrpromo

It is about where it was before the 2018 blue wave.

Trump's overall approval spiked for the brief period of time where he acted like a grown up, and have fallen right back down to the basement it crawled out of.

The economy will not bounce back before November in any meaningful way, and that is the only leg that the former Republican party had to stand on.

There is even a shot at upsetting McConnel.
https://www.newsweek.com/what-polls-say-about-mitch-mcconnell-vs-amy-mcgrath-kentucky-senate-race-1500989

It seems reasonable to me that the past week or so has probably cemented any flagging support from various left-leaning groups for Biden.

November is a LOOOOOOOONG time from now. Did you think that in the first few days of JUNE, the Dow would be over 26K? Did you think that (in the first days of June) there would be CROWDS of people in the streets all over the US, and NO ONE is hyperventilating about social distancing (when it suits their agenda - chaos)?

Traffic is almost back to normal now - people are out and about, and the restaurants are not up to speed. Yesterday, my local Pollo Tropical closed at 7pm (rush dinner hour) from selling out all their chicken earlier.

baseline bum

06-04-2020, 10:52 AM

November is a LOOOOOOOONG time from now. Did you think that in the first few days of JUNE, the Dow would be over 26K? Did you think that (in the first days of June) there would be CROWDS of people in the streets all over the US, and NO ONE is hyperventilating about social distancing (when it suits their agenda - chaos)?

Traffic is almost back to normal now - people are out and about, and the restaurants are not up to speed. Yesterday, my local Pollo Tropical closed at 7pm (rush dinner hour) from selling out all their chicken earlier.

And you're an immigrant from China who has never been to China.

Leetonidas

06-04-2020, 11:12 AM

Trump gonna win because Pollo Loco is open and traffic jams have returned :lmao

rmt

06-04-2020, 11:39 AM

Trump gonna win because Pollo Loco is open and traffic jams have returned :lmao

Did I say Trump is going to win? I said Nov is a long time from now - a lot of changes in the meantime. We shall see, and polls in June are meaningless.

RandomGuy

06-04-2020, 01:06 PM

November is a LOOOOOOOONG time from now. Did you think that in the first few days of JUNE, the Dow would be over 26K? Did you think that (in the first days of June) there would be CROWDS of people in the streets all over the US, and NO ONE is hyperventilating about social distancing (when it suits their agenda - chaos)?

Traffic is almost back to normal now - people are out and about, and the restaurants are not up to speed. Yesterday, my local Pollo Tropical closed at 7pm (rush dinner hour) from selling out all their chicken earlier.

Data for the generic ballot is highly predictive, even this far out.

We are going to take a hit no matter how much you wishcast otherwise. How much remains to be seen, but it will not the rosy shit the con man you fascists worship is going to peddle.

boutons_deux

06-04-2020, 01:16 PM

The lady has a serious point.

"unthinkable" has been FACT for nearly 5 years

Pulitzer-winning historian issues dark warning about Trump’s GOP

Pulitzer Prize-winning historian Anne Applebaum ...

Trump and his Republican allies might complete their authoritarian transformation by stealing November’s election.

she warns that Republicans have been complicit in Trump gathering authoritarian powers over democratic institutions —

and they may soon finalize that process.

“Will they try to change the rules?” she added.

“Will they mess around with distance voting?

Will they, you know, exacerbate the problems caused by the pandemic to prevent people from voting?

That’s the thing that’s going to happen next.”

she had

little faith that Trump or the GOP were willing to risk losing the White House or their grip on the U.S. Senate.

“Do they value democracy in America :lol

enough to allow a real election to go through and to allow themselves to lose?” she said.

“I think there will be a few people that will break out of it.

I’m doubtful as to whether we can rely on the party leadership.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/pulitzer-winning-historian-issues-dark-warning-about-trumps-gop/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4714 (https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/pulitzer-winning-historian-issues-dark-warning-about-trumps-gop/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=4714)

“Do they value democracy in America enough ..."?

It has been FUCKING OBVIOUS that the oligarchy and Repugs have NO VALUES but wealth and power.