Trump Cabinet Appointments

[Winehole23]

Socailists usually do when they hate capitalism,,,,,Socialists btw do not hate capitalism. I do not hate capitalism. Without capitalism, the material preconditions for socialism do not exist, and btw more or less optimal mixed systems are possible, like the USA and China.

[HemisfairArena]

Socialists btw do not hate capitalism. I do not hate capitalism. Without capitalism, the material preconditions for socialism do not exist, and btw more or less optimal mixed systems are possible, like the USA and China.

Optimal mixed systems?,,,,China is communist/Socialist,,,,,not capitalism.

[Winehole23]

For certain things, like healthcare, education and infrastructure, nation-level coordination delivers a lower cost of doing business for everybody. China is eating our lunch on this efficiency right now.

[HemisfairArena]

For certain things, like healthcare, education and infrastructure, nation-level coordination delivers a lower cost of doing business for everybody. China is eating our lunch on this efficiency right now.


Are really telling me you would rather us be China than America?,,,,,

[Winehole23]

Optimal mixed systems?,,,,China is communist/Socialist,,,,,not capitalism.It's been a mixed system since NAFTA, you're behind the times, my good man.

China was like 6% of global manufacturing in 2000, they're at like 25% (recalled by heart, this may be a little off) today.

[Winehole23]

Are really telling me you would rather us be China than America?,,,,,not at all.

is it wrong to point out that another country maybe does one thing better than we do?

[Winehole23]

China has billionaires, believe it or not. And not just party flacks, real businessmen.

[HemisfairArena]

not at all.

is it wrong to point out that another country maybe does one thing better than we do?

No its not wrong,,,,,but it is if you vote that way and it carries much more than just one thing,,,,,

[HemisfairArena]

China has billionaires, believe it or not

So does Saudi Arabia,,,,I dont want America to be that either,,,,,

[Winehole23]

No its not wrong,,,,,but it is if you vote that way and it carries much more than just one thing,,,,,Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are centrist and conservative Democrats respectively.

They're probably the most conservative democrats you'll ever see again.

[Winehole23]

So does Saudi Arabia,,,,I dont want America to be that either,,,,,I don't want America to be China, but the idea that we have nothing to learn from them is surely wrong. Investing in things that lower the cost of doing business for everyone -- infrastructure, education, public health -- like the US did in the late 19th and early 20th century and China is doing now....only seems like basic prudence, no?

The increase of general prosperity and productivity in China in the last 30 years has been amazing in its scope and swiftness. It also carries world historical significance.

[SnakeBoy]

he'd lose

for it

:tu

but you'd vote for him according to you

[Winehole23]

but you'd vote for him according to youCaptious, but I can see how you'd say that.

Presumably Gaetz wouldn't be primarying Trump, and whether he was or he wasn't, I wouldn't vote for Gaetz.

Just assuming here that Trump won't seize a third term for good measure, and that there would be somebody else to vote for besides Trump and Gaetz.

[Thread]

From your own link...strange you didn't highlight this part of it.

"Secretary of Defense nominee and former Fox News host Pete Hegseth was accused of and investigated for sexual assault in 2017. No criminal charges ever emerged from the investigation."

We're waiting on the 911 calls and the Police reports.

[Thread]

Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are centrist and conservative Democrats respectively.

They're probably the most conservative democrats you'll ever see again.

...& thank Christ for that.

[HemisfairArena]

Kamala Harris and Joe Biden are centrist and conservative Democrats respectively.

They're probably the most conservative democrats you'll ever see again.


LMAO,,,,youre outta your mind,,,,,

[Blake]

and you democrats coudnt find a candidate to beat him,,,tells ya how fuckin' pathetic your party is,,,,

You vote for them. How pathetic does that make you then?

[HemisfairArena]

You vote for them. How pathetic does that make you then?

He won, dumbshit,,,,how sad are you and your party that you lost to him?,,,,,

[z0sa]

Optimal mixed systems?,,,,China is communist/Socialist,,,,,not capitalism.

Hoooolllllyyyyyy fuck what an idiot.

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcljhzKXUAAsdhQ?format=jpg&name=small
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcljhzKWYAEp9fc?format=jpg&name=small

[Winehole23]

seven kids by three women, cheated with co-workers to break up his two first marriages

obviously not a high integrity person

[Winehole23]

she was tasked with taking Hegseth back to his room because he was blotto

1858190298964181394

https://x.com/beyerstein/status/1858190298964181394

[ducks]

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/1858118964154450386

Sanders wow he is right on something

[HemisfairArena]

Hoooolllllyyyyyy fuck what an idiot.

explain, dumbfuck,,,,

[z0sa]

explain, dumbfuck,,,,

:lol China's super socialist/communist with all those privately-owned billion dollar companies operating in our markets. Maybe you've heard of Alibaba, Tencent, or Huawei. Hell even Temu or the products from Wish or any of the other millions of products we consume and use daily here in the USA. You think all that money just goes straight to the Chinese government, simpleton? :rollin

You're the dumbfuck, as you demonstrate daily. China is for all intents and purposes, a capitalist country. You're too stupid to even understand why we buy everything in China, or why China has been surging ever since they started running a mixed economy. Capitalism expands wealth, not communism. Being a conservative I'd think you'd know these basic principles. Dumbfuck

[HemisfairArena]

:lol China's super socialist/communist with all those privately-owned billion dollar companies operating in our markets. Maybe you've heard of Alibaba, Tencent, or Huawei. Hell even Temu or the products from Wish or any of the other millions of products we consume and use daily here in the USA. You think all that money just goes straight to the Chinese government, simpleton? :rollin

You're the dumbfuck, as you demonstrate daily. China is for all intents and purposes, a capitalist country. You're too stupid to even understand why we buy everything in China, or why China has been surging ever since they started running a mixed economy. Capitalism expands wealth, not communism. Being a conservative I'd think you'd know these basic principles. Dumbfuck

What a stupid fuck you are,,,,,:lmao A mixed economy,,,,their economy is in trouble you dumb fuck,,,,look it up, dumb ass.

[z0sa]

Harvard Kennedy School, 2022:

CHINA’S PRIVATE SECTOR is often summed up with a combination of four numbers: 60/70/80/90. Private firms contribute approximately 60% of China’s GDP, 70% of its innovative capacity, 80% of urban employment and 90% of new jobs.

Link (https://www.hks.harvard.edu/faculty-research/policy-topics/international-relations-security/what-future-chinas-private-sector#:~:text=CHINA'S%20PRIVATE%20SECTOR%20is%20o ften,and%2090%25%20of%20new%20jobs.)

[z0sa]

:lol Hemisfail doesn't know what a mixed economy is

[HemisfairArena]

Zosa doesnt know the difference between communism and capitalism,,,,:lmao

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcodeibXUAAQ4Nk?format=jpg&name=medium

[TSA]

https://x.com/BradCohn/status/1858016632603344962

[TSA]

she was tasked with taking Hegseth back to his room because he was blotto

1858190298964181394

https://x.com/beyerstein/status/1858190298964181394

https://x.com/TomBevanRCP/status/1857764413870092374

[SnakeBoy]

https://x.com/BradCohn/status/1858016632603344962

It's exactly the same except for all the differences

[Winehole23]

https://x.com/TomBevanRCP/status/1857764413870092374making political judgments about character, good conduct and demeanor don't require knowledge of wrongdoing to a legal certainty and never have -- y'all just have really low standards for your own side.

[Winehole23]

once upon a time, the mere rumor of a criminal investigation or indictment would be enough to kill a candidacy. now y'all are just shameless.

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/TomBevanRCP/status/1857764413870092374

How many crimes did Hillary Clinton commit according to you?

[koriwhat]

:lol China's super socialist/communist with all those privately-owned billion dollar companies operating in our markets. Maybe you've heard of Alibaba, Tencent, or Huawei. Hell even Temu or the products from Wish or any of the other millions of products we consume and use daily here in the USA. You think all that money just goes straight to the Chinese government, simpleton? :rollin

You're the dumbfuck, as you demonstrate daily. China is for all intents and purposes, a capitalist country. You're too stupid to even understand why we buy everything in China, or why China has been surging ever since they started running a mixed economy. Capitalism expands wealth, not communism. Being a conservative I'd think you'd know these basic principles. Dumbfuck

You do realize what the acronym CCP stands for, right? :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

:lol these morons think Chinese didn't become capitalist.

[Winehole23]

:lol these morons think Chinese didn't become capitalist.what is wage/price arbitrage?

we thought we could vassalize the PRC like we did Europe, but this has not been the case so far -- we incubated our number one competitor, literally gave them investment, a portion of our erstwhile industrial production, and most favored nation status.

[Winehole23]

for cheap goods

[Winehole23]

and cheap labor

[Winehole23]

"Sold us out for the short end money"

[HemisfairArena]

:lol these morons think Chinese didn't become capitalist.

they didnt, dumbfuck,,,,lmao

[ChumpDumper]

they didnt, dumbfuck,,,,lmao

Jack Ma Yun (born 10 September 1964) is a Chinese business magnate, investor and philanthropist. He is the co-founder of Alibaba Group, a multinational technology conglomerate. In addition, Ma is also the co-founder of Yunfeng Capital, a Chinese private equity firm. As of February 2024, with a net worth of $25.6 billion,[2] Ma is the seventh-wealthiest person in China, as well as the 45th wealthiest person in the world, ranked by the Bloomberg Billionaires Index.

Is Jack Ma a capitalist?

Yes or no.

[florige]

once upon a time, the mere rumor of a criminal investigation or indictment would be enough to kill a candidacy. now y'all are just shameless.


Now fake blow jobs on a mic are apparently now ok and just status quo. We have evolved and it just "locker room" small talk

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcwjfDfXoAEBqZh?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Blake]

https://x.com/BradCohn/status/1858016632603344962

Is he going to push then for all non natural colorings to be outlawed?

Hooray capitalism!

[BackHome]

The food industry for the U.S is terrible there is a reason why Diabetes is rising at alarming levels

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcwIgJoW8AANPkM?format=jpg&name=900x900

[benefactor]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GcwjfDfXoAEBqZh?format=jpg&name=900x900
Sounds to me like she is going full useful idiot:tu

[Winehole23]

Now fake blow jobs on a mic are apparently now ok and just status quo. We have evolved and it just "locker room" small talk"common touch"

[Winehole23]

The food industry for the U.S is terrible there is a reason why Diabetes is rising at alarming levelsgreat, what's the plan?

[Winehole23]

in passing, the importance of CABLE and TV broadcasting for Trump in picking his cabinet dates him as a late 20th century guy. it's somewhat quaint that people on TV are so important to him.

[ChumpDumper]

The food industry for the U.S is terrible there is a reason why Diabetes is rising at alarming levels

:lol you guys lost your shit when Black First Lady said kids should eat healthier.

[ChumpDumper]

Red state people are more likely to murder you, to impregnate your teenage daughter, to commit a violent crime against you, to commit a nonviolent crime against you, to watch Desperate Housewives on TV, to buy pornography, to buy degenerate video games like Grand Theft Auto.

[Winehole23]

LMAO,,,,youre outta your mind,,,,,no, not kidding

[Winehole23]

1859011302288703976

https://x.com/MikeBeauvais/status/1859011302288703976

[Blake]

great, what's the plan?

More McDonalds

[Winehole23]

:lol you guys lost your shit when Black First Lady said kids should eat healthier.that was rank socialism and an insult to individual freedom, this is totally different

[Winehole23]

"big dick toilet" man

1859263103063511246

https://x.com/kaitlancollins/status/1859263103063511246

[Winehole23]

Sounds to me like she is going full useful idiot:tu


lady who’s been screaming about groomers has information on republicans about sexual impropriety but she’s just gonna hold on to it unless people stop picking on her friend for fucking an underage girl.

[Winehole23]

"what's a little statutory rape, between friends?

[Winehole23]

POSIWID (https://www.anildash.com/2024/05/29/systems-the-purpose-of-a-system/)

1859286384009412668https://x.com/denisedwheeler/status/1859286384009412668

[Winehole23]

More McDonaldsok

How much McDonalds would you have to eat, to have consumed 100% of the RDA of everything?

[Thread]

"what's a little statutory rape, between friends?

Where's the 911 calls?
Where's the Police reports.

[Blake]

ok

How much McDonalds would you have to eat, to have consumed 100% of the RDA of everything?

https://media.newyorker.com/photos/5c3e10b2f92c694343cc71b9/master/pass/Rosner-Fast-Food-Trump.jpg

[Winehole23]

there are sworn witnesses and Venmo transactions set to public

damn, Republican standards are low

[Winehole23]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gc3KTvmWkAAhFyW?format=png&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

(the Gaetz thumbnail is higher up, the one with all the action in the middle is former County Comptroller and running buddy Joel Greenberg)

[SnakeBoy]

Whinehole putting it all together when the Biden DOJ couldn't

[SnakeBoy]

President-elect Donald Trump is expected to name Russ Vought, a lead architect of the controversial Project 2025, as his choice to head the Office of Management and Budget, multiple outlets reported Wednesday.

[benefactor]

Dr Oz

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[ChumpDumper]

Whinehole putting it all together when the Biden DOJ couldn't

It's always been there. You're just heavily relying on the two tiered justice system.

[Thread]

It's always been there. You're just heavily relying on the two tiered justice system.

..."Whatever it takes."

[velik_m]

Linda McMahon, Trump’s Education pick, was sued for allegedly enabling sexual abuse of children

...
Phillips’ alleged abuse at the WWE was reported by the New York Post as early as 1992.

“It was common knowledge in the WWE — among the ring crew, wrestlers, and executives — that Phillips surrounded himself with a posse of underaged Ring Boys, including when he traveled across state lines and stayed in hotel rooms with the children,” the lawsuit alleges.

The McMahons fired Phillips in 1988 after allegations about him sexually exploiting children continued to surface, according to the lawsuit. They “rehired him six weeks later on the condition that he ‘steer clear from kids,’” but he continued sexually exploiting young boys with the McMahons’ knowledge, the lawsuit alleges.

“After decades of suffering in silence from their childhood trauma, these survivors come forward now to hold Defendants accountable for their conduct in allowing the systemic and pervasive abuse by Philips,” the lawsuit alleges.

...


https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/21/business/linda-mcmahon-abuse-wwe-trump-education/index.html

[Blake]

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/11/21/business/linda-mcmahon-abuse-wwe-trump-education/index.html

Only the best

[z0sa]

Pedophiles good now

[Blake]

Pedophiles good now

When have they not been good for Republicans, catholics and evangelicals?

[koriwhat]

Pedophiles good now

LMAO The court of public opinion strikes again!

Take those blinders off already bro. The same MSM tried to make Floyd out to be a saint but instead he was just a scummy druggie who robbed others. Same ol' story time and time again with the Pravda MSM yet you keep falling for everything. I'll wait for due process which was once a staple of our justice system.

[koriwhat]

When have they not been good for Republicans, catholics and evangelicals?

Funny you think such nonsense. I guess you're a groomer, sex trafficker, abuser then, BlaKKKe? I mean, if you truly think as such why throw your little daughter into the lion's den, Catholic Private School, and pay for it? Maybe, you despise her because she looks like her mother, your ex-beard. SMH :lol

[Joseph Kony]

WTF dude George Floyd have to do with Linda McMahon being accused of enabling sexual abuse of minors in the 1990s? :lol

[Blake]

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I bet it was long and angry. I also bet if I responded, he would end up begging me to leave him alone. Again. Tatstard is so weird.

[koriwhat]

Yeah yeah ignore list bs... Bro you say this but my notifications say differently.

You place your daughter in the hands of the very same people you claim are PEDOPHILES. You must be one yourself then or aiding them, BlaKKKe. LOGIC 101!

[koriwhat]

WTF dude George Floyd have to do with Linda McMahon being accused of enabling sexual abuse of minors in the 1990s? :lol

Right over your hand, dumb fuck. The correlation is the Pravda MSM. You're such a stupid fucking troll.

Talk some shit from behind your REDLION#23 alt now, bud. :tu

[Thread]

When have they not been good for Republicans, catholics and evangelicals?

...Biden as well, he's a child sniffer.

[Blake]

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Lol weirdos

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Lol weirdos

lmcontrollinao!!!

[SnakeBoy]

Better

1859741577029222769

[ChumpDumper]

Better

1859741577029222769

https://www.kff.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/03/FL-e5c983bf2a8ee655c374a9d93a902140.png

:lol

[koriwhat]

lmcontrollinao!!!

These "dudes" have that ignore message saved in a txt file on their PC's just like they have photos of my legs saved on those same PC's. We're weirdo though... :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

These "dudes" have that ignore message saved in a txt file on their PC's just like they have photos of my legs saved on those same PC's. We're weirdo though... :lmaoWe'll see what quoting this does to you.

[Winehole23]

winding down helping Qatar with its human trafficking PR problem to be Trump's hatchet man in DOJ


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gc_dSHHXsAALck9?format=jpg&name=900x900

[Winehole23]

Pam Bondi is a terrible nominee, but at least she's not plainly unqualified like Gaetz

[Winehole23]

Remember the robosigning scandal? This is an example.

Pam Bondi protected dirtbag law firms and screwed Florida homeowners.


A group of foreclosure victims had found documents that were literally signed “Bogus Assignee.” They had documents dated 9/9/9999. They had documents notarized on dates before they were allegedly created. They traced these documents back to Florida’s “foreclosure mills,” law firms that churned out foreclosures the way a factory churns out sweaters. The false documents were necessary because banks and lenders, striving during the housing bubble to sell mortgages and deliver them to investors, securitized the loans without maintaining chain of title, botching the true ownership records. Instead of rectifying the situation, the banks had the foreclosure mills concoct false evidence and present it in courts to dispossess people.

When Pam Bondi Protected Foreclosure Fraudsters - The American Prospect (https://prospect.org/justice/2024-11-22-when-pam-bondi-protected-foreclosure-fraudsters/)

[Joseph Kony]

Right over your hand, dumb fuck. The correlation is the Pravda MSM. You're such a stupid fucking troll.

Talk some shit from behind your REDLION#23 alt now, bud. :tu
thanks for reminding me of a random troll account for 20 years ago :lol what other trolls did you find with that defunct email address?

[Winehole23]

"100% Trump-er" Kelly Loeffler for the Dept of agriculture

[HemisfairArena]

Pam Bondi is a terrible nominee, but at least she's not plainly unqualified like Gaetz


LMAO,,,,,Garland is the worst AG there has ever been but I know youre a democrat and have to hate everything republican but Bondi will be without a doubt much better than Garland,,,,,but carry on,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

LMAO,,,,,Garland is the worst AG there has ever beenWhy?

How many others do you know of to make that call?

[HemisfairArena]

Why?

How many others do you know of to make that call?

Well,,,lets see, Chump,,,,one President was charged with having classified documents and the other wasnt because they said he was a feeble old man and we should just sweep his crime under the rug,,,,,name me another AG that has been that corrupt regarding two presidents,,,,,,I'll wait for your response,,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

Well,,,lets see, Chump,,,,one President was charged with having classified documents and the other wasnt because they said he was a feeble old man and we should just sweep his crime under the rug,,,,,name me another AG that has been that corrupt regarding two presidents,,,,,,I'll wait for your response,,,,,Biden cooperated.

Trump didn't.

It's hilarious that you still can't understand such a simple concept.

Mitchell was easily worse. You probably don't even know who that is.

[Winehole23]

Seb Gorka for counterterrorism director is sinister

[Winehole23]

Scott Bessent for Treasury


It will be the first government position for Bessent, who currently runs the hedge fund Key Square Capital Management. He previously worked closely with billionaires George Soros and Stanley Druckenmiller.

[Winehole23]

Billionaires, financial backers, and celebrities...

[Leetonidas]

The swamp is filled to the brim

[benefactor]

Russell Vought for the director of the Office of Management and Budget.

So does Trump still not know anything about Project 2025 or does he appoint people to his cabinet who are a part of things he hasn't read?

[Winehole23]

Russell Vought for the director of the Office of Management and Budget.

So does Trump still not know anything about Project 2025 or does he appoint people to his cabinet who are a part of things he hasn't read?"abysmal"

[SnakeBoy]

Russell Vought for the director of the Office of Management and Budget.

So does Trump still not know anything about Project 2025 or does he appoint people to his cabinet who are a part of things he hasn't read?

What's Project 2025?

[Winehole23]

What's Project 2025?what do you think Trump was referring to?

[ChumpDumper]

What's Project 2025?

You are low information.

[koriwhat]

Seb Gorka for counterterrorism director is sinister

Ew! I can't stand that pompous arrogant shithead.

[koriwhat]

Russell Vought for the director of the Office of Management and Budget.

So does Trump still not know anything about Project 2025 or does he appoint people to his cabinet who are a part of things he hasn't read?

You and yours being upset is victory tbh. As well, I've yet to see you upset whatsoever over liberal order think tanks but but but Orange Man bad!

It's hilarious how this project 2025 shit has you regressives crying endlessly.

[benefactor]

What's Project 2025?
Exactly.

[FrostKing]

I'm not so into this topic

But to me it again illustrates the weakness of Trump/MAGA. The help is kinda weak. Not the sharpest. This is one aspect Trump seems to not be able to fix. Because he needs people he can trust and/or yes men? Maybe. Or fundamentally conservative won't be the most advanced.

[ChumpDumper]

You and yours being upset is victory tbh. As well, I've yet to see you upset whatsoever over liberal order think tanks but but but Orange Man bad!

It's hilarious how this project 2025 shit has you regressives crying endlessly.

So you're on that side.

[Blake]

I'm not so into this topic

But to me it again illustrates the weakness of Trump/MAGA. The help is kinda weak. Not the sharpest. This is one aspect Trump seems to not be able to fix. Because he needs people he can trust and/or yes men? Maybe. Or fundamentally conservative won't be the most advanced.

But you voted for him any way. And don't forget that Trump himself is a pretty big idiot too.

[FrostKing]

But you voted for him any way. And don't forget that Trump himself is a pretty big idiot too.
USA is so directed in Globalist direction that leadership preaching America First, is win

It's steadily died down but when I still hear political solution - import cheap labor. No. Heard that for almost 20 years and we are over it. Rather try Nationalism/Patriotism.

[ChumpDumper]

USA is so directed in Globalist direction that leadership preaching America First, is win

It's steadily died down but when I still hear political solution - import cheap labor. No. Heard that for almost 20 years and we are over it. Rather try Nationalism/Patriotism.:lol thinking Republicans want to pay workers more

[HemisfairArena]

:lol thinking Republicans want to pay workers more

:lol thinking democrats do,,,,,

California Rejects Minimum Wage Rise To National High (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-rejects-minimum-wage-rise-to-national-high/ar-AA1uqlCD?ocid=BingNewsSerp)

[FrostKing]

:lol thinking Republicans want to pay workers more
F-Republicans

Trump will increase cent per citizen

[ChumpDumper]

:lol thinking democrats do,,,,,

California Rejects Minimum Wage Rise To National High (https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/california-rejects-minimum-wage-rise-to-national-high/ar-AA1uqlCD?ocid=BingNewsSerp)
What is the minimum wage there now? Please answer.

F-Republicans
Trump is a Republican.

Trump will increase cent per citizen
Why didn't he before?

[HemisfairArena]

What is the minimum wage there now? Please answer.

Trump is a Republican.

Why didn't he before?

What is the cost of living in Cali, Chumper?,,,,,,I know a two bedroom apartment is more than 1,000 dollars on average than in Texas,,,,,so do you want to make it comparative?,,,,,housing prices compared to minimum wage differences?

[ChumpDumper]

What is the cost of living in Cali, Chumper?,,,,,,I know a two bedroom apartment is more than 1,000 dollars on average than in Texas,,,,,so do you want to make it comparative?,,,,,housing prices compared to minimum wage differences?Boomer folds.

It's too easy to shut you the fuck up.

[HemisfairArena]

Boomer folds.

Chumper knows he's beat,,,,,again.

[ChumpDumper]

Chumper knows he's beat,,,,,

I asked you a simple question and you shat yourself.

[HemisfairArena]

I asked you a simple question and you shat yourself.

Nope,,,,just schooled your ass again,,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

Nope,,,,just schooled your ass again,,,,,By shitting yourself?

:lol sure

I'll ask again: what is the minimum wage in California?

[HemisfairArena]

By shitting yourself?

:lol sure

I'll ask again: what is the minimum wage in California?


I'll ask again,,,,whats the cost of living in California?,,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

I'll shit myself again,,,,,:lmao

[HemisfairArena]

:lmao

folds as usual,,,,have a nice night,,,,:lol

[Blake]

folds as usual,,,,have a nice night,,,,:lol

You punched in for work early tonight. Gonna be a long night?

[ChumpDumper]

folds as usual,,,,have a nice night,,,,:lolHope the orderly can change your diaper before his shift ends.:tu

[Winehole23]

radical, law of the jungle Republicans are in charge now


On his Substack, Damon Linker talks about another aspect of this politics of national despair, embodied in Trump’s cabinet picks, what he calls “The Bestial Politics of Masculine Self-Assertion (https://damonlinker.substack.com/p/the-bestial-politics-of-masculine):” (https://damonlinker.substack.com/p/the-bestial-politics-of-masculine)


Put in Nietzschean terms, Trumpism is seeking to advance a revolutionary (https://nypost.com/2024/11/15/us-news/why-elon-musk/) transvaluation of values by inverting the morality that undergirds both traditional conservatism and liberal institutionalism. In this inversion, norms and rules that counsel and enforce propriety, restraint, and deference to institutional authority become vices, while flouting them become virtues. The result is a radical form of political action that gives a central governing role to “bad” men who enjoy provoking the outraged indignation of those incapable of their own similarly bold acts of defiance.



This speaks to what I’ve started to call the “Trumpian cultural revolution” and I think it’s compatible with the accounts I’ve tried to give of “ (https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-shadow-of-the-mob)gangster Gemeinschaft (https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-shadow-of-the-mob)” (https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/the-shadow-of-the-mob) and “ (https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/reading-watching-111724?utm_source=publication-search)enrabblement (https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/reading-watching-111724?utm_source=publication-search),” (https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/reading-watching-111724?utm_source=publication-search) with their kind of deliberate embrace of a Hobbesian state of nature.
Reading, Watching 11.24.24 - by John Ganz - Unpopular Front (https://www.unpopularfront.news/p/reading-watching-112424)

[Winehole23]

https://substackcdn.com/image/fetch/w_1456,c_limit,f_auto,q_auto:good,fl_progressive:s teep/https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2Ff6d63b0 8-ff52-4c71-98ac-d0424475d0fa_836x575.png

Zero-Sum Thinking (https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/stantcheva/files/zero_sum_political_divides.pdf)

[Spurs Homer]

So, no blacks in the cabinet yet?

i do see a gay soros protege (scott bessent?) hired already in trump world….lolololol

[Winehole23]

Alex Wong, another incoming antiwar guy


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GdKuBS8XoAAJO7e?format=jpg&name=900x900

[ChumpDumper]

The main worry in the Cold War was the destruction of the entire planet.

What's "more worrying" than that?

Does China have a lot of trans girl athletes or something?

[Winehole23]

The main worry in the Cold War was the destruction of the entire planet.

What's "more worrying" than that?

Does China have a lot of trans girl athletes or something?China's economic growth over the last 25 years is perceived as a threat to the US's economic dominance.

[ChumpDumper]

China's economic growth over the last 25 years is perceived as a threat to the US's economic dominance.

We probably should've thought of that when we started purposely fueling and accelerating that growth. #faceeatingtiger

[HemisfairArena]

We probably should've thought of that when we started purposely fueling and accelerating that growth. #faceeatingtiger


you can think democrats for that,,,,,Trump wanted to make China pay their fair share in trade and you democrats screamed bloody murder like the communists you are,,,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

you can think democrats for that,,,,,Trump wanted to make China pay their fair share in trade and you democrats screamed bloody murder like the communists you are,,,,,,:lol Republicans controlled all the government and Trump did nothing about China except gargle Xi's balls over his handling of COVID.

[HemisfairArena]

:lol Republicans controlled all the government and Trump did nothing about China except gargle Xi's balls over his handling of COVID.

:lmao,,,,you mean when you demotards controlled the house and impeached him twice for bullshit?,,,,,do you democrats ever know any facts?,,,,,,by the way your liberal NBA and LeBron James crawled into bed with China but you think its republicans that are communists,,,,LMAO,,,,but carry on, dumbass,,,,do you still think covid came from bats?,,,,,,LMAO.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao,,,,you meanNo I mean the first two years of his term.

do you democrats ever know any facts?
It's a fact Trump gargled Xi's balls over his handling of COVID after doing nothing of consequence to China when he had full control of the government.

liberal NBA and LeBron James crawled into bed with China but you think its republicans that are communists
No one said the NBA and Lebron are president and no one said Republicans are communists. You're on tilt.

do you still think covid came from bats?
What's your conspiracy theory here?

[Thread]

China's economic growth over the last 25 years is perceived as a threat to the US's economic dominance.

...that's only because we can dish it, but we can never take it whether it's China, or, Russia.

[Winehole23]

knives out

1861409487304712323https://x.com/JHWeissmann/status/1861409487304712323

[Winehole23]

You need a background check to rent an apartment but not to be Director of National Intelligence?

[Winehole23]

Donald Trump (https://www.independent.co.uk/topic/donald-trump) has tapped a GOP megadonor with no military experience to head up the U.S. Navy in his latest slew of cabinet picks. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-cabinet-miller-hegseth-fox-noem-b2646112.html)

On Tuesday night, the president-elect announced John Phelan (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-news-tariffs-cabinet-updates-b2653884.html) as his choice to lead the Department of the Navy under defense secretary Pete Hegseth (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/pete-hegseth-defense-secretary-trump-cabinet-fox-b2649241.html) if the latter controversial nominee is confirmed by the Senate.

[Winehole23]

Wm. F Buckley, Jr had a point when he said he'd rather be ruled by the first 2000 names in the Boston telephone book than the faculty of Harvard, but Trump isn't doing anything like this -- he's appointing a bunch of Yalies and Harvard men from his list of campaign contributors, and a heaping handful of Fox talking heads

[Thread]

Wm. F Buckley, Jr had a point when he said he'd rather be ruled by the first 2000 names in the Boston telephone book than the faculty of Harvard, but Trump isn't doing anything like this -- he's appointing a bunch of Yalies and Harvard men from his list of campaign contributors, and a heaping handful of Fox talking heads

All that counts is he's entitled to.

That's it & that's all.

There is nothing else.

[GAustex]

So slaying the poon is bad now

[ChumpDumper]

Man, Trumptards really don't believe in consent.

[SnakeBoy]

Pam Bondi running the DOJ and Kash Patel as FBI Director

https://c.tenor.com/WXKf-FWco6MAAAAd/tenor.gif

[ChumpDumper]

What are you expecting?

[HemisfairArena]

What are you expecting?

What are you expecting?,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

What are you expecting?,,,,Ineptitude.

[HemisfairArena]

Ineptitude.

Then it should be no different then the last four years,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

Then it should be no different then the last four years,,,,Yeah, especially if you actually know who appointed the current FBI director.:lol

[HemisfairArena]

Yeah, especially if you actually know who appointed the current FBI director.:lol

Chumper folds again,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

Chumper folds again,,,,Trump.

It was Trump.

[Winehole23]

It's shaping up to be a government by rich, Trumpy cranks for their own benefit. Total elite capture.

[florige]

It's shaping up to be a government by rich, Trumpy cranks for their own benefit. Total elite capture.

Idk but if I had a say I would let every one of these picks get confirmed unimpeded. Every single one. The people who voted for Trump says everything was better under Trump. So let all of these picks get confirmation and when it all crashes and burns then oh well…. He won so give the people what they want at this point is my mindset

[Blake]

Idk but if I had a say I would let every one of these picks get confirmed unimpeded. Every single one. The people who voted for Trump says everything was better under Trump. So let all of these picks get confirmation and when it all crashes and burns then oh well…. He won so give the people what they want at this point is my mindset

But but he has a healthcare plan in the works!

[z0sa]

Idk but if I had a say I would let every one of these picks get confirmed unimpeded. Every single one. The people who voted for Trump says everything was better under Trump. So let all of these picks get confirmation and when it all crashes and burns then oh well…. He won so give the people what they want at this point is my mindset

Yep, exactly

[Winehole23]

incompetence, corruption, petty telenovela striving, asset managers and central bankers are all possible guardrails to the Trumpy New Model Army.

[ElNono]

Idk but if I had a say I would let every one of these picks get confirmed unimpeded. Every single one. The people who voted for Trump says everything was better under Trump. So let all of these picks get confirmation and when it all crashes and burns then oh well…. He won so give the people what they want at this point is my mindset

That's likely what's going to happen anyways, but I really prefer the world not to burn, tbh

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oqr5mp25r7z3vfr3igeerxbw/bafkreidi2kac4lfmtd35f2uhcsolrwk2ls27uaz3tqn24gc3a gpmcu53oy@jpeg

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:t6ubj2wlhc34awzcymh3qpur/bafkreibi24llm52xtzyiuj66ozvrowuwmyvmvhmu3koripl2o hhkd47zsy@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Bad with money, a drunken loser and a sex pest

Pete Hegseth can't run a small charity, giving him the Pentagon is bonkers


Meanwhile, the finances of V.F.F. grew so dire that the group’s donors hatched a plan to take control away from Hegseth. The donors’ representatives hired a forensic accountant to review the books. The findings were appalling. In January, 2009, Hegseth sent a letter to the donors admitting that, as of that day, the group had less than a thousand dollars in the bank and $434,833 in unpaid bills. The group also had run up credit-card debts of as much as seventy-five thousand dollars. Hegseth said that he took full responsibility for the mess, but added that, unless the donors gave him more funds, V.F.F. would have to file for bankruptcy and close down.

One of the group’s backers initially agreed to Hegseth’s request. But, according to the early sympathizer, the donors decided, “Let’s shut this thing down. Pete can get another job.” The donors, who were strong supporters of America’s military role in Iraq and Afghanistan, arranged for another veterans’ group, Military Families United, which represented the families of Gold Star warriors, to merge with V.F.F. and take over most of its management. “We tried to castrate him,” Hegseth’s former associate admitted. “It was a handoff.” Annual federal tax filings for V.F.F. show the group’s coffers draining and Hegseth’s compensation dwindling. In 2010, the records show, Hegseth was identified as the group’s “Executive Director/President” and was paid forty-five thousand dollars for thirty hours of work a week. The next year, he was identified as the group’s “officer,” and paid a salary of five thousand dollars for thirty minutes of work a week. In 2012, the tax filing again identified him as the group’s “officer,” and his compensation rose to eight thousand dollars, but the total grants received by the group that year totalled a mere eighty-one dollars.

Margaret Hoover, a Republican political commentator and political strategist who worked as an adviser to V.F.F. between 2008 and 2010, recently told CNN that she had grave concerns about Hegseth’s ability to run the Pentagon, the largest department in the federal government, given his mismanagement at V.F.F. “I watched him run an organization very poorly, lose the confidence of donors. The organization ultimately folded and was forced to merge with another organization who individuals felt could run and manage funds on behalf of donors more responsibly than he could. That was my experience with him.” Hoover stressed that V.F.F. was an exceedingly small organization, with fewer than ten employees, and a budget of between five million and ten million dollars. She told CNN, “And he couldn’t do that properly, I don’t know how he’s going to run an organization with an eight-hundred-and-fifty-seven-billion-dollar budget and three million individuals.”
Pete Hegseth’s Secret History | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/pete-hegseths-secret-history)

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:drt24zbyhchuboa2hezuuzkq/bafkreiavsoomubaqmowbicrfevaunagyc6frsjvwaeqg75it5 lntuwk67i@jpeg

[Thread]

Bad with money, a drunken loser and a sex pest

Pete Hegseth can't run a small charity, giving him the Pentagon is bonkers

Pete Hegseth’s Secret History | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/pete-hegseths-secret-history)

Do that [[[recess appointment thingy]]] you guys keep talking about and don't stop until the SC orders Trump to do so.

And don't talk about it. DO ITPERIOD

[Winehole23]

hope he gets the help he needs


Pete Hegseth, President-elect Donald Trump’s pick for defense secretary (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-picks-fox-news-host-pete-hegseth-defense-secretary-rcna179895), drank in ways that concerned his colleagues at Fox News, according to 10 current and former Fox employees who spoke with NBC News.

Two of those people said that on more than a dozen occasions during Hegseth’s time as a co-host of “Fox & Friends Weekend,” which began in 2017, they smelled alcohol on him before he went on air. Those same two people, plus another, said that during his time there he appeared on television after they’d heard him talk about being hungover as he was getting ready or on set.

One of the sources said they smelled alcohol on him as recently as last month and heard him complain about being hungover this fall.
Pete Hegseth's drinking worried colleagues at Fox News, sources tell NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pete-hegseths-drinking-worried-colleagues-fox-news-sources-tell-nbc-ne-rcna181471)

[Blake]

hope he gets the help he needs

Pete Hegseth's drinking worried colleagues at Fox News, sources tell NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pete-hegseths-drinking-worried-colleagues-fox-news-sources-tell-nbc-ne-rcna181471)

It doesn't worry Trump tards.

Also from red team: YOU'VE GOT NO REAL PROOF ONLY WITNESS TESTIMONY!!!!

[Winehole23]

It doesn't worry Trump tards.

Also from red team: YOU'VE GOT NO REAL PROOF ONLY WITNESS TESTIMONY!!!!his own co-workers snitched on him to a rival network

[Winehole23]

facing the "gravity" of his appointment, DEA hopeful Chad Chronister withdraws to continue to serve Hillsborough County, FL as Sheriff.


Sheriff Chad Chronister is married to the daughter of Ed DeBartolo, the former owner of the SF 49ers who Trump pardoned for gambling fraud. Sheriff Chad Chronister and Philanthropist Nikki DeBartolo Share Their Love for Tampa - Tampa Magazine (https://tampamagazines.com/chronister-debartolo/)

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:hj4kfvxi4xdr3i36mnc23unb/bafkreid5pdkqekicohr2osaskeucyzakz5vmztcgiq7da5uca fqtrlbx34@jpeg

[Winehole23]

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[TSA]

his own co-workers snitched on him to a rival network

When will you stop falling for NBC bullshit? :lol

https://x.com/willcain/status/1864077559668850827

https://x.com/RCamposDuffy/status/1864274779303498156

https://x.com/TomBevanRCP/status/1864310812975739351

[TSA]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:jmbrd5wbriodhjdutmh4bqug/bafkreifwtenkwha6umcihreys3mgjnal4fxkypc6hhdbel4wi xq527xei4@jpeg

https://x.com/alanhe/status/1864312506799308956

[TSA]

It doesn't worry Trump tards.

Also from red team: YOU'VE GOT NO REAL PROOF ONLY WITNESS TESTIMONY!!!!

Name one "witness" from the NBC story...I'll wait.

In the meantime...

https://x.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1864320555471564914

[Winehole23]

TSA running interference for Trump's terrible picks

[TSA]

Winehole23 caught once again spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation...I hope he gets the help he needs.

[TSA]

TSA running interference for Trump's terrible picks

There's already 30+ people on the record rebutting the anonymously sourced smear you're trying to push :rollin

[ChumpDumper]

Winehole23 caught once again spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation...I hope he gets the help he needs.

QAnon. It's in the name.

Did you get the help you needed?

[TSA]

QAnon. It's in the name.

Did you get the help you needed?

So NBC News is now on the same level of 4chan?

[ChumpDumper]

So NBC News is now on the same level of 4chan?No.They aren't LARPing like you were.

You didn't answer the question.

Did you get the help you needed after spreading anonymously sourced sears to further misinformation?

[TSA]

No.They aren't LARPing like you were.

You didn't answer the question.

Did you get the help you needed after spreading anonymously sourced sears to further misinformation?

You're trying to compare something I clearly presented as a conspiracy theory from 4chan to NBC news. You don't want to talk about the completely fabricated story NBC News ran...you just want to talk about me to deflect from it. This is your tired schtick. You're such a pussy :lol

[ChumpDumper]

You're trying to compare something I clearly presented as a conspiracy theory from 4chan to NBC news. You don't want to talk about the completely fabricated story NBC News ran...you just want to talk about me to deflect from it. This is your tired schtick. You're such a pussy :lol
You spread anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation. You believed the stuff Q was posting. You believed he was hanging outside Air Force One. Did you get the help you needed? Just answer. Don't be a pussy.

This NBC story isn't the worst one about this nominee so I don't really care about it. I don't see your defense for the other ones.

[TSA]

You spread anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation. You believed the stuff Q was posting. You believed he was hanging outside Air Force One. Did you get the help you needed? Just answer. Don't be a pussy.

This NBC story isn't the worst one about this nominee so I don't really care about it. I don't see your defense for the other ones.

You cared enough about it to try and deflect from it to make it about me. Get a new schtick.

[ChumpDumper]

You cared enough about it to try and deflect from it to make it about me. Get a new schtick.You explicitly made it about another poster. It's your shtick.

[TSA]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:oqr5mp25r7z3vfr3igeerxbw/bafkreidi2kac4lfmtd35f2uhcsolrwk2ls27uaz3tqn24gc3a gpmcu53oy@jpeg

https://x.com/jchristenson_/status/1864319446535512380

Shocker...Winehole23 caught again pushing more fake news.

[TSA]

You explicitly made it about another poster. It's your shtick.

I explicitly made it about what the other poster was posting concerning Trump's cabinet appointments aka the topic of the thread. You explicitly made it about me which had nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Until you get back on topic here you'll be ignored.

[ChumpDumper]

I explicitly made it about what the other poster was posting concerning Trump's cabinet appointments aka the topic of the thread. You explicitly made it about me which had nothing to do with the topic of the thread. Until you get back on topic here you'll be ignored.You accused him of spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation. It's something you have done and will obviously do in the future.

It's clear you didn't get the help you needed but claim others need.

You're a hypocrite and I will continue to call you out no matter how much of a pussy you are about it.

Hegseth ran two veterans' charities into the fucking ground. That hasn't been disputed. You think he should be fired up to SecDef. I disagree.

[TSA]

You accused him of spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation. It's something you have done and will obviously do in the future.

It's clear you didn't get the help you needed but claim others need.That was clearly a joke in reference to winehole saying he hoped Hegseth got the help he needed. You'd have caught that if you weren't frantically jumping from thread to thread smashing F5 and replying to every single poster.




Hegseth ran two veterans' charities into the fucking ground. That hasn't been disputed. You think he should be fired up to SecDef. I disagree.Hasn't been disputed? Look up :lol

[ChumpDumper]

That was clearly a joke in reference to winehole saying he hoped Hegseth got the help he needed. You'd have caught that if you weren't frantically jumping from thread to thread smashing F5 and replying to every single poster.:lol accusing him of spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation was jes jokes?

Is this funny on 8kun?


Hasn't been disputed? Look up :lol
So the charities weren't in the red?

Everything was great so he had to leave both for no reason? :lol

[TSA]

:lol accusing him of spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation was jes jokes?

Is this funny on 8kun?That wasn't the joke, and you are fucking dense.



So the charities weren't in the red?

Everything was great so he had to leave both for no reason? :lolCan't speak to the other organization but The New Yorker's claims about CVA are bullshit. Two former senior leaders at CVA and a trustee from CVA confirm this.


An essay published by The New Yorker on Monday claims that Pete Hegseth, President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of defense, “was forced to step down” as president of the advocacy group Concerned Veterans for America amid “serious allegations” of misconduct. We’re talking manhandling strippers, public drunkenness, lewd and obnoxious behavior—the kind of thing that would raise questions about someone slated to lead the Pentagon.

Except: In interviews with me, two former senior leaders of CVA have denied the “whistleblower” allegations against Hegseth. They insisted that he left the organization voluntarily, without any pressure bearing down on him from its funders. And unlike The New Yorker’s sources, one of Hegseth’s CVA defenders spoke on the record.

“I was there for most of those alleged incidents, and this stuff is just complete fabrications,” said Sean Parnell, a former US Army airborne ranger who retired as a captain with a Purple Heart and two Bronze Stars and served as a senior adviser at CVA during Hegseth’s tenure. Parnell asserted that the “whistleblower” claims had come from “people who were let go as the organization was growing, who weren’t fulfilling their duties. They just weren’t.”

“All false,” said a veteran of the Global War on Terror who served alongside Hegseth in a senior role at CVA. “These were false allegations made by a group of disgruntled employees fired by Pete.” In some cases, the CVA veteran said, the complainants attributed their own carousing to Hegseth.

Parnell and the second CVA veteran also rejected The New Yorker’s claim that Hegseth was forced out of his position at the organization owing to personal misconduct. “That couldn’t be further from the truth,” said Parnell. “This was right before President Trump began his first term. Pete and I were on the media all the time, talking about national security and foreign policy. And he and I became big believers in Trump’s vision of foreign policy. The funders of that organization [CVA] didn’t necessarily believe that. And because of that policy difference, over what America’s foreign and national-security policy should be, Pete parted ways. It was 100 percent professional, political differences.”

The New Yorker also suggested that Hegseth’s departure from CVA was abrupt, leaving him with no immediate job options. This also wasn’t true, Parnell told me. “He was a Fox News contributor,” he noted, and in negotiations to become a full-time anchor at the cable network. “ABC was interested in him, as well, if memory serves. So it wasn’t just Fox.”

The second CVA veteran echoed this characterization: “He left because his role on Fox was growing and he had a book deal. ‘Pete didn’t have another job lined up,’ the piece says, but very shortly after he left, he became a full-time Fox & Friends host.”

So why are establishment forces slinging so much mud at Hegseth? Said the second CVA veteran: “Pete believes that the wars we were involved in [after 9/11] were a disaster for us, for our armed forces, and for the people of those countries. Like a lot of veterans, he believes that he was lied to, and he believes he has to shake up the nat-sec complex. That’s why a lot of people are going after him.”

To be sure, Hegseth has yet to fully explain the evolution of his thinking on American security, from a War on Terror-era hawk to today’s more restrained view. And that’s the sort of thing lawmakers should focus on as they weigh his nomination—not decade-old personnel smears strenuously denied by his fellow veterans.

https://www.compactmag.com/article/smearing-pete-hegseth/

Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the shit at the wall they can and nothing is sticking. You a big fan of the MIC? You a war hawk?

[ChumpDumper]

That wasn't the joke, and you are fucking dense.Exactly. That was the accusation. You were dead serious about that and you tried to play it off as jes jokes. That's fucking dense.



Can't speak to the other organization but The New Yorker's claims about CVA are bullshit. Two former senior leaders at CVA and a trustee from CVA confirm this.


An essay published by The New Yorker on Monday claims that Pete Hegseth, President-elect Donald Trump’s nominee for secretary of defense, “was forced to step down” as president of the advocacy group Concerned Veterans for America amid “serious allegations” of misconduct. We’re talking manhandling strippers, public drunkenness, lewd and obnoxious behavior—the kind of thing that would raise questions about someone slated to lead the Pentagon.

Except: In interviews with me, two former senior leaders of CVA have denied the “whistleblower” allegations against Hegseth. They insisted that he left the organization voluntarily, without any pressure bearing down on him from its funders. And unlike The New Yorker’s sources, one of Hegseth’s CVA defenders spoke on the record.

“I was there for most of those alleged incidents, and this stuff is just complete fabrications,” said Sean Parnell, a former US Army airborne ranger who retired as a captain with a Purple Heart and two Bronze Stars and served as a senior adviser at CVA during Hegseth’s tenure. Parnell asserted that the “whistleblower” claims had come from “people who were let go as the organization was growing, who weren’t fulfilling their duties. They just weren’t.”

“All false,” said a veteran of the Global War on Terror who served alongside Hegseth in a senior role at CVA. “These were false allegations made by a group of disgruntled employees fired by Pete.” In some cases, the CVA veteran said, the complainants attributed their own carousing to Hegseth.

Parnell and the second CVA veteran also rejected The New Yorker’s claim that Hegseth was forced out of his position at the organization owing to personal misconduct. “That couldn’t be further from the truth,” said Parnell. “This was right before President Trump began his first term. Pete and I were on the media all the time, talking about national security and foreign policy. And he and I became big believers in Trump’s vision of foreign policy. The funders of that organization [CVA] didn’t necessarily believe that. And because of that policy difference, over what America’s foreign and national-security policy should be, Pete parted ways. It was 100 percent professional, political differences.”

The New Yorker also suggested that Hegseth’s departure from CVA was abrupt, leaving him with no immediate job options. This also wasn’t true, Parnell told me. “He was a Fox News contributor,” he noted, and in negotiations to become a full-time anchor at the cable network. “ABC was interested in him, as well, if memory serves. So it wasn’t just Fox.”

The second CVA veteran echoed this characterization: “He left because his role on Fox was growing and he had a book deal. ‘Pete didn’t have another job lined up,’ the piece says, but very shortly after he left, he became a full-time Fox & Friends host.”

So why are establishment forces slinging so much mud at Hegseth? Said the second CVA veteran: “Pete believes that the wars we were involved in [after 9/11] were a disaster for us, for our armed forces, and for the people of those countries. Like a lot of veterans, he believes that he was lied to, and he believes he has to shake up the nat-sec complex. That’s why a lot of people are going after him.”

To be sure, Hegseth has yet to fully explain the evolution of his thinking on American security, from a War on Terror-era hawk to today’s more restrained view. And that’s the sort of thing lawmakers should focus on as they weigh his nomination—not decade-old personnel smears strenuously denied by his fellow veterans.

https://www.compactmag.com/article/smearing-pete-hegseth/

Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the shit at the wall they can and nothing is sticking. You a big fan of the MIC? You a war hawk?
I don't see anything refuting the claims about the money.

Do you find that strange or just an innocent oversight by the people defending Hegseth?

Dude thinks he's a modern day crusader against Muslims. He's not anti-war.

[TSA]

Exactly. That was the accusation. You were dead serious about that and you tried to play it off as jes jokes. That's fucking dense.I never tried to play anything off as just jokes...you've created this in your own mind.


hope he gets the help he needs

Pete Hegseth's drinking worried colleagues at Fox News, sources tell NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pete-hegseths-drinking-worried-colleagues-fox-news-sources-tell-nbc-ne-rcna181471)


Winehole23 caught once again spreading anonymously sourced smears to further misinformation...I hope he gets the help he needs.

You're dense.


I don't see anything refuting the claims about the money.

Do you find that strange or just an innocent oversight by the people defending Hegseth?

Dude thinks he's a modern day crusader against Muslims. He's not anti-war.No one from CVA said he was let go for the claims about money.


Everything was great so he had to leave both for no reason?

You asked for the reason he left CVA and you were given the reason by a trustee and two senior leaders at CVA. Sorry the reason doesn't fit the story you want to believe :cry

Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the shit at the wall they can and nothing is sticking. You a big fan of the MIC? You a war hawk?

[TSA]

Name one "witness" from the NBC story...I'll wait.

In the meantime...

https://x.com/PhilipWegmann/status/1864320555471564914

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864398304076829174

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864397838748184598

Come on Blake...just name one

[TSA]

You think he should be fired up to SecDef. I disagree.You just haven't had a nice sit down with him yet. You'll come around eventually.

https://x.com/mboyle1/status/1864403876356534729

[TSA]

You just haven't had a nice sit down with him yet. You'll come around eventually.

https://x.com/mboyle1/status/1864403876356534729

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864402699090837634

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864401912944046431

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864400698009370773

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864399983094407345

[ChumpDumper]

I never tried to play anything off as just jokes...you've created this in your own mind.So you agree you weren't joking. OK, why did that take you so long?


No one from CVA said he was let go for the claims about money.
So the finances were great for both charities in your opinion? They sure don't look great. They look pretty bad. My conspiracy theory is that the finances were indeed one reason he was pressured to leave both charities and fair evidence that he sucks at running things.


Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the shit at the wall they can and nothing is sticking. You a big fan of the MIC? You a war hawk?Which higher ups?

What gravy train?

Please flesh out your conspiracy theory. Don't be so vague and try to stop making it all about other posters.

[TSA]

https://x.com/gekaminsky/status/1864404632979542196

FAFO

[TSA]

So you agree you weren't joking. OK, why did that take you so long?


So the finances were great for both charities in your opinion? They sure don't look great. They look pretty bad. My conspiracy theory is that the finances were indeed one reason he was pressured to leave both charities and fair evidence that he sucks at running things.

Which higher ups?

What gravy train?

Please flesh out your conspiracy theory. Don't be so vague and try to stop making it all about other posters.

You just haven't had a nice sit down with him yet. You'll come around eventually.

PS-you still didn't get the joke

[ChumpDumper]

You just haven't had a nice sit down with him yet. You'll come around eventually.Man, you are ducking questions left and right. You were so confident when Trump won.


PS-you still didn't get the jokeThe joke is your distinct inability to pick a lane.

[SnakeBoy]

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864402699090837634

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864401912944046431

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864400698009370773

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864399983094407345

Pete might just survive with so many good people coming to his defense. I thought he was toast.

[Winehole23]

Pete might just survive with so many good people coming to his defense. I thought he was toast.Hegseth's mom went on Fox today, and I hear she's calling Senators personally.

[TSA]

Hegseth's mom went on Fox today, and I hear she's calling Senators personally.

Did you really wait for your bullshit to get pushed to a previous page and then pop in here like nothing happened? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Did you really wait for your bullshit to get pushed to a previous page and then pop in here like nothing happened? :lol

Which higher ups?

What gravy train?

Please flesh out your conspiracy theory. Don't be so vague and try to stop making it all about other posters.

[Winehole23]

Did you really wait for your bullshit to get pushed to a previous page and then pop in here like nothing happened? :lolnothing happened, tbh

[ChumpDumper]

Did you really wait for your bullshit to get pushed to a previous page and then pop in here like nothing happened? :lol

Dude, you never mentioned this guy's mom.

Why not?

[Spurs Homer]

Idk but if I had a say I would let every one of these picks get confirmed unimpeded. Every single one. The people who voted for Trump says everything was better under Trump. So let all of these picks get confirmation and when it all crashes and burns then oh well…. He won so give the people what they want at this point is my mindset

Exactly what ive been saying...

I mean why go thru the pearl clutching and resistance every other day and allow trump to just yank everyone's chains with his nonstop-flood -the-zone with shit fuckery and criminality and treason and dictating the narrative while he loots the treasury?

just let him destroy the entire govt in service to russia...

this is what he is aiming to do anyway - destroy the usa from within under his mandate from putin

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/gekaminsky/status/1864404632979542196

FAFO

Let's absolutely take this to trial. Discovery will be wild.

[TSA]

nothing happened, tbh

You're right...posting anonymously sourced fake news smears is your thing.

[Winehole23]

You're right...posting anonymously sourced fake news smears is your thing.anonymously sourced =/= false

there's corroboration from Hegseth's days leading charities, y'all just have really low standards or really high gullibility

[TSA]

anonymously sourced =/= false

there's corroboration from Hegseth's days leading charities, y'all just have really low standards or really high gullibility

Zero corroboration from CVA and 2 senior leaders and a board trustee from CVA rebutted the New Yorker story.

Have you already forgotten about the anonymously sourced NBC story you were pushing that was immediately disputed by 30+ people on the record who worked with Hegseth? Seems you are the one with really low standards or high gullibility.

[TSA]

Higher ups in the MIC know their gravy train ends if he gets the position and they are throwing all the shit at the wall they can and nothing is sticking.

https://x.com/Johnny_Joey/status/1864710556587851912

"I fought in Iraq and Afghanistan. I carried a TS SCI and secret service credentials. My responsibility was to have an answer for any technology or device limited only by the imagination of the bomb maker. The longer our war went, the simpler the bombs got.. the simpler they got, the more effective they were. I watched wave upon wave of new radio systems, radar systems, detection devices, uniforms, and reinventions of vehicles with 4 wheels and a motor. I witnessed the Osprey debacle and F35 money pit. I heard time and time again “use it or lose it” referring to carelessly expending ammo and explosives to justify the same allotment the next fiscal year.

If @LindseyGrahamSC has “concerns” about @PeteHegseth it’s a concern that he may stop the self-feeding snake that is the northern Virginia defense industrial complex from robbing us blind with our own blood. It’s that Pete may prove that the fight in the warrior is infinitely more valuable on the battlefield than the price of his gear. He may have concerns that a warless United States jeopardizes his friend’s yachts and trust funds.

But he has NO CONCERN over Pete’s character. I guarantee you that!"

[TSA]

anonymously sourced =/= false

there's corroboration from Hegseth's days leading charities, y'all just have really low standards or really high gullibility

https://x.com/SeanParnellUSA/status/1864661014928666768

[TSA]

Pete might just survive with so many good people coming to his defense. I thought he was toast.

https://x.com/willcain/status/1864353888520044745

[TSA]

hope he gets the help he needs

Pete Hegseth's drinking worried colleagues at Fox News, sources tell NBC News (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/pete-hegseths-drinking-worried-colleagues-fox-news-sources-tell-nbc-ne-rcna181471)

https://x.com/DecodingFoxNews/status/1864512603046764649

"I provide receipts" :lmao

[ChumpDumper]

Are you going to attack his mother or claim she got the help she needed?

[ChumpDumper]

You're right...posting anonymously sourced fake news smears is your thing.

It's absolutely your thing too. The proof is right under your screen name.:lol

[Winehole23]

Receipts for what, getting brainwashed

[Winehole23]

"he's a good person, c'mon"

[Winehole23]

talk about the soft bigotry of no expectations

[ChumpDumper]

"he's a good person, c'mon"

His mom thought he was a piece of shit. Receipts.

[SnakeBoy]

but his mommy said :cry

[Winehole23]

lol mom running interference

[Winehole23]

maybe the whole point was to appoint a shitshow like Hegseth to boss around the armed forces of the US

[Winehole23]

keep everyone else on their toes

[Winehole23]

Would DeSantis run for SECDEF? Dunno.

I just don't see Joni Ernst, either.

But if DeSantis accepted that would be objectively much worse than Pete Hegseth. DeSantis knows his way around government and US armed forces. DeSantis is also objectively evil-er than the relatively professionally lightweight Hegseth.

SECDEF is generally outside the public eye and bureau-bound, that dovetails with DeSantis's best-known weakness, lack of personability.

But the ability to get along with the great man has always been questioned: can DeSantis reenter loyalty to Trump successfully?

So far DeSantis's name has only "been discussed"

[SnakeBoy]

1864438967585943722

1864448802695807245

[ChumpDumper]

but his mommy said :cry

So you think she lied?

[Winehole23]

jes regular folks


At least 11 picks for strategic positions after Trump returns to the White House in January have either achieved billionaire status themselves, have billionaire spouses or are within touching distance of that threshold.

The net result will be the wealthiest administration in US history – worth a total of $340bn at the start of this week, before Trump further boosted its monetary value by trying to appoint at least three more billionaires.

Its collective wealth easily outstrips that of Trump’s first cabinet, formed after his 2016 election victory – which at the time was the richest US cabinet ever formed, containing such super-rich members as Rex Tillerson, the former chief executive of ExxonMobil, who was appointed secretary of state, and Wilbur Ross, the commerce secretary, who had become wealthy through restructuring bankrupt companies.

It also throws into stark relief the relative impoverishment of the current cabinet of Joe Biden – collectively worth a relatively paltry $118m (https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/transition/the-billionaires-of-trumps-proposed-administration/) despite having been repeatedly derided by Trump as representative of a corrupt governing elite that was cheating ordinary working Americans.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/dec/06/trump-us-cabinet-billionaires

[TSA]

anonymously sourced =/= false

there's corroboration from Hegseth's days leading charities, y'all just have really low standards or really high gullibility

I (Mark Lucas) served as the executive director of Concerned Veterans for America (CVA), succeeding Hegseth, who brought this group to national prominence. Contrary to media reports based on anonymous sources, I can confirm that Hegseth was not fired. It was common knowledge within CVA that he was going to Fox News. This is nothing more than another tired media attack from an apparatus hell-bent on destroying his nomination.

The media have falsely portrayed CVA as a dysfunctional organization under Hegseth’s leadership, but the executive team and strategy I inherited from him were world-class. The proof is in the policy victories we helped President Trump deliver for veterans by reforming the Department of Veterans Affairs in 2017 and 2018.


https://thefederalist.com/2024/12/06/pete-hegseth-will-make-the-pentagon-great-again/

[ChumpDumper]

Still haven't decided whether to attack his mother, eh?

[Winehole23]

peer group opinions for and against


“There are plenty of us who realize Pete Hegseth is an alcoholic talk weenie with zero qualifications to lead DOD aside from popping up regularly in Trump’s hours of daily television consumption,” said Dan Barkhuff, a former SEAL officer.


Hegseth is “an abusive sex pest with no qualifications,” said Dave Madden, another former SEAL officer. “Frogmen speaking in his favor is just another indicator of a deeply broken culture.”


The SEAL rally for Hegseth reflects the cultural shifts in the Naval Special Warfare community that began with the publication of Lone Survivor (https://theiceman.substack.com/p/marcus-luttrell-comes-clean-about) and accelerated after the SEAL Team Six raid that killed Osama bin Laden. Once seen as “quiet professionals,” former Navy special operators now hawk books, supplements, and energy drinks and run for Congress with the SEAL Trident on their campaign bus (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/16/us/politics/ryan-zinke-navy-seal.html).
https://theiceman.substack.com/p/ex-seals-to-rally-in-dc-for-pete

[Winehole23]

The petition has so far gathered over 2,500 signatures from veterans, supporters, and former SEALS, including Higbie, Blackwater USA founder Erik Price, podcast host Shawn Ryan, and journalist Kaj Larsen.

[SnakeBoy]

Oh shit Blackwater doesn't approve

[SnakeBoy]

lol Whinehole pallin around with Cheney and Blackwater

[ChumpDumper]

Oh shit Blackwater doesn't approve


lol Whinehole pallin around with Cheney and Blackwater

The petition signed by Prince is in favor of Hagseth's nomination.

That's an impressive display of low information, snacks.

lol

[Winehole23]

The petition signed by Prince is in favor of Hagseth's nomination.

That's an impressive display of low information, snacks.

lolreading and writing aren't his thing

[SnakeBoy]

reading and writing aren't his thing

My bad, didn't read it. I stand corrected, your only pallin around with Cheney.

[Winehole23]

My bad, didn't read it. I stand corrected, your only pallin around with Cheney.not really

I would say you have an active fantasy life

[Winehole23]

I posted a yea and a nay from the post, you can't really ask me to be more evenhanded to Hegseth, he's a perfectly horrible candidate.

Unresolved alcoholism and philandering used to be considered disqualifying (pace John Tower), I guess times have changed.

[Winehole23]

Two charities wouldn't have him. Alcoholism and philandering.

Also, bad with money.

Appoint to DOD?

Y

[Winehole23]

why would you not?

"he's good people"

[HemisfairArena]

I posted a yea and a nay from the post, you can't really ask me to be more evenhanded to Hegseth, he's a perfectly horrible candidate.

Unresolved alcoholism and philandering used to be considered disqualifying (pace John Tower), I guess times have changed.

When you democrats supported Merrick Garland for attorney general,,,,then it was anything goes,,,,,,now its our turn,,,,,and now you democrats dont like it,,,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

When you democrats supported Merrick Garland for attorney general,,,,then it was anything goes,,,,,,now its our turn,,,,,and now you democrats dont like it,,,,,,It's your fault you voted for a felon.

That's on you.

[HemisfairArena]

It's your fault you voted for a felon.

That's on you.

You lost because of your party's pathetic picks and governing to that felon,,,,,,what does that say about you?,,,,

[ChumpDumper]

You lost because of your party's pathetic picks and governing to that felon,,,,,,what does that say about you?,,,,

Nah, it was inflation and not following through with the aid started during COVID. Pretty simple.

[HemisfairArena]

Nah, it was inflation and not following through with the aid started during COVID. Pretty simple.

False,,,inflation,,,immigration,,,and weaponizing the DOJ,,,,,,was it,,,,pretty simple.