The Penthouse Of Josh Primo

[Atl Spur]

I may 100% wrong but on this board what does that matter with all the flawed logic? Good luck to this young man and his draft mate Joe W. Sneaky good solid picks to a bigger picture most can’t see; sit back and let them entertain you!

[pookenstein]

Don't like the position he got drafted, maybe the FO could/should have traded down, but I'll support the kid. Checking in.

[slick'81]

Trust the process mofo's

[the golden era]

Getting here early. Place looks nice!

[8FOR!3]

Trust the process mofo's

We are like the 15-30 draft pick range version of the trust the process 76ers lol

As in, we don't have the franchise players we just have the potential role players we'll see which of them pan out.

[dbestpro]

Penthouse? More like the outhouse.

[Atl Spur]

Penthouse? More like the outhouse.

Your vote has been cast......way to short sighted:) You may end up right but I doubt it; they say this kid is super competitive .

[Atl Spur]

Josh is better than you think�� Please remember, no d*ck riding when he pans out boys!

[Atl Spur]

Josh is better than you think😉 Please remember, no d*ck riding when he pans out boys!

[offset formation]

Your vote has been cast......way to short sighted:) You may end up right but I doubt it; they say this kid is super competitive .

he may be a stud eventually, actually. I'll certainly be rooting for him. but he's a stud that could have been had in the 20s or 30s per every mock draft. we could have had sengun or Moses or garuba AND this kid with a bit of draft maneuvering

[exstatic]

Penthouse? More like the outhouse.

:lol. That’s how I read the thread title the first time.

[Atl Spur]

he may be a stud eventually, actually. I'll certainly be rooting for him. but he's a stud that could have been had in the 20s or 30s per every mock draft. we could have had sengun or Moses or garuba AND this kid with a bit of draft maneuvering

You don’t know that, plenty of times teams have hijacked our suspected selection. No need to get cute risking it for an extra second...

[Atl Spur]

:lol. That’s how I read the thread title the first time.

I expect better from you...oh well.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

I'm still fuming about this pick, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say he'll never be more than a mid-tier role player at best. If he was the target, this team should have moved down to do so while gaining an asset in the process. Mad at the FO for poor drafting strategy than I am that we drafted Primo. As a Spurs fan I'll obviously support him. I'm also hopeful he proves me wrong and turns out to be great.

[Dex]

I'll support anyone who puts on a Spurs uniform, but the Spurs left a lot of really good talent on the board which could have filled some gaping holes in this roster.

Primo is going to have to REALLY develop for me to feel like this wasn't a wasted pick, especially once we see what Sengun or Jones ends up turning into.

I feel like PATFO really over-thought this one.

[dbestpro]

Your vote has been cast......way to short sighted:) You may end up right but I doubt it; they say this kid is super competitive .

So is most kids at the YMCA. I might give it a pass if he was 6-9 or taller but let's face it. This kid is a dime a dozen.

[Atl Spur]

So is most kids at the YMCA. I might give it a pass if he was 6-9 or taller but let's face it. This kid is a dime a dozen.

Ok..... we shall see:) Shouldn’t you at least see him play first on this level before going full ��? I’d hate to see you eat crowe...

[exstatic]

I expect better from you...oh well.

I’ve been willing to entertain all of their picks, to date, even Luka. There have been a couple of instances of unearthed unknown Euro gems, Freak and Joker. There are no unturned stones in the US. Scouts are on these kids when they’re 10 years old. This kid is likely exactly what he seems: a maybe rotation level player, mainly because of his attitude at drive. If not for that, he’d likely not have his year 4 option tendered, and be out of the league.

[Buddy Holly]

Gotta love the beer belly scouts and gm’s, currently wasting away eating Doritos on their couches, this place has in spades.

[Atl Spur]

I’ve been willing to entertain all of their picks, to date, even Luka. There have been a couple of instances of unearthed unknown Euro gems, Freak and Joker. There are no unturned stones in the US. Scouts are on these kids when they’re 10 years old. This kid is likely exactly what he seems: a maybe rotation level player, mainly because of his attitude at drive. If not for that, he’d likely not have his year 4 option tendered, and be out of the league.

You mean like Klay Thompson, Paul George, CJ McCollum, Kawhi , Dame etc.... so many throughout have out performed their draft position. It’s up to the individual and the circumstance

[Atl Spur]

Gotta love the beer belly scouts and gm’s, currently wasting away eating Doritos on their couches, this place has in spades.

This

[Drom John]

Gotta love the beer belly scouts and gm’s, currently wasting away eating Doritos on their couches, this place has in spades.

That does not describe me.

I'm wasting away drinking homebrew in my recliner.
RDWAHAHB.

[C-Dub]

Primo was a good selection. He'll probably be at least 6'7" after he's done growing and has a nice wingspan and big hands - sounds familiar (Kawhi). And he already has really good form on his jump shot and more athletic ability than given credit for. The Spurs may not be able to afford/want Lonnie after his contract expires after this season and this could be his replacement. TJ will replace Patty and Luka will get some of Rudy minutes. Also remember, there's a good chance Dieng stays with the team to help out in the bigs department. Jakob, Luka, Dieng and Eubanks and sprinkle in Keldon and KBD at the PF slot and the bigs are covered for this upcoming season and sure they are going to sign a 4/5 in the upcoming free agency. Primo could possibly be one of the Spurs top 3 players by year 3 at only 21 years old. With his deamenor and build, it's possible.

[rjv]

Gotta love the beer belly scouts and gm’s, currently wasting away eating Doritos on their couches, this place has in spades.

we're all pretty much full of it here on ST; some of us just dress our dung up better than others.

[Atl Spur]

Primo will surprise.....let’s just count who eats Crowe:) he’s 18 geesh

[Rummpd]

Not in this proven farce of a FO just made the worst possible pick for their draft position - thread title should be the basement bedroom of Primo truth be told. Such a farce it crashed the site. Even if he is better than expected they could have traded back and got two for one.

[Rummpd]

Primo was a good selection. He'll probably be at least 6'7" after he's done growing and has a nice wingspan and big hands - sounds familiar (Kawhi). And he already has really good form on his jump shot and more athletic ability than given credit for. The Spurs may not be able to afford/want Lonnie after his contract expires after this season and this could be his replacement. TJ will replace Patty and Luka will get some of Rudy minutes. Also remember, there's a good chance Dieng stays with the team to help out in the bigs department. Jakob, Luka, Dieng and Eubanks and sprinkle in Keldon and KBD at the PF slot and the bigs are covered for this upcoming season and sure they are going to sign a 4/5 in the upcoming free agency. Primo could possibly be one of the Spurs top 3 players by year 3 at only 21 years old. With his deamenor and build, it's possible.

Your joking right? Top ten player more likely on Spurs

[tim_duncan_fan]

I miss the faux-religious Church thread titles

[SpurSpike]

There was another baby faced player drafted back in the day listed at 6'6" a spot later at #13... Maybe he has the unteachable killer instinct!

Perhaps JP was simply overlooked because of his age and the fact that he was used primarily as a catch and shoot player in college. From what I'm reading though he is much more than that. He might have even become a top draft draft pick next year if he had stayed in college and given a bigger role as a sophomore.

[bluebellmaniac]

Checking in! Go Primo!

[ace3g]

https://twitter.com/BryanKalbrosky/status/1421205362745692166

[Mr. Body]

I'm in.

[slick'81]

Fck it! Im all in. Gonna get a primo jersery for sure to add to my current spur collection of- poodle,KJ,and now PRIMo:clap

[Atl Spur]

Lol

[hombre]

I’m down. Nothing else happening anyway.

[Atl Spur]

Welcome

[Mnky]

They took a guard that can shoot. I was excited about the change in direction for the franchise tbh :lol

[Marco]

I'm in.

[GreekSpursfan]

I'm in until i'm out

[Atl Spur]

I'm in until i'm out

Lol

[duncan2k5]

Primo will surprise.....let’s just count who eats Crowe:) he’s 18 geesh

There's many scrubs who were once 18

[timvp]

https://twitter.com/BryanKalbrosky/status/1421205362745692166

"Watch me prove what the Spurs already knew.”

https://media.giphy.com/media/9uoYC7cjcU6w8/source.gif

[Atl Spur]

There's many scrubs who were once 18

Cute��

[tonight...you]

There's many scrubs who were once 18
Every superstar ever in the League were once 18.
Every player in the League ever was once 18.

[superbigtime]

Primo was a good selection. He'll probably be at least 6'7" after he's done growing and has a nice wingspan and big hands - sounds familiar (Kawhi). And he already has really good form on his jump shot and more athletic ability than given credit for. The Spurs may not be able to afford/want Lonnie after his contract expires after this season and this could be his replacement. TJ will replace Patty and Luka will get some of Rudy minutes. Also remember, there's a good chance Dieng stays with the team to help out in the bigs department. Jakob, Luka, Dieng and Eubanks and sprinkle in Keldon and KBD at the PF slot and the bigs are covered for this upcoming season and sure they are going to sign a 4/5 in the upcoming free agency. Primo could possibly be one of the Spurs top 3 players by year 3 at only 21 years old. With his deamenor and build, it's possible.

sounds good but no one could've expected the spurs to use their lotto pick on someone who needs to actually physically grow more.

[Atl Spur]

Let’s check back in after a few SL games; the funny thing is he looks like a kid in the face but he is way bigger than one would think.

[cd98]

Your joking right? Top ten player more likely on Spurs

One SEC coach said he’s not top 20 in the SEC.

[spurs1990]

As Mike Gottfried said about Randy Moss in the 1998 draft, Primo has a high upside, I mean high. He has a downside as big as the Grand Canyon

[SpaceCowboy]

I’m in.

Hope this kid takes all the criticism of the pick and uses it to fuel his fire.

[JeffDuncan]

He is putty in our hands and we shall mold him, and shape him to our likeness.

[Sugus]

They took a guard that can shoot. I was excited about the change in direction for the franchise tbh :lol

Not only that - they took a guard that can shoot, and play the off-ball game already. So many of our guards need the ball directly in their hands to be effective and can't reliably space the floor without it, yet this guy's only 18 and already has that skillset down. Growing his on-ball skills could be easier than teaching Dejounte how to be a natural distributing PG. Plus, folks knock at the pick due to his supposed lack of athleticism... Lonnie has athleticism down to a T, yet is quite deficient in many areas of the game.

Primo is a sight for sore eyes in a lot of ways once you get past his drafting position. I'm very intrigued by the idea of the FO pivoting to a "new youth" movement tbh, we'll get some clearer pictures after FA but I'm in on this.

[Mnky]

Not only that - they took a guard that can shoot, and play the off-ball game already. So many of our guards need the ball directly in their hands to be effective and can't reliably space the floor without it, yet this guy's only 18 and already has that skillset down. Growing his on-ball skills could be easier than teaching Dejounte how to be a natural distributing PG. Plus, folks knock at the pick due to his supposed lack of athleticism... Lonnie has athleticism down to a T, yet is quite deficient in many areas of the game.

Primo is a sight for sore eyes in a lot of ways once you get past his drafting position. I'm very intrigued by the idea of the FO pivoting to a "new youth" movement tbh, we'll get some clearer pictures after FA but I'm in on this.

I love the pick. He has above average athleticism, just plays smart and not out of control. He doesn't seem to have that quick Twitch explosion but he can hang and finished well on bigs that can jump in the post.

Like you said, he knows the game. Smart player and adapts well from what I've seen.

I don't know how long it will take him to get comfortable at the next level or if he ever will, but man he has huge upside and should have been a high school senior this year but already has national team and SEC college experience. Under the tutelage of the spurs, the kid should blossom.

[BackHome]

It's hard to imagine but the kid (18) was playing against guys in college who for the most part are 20 to 22 years old. But I agree that one thing he is a smart basketball player who knows how to play the game on offense and defense. I have no clue what the future holds for him but he has a lot of the boxes checked off just needs a little luck and a great work ethic which I think he has - One a side noet I didn't know Sean Elliot was was young when he went to college I think 17 his first year?

[Atl Spur]

Wow some of you are really coming around the mountain!!

[tim_duncan_fan]

I hate to start mythologizing the kid, but he does seem to have a calm air of confidence.

Can't wait for the Summer League debut.

[R. DeMurre]

Primo will be the youngest NBA player when the season starts, at 18. He was born on December 24th, 2002.
He'll replace Aleksej Pokusevski, last season's youngest player, who was born on December 26th, 2001.

[slick'81]

Primo will be the youngest NBA player when the season starts, at 18. He was born on December 24th, 2002.
He'll replace Aleksej Pokusevski, last season's youngest player, who was born on December 26th, 2001.

and poku actually played. Maybe theres hope primo gets some actual nba court time

[offset formation]

Wow some of you are really coming around the mountain!!

just for clarification many of the folks you think are "coming around," weren't ever anti-Primo.

personally, I certainly wasn't. I just thought a different pick was more prudent at spot 12. and while I still feel that Sengun is a sure fire all-star, my initial ignorance about Cuz has now been replaced with some actual video and scouting reports. despite that initial ignorance I would have still wholeheartedly supported him. only a dick holds it against an 18 yr old where he was drafted even if I initially disagreed with not trading down (he likely wouldn't have even made it to 20 per that SI article) nor because I had a favorite we skipped.

I also now hold the opinion that Primo may in fact end up being a special talent that the Spurs were lucky to land.

[BackHome]

Well said....

[Atl Spur]

just for clarification many of the folks you think are "coming around," weren't ever anti-Primo.

personally, I certainly wasn't. I just thought a different pick was more prudent at spot 12. and while I still feel that Sengun is a sure fire all-star, my initial ignorance about Cuz has now been replaced with some actual video and scouting reports. despite that initial ignorance I would have still wholeheartedly supported him. only a dick holds it against an 18 yr old where he was drafted even if I initially disagreed with not trading down (he likely wouldn't have even made it to 20 per that SI article) nor because I had a favorite we skipped.

I also now hold the opinion that Primo may in fact end up being a special talent that the Spurs were lucky to land.
I’m not taking about you; well said though my guy!

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Hoping he proves the doubters wrong.

he definitely has the build that he could put on muscle easy and he seems to not mind playing physical which is a plus for a player not super athletic .

[Atl Spur]

Hoping he proves the doubters wrong.

he definitely has the build that he could put on muscle easy and he seems to not mind playing physical which is a plus for a player not super athletic .

His journey starts tomorrow :)

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

Hoping he proves the doubters wrong.

he definitely has the build that he could put on muscle easy and he seems to not mind playing physical which is a plus for a player not super athletic .

*raises hand*

Please prove me wrong Joshua. I've never wanted to be so wrong.

[playblair]

i have screenshotted & saved every negative post about the primo pick.........there will be no hiding when he turns out to be a gem u will all face ur penance

[Atl Spur]

i have screenshotted & saved every negative post about the primo pick.........there will be no hiding when he turns out to be a gem u will all face ur penance

It won’t matter my guy......they don’t operate in reality!��. They’ll only try and move the goal post

[Atl Spur]

Primo is a big dude that will probably only get bigger! Check out the summer league thread

[Gibbz]

It's gonna take a while, but he's gonna be great.

[SPARKY]

Have we made Primo a HOFer yet?

[tim_duncan_fan]

The sheer comedy that will ensue if Cousin Josh doesn't show a flash of anything in a couple hours.

[offset formation]

Have we made Primo a HOFer yet?

if we don't, prepare for misery.

[spurraider21]

Gotta love the beer belly scouts and gm’s, currently wasting away eating Doritos on their couches, this place has in spades.
yep, all those guys doubted moves like re-signing Parker, Pau, Patty... signing DeMarre Carroll.

PATFO showed them!

[spurraider21]

i have screenshotted & saved every negative post about the primo pick.........there will be no hiding when he turns out to be a gem u will all face ur penance
how is that CoJo/Hanga/Blair core coming along?

[RC_Drunkford]

The sheer comedy that will ensue if Cousin Josh doesn't show a flash of anything in a couple hours.

He won't. He's injured :lmao

[tim_duncan_fan]

He won't. He's injured :lmao

What the fuck.

[Spurs Homer]

china doll to go along with dejounte and derrick - the OTHER two china dolls

[Atl Spur]

That doubt he is truly hurt....... But if he is, it's not uncommon for basketball players to have strains/pulls.

[Atl Spur]

Damn..... nothing for the penthouse?

[Atl Spur]

We got us one.......

[Atl Spur]

He can handle the ball better than most of our current players, will need seasoning which is to be expected. Good size and will only get bigger/stronger. The kid seems really intelligent and polished for such a young man. I like him and a lot of people will come around to this pick moving forward...... ( 2 to 3 years if not sooner ) He will be ready much more than walkers/murrays of the world.

[tim_duncan_fan]

I'm not ready to crown him; not ready to crown his ass (RIP Dennis Green), but not a bad debut at all.

I like what I can imagine Young Cuzzo becoming.

[slick'81]

11 points ,6 turnovers ,and two assists gotta start somewhere

[Trill Clinton]

I like that they gave him PG responsibilities and he didn't look overwhelmed. He's going to be a problem when he grows into his man body.

[slick'81]

I like that they gave him PG responsibilities and he didn't look overwhelmed. He's going to be a problem when he grows into his man body.


Hopefully as a sf

[tim_duncan_fan]

Hopefully as a sf

I feel like we can already tell he's a PG.

I hope he grows 2.5 more inches and fills out.

[Atl Spur]

I like that they gave him PG responsibilities and he didn't look overwhelmed. He's going to be a problem when he grows into his man body.

I agree big homie!

[Atl Spur]

11 points ,6 turnovers ,and two assists gotta start somewhere

It’s the traits I’m speaking towards.....he will become a problem my guy!

[slick'81]

It’s the traits I’m speaking towards.....he will become a problem my guy!

Hell be ok. I trust the fo in developing

[Blackhaus]

I feel like we can already tell he's a PG.

I hope he grows 2.5 more inches and fills out.

Wait how can you tell he’s a point guard? Cause he played point in his first summer league game full of scrubs? He’s prob gonna be 6’7 to 6’8 in a couple of years. He’s a 2 - 3 In this league with handles and a jump shot.

[Blackhaus]

I feel like we can already tell he's a PG.

I hope he grows 2.5 more inches and fills out.

Wait how can you tell he’s a point guard? Cause he played point in his first summer league game full of scrubs? He’s prob gonna be 6’7 to 6’8 in a couple of years. He’s a 2 - 3 In this league with handles and a jump shot.

[8FOR!3]

From the little I've seen his jump shot really does seem to be the real deal. I don't know if he'll ever be the defender that Murray/White/Walker&Keldon(well not that they're all world)/Vassell are but he probably will have a smoother 3 ball than all of them.

[onechance87]

From the little I've seen his jump shot really does seem to be the real deal. I don't know if he'll ever be the defender that Murray/White/Walker&Keldon(well not that they're all world)/Vassell are but he probably will have a smoother 3 ball than all of them.

his defence is already better then walker....walk sucks at d

[TheChillFactor]

somehow at 18 years old this boy has a better looking jumper than IG baller who has been posting videos practicing his jumper for 5 fucking years.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Wait how can you tell he’s a point guard? Cause he played point in his first summer league game full of scrubs? He’s prob gonna be 6’7 to 6’8 in a couple of years. He’s a 2 - 3 In this league with handles and a jump shot.

I meant that he looks natural at it. It's one thing to be a 2-guard that gets assists. Primo may very well be inclined to run the point.

If he gets big, even better.

[BillMc]

his defence is already better then walker....walk sucks at d

This. Walker is okish one on one (on the rare nights he tries), but is absolutely abysmal at help defense.

[Maddog]

Yes it's summer league and the majority of these guys are end of the bench and D-League, but that was essentially a high school kid out there holding his on

[james evans]

I like Primo from what i've seen, but let's see how good he plays when he's expected to shoot 90% from the field. Once he misses 2 open 3s and popovich pulls him and benches him for 3 games, I want to see his response to that.

[look_at_g_shred]

Wait how can you tell he’s a point guard? Cause he played point in his first summer league game full of scrubs? He’s prob gonna be 6’7 to 6’8 in a couple of years. He’s a 2 - 3 In this league with handles and a jump shot.
IIRC Wright talked about scouting him as a PG or something to that effect.

[Dejounte]

IIRC Wright talked about scouting him as a PG or something to that effect.

He talked about how he was versatile enough to handle the ball like a PG, not that he scouted him as a PG

[Dejounte]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1423735932189122564?s=21

Primo and Wieskamp look so close in height (near the end of the video it shows them standing to each other)

[pad300]

https://twitter.com/spurs/status/1423735932189122564?s=21

Primo and Wieskamp look so close in height (near the end of the video it shows them standing to each other)

Freeze it at 53 seconds and you can see Weiskamp has 2 or so inches on Primo at the shoulder.

[Rito3d30]

This boy's gonna be gd:toast

[slick'81]

17 points 3 dimes 3 blocks ,and only 3 to's:clap

[tim_duncan_fan]

This is Brian Wright or whoever is in charge of drafting about to shit on us for being mad about the Primo pick:


https://youtu.be/Z49whgBNCyE

[Atl Spur]

I told these boys....... Mugen tell me how my *** taste������

[slick'81]

I told these boys....... Mugen tell me how my *** taste������

:lol

[Sugus]

I'm really excited about this guy. Looked effortless on the court, and much more fluid than his age would indicate. I especially noted his quick decision-making; he was really quick to recover on any play once his Plan A looked like it wouldn't work out (for example that corner 3 he bailed out on, and still got off a good pass leading to a 3 in one motion), and also at recognizing when a player would get open and get him the ball (a left-to-right drive where he instantly recognized a guy on the wing was open, and threw him a no-look pass, comes to mind). Pretty advanced stuff for an 18yo - not for the difficulty of the moves themselves, but because of the awareness it takes to pull them off cleanly. And he was doing it all night (or half the night at least, only caught the second half :lol).

I'm beginning to see why the Spurs didn't risk him with trying to trade down for an extra asset. He looks so fluid, much more so than many guys on our roster, especially shooting off the dribble. I'm hoping he has a late growth spurt in him, but even if he doesn't, he looks like a natural SG with playmaking abilities to me. Considering White's age and possible trading status, Primo as a future SG placeholder makes a lot of sense. We'll see how he does in Austin, but I'm optimistic about the kid.

[BacktoBasics]

I like what I saw. He’s got some game.

But… How do you teach athleticism? If you’re not explosive and not a lights out deep threat then what are you? What would his NBA comp be?

[Degoat]

Primo has that “IT” factor! I’ve really liked what Ive seen, he should have had more assists too if his teammates had played better. People questioning his athleticism, I think it’s not bad, he’ll improve athletically just like DWhite did.

[duncan2150]

I like what I saw. He’s got some game.

But… How do you teach athleticism? If you’re not explosive and not a lights out deep threat then what you? What would his NBA comp be?

Joe Johnson ?

[slick'81]

Joe Johnson ?

Cj mccollum

[duncan2150]

Cj mccollum

Nice find minus the handle for the moment but more IQ at the same age.

[RC_Drunkford]

I like what I saw. He’s got some game.

But… How do you teach athleticism? If you’re not explosive and not a lights out deep threat then what are you? What would his NBA comp be?

He's just not fast, I wouldn't call that unathletic. I see him having a more Harden-esque game.

[Dejounte]

I like what I saw. He’s got some game.

But… How do you teach athleticism? If you’re not explosive and not a lights out deep threat then what are you? What would his NBA comp be?


does anyone think Devin Booker is that athletic? This overemphasis on athleticism is really something.

[CGD]

Lotta posters revising their draft grades about now…

[BacktoBasics]

Joe Johnson ?


Cj mccollum

I’m not at all familiar with CJ’s game. Joe Johnson had a physicality to his game. Idk, maybe not a bad comp but the game is just so different from that era.

[Kurik]

I threw out a shorter Khris Middleton comp but going back to the Bucks he also reminds me of Michael Redd. He wasn’t super athletic but was very sound offensively along with being a great shooter.

[BacktoBasics]

does anyone think Devin Booker is that athletic? This overemphasis on athleticism is really something.

Booker can turn a corner pretty well, also his first step is pretty solid. Maybe athleticism isn’t the right word. It’s not like Primo is un-athletic. He’s just not explosive and he doesn’t rise to the rim like booker does.

But you can absolutely get better at finishing so I’m not worried about that.

He looked great tonight, against summer league talent. He would struggle to pull off those same shots at the pro level. I’m encouraged by what I saw, just wondering how they see it coming together because he’s not going to slash and smash at the next level and he’s not a sharpshooter.

A less explosive DDR? Idk

[Trill Clinton]

His stepback J is filthy

[slick'81]

Booker can turn a corner pretty well, also his first step is pretty solid. Maybe athleticism isn’t the right word. It’s not like Primo is un-athletic. He’s just not explosive and he doesn’t rise to the rim like booker does.

But you can absolutely get better at finishing so I’m not worried about that.

He looked great tonight, against summer league talent. He would struggle to pull off those same shots at the pro level. I’m encouraged by what I saw, just wondering how they see it coming together because he’s not going to slash and smash at the next level and he’s not a sharpshooter.

A less explosive DDR? Idk


Jesus no. Derozan was uber athletic and cant shoot the three

[slick'81]

I’m not at all familiar with CJ’s game. Joe Johnson had a physicality to his game. Idk, maybe not a bad comp but the game is just so different from that era.

think more beal or mccullom . 6'3-6'5 ,38-39 inch vert, and more off the ball . They can handle but are more of outside shooters

[Trill Clinton]

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[emanueldavidginobili]

Throw this kid in the fire! He needs to be playing with the big boys this season. He needs to be traveling with the team and practicing with them, all that. He plays a lot like SGA imo.

[slick'81]

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rc and co.found another one

[slick'81]

Throw this kid in the fire! He needs to be playing with the big boys this season. He needs to be traveling with the team and practicing with them, all that. He plays a lot like SGA imo.

Gotta get through bryn first:lol

[spurraider21]

Primo has game, but he's going to have to overcome his general lack of burst to be a real NBA player. It's doable.

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Primo has game, but he's going to have to overcome his general lack of burst to be a real NBA player. It's doable.

His handles in traffic and decision making will be a work in progress. but hey, the dudes just a grasshopper.

[RLT]

Throw this kid in the fire! He needs to be playing with the big boys this season. He needs to be traveling with the team and practicing with them, all that.
This

[BillMc]

Gotta get through bryn first:lol
:lol

[SAGirl]

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I like it. Thanks for sharing.

[Atl Spur]

Lotta posters revising their draft grades about now…

This! Someone please call every clown out that had all their cute Patfo / Brian Wright jokes. Vassell and primo both will be nice when it’s all said and done barring injury! Our front office something to marvel at!

[Dverde]

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I think this shows more on Devin. To point out a similar young guard shows a person who is over himself. 💯 Spursian

[BackHome]

This! Someone please call every clown out that had all their cute Patfo / Brian Wright jokes. Vassell and primo both will be nice when it’s all said and done barring injury! Our front office something to marvel at!

Props to you Atl you came out day one for your bro Primo and stood tall in the Storm - Who ever they pick next draft I am not saying shit until I read your review of the pick. Lol :bobo

[Dejounte]

Props to you Atl you came out day one for your bro Primo and stood tall in the Storm - Who ever they pick next draft I am not saying shit until I read your review of the pick. Lol :bobo

If the Spurs drafted Kevin Hart , Atl Spur would still come out and root for him. Guy is a die hard fan to a fault

[slick'81]

If the Spurs drafted Kevin Hart , Atl Spur would still come out and root for him. Guy is a die hard fan to a fault

Dude is Nostradamus,tbh

[Sugus]

https://twitter.com/JeffGSpursZone/status/1423838710769012740

Boy is smart

[Atl Spur]

If the Spurs drafted Kevin Hart , Atl Spur would still come out and root for him. Guy is a die hard fan to a fault

Lol! I don’t agree with everything but their track record is better than anyone I’ve ever seen. Many have come & go but these boys are pretty consistent. ���� I remember doubting the Tony Parker pick, I wanted that 2 guard from North Carolina that year�� Lesson learned

[Atl Spur]

Props to you Atl you came out day one for your bro Primo and stood tall in the Storm - Who ever they pick next draft I am not saying shit until I read your review of the pick. Lol :bobo

Stop it! I appreciate your words! Yo, how poised is this kid??? He is far from a finished product but his mettle is quite impressive!

[Atl Spur]

Dude is Nostradamus,tbh

You are a wild dude.... more like Negrodamus��

[slick'81]

You are a wild dude.... more like Negrodamus��

:lol

[Harry Callahan]

It's difficult to be patient with new players, but to think Primo is only 18 years old. He is a very big guard and could be a much bigger player when he fills out and matures to his frame.

It's a real crap shoot when you are drafting in the 6-15 range. You don't get the top handful of guys that should be the best.

Primo seems to have a very aggressive demeanor as a player. Most of our key players next year will be 20-25 years old. I don't see any issue with just letting the guys play and let the cream rise to the top - even the teenager.

I think the organization has officially turned the page now. I see a team that will hard pressed to score at times without the vets. Losing DeRozan, Aldridge, Mills, and Gay will result in a huge adjustment. There is unfortunately a talent/experience gap that will not be fixed in the coming year. The W-L percentage will probably be less than stellar in 20-21.

[Atl Spur]

Let’s see what free agency brings.... If walker had primos iq & aggressiveness right now he’d be a rising star. This kid just need live reps and getting torched will help him be better. He seems competitive

[BackHome]

It's difficult to be patient with new players, but to think Primo is only 18 years old. He is a very big guard and could be a much bigger player when he fills out and matures to his frame.

It's a real crap shoot when you are drafting in the 6-15 range. You don't get the top handful of guys that should be the best.

Primo seems to have a very aggressive demeanor as a player. Most of our key players next year will be 20-25 years old. I don't see any issue with just letting the guys play and let the cream rise to the top - even the teenager.

I think the organization has officially turned the page now. I see a team that will hard pressed to score at times without the vets. Losing DeRozan, Aldridge, Mills, and Gay will result in a huge adjustment. There is unfortunately a talent/experience gap that will not be fixed in the coming year. The W-L percentage will probably be less than stellar in 20-21.

Agreed - But sometimes the only way to move forward is to take a step back I think in the beginning we’re going to get killed but as the season ends we will see an improvement. The key will be to see how fast players adjust to new roles who steps up as leader and who wants to take the shot when the game is on the line

[spurs1990]

It's difficult to be patient with new players, but to think Primo is only 18 years old. He is a very big guard and could be a much bigger player when he fills out and matures to his frame.

It's a real crap shoot when you are drafting in the 6-15 range. You don't get the top handful of guys that should be the best.

Primo seems to have a very aggressive demeanor as a player. Most of our key players next year will be 20-25 years old. I don't see any issue with just letting the guys play and let the cream rise to the top - even the teenager.

I think the organization has officially turned the page now. I see a team that will hard pressed to score at times without the vets. Losing DeRozan, Aldridge, Mills, and Gay will result in a huge adjustment. There is unfortunately a talent/experience gap that will not be fixed in the coming year. The W-L percentage will probably be less than stellar in 20-21.

Gay, Mills, and Derozan helped the Spurs finish 2-10 in their last season. The new roster can't do any worse one would hope.

[Harry Callahan]

I agree y'all that the veteran players did not justify their continuation with the Spurs going forward. The young guys need to try and sink or swim now and the development of young guys is really what the 21-22 season needs to be about.

There is not enough raw, proven talent right now. I think management has finally acknowledged that with the roster moves overall. There will be some long nights and extended losing streaks, but at least the eye is toward the future in a more realistic way. DDR was a fine player, but there was not enough firepower to justify keeping him and more importantly his contract with a cap (and some kind of budget).

[Atl Spur]

I agree y'all that the veteran players did not justify their continuation with the Spurs going forward. The young guys need to try and sink or swim now and the development of young guys is really what the 21-22 season needs to be about.

There is not enough raw, proven talent right now. I think management has finally acknowledged that with the roster moves overall. There will be some long nights and extended losing streaks, but at least the eye is toward the future in a more realistic way. DDR was a fine player, but there was not enough firepower to justify keeping him and more importantly his contract with a cap (and some kind of budget).

I’m not ready to just punt the season; I’ll wait and see what our moves yield us. Who knows what we may be able to do��

[slick'81]

Bought my primo jersey today! Cant fckn wait

[Killakobe81]

I’m not ready to just punt the season; I’ll wait and see what our moves yield us. Who knows what we may be able to do��

Stop it. Any moves not bringing future assets picks or young players is counter-productive to a rebuild. Punting a season to develop players and or collect draft picks is placing the longterm health of the team over foolish team pride.

[Atl Spur]

You can do both depending on the mixture of talent, let’s see our transactions first:)

[John B]

3 min read. After plays in Las Vegas, CBS still says Primo is a reach at 12 but understands the pick because of his defense and ability to knock down shots. Personally I think he is so much more.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/how-joshua-primo-the-youngest-player-and-biggest-surprise-of-the-2021-nba-draft-can-fit-in-with-the-spurs/

[Mr. Body]

3 min read. After plays in Las Vegas, CBS still says Primo is a reach at 12 but understands the pick because of his defense and ability to knock down shots. Personally I think he is so much more.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/how-joshua-primo-the-youngest-player-and-biggest-surprise-of-the-2021-nba-draft-can-fit-in-with-the-spurs/

Media sites were way behind on team intel. They still are.

[Mr. Body]

3 min read. After plays in Las Vegas, CBS still says Primo is a reach at 12 but understands the pick because of his defense and ability to knock down shots. Personally I think he is so much more.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/how-joshua-primo-the-youngest-player-and-biggest-surprise-of-the-2021-nba-draft-can-fit-in-with-the-spurs/

Media sites were way behind on team intel. They still are.

[Eaglenole2002]

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[stephen jackson]

He’s got game

[GreekSpursfan]

I watch both ends when i see a guy for the first time, he has a lot of work to do, too soon to say anything

[8FOR!3]

Everyone that says he's got a lot of work to do has to do understand that the rest of the team has a lot of work to do too lol. Idk if any of their jumpers are gonna ever be as smooth as Primo's is right now. That's just facts.

Ok other than McDermott, but he isn't the type to create his own shot, he moves a lot and gets open. He's a shooter, Primo's a scorer.

[RC_Drunkford]

He plays better defense than Walker and has a better jumpshot than DJ and Keldon. And he's only 18. If that ain't promising I don't know what is

[onechance87]

He plays better defense than Walker and has a better jumpshot than DJ and Keldon. And he's only 18. If that ain't promising I don't know what is

If he can hit the 3 at a good rate....Ill be very excited with this pick

[Atl Spur]

Lol...

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

We won't see him with the varsity until 2023, but so far he's showing that dreaded word...potential.

[tim_duncan_fan]

The kiddo needs to stop turning the ball over.

[GAustex]

Others teams first round picks are all dunking on people and hanging 20 on the scoreboard and our first round pick is a tripping and a stumbling and turning over and shooting hopeless layups.
Shrug patience I guess.

[Mr. Body]

Others teams first round picks are all dunking on people and hanging 20 on the scoreboard and our first round pick is a tripping and a stumbling and turning over and shooting hopeless layups.
Shrug patience I guess.

Austin Daye ripped up the summer league.

[slick'81]

Austin Daye ripped up the summer league.

good enough for the spurs:lobt:

[BackHome]

Man Sengun is looking like the real deal...............it HURTS>>>.......

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Like I said, that Sengun kid is looking really fucking good. Primo will be good but, fvck...

[slick'81]

Like I said, that Sengun kid is looking really fucking good. Primo will be good but, fvck...


I was begging for sengun. Sad thing is spurs could of been aggressive,and easily ended up with both but screw it just draft another sg next year too:rollin

[kht]

WHY THE FUCK DO THE SPURS ALWAYS HAVE TO GET CUTE WITH IT?

It's not rocket science.

[Atl Spur]

You rang???

[Atl Spur]

I was begging for sengun. Sad thing is spurs could of been aggressive,and easily ended up with both but screw it just draft another sg next year too:rollin

SMH......... not you!! Believe sir.

[T Park]

I was begging for sengun. Sad thing is spurs could of been aggressive,and easily ended up with both but screw it just draft another sg next year too:rollin

They could? Didn’t know OKC who wanted him after Indiana would be ok letting the spurs get him instead of themselves who wanted him

[exstatic]

WHY THE FUCK DO THE SPURS ALWAYS HAVE TO GET CUTE WITH IT?

It's not rocket science.
Actually, it is.

[Atl Spur]

Come on in..

[GAustex]

You ain’t all that

[Sugus]

The poise Primo plays with is very exciting. Never looks rushed, nor out of control, just looks like he's going to his spots and just finishing whatever ways he can. Definitely reminds me of Manu a bit with the crafty finishes; I certainly think it's a "natural quality" of a scorer to be creative and genuine with his finishes, even if he doesn't yet have the ability to convert all of them, instead of going the other way around and trying to be efficient, then creative. Jrue Holiday is also a very crafty finisher and so pleasing to watch.

The Spurs core is definitely missing a go-to scorer so Primo showing flashes of exactly that is really enticing. Hope he plays in today's game and plays well.

[SpursDynasty85]

The poise Primo plays with is very exciting. Never looks rushed, nor out of control, just looks like he's going to his spots and just finishing whatever ways he can. Definitely reminds me of Manu a bit with the crafty finishes; I certainly think it's a "natural quality" of a scorer to be creative and genuine with his finishes, even if he doesn't yet have the ability to convert all of them, instead of going the other way around and trying to be efficient, then creative. Jrue Holiday is also a very crafty finisher and so pleasing to watch.

The Spurs core is definitely missing a go-to scorer so Primo showing flashes of exactly that is really enticing. Hope he plays in today's game and plays well.

Primo getting lesson-time with Manu sounds like such a good fit.

[bdictjames]

There may be a better name than penthouse..

The Pew of Josh Primo sounds better.

[Atl Spur]

There may be a better name than penthouse..

The Pew of Josh Primo sounds better.

I chose penthouse because I believe they view him as the future! We shall see, stay tuned.

[tim_duncan_fan]

The Abandoned Chuck E. Cheese of Josh Primo

The Elementary School Playground of Josh Primo

The Game Room with Every Nintendo System of Josh Primo

[bdictjames]

I chose penthouse because I believe they view him as the future! We shall see, stay tuned.
I respect that bro, but how is "penthouse" a future? Like, the top of a building? Interesting.

I hear penthouse, I hear hookers and Hugh Hefner lol. Guy's not even 21 yet. :lol

[Atl Spur]

I respect that bro, but how is "penthouse" a future? Like, the top of a building? Interesting.

I hear penthouse, I hear hookers and Hugh Hefner lol. Guy's not even 21 yet. :lol

Lol

[exstatic]

I respect that bro, but how is "penthouse" a future? Like, the top of a building? Interesting.

I hear penthouse, I hear hookers and Hugh Hefner lol. Guy's not even 21 yet. :lol

Playboy was Hef’s magazine, not Penthouse.

The penthouse normally covers the entire top floor, and is very expensive and considered luxury accommodations.

[TheChillFactor]

we have an 18 year old kid with huge potential for the first time ever and you people want to argue about church pews and porno mags.

[HankChinaski]

we have an 18 year old kid with huge potential for the first time ever and you people want to argue about church pews and porno mags.

That is humans for you. We discuss the unexplainable and experiment with how to get others to rid us of blue balls.

It will never end.

[Phenomanul]

I'm liking Primo's game... for his age, wow!

I do have issues with the Spurs drafting him so high though, who else had him on their radar? Would it have been possible to draft a lottery talent AND then trade to obtain a pick in the low 20s to grab Primo?

[John B]

It should be The Primary School of Primo

[Atl Spur]

It should be The Primary School of Primo

Lol

[ace3g]

uh oh Primo on TikTok

https://twitter.com/TooMightySZN/status/1430676306442719237

[Dejounte]

Instagram Baller and now Tik Tok Baller

[Chinook]

People have to stop moralizing athletes. They're gonna be on Tiktok; they're gonna have IG accounts and say stupid things on Twitter. It's okay. It doesn't mean they're not dedicated to the game or particularly immature or whatever. Not going at you, Ace, but too many people want to control other people and make them at like clean-cut, "Yes, sir."/"No, sir." dolls, and it's creepy. It's shitty when you see it for college players. It's obscene to see it for adult millionaires.

[Ocotillo]

This guy is growing on me. Even though he is not some super athlete, he seems to be a heady player who is able to change speeds and run around herky jerky and get what he wants. Add to that, he is only 18 and already figuring out how to go against better athletes and have success, I am beginning to think he is going to develop into a really solid NBA player. Put that on TikTok

[SAGirl]

Plus,he's 18 years old. This is what that generation is up to. Pretty harmless. Add to that these guys are used to being centers of attention...

[SAGirl]

His hand look nephew like in that video. That's why he was drafted! :lmao kidding of course.

[Dex]

uh oh Primo on TikTok

https://twitter.com/TooMightySZN/status/1430676306442719237

At least his is kinda funny...like nah girl, you ain't about to go shaking your ass on TikTok.

[Maddog]

At least his is kinda funny...like nah girl, you ain't about to go shaking your ass on TikTok.

He's wearing a Spurs shirt and no uncle's in sight
I'm good.

[KobesAchilles]

Is this our new tradition. Draft a SG and then play Bryn Forbes instead of him. Did it with Lonnie, gonna do it with Primo. And 3 years from now when Forbes contract is up and we inevitably draft another combo guard, we will probably just repeat the cycle.

[daslicer]

Is this our new tradition. Draft a SG and then play Bryn Forbes instead of him. Did it with Lonnie, gonna do it with Primo. And 3 years from now when Forbes contract is up and we inevitably draft another combo guard, we will probably just repeat the cycle.

Pop's fantasy is to have 10 combo guards on a team.

[Teamduncan21]

Is this our new tradition. Draft a SG and then play Bryn Forbes instead of him. Did it with Lonnie, gonna do it with Primo. And 3 years from now when Forbes contract is up and we inevitably draft another combo guard, we will probably just repeat the cycle.

Initiation rites

[Harry Callahan]

Primo does really well when he's in a media situation, given his limited exposure to such things. He'll be fine.

I don't relate to 18 year olds as well as I used to. That's because I'm older. No big deal.

[Sugus]

Is this our new tradition. Draft a SG and then play Bryn Forbes instead of him. Did it with Lonnie, gonna do it with Primo. And 3 years from now when Forbes contract is up and we inevitably draft another combo guard, we will probably just repeat the cycle.

I don't really think overplaying scrubs over the lotto pick is a part of the strategy, more like a side-effect of previous seasons' unbalanced roster build; but there definitely seems to be a plan in place to try as many times as possible to hit on a star-to-be guard, be it PG or SG. Given the modern NBA, offensive dominance, and undervaluing of bigs, I don't really disagree with the strategy. Certainly looks like the next big stars of the game will be either two-way wings, or shooting-primary guards.

Also interesting that apparently F*rbes' deal is 1y, and Primo's probably Austin-bound for that same timespan. Hopefully no scrub overlap then. Though I'd love to see Primo come out of the gates firing next season, and overplay his competition, forcing himself to the big club sooner than later...

[KobesAchilles]

I don't really think overplaying scrubs over the lotto pick is a part of the strategy, more like a side-effect of previous seasons' unbalanced roster build; but there definitely seems to be a plan in place to try as many times as possible to hit on a star-to-be guard, be it PG or SG. Given the modern NBA, offensive dominance, and undervaluing of bigs, I don't really disagree with the strategy. Certainly looks like the next big stars of the game will be either two-way wings, or shooting-primary guards.

Also interesting that apparently F*rbes' deal is 1y, and Primo's probably Austin-bound for that same timespan. Hopefully no scrub overlap then. Though I'd love to see Primo come out of the gates firing next season, and overplay his competition, forcing himself to the big club sooner than later...
I know where we draft is affecting our choice of talent. Duh. But I'm tired of point guards when it has been proven literally all of NBA history that if your name isn't Steph Curry or Zeke, you will never lead your team to the title as a first option. This combo guard thing is shit too bc I can't even think of a single combo guard that ever lead a team to the title.

I'd rather have a shit ton of SFs then guards. Fuck guards. Gimme more misses (if we are going to miss) like Sammich please. Giannis, Kawhi, Lebron, KD, every teams best player has been a SF since like 2012 except for 2 (and in 2014 that SF ended up winning Finals MVP)

[Sugus]

I know where we draft is affecting our choice of talent. Duh. But I'm tired of point guards when it has been proven literally all of NBA history that if your name isn't Steph Curry or Zeke, you will never lead your team to the title as a first option. This combo guard thing is shit too bc I can't even think of a single combo guard that ever lead a team to the title.

I'd rather have a shit ton of SFs then guards. Fuck guards. Gimme more misses (if we are going to miss) like Sammich please. Giannis, Kawhi, Lebron, KD, every teams best player has been a SF since like 2012 except for 2 (and in 2014 that SF ended up winning Finals MVP)

I don't disagree with you, but also don't expect the Spurs to follow my (or your) personal drafting philosophy.

Saying "except for Steph Curry" is kind of a big omission, since not only is he a very recent and modern player, he completely reshaped a generation of young kids; I can see a player like Trae Young for example, who absolutely molded his game after Curry's, winning a championship in the near future, provided some savvy moves by ATL and of course the necessary luck that every champion needs. Combine that with the shooting dearth of this Spurs team, and I can't fault the FO for swinging to the fences for a SG (I don't really see Primo as a true combo guard, he's a SG first and foremost, with playmaking potential, IMO).

Lastly, I don't necessarily agree that the Spurs were looking for their championship centerpiece last draft (which seems to be the ulterior assumption behind your comment). The Spurs at this point don't have any player that's head-and-shoulders above the rest, to the point that you can call them a true #1 or even #2 option; I think we'll see Keldon or White, if healthy, rise to that level this season, but it's beyond the point. So, using a mid-lottery pick to try and fish for your #2 guy, that's a pretty different picture than saying "their drafting strategy is futile since almost no SGs have led their teams to rings". I don't see that kind of pressure on Primo's shoulders at all (which there certainly would be if he had been a #1 pick or so).

I don't expect them to draft a guard if they tank out (er, lose out) the season and get a top lottery pick, is my point. The FO having drafted them with middling picks in the past does not forbid them from changing that strategy under different, more favorable drafting circumstances.

[ace3g]

JP getting ready for the NBA season.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3Vu_1b-DDQ

[KobesAchilles]

I don't disagree with you, but also don't expect the Spurs to follow my (or your) personal drafting philosophy.

Saying "except for Steph Curry" is kind of a big omission, since not only is he a very recent and modern player, he completely reshaped a generation of young kids; I can see a player like Trae Young for example, who absolutely molded his game after Curry's, winning a championship in the near future, provided some savvy moves by ATL and of course the necessary luck that every champion needs. Combine that with the shooting dearth of this Spurs team, and I can't fault the FO for swinging to the fences for a SG (I don't really see Primo as a true combo guard, he's a SG first and foremost, with playmaking potential, IMO).

Lastly, I don't necessarily agree that the Spurs were looking for their championship centerpiece last draft (which seems to be the ulterior assumption behind your comment). The Spurs at this point don't have any player that's head-and-shoulders above the rest, to the point that you can call them a true #1 or even #2 option; I think we'll see Keldon or White, if healthy, rise to that level this season, but it's beyond the point. So, using a mid-lottery pick to try and fish for your #2 guy, that's a pretty different picture than saying "their drafting strategy is futile since almost no SGs have led their teams to rings". I don't see that kind of pressure on Primo's shoulders at all (which there certainly would be if he had been a #1 pick or so).

I don't expect them to draft a guard if they tank out (er, lose out) the season and get a top lottery pick, is my point. The FO having drafted them with middling picks in the past does not forbid them from changing that strategy under different, more favorable drafting circumstances.
I mean Curry did it for one season and then choked away the next season to a SF :lol
I don’t see Trae winning a ring personally. I think this is as far as he is going to go for a good long time. Kinda like Portland making it to the WCF that one season.

Im not against them looking for a number 2 player at all. But to me, SG is a useless position to draft. I mean off the top of my head there is Harden, Klay and then just a buncha guys at SG. They might get lucky and have a good playoff run like a Middleton or Booker but those guys are just chuckers who don’t really do anything when the ball isn’t falling. Harden is in charge of the offense and Klay guards the best players really well. They are the only 2 SGs who aren’t one dimensional chuckers.

We do need a PG IMO and it’s not a bad idea to draft a PG but like an actual one. One that can dribble and shoot and pass the ball. They can be a scoring PG, I don’t mind that but I’m just tired of this Combo guard ideas. Especially on a team with nothing but guards. I’m guessing we are moving off of Lonnie but it could be Murray as well if he doesn’t learn how to shoot 3s.

I was just saying that if we are swinging for the fences on guys then why not guys with some height and length to them instead of midget guards that we end up playing as out of position SF. I don’t expect to get a franchise guy with the 12 pick but I also don’t expect to get a clear cut #2 player by drafting shooting guards.

[KingKev]

I mean Curry did it for one season and then choked away the next season to a SF :lol
I don’t see Trae winning a ring personally. I think this is as far as he is going to go for a good long time. Kinda like Portland making it to the WCF that one season.

Im not against them looking for a number 2 player at all. But to me, SG is a useless position to draft. I mean off the top of my head there is Harden, Klay and then just a buncha guys at SG. They might get lucky and have a good playoff run like a Middleton or Booker but those guys are just chuckers who don’t really do anything when the ball isn’t falling. Harden is in charge of the offense and Klay guards the best players really well. They are the only 2 SGs who aren’t one dimensional chuckers.

We do need a PG IMO and it’s not a bad idea to draft a PG but like an actual one. One that can dribble and shoot and pass the ball. They can be a scoring PG, I don’t mind that but I’m just tired of this Combo guard ideas. Especially on a team with nothing but guards. I’m guessing we are moving off of Lonnie but it could be Murray as well if he doesn’t learn how to shoot 3s.

I was just saying that if we are swinging for the fences on guys then why not guys with some height and length to them instead of midget guards that we end up playing as out of position SF. I don’t expect to get a franchise guy with the 12 pick but I also don’t expect to get a clear cut #2 player by drafting shooting guards.

lol wtf. MJ and Kobe both played the 2 homie. Dwade may be a migdet by your standards but also played SG and won chips.

[KobesAchilles]

lol wtf. MJ and Kobe both played the 2 homie. Dwade may be a migdet by your standards but also played SG and won chips.
I was talking more recently homie. I mean yeah Kobe won in 2010. And MJ 25 years ago. Even Wade was 15 years ago. SGs in TODAYS game are pretty much useless to draft (IMO) if you want a franchise player and other than Harden and Klay, I believe they are just chuckers who bring nothing else to the game. If Booker or Middleton aren’t making shots they are useless. If Chris Paul misses shots then he can still set up teammates and run the offense. Giannis, Kawhi, KD all have the size to effect the game defensively.

So in order of positions I would draft, SG is last on my list.

[KingKev]

I was talking more recently homie. I mean yeah Kobe won in 2010. And MJ 25 years ago. Even Wade was 15 years ago. SGs in TODAYS game are pretty much useless to draft (IMO) if you want a franchise player and other than Harden and Klay, I believe they are just chuckers who bring nothing else to the game. If Booker or Middleton aren’t making shots they are useless. If Chris Paul misses shots then he can still set up teammates and run the offense. Giannis, Kawhi, KD all have the size to effect the game defensively.

So in order of positions I would draft, SG is last on my list.

This league has gone position-less. Play on both sides of the ball and be a threat from outside and you have something.

[tbdog]

The most dominate shot in today's game is the step back 3. To create a 3 off the dribble is so dominate. Creating space and your shot can't be contested with the rule allowing you to land. Usually guards are the ones that can pulled that off. So guards can still be dominate, hence Harden and Curry. When looking around the league, there are only a few players than can pull it off. Nets have three of them. Spurs have zero.

[KobesAchilles]

This league has gone position-less. Play on both sides of the ball and be a threat from outside and you have something.
I mean it has and it hasn’t. You aren’t really using the term positionless correctly. You don’t put Harden at the 5. Hell Houston tried placing Tucker at the 5 and he hated it and got demolished. Positionless is really used to say combo like Harden can be a 1 or a 2 effectively. But on our team, what positions can Lonnie play for instance? Only SG. He’s too small for a SF and he has no idea how to run an offense. So you can say the league has gone positionless, but Lonnie hasn’t. He is still very much a 2 guard.

Murray is our PG, but he can’t shoot the ball effectively enough from 3 to be our SG. So he isn’t positionless. He’s stuck at the 1 until he learns how to shoot. And you can argue that he doesn’t know much about being a 1 either. So this whole positionless thing only really applies to Derrick White where he can play both guard positions and guard up to the 3. But that takes a toll on your body. Look at KJ, there were plenty of games where he was overmatched and just listless bc every day he had to go against a person taller and bigger than him. Over 82 games and that really hurt him as player.

Positonless is only really good for certain star players. Steph and Dame are 1s. They aren’t anything else. Embiid and Jokic are Cs and not anything else. Booker is a 2 and Ayton and Chris Paul are a 5 and 1 respectively and not anything else. Gobert is a 5. Poeltl is a 5. The only really effective players aside from Klay and Harden who are truly positionless players are bigger and have size to them. Lebron, AD, KD, Luka, Giannis, Zion, George and Kawhi, Simmons. So it doesn’t make sense to draft a 6ft 4 shooting guard and say he’s going to be positonless bc he just isn’t.

[KingKev]

I mean it has and it hasn’t. You aren’t really using the term positionless correctly. You don’t put Harden at the 5. Hell Houston tried placing Tucker at the 5 and he hated it and got demolished. Positionless is really used to say combo like Harden can be a 1 or a 2 effectively. But on our team, what positions can Lonnie play for instance? Only SG. He’s too small for a SF and he has no idea how to run an offense. So you can say the league has gone positionless, but Lonnie hasn’t. He is still very much a 2 guard.

Murray is our PG, but he can’t shoot the ball effectively enough from 3 to be our SG. So he isn’t positionless. He’s stuck at the 1 until he learns how to shoot. And you can argue that he doesn’t know much about being a 1 either. So this whole positionless thing only really applies to Derrick White where he can play both guard positions and guard up to the 3. But that takes a toll on your body. Look at KJ, there were plenty of games where he was overmatched and just listless bc every day he had to go against a person taller and bigger than him. Over 82 games and that really hurt him as player.

Positonless is only really good for certain star players. Steph and Dame are 1s. They aren’t anything else. Embiid and Jokic are Cs and not anything else. Booker is a 2 and Ayton and Chris Paul are a 5 and 1 respectively and not anything else. Gobert is a 5. Poeltl is a 5. The only really effective players aside from Klay and Harden who are truly positionless players are bigger and have size to them. Lebron, AD, KD, Luka, Giannis, Zion, George and Kawhi, Simmons. So it doesn’t make sense to draft a 6ft 4 shooting guard and say he’s going to be positonless bc he just isn’t.

Fair points. Position-less is also an often overrated skill; see DDR. I guess a better way to approach things is either players who have a sound, undeniable skillset ala Steph, Dame, Harden maybe a Tre or Beal or second tier scorers like your Levine, Booker, CJ type guys etc and team them up with the proper position-less complements. I mean D White would be a good example of a 6’4 guy who could play alongside all of the above as a 1, 2 or even a 3 in certain circumstances. Give this team a pure 6’4 scorer not named Brynn Forbes and we might be a playoff team.

[Sugus]

I mean Curry did it for one season and then choked away the next season to a SF :lol
I don’t see Trae winning a ring personally. I think this is as far as he is going to go for a good long time. Kinda like Portland making it to the WCF that one season.

Im not against them looking for a number 2 player at all. But to me, SG is a useless position to draft. I mean off the top of my head there is Harden, Klay and then just a buncha guys at SG. They might get lucky and have a good playoff run like a Middleton or Booker but those guys are just chuckers who don’t really do anything when the ball isn’t falling. Harden is in charge of the offense and Klay guards the best players really well. They are the only 2 SGs who aren’t one dimensional chuckers.

We do need a PG IMO and it’s not a bad idea to draft a PG but like an actual one. One that can dribble and shoot and pass the ball. They can be a scoring PG, I don’t mind that but I’m just tired of this Combo guard ideas. Especially on a team with nothing but guards. I’m guessing we are moving off of Lonnie but it could be Murray as well if he doesn’t learn how to shoot 3s.

I was just saying that if we are swinging for the fences on guys then why not guys with some height and length to them instead of midget guards that we end up playing as out of position SF. I don’t expect to get a franchise guy with the 12 pick but I also don’t expect to get a clear cut #2 player by drafting shooting guards.

Interesting points. Once again I want to acknowledge that there's a difference between your personal drafting preferences, and that of the Spurs org, and I wouldn't judge the latter based on the former, for either your preferences or mine. There's not a single path that leads to a championship and there never has been.

I don't think Curry choking changes anything in the discussion. To choke the way he did, he had to have already gotten to the Finals, and gotten a 3-1 lead over "a SF", did he not? It's the same when posters mindlessly shit on Pop for pulling out Timmy for that one rebound; he deserves blame to be sure, but all too often posters forget that he'd have to have gotten the Spurs to that point in order for that mistake to be possible. Anyways, it's still a PG leading his team to a championship, and almost B2B had insane heroics from LeBron & Co and insane choking from the Dubs not taken place, so it fits the criteria - even more so when you see how shooting-based Steph's game is. He was the first to prove you can (long distance) shoot your way into a ring. I see what you're saying about Trae, but I'm more optimistic on his future outlook, especially after watching him in the POs last season. Dude was the underdog in every series and stepped up big time. He'll get his eventually, no doubt to me.

I don't agree that SG is a useless position to draft (though I do agree that the value of the SG position as a whole has lowered since the 3pt revolution took place; not as much value in a shooting guard when your whole starting lineup can shoot...), and also that they're "just chuckers who don’t really do anything when the ball isn’t falling". That's a harsh preconception that doesn't apply to nearly every SG - did Manu do nothing when the ball wasn't falling? No... And he didn't retire 25 years ago, unlike MJ. At the end of the day, if you draft a SG that can only shoot 3's, yeah, it'll probably bite you in the ass like the 0-27 Rockettes. But that's not a fault of SGs per se. Matter-of-fact, we drafted Primo, who looks to be not only a shoot-first SG, but also have above-average passing instincts and could develop as a playmaker, while also playing interestingly solid defense. Right off the bat, he's not the archetype you loathe, is he?

What I still agree with you in is that I don't see many SGs be the #1 guy on championship teams. And I think it has a lot to do with that devaluing of the SG position as a whole. A SG that can only shoot will probably not be better than a PG that can playmake, and shoot, or a big that can be a defensive powerhouse, and shoot, like Embiid for example. But again, I don't think the Spurs were ever aiming for Primo to be that #1 guy (nor do I feel they'll play him at SF unless he grows into that length), so I feel it's a strawman to put him there and tear him down.

I'm also tired of Forbes-like combo guards, tho, tbh. I like Primo a lot precisely because, if he pans out, he might finally be a secure lock for the starting SG position for years to come, and the Spurs can go ahead and focus on other areas with their draftees. They've been waiting to hit gold on a guard for a long ass time and I want them to go in other directions, so Primo working out would be great to me.

[KobesAchilles]

Interesting points. Once again I want to acknowledge that there's a difference between your personal drafting preferences, and that of the Spurs org, and I wouldn't judge the latter based on the former, for either your preferences or mine. There's not a single path that leads to a championship and there never has been.

I don't think Curry choking changes anything in the discussion. To choke the way he did, he had to have already gotten to the Finals, and gotten a 3-1 lead over "a SF", did he not? It's the same when posters mindlessly shit on Pop for pulling out Timmy for that one rebound; he deserves blame to be sure, but all too often posters forget that he'd have to have gotten the Spurs to that point in order for that mistake to be possible. Anyways, it's still a PG leading his team to a championship, and almost B2B had insane heroics from LeBron & Co and insane choking from the Dubs not taken place, so it fits the criteria - even more so when you see how shooting-based Steph's game is. He was the first to prove you can (long distance) shoot your way into a ring. I see what you're saying about Trae, but I'm more optimistic on his future outlook, especially after watching him in the POs last season. Dude was the underdog in every series and stepped up big time. He'll get his eventually, no doubt to me.

I don't agree that SG is a useless position to draft (though I do agree that the value of the SG position as a whole has lowered since the 3pt revolution took place; not as much value in a shooting guard when your whole starting lineup can shoot...), and also that they're "just chuckers who don’t really do anything when the ball isn’t falling". That's a harsh preconception that doesn't apply to nearly every SG - did Manu do nothing when the ball wasn't falling? No... And he didn't retire 25 years ago, unlike MJ. At the end of the day, if you draft a SG that can only shoot 3's, yeah, it'll probably bite you in the ass like the 0-27 Rockettes. But that's not a fault of SGs per se. Matter-of-fact, we drafted Primo, who looks to be not only a shoot-first SG, but also have above-average passing instincts and could develop as a playmaker, while also playing interestingly solid defense. Right off the bat, he's not the archetype you loathe, is he?

What I still agree with you in is that I don't see many SGs be the #1 guy on championship teams. And I think it has a lot to do with that devaluing of the SG position as a whole. A SG that can only shoot will probably not be better than a PG that can playmake, and shoot, or a big that can be a defensive powerhouse, and shoot, like Embiid for example. But again, I don't think the Spurs were ever aiming for Primo to be that #1 guy (nor do I feel they'll play him at SF unless he grows into that length), so I feel it's a strawman to put him there and tear him down.

I'm also tired of Forbes-like combo guards, tho, tbh. I like Primo a lot precisely because, if he pans out, he might finally be a secure lock for the starting SG position for years to come, and the Spurs can go ahead and focus on other areas with their draftees. They've been waiting to hit gold on a guard for a long ass time and I want them to go in other directions, so Primo working out would be great to me.
I was talking in today’s nba. Manu retired like 5 years ago and was drafted 23 years ago. I can only really think of 2 SGs that can affect a game positively when their shot isn’t falling. Harden and Klay. Even a player like Donovan, while very dynamic, is virtually useless when he isn’t scoring. I have no idea if Primo is a good defender. I’m not even sure he can dribble the ball and create for others as well. He has a good shot, but over 82 games can his body handle it? Definitely not right now. He might become out starting 2 of the future. I hope he does but he will never be the #2 on a championship team. Even Manu as great as he was, and he was great, was only the second fiddle once outta his 4 rings.

My main issue with our drafting is that we are just drafting the same player we have in White. Unless we get rid of Murray and then I see some actual vision for the team, and not the 76ers imma draft Okafor, Noel, and Embiid type vision, then I will continue to be skeptical going forward. Bc I don’t believe we have good ownership, management, coaches, and players. And I don’t see us really addressing it as a whole and everyone is just kinda hoping it will all work out which isn’t really a plan at all

[R. DeMurre]

I mean it has and it hasn’t. You aren’t really using the term positionless correctly. You don’t put Harden at the 5. Hell Houston tried placing Tucker at the 5 and he hated it and got demolished. Positionless is really used to say combo like Harden can be a 1 or a 2 effectively. But on our team, what positions can Lonnie play for instance? Only SG. He’s too small for a SF and he has no idea how to run an offense. So you can say the league has gone positionless, but Lonnie hasn’t. He is still very much a 2 guard.

Murray is our PG, but he can’t shoot the ball effectively enough from 3 to be our SG. So he isn’t positionless. He’s stuck at the 1 until he learns how to shoot. And you can argue that he doesn’t know much about being a 1 either. So this whole positionless thing only really applies to Derrick White where he can play both guard positions and guard up to the 3. But that takes a toll on your body. Look at KJ, there were plenty of games where he was overmatched and just listless bc every day he had to go against a person taller and bigger than him. Over 82 games and that really hurt him as player.

Positonless is only really good for certain star players. Steph and Dame are 1s. They aren’t anything else. Embiid and Jokic are Cs and not anything else. Booker is a 2 and Ayton and Chris Paul are a 5 and 1 respectively and not anything else. Gobert is a 5. Poeltl is a 5. The only really effective players aside from Klay and Harden who are truly positionless players are bigger and have size to them. Lebron, AD, KD, Luka, Giannis, Zion, George and Kawhi, Simmons. So it doesn’t make sense to draft a 6ft 4 shooting guard and say he’s going to be positonless bc he just isn’t.


Totally agree. People go crazy with the "positionless basketball" theory, when all they really mean is that a few players are able to move up or down a position and still be effective. There were always stars in the past who were more talented than the rest and could do diverse things, like Magic starting at center when Kareem was hurt, or Pippen being the de facto PG of those Chicago teams. People made a big deal about Tucker playing a "big" at only 6'5", and he was gritty and great against some match ups... but when it came time to play the Lakers, Anthony Davis put up historically impressive and efficient numbers and destroyed him. In that series, the size-doesn't-matter/positionless philosophy was a disaster.

[Chinook]

Totally agree. People go crazy with the "positionless basketball" theory, when all they really mean is that a few players are able to move up or down a position and still be effective. There were always stars in the past who were more talented than the rest and could do diverse things, like Magic starting at center when Kareem was hurt, or Pippen being the de facto PG of those Chicago teams. People made a big deal about Tucker playing a "big" at only 6'5", and he was gritty and great against some match ups... but when it came time to play the Lakers, Anthony Davis put up historically impressive and efficient numbers and destroyed him. In that series, the size-doesn't-matter/positionless philosophy was a disaster.

Yeah, for some reason people always see Houston as some proof that small-ball worked, but it was basically the opposite. Generalists are great over the the course of a regular season when things are always changing and turbulent. But once they get locked in a phonebooth against a specialist, they aren't going to win. Tucker isn't Chuck Hayes. He's not stopping a real big. He's also not stopping a quick guard. The Spurs had defensive versatility in the Medium Three era because they had defenders who could guard the NBA's best at every level, not because they had a bunch of switchable guys. It's a different league now, but controlling for talent, it's better to play a diverse roster with guys who are good at their position rather than a roster that relies on size differences to mask the lack of talent. A lineup of five guys with Prime Lebron's size, talent and athleticism obviously beats every other lineup. But most teams don't have any guy who can approximate that even just defensively, let alone five.

[PhantomDashCam]

PD Web and Bryce Hendricks Break down Josh Primo's Summer League.

https://twitter.com/abovethebreak3/status/1431643764016168962?s=20


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rddlQCInVBc

[KingKev]

PD Web and Bryce Hendricks Break down Josh Primo's Summer League.

https://twitter.com/abovethebreak3/status/1431643764016168962?s=20


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rddlQCInVBc


why did they just spend 5 minutes talking about how he gathered his left foot?

[PhantomDashCam]

why did they just spend 5 minutes talking about how he gathered his left foot?

They’re wondering whether it’s possibly a biomechanic issue with the lower leg, is my guess.
When he puts on weight and as he grows, does it exasperate a possible flaw in the motion leading to unexpected wear and tear, possible injuries related to it down the line.

[KingKev]

They’re wondering whether it’s possibly a biomechanic issue with the lower leg, is my guess.
When he puts on weight and as he grows, does it exasperate a possible flaw in the motion leading to unexpected wear and tear, possible injuries related to it down the line.

Quite the analysis!

[Dex]

why did they just spend 5 minutes talking about how he gathered his left foot?

I see the concern, but I got the point in about the first 30 seconds....yet they kept talking and talking and talking about it. :lol

Also, it was one shot from an 18-year old in a summer league game. He is obviously not going to have picture perfect form on every shot.

Some people obviously have way more time to dedicate to watching basketball than I do.

[exstatic]

I see the concern, but I got the point in about the first 30 seconds....yet they kept talking and talking and talking about it. :lol

Also, it was one shot from an 18-year old in a summer league game. He is obviously not going to have picture perfect form on every shot.

Some people obviously have way more time to dedicate to watching basketball than I do.

It’s not just form. They’re talking about a potential physical issue that only showed itself in his form, that his left ankle may not support him.

[KingKev]

I see the concern, but I got the point in about the first 30 seconds....yet they kept talking and talking and talking about it. :lol

Also, it was one shot from an 18-year old in a summer league game. He is obviously not going to have picture perfect form on every shot.

Some people obviously have way more time to dedicate to watching basketball than I do.

Imagine analyzing a young Manu eurostep and predicting that it could be cause for concern. Hopefully they are trained osteopaths. The Spurs medical team has had its issues lately lol

[spurraider21]

Yeah, for some reason people always see Houston as some proof that small-ball worked, but it was basically the opposite. Generalists are great over the the course of a regular season when things are always changing and turbulent. But once they get locked in a phonebooth against a specialist, they aren't going to win. Tucker isn't Chuck Hayes. He's not stopping a real big. He's also not stopping a quick guard. The Spurs had defensive versatility in the Medium Three era because they had defenders who could guard the NBA's best at every level, not because they had a bunch of switchable guys. It's a different league now, but controlling for talent, it's better to play a diverse roster with guys who are good at their position rather than a roster that relies on size differences to mask the lack of talent. A lineup of five guys with Prime Lebron's size, talent and athleticism obviously beats every other lineup. But most teams don't have any guy who can approximate that even just defensively, let alone five.
worked with draymond, though. miami played a ton with bosh at C. feels weird to pick out Houson and say oh their small ball lineup couldnt account for a lebron/AD pairing so it doesnt work.

[Chinook]

worked with draymond, though. miami played a ton with bosh at C. feels weird to pick out Houson and say oh their small ball lineup couldnt account for a lebron/AD pairing so it doesnt work.

So Bosh and Tucker are very different sizes. And Draymond doesn't play C full time because that wouldn't work. Houston is the team that thought they cheat-coded the NBA. Having All-NBA talents do their thing even though they're shorter than you'd like isn't the same thing as believing that switching and spacing can replace talent.

[spurraider21]

So Bosh and Tucker are very different sizes. And Draymond doesn't play C full time because that wouldn't work. Houston is the team that thought they cheat-coded the NBA. Having All-NBA talents do their thing even though they're shorter than you'd like isn't the same thing as believing that switching and spacing can replace talent.
i think bosh at the 5 would still count as small ball, in the scheme of things. the would have some lineups with joel anthony or birdman at C, so it wasnt their full time lineup.

imo houston was successful, and dantoni is heavily underrated.

[exstatic]

i think bosh at the 5 would still count as small ball, in the scheme of things. the would have some lineups with joel anthony or birdman at C, so it wasnt their full time lineup.

imo houston was successful, and dantoni is heavily underrated.

Successful? No more so than his always falling short Suns. The only thing most people remember is that you didn’t ring. Doesn’t matter if you’re a player or a coach. Malone, Barkley, and Ewing get the same treatment.

My aha moment with Coach three names was after GS won their first ring, he said that he felt it validated his system, completely missing the fact that GS was THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN Drtg. That shit is kind of important, but Three names never gets it.

[spurraider21]

Successful? No more so than his always falling short Suns. The only thing most people remember is that you didn’t ring. Doesn’t matter if you’re a player or a coach. Malone, Barkley, and Ewing get the same treatment.

My aha moment with Coach three names was after GS won their first ring, he said that he felt it validated his system, completely missing the fact that GS was THE NUMBER ONE TEAM IN Drtg. That shit is kind of important, but Three names never gets it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bxJ0PGSJ-Uc

[Drom John]

Top 10 SG FiveThirtyEight Raptor WAR (minimum 1058 minutes, their default)

1) Paul George
2) Luka Doncic
3) Jrue Holiday
4) Devin Booker
5) Mikal Bridges
6) Jimmy Butler
7) James Harden
8) Nicolas Batum
9) Bradley Beal
10) Fred VanVleet

28) Derrick White

36T) DeMar DeRozan

59) Patty Mills

96 out of 96) Lonnie Walker IV

[ace3g]

Primo is officially a Nike athlete.

“He’s a Nike athlete officially now,” said Primo’s agent Todd Ramasar. “He’ll be wearing more Nikes on the floor as well as some of those exclusive Jordans.”



https://www.kens5.com/article/sports/nba/spurs/spurs-joshua-primo-nike-ahead-of-2021-22-nba-season-san-antonio/273-24347717-20ef-4898-aec2-8ac50b3efd94

[wildbill2u]

I see the concern, but I got the point in about the first 30 seconds....yet they kept talking and talking and talking about it. :lol

Also, it was one shot from an 18-year old in a summer league game. He is obviously not going to have picture perfect form on every shot.

Some people obviously have way more time to dedicate to watching basketball than I do.

Exactly m thought. While every player wants to be perfect in every part of the mechanics of shooting, I don't think it is possible during a dynamic move off the dribble. Your direction and speed of motion causes some subtle shift in the body's positioning and the planting of the foot. Not to mention the fact that we all have one foot shorter than the other that our mind factors in in split second. Shooting mechanics combine all sorts of body, hand, foot movements in an instant of time. It simply can't be the exact same way every time over 1000 shots since we are not robots.

Look at how some players like our new guard Jones contort his body while in the air on some shots and scores by using tremendous body control. Some players have that talent more than others. However, bad habitual shooting mechanics can be improved with good coaching. Remember the horrible form Murray brought into the league on his jump shot, he was coming down sideways on his off foot, giving the ball a sideways rotation??? I doubted he would ever overcome that, but Chip has done a great job and he is now a passable shooter with a proper rotation on the ball.

What Primo will have to look out for is habitually not landing in proper form or balance on that off foot. Eventually that can lead to injuries over a long season or career. Murray has learned and improved and I bet Primo will too.

[ducks]

Really

[Atl Spur]

Nice job Primo....

[cd98]

And yet he spent most of his minutes as the backup point guard, which means he'll ride the bench or go to the G league because Tre Jones has that job.

[Mr. Body]

And yet he spent most of his minutes as the backup point guard, which means he'll ride the bench or go to the G league because Tre Jones has that job.

They were just trying him out at that spot. Don't get hung up about it.

[Dejounte]

Folks still stuck on traditional positional basketball :lmao :lmao

The Spurs and most other teams are trotting out players who can play. Period. The ball is being handled by far more players than it used to be. You can play four guards and win.

[Sugus]

And yet he spent most of his minutes as the backup point guard, which means he'll ride the bench or go to the G league because Tre Jones has that job.

There's no worries about Tre and Primo overlapping: their games couldn't be more different. Primo's game is wholly based on his shooting, at all levels, to open up opportunities for him to score (or threaten to score and pass out of it, like his assist to Forbes tonight); meanwhile, Tre is much more of a "traditional PG", setting guys up, driving to the hoop as his main weapon to open up the offense and pass out of dribble penetrations, or score in a variety of layup-related moves at the rim. You could perfectly play them both together, in fact, if the opponent doesn't have too much length at the 1-2 spots.

That said, Primo's definitely bound for at least a half season of G-League, no matter the overlap with any other players. The best he can do is take it in stride, and try to literally score his way out of the G-L. A couple 20-30pt performances will get him demand on the big boy club, for sure.

[Atl Spur]

In two years this guy may be a cornerstone barring injury.... I like the kids demeanor!

[Mr. Body]

In two years this guy may be a cornerstone barring injury.... I like the kids demeanor!

In two years this kid is going to be twenty. Kind of crazy.

[Atl Spur]

In two years this kid is going to be twenty. Kind of crazy.

That is super crazy.....

[look_at_g_shred]

Call me crazy but I see Tatum in his game.

[Russ]

Call me crazy but I see Tatum in his game.

He reminds me a bit more of Gervin (as mentioned a few weeks ago), not that he'll be that good.

He has a long, lanky deceptive fluidity to his game -- very efficient and seeming almost effortless, especially around the basket. Also a calm (Iceman) demeanor at all times.

One difference is, Primo looks like he's all in on defense and at his age and build (at this point) is pretty effective on that end even now. Gervin was no defender.

In sum, the comparison is audacious and is more about style, build and potential -- not saying he'll be Gervin but just reminds.

[Atl Spur]

Primo has a level of confidence most people don’t possess..... manu esque

[EricB]

He reminds me a bit more of Gervin (as mentioned a few weeks ago), not that he'll be that good.

He has a long, lanky deceptive fluidity to his game -- very efficient and seeming almost effortless, especially around the basket. Also a calm (Iceman) demeanor at all times.

One difference is, Primo looks like he's all in on defense and at his age and build (at this point) is pretty effective on that end even now. Gervin was no defender.

In sum, the comparison is audacious and is more about style, build and potential -- not saying he'll be Gervin but just reminds.


i said at the time watching him at Alabama and summer league, you see Devin Booker with defense. Fingers crossed he stays healthy. He seems to have “it”

[EricB]

Primo has a level of confidence most people don’t possess..... manu esque


hence why he’s back.

[Ice009]

hence why he’s back.

Manu's back for Primo?

[tim_duncan_fan]

If Primo gets his handles together, he is going to be a serious problem for other teams.

[jermaine]

I hate to think we're gonna lose this kid or cost him his confidence by stashing him in the G-League. That Wiscamp kid too. I don't understand why isn't he getting heavy mins. The Spurs have always just felt they have to stash their pick except KaQuiter

[daslicer]

I hate to think we're gonna lose this kid or cost him his confidence by stashing him in the G-League. That Wiscamp kid too. I don't understand why isn't he getting heavy mins. The Spurs have always just felt they have to stash their pick except KaQuiter

I think Pop is still delusional in the sense that he's playing to win games in hopes of getting to the playoffs when in reality even if this team tries hard they are still a lottery team.

[Texas_Ranger]

wont be surprised if he's cut in 2 years.

[Atl Spur]

wont be surprised if he's cut in 2 years.

Doubt it.....

[Mnky]

Call me crazy but I see Tatum in his game.

I see that too. Tatum reminds me of Kobe.. as such Primo really reminds me of Kobe as well with his demeanor and attitude. You see it come out on the court when someone blankets him and he splashes it in their face.

He has a..dare I say...Mamba Mentality. (Darn the interwebs for making me say that)

He is nowhere near the amazing athlete Kobe was, but the kid is an athlete and has a burst showing up once or twice a game in the preseason I hadn't seen in college tape. Awareness is very good. Was really impressed with his patience on plays last game. He pulled back on a switch and I was for sure he was going to let it fly with the spacing he got, but he knew the whole time where it was going. The mismatch created down low. Easy two points. May seem like a little thing to some, but that was big to me in his ability to be a true difference maker later on.

His Mentality could make him special.

[lefty]

Folks still stuck on traditional positional basketball :lmao :lmao

The Spurs and most other teams are trotting out players who can play. Period. The ball is being handled by far more players than it used to be. You can play four guards and win.