Around the League / Regular Season Thread (Upstairs Version)

[Mr. Body]

Kerr literally admitted it

Like, in terms of structure? Sure. In terms of the moving screens and that? Nope.

[Mal]

Not NBA, but Tiago Splitters` coached Paris Basket is 6-3 in Euroleague and up 10 at Barcelona. Solid job by TS

[CorrectCrusader]

I watched some of the possessions down the stretch in UTA-DAL. I have no idea what Doncic was doing in the last defensive possession. Clarkson (I think) zipped a pass to his guy standing behind him, as he was standing there turned away, who was right under the basket. I literally have no idea what he was doing.

He was doing something, just not defending

[exstatic]

Like, in terms of structure? Sure. In terms of the moving screens and that? Nope.

:lol Tim got away for YEARS with that swinging gate dribble handoff, which was a moving screen.

[Joseph Kony]

I assume Doncic thought a collins screen was coming for Clarkson, but wtf was he even looking at :lol it's funny how one can be an offensive savant but completely lost on the other side of the court

[Pauleta14]

Like, in terms of structure? Sure. In terms of the moving screens and that? Nope.

Sure, neither the leniency of the refs towards travelling and carrying :lol

Pop is the one that, despite openly hating the 3pts shooting, understood it was the way to take the most advantages of the rules.

Having a scoring PG rather than game manager helped or pushed him in that direction too, but he Spurs started it in 12' and mastered it in 14'-15'

Without this blueprint, Curry wouldn't have been able to shine as much by becoming an off ball player and "delegating" some of the playmaking to DG

[spurraider21]

I would make the argument that the leagues yields from 2 and 3 Pters aren’t because of the 3 opening everything up, but because travelling calls and moving screen calls (or lack thereof) is tilting the balance heavily towards offence. The league stumbled upon the formula due to the warriors and then continued to loosen the rules to allow a sickening amount of offence. Now the game is becoming unbearably one dimensional with no mid range games and limited low post games. Entire play books are around high pick and rolls, baseline screens and in and outs. It’s becoming a bland and predictable game.
agree with a lot of this

moving screens bother me so much, because they're always incredibly obvious, and then they will randomly get whistled, as though it was any more blatant than the same thing done on the 8 prior possessions.

i dont care that much about the hand-checking stuff that a lot of people complain about. its really the moving screens and the weak foul-baiting stuff, which to be fair, the league HAS started to come back on. stuff like rip throughs, unnatural shooting motions, the trae young jump backwards into the defender stuff. it still gets called, but the league really has started to clamp on it quite a bit, and thats good.

the last thing is just how loose the definition of a "gather step" has gotten

[heyheymymy]

damn, N. Marshall's body language says it all in that second clip posted last page

[scott]

agree with a lot of this

moving screens bother me so much, because they're always incredibly obvious, and then they will randomly get whistled, as though it was any more blatant than the same thing done on the 8 prior possessions.

i dont care that much about the hand-checking stuff that a lot of people complain about. its really the moving screens and the weak foul-baiting stuff, which to be fair, the league HAS started to come back on. stuff like rip throughs, unnatural shooting motions, the trae young jump backwards into the defender stuff. it still gets called, but the league really has started to clamp on it quite a bit, and thats good.

the last thing is just how loose the definition of a "gather step" has gotten

Have seen some interesting thoughts about possibly making 2s into 3s and 3s into 4s to add more balance to the game. Would make counting stats incongruent but might result in a better game

[spurraider21]

Have seen some interesting thoughts about possibly making 2s into 3s and 3s into 4s to add more balance to the game. Would make counting stats incongruent but might result in a better game
while that may be a statistically elegant solution, i think its more likely they just move the 3 point line. eliminate the corner 3, move the line back, etc

[LeBowen]

https://youtu.be/6IPXSqOhykg?si=o-HEwfQqrQyh9Wzz

Once again I'm posting the answer to all the issues NBA currently has.
We don't need no rule changes, we just need those rules to be enforced.
It's just an awful product right now with all the carries, travels, moving screens and inconsistent foul criteria.

Why play on the inside where defenders are still allowed to push, pull, swipe and get physical when you can just kick out your feet on every jumpshot and get free throws?

[Seventyniner]

while that may be a statistically elegant solution, i think its more likely they just move the 3 point line. eliminate the corner 3, move the line back, etc

Eliminating the corner 3 is probably the easiest thing to do. It will be much easier to guard the 3 point line when you can only really space 3 shooters along it at the most.

Another idea is to just turn the 3 point line off in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.

The idea I liked the most, though it was probably the least intuitive, was to have shots made beyond the arc alternate between being worth 2 and 3 points, with a green light next to the shot clock to indicate which (off = 2 points, on = 3 points, every make toggles it). That's equivalent to having the shots be worth 4 and 5 but this method has the advantage of keeping scores consistent with the past.

It would be easy to just leave the light on for the last 2 minutes of the 4th and all OTs so that teams can still mount late comebacks.

[heyheymymy]

Jesus these are some wild ideas but im open to it

[lefty20]

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Anything would be better than the current version of the ASG, tbh.

[Mugen]

Who cares about the All Star game tbh? Stop trying to make it competitive.

[heyheymymy]

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Anything would be better than the current version of the ASG, tbh.

that's actually pretty cool. gives some competition to it and I like the Rising Star guy earning the spot with the big dogs as something to fight for

[SpursBills]

A bunch of third year guys off to strong starts this year -

Sochan, Daniels, Mathurin, Ivey still seems kind of fool's gold to me but he's playing better, Eason looks legit, Sharpe had a really nice game the other night

Add those guys to Chet/JDub/Paolo and it's looking like a strong class all around

[Pauleta14]

Gradey Dick is the player that surprised me the most, the kid is really good!

Stayed on his embarrassing as much as generous block that allowed Wemby to get his 1st triple dble, he's a mid range machine!

[John B]

Who cares about the All Star game tbh? Stop trying to make it competitive.

When Wemby and Castle are AS mainstays, Spurs fans would care :lol

Those DRob when he was an athletic freak was cool to watch. Not much Timmy because his style was not meant for AS exhibitions. But Wemby? He’ll be an AS favorite.

[Mugen]

When Wemby and Castle are AS mainstays, Spurs fans would care :lol

Those DRob when he was an athletic freak was cool to watch. Not much Timmy because his style was not meant for AS exhibitions. But Wemby? He’ll be an AS favorite.

When Timmy, Porky, Manu, and Nephew were making AS games as Spurs, I literally didn't care about the actual game. I only cared about the recognition tbh.

[John B]

When Timmy, Porky, Manu, and Nephew were making AS games as Spurs, I literally didn't care about the actual game. I only cared about the recognition tbh.

When an AS MVP is wearing a Spurs jersey, and it will be several with Wemby I bet, it will be fun for Spurs fans.

[Seventyniner]

Wemby is gonna shoot 20 threes in this year's ASG. Hopefully he can make at least 6.

[LeBowen]

Hornets beat the Bucks!

[quentin_compson]

Man, the Bucks really are looking bad so far. Giannis is an absolute monster on the offensive end, but seems to have lost a bit of juice and/or determination defensively. Overall, the team's core seems to just have aged out of contention as a collective. That being said, the season is still young, the East seems to mostly suck, and I still can see the Bucks making the Conference Finals.

[Strategic]

He’s prolly gonna make a liar out of me but in crunch time Josh Giddy is dog shit.

[DPG21920]

Nice win for the Bulls. Would be sick if we can get an ATL loss as well.

[exstatic]

He’s prolly gonna make a liar out of me but in crunch time Josh Giddy is dog shit.

He’s probably getting reacquainted with the concept. OKC never finished games with him last year. He can’t shoot, but like Castle, he should have enough size and handle to work around that. Disclaimer: I’m not a huge Giddey fan.

[onechance87]

wtf 76ers doing....They gonna give okc a top 10 pick.Idiots

[exstatic]

wtf 76ers doing....They gonna give okc a top 10 pick.Idiots

Notif they draft 1-4. It’s a huge risk, because even if they finish 1-4, it’s only 52% odds that they stay thereafter the lottery. I also don’t think this is intentional.

[lefty]

:lol Rockettes

[KingKev]

When an AS MVP is wearing a Spurs jersey, and it will be several with Wemby I bet, it will be fun for Spurs fans.

Agreed. Wemby is a high-lite machine and enjoys the shine. He is going to be an AS game mainstay till he gets tired of it and needs to use that time to rest and focus on getting ready for the final stretch of the season.

[RC_Drunkford]

wtf 76ers doing....They gonna give okc a top 10 pick.Idiots

they got the Sixers pick too? As if the Clippers pick wasn‘t enough

[baseline bum]

they got the Sixers pick too? As if the Clippers pick wasn‘t enough

Yeah they have Philly's pick, top 6 protected. Which becomes top 4 protected for 2026. They also have Miami's pick, top 14 protected. I'm not sure what protection there is (if any) in 2026 if the Heat pick doesn't convey this year. Also the Clippers pick is best pick between the Clippers and Rockets (top 10 protected for Houston though).

[exstatic]

Yeah they have Philly's pick, top 6 protected. Which becomes top 4 protected for 2026. They also have Miami's pick, top 14 protected. I'm not sure what protection there is (if any) in 2026 if the Heat pick doesn't convey this year. Also the Clippers pick is best pick between the Clippers and Rockets (top 10 protected for Houston though).

Sixers pick is 1-6 protected according to TaT.

[RC_Drunkford]

OKC playing chess while PATFO are playing domino

[Strategic]

Cavs starting out lost against the Celtics.could get ugly

[Strategic]

Damn Celtics don’t even think about going inside.

[Robz4000]

:lol Spurs made Shaqtin' again

[Spurs Homer]

Dalton knecht

9/11 3 pt

22 pts in a row at one point…

spurs front office geniuses passed up on him…

[z0sa]

Dalton knecht

9/11 3 pt

22 pts in a row at one point…

spurs front office geniuses passed up on him…

Literally the guy I called/wanted as 8. Truly pisses me off the Lakers got him

[Spurs Homer]

Literally the guy I called/wanted as 8. Truly pisses me off the Lakers got him


yeah…there were a couple of guys that were worth a shot…but to just trade it away when our shooters suck is baffling

[spurs1990]

Kenect on his high is limitless. And then on his lows he’s invisible. Feast and famine production this year

[scott]

One thing to keep in mind - Knecht or McCain (or anyone else for that matter) wouldn't be putting up these kind of numbers with the Spurs, becase the Spurs weren't going to give heavy minutes to two rookies. It would have made sense to take someone at 8, I agree, but they wouldn't have similar production on our team and that's okay. I'm just happy that Castle is minutes in line with previous Spurs Top 5 picks (which consists entirely of David, Sean, Tim, and Wemby).

[poopbox]

76ers on the verge of implosion. Embiid pouting after every play, PG somehow looks works than Tobias Harris, and they lucky to only be down 10 to a grizzlies team missing multiple players after giving up a wide open 3 almost every play. They are somehow as bad as we are at giving up open 3's, except we didn't hand out around half a billion in salaries to 3 players in the last few months like they did

[spurraider21]

76ers on the verge of implosion. Embiid pouting after every play, PG somehow looks works than Tobias Harris, and they lucky to only be down 10 to a grizzlies team missing multiple players after giving up a wide open 3 almost every play. They are somehow as bad as we are at giving up open 3's, except we didn't hand out around half a billion in salaries to 3 players in the last few months like they did
they also just had one of the dreaded player-only meetings where apparently maxey was just calling out embiid the whole time

[onechance87]

surely 76ers go for the tank now since george got hurt once again.

[DAF86]

Fuck we need the Sixers to be better than the Hawks. Everybody fucking sucks in the East. The Spurs could make the conference finals on that shitty ass conference.

[LeBowen]

Zion out until January and in peak shape:

https://i.imgur.com/zJDfpKS.png

https://streamable.com/39vngi

:lol

At least Pelicans have that clause to get rid of him. I predict he'll be out of the league in 3 years.
What a lazy fuck.

[Seventyniner]

Zion out until January and in peak shape:

January of what year? And round is a shape.

[Mugen]

Fuck we need the Sixers to be better than the Hawks. Everybody fucking sucks in the East. The Spurs could make the conference finals on that shitty ass conference.

And the f'n Thunder own the Sixers '25 pick top 6 protected. Them shitting the bed this season is so annoying tbh.

[LeBowen]

And the f'n Thunder own the Sixers '25 pick top 6 protected. Them shitting the bed this season is so annoying tbh.

Even though OKC getting a top6 would be horrible, I don't care, I'm really enjoying Embiid's downfall, such a dispicable character.

https://i.redd.it/jvjo6d9yai2e1.jpeg

:lol

[spurraider21]

why would embiid be the one putting out the story that made him look like shit? this doesnt make sense

[scott]

And the f'n Thunder own the Sixers '25 pick top 6 protected. Them shitting the bed this season is so annoying tbh.

Only two options for PHI to protect their pick... and they're succeeding at it so far (those two ways being 1) having the worst record in the league or 2) having the second worst record in the league)

[exstatic]

And the f'n Thunder own the Sixers '25 pick top 6 protected. Them shitting the bed this season is so annoying tbh.

Might be why they appear to be leading the tank race. It’s a gamble if you’re not one of the worst two teams. Those are locks for top six.

[Mal]

Might be why they appear to be leading the tank race. It’s a gamble if you’re not one of the worst two teams. Those are locks for top six.

They spend over 600 mil on players extensions. No way, they are going to tank after that.

[lefty20]

They spend over 600 mil on players extensions. No way, they are going to tank after that.

Agreed.

East is complete dogshit. Assuming Philly can get their shit together in the next few games. They've still got enough time to recover and finish around the .500 mark.

[onechance87]

Agreed.

East is complete dogshit. Assuming Philly can get their shit together in the next few games. They've still got enough time to recover and finish around the .500 mark.

i mean there seems to be tenstion or weird energy between the players and front office.Something going on for
them to be this bad.Cant be injury excuses cause other teamns have them to.

[lefty20]

I might've spoken too soon.

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Knee swelling up even after they've given him the full Nephew treatment to start the year. Yikes!

[spurraider21]

arite what the fuck is jared mccain

[Obstructed_View]

arite what the fuck is jared mccain
He's the guy I said to take at 8.

[objective]

Just because McCain is setting rookie records doesn't mean he's anything special.

Brian Wright drafted guards like Primo, Wesley, and Branham. If he passed on McCain, how good can he possibly be?

[Strategic]

Sad to see the Nuggets rely so heavily on Westbrook. Sure happy the Spurs got Chris Paul and didn’t end up with Russ.

[exstatic]

Sad to see the Nuggets rely so heavily on Westbrook. Sure happy the Spurs got Chris Paul and didn’t end up with Russ.

Westbrook is having a renaissance playing off The Joker. He’s washed as anything other than a support player.

[Strategic]

Westbrook is having a renaissance playing off The Joker. He’s washed as anything other than a support player. Kinda sad how Westbrook and Paul’s career’s are similar. They’ve both bounced around different teams so much, and Russell is a couple years younger. At least Russ made it to the finals once.

[exstatic]

Kinda sad how Westbrook and Paul’s career’s are similar. They’ve both bounced around different teams so much, and Russell is a couple years younger. At least Russ made it to the finals once.

So did CP3, with Phoenix. Russ won’t be playing at 40. He’s on a vet min deal, probably hoping to score something better, but as a support player who’s 36, I don’t like his chances in the era of the second apron.

[Strategic]

Now the Nuggets playing DeAndre Jordan.

[Strategic]

Lively could miss some games after that fall. Mavs suck

[lefty20]

Murray getting bullied on defense by Mavs last couple mins.

[spursparker9]

Phi is definitely tanking for Flagg :lol

All their drama are just to prevent being fine by Silver. :lol

Trust the process!

[Obstructed_View]

Just because McCain is setting rookie records doesn't mean he's anything special.

Brian Wright drafted guards like Primo, Wesley, and Branham. If he passed on McCain, how good can he possibly be?
And to be fair, McCain would have been such a reach at 8. Better to get the true value of that pick with three future assets of some sort. The Spurs are so deep and talented right now that you couldn't shoehorn a 20 point scorer into the rotation.

[baseline bum]

Man WTF happened to Haliburton? Dude is averaging 12.5ppg on 31.8% shooting with 22.7% shooting from the three in his 10 road games this season. Starting to look like Sacramento scammed the fuck out of Indiana in that trade to get Sabonis.

[baseline bum]

Kinda sad how Westbrook and Paul’s career’s are similar. They’ve both bounced around different teams so much, and Russell is a couple years younger. At least Russ made it to the finals once.

I don't see them similar at all. CP3 makes every team he goes to way better. Westbrook makes them worse.

[LeBowen]

Man WTF happened to Haliburton? Dude is averaging 12.5ppg on 31.8% shooting with 22.7% shooting from the three in his 10 road games this season. Starting to look like Sacramento scammed the fuck out of Indiana in that trade to get Sabonis.

One season wonder?

He's even worse than in the playoffs.
His assist/turnover ratio is still fine, but he lost a step after that hamstring injury and can't adjust.

Big yikes for that contract. Guards aren't worth a max unless they're legit stars or positives on both ends of the floor.

[baseline bum]

One season wonder?

He's even worse than in the playoffs.
His assist/turnover ratio is still fine, but he lost a step after that hamstring injury and can't adjust.

Big yikes for that contract. Guards aren't worth a max unless they're legit stars or positives on both ends of the floor.

More like a half season wonder. I mean damn if Branham was playing like that we'd all be pissed.

[Sugus]

Man WTF happened to Haliburton? Dude is averaging 12.5ppg on 31.8% shooting with 22.7% shooting from the three in his 10 road games this season. Starting to look like Sacramento scammed the fuck out of Indiana in that trade to get Sabonis.

Word is he's been dealing with back spasm issues. They're one of the most debilitating injuries, to be fair.

I didn't really follow him closely at the time, and don't know when these issues began, but man, if Sacramento knew about his bad back before the trade... Genius move. I'll admit I didn't think they would ever win the trade, but if Hali doesn't get healthier, that contract's gonna blow.

[baseline bum]

Word is he's been dealing with back spasm issues. They're one of the most debilitating injuries, to be fair.

I didn't really follow him closely at the time, and don't know when these issues began, but man, if Sacramento knew about his bad back before the trade... Genius move. I'll admit I didn't think they would ever win the trade, but if Hali doesn't get healthier, that contract's gonna blow.

It's weird his home numbers are good though: 20.8ppg, 46.2% FG, 39.2% 3FG. Is getting on a plane fucking up his back?

[spurraider21]

It's weird his home numbers are good though: 20.8ppg, 46.2% FG, 39.2% 3FG. Is getting on a plane fucking up his back?
It’s not like they don’t fly back to Indiana

[Strategic]

I don't see them similar at all. CP3 makes every team he goes to way better. Westbrook makes them worse.
No similarities at all? You must be a closet laker fan. I was only speaking about how they have bounced around the league.’ Maybe you could explain how he personally made the Thunder worse? Then how did he personally make the Wizards even worse? I don’t remember hearing any of his teammates say he made the team worse, only some of the lakers may have trashed him, again with your lakers.

[exstatic]

Man WTF happened to Haliburton? Dude is averaging 12.5ppg on 31.8% shooting with 22.7% shooting from the three in his 10 road games this season. Starting to look like Sacramento scammed the fuck out of Indiana in that trade to get Sabonis.

He’s suffering from no Hield, who opened up their offense with his gravity.

[LeBowen]

He’s suffering from no Hield, who opened up their offense with his gravity.

I won't say Hield was a non-factor, but that's just a bad take.
Haliburton looked like second coming of Harden at times before the injury with all those stepbacks, now he can't get any separation at all. Nothing to do with the rest of the rosster.

[Sugus]

It's weird his home numbers are good though: 20.8ppg, 46.2% FG, 39.2% 3FG. Is getting on a plane fucking up his back?

Honestly, with how fucking random back issues can be, it might just be that home accommodations, extra time for pre-game preparation with the training staff, etc, are exactly what's helping him at home. We really aren't very privy to this sorta stuff.

However, having dealt with back issues in the past, I can tell you the slightest fucking thing can trigger spasms out of the blue and you're instantly crippled. I was lucky - strengthening the core and back muscles, neglected due to an office job, solved my problem. But at the elite athlete level? It's not that easy at all.

I really hope it doesn't follow Hali the rest of his career, his game is very "swaggy" and confidence-dependent, and nothing like a recurring injury to sap your confidence and strength. Sucks to see. Pacers fans seem very worried also, reports of him with heat pads on the bench and stuff.

[Sugus]

I won't say Hield was a non-factor, but that's just a bad take.
Haliburton looked like second coming of Harden at times before the injury with all those stepbacks, now he can't get any separation at all. Nothing to do with the rest of the rosster.

Yeah, the difference in his game is night and day. Exactly the way Ben Simmons' game fell off a cliff before his back issues became public knowledge.

[baseline bum]

No similarities at all? You must be a closet laker fan. I was only speaking about how they have bounced around the league.’ Maybe you could explain how he personally made the Thunder worse? Then how did he personally make the Wizards even worse? I don’t remember hearing any of his teammates say he made the team worse, only some of the lakers may have trashed him, again with your lakers.

He wrecked the Rockets too when they traded CP3 for him. He was likely a huge reason Durant left OKC.

[Seventyniner]

A discussion about back problems on a Spurs board that doesn't include David Robinson? Blasphemy!

[Strategic]

He wrecked the Rockets too when they traded CP3 for him. He was likely a huge reason Durant left OKC.
How did Paul make the warriors better?

[baseline bum]

How did Paul make the warriors better?

OK, CP3 improved the hell out of all but one team he went to. Westbrook on the other hand was a cancer in OKC, Houston, and on the Lakers and was empty stats in Washington while being a mixed bag on the Clippers.

[The Truth #6]

Westbrook almost never contributes to winning basketball. I didn't think that was still debatable.

[LeBowen]

Jazz just beat the Knicks, gives our win even more value, they're not that bad.
Knicks need to change somethings, probably won't happen with Thibs. Can't play 8man rotation in regular season with starters all playing 35+ minutes.

Markkanen with 34 points on 15 shots, disgusting.

[scott]

Jazz just beat the Knicks, gives our win even more value, they're not that bad.
Knicks need to change somethings, probably won't happen with Thibs. Can't play 8man rotation in regular season with starters all playing 35+ minutes.

Markkanen with 34 points on 15 shots, disgusting.

I spent 10 minutes more than I should have, but I can find no ways for us to jettison Collins, Keldon, Blake or BranHim to NYK (without knowing what they need, I'll just say they NEED one of those four guys). At least I tried.

[Mr. Body]

Jazz just beat the Knicks, gives our win even more value, they're not that bad.
Knicks need to change somethings, probably won't happen with Thibs. Can't play 8man rotation in regular season with starters all playing 35+ minutes.

Markkanen with 34 points on 15 shots, disgusting.

The East is straight trash.

[Mr. Body]

Jazz just beat the Knicks, gives our win even more value, they're not that bad.
Knicks need to change somethings, probably won't happen with Thibs. Can't play 8man rotation in regular season with starters all playing 35+ minutes.

Markkanen with 34 points on 15 shots, disgusting.

The East is straight trash.

[RC_Drunkford]

the East is terrible, but I think the West is also not that special tbh. The Warriors are first and lost Klay while adding role players like Kyle Anderson. Buddy Hield was their biggest aquisition. Lakers only added Knecht. Nuggets lost KCP. Clippers lost PG and nephew can't play. Wolves lost KAT and replaced him with a worse version in Randle. Mavs added washed up Klay. Kings added DeRozan who basically adds nothing. Pels will have to waive Zion. Suns and Grizzlies don't look scary either and neither does OKC, although they are a good team. Rockets are nothing special.

I think we can easily make the playoffs, we've never even had all of our best players available yet.

[onechance87]

need miami and pacers to step up and start playing better

[NASpurs]

https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2024-25-week-6

Spurs are #13 in the NBA power rankings. When's the last time they were top half in any power ranking. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2024-25-week-6

Spurs are #13 in the NBA power rankings. When's the last time they were top half in any power ranking. :lol

2017? Maybe 2018

[Joseph Kony]

Porizingis returning tonight for Boston. Crazy how good they are and he barely ever plays

[heyheymymy]

https://www.nba.com/news/power-rankings-2024-25-week-6

Spurs are #13 in the NBA power rankings. When's the last time they were top half in any power ranking. :lol

+6 leap in one week for SA

[lefty20]

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[lefty20]

Zinger back for the Celtics.

They are 16-34 from 3... in the 1st Half.

[CGD]

This Detroit team is still mostly bad, but they find themselves in some fun as hell games this year!

[spurraider21]

This Detroit team is still mostly bad, but they find themselves in some fun as hell games this year!
with Cade out today, no less

[CGD]

Meanwhile Denver sucks this year. What happened over there?

[lefty20]

Meanwhile Denver sucks this year. What happened over there?

No bench/depth whatsoever. Murray off to a bad start.

Joker has done some historic heavy lifting to drag them to a winning record.

[exstatic]

Meanwhile Denver sucks this year. What happened over there?

Porter’s contract finally caught up with them. They can’t keep their bench, or even some rotation players like KCP.

[Strategic]

No bench/depth whatsoever. Murray off to a bad start.

Joker has done some historic heavy lifting to drag them to a winning record. Nugget’s using Westbrook as a spark off the bench. Jeez! And DeAndre Jordan

[Strategic]

Just doesn’t look like the dubs are set up very well for the long season. Paper tigers

[spurraider21]

Porter’s contract finally caught up with them. They can’t keep their bench, or even some rotation players like KCP.
They just paid Aaron Gordon this offseason tho. It’s not just MPJ. It’s also Murray not living up to his standards or his contract right now

[LeBowen]

They just paid Aaron Gordon this offseason tho. It’s not just MPJ. It’s also Murray not living up to his standards or his contract right now

Murray has been their by far the biggest issue.
He's supposed to be the creator when Jokic sits, but he's been nothing short of atrocious.
As in he's no better than Devin in his current state and his max contract is just starting.
18ppg on 40/33/78, disgusting. 6'4, awful defender. They legit wouldn't be able to rid of him even if they just got expiring salary match in return. Not even Toronto would take Murray.
He's also been out of sorts if we're talking off the court stuff. Apparently he flew to Vegas to watch UFC the other night between two Nuggets games, just unacceptable.

MPJ is actually having his best season ever.
He's obviously not worth $35M a year, but at least he's been a positive contributor, unlike Murray.
And his contract is over in 2 years, he'd be easy to trade if Nuggets considered it.

[Obstructed_View]

I'm watching Milwaukee vs Miami and I thought, 'Gee, the Bucks play like they have a retard for a coach...ooooohhh yeah.'

[CGD]

Dilly v Jimmer right now

[spurraider21]

Dilly v Jimmer right now
:lol

[CGD]

If I’m MIN I’d call the Spurs about Tre Jones. They’re missing a connector. Not sure what happened to Mike Conley this season, but they seem to be really blah/stuck in mud. Also, I like Naz Reid and all, but he shouldn’t be relied on as much as he is IMO.

[Mugen]

If I’m MIN I’d call the Spurs about Tre Jones. They’re missing a connector. Not sure what happened to Mike Conley this season, but they seem to be really blah/stuck in mud. Also, I like Naz Reid and all, but he shouldn’t be relied on as much as he is IMO.

They've been giving him more mins recently but why spend all that future draft capital to trade up for Dillingham and not play him tbh? If you're afraid he's gonna be shit defensively then why trade for him at all, everybody and their mother knew he'd be garbage on that end as soon as his measurements were confirmed.

At least see what the kid can give you on the offensive end tbh.

[CGD]

They've been giving him more mins recently but why spend all that future draft capital to trade up for Dillingham and not play him tbh? If you're afraid he's gonna be shit defensively then why trade for him at all, everybody and their mother knew he'd be garbage on that end as soon as his measurements were confirmed.

At least see what the kid can give you on the offensive end tbh.

Agree, though they would say the KAT trade changed everything and they didn’t know at the time of the Dilly trade it would happen. In any case, Tre would be a good stop gap until Dilly is ready to go.

Also, Julius Randle has to be one of my least favorite players to watch in the league. I don’t know why exactly but I just don’t like his brand of basketball.

[Mr. Body]

Clash of the titans as Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham guarded each other for a few minutes and neither hit a single shot they took.

[lefty20]

Clash of the titans as Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham guarded each other for a few minutes and neither hit a single shot they took.

Defensive juggernauts, tbh.

[CGD]

Clash of the titans as Reed Sheppard and Rob Dillingham guarded each other for a few minutes and neither hit a single shot they took.

Who Reed Sheppard? I only see Jimmer.

[Mr. Body]

Just checked in and Dilly has 10, 7 and 5. I haven't been watching but that's not bad.

[objective]

If Minnesota watches film of Tre this season, they won't want to trade for him

[exstatic]

They've been giving him more mins recently but why spend all that future draft capital to trade up for Dillingham and not play him tbh? If you're afraid he's gonna be shit defensively then why trade for him at all, everybody and their mother knew he'd be garbage on that end as soon as his measurements were confirmed.

At least see what the kid can give you on the offensive end tbh.
They didn’t think NY would part with DiVincenzo and actually do the trade. That blocked Dilly’s path.

[LeBowen]

They didn’t think NY would part with DiVincenzo and actually do the trade. That blocked Dilly’s path.

DiVincenzo is already unhappy because he's not starting and he's been trash.
7/2/2 on 32/30/50 in 24mpg over past 8 games since their slide started.

What an awful move KAT trade turned out to be.

[Mr. Body]

DiVincenzo is already unhappy because he's not starting and he's been trash.
7/2/2 on 32/30/50 in 24mpg over past 8 games since their slide started.

What an awful move KAT trade turned out to be.

IMO the Wolves were playing above their level last year. Edwards is not Michael Jordan. Mike Conley is showing his age. Their role players aren't as tight as before. They had to move KAT for cap reasons, but it's not like the Knicks are doing great with him.

[LeBowen]

IMO the Wolves were playing above their level last year. Edwards is not Michael Jordan. Mike Conley is showing his age. Their role players aren't as tight as before. They had to move KAT for cap reasons, but it's not like the Knicks are doing great with him.

Even though he's got a center's body, KAT is a power forward. He was way better defensively at PF, did a great job on KD in the playoffs. Not good as a rim protector.
His spacing was obviously invaluable, he's one of the best shooters in the league in general, not just among big men.

Conley is obviously finished, Randle isn't a great fit, but McDaniels is their biggest issue. He got the same contract as Devin and while he's solid defensively, he's dropped below 30% from 3pt and that's all he does on offense.

Much like Kings, there's a reason why some franchises are always bad.

[exstatic]

Even though he's got a center's body, KAT is a power forward. He was way better defensively at PF, did a great job on KD in the playoffs. Not good as a rim protector.
His spacing was obviously invaluable, he's one of the best shooters in the league in general, not just among big men.

Conley is obviously finished, Randle isn't a great fit, but McDaniels is their biggest issue. He got the same contract as Devin and while he's solid defensively, he's dropped below 30% from 3pt and that's all he does on offense.

Much like Kings, there's a reason why some franchises are always bad.

And people are whining when we have future assets from both teams.

[ginobilized]

Looks like the T-Wolves might've gotten a case of "We've Arrived-itis" It happens when youngish teams over-achieve.
They are a hot mess. Not sure the coaching/front office are going to lead this team to much. I could see them making a desperation move around the trade deadline.

[lefty20]

Looks like the T-Wolves might've gotten a case of "We've Arrived-itis" It happens when youngish teams over-achieve.
They are a hot mess. Not sure the coaching/front office are going to lead this team to much. I could see them making a desperation move around the trade deadline.

T-Pups straight up shot themselves in the foot with the KAT trade. Deciding against running it back this year is a borderline criminal offense as far as I'm concerned.

[spurraider21]

T-Pups straight up shot themselves in the foot with the KAT trade. Deciding against running it back this year is a borderline criminal offense as far as I'm concerned.
yeah made no sense. it took over a year for them to find their footing with the Gobert/Towns frontcourt, it served them very well and they made the conference finals... and they immediately decided to trade away KAT for Randle who is just an abysmal fit alongside either of Edwards or Gobert (luckily, Edwards has leveled up again from 3 point range which helps).

everyone knew they were going to run up against cap issues later, but then just a few weeks after trading away KAT, they gave a 32 year old Rudy Gobert a 3 year 110 mil extension through his age 35 season. he has also predictably looked a lot worse playing with randle instead of towns

now theyre still in a shit cap spot, but with a worse long term outlook. Naz Reid will presumably opt out of his 15 mil next year. and then even if Randle opts out of his 31 mil, they can open up a max of 9 mil in cap space. they'd be better off operating above the cap anyway and having the MLE. NAW will also be a free agent... they botched it.

[RC_Drunkford]

trading KAT for Randle was stupid to begin with. They are completely different players and getting the Gobert/Towns tandem to work well was difficult enough for them to figure out. Just dumb decisions. I just hope we can snatch Naz Reid from them in the offseason.

[SpurSpike]

Valanciunis is not getting play time in Washington, will probably be traded by the deadline. Might be a good target for the Spurs.

[scott]

Valanciunis is not getting play time in Washington, will probably be traded by the deadline. Might be a good target for the Spurs.

Big Daddy can be traded after 12/15 and the trade machine says this works straight up. I'm not sure how many SRPs this would require, but I'd send them all :lol

https://i.ibb.co/19XQH91/Screenshot-2024-11-30-155851.png

[poopbox]

Big Daddy can be traded after 12/15 and the trade machine says this works straight up. I'm not sure how many SRPs this would require, but I'd send them all :lol

https://i.ibb.co/19XQH91/Screenshot-2024-11-30-155851.png
:lol How Collins end up in the "Versatile Big" group

[spurraider21]

Big Daddy can be traded after 12/15 and the trade machine says this works straight up. I'm not sure how many SRPs this would require, but I'd send them all :lol


id rather send 'em than spend 'em

[RC_Drunkford]

Hardy with some clutch tanking, calling time out right before Sexton made the game winner with 1.6 seconds on the clock :lol


https://youtu.be/bGXmGMtXSsk?si=MCSo1ad6XQMPy1UN

[exstatic]

Hardy with some clutch tanking, calling time out right before Sexton made the game winner with 1.6 seconds on the clock :lol


https://youtu.be/bGXmGMtXSsk?si=MCSo1ad6XQMPy1UN

Jazz are getting clowned for this. Will appeared to give the go ahead off the defensive rebound, then ran all the way to mid court in a frantic attempt to stop the drive play for the win.

[John B]

Jazz are getting clowned for this. Will appeared to give the go ahead off the defensive rebound, then ran all the way to mid court in a frantic attempt to stop the drive play for the win.

That erased LeBron’s missed dagger :lol attempt

[CGD]

Hardy with some clutch tanking, calling time out right before Sexton made the game winner with 1.6 seconds on the clock :lol


https://youtu.be/bGXmGMtXSsk?si=MCSo1ad6XQMPy1UN

Hall of fame tanking right there

[scott]

Hardy with some clutch tanking, calling time out right before Sexton made the game winner with 1.6 seconds on the clock :lol


https://youtu.be/bGXmGMtXSsk?si=MCSo1ad6XQMPy1UN

::Camera zooms into Jazz huddle as Will Hardy draws up the play for the final shot, but Will's just holding an iPad playing Cooper Flagg highlight videos::

[scott]

DET straight getting cucked by MIL in the battle for that IST Group. What a tease for Pistons fans

[heyheymymy]

man wtf happend to the IND Pacers

[spurs1990]

How the hell did the Spurs lose to those garbage Lakers.. back to back 30pt crushings for them

[Robz4000]

How the hell did the Spurs lose to those garbage Lakers.. back to back 30pt crushings for them

Lakers are their worst matchup tbh. Spurs are also the only team DBust plays like an all star against.

[timtonymanu]

man wtf happend to the IND Pacers

They play in a weak eastern conference

[onechance87]

They play in a weak eastern conference

so they should be winning more not losing.They are just a bad team.

[timtonymanu]

so they should be winning more not losing.They are just a bad team.

Yeah my point is that they were never that good to begin with. Their success last year was inflated by how weak the East really was. They had no business being in the conference finals.

[exstatic]

How the hell did the Spurs lose to those garbage Lakers.. back to back 30pt crushings for them

We were missing Sochan for at least one of those games.

[LeBowen]

https://www.statmuse.com/nba/ask/worst-plus-minus-in-nba

Lebron has 13th worst +/- in the league this season, -132.
Out of those 12 players worse than him, 6 play for the Wizards, 3 for the Pelicans, 2 for the Jazz and 1 for the Blazers.

Lebron has the worst +/- in the league out of any player who's not on blatantly tanking teams.
The only player on teams trying to win who's also in top25 is Julian Strawther from the Nuggets.
Elite company.

[Pauleta14]

man wtf happend to the IND Pacers

Halliburton conned them

[Pauleta14]

How the hell did the Spurs lose to those garbage Lakers.. back to back 30pt crushings for them

It pisses me off so much tbh, but it also should give us some perspective regarding our true level.

We don't win games easily and we have a cheat code that, indeed struggles at times, but also hide many deficiencies.

The whole league is messed up and it seems that machups become more important

[LeBowen]

The whole league is messed up and it seems that machups become more important

It's always been like that.
AD is probably the worst matchup for Wemby and we had noone to match up with Lebron because Jeremy was out.
With healthy Jeremy and Devin (had minutes restriction), we probably beat them at least once.

We'll have an opportunity to right that wrong in about a month when we play two games in LA.

[LeBowen]

Latest Shams report:

-Jimmy and the Heat are ready to part ways, he wouldn't mind going to Mavs, Rockets or Warriors.

-Contenders are interested in Kuzma.

-Nets are receiving offers for Cam Jonhson, DFS and Schroeder.

-Ingram won't extend with the Pelicans.

-Blazers receiving offers for Gran, Simons and Timelord.

-Pacers are trying to find a backup big after both Wiseman and Isaiah Jackson suffered achilles tears.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Latest Shams report:

-Jimmy and the Heat are ready to part ways, he wouldn't mind going to Mavs, Rockets or Warriors.

-Contenders are interested in Kuzma.

-Nets are receiving offers for Cam Jonhson, DFS and Schroeder.

-Ingram won't extend with the Pelicans.

-Blazers receiving offers for Gran, Simons and Timelord.

-Pacers are trying to find a backup big after both Wiseman and Isaiah Jackson suffered achilles tears.

Getting one of Cam Johnson or DFS would be a great help for the Spurs. If they can interest Sean Marks with one of the Minny/ Kings picks/swaps plus change (Branham/ Sidy/ etc).

Pacers might be interested in Zollins but they have nothing useful that they are willing to trade, who will be useful for the Spurs. They will get better value from Timelord, who I bet will be a consideration for them.

Ingram is intriguing as a half-a-season rental. But he seems damaged goods this season and I think the Spurs will avoid him.

If not for Cam/DFS, I think the Spurs should try trading Zollins away and get someone like Timelord who will be a great backup to Wemby. Except for his injury proneness, he offers versatile defence and a rim-running/ blocking option. Tough to get Zollins out of the way. Hard to find a sucker in this market who will jump at Zollins.

[exstatic]

Getting one of Cam Johnson or DFS would be a great help for the Spurs. If they can interest Sean Marks with one of the Minny/ Kings picks/swaps plus change (Branham/ Sidy/ etc).

Pacers might be interested in Zollins but they have nothing useful that they are willing to trade, who will be useful for the Spurs. They will get better value from Timelord, who I bet will be a consideration for them.

Ingram is intriguing as a half-a-season rental. But he seems damaged goods this season and I think the Spurs will avoid him.

If not for Cam/DFS, I think the Spurs should try trading Zollins away and get someone like Timelord who will be a great backup to Wemby. Except for his injury proneness, he offers versatile defence and a rim-running/ blocking option. Tough to get Zollins out of the way. Hard to find a sucker in this market who will jump at Zollins.

Timelord can’t play back to backs. I think that’s a more or less permanent situation at this point. Tough to have your primary back unable to play that many games. He’s also just a china doll in general.

[mo7888]

Getting one of Cam Johnson or DFS would be a great help for the Spurs. If they can interest Sean Marks with one of the Minny/ Kings picks/swaps plus change (Branham/ Sidy/ etc).

Pacers might be interested in Zollins but they have nothing useful that they are willing to trade, who will be useful for the Spurs. They will get better value from Timelord, who I bet will be a consideration for them.

Ingram is intriguing as a half-a-season rental. But he seems damaged goods this season and I think the Spurs will avoid him.

If not for Cam/DFS, I think the Spurs should try trading Zollins away and get someone like Timelord who will be a great backup to Wemby. Except for his injury proneness, he offers versatile defence and a rim-running/ blocking option. Tough to get Zollins out of the way. Hard to find a sucker in this market who will jump at Zollins.

Id like Cam or DFS (depending on price) if I dealt with Indy I'd want walker out of the deal.

[baseline bum]

Wonder if the Spurs could get Cam for the Chicago pick, the Charlotte seconds, and Keldon.

[scott]

Latest Shams report:

-Jimmy and the Heat are ready to part ways, he wouldn't mind going to Mavs, Rockets or Warriors.

-Contenders are interested in Kuzma.

-Nets are receiving offers for Cam Jonhson, DFS and Schroeder.

-Ingram won't extend with the Pelicans.

-Blazers receiving offers for Gran, Simons and Timelord.

-Pacers are trying to find a backup big after both Wiseman and Isaiah Jackson suffered achilles tears.

I've got just the guy for them........

[scott]

https://i.ibb.co/m442Stp/spotrac-nba-trade-machine-1733849981209.png

Supplement with picks as needed.

[LeBowen]

Supplement with picks as needed.

Quite a few would be needed because Indiana would much rather go for JV.


Wonder if the Spurs could get Cam for the Chicago pick, the Charlotte seconds, and Keldon.

Too good to be true.

[scott]

Good story from Spotrac on the opening of Trade Season

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2546/nba-trade-season-unofficially-opens

[mo7888]

Good story from Spotrac on the opening of Trade Season

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2546/nba-trade-season-unofficially-opens

Good find

[Kevin]

Not to change the subject but year 22 LeBron is a fascinating player. His counting stats still suggest a top 15 player averaging 24/7/7 with 49/36/74 shooting splits yet his advanced stats tell a different story.

WS/Per 48 down to 0.94. His career average is 222 and was 159 over the three previous seasons.

His net rating is negative for the first time since his rookie year. Lakers score 112 per one hundred possession with LeBron on the floor while giving up 117 on defense.

His on/off numbers are negative on both sides of the ball, -4.4 on offense and -8.8 on defense equaling -12.8 with Lebron on the floor. LeBron's combined on/off numbers from last season were +9.9. That's over a 20 point swing in one season.

He needs to retire after this season. The wheels are starting to fall off.

[scott]

Not to change the subject but year 22 LeBron is a fascinating player. His counting stats still suggest a top 15 player averaging 24/7/7 with 49/36/74 shooting splits yet his advanced stats tell a different story.

WS/Per 48 down to 0.94. His career average is 222 and was 159 over the three previous seasons.

His net rating is negative for the first time since his rookie year. Lakers score 112 per one hundred possession with LeBron on the floor while giving up 117 on defense.

His on/off numbers are negative on both sides of the ball, -4.4 on offense and -8.8 on defense equaling -12.8 with Lebron on the floor. LeBron's combined on/off numbers from last season were +9.9. That's over a 20 point swing in one season.

He needs to retire after this season. The wheels are starting to fall off.

Vencenie did a pretty deep dive on this on the last Podcast where they discussed potential trades and the conclusion they came to is that the Lakers should trade Lebron (there are obviously complications with that). Worth a listen.

[spurraider21]

obviously there are basketball reasons to trade lebron, but we all know its never happening

[Sugus]

https://i.ibb.co/m442Stp/spotrac-nba-trade-machine-1733849981209.png

Supplement with picks as needed.

Man, I'd be soooo fucking down for this trade it's not even funny.

Valanciunas and Steven Adams are two bigs I've always wanted to see on the Spurs. I'm not sure how much mileage Valanciunas has left at 32 and at this point of his career, but anything from him would be an upgrade over Karate Kid's walking corpse.

I'd give up anywhere from 2 to 5 SRP to make this happen. Gimme the shithouse-bricks backup that Wemby deserves.

[itzsoweezee]

Good story from Spotrac on the opening of Trade Season

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2546/nba-trade-season-unofficially-opens

I’d take a flyer on Timelord for sure. Obviously would not send any valuable assets Portland’s way, but I don’t think he really has much value right now anyway

[Kevin]

One guy I'll be watching this summer is Zion. Perfect buy low candidate who needs a change of scenery. Zion at PF with Wemby at C would be the most athletic twin tower combo the game's ever seen.

Zion's would only be 25 next season and he seems really young and dumb but not a bad guy per say. He needs to grow up and it feels like that will never happen with Pelicans. After this season he has three years left on his deal while getting paid about 40M per year. Cap wise the Spurs can carry him no problem for the next three years. Once they have to pay Wemby and Castle things might get tricky but they can cross that road when they get there.

He's risky for sure and that should be factored into the price but god would it be tempting. Not sure what I would offer. One of Dev or Keldon would probably have to go along with one of Zollins or Barnes expiring's next summer.

[baseline bum]

One guy I'll be watching this summer is Zion. Perfect buy low candidate who needs a change of scenery. Zion at PF with Wemby at C would be the most athletic twin tower combo the game's ever seen.

Zion's would only be 25 next season and he seems really young and dumb but not a bad guy per say. He needs to grow up and it feels like that will never happen with Pelicans. After this season he has three years left on his deal while getting paid about 40M per year. Cap wise the Spurs can carry him no problem for the next three years. Once they have to pay Wemby and Castle things might get tricky but they can cross that road when they get there.

He's risky for sure and that should be factored into the price but god would it be tempting. Not sure what I would offer. One of Dev or Keldon would probably have to go along with one of Zollins or Barnes expiring's next summer.

Hell no. That guy don't GAF and even in a healthy year last year was nowhere near the same explosive player he was early in his career. Don't care if he has LeBron level talent when he has a Deandre Ayton or Shawn Kemp work ethic and especially when he doesn't have that upside he had a few years ago when he was the best athlete in the league by a mile.

[Kevin]

Hell no. That guy don't GAF and even in a healthy year last year was nowhere near the same explosive player he was early in his career. Don't care if he has LeBron level talent when he has a Deandre Ayton or Shawn Kemp work ethic and especially when he doesn't have that upside he had when he was the best athlete in the league by a mile.

But that's what makes him a great buy low player. You could get a Luka/Giannis level talent for the Lauri/Trae Young price.

[baseline bum]

But that's what makes him a great buy low player. You could get a Luka/Giannis level talent for the Lauri/Trae Young price.

He's such a cancer I'd only trade for him at a Zach Collins and Keldon Johnson price, and that's only to salary dump him since the Pelicans have a team option on him this summer.

[ginobilized]

One guy I'll be watching this summer is Zion. Perfect buy low candidate who needs a change of scenery. Zion at PF with Wemby at C would be the most athletic twin tower combo the game's ever seen.

Zion's would only be 25 next season and he seems really young and dumb but not a bad guy per say. He needs to grow up and it feels like that will never happen with Pelicans. After this season he has three years left on his deal while getting paid about 40M per year. Cap wise the Spurs can carry him no problem for the next three years. Once they have to pay Wemby and Castle things might get tricky but they can cross that road when they get there.

He's risky for sure and that should be factored into the price but god would it be tempting. Not sure what I would offer. One of Dev or Keldon would probably have to go along with one of Zollins or Barnes expiring's next summer.

Could he handle the carb-rich tacos, flautas, chimichangas, Gorditas, funnel cakes and flan that are integral parts of SA culture? I'm sure he cannot say no to a puffy taco, but, who can?

[LeBowen]

Could he handle the carb-rich tacos, flautas, chimichangas, Gorditas, funnel cakes and flan that are integral parts of SA culture? I'm sure he cannot say no to a puffy taco, but, who can?


It would be worth it just for Chuck's jokes.

[scott]

Would be hilarious for Zion to become everyone's fat tio always talking about how he used to be an elite athlete

[Mugen]

The Heat trading away Jimmy doesn't bode well for the Hawks pick or the Chicago pick tbh.

[LeBowen]

The Heat trading away Jimmy doesn't bode well for the Hawks pick or the Chicago pick tbh.

They never tank, I assume they would either get useful pieces or use those assets to improve the roster.
If it's the Warriors they're dealing with, Wiggins. I know they can't aggregate salaries, but they'd make it work with other teams involved.

[LeBowen]

Pacers got Thomas Bryant.

[Robz4000]

Pacers got Thomas Bryant.

Didn't even know he was still in the league tbh.

[scott]

Didn't even know he was still in the league tbh.

Looks like it only costs the Pacers some SRP swaps, so he might not be in the league too much longer.

I’ll always remember this dude from his facial expressions in one of Wemby’s first preseason games. Dude had a front row seat to the future and was not disappointed.

[Strategic]

Lakers suck! Lol

[ambchang]

Pacers got Thomas Bryant.

The best bryant in nba history.

[tonight...you]

The best bryant in nba history.
Followed closely by Mark Bryant, the 2nd best Bryant in NBA History.

[Strategic]

Looking for the rockets to bully their way past the thunder tonight. Still not completely convinced that the thunder are built for the physicality. Am I wrong?

[Mr. Body]

Looking for the rockets to bully their way past the thunder tonight. Still not completely convinced that the thunder are built for the physicality. Am I wrong?

They got roughed up by Dallas in the POs last year. Hartenstein was a fantastic pickup but they can get bullied, potentially.

[lefty20]

They got roughed up by Dallas in the POs last year. Hartenstein was a fantastic pickup but they can get bullied, potentially.

They lost to the Mavs mostly because of their 3pt shooters disappearing together. And SGA making a couple crucial errors in the clutch.

A healthy OKC team doesn't have any glaring weakness this year, tbh.

[Mr. Body]

They lost to the Mavs mostly because of their 3pt shooters disappearing together. And SGA making a couple crucial errors in the clutch.

A healthy OKC team doesn't have any glaring weakness this year, tbh.

I pretty much disagree. Dallas brutalized OKC. They were knocking them all over the place, even with Chet. There were two massive problems the Thunder showed in that series, which imo wasn't really that close despite the record. Only Dort getting to foul Doncic constantly kept them in things.

OKC was getting roughhoused by Lively and Gafford and others. They also get roughed up by players like Anthony Davis. Their other problem is they have no capable self-creator other than SGA.

[lefty20]

I pretty much disagree. Dallas brutalized OKC. They were knocking them all over the place, even with Chet. There were two massive problems the Thunder showed in that series, which imo wasn't really that close despite the record. Only Dort getting to foul Doncic constantly kept them in things.

OKC was getting roughhoused by Lively and Gafford and others. They also get roughed up by players like Anthony Davis. Their other problem is they have no capable self-creator other than SGA.

Sure, OKC may have been knocked down a couple times.

Doesn't change the fact that they were bricking wide open 3s. Both teams averaged 106 pt/g.

Mavs shot 39.7% from 3.

OKC shot 33.5% from 3.

I think the shooting was a biggest difference maker. I'm not sure how this is even debatable bro.

[Mr. Body]

Sure, OKC may have been knocked down a couple times.

Doesn't change the fact that they were bricking wide open 3s. Both teams averaged 106 pt/g.

Mavs shot 39.7% from 3.

OKC shot 33.5% from 3.

I think the shooting was a biggest difference maker. I'm not sure how this is even debatable bro.

Fine. They also missed shots. They got roughed up and couldn't take it. This affected their shooting. Happy now or what?

[heyheymymy]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/42970182/sources-warriors-acquiring-dennis-schroder-nets

The Golden State Warriors have agreed on a deal to acquire Brooklyn Nets point guard Dennis Schroder for De'Anthony Melton, sources told ESPN on Saturday.

The Warriors are also receiving one second-round pick from the Nets and sending three second-round picks to Brooklyn in the deal, sources said.

[Strategic]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/42970182/sources-warriors-acquiring-dennis-schroder-nets

The Golden State Warriors have agreed on a deal to acquire Brooklyn Nets point guard Dennis Schroder for De'Anthony Melton, sources told ESPN on Saturday.

The Warriors are also receiving one second-round pick from the Nets and sending three second-round picks to Brooklyn in the deal, sources said. Damn Schröder working on about his eighth team and only 31 years old.

[The Truth #6]

Homeless man's CP3?

[mudyez]

If he ever gets a CP3 like ball, it will have like 500 players he assisted to on it...and not because he has so many assists.

He has the highest time of posession of any player in the league. Thats not the way GS plays. Brooklyn basically got FIBA Dennis. GS may try to make the second unit work like that, but I'm dubious that will make the team better.

[John B]

Dennis Shroeder to the Warriors, Nets received 2026 and 2028 SRP

[Strategic]

Wondering what kind of heroic effort Giannis will come up with tonight.

[itzsoweezee]

Giannis is amazing. He’s the mvp this year — Shaq-like on offense and nearly wemby-like on defense.

[John B]

Thanasses looking in wishing he’s still with the team:lol But he’s probably get that 500k anyways :lol:lol

[R. DeMurre]

Giannis reminded everyone of how great he is tonight.

[Strategic]

Bucks looking pretty good. Just afraid they gonna need more help to have a chance against the Celtics. No way Boston doesn’t get the ref’s better discretion.

[gilmor2002]

Bucks looking pretty good. Just afraid they gonna need more help to have a chance against the Celtics. No way Boston doesn’t get the ref’s better discretion.

Celtics will beat Bucks in 7 games. No contest.

[Mr. Body]

Celtics will beat Bucks in 7 games. No contest.

A seven game series is literally a contest.

[spursistan]

Blazers up 98-82 on Nuggets :lol

Denver Front Office should be tried for war crimes for what they have done with one of the highest player peaks in NBA History..

[spursistan]

Remember when Scoot Henderson was thought to be like a consolation prize for not getting Wemby pre-2023 lottery.. Some even went to say that was an 1-a/1-b draft :lol

[spursistan]

Nuggets should just go all in for a jimmy butler win-now type of move. Really cant keep wasting Jokic prime like this ..Everyone (including Murray + multiple FRP) should be on the table

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Nuggets should just go all in for a jimmy butler win-now type of move. Really cant keep wasting Jokic prime like this ..Everyone (including Murray + multiple FRP) should be on the table

They can’t trade Murray and Gordon because they signed their extensions late. Their only chance is using MPJ but they also don’t have the picks to trade.

[lefty]

:lol Warriors

:lol Steph

[timtonymanu]

Remember when Scoot Henderson was thought to be like a consolation prize for not getting Wemby pre-2023 lottery.. Some even went to say that was an 1-a/1-b draft :lol

Or the fact that amen Thompson was their guy if they couldn’t get Wemby. None of these guys were comparable to Wemby :lol.

[Mal]

Remember when Scoot Henderson was thought to be like a consolation prize for not getting Wemby pre-2023 lottery.. Some even went to say that was an 1-a/1-b draft :lol

There were mocks of Scoot going 1st OA in that draft after Spurs won lottery

[itzsoweezee]

Blazers up 98-82 on Nuggets :lol

Denver Front Office should be tried for war crimes for what they have done with one of the highest player peaks in NBA History..

Cheap ass owner deserves the blame. I’m sure the front office wouldn’t let quality vets walk if they weren’t specifically instructed to be cheapskates. Kronke shouldn’t be allowed to own an nba team. Cheap ass

[scott]

Or the fact that amen Thompson was their guy if they couldn’t get Wemby. None of these guys were comparable to Wemby :lol.

Amen has been really really really good this year for HOU. A Spurs writer recently reported that he has it on good knowledge that the Spurs would have taken Miller at #2, but Amen after that, which is actually a pretty good reflection on the scouting department.

[Strategic]

Suns playing like shit. If the Pistons can keep their heads and win one for our cause.

[timtonymanu]

Phoenix loses. Spurs move up to 9th.

[spursistan]

Bud lowkey disappointing as a Suns HC so far. I know the roster is flawed and kd is old is often out injured, but still i thought he would kill it in the regular season as per usual..

Also Brent Barry jumping ship from the Wemby-era Spurs to that grim situation is quite a choice..

[timtonymanu]

Bud lowkey disappointing as a Suns HC so far. I know the roster is flawed and kd is old is often out injured, but still i thought he would kill it in the regular season as per usual..

Also Brent Barry jumping ship from the Wemby-era Spurs to that grim situation is quite a choice..

They have so little depth outside their big 3. It was the case last year too. Tyus Jones is a good player but he has no business being a top 3 option on a real contending team.

[lefty20]

1870969883045044626

League might create a 3rd Apron for OKC once they max J-Dub and Chet. They really needs to Chip by 2026/2027 season.

[DAF86]

1870889558415663546

[100%duncan]

1870889558415663546

Its funny to see Americans on Twitter get jebaited by this

[DAF86]

Its funny to see Americans on Twitter get jebaited by this

:lol

[spursistan]

Clippers really shouldn't be this good.. 17-13 with a pretty tough schedule and zero logged minutes from Kawhi..Basically an over hill Harden and bunch role players.Ty Lue has done a fantastic job

[onechance87]

jeez whats going on with the suns.They about to make rockets a power house the next few years.Rockets gamble paying off big time fo them.

[spursparker9]

For kobe fans


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1COs2wueRA

[Pauleta14]

Clippers really shouldn't be this good.. 17-13 with a pretty tough schedule and zero logged minutes from Kawhi..Basically an over hill Harden and bunch role players.Ty Lue has done a fantastic job

I'm really not surprised tbh bc of their coach.

I recall PG13 saying in a podcast that what Lue is asking is exhausting and I wouldn't be surprised it played a role in him leaving.

The same way I wasn't surprised by the rockettes last season and this one bc a team always ends up at the image of their coach and a defensive minded one will always get a lot of wins just by not "beating themselves" and make the opponent fail more than win by their talent.

Not to digress but it's the main reason I'm not a fan of giving the keys to Mitch who has too much to learn/live before becoming elite.

[Mr. Body]

Sixers powering themselves out of the basement. May actually work... if they're healthy. They're three wins out of the play-in with (strangely) three games in hand and only four games out of the playoffs entirely. Should be able to leap over the Nets, Pistons, probably Bulls, maybe Pacers and Heat. Magic have so many injuries.

Impacts whether the Hawks drop or Bulls convey, also whether Thunder get a good pick from them.

[Mr. Body]

Make that two games in hand. Philly should easily make the play-ins if they retain form.

[lefty]

https://x.com/msjnba/status/1872003081875108047

[Mr. Body]

https://x.com/msjnba/status/1872003081875108047

Yeah. Disney is fucking trash. ESPN is fucking trash.

[Em-City]

Jimmy Butler wants out ... Now I know the lack of shooting isn't a good fit with our Castle/sochan problem as well as the overall 3pt% but you know he'll compete on both ends

[scott]

Turns out Steph Curry is still Steph Curry. Pretty fantastic ending in the LAL v GSW game

[scott]

Max Christie with some Devin Vassell level defense on the 3 to let Steph tie it up, LOL.

[scott]

Austin Reeves delivers the game winner. Party time in Arkansas.

[Mr. Body]

How do you let Austin Reaves drive on you when he needs a bucket? Sheesh.

[scott]

https://x.com/msjnba/status/1872003081875108047

Great games all day today.

[exstatic]

I shut off the Spurs game during half time. Flat refuse to watch Screamin’ A.

[Mr. Body]

Charlotte is just garbage. And they're healthy. Worse than last year.

[LeBowen]

Always rated Jevon Carter.

[spurraider21]

How do you let Austin Reaves drive on you when he needs a bucket? Sheesh.
thats mister arkansas dreamboat to you

[lefty]

Great games all day today.
I couldn’t watch any of them :cry

[spurraider21]

herro is having such a good season

[spursparker9]

Charlotte is just garbage. And they're healthy. Worse than last year.

:lol Charlotte is 1 of the team that you know will never win a title in the next 500 years

[Em-City]

Bulls choked that big lead against the Hawks and that's probably the worst outcome for our ping pong balls

[onechance87]

Bulls choked that big lead against the Hawks and that's probably the worst outcome for our ping pong balls

yup not good

[Robz4000]

Doncic out at least a month.

[spursistan]

Doncic out at least a month.
Prolly out until after the All-Star break. They have held up well without him this season (6-2).. He's not getting the MVP or ALL-NBA anyway, might as well prioritize health for the post-season although some early signs his body is breaking down because he is not in good shape and is heavily stressing those lower joints/muscles

[heyheymymy]

Kawhi announces on IG he's coming back soon

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1hnk9kv/kawhi_announces_on_ig_hes_coming_back_soon/

[exstatic]

Kawhi announces on IG he's coming back soon

https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/1hnk9kv/kawhi_announces_on_ig_hes_coming_back_soon/

lol

[heyheymymy]

lol

[heyheymymy]

tell me you're coming back in a box score not a commercial lol

[itzsoweezee]

Mike Brown got fired? That franchise is a dumpster fire.

[exstatic]

Mike Brown got fired? That franchise is a dumpster fire.

Particularly sad since it looked like they had turned a corner two seasons ago. They should have passed on DD, and shopped for a couple of defensive oriented players.

[spursistan]

Suns lost at home to Dallas without doncic :lol + Warriors losing mid 3rd vs Clippers

Spurs should be back to 9th seed by the end of the night with a huge game vs Wolves coming up. Time to make a serious push for the play-in..

[R. DeMurre]

Particularly sad since it looked like they had turned a corner two seasons ago. They should have passed on DD, and shopped for a couple of defensive oriented players.


Seriously... how many teams are going to be impact/advanced stats deniers, and continue to make these kinds of costly mistakes? Especially now that DD is 35 years old. His career BPM is 0.9 and his teams have been better with him off the floor in 13 out of his 16 seasons. At a certain point, you almost have to be a flat-earther level thinker to really believe he's going to have a significant net positive effect on a team's success.

[spursistan]

8- Wolves (16-14)
9- Spurs (16-15)
10- Suns (15-15)
11- Warriors (15-15)

UP Next: PHX @ Warriors (SAT), Spurs @ Wolves (SUN)

Little play-in preview on the weekend. Would be a massive W for us (clinches at least a tie with Minny on the season series)

[Strategic]

Hoping the Pistons can extend their win streak against the Nuggets tonight. Murray’s listed as a GTD, so maybe.

[Strategic]

DeAndre Jordan getting more minutes than Bassey.