Horowitz has found Carter Page FISA Warrant was legal

[djohn2oo8]

1204812597524127745

[RandomGuy]

"If we thought that the evidence cleared the President we would have said so."

In other words

COMPLETE EXONERATION

Going to guess you will get about the same response I got to this. i.e. crickets... chirp chirp chirp...

[TSA]

Why is this holy shit. It’s literally what the report said. They wanted a warrant but realized they didn’t have enough for PC so they didn’t act on it at the time. He doesn’t say they submitted an app to the fisa court and got denied

They wanted a FISA warrant while having zero evidence Page was somehow a foreign agent. Think about that.

[boutons_deux]

They wanted a FISA warrant while having zero evidence Page was somehow a foreign agent. Think about that.

Carter had visited Moscow, as did the NRA, Jill Stein, Sheriff Clarke, so they were all suspects, and probably still are. eg, NRA laundered Russian money

[RandomGuy]

They wanted a FISA warrant while having zero evidence Page was somehow a foreign agent. Think about that.

No bias. Total exoneration.

[ChumpDumper]

They wanted a FISA warrant while having zero evidence Page was somehow a foreign agent. Think about that.Think about all the information they must have gotten to be able to renew the warrant 3 times.

[TSA]

November 2015-April 2016 – The FBI and DOJ’s National Security Division (NSD) uses private contractors to access raw FISA information using “To” and “From” FISA-702(16) & “About” FISA-702(17) queries.
March 2016 – NSA Director Rogers becomes aware of improper access to raw FISA data.
April 2016 – Rogers orders the NSA compliance officer to run a full audit on 702 NSA compliance.
April 18 2016 – Rogers shuts down FBI/NSD contractor access to the FISA Search System.
September 26 2016 – DOJ’s NSD Head John Carlin files the Government’s proposed 2016 Section 702 certifications. Carlin has been aware of Rogers’ compliance review.
September 27 2016 – Carlin announces he is resigning. Mary McCord will later assume his position.
October 4 2016 – a follow-up hearing on the 2016 Section 702 Certification was held. Carlin is still with the NSD at this time.
October 15 2016 – Carlin formally leaves the NSD.
Mid-October 2016 – DNI Clapper submits a recommendation to the White House that Director Rogers be removed from the NSA.
October 20 2016 – Rogers is briefed by the NSA compliance officer on the Section 702 NSA compliance audit and “About” query violations.
October 21 2016 – Rogers shuts down all “About Query” activity. Rogers reports the activity to DOJ and prepares to go before the FISA Court.
October 21 2016 – DOJ & FBI seek and receive a Title I FISA probable cause order authorizing electronic surveillance on Carter Page from the FISC. At this point, the FISA Court is unaware of the Section 702 violations.
October 24 2016 – Rogers verbally informs the FISA Court of Section 702(17) violations.
October 26 2016 – Rogers formally informs the FISA Court of 702(17) violations in writing.
November 17 2016 (morning) – Rogers travels to meet President-Elect Trump and his Transition Team in Trump Tower. Rogers does not inform DNI James Clapper.
November 17 2016 (evening) – Trump Transition Team announces they are moving all transition activity to Trump National Golf Club in New Jersey.

https://themarketswork.com/2018/05/21/john-carlin-the-former-nsd-head-who-enabled-the-fbis-carter-page-fisa-warrant/

[ChumpDumper]

:lol now these irregularities are the biggest threat to American civilization while Trump should be able to do anything he wants just cuz.

[TSA]

No bias. Total exoneration.

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1204806903634767874

[Spurs Homer]

:lol now these irregularities are the biggest threat to American civilization while Trump should be able to do anything he wants just cuz.

executive privilege - duh!

dear leader is above the law because...

just because...

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1204806903634767874Difficult to prove a negative.

Certainly couldn't prove they did act out of political bias.

And Horowitz wasn't moved by anything muh Durham told him.

IOW, Horowitz shit in your mouth.

[ChumpDumper]

executive privilege - duh!

dear leader is above the law because...

just because...Fuck the law! There are Dems to pwn!

[Spurs Homer]

Fuck the law! There are Dems to pwn!

comey just KNEW that to stop trump

he must FIRST stop Hillary from winning...

THEN ...4d chess time baby!

[spurraider21]

They wanted a FISA warrant while having zero evidence Page was somehow a foreign agent. Think about that.
First, Horowitz said insufficient evidence, not zero evidence.

Second, that doesn't sound troubling at all. Law enforcement has suspicion of criminal activity and want a warrant to confirm. Realizing that they need PC, they have to gather more evidence before doing so. That's kind of how it works.

[ChumpDumper]

comey just KNEW that to stop trump

he must FIRST stop Hillary from winning...

THEN ...4d chess time baby!:lol Pretty much every thing the Trumpettes here are whining about, Ukrainian and FBI "intereference," actually HELPED Trump get elected.

These guys never make any sense.

[TSA]

First, Horowitz said insufficient evidence, not zero evidence.

Second, that doesn't sound troubling at all. Law enforcement has suspicion of criminal activity and want a warrant to confirm. Realizing that they need PC, they have to gather more evidence before doing so. That's kind of how it works.

Horowitz said the Steele dossier was the only evidence the FBI had that Page was somehow an agent of Russia. If that is the only evidence they had what evidence could they have had before receiving the Steele dossier?

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/themarketswork/status/1204837539720249344

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/ErikWemple/status/1204838441592262656

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/davidharsanyi/status/1204839394286489600

[Spurs Homer]

Klobuchar: “Did you find ANY political bias or any other improper motivation into the opening of the investigation into...”

manafort? NO
papadopolous? NO
Flynn? NO
Carter Page? NO
any systematic political bias at the FBI? NO





welp.

[ChumpDumper]

Klobuchar: “Did you find ANY political bias or any other improper motivation into the opening of the investigation into...”

manafort? NO
papadopolous? NO
Flynn? NO
Carter Page? NO
any systematic political bias at the FBI? NO





welp.BUT HE DIDN'T NOT FIND NO EVIDENCE OF THE ABSENCE OF NO BIAS

[Splits]

Republicans finding religion on FISA is so fuggin' hilarious.

[Spurs Homer]

BUT HE DIDN'T NOT FIND NO EVIDENCE OF THE ABSENCE OF NO BIAS


lol

carter page

a true american victim!

[TSA]

What document was falsified according to the IG? Quote?



https://twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204838310654423042

[Reck]

https://twitter.com/davidharsanyi/status/1204839394286489600

TSA still looking for a loophole win. :lol have a pizza instead

[TSA]

lol

carter page

a true american victim!

:lol today's dems

[ChumpDumper]

:lol today's demsDo you think Trump is a good President?

Yes or no.

[Spurs Homer]

:lol today's dems

todays republi-cunts

”FISA WATCHDOGS”

:clap

[Reck]

Do you think Trump is a good President?

Yes or no.

Better than Lincoln. Didn't you hear?

[RandomGuy]

https://twitter.com/TrumpWarRoom/status/1204806903634767874

So no bias and they are totally exonerated. Got it.

[TSA]

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1204801368764092420

damn :lol

[spurraider21]

Horowitz said the Steele dossier was the only evidence the FBI had that Page was somehow an agent of Russia. If that is the only evidence they had what evidence could they have had before receiving the Steele dossier?
im going by his word that they had enough suspicion to want a warrant but insufficient evidence to get one

[RandomGuy]

Republicans finding religion on FISA is so fuggin' hilarious.

Republicans never met a police power they didn't like... until it gets used against a Republican. THEN it is suddenly a problem.

[TSA]

So no bias and they are totally exonerated. Got it.

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[RandomGuy]

Do you think Trump is a good President?

Yes or no.

He doesn't. Which boggles the mind.

Even TSA knows Trump is a clueless blowhard in the grips of dementia. If he thought otherwise he would be all over it. Unethical, but not entirely stupid.

[RandomGuy]

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No need to read the report. I read some excerpts, so I know exactly what is in it.

No bias and they are totally exonerated.

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1204801368764092420

damn :lolI'd be spying on Trump right now to find out why he lets foreign dictators ream his ass regularly.

[RandomGuy]

I'd be spying on Trump right now to find out why he lets foreign dictators ream his ass regularly.

You KNOW that his cell phone has been compromised. I can't think of a more high value espionage target in the world than President Sundown's unsecured cell phone.

[boutons_deux]

CP fucking LIVED in fucking Russia for 3 years,

and while working for Trash in 2016, visited Russia AGAIN.

Trash who has been connected to/financed by/groomed by Russia for 30+ years

OF COURSE, CP would be suspected.

Again, how many people in Trash's mafiya and hires were, are connected to Russia?

That ain't no fucking coincidence.

[LkrFan]

https://twitter.com/TeaPainUSA/status/1204853935040860162?s=19

[TSA]

CP fucking LIVED in fucking Russia for 3 years,

and while working for Trash in 2016, visited Russia AGAIN.

Trash who has been connected to/financed by/groomed by Russia for 30+ years

OF COURSE, CP would be suspected.

Again, how many people in Trash's mafiya and hires were, are connected to Russia?

That ain't no fucking coincidence.

Page was a vetted CIA source who assisted on cases putting Russians in prison you dipshit :lol

[TSA]

welp

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1204853574167126017

[Winehole23]

1204859614694522881

[TSA]

Kamala Harris asking Horowitz about online gambling :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

welp

https://mobile.twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1204853574167126017
Does he actually know what FISA warrants uncover?

I'm gonna say probably not.

[ChumpDumper]

1204859614694522881Let's be clear.

The FBI and Ukrainians HELPED Trump get elected.

[boutons_deux]

Page was a vetted CIA source who assisted on cases putting Russians in prison you dipshit :lol

why didn't the CIA tell the FBI? deep state sand bagging?

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204860635504357380

:corn:

[TSA]

why didn't the CIA tell the FBI? deep state sand bagging?

They did you dipshit :lol The FBI altered an email from the CIA and hid that fact from the FISC.

[Winehole23]

So then, there was ample predication and no political bias, but serious procedural errors.

[ChumpDumper]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Shem_Infinite/status/1204860635504357380

:corn::lmao another can kicked

You're never going to call your shot again after Horowitz shit in your mouth.

[Winehole23]

:lmao another can kicked

You're never going to call your shot again after Horowitz shit in your mouth.TSA acting like it's good gravy

[spurraider21]

from this


What is your prediction for the OIG investigation?


The unlawful exoneration of Hillary Clinton by political operatives in the DOJ/FBI.

The unlawful destruction of evidence; and the manipulation of investigative protocols to gain a specific and pre-planned political outcome. (Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe)

The unlawful use of the FISA court for political spy operations by the DOJ/FBI.

The unlawful use of the Dept of Justice National Security Division. For weaponized political benefit. (Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, Bruce Ohr)

The unlawful use of the FBI Counterintelligence Division. For weaponized political benefit. (James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, James Baker)

The unlawful use of a Special Counsel (Mueller) investigation to hide the conspiracy; (James Baker, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Andrew Weissman, Jeannie Rhee, Aaron Zebley)

to this


the altered email we read about:


Omitted Page's prior relationship with another U.S. governmentagency, despite being reminded by the other agency in June 2017,prior to the filing of the final renewal application, about Page's paststatus with that other agency; instead of including this information inthe final renewal application, the FBI OGC Attorney altered an emailfrom the other agency so that the email stated that Page was "not asource" for the other agency, which the FBI affiant relied upon insigning the final renewal application;


fuck that is worse than what was initially thought

:lol

[Nathan89]

"However, Horowitz describes at great length an FBI whose “serious” procedural problems and omissions of “significant information” in pursuit of surveillance authority all fell in the direction of expanding the unprecedented investigation of a presidential candidate (later, a president)."

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

This cancerous ideology will destroy any institution. Disgusting people tbh.

[ChumpDumper]

"However, Horowitz describes at great length an FBI whose “serious” procedural problems and omissions of “significant information” in pursuit of surveillance authority all fell in the direction of expanding the unprecedented investigation of a presidential candidate (later, a president)."

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/political-commentary/horowitz-report-steele-dossier-collusion-news-media-924944/

This cancerous ideology will destroy any institution. Disgusting people tbh.Why does Trump let dictators ream his ass regularly?

[Nathan89]

"There are too many to list in one column, but the Horowitz report show years of breathless headlines were wrong."

Referencing the agenda driven fake news aka the enemy of the people.

[DarrinS]

1204818378394886144

:lol

[Nathan89]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1204775949734154240?s=20

:clap

[ChumpDumper]

Alt-right former Bernie bro wants accountability for fake news?

:lmao

[Splits]

from this





to this





:lol


The unlawful exoneration of Hillary Clinton by political operatives in the DOJ/FBI.

The unlawful destruction of evidence; and the manipulation of investigative protocols to gain a specific and pre-planned political outcome. (Peter Strzok, Andrew McCabe)

The unlawful use of the FISA court for political spy operations by the DOJ/FBI.

The unlawful use of the Dept of Justice National Security Division. For weaponized political benefit. (Sally Yates, Loretta Lynch, Bruce Ohr)

The unlawful use of the FBI Counterintelligence Division. For weaponized political benefit. (James Comey, Andrew McCabe, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, James Baker)

The unlawful use of a Special Counsel (Mueller) investigation to hide the conspiracy; (James Baker, Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Ohr, Andrew Weissman, Jeannie Rhee, Aaron Zebley)


Now, are you going to accept the ELE bet yes or no?

#neverforgetConservativeTreehouse

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/03/fusion-gps-tries-and-fails-to-distance-themselves-from-fbi-fisa-origin/

[ChumpDumper]

#neverforgetConservativeTreehouse

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/01/03/fusion-gps-tries-and-fails-to-distance-themselves-from-fbi-fisa-origin/:lmao rubes pimping grocers

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/Timcast/status/1204775949734154240?s=20

:clap
they go through a laundry list of "fake news" items, and there's only one that really stands out to me, otherwise, it's a bunch of duds for things that are supposed to be examples of "fake news.

the legit one is the NBC news story that claimed the dossier made up of a "small part" of the FISA application. i commented on this yesterday as well. they also call it "press figures" but it just goes back to that nbc story


Press figures have derided the idea that Steele was crucial to the FISA application, with some insisting it was only a “small part (https://www.nbcnews.com/news/crime-courts/why-team-trump-wrong-about-carter-page-dossier-secret-warrant-n893666)” of the application.

so that one i'll grant as inaccurate reporting (the one linked NBC article). lets keep going down their list


There was gnashing of teeth when Nunes first released his memo in January, 2018. The press universally crapped on his letter, with a Washington Post piece calling it a “joke” and a “sham (https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/wp/2018/02/02/the-nunes-memo-is-out-its-a-joke-and-a-sham/).”
naturally, the link goes to an op-ed piece, not a news story. op-eds are not purported to be news reporting. so thats a poor example. besides, i still think nunes memo went above and beyond saying the court was misled as to steele's bias. that was disclosed.


The “pee tape” story, which inspired countless grave headlines (see this chin-scratching New York Times history of Russian “sexual blackmail (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/11/world/europe/donald-trump-russia.html)”) and plunged the Trump presidency into crisis before it began, was, this source said, based a “conversation that [he/she] had over beers,” with the sexual allegations made… in “jest”!
the new york times article they link to refers to dossier as "uncorroborated and highly defamatory." so how is that fake news? they said russia has tended to use blackmail of this type, and that these specific allegations dont have much merit to them. that's accurate reporting. not fake news.

these are mostly poor examples of what is supposed to be your "enemy of the people"

[RandomGuy]

from this





to this





:lol

:lol unlawful exoneration

[Splits]

:lmao rubes pimping grocers

SUNDANCE

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/the-scheme.jpg

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/christopher-wray-comey-strzok-page-mccabe-baker.jpg?w=1024&h=568

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2018/01/mccabe-page-baker-w-strzok-inset.jpg

https://theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com/2017/12/fbi-nation-security-division-chart-2.jpg

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2016/12/09/us/pizzagate-copy/pizzagate-copy-facebookJumbo-v5.png

[spurraider21]

should thrown in pepesilvia in the middle

[DarrinS]

Alt-right former Bernie bro wants accountability for fake news?

:lmao


You think Tim Pool is alt-right?

:lmao

[spurraider21]

You think Tim Pool is alt-right?

:lmao
think he's referring to nathan

[ChumpDumper]

You think Tim Pool is alt-right?

:lmao:lmao Nathan is, genius.

:lmao Darrin

[Winehole23]

Coffee boy

1204795149081026566

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204847596017205249?s=19

[spurraider21]

Coffee boy

1204795149081026566
pay to play good now

[Chris]

Inspector Horowitz admits that the warrant to spy on the Trump campaign was based "entirely" on information from the debunked Steele Dossier.

eeeyup

[spurraider21]

https://twitter.com/RepMarkMeadows/status/1204847596017205249?s=19
a lot of problems within the FBI tbh

but he couldnt find any intent or bias that drove any of the mistakes

[DarrinS]

think he's referring to nathan

Oh

[Chris]

https://twitter.com/CaliforniaPanda/status/1204807961136246792?s=19

[Splits]

should thrown in pepesilvia in the middle

Saving that for Durham

[koriwhat]

You think Tim Pool is alt-right?

:lmao

:lmao i listen to tim pool daily and he is not far-right whatsoever. those that claim he is are only upset because he doesn't demonize our president yet he has no problem stating over and over again that he doesn't like DJT in or out of office.

[Splits]

:cry our president :cry

[koriwhat]

:cry not my president :cry

he's yours too faggot! :tu

[RandomGuy]

Coffee boy

1204795149081026566

That sums up the entire GOP here, Chucho part of what I was talking about in terms of "tone" for the current administration. Trump is a very, very poor manager/CEO, and the tone at the top is promulgated throughout an organization.

[DMX7]

Now that the FBI has been totally vindicated it's time to move on.

[Splits]

he's yours too faggot! :tu

I don't live in your shithole country.

You get your passport yet?

[koriwhat]

I don't live in your shithole country

even better! glad you live in some other shithole tbh... :tu

[Splits]

even better! glad you live in some other shithole tbh... :tu

So you admit you live in a shithole. Progress.

[Spurs Homer]

Witch hunt- debunked
coup- debunked
historic scandal - debunked
deep state- debunked
corrupt fbi- debunked
spying- debunked
wiretapping- debunked
ukraine meddled- debunked
russia hoax- debunked



trump owned by russia - confirmed

[koriwhat]

So you admit you live in a shithole. Progress.

the world as a whole is a shithole tbh

[koriwhat]

Witch hunt- debunked
coup- debunked
historic scandal - debunked
deep state- debunked
corrupt fbi- debunked
spying- debunked
wiretapping- debunked
ukraine meddled- debunked
russia hoax- debunked



trump owned by russia - confirmed

whatever you have to tell yourself to cope with your TDS. :tu

[DarrinS]

Watching Democrat narratives collapse

https://media.giphy.com/media/lGV8Xw3pCyB20/giphy.gif

[Splits]

the world as a whole is a shithole tbh

Considering you don't have a passport, the above statement is either total bullshit or fake news

[Nathan89]

:lmao Nathan is, genius.

:lmao Darrin

Also false.

[spurraider21]

Watching Democrat narratives collapse

https://media.giphy.com/media/lGV8Xw3pCyB20/giphy.gif

I think the Russia collusion theory is vacuous and was initiated by the dossier.

https://media.giphy.com/media/lGV8Xw3pCyB20/giphy.gif

[RandomGuy]

Watching Democrat narratives collapse

https://media.giphy.com/media/lGV8Xw3pCyB20/giphy.gif

Useful.
Idiot.

[TSA]

https://media.giphy.com/media/lGV8Xw3pCyB20/giphy.gif

:lol scouring the forum for the tiniest of wins today

[koriwhat]

Considering you don't have a passport, the above statement is either total bullshit or fake news

don't need nor want a passport these days... i have no interest in europe as a whole or anywhere else for that matter tbh.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204567204869681153

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204569038954881024

https://mobile.twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204573511798460416

But were they accurate? :lol

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204577157693005824

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204580235049652224

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204586942739992576

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204591295089565696

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204599152501542912

:lmao

[RandomGuy]

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:lmao

TLDR.

[spurraider21]

:lol tweets dont have the same editorial standards as the actual publications...

[ChumpDumper]

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204577157693005824

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204580235049652224

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204586942739992576

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204591295089565696

https://twitter.com/Techno_Fog/status/1204599152501542912

:lmaoSo many tweets for the tiniest of Ws.

[TSA]

TLDR.

Ok here is something shorter for you

https://mobile.twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/1204868090875564032

[TSA]

:lol tweets dont have the same editorial standards as the actual publications...

No shit.

What percent of those do you think were posted here to bolster one’s position? I’m thinking around 75%.

[spurraider21]

No shit.
thats why i think its weak to look at tweets and op-eds and cry fake news. the actual news goes through more rigorous editorial standards and vetting. sometimes they still get things wrong, in which case they should retract and correct


What percent of those do you think were posted here to bolster one’s position? I’m thinking around 75%.
djohn is a tweetbot so i have no doubt hed had posted a bunch of these

i have consistently said people shouldnt be getting their news from tweets, have i not?

[RandomGuy]

thats why i think its weak to look at tweets and op-eds and cry fake news. the actual news goes through more rigorous editorial standards and vetting. sometimes they still get things wrong, in which case they should retract and correct


djohn is a tweetbot so i have no doubt hed had posted a bunch of these

i have consistently said people shouldnt be getting their news from tweets, have i not?

Agreed. Only real use for tweets is to link something from more credible sources. In that case I would simply bypass a tweet storm and post a link directly.

[TSA]

thats why i think its weak to look at tweets and op-eds and cry fake news. the actual news goes through more rigorous editorial standards and vetting. sometimes they still get things wrong, in which case they should retract and correct


djohn is a tweetbot so i have no doubt hed had posted a bunch of these

i have consistently said people shouldnt be getting their news from tweets, have i not?

I’m not crying about fake news I’m laughing at how fucking wrong all these national security writers/lawyers/political pundits got it so wrong. Twitter is a very influential platform and it’s used to try to shape the public narrative on a daily basis.
I’m not comparing it to actual news so instead of trying to debate that why don’t you just sit back loosen up and laugh at them with me :lol

[RandomGuy]

Ok here is something shorter for you

https://mobile.twitter.com/thebradfordfile/status/1204868090875564032

So a report hundreds of pages long boils down to 25 seconds of stillted ass questioning from some piece of shit Republican in congress? Not watching it.

GTFO.

[RandomGuy]

I’m not crying about fake news I’m laughing at how fucking wrong all these national security writers/lawyers/political pundits got it so wrong. Twitter is a very influential platform and it’s used to try to shape the public narrative on a daily basis.
I’m not comparing it to actual news so instead of trying to debate that why don’t you just sit back loosen up and laugh at them with me :lol

:cry the narrative isn't one I like :cry

[TSA]

So a report hundreds of pages long boils down to 25 seconds of stillted ass questioning from some piece of shit Republican in congress? Not watching it.

GTFO.

Actually not a single question or word from a Republican in Congress it’s 25 seconds of Horowitz. Still not watching it?

[TSA]

:cry the narrative isn't one I like :cry

Could you project any harder right now? :lol

[RandomGuy]

Actually not a single question or word from a Republican in Congress it’s 25 seconds of Horowitz. Still not watching it?

Watched it. Nothing really new. It is merely the narrative you want to push, just like those you decry as being wrong.

[TSA]

Watched it. Nothing really new. It is merely the narrative you want to push, just like those you decry as being wrong.

Who would have thought the Obama appointed IG would be helping me of all people to push a narrative :rollin

[spurraider21]

I’m not crying about fake news I’m laughing at how fucking wrong all these national security writers/lawyers/political pundits got it so wrong. Twitter is a very influential platform and it’s used to try to shape the public narrative on a daily basis.
I’m not comparing it to actual news so instead of trying to debate that why don’t you just sit back loosen up and laugh at them with me :lol
lets not pretend just earlier in this thread you weren't calling the WaPo and NYT articles (not tweets) fake news when they gave the overview of what the IG report conclusions would be

:lol but arite i'll throw you a bone we can look back at things somebody else got wrong based on reading or misreading tweets


:lmao Dossier actually not used for FBI investigation


3-4 Major publications have all stated his report will find no wrongdoing by the FBI. None. No bias. Everything legal. Oh and No FISA abuse :)

[RandomGuy]

Could you project any harder right now? :lol

Talk about an ironic post. Given your derision of those who had the nerve to speak truth to power for the corrupt wanna-be dictator you seem to be working to serve.

The people who devote their lives to public service are so ethical and competent, you have a hard time comprehending them. Rather than seeing them as what they say they are, you view them through some stilted filter of whatever echo chamber you seem to get your information from.

You would do well to put some serious effort into learning critical thinking processes. Your lack of critical thinking has led you to some serious errors that you don't seem to be learning anything from. We have pointed them out to you repeatedly, but you have not given any indication that you have the self-awareness to re-visit your thinking processes.

You would do well to put some effort into moral reasoning. But that goes for most people. I think if you did you might see the echo chamber of cynicism for what it is.

[TSA]

lets not pretend just earlier in this thread you weren't calling the WaPo and NYT articles (not tweets) fake news when they gave the overview of what the IG report conclusions would be

:lol but arite i'll throw you a bone we can look back at things somebody else got wrong based on reading or misreading tweets

I said I was wary of those articles specifically because of the authors and their previous reporting on the Russia investigation.

And :lol djohn is too easy of a target. Seriously starting to feel bad for the guy.

[TSA]

Talk about an ironic post. Given your derision of those who had the nerve to speak truth to power for the corrupt wanna-be dictator you seem to be working to serve.

The people who devote their lives to public service are so ethical and competent, you have a hard time comprehending them. Rather than seeing them as what they say they are, you view them through some stilted filter of whatever echo chamber you seem to get your information from.

You would do well to put some serious effort into learning critical thinking processes. Your lack of critical thinking has led you to some serious errors that you don't seem to be learning anything from. We have pointed them out to you repeatedly, but you have not given any indication that you have the self-awareness to re-visit your thinking processes.

You would do well to put some effort into moral reasoning. But that goes for most people. I think if you did you might see the echo chamber of cynicism for what it is.

I devoted 8 years of my life to public service I can comprehend them just fine :rollin

I called the Trump/Russia hoax and FISA abuse. My critical thinking is fine. You’re projecting again.

[spurraider21]

I devoted 8 years of my life to public service I can comprehend them just fine :rollin

I called the Trump/Russia hoax and FISA abuse. My critical thinking is fine. You’re projecting again.
i think you're using hoax pretty loosely. it was a legitimate investigation that ultimately didnt produce evidence to support charges. not the first time that ever happened

[boutons_deux]

I called the Trump/Russia hoax and FISA abuse.

your ankle-biting asshole is WRONG on both

[TSA]

i think you're using hoax pretty loosely. it was a legitimate investigation that ultimately didnt produce evidence to support charges. not the first time that ever happened

When using hoax I’m referring to the Trump/Russia narrative that was pushed for 2+ years. Called the investigation results as well. Along with the Steele dossier being bullshit. I just find it hilarious when RG goes on these holier than thou rants while refusing to see his lack of critical thinking and echo chamber sources are what caused him to buy into the false narratives in the first place.

[TSA]

your ankle-biting asshole is WRONG on both

Log into use GingerLimited modeTSA; 10005874] I×

Why do you need to use Ginger software to type? :lol

[spurraider21]

When using hoax I’m referring to the Trump/Russia narrative that was pushed for 2+ years. Called the investigation results as well. Along with the Steele dossier being bullshit. I just find it hilarious when RG goes on these holier than thou rants while refusing to see his lack of critical thinking and echo chamber sources are what caused him to buy into the false narratives in the first place.
what i mean is its hard to call it a hoax just because it didnt lead to charges being pressed. there was still a legitimate investigation into it. wasnt something the fbi concocted just to nail trump

[TSA]

what i mean is its hard to call it a hoax just because it didnt lead to charges being pressed. there was still a legitimate investigation into it. wasnt something the fbi concocted just to nail trump

Might want to pump the brakes on that until you hear what Barr and Durham found out in Rome. This thing is far from over. Some here will laugh at me for saying this like they always do and down the road I’ll get to shit on them like I always do.

:bobo

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/1204809958077816833

:lol Comey vindicated

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1204869760170770432

I’ve always respected Wallace and I hope he makes Comey answer for this bullshit on Sunday.

[spurraider21]

https://mobile.twitter.com/ABC/status/1204809958077816833

:lol Comey vindicated
again, depends... vindicated as to what? as to the claims that he was plotting to take down trump and invented a bogus investigation? yeah. as to the claims that the fbi did nothing wrong throughout the process? nope

[spurraider21]

https://mobile.twitter.com/MZHemingway/status/1204869760170770432

I’ve always respected Wallace and I hope he makes Comey answer for this bullshit on Sunday.
well, they knew the dossier was unverified. thats different than knowing the claims had specifically been refuted.

i think wallace will grill him generally as to the report and all the wrongdoing

[ElNono]

https://twitter.com/ChuckRossDC/status/1204800861957963776

We know Page was on the receiving end of the FISA applications. That doesn’t mean he was wronged.

[ElNono]

Might want to pump the brakes on that until you hear what Barr and Durham found out in Rome. This thing is far from over. Some here will laugh at me for saying this like they always do and down the road I’ll get to shit on them like I always do.

:bobo

The problem with Barr and Durham is that they’re politically attached to Trump.

That’s why the IGC investigation always had more value, whatever the result.

[TSA]

well, they knew the dossier was unverified. thats different than knowing the claims had specifically been refuted.

i think wallace will grill him generally as to the report and all the wrongdoing

That specific claim was specifically refuted to the FBI almost a year before.

[MultiTroll]

well, they knew the dossier was unverified. thats different than knowing the claims had specifically been refuted.

i think wallace will grill him generally as to the report and all the wrongdoing
Was brought out word for word that the guy who initiated this pee talk said it was purely hearsay, for all he knew it was bullshit.
So why even bring it up, Comey? Obvious bitch ass Comey was trying to smear Don.

I'd say the exact same thing if some rumor about Hillary being peed on by lesbos was some hearsay rumor with no verification. Should not even have been allowed.
You know as a lawyer it's like the ancient trick of asking some super loaded salacious question to pollute and manipulate the jury and then saying "I'll withdraw the question your honor."

Comey should be grilled over this. Of course he will have some evasive bullshit answer.

[TSA]

The problem with Barr and Durham is that they’re politically attached to Trump.

That’s why the IGC investigation always had more value, whatever the result.

Horowitz report was brutal for the FBI, but even he admitted his limitations. Both Barr and Durham don’t immediately come out with those statements if they don’t have the goods.

[ChumpDumper]

Horowitz report was brutal for the FBI, but even he admitted his limitations. Both Barr and Durham don’t immediately come out with those statements if they don’t have the goods.:lol Durham gave Horowitz his goods and Horowitz said it affected nothing.

[spurraider21]

horowitz also raised his concerns as to how somebody heading an ongoing investigations can even have any opinions as to the conclusions... that signals his conclusions are pre-determined

[ElNono]

Horowitz report was brutal for the FBI, but even he admitted his limitations. Both Barr and Durham don’t immediately come out with those statements if they don’t have the goods.

What statements, that they disagree with the IG conclusion?

One limitation the IG didn’t have was access to evidence, so not quite sure what these ‘goods’ supposedly are and how they were missed by the IG...

[TSA]

horowitz also raised his concerns as to how somebody heading an ongoing investigations can even have any opinions as to the conclusions... that signals his conclusions are pre-determined

That portion of his investigation could already be concluded, thus determined. Did Horowitz interview anyone in Italy? Australia? Mifsud? Halper? No. Barr and Durham did. Horowitz was limited in that regard.

[TSA]

What statements, that they disagree with the IG conclusion?

One limitation the IG didn’t have was access to evidence, so not quite sure what these ‘goods’ supposedly are and how they were missed by the IG...

Horowitz testified his access to evidence was limited. Limited to government phones, limited to government emails, limited to the FBI/DOJ, and limited to those still currently in the government. Think of how many high level officials were out of government when he was investigating. Zero subpoena power there. Horowitz couldn’t investigate the CIA, and according to Brennan he kick started the whole thing.

“I wanted to make sure that every information and bit of intelligence that we had was shared with the bureau [FBI] so that they could take it. It was well beyond my mandate as director of CIA to follow on any of those leads that involved U.S. persons. But I made sure that anything that was involving U.S. persons, including anything involving the individuals involved in the Trump campaign, was shared with the bureau.”

Do you now see Horowitz limitations to evidence?

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/GrassleyPress/status/1204897911735238656

:lol muh letters from Congress

[ElNono]

Horowitz testified his access to evidence was limited. Limited to government phones, limited to government emails, limited to the FBI/DOJ, and limited to those still currently in the government. Think of how many high level officials were out of government when he was investigating. Zero subpoena power there. Horowitz couldn’t investigate the CIA, and according to Brennan he kick started the whole thing.

“I wanted to make sure that every information and bit of intelligence that we had was shared with the bureau [FBI] so that they could take it. It was well beyond my mandate as director of CIA to follow on any of those leads that involved U.S. persons. But I made sure that anything that was involving U.S. persons, including anything involving the individuals involved in the Trump campaign, was shared with the bureau.”

Do you now see Horowitz limitations to evidence?

No I haven’t heard that testimony from Horowitz. When was that?

[DarrinS]

13 minutes of fail

But, especially starting at 11:15

:lol



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cRXQkjpQ2A

[TSA]

No I haven’t heard that testimony from Horowitz. When was that?

That’ll be a tough one for me to find. I’ll take a brief look.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/alx/status/1204843280355266562

[RandomGuy]

i think you're using hoax pretty loosely. it was a legitimate investigation that ultimately didnt produce evidence to support charges. not the first time that ever happened

The problem is that most of the people who were charged were foreign nationals and unavailable to investigators, and so many of the people that were investigated actively lied and destroyed evidence. That very heavy caveat hangs over all of this.

[RandomGuy]

I devoted 8 years of my life to public service I can comprehend them just fine :rollin

I called the Trump/Russia hoax and FISA abuse. My critical thinking is fine. You’re projecting again.

(shrugs) I have little doubt you understand the public service part. The part I am questioning is the ethical and competent part.

If your critical thinking is that great, why did you fall for pizzagate? You carry a reminder of your failure in critical thinking in each post here. Does that not concern you?

[DarrinS]

(shrugs) I have little doubt you understand the public service part. The part I am questioning is the ethical and competent part.

If your critical thinking is that great, why did you fall for pizzagate? You carry a reminder of your failure in critical thinking in each post here. Does that not concern you?


Look at his sig

But, I guess pizza shit is your participation trophy

[spurraider21]

The problem is that most of the people who were charged were foreign nationals and unavailable to investigators, and so many of the people that were investigated actively lied and destroyed evidence. That very heavy caveat hangs over all of this.
thats not even relevant to the point. just because there were no charges doesnt mean the investigation was a hoax

[DarrinS]

thats not even relevant to the point. just because there were no charges doesnt mean the investigation was a hoax

The collusion part was the "hoax", not Russian election meddling

[RandomGuy]

The collusion part was the "hoax", not Russian election meddling

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Sergey-Lavrov-and-Donald-Trump.png

[DarrinS]

https://www.rawstory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/Sergey-Lavrov-and-Donald-Trump.png


Should I post pics of Obama and Hillary with the same dude?


I'm not sure what your point is here.

[spurraider21]

The collusion part was the "hoax", not Russian election meddling
I stand by my last comment

[angrydude]

Whoever wrote that headline has serious reading comprehension problems.

[angrydude]

(shrugs) I have little doubt you understand the public service part. The part I am questioning is the ethical and competent part.

If your critical thinking is that great, why did you fall for pizzagate? You carry a reminder of your failure in critical thinking in each post here. Does that not concern you?

You'd make a great cop. You: "Did you rob the bank?". Bank Robber: "No." You:"Ok, that proves you didn't rob the bank."

[angrydude]

Who would have thought the Obama appointed IG would be helping me of all people to push a narrative :rollin

What the hell does he know? He only wrote the damn thing.

[ElNono]

That’ll be a tough one for me to find. I’ll take a brief look.

I find it hard to believe he would omit such an important piece of information from the report. The report itself actually touts the large amount of interviewed personnel, evidentiary documents and thoroughness.

Nevertheless, even if it’s true, it does nothing to dispel the notion that Barr and Durham are much more politically expedient to the administration. Which doesn’t mean whatever findings and proceedings should be discarded outright (much like the Steel report wasn’t), but certainly any announcements should probably be scrutinized with that in mind (personally I would be more interested in actual criminal case outcomes, if any).

[djohn2oo8]

If the IG report said what the Republicans wanted it to say then Barr wouldn’t be disputing their findings

[RandomGuy]

If the IG report said what the Republicans wanted it to say then Barr wouldn’t be disputing their findings

EXACTLY.

[RandomGuy]

Should I post pics of Obama and Hillary with the same dude?


I'm not sure what your point is here.

Sure. Feel free to show where the Russian embassador is looming over him in the oval office.

Maybe you can show a picture of Obama sharing classified information with him? :rollin

[RandomGuy]

You'd make a great cop. You: "Did you rob the bank?". Bank Robber: "No." You:"Ok, that proves you didn't rob the bank."

Not really.

I tend to mostly take people at their word, but always seek to verify outside sources if at all possible.

8 years is a standard stint in the military, so that makes sense. I would guess, with low confidence, some non-combat arms, since those stints tend to be shorter.

Which is makes my comment on "ethical and competent" part more relevant because you take an oath to defend the constitution, which Trump has shit all over. If TSA were ethical and competent, he would not be supporting him by carrying his water.

[TSA]

EXACTLY.

Not even close. The only thing Barr disagreed with was opening a full blown investigation from comments over drinks from a campaign. He had no problem with a preliminary investigation.

What other findings are you claiming Barr disputed?

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1205220373312266240

:lol

[spurraider21]

Not even close. The only thing Barr disagreed with was opening a full blown investigation from comments over drinks from a campaign. He had no problem with a preliminary investigation.

What other findings are you claiming Barr disputed?
link?

[TSA]

link?

The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-william-p-barr-inspector-generals-report-review-four-fisa

[TSA]

If the IG report said what the Republicans wanted it to say then Barr wouldn’t be disputing their findings

What findings did he dispute?

[spurraider21]

The Inspector General’s report now makes clear that the FBI launched an intrusive investigation of a U.S. presidential campaign on the thinnest of suspicions that, in my view, were insufficient to justify the steps taken.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-attorney-general-william-p-barr-inspector-generals-report-review-four-fisa
where does he say that he'd be cool with a preliminary investigation?

[TSA]

where does he say that he'd be cool with a preliminary investigation?

LRKFo0JmuBc

38 seconds in. Specifically disagreed with the “full blown” investigation.

[spurraider21]

LRKFo0JmuBc

38 seconds in. Specifically disagreed with the “full blown” investigation.
:lol that's awfully thin, brah

i believe at his hearing, horowitz did say that durham felt that way (preliminary investigation)... dont know if we've seen anything from barr that says that.

though of course barr/durham are uncomfortably close with this investigation, so i'm assuming we can basically impute durham's opinions onto barr and vice versa

[DarrinS]

:lol that's awfully thin, brah

i believe at his hearing, horowitz did say that durham felt that way (preliminary investigation)... dont know if we've seen anything from barr that says that.

though of course barr/durham are uncomfortably close with this investigation, so i'm assuming we can basically impute durham's opinions onto barr and vice versa


Uncomfortably close? :lol

[spurraider21]

Uncomfortably close? :lol
yep

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/politics/barr-chicago-durham-interview/index.html

[koriwhat]

yep

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/politics/barr-chicago-durham-interview/index.html (https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/politics/barr-chicago-durham-interview/index.html)

ding

[TSA]

yep

https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/28/politics/barr-chicago-durham-interview/index.html

So he spoke with other countries officials at their request and used the proper diplomatic channels. What’s the problem?

[spurraider21]

ding
the article is full of direct quotes from barr

so really the ding is you disregarding direct quotes because they were posted on a website you dont like :lol

[spurraider21]

So he spoke with other countries officials at their request and used the proper diplomatic channels. What’s the problem?
i didnt say he used improper channels. its just very clear that he has a vested interest in the outcome of durham's investigation, in that he really wants it to give a specific set of results.

[koriwhat]

the article is full of direct quotes from barr

so really the ding is you disregarding direct quotes because they were posted on a website you dont like :lol

nah, it's called sarcasm but you're a square so... as well, fuck CNN and i will never ever read their garbage no matter how accurate you claim it to be.

[TSA]

:lol that's awfully thin, brah

i believe at his hearing, horowitz did say that durham felt that way (preliminary investigation)... dont know if we've seen anything from barr that says that.

though of course barr/durham are uncomfortably close with this investigation, so i'm assuming we can basically impute durham's opinions onto barr and vice versa

Awfully thin was opening up a full blown investigation into a Presidential campaign based on some gossip Papadapolous heard that he repeated to someone else who eventually got it to the US government. Horowitz said it was properly opened because the bar to open an FBI investigation is extremely low and just needs an articulable fact. Horowitz and Barr can both be correct. It was properly opened but the articulable fact was flimsy, especially considering this was an investigation into a Presidential campaign. Do you think Papadapolous comment warranted a full blown investigation?

And do you know of anything else Barr disagreed with in the IG report? I don’t think djohn and RG are going to answer.

[koriwhat]

he really wants it to give a specific set of results.

hopefully the outcome is hanging hillary and her cronies on nat'l tv! :tu

[TSA]

i didnt say he used improper channels. its just very clear that he has a vested interest in the outcome of durham's investigation, in that he really wants it to give a specific set of results.

Of course he has a vested interest he’s the Attorney General and believes his a President had a bullshit FBI investigation opened against him. After reading the IG report I don’t see how you can see otherwise.

[spurraider21]

Awfully thin was opening up a full blown investigation
lazy subject changing tactic.


into a Presidential campaign based on some gossip Papadapolous heard that he repeated to someone else who eventually got it to the US government. Horowitz said it was properly opened because the bar to open an FBI investigation is extremely low and just needs an articulable fact. Horowitz and Barr can both be correct. It was properly opened but the articulable fact was flimsy, especially considering this was an investigation into a Presidential campaign. Do you think Papadapolous comment warranted a full blown investigation?
"full blown" is vague. i'll defer to the findings of the obama-appointed IG. he thought it was justified


And do you know of anything else Barr disagreed with in the IG report? I don’t think djohn and RG are going to answer.
i dont. i also dont see any mention of him discussing that a preliminary investigation would have been appropriate

[spurraider21]

Of course he has a vested interest he’s the Attorney General and believes his a President had a bullshit FBI investigation opened against him. After reading the IG report I don’t see how you can see otherwise.
his job isnt to protect the president

[spurraider21]

hopefully the outcome is hanging hillary and her cronies on nat'l tv! :tu
you're stillwithher

[koriwhat]

you're stillwithher

i'm still with #hangthatcunthrc

[TSA]

lazy subject changing tactic.


"full blown" is vague. i'll defer to the findings of the obama-appointed IG. he thought it was justified


i dont. i also dont see any mention of him discussing that a preliminary investigation would have been appropriate

Barr expands on full blown in the interview I linked. Wired CHS’s, undercover FBI agents, FISA warrants. Do you think the Papadapolous comment warranted all that? And you can’t fall back on Horowitz that, he made judgement on clearing the low bar to open, not what followed.

[ElNono]

i didnt say he used improper channels. its just very clear that he has a vested interest in the outcome of durham's investigation, in that he really wants it to give a specific set of results.

yup, that's the political tie to Trump I was referencing earlier...

[TSA]

his job isnt to protect the president

Protecting the President would have been shutting down the investigation.

[Winehole23]

his job isnt to protect the presidentSay Eric Holder or Loretta Lynch had tasked themselves with second guessing an IG investigation and casting shade on other investigations that reflected poorly on Obama, what would the GOP say then?

There's at least one good reason we have an IG, and that's to prevent the appearance of a conflict of interest that would arise any time a political appointee was put in charge of investigating the person who gave them the job, or, his own department.

[ElNono]

Protecting the President would have been shutting down the investigation.

which one? Durhan isn't investigating the President, he's looking for an excuse to give the prez ammo to play the victim card some more.

[Winehole23]

Protecting the President would have been shutting down the investigation.That's one way.

The way Barr is doing it -- with press interviews, bespoke investigations, and ad hoc opinions about the work product of his own department -- is another.

[spurraider21]

Barr expands on full blown in the interview I linked. Wired CHS’s, undercover FBI agents, FISA warrants. Do you think the Papadapolous comment warranted all that? And you can’t fall back on Horowitz that, he made judgement on clearing the low bar to open, not what followed.
:lol no

[TSA]

Say Eric Holder or Loretta Lynch had tasked themselves with second guessing an IG investigation and casting shade on other investigations that reflected poorly on Obama, what would the GOP say then?

There's at least one good reason we have an IG, and that's to prevent the appearance of a conflict of interest that would arise any time a political appointee was put in charge of investigating the person who gave them the job.

Eric Holder was held in contempt of congress trying to protect his President :rollin

And Barr didn’t second guess the IG report he praised its work. He disagreed on what should have been done rather than what may be done when opening the investigation.

[Winehole23]

Bad for Holder, ok for Barr.

[ElNono]

The Durham investigation will likely be 'completed' right smack in the middle of campaign season (sometimes towards the end of the summer next year), probably with some bombastic declarations, one or two indictments, of which we won't have the results by election night.

Bookmark it and hold me to it. I'll be happy to eat crow if incorrect.

[TSA]

:lol no



Wired CHS’s, undercover FBI agents, FISA warrants. Do you think the Papadapolous comment warranted all that?

[spurraider21]

Wired CHS’s, undercover FBI agents, FISA warrants. Do you think the Papadapolous comment warranted all that?
deferring to obama-appointed IG

[TSA]

deferring to obama-appointed IG

The Obama appointed IG said the regulations permitted it, he didn’t say it was the correct choice of actions.

Wired CHS’s, undercover FBI agents, FISA warrants. Do you think the Papadapolous comment warranted all that?

[spurraider21]

The Obama appointed IG said the regulations permitted it, he didn’t say it was the correct choice of actions.

Wired CHS’s, undercover FBI agents, FISA warrants. Do you think the Papadapolous comment warranted all that?
hindsight is always 20/20

if they uncovered the crime they were looking for we wouldn't be second guessing it at all

[Chris]

https://mobile.twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1205220373312266240

:lol

awesome :tu

[TSA]

hindsight is always 20/20

if they uncovered the crime they were looking for we wouldn't be second guessing it at all

The fake crime the Clinton campaign paid for?

[boutons_deux]

None of the deflecting shit has anything to do with impeachment.

Why has Trash and his mafiya been forgetting, lying, obstructing investigations about their Russian connections?

Why is Trash so subservient to Pootin?

Why are Trash's geopolitical moves matching exactly what Pootin would want him to do?

[boutons_deux]

Trump’s Other Lawyer

Much more powerful than Giuliani,

William Barr is exercising the Justice Department’s full force to defend a president in crisis.

Barr advocates for what is known as the “unitary executive theory,”

which challenges the long-established doctrine that the president’s control over his branch of government is shared, to some degree, with Congress and the courts.

Critics say that in its maximalist form, the theory is a license for authoritarianism

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/12/attorney-general-william-barr-donald-trump-impeachment-hearings.html

So why do Repugs adore and push hard for an autocratic, uncheckable President?

It's just not to implement their perverted interpretation of the Constitution.

When a Repug President becomes an autocrat he will mop up, complete the destruction of govt that the Repugs have been executing for decades, a destruction that has enriched the oligarchy financing the Repugs.

"Government is the problem", cannot do anything good, must be drowned in bathtub, etc, etc.

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/theintercept/status/1205169436841238528

[spurraider21]

The fake crime the Clinton campaign paid for?
investigation started before the that and they wanted a warrant before that

[TSA]

investigation started before the that and they wanted a warrant before that

I already tried asking you questions about the start of the investigation but you were too chickenshit to answer so I moved on :lol

You specifically said the crime they were looking for. What crime were they looking for that didn’t come from the Clinton campaign paid for dossier?

[spurraider21]

I already tried asking you questions about the start of the investigation but you were too chickenshit to answer so I moved on :lol

You specifically said the crime they were looking for. What crime were they looking for that didn’t come from the Clinton campaign paid for dossier?
there was recently a big OIG investigation into all these questions you're asking me :lol

the fbi shouldn't get a free pass for all the fuckups they had. a lot of people should be disciplined/fired tbh. but the opening of the investigation was found to be ok. the methods used (informants, etc) was found to be ok. nobody was planted within the campaign to gain political info. and despite all the potential evidence there, no affirmative finding of bias on any decisions made

you dont have to like the results, but thats what they are. asking me about my opinion of what that report should have said is useless.

[TSA]

*Bias warning* center left former CIA opps officer

https://mobile.twitter.com/BryanDeanWright/status/1204212953907527681

[TSA]

there was recently a big OIG investigation into all these questions you're asking me :lol

Then why are you having so much trouble answering? :lol

Which crime were they looking for?

[spurraider21]

attempted coup despite no charges every being pressed, and no leaks about the investigation prior to the election when they actually could have harmed him. got it.

all trump had to do was not fire comey and have his people not constantly lie to the FBI and public at every turn and it would have been a much more quiet story.

[TSA]

there was recently a big OIG investigation into all these questions you're asking me :lol

the fbi shouldn't get a free pass for all the fuckups they had. a lot of people should be disciplined/fired tbh. but the opening of the investigation was found to be ok. the methods used (informants, etc) was found to be ok. nobody was planted within the campaign to gain political info. and despite all the potential evidence there, no affirmative finding of bias on any decisions made

you dont have to like the results, but thats what they are. asking me about my opinion of what that report should have said is useless.

I’m not trying to get you to get you to say what you or I think the report should have said. I’m asking you to answer questions looking back at the investigation now that you’ve seen the report.

[spurraider21]

I’m not trying to get you to get you to say what you or I think the report should have said. I’m asking you to answer questions looking back at the investigation now that you’ve seen the report.
the report discussed all that. it said what the investigation was about, and what evidence they had at the time they launched the investigation. the report also concluded that based on that, the opening of the investigation was justified.

all before the dossier.

you just want my interpretation on the exact same questions the report covered. after going all-in on horowitz. lol.

if you dont like it, maybe you can start calling him the obama-appointed IG but sans cheekiness

[Winehole23]

attempted coup despite no charges every being pressed, and no leaks about the investigation prior to the election when they actually could have harmed him. got it.

all trump had to do was not fire comey and have his people not constantly lie to the FBI and public at every turn and it would have been a much more quiet story."My administration will cooperate fully with this investigation and will have nothing more to say about it until it is complete; we have full confidence in the justice system to treat us fairly and find the truth. -- we did not break the law"

[ElNono]

the report discussed all that. it said what the investigation was about, and what evidence they had at the time they launched the investigation. the report also concluded that based on that, the opening of the investigation was justified.

all before the dossier.

you just want my interpretation on the exact same questions the report covered. after going all-in on horowitz. lol.

if you dont like it, maybe you can start calling him the obama-appointed IG but sans cheekiness

He didn't read the report. The answers are there. They're answers he's completely in denial about, but it's really not your fault that he won't read the fucking report (and this after having the audacity to ask links for the report that he wasn't going to read anyways).

[RandomGuy]

He didn't read the report. The answers are there. They're answers he's completely in denial about, but it's really not your fault that he won't read the fucking report (and this after having the audacity to ask links for the report that he wasn't going to read anyways).

This. TSA won't read shit that isn't on some conspiracy bullshit website or twitter. He likes his propaganda spoon fed to him. Let others do the work of finding the propaganda nuggets he can use to preserve his worldview. LAZY.

Here is a very good bit on what is going on in his brain. Worth watching for anyone IMO.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_aTN3yKOkY

[RandomGuy]

the article is full of direct quotes from barr

so really the ding is you disregarding direct quotes because they were posted on a website you dont like :lol

The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.

[boutons_deux]

"full of direct quotes from barr"

... therefore, NO credibility except to protect Trash and his crime because Trash's crime is what Barr approves as "legal" for an UnConstitutional Unitary (autocratic) Executive, that Barr has been fighting for, for 45 years.

ie, St Ronnie's Iran-Contra criminals all escaped with Barr as AG, since Iran-Contra crime is "legal" for a Unitary Executive.

[TSA]

the report discussed all that. it said what the investigation was about, and what evidence they had at the time they launched the investigation. the report also concluded that based on that, the opening of the investigation was justified.

all before the dossier.

you just want my interpretation on the exact same questions the report covered. after going all-in on horowitz. lol.

if you dont like it, maybe you can start calling him the obama-appointed IG but sans cheekiness


if they uncovered the crime they were looking for we wouldn't be second guessing it at all

What crime were they looking for?

[TSA]

He didn't read the report. The answers are there. They're answers he's completely in denial about, but it's really not your fault that he won't read the fucking report (and this after having the audacity to ask links for the report that he wasn't going to read anyways).

What answers from the report am I in denial about? Be specific. I keep seeing this claim thrown around that I'm not satisfied with the report and it's laughable.

[RandomGuy]

What answers from the report am I in denial about? Be specific. I keep seeing this claim thrown around that I'm not satisfied with the report and it's laughable.

No bias. Total exoneration.

[spurraider21]

Wired CHS’s, undercover FBI agents, FISA warrants. Do you think the Papadapolous comment warranted all that?
You’re not satisfied with the reports answer to this question.

It was yes.

[TSA]

You’re not satisfied with the reports answer to this question.

It was yes.

The Obama appointed IG said the regulations permitted it, he didn’t say it was the correct choice of actions.

Do you think it was the correct choice of actions by the FBI?

[spurraider21]

The Obama appointed IG said the regulations permitted it, he didn’t say it was the correct choice of actions.

Do you think it was the correct choice of actions by the FBI?
sure. as long as its permissible, i dont have an issue with them investigating potential foreign interference in an election

i understand there's some discretion. i dont know what their norms are so i cant really speak to what are considered their regular practices though, so i'm just giving my opinion without much expertise. but typically if they stay within the rules thats ok by me. if they go beyond the rules, that should be looked into and appropriate discipline be administered to those responsible, with potential criminal charges based on intent which can be proven

[TSA]

sure. as long as its permissible, i dont have an issue with them investigating potential foreign interference in an election

i understand there's some discretion. i dont know what their norms are so i cant really speak to what are considered their regular practices though, so i'm just giving my opinion without much expertise. but typically if they stay within the rules thats ok by me. if they go beyond the rules, that should be looked into and appropriate discipline be administered to those responsible, with potential criminal charges based on intent which can be provenI appreciate you finally answering :bobo


if they uncovered the crime they were looking for we wouldn't be second guessing it at all

What crime were they looking for?

[Spurs Homer]

I appreciate you finally answering :bobo



What crime were they looking for?


doesnt work that way comrade

they follow the evidence and there was a lot more than you are throwing out because you are a shill promoting propaganda

they had so much shit that alarmed the intl and usa intel that it would have been derelict to NOT pursue the evidence


in the end

no hoax, no coup, no bias

just a traitor selling out to an enemy foreign govt and accepting their help to cheat an election


now

he is cheating the next election and only a complete idiot like you would not understand or recognize the pattern of this criminal

even when the criminal commits his crime in your face as he is currently doing

only a complete idiot would take the word of the most prolific liar on the planet



a complete idiot like you comrade.

[spurraider21]

I appreciate you finally answering :bobo
do you have a problem with them opening a permissible investigation as long as their investigative practices were compliant with the law?

would you have been for or against the FBI investigating pizzagate a few years ago?


What crime were they looking for?
probably wouldnt be limited to a single statute or crime, but generally would be in the areas of foreign election interference, with the potential of soliciting/conspiring foreign election interference. thats part of why you have an investigation tbh... you have suspicion of criminal activity and you look into it to see exactly what happened. might be exactly what you thought it was, might be similar or in the same general domain. might be something completely different like money laundering.

i dont know if they had a specific crime in mind down to the code section when they first opened the investigation

you keep trying to phrase things in a way to get around the IG Report's conclusions on this issue :lol

[Spurs Homer]

do you have a problem with them opening a permissible investigation as long as their investigative practices were compliant with the law?

would you have been for or against the FBI investigating pizzagate a few years ago?


probably wouldnt be limited to a single statute or crime, but generally would be in the areas of foreign election interference, with the potential of soliciting/conspiring foreign election interference. thats part of why you have an investigation tbh... you have suspicion of criminal activity and you look into it to see exactly what happened. might be exactly what you thought it was, might be similar or in the same general domain. might be something completely different like money laundering.

i dont know if they had a specific crime in mind down to the code section when they first opened the investigation

LE doesnt “look for” crimes

that is russian influenced propaganda to muddy the water and deflect from LE investigating evidence


LE just follows wherever the evidence leads.

comrade tsa is just unhappy that the fbi was completely correct in their actions and trump did actually team up with russia to cheat an election and got caught.

[DarrinS]

the fbi was completely correct in their actions and trump did actually team up with russia to cheat an election and got caught.



This is an excellent synopsis of the IG's report.


























:lmao

[spurraider21]

This is an excellent synopsis of the IG's report.

:lmao
you dont have that guy on ignore yet?

[DarrinS]

you dont have that guy on ignore yet?

I don't have anyone on ignore

[spurraider21]

I don't have anyone on ignore
damn, your spurstalk experience must be shit :lol... would strongly recommend at least putting boutons on ignore. not having to scroll through those copy/pasted walls of text justifies that alone. particularly on mobile.

i only recently added spurshomer because he just spews nonsense like the post you quoted, but does it with every single post, so there's never anything to gain by reading them. the only righty person i ignore is millenial messiah but i toggle that on and off... mostly because his NFL forum spam gets insufferable sometimes

[ElNono]

What answers from the report am I in denial about? Be specific. I keep seeing this claim thrown around that I'm not satisfied with the report and it's laughable.

The fact that the IG clearly stated there was nothing improper with starting the investigation and the scope of it, but you keep asking posters to answer to you that same question.

We can only surmise you’re not happy with the fact the IG concluded what he concluded, much like Barr isn’t.

[DarrinS]

Ooof


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=31eBO-A5G_I

[RandomGuy]

damn, your spurstalk experience must be shit :lol... would strongly recommend at least putting boutons on ignore. not having to scroll through those copy/pasted walls of text justifies that alone. particularly on mobile.

i only recently added spurshomer because he just spews nonsense like the post you quoted, but does it with every single post, so there's never anything to gain by reading them. the only righty person i ignore is millenial messiah but i toggle that on and off... mostly because his NFL forum spam gets insufferable sometimes

koriwhat is better.

Boutons copy pasta at least has some news to it.

koriwhat... is like a dumber, saltier Darrin.

I haven't regretted my decision at all.

[koriwhat]

bongino brought up a great point today.... the footnote!

[koriwhat]

koriwhat is better.

Boutons copy pasta at least has some news to it.

koriwhat... is like a dumber, saltier Darrin.

I haven't regretted my decision at all.

whatever crybaby

[ChumpDumper]

bongino brought up a great point today.... the footnote!:lmao Vagino

[koriwhat]

^^^ this bitch... you're like an ex that just won't move on.

[spurraider21]

bongino brought up a great point today.... the footnote!
:lol bing bong

[koriwhat]

:lol bing bong

nothing to add of substance huh? you're just hating a dude because well, he ain't a trans-sjw-virtuesignaling-themtheyit-hipster-blah-blah-blah like you are?

[ChumpDumper]

I hate Vagino because of his snowflake lawsuit where he called the Daily Beast a "digital assassin" and proceeded to explain how the first womp in womp-womp is said at a higher pitch than the second.

[spurraider21]

nothing to add of substance huh? you're just hating a dude because well, he ain't a trans-sjw-virtuesignaling-themtheyit-hipster-blah-blah-blah like you are?
i dont like him because he's an admitted partisan hack

[benefactor]

damn, your spurstalk experience must be shit :lol... would strongly recommend at least putting boutons on ignore. not having to scroll through those copy/pasted walls of text justifies that alone. particularly on mobile.

i only recently added spurshomer because he just spews nonsense like the post you quoted, but does it with every single post, so there's never anything to gain by reading them. the only righty person i ignore is millenial messiah but i toggle that on and off... mostly because his NFL forum spam gets insufferable sometimes


koriwhat is better.

Boutons copy pasta at least has some news to it.

koriwhat... is like a dumber, saltier Darrin.

I haven't regretted my decision at all.
I have both on there, along with derp. Derps shtick has become tiresome and I feel like I get dumber every time I read a post from Joey.

[spurraider21]

:lmao bongino's great point... he literally says "horowitz's own report debunks horowitz's report" :lmao

[koriwhat]

I have both on there, along with derp. Derps shtick has become tiresome and I feel like I get dumber every time I read a post from Joey.

you are dumb and you're a pathetic social media stalker with a tongue like a snake you big snitch. :tu

[koriwhat]

:lmao bongino's great point... he literally says "horowitz's own report debunks horowitz's report" :lmao

so you listened to his intro then? nice! tell us more!

[spurraider21]

so you listened to his intro then? nice! tell us more!
he's an idiot.

NOBODY IS PICKING UP ON THIS

it was brought up at the hearing, at 4:33


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5lcEVu3wkQ

[koriwhat]

he's an idiot.

NOBODY IS PICKING UP ON THIS

it was brought up at the hearing, at 4:33


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5lcEVu3wkQ

timeline... AUS(insurance?) or Steele(insurance?)

[TheGreatYacht]

MSNBC Defends FBI Lying & Discredited Dossier

https://youtu.be/6FOzRVoPE94

[Spurs Homer]

No prison for those evil deep state thugs yet?

[pgardn]

MSNBC Defends FBI Lying & Discredited Dossier

https://youtu.be/6FOzRVoPE94

So now stun us with FOX NEWS is partisan.
You watch some real shit.

Do you ever read a non opinion piece and decide for yourself? Ever?

[Thanos]

So how is TSA enjoying the shit sandwich?

[Spurs Homer]

So how is TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) enjoying the shit sandwich?

he found some russian spicy sauce that promised to “make shit taste delicious”


and is chomping down gleefully


next boom- durham uncovers the true deeep state!!!

:rollin:rollin

[Spurs Homer]

That fisa “impossible nothing-burger” is all they could get after three years....bigly sad for the russian team.


:lmao:lmao:lmao

[TSA]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1208013060297969664

https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc%2019%2002%20191217.pdf

wow

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/475053-fisa-courts-rebuke-of-the-fbi-it-broke-or-ignored-the-rules-and-our

The presiding judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) has issued a stinging rebuke to the FBI in the wake of Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz's report on the bureau's serial abuses in the surveillance of Carter Page.

In the FISC's assessment, the derelictions in the Page surveillance warrants are so serious, the court's judges cannot be confident that any warrant applications the FBI has submitted are accurate and complete - i.e., that the bureau's assertions have been true and, even if true, were not misleading because of the omission of relevant information.

[RandomGuy]

https://mobile.twitter.com/CBS_Herridge/status/1208013060297969664

https://www.fisc.uscourts.gov/sites/default/files/MIsc%2019%2002%20191217.pdf

wow

https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/475053-fisa-courts-rebuke-of-the-fbi-it-broke-or-ignored-the-rules-and-our

The presiding judge of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISC) has issued a stinging rebuke to the FBI in the wake of Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz's report on the bureau's serial abuses in the surveillance of Carter Page.

In the FISC's assessment, the derelictions in the Page surveillance warrants are so serious, the court's judges cannot be confident that any warrant applications the FBI has submitted are accurate and complete - i.e., that the bureau's assertions have been true and, even if true, were not misleading because of the omission of relevant information.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/17/read-donald-trump-letter-nancy-pelosi-086529

:lmao

[Winehole23]

Sounds like the FISA court has been deferring to the FBI too much, for too long.

TSA can't be taken seriously if he thinks the problem started when Trump got elected.

[Spurs Homer]

Comey in prison?
mccabe?
ohr?
strock?


coup to remove a “duly elected” president uncovered?
deep state uncovered?



bigfat NO!

:lmao

[spurraider21]

So how is TSA (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=7640) enjoying the shit sandwich?
claiming total victory :lol