Secret hearing marks end of Duncans' union

[xmas1997]

See my last post, not most recent, not final, not next, not first, not previous, and not prior. Past tense, idiots.

[Skull-1]

And just to make clear by my own conscience im incapable of good. Our definition of good isnt God's. Only He is good. Only those works we allow Him to work through us by the Holy Spirit are the ones that count for anything. Only those done in His name and for His Word and glory. Our own attempts to follow our conscience and do good are like filthy rags to His holiness

...Baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience. - 1 Peter 3

[xmas1997]

...Baptism now saves you—not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience. - 1 Peter 3

And what have I been telling you all along from my first to last post? A good God given conscience is what you need, but sorely lack.
So go back and read my last post, it was there too.

[Skull-1]

And what have I been telling you all along from my first to last post? A good God given conscience is what you need, but sorely lack.
So go back and read my last post, it was there too.

You don't even have the scriptures on marriage or judgment correct, thus it is impossible for you to have a God given good conscience. Impossible. "The scripture cannot CANNOT CANNOT be broken." Not even by a pathetic little worm like you.

[Blake]

I am saying that the OT was referred to directly by Christ as a prophecy and a testimony of Him. His direct words say so.

In terms of Christ performing miracles we have no definitive evidence one way or the other, so that would be a matter of faith. In any event, whether it actually happened (walking on water, healing the sick, or raising the dead) is irrelevant. The events about Christ speak to a higher spiritual meaning. A prophecy that is repeated in every generation. It is way deeper than some history about a hippie in sandals pissing off religious leaders and hanging out with a group of homeless dudes.

There's nothing anywhere in the NT that refers to the OT as just parables.

the new testament itself clearly says Jesus was walking on water. If he didn't, then the word of God lied.

[Skull-1]

See my last post, not most recent, not final, not next, not first, not previous, and not prior. Past tense, idiots.

Troll. Success!

"All your troll are belong to us."

[Skull-1]

the new testament clearly says Jesus was walking on water. If he didn't, then the word of God lied.

Thats not how it works. The scriptures are veiled. Only those with spiritual eyes can see.

I personally believe He did, but it wouldn't surprise me if He didn't. It doesn't change the point being made.

[Skull-1]

There's nothing anywhere in the NT that refers to the OT as just parables.

the new testament itself clearly says Jesus was walking on water. If he didn't, then the word of God lied.

Also, you show your ignorance of scripture. I have already quoted Christ and Paul explaining that the OT is prophecy and testimony. That Christ spoke in parables because He saw God doing so. That they are Jewish myths and fables.

[xmas1997]

You don't even have the scriptures on marriage or judgment correct, thus it is impossible for you to have a God given good conscience. Impossible. "The scripture cannot CANNOT CANNOT be broken." Not even by a pathetic little worm like you.

You keep spewing your false gospel and you keep judging me where you have no right to judge. You don't even know me, so yours are the empty meaningless words from a false Christian and demon worshiper. You've already been established as and discovered to be a troll.
Why should we ever believe any of your hypocritical lies?
And the only thing veiled is your twisted conception of the truth.
You may as well admit you failed miserably.

[Blake]

Thats not how it works. The scriptures are veiled. Only those with spiritual eyes can see.

I personally believe He did, but it wouldn't surprise me if He didn't. It doesn't change the point being made.

Nothing anywhere says the scriptures are veiled.

You made that up.

[Skull-1]

The Son can only do what He has seen the Father doing. - John 5:19



Since Christ spoke in parables to the crowd that means God did, too. That's the Old Testament. Anyone who thinks that stuff is literal is not very bright.


Paul refers to these as Jewish MYTHS and FABLES. us 1:14. 2 Timothy 4:4. There are other references that clue you into the fact that the Ark story isn't literal. Jonah and the whale is an obviousarable about the resurrection.


They are parables about Jesus.




"All of the Prophets and the Law (the Old Testament) prophesied until John." - Matthew 11:13




"You search the scriptures (The Old Testament) because in them you think you will find eternal life. THEY TESTIFY OF ME (Christ)." - John 5:39

[Skull-1]

Nothing anywhere says the scriptures are veiled.

You made that up.

Okay, genius. Why did Jesus speak in parables then?

[Blake]

Also, you show your ignorance of scripture. I have already quoted Christ and Paul explaining that the OT is prophecy and testimony. That Christ spoke in parables because He saw God doing so. That they are Jewish myths and fables.

prophecy/testimony do not equal parables.

You're making up your own reason as to why Christ spoke in parables.

[Skull-1]

Nothing anywhere says the scriptures are veiled.

You made that up.

Epic fail.

For to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away. 15Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. 16But when oned turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. - 2 Corinthians 3:14-16


There are many others. Answer why Jesus spoke in parables. Come on...

[Blake]

Okay, genius. Why did Jesus speak in parables then?

Good analogies help make speaking points.

[TSA]

Looks like Blake is closing in on a Sunday Internet win.

[xmas1997]

Good analogies help make speaking points.

How right you are!
But you'll never convince skull, because he is a troll trying to get under your skin and failing miserably to do so.

[Skull-1]

prophecy/testimony do not equal parables.

You're making up your own reason as to why Christ spoke in parables.

Oh, I am? Really, bag?


Okay numb nuts. I will do the work for you in the hope you might see...

9And when his disciples asked him what this parable meant, 10he said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God, but for others they are in parables, so that ‘seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’ - Luke 8:9-10



And from Matthew with more detail...


10Then the disciples came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” 11And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 13This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says:


“‘You will indeed hear but never understand,
and you will indeed see but never perceive.
15 For this people’s heart has grown dull,
and with their ears they can barely hear,
and their eyes they have closed,
lest they should see with their eyes
and hear with their ears
and understand with their heart
and turn, and I would heal them.’


16But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear. - Matthew 13:10-16

[Skull-1]

Looks like Blake is closing in on a Sunday Internet win.

Not even close. Do you know how to read?

[Skull-1]

Good analogies help make speaking points.

The analogies they draw are veiled, you stupid azz.

[xmas1997]

The analogies they draw are veiled, you stupid ass.

And so are your eyes, to the Truth.
Don't you see?
Oops, I guess not, asswipe!
You just don't have the balls to admit when you lose.
Epic fail on your part.

[Blake]

Epic fail.

For to this day, when they read the old covenant, that same veil remains unlifted, because only through Christ is it taken away. 15Yes, to this day whenever Moses is read a veil lies over their hearts. 16But when oned turns to the Lord, the veil is removed. - 2 Corinthians 3:14-16


There are many others. Answer why Jesus spoke in parables. Come on...

The scriptures aren't veiled. Their hearts, minds, eyes and other body parts I guess are veiled.

epic meltdown.

[Skull-1]

The scriptures aren't veiled. Their hearts, minds, eyes and other body parts I guess are veiled.

epic meltdown.

Wrong!


"All this I have spoken to you in veiled language. The time is coming when I shall no longer speak to you in veiled language, but will tell you about the Father in plain words." - John 16:25

And the veil is only removed in Christ. You cannot see Heavenly things as a carnal person. Period.


You have to be in Christ.

[Blake]

Oh, I am? Really, bag?


Okay numb nuts. I will do the work for you in the hope you might see...

9And when his disciples asked him what this parable meant, 10he said, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of God, but for others they are in parables, so that ‘seeing they may not see, and hearing they may not understand.’ - Luke 8:9-10



And from Matthew with more detail...


10Then the disciples came and said to him, “Why do you speak to them in parables?” 11And he answered them, “To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given. 12For to the one who has, more will be given, and he will have an abundance, but from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. 13This is why I speak to them in parables, because seeing they do not see, and hearing they do not hear, nor do they understand. 14Indeed, in their case the prophecy of Isaiah is fulfilled that says:


“‘You will indeed hear but never understand,
and you will indeed see but never perceive.
15 For this people’s heart has grown dull,
and with their ears they can barely hear,
and their eyes they have closed,
lest they should see with their eyes
and hear with their ears
and understand with their heart
and turn, and I would heal them.’


16But blessed are your eyes, for they see, and your ears, for they hear. - Matthew 13:10-16

Yeah, sounds like a long winded way of saying that although the disciples get the message, other people need a good story to make it make sense.

[xmas1997]

Wrong!


And the veil is only removed in Christ. You cannot see Heavenly things as a carnal person. Period.


You have to be in Christ.

It's pretty obvious that you are not in Christ.
More like you think you are Christ risen from the dead.