Around the League / Regular Season Thread (Upstairs Version)

[Mitch Cumsteen]

Theis doesn't move the needle enough for the Spurs to use the assets. Makes sense for a team gearing up for a deep playoff run.

OKC GOT assets from the Pels to take him so they could get under the tax. I guess it remains to be seen what OKC sent out, but I would bet it's some SRP that is so heavily protected that it never conveys.

[ChumpDumper]

OKC GOT assets from the Pels to take him so they could get under the tax. I guess it remains to be seen what OKC sent out, but I would bet it's some SRP that is so heavily protected that it never conveys.

Would still be a nothingburger for the Spurs.

[LeBowen]

This really feels like a hostage situation with KD/Jimmy being in focus and everyone else waiting what's going to happen, with many fringe deals being on hold.

[BatManu20]

Lol

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[Larry O]

Per Shams, KD is rejecting a reunion with the Dubs, LOL!

[scott]

Warriors stuck with their dick in their hands. You love to see it.

[LeBowen]

KD is doing them a favor, tbh.
But they'll still be retarded enough to waste every asset they have in order to be a first round exit this and the next season.
Back to one of the worst franchises in the league when Curry retires. Tech bros surely won't fill a tanking team's arena.

[BatManu20]

Yea never-mind, not happening. PHX isn’t going to fuck KD over and send him there if he doesn’t want to go back, which he reportedly doesn’t. Will be interesting to see how this all plays out in the coming hours. Jimmy might be stuck in Miami for a while.


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[scott]

Never in a million years would I have predicted that the league would be COMPLETELY shaken up this deadline without Jimmy or Zion moving. Wild.

[Larry O]

Man, it would be so funny that at the end of the Thursday, both KD and Butler don't get traded after all of their trade demands was nothing but blowing smoke, and they stand
pat, LOL!

[RC_Drunkford]

all these idiotic GMs make Brian Wright look like a genius :lol

[Larry O]

LOL, the Bulls are holding out Zollins and Trey Jones for tonight's game for a possible trade.

[RC_Drunkford]

Breaking: Zollins and Tre to the Warriors for 2 second round picks!!!

[BatManu20]

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[RC_Drunkford]

if Pat Riley trades Jimmy to Phoenix for KD that would be hilarious :lol

[Ice009]

Again, why the fuck do the Suns want that? lol.

KD, always walking in someone else's shoes if he ends up in Miami. How about being a trend setter. Get a young team over the line instead of teams that have already been there.

[Light]

Again, why the fuck do the Suns want that? lol.

KD, always walking in someone else's shoes if he ends up in Miami. How about being a trend setter. Get a young team over the line instead of teams that have already been there.

He tried that in Brooklyn

[Larry O]

Jericho Sims of the Knicks (former Longhorn), is on the trading block, and the Fakers could target him, SMH.

[spursistan]

KD shuts down the Warriors rumors. Dude would have zero dignity and self-respect to return there after the "we won before and after you'' taunt. If were him I would go to Houston or just get out of the West for Miami in a Butler swap if Matt Ishbia dumb ass wants that.

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1887232362276098258

[DPG21920]

Warriors stuck with their dick in their hands. You love to see it.

Wish the lakers were in same boat. Hate that they got gifted a star like that

[DPG21920]

What is the point of trading KD for Jimmy if you are Suns lol? I mean I guess if Jimmy says he will extend and KD says he wont? But on the floor I fail to see how this helps especially with how Beal/Jimmy overlap

[Larry O]

Uh oh! The Hawks are interested in BI! This could affect our ATL pick, if he's traded there, and they really start winning!

[mo7888]

Uh oh! The Hawks are interested in BI! This could affect our ATL pick, if he's traded there, and they really start winning!

I shudder to think of it. Atl trading for an oft injured BI could be devastating..

[DPG21920]

Uh oh! The Hawks are interested in BI! This could affect our ATL pick, if he's traded there, and they really start winning!

Hopefully the Hawks give up one of their few remaining firsts to get Ingram who can walk in the off season. And if they keep Ingram that means Hunter/JJ/Risacher get pushed out some and Trae is still due a massive extension soon.

So the more short term assets they burn the better IMO. Now if they get him for nothing that would be annoying lol.

[NASpurs]

Those mf'ers will really do anything to try and make sure that pick they gave us sucks huh. Jokes on them, that franchise is cursed and we'll probably end up with a top five pick.

[LeBowen]

KD does make sense for Miami.
As per usual, they're a well-coached team that needs firepower.
They'd probably offer Jimmy, one of Jaquez/Jovic and a FRP for KD.

Considering how they make everyone suffer in the playoffs, with KD they'd have a chance to make ECF.

[spursistan]

Wish the lakers were in same boat. Hate that they got gifted a star like that
Yea, it is Lakers Exceptionalism and nothing else. Not even the Celtics are on that pedestal and that's why I never bought the idea of the Warriors becoming another pet/brand franchise for the NBA. Post-Curry Golden State will be more post-Jordan Chicago than another Lakers. I would argue the Clippers with Ballmer's deep pockets will give them a run for their money and relevancy in Cali alone..

[scott]

My only thought on why PHX would consider KD for Butler is if they are trying to play some 4D chess, telling Jimmy they'll give him a new deal if he opts out, but then after he opts out they say "SIKE!" and then they shave off that extra year of KD's deal.

Otherwise... it makes as close to no sense as possible.

[LeBowen]

Btw, everyone already forgot Suns traded unprotected 20131 FRP for Ainge's 3 shitty FRPs. :lmao
Then people wonder how are some teams always bad.

[Ice009]

He tried that in Brooklyn

Well he did team up with Kyrie, then they got James Harden and tried to form a super team there. I wouldn't say he went there trying to lead a young team. Houston might be a good spot for him to help lead a young team to a ring.

[Mr. Body]

Well he did team up with Kyrie, then they got James Harden and tried to form a super team there. I wouldn't say he went there trying to lead a young team. Houston might be a good spot for him to help lead a young team to a ring.

Kevin Durant couldn't lead a bunch of ducks into a pond.

[RC_Drunkford]

I hope the Raptors get Ingram. There are reports that they want him

[DPG21920]

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[scott]

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Into this for sure. This would especially help our 25 pick! Caris is not bad by any means, but Hunter has been great this year. Honestly he'd fit really well here if not for his little star down stunt in San Antonio. I hope ATL does this and then whiffs on BI

[RC_Drunkford]

keep in mind the Hawks are also trying to move Capela and Bogdanovic. They could keep coming out of the trade deadline worse than before.

[scott]

keep in mind the Hawks are also trying to move Capela and Bogdanovic. They could keep coming out of the trade deadline worse than before.

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[Maddog]

keep in mind the Hawks are also trying to move Capela and Bogdanovic. They could keep coming out of the trade deadline worse than before.

I find that interesting
In some ways it makes sense. While they have some nice relatively young pieces-they're not a contender and neither of those are in their long term plans
It helps the Spurs

[spursistan]

Into this for sure. This would especially help our 25 pick! Caris is not bad by any means, but Hunter has been great this year. Honestly he'd fit really well here if not for his little star down stunt in San Antonio. I hope ATL does this and then whiffs on BI
Same here :lol. I'm all in on the Hawks '25 pick. Blazers, Philly and even Chicago have a chance to jump them up if they keep sliding like this. It is why tonight game is huge. Need to keep their bad vibes going after they squeaked out a win vs Detroit..

[TD 21]

What is the point of trading KD for Jimmy if you are Suns lol? I mean I guess if Jimmy says he will extend and KD says he wont? But on the floor I fail to see how this helps especially with how Beal/Jimmy overlap

According to Windhorst, the thinking would be the Suns would get decent youth + draft capital in the exchange to remain "competitive" while replacing a small portion of what they've sent out in recent years.

[spurraider21]

well they did have some SRPs to spare...

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[spurraider21]

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[BatManu20]

Sidy getting passed around like a blunt

[LeBowen]

Delete before scott sees it.

Lithuanian towers.

[spurraider21]

Sidy getting passed around like a blunt
joining Sarr and Coulibably :lol

if he actually becomes something thats a fun group of athletes

[Robz4000]

:lol there goes that dream

[LeBowen]

Best possible landing spot for Sidy, tbh.
He'll surely get some minutes.

[scott]

You... in all the Fox talk and reading the Kings subreddit, I actually came to kind of like the Kings. Maybe it's small markets sticking together. Their fans deserve better. So... if we couldn't land Big Daddy, I like SAC as a landing spot for him.

Unfortunately, now in addition to the Kings being motivated to beat us because of Fox, they'll also have notorious Spur-killer Jonas on their team. At least we won't have to play him in a few nights.

[mo7888]

Im happy for Sidy... he'll be able to stay in the league longer.

[Leetonidas]

Spurs are not serious about finding a backup C smh

[BatManu20]

Sidy 3 hours ago was talking about how he's going to do his best win the Kings some games lol.

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[Davidicus]

2 SRPs for JV? We couldnt have beat that?

[Pauleta14]

Is there a personnal relationship between butler and the Suns's owner?

I don't get his obsession to get an old expensive Butler he'll have to extend to the point of getting rid of Durant...

What am I missing?

[LeBowen]

Is there a personnal relationship between butler and the Suns's owner?

I don't get his obsession to get an old expensive Butler he'll have to extend to the point of getting rid of Durant...

What am I missing?

Suns are the only team dumb enough to offer him a 150/3 exension. It's that simple.

[Pauleta14]

Suns are the only team dumb enough to offer him a 150/3 exension. It's that simple.

I get it from Butler's side, it's quite simple. I'd do the same haha

I don't understand the Suns's motivations. Why would they do that???

[pad300]

I get it from Butler's side, it's quite simple. I'd do the same haha

I don't understand the Suns's motivations. Why would they do that???

PHX doesn't want to trade Durant for Jimmy; their idea is to trade Beal for Jimmy... MIA though wants Durant

[mo7888]

I get it from Butler's side, it's quite simple. I'd do the same haha

I don't understand the Suns's motivations. Why would they do that???

Surely Miami would send a couple more assets in the deal...

[objective]

Valanciunas should be a Spur!

B.Wright is hereby demoted again to B.Wrong

Get back to work B.Wrong!

[Dex]

2 SRPs for JV? We couldnt have beat that?

Seriously....Jonas ain't a world beater but basically fits what we need for backup C

[Ice009]

I wanted to get him too. I wonder what the Spurs are looking at. They definitely need a backup center.

[lefty]

:lmao KD rejected Dray

As Golden State pursues Phoenix's Kevin Durant, the two-time Warriors NBA Finals MVP has no desire in a reunion and does not want to go back. Reporting for NBA Today:

[Mal]

I doubt Spurs would make any move, given who went where for what

[scott]

I would have liked Jonas too, but he's got two years left after this one and he's already showing some decline. I'm not too miffed about it.

[Pauleta14]

PHX doesn't want to trade Durant for Jimmy; their idea is to trade Beal for Jimmy... MIA though wants Durant

Apparently, Suns are entertaining this option now that Durant said no to GW... Doesn't make any sense, I thought the idea of having Butler was to give help to... Durant! "lol"


Surely Miami would send a couple more assets in the deal...

That's a given but basketball wise the Suns'roster construction would make even less sense than now

If the idea is to blow it up bc the Durant exp failed, then why not go for young players instead than a tired old uber expensive Butler?

My initial question regarding eventual relationship between Butler and Suns' owner was because it's to me the only rational explanation. It's a buddy move the same way Nico has done in Dallas the last 2 seasons. (Kyrie PJ or AD are his buddies)

[mo7888]

Apparently, Suns are entertaining this option now that Durant said no to GW... Doesn't make any sense, I thought the idea of having Butler was to give help to... Durant! "lol"



That's a given but basketball wise the Suns'roster construction would make even less sense than now

If the idea is to blow it up bc the Durant exp failed, then why not go for young players instead than a tired old uber expensive Butler?

My initial question regarding eventual relationship between Butler and Suns' owner was because it's to me the only rational explanation. It's a buddy move the same way Nico has done in Dallas the last 2 seasons. (Kyrie PJ or AD are his buddies)

I'm not looking for rationality here because I can't see any reason to get Butler for Durant. The closest thing I can come up with is that, for some reason, they don't want to blow it up now and want to quasi compete the rest of the season and then blow it up. At that point, they don't extend Butler and make him choose between playing on an ending contract or opting out, then trade Booker for all their pick plus a young player and let Beal lead the tank.

[Pauleta14]

I'd take any Big rn, so i'm not against having Jonas. but does he fit the profile?

He seems a more short term fix for a contending team to me, PATFO probably would rather use their draft capital for the real long term deal, maybe younger and more mobile

Jonas could also have been pushing specifically for SAC bc there's his Lithuanian teammate over there

[Pauleta14]

I'm not looking for rationality here because I can't see any reason to get Butler for Durant. The closest thing I can come up with is that, for some reason, they don't want to blow it up now and want to quasi compete the rest of the season and then blow it up. At that point the don't extend Butler and make him choose between playing on an ending contract or opting out, then trade Booker for all their pick plus a young player and let Beal lead the tank.

Good to see I'm not the only one confused...

If I were them I'd start straight with your last point. Just get rid of KD Booker for bunch of 1RPs and young players with potentials and let Beal stat pad while tanking, who knows, u could even get something out of him in a year

[heyheymymy]

I truly wish Sidy Cissoko the best. What a down to earth quality individual and I hope he has opportunity in WAS.

Good luck Sidy in health and success. Thank you for your time with SA.

[mo7888]

Good to see I'm not the only one confused...

If I were them I'd start straight with your last point. Just get rid of KD Booker for bunch of 1RPs and young players with potentials and let Beal stat pad while tanking, who knows, u could even get something out of him in a year

I don't think they can find a good FRP for KD given his age, so if they got Pelle out of the deal then than a protected pick then at least that's something they can use in the future.

[RC_Drunkford]

with the Center market being dry, let's hope the Lakers trade for Zach Collins :lol

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[scott]

with the Center market being dry, let's hope the Lakers trade for Zach Collins :lol

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The GM woke up, read the papers and said "I traded Lavine for what?!?!? HOLY SHIT should have laid off the Malort last night"

[LeBowen]

The GM woke up, read the papers and said "I traded Lavine for what?!?!? HOLY SHIT should have laid off the Malort last night"

They traded DDR, Lavine, Caruso and Markkanen for one FRP...their own '25. :lol

[timtonymanu]

Maybe the spurs get grab someone in the buyout market. Seems like it was Jonas or bust, but like scott said, I’m kinda meh on him.

[baseline bum]

I'm not looking for rationality here because I can't see any reason to get Butler for Durant. The closest thing I can come up with is that, for some reason, they don't want to blow it up now and want to quasi compete the rest of the season and then blow it up. At that point, they don't extend Butler and make him choose between playing on an ending contract or opting out, then trade Booker for all their pick plus a young player and let Beal lead the tank.

Only thing that makes any sense is they know they'll lose Durant after next season when his contract is up while they can extend Butler for three seasons. I'd still rather keep Durant and trade him next summer or next trade deadline and get something better than washed up Jimmy Butler on a 35% max deal for three years though.

[mo7888]

Only thing that makes any sense is they know they'll lose Durant after next season when his contract is up while they can extend Butler for three seasons. I'd still rather keep Durant and trade him next summer or next trade deadline and get something better than washed up Jimmy Butler on a 35% max deal for three years though.

I'd keep him too..

[spurraider21]

Only thing that makes any sense is they know they'll lose Durant after next season when his contract is up while they can extend Butler for three seasons. I'd still rather keep Durant and trade him next summer or next trade deadline and get something better than washed up Jimmy Butler on a 35% max deal for three years though.
durant is a better player, better teammate, less of a headache, and remarkably, less injury prone these days. his game will also continue to age better.

if they were really going to swap them, they need to demand some other significant assets from miami to make it worth their while

[100%duncan]

I'd take any back-up C right now. Damn

[scott]

WAS is waiving Sidy. Might be back to Europe for him, tbh. When can we legally bring him back?

[objective]

WAS is waiving Sidy. Might be back to Europe for him, tbh. When can we legally bring him back?

I think immediately? Because he was traded to someone else in-between or is there a calendar limit?

[poopbox]

Damn it really hurts we could have had Big Daddy V for just some second rounders. We would be set at Center for the next 3 years.

[scott]

I think immediately? Because he was traded to someone else in-between or is there a calendar limit?

That's what I immediately thought, but I'm not sure... will double check later.

[LeBowen]

[Charania] The Miami Heat are finalizing a deal to send Jimmy Butler to the Golden State Warriors for Andrew Wiggins, Dennis Schroder, Kyle Anderson and a protected first-round pick, sources tell ESPN.

[cutewizard]

Butler traded to the Warriors

[LeBowen]

The best analogy for this would be family members of a patient in vegetative state selling everything to keep the machines going on a bit longer even though it will make no difference whatsoever.

[Maddog]

The best analogy for this would be family members of a patient in vegetative state selling everything to keep the machines going on a bit longer even though it will make no difference whatsoever.

ouch
that's rough

but so true

[Mr. Body]

Do the Warriors actually pay him? I wouldn't.

[LeBowen]

[Charania] New Golden State Warriors star Jimmy Butler has agreed to a new two-year, $121 million extension with the franchise through 2026-27, sources tell me and @WindhorstESPN. Butler is declining his 2025-26 player option for this new $121M deal.


:lmao :lmao
Geriatric State Warriors

[Seventyniner]

:lmao :lmao
Geriatric State Warriors

Rage, rage against the dying of the light (years).

[spursistan]

Warriors got fleeced man :lol

[quentin_compson]

Light years ahead indeed ...

[scott]

WTF are the Warriors doing?

But also WTF are the Heat doing? Just added a bunch of long term salary to their books. I would have just kept Jimmy and let him opt out and walk.

[Larry O]

Kyle Big Head Anderson to Toronto, LOL.

[LeBowen]

WTF are the Warriors doing?

But also WTF are the Heat doing? Just added a bunch of long term salary to their books. I would have just kept Jimmy and let him opt out and walk.

They have Ainge to take care of garbage.
It's just Wiggins and PJ Tucker (yes, he's still out there) to the Heat.
They get '25 GSW FRP, top10 protected in '25 and '26.

[lefty]

:lmao

Dennis Schroder cried about it being slave trading and got shipped to Utah




:lmao

[spursistan]

36 yo Butler on a 60 millions per-year deal :rollin

https://x.com/ShamsCharania/status/1887311663021301940

[timtonymanu]

Schroeder traded again lol.

:cry modern day slavery

[Pauleta14]

I don't think they can find a good FRP for KD given his age, so if they got Pelle out of the deal then than a protected pick then at least that's something they can use in the future.

KD also fills up seats, he still has a huge value imo

anyways we'll see

[scott]

JIMMY BUTLER @ $60MM/yr??!?!?!?!?!? LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

[spurraider21]

disappointing. woulda been the perfect backup PG for this club. adjusting for cap inflation, thats cheaper than Tre's last contract. very nice for chicago... though i'd still explore trading for him down the line. maybe a year from now

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[Larry O]

Looks like BI is on the move?

[lefty]

Warriors getting fleeced after being rejected by KD is satisfying

[Mr. Body]

Desperation is a stinky cologne.

[NASpurs]

:lmao

Dennis Schroder cried about it being slave trading and got shipped to Utah




:lmao

:lol the village hooker gets traded again

[NASpurs]

So Schroeder gets to go to Utah instead of Miami :lol

[scott]

So Schroeder gets to go to Utah instead of Miami :lol

Utah heard something about slavery and said "You son of a bitch, I'm in"

[mo7888]

Utah heard something about slavery and said "You son of a bitch, I'm in"

:rollin

[NASpurs]

Utah heard something about slavery and said "You son of a bitch, I'm in"

:lol

[baseline bum]

Feels like the Warriors sold high on Wiggins if they get a Butler who gives a shit, which he probably does with a $121 million contract. I like the move for them. They didn't have to mortgage their future to significantly improve now and it's only a two year deal.

[timtonymanu]

Utah heard something about slavery and said "You son of a bitch, I'm in"

Your zingers make me laugh out loud when I’m at work, tbh. :lol

[objective]

60 Milly a year for a washed up elderly Butler is sooooo satisfying lol

[timtonymanu]

Warriors getting fleeced after being rejected by KD is satisfying

Light years ahead :lol

[scott]

Your zingers make me laugh out loud when I’m at work, tbh. :lol

Appreciate the support, I'm here all week. Tip your waitresses and bartenders.

[baseline bum]

LOL the video of a fan breaking the Butler trade to the Heat bench


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHh8URt44eE

[100%duncan]

I cant believe Steph's final years are being fucked this badly :lol though they all deserve it for that KD shit

[Rosewood]

Dubs are lightyears ahead.

[mystargtr34]

I don’t think it’s that bad a deal for Warriors. What else were they suppose to do keep Wiggins and those other scrubs and tread .500 this season and waste one of the last 2 or 3 years Steph has an all star calibre player.

The West is pretty wide open this year outside of OKC and they’re unproven in the playoffs.

[lefty]

Utah heard something about slavery and said "You son of a bitch, I'm in"
:lol

[Seventyniner]

Utah heard something about slavery and said "You son of a bitch, I'm in"

God dayum. Early candidate for post of the year.

[Mugen]

Jimmy and Draymond on the same team is gonna feed families tbh

[ace3g]

https://x.com/MikeAScotto/status/1887344564421202292

[CGD]

disappointing. woulda been the perfect backup PG for this club. adjusting for cap inflation, thats cheaper than Tre's last contract. very nice for chicago... though i'd still explore trading for him down the line. maybe a year from now

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Chicago is a damn mess. Who knew they actually wanted their pick back so they could ensure they got the 11th pick?

[mystargtr34]

Jimmy and Draymond on the same team is gonna feed families tbh

I do think there is potential there for an on court fist fight between teammates which would be a first in history I think.

[DAF86]

I cant believe Steph's final years are being fucked this badly :lol though they all deserve it for that KD shit

Lightyears ahead, bro.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1887353832956440817

[vy65]

BI to TOR? Glad it’s not ATL, but dunno if the raps can catch up to the hawks

[DPG21920]

Great. Better than ATL

[spursistan]

oof glad Atlanta whiffed on Ingram.

[scott]

TOR has been on a tear. I think they can catch ATL if they get BI and some health (and BI gets healthy). But that also assumes they keep Jak (which they should).

Grady Dick has had a huge leap this year, fun player.

[spursistan]

TOR has been on a tear. I think they can catch ATL if they get BI and some health (and BI gets healthy). But that also assumes they keep Jak (which they should).

Grady Dick has had a huge leap this year, fun player.
You can also add the Blazers to that. The prospects of that Hawks pick completely changed in our favor in the past couple weeks.. Like a Top 7-8 pick is now a distinct possibility.

[spurraider21]

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[Mr. Body]

...why?

[DAF86]

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To mediocrity and beyond. :lol

Not complaining, though. We need Toronto to finish ahead of Atlanta for years to come.

[Russ]

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Huerter is actually the kind of player the Spurs could use. A 26-year-old 6'7" three-point shooter.

Having a bit of a down year and his bus stop team is looking to trade him.

Could look good on the cheap.

[Degoat]

With the amount of trades already, I wonder if tomorrow won’t be very active before the deadline

[Mr. Body]

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Huerter is actually the kind of player the Spurs could use. A 26-year-old 6'7" three-point shooter.

Having a bit of a down year and his bus stop team is looking to trade him.

Could look good on the cheap.

If only the Spurs had been in a trade involved with him where he could have been routed to them.

[Russ]

If only the Spurs had been in a trade involved with him where he could have been routed to them.

The league moves in mysterious ways . . .

[Dverde]

Chicago trading for Huerter and Zollins while thinking they can offload the contracts the other teams unloaded on you…they are the worst front office if you don’t count Dallas.

[Robz4000]

Lakers got Mark Williams from Charlotte

[mystargtr34]

Damn Mark Williams was not one of the centers I had on my Lakers radar.

They praise a pretty steep price but man if he stays healthy he will be good.

[Mugen]

Surprised Mark Williams is playing again tbh

[Robz4000]

:lol god damn they blew their load on him, no homo

[spursistan]

That's quite an overpay for Mark Williams. Dude is the proper incarnation of "Street Clothes!"

[BatManu20]

Don't think Luka is leaving in 2026 so they should be fine, but if for some reason he did, this trade could end up being disastrous for them tbh.

[Mugen]

Dubs, Kings, and Suns all lose tonight tbh

[spurraider21]

they paid a lot for williams. i mean if you could guarantee his health he's probably worth it. but they didnt get any type of bargain

[Mnky]

Dang they gave up the rest of the Luka trade for Williams. If Williams is healthy, he'll be great for them but man that's a lot for a very iffy player.

[rankingtear]

TOR used to have a good front office. Trading your future for Mark Williams is like trading it for Rob Dillingham.

[spursistan]

Dubs, Kings, and Suns all lose tonight tbh
Jumping up those 3 teams is doable seen there are no further moves left to them to improve. Gotta put together a small winning streak and we will be back in the play-in picture. Spurs still have 34 games to play (most in the league) and are only one game back in the loss column from the 8th seed.

[BacktoBasics]

Don't think Luka is leaving in 2026 so they should be fine, but if for some reason he did, this trade could end up being disastrous for them tbh.

Fair point but they had to make the move. If I’m a lakers fan I’m pretty happy they were able to secure a serviceable center to round out the roster.

I wouldn’t normally say this but I think Bron is capable of working around the strengths of this roster to make it work.

I feel LA is a better team post moves.

[spursistan]

Kings fans already crying about Lavine being a worse player than Fox. Well, duuh :lol

[spurraider21]

That's quite an overpay for Mark Williams. Dude is the proper incarnation of "Street Clothes!"
feels like they paid a lot for sure. but tough to go to a tanking/rebuidling team, telling them i want your very good and promising 23 year old center, and expecting a discount

[spurraider21]

pouring one out for the last kings fan who was holding out hope that the charlotte pick would convey

[timtonymanu]

Kings fans already crying about Lavine being a worse player than Fox. Well, duuh :lol

I can’t believe their GM thought it was a smart idea to have Lavine and Derozan on the same team again because it worked so well the first time

[baseline bum]

pouring one out for the last kings fan who was holding out hope that the charlotte pick would convey

Who was thinking that at 12-34 with lottery protection? :lol

[baseline bum]

I can’t believe their GM thought it was a smart idea to have Lavine and Derozan on the same team again because it worked so well the first time

It did work pretty well briefly, well when they had a PG in Chicago.

[DAF86]

pouring one out for the last kings fan who was holding out hope that the charlotte pick would convey

What bet did you win over exstatic? :lol

[spurraider21]

What bet did you win over exstatic (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=20)? :lol
he thought devonte graham actually had value other than cap relief as a quasi-expiring contract


graham isnt arriving to other teams in a vacuum. he's making over 12 mil. im sure if graham was a free agent, he'd have suitors. i dont think he'd have suitors lining up to pay him 12 mil per year. under his current contract, his real value is as cap relief. under a different contract, would be a different story. nobody was trading for 50 mills, but a competing Nets team had no problem signing him for 2/12

$12M is next to nothing in todays NBA. it’s the 125th ranked salary. Steph makes 4 times as much, and by the end of his contract, he will make 5 times as much.

i'll bet you $100 that graham's next contract earns him less than 12M per year

Signature bet. Loser has to change their sig to read [winners screen name] knows contracts better than I do until the end of the next regular season.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I don't remember this much trade activity during the days before a deadline ever. It's super interesting but the majority of good deals might be behind us already and there'll be only less intriguing roster adjustment type deals now, but still.

I doubt the Spurs are in for a center on a long term contract but with the CBA being as it is a ton of trades require a 3rd and 4th teams in order to complete and I hope the Spurs can plug in somewhere and take a good asset, be it a pick or a player, while facilitating.

[BatManu20]

Doubt it happens because the Nets reportedly want 2 FRP's for him, but Cam Johnson would fit seamlessly on this team and give us some much-needed shooting.

Averaging 19/4/3 on 49/41/90 splits at 8 3PA/per

Turns 29 next month. Has 2 years left on his deal at a pretty friendly $43M over the next 2 years.

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[BatManu20]

Giannis :lol

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[stephen jackson]

Doubt it happens because the Nets reportedly want 2 FRP's for him, but Cam Johnson would fit seamlessly on this team and give us some much-needed shooting.

Averaging 19/4/3 on 49/41/90 splits at 8 3PA/per

Turns 29 next month. Has 2 years left on his deal at a pretty friendly $43M over the next 2 years.

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cam johnson and spurs? i dont get the tweet

[NASpurs]

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[LeBowen]

The Phoenix Suns are trading Jusuf Nurkic and a 2026 first-round pick to the Charlotte Hornets for Cody Martin, Vasilije Micic and a 2026 second-round pick, sources tell ESPN.


Someone put Sons out of their misery.

[Leetonidas]

There goes another backup C

Lol Suns having to cough up a pick to move him. Do they have any picks available for the rest of the decade? :lol

[LeBowen]

There goes another backup C

Lol Suns having to cough up a pick to move him. Do they have any picks available for the rest of the decade? :lol


Jazz receive:


2031 unprotected first-round pick

Suns receive:


2025 least favorable first-round pick (via Cleveland, Minnesota or Utah*)
2027 least favorable first-round pick (via Cleveland, Minnesota or Utah)
2029 least favorable first-round pick (via Cleveland, Minnesota*, or Utah)

* = protected



They have these. :lol
Masterstroke to trade an unprotected FRP for 3 garbage ones. :lmao

[Leetonidas]

They have these. :lol
Masterstroke to trade an unprotected FRP for 3 garbage ones. :lmao

:lmao forgot about that

Lmao suns. Their FO since Ishiba took over has been hilariously bad. The Beal trade was so obviously stupid to everyone else at the time and they completely handcuffed their franchise because of it. That's what their idiot owner gets for trying to immediately buy a title

[buttsR4rebounding]

They have these. :lol
Masterstroke to trade an unprotected FRP for 3 garbage ones. :lmao

That's a trade made by a GM who knows he won't be around in 2031 so he looks at it as getting something for nothing.

[Spursfanfromafar]

I kinda expected the Suns giving up one of their late FRPs to trade Nurkic. Thought maybe we could dump Keldon this way. But hopefully we will get someone more valuable than Nurkic.

[benefactor]

Perk going in dry on Durant on ESPN right now:lol

[spurraider21]

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[itzsoweezee]

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Wow. Good for the Cavs

[BatManu20]

Nice pickup by the Cavs. Caris LeVert was playing like ass this season. Hunter is a major upgrade.

This makes the Hawks worse though. Makes me think they're not done yet.

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[Dex]

Don't think Luka is leaving in 2026 so they should be fine, but if for some reason he did, this trade could end up being disastrous for them tbh.

Honestly, I hope Luka does leave just so this collusion can bite them in the ass. He never asked to be there, and he will certainly have other options on the table...including San Antonio if we can make the money work

[RC_Drunkford]

Everything going according to plan. Raptors land Ingram, Hawks lose Hunter. Good for our picks

[scott]

Hunter to Cavs is great for the ATL pick!

[Dex]

Perk going in dry on Durant on ESPN right now:lol

Perk is a bumbling idiot with superhero syndrome. If I'm Durant, I wouldn't lose a wink of sleep over what that windbag has to say

[LeBowen]

If Hunter can keep shooting 40% from 3pt, Cavs might just get to the finals, tbh.

[spurraider21]

this deal actually put cavs below the tax line and hawks slightly above the tax line. look for the hawks to offload a little salary

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

this deal actually put cavs below the tax line and hawks slightly above the tax line. look for the hawks to offload a little salary

Cody Zeller's contract is getting dumped for sure.

[spurraider21]

Cody Zeller's contract is getting dumped for sure.
or Bogi. or Nance.

[scott]

Cavs honestly got Hunter for cheap. Caris, 3 SRPs and 2026 and 2028 swaps, which are already swapped with UTA. So UTA will get the best of UTA/CLE and ATL will get the second best of UTA/CLE/ATL... which probably means ATL is just keeping it's own pick, tbh.

Atlanta doing Cleveland and Hunter favors.

[objective]

Cavs honestly got Hunter for cheap. Caris, 3 SRPs and 2026 and 2028 swaps, which are already swapped with UTA. So UTA will get the best of UTA/CLE and ATL will get the second best of UTA/CLE/ATL... which probably means ATL is just keeping it's own pick, tbh.

Atlanta doing Cleveland and Hunter favors.

Are the swaps First Rounders? because in 26 they swap with SA, so does that mean they get the 2nd best between them, SA, and CLE?

[scott]

Are the swaps First Rounders? because in 26 they swap with SA, so does that mean they get the 2nd best between them, SA, and CLE?

Good point.

So in 2026, UTA will get the best of UTA/CLE and SA will get the best of SA/ATL. Then ATL will get the best remaining of UTA/CLE/SA/ATL and CLE will get the worst remaining.

[objective]

Kind of a fake swap, Cleveland surely must expect to have a better record than all these teams anyway, even an improved SA shouldn't catch them at least for 26

[spurraider21]

:lol woulda been better if they just kept CP3

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[BatManu20]

Spurs were interest in Trae confirmed.

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[Splits]

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https://media.tenor.com/Jw8I___MCdQAAAAM/matrix-dodge.gif

[mo7888]

Spurs were interest in Trae confirmed.

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We chose wisely....

[BatManu20]

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[LeBowen]

The old get older.
This isn't Bogdanovic from a few years ago, his knee is fucked.
I'd say maybe nephew's doctors can help him, but we've seen how that worked out.

[Ice009]

Darn. Hawks are making moves. They want to tank that lottery pick.

[Leetonidas]

Darn. Hawks are making moves. They want to tank that lottery pick.

I don't think Caris Lavert and Terrance Mann are saving their season tbh

[Mr. Body]

I don't totally get the Hunter trade. Was he that expensive for Atlanta?

[BatManu20]

Yea Bogi has been shit this year and his minutes have gone way down with the emergence of Johnson and Hunter. He's almost 33 with a bad knee. He's cooked imo.

[scott]

That should get ATL under the tax. Terance Mann ain't bad, but he also aint good. Maybe ATL thought they were getting Tre Mann

[BatManu20]

I don't think Caris Lavert and Terrance Mann are saving their season tbh

Yea both those guy's production have dwindled this season. Maybe a change of scenery and playing along Trae helps them, we'll see.

[NASpurs]

That should get ATL under the tax. Terance Mann ain't bad, but he also aint good. Maybe ATL thought they were getting Tre Mann

I see, it's like when the Spurs were following Luka Samanic in Europe thinking it was Luka Doncic.

[lefty]

ATLANTA I LOVE YOU

[Seventyniner]

Makes sense for ATL to start loading up on seconds. They have to keep their team stocked somehow.

(Edit: nevermind, they just sent out three seconds for Mann)

It's fascinating to watch what they do. I don't remember another situation where a team was not very good yet still had no control over their next three drafts. Tearing things down to tank doesn't make sense, but doing so to acquire other draft assets does.

[Spursfanfromafar]

Again. Bogi was terrible this season. This 3P% inexplicably has fallen way down to 30%. Mann's is better - 34.7%, but at 1/3 of the attempts. This move shouldn't help ATL in any significant way. Here's hoping it pushes them down further in the East.

[spurraider21]

That should get ATL under the tax. Terance Mann ain't bad, but he also aint good. Maybe ATL thought they were getting Tre Mann
terance mann used to be considered the better one. clippers were reluctant to trade him in recent years on the backs of one really good playoff game he had.

last year or so, when healthy at least, Tre has been the better Mann

[Ice009]

Yeah, I thought Terance was the better Mann (I assume they're not related?), but it seems the tables have turned and Tre is now the better player.

[scott]

terance mann used to be considered the better one. clippers were reluctant to trade him in recent years on the backs of one really good playoff game he had.

last year or so, when healthy at least, Tre has been the better Mann

Folks sleeping on Juwanna

[BatManu20]

Hawks not done

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[Ice009]

Is anyone else breaking NBA news now that Woj retired or is it all Shams now?

Looks like Keldon is staying :(. Was hoping to get him traded. Great guy and all, but just doesn't fit with what the team is trying to do.

[lefty]

More slavery

Disgusting country



https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1887588579855245607

[SpursGenius]

Hunter to Cavs is great for the ATL pick!
Almost like they are tanking for us.

[Robz4000]

More slavery

Disgusting country



https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1887588579855245607

:lol hopefully he gets traded again for the hell of it

[Mr. Body]

More slavery

Disgusting country



https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1887588579855245607

Rather live in Detroit than the sea of pedophilia and sexual abuse that is SLC.

[NASpurs]

More slavery

Disgusting country



https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1887588579855245607

And gets to travel around for free. Sign me up for this slave deal.

[lefty]

:lol hopefully he gets traded again for the hell of it

:lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Think Shroeder only has 2 more teams to sign for to beat the record for most different teams for a player. A true slave.

[lefty]

Rather live in Detroit than the sea of pedophilia and sexual abuse that is SLC.
That’s why Michael Jordan and Dick Bavetta are the GOATs

[montgod]

More slavery

Disgusting country



https://x.com/shamscharania/status/1887588579855245607

They might need to cut some folks. Spurs get Reed for a 2nd lol

[scott]

Bob Meyers is on ESPN saying that MEM was trying to get Durant, but KD said he didn't want to go to Memphis. What does everyone have against MEM? :lol

And we all think San Antonio is a tough place to attract FAs... damn at least we aren't Memphis

[Leetonidas]

Bob Meyers is on ESPN saying that MEM was trying to get Durant, but KD said he didn't want to go to Memphis. What does everyone have against MEM? :lol

And we all think San Antonio is a tough place to attract FAs... damn at least we aren't Memphis

Durant doesn't have a NTC though right? If not then Ishiba is an idiot for letting Durant dictate his decision

[Robz4000]

Bob Meyers is on ESPN saying that MEM was trying to get Durant, but KD said he didn't want to go to Memphis. What does everyone have against MEM? :lol

And we all think San Antonio is a tough place to attract FAs... damn at least we aren't Memphis

:lol you ever been there? The entire city is like the East side of SA.

[Mr. Body]

Bob Meyers is on ESPN saying that MEM was trying to get Durant, but KD said he didn't want to go to Memphis. What does everyone have against MEM? :lol

And we all think San Antonio is a tough place to attract FAs... damn at least we aren't Memphis

Have you ever been to Memphis?

[scott]

Durant doesn't have a NTC though right? If not then Ishiba is an idiot for letting Durant dictate his decision

Opposing teams probably only want to pay the price for KD if he agrees to extend

[montgod]

Durant doesn't have a NTC though right? If not then Ishiba is an idiot for letting Durant dictate his decision

Well it's not so much Ishiba, but the other team understanding that Durant doesn't want to come and wanting to avoid any issues in continuing to negotiate a trade for him.

[BatManu20]

Bob Meyers is on ESPN saying that MEM was trying to get Durant, but KD said he didn't want to go to Memphis. What does everyone have against MEM? :lol

And we all think San Antonio is a tough place to attract FAs... damn at least we aren't Memphis

Memphis is a ghetto, poverty-stricken, crime-infested shit-hole. Was there for half a day and was ready to leave. At least they have Beale St. and good barbecue though tbh.

[Leetonidas]

Meh, Durant still has an entire year on his deal after this. Were these teams really trying to keep a 38 year KD on a new contract? Figured it was just to maximize chances to make a run this season or next

[baseline bum]

Marcus Smart for two seconds to WAS

[montgod]

Marcus Smart for two seconds to WAS

Dang.. that's it?

[baseline bum]

.

[baseline bum]

From Shams

The Memphis Grizzlies are trading Marcus Smart and a 2025 first-round pick to the Washington Wizards in a multi-team trade that sends two second-round picks to Memphis, sources tell ESPN. Memphis creates roster flexibility with the move.

[szkorhetz]

Wtf. Start+FRP?

[NASpurs]

[Charania] The Los Angeles Clippers are trading Kevin Porter Jr. to the Milwaukee Bucks for MarJon Beauchamp, sources tell ESPN

[scott]

Future Spur Jake Laravia going to SAC. Kangz fans are going to really hate us when he has a big second half of the season and then we steal him this summer.

[montgod]

Gonna be a whole lot of buyouts after today

[spurraider21]

scott dying inside rn

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[NASpurs]

Anyone starting a buyout market thread? :lol

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Memphis paying a pick so they can create flexibility to re-sign Aldama.

[Robz4000]

Wonder if Memphis has something big in the works?

[baseline bum]

Warriors legend James Wiseman traded to Toronto

[baseline bum]

Wonder if Memphis has something big in the works?

Just a salary dump

[scott]

scott (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/member.php?u=150) dying inside rn

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It just sets up more heartbreak for SAC fans when he averages 12/6 to close out the year and the Kangz can't legally pay him and we swoop in with the 3/36 this summer :lol

[montgod]

Wonder if Memphis has something big in the works?

Might be to free up minutes for GG Jackson to really play full time

[BatManu20]

It just sets up more heartbreak for SAC fans when he averages 12/6 to close out the year and the Kangz can't legally pay him and we swoop in with the 3/36 this summer :lol

Might actually happen tbh. I remember the Spurs being high on him during the draft process.

[Robz4000]

Just a salary dump

Guess two Washington early 2nds is close to a Memphis late 1st.

[Mr. Body]

Memphis is a ghetto, poverty-stricken, crime-infested shit-hole. Was there for half a day and was ready to leave. At least they have Beale St. and good barbecue though tbh.

It's Beale Street and braving it to go out to Graceland. Otherwise, an ugly disaster of a city.

[Mr. Body]

Silver should extend the deadline. This has been wild.

[poopbox]

How we not get a backup center?

Brian probably won't make another trade until 2032

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

So Sean Marks overplayed his hand with Cam Johnson? Probably will wrap him in wool and try again in the summer.

[Robz4000]

Chicago also failed to trade Vuc and White. Guess they aren't going full tank mode.

[scott]

Bobby Marks saying that the Smart move will give MEM enough room this offseason to renegotiate and extend JJJ this summer (so they aren't completely reliant on him making All NBA)

[Ice009]

Memphis is a ghetto, poverty-stricken, crime-infested shit-hole. Was there for half a day and was ready to leave. At least they have Beale St. and good barbecue though tbh.

I don't normally watch it but watched it a couple of days ago after the Doncic trade, it seems like the crew on Gil's Arena was saying Memphis can't sustain multiple max/supermax contacts and that they'd have to leave Memphis and move the team. They were saying they should move the team to Nashville. Would Nashville have a bigger market there?

I didn't realize Memphis was that bad.

[KobesAchilles]

I don't normally watch it but watched it a couple of days ago after the Doncic trade, but it seems like the crew on Gil's Arena was saying Memphis can't sustain multiple max/supermax contacts and that they'd have to leave Memphis and move the team. They were saying they should move the team to Nashville. Would Nashville have a bigger market there?

I didn't realize Memphis was that bad.
It’s literally the worst city in the country. There is no nice part of the city. Just one giant ghetto. Nashville would be a great market for the Grizzlies. Even though it’s become an overpriced shit show of a city, it’s still leagues better than Memphis. Players love Nashville.

[Ice009]

It’s literally the worst city in the country. There is no nice part of the city. Just one giant ghetto. Nashville would be a great market for the Grizzlies. Even though it’s become an overpriced shit show of a city, it’s still leagues better than Memphis. Players love Nashville.

Now that you mention it, all the crew GIL's Arena said they love Nashville. Why do the players like it so much? Isn't it the country music capital (not that I have anything against that type of music, but I thought most NBA players wouldn't be into that)? Is there a lot to do/good nightlife in Nashville? Again, I don't know much about the city, happy to be educated.

I really did not know Memphis was that bad. Why did the NBA move the Grizzlies there from Vancouver if it's that bad? Isn't Vancouver one of the most beautiful cities? Memphis sounds terrible.

[Mr. Body]

The problem with Memphis is it joins the worst of Mississippi and Tennessee

[lefty]

Just realized this is Schroder’s 12th season

Remember that movie 12 years a slave? :lol