Future Spur: Dylan Harper

[daslicer]

I honestly think his floor is pre-knee injury Ron Harper, who was an extremely solid player. That’s good news.

I disagree pre-injury Ron Harper was a super athlete. Surprisingly he doesn't have the out of this world athleticism his father had.

[CGD]

Spurs trying to move up from 14 makes more sense. Wonder if it's Knueppel they're targeting tbh. Or who else it may be.

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PG13 incoming in 3, 2, 1

[BacktoBasics]

PG13 incoming in 3, 2, 1

Probably cheaper than Durant. But in no way do I want to come off of 2.

[CGD]

Probably cheaper than Durant. But in no way do I want to come off of 2.

I was responding to the part about 14 being in the mix. Seems unlikely but if the Sixers are indeed desperate to get off PG13 would Vassell/Barnes/14 get you up to 3?

[goliath]

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Don Harris posts an interview with the owner today and then follows it up with twitter posts claiming the spurs are taking Harper

[Ice009]

I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Don Harris posts an interview with the owner today and then follows it up with twitter posts claiming the spurs are taking Harper

Doesn't really mean anything. It still could go either way. Could be the truth or could be a smokescreen. None of us know what is going on behind the scenes, really.


Shams reported Wemby is 100% weeks ago. He has already been cleared for basketball activities

Yes, I know. I want more than anything for Victor to be fully healthy going forward, but until he plays and I/we see it's all good, still a little bit apprehensive about it. Hearing that report, though, definitely made me feel better.

[BatManu20]

I disagree pre-injury Ron Harper was a super athlete. Surprisingly he doesn't have the out of this world athleticism his father had.

That's because his other parent is Filipino lol. His mother's genetics are holding him back athletically tbh.

[Ice009]

That's because his other parent is Filipino lol. His mother's genetics are holding him back athletically tbh.

I was going to post that as the reason ;), but I certainly did not want to take a shot at any Filipino fans/friends.

[daslicer]

That's because his other parent is Filipino lol. His mother's genetics are holding him back athletically tbh.

You read my mind lol I was thinking the same exact thing. He got his dad's height and got his mom's athleticism.

[ambchang]

Have you guys ever seen Fillipinos play ball? They are the quickest mofos out there. Crazy handles too.

[exstatic]

Fine takes but once again you dodge the question. If we knew Wemby was 100% fine, would you do that deal?

And while we are at it, who would you take with the 3 pick? And no saying Harper falling to 3 that’s cheating.

You keep stone walling while I was legitimately interested to get your opinion.

I don’t deal in hypotheticals. He apparently hasn’t been cleared for EuroBasket yet.

I am not going to hand Daryl Morey the next James Harden, either. The man has a lot of flaws. He treats players like a video game. He mishandled the Simmons situation. He mishandled the Harden situation. One thing is for sure though: the man knows and understands talent. That is undeniable. He saw Harden the finished product through the lense of a 3rd year player who was mostly a sixth man. If he wants Harper, I want Harper.

Let me make this clear. I am not interested in trading Dylan Harper for anything I’ve heard in the run up to the draft. Nothing. Not even Giannis. No veteran players. No tradebacks.

[mo7888]

I don’t deal in hypotheticals. He apparently hasn’t been cleared for EuroBasket yet.

I am not going to hand Daryl Morey the next James Harden, either. The man has a lot of flaws. He treats players like a video game. He mishandled the Simmons situation. He mishandled the Harden situation. One thing is for sure though: the man knows and understands talent. That is undeniable. He saw Harden the finished product through the lense of a 3rd year player who was mostly a sixth man. If he wants Harper, I want Harper.

Let me make this clear. I am not interested in trading Dylan Harper for anything I’ve heard in the run up to the draft. Nothing. Not even Giannis. No veteran players. No tradebacks.

I really think all tne Philly talk about #3 is us exploring options to move up...not down... I might not like it, but I could definitely see them attaching #3 to offload PG if we don't go the KD route.... it just feels more 'due diligence' on move up options instead of us trading #2 for #3 + mid picks

[Seventyniner]

Shams reported Wemby is 100% weeks ago. He has already been cleared for basketball activities

I think the point was that with a DVT scare already and Wemby's unique body type, he has a higher-than-average chance of his career being cut short by something out of the blue. Being able to draft another potential franchise-level player shouldn't be passed up on just because we already have Wemby. I am firmly in the just pick Harper and keep him camp.

[rascal]

Let me make this clear. I am not interested in trading Dylan Harper for anything I’ve heard in the run up to the draft. Nothing. Not even Giannis. No veteran players. No tradebacks.

Agree

Spurs have their two cornerstone franchise players in Wemby and Harper. It took incredible luck to land both and you don't trade that luck away for role players/ future unknown draft picks.

[rascal]

Have you guys ever seen Fillipinos play ball? They are the quickest mofos out there. Crazy handles too.

But can they jump?

[BatManu20]

Zion and TMIII for #2. Who says no tbh.

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[sfernald]

Alright swap the 2 for 3 + 4 first round picks? I just think it’s odd that everyone thinks Harper is priceless when he doesn’t even have a jump shot and hasn’t played a down in the league yet.

BTW I’m fine with the pick of Harper I just think it’s interesting to think about what if with two more weeks to kill until maybe we finally know.

im absolutely fine with discussing. I just have strong personal feelings on it. I really hope the front office doesn’t go this way. I think it hits a nerve with a lot of people on here, which is fine. We just have to deal with it and hope for the best.

[AFBlue]

Zion and TMIII for #2. Who says no tbh.

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The Spurs. No way they take on Zion with his current legal troubles, injury history and questionable work ethic. I can't think of a more anti-Spur, don't care how "buy low" he might be.

[picnroll]

So have more teams asked the Spurs for the 2 pick or the Knicks asked more teams for their head coach now?

[TheBallsbreakers]

That's because his other parent is Filipino lol. His mother's genetics are holding him back athletically tbh.
Us Noypis catching strays... dafuq, mang.

[RC_Drunkford]

PG13 incoming in 3, 2, 1

that contract would actually have the same length as KD's. It's just that it's podcast P and not KD. If they send the #3 with him, I'd probably do it :lol


Zion and TMIII for #2. Who says no tbh.

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give me Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, Jose Alvarado and some Bucks picks and we have a deal

[John B]

But can they jump?

Ask Jordan Clarkson and Jalen Green. They’re both half-Filipinos.

[BacktoBasics]

I was responding to the part about 14 being in the mix. Seems unlikely but if the Sixers are indeed desperate to get off PG13 would Vassell/Barnes/14 get you up to 3?

I don’t think it gets you to 3 however if the Pelicans want to move up without taking PG it could get us to 7 with assets going to Philly.

[Ice009]

that contract would actually have the same length as KD's. It's just that it's podcast P and not KD. If they send the #3 with him, I'd probably do it :lol



give me Trey Murphy, Herb Jones, Jose Alvarado and some Bucks picks and we have a deal

I've wanted PG since Kawhi was on the team, and would have still wanted him up until the start of last season. Not sure about it anymore, though. Not sure if had a down year and can bounce back, but if he can't, I'd actually be interested in that if they also got the number 3.
I don't know, this sh#ts getting crazy as I don't want to trade the 2nd pick, but now I'm getting caught up in the scenarios like a lot of other posters here.


I don’t think it gets you to 3 however if the Pelicans want to move up without taking PG it could get us to 7 with assets going to Philly.

You don't think they'd do it if it meant getting off of PG's contract?


Ask Jordan Clarkson and Jalen Green. They’re both half-Filipinos.

Darn, good point. I forgot those guys are half Filipino. Jalen Green can definitely get up there.
With Filipinos I am guessing it's more height that is the issue not so much athleticism, but more so height/size. Would you say that's correct? I only know a few Filipinos here where I live and they're pretty short.

[John B]

I've wanted PG since Kawhi was on the team, and would have still wanted him up until the start of last season. Not sure about it anymore, though. Not sure if had a down year and can bounce back, but if he can't, I'd actually be interested in that if they also got the number 3.
I don't know, this sh#ts getting crazy as I don't want to trade the 2nd pick, but now I'm getting caught up in the scenarios like a lot of other posters here.



You don't think they'd do it if it meant getting off of PG's contract?



Darn, good point. I forgot those guys are half Filipino. Jalen Green can definitely get up there.
With Filipinos I am guessing it's more height that is the issue not so much athleticism, but more so height/size. Would you say that's correct? I only know a few Filipinos here where I live and they're pretty short.

With today’s nutrition, equipments and training know-how, everybody can train to jump a little higher (well most everybody). It’s not surprising to see players dunking in the game, when you rarely see 20 years ago.
https://youtu.be/s8ICNCJFDRc?si=uWU3aQQosNfQjiVA

[Ice009]

Wow, those verticals are impressive. Those guys can sky. Are there any tall Filipino players these days? What would be the average height if you had to guess. I feel height is what might hold back a lot of these guys from making it big (getting drafted to the NBA as a pure Filipino).
I assume there is also some pretty good shooters in the Filipino leagues?

[spurraider21]

Probably cheaper than Durant. But in no way do I want to come off of 2.
of course he'd be cheaper than durant. right now he looks like one of the worst contracts in the NBA, along with his own teammate. philly would have to attach assets to move him right now

[mo7888]

I was responding to the part about 14 being in the mix. Seems unlikely but if the Sixers are indeed desperate to get off PG13 would Vassell/Barnes/14 get you up to 3?

I think they'll consider it. It might not be the best long-term option for them, but short-term it might be better and Morey is a short-term guy.

[scottspurs]

Dylan Harper was in San Antonio this past week visiting the Spurs. Stop all the nonsense. Cooper Flagg #1, Dylan Harper #2.

76ers you are on the clock

[Knoxxx]

It actually shouldn’t. The most valuable contract in the NBA is a top prospect on a rookie deal. Maximizing payroll value is critical in today’s second apron NBA. You shouldn’t trade one of those value contracts for an already expensive veteran. You also don’t trade down for one or more lesser players. That’s the old “surely two 10 point scorers are the same as a 20 point scorer” trope.

You know I noticed an ass hat habit on here and you are a repeat culprit. Someone posts 100 sentences and you bold the one single sentence and pointedly undermine it. What about the other 99 sentences? You didn’t agree with a single one of those and can’t throw the poster a single bone? Like I do agree with that part…

[exstatic]

You know I noticed an ass hat habit on here and you are a repeat culprit. Someone posts 100 sentences and you bold the one single sentence and pointedly undermine it. What about the other 99 sentences? You didn’t agree with a single one of those and can’t throw the poster a single bone? Like I do agree with that part…

Look, you annoy me probably at least as much. I’m just really not interested in trading #2, yet you keep proposing new trades to me.

I don’t like to play what if, or deal in hypotheticals, but you also keep proposing those, too.

Here’s my bottom line: I want for SA to pick and keep Harper.

Peace out, player, and have a good day.

[sfernald]

Dylan Harper fans should listen to this from Seth Greenberg. He really knows his shit. Listen to his description of Harper at about the 8 minutes mark. His description of Ace Bailey before that point is actually pretty funny in an I wouldn’t touch with a ten foot pole way.

This is the shit that gets me excited.


https://youtu.be/xyJ7p1hdjas?si=cYPXWGyspxC6_xxH

[rascal]

Harper and Flagg are in the same tier to me. Level 1 tier from this draft.
Most have Harper in tier two, I don't.

Both will be players you can build around. And you can see by all the interest from other teams they also view Harper as a team building cornerstone.

Spurs now have a player on the frontline and one in the backcourt as their foundation to build around.

[SpursGenius]

Harper and Flagg are in the same tier to me. Level 1 tier from this draft.
Most have Harper in tier two, I don't.

Both will be players you can build around. And you can see by all the interest from other teams they also view Harper as a team building cornerstone.

Spurs now have a player on the frontline and one in the backcourt as their foundation to build around.
absolutely agree

[Mr. Body]

Harper and Flagg are in the same tier to me. Level 1 tier from this draft.
Most have Harper in tier two, I don't.

Both will be players you can build around. And you can see by all the interest from other teams they also view Harper as a team building cornerstone.

Spurs now have a player on the frontline and one in the backcourt as their foundation to build around.

This is why Dallas is going to cause pandemonium when they take Harper #1 next week.

[exstatic]

This is why Dallas is going to cause pandemonium when they take Harper #1 next week.

It’s actually better for both teams if they do it, but they’ll be either too dumb or too gun shy of further criticism to pull the trigger.

[cutewizard]

Wow, those verticals are impressive. Those guys can sky. Are there any tall Filipino players these days? What would be the average height if you had to guess. I feel height is what might hold back a lot of these guys from making it big (getting drafted to the NBA as a pure Filipino).
I assume there is also some pretty good shooters in the Filipino leagues?

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Greetings good Sir!

Since I am a Filipino, i will try to see if i can answer these queries.....

Increasingly, there are some tall Filipino players lately, some are featured in the Gilas Pilipinas national team.....

Examples, would be perennial Filipino league (PBA) MVP Junmar Fajardo (6'10)......Japeth Aguilar (6'11") and Kai Sotto (7'3")

Kai Sotto, in particular, since he is still young, has a wish to be drafted in the NBA, which would make him the very first official full blooded Filipino cager to have that honor

Can he do it? I dont know, he seems to be injury-prone, though he is thriving under excellent Coach Tim Cone (an American)

I feel height is what might hold back a lot of these guys from making it big (getting drafted to the NBA as a pure Filipino). >> this is correct good Sir

..............there are some pretty good shooters too, and the skill level is high....but our collective height really prevents us from dominating in Asia....

During the early years of the PBA, we were dominant.....but no longer after the legendary coached NCC national team.....coached by Ron Jacobs

that national team had super shooter Allan Caidic (if Allan was 6'8, he could compete with the best shooters in the NBA)...

by the way, Chip Engelland himself was part of that team, among others......

So there.....

If there are other active Filipinos here, you may correct me for errors, and add, thanks

Salamat po (thank you).

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D6KfoCtWSZ0

[SupremeGuy]

It’s actually better for both teams if they do it, but they’ll be either too dumb or too gun shy of further criticism to pull the trigger.It makes too much sense.

I saw someone on here make a post about how the basketball Gods would mock us by continuing to give us lottery picks only for the BPA to always be a PG lol

[goliath]

Simmons and Russillo talked about the Spurs, #2 and Harper on the latest BS podcast.

Rusillo said no team in the league would trade down from #2 to #3 in this draft.

Both said no to a #2 for #5, Lauri Markeden and “other stuff” trade with Utah.

Both said they would rather #2 than Jaren Jackson and both said they would draft Harper and build everything else around Wemby, Harper and probably Castle

[Degoat]

Simmons and Russillo talked about the Spurs, #2 and Harper on the latest BS podcast.

Rusillo said no team in the league would trade down from #2 to #3 in this draft.

Both said no to a #2 for #5, Lauri Markeden and “other stuff” trade with Utah.

Both said they would rather #2 than Jaren Jackson and both said they would draft Harper and build everything else around Wemby, Harper and probably Castle

The hype around Harper is wild!!! Been seeing more and more people saying they wouldn’t trade #2 for anything other than Giannis, I can’t wait to see him in a spurs uniform!

[SpursFan86]

The hype around Harper is wild!!! Been seeing more and more people saying they wouldn’t trade #2 for anything other than Giannis, I can’t wait to see him in a spurs uniform!

I said it in a different thread, but I really feel like Harper is being undervalued by people because this happens to be a class with another insane prospect in Flagg. If this were last year’s class, Harper would be the hands down #1 pick and no one would be talking about all of these different trade scenarios. It would pretty much be a given that whoever has the top pick is selecting Harper and not entertaining trade offers.

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdGD9j22zDc

[jmard5]

Are there any tall Filipino players these days?

The Philippines has a few tall players, but not quite NBA ready.

[cutewizard]

Discussing Harper around the 28:51 mark..............

[Ice009]

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Greetings good Sir!

Since I am a Filipino, i will try to see if i can answer these queries.....

Increasingly, there are some tall Filipino players lately, some are featured in the Gilas Pilipinas national team.....

Examples, would be perennial Filipino league (PBA) MVP Junmar Fajardo (6'10)......Japeth Aguilar (6'11") and Kai Sotto (7'3")

Kai Sotto, in particular, since he is still young, has a wish to be drafted in the NBA, which would make him the very first official full blooded Filipino cager to have that honor

Can he do it? I dont know, he seems to be injury-prone, though he is thriving under excellent Coach Tim Cone (an American)

I feel height is what might hold back a lot of these guys from making it big (getting drafted to the NBA as a pure Filipino). >> this is correct good Sir

..............there are some pretty good shooters too, and the skill level is high....but our collective height really prevents us from dominating in Asia....

During the early years of the PBA, we were dominant.....but no longer after the legendary coached NCC national team.....coached by Ron Jacobs

that national team had super shooter Allan Caidic (if Allan was 6'8, he could compete with the best shooters in the NBA)...

by the way, Chip Engelland himself was part of that team, among others......

So there.....

If there are other active Filipinos here, you may correct me for errors, and add, thanks

Salamat po (thank you).

Thanks for the post. Very interesting to hear. I hope one day soon to see a full blooded Filipino in the NBA. I have read that Filipinos have a huge passion for basketball. My friend visited there years ago and told me that when he came back.

I figured there'd be some very skilled Filipino players (especially shooters), but I thought height might be holding them back from really making the NBA. Hopefully one of those guys you mentioned can make it, or at least get drafted such as the guy you mentioned - Kai Sotto. Hopefully he can stay healthy and keep improving.

Completely forgot about Chip being in the Philippines. I remember reading something about that years ago. He actually played in the Philippines league didn't he?


The Philippines has a few tall players, but not quite NBA ready.

Yeah, good to know there is at least a few taller players with potential. I think that would give them a better chance of making it.

From a couple of the videos I saw, Dylan Harper doesn't really seem to know much about his Filipino heritage. Seems like he's completely Americanised on his father's side of the family even with his mom being his primary parent (I guess she's been in the US since a young age too).

[exstatic]

The hype around Harper is wild!!! Been seeing more and more people saying they wouldn’t trade #2 for anything other than Giannis, I can’t wait to see him in a spurs uniform!

He’s a really high level prospect to begin with, and then you factor in the father factor. Sons of NBA players almost never bust, and in fact usually hit their higher outcomes. Just look at Jalen Brunson for one example. Short, no real lift, I think he dunked like once or twice in 3 college years, not very quick, doesn’t generate steals. The reason he fell to the second round is that is normally considered a bust profile. Daddy Rick was probably working with him since age six. Good coaching, not that AAU nonsense.

[rascal]

Dylan Harper was in San Antonio this past week visiting the Spurs. Stop all the nonsense. Cooper Flagg #1, Dylan Harper #2.

76ers you are on the clock

The Spurs want to make sure about Harper as the 2 pick. It is a cause for concern they felt the need to go to NJ to meet with his family. They know the importance of getting this pick right.
They want to get a positive feel about drafting Harper as they like his talent but they also want the intangibles to line up.

I'm sure they laid out the future plans they see for Harper and they wanted to see how Harper and his family felt about it. Hopefully they put to rest any concerns Harper or his family had about the fit with the Spurs.
It's going to be interesting what we hear from Harper or Harper senior in the next few days about the Spurs drafting Harper.

[Ice009]

The Spurs went to NJ to meet with his family? I hadn't heard this. When was this?

[Uriel]

Where would Dylan Harper have been selected in the last 15 NBA Drafts?

[Mr. Body]

The Spurs want to make sure about Harper as the 2 pick. It is a cause for concern they felt the need to go to NJ to meet with his family. They know the importance of getting this pick right.
They want to get a positive feel about drafting Harper as they like his talent but they also want the intangibles to line up.

I'm sure they laid out the future plans they see for Harper and they wanted to see how Harper and his family felt about it. Hopefully they put to rest any concerns Harper or his family had about the fit with the Spurs.
It's going to be interesting what we hear from Harper or Harper senior in the next few days about the Spurs drafting Harper.

Not sure it's a cause for concern. Pop visited Duncan in the VI when he was drafted. I think they went out to Paris when Vic was drafted. They like to get close to their top picks, it seems. If anything it shows a very high commitment to Harper.

[KDKSpurs24]

Not sure it's a cause for concern. Pop visited Duncan in the VI when he was drafted. I think they went out to Paris when Vic was drafted. They like to get close to their top picks, it seems. If anything it shows a very high commitment to Harper.
Exactly what I was going to say.

[Ice009]

Not sure it's a cause for concern. Pop visited Duncan in the VI when he was drafted. I think they went out to Paris when Vic was drafted. They like to get close to their top picks, it seems. If anything it shows a very high commitment to Harper.

Wasn't visiting TD after he was drafted? Same with Victor? Did the Spurs meet either of those guys beforehand to talk with them? I can't remember.

[LeBowen]

Where would Dylan Harper have been selected in the last 15 NBA Drafts?

#1 in 2024
#2, maybe #3 in 2023
#1 to #4 in 2022, not really sure.
#2 in 2021
#1 to #3 in 2020
#2 in 2019

I'm too lazy to do the rest since 2018 was a complete fuckup by multiple GMs.

[Ariel]

Examples, would be perennial Filipino league (PBA) MVP Junmar Fajardo (6'10)......Japeth Aguilar (6'11") and Kai Sotto (7'3")

Kai Sotto, in particular, since he is still young, has a wish to be drafted in the NBA, which would make him the very first official full blooded Filipino cager to have that honor

Can he do it? I dont know, he seems to be injury-prone, though he is thriving under excellent Coach Tim Cone (an American)
Kai Sotto went undrafted a few years ago, going into YouTube or Twitter you had to go through a flood of clips/posts about him. He's been off the radar since then, he's still young I guess but he can sign as a free agent if any team has interest.

[Mnky]

He’s a really high level prospect to begin with, and then you factor in the father factor. Sons of NBA players almost never bust, and in fact usually hit their higher outcomes. Just look at Jalen Brunson for one example. Short, no real lift, I think he dunked like once or twice in 3 college years, not very quick, doesn’t generate steals. The reason he fell to the second round is that is normally considered a bust profile. Daddy Rick was probably working with him since age six. Good coaching, not that AAU nonsense.

Add to the case Harper's Mom is an actual coach and Harper credited her with being his Coach since he was young. I believe his grandfather was an Olympian?


Yea I felt no remorse getting #2 instead of #1. Would have been happy either way and think they both have the same probability of being a star at the next level.

[jmard5]

From a couple of the videos I saw, Dylan Harper doesn't really seem to know much about his Filipino heritage. Seems like he's completely Americanised on his father's side of the family even with his mom being his primary parent (I guess she's been in the US since a young age too).


I saw one video where he visited his grandparents, and them eating rice and Adobo. (The rice cooker immediately stood out, lol, which is a common sight in Filipino kitchen.) There is another video of him and his brother trying Filipino snacks, which he didn't seem to enjoy much.

If I remember correctly, his mom migrated to the US with her parents when she was around 6 or 7.

[jmard5]

Kai Sotto went undrafted a few years ago, going into YouTube or Twitter you had to go through a flood of clips/posts about him. He's been off the radar since then, he's still young I guess but he can sign as a free agent if any team has interest.

Probably still recovering from his ACL injury.

[dn0774]

Interesting article for us stats nerds. (https://nikoza2.substack.com/p/harper-hype-hipsters-or-the-herd)

[scott]

Interesting article for us stats nerds. (https://nikoza2.substack.com/p/harper-hype-hipsters-or-the-herd)

Good stuff! Thanks for sharing!

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/2F1ScWY1L3k?si=cMsBSyh2bL6HUZa9

[RC_Drunkford]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtrPg_RWQAAw89Q?format=jpg&name=large

[rascal]

Wasn't visiting TD after he was drafted? Same with Victor? Did the Spurs meet either of those guys beforehand to talk with them? I can't remember.

good point

[Russ]

Dylan Harper is the obvious choice.

Unless there's some (eventual) friction between him and the Spurs, Harper is a literally perfect pick.

He checks every box.

His floor is Cade Cunningham (who albeit took a while to reveal his potential).

Trading back makes absolutely no sense.

[rjv]

Dylan Harper is the obvious choice.

Unless there's some (eventual) friction between him and the Spurs, Harper is a literally perfect pick.

He checks every box.

His floor is Cade Cunningham (who albeit took a while to reveal his potential).

Trading back makes absolutely no sense.

cade's biggest issues early on were injuries-and being involved in two consecutive years of total tanking.

[RC_Drunkford]

Harper had a second workout with the Spurs

[CGD]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GtrPg_RWQAAw89Q?format=jpg&name=large

Yes sir!

[scottspurs]

Harper had a second workout with the Spurs

Yes, he worked out in San Antonio and New Jersey but I think the New Jersey workout was in conjunction with meeting Harper’s family.

[tonight...you]

Harper is ready for Spurs Life.
Y'all better make him the best fucking churros and Tex-Mex you can possibly offer fatsos!

[RC_Drunkford]

He's already talking to Steph and talked to Wemby pre Shaolin mode :lol

[Guru of Nothing]

Yes sir!

He only looks 7'2" in that pic.

[ginobilized]

I'm starting to get pretty psyched about Harper and tomorrow!
Having 3 guards that can initiate the offense will be very useful.

[CGD]

I'm starting to get pretty psyched about Harper and tomorrow!
Having 3 guards that can initiate the offense will be very useful.

What’s tomorrow?

[scottspurs]

What’s tomorrow?
You haven’t heard about tomorrow?!

[Mr. Body]

Oh man, tomorrow. I'm so hyped

[barakz21]

Wait. What is TOMORROW?

[scottspurs]

Wait. What is TOMORROW?

Tomorrow

[barakz21]

Seriously though, what’s tomorrow? Draft’s not until next Thursday, so what’s this “tomorrow”?

[Dejounte]

Seriously though, what’s tomorrow? Draft’s not until next Thursday, so what’s this “tomorrow”?

tomorrow is the draft if today was next wednesday so he’s technically correct

[Mr. Body]

Seriously though, what’s tomorrow? Draft’s not until next Thursday, so what’s this “tomorrow”?

If you it down to watch the draft next Thursday you will have missed it.

[scottspurs]

Tomorrow is only tomorrow until tomorrow so you never actually reach tomorrow

[spurraider21]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr_nhywjNHM

[Dex]

Wait. What is TOMORROW?

Tomorrow never comes. Tomorrow is just a concept, for it will always be today.

[Seventyniner]

5drjr9PmTMA

[tonight...you]

5drjr9PmTMA
We're in Now Now.

[Ice009]

Yes, he worked out in San Antonio and New Jersey but I think the New Jersey workout was in conjunction with meeting Harper’s family.

Was the San Antonio workout before or after the Spurs met with his family in NJ?

[scottspurs]

Was the San Antonio workout before or after the Spurs met with his family in NJ?
Before

[PhantomDashCam]

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It's pretty clear to me...



https://i.ibb.co/sBNyzf3/Dylan-Harper.png (https://imgbb.com/)

[mystargtr34]

Man Harper is so shifty and twitchy with the ball in his hands. Side to side, stop and go, vertically. He’s gonna be so good.

[baseline bum]

Can't wait to grab a brew tomorrow and celebrate

[BatManu20]

5drjr9PmTMA


Can't believe they're making a Spaceballs 2 forty years later with Rick Moranis and Bill Pullman both returning to reprise their roles. It's either going to be amazing or dog shit tbh, no in-between. I'll be watching it either way.

kdlFlL0Zg_A

[Chillen]

Can't believe they're making a Spaceballs 2 forty years later with Rick Moranis and Bill Pullman both returning to reprise their roles. It's either going to be amazing or dog shit tbh, no in-between. I'll be watching it either way.

kdlFlL0Zg_A

I saw that a few days ago and did not click the video on because I thought it was one of those fake YT vids. Cool I'll check it out to love the 1st movie.

[Chillen]

1934980471349215715

It's pretty clear to me...



https://i.ibb.co/sBNyzf3/Dylan-Harper.png (https://imgbb.com/)

Underrated Stallone film, awesome movie and I think that's really cool.

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/6RAuPI_B2E0?si=O3Bu_RRiWQ5ycQuW

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/1ymv386WelI?si=IDIviC-z7pim5FQd

[cutewizard]

Gentlemen, this boy is gooooooood!

[cutewizard]

We shall have the best guard trio in basketball

We are so lucky.....!

[RC_Drunkford]

so tomorrow is today?

[exstatic]

so tomorrow is today?

Today is tomorrow’s yesterday.

[couchman]

Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury
Signifying nothing.

[pookenstein]

Can't believe they're making a Spaceballs 2 forty years later with Rick Moranis and Bill Pullman both returning to reprise their roles. It's either going to be amazing or dog shit tbh, no in-between. I'll be watching it either way.

kdlFlL0Zg_A

There will also be a new Naked Gun movie starring Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson.

[AFBlue]

What about the Day After Tomorrow?

[KobesAchilles]

Vassell, Barnes and the #2 pick for JJJ. Who says no?

[LeBowen]

Vassell, Barnes and the #2 pick for JJJ. Who says no?

https://i.imgur.com/7KYanaD.png

I think I'll pass.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Vassell, Barnes and the #2 pick for JJJ. Who says no?

Spurs and JJJ himself.

[Ice009]

Vassell, Barnes and the #2 pick for JJJ. Who says no?

No way. Have you ever looked at JJJs playoff numbers/performance there? It's abysmal. I'm not interested even if we got him cheap. He's shown nothing in the playoffs. I wouldn't want to pay him anywhere near max.
His defense paired with Victor would be intriguing, but that is about it. I wouldn't want to pay max money just for that. He's even a mediocre rebounder.

[baseline bum]

Seriously though, what’s tomorrow? Draft’s not until next Thursday, so what’s this “tomorrow”?

It's today

[baseline bum]

There will also be a new Naked Gun movie starring Liam Neeson and Pamela Anderson.

LOL the preview missing Nordberg

[Mr. Body]

It's today

Not until tomorrow.

[scottspurs]

Tomorrow not today

[Guru of Nothing]

It's tomorrow in the Philipines. Let's get an update, cutewizard.

[RC_Drunkford]

it's midnight in Europe. That means it's today right?

[R. DeMurre]

https://i.imgur.com/7KYanaD.png

I think I'll pass.

It's hard to believe how abysmal JJJ's rebounding is. He's 6'11" with a 7'5" wingspan, plays PF and C, and was outrebounded per game last year by Desmond Bane, a SG with the worst wingspan ratio in the NBA.

[RC_Drunkford]

It's hard to believe how abysmal JJJ's rebounding is. He's 6'11" with a 7'5" wingspan, plays PF and C, and was outrebounded per game last year by Desmond Bane, a SG with the worst wingspan ratio in the NBA.

that's what happens when your bigs play on the perimeter. Same with Myles Turner, Brook Lopez, etc.

[RC_Drunkford]

interesting tidbit:

Bruce Bowen says he's really close with Ron Harper and how Ron Harper thinks the Spurs culture will be great for his son. So no issues with Dylan's dad there at all. Quite the opposite. (47:50 mark)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uLOOsiliFY

[Guru of Nothing]

Nice find.

[Ice009]

Awesome find. I wonder when Bruce got to know Ron. I guess they may have cross paths when he first got to the NBA at the tail end of Ron's career.

[mystargtr34]

Awesome find. I wonder when Bruce got to know Ron. I guess they may have cross paths when he first got to the NBA at the tail end of Ron's career.

Bruce was passed around like a blunt at a college party his first 5 years in the league before he got to San Antonio so I’m guessing he met Ron during one of those stints.

[Ice009]

Bruce was passed around like a blunt at a college party his first 5 years in the league before he got to San Antonio so I’m guessing he met Ron during one of those stints.

I know he played for Miami and they were not happy when the Spurs took him away. I'll have to look up who else he played with.

[keithington1]

He talks so much trash you know he’s gonna be a superstar.

[T Park]

LOL the preview missing Nordberg


His kid looking at the screen and just shaking his head no ��

[T Park]

I know he played for Miami and they were not happy when the Spurs took him away. I'll have to look up who else he played with.

I know he played a short stint for Boston

[BatManu20]

Juicy.

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[Degoat]

Geez!! I would love to know all the different trades that have really been proposed for #2 lol I really want Harper, but it would be something else if the spurs did all this were set on Harper just to continue building up a Trada package leading up to the draft

[timtonymanu]

Can't believe they're making a Spaceballs 2 forty years later with Rick Moranis and Bill Pullman both returning to reprise their roles. It's either going to be amazing or dog shit tbh, no in-between. I'll be watching it either way.

kdlFlL0Zg_A

Most of the time, these reboots turn out to be total dog shit.

[rascal]

Geez!! I would love to know all the different trades that have really been proposed for #2 lol I really want Harper, but it would be something else if the spurs did all this were set on Harper just to continue building up a Trada package leading up to the draft

They better not. Spurs are now set for the future with Wemby and the backcourt set.

[BatManu20]

Most of the time, these reboots turn out to be total dog shit.

Yup. And usually those reboots are like 15-20 years later, not fucking 40 years :lol. The fact Mel Brooks is still going to help write the script, co-produce, and star in the film at 99 years old is nuts. Will be interesting to see how it turns out.

[R. DeMurre]

that's what happens when your bigs play on the perimeter. Same with Myles Turner, Brook Lopez, etc.


Still somewhat indefensible. Being an outside shooter would explain fewer offensive rebounds, but he’s a terrible defensive rebounder too.

[Mr. Body]

Still somewhat indefensible. Being an outside shooter would explain fewer offensive rebounds, but he’s a terrible defensive rebounder too.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's true that bigs might get fewer overall rebounds in this era. A reason why guards pick up more rebounds in general and those triple doubles that Westbrook was getting weren't as impressive for me - because with more threes shot, there are more misses, and the caroms go further from the rim. With everything spread out, guards pick up more rebounds.

JJJ is a bad rebounder even by these circumstances.

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/ytrRIWLobGk?si=h6JJT-G44QhBD0_5

[LeBowen]

https://youtube.com/shorts/fe-HDPOGTCk?si=yqOKeC40IU6NOwpX

Already media trained, knows all the right things to say.

Fucking spurstalk isn't embedding it because it's a short.

[Dejounte]

Will ace bailey be known as the low iq chucker who held dylan’s success down in college? I think so

[CGD]

Juicy.

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Juicy indeed.

But I have to remind myself it’s probably VJ + 2 picks in the 20s with how shitty the East is.

[ginobilized]

I loved hearing that Ron Harper is on board with the Spurs as his son's team. I would be be too, if I were him.

In thinking about his development, going against Castle and Fox in training camp, summer workouts and practices will be very good for Harper. Hopefully, some CP3 wisdom is still part of the corporate knowledge and that is passed on to Harper. Castle's all-business approach is like an old-school veteran already. Perfect for Harper.

[spursistan]

Juicy.

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Shows you how highly valued Harper is by opposing GMs now that the final scouting reports on him have been turned. I have a feeling many will be pleasantly surprised by how close to Cooper Flagg Harper is going to be as player when all is said and done. This isn't Wemby vs Scoot/B. Miller/Amen who are a glaxy(ies) apart. It will be Oden vs KD if the former didn't get destroyed by injuries..

[LeBowen]

Shows you how highly valued Harper is by opposing GMs now that the final scouting reports on him have been turned. I have a feeling many will be pleasantly surprised by how close to Cooper Flagg Harper is going to be as player when all is said and done. This isn't Wemby vs Scoot/B. Miller/Amen who are a glaxy(ies) apart. It will be Oden vs KD if the former didn't get destroyed by injuries..

If we ignore Grizzlies picking Hasheem Thabeet with #2 :lol, it could also be a Griffin/Harden situation.

[spursparker9]

If given enough mins, it should be a tight race for the ROY between Flagg and Harper.

But Flagg is definitely a starter for Mavs and Harper is likely to come off bench behind Fox, Castle, Vassell (if he is not traded). So Flagg would be the favorite for ROY

[ismael-robert]

Flagg may always have upper hand simply due to height. He's more capable of being two way: grabbing boards, blocking/distracting shots, maybe even deflecting passing lanes...harper will be better offensively

[Guru of Nothing]

Over/under on this year's ROTY thread? 150 pages?

[Dejounte]

Three consecutive roty would be historic

[SpursFan86]

3 straight ROTY would be sick but I think it’s pretty unlikely barring a Flagg injury. What’s Harper’s realistic best case statline if the Spurs stay healthy? Something like 15/5/5?

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2F1ScWY1L3k

[Guru of Nothing]

3 straight ROTY would be sick but I think it’s pretty unlikely barring a Flagg injury. What’s Harper’s realistic best case statline if the Spurs stay healthy? Something like 15/5/5?

Hope they scheme to put extra sauce on Harper's game for the Mav matchups - on prime time.

[cutewizard]

Physically, Dylan resembles Ricardo Brown, though their offensive skillsets are different

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lck2bu53Yk

[scottspurs]

I think he has a chance because Cooper Flagg is not really known for his offense at this point. I could see Flagg averaging 14-15 his rookie year. He will make a massive impact on defense but if Harper averages 18 that will catch voters attention. The main key will be where the Spurs and mavericks end up on the standings. If mavericks miss the playoffs and the Spurs are like the 5-6 seed I could see him having a chance. It would take being on the low end of statistical spectrum and Harper on the high end.

So something like this

Dylan Harper: 18 pts, 33% 3-pt, 4 ast, 4 Reb, 1.5 stl

Cooper Flagg: 15 pts, 30% 3-pt, 4 ast, 7 Reb, 1.5 stl, 1.5 blk

Spurs 5 seed

Mavericks 9 seed lose in play in.

18 would be a lot from Harper but Castle scored 14.7 his rookie year and I think we can all agree Harper will be a better scorer. It would take Harper getting starter minutes and going off on nights when Wemby doesn’t play.

It’s a long shot but possible. Would definitely be historic to have 3 ROY’s in a row

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyWiAPAJgBo

[cutewizard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30PUwMKOHA

[Mr. Body]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30PUwMKOHA

Harper will really need the ball in his hands to fully develop. It doesn't need to happen right away. I'm sure they'll put in sets where he learns how to play off-ball, and he'll be more than fine. But this is gonna be a good headache figuring out how to get him and Wemby and Fox their proper touches. Castle, too, but I think Castle is very comfortable in an off-ball, cutting, finding seams kind of way and can ratchet down in usage.

If they add Durant, this is going to be a big bowl of spaghetti to figure out.

[KobesAchilles]

Man Edgecomb going to Philly is going to be great for them. Charlotte meanwhile will have a team of talented youth who just don’t mesh together. Idk Bailey wants to play for them over Philly.

[SpursFan86]

I think he has a chance because Cooper Flagg is not really known for his offense at this point. I could see Flagg averaging 14-15 his rookie year. He will make a massive impact on defense but if Harper averages 18 that will catch voters attention. The main key will be where the Spurs and mavericks end up on the standings. If mavericks miss the playoffs and the Spurs are like the 5-6 seed I could see him having a chance. It would take being on the low end of statistical spectrum and Harper on the high end.

So something like this

Dylan Harper: 18 pts, 33% 3-pt, 4 ast, 4 Reb, 1.5 stl

Cooper Flagg: 15 pts, 30% 3-pt, 4 ast, 7 Reb, 1.5 stl, 1.5 blk

Spurs 5 seed

Mavericks 9 seed lose in play in.

18 would be a lot from Harper but Castle scored 14.7 his rookie year and I think we can all agree Harper will be a better scorer. It would take Harper getting starter minutes and going off on nights when Wemby doesn’t play.

It’s a long shot but possible. Would definitely be historic to have 3 ROY’s in a row

Only reason Castle scored 14.7 is because of injuries, though. I think we all agree that if Fox/Wemby stayed healthy we would’ve seen Castle in a more limited role.

Not saying 18 ppg for Harper is impossible, but I pretty much think the only way he gets there is with injuries. If we do end up bringing in KD, I think even 15 ppg is pushing the limits if we’re assuming our main guys stay mostly healthy.

With Kyrie already likely missing the first 3-4 months of the season, Flagg is primed to have a big offensive role even if that’s not necessarily his strength at this point. Flagg putting up 15ish ppg seems like a borderline floor, while Harper putting up 15 ppg seems close to the ceiling IMO.

His chances really come down to whether KD joins or not tbh. Without KD, there are a few different ways he maybe gets there…but with KD, it’s just very unlikely he has the counting stats to be in the conversation.

[BatManu20]

I just hope they let Harper wear #2 tbh. Will be trash if they make him change it because of nephew's bitch ass.

[LeBowen]

I just hope they let Harper wear #2 tbh. Will be trash if they make him change it because of nephew's bitch ass.

That's exactly what's going to happen.
Fox chose #2 and changed it to #4 because it was his wife number...which is just a decent story after they told him nephew's number is out of commission.
Would be nice to have #1 through #5 starting lineup, but I guess Keldon will take #3 back if he doesn't get traded.

[barakz21]

Physically, Dylan resembles Ricardo Brown, though their offensive skillsets are different

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lck2bu53Yk

The quick brown fox! Though I never saw him play as he was already retired by the time I started watching basketball lol

[BatManu20]

That's exactly what's going to happen.
Fox chose #2 and changed it to #4 because it was his wife number...which is just a decent story after they told him nephew's number is out of commission.
Would be nice to have #1 through #5 starting lineup, but I guess Keldon will take #3 back if he doesn't get traded.

So fucking lame tbh. The only other # I've seen Harper wear is #3 (in a tournament) so I assume he'll roll with that if Keldon doesn't take it back, or maybe #0 instead if Keldon does. Either way, incredibly gay if they do that, which I assume they will too.

[spursistan]

If we ignore Grizzlies picking Hasheem Thabeet with #2 :lol, it could also be a Griffin/Harden situation.
Interesting comparison.. Harden ended up being a better player based mostly on him being the more reliable & superior offensive engine (hence a regular season MVP winner and contender for many others), but you could argue that they were same tier player in the final analysis (Blake's injuries blur the picture) Neither was good enough to carry a team as number 1 option in the playoffs. The good news for Spurs: they don't need Harper to scratch MVP level or even 1st team All-NBA to win a ring, but Mavs most certainly need Flagg to become that guy to contend. My too early prediction: Flagg will top as the overall better, but not by a chasm..

[SpursFan86]

Harden ended up being a better player based mostly on him being the more reliable & superior offensive engine (hence a regular season MVP winner and contender for many others), but you could argue that they were same tier player in the final analysis (Blake's injuries blur the picture) Neither was good enough to carry a team as number 1 option in the playoffs.

This is a pretty wild take :lol I can’t stand Harden but saying that Griffin is in the same tier as him (or even close) is absurd. Griffin’s best 5 seasons don’t even come close to Harden’s. Also think it’s silly to say Harden was never good enough to carry a playoff team…put Prime Harden on the ‘06 Heat for example and do you really think they don’t still make it to the Finals/possibly win? He was definitely a playoff underperformer but in the context of comparing him to Griffin I don’t really think it changes the discussion.

[BackHome]

Gotta admit still have not rapped my head around that we got the 2nd pick in this draft. I probably did a thousand mocks on Tankathon and for what ever reason the 2nd pick was one I got the fewest in fact got the first pick way more then the second pick.

One thing that this draft and our trade with Hawks has shown me that getting a top 3 pick is pretty damn hard no matter how bad your record is there are no sure things. I have been pretty upfront that I wanted to tank for Wemby and also for Flagg, but still extremely happy we getting Harper. So for me the hard part starts as we now got the talent and we got some pieces to make some trades if we need to as far as players or future draft picks.

[Ice009]

I just hope they let Harper wear #2 tbh. Will be trash if they make him change it because of nephew's bitch ass.

At first, I thought it's because of Kawhi's number, but wasn't sure if Fox was told he can't have it or if De'Aaron changed his mind on it himself for his wife.


That's exactly what's going to happen.
Fox chose #2 and changed it to #4 because it was his wife number...which is just a decent story after they told him nephew's number is out of commission.
Would be nice to have #1 through #5 starting lineup, but I guess Keldon will take #3 back if he doesn't get traded.

If it wasn't because of Kawhi or De'Aaron actually changing his mind, maybe they wanted to leave that number open just in case they won the draft lottery? I knew Cooper wore #2, but I also didn't know Dylan Harper also wears #2 (I knew next to nothing about Harper at the time of the Fox trade). Spurs had amazing luck in the draft lottery and now have the right to draft one of these guys. I think Dylan should be allowed to wear that number if he wants it.



Gotta admit still have not rapped my head around that we got the 2nd pick in this draft. I probably did a thousand mocks on Tankathon and for what ever reason the 2nd pick was one I got the fewest in fact got the first pick way more then the second pick.

One thing that this draft and our trade with Hawks has shown me that getting a top 3 pick is pretty damn hard no matter how bad your record is there are no sure things. I have been pretty upfront that I wanted to tank for Wemby and also for Flagg, but still extremely happy we getting Harper. So for me the hard part starts as we now got the talent and we got some pieces to make some trades if we need to as far as players or future draft picks.

I agree with that. Getting a top 3 pick is a lot harder than people think. And I also think you're right, you definitely could say that the harder part/s starts now. Spurs have to make smart moves from this point on and start building this up. This is where the harder decisions start with what to do with those assets, what players to bring in, figuring out the core players. Lots of work to be done from this point on.

[RC_Drunkford]

No Fox wanted to wear 5 and Castle already got that number so he switched to 4. The mock ups of him in a Spurs jersey had him wearing 2.

[RC_Drunkford]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30PUwMKOHA

[baseline bum]

I just hope they let Harper wear #2 tbh. Will be trash if they make him change it because of nephew's bitch ass.

They're gonna retire Kawhi's number as long as Pop is alive when Leonard retires.

[baseline bum]

Gotta admit still have not rapped my head around that we got the 2nd pick in this draft. I probably did a thousand mocks on Tankathon and for what ever reason the 2nd pick was one I got the fewest in fact got the first pick way more then the second pick.

One thing that this draft and our trade with Hawks has shown me that getting a top 3 pick is pretty damn hard no matter how bad your record is there are no sure things. I have been pretty upfront that I wanted to tank for Wemby and also for Flagg, but still extremely happy we getting Harper. So for me the hard part starts as we now got the talent and we got some pieces to make some trades if we need to as far as players or future draft picks.

It's funny I got the #2 on tankathon all the time but rarely the #1 :lol

I just wanted top 4 badly, though that was back when it looked set in stone that Edgecombe would be there with Bailey going #3. Now I wouldn't be nearly as thrilled with #4 since Philly is 99% taking Edgecombe #3 which leaves Tre Johnson the guy I'd have wanted at #4.

[LeBowen]

It's funny I got the #2 on tankathon all the time but rarely the #1 :lol

I just wanted top 4 badly, though that was back when it looked set in stone that Edgecombe would be there with Bailey going #3. Now I wouldn't be nearly as thrilled with #4 since Philly is 99% taking Edgecombe #3 which leaves Tre Johnson the guy I'd have wanted at #4.

I kind of can't get over that we were one number away from having both #1 and #2. :lol

Before the lottery I wast just hoping for a legit 3-D prospect, now we can get both Harper and a wing.
In hindsight, it would've been perfect if we got Markkanen instead of Fox, but I'm not complaining.

[baseline bum]

I kind of can't get over that we were one number away from having both #1 and #2. :lol

Before the lottery I wast just hoping for a legit 3-D prospect, now we can get both Harper and a wing.
In hindsight, it would've been perfect if we got Markkanen instead of Fox, but I'm not complaining.

Before the lottery I was hoping for Kon :lol

Would be like in 2022 hoping we could get Mathurin and instead being gifted Chet (who I was pissed the Spurs didn't tank for at the time :lol)

[picnroll]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b30PUwMKOHA

To my eye Harper is a little quicker, little better ball handler, gets to the rim a little faster but Cade’s length and hoops allow him to get less difficult shots.

[RC_Drunkford]

To my eye Harper is a little quicker, little better ball handler, gets to the rim a little faster but Cade’s length and hoops allow him to get less difficult shots.

Cade was also always a better shooter than Harper

[dn0774]

They're gonna retire Kawhi's number as long as Pop is alive when Leonard retires.

I'd even say Kawhi's number was functionally retired once he got a Finals MVP and 2 DPOYs for the org, whether Pop is around or not.

[dn0774]

Cade was also always a better shooter than Harper

I agree Cade was a better shooter (stats bare that out obv), but I do think Harper will surprise in a positive way with his shooting even as a rookie. To me, his college season stats got pulled down hard due to a stretch where he arguably shouldn't have been playing due to a high ankle sprain and illness. In a 29 game season those 5 or 6 games had a magnified effect on his averages and efficiency much more so than a rough little stretch would in an 82 game season.

I'm just not ready to declare him a bad shooter in the vein of Castle.

[rjv]

the spacing on that Rutgers team was garbage.

[spurraider21]

the spacing on that Rutgers team was garbage.
enter stephon castle and jeremy sochan :lol

[SpursFan86]

1936131568550166990

Wednesday cant come quick enough.

[BatManu20]

the spacing on that Rutgers team was garbage.

The team in general was garbage. Harper should've committed elsewhere tbh. He was asked to do everything for them and to try to bail them out in every close game. He's going to be a monster with NBA spacing imo.

[picnroll]

Cade was also always a better shooter than Harper

Out of curiosity I compared Castle’s stats to Cunningham’s rookie stats.
Cunningham: Minutes 32.6; PPG 17.4 FG% 41.6; 3 pt% 31.4 (actually dropped to 27.9 his second year with no better FG%) ; FT% 84.5 Asst/TO 5.6/3.7
Castle: Minutes 29.9; PPG 14.7; FG% 42.8; 3 p%t 28.5; FT% 72.4; Asst/TO 4.1/2.2

I think Castle has a good chance of topping Cunningham’s second year FG and 3 pt %, hopefully by a significant margin, and would be disappointed if Harper didn’t have better numbers his rookie season.

[dn0774]

Out of curiosity I compared Castle’s stats to Cunningham’s rookie stats.
Cunningham: Minutes 32.6; PPG 17.4 FG% 41.6; 3 pt% 31.4 (actually dropped to 27.9 his second year with no better FG%) ; FT% 84.5 Asst/TO 5.6/3.7
Castle: Minutes 29.9; PPG 14.7; FG% 42.8; 3 p%t 28.5; FT% 72.4; Asst/TO 4.1/2.2

I think Castle has a good chance of topping Cunningham’s second year FG and 3 pt %, hopefully by a significant margin, and would be disappointed if Harper didn’t have better numbers his rookie season.

Worth pointing out Cade's 2nd season only amounted to 12 games due to injury, not really a legit sample. Still, I didn't realize Castle had such a similar stats to rookie Cade, interesting stuff. I hope Dylan is able to get decent minutes and usage in his rookie year but if Vassell is somehow in the fold still it will be tough.

[OldMan88]

I'd even say Kawhi's number was functionally retired once he got a Finals MVP and 2 DPOYs for the org, whether Pop is around or not.

That might be true, but I still think they need to carefully weigh the chickenshit way he forced his way out in the decision. Especially because he accused the team doctors of lying about his diagnosis when the Toronto doctors told him the same thing. Every other player with his jersey retired didn’t display any disrespect to the team like that. If anything, poll the fans.

[Seventyniner]

That might be true, but I still think they need to carefully weigh the chickenshit way he forced his way out in the decision. Especially because he accused the team doctors of lying about his diagnosis when the Toronto doctors told him the same thing. Every other player with his jersey retired didn’t display any disrespect to the team like that. If anything, poll the fans.

You don't need to poll the fans. Just listen to the boos that rain down on him every time he is in SA. Retiring his number would be a travesty.

[exstatic]

You don't need to poll the fans. Just listen to the boos that rain down on him every time he is in SA. Retiring his number would be a travesty.

He legit stole $19M (his salary for the 73 games he missed by faking injury) from this franchise. Fuck that guy. He played 9 games, and it turned out that was when his shoe was dropping.

[LeBowen]

You don't need to poll the fans. Just listen to the boos that rain down on him every time he is in SA. Retiring his number would be a travesty.

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[spursistan]

The more teams attempt to bowl us over with juicy offers for #2 the more Brian Wright will cling on to it :lol.. I 've said above: the final scouting reports have been turned over and scouts and front office people are increasingly of the view that Harper is much closer to Flagg as a prospect than to the 3-8 lottery field, and so they think Spurs could bite on a massive package citing the much discussed 'fit over BPA' rational for such transaction..

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[Uriel]

The more teams attempt to bowl us over with juicy offers for #2 the more Brian Wright will cling on to it :lol.. I 've said above: the final scouting reports have been turned over and scouts and front office people are increasingly of the view that Harper is much closer to Flagg as a prospect than to the 3-8 lottery field, and so they think Spurs could bite on a massive package citing the much discussed 'fit over BPA' rational for such transaction..

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Coulibaly would be a surprising name. I doubt it’s Sarr or Wright would’ve pulled the trigger, considering how he was reportedly #1 on the Spurs’ Big Board last year and the team’s current lack of frontcourt depth.

[LeBowen]

Coulibaly would be a surprising name. I doubt it’s Sarr or Wright would’ve pulled the trigger, considering how he was reportedly #1 on the Spurs Big Board last year.

Why would it matter if Sarr was #1 on their board last year when this draft is way stronger?
Harper would've been a consensus #1 last year.

If anything, this season has shown us Sarr has a very long way to go.
He'd be a huge negative on offense when playing with Wemby and he's also a poor rebounder for his size.

Wizards have nothing we'd want over Harper.

[Uriel]

Why would it matter if Sarr was #1 on their board last year when this draft is way stronger?
Harper would've been a consensus #1 last year.

If anything, this season has shown us Sarr has a very long way to go.
He'd be a huge negative on offense when playing with Wemby and he's also a poor rebounder for his size.

Wizards have nothing we'd want over Harper.
To be clear, I’m Team Harper all the way. But think of it from Wright’s perspective.

Say Wizards offer Sarr and #6 (Ace Bailey?). You get to fill your two biggest holes in one go, and in exchange, you give up a player whom you would’ve struggled to fit in an already crowded backcourt.

Again, I’d still stick with Harper, just because of his sheer talent and potential, but the roster fit from this deal makes a ton of sense.

[LeBowen]

Say Wizards offer Sarr and #6 (Ace Bailey?). You get to fill your two biggest holes in one go

And what makes you believe that either of them will be good?
We'll be trying to seriously compete this season, Sarr will be a negative on offense for a couple more years at least and Bailey has so many red flags I've lost count. Even if we exclude off-court issues.


you give up a player whom you would’ve struggled to fit in an already crowded backcourt.

There are 96 minutes available for guard positions and if we don't get Harper, we'll need another point guard.
Just because all 3 won't start it doesn't mean they won't play starter minutes. Spurs fans should know this better than any other fanbase.

[MannyIsGod]

Since I've been a Spurs fan, there have only been 2 players drafted who had more promise than Harper has right now. Duncan and Wemby. People are over thinking this and I really hope Wright isn't one of those people although there is no indication he is. You don't use the 2nd pick for need when you have a guy of Harper's talent and upside on the board.

[cutewizard]

How lucky we are to have Harper........our backcourt is secure for the foreseeable future........

[benefactor]

To be clear, I’m Team Harper all the way. But think of it from Wright’s perspective.

Say Wizards offer Sarr and #6 (Ace Bailey?). You get to fill your two biggest holes in one go, and in exchange, you give up a player whom you would’ve struggled to fit in an already crowded backcourt.




Again, I’d still stick with Harper, just because of his sheer talent and potential, but the roster fit from this deal makes a ton of sense.
No

[Mr. Body]

And what makes you believe that either of them will be good?
We'll be trying to seriously compete this season, Sarr will be a negative on offense for a couple more years at least and Bailey has so many red flags I've lost count. Even if we exclude off-court issues.



There are 96 minutes available for guard positions and if we don't get Harper, we'll need another point guard.
Just because all 3 won't start it doesn't mean they won't play starter minutes. Spurs fans should know this better than any other fanbase.

The problem with Fox-Castle-Harper isn't really minutes. They can fairly overlap in terms of minutes (although finishing games is a point). It's how they are being used. Harper projects as an on-the-ball dominant offensive engine and needs lots of reps to develop that way. Fox is also a ball-dominant player. Castle was used as one late this season but can play more on ball, though he deserves touches there, too.

So, you have three guys who need the ball in their hands. Fox to be most effective, Harper to develop. Phoenix, for example, already had problems with 'your turn, my turn' set-ups with KD, Booker, and Beal, and they played somewhat different positions. These are always pretty problematic. I think there will be efforts to get, say, Castle screening for Harper - he did for CP3 - but the fact is all three kind of want to do the same things on the court in similar ways. It's going to be an issue.

[LeBowen]

The problem with Fox-Castle-Harper isn't really minutes. They can fairly overlap in terms of minutes (although finishing games is a point). It's how they are being used. Harper projects as an on-the-ball dominant offensive engine and needs lots of reps to develop that way. Fox is also a ball-dominant player. Castle was used as one late this season but can play more on ball, though he deserves touches there, too.

So, you have three guys who need the ball in their hands. Fox to be most effective, Harper to develop. Phoenix, for example, already had problems with 'your turn, my turn' set-ups with KD, Booker, and Beal, and they played somewhat different positions. These are always pretty problematic. I think there will be efforts to get, say, Castle screening for Harper - he did for CP3 - but the fact is all three kind of want to do the same things on the court in similar ways. It's going to be an issue.

Did you already forget how many times the likes of Keldon and even Jeremy were bringing the ball up this season?
We get those touches for Harper by taking them away from our wings who shouldn't be handling the ball, anyway.
I love Castle, but I don't think what he did at the end of the season to get ROTY should be his natural role for a few more years.

And I don't think it should be compared to Suns situation because neither of those three is a playmaker, they're scorers who shouldn't be taken out of their comfort zone.
My biggest issue with potentialy KD trade (or even Devin staying) is that they shouldn't have any playmaking duties.
I want KD only if it's going to be the executioner, FIBA KD. I don't want none of Suns KD.

[RC_Drunkford]

The more teams attempt to bowl us over with juicy offers for #2 the more Brian Wright will cling on to it :lol.. I 've said above: the final scouting reports have been turned over and scouts and front office people are increasingly of the view that Harper is much closer to Flagg as a prospect than to the 3-8 lottery field, and so they think Spurs could bite on a massive package citing the much discussed 'fit over BPA' rational for such transaction..

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not that somebody was predicting this...:wakeup

[LeBowen]

not that somebody was predicting this...:wakeup

You were also predicting Spurs won't get Harper. :lol

[RC_Drunkford]

You were also predicting Spurs won't get Harper. :lol

nah I said they will get plenty of offers and might trade down if they get a haul. They are clearly getting good offers from the teams I mentioned.

[picnroll]

Miss the years of arguing who’s better TP or Manu. Looking forward to the years of arguing who’s better Fox, Castle or Harper.

[SpursBills]

The problem with Fox-Castle-Harper isn't really minutes. They can fairly overlap in terms of minutes (although finishing games is a point). It's how they are being used. Harper projects as an on-the-ball dominant offensive engine and needs lots of reps to develop that way. Fox is also a ball-dominant player. Castle was used as one late this season but can play more on ball, though he deserves touches there, too.

So, you have three guys who need the ball in their hands. Fox to be most effective, Harper to develop. Phoenix, for example, already had problems with 'your turn, my turn' set-ups with KD, Booker, and Beal, and they played somewhat different positions. These are always pretty problematic. I think there will be efforts to get, say, Castle screening for Harper - he did for CP3 - but the fact is all three kind of want to do the same things on the court in similar ways. It's going to be an issue.

I sort of disagree with you about KD - I think that rather than impede their progress, KD actually buys time for 3 guys - Harper, Castle, and Sochan.

I base this assertion on two things -
1. The offensive functionality of a lineup is based on the amount of cumulative gravity of its players, rather than having all 5 players have some sort of gravity
2. While the question of whether a guy shoots is important, just as important is the question of WHEN he'll shoot. A ton of guys start off as non or poor shooters, only to become passable with time. For example, James Harden started off as a slightly above league average shooter (by volume+percentage) and slightly improved every season until maxing out in his age 29 season.

Right now we've got a non-shooter in Sochan, a poor shooter in Castle, and I know people are optimistic about Harper's shot, but he's got a ton of bad misses over his college sample, I think he's going to struggle a little bit with his jumper his first couple years. So in a regular lineup, you can't play Castle with Sochan, and certainly not the two of them with Fox because spacing, and then if you add Harper he probably can't play with Sochan, and it's questionable if he can play with Castle because spacing, and eventually you just run into a bunch of non-functional lineups that impede development. If you add KD into the lineup, all of a sudden, your lineup's cumulative gravity goes way up, and you can start playing some of those awkward lineups that didn't seem playable before. Castle and Harper develop their drive game with open lanes caused by KD's gravity. Sochan actually gets a diet of open 3s caused by KD's gravity. Even if you believe in their work ethic and ability to develop their jumpers, it takes several years before their off the dribble game develops. KD can suck up a ton of usage, but that doesn't mean that he has to suck up a ton of time of possession.

Develop Harper like Harden, let him learn to be a good defender and off-ball player first because it'll make him a better basketball player. KD's old as fuck, so there'll be stretches where he misses time as well where you can let him chuck shots occasionally, but I don't want that being the staple of his "development". Harden started being full time on-ball at age 23, and by that time Harper's that age KD will be either retired or a bit player and Fox may well be traded. In the meantime the team gets to stay competitive - you're basically buying time for your young guys to develop their shots with a high gravity guy.

[picnroll]

I’m not a fan in the least of acquiring KD. I’m perfectly fine with the Spurs progressing up the ladder in the next couple of years. I’d rather they develop their identity, their style of play with the core that exist now, Wemby, Fox, Castle, hopefully Harper, and I’m still hopeful of Sochan, than develop a style heavily influenced by KD who’ll be gone in 2 to 3 years.

[SpursFan86]

nah I said they will get plenty of offers and might trade down if they get a haul. They are clearly getting good offers from the teams I mentioned.

Ehhh that’s a bit of a back pedal :lol You were acting like it was more likely than not that they trade it away, and were making it seem like they were seriously considering moving Harper in a win-now move. Everything that has come out since then has pointed to them being all-in on Harper and having no interest in trading the pick.

[baseline bum]

The more teams attempt to bowl us over with juicy offers for #2 the more Brian Wright will cling on to it :lol.. I 've said above: the final scouting reports have been turned over and scouts and front office people are increasingly of the view that Harper is much closer to Flagg as a prospect than to the 3-8 lottery field, and so they think Spurs could bite on a massive package citing the much discussed 'fit over BPA' rational for such transaction..

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Unless they're able to bring back a prime Wes Unseld from the dead nothing they could surprise me with to entice a Harper trade.

[benefactor]

I sort of disagree with you about KD - I think that rather than impede their progress, KD actually buys time for 3 guys - Harper, Castle, and Sochan.

I base this assertion on two things -
1. The offensive functionality of a lineup is based on the amount of cumulative gravity of its players, rather than having all 5 players have some sort of gravity
2. While the question of whether a guy shoots is important, just as important is the question of WHEN he'll shoot. A ton of guys start off as non or poor shooters, only to become passable with time. For example, James Harden started off as a slightly above league average shooter (by volume+percentage) and slightly improved every season until maxing out in his age 29 season.

Right now we've got a non-shooter in Sochan, a poor shooter in Castle, and I know people are optimistic about Harper's shot, but he's got a ton of bad misses over his college sample, I think he's going to struggle a little bit with his jumper his first couple years. So in a regular lineup, you can't play Castle with Sochan, and certainly not the two of them with Fox because spacing, and then if you add Harper he probably can't play with Sochan, and it's questionable if he can play with Castle because spacing, and eventually you just run into a bunch of non-functional lineups that impede development. If you add KD into the lineup, all of a sudden, your lineup's cumulative gravity goes way up, and you can start playing some of those awkward lineups that didn't seem playable before. Castle and Harper develop their drive game with open lanes caused by KD's gravity. Sochan actually gets a diet of open 3s caused by KD's gravity. Even if you believe in their work ethic and ability to develop their jumpers, it takes several years before their off the dribble game develops. KD can suck up a ton of usage, but that doesn't mean that he has to suck up a ton of time of possession.

Develop Harper like Harden, let him learn to be a good defender and off-ball player first because it'll make him a better basketball player. KD's old as fuck, so there'll be stretches where he misses time as well where you can let him chuck shots occasionally, but I don't want that being the staple of his "development". Harden started being full time on-ball at age 23, and by that time Harper's that age KD will be either retired or a bit player and Fox may well be traded. In the meantime the team gets to stay competitive - you're basically buying time for your young guys to develop their shots with a high gravity guy.
This is the same drum I've been beating with Durant. People keep saying that we can't win a championship with Durant and our lineup. We were never going to win a championship with Durant and our lineup. Acquiring Durant is about gap bridging development when it comes to the players we currently have and going from the team we currently have to the championship team we are building.

[Russ]

To be clear, I’m Team Harper all the way. But think of it from Wright’s perspective.

Say Wizards offer Sarr and #6 (Ace Bailey?). You get to fill your two biggest holes in one go, and in exchange, you give up a player whom you would’ve struggled to fit in an already crowded backcourt.

Again, I’d still stick with Harper, just because of his sheer talent and potential, but the roster fit from this deal makes a ton of sense.

Go with your first instinct.

Team who gets the best player (i.e., Harper) always wins the trade.

[CGD]

The more teams attempt to bowl us over with juicy offers for #2 the more Brian Wright will cling on to it :lol.. I 've said above: the final scouting reports have been turned over and scouts and front office people are increasingly of the view that Harper is much closer to Flagg as a prospect than to the 3-8 lottery field, and so they think Spurs could bite on a massive package citing the much discussed 'fit over BPA' rational for such transaction..

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It would be PEAK wizards if they included their unprotected 2026 FRP to clinch the deal, only for them to finally hit on the 1st overall selection.

[RC_Drunkford]

Ehhh that’s a bit of a back pedal :lol You were acting like it was more likely than not that they trade it away, and were making it seem like they were seriously considering moving Harper in a win-now move. Everything that has come out since then has pointed to them being all-in on Harper and having no interest in trading the pick.

gotta adjust as new information comes out. I also always said I hope they draft Harper, because I don't trust Brian Wright to nail the pick if they trade down. The draft is only a few days away, so we'll find out. I'm sure they will get even crazier offers until draft night.

That being said I still think they are in win-now mode if they trade for KD and will replace the majority of the roster.

[TekXX]

Is Harper that good? Are there really teams trying to trade for him?

[Mr. Body]

Is Harper that good? Are there really teams trying to trade for him?

Not really, and no.

[Ice009]

Not really, and no.

So you don't think much of him? Do you even want to draft him? And as for other teams, you think those offers to trade for the 2nd pick aren't serious?

[exstatic]

The more teams attempt to bowl us over with juicy offers for #2 the more Brian Wright will cling on to it :lol.. I 've said above: the final scouting reports have been turned over and scouts and front office people are increasingly of the view that Harper is much closer to Flagg as a prospect than to the 3-8 lottery field, and so they think Spurs could bite on a massive package citing the much discussed 'fit over BPA' rational for such transaction..

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Spurs aren’t trading the pick. They have already had him for a workout, and gone to visit him and his family. They don’t jerk people around like that.

[scott]

For the "Wait for the Nico Surprise" crowd... reportedly DAL did not even bring Harper in for a workout because they didn't want to cause any uncertainty and create drama with the Flagg camp. They want Cooper and his team to know that he is their guy and they aren't entertaining anything else.

Makes sense... they have some bridge building to do with players considering they just cost a Top 5 player 100+ million dollars. No matter the basketball justification for that... players and agents will remember that kind of shit.

[exstatic]

Not really, and no.

Wrong on both accounts.

[exstatic]

Coulibaly would be a surprising name. I doubt it’s Sarr or Wright would’ve pulled the trigger, considering how he was reportedly #1 on the Spurs’ Big Board last year and the team’s current lack of frontcourt depth.

Sarr might not even be top 10 in this draft.

[exstatic]

To be clear, I’m Team Harper all the way. But think of it from Wright’s perspective.

Say Wizards offer Sarr and #6 (Ace Bailey?). You get to fill your two biggest holes in one go, and in exchange, you give up a player whom you would’ve struggled to fit in an already crowded backcourt.

Again, I’d still stick with Harper, just because of his sheer talent and potential, but the roster fit from this deal makes a ton of sense.

That would be horrible. Bailey is terrible,both personality and game.

[exstatic]

nah I said they will get plenty of offers and might trade down if they get a haul. They are clearly getting good offers from the teams I mentioned.

6 and 18 might get you 5. 18 is just a nothing pick.

[RC_Drunkford]

6 and 18 might get you 5. 18 is just a nothing pick.

What does that have to do with anything I said? I don't even want Bilal or Sarr. Sarr always been hot garbage to me.

[BatManu20]

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[Mr. Body]

So you don't think much of him? Do you even want to draft him? And as for other teams, you think those offers to trade for the 2nd pick aren't serious?

No, I'm just fucking with the guy.

[Ice009]

Well, you got me too with that one ;). Darn.

[Mr. Body]

Well, you got me too with that one ;). Darn.

Sorry.

[Ice009]

Sorry.

All good. Happy you don't think Harper isn't good or anything like that.

[Spurs Brazil]

https://x.com/RutgersMBB/status/1936812370522735025

[scott]

At least we don't have to worry about the Yankees coming after Wemby or Harper

[Mnky]

Is Harper that good? Are there really teams trying to trade for him?

He's one of the best guards to come out in awhile. His biggest weakness is shooting which is most young guards. He also showed plenty of signs of being a good shooter. I have no doubt he will get there with the NBA spacing opening things up.

His overall game looks like a high floor. He is legitimately a franchise level prospect despite what some may say. If we had missed Wemby, we would be so thankful to get to draft Harper.

[scott]

He's one of the best guards to come out in awhile. His biggest weakness is shooting which is most young guards. He also showed plenty of signs of being a good shooter. I have no doubt he will get there with the NBA spacing opening things up.

His overall game looks like a high floor. He is legitimately a franchise level prospect despite what some may say. If we had missed Wemby, we would be so thankful to get to draft Harper.

And now we get both.

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[Mnky]

And now we get both.

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:lol

:lobt2:

[Mugen]

Sarr might not even be top 10 in this draft.

Sarr would definitely go top 10. Probably top 5 tbh.

[Mr. Body]

Sarr would definitely go top 10. Probably top 5 tbh.

Oh, definitely not top 5, no.

[Maddog]

Sarr would definitely go top 10. Probably top 5 tbh.


Oh, definitely not top 5, no.

Where would Castle go?

[couchman]

Would Sarr be above Maluach? It’s close for me and that’s around where I think he would land in this years list of prospects.

[CorrectCrusader]

Sarr might not even be top 10 in this draft.

He's better than Maluach. He's top 5 in this draft fs.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Don't eff it up Wright. There's nothing on the Wiz that we want.

[KobesAchilles]

Where would Castle go?
At worst 5. Id take him 4th personally. Flagg is just a great player. I’m a BIG believer in Harper over Castle as a player. I think Harper will be better than Castle at literally everything on the court (big win for us!) and I think he will be better almost immediately. And I would take a gamble on Edgecomb (who castle is better than) bc if he hits then I think he is a top 10 player in the league.

[exstatic]

Where would Castle go?

Probably 3, based on his limited exposure at UConn.

[Mr. Body]

I'd have Castle in the tier 3 group with Kon, Tre, Edgecombe. I'd probably have Clingan in that group as well, or probably just behind them in tier 4.

[Mugen]

Prospect Sarr would be the best big in this draft. He'd go ahead of Kon who people have as high as #4 to Charlotte. Like I'd have a hard time seeing the Jazz pass on Sarr if he was in this draft at #5.

Prospect Castle goes Top 10. With the benefit of what we know now after his ROTY, he'd probably go #4 again.

[Bruno]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45559441/2025-nba-mock-draft-latest-first-second-round-predictions-all-59-picks


Harper is all but assured to hear his name called with the No. 2 pick, with rival teams saying the Spurs have shown zero interest in engaging in trade conversations. The franchise is taking a patient approach to building out their roster around Victor Wembanyama, viewing Harper as another cornerstone. Harper has visited the Spurs in San Antonio, and hosted the front office privately, appearing to have considerable enthusiasm for joining the storied franchise as the Spurs look to return to championship contention.

[cd98]

Clearly the evidence shows that Harper is a player you give up many assets for, not one that you trade away from many assets. Let us enjoy the incredible lottery luck we got to be able to draft him and hope that it is a franchise-shifting event.

[John B]

At worst 5. Id take him 4th personally. Flagg is just a great player. I’m a BIG believer in Harper over Castle as a player. I think Harper will be better than Castle at literally everything on the court (big win for us!) and I think he will be better almost immediately. And I would take a gamble on Edgecomb (who castle is better than) bc if he hits then I think he is a top 10 player in the league.

That would be great! But Castle is also not a pushover. The league better be ready for this Wemby/Castle/Harper trio. If Spurs get lucky with a defensive big, watch out!

[rascal]

Clearly the evidence shows that Harper is a player you give up many assets for, not one that you trade away from many assets. Let us enjoy the incredible lottery luck we got to be able to draft him and hope that it is a franchise-shifting event.

Harper is a beast. He'll be wearing a Spurs hat in two days.

[Mugen]

Haliburton going down in Game 7 was just a stark reminder that you can never have enough lead playmakers/ballhandlers.

Pretty damn excited to have Harper next year. Hopefully the coaching staff can learn how to utilize all 3 of Fox/Castle/Harper effectively.

[cd98]

That would be great! But Castle is also not a pushover. The league better be ready for this Wemby/Castle/Harper trio. If Spurs get lucky with a defensive big, watch out!

I actually think Castle and Harper can be the Bulls version of Jordan and Harper on defense. Between Jordan, Harper, and Pippen, backcourts hated dealing with the Bulls.

[BackHome]

Well I keep hearing Mitch is an offensive genius so hopefully it is true

[John B]

I actually think Castle and Harper can be the Bulls version of Jordan and Harper on defense. Between Jordan, Harper, and Pippen, backcourts hated dealing with the Bulls.

A lot on Sochan’s shoulders to prove himself this year. He’s an above average defender if he can avoid being an offensive liability. I wonder how much the Spurs are weighing on Sochan to be that guy. Knowing the Spurs they don’t give up on their player easily, and could be the reason for not signing a player like John Collins for instance.

[Chomag]

I just have this feeling that Harper is going to be a very special player in a couple of years

[poopbox]

Clearly the evidence shows that Harper is a player you give up many assets for, not one that you trade away from many assets. Let us enjoy the incredible lottery luck we got to be able to draft him and hope that it is a franchise-shifting event.

It's only specific teams who don't have a point guard calling about Harper.

No team with a top 12 point guard is calling about Harper. Like the cavs are not beating down our door offering us stuff to pair Harper and Mitchell.

And yet the Spurs who have a top 12 point guard are going to draft Harper

HHHHmmmmm....:spin

[RC_Drunkford]

Wemby/Harper could become the best 1-2 punch since Kobe and Shaq

[SpursFan86]

Wemby/Harper could become the best 1-2 punch since Kobe and Shaq

Yeah, I don’t know if people realize how crazy the potential for this duo is. MVP-caliber big in Wemby paired with someone who could become a top 3-5 guard in the league…exciting stuff.

[Holt's Cat]

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/45559441/2025-nba-mock-draft-latest-first-second-round-predictions-all-59-picks

Sure of course he is going to be interested in being drafted #2 but man it’s good to hear about players wanting to be in SA

I was assured once upon a time that’d never be the case

[Holt's Cat]

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[ambchang]

I hope the fox, Harper castle trio can push each other to drastic improvements. Those scrimmages could be epic.

[PhantomDashCam]

Harper is a beast. He'll be wearing a Spurs hat in two days.

Yes, but for how long... :stirpot:

[Holt's Cat]

Castle/Fox/Harper should be able to coexist

There’s 96 minutes a game between the 1 and 2, extra minutes with 3 guard lineups.

Key will be forwards who can shoot.

[T Park]

OKC just won a championship playing 3 guard lineups…

[mudyez]

Imagine Flagg going down...

it could be Wemby/2ndyearChet all over again between Harper and 2ndyearTopic.

[Light]

Seems like a good dude. Looking forward to seeing him in the Silver & Black.


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