Horowitz has found Carter Page FISA Warrant was legal

[boutons_deux]

Why have Trash and his mafiya been "forgetting", lying, obstructing about their Russian contacts?

Why are Trash and mafiya LYING that it was Ukraine, not Pootin, who colluded with Trash?

Why is Trash blocking access to Mueller's evidence? Why is Trash blocking his mafiya from appearing Congress?

[TSA]

Thanks. How long have you been pimping this IG report? Is this a new report, or is this the one you went "all-in on" months and months ago?


And I think he somehow pulls re-election off, too.

I've been pimping much longer than months and months ago :lol Horowitz announced the investigation of March 2018.

[Chucho]

I've been pimping much longer than months and months ago :lol Horowitz announced the investigation of March 2018.

Fair to say this report is your final trump card, the "BOOM" card if you will?


Personally, I think it's Red Pill Mueller Report, honestly.

[Winehole23]

Fair to say this report is your final trump card, the "BOOM" card if you will?


Personally, I think it's Red Pill Mueller Report, honestly.Yep.

Similarly, the Joe Biden-Ukrainegate is a even flimsier iteration of the Russian collusion narrative.

[ChumpDumper]

The Pizza Crusader is afraid to talk to me anymore, but I'm just wondering what Team Dennison thinks the IG Report is going to say.

Yes they spied and they're all traitors and should be sent to GITMO!

The conspiracy theory that "western" (:lol TSA still can't name a country) intel infiltrated the Trump campaign through coffee boys makes no sense at all, and neither TSA nor any other Trumpette will ever spout more than innuendo about it.

[TSA]

Yep.

Similarly, the Joe Biden-Ukrainegate is a even flimsier iteration of the Russian collusion narrative.

Biden is on camera bragging about holding up 1 billion in aid unless the prosecutor was fired and his son sat on the board of a company being investigated. Meanwhile the Russian collusion narrative accused Trump and his campaign of all sorts of shit that Mueller debunked. Explain how the Biden-Ukraingate is somehow flimsier than the debunked Russian collusion narrative.

[boutons_deux]

Why have Trash and his mafiya been "forgetting", lying, obstructing about their Russian contacts?

Why are Trash and mafiya LYING that it was Ukraine, not Pootin, who colluded with Trash?

Why is Trash blocking access to Mueller's evidence? Why is Trash blocking his mafiya from appearing Congress?

[TSA]

Fair to say this report is your final trump card, the "BOOM" card if you will?


Personally, I think it's Red Pill Mueller Report, honestly.

The upcoming IG report and the Mueller report go hand in hand.

[ChumpDumper]

Biden is on camera bragging about holding up 1 billion in aid unless the prosecutor was fired and his son sat on the board of a company being investigated. Meanwhile the Russian collusion narrative accused Trump and his campaign of all sorts of shit that Mueller debunked. Explain how the Biden-Ukraingate is somehow flimsier than the debunked Russian collusion narrative.:lol that prosecutor wasn't doing shit about corruption. That's why everyone wanted him gone.

Why did Dennison do this all in secret with his personal lawyer?

If it's so legal and right and true and aboveboard, why all the secrecy then and why the stonewalling now? Just have evryone go under oath and explain how awesome they are.

[djohn2oo8]

Somebody said Durham was supposed to vindicate Barr

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously, all anyone needs to do is ask TSA or any other Trumpette their narrative of the whole Ukraine fiasco that explains the actions of Dennison and everyone else involved.

They will always run away.

Always.

[Chucho]

The upcoming IG report and the Mueller report go hand in hand.


As giant wastes of taxpayer monies and massive nothingburgers?

[boutons_deux]

why is Trash's personal lawyer pursuing corruption in Ukraine?

Isn't that the role of the FBI/CIA or State Dept?

[TSA]

As giant wastes of taxpayer monies and massive nothingburgers?

The Russian investigation/Muller investigation were a total waste of taxpayer dollars and massive nothingburgers. I don’t feel it’s a waste of taxpayer dollars to find out how our intelligence agencies got everything so completely wrong in said investigations.

[Chucho]

Yep.

Similarly, the Joe Biden-Ukrainegate is a even flimsier iteration of the Russian collusion narrative.

Well, objectively, explained like this:


Biden is on camera bragging about holding up 1 billion in aid unless the prosecutor was fired and his son sat on the board of a company being investigated.

...makes it sound like you're wrong. Is this description of Ol Joe doing Democrat things fair and accurate?

[ChumpDumper]

As giant wastes of taxpayer monies and massive nothingburgers?I don't think either are wastes of money. IG stuff is necessary oversight and the Mueller investigation was comparatively quick and cheap, especially after having more than half its cost recouped from Manafort.

[ChumpDumper]

The Russian investigation/Muller investigation were a total waste of taxpayer dollars and massive nothingburgers. I don’t feel it’s a waste of taxpayer dollars to find out how our intelligence agencies got everything so completely wrong in said investigations.The fact that TSA doesn't care about Russian interference in the 2016 election is basically all you need to know about him.

[Spurs Homer]

:lol that prosecutor wasn't doing shit about corruption. That's why everyone wanted him gone.

Why did Dennison do this all in secret with his personal lawyer?

If it's so legal and right and true and aboveboard, why all the secrecy then and why the stonewalling now? Just have evryone go under oath and explain how awesome they are.


and if their story is so perfect and legal

why did the traitor release the aid to ukraine?

why not continue to “pause” and root out “ukrainian corruption?

lol

[RandomGuy]

Biden is on camera bragging about holding up 1 billion in aid unless the prosecutor was fired and his son sat on the board of a company being investigated. Meanwhile the Russian collusion narrative accused Trump and his campaign of all sorts of shit that Mueller debunked. Explain how the Biden-Ukraingate is somehow flimsier than the debunked Russian collusion narrative.

Didn't read the report... but knows what it says. :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Well, objectively, explained like this:



...makes it sound like you're wrong. Is this description of Ol Joe doing Democrat things fair and accurate?What makes you say that's doing "Democrat things"?

Joe did this all in the open. Getting rid of this guy was US and international policy.

[RandomGuy]

his son sat on the board of a company being investigated.


When President Trump appointed his son-in-law Jared Kushner as a senior advisor, the appointment appeared to run afoul of the federal anti-nepotism statute. The statute specifies both that the prohibition against hiring family members applies to the president and that sons-in-law are family members.[i] Given the even closer proximity of their relationship, President Trump’s more recent hiring of his daughter Ivanka Trump seems to be an even more apparent violation of the statute. Overturning decades of precedent,[ii] however, the Department of Justice’s Office of Legal Counsel released an opinion shortly after Mr. Kushner’s appointment concluding that, based on another statute, the president is exempt from the anti-nepotism statute when hiring White House employees.[iii]

Whether or not this legal analysis holds up, President Trump’s hiring of his son-in-law and daughter undoubtedly violates the intended purpose of the anti-nepotism statute. Originally passed after President Kennedy appointed his brother as attorney general, the statute manifestly aims to prevent the president from appointing family members to government positions.[iv] Allowing nepotism – especially at the highest level of government – undermines the integrity of the Administration’s policy making.[v] President Trump’s appointments of his daughter and son-in-law make clear that he is not interested in selecting the most qualified candidates, and also may violate President Trump’s own Ethics Pledge.[vi] Neither Mr. Kushner nor Ms. Trump has any significant experience in policymaking.[vii] For example, Mr. Kushner has little experience in his expanding portfolio of assigned areas of responsibilities, which include: brokering Middle East peace, solving the opioid crisis, improving government through data and technology, reforming the criminal justice system, reforming veterans care, and managing diplomatic relations with Mexico and China.[viii] These appointments also are likely to inhibit the ability of other government employees to give candid opinions about policy proposals and personnel matters for fear of alienating the president’s family members.[ix]

Moreover, serving as a presidential advisor to a close family member raises a larger and more serious question about whether Ms. Trump’s and Mr. Kushner’s primary allegiance is to the Constitution or to President Trump personally and his brand. In a monarchy, these interests may be one and the same, but not necessarily in a democracy.

President Trump’s nepotism is especially concerning given this White House’s lax approach to ethical misconduct.[x] The White House counsel has already failed to take significant disciplinary action for clear ethics violations by Kellyanne Conway (violations that expressly benefitted Ms. Trump, though Ms. Trump was not implicated in them), and it is not known whether the White House Counsel made the appropriate referral to the Department of Justice’s Office of Public Integrity in another incident of apparent ethical misconduct. Based on this track record, it is even less likely the president’s own family members would be held accountable.

Mr. Kushner’s and Ms. Trump’s appointments as presidential advisors are all the more concerning because of the high risk that they carry their own significant conflicts of interest. Like the president, both have refused to put their assets in a blind trust to be sold – the most effective method to avoid conflicts of interest.[xi] Although they have taken some steps to reduce possible conflicts of interest,[xii] their many remaining assets place them in an ethical minefield. Mr. Kushner retains extensive real estate properties in multiple American cities, and has reported large lines of credit with several major banks for which he retains personal liability.[xiii] Ms. Trump retains sole ownership and veto power over her international fashion franchise, and recently received preliminary approval for several trademark applications in China.[xiv] She also has a large stake in the Trump International Hotel in Washington, D.C.[xv] In addition, the fact that they are married complicates the risks; under the applicable criminal statute they share any conflicts of interest that arise, even if that conflict arises from the other partner’s assets.[xvi] The fact that their financial interests overlap in some cases with those of the president further complicates the web of conflicts they may face since they may have duplicative and reinforcing incentives to advance those interests.

To avoid conflicts arising from these holdings, Mr. Kushner and Ms. Trump should recuse themselves from a wide variety of issues likely to be addressed by the Trump administration, including many related to the real estate industry, the financial services industry, taxes, trade matters involving China, and intellectual property.[xvii] However, using recusals to address their conflicts of interest does not account for their wide-ranging areas of responsibility, the fluid nature of the policy-making process, and the reality of situations where it is difficult to step out of the room when the president needs and is seeking advice from his most trusted advisors. They would also need to avoid anything to do with the Trump Washington, D.C. hotel, including even suggesting that an official event be held there.[xviii] If such conflicts of interest arise – which seems all but inevitable given their wide spheres of influence – and one or both of them fail to recuse themselves, they may subordinate America’s interests to their own and even open themselves to criminal prosecution.[xix]

The concern that the couple’s financial interests and their official positions would intersect has already materialized. On April 6, the same day that Ms. Trump and Mr. Kushner dined with Chinese President Xi Jinping and his wife at a dinner hosted by the president at Mar-a-Lago, the Chinese government provisionally approved three new trademarks for the Ivanka Trump brand.[xx] Having approved these trademarks, the Chinese seemingly sent a message that they are prepared to engage with Ms. Trump and Mr. Kushner by providing them with business favors. Ms. Trump’s acceptance of these benefits highlights the significant conflicts of interest she and her husband will face and her susceptibility to potential violations of the foreign emoluments clause of the U.S. Constitution.

Moreover, the public does not know the full extent of the possible conflicts of interest Mr. Kushner and Ms. Trump may face. Mr. Kushner has yet to disclose many of the investors and creditors for the family real estate holdings in which he reports a financial interest, which may well create further conflicts, and there is little transparency or limitation placed on the overseas activities of Ms. Trump’s businesses or on the benefits that may be conferred by foreign governments to enhance her brand marketability and consumer access while she serves as a federal official.[xxi]

In addition, Mr. Kushner’s failure to report foreign government contacts on his national security questionnaire, including his meetings with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak and with the head of a Russian state-owned bank during the transition period, raise separate national security and conflict of interest concerns.[xxii] Mr. Kushner’s attorney called the omissions “an error,” [xxiii] and informed the FBI that he will be providing supplemental information.[xxiv] Punishment for failing to disclose foreign contacts on a national security questionnaire or in an FBI interview can be severe.[xxv] Officials can lose access to intelligence or face criminal penalties for making a false statement.[xxvi] Several House members have also called for Mr. Kushner’s security clearance to be suspended.[xxvii]

https://www.citizensforethics.org/nepotism-conflicts-interest-jared-kushner-ivanka-trump/

Sure, let's investigate Biden's time at Burisma, too.

https://www.salon.com/2019/07/09/jared-kushner-and-the-qatar-blockade-conflict-of-interest_partner/

Jared Kushner and the Qatar blockade: Conflict of interest?
Jared Kushner might have supported the Qatar blockade due to being denied financial support for his family company.

I think Biden was hired ultimately to partially shield Burisma from investigations into it's past corruption. I don't think Biden's kid likely did anything that rises to the scale of warranting charges, but it sure stinks, almost as much as Kushner and Invanka's participation.

[TSA]

https://www.citizensforethics.org/nepotism-conflicts-interest-jared-kushner-ivanka-trump/

Sure, let's investigate Biden's time at Burisma, too.

https://www.salon.com/2019/07/09/jared-kushner-and-the-qatar-blockade-conflict-of-interest_partner/


I think Biden was hired ultimately to partially shield Burisma from investigations into it's past corruption. I don't think Biden's kid likely did anything that rises to the scale of warranting charges, but it sure stinks, almost as much as Kushner and Invanka's participation.

Biden’s son didn’t do anything illegal by taking the job.

[TSA]

Didn't read the report... but knows what it says. :rollin

Yes I know it debunked the Russian collusion narrative. Only a fool would say otherwise.

1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."

3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."

4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."

5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."

6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."

7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."


Do you need a refresher on what the Russian collusion narrative was?

[boutons_deux]

Why have Trash and his mafiya been "forgetting", lying, obstructing about their Russian contacts?

Why are Trash and mafiya LYING that it was Ukraine, not Pootin, who colluded with Trash?

Why is Trash blocking access to Mueller's evidence? Why is Trash blocking his mafiya from appearing Congress?

[RandomGuy]

Yes I know it debunked the Russian collusion narrative. Only a fool would say otherwise.

1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."

3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."

4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."

5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."

6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."

7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."

Do you need a refresher on what the Russian collusion narrative was?

Same Cherry picked talking points from the Report you won't read.

You won't read it, because you know I am right about the obstruction of justice parts.

You switch up to "criminal conspiracy" because yes, they colluded by any reasonable, common definition.

[RandomGuy]

Biden’s son didn’t do anything illegal by taking the job.

Did Jarred do something illegal in taking loans from foriegn governments?

[TSA]

Same Cherry picked talking points from the Report you won't read.

You won't read it, because you know I am right about the obstruction of justice parts.

You switch up to "criminal conspiracy" because yes, they colluded by any reasonable, common definition.

The Russian collusion narrative was never about obstruction of justice. You're terrible at this :lol


Meanwhile the Russian collusion narrative accused Trump and his campaign of all sorts of shit that Mueller debunked.


1. "The investigation did not establish that members of the Trump Campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities."

2. "The investigation examined whether [contacts between Russia and Trump figures] involved or resulted in coordination or a conspiracy with the Trump Campaign and Russia, including with respect to Russia providing assistance to the Campaign in exchange for any sort of favorable treatment in the future. Based on the available information, the investigation did not establish such coordination."

3. "The investigation did not establish that [Carter] Page coordinated with the Russian government in its efforts to interfere with the 2016 election."

4. "The Office did not identify evidence in those [contacts between Russians and people around Trump after the GOP convention] of coordination between the Campaign and the Russian government."

5. "The Office did not identify evidence of a connection between Manafort's sharing polling data and Russia's interference in the election ... [and] the investigation did not establish that Manafort otherwise coordinated with the Russian government on its election-interference efforts."

6. "The investigation did not establish that these [contacts between Russians and people around Trump during the transition] reflected or constituted coordination between the Trump Campaign and Russia in its election interference activities."

7. "The investigation did not identify evidence that any U.S. persons conspired or coordinated with the [Russian disinformation campaign]."

[ElNono]

Well, objectively, explained like this:

...makes it sound like you're wrong. Is this description of Ol Joe doing Democrat things fair and accurate?

Honestly, the explanation misses the point. A US official holding funding in the best interests of the US is perfectly fine. What’s not fine is holding funding in exchange for dirt on your political opponent.

[Winehole23]

Biden is on camera bragging about holding up 1 billion in aid unless the prosecutor was fired and his son sat on the board of a company being investigated. Meanwhile the Russian collusion narrative accused Trump and his campaign of all sorts of shit that Mueller debunked. Explain how the Biden-Ukraingate is somehow flimsier than the debunked Russian collusion narrative.Like ElNono just said, nothing wrong with a quid pro quo in the national interest. If Rudy has the goods, why is he working the press instead of Bob Barr?

1202756071720394752

[Winehole23]

Also, if Rudy has the goods on Biden, why did he just go back to Ukraine?

[TSA]

Like ElNono just said, nothing wrong with a quid pro quo in the national interest. If Rudy has the goods, why is he working the press instead of Bob Barr?

1202756071720394752

Explain how the Biden-Ukraingate is somehow flimsier than the debunked Russian collusion narrative.

[Winehole23]

Explain how the Biden-Ukraingate is somehow flimsier than the debunked Russian collusion narrative.
Just did.

Where's the evidence Biden was doing a favor for his son?

[spurraider21]

The Russian collusion narrative was never about obstruction of justice. You're terrible at this :lol
to be fair it kind of was since the day he fired comey, which wasn't very long into the investigation. from that point forward it was sort of a two-track investigation

[TSA]

Pretty much.

They even concluded that the decision not to prosecute Clinton, was pretty well supported by policy and generally held prosecutor principles, i.e. not politically motivated.


... that would require reading the article first. Kind of hard to "take a shit" on someone when you step on your dick and look like an idiot because you mouth off before finding out what the topic is about. :lol

Your butthurt keeps me warm inside on cold winter days.

:rollin

[RandomGuy]

The Russian collusion narrative was never about obstruction of justice. You're terrible at this :lol

Dude, we knew he was likely obstructing justice as he was doing most of that. It wasn't a secret.

You are just so used to making excuses for his illegal behavior, like raping a 13 year old, that you forget a few.

It's ok, I understand.

[RandomGuy]

Also, if Rudy has the goods on Biden, why did he just go back to Ukraine?

$$$$$

[RandomGuy]

:rollin

(chuckles)

The irony here, is that I read the wrong 500 page report, and you, who don't read anything, are attempting a burn.

That is some seriously un-selfaware dumbassery.

[pgardn]

(chuckles)The irony here, is that I read the wrong 500 page report, and you, who don't read anything, are attempting a burn.That is some seriously un-selfaware dumbassery.

[pgardn]

(chuckles)The irony here, is that I read the wrong 500 page report, and you, who don't read anything, are attempting a burn.That is some seriously un-selfaware dumbassery.Ever since his pizza gate investigation he hesitates to fully read even the absolutely worst sources. If orange guy could just keep from making the perfect phone calls, deflection would be unnecessary. Really, if we did not have such an astonishingly bad presidency, how Biden’s son became involved does actually show how important being around people connected with $ can be. Drain the swamp just fell off the cliff when the Trump clan and followers found themselves in positions to gain wealth. Orange guy used Hillary and Bill as an example of swamp rats and then made sure to exponentially contradict himself with Jared, his son, Rudy... it’s a long list.

[ChumpDumper]

TSA's MO is to start with an unbelievable conspiretard story he says he indeed doesn't believe, then when we laugh at it he starts throwing up link after link supporting the theory he says he didn't believe. The links get more and more insanely right wing, the articles get more and more laughable with claimed granular detail that makes TSA forget the first stupid overall conspiracy theory was and still is ridiculous on its face. This is how he ended up pimping a guy who claimed suspects were controlling the minds of alleged child abuse victims in the courtroom using tactics like Cat Stevens songs.

[Spurs Homer]

TSA's MO is to start with an unbelievable conspiretard story he says he indeed doesn't believe, then when we laugh at it he starts throwing up link after link supporting the theory he says he didn't believe. The links get more and more insanely right wing, the articles get more and more laughable with claimed granular detail that makes TSA forget the first stupid overall conspiracy theory was and still is ridiculous on its face. This is how he ended up pimping a guy who claimed suspects were controlling the minds of alleged child abuse victims in the courtroom using tactics like Cat Stevens songs.


lol


boooom!

comrade TSA will come in and spike the football on something even worse than those truth nukes above!

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204092155440046081

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1204086336157814785

[Spurs Homer]

BOOOMMM!!!



:rollin:rollin:rollin:rollin

[pgardn]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204092155440046081

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1204086336157814785

Its not been fully released to the public so you expect a “LOOKS LIKE” from Devin Nunes to be accurate?

Preemptive attempt to sway his spooners like you.

[pgardn]

...

[djohn2oo8]

1204094372083617797

[TSA]

Its not been fully released to the public so you expect a “LOOKS LIKE” from Devin Nunes to be accurate?

Preemptive attempt to sway his spooners like you.

They were briefed before the public release genius.

[TSA]

1204094372083617797

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204100939214397440

[Spurs Homer]

https://mobile.twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204100939214397440

”FBI probe was LEGAL & UNBIASED”

translation= Trump was colluding with Russia to sell out the USA and cheat the 2016 election.


NO OTHER WAY TO TRANSLATE THE FACTS.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204092155440046081

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1204086336157814785
just getting ahead of the story for spin purposes tho, amirite TSA? or is that only when its not convenient to the narrative

[DarrinS]

justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

[spurraider21]

justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf
thanks :tu

this thing is comprehensive af. a lot of mistakes made by FBI tbh

[djohn2oo8]

1204103826485239809



TSA seddddddd Steele was biased

[TSA]

Shortly after opening the Carter Page investigation in August 2016, the Crossfire Hurricane team discussed the possible use of FISA-authorized electronic surveillance targeting Page, which is among the most sensitive and intrusive investigative techniques. As we describe in Chapter Five, the FBI ultimately did not seek a FISA order at that time because OGC, NSD's Office of Intelligence (OI), or both determined that more information was needed to support probable cause that Page was an agent of a foreign power. However, immediately after the Crossfire Hurricane team received Steele's election reporting on September 19, the team reinitiated their discussions with or and their efforts to obtain FISA surveillance authority for Page, which they received from the FISC on October 21. The decision to seek to use this highly intrusive investigative technique was known and approved at multiple levels of the Department, including by then DAG Yates for the initial FISA application and first renewal, and by then Acting Attorney General Boente and then DAG Rosenstein for the second and third renewals, respectively. However, as we explain later, the Crossfire Hurricane team failed to inform Department officials of significant information that was available to the team at the time that the FISA applications were drafted and filed. Much of that information was inconsistent with, or undercut, the assertions contained in the FISA applications that were used to support probable cause and, in some instances, resulted in inaccurate information being included in the applications.

https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf

[spurraider21]

the altered email we read about:


Omitted Page's prior relationship with another U.S. governmentagency, despite being reminded by the other agency in June 2017,prior to the filing of the final renewal application, about Page's paststatus with that other agency; instead of including this information inthe final renewal application, the FBI OGC Attorney altered an emailfrom the other agency so that the email stated that Page was "not asource" for the other agency, which the FBI affiant relied upon insigning the final renewal application;

[djohn2oo8]

1204106104986357760

[djohn2oo8]

1204106104986357760 TSA

[spurraider21]

the biggest error in the renewal application (report called it the most egregious)


Omitted the fact that Steele's Primary Sub-source, who the FBI foundcredible, had made statements in January 2017 raising significantquestions about the reliability of allegations included in the FISAapplications, including, for example, that he/she had no discussionwith Person 1 concerning WikiLeaks and there was "nothing bad" aboutthe communications between the Kremlin and the Trump team, andthat he/she did not report to Steele in July 2016 that Page had metwith Sechin;

[TSA]

thanks :tu

this thing is comprehensive af. a lot of mistakes made by FBI tbh

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-director-christopher-wray-response-to-inspector-general-report

[spurraider21]

pretty significant imo


As with the first FISA application, we do not speculate whether orhow having accurate and complete information might have influenced the decisionsof senior Department leaders who supported the renewal applications, or the court,if they had known all of the relevant information. Nevertheless, it was theobligation of the FBI agents and supervisors who were aware of the information toensure that the FISA applications were "scrupulously accurate" and that 01, theDepartment's decision makers, and ultimately, the court had the opportunity toconsider the additional information and the information omitted from the firstapplication. The individuals involved did not meet this obligation.

[djohn2oo8]

1204100366863929344

[TSA]

the altered email we read about:

fuck that is worse than what was initially thought

[djohn2oo8]

1204109596169773056

[spurraider21]

https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/fbi-director-christopher-wray-response-to-inspector-general-report
:tu

i'm skimming through the main report, dont have time to read the whole thing in one sitting. there were clearly a lot of mistakes made by FBI officials in the warrant applications tbh. its not surprising (but also not acceptable) that a law enforcement agency will take liberties in trying to successfully obtain a warrant that they want. i do think the proper purpose/factual predicate, and opening of investigation prior to Steele dossier does cut quite a bit into some of the big arguments we've heard all along, imo

[djohn2oo8]

1204110636130750464

[spurraider21]

woods procedures


We also found the quantity of omissions and inaccuracies in the applicationsand the obvious errors in the Woods Procedures deeply concerning. Although we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on thepart of the case agents who assisted 01 in preparing the applications, or the agentsand supervisors who performed the Woods Procedures, we also did not receivesatisfactory explanations for the errors or missing information. In most instances,witnesses told us that they either did not know or recall why the information wasnot shared with 01, that the failure to do so may have been an oversight, that theydid not recognize at the time the relevance of the information to the FISAapplication, or that they did not believe the missing information to be significant.On this last point, we believe that case agents may have improperly substitutedtheir own judgments in place of the judgment of 01 to consider the potentialmateriality of the information, or in place of the court to weigh the probative valueof the information. As described above, given that certain factual misstatementswere repeated in all four applications, across three different investigative teams, wealso concluded that agents and supervisors failed to appropriately perform theWoods Procedures on the renewal applications by not giving much, if any, attentionto re-verifying "old facts." We recommend that the Woods Form be revised toemphasize to agents and their supervisors this obligation and to have them certifythat they re-verified factual assertions repeated from prior applications.

[RandomGuy]

Ever since his pizza gate investigation he hesitates to fully read even the absolutely worst sources. If orange guy could just keep from making the perfect phone calls, deflection would be unnecessary. Really, if we did not have such an astonishingly bad presidency, how Biden’s son became involved does actually show how important being around people connected with $ can be. Drain the swamp just fell off the cliff when the Trump clan and followers found themselves in positions to gain wealth. Orange guy used Hillary and Bill as an example of swamp rats and then made sure to exponentially contradict himself with Jared, his son, Rudy... it’s a long list.

"he hesitates"

Eyup. He won't read things like the full Mueller report, because he knows that the propaganda he spews here is bullshit. I think that, in his head, it gives him some sort of plausible deniability for being able to say he is honest to himself.

The why of that... no clue. I have heard it posited that these theories get wrapped up in self-identity, and form no small part of one's self-esteem, e.g. "I found the TRUTH, all these other people aren't as smart as I am, hahahaha!"

I am just about done taking him at all seriously. I think just about any serious conservative has long since given up on both the GOP and Trump, leaving only the rabid cultists to pat each other on the back at how red pill "woke" they are.

[RandomGuy]

TSA's MO is to start with an unbelievable conspiretard story he says he indeed doesn't believe, then when we laugh at it he starts throwing up link after link supporting the theory he says he didn't believe. The links get more and more insanely right wing, the articles get more and more laughable with claimed granular detail that makes TSA forget the first stupid overall conspiracy theory was and still is ridiculous on its face. This is how he ended up pimping a guy who claimed suspects were controlling the minds of alleged child abuse victims in the courtroom using tactics like Cat Stevens songs.

Pretty much. When you assign credibility to cranks... you get up with fleas, at the mix of a metaphor.

[djohn2oo8]

So pretty much all his theories are dead

[spurraider21]

role of steele dossier


When the CrossfireHurricane team first proposed seeking a FISA order targeting Carter Page in midAugust 2016, FBI attorneys assisting the investigation considered it a "close call"whether they had developed the probable cause necessary to obtain the order, anda FISA order was not requested at that time. However, in September 2016,immediately after the Crossfire Hurricane team received reporting from ChristopherSteele concerning Page's alleged recent activities with Russian officials, FBIattorneys advised the Department that the team was ready to move forward with arequest to obtain FISA authority to surveil Page. FBI and Department officials toldus the Steele reporting "pushed [the FISA proposal] over the line" in terms ofestablishing probable cause.

[spurraider21]

may have posted about this before, but imo this is the biggest shot


We do not speculate whether the correction of any particular misstatement oromission, or some combination thereof, would have resulted in a different outcome.Nevertheless, the Department's decision makers and the court should have beengiven complete and accurate information so that they could meaningfully evaluateprobable cause before authorizing the surveillance of a U.S. person associated witha presidential campaign. That did not occur, and as a result, the surveillance ofCarter Page continued even as the FBI gathered information that weakened theassessment of probable cause and made the FISA applications less accurate.

[djohn2oo8]

1204113863219777545

[RandomGuy]

The fact that the FBI believed Steele had been retained to conduct political opposition research did not require the FBI, under either DOJ or FBI policy, to ignore his reporting. The FBI
regularly receives information from individuals with potentially significant biases and motivations, including drug traffickers, convicted felons, and even terrorists. The FBI is not required to set aside such information; rather, FBI policy requires that it critically assess the information. We found that after receiving Steele's reporting, the Crossfire Hurricane team began those efforts in earnest.
We determined that the FBI's decision to receive Steele's information for Crossfire Hurricane was based on multiple factors, including:
( 1 Steele's prior work as an intelligence professional for;
(2) his expertise on Russia;
(3) his record as an FBI CHS;
( 4) the assessment of Steele's handling agent that Steele was reliable and had provided helpful information
to the FBI in the past; and (5) the themes of Steele's reporting were consistent with the FBI's knowledge at
the time of Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S. elections

So basically the dossier was a fair starting point suggesting a need for follow up at the very least.

[djohn2oo8]

So basically the dossier was a fair starting point suggesting a need for follow up at the very least.
It wasnt the starting point of the investigation

[spurraider21]

FBI isn't getting out of this with their hands clean, at all.

but the "hoax investigation witchhunt" stuff doesnt get much traction

[TSA]

may have posted about this before, but imo this is the biggest shot

appreciate the snippets. I gave up trying to read the report from my phone and will wait to get back to a desktop.

[RandomGuy]

These factors included, among other things, limited recollections, the inability to question Corney or refresh his recollection with relevant, classified documentation because of his lack of a security clearance, and the absence of meeting minutes that would show the specific details shared with Corney and McCabe during briefings they received, beyond the more general investigative updates that we know they were provided.


Trump Weighs Revoking Security Clearances for Several Ex-Obama Officials
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-23/trump-weighs-revoking-security-clearances-for-comey-brennan

So Trump's pettiness allowed Comey an easy out. :rollin

[RandomGuy]

It wasnt the starting point of the investigation

True. "put it over the line".

[RandomGuy]

In our view, this was a failure of not only the
operational team, but also of the managers and
supervisors, including senior officials, in the chain of
command. For these reasons, we recommend that the
FBI review the performance of the employees who had
responsibility for the preparation, Woods review, or
approval of the FISA applications, as well as the
managers and supervisors in the chain of command of
the Carter Page investigation, including senior officials,
and take any action deemed appropriate. In addition,
given the extensive compliance failures we identified in
this review, we believe that additional OIG oversight
work is required to assess the FBI's compliance with
Department and FBI FISA-related policies that seek to
protect the civil liberties of U.S. persons.

So basically Horowitz found the Carter Page FISA warrant was legal.

[pgardn]

They were briefed before the public release genius.

so what? the point still stood at the time fathead

[spurraider21]

appreciate the snippets. I gave up trying to read the report from my phone and will wait to get back to a desktop.
:tu... as you know this FISA process has been my biggest area of interest throughout this whole saga. and tbh you ended up being right that there were a lot of errors on FBI's part, including woods procedures (i am officially removing the "muh" designation). i still dont think this vindicates the hoax/witchhunt talk at all.

i'll probably get through the whole thing throughout the week. i also know copy/pasting the text off these searchable PDF's has spacing issues where there are line breaks in the doc, but im not gonna go back and fix them, so you'll have to deal with that

[spurraider21]

True. "put it over the line".
put the probable cause required to get a warrant over the line

so people who have said "no steele dossier = no fisa" were right. but people who said the steele dossier had anything to do with launching/opening the investigation were wrong

[pgardn]

Its not been fully released to the public so you expect a “LOOKS LIKE” from Devin Nunes to be accurate?

Preemptive attempt to sway his spooners like you.

can you read this post from this morning?

[djohn2oo8]

1204119808863866880

[spurraider21]

they seemed content with Page, which would be a very odd for an FBI "out to get Trump"


As described in Chapter Five, although the Crossfire Hurricane team was also interested inseeking FISA surveillance targeting Papadopoulos, the FBI OGC attorneys were not supportive becausethe FBI had no information that Papadopoulos was being directed by the Russians. FBI and NSDofficials told us that the Crossfire Hurricane team ultimately did not seek FISA surveillance ofPapadopoulos. We were also told that the team also did not seek FISA surveillance of Manafort orFlynn, and we are aware of no information indicating that the Crossfire Hurricane team requested orseriously considered FISA surveillance of Manafort or Flynn.

[TSA]

:tu... as you know this FISA process has been my biggest area of interest throughout this whole saga. and tbh you ended up being right that there were a lot of errors on FBI's part, including woods procedures (i am officially removing the "muh" designation). i still dont think this vindicates the hoax/witchhunt talk at all.

i'll probably get through the whole thing throughout the week. i also know copy/pasting the text off these searchable PDF's has spacing issues where there are line breaks in the doc, but im not gonna go back and fix them, so you'll have to deal with that

:lol muh woods procedures :bobo

Horowitz was tasked with the Page FISA app, not the opening of the investigation. We'll learn more about the hoax/witch hunt angle when Durham finishes. He's already been reported to have expanded into Halper's role as a government contractor.

Horowitz also isn't going to make determinations on whether or not the FISA applications should have been accepted/renewed as that is for the FISC to decide, but he made clear all the bullshit he found in them.

[spurraider21]

nothing about Flynn's 302, from what i've skimmed through

[djohn2oo8]

1204120699406819328


:lol wow

[djohn2oo8]

:lol muh woods procedures :bobo

Horowitz was tasked with the Page FISA app, not the opening of the investigation. We'll learn more about the hoax/witch hunt angle when Durham finishes. He's already been reported to have expanded into Halper's role as a government contractor.

Horowitz also isn't going to make determinations on whether or not the FISA applications should have been accepted/renewed as that is for the FISC to decide, but he made clear all the bullshit he found in them.
:lmao You said the investigation was opened because of the dossier

[djohn2oo8]

There’s no bias. But keep kicking that can down the road

[djohn2oo8]

But now the DOJ IG wasn’t tasked with probing the investigation :rollin

[TSA]

nothing about Flynn's 302, from what i've skimmed through

Wouldn't expect anything as this was about the Page FISA app

[spurraider21]

:lol muh woods procedures :bobo
:bobo


Horowitz was tasked with the Page FISA app, not the opening of the investigation. We'll learn more about the hoax/witch hunt angle when Durham finishes. He's already been reported to have expanded into Halper's role as a government contractor.
thats disputed by the report itself, tbh, but can predictably kicked


Our review includedexamining:

• The decision to open Crossfire Hurricane and fourindividual cases on current and former membersof the Trump campaign, George Papadopoulos,Carter Page, Paul Manafort, and Michael Flynn;the early investigative steps taken; and whetherthe openings and early steps complied withDepartment and FBI policies;

• The FBI's relationship with Christopher Steele,whom the FBI considered to be a confidentialhuman source (CHS); its receipt, use, andevaluation of election reports from Steele; and itsdecision to close Steele as an FBI CHS;

• Four FBI applications filed with the ForeignIntelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) in 2016 and2017 to conduct Foreign Intelligence SurveillanceAct (FISA) surveillance targeting Carter Page; andwhether these applications complied withDepartment and FBI policies and satisfied thegovernment's obligations to the FISC;

• The interactions of Department attorney BruceOhr with Steele, the FBI, Glenn Simpson of FusionGPS, and the State Department; whether workOhr's spouse performed for Fusion GPS implicatedethical rules applicable to Ohr; and Ohr'sinteractions with Department attorneys regardingthe Manafort criminal case; and

• The FBI's use of Undercover Employees (UCEs)and CHSs other than Steele in the CrossfireHurricane investigation; whether the FBI placedany CHSs within the Trump campaign or taskedany CHSs to report on the Trump campaign;whether the use of CHSs and UCEs complied withDepartment and FBI policies; and the attendanceof a Crossfire Hurricane supervisory agent atcounterintelligence briefings given to the 2016presidential candidates and certain campaignadvisors.


Horowitz also isn't going to make determinations on whether or not the FISA applications should have been accepted/renewed as that is for the FISC to decide, but he made clear all the bullshit he found in them.
yeah, he'd be overstepping and basically put himself in the shoes of a FISA judge, which he's not qualified to do.

[djohn2oo8]

Wouldn't expect anything as this was about the Page FISA app
:lmao

[djohn2oo8]

TSA why didn’t you tell me Ivanka did business with Steele?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1204101739185610763?s=19
https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1204101740850810883?s=19

[spurraider21]

lol spygate


The Use of Confidential Sources (OtherThan Steele) and Undercover EmployeesAs discussed in Chapter Ten, we determined that, during the 2016 presidential campaign, theCrossfire Hurricane team tasked several CHSs, which resulted in multiple interactions with Carter Page andGeorge Papadopoulos, both before and after they were affiliated with the Trump campaign, and one with a high-level Trump campaign official who was not a subject of the investigation. All of these CHS interactions were consensually monitored and recorded by the FBI. As noted above, under Department and FBI policy, the use of a CHS to conduct consensual monitoring is a matter of investigative judgment that, absent certain circumstances, can be authorized by a first-line supervisor (a supervisory special agent). We determined that the CHS operations conducted duringCrossfire Hurricane received the necessary FBI approvals, and that AD Priestap knew about, and approved of, all of the Crossfire Hurricane CHS operations, even in circumstances where a first-level supervisory special agent could have approved the operations. We found no evidence that the FBI usedCHSs or UCEs to interact with members of the Trump campaign prior to the opening of the Crossfire Hurricane investigation. After the opening of the investigation, we found no evidence that the FBI placed any CHSs orUCEs within the Trump campaign or tasked any CHSs orUCEs to report on the Trump campaign. Finally, we also found no documentary or testimonial evidence that political bias or improper motivations influenced theFBI's decision to use CHSs or UCEs to interact withTrump campaign officials in the Crossfire Hurricane investigation.

Although the Crossfire Hurricane team's use ofCHSs and UCEs complied with applicable policies, we are concerned that, under these policies, it was sufficient for a first-level FBI supervisor to authorize the domestic CHS operations that were undertaken inCrossfire Hurricane, and that there was no applicableDepartment or FBI policy requiring the FBI to notifyDepartment officials of the investigative team's decision to task CHSs to consensually monitor conversations with members of a presidential campaign. We found no evidence that the FBI consulted with any Department officials before conducting these CHS operations. We believe that current Department and FBI policies are not sufficient to ensure appropriate oversight and accountability when such operations potentially implicate sensitive, constitutionally protected activity, and that t hey should require, at minimum, Department consultation. As noted above, we include a recommendation in this report to address this issue.

[TSA]

:bobo


thats disputed by the report itself, tbh, but can predictably kicked



Thanks...wasn't aware it had expanded that much from original intent of Page FISA.

[djohn2oo8]

He quiet as fuck :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

1204119153411600385

[spurraider21]

He quiet as fuck :lmao
there's plenty of material in the report outlining repeated wrongdoings by FBI officials. again... there was no need for "The Unraveling" and the whole "They were out to get trump and made shit up to start an investigation" shtick. now, even though the report is pretty fucking extensive, it was always going to fall short of those expectations

[RandomGuy]

FBI isn't getting out of this with their hands clean, at all.

but the "hoax investigation witchhunt" stuff doesnt get much traction

Nope. No secretive cabal. Just a bunch of law enforcement personnel used to little scrutiny not really following the procedures they were supposed to.


We concluded that the FBI's decision to open Crossfire Hurricane and the four
related individual investigations was, under Department and FBI policy, a
discretionary judgment call and that the FBI's exercise of discretion was in
compliance with those policies. For the reasons described below, we found that
each investigation was opened for an authorized purpose and, in light of the low
threshold established by Department and FBI predication policy, with adequate
factual predication.

[RandomGuy]

He quiet as fuck :lmao

He is on his phone. It is hard to keep up just using that. I have tried on occasasion and it sucks. Cut him SOME slack.

[TSA]

We determined that the Crossfire Hurricane team's r eceipt of Steele's election reporting on September 19, 2016 played a central and essential role in the FBI's and Department's decision to seek the FISA order. As noted above, when the team first sought to pursue a FISA order for Page in August 2016, a decision was made by OGC, 01, or both that more information was needed to support a probable cause finding that Page was an agent of a foreign power. As a result, FBI OGC ceased discussions with 01 about a Page FISA order at that time. On September 19, 2016, the same day that the Crossfire Hurricane team first received Steele's election reporting, the team contacted FBI OGC again about seeking a FISA order for Page and specifically focused on Steele's reporting in drafting the FISA request. Two days later, on September 21, the FBI OGC Unit Chief contacted the NSD 01 Unit Chief to advise him that the FBI believed it was ready to submit a formal FISA request to 01 relating to Page. Almost immediately thereafter, 01 assigned an attorney (01 Attorney) to begin preparation of the application.:lol ready to submit a FISA application 2 days after receiving and obviously not vetting the Steele dossier

[spurraider21]

:lol ready to submit a FISA application 2 days after receiving and obviously not vetting the Steele dossier
they werent ready to submit an application 2 days later. 2 days later it was assigned to an attorney to begin preparing the application. theoretically, the vetting/woods procedures would be done during that prep

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/Barnes_Law/status/1204125637289492480?s=19

[TSA]

they werent ready to submit an application 2 days later. 2 days later it was assigned to an attorney to begin preparing the application. theoretically, the vetting/woods procedures would be done during that prep

Two days later, on September 21, the FBI OGC Unit Chief contacted the NSD 01 Unit Chief to advise him that the FBI believed it was ready to submit a formal FISA request to 01 relating to Page.

[RandomGuy]

We'll learn more about the hoax/witch hunt angle when Durham finishes.

On to the next "WE GOT THEM THIS TIME FOR SURE" investigation. If my eyes roll any harder at that, I will need surgery to get them unstuck.

Safe bet:

It won't fucking say what you seem to so desperately want it to.

[djohn2oo8]

Horowitz couldn’t question Comey because Trump like a spiteful idiot took his clearance

[spurraider21]

Two days later, on September 21, the FBI OGC Unit Chief contacted the NSD 01 Unit Chief to advise him that the FBI believed it was ready to submit a formal FISA request to 01 relating to Page.
ah, right. i think i was confused by the semantics. initially thought it meant that within 2 days they had already prepped and were ready to submit the app to the judge.

[djohn2oo8]

He is on his phone. It is hard to keep up just using that. I have tried on occasasion and it sucks. Cut him SOME slack.
Seems I’m on his ignore list :lol

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204113036363157504

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204092155440046081

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1204086336157814785So you were just completely full of shit when you said wait for the actual report.

:lol rube

[RandomGuy]

lol


boooom!

comrade TSA will come in and spike the football on something even worse than those truth nukes above!




https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204092155440046081

https://twitter.com/DevinNunes/status/1204086336157814785

:rollin

[TSA]

Seems I’m on his ignore list :lol

Nope :lol I'm just having a good time watching you try and find something to do a victory lap over.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/Jim_Jordan/status/1204122694368841729

[djohn2oo8]

Nope :lol I'm just having a good time watching you try and find something to do a victory lap over.
Can you tell me what started the FBI investigation?

[djohn2oo8]

So you were just completely full of shit when you said wait for the actual report.

:lol rube
:lol

[Spurs Homer]

Trump claiming victory lolololol

[Spurs Homer]

:rollin

lol

[RandomGuy]

Get ready for the lit crit.

There's bound to be derogatory information that makes TSA declare victory and spike the football again.again

Eyup.

[RandomGuy]

Buried lede in this WaPo story: Horowitz has found that the Carter Page FISA warrant application had a proper legal and factual basis



:lol buried lede
:lol WaPo

If it were true it’d be the fucking headline of the article. You are so fucking gullible.

uh-huh.

[TSA]

Can you tell me what started the FBI investigation?

Papa D talking to Downer.

And this is exactly what I'm talking about with you trying to find something to do a victory lap over. You want to steer the discussion away from the fact the the OIG report just blasted the FBI for their FISA applications on Page. It's funny, pathetic, and predictable.

[TSA]

uh-huh.

do you have spurraider21 on ignore? He's already posted numerous pieces of the report detailing multiple problems with the Page FISA application.

[djohn2oo8]

Papa D talking to Downer.

And this is exactly what I'm talking about with you trying to find something to do a victory lap over. You want to steer the discussion away from the fact the the OIG report just blasted the FBI for their FISA applications on Page. It's funny, pathetic, and predictable.

i just wanted to see if you dropped the dossier theory

[djohn2oo8]

Another one. Enlighten me about Ivanka and Steele please.

[TSA]

Statement by Attorney General William P. Barr on the Inspector General's Report of the Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation

Attorney General William P. Barr issued the following statement:

"Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.

The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.

FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.

No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.

With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action."

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-william-p-barr-inspector-generals-report-review-four-fisa

[ChumpDumper]

So TSA's big Horowitz report is a nothingburger.

He'll have anonymous tweets saying capital crimes were committed in some granular paperwork omissions or errors, declare victory and prayingdog.gif to Durham.

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1204129630820687872?s=19

[TSA]

i just wanted to see if you dropped the dossier theory

It's not a theory anymore. There would have been no FISA without the Steele dossier.

[djohn2oo8]

It's not a theory anymore. There would have been no FISA without the Steele dossier.
You said the dossier started the investigation

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Drunkass felon George started everything.

[TSA]

You said the dossier started the investigation

I don't recall saying that after learning about the Papa D/Downer conversation, which is old news. Watching you try and salvage some points is hilarious. Do you want me to go to your Flynn thread and start bumping the thousands of predictions you made in there that were completely wrong? Speaking of the Flynn thread, where's my 2 grand faggot?

[TSA]

Statement by Attorney General William P. Barr on the Inspector General's Report of the Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation

Attorney General William P. Barr issued the following statement:

"Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.

The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.

FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.

No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.

With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action."

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-william-p-barr-inspector-generals-report-review-four-fisa


Statement of U.S. Attorney John H. Durham

“I have the utmost respect for the mission of the Office of Inspector General and the comprehensive work that went into the report prepared by Mr. Horowitz and his staff. However, our investigation is not limited to developing information from within component parts of the Justice Department. Our investigation has included developing information from other persons and entities, both in the U.S. and outside of the U.S. Based on the evidence collected to date, and while our investigation is ongoing, last month we advised the Inspector General that we do not agree with some of the report’s conclusions as to predication and how the FBI case was opened.”

https://www.justice.gov/usao-ct/pr/statement-us-attorney-john-h-durham

[DarrinS]

1204105392646737921

[ChumpDumper]

1204105392646737921:lol Darrin also prayingdog.gif for Durham.


Do you think Trump is a good President?

[Spurs Homer]

The traitor toddler in chief is upset and throwing a tantrum because the IG report did not fit his made up story about this being the biggest hoax/witch hunt scandal in history

and instead was a proper legal and unbiased investigation.

so will any adult sternly and firmly explain to the toddler throwing a tantrum - that the game is over, the lies he tells are not going to be tolerated?

nope

barr....durham....his cult...the GOP

will now....


entertain the toddlers gigantic tales of bullshit and twist and contort themselves into pretzels to appease the traitor toddler and give his bullshit some play


give his tantrums importance
enable and abet the toddler who is selling out an entire country


because no adult can stop the toddler and are helping the toddler to achieve his goal of being above the law.


We have lost our fucking minds.

[Spurminator]

Statement by Attorney General William P. Barr on the Inspector General's Report of the Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI’s Crossfire Hurricane Investigation

Attorney General William P. Barr issued the following statement:

"Nothing is more important than the credibility and integrity of the FBI and the Department of Justice. That is why we must hold our investigators and prosecutors to the highest ethical and professional standards. The Inspector General’s investigation has provided critical transparency and accountability, and his work is a credit to the Department of Justice. I would like to thank the Inspector General and his team.

The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken. It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory. Nevertheless, the investigation and surveillance was pushed forward for the duration of the campaign and deep into President Trump’s administration. In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source. The Inspector General found the explanations given for these actions unsatisfactory. While most of the misconduct identified by the Inspector General was committed in 2016 and 2017 by a small group of now-former FBI officials, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.

FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.

No one is more dismayed about the handling of these FISA applications than Director Wray. I have full confidence in Director Wray and his team at the FBI, as well as the thousands of dedicated line agents who work tirelessly to protect our country. I thank the Director for the comprehensive set of proposed reforms he is announcing today, and I look forward to working with him to implement these and any other appropriate measures.

With respect to DOJ personnel discussed in the report, the Department will follow all appropriate processes and procedures, including as to any potential disciplinary action."

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-william-p-barr-inspector-generals-report-review-four-fisa


:lmao
Barr

Go ahead and tell us what Donald thinks too.

Very reliable sources. The best!

[spurraider21]

1204105392646737921
odd that he'd make that comment. his role should be to press charges or not, as opposed to expressing his opinions in this manner. i dont think he's been commissioned to prepare a report

[TSA]

:lmao
Barr

Go ahead and tell us what Donald thinks too.

Very reliable sources. The best!

“In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source.”

Is this true or untrue?

[ChumpDumper]

:lol TSA trying to declare victory over sloppy paperwork

[djohn2oo8]

Yep. Durham doesn’t have jurisdiction to write own report/question work of US attorneys

[djohn2oo8]

:lol TSA trying to declare victory over sloppy paperwork
He called the DOJ and FBI rogue and corrupt. Yet here we are with no bias

[Spurminator]

“In the rush to obtain and maintain FISA surveillance of Trump campaign associates, FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source.”

Is this true or untrue?

I'm mocking you parroting the most beta subservient AG we've ever had, as if his opinion on the matter wasn't just as pre-determined as yours.

You can discuss the finer points of the IG report with some other poster who hasn't written you off as a predictable and disingenuous shill. I'm not interested.
:cheer :cheer

[ChumpDumper]

:lol Comey taking a victory lap on MSNBC. Said Fox & Friends canceled after the report came out but told him they might reschedule after the Durham report comes out.

Says Trump and the rubes aren't moving the goalpost, they're moving the stadium. :lmao

Trump's secret police waiting outside the studio to arrest him. #QAnon #It'sHappeningGIF

[TSA]

I'm mocking you parroting the most beta subservient AG we've ever had, as if his opinion on the matter wasn't just as pre-determined as yours.

You can discuss the finer points of the IG report with some other poster who hasn't written you off as a predictable and disingenuous shill. I'm not interested.
:cheer :cheer

:lol mocking pre-determined opinions that the IG proved correct

[ChumpDumper]

:lol mocking pre-determined opinions that the IG proved correctScanning the document I can't find anything about unlawful exoneration.

Is that Undercover Durham's deal now?

[RandomGuy]

It's not a theory anymore. There would have been no FISA without the Steele dossier.

https://media.tenor.com/images/83116dac5575fef19f9a39e17984e7bd/tenor.gif

If memory serves, you have claimed repeatedly that the Steele dossier was used to kick all this investigation off. You have said it repeatedly, and loudly.

I guess I could comb through all your old posts to prove that, but I don't think you are worth the effort anymore.

Now it is simply "part of" the justification for the FISA warrant, which no one really doubted.

The IG report you listed stated that there were good reasons, as I have pointed out, to take the dossier somewhat serious to begin with, albeit with fact checking all the way.

[RandomGuy]

I'm mocking you parroting the most beta subservient AG we've ever had, as if his opinion on the matter wasn't just as pre-determined as yours.

You can discuss the finer points of the IG report with some other poster who hasn't written you off as a predictable and disingenuous shill. I'm not interested.
:cheer :cheer

Nixons AG went to jail.

Just sayin'

[RandomGuy]

, the malfeasance and misfeasance detailed in the Inspector General’s report reflects a clear abuse of the FISA process.[/b]

FISA is an essential tool for the protection of the safety of the American people. The Department of Justice and the FBI are committed to taking whatever steps are necessary to rectify the abuses that occurred and to ensure the integrity of the FISA process going forward.

FISA courts have always been poorly overseen and easy targets for law enforcement to abuse over individuals rights, IMO.

The more fascist pieces of shit like Barr say they need these "essential tools" the more you can bet we can probably do better.

[DarrinS]

1204140915817951232

[ChumpDumper]

1204140915817951232Do you watch Fox News, Darrin?

[TSA]

https://media.tenor.com/images/83116dac5575fef19f9a39e17984e7bd/tenor.gif

If memory serves, you have claimed repeatedly that the Steele dossier was used to kick all this investigation off. You have said it repeatedly, and loudly.

I guess I could comb through all your old posts to prove that, but I don't think you are worth the effort anymore.

Now it is simply "part of" the justification for the FISA warrant, which no one really doubted.

The IG report you listed stated that there were good reasons, as I have pointed out, to take the dossier somewhat serious to begin with, albeit with fact checking all the way.

I repeatedly said the there would be no FISA warrant without the Steele dossier, the IG report confirmed this.

[ChumpDumper]

All investigations justified and proper.

No political bias.

Maybe one criminal referral?

Not a great day for the Trumpettes.

[djohn2oo8]

All investigations justified and proper.

No political bias.

Maybe one criminal referral?

Not a great day for the Trumpettes.
:lol

[RandomGuy]

I repeatedly said the there would be no FISA warrant without the Steele dossier, the IG report confirmed this.

(shrugs)


485 We determined that the election reporting from Christopher Steele played no role in the
opening of Crossfire Hurricane. As described in Chapter Four, while some individuals in the FBI,
including Steele's handling agent, had received Steele's election reporting as early as July 2016, the
CD officials at FBI Headquarters and the members of the Crossfire Hurricane team did not receive the
first Steele reports until September 19-weeks after the Crossfire Hurricane investigation was
opened-and were not aware of any of the information in the reports prior to that date. We also found
no evidence that the FBI undertook any investigative activities directed at the Trump campaign or
members of the Trump campaign before opening Crossfire Hurricane on July 31, 2016. As described
in Chapters Three and Nine, the FBI had ongoing investigations of Paul Manafort and Carter Page at
that time, which were unrelated to the information that predicated Crossfire Hurricane.

Edit:

I do not believe your current representation. I remember your statements quite differently. While my memory may be fallible, you are an actively dishonest sophist. I trust my memory vastly more than I trust any representation by you of what you said or didn't say.

[spurraider21]

I repeatedly said the there would be no FISA warrant without the Steele dossier, the IG report confirmed this.
true, but you had also said at least one time that they had previously applied for a warrant, were rejected, then got their hands on the dossier to reapply for the warrant. that wasnt true either. they did not elect to seek a fisa warrant before because they realized they didnt have PC

[TSA]

(shrugs)

In order to obtain the most intrusive form of surveillance on an innocent US Citizen the FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source.

More (shrugs)?

[TSA]

true, but you had also said at least one time that they had previously applied for a warrant, were rejected, then got their hands on the dossier to reapply for the warrant. that wasnt true either. they did not elect to seek a fisa warrant before because they realized they didnt have PC

ok...so what?

[spurraider21]

ok...so what?
that would be a pretty big detail in trying to prove that deep state was just doing whatever they could to take down trump at all costs

[spurraider21]

i know that darrin outright said the dossier is what launched the investigation, i dont know that TSA made that claim

[ChumpDumper]

1204150973549035520
1204151709506760704

It's already started here. Might as well go back to the pizza well.

[TSA]

i know that darrin outright said the dossier is what launched the investigation, i dont know that TSA made that claim

I don't remember making that claim and if I did it would have been before the Papa D/Halper information came out.

[RandomGuy]

Trump claims DOJ inspector general report shows 'attempted overthrow' of the government
https://news.yahoo.com/trump-says-doj-inspector-general-200922630.html

Dangerous demogoguery.

[RandomGuy]

In order to obtain the most intrusive form of surveillance on an innocent US Citizen the FBI officials misled the FISA court, omitted critical exculpatory facts from their filings, and suppressed or ignored information negating the reliability of their principal source.

More (shrugs)?


FISA courts have always been poorly overseen and easy targets for law enforcement to abuse over individuals rights, IMO.

The more fascist pieces of shit like Barr say they need these "essential tools" the more you can bet we can probably do better.

Already noted FISA courts suck ass. I don't like them. This just confirmed my suspicions about them.

[TSA]

that would be a pretty big detail in trying to prove that deep state was just doing whatever they could to take down trump at all costs

disagree on it being a pretty big detail as they still used the unverified dossier and lied on the FISA applications, omitted exculpatory evidence, and didn't follow the Woods procedures in order to obtain the warrant.

[TSA]

Already noted FISA courts suck ass. I don't like them. This just confirmed my suspicions about them.

lol wut?

How was the FISC supposed to know the FBI was lying on the applications?
How was the FISC supposed to know emails submitted as evidence had been altered?
How was the FISC supposed to know Page was a vetted source for the CIA if it was omitted from the application?
How was the FISC supposed to know Steele was not reliable and his reports were uncorroborated if it was omitted from the application?

[djohn2oo8]

Didn’t hear TSA say if they did anything illegal

[RandomGuy]

i know that darrin outright said the dossier is what launched the investigation, i dont know that TSA made that claim

TSA never missed any opportunity to disparage Mr. Steele and the dossier. dunno. not really going to go searching.

[RandomGuy]

Steele was not reliable

Not what anything in this report states. Quite the opposite in fact.[see below correction-RG]

(edit) Went back in and more carefully read:


We determined that the FBI's decision to
receive Steele's information for Crossfire Hurricane was
based on multiple factors, including: ( 1 Steele's prior
work as an intelli ence rofessional for
; (2)
his expertise on Russia; (3) his record as an FBI CHS;
( 4) the assessment of Steele's handling agent that
Steele was reliable and had provided helpful information
to the FBI in the past; and (5) the themes of Steele's
reporting were consistent with the FBI's knowledge at
the time of Russian efforts to interfere in the 2016 U.S.
elections.
However, as we describe later, as the FBI
obtained additional information raising significant
questions about the reliability of the Steele election
reporting, the FBI failed to reassess the Steele reporting
relied upon in the FISA applications, and did not fully
advise NSD or 01 officials.


"significant questions"

Take it back. They had fair reason to grant some weight to his information, but should have been a bit more skeptical as information developed.

Important from the same section:


We did not find documentary or testimonial
evidence that political bias or improper motivation
influenced the FBI's decision to seek FISA authority on
Carter Page.

No political witch hunt.

[boutons_deux]

‘A damn liar’: Bill Barr ripped for ‘playing clean up for Trump’ after release of IG report

The attorney general claimed this report, like special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation,

had cleared President Donald Trump of wrongdoing, and

insisted the probe had found the FBI had conducted an improper investigation of his 2016 presidential campaign.

“The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken,” Barr said in a statement (https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-william-p-barr-inspector-generals-report-review-four-fisa).

“It is also clear that, from its inception, the evidence produced by the investigation was consistently exculpatory.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/a-damn-liar-bill-barr-ripped-for-playing-clean-up-for-trump-after-release-of-ig-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3187 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/a-damn-liar-bill-barr-ripped-for-playing-clean-up-for-trump-after-release-of-ig-report/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3187)

Nothing amazing anymore. These Repug MOTHERFUCKERS are shameless, lawless, All Politics All The Time anti-Constitutional assholes

I expect Barr to refuse Trash's defeat in 2020

[TSA]

Not what anything in this report states. Quite the opposite in fact.

I mischaracterized slightly. Steele's handling agent said he was reliable in the past and some of his past work had been corroborated, but none had been used in criminal proceedings. And then the FBI lied to the FISC about his past work.

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204113036363157504

[RandomGuy]

I mischaracterized slightly. Steele's handling agent said he was reliable in the past and some of his past work had been corroborated, but none had been used in criminal proceedings. And then the FBI lied to the FISC about his past work.

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204113036363157504

(nods) Worked on my edit as you were typing this.

[TSA]

Already noted FISA courts suck ass. I don't like them. This just confirmed my suspicions about them.

I'm really curious here how you fault the FISC and not the FBI.

How was the FISC supposed to know the FBI was lying on the applications?
How was the FISC supposed to know emails submitted as evidence had been altered?
How was the FISC supposed to know Page was a vetted source for the CIA if it was omitted from the application?
How was the FISC supposed to know Steele was not reliable and his reports were uncorroborated if it was omitted from the application?

[RandomGuy]

We determined that the FBI's decision to rely
upon Steele's election reporting to help establish
probable cause that Page was an agent of Russia was a
judgment reached initially by the case agents on the Crossfire Hurricane team. We further determined that
FBI officials at every level concurred with this
judgment, from the OGC attorneys assigned to the
investigation to senior CD officials, then General
Counsel James Baker, then Deputy Director Andrew
McCabe, and then Director James Corney. FBI
leadership supported relying on Steele's reporting to
seek a FISA order on Page after being advised of, and
giving consideration to, concerns expressed by Stuart
Evans, then NSD's Deputy Assistant Attorney General
with oversight responsibility over OI, that Steele may
have been hired by someone associated with
presidential candidate Clinton or the DNC, and that the
foreign intelligence to be collected through the FISA
order would probably not be worth the "risk" of being
criticized later for collecting communications of
someone (Carter Page) who was "politically sensitive."
Accord ing to McCabe, the FBI "felt strongly" that the
FISA application should move forward because the team
believed they had to get to the bottom of what they
considered to be a potentially serious threat to national
security, even if the FBI would later be criticized for
taking such action. McCabe and others discussed the
FBI's position with NSD and ODAG officials, and these
officials accepted the FBI's decision to move forward
with the application, based substantially on the Steele
information

Seemed reasonable at first. Which I find pretty appropriate.

The remainder, after that:

[quite a few sections showing exculpatory information was omitted, both initially, and in the lazy re-applicaitons]

Legal, but sloppy, and not motivated by politics, but rather alarm at something that seemed quite serious. OP holds up.

[boutons_deux]

If Trash and his mafiya are innocent, why have they, and still are, guiltily forgetting, lying, obstructing the investigations?

[RandomGuy]

I'm really curious here how you fault the FISC and not the FBI.



"FISA courts have always been poorly overseen and easy targets for law enforcement to abuse over individuals rights, IMO.

The more fascist pieces of shit like Barr say they need these "essential tools" the more you can bet we can probably do better."-- previous statement.


"law enforcement" includes the FBI. The FBI was foremost in my mind under that term, but I left it broader as I am sure that is not the only federal agency of law enforcement that would, or does abuse police powers.

[TSA]

Seemed reasonable at first. Which I find pretty appropriate.

The remainder, after that:

[quite a few sections showing exculpatory information was omitted, both initially, and in the lazy re-applicaitons]

Legal, but sloppy, and not motivated by politics, but rather alarm at something that seemed quite serious. OP holds up.:lol trying to sugarcoat the massive fuckups by the FBI

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204159996856066048

[TSA]

"FISA courts have always been poorly overseen and easy targets for law enforcement to abuse over individuals rights, IMO.

The more fascist pieces of shit like Barr say they need these "essential tools" the more you can bet we can probably do better."-- previous statement.


"law enforcement" includes the FBI. The FBI was foremost in my mind under that term, but I left it broader as I am sure that is not the only federal agency of law enforcement that would, or does abuse police powers.

I was responding to this statement


Already noted FISA courts suck ass. I don't like them. This just confirmed my suspicions about them.

How was the FISC supposed to know the FBI was lying on the applications?
How was the FISC supposed to know emails submitted as evidence had been altered?
How was the FISC supposed to know Page was a vetted source for the CIA if it was omitted from the application?
How was the FISC supposed to know Steele was not reliable and his reports were uncorroborated if it was omitted from the application?

[RandomGuy]

:lol trying to sugarcoat the massive fuckups by the FBI

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204159996856066048

I said it was an abuse of an individual's rights. Not quite "sugar coating". If you prefer:

Sloppy, and intentionally misleading

As I have said: abuse by law enforcement.

[RandomGuy]

How was the FISC supposed to know the FBI was lying on the applications?
How was the FISC supposed to know emails submitted as evidence had been altered?
How was the FISC supposed to know Page was a vetted source for the CIA if it was omitted from the application?
How was the FISC supposed to know Steele was not reliable and his reports were uncorroborated if it was omitted from the application?

I like to put hot sauce on my peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. For reals.

[Spurs Homer]

lol wut?

How was the FISC supposed to know the FBI was lying on the applications?
How was the FISC supposed to know emails submitted as evidence had been altered?
How was the FISC supposed to know Page was a vetted source for the CIA if it was omitted from the application?
How was the FISC supposed to know Steele was not reliable and his reports were uncorroborated if it was omitted from the application?


Are you going to apologize to the fine men and women of the FBI for slandering them?

Is your cult daddy going to apologize to PAge/Strock/Ohr etc?


The FBI were legally in pursuit of traitors conspiring with Russians - this will never change and your defense of these traitors

says everything - anyone needs to know about you.

[koriwhat]

Are you going to apologize to the fine men and women of the FBI for slandering them?

Is your cult daddy going to apologize to PAge/Strock/Ohr etc?


The FBI were legally in pursuit of traitors conspiring with Russians - this will never change and your defense of these traitors

says everything - anyone needs to know about you.

:lmao

[spurraider21]

disagree on it being a pretty big detail as they still used the unverified dossier and lied on the FISA applications, omitted exculpatory evidence, and didn't follow the Woods procedures in order to obtain the warrant.
it shows restraint. they didnt go for a warrant when they didnt think they had enough legit evidence to back it up. imo that shows some integrity.

[spurraider21]

TSA never missed any opportunity to disparage Mr. Steele and the dossier. dunno. not really going to go searching.
he had stated that the dossier was the basis upon which the fisa warrant was applied for/granted, and that is correct

[TSA]

it shows restraint. they didnt go for a warrant when they didnt think they had enough legit evidence to back it up. imo that shows some integrity.

If they thought they had enough legit evidence they wouldn’t have lied about Steele’s past reports on the application.
If they thought they had enough legit evidence they wouldn’t have omitted Page being a vetted CIA source on the application.
If they thought they had enough legit evidence they wouldn’t have altered and falsified an e-mail submitted as evidence for the application.

:lol shows some integrity

[spurraider21]

btw, from page 197... renewal of fisa ap


Arenewal permits the government to continue FISA authority targeting a U.S. personfor an additional 90 days if the facts of the investigation continue to support afinding that there is probable cause to believe the targeted individual is an agent ofa foreign power
you need to show that the investigation is furthering your grounds for PC

[spurraider21]

If they thought they had enough legit evidence they wouldn’t have lied about Steele’s past reports on the application.
If they thought they had enough legit evidence they wouldn’t have omitted Page being a vetted CIA source on the application.
If they thought they had enough legit evidence they wouldn’t have altered and falsified an e-mail submitted as evidence for the application.

:lol shows some integrity
it does. its one thing if they decided, "hey fuck this trump guys, lets get a warrant to surveil papaG despite not having PC. oh, our warrant was denied? fuck, lets get some made up bullshit and call that PC"

there's no evidence that they were "out to get trump" hence the lack of finding of any political bias in launching the investigation, or even in using steele as a source.

[TSA]

Are you going to apologize to the fine men and women of the FBI for slandering them?

Is your cult daddy going to apologize to PAge/Strock/Ohr etc?


The FBI were legally in pursuit of traitors conspiring with Russians - this will never change and your defense of these traitors

says everything - anyone needs to know about you.

Did the OIG slander the FBI today by detailing the lies, omissions, and falsified documents they used to obtain a FISA warrant on Page?

[TSA]

it does. its one thing if they decided, "hey fuck this trump guys, lets get a warrant to surveil papaG despite not having PC. oh, our warrant was denied? fuck, lets get some made up bullshit and call that PC"

there's no evidence that they were "out to get trump" hence the lack of finding of any political bias in launching the investigation, or even in using steele as a source.

Lying, omitting, and using falsified documents to obtain a FISA warrant = integrity

:rollin

[djohn2oo8]

Did the OIG slander the FBI today by detailing the lies, omissions, and falsified documents they used to obtain a FISA warrant on Page?
There was no bias

[spurraider21]

Lying, omitting, and using falsified documents to obtain a FISA warrant = integrity

:rollin
i didnt say they acted with complete integrity. i already posted many snippets from the report showing serious wrongdoing on their part. im speaking of integrity strictly in the context of acting in a politically biased manner.

overzealous law enforcement cutting corners to get warrants, unfortunately, is far from scarce. i think you can find misconduct at large if you had the opportunity and resources for an investigation like this after all kinds of criminal inquiries, not just ones of this magnitude. thats not to underplay it or call it "ok." but its not particularly surprising that in something this big, they found issues.

i think the falsification of the emails is a pretty big deal, and that person probably should do time. i dont see any reason why we should look at their initial use of steele as politically motivated. they had worked with him before, and after discussing how to handle the oppo research background of the dossier, decided to go with the footnote. some people thought they should have done more. there was no finding that the footnote was a misrepresentation or omission according to the report, from what i've read

what the OIG laid out today is very important and i'm glad they've recommended all kinds of new procedures which the FBI seems ready to adopt to help prevent further abuses. but they still found that the investigation was launched for proper purposes, with the proper factual predicate, and that at no point did they find that the actions were politically motivated. lets not suddenly act like that wasn't the big accusation behind spygate and russia hoax witch hunt, the unraveling, etc

[RandomGuy]

https://media.tenor.com/images/83116dac5575fef19f9a39e17984e7bd/tenor.gif

If memory serves, you have claimed repeatedly that the Steele dossier was used to kick all this investigation off. You have said it repeatedly, and loudly.

I guess I could comb through all your old posts to prove that, but I don't think you are worth the effort anymore.

Now it is simply "part of" the justification for the FISA warrant, which no one really doubted.

The IG report you listed stated that there were good reasons, as I have pointed out, to take the dossier somewhat serious to begin with, albeit with fact checking all the way.

My memory in this case was incorrect.

Had to thumb through a bit.

At least one of the polemic walls of text articles implied as much, but TSA's stated opinion was more guarded.


Never said the Steele dossier alone was sufficient to get a FISA warrant.

Went and did what I said I wouldn't, but the facts and truth matter.

[RandomGuy]

he had stated that the dossier was the basis upon which the fisa warrant was applied for/granted, and that is correct


:lol triggered

I already said I think the Steele dossier was used to secure the FISA warrant. You keep trying to push the false narrative that I think the Steele dossier was the sole factor in securing the FISA warrant. I don’t care if the Steele dossier was or wasn’t used for the FISA warrant. I’m more interested in Bruce and Nellie Ohr’s involvement with the Steele dossier. A top DOJ official intimately involved in the opposition research of a candidate is a much bigger story than the dossier itself.

Used, yes, but the sole basis, no.

He did go all up and down about how this was a politically motivated witch hunt. Post after post after post on it.

That shit didn't pan out at all. The big secret conspiracy he was so SURE existed... didn't, and that is a much bigger point to make, IMO.

[Spurs Homer]

Did the OIG slander the FBI today by detailing the lies, omissions, and falsified documents they used to obtain a FISA warrant on Page?


that doesn’t look like an apology

those look like “process crimes”

[RandomGuy]

Big booms coming. (for real this time!)

:rollin

Also from the same thread.

[Peter Strzok]

While Mr. Horowitz has damaged the image of the FBI (another notch in Putin's belt), I commend him for not capitulating to "President" Trump.

The mission lives on.

[spurraider21]

also, what happened to Ohr Shit! consequential errors in judgment. far cry from some politically motivated witch hunt

are they going to prison yet? susan rice? samantha powers?

[DMC]

also, what happened to Ohr Shit!

are they going to prison yet? susan rice? samantha powers?

Michael Flynn?

[spurraider21]

Michael Flynn?
that one has been accused and convicted of a crime

[DMC]

that one has been accused and convicted of a crime

Don't get a hernia moving that goalpost.

[spurraider21]

Don't get a hernia moving that goalpost.
he's awaiting sentencing, genius

[spurraider21]

:lmao but muh lovers lisa and peter

https://i.gyazo.com/8714637a7c429d9f31b9020fce5e7094.png

[spurraider21]

now thats some deep state

[TSA]

i didnt say they acted with complete integrity. i already posted many snippets from the report showing serious wrongdoing on their part. im speaking of integrity strictly in the context of acting in a politically biased manner.

overzealous law enforcement cutting corners to get warrants, unfortunately, is far from scarce. i think you can find misconduct at large if you had the opportunity and resources for an investigation like this after all kinds of criminal inquiries, not just ones of this magnitude. thats not to underplay it or call it "ok." but its not particularly surprising that in something this big, they found issues.

i think the falsification of the emails is a pretty big deal, and that person probably should do time. i dont see any reason why we should look at their initial use of steele as politically motivated. they had worked with him before, and after discussing how to handle the oppo research background of the dossier, decided to go with the footnote. some people thought they should have done more. there was no finding that the footnote was a misrepresentation or omission according to the report, from what i've read

what the OIG laid out today is very important and i'm glad they've recommended all kinds of new procedures which the FBI seems ready to adopt to help prevent further abuses. but they still found that the investigation was launched for proper purposes, with the proper factual predicate, and that at no point did they find that the actions were politically motivated. lets not suddenly act like that wasn't the big accusation behind spygate and russia hoax witch hunt, the unraveling, etc

OIG detailed misrepresentation of footnote

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204113036363157504

[djohn2oo8]

So TSA knows the investigation was justified. What is he bitching about

[TSA]

So TSA knows the investigation was justified. What is he bitching about

Watchdog report rips FBI handling of Russia probe

“We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through the use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny,” Horowitz wrote.

“We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just but those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed,” the inspector general added.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/watchdog-report-rips-fbi-handling-of-russia-probe-078983

[spurraider21]

OIG detailed misrepresentation of footnote

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204113036363157504
umm, thats not was those tweets say

and :lol read the 3 line version at the very bottom of the tweet. thats the version that Steele's handler wanted used. using THAT would have been incredibly misleading. instead they used a revised version which informed the court of his bias. now, its a separate story that they failed to get steele's handler to approve the language they ultimately used.

[TSA]

umm, thats not was those tweets say

and :lol read the 3 line version at the very bottom of the tweet. thats the version that Steele's handler wanted used. using THAT would have been incredibly misleading. instead they used a revised version which informed the court of his bias. now, its a separate story that they failed to get steele's handler to approve the language they ultimately used.

Second tweet. Largest highlighted portion. That was the footnote used in the application. Steele’s information had never been used in a criminal proceeding. FBI straight up lied to FISC.

[TSA]

Which one of you will swallow your pride and admit the Nunes memo was correct?


https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-20180129-SD001.pdf

[TSA]

No FISA Abuse. Lawd!


This claim will go as well as your Trump family going to prison for colluding with Russia :rollin

[Reck]

:lol TSA grasping at straws. Just move on to your next retarded conspiracy and take the loss.

:lol The guy you've been pimping for years shit on your hat with this report. Live with that TSA

[TSA]

3-4 Major publications have all stated his report will find no wrongdoing by the FBI. None. No bias. Everything legal. Oh and No FISA abuse :)

:lmao

[TSA]

:lol TSA grasping at straws. Just move on to your next retarded conspiracy and take the loss.

:lol The guy you've been pimping for years shit on your hat with this report. Live with that TSA

Forum dunce doing forum dunce things per par.

[Reck]

Forum dunce doing forum dunce things per par.

So I take it you're doing as you are told and following the marching orders from the WH not to read or pay attention to this report then?

Good soldier!

[TSA]

:lol TSA grasping at straws. Just move on to your next retarded conspiracy and take the loss.

:lol The guy you've been pimping for years shit on your hat with this report. Live with that TSA



We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through the use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny.

We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just but those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed

:lol

[TSA]

So I take it you're doing as you are told and following the marching orders from the WH not to read or pay attention to this report then?

Good soldier!

Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself, it’s pathetic.

[Reck]

Seriously, stop embarrassing yourself, it’s pathetic.

LOL Cherrypicking.

There were mistakes made along the way but none of the mistakes had to do with helping one side and being against the other like you want it to be about.

There was no FISA abuse.
Everything was appropiate, legal and done through proper channels
Repudiates what Trump has been talking about for years

Horowitz took a dump on your head. Just another L to go along with the L train you got going on ST.

[Winehole23]

i didnt say they acted with complete integrity. i already posted many snippets from the report showing serious wrongdoing on their part. im speaking of integrity strictly in the context of acting in a politically biased manner.

overzealous law enforcement cutting corners to get warrants, unfortunately, is far from scarce. i think you can find misconduct at large if you had the opportunity and resources for an investigation like this after all kinds of criminal inquiries, not just ones of this magnitude. thats not to underplay it or call it "ok." but its not particularly surprising that in something this big, they found issues.

i think the falsification of the emails is a pretty big deal, and that person probably should do time. i dont see any reason why we should look at their initial use of steele as politically motivated. they had worked with him before, and after discussing how to handle the oppo research background of the dossier, decided to go with the footnote. some people thought they should have done more. there was no finding that the footnote was a misrepresentation or omission according to the report, from what i've read

what the OIG laid out today is very important and i'm glad they've recommended all kinds of new procedures which the FBI seems ready to adopt to help prevent further abuses. but they still found that the investigation was launched for proper purposes, with the proper factual predicate, and that at no point did they find that the actions were politically motivated. lets not suddenly act like that wasn't the big accusation behind spygate and russia hoax witch hunt, the unraveling, etcNo bias, good predication, but serious flaws were found.

Having high status investigative targets will tend to expose the squishiness of the system that is merely taken for granted when the targets are not high status.

Lying about what the report says will be a sound tactic again. Most people will rely on other peoples takes.

[Reck]

:lmao but muh lovers lisa and peter

https://i.gyazo.com/8714637a7c429d9f31b9020fce5e7094.png

Wonder why we never saw the anti hillary text up until 3 years later.

[Winehole23]

Asha Rangnappa v. Steve Vladeck on Twitter

1204188032880037888

[TSA]

LOL Cherrypicking.

There were mistakes made along the way but none of the mistakes had to do with helping one side and being against the other like you want it to be about.

There was no FISA abuse.
Everything was appropiate, legal and done through proper channels
Repudiates what Trump has been talking about for years

Horowitz took a dump on your head. Just another L to go along with the L train you got going on ST.

Lied on FISA application multiple times
Lied about Page on FISA application
Omitted exculpatory evidence on FISA application multiple times
Altered and falsified emails submitted for FISA applications


:lol everything was appropriate
:lol there was no FISA abuse

Stop posting, you should be ashamed of putting your stupidity on display.

[Reck]

Lied on FISA application multiple times
Lied about Page on FISA application
Omitted exculpatory evidence on FISA application multiple times
Altered and falsified emails submitted for FISA applications


:lol everything was appropriate
:lol there was no FISA abuse

Stop posting, you should be ashamed of putting your stupidity on display.

Posting like someone who didn't even bother to read a recap of what is in this.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/russia-conspiracy-theories-inspector-general-report-079474

Or do I have to quote the article which breaks down and recaps the report here for you?

Acceptance. Clearly not one of your strong suit.

You're just a hapless idiot.

[Spurs Homer]

comrade TSA spiking the football on another "L"


:rollin:rollin

COMEY
MCCABE
OHR
STROCK
PAGE
GPS FUSION
STEELE
DEEEP STATE!!!
Biggest hoax in history
A COUP to take down a president



None of those in jail. None of that happened.
Instead



a couple of process crimes - a fucking NOTHING-BERDER!!!!


:elephant:elephant:elephant

[TSA]

Posting like someone who didn't even bother to read a recap of what is in this.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/russia-conspiracy-theories-inspector-general-report-079474

Or do I have to quote the article which breaks down and recaps the report here for you?

Acceptance. Clearly not one of your strong suit.

You're just a hapless idiot.

forum dunce thinking that is a recap of the report :lol

[spurraider21]

Second tweet. Largest highlighted portion. That was the footnote used in the application. Steele’s information had never been used in a criminal proceeding. FBI straight up lied to FISC.
“As noted later in this chapter, while Steele had previously provided information to the FBI that helped the FBI further criminal investigations, his reporting had never been used in a criminal proceeding.”

inaccurate to be sure. the effect of calling them criminal proceedings instead of just referring to them as investigations? far from the most significant thing they did wrong

we also know of the footnote where they inform them that the dossier was political oppo research aimed at discrediting trump, which informs the court of the bias in the dossier

[Reck]

comrade TSA spiking the football on another "L"


:rollin:rollin

COMEY
MCCABE
OHR
STROCK
PAGE
GPS FUSION
STEELE
DEEEP STATE!!!
Biggest hoax in history
A COUP to take down a president



None of those in jail. None of that happened.
Instead



a couple of process crimes - a fucking NOTHING-BERDER!!!!


:elephant:elephant:elephant


Imagine finding out that Strzok and Page were nothing more than lowly agents with zero pull.
Imagine that there were a litany of FBI agents shitting and badmouthing Hillary via text
Imagine TSA finding out that there was no spying or wiretapping going on.
Imagine finding out that what you been posting for years about Mifsud was never even a thing.

TSA life sucks. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Yeah. Did Horowitz actually cite the words FISA abuse? :lol

[TSA]

Imagine finding out that Strzok and Page were nothing more than lowly agents with zero pull.
Imagine that there were a litany of FBI agents shitting and badmouthing Hillary via text
Imagine TSA finding out that there was no spying or wiretapping going on.
Imagine finding out that what you been posting for years about Mifsud was never even a thing.

TSA life sucks. :lol Peter Paul Strzok II is a former United States Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) agent. Strzok was the Chief of the Counterespionage Section and led the FBI's investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a personal email server.

Strzok rose to become a Deputy Assistant Director (one of several) of the Counterintelligence Division, the second-highest position in that division. He also led the FBI's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 United States elections.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Strzok

just stop you fucking tard :lmao

[boutons_deux]

LG is as fucked in the head as Trash

Graham: FBI investigation in 2016 turned into a 'criminal conspiracy'

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/473745-graham-fbi-investigation-in-2016-turned-into-a-criminal-conspiracy

[TSA]

Yeah. Did Horowitz actually cite the words FISA abuse? :lol

Actually say? No.
Completely convey? Yes.

“We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through the use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny,” Horowitz wrote.

“We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just but those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed,” the inspector general added.

[TSA]

also, what happened to Ohr Shit! consequential errors in judgment. far cry from some politically motivated witch hunt

are they going to prison yet? susan rice? samantha powers?

While Horowitz stopped short of recommending Ohr for a criminal referral, the DOJ inspector general spent more than 36 pages of the report singling out the bureaucrat for circumventing his supervisors and referred Ohr to the Office of Professional Responsibility. Horowitz also referred Ohr’s actions to his supervisors in the criminal justice division, leaving the door open to future criminal prosecution.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/09/doj-ig-report-slams-bruce-ohrs-failure-to-report-repeated-interactions-with-steele/#.Xe7WqKexCNY.twitter

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1204140024146661377

[TSA]

Which one of you will swallow your pride and admit the Nunes memo was correct?


https://docs.house.gov/meetings/IG/IG00/20180129/106822/HMTG-115-IG00-20180129-SD001.pdf

https://mobile.twitter.com/EliLake/status/1204218149274619911

:lol lying piece of Schitt and you all swallowed it whole

[Reck]

All the back to back to back posts are sure not a sign of desperation, eh TSA?

Also still hasn't read the report wherein Page and Strzok were completely exonarated of bias or even being these two people with tremendous power within the investigation.

[boutons_deux]

https://mobile.twitter.com/EliLake/status/1204218149274619911

:lol lying piece of Schitt and you all swallowed it whole

Lake has an asshole and an opinion

[spurraider21]

While Horowitz stopped short of recommending Ohr for a criminal referral, the DOJ inspector general spent more than 36 pages of the report singling out the bureaucrat for circumventing his supervisors and referred Ohr to the Office of Professional Responsibility. Horowitz also referred Ohr’s actions to his supervisors in the criminal justice division, leaving the door open to future criminal prosecution.

https://thefederalist.com/2019/12/09/doj-ig-report-slams-bruce-ohrs-failure-to-report-repeated-interactions-with-steele/#.Xe7WqKexCNY.twitter
singling out

woof

from what you and chris were posting about him i thought he'd be in more trouble than getting a stern talking to

[TSA]

All the back to back to back posts are sure not a sign of desperation, eh TSA?

Also still hasn't read the report wherein Page and Strzok were completely exonarated of bias or even being these two people with tremendous power within the investigation.

Strzok led the investigation therefore Strzok didn’t have power within the investigation

forum dunce logic 101 :rollin

[TSA]

singling out

woof

from what you and chris were posting about him i thought he'd be in more trouble than getting a stern talking to

You think this is all over because the IG report was released? lol

[DarrinS]

Crossfire Hurricane was pretty damn sketchy. The case was flimsy at best, lol "low threshold for predication". And the FISA process was abused.

Susan Rice's email to herself makes so much more sense now. Even she knew this was some shady shit. :lol

[djohn2oo8]

What happened to the report was going to be devastating?

[djohn2oo8]

Crossfire Hurricane was pretty damn sketchy. The case was flimsy at best, lol "low threshold for predication". And the FISA process was abused.

Susan Rice's email to herself makes so much more sense now. Even she knew this was some shady shit. :lol
Yeah so sketchy that people went to jail. Dipshit Darrin strikes again

[DarrinS]

What happened to the report was going to be devastating?

It was.

[djohn2oo8]

It was.
Not for who you think :lol

[spurraider21]

Strzok led the investigation therefore Strzok didn’t have power within the investigation

forum dunce logic 101 :rollin

In this review, we found that, while LisaPage attended some of the discussions regarding theopening of the investigations, she did not play a role inthe decision to open Crossfire Hurricane or the fourindividual cases. We further found that while Strzokwas directly involved in the decisions to open CrossfireHurricane and the four individual cases, he was not thesole, or even the highest-level, decision maker as toany of those matters. As noted above, then CD ADPriestap, Strzok's supervisor, was the official whoultimately made the decision to open the investigation,and evidence reflected that this decision by Priestapwas reached by consensus after multiple days ofdiscussions and meetings that included Strzok andother leadership in CD, the FBI Deputy Director, the FBIGeneral Counsel, and a FBI Deputy General Counsel.We concluded that Priestap's exercise of discretion inopening the investigation was in compliance withDepartment and FBI policies, and we did not finddocumentary or testimonial evidence that political biasor improper motivation influenced his decision. Wesimilarly found that, while the formal documentationopening each of the four individual investigations wasapproved by Strzok (as required by the DIOG), the Executive SummaryReview of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI's CrossfireHurricane Investigationdecisions to do so were reached by a consensus amongthe Crossfire "Hurricane agents and analysts whoidentified individuals associated with the Trumpcampaign who had recently traveled to Russia or hadother alleged ties to Russia. Priestap was involved inthese decisions. We did not find documentary ortestimonial evidence that political bias or impropermotivation influenced the decisions to open the fourindividual investigations

[DarrinS]

Yeah so sketchy that people went to jail. Dipshit Darrin strikes again

Who went to jail for conspiring with Russia?

[djohn2oo8]

Who went to jail for conspiring with Russia?
Stone is going :lol

[djohn2oo8]

Wikileaks. Guccifer 2.0.

[ChumpDumper]

Crossfire Hurricane was pretty damn sketchy. The case was flimsy at best, lol "low threshold for predication". And the FISA process was abused.

Susan Rice's email to herself makes so much more sense now. Even she knew this was some shady shit. :lolDo you think Trump is a good President, Darrin?

[ChumpDumper]

Who went to jail for conspiring with Russia?Multiple felonies.

Why is Trump surrounded by felons?

Do you think he's a good President?