Shaq is a Cavalier

[Allanon]

I don't get how this is a risk. Getting Marbury would be a risk. Going into the season with the same roster as this year would be a risk. How is getting 18ppg a risk? I mean the Cavs won 66 games with basically the same guys they will have next year without Shaq. Shaq could sit out the whole regular season and the Cavs would still have a top 3 seed in the East. I don't understand the risk, and it's not like the Cavs are finished making moves.

The risk is bad chemistry. Shaq's a team killer.

Look at the Magic, look at the Lakers, look at the Heat and look at the Suns. He's 4 for 4 in giving the gift of the lotto.

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i think getting Chris Bosh would have been a better investment for the Cavs. then again, perhaps they are waiting for 2010.

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The risk is bad chemistry. This Cavs team made it to the ECF. There is also risk in missing out on other trades. Cavs are set now, they can't make any more huge moves. They have just paid $20 million to a guy who should be a backup.

If Shaq starts demanding touches, they might hit the lotto.

You're a ing moron.

[Allanon]

You're a ing moron.

You're a ing moron.

[TheMACHINE]

I don't get how this is a risk. Getting Marbury would be a risk. Going into the season with the same roster as this year would be a risk. How is getting 18ppg a risk? I mean the Cavs won 66 games with basically the same guys they will have next year without Shaq. Shaq could sit out the whole regular season and the Cavs would still have a top 3 seed in the East. I don't understand the risk, and it's not like the Cavs are finished making moves.

You're just looking into the positives.

[Thunder Dan]

The risk is bad chemistry. This Cavs team made it to the ECF. There is also risk in missing out on other trades. Cavs are set now, they can't make any more huge moves. They have just paid $20 million to a guy who should be a backup.

If Shaq starts demanding touches, they might hit the lotto.

if there is bad chemistry there is a guy that makes $20,000,000 they can trade as an expiring contract. Better trade bait than the $14,000,000 Ben Wallace was making. How you like that?

[JamStone]

The risk is bad chemistry. This Cavs team made it to the ECF. There is also risk in missing out on other trades. Cavs are set now, they can't make any more huge moves. They have just paid $20 million to a guy who should be a backup.

If Shaq starts demanding touches, they might hit the lotto.

Any move carries a "risk" that the trade will result in chemistry problems. You could say the same thing about possible chemistry issues if the Cavs traded for Dwight Howard but you wouldn't call that a risky move.

And, this trade was about 4 months in the making. They started talking about it midseason. The Cavs were at a point where they had exhausted other trade possibilities. They aren't risking on missing out on other trades because they waited four months trying to make a better trade before making this one.

You're searching for ways to criticize the trade. I agree that it doesn't guarantee anything. It doesn't guarantee a le or even that the Cavs would beat the Celtics or Magic. But, there is no "real" risk in the trade.

[xtremesteven33]

Cavaliers problem is at the 2 spot not so much the 5 spot.

[Thunder Dan]

You're just looking into the positives.

and nobody is making sense with negatives.

[Allanon]

Any move carries a "risk" that the trade will result in chemistry problems. You could say the same thing about possible chemistry issues if the Cavs traded for Dwight Howard but you wouldn't call that a risky move.

And, this trade was about 4 months in the making. They started talking about it midseason. The Cavs were at a point where they had exhausted other trade possibilities. They aren't risking on missing out on other trades because they waited four months trying to make a better trade before making this one.

You're searching for ways to criticize the trade. I agree that it doesn't guarantee anything. It doesn't guarantee a le or even that the Cavs would beat the Celtics or Magic. But, there is no "real" risk in the trade.

Not at all, I'm happy for the Lakers; Cavs won't be a threat. Just tellin' it like it is.

Shaq's 4 for 4 in giving the gift of the lotto...those are overwhelming odds for bad chemistry.

[Thunder Dan]

i think getting Chris Bosh would have been a better investment for the Cavs. then again, perhaps they are waiting for 2010.

that is the Cavs' #1 choice, but the Raptors won't trade him this summer, no way. They want fans for the 2009-10 season

[JamStone]

The risk is bad chemistry. Shaq's a team killer.

Look at the Magic, look at the Lakers, look at the Heat and look at the Suns. He's 4 for 4 in giving the gift of the lotto.

Yes look at the Magic, Lakers, Heat, and Suns. 4 NBA les, 6 NBA Finals appearances in 17 seasons. I think the City of Cleveland will take Shaq being a cancer and team killer if he helps them win a le.

[TheMACHINE]

Any move carries a "risk" that the trade will result in chemistry problems. You could say the same thing about possible chemistry issues if the Cavs traded for Dwight Howard but you wouldn't call that a risky move.

And, this trade was about 4 months in the making. They started talking about it midseason. The Cavs were at a point where they had exhausted other trade possibilities. They aren't risking on missing out on other trades because they waited four months trying to make a better trade before making this one.

You're searching for ways to criticize the trade. I agree that it doesn't guarantee anything. It doesn't guarantee a le or even that the Cavs would beat the Celtics or Magic. But, there is no "real" risk in the trade.

No real risk? lol. Its Shaq for Gods sake.

[Thunder Dan]

I'm still waiting for the risks other than "chemistry" which the Cavs were #1 in this year and didn't win. Chemistry was the reason the Suns didn't win with Shaq? How about the fact that they didn't play defense, or run a style Shaq was well suited in

[JamStone]

Not at all, I'm happy for the Lakers; Cavs won't be a threat. Just tellin' it like it is.

Shaq's 4 for 4 in giving the gift of the lotto...those are overwhelming odds for bad chemistry.

Three out of the four teams Shaq's been on went to the NBA Finals soon after acquiring him, two out of those three won NBA les.

If the "gift of the lotto" follows an NBA le, Cavs fans will take it.

[Thunder Dan]

No real risk? lol. Its Shaq for Gods sake.

you still have failed to identify the risk involved. You keep hinting at it, but have not given us the risk. Give me a scenario that in March, the Cavs will have wished they had Ben Wallace playing on their team rather than Shaq.

[TheMACHINE]

and nobody is making sense with negatives.

it may not make sense, but we've seen it happen with Shaq. Anyways, im not gonna spoil your celebration. Congrats.

[cornbread]

The Cavs are at risk of being a championship contender.

[Brazil]

Anyone who thinks this is a bad trade for Cleveland has some serious issues. Congrats on the trade Thunder Dan.

[Allanon]

Yes look at the Magic, Lakers, Heat, and Suns. 4 NBA les, 6 NBA Finals appearances in 17 seasons. I think the City of Cleveland will take Shaq being a cancer and team killer if he helps them win a le.

Yup 4 les...the last of which was 3 years ago. He only delivered punchlines and games off in Phoenix.

By the time the Playoffs roll around, Shaq's going to be 38 years old.

[JamStone]

No real risk? lol. Its Shaq for Gods sake.

They gave up Ben Wallace's expiring contract, Sasha Pavlovic, and a middle of the second round draft pick. Shaq on the Cavs might not work, but for what they gave up in return and the fact Shaq's contract is expiring, there was no risk involved.

[Spur-Addict]

no hate, im just stating the obvious....that shaq is washed up and couldnt even help a team with a 2 time mvp and all stars. Instead of helping, the team turned into the #1 team into the Western Conference to missing the playoffs. Im just laughing at people (Fans and GM's) who think the Big Hypocrisy is the answer to thier problems.

You mean, the team with no defense? You mean, the team with two all stars who can't guard anybody? I see.

Shaq didn't turn that team into what it is now. Steve Kerr did.

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lol laker fans

[JamStone]

Yup 4 les...the last of which was 3 years ago. He only delivered punchlines and games off in Phoenix.

By the time the Playoffs roll around, Shaq's going to be 38 years old.

This is where you start changing your argument. You want to go all the way back to Orlando and the Lakers to show how Shaq is a team killer, but you won't even go back 3 years to when he helped a team win a championship.

Listen, I personally don't think Shaq puts the Cavs over the top. I don't even think Shaq helps the Cavs beat a healthy Celtics team. I'm just saying for what they gave up and since Shaq's contract is expiring, there was no risk involved for the Cavs to make this trade.

[ginobili's bald spot]

This is a low risk high reward situation for the Cavs no matter how you slice it. They basically got Shaq for nothing so how could it be a risk? Even if he got hurt or something it's not like they gave anything up to get him and his contract expires at the end of the season so they still have flexibility.