Horowitz has found Carter Page FISA Warrant was legal

[djohn2oo8]

Manafort literally went to jail for conspiring with a Russian Spy

[Reck]

It was.

Damn this is what happens when you're tune into Fox News 24/7.

Darrins: LOL dems backfire

Rest of the world: Welp, Trump told many many lies and they were just exposed...who'd thunk it?

[DarrinS]

Manafort literally went to jail for conspiring with a Russian Spy

White collar crimes preceding the 2016 election. Try harder.

[djohn2oo8]

White collar crimes preceding the 2016 election. Try harder.
He was committing them while with the Trump campaign.

[djohn2oo8]

Darrin in the Stone Age

[DarrinS]

Damn this is what happens when you're tune into Fox News 24/7.

Darrins: LOL dems backfire

Rest of the world: Welp, Trump told many many lies and they were just exposed...who'd thunk it?


:lol

At least you try

:lol

[ElNono]

1204119153411600385

I thought she would be in jail today, tbh

[DarrinS]

He was committing them while with the Trump campaign.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4781622-Paul-Manafort-verdict-form.html


Manafort hired March 2016, so I guess you get one count by a hair. :lol

[ChumpDumper]

:lol imagine how hard Darrin would lose his shit if Black President had anything close to the scandals surrounding and involving Dennison.

[DarrinS]

I thought she would be in jail today, tbh

I didn't think she would be.

[ElNono]

:lol TechnoGoof, whoever that is, in full spin mode today

Srsly, what I liked about this report, is that it apparently will trigger other investigations into FISA applications, which is only good.

[spurraider21]

seriously though can we investigate these people for political bias in their decision making? i'm very concerned about the integrity of the FBI and the prevalence of the deep state doing the president's bidding

https://i.gyazo.com/8714637a7c429d9f31b9020fce5e7094.png

[ElNono]

I didn't think she would be.

Maybe my memory is failing me, but I recall some people saying to wait for the IG report, that Page and Strok would be end up in jail...

[pgardn]

Manafort lobbied on behalf of foreign leaders such as former President of Ukraine (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ukraine)Viktor Yanukovych (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych), former dictator of the Philippines (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines)Ferdinand Marcos (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos), former dictator of Zaire (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaire)Mobutu Sese Seko (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobutu_Sese_Seko), and Angolan (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola)guerrilla (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare)leader (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNITA)Jonas Savimbi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Savimbi).

Dude is a patriot.
Chair of the Trump campaign for president.
Standup Guy.
While awaiting trial he obstructed justice through witness tampering.

Only the best people.
Thank you red team.

[DarrinS]

:lol imagine how hard Darrin would lose his shit if Black President had anything close to the scandals surrounding and involving Dennison.



His presidency was scandal free. :lmao

[ElNono]

seriously though can we investigate these people for political bias in their decision making? i'm very concerned about the integrity of the FBI and the prevalence of the deep state doing the president's bidding

https://i.gyazo.com/8714637a7c429d9f31b9020fce5e7094.png

You trolling, right? :lol

[DarrinS]

Maybe my memory is failing me, but I recall some people saying to wait for the IG report, that Page and Strok would be end up in jail...


Wasn't me

[TSA]

Damn this is what happens when you're tune into Fox News 24/7.

Darrins: LOL dems backfire

Rest of the world: Welp, Trump told many many lies and they were just exposed...who'd thunk it?

Politico is as bad as Fox

Watchdog report rips FBI handling of Russia probe

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/watchdog-report-rips-fbi-handling-of-russia-probe-078983

[ChumpDumper]

His presidency was scandal free. :lmaoWhat do you consider Black President's biggest scandals?

And do you think Trump is a good President?

[ElNono]

Politico is as bad as Fox

Watchdog report rips FBI handling of Russia probe

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/watchdog-report-rips-fbi-handling-of-russia-probe-078983

While you're there, don't forget to read:

Here are the Russia probe conspiracy theories debunked by the DOJ inspector general report

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/russia-conspiracy-theories-inspector-general-report-079474

[spurraider21]

You trolling, right? :lol
you're usually a lot better at this, tbh, what with all the <3 derozan threads :lol

[spurraider21]

What do you consider Black President's biggest scandals?
spygate!

[ElNono]

you're usually a lot better at this, tbh, what with all the <3 derozan threads :lol

<3<3<3 :lol

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MonsieurAmerica/status/1204198332752482306

Fascinating read on background and tradecraft of Page even while under FISA warrant.

[TSA]

While you're there, don't forget to read:

Here are the Russia probe conspiracy theories debunked by the DOJ inspector general report

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/09/russia-conspiracy-theories-inspector-general-report-079474

Thanks for reposting Reck’s recap of the report :lol

[DarrinS]

Manafort lobbied on behalf of foreign leaders such as former President of Ukraine (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Ukraine) Viktor Yanukovych (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yanukovych), former dictator of the Philippines (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philippines) Ferdinand Marcos (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferdinand_Marcos), former dictator of Zaire (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaire) Mobutu Sese Seko (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobutu_Sese_Seko), and Angolan (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angola) guerrilla (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guerrilla_warfare) leader (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/UNITA) Jonas Savimbi (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonas_Savimbi).

Dude is a patriot.
Chair of the Trump campaign for president.
Standup Guy.
While awaiting trial he obstructed justice through witness tampering.

Only the best people.



Manafort is a shady dude -- no doubt. Currently serving for bank and tax fraud.

[ElNono]

Thanks for reposting Reck’s recap of the report :lol

sorry, tried to catch up with the thread, but don't have the time!


But, ya'll niglets need to come to an understanding, both sides can't claim victory! :lol

[DarrinS]

What do you consider Black President's biggest scandals?

And do you think Trump is a good President?


Oh, I don't know, maybe the one they made a movie about.

[ElNono]

Manafort is a shady dude -- no doubt. Currently serving for bank and tax fraud.

How about Flynn, Cohen, Stone... heck, Rudy? Not shady? I tell you this guy has some sort of magnet for criminals.

[spurraider21]

Oh, I don't know, maybe the one they made a movie about.
dinesh d'souza?

[spurraider21]

How about Flynn, Cohen, Stone... heck, Rudy? Not shady? I tell you this guy has some sort of magnet for criminals.
crazy how rudy has gone full heel. dude was the ballsiest prosecutor of the century going after the mob the way he did. how he's just a sycophant throwing himself in front of moving buses just to help dear leader

[DarrinS]

How about Flynn, Cohen, Stone... heck, Rudy? Not shady? I tell you this guy has some sort of magnet for criminals.


What crime did Rudy commit?

[ElNono]

crazy how rudy has gone full heel. dude was the ballsiest prosecutor of the century going after the mob the way he did. how he's just a sycophant throwing himself in front of moving buses just to help dear leader

Rudy knows he's can't untie himself from the Ukrainians, and they're gonna sing like little birds... just a matter of time for him.

[ElNono]

What crime did Rudy commit?

see my previous post (admittedly, pure speculation)

[pgardn]

Manafort is a shady dude -- no doubt. Currently serving for bank and tax fraud.

He was paid to lobby the US government by dictators of numerous bad acting countries.
And then he became the chair of Trump’s election campaign?
Makes for a nice resume for a wannabe dictator.

Thank you red team.

And now we have a president ask a foreign country and it’s newly elected president to investigate corruption? Oh that’s all it was, has nothing to do with Biden... Our president is just rooting out corruption in a foreign country and he just happens to find Biden’s son?

Who are we fckn kidding here?

Just get rid of the orange plague and start over. The blue team has not exactly got a team together. The Senate needs to get rid of this orange colored clown. Do your job after the House sends you the stamped ticket.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mtracey/status/1204129519529013248

Serving up all this crow is getting almost getting boring :lol

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mtracey/status/1204129519529013248

Serving up all this crow is getting almost getting boring :lol

jk I’m not bored yet

https://mobile.twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1204200902694850560

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1204200907333754880

https://mobile.twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1204200910986964993

[DarrinS]

Just get rid of the orange plague and start over. The blue team has not exactly got a team together.


That's quite the admission.

[Reck]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mtracey/status/1204129519529013248

Serving up all this crow is getting almost getting boring :lol

A feat considering the following:


The FBI began its investigation at the end of July 2016, based on a tip it received days before about a Trump campaign adviser, George Papadopoulos, from a foreign ally.


While Steele’s reporting for what became the dossier began prior to the opening of the Russia probe, Horowitz found that the team of investigators at the FBI “did not become aware of Steele‘s election reporting” until weeks after the investigation had already begun, concluding that the dossier “played no role” in the probe being opened.

[spurraider21]

A feat considering the following:
they're both right

investigation started in july before they knew of steele dossier

however, FISA warrant wasn't applied for until after they got the steele dossier, and the application did rely heavily on the steele dossier

prior to receiving the steele dossier, FBI knew they didnt have the appropriate PC to obtain a warrant so they didn't apply for one

[DarrinS]

dinesh d'souza?


Michael Bay

[ChumpDumper]

Oh, I don't know, maybe the one they made a movie about.Use your words, Darrin.

What is Black President's biggest scandal?

[ChumpDumper]

Michael BaySeriously?

[Reck]

Use your words, Darrin.

What is Black President's biggest scandal?

My personal favorite has always been the brown suit. The gulls on that young black man.

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/mtracey/status/1204129519529013248

Serving up all this crow is getting almost getting boring :lol:lmao sure you're not tired from moving your goalpost and kicking the can at the same time?

[ChumpDumper]

My personal favorite has always been the brown suit. The gulls on that young black man.Uppity mustard choice.

[spurraider21]

Michael Bay
ah yes the one with multiple congressional investigations that went virtually nowhere, and were overtly political to the point where a republican representative was on national TV bragging about how the select committee investigation was hurting hillary's poll numbers

[ChumpDumper]

Michael BayWho went to prison for that one, Darrin?

Any charges at all?

[DarrinS]

Who went to prison for that one, Darrin?

Any charges at all?


The guy who made the "internet video". Lolz

[ChumpDumper]

The guy who made the "internet video". LolzDarrin's got jokes.

I do think there should have been better security and the ambassador should've just gone home that night.

So nothing like Dennison's scandals.:tu

[DarrinS]

Darrin's got jokes.

I do think there should have been better security and the ambassador should've just gone home that night.

So nothing like Dennison's scandals.:tu



Sad that Shillary was still pushing YouTube theory with caskets behind her in the hangar.

[ChumpDumper]

Sad that Shillary was still pushing YouTube theory with caskets behind her in the hangar.You can make jokes about the dead Americans now tho.:tu

Do you think Trump is a good President?

[DarrinS]

You can make jokes about the dead Americans now tho.:tu

Do you think Trump is a good President?


Scandal free

[Spurs Homer]

How many years in prison for

Comey?
mccabe?
ohr?
strock?
page?
susan rice?
obama?



anyone?


:rollin:rollin

[DarrinS]

We can add IG report and upcoming Durham report to the scandal free list.

[ChumpDumper]

Scandal freeWho do you think has had the worse scandals, Darrin?

Trump or Black President?

[ChumpDumper]

We can add IG report and upcoming Durham report to the scandal free list.Are you this passive aggressive in real life?

[ElNono]

jk I’m not bored yet

https://mobile.twitter.com/KimStrassel/status/1204200902694850560

Doesn't the IG report states that there was no abuse of the FISA process, despite whatever errors the FBI might've commited?

[DarrinS]

Doesn't the IG report states that there was no abuse of the FISA process, despite whatever errors the FBI might've commited?

Wut?

[DMC]

also, what happened to Ohr Shit! consequential errors in judgment. far cry from some politically motivated witch hunt

are they going to prison yet? susan rice? samantha powers?


that one has been accused and convicted of a crime


he's awaiting sentencing, genius

:lol

[ElNono]

Wut?

Wut what? What you don't understand about that question?

Page 376:
"Although we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on the part of the case agents who assisted 01 in preparing the applications, or the agents and supervisors who performed the Woods Procedures, we also did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or missing information".

That doesn't mean there were not errors in the process, which the IG described at length and recommended fixes for, but an abuse is intentional.

[ElNono]

also, what happened to Ohr Shit! consequential errors in judgment. far cry from some politically motivated witch hunt

are they going to prison yet? susan rice? samantha powers?

“The FBI‘s Delta files contain no evidence that Mifsud has ever acted as an FBI CHS and none of the witnesses we interviewed or documents we reviewed had any information to support such an allegation,“ the report reads.

I think I read that name here before... pretty sure he was in some conspiratard theory from the Twetteratzi...

[TSA]

Asha Rangnappa v. Steve Vladeck on Twitter

1204188032880037888

Asha is such a wealth of knowledge when it comes to FISA :lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1136305351366762496

[TSA]

“The FBI‘s Delta files contain no evidence that Mifsud has ever acted as an FBI CHS and none of the witnesses we interviewed or documents we reviewed had any information to support such an allegation,“ the report reads.

I think I read that name here before... pretty sure he was in some conspiratard theory from the Twetteratzi...

:lol passive aggressive straw man

[ElNono]

:lol passive aggressive straw man

???? Did you post about Misfud? :lol

[TSA]

Wut what? What you don't understand about that question?

Page 376:
"Although we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on the part of the case agents who assisted 01 in preparing the applications, or the agents and supervisors who performed the Woods Procedures, we also did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or missing information".

That doesn't mean there were not errors in the process, which the IG described at length and recommended fixes for, but an abuse is intentional.

Mr Horowitz I did not intentionally remove the lines of the email from the CIA that said Carter Page was a vetted CIA asset. I made an error and somehow accidentally changed the email to read that Carter Page was not an asset of a sister agency.
Unfortunately I passed this accidentally altered email of for the signing of a FISA renewal. My bad. Again, all unintentional.

[TSA]

???? Did you post about Misfud? :lol

:lol not as being an FBI CHS

[ElNono]

Mr Horowitz I did not intentionally remove the lines of the email from the CIA that said Carter Page was a vetted CIA asset. I made an error and somehow accidentally changed the email to read that Carter Page was not an asset of a sister agency.
Unfortunately I passed this accidentally altered email of for the signing of a FISA renewal. My bad. Again, all unintentional.

Is that part of the report? I can't seem to find it. Can you post the page number? I want to make sure you're not making stuff up again.

[ElNono]

:lol not as being an FBI CHS

Like I said, I don't recall who posted about him, just that I've seen that name from the fringe...

[ChumpDumper]

Asha is such a wealth of knowledge when it comes to FISA :lol

https://mobile.twitter.com/AshaRangappa_/status/1136305351366762496:lol you shit yourself whenever I asked you what it takes to renew a FISA warrant.

Rube.

[TSA]

Appendix 1 identifies the total violations by the FBI of the so-called Woods Procedures, the process by which the bureau verifies information and assures the FISA court its evidence is true.

The Appendix identifies a total of 51 Woods procedure violations from the FISA application the FBI submitted to the court authorizing surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page starting in October 2016.

A whopping nine of those violations fell into the category called: “Supporting document shows that the factual assertion is
inaccurate.”

https://johnsolomonreports.com/just-how-bad-was-the-fbis-russia-fisa-51-violations-and-9-false-statements/

[ChumpDumper]

:lol passive aggressive straw manYou ever figure out which country you want to say he worked for?

[ChumpDumper]

Appendix 1 identifies the total violations by the FBI of the so-called Woods Procedures, the process by which the bureau verifies information and assures the FISA court its evidence is true.

The Appendix identifies a total of 51 Woods procedure violations from the FISA application the FBI submitted to the court authorizing surveillance of former Trump campaign aide Carter Page starting in October 2016.

A whopping nine of those violations fell into the category called: “Supporting document shows that the factual assertion is
inaccurate.”

https://johnsolomonreports.com/just-how-bad-was-the-fbis-russia-fisa-51-violations-and-9-false-statements/S:rollinl:rollinm:rollinn

Rube.

[ElNono]

He was right about muh woods though, you gotta give him that...

Just a shame that so many conspiracies were hanging from this report and it didn't deliver, tbh... :(

[Reck]

The guy who made the "internet video". Lolz

Are you not 50 or so years old, Darrin?

Not age shaming here just want to know what 50 year old dude says lolz.

[Spurs Homer]

Anyone have a list of posters here who fell for this right wing hannity/trump/barr hoax?

no coup
no biggest scandal in american history
no victim president
no spying
no rogue fbi deep state


just a hoax by a criminal who keeps lying to cover up his unpatriotic behavior and his teaming up with russians to steal the 2016 election and is plotting to steal the 2020 election.


anyone have a list other than

comrade TSA
Qhrispiracy
?
?
?



someone expose these unpatriotic retards

[benefactor]

Are you not 50 or so years old, Darrin?

Not age shaming here just want to know what 50 year old dude says lolz.
:lol

[boutons_deux]

Will Wray be fired?

Trump’s FBI director sharply breaks with the president as new fissures erupt in the Justice Department

FBI Director Christopher Wray —

who was installed in his position after President Donald Trump fired James Comey, the event that launched Robert Mueller’s investigation —

sharply broke with the White House and Attorney General Bill Barr on Monday over the new inspector general report (https://www.justice.gov/storage/120919-examination.pdf).

Wray, on the other hand, backed up Horowitz in an interview and defended the bureau.

“The inspector general did not find political bias or improper motivations impacting the opening of the investigation or the decision to use certain investigative tools during the investigations … including FISA.”

He emphasized, in stark contrast to Barr and Durham, that

the FBI “fully accept[s]” the results of the IG’s report.

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-fbi-director-sharply-breaks-with-the-president-as-new-fissures-erupt-in-the-justice-department/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3194&recip_id=298460&list_id=1 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/trumps-fbi-director-sharply-breaks-with-the-president-as-new-fissures-erupt-in-the-justice-department/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3194&recip_id=298460&list_id=1)

[boutons_deux]

Did Trump just signal he may fire ‘current’ FBI director hours before meeting Russian foreign minister?

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Trump-Lavrov-1024x683-2.jpg


President Donald Trump attacked his FBI director hours ahead of his White House meeting with Russian foreign minister Sergey Lavrov,

Donald J. Trump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)✔@realDonaldTrump
(https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump)
I don’t know what report current Director of the FBI Christopher Wray was reading,

but it sure wasn’t the one given to me.

With that kind of attitude,

he will never be able to fix the FBI,

which is badly broken despite having some of the greatest men & women working there!

6:16 AM - Dec 10, 2019 (https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1204374382715506690)


https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/did-trump-just-signal-he-may-fire-current-fbi-director-hours-before-meeting-russian-foreign-minister/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3194 (https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/did-trump-just-signal-he-may-fire-current-fbi-director-hours-before-meeting-russian-foreign-minister/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3194)

[TSA]

Is that part of the report? I can't seem to find it. Can you post the page number? I want to make sure you're not making stuff up again.

Not sure if serious...and I thought the sarcastic paraphrasing was obvious.

"Supervisory Special Agent 2," who swore to an affidavit for all three FISA renewals against Page in 2017, told Horowitz's investigators that on the third renewal he wanted "a definitive answer to whether Page had ever been a source for another U.S. government agency before he signed the final renewal application."

While in contact with what was reportedly the CIA's liaison, Clinesmith was reminded that back in August 2016, predating the first Page warrant application in October 2016, the other agency informed the FBI that Page "did, in fact, have a prior relationship with that other agency."

An email from the other government agency's liaison was sent to Clinesmith, who then "altered the liaison's email by inserting the words 'not a source' into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was 'not a source' for the other agency" and sent it to "Supervisory Special Agent 2," Horowitz found.

"Relying upon this altered email, [Clinesmith] signed the third renewal application that again failed to disclose Page's past relationship with the other agency," Horowitz wrote.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-lawyer-under-criminal-investigation-altered-document-to-say-carter-page-was-not-a-source-for-another-agency

You still claiming there was no intentional FISA abuse?

[Spurs Homer]

Not sure if serious...and I thought the sarcastic paraphrasing was obvious.

"Supervisory Special Agent 2," who swore to an affidavit for all three FISA renewals against Page in 2017, told Horowitz's investigators that on the third renewal he wanted "a definitive answer to whether Page had ever been a source for another U.S. government agency before he signed the final renewal application."

While in contact with what was reportedly the CIA's liaison, Clinesmith was reminded that back in August 2016, predating the first Page warrant application in October 2016, the other agency informed the FBI that Page "did, in fact, have a prior relationship with that other agency."

An email from the other government agency's liaison was sent to Clinesmith, who then "altered the liaison's email by inserting the words 'not a source' into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was 'not a source' for the other agency" and sent it to "Supervisory Special Agent 2," Horowitz found.

"Relying upon this altered email, [Clinesmith] signed the third renewal application that again failed to disclose Page's past relationship with the other agency," Horowitz wrote.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-lawyer-under-criminal-investigation-altered-document-to-say-carter-page-was-not-a-source-for-another-agency

You still claiming there was no intentional FISA abuse?


which one of the rogue agents on your list is going to prison for this?

mcabe?
comey?
strock?
ohr?




:rollin:rollin:lmao
surely this is not just a process crime but a serious act of treason amirite?

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1204445486322728967?s=19

[Spurs Homer]

https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1204445486322728967?s=19


not wasting time on your propaganda- but-

fyi;

your cult’s attacks on schiff are failing badly

shiff has been killing it lately and he got your cult traitor flailing around begging everyone and anyone for affirmation

[Chris]

not wasting time on your propaganda- but-

fyi;

your cult’s attacks on schiff are failing badly

shiff has been killing it lately and he got your cult traitor flailing around begging everyone and anyone for affirmation

not wasting my time on your hyperbole troll

now go on get

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/EpochTimes/status/1204448248917905410?s=19

"The Hillary Clinton campaign and the Democratic National Committee ultimately paid for Steele’s work, a fact the FBI did not disclose in the warrant application."

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1204445882868998146?s=19

[TheGreatYacht]

FBI Lied To FISA Court In Russiagate Investigation

https://youtu.be/Lb0gyt9Vriw

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1204453603659923456?s=19

[ChumpDumper]

:lol this did not go the way you wanted

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/mitchellvii/status/1204453603659923456?s=19
Can i get a courtesy heads up as to who you will kick the can to after Durham?

[Winehole23]

What world is this, department heads are usually happy when investigators report their officers have not committed any crimes.

[spurraider21]

:lol this did not go the way you wanted
Of course it did!


have patience
horowitz and mueller
walls are closing in
soon
some people will get a stern talking to

q

[Spurs Homer]

What a shitty interviewer pete williams is...on msnbc

after barr lies his fucking ass off and sounds like a complete conspiritard

not ONE tough question...like...

why the fuck did EVERY trump team asshole LIE about their russian contacts and was this NOT enough for ANY law enforcement to continue investigating?

trump invited the russians to hack the server of an american- why should the fbi NOT investigate this?

trump took russias side in helsinki- why would the intel agencies NOT be alarmed and wonder if trump has been compromised?
yet you are condemning the FBI for continuing to investigate trump after he was already president?

piece of shit lying traitor barr and fuck pete williams/msnbc

[djohn2oo8]

Can i get a courtesy heads up as to who you will kick the can to after Durham?
Barr in his shitty interview pushed the can to the Spring or Summer

[boutons_deux]

‘Banana Republic stuff’:

Experts tear Bill Barr to pieces for calling

FBI a bigger threat than Russia to elections

Attorney General Bill Barr’s NBC News interview attacking the FBI (http://rawstory.com/2019/12/bill-barr-attacks-fbi-for-bad-faith-probe-of-trump-campaign-in-bonkers-interview/)

stunned many legal and government experts on Tuesday.

After Barr criticized Inspector General Michael Horowitz’s finding that the FBI’s investigations into the Trump campaign’s contacts with Russian agents during the 2016 presidential election was justified,

he also accused the FBI of running a “bad faith” investigation and said

actions like that represent the biggest threat to the integrity of American elections.

“The Attorney General is saying that the FBI is a bigger threat to the United States than Russia,” he wrote on Twitter (https://twitter.com/donmoyn/status/1204455433311866882?s=21).

“This is banana republic stuff.”

“The whole reason why we have Inspectors General is for cases in which there’s reason to doubt that political appointees can be fair decisionmakers,” he wrote (https://twitter.com/steve_vladeck/status/1204452049158594560).

“The Attorney General taking this position is proof only of why that independence is so important — and why this wasn’t up to him.”

“Bill Barr went full Michael Cohen/Roy Cohn in this interview,”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/banana-republic-stuff-experts-tear-bill-barr-to-pieces-for-calling-fbi-a-bigger-threat-than-russia-to-elections/?utm_source=&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=3203

[spurraider21]

1197882409238368256


1197983936330252289


1198008290426458112


1199776157794738178
WaPo and NYT were right tbh

muh cia mouthpiece
muh fake news
muh fake democrat leaks
muh spin control
muh mockingbird media

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/paulsperry_/status/1202615417015033856?s=19

sorry if this was posted but seems pretty serious
would be pretty serious tbh

can you direct me to the page of the report where we hear about these criminal investigations?

[TSA]

WaPo and NYT were right tbh

muh cia mouthpiece
muh fake news
muh fake democrat leaks
muh spin control
muh mockingbird media

muh woods procedures
muh exculpatory evidence
muh altered documents
muh FISA abuse

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/JusticeOIG/status/1204521306659737600

[spurraider21]

FBI Lied To FISA Court In Russiagate Investigation

https://youtu.be/Lb0gyt9Vriw
:lol this nut doesnt know what he's talking about

:cry you go to a judge without them being able to raise a defense and get a warrant based on what the FBI presents :cry

:lmao that's exactly how every warrant works, not just fisa :lmao... you think you get a defense attorney to contest warrant applications?

then he says the page fisa warrant let them put a wiretap on "the trump administration"... so much wrong

[spurraider21]

muh woods procedures
muh exculpatory evidence
muh altered documents
muh FISA abuse
hey hey, i have officially removed the "muh" from woods procedures :lol

and lets not forget what you originally claimed would be the results of the horowitz investigation/report :lol


The unlawful exoneration of Hillary Clinton by political operatives in the DOJ/FBI.

The unlawful destruction of evidence; and the manipulation of investigative protocols to gain a specific and pre-planned political outcome. (Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe)

The unlawful use of the FISA court for political spy operations by the DOJ/FBI.

The unlawful use of the Dept of Justice National Security Division. For weaponized political benefit. (Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, Bruce Ohr)

The unlawful use of the FBI Counterintelligence Division. For weaponized political benefit. (James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, James Baker)

The unlawful use of a Special Counsel (Mueller) investigation to hide the conspiracy; (James Baker, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Andrew Weissman, Jeannie Rhee, Aaron Zebley

but were the WaPo and NYT articles accurate?

[ChumpDumper]

would be pretty serious tbh

can you direct me to the page of the report where we hear about these criminal investigations?That's the total for every investigation they are doing.

Also possible they aren't all even from the investigation Perry is referring to. Looks like the stats are from the OIG semi annual report. Not going to dig through all 76 pages to see where he got the numbers from.

https://oig.justice.gov/semiannual/1911.pdf
search for "104"

[ElNono]

Not sure if serious...and I thought the sarcastic paraphrasing was obvious.

"Supervisory Special Agent 2," who swore to an affidavit for all three FISA renewals against Page in 2017, told Horowitz's investigators that on the third renewal he wanted "a definitive answer to whether Page had ever been a source for another U.S. government agency before he signed the final renewal application."

While in contact with what was reportedly the CIA's liaison, Clinesmith was reminded that back in August 2016, predating the first Page warrant application in October 2016, the other agency informed the FBI that Page "did, in fact, have a prior relationship with that other agency."

An email from the other government agency's liaison was sent to Clinesmith, who then "altered the liaison's email by inserting the words 'not a source' into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was 'not a source' for the other agency" and sent it to "Supervisory Special Agent 2," Horowitz found.

"Relying upon this altered email, [Clinesmith] signed the third renewal application that again failed to disclose Page's past relationship with the other agency," Horowitz wrote.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/fbi-lawyer-under-criminal-investigation-altered-document-to-say-carter-page-was-not-a-source-for-another-agency

You still claiming there was no intentional FISA abuse?

Of course. I mean, Horowitz went through all the evidence first hand and came to that conclusion. I don’t have any elements to dispute that.

[ElNono]

Who’s starting the Lisa Page is doing awesome thread, tbh? I just heard she sued the DOJ and FBI over the leaked texts. Not only not going to jail, she gunna get paaaaid!

[DarrinS]

Who’s starting the Lisa Page is doing awesome thread, tbh? I just heard she sued the DOJ and FBI over the leaked texts. Not only not going to jail, she gunna get paaaaid!

There's another person named Page who should sue.

[ChumpDumper]

There's another person named Page who should sue.Whom should he sue and on what legal grounds?

[Spurs Homer]

There's another person named Page who should sue.

Im not sure if page saying:

I was wronged and accused of being a russian agent just because...

i went to russia, hung out with russians, gave speeches against the usa and its policies and championed russia’s policies

then joined a presidential campaign where there were over 100 russian/trump team contacts and 100% of those contacts went unreported...

then when we got caught - we all lied about it, tried to cover it up and a few of the campaign team are in prison now...


but but


i was wronged for no good reason. The IG report recently confirmed the FBI had no bias also - but hannity thinks i should sue!


does not sound like a winning case...

[spurraider21]

the remedy for a faulty warrant is to have that evidence excluded during criminal proceedings. carter page hasnt faced any charges, so he hasn't suffered any cognizable harm from the warrant.

[DarrinS]

Im not sure if page saying:

I was wronged and accused of being a russian agent just because...

i went to russia, hung out with russians, gave speeches against the usa and its policies and championed russia’s policies

then joined a presidential campaign where there were over 100 russian/trump team contacts and 100% of those contacts went unreported...

then when we got caught - we all lied about it, tried to cover it up and a few of the campaign team are in prison now...


but but


i was wronged for no good reason. The IG report recently confirmed the FBI had no bias also - but hannity thinks i should sue!


does not sound like a winning case...


^ Poor fella hasn't yet realized that Russiagate was a complete fraud as was the Steele dossier. :lol

[TSA]

hey hey, i have officially removed the "muh" from woods procedures :lol

and lets not forget what you originally claimed would be the results of the horowitz investigation/report :lol



but were the WaPo and NYT articles accurate?

Yeah fairly accurate

[TSA]

Who’s starting the Lisa Page is doing awesome thread, tbh? I just heard she sued the DOJ and FBI over the leaked texts. Not only not going to jail, she gunna get paaaaid!

Paid for texts released from her government issued phone? Explain.

[TSA]

Im not sure if page saying:

I was wronged and accused of being a russian agent just because...

i went to russia, hung out with russians, gave speeches against the usa and its policies and championed russia’s policies

then joined a presidential campaign where there were over 100 russian/trump team contacts and 100% of those contacts went unreported...

then when we got caught - we all lied about it, tried to cover it up and a few of the campaign team are in prison now...


but but


i was wronged for no good reason. The IG report recently confirmed the FBI had no bias also - but hannity thinks i should sue!


does not sound like a winning case...

The IG report confirmed Page was wronged for no good reason. The FBI knew in Jan 2017 Steele’s dossier was bullshit, yet they continued using it to renew the FISA warrant on him while lying to the court. The FBI also lied about the CIA telling the FBI that Page was a vetted CIA asset who’d previously assisted in putting Russians in prison. In order to lie about this an agent altered and falsified an email submitted to the FISC as evidence on the application.

Page probably doesn’t have a case to sue but you are one stupid motherfucker to claim he was wronged for no good reason. Typical asshattery coming from you.

[TSA]

^ Poor fella hasn't yet realized that Russiagate was a complete fraud as was the Steele dossier. :lol

It’s tough for any of them to admit it, tbh not sure any of them have.

[TSA]

It’s tough for any of them to admit it, tbh not sure any of them have.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204567204869681153

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204569038954881024

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204573511798460416

But were they accurate? :lol

[Winehole23]

^ Poor fella hasn't yet realized that Russiagate was a complete fraud as was the Steele dossier. :lolIt all shakes down to how you parse "complete fraud," but oddly enough this is one of the few points where I am roughly in agreement with you.

The IG report is approximately as dire for the exaggerations of red team, as the Mueller Report was to those of blue team.

Both will claim otherwise.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/tedlieu/status/979088733625499648

Schiff read the application and still lied about it repeatedly. Crickets here from the usual suspects.

[ElNono]

Paid for texts released from her government issued phone? Explain.

Unless she waived away her right to privacy as part of her employment contract (in which case I doubt she'll be suing, but you never know), the SCOTUS has been clear that contents of devices like cellphones are protected by the 4th.

[TSA]

The IG report is approximately as dire for the exaggerations of red team, as the Mueller Report was to those of blue team.

Both will claim otherwise.

:rollin

[boutons_deux]

Why have Trash and his mafiya been forgetting, lying, obstructing about their Russian and Ukraine contacts?

When the Senate fails to convict, Trash and his mafiya's corruption, esp working with Pootin for the 2020 election, will explode, knowing they've gotten away with EVERYTHING and can corrupt govt with impunity.

[ElNono]

Schiff read the application and still lied about it repeatedly. Crickets here from the usual suspects.

I actually replied to this claim earlier. Schiff was vindicated by the report.

[ElNono]

The IG report confirmed Page was wronged for no good reason. The FBI knew in Jan 2017 Steele’s dossier was bullshit, yet they continued using it to renew the FISA warrant on him while lying to the court. The FBI also lied about the CIA telling the FBI that Page was a vetted CIA asset who’d previously assisted in putting Russians in prison. In order to lie about this an agent altered and falsified an email submitted to the FISC as evidence on the application.

Page probably doesn’t have a case to sue but you are one stupid motherfucker to claim he was wronged for no good reason. Typical asshattery coming from you.

:lol anything else you want to conclude that the IG himself didn't?

[ElNono]

tbh, did S:loll:lolm:loln apologize for misleading dummies on twitter yet? link?

He told them to bet the farm on the IG report, and welp, didn't pan out.

[TSA]

I actually replied to this claim earlier. Schiff was vindicated by the report.

:lol I think you meant to say Nunes was vindicated

FBI and DOJ officials did not omit material information from the FISA warrant.

The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016.”

In subsequent FISA renewals, DOJ provided additional information that corroborated Steele’s reporting.

The Page FISA warrant allowed the FBI to collect “valuable intelligence.”

“Far from ‘omitting’ material facts about Steele, as the Majority claims, DOJ repeatedly informed the Court about Steele’s background, credibility, and potential bias.”

The FBI conducted a “rigorous process” to vet Steele’s allegations, and the Page FISA application explained the FBI’s reasonable basis for finding Steele credible.

Steele’s prior reporting was used in “criminal proceedings.”

[spurraider21]

But were they accurate? :lol
those tweets are all almost entirely inaccurate. particularly the first one. i would always caution against getting news from tweets. i'd rather look to articles that those authors had published. i havent been able to find an article written by shane harris where he says that the dossier played no role in the fisa app, etc.

i did find the NBC one from dilanian. he correctly stated that the dossier did not launch the investigation. he incorrectly said that the contents of the dossier only made up of a "small part" of the evidence to establish PC. he also said that the fisa apps were approved by 4 separate judges, and FBI agents tryin to pull a fast one over the judges are risking their career. that turned out to be quasi accurate

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/why-team-trump-wrong-about-carter-page-dossier-secret-warrant-n893666

[TSA]

:lol anything else you want to conclude that the IG himself didn't?

I could see you taking issue with the first sentence, but after that? Those are all conclusions from Horowitz.

[Winehole23]

:lol anything else you want to conclude that the IG himself didn't?All of the things he's mentioned already.

"Report reaches conclusions the IG himself doesn't reach" is the kernel, everything else is just a flourish.

Delusion in Trumplandia is impinging Quixotic levels at this point.

[ElNono]

:lol I think you meant to say Nunes was vindicated

No, Schiff... Post #559 on this thread:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282024&p=10004355&viewfull=1#post10004355


FBI and DOJ officials did not omit material information from the FISA warrant.

The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016.”

In subsequent FISA renewals, DOJ provided additional information that corroborated Steele’s reporting.

The Page FISA warrant allowed the FBI to collect “valuable intelligence.”

“Far from ‘omitting’ material facts about Steele, as the Majority claims, DOJ repeatedly informed the Court about Steele’s background, credibility, and potential bias.”

The FBI conducted a “rigorous process” to vet Steele’s allegations, and the Page FISA application explained the FBI’s reasonable basis for finding Steele credible.

Steele’s prior reporting was used in “criminal proceedings.”

So, in other words, the IG determined there was no abuse of the FISA process, despite a good number of (serious) errors.

[spurraider21]

they did inform the judge of steele's background, credibility, and bias initially. they then neglected to inform the FISC of developments that caused them to cast doubt on his reporting.

i dont think the whole "THEY DIDNT SAY DNC" angle is very strong. they clearly told the court the guy was biased and his work was political opposition research meant to discredit trump. thats quite a bit of a heads up

[ElNono]

I could see you taking issue with the first sentence, but after that? Those are all conclusions from Horowitz.

Well, the first sentence summarizes what you're trying to explain later. Except that's completely opposite to what Horowitz concluded.

Whereas you've been spoonfed to think there was malice, Horowitz reviewed all the evidence and concluded there was not.

It doesn't mean the errors he detected weren't serious, and indeed, his recommendations are valuable.

[TSA]

No, Schiff... Post #559 on this thread:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282024&p=10004355&viewfull=1#post10004355



So, in other words, the IG determined there was no abuse of the FISA process, despite a good number of (serious) errors.

Bro...seriously? :lol These are straight from the Schiff memo. Vindicated? :lol

FBI and DOJ officials did not omit material information from the FISA warrant.

The DOJ “made only narrow use of information from Steele’s sources about Page’s specific activities in 2016.”

In subsequent FISA renewals, DOJ provided additional information that corroborated Steele’s reporting.

The Page FISA warrant allowed the FBI to collect “valuable intelligence.”

“Far from ‘omitting’ material facts about Steele, as the Majority claims, DOJ repeatedly informed the Court about Steele’s background, credibility, and potential bias.”

The FBI conducted a “rigorous process” to vet Steele’s allegations, and the Page FISA application explained the FBI’s reasonable basis for finding Steele credible.

Steele’s prior reporting was used in “criminal proceedings.”



https://docs.house.gov/meetings/ig/ig00/20180205/106838/hmtg-115-ig00-20180205-sd002.pdf

[ElNono]

they did inform the judge of steele's background, credibility, and bias initially. they then neglected to inform the FISC of developments that caused them to cast doubt on his reporting.

i dont think the whole "THEY DIDNT SAY DNC" angle is very strong. they clearly told the court the guy was biased and his work was political opposition research meant to discredit trump. thats quite a bit of a heads up

Yup, and perhaps the most damning part of the report is the general lack of clue about reporting to lawyers, etc. Those are grave errors, and I'm glad they're reviewing further FISA cases.

Now, there's no place where there's any indication of malice intent, which really sucks for Barr too, because it actually works as evidence against any criminal cases they might've considered bringing up.

[TSA]

Well, the first sentence summarizes what you're trying to explain later. Except that's completely opposite to what Horowitz concluded.

Whereas you've been spoonfed to think there was malice, Horowitz reviewed all the evidence and concluded there was not.

It doesn't mean the errors he detected weren't serious, and indeed, his recommendations are valuable.

So Page was wronged for a good reason?

[ElNono]

Bro...seriously? :lol These are straight from the Schiff memo. Vindicated? :lol

That report says a lot of things... among them that there was no FISA abuse. And even some of the things you posted were indeed true at some point in time.

I'm not defending Schiff, I'm merely pointing out that, at least partially (better now?), he was vindicated by the report's conclusions.

[TSA]

No, Schiff... Post #559 on this thread:

https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=282024&p=10004355&viewfull=1#post10004355



So, in other words, the IG determined there was no abuse of the FISA process, despite a good number of (serious) errors.

Omitting interview with Steele’s primary source is not an error
Lying about Steele’s past work is not an error
Hiding exculpatory evidence from the CIA saying Page is a vetted asset is not an error
Altering and falsifying an email saying Page is not a vetted asset is not an error

[ElNono]

So Page was wronged for a good reason?

Just quote the report saying Page was wronged... it's out now! there's no reason to skimp on details.

[TSA]

Just quote the report saying Page was wronged... it's out now! there's no reason to skimp on details.

This started as a comment to Spurs Homer. And Horowitz makes clear he was wronged by the gross omissions and lies used to obtain the renewals.

[ElNono]

Omitting interview with Steele’s primary source is not an error
Lying about Steele’s past work is not an error
Hiding exculpatory evidence from the CIA saying Page is a vetted asset is not an error
Altering and falsifying an email saying Page is not a vetted asset is not an error

:lol You spent a year and a half or more pimping how great Horowitz is at investigating, PLUS, he got first hand evidence to look at.

It would look really silly now to turn around and say he doesn't know what he was doing. I mean, he concluded all those things were grave errors, but not intentional misconduct.

[ElNono]

This started as a comment to Spurs Homer. And Horowitz makes clear he was wronged by the gross omissions and lies used to obtain the renewals.

Yep, no quote. Probably because Horowitz didn't say nor conclude that?

You keep saying Horowitz said X or Y, but won't quote where he says that. See a repeating pattern here?

[TSA]

Yep, no quote. Probably because Horowitz didn't say nor conclude that?

You keep saying Horowitz said X or Y, but won't quote where he says that. See a repeating pattern here?

Yes I see the repeating pattern, you keep trying to pass off obviously intentional acts as errors. It’s pathetic and tbh I’m shocked it’s coming from you.

[spurraider21]

That report says a lot of things... among them that there was no FISA abuse. And even some of the things you posted were indeed true at some point in time.

I'm not defending Schiff, I'm merely pointing out that, at least partially (better now?), he was vindicated by the report's conclusions.
would you consider intentional omissions (and in that one lawyer's case who edited an email, misrepresentations) for the purpose of securing FISA warrants/renewals FISA abuse though?

granted, as you said, horowitz didnt find that anybody acted with malice or political bias, or anything resembling the grand conspiracy that Q-tards were banking on... but he did find a lot of issues with the process

[TSA]

:lol You spent a year and a half or more pimping how great Horowitz is at investigating, PLUS, he got first hand evidence to look at.

It would look really silly now to turn around and say he doesn't know what he was doing. I mean, he concluded all those things were grave errors, but not intentional misconduct.

Horowitz said their answers were unsatisfactory. After he interviews where does he go with no subpoena power with them being out of government?

[ElNono]

Yes I see the repeating pattern, you keep trying to pass off obviously intentional acts as errors. It’s pathetic and tbh I’m shocked it’s coming from you.

No, I'm refreshing your memory that's exactly what Horowitz concluded. I didn't write the report, and I didn't reach those conclusions, your super duper investigator did.

I can see how it really, really sucks after building an entire narrative for over a year, but hey, them dem breaks.

[ElNono]

would you constitute intentional omissions (and in that one lawyer's case who edited an email, misrepresentations) for the purpose of securing FISA warrants/renewals FISA abuse though?

granted, as you said, horowitz didnt find that anybody acted with malice or political bias, or anything resembling the grand conspiracy that Q-tards were banking on... but he did find a lot of issues with the process

In order for it to be abuse, it has to be intentional. You know how this work in law, and why there's manslaughter vs murder, or an insanity plea. Could be that they covered their tracks really well? Could be, that's what conspiracy theories are all about.

Fact finding so far has shown no evidence of malice intent. So, we'll review this when new evidence shows up.

And as I noted in the first post here, IIRC, the errors in process are absolutely terrible and the IG recommendations must be followed. It's actually encouraging they're be reviewing additional FISA cases. There's just very little oversight on that area for my taste.

[djohn2oo8]

TSA sure quiet about Bruce Ohr.

[spurraider21]

In order for it to be abuse, it has to be intentional. You know how this work in law, and why there's manslaughter vs murder, or an insanity plea. Could be that they covered their tracks really well? Could be, that's what conspiracy theories are all about.

Fact finding so far has shown no evidence of malice intent. So, we'll review this when new evidence shows up.

And as I noted in the first post here, IIRC, the errors in process are absolutely terrible and the IG recommendations must be followed. It's actually encouraging they're be reviewing additional FISA cases. There's just very little oversight on that area for my taste.
fair points tbh.


While we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on the part of the case agents who assisted OI in preparing the applications, or the agents and supervisors who performed the Woods Procedures, we also did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or problems we identified. In most instances, the agents and supervisors told us that they either did not know or recall why the information was not shared with OI, that the failure todo so may have been an oversight, that they did not recognize at the time the relevance of t he information to the FISA application, or that they did not believe the missing information to be significant . On this last point, we believe that case agents may have improperly substituted their own judgments in place of the judgment of OI, or in place of the court, to weigh the probative value of the information. Further, the failure to update OI on all significant case developments relevant to the FISA applications led us to conclude that the agents and supervisors did not give appropriate attention or treatment to the facts that cut against probable cause, or reassess the information supporting probable cause as the investigation progressed.

i dont know how the alteration of the email, at the very least, wouldn't be intentional though

[ElNono]

Horowitz said their answers were unsatisfactory. After he interviews where does he go with no subpoena power with them being out of government?

He said more than that. Let me show you how to quote the actual report:

Page 376:
"Although we did not find documentary or testimonial evidence of intentional misconduct on the part of the case agents who assisted 01 in preparing the applications, or the agents and supervisors who performed the Woods Procedures, we also did not receive satisfactory explanations for the errors or missing information".

And where does he go? He hands this to Congress so they can subpoena and investigate if they deem necessary. That's how this system works.

The fact that he does say he could not find any evidence there was intentional misconduct, neither through documents nor testimony, means that at this point in time there's no evidence of wrongdoing.

[TSA]

No, I'm refreshing your memory that's exactly what Horowitz concluded. I didn't write the report, and I didn't reach those conclusions, your super duper investigator did.

I can see how it really, really sucks after building an entire narrative for over a year, but hey, them dem breaks.

No, you can’t see how it sucks for me because I don’t feel that way at all.

[TSA]

In order for it to be abuse, it has to be intentional. You know how this work in law, and why there's manslaughter vs murder, or an insanity plea. Could be that they covered their tracks really well? Could be, that's what conspiracy theories are all about.

Fact finding so far has shown no evidence of malice intent. So, we'll review this when new evidence shows up.

And as I noted in the first post here, IIRC, the errors in process are absolutely terrible and the IG recommendations must be followed. It's actually encouraging they're be reviewing additional FISA cases. There's just very little oversight on that area for my taste.

Explain how intentionally altering and falsifying a document submitted to the FISC for a warrant renewal is just an error and not intentional?

[ElNono]

i dont know how the alteration of the email, at the very least, wouldn't be intentional though

I can see a few scenarios where that could happen unintentionally, but it would sound like excuses, so I won't go there. However, reading the bulk of the report, it doesn't appear to me that was singled out as something with malice intent. More like another link in the chain of errors and mistakes with procedure that were delineated on the report.

[ElNono]

No, you can’t see how it sucks for me because I don’t feel that way at all.

I can totally see how it sucks for you, considering you're basically in denial of what Horowitz actually concluded.

You continue to push for conclusions that the IG didn't make. Get over it, it didn't work out. There's another one million conspiracies out there to cling your wagon to.

[TSA]

TSA sure quiet about Bruce Ohr.

I know how to make you quiet real quick. Where’s my 2 grand you welshing faggot?

[ElNono]

Explain how intentionally altering and falsifying a document submitted to the FISC for a warrant renewal is just an error and not intentional?

Horowitz might have to explain it. That was his conclusion, not mine. You're arguing with Horowitz now.

I'll have to take your word, for over a year and a half, that this is a competent guy, and he reviewed the evidence, so he must know what he said.

[TSA]

I can see a few scenarios where that could happen unintentionally, but it would sound like excuses, so I won't go there. However, reading the bulk of the report, it doesn't appear to me that was singled out as something with malice intent. More like another link in the chain of errors and mistakes with procedure that were delineated on the report.

Horowitz referred him to Durham for a criminal investigation.

:lol unintentionally altering and falsifying documents. I need to test this theory out.

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204567204869681153

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204569038954881024

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204573511798460416

But were they accurate? :lol
You weren't.

Neither was Techno Fog.

It's astounding how wrong you were.

Nice to know they got good Intel from that Page warrant.

Wouldn't have been renewed otherwise.

You know that and will never admit it.

:lol

[djohn2oo8]

I know how to make you quiet real quick. Where’s my 2 grand you welshing faggot?
Since you haven’t been proven right, I’d say it’s right next to the political bias at the FBI. :lol

[ElNono]

Horowitz referred him to Durham for a criminal investigation.

:lol unintentionally altering and falsifying documents. I need to test this theory out.

What document was falsified according to the IG? Quote?

Any quotes on the criminal referral too? (not kidding, I don't see anything on the report)

As far as alterations, laugh all you want, but this stuff happens all the time in things like transcripts or translations of documents. I'm not claiming that's what happened here, but you wanted examples, those are some examples.

[TSA]

Since you haven’t been proven right, I’d say it’s right next to the political bias at the FBI. :lol

Why did you bail on the ST fantasy league the day after you said you were in?

[djohn2oo8]

Why did you bail on the ST fantasy league the day after you said you were in?
Had to prep myself to come see the devastating IG report that you promised

[djohn2oo8]

I’m still waiting

[TSA]

What document was falsified according to the IG? Quote?

Any quotes on the criminal referral too? (not kidding, I don't see anything on the report)

As far as alterations, laugh all you want, but this stuff happens all the time in things like transcripts or translations of documents. I'm not claiming that's what happened here, but you wanted examples, those are some examples.

I’m not going to dig for the actual quote from the report. It’s already been posted here and is the same thing SR21 is talking about.

FBI reaches out to CIA for info on Page next renewal. CIA emailed Page was a vetted CIA source for years. FBI took that email and altered to say Page was not a CIA source.

[TSA]

Had to prep myself to come see the devastating IG report that you promised

:lol you are so fucking broke and pathetic

[ElNono]

I’m not going to dig for the actual quote from the report. It’s already been posted here and is the same thing SR21 is talking about.

FBI reaches out to CIA for info on Page next renewal. CIA emailed Page was a vetted CIA source for years. FBI took that email and altered to say Page was not a CIA source.

That's an alteration, not a falsification (actual word used on the report is alteration). Page 255 of the report.

And this is what you call the 'criminal referral':

Consistent with the Inspector General Act of 1978, following the OIG's discovery that the OGC Attorney had altered the email that he sent to SSA 2, who thereafter relied on it to swear out the final FISA application, the OIG promptly informed the Attorney General and the FBI Director, and provided them with the relevant information about the OGC Attorney's actions.

[djohn2oo8]

:lol you are so fucking broke and pathetic
You’re the one who bet on every conspiracy theory In the Russia probe. Like some sort of addict. :hungry:

[TSA]

That's an alteration, not a falsification (actual word used on the report is alteration). Page 255 of the report.

And this is what you call the 'criminal referral':

Consistent with the Inspector General Act of 1978, following the OIG's discovery that the OGC Attorney had altered the email that he sent to SSA 2, who thereafter relied on it to swear out the final FISA application, the OIG promptly informed the Attorney General and the FBI Director, and provided them with the relevant information about the OGC Attorney's actions.

:lol are you just trolling tonight?

Did altering the email make the email presented false? Yes or no.

[TSA]

You’re the one who bet on every conspiracy theory In the Russia probe. Like some sort of addict. :hungry:

You were the only one stupid enough to accept one for 2 grand and then lose :lmao

Broke ass welshing faggot :lmao

[djohn2oo8]

You were the only one stupid enough to accept one for 2 grand and then lose :lmao

Broke ass welshing faggot :lmao
Can you prove I lost? Since last we heard, Mueller’s grand jury never stopped

[djohn2oo8]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2019/03/27/mueller-grand-jury-1238861

because I told your dumbass Mueller handed off cases

[djohn2oo8]

https://scontent.fhou1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/fr/cp0/e15/q65/74411245_3542476152444373_5166632918767894528_n.jp g?_nc_cat=109&efg=eyJpIjoidCJ9&_nc_ohc=WxAx_jHqApUAQlLFbp2qU0Ngai6mWUfKw78oW8iq3m kO8qt84cvaM4BbQ&_nc_ht=scontent.fhou1-2.fna&oh=a978775e6a735151e5f96d491ed7634d&oe=5E7F9D0D


Active Mueller case :)

[spurraider21]

:lol are you just trolling tonight?

Did altering the email make the email presented false? Yes or no.
yeah... falsification of a document can also be done through alteration. doesn't mean you have to conjure it up from scratch

[ElNono]

:lol are you just trolling tonight?

Did altering the email make the email presented false? Yes or no.

Not necessarily. There's no such claim on the report, at least. That's why these things are referred to the DOJ for further investigation.

The report does indicate that the alteration was an addition (3 words), with no omission of the original text.

There's even quotes of the email and what was altered on the report.

[ElNono]

yeah... falsification of a document can also be done through alteration. doesn't mean you have to conjure it up from scratch

Yes, but you can do alteration without falsification (ie: annotating a document).

[spurraider21]

Yes, but you can do alteration without falsification (ie: annotating a document).
that's not what is claimed to have happened by horowitz though :lol

the substantive meaning of the email was changed

[ElNono]

that's not what is claimed to have happened by horowitz though :lol

the substantive meaning of the email was changed

Oh yeah, I’m not saying it was an annotation. Did you actually see what was the addition?

The reason I think it’ll be hard for Horowitz to argue it was made with malice intent is that they left [digraph] in there. If somebody would risk their necks to actually falsify a document, might as well go all the way, but they didnt

[ElNono]

What I found particularly disturbing on that section, is how 'SSA 2' is apparently clueless about the language. But stuff like that is apparently interspersed throughout the report.

[Spurminator]

Poor TSA. So much time spent. So much hope.

Imagine devoting so much of your life to this dud. :lol

[spurraider21]

Poor TSA. So much time spent. So much hope.

Imagine devoting so much of your life to this dud. :lol
The best is him pretending this is exactly what he was hoping for despite his posts from months ago claiming this report would basically be Armageddon for non trumpers

[TSA]

The best is him pretending this is exactly what he was hoping for despite his posts from months ago claiming this report would basically be Armageddon for non trumpers

Not you in particular, but the rest of the never trumpers are trying their damndest to spin this IG report as something positive. Horowitz ripped the FBI.

“We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through the use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny,”

“We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just but those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed,”

I’m 100% satisfied with that from Horowitz and am looking forward to who/what Durham is after.

[TSA]

Yes, but you can do alteration without falsification (ie: annotating a document).
Sorry no report but easiest way I can find from my phone

https://mobile.twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204138992133976075

https://mobile.twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204149763253374979

:lol not intentional

[ChumpDumper]

Not you in particular, but the rest of the never trumpers are trying their damndest to spin this IG report as something positive. Horowitz ripped the FBI.

“We are deeply concerned that so many basic and fundamental errors were made by three separate, hand-picked investigative teams; on one of the most sensitive FBI investigations; after the matter had been briefed to the highest levels within the FBI; even though the information sought through the use of FISA authority related so closely to an ongoing presidential campaign; and even though those involved with the investigation knew that their actions were likely to be subjected to close scrutiny,”

“We believe this circumstance reflects a failure not just but those who prepared the FISA applications, but also by the managers and supervisors in the Crossfire Hurricane chain of command, including FBI senior officials who were briefed as the investigation progressed,”

I’m 100% satisfied with that from Horowitz and am looking forward to who/what Durham is after.
You want us to repost your prediction?

Horowitz shit directly in your mouth, dude.

[ElNono]

Sorry no report but easiest way I can find from my phone

:lol not intentional

This is your problem, tbh, you continue to read editorialized tidbits from unknowns on the internet, when you actually have the report at hand.

I think it's fairly obvious at this point I've read the report (at the very least the portion that relates to the alteration), it's not really clear that you have.

BTW, the not intentional is not my claim, it's Horowitz. I already posted the quote from the report on the conclusion twice, so I don't think I need to do it a third time.

[ElNono]

If only you had the same curiosity about what the actual report says when it doesn't prove all your predictions as you would if it did...

[ElNono]

But, I'll tell you this much: it's entirely possible that this alteration can become a criminal matter. The DOJ can certainly bring charges if they find the evidence the IG could not find.

[DarrinS]

Poor TSA. So much time spent. So much hope.

Imagine devoting so much of your life to this dud. :lol


How much time did the media spend on Russiagate?

Imagine devoting so much time to that dud.

[spurraider21]

How much time did the media spend on Russiagate?

Imagine devoting so much time to that dud.
a sitting president was being investigated. that's inherently newsworthy and its their job to report on the ongoing investigation

go ahead and link me to non op-ed pieces from the major outlets, as in WaPo, NYT, AP, WSJ, NPR, etc that were parading around predicting that trump was going to be removed from office during the investigation

[TSA]

This is your problem, tbh, you continue to read editorialized tidbits from unknowns on the internet, when you actually have the report at hand.

I think it's fairly obvious at this point I've read the report (at the very least the portion that relates to the alteration), it's not really clear that you have.

BTW, the not intentional is not my claim, it's Horowitz. I already posted the quote from the report on the conclusion twice, so I don't think I need to do it a third time.

Those are actual snippets from the report. What difference does it make? It’s clear as day he intentionally altered the emails and submitted falsified emails to the FISC.

“the OGC Attorney altered the liaison’s email by inserting the words “not a source” into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was “not a source” for the other agency.

I’m asking you if it was intentional. Yes or no?

[spurraider21]

You want us to repost your prediction?

Horowitz shit directly in your mouth, dude.
:lol tbh

[ChumpDumper]

TSA is dying on one dude he never heard of before hill.

[TSA]

a sitting president was being investigated. that's inherently newsworthy and its their job to report on the ongoing investigation

go ahead and link me to non op-ed pieces from the major outlets, as in WaPo, NYT, AP, WSJ, NPR, etc that were parading around predicting that trump was going to be removed from office during the investigation

That’s far from an honest take on the media’s role in this whole thing. They didn’t just report on the investigation, the spread bullshit leaks from those running the investigation in order to damage Trump.

[TSA]

But, I'll tell you this much: it's entirely possible that this alteration can become a criminal matter. The DOJ can certainly bring charges if they find the evidence the IG could not find.

It’s already a criminal matter, and the IG can’t prosecute anyways. The fuck is wrong with you tonight? :lol

[DarrinS]

a sitting president was being investigated. that's inherently newsworthy and its their job to report on the ongoing investigation

They were so bad at it though. Both the IC and the MSM suffered from hardcore confirmation bias.

[ChumpDumper]

That’s far from an honest take on the media’s role in this whole thing. They didn’t just report on the investigation, the spread bullshit leaks from those running the investigation in order to damage Trump.

You need to remember all the shit you've been lost my about the deep state and Q and Pizza and unlawful exonerations.

[DarrinS]

The head of Obama's CIA, Brennan, thought the Steele dossier was legit. Let that sink in.

[spurraider21]

That’s far from an honest take on the media’s role in this whole thing. They didn’t just report on the investigation, the spread bullshit leaks from those running the investigation in order to damage Trump.
hard to verify which leaks are or aren't accurate. they typically wont report based on a single source. at least not the major publications. we saw retractions when they got things wrong. but on a story that big, they absolutely should be turning every stone to find something to report on. would be journalistic malpractice if they just sat around and waiting for the final report

[spurraider21]

The head of Obama's CIA, Brennan, thought the Steele dossier was legit. Let that sink in.
yeah we get it, something something black president

[DarrinS]

yeah we get it, something something black president


Really?

[spurraider21]

Really?
last i checked. at least half.

[ChumpDumper]

The head of Obama's CIA, Brennan, thought the Steele dossier was legit. Let that sink in.
You want the list of conspiracy theories Trump believes?

Nevermind. You believe them too.

Let that sink in.

[TSA]

hard to verify which leaks are or aren't accurate. they typically wont report based on a single source. at least not the major publications. we saw retractions when they got things wrong. but on a story that big, they absolutely should be turning every stone to find something to report on. would be journalistic malpractice if they just sat around and waiting for the final report

They didn’t care about accuracy :lol

And the retractions didn’t matter, they got the initial false story out to the public to damage Trump. It happened over and over again for years and they’re still not being held accountable by the public at large.

[ElNono]

Those are actual snippets from the report. What difference does it make? It’s clear as day he intentionally altered the emails and submitted falsified emails to the FISC.

“the OGC Attorney altered the liaison’s email by inserting the words “not a source” into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was “not a source” for the other agency.

I’m asking you if it was intentional. Yes or no?

What you posted is an editorialized comment of selective reports snippets building a narrative.

Here's an actual quote from the report on the actual change:

However, the OIG determined that this forwarded version of the Liaison's response email had been altered. Specifically, the words "and not a 'source"' had been inserted in the Liaison's June 15 response after the word "[digraph]."

Thus, the Liaison's email was altered to read: "My recollection is that Page was or is and [sic] '[digraph]' and not a 'source' but the [documents] will explain the details." (Emphasis added).

Was the alteration intentional, I think so. Was it done with intentional malice to falsify the document? The IG found no evidence of that, and referred the matter to the DOJ (which is what he's supposed to do).

As I was mentioning to SR21, after reading that pertinent part of the report, it does strikes me as odd that if they will go to the trouble of editing the email, they wouldn't just get rid of [digraph].

But, as I added afterwards, it's also apparent that whoever SSA 2 is, he/she is apparently clueless about intelligence terms.

SSA 2 told us that the statement inserted into the Liaison's email-that Page was "not a source"- was the most important part of the email for him. SSA 2 said "if they say [he's] not a source, then you know we're good." SSA 2 also said that if the email from the Liaison had not contained the words "not a source" then, for him, the issue would have remained unresolved, and he would have had to seek further clarification. SSA 2 stated: "If you take out 'and not a source,' it's not wrong, but it doesn't really answer the question."

[ChumpDumper]

They didn’t care about accuracy :lol

And the retractions didn’t matter, they got the initial false story out to the public to damage Trump. It happened over and over again for years and they’re still not being held accountable by the public at large.

:lol the complete lack of self awareness

[ElNono]

It’s already a criminal matter, and the IG can’t prosecute anyways. The fuck is wrong with you tonight? :lol

I haven't heard anybody being charged for this. link? I'm not even saying you're lying, I'm saying I haven't seen charges pressed against this lawyer yet.

[DarrinS]

You want the list of conspiracy theories Trump believes?

Nevermind. You believe them too.

Let that sink in.


Please elaborate

[ChumpDumper]

Please elaborate

Do you think Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?

[TSA]

What you posted is an editorialized comment of selective reports snippets building a narrative.

Here's an actual quote from the report on the actual change:

However, the OIG determined that this forwarded version of the Liaison's response email had been altered. Specifically, the words "and not a 'source"' had been inserted in the Liaison's June 15 response after the word "[digraph]."

Thus, the Liaison's email was altered to read: "My recollection is that Page was or is and [sic] '[digraph]' and not a 'source' but the [documents] will explain the details." (Emphasis added).

Was the alteration intentional, I think so. Was it done with intentional malice to falsify the document? The IG found no evidence of that, and referred the matter to the DOJ (which is what he's supposed to do).

As I was mentioning to SR21, after reading that pertinent part of the report, it does strikes me as odd that if they will go to the trouble of editing the email, they wouldn't just get rid of [digraph].

But, as I added afterwards, it's also apparent that whoever SSA 2 is, he/she is apparently clueless about intelligence terms.

SSA 2 told us that the statement inserted into the Liaison's email-that Page was "not a source"- was the most important part of the email for him. SSA 2 said "if they say [he's] not a source, then you know we're good." SSA 2 also said that if the email from the Liaison had not contained the words "not a source" then, for him, the issue would have remained unresolved, and he would have had to seek further clarification. SSA 2 stated: "If you take out 'and not a source,' it's not wrong, but it doesn't really answer the question."

Did I need to put this in italics for you to realize this was directly from the report?

“the OGC Attorney altered the liaison’s email by inserting the words “not a source” into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was “not a source” for the other agency.

[DarrinS]

Do you think Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

[pgardn]

They were so bad at it though. Both the IC and the MSM suffered from hardcore confirmation bias.

MSM is ...? List please.

Because most of what I read showed a pissed off orange guy saying he was being accused of things he was not.
The investigation was clearly warranted and we now know the extent that the Russians were involved in interference with our elections. Orange guy got himself into trouble because he claimed there was no Russian interference, then claimed there was, and now currently... He NEVER brings it up. Worried about illegals voting, but blind to Russian interference?

Are you trying to convey some sort of joke saying this was all about nothing? Do you think the Russians interfered with our elections?

[ChumpDumper]

https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446
Darrin, I'm asking you.

Do you think Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?

Yes or no.

[TSA]

I haven't heard anybody being charged for this. link? I'm not even saying you're lying, I'm saying I haven't seen charges pressed against this lawyer yet.

No one has claimed he’s been charged.

[DarrinS]

MSM is ...? List please.

Because most of what I read showed a pissed off orange guy saying he was being accused of things he was not.
The investigation was clearly warranted and we now know the extent that the Russians were involved in interference with our elections. Orange guy got himself into trouble because he claimed there was no Russian interference, then claimed there was, and now currently... He NEVER brings it up. Worried about illegals voting, but blind to Russian interference?

Are you trying to convey some sort of joke saying this was all about nothing? Do you think the Russians interfered with our elections?


Damn. That was the most convoluted peak TDS way of establishing a straw man.

Yes, Russia interfered, but the "collision" theory was a complete fraud.

[ElNono]

No one has claimed he’s been charged.

You have:


It’s already a criminal matter, and the IG can’t prosecute anyways. The fuck is wrong with you tonight? :lol

How can it be a criminal matter if nobody's been charged with a crime?

[ElNono]

Did I need to put this in italics for you to realize this was directly from the report?

“the OGC Attorney altered the liaison’s email by inserting the words “not a source” into it, thus making it appear that the liaison had said that Page was “not a source” for the other agency.

Right, but the OGC Attorney also left in the email that Page was a [digraph] (as explained in the report, which I just quoted). The Liason then goes to explain that a [digraph] is somebody that talks to the agency.

That's why complete quotes are important.

[DarrinS]

Darrin, I'm asking you.

Do you think Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election?

Yes or no.


"The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia"


Seems like an important quote.


To answer your question, yes.

[Reck]

"The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia"


Seems like an important quote.


To answer your question, yes.

:lol What a pathetic response.

[ChumpDumper]

"The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia"


Seems like an important quote.


To answer your question, yes.So you believe in the same conspiracy theories as Trump.

Like I said.

:lol

[DarrinS]

I think chump is going full Chuck Todd pearl clutching :lol

[ChumpDumper]

I think chump is going full Chuck Todd pearl clutching :lol
Darrin just finished clutching his pearls about Manafort's being outed as a criminal. :lol

Dude is in prison. Darrin probably wants him pardoned.

[DarrinS]

Darrin just finished clutching his pearls about Manafort's being outed as a criminal. :lol

I've already admitted dude committed white collar crimes that pre-dated his brief stint with drumpf campaign.

[ChumpDumper]

I've already admitted dude committed white collar crimes that pre-dated his brief stint with drumpf campaign.

And you're clutching your pearls at his getting caught and outed by the Ukrainians. :lol

[DarrinS]

And you're clutching your pearls at his getting caught and outed by the Ukrainians. :lol

Nope

[ChumpDumper]

Nope
Yep. They hated Manafort. Not Trump.

[pgardn]

Damn. That was the most convoluted peak TDS way of establishing a straw man.

Yes, Russia interfered, but the "collision" theory was a complete fraud.

I could see how people might think this, but collusion requires way too much planning. They would have to work together. When Trump asked Russia and others to publish Clinton’s emails and find all of them one could see how boots, djohn and others would go ballistic.
The MSM I read basically stated exactly what I have. Collusion requires way too much interwoven planning that just was not there. I stated this numerous times to a hopeful djohn.

Anyways we have an election coming up. Worried about more interference? I am. Red team ain’t? How bout Darrin the neutral?

The president and his team, Manafort et al needed to be investigated, I’m glad we caught these traitors and made some money. But You don’t think we needed an investigation.

[pgardn]

...

[pgardn]

I think chump is going full Chuck Todd pearl clutching :lol

You mean like what he did to Ted Cruz?
That was funny, yeah?

[DarrinS]

You mean like what he did to Ted Cruz?
That was funny, yeah?

It was funny

[pgardn]

It was funny

Did you see the look on Ted’s face when reminded about Trump putting out lies about his father....? after Ted tried to defend Trump’s current lying? Like, wow Ted, he does not lie? That was, was...

Like some people on this board.

[DarrinS]

Did you see the look on Ted’s face when reminded about Trump putting out lies about his father....? after Ted tried to defend Trump’s current lying? Like, wow Ted, he does not lie? That was, was...

Like some people on this board.


I saw the entire interview. And I laughed at Chuck Todd.

[DarrinS]

Anyway

RIP

Russiagate
Steele Dossier

[spurraider21]

Anyway

RIP

Russiagate
Steele Dossier
And spygate
deep state gate
mifsudgate

[Spurs Homer]

The IG report confirmed Page was wronged for no good reason. The FBI knew in Jan 2017 Steele’s dossier was bullshit, yet they continued using it to renew the FISA warrant on him while lying to the court. The FBI also lied about the CIA telling the FBI that Page was a vetted CIA asset who’d previously assisted in putting Russians in prison. In order to lie about this an agent altered and falsified an email submitted to the FISC as evidence on the application.

Page probably doesn’t have a case to sue but you are one stupid motherfucker to claim he was wronged for no good reason. Typical asshattery coming from you.

because going to an enemy govt and making anti-american speeches and pro-russian speeches

and then whining about being accused is something every american would be proud to be a part of?


lolololol


hey comrade tsa - how does russia treat russians who travel to the usa and make anti-mother russia speeches?


you really care about page dont you?
why?

[pgardn]

I saw the entire interview. And I laughed at Chuck Todd.

Teddy Cruz, Donald Trump...

Must be difficult to defend blatant liars.
I will say it must fit you, cause it can’t be easy.

[boutons_deux]

TSA, nobody in the conspiriland will answer

Why have Trash and his mafiya been forgetting, lying, obstructing investigations of their Russian, Ukraine connections?

why have they been, and still are, REFUSING to come clean, prove their innocence?

Why would Trash, or someone, want to pay Gates to STFU and refuse to testify?

[Spurs Homer]

Leningrad Lindsey going full Hannity

playing hannitys greatest hits while clutching his pearls

”mean texts!”

wait until the Horowitz CONCLUSIONS are exposed by the dems

[TSA]

You have:



How can it be a criminal matter if nobody's been charged with a crime?

I didn't say criminal case.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1204799254138474497

lol holy shit

[TSA]

Just quote the report saying Page was wronged... it's out now! there's no reason to skimp on details.

https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1204800861957963776

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1204798270326919169

[djohn2oo8]

No bias. Investigation justified.

[djohn2oo8]

1204806535727263745

[TSA]

No bias. Investigation justified.

Being unable to say is not no bias.

[djohn2oo8]

Being unable to say is not no bias.
No bias.

[djohn2oo8]

1204806569638187008

[djohn2oo8]

1204805553274458112

[djohn2oo8]

1204797933398503424

[TSA]

<removed>

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204811331083395072

:lol

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204808699786731520

[Winehole23]

Being unable to say is not no bias."If we thought that the evidence cleared the President we would have said so."

In other words

COMPLETE EXONERATION

[Spurs Homer]

Lol

”carter page was a tiny percentage of the russia investigation”

but conspiritards clutch their pearls that a guy who went to russia and basically said - to russians- that he hates american policies and supports russian propaganda

was investigated.

hey tsa - ill ask again: “why are you so concerned with comrade carter page?”

[RandomGuy]

I saw the entire interview. And I laughed at Chuck Todd.

Useful.
Idiot.

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1204799254138474497

lol holy shit
Why is this holy shit. It’s literally what the report said. They wanted a warrant but realized they didn’t have enough for PC so they didn’t act on it at the time. He doesn’t say they submitted an app to the fisa court and got denied