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spurraider21

07-23-2021, 02:16 AM

For all we know, it is concurrent. Loki does state he has no idea how much time has past since New York. The entire show could take place the course of years while Wanda-Vision takes place three weeks after End-Game. Maybe when they meet Kang, Kang senses that something is up.

Does Kang exist out of time? His death occurred near the end time but he said that his variants were coming even though he defeated them thousands of years before. Loki gets transported back to the TVA afterwards and the time got changed there too.
When loki was pruned don’t they supposedly get send to the end of time or whatever? As opposed to scarlet witch being in the 21st century?

Trainwreck2100

07-23-2021, 03:59 AM

Does Kang exist out of time? His death occurred near the end time but he said that his variants were coming even though he defeated them thousands of years before. Loki gets transported back to the TVA afterwards and the time got changed there too.

He has to how else would killing him make more of him, if he simply died at the end of time than there shouldn't have been more timelines made.

cd021

07-23-2021, 04:44 AM

When loki was pruned don’t they supposedly get send to the end of time or whatever? As opposed to scarlet witch being in the 21st century?
True but doesn't him saying that him dying would cause other Kangs to appear, even though he defeated them thousands of years before, mean that time isn't linear? The timeline is apparently a big loop outside of his citadel, and maybe it exists out of time but Wanda is so powerful that he felt something there.

Also, Agatha says that the SW shouldn't exist, meaning that maybe Kang didn't know specifically that she was going to transform.

cd021

07-23-2021, 04:48 AM

He has to how else would killing him make more of him, if he simply died at the end of time than there shouldn't have been more timelines made.
I don't think the timeline is actually a straight line, instead a loop. He may exist out of it but he can still feel things in it. He oversees the TVA. Without him, timelines branch off and maybe when time loops around, the other Kangs that were defeated instead begin to time travel and wreck shit.

LaMarcus Bryant

07-23-2021, 07:49 AM

That's fucking idiotic, kang exists out of time so scarlett witch becoming scarlett witch both already happened and didn't happen yet when he said that.

I think the implication is that the nature of the SW existing is a game/timeline changer.
Given the extent of her powers in the comics it make sense

Plus with a multiverse things simultaneously do and don't make sense :lol

spurraider21

07-23-2021, 10:23 AM

True but doesn't him saying that him dying would cause other Kangs to appear, even though he defeated them thousands of years before, mean that time isn't linear? The timeline is apparently a big loop outside of his citadel, and maybe it exists out of time but Wanda is so powerful that he felt something there.

Also, Agatha says that the SW shouldn't exist, meaning that maybe Kang didn't know specifically that she was going to transform.
The fuck does Agatha know about the timelines lol

cd021

07-23-2021, 12:21 PM

The fuck does Agatha know about the timelines lol
She doesn't have to know anything about timelines to know that the SW shouldn't exist because she's too powerful. Wanda was pulling off complex magic that Agatha had never seen in more than 400 years without even trying. Agatha knows Wanda can do some crazy shit.

spurraider21

07-23-2021, 12:24 PM

She doesn't have to know anything about timelines to know that the SW shouldn't exist because she's too powerful. Wanda was pulling off complex magic that Agatha had never seen in more than 400 years without even trying. Agatha knows Wanda can do some crazy shit.
sure. but again you're specifically connecting this to Kang and the timelines. saying "you shouldnt exist" isnt the same as saying "you dont belong in this timeline/reality"

i think its a stretch

LaMarcus Bryant

07-23-2021, 12:52 PM

sure. but again you're specifically connecting this to Kang and the timelines. saying "you shouldnt exist" isnt the same as saying "you dont belong in this timeline/reality"

i think its a stretch

I think he's saying Agatha was stating her fear of the unknown which coincidentally may be related to Kang's nexus moment somehow

who knows lol. Show did it's job if we're doing all this weird speculating

spurraider21

07-23-2021, 12:59 PM

I think he's saying Agatha was stating her fear of the unknown which coincidentally may be related to Kang's nexus moment somehow

who knows lol. Show did it's job if we're doing all this weird speculating
or the weird speculating is just a consequence of bored fans

there was all this speculation about Tony Stark's left arm always being injured. but he snapped with his right :lol

LaMarcus Bryant

07-23-2021, 01:02 PM

or the weird speculating is just a consequence of bored fans

there was all this speculation about Tony Stark's left arm always being injured. but he snapped with his right :lol

lol never heard of that one.

Has anyone even talked about the Black Widow movie in this thread? lol poor sexy scarlett

Trainwreck2100

07-23-2021, 01:07 PM

I don't think the timeline is actually a straight line, instead a loop. He may exist out of it but he can still feel things in it. He oversees the TVA. Without him, timelines branch off and maybe when time loops around, the other Kangs that were defeated instead begin to time travel and wreck shit.

I think the implication is that the nature of the SW existing is a game/timeline changer.
Given the extent of her powers in the comics it make sense

Plus with a multiverse things simultaneously do and don't make sense :lol

kang is from the 3000s, earlier they acknowledge the avengers had to go to the past which means endgame had to happen, if endgame had to happen the SW has to become SW because it's a direct result of endgame. SW should not have been a surprise to him

cd021

07-23-2021, 06:42 PM

kang is from the 3000s, earlier they acknowledge the avengers had to go to the past which means endgame had to happen, if endgame had to happen the SW has to become SW because it's a direct result of endgame. SW should not have been a surprise to him

The whole events of Loki take place because of a mistake that occurs during the events of Endgame. If that can happen, then Wanda turning into the SW might've not been meant to be either, or at least foreseen.

cd021

07-23-2021, 08:20 PM

sure. but again you're specifically connecting this to Kang and the timelines. saying "you shouldnt exist" isnt the same as saying "you dont belong in this timeline/reality"

i think its a stretch

I mean that Agatha knows that the Scarlett Witch is incredibly powerful and therefore dangerous, she doesn't have to know about timelines and Kang to make that assumption.

As for Kang, his demeanor changes after that moment. It could very well have nothing to do with Wanda but iirc Immortus (a Kang variant) has an obsession with Wanda in the comics. It could be foreshadowing that.

spurraider21

07-23-2021, 08:32 PM

I mean that Agatha knows that the Scarlett Witch is incredibly powerful and therefore dangerous, she doesn't have to know about timelines and Kang to make that assumption.

As for Kang, his demeanor changes after that moment. It could very well have nothing to do with Wanda but iirc Immortus (a Kang variant) has an obsession with Wanda in the comics. It could be foreshadowing that.
after WHAT moment? where is the demonstration that scarlet witch/agatha battle was somehow concurrently happening to the Kang scene?

i could clip the Kang scene and put it alongside the dramatic reveal of The Sixth Sense, time them together, and pretend THAT is what Kang was responding to.

Kang said that he was from the 31st century or some shit (and was at the "end of time" or whatever in that place they get sent to after being pruned), which would be a millenium after scarlet witch and agatha fought

Thanos

07-23-2021, 10:14 PM

You guys analyze and think about this way more than anybody at Disney did when they wrote it :lol

Thanos

07-23-2021, 10:16 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ub3jCFh5W2Y

Apparently Wanda-Vision and Loki sync's up perfectly.
This just means the formula is a little too perfect

spurraider21

07-24-2021, 12:06 AM

You guys analyze and think about this way more than anybody at Disney did when they wrote it :lol
yeah i think these guys are the equivalent of seeing jesus in a dogs asshole

lefty20

07-24-2021, 12:14 AM

You guys analyze and think about this way more than anybody at Disney did when they wrote it :lol

Eh, what else is there to do(on a MCU thread) besides theory craft until the next IP is released?

The same thing literally happens when a new book is released in a epic fantasy/sci-fi series. People will devour it, then start connecting wild dots and come up with crazy theories while waiting for the next book, tbh.

lefty

07-24-2021, 02:03 AM

The whole events of Loki take place because of a mistake that occurs during the events of Endgame. If that can happen, then Wanda turning into the SW might've not been meant to be either, or at least foreseen.

Because Hulk took the fucking stairs

The multiverse clusterfuck we’re gonna see in the MCU is happening because Hulk took the stairs :lol

Xevious

07-24-2021, 08:36 AM

You guys analyze and think about this way more than anybody at Disney did when they wrote it :lol
Agree. I know Scarlet Witch is a nexus character and she will play a big part in this next phase. But I guarantee Marvel/Disney didn't intend to have those two scenes play together.

cd021

07-24-2021, 08:50 AM

Because Hulk took the fucking stairs

The multiverse clusterfuck we’re gonna see in the MCU is happening because Hulk took the stairs :lol

That supports my argument though. If the events of endgame were supposed to happen then the Hulk taking the stairs would've always happened and that means the events of Loki were supposed to happen too even though they specifically said that wasn't supposed to happen.

cd021

07-24-2021, 09:10 AM

after WHAT moment? where is the demonstration that scarlet witch/agatha battle was somehow concurrently happening to the Kang scene?

i could clip the Kang scene and put it alongside the dramatic reveal of The Sixth Sense, time them together, and pretend THAT is what Kang was responding to.

Kang said that he was from the 31st century or some shit (and was at the "end of time" or whatever in that place they get sent to after being pruned), which would be a millenium after scarlet witch and agatha fought

Fair enough. Though it seems clear that isn't a straight line despite what was shown in Endgame and at the TVA. Time appears to be a circle. Kang being killed and having his variants appear would support that, because how else would they appear if he defeated them thousands of years before? Also isn't the void at the end of time and doesn't this Kang exist outside of time?

cd021

07-24-2021, 09:14 AM

Has anyone even talked about the Black Widow movie in this thread? lol poor sexy scarlett

Random comments but mostly Loki.

Thought the movie was fine, it didn't exceed expectations but it didn't underwhelm. Red Guardian stole the show but he did get smacked around by Task Master, which was weird.

lefty

07-25-2021, 01:56 PM

That supports my argument though. If the events of endgame were supposed to happen then the Hulk taking the stairs would've always happened and that means the events of Loki were supposed to happen too even though they specifically said that wasn't supposed to happen.

I’m saying Hulk for the jokes but it’s actually the 2023 Avengers time travelling that led to the Loki events, because 2023 Tony was in the vicinity of the stairs exit while carrying the Space Stone

cd021

07-26-2021, 01:11 AM

I’m saying Hulk for the jokes but it’s actually the 2023 Avengers time travelling that led to the Loki events, because 2023 Tony was in the vicinity of the stairs exit while carrying the Space Stone
Yeah but my point is if Endgame was supposed to happen then the events of Loki was supposed to happen too, even though they said that Loki wasn't supposed to survive the events of endgame. Then later on, Kang says that Loki and Slyvie were supposed to end up in his castle. That's confusing.

cd021

07-26-2021, 01:13 AM

https://thedirect.com/article/hawkeye-jeremy-renner-kingpin-mcu-rumors

Rumor has it that Kingpin is set to appear in Hawkeye :wow

LaMarcus Bryant

07-26-2021, 07:57 AM

https://thedirect.com/article/hawkeye-jeremy-renner-kingpin-mcu-rumors

Rumor has it that Kingpin is set to appear in Hawkeye :wow

Will it include heavy breathing apnea tony soprano wannabe Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin or a new Kingpin

leemajors

07-26-2021, 09:04 AM

Will it include heavy breathing apnea tony soprano wannabe Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin or a new Kingpin

Said Vinny D in article. I liked him in Daredevil personally

Blake

07-26-2021, 09:34 AM

https://thedirect.com/article/hawkeye-jeremy-renner-kingpin-mcu-rumors

Rumor has it that Kingpin is set to appear in Hawkeye :wow

Ehhh, seems like an odd villain for Hawkeye

LaMarcus Bryant

07-26-2021, 11:30 AM

Said Vinny D in article. I liked him in Daredevil personally

I did too I just wanted to see Daredevil and Punisher shit kick the bejeezus out of his heavyset ass

Xevious

07-26-2021, 11:36 AM

cd021

07-26-2021, 11:55 AM

Ehhh, seems like an odd villain for Hawkeye

I doubt it'll be more than just a cameo... just enough to reintroduce him to the MCU. Charlie Cox is supposedly going to be brought back at some point as well.

I think it is just a cameo. Apparently the Tracksuit Mafia, Yelena, and Madame masque are supposed to the villain's.

LaMarcus Bryant

07-26-2021, 12:32 PM

I doubt it'll be more than just a cameo... just enough to reintroduce him to the MCU. Charlie Cox is supposedly going to be brought back at some point as well.

:tu :tu
Daredevil was freakin great overall....just a little wonky with the side plots in 2nd half of every season.

cd021

07-26-2021, 01:05 PM

Will it include heavy breathing apnea tony soprano wannabe Vincent D'Onofrio's Kingpin or a new Kingpin

Said Vinny D in article. I liked him in Daredevil personally

Yeah it's supposed to be D'Onofrio. He's apparently been really vocal about about reprising Kingpin.

LaMarcus Bryant

08-02-2021, 03:28 PM

Venom trailer looks whack af. Maybe it was coincidence but Tom Hardy is trying to be funny in every line wtf, not even Venom's style.... I prob jack it to Woody Harrelson every fortnight but he's horribly miscast here. At least they ditched his fakey looking hair from the Venom 1 post credits..

lefty

08-04-2021, 09:31 AM

https://twitter.com/lovethundernews/status/1422765704785321985

spurraider21

08-04-2021, 10:34 AM

Ehhh, seems like an odd villain for Hawkeye
hawkeye vs bullseye tbh

Blake

08-04-2021, 11:46 AM

hawkeye vs bullseye tbh

Lol.

Just seems like Hawkeye is more into international spy affairs vs fighting New York street thugs

LaMarcus Bryant

08-04-2021, 12:30 PM

Lol.

Just seems like Hawkeye is more into international spy affairs vs fighting New York street thugs

The only way Hawkeye is worth watching is if they continue to buff his ass out of character like they've done with all the regular non superhumans. They nerf superhumans in the middle (winter soldier, Loki) and increase the ability of a black widow or hawkeye so they can hang with someone who should be able to split their skull with their bare hands effortlessly :lol

Blake

08-04-2021, 12:52 PM

The only way Hawkeye is worth watching is if they continue to buff his ass out of character like they've done with all the regular non superhumans. They nerf superhumans in the middle (winter soldier, Loki) and increase the ability of a black widow or hawkeye so they can hang with someone who should be able to split their skull with their bare hands effortlessly :lol

:lol truth

LaMarcus Bryant

08-04-2021, 01:33 PM

:lol truth

Nothing against the character or the actor, I think Hawkeye is great. Does he deserve his own show and am I hype for it? Lol not really but whatever.

pookenstein

08-06-2021, 10:17 AM

Random comments but mostly Loki.

Thought the movie was fine, it didn't exceed expectations but it didn't underwhelm. Red Guardian stole the show but he did get smacked around by Task Master, which was weird.

Strong female character vs sideshow male character. It's the current formula. Nothing weird about it. Captain Marvel, Batwoman series, Star Wars Rey. Etc. etc

TDMVPDPOY

08-07-2021, 02:14 AM

lefty

08-09-2021, 01:08 PM

https://twitter.com/spideyupdated/status/1424489001034080257

https://twitter.com/spideyupdated/status/1424499304656482306

https://twitter.com/SpiderMan3news/status/1424497140588556297

LaMarcus Bryant

08-09-2021, 01:17 PM

So Holland's spidey is gonna go from being Mini Iron Man to Mini Dr. strange? Is this stuff all lore? :lol

lefty

08-09-2021, 01:20 PM

So Holland's spidey is gonna go from being Mini Iron Man to Mini Dr. strange? Is this stuff all lore? :lol
I agree with you, shit is annoying

I don't hate MCU's take on Spidey but I hate that they have to include other superheroes in his movies

IIRC the Marvel/Sony contract has a clause stating that there must be at least another Marvel Studios character in each Spidey movie

Blake

08-09-2021, 07:34 PM

I'm cool with strange being in the spideyverse because of Benedict. Better than having skrull Fury again.

Trainwreck2100

08-09-2021, 09:52 PM

https://twitter.com/spideyupdated/status/1424489001034080257

https://twitter.com/spideyupdated/status/1424499304656482306

https://twitter.com/SpiderMan3news/status/1424497140588556297

that spidey costume, got the maguire ridges for lines

lefty

08-09-2021, 11:50 PM

I'm cool with strange being in the spideyverse because of Benedict. Better than having skrull Fury again.
It also makes sens to have him there because of the multiverse

spurraider21

08-10-2021, 12:26 PM

:lol Kang as the architect from matrix reloaded is perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHcfWy4BWIk

lefty

08-10-2021, 12:31 PM

:lol Kang as the architect from matrix reloaded is perfect

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHcfWy4BWIk

Not surprised someone did this :lol
I too got a Matrix Architect vibe during that scene

LaMarcus Bryant

08-11-2021, 05:47 PM

No posts about What if? ???
:lol

Watching as soon as I can.

lefty20

08-11-2021, 07:17 PM

No posts about What if? ???
:lol

Watching as soon as I can.

I'll be watching it tonight. Not as hyped for this as it really doesn't move the MCU saga forwards, similar to BW. It's more fan service than anything else.

Blake

08-11-2021, 07:33 PM

Yeah I liked What If comics when I was a kid but the "problem" with them for me is that they're just individual one-offs.

cd021

08-11-2021, 08:25 PM

What If...? was pretty good tbh. Didn't know what to expect but it was fine.

cd021

08-11-2021, 08:27 PM

Yeah I liked What If comics when I was a kid but the "problem" with them for me is that they're just individual one-offs.
Apparent this is going to be interconnected. Captain Carter is supposed to return in later seasons and T'Challa is supposed to appear in 4 of the 9 episodes.

LaMarcus Bryant

08-12-2021, 11:28 AM

I'll be watching it tonight. Not as hyped for this as it really doesn't move the MCU saga forwards, similar to BW. It's more fan service than anything else.

yeah...just like the comic. thats the whole point lol

My favorites growing up were What If X-men lost Inferno and What If Juggernaut killed Professor X

Great shit. Twilight-zone esque.

Blake

08-12-2021, 07:07 PM

Apparent this is going to be interconnected. Captain Carter is supposed to return in later seasons and T'Challa is supposed to appear in 4 of the 9 episodes.

Well now that's pretty cool if so. Episode 1 was entertaining enough.

LaMarcus Bryant

08-12-2021, 09:43 PM

Fun stuff. Carter got Amazonian and thicc

leemajors

08-15-2021, 09:36 AM

Fun stuff. Carter got Amazonian and thicc

Yeah that was great, loved the animation style too.

lefty20

08-15-2021, 04:31 PM

yeah...just like the comic. thats the whole point lol

My favorites growing up were What If X-men lost Inferno and What If Juggernaut killed Professor X

Great shit. Twilight-zone esque.

Huh, didn't know there was a What if comic series as well.

I had assumed that all episodes would be set in different realities and therefore the characters would never intersect. But it sounds like there will be some sort overarching connection.

In conclusion... You son of a bitch, I'm in.

Blake

08-15-2021, 04:55 PM

I had plenty of them at one point but the one I definitely remember is this one:

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/marveldatabase/images/6/6e/What_If%3F_Vol_1_19.jpg

LaMarcus Bryant

08-16-2021, 07:42 AM

I bet there's already so much Rule 34 stuff on Amazonian Carter and scrawny Rogers :lol

lefty

08-16-2021, 08:06 AM

I bet there's already so much Rule 34 stuff on Amazonian Carter and scrawny Rogers :lol
:lol tbh

lefty20

08-18-2021, 02:59 AM

That episode was kinda hilarious, tbh.

LaMarcus Bryant

08-19-2021, 03:20 PM

That episode was kinda hilarious, tbh.

Re-watching tonight for sure :lol

"Captain Genocide" roflroflrofl
Good shit good shit.

Even did a fanservice boner giving Howard The Duck more screen time :lol

Texas_Ranger

08-19-2021, 06:48 PM

its nice knowing the lead actor of Shang Chi is a retard. ''i didnt have any asians to look at when growing up on screen''.... They did the same thing with Black Panther and Wonder Woman. Looks like Hollywood has no idea they made movies before 2010 or something. They will also have free screenings for the first asian movie of all time. Not a lot of faith i see.

oh and I actually think this could be the best mcu film in quite some time. At least for me, as it's something new.

lefty20

08-19-2021, 07:19 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_me3xsvDgk&ab_channel=MarvelEntertainment

Looks great. Music is pretty awesome as well.

cd021

08-22-2021, 12:59 AM

Not sure what to think of the Eternals yet. Looks fine, but not exactly interested in learning more about any of the characters.

Shang Chi looks pretty great though.

lefty

08-22-2021, 11:04 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_me3xsvDgk&ab_channel=MarvelEntertainment

Looks great. Music is pretty awesome as well.

Visually stunning tbh

lefty

08-22-2021, 07:33 PM

:lol someone leaked the Spiderman trailer on Tiktok

spurraider21

08-23-2021, 01:22 PM

:lol someone leaked the Spiderman trailer on Tiktok
imagine not linking it

spurraider21

08-23-2021, 02:37 PM

this it?

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LaMarcus Bryant

08-23-2021, 03:07 PM

this it?

1429762495913156619

Yeah i haven't bothered to watch that shit. I'll just wait for something viewable.

Texas_Ranger

08-23-2021, 03:11 PM

lefty

08-23-2021, 07:05 PM

imagine not linking it
tbf I thought you would rather wait for the official non shitty version

lefty20

08-23-2021, 09:14 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-2cxAiPJk&ab_channel=SonyPicturesEntertainment

cd021

08-23-2021, 09:23 PM

Looks sort of like Dr. Strange 1.5. Trippy visuals. Their definitely using elements of One More Day. Looks pretty good overall.

cd021

08-23-2021, 09:38 PM

what a retarded thing for Peter to ask Strange to erase people's memories. There will still be videos of it. The easy solution would be, that there is a skrull that turns into Peter and then just have Spidey next to him. Its also retarded that Strange would go on with such a dangerous spell, when Wong tells him no to do it. But gotta have that mcu humor in a serious situation. These characters feel different from movie to movie or show. Its like when a new writer gets a hold of a character they do with him whatever they want, with zero fucks about the past. Thank god the two other spider-men will be in the film. It will finally be a Spider-man movie with Spider-man in it and not an Iron boy.

-I think the ask is sort of weird ask. Also, why would Dr. Strange be willing to wipe out millions of people's memories just because an acquaintance asked?
-I haven't read One More Day but in the comics Parker asked Dr. Strange for help to save Aunt May. Kinda makes it seem trivial by comparison.
-Does everyone know about Skulls?
-Would be sort of weird if a teenager said "I'm not Spiderman, this shape shifting alien has beef with me and set me up."

Still looks pretty cool but there does seem to be some issues with the basic premise.

Texas_Ranger

08-23-2021, 09:46 PM

Well Nick Fury knows about the Skrulls and he was very into Peters life in far from home, so with his help all of this could be solved much easier. I guess they have to make it interesting for the movie. Still, i dont like Strange, the most mature character so far, casting a dangerous spell just cause Pete asked him. It does look good tho and i am sure all the special effects will be great. I am afraid the story will be pretty meh. Also, they have to fit in so many characters, it will probably be just cameos.

lefty

08-23-2021, 11:03 PM

Electro, Sandman, Lizard Goblin and Octavius

I feel like I missed other villains

lefty

08-24-2021, 02:05 AM

lmao
https://twitter.com/itzchrisayyy/status/1430038114026745856?s=21

spurraider21

08-24-2021, 08:15 AM

Electro, Sandman, Lizard Goblin and Octavius

I feel like I missed other villains
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cd021

08-24-2021, 01:34 PM

Electro, Sandman, Lizard Goblin and Octavius

I feel like I missed other villains
Apparently Rhino (From AS2) is the 6th villain.

lefty

08-24-2021, 01:46 PM

Apparently Rhino (From AS2) is the 6th villain.
ah ok

Texas_Ranger

08-24-2021, 02:08 PM

didnt michael keaton say he's returning. So with everyone else and him they can have the sinister 6.

cd021

08-24-2021, 09:40 PM

Texas_Ranger

08-25-2021, 03:48 AM

Parker blaming Skrulls doesn't make sense if most people in-universe don't know that they exist. Unless i'm missing your point.

I'd bet most of the footage from trailer is from the first 30 minutes of the movie (Marvel is known to due that). Probably another 2 hours of movie left, so it will likely be more than just cameos. Matt Murdock is is even rumored to have about 10 minutes of screen time alone. The issue I see is that the plot the exposition could feel rushed like Thor Ragnarok.

what blaming? My point is one of the skrulls could turn into Peter, like they were Nick Furry in far from home and then have Spider-Man with Peter, that is a skrull, show up in the same place, showing everyone that Peter cant be Spider-Man.

cd021

08-25-2021, 06:22 AM

what blaming? My point is one of the skrulls could turn into Peter, like they were Nick Furry in far from home and then have Spider-Man with Peter, that is a skrull, show up in the same place, showing everyone that Peter cant be Spider-Man.

My mistake. Though the problem is that the Skrulls in FFH are likely both in outer space with Nick Fury. That means that there aren't any known Skrulls on earth. That part of the story checks out. The problem is Dr. Strange doing such a drastic spell to help someone he's known for a couple of hours. There has to be more to that, otherwise that's just bad writing.

LaMarcus Bryant

08-25-2021, 07:59 AM

My mistake. Though the problem is that the Skrulls in FFH are likely both in outer space with Nick Fury. That means that there aren't any known Skrulls on earth. That part of the story checks out. The problem is Dr. Strange doing such a drastic spell to help someone he's known for a couple of hours. There has to be more to that, otherwise that's just bad writing.

The premise of Strange willy-nilly fucking with the continuum for a lil rapscallion he only knows for being a stowaway on a rocket ship to fight Thanos does seem like very stupid writing. But the special effects and action look poised to be top notch. Hope it's the trailer being misleading on the writing.

LaMarcus Bryant

08-25-2021, 08:08 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt-2cxAiPJk&ab_channel=SonyPicturesEntertainment

:lol the strange/parker scenes remind me of Bill and Ted stumbling into the MCU and fucking with the sacred timeline :lol

cd021

08-25-2021, 12:41 PM

The premise of Strange willy-nilly fucking with the continuum for a lil rapscallion he only knows for being a stowaway on a rocket ship to fight Thanos does seem like very stupid writing. But the special effects and action look poised to be top notch. Hope it's the trailer being misleading on the writing.

Yeah its a concern. Marvel may be fucking with people like they did with the FFH trailer. Maybe something happens to Aunt May, as a result of people knowing Parkers secret, and he pleads with Strange to reverse time to save her, similar to the comics.

Does have some pretty trippy visuals, looks forward to that for sure.

cd021

08-25-2021, 12:42 PM

So who actually fucks up the timeline? Wanda? Sylvie? Strange?

LaMarcus Bryant

08-25-2021, 12:52 PM

So who actually fucks up the timeline? Wanda? Sylvie? Strange?

It'll be a multi-pronged issue all at once, a big confluence imo, probably orchestrated by an evil Kang to free himself

Monostradamus

08-25-2021, 12:56 PM

lefty

08-25-2021, 03:15 PM

In the trailer, why does everyone in NYC now hate Spiderman? During FFH everyone in New York loved him, and all the destruction happened out in Europe. They have no reason to be out picketing against Spiderman.

That trailer was incredibly underwhelming tbh

Not everyone in NY hates him there must be a divide

A lot of NYers must have been influenced by Alex Jones Jameson

spurraider21

08-25-2021, 03:25 PM

spurraider21

08-25-2021, 03:26 PM

Xevious

08-25-2021, 03:53 PM

So who actually fucks up the timeline? Wanda? Sylvie? Strange?
Yes.

Monostradamus

08-25-2021, 07:24 PM

they have him murdering mysterio, a hero figure
He was a guy who went viral for fighting monsters in Europe for a week, he wasn’t some well established beloved figure worldwide.

Neo.

08-25-2021, 07:24 PM

i think the actually story will have a tad more detail than the teaser trailer

tbh it seems like he faked the spell, and was teaching peter a lesson, based on what seemed to be a conversation moments later at 2:18 where he told him the problem was him trying to live two lives. probably lecturing him to just accept who he is and that people are going to know and find out.

the comments about messing with space and time probably had to do with the events of endgame, as hes now realized the development of the multiverse and its effects

Monostradamus

08-25-2021, 11:35 PM

https://theweek.com/feature/1004074/spider-man-no-way-home-is-turning-into-marvels-frankensteins-monster

Spider-Man: No Way Home is turning into Marvel's Frankenstein's monster

spurraider21

08-26-2021, 11:58 AM

:lmao

https://scontent.fric1-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/240678332_2072578976224745_5705794148839884762_n.j pg?_nc_cat=1&ccb=1-5&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=mcGdT358VtsAX97Jiel&_nc_ht=scontent.fric1-2.fna&oh=4adc535be53126d36b153abf88a81be8&oe=614D700B

Blake

08-26-2021, 12:42 PM

:lol

cd021

08-26-2021, 08:59 PM

He was a guy who went viral for fighting monsters in Europe for a week, he wasn’t some well established beloved figure worldwide.

That is kinda a good point. Mysterio literally came on the scene and was around for a couple days but now people taking his side in death over an established hero like Spiderman.

tbh it seems like he faked the spell, and was teaching peter a lesson, based on what seemed to be a conversation moments later at 2:18 where he told him the problem was him trying to live two lives. probably lecturing him to just accept who he is and that people are going to know and find out.

That makes more sense, maybe they even filmed that scene specifically for the trailer as an audience fakeout. That or the actual motivation is different like something happens to Aunt May as a result of an angry mob or something, instead of Parker's life simply being turned upside down.

cd021

08-26-2021, 09:04 PM

Damn,

There's been a least four scoops/ rumors about Wanda fighting a member of the Fox Universe in Dr. Strange 2 (some of whom are pretty reliable). A writer from Variety even hinted that he's heard the same thing and that its going to be Professor X (Patrick Stewart).

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Actually sounds like its legit at this point :wow

Spurtacular

08-27-2021, 12:55 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k27cWPYlNZM&ab_channel=RayWorkProductions

Spurtacular

08-27-2021, 09:39 PM

“If I killed myself, I’d miss the next Batman movie.”

SMH. The Blue Santa Faggs psychos of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBRAY3N3FXw&ab_channel=Took2Much

cd021

08-31-2021, 04:38 PM

Sounds like Shuri is the new Black Panther

https://bleedingcool.com/movies/letitia-wright-signed-marvel-studios-contract-for-many-movies-spoilers-black-panther-wakandaforever/

Wright signed up for "many" movies.

LaMarcus Bryant

08-31-2021, 06:17 PM

lefty20

08-31-2021, 06:36 PM

Weak

She's anti-vax... so there's still a chance that we could get MBJ as the BP with a redemption arc and all.

Trill Clinton

08-31-2021, 07:53 PM

cd021

09-01-2021, 12:14 AM

Weak

She's anti-vax... so there's still a chance that we could get MBJ as the BP with a redemption arc and all.

Welp I'm done with the franchise

Yeah, in theory in fine with Shuri being BP because that's what happened in the comics though I'm not crazy about the actress and I think there are better options.

Rehabbing Killmonger was my preferred option.

Still interested in BP 2 though, sounds like the villain is going to be the submariner

LaMarcus Bryant

09-01-2021, 08:29 AM

Yeah, in theory in fine with Shuri being BP because that's what happened in the comics though I'm not crazy about the actress and I think there are better options.

Rehabbing Killmonger was my preferred option.

Still interested in BP 2 though, sounds like the villain is going to be the submariner

MBJ is too good an actor, too hot right now, and fits the look so well it is retarded not to use him. Retcon that shit, it's a comic movie for fuck's sake. They're over thinking this.

Texas_Ranger

09-01-2021, 10:18 AM

She's anti-vax... so there's still a chance that we could get MBJ as the BP with a redemption arc and all.

she retweeted one thing some people dont agree with and its time to fuck her up. I love how all this bullshit about respecting women and people of color works, but as soon as you say somehing thats not a popular opinion everyone turns into gestapo.... Cant say i am surprised by pedowood and the twitter faggots.

perhaps she should be acting like the retard from shang chi and claim how she was the first black woman in an action film, then people would perhaps forget about her crime of retweeting.

cd021

09-01-2021, 10:36 AM

MBJ is too good an actor, too hot right now, and fits the look so well it is retarded not to use him. Retcon that shit, it's a comic movie for fuck's sake. They're over thinking this.

Its an easy retcon tbh. T'Challa could have taken him back to Shuri and had her save his life. It fits with T'Challa's world view, like when he told Zemo "The living are not done with you yet".

Also, there's the problem that there's no more heart shaped herbs. So how does Shuri become the Black Panther? The suit is bullet proof and unleashes kinetic energy but the power of the BP comes from the herb.

cd021

09-01-2021, 10:39 AM

she retweeted one thing some people dont agree with and its time to fuck her up. I love how all this bullshit about respecting women and people of color works, but as soon as you say somehing thats not a popular opinion everyone turns into gestapo.... Cant say i am surprised by pedowood and the twitter faggots.

perhaps she should be acting like the retard from shang chi and claim how she was the first black woman in an action film, then people would perhaps forget about her crime of retweeting.

People didn't like that she retweeted anti vax shit, and expressed that. Its not that big of a deal tbh. Its not like she got cancelled. It sounds like she's in line to be in like half a dozen billion dollar MCU movies over the next decade tbh.

ChumpDumper

09-01-2021, 10:42 AM

lefty

09-01-2021, 10:43 AM

Tobey and Garfield on set :

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-DFjBOXEAY2ImG?format=jpg&name=largehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-DFjBOXMAAuIAf?format=jpg&name=small

Texas_Ranger

09-01-2021, 10:58 AM

:lol triggered

So much irony and misinformation in one post....

not triggered, its just stupid to get rid of her cause of that.

ChumpDumper

09-01-2021, 11:10 AM

not triggered, its just stupid to get rid of her cause of that.No one is getting rid of her. You're getting triggered over nothing.

LaMarcus Bryant

09-01-2021, 11:34 AM

i can't believe we have to see toby and a guy named garfield taking up screen time from our precious lil holland in the next spidey movie :lol

Texas_Ranger

09-01-2021, 11:37 AM

i can't believe we have to see toby and a guy named garfield taking up screen time from our precious lil holland in the next spidey movie :lol

no one watches mcu spider-man films cause of tom holland. Its pretty sad that he cant get his own movie.

Xevious

09-01-2021, 12:33 PM

i can't believe we have to see toby and a guy named garfield taking up screen time from our precious lil holland in the next spidey movie :lol
I'm looking forward to it. They're fast tracking the sinister six by using characters/actors we're already familiar with. I think a project like this had to be done now, because there's no guarantee that the deal with Sony will hold up. Marvel is essentially canonizing any prior Sony/Fox Marvel movie by making it a part of the multiverse. But with the inclusion of Professor X in the upcoming Strange movie, I'm afraid they're going to take it too far.

lefty

09-01-2021, 12:45 PM

i can't believe we have to see toby and a guy named garfield taking up screen time from our precious lil holland in the next spidey movie :lol
I'm digging this multiverse concept in a Spidey movie, escpacially after watching Into the Spiderverse
Plus people have always been debating on who the best Spiderman is so it's pretty cool to see then in the same movie (I'm sure there will be an inside joke in this movie, like "everybody knows I'm the best Spiderman)

Holland isn't bad tbh, but I much prefer Tobey and Gsrfield

And Holland's movies don't feel like a Spiderman movie tbh .......Iron Man this, Tony Stark that.
Fuck that shit

Texas_Ranger

09-01-2021, 01:36 PM

I think both Spider-man and Black Panther were by far better in Civil war than in any of their movies.

lefty

09-01-2021, 01:57 PM

I think both Spider-man and Black Panther were by far better in Civil war than in any of their movies.
And Civil War had the best Black Panther costume

The new suit especially the cowl are ugly AF

LaMarcus Bryant

09-01-2021, 02:15 PM

I think both Spider-man and Black Panther were by far better in Civil war than in any of their movies.

The last appearance of Bucky before he got nerfed into the ground :cry:cry:cry:cry

Texas_Ranger

09-01-2021, 02:38 PM

The last appearance of Bucky before he got nerfed into the ground :cry:cry:cry:cry

truth. I was about to say it was also the best portrayal of Bucky, but he was pretty damn good in winter soldier.... and then he became just a guy with a gun and pathetic sack of shit in the series.

lefty

09-01-2021, 03:11 PM

The last appearance of Bucky before he got nerfed into the ground :cry:cry:cry:cry

Brainwashed assassin Bucky was the the best Bucky , so badass
Especially with his theme playing in the background

One of my favourite moments of The Falcon and the Winter Soldier was his flashback when he killed Michael Jordan’s opponents in that hotel

lefty20

09-01-2021, 03:48 PM

she retweeted one thing some people dont agree with and its time to fuck her up. I love how all this bullshit about respecting women and people of color works, but as soon as you say somehing thats not a popular opinion everyone turns into gestapo.... Cant say i am surprised by pedowood and the twitter faggots.

perhaps she should be acting like the retard from shang chi and claim how she was the first black woman in an action film, then people would perhaps forget about her crime of retweeting.

Damn bro. This was a tongue in cheek comment, tbh.

Fwiw, I don't want her cancelled at all. I want her in the movie as the Queen of Wakanda. I think we can have a interesting dynamic with Shuri as the Queen/Inventor working hand in hand with MBJ's BP. She can help him fix that broken ass moral compass he's got and continue to change/help the world in a way that T'Challa wanted to.

Spurtacular

09-01-2021, 04:35 PM

“If I killed myself, I’d miss the next Batman movie.”

SMH. The Blue Santa Faggs psychos of the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBRAY3N3FXw&ab_channel=Took2Much

tlongII

09-02-2021, 09:53 PM

I’d rather see Shang-Chi tbh.

LaMarcus Bryant

09-03-2021, 07:24 AM

leemajors

09-03-2021, 10:27 AM

I want to see Shang Chi, may go Monday. Eternals I can wait for a long time, tho they have said the Hulk's snap caused the emergence and that is interesting

lefty20

09-03-2021, 03:48 PM

Saw Shang-Chi last night, pretty good imo. Just not sure why Awkwafina was given as big a role as she did.

The first post credits scene is super interesting. I have no idea where they're gonna go with that.

Those who've seen what if...? There are some obvious parallels with the most recent episode (#4) and this movie. I wonder if aligning the release date to fall on same week was an intentional move by Fiege.

cd021

09-03-2021, 06:54 PM

So there's a new Marvel movie out and I couldn't really give a rat's ass about Shang Chi or the Angelina Jolie / Danesh movie either.

Anyone else feel similar? Has a shark been jumped?
Not hype to go see these in the theater whatsoever :lol

Been enjoying What If tho, have some episodes to catch up this weekend.

I actually want to see Shang Chi, meh on Eternals but hype about Spider-Man 3 and Dr. Strange. Even interested in Hawkeye based on all of the leaks. I think the 2022 slate is a lot better than this years slate, not many people know a lot about Shang Chi or the Eternals and not really a fan of Black Widow.

Trainwreck2100

09-03-2021, 08:28 PM

So there's a new Marvel movie out and I couldn't really give a rat's ass about Shang Chi or the Angelina Jolie / Danesh movie either.

Anyone else feel similar? Has a shark been jumped?
Not hype to go see these in the theater whatsoever :lol

Been enjoying What If tho, have some episodes to catch up this weekend.

For me it's not so much that the shark has been jumped but they lost two of the best guys they had, it's hard to care about nobody heroes, we've never heard of. That's one of the reasons I skipped bw, we already know the bitch is dead who gives a fuck about her.

Xevious

09-04-2021, 02:09 PM

For me it's not so much that the shark has been jumped but they lost two of the best guys they had, it's hard to care about nobody heroes, we've never heard of. That's one of the reasons I skipped bw, we already know the bitch is dead who gives a fuck about her.
I've already mention this, but that was the biggest problem with that movie. There were no stakes whatsoever. A BW solo movie really wasn't necessary, but should have happened years ago if they really wanted to do one.

Xevious

09-04-2021, 08:34 PM

lefty20

09-04-2021, 08:54 PM

Why is Bruce Banner back to being just Bruce?

Another 6 months in the gamma lab to completely separate the Hulk from Bruce. Then the Hulk goes wild because it's without Bruce's conscious and it'll have to be stopped by She-Hulk and The Abomination. Or something else, tbh.

cd021

09-04-2021, 11:43 PM

I've already mention this, but that was the biggest problem with that movie. There were no stakes whatsoever. A BW solo movie really wasn't necessary, but should have happened years ago if they really wanted to do one.

They really missed an opportunity not to have it set during the snap. Could've had the villain try to use the BWs to take over with half of the Avengers being gone, Thor being in Norway, and Stark retired.

Saw Shang-Chi last night, pretty good imo. Just not sure why Awkwafina was given as big a role as she did.

The first post credits scene is super interesting. I have no idea where they're gonna go with that.

Those who've seen what if...? There are some obvious parallels with the most recent episode (#4) and this movie. I wonder if aligning the release date to fall on same week was an intentional move by Fiege.

Maybe nothing more than them setting up She-Hulk and the Marvels and having Shang-Chi meet two of the Avengers to eventually set up New Avengers.

Another 6 months in the gamma lab to completely separate the Hulk from Bruce. Then the Hulk goes wild because it's without Bruce's conscious and it'll have to be stopped by She-Hulk and The Abomination. Or something else, tbh.

Sure, though probably the real reason is because its a lot cheaper than CGI'ing every second that the Hulk appears. He's showing up in She-Hulk and Moon Knight so I figured that they'd have him go back to Banner.

My in-universe theory is that the end-credits takes place after She-Hulk, and the blood transfusion, and he loses enough of the gamma to revert back into Banner.

cd021

09-04-2021, 11:53 PM

Really liked Shang Chi tbh. Action scenes where great, acting was solid, especially Leung and Lui. Maybe too much of Awkwafina though she got better as the movie went along. Overall a 4.5/5.

LaMarcus Bryant

09-07-2021, 07:24 AM

I've already mention this, but that was the biggest problem with that movie. There were no stakes whatsoever. A BW solo movie really wasn't necessary, but should have happened years ago if they really wanted to do one.

isnt the theory was that it was planned for pre-infinity war but they were determined to shoehorn Cap Marvel in so it got replaced

elbamba1

09-07-2021, 09:16 AM

I thought Shang Chi was way better than I expected it to be. The action was good and the story line was interesting. I would put it in the middle of the pack of Marvel movies - better than the IM3, Thor 2, CM, and Hulk.

Xevious

09-07-2021, 12:55 PM

I enjoyed Shang Chi. The action/visuals were really fun. The movie stood well on its own without a lot of prior knowledge needed, but also added enough to move the MCU forward.

Ed Helicopter Jones

09-07-2021, 06:38 PM

cd021

09-08-2021, 08:53 PM

The What If...? zombie episode was pretty great tbh. The series is starting to find its footing.

lefty20

09-08-2021, 09:06 PM

The What If...? zombie episode was pretty great tbh. The series is starting to find its footing.

Endings are getting darker and darker. I really hope there's some sort of continuation from where these episodes are ending. At least in season 2 if not in the latter part this season.

cd021

09-09-2021, 12:12 PM

Endings are getting darker and darker. I really hope there's some sort of continuation from where these episodes are ending. At least in season 2 if not in the latter part this season.

-Definitely enjoying the darker tone, and unpredictability of the recent episodes.

-I think there will be. Bucky, for example, was thrown into the distance but with the shield, and his arm, he likely survived the fall. Maybe theirs a sequel episode where they show him as captain America. There's also been reports that Captain Carter is going to return in every season of the show.

LaMarcus Bryant

09-09-2021, 12:53 PM

I liked Shang Chi. I'd rank it somewhere in the 30th to 40th percentile of Marvel movies. My son put it in the bottom 10%. We both agreed that BW would have to be at, or almost at, the bottom of the Marvel list...that one should have just been a Disney+ feature film.

:lol the funny thing about BW is I've only seen it available at home for like 20.99 dollars to watch lmfao like yeah right
I'll continue to wait.

Trainwreck2100

09-09-2021, 11:13 PM

:lol the funny thing about BW is I've only seen it available at home for like 20.99 dollars to watch lmfao like yeah right
I'll continue to wait.

i could see it for free and havent put the time in

LaMarcus Bryant

09-13-2021, 07:38 AM

i could see it for free and havent put the time in

Why you gotta hate on our cute big booty scarlett like that

lefty

09-13-2021, 08:01 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VYb3B1ETlk

lefty20

09-14-2021, 03:54 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VYb3B1ETlk

Looks like a fun show. We're gonna get an episode dedicated just to that Musical, right?

Texas_Ranger

09-16-2021, 10:24 AM

https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1438432328401907713

LaMarcus Bryant

09-16-2021, 10:50 AM

Endings are getting darker and darker. I really hope there's some sort of continuation from where these episodes are ending. At least in season 2 if not in the latter part this season.

So Zombie Thanos was the ending of that one...but like what's the point lol. Cool episode but if Zombie Thanos had a gauntlet it pretty much rendered everything in that episode pointless to begin with

LaMarcus Bryant

09-16-2021, 10:50 AM

Killmonger was a LDN in last night's episode. Love his cockiness. Sly ass cunning mf

cd021

09-16-2021, 11:51 AM

So Zombie Thanos was the ending of that one...but like what's the point lol. Cool episode but if Zombie Thanos had a gauntlet it pretty much rendered everything in that episode pointless to begin with

Thanos doesn't have the mind stone yet so not exactly. Also, Thor and Captain Marvel aren't zombies and well as Spiderman and the Guardians of the Galaxy. They might end up doing a sequel episode.

cd021

09-16-2021, 11:54 AM

Killmonger was a LDN in last night's episode. Love his cockiness. Sly ass cunning mf

"The difference between me and you is that you don't see the difference between me and you"

He was pretty bad ass tbh.

LaMarcus Bryant

09-16-2021, 02:58 PM

"The difference between me and you is that you don't see the difference between me and you"

He was pretty bad ass tbh.

Yeah that line was sick af

lefty20

09-16-2021, 04:02 PM

Yeah, I'm definitely gonna need a follow up to these endings. The new trailer does imply that there will be something of that sort in the upcoming episodes with Thor talking about Zombies.

lefty20

09-16-2021, 04:54 PM

https://twitter.com/CultureCrave/status/1438432328401907713

Says the guy who's just remade a movie that is based on a book. So a 3rd copy of an IP....

If he really believes in what he's saying then he should've told the studio to fuck off and committed himself to making only Indie movies, tbh.

Texas_Ranger

09-17-2021, 12:25 AM

Says the guy who's just remade a movie that is based on a book. So a 3rd copy of an IP....

If he really believes in what he's saying then he should've told the studio to fuck off and committed himself to making only Indie movies, tbh.

the last Dune movie was made 40 years ago and it wasnt really that good, so its not like he's doing 3 movies per year. He was also asked the question about this, so its not like he said it out of nothing.

He also only made good movies so far, so i am pretty sure Dune will also be good. Cant say that about Marvel movies, which are fun, but there is just like 3 or 4 good movies there and even all of those are still worse than anything Villeneuve ever directed.

lefty20

09-17-2021, 12:49 AM

the last Dune movie was made 40 years ago and it wasnt really that good, so its not like he's doing 3 movies per year. He was also asked the question about this, so its not like he said it out of nothing.

He also only made good movies so far, so i am pretty sure Dune will also be good. Cant say that about Marvel movies, which are fun, but there is just like 3 or 4 good movies there and even all of those are still worse than anything Villeneuve ever directed.

He was just asked a question about big budget films. He specifically just chose to bring Marvel into this conversation himself.

You really don't see a problem with a guy promoting his big budget project, that's based on existing IP, saying what he did?

Additionally, are Marvel directors the only one out there employing that 3 act, hero's journey template? Doesn't Dune it self follow this template in the first book?

Comes across like like a salty hypocrite, tbh.

Texas_Ranger

09-17-2021, 01:44 AM

lefty20

09-17-2021, 02:12 AM

yea, he probably didnt have to say anything, but what he did say is not wrong.

idk anything about the dune books, all i know is how everyone thinks that it cant be done good in a movie, so all i hope for is it to not be shit.

I'm not saying that he is necessarily wrong.

A person can be right and still be a salty hypocrite.

Fwiw, I'm looking quite forward to seeing Dune. Previews look amazing and I loved the book itself. Doesn't hurt that Dune also serves as big inspiration to my all time favorite series.

Monostradamus

09-17-2021, 09:34 AM

He was just asked a question about big budget films. He specifically just chose to bring Marvel into this conversation himself.

You really don't see a problem with a guy promoting his big budget project, that's based on existing IP, saying what he did?

Additionally, are Marvel directors the only one out there employing that 3 act, hero's journey template? Doesn't Dune it self follow this template in the first book?

Comes across like like a salty hypocrite, tbh.
He talked about the lazy “cut and paste” nature of Marvel movies, and his criticisms are 100% valid. He’s not saying you shouldn’t play in the IP waters, just that there’s a more interesting way of doing it than the Marvel formula.

You’re in serious denial if you can’t see the very obvious Marvelness in every Marvel movie. They’re literally the exact same packs of Doritos with different flavoring sprinkled on every time. Which is fine, Doritos are delicious, but if someone said “there’s different ways to make chips besides Doritos” you wouldn’t freak out about it.

lefty20

09-17-2021, 04:03 PM

He talked about the lazy “cut and paste” nature of Marvel movies, and his criticisms are 100% valid. He’s not saying you shouldn’t play in the IP waters, just that there’s a more interesting way of doing it than the Marvel formula.

You’re in serious denial if you can’t see the very obvious Marvelness in every Marvel movie. They’re literally the exact same packs of Doritos with different flavoring sprinkled on every time. Which is fine, Doritos are delicious, but if someone said “there’s different ways to make chips besides Doritos” you wouldn’t freak out about it.

Sounds like you haven't seen all the Marvel movies because they're definitely not all "literally the same with different flavoring sprinkled". The criticism is definitely valid for some of them but not all, not even close.

A big part which you and Denis seem to be ignoring is that Marvel Directors don't have full control of the IP, because they're adding to a Cinematic Universe and have to play within a sandbox. That's just a part of the deal when you sign on.

I wouldn't be surprised if Denis hasn't seen them all either.

But hey, I'm sure Denis would've done much better than what is currently the only successful Cinematic Universe ever built. Marvel definitely fucked up when they put Fiege in charge instead of Denis.

Monostradamus

09-17-2021, 06:18 PM

Sounds like you haven't seen all the Marvel movies because they're definitely not all "literally the same with different flavoring sprinkled". The criticism is definitely valid for some of them but not all, not even close.

A big part which you and Denis seem to be ignoring is that Marvel Directors don't have full control of the IP, because they're adding to a Cinematic Universe and have to play within a sandbox. That's just a part of the deal when you sign on.

I wouldn't be surprised if Denis hasn't seen them all either.

But hey, I'm sure Denis would've done much better than what is currently the only successful Cinematic Universe ever built. Marvel definitely fucked up when they put Fiege in charge instead of Denis.
Marvel movies absolutely all use the same recipe now. The only ones that are unique in any way are early ones (Iron Man 1, Winter Soldier) before they perfected the recipe. If you can’t see it, you’re in denial, plain and simple.

I never said they weren’t entertaining, because they mostly are. But they’re all fairly milquetoast and lacking in artistic merit. Like Scorsese said, they’re an amusement park ride. Fun, but forgettable, and running on the exact same track.

lefty20

09-17-2021, 06:48 PM

Marvel movies absolutely all use the same recipe now. The only ones that are unique in any way are early ones (Iron Man 1, Winter Soldier) before they perfected the recipe. If you can’t see it, you’re in denial, plain and simple.

I never said they weren’t entertaining, because they mostly are. But they’re all fairly milquetoast and lacking in artistic merit. Like Scorsese said, they’re an amusement park ride. Fun, but forgettable, and running on the exact same track.

Sure. If we ignore the other ones like Ragnarok, GotG, Infinity War, BP then there is nothing unique about any of them, at all.

Again I repeat.... 90% of the movies follow the same exact 3 act template. This is even more apparent when they have a common theme "hero's journey". That's pretty much the first thing they teach in film school.

Lastly, they're comic book movies, produced by Disney. What are you expecting to get from it, some life changing poignant message?

Edit:

Scoresese himself admitted that he hasn't seen a marvel movie in years. I may be wrong here, but I'm not sure if it's possible to critique something fairly if you haven't even experienced any part of it.

lefty20

09-17-2021, 07:04 PM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k27cWPYlNZM&ab_channel=RayWorkProductions

I think this is what Scorsese and Denis are really mad about. That studios & audiences are less willing to give other forms of movies the same treatment, for the lack of a better word.

Monostradamus

09-17-2021, 07:18 PM

Sure. If we ignore the other ones like Ragnarok, GotG, Infinity War, BP then there is nothing unique about any of them, at all.

Again I repeat.... 90% of the movies follow the same exact 3 act template. This is even more apparent when they have a common theme "hero's journey". That's pretty much the first thing they teach in film school.

Lastly, they're comic book movies, produced by Disney. What are you expecting to get from it, some life changing poignant message?

Edit:

Scoresese himself admitted that he hasn't seen a marvel movie in years. I may be wrong here, but I'm not sure if it's possible to critique something fairly if you haven't even experienced any part of it.

I think this is what Scorsese and Denis are really mad about. That studios & audiences are less willing to give other forms of movies the same treatment, for the lack of a better word.
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Neo.

09-18-2021, 01:09 AM

:cry :cry :cry

cd021

09-23-2021, 12:19 AM

Maybe not the best episode but pretty entertaining What If...? Episode. Watching Thor and Captain Marvel fight was pretty cool.

lefty20

09-23-2021, 04:37 PM

Fun episode. But that ending... so many questions.

We have to be crossing over next week, right?

lefty20

09-30-2021, 04:46 AM

That was a crazy episode. It kinda makes the whole Vision plotline in Infinity War seem stupider and it already was.

Looking forward to seeing the alternate Avengers next week.

cd021

10-01-2021, 12:22 AM

That was a crazy episode. It kinda makes the whole Vision plotline in Infinity War seem stupider and it already was.

Looking forward to seeing the alternate Avengers next week.

So it seems like Vision could've smoked Thanos had he not been injured in Germany.

Pretty great episode overall, like that they tied in references into Winter Soldier, Civil War, Black Widow, and Infinity Wars. The Ultron vs the Watcher scene was cool tbh.

What If...? also makes me really wish that the MCU had handled Black Widow and Hawkeye better, they were bad-asses in this episode. Also really wish that the MCU hadn't killed off Ultron after just one movie. Goddamn that was dumb.

cd021

10-01-2021, 12:32 AM

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There's been rumors that Eternals will show Atlantis. Sounds like the Submariner will actually be in BP2.

Texas_Ranger

10-01-2021, 04:50 AM

Venom2 was pretty meh, but to me the best thing that came out of phase 4.

NASpurs

10-01-2021, 04:37 PM

I disliked Venom 1 but really liked this one a lot, I liked it more than Shang Chi and Black Widow, that's for sure.

Trainwreck2100

10-01-2021, 08:55 PM

Venom2 was pretty meh, but to me the best thing that came out of phase 4.

has feige acknowledged venom?

Texas_Ranger

10-02-2021, 07:26 AM

has feige acknowledged venom?

after the post credit scene i guess he has.

Trainwreck2100

10-02-2021, 08:58 AM

after the post credit scene i guess he has.

I'm aware of the ACS but that don't mean shit that's Sony, vulture is in morbius and they haven't acknowledged that.

LaMarcus Bryant

10-04-2021, 07:32 PM

So it seems like Vision could've smoked Thanos had he not been injured in Germany.

Pretty great episode overall, like that they tied in references into Winter Soldier, Civil War, Black Widow, and Infinity Wars. The Ultron vs the Watcher scene was cool tbh.

What If...? also makes me really wish that the MCU had handled Black Widow and Hawkeye better, they were bad-asses in this episode. Also really wish that the MCU hadn't killed off Ultron after just one movie. Goddamn that was dumb.

Yeah episode was dope. So they're gonna bring back evil Strange, British Cap, frat Thor and Kill monger to fight Ultron or what?

Also LOLOLOL at mind stone one shotting Thanos

LaMarcus Bryant

10-04-2021, 07:34 PM

Also is the MCU implying that The Watcher is an iteration of Kang?

Got those Vibes last episode in the fight with Ultron

cd021

10-05-2021, 03:05 PM

Yeah episode was dope. So they're gonna bring back evil Strange, British Cap, frat Thor and Kill monger to fight Ultron or what?

Also LOLOLOL at mind stone one shotting Thanos

Think it might also include Star-lord-T'Challa and Cap-Bucky too. Might be wrong though.

Yeah that was surprising. Weirdly kind of makes Zemo's plan to destroy the avengers all the more successful. Had the Black Order not been able to run up on Wanda and Vision, Vision wouldn't have gotten hurt and the full avengers including Vision probably would've been able to kill Thanos.

spurraider21

10-05-2021, 07:54 PM

so is the what if stuff worth watching?

leemajors

10-05-2021, 09:47 PM

so is the what if stuff worth watching?

I have enjoyed them, they are fun to watch. Some drag a bit, but I like how it has come together so far.

ChumpDumper

10-05-2021, 10:54 PM

so is the what if stuff worth watching?I think so, but I'm biased from liking the comic back in the day. I thought it was just going to be all stand alone episodes but they've made their own little saga that's shaping up pretty nicely. Episodes are short so you can judge pretty quickly. I'm impressed they got so many of the original actors to voice the characters.

lefty20

10-06-2021, 03:47 AM

Great finale. Can't wait for season 2. I need to know what Tony & Gamora were doing on Nidavellir and how they got there, it looked interesting.

LaMarcus Bryant

10-06-2021, 09:47 AM

I think so, but I'm biased from liking the comic back in the day. I thought it was just going to be all stand alone episodes but they've made their own little saga that's shaping up pretty nicely. Episodes are short so you can judge pretty quickly. I'm impressed they got so many of the original actors to voice the characters.

+1

CD did you get any vibes in last week's episode Watcher fighting Infinity Ultron kinda gave off vibes he was an iteration of Kang? I know that's not canon. Something about their dialogue during their sparring...
Haven't watched finale yet tho

ChumpDumper

10-06-2021, 09:59 AM

+1

CD did you get any vibes in last week's episode Watcher fighting Infinity Ultron kinda gave off vibes he was an iteration of Kang? I know that's not canon. Something about their dialogue during their sparring...
Haven't watched finale yet thoI don't know about his being a Kang, but it would make sense if he were created by/given his job by Kang. Will probably watch the finale in a day or two.

Trainwreck2100

10-06-2021, 06:22 PM

Great finale. Can't wait for season 2. I need to know what Tony & Gamora were doing on Nidavellir and how they got there, it looked interesting.

Kinda self explanatory, in that universe Tony teams up with gamora and makes a thanos buster armor

+1

CD did you get any vibes in last week's episode Watcher fighting Infinity Ultron kinda gave off vibes he was an iteration of Kang? I know that's not canon. Something about their dialogue during their sparring...
Haven't watched finale yet tho

The watcher isn't a Kang, the watcher watches, and Kang's motives are always to win and he meddles with the universe all the time.

As for the show decent finale but real formulaic wiht some of the avengers parrallel shots

lefty20

10-06-2021, 07:41 PM

Kinda self explanatory, in that universe Tony teams up with gamora and makes a thanos buster armor

Thanos is already dead and they're melting his gauntlet and Tony is ranting about putting a suit of armor around the Universe. I wanna see how he goes about doing that with access to Uru metal.

cd021

10-06-2021, 08:57 PM

so is the what if stuff worth watching?
Some episodes are better than others but it's a fun series that actually makes better us dome of the characters than the actual MCU does. Recommend it.

cd021

10-06-2021, 09:06 PM

Great finale. Can't wait for season 2. I need to know what Tony & Gamora were doing on Nidavellir and how they got there, it looked interesting.
Apparently, What if...? is supposed to be an annual with season two supposedly dropping next fall. For what it is, it's pretty good.

+1

CD did you get any vibes in last week's episode Watcher fighting Infinity Ultron kinda gave off vibes he was an iteration of Kang? I know that's not canon. Something about their dialogue during their sparring...
Haven't watched finale yet tho

I know very little about Kang in the comics, he sort of exists outside of time and meddles inside of time (at least one of his incarnations does) I didn't get those vibes, though I've only seen that episode once. In the comics the Watcher is its own separate thing, and IIRC he appeared in GOTG briefly. If Kang were the watcher, that means he's been around the MCU for a long time.

I was kind of hoping that it tied into the larger MCU, though there have been rumors about Supreme Strange (Dark Doctor Strange) and Cap Britain appearing in Multiverse of Madness.

LaMarcus Bryant

10-08-2021, 11:05 AM

As for the show decent finale but real formulaic wiht some of the avengers parrallel shots

Well duh, that's why I specified MCU. His dialogue in his fight were not watcher-like at all. MCU twists and warps cannon to fit stories regularly.

Pretty awesome finale. Again, seemed to go so fast...but overall solid series. Would have liked a few more minutes of Zombie Wanda fighting Infinity Ultron lol. Feels like they coulda milked that a little more.

Loki
What If
Wanda
Falolcon

cd021

10-09-2021, 09:51 PM

Sounds like their are going to be a bunch of new shows that are likely going to be announced on November 12th

Reports have them being about:

Monica Rambeau
Agatha Harkness
the 10 Rings (featuring Xialing-Shang Chi's sister)

https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-shang-chi-disney-plus-spin-off-ten-rings-sister-rumors
https://thedirect.com/article/marvel-studios-superhero-show-teyonah-parris-monica-rumors

LaMarcus Bryant

10-11-2021, 08:25 AM

Blake

10-11-2021, 09:16 AM

so is the what if stuff worth watching?

I thought a few episodes were lame and party Thor was just stupid but I really liked the last couple of episodes and how it all tied together

LaMarcus Bryant

10-11-2021, 01:07 PM

I thought a few episodes were lame and party Thor was just stupid but I really liked the last couple of episodes and how it all tied together

party thor had the tone of a looney toons episode....even the music

But I did not mind, and was fun to see him smack Danvers with his hammer in her face

cd021

10-11-2021, 09:15 PM

Adam Warlock confirmed by James Gunn to appear in Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 3, played by Will Poulter.

https://thedirect.com/article/guardians-of-the-galaxy-3-mcu-adam-warlock-will-poulter-cast

cd021

10-11-2021, 09:38 PM

Is it just me or is anyone else 100x more interested in an Agatha show than a Rambeau show? That MR storyline does absolutely nothing for me. Zilch.

-I think that Agatha is the most interesting character, and they have the most avenues they can go in with her show. They can have a couple of episodes set in the 1500's showing how she gained her powers, leading up with her at the stake. Then have a couple of episodes showing her through the 1600's-2000's leading up to the events of Wanda-Vision. With the final 2 episodes being in present day following Dr. Strange 2.

-They could build out the magic side of the MCU and add Werewolves and Vampires into the MCU ahead of Blade.

-I think the need to better characterize Monica Rambeau, she seems super serious and kind of joyless. Ironically, she was a lot more entertaining when she was in the Hex. She's actually a good actor but they need to give her decent material.

lefty20

10-13-2021, 03:34 PM

Agatha getting a show means we can expect Val to show up and recruit her for the super secret awesome band she forming.

Oh yeah, it's all coming together.

koriwhat

10-13-2021, 04:27 PM

I bet you comic nerds are just salivating at the thought of Superman's son being Bi. :lmao

Wolverine is a cross dresser btw. :lol

lefty20

10-13-2021, 04:41 PM

I bet you comic nerds are just salivating at the thought of Superman's son being Bi. :lmao

Wolverine is a cross dresser btw. :lol

I doubt most fans really care about a fictional characters sexual orientation as long as they kick ass on the pages/screen.

The meltdown on r/conservative about this topic was fun to read though, tbh.

ChumpDumper

10-14-2021, 01:29 AM

I bet you comic nerds are just salivating at the thought of Superman's son being Bi. :lmao

Wolverine is a cross dresser btw. :lol

:lol Joey cares

Blake

10-14-2021, 07:39 AM

Is it just me or is anyone else 100x more interested in an Agatha show than a Rambeau show? That MR storyline does absolutely nothing for me. Zilch.

Yeah Agatha's character is way more interesting

LaMarcus Bryant

10-14-2021, 01:00 PM

Yeah Agatha's character is way more interesting

Plus maybe she'll show bush like she did in that HBO show :whine

Blake

10-14-2021, 01:20 PM

Disney After Dark

Texas_Ranger

10-29-2021, 09:17 PM

Lol, even critics dont like eternals, which means its pretty shit. Looks like spiderman will have to save this phase.

spurraider21

11-01-2021, 12:55 PM

Lol, even critics dont like eternals, which means its pretty shit. Looks like spiderman will have to save this phase.
wasn't shang chi very well reviewed not too long ago?

Texas_Ranger

11-01-2021, 04:15 PM

wasn't shang chi very well reviewed not too long ago?

yea, pretty much everyone liked shang chi. I was more speaking for myself, as i think Shang Chi and some parts of Wandavision were the only good things so far. Eternals looks like it will be a giant CGI fest, with characters that make no sense to show up just now. I like new stuff, but from the trailers it just doesnt do it for me. Perhaps it will surprise me.

Trainwreck2100

11-01-2021, 11:41 PM

yea, pretty much everyone liked shang chi. I was more speaking for myself, as i think Shang Chi and some parts of Wandavision were the only good things so far. Eternals looks like it will be a giant CGI fest, with characters that make no sense to show up just now. I like new stuff, but from the trailers it just doesnt do it for me. Perhaps it will surprise me.

i think what if? was phenomenal, I think they could have done more than the avengers rip off scenes we got at the end though.

LaMarcus Bryant

11-02-2021, 10:53 AM

i think what if? was phenomenal, I think they could have done more than the avengers rip off scenes we got at the end though.

I had blueballs on zombie wanda fighting infinity ultron

lefty20

11-05-2021, 12:45 AM

Just saw Eternals.

Yes, the middle part was a bit of a slog but the overall product was still entertaining.

I'd definitely put it above Thor, Thor 2, IM2, Hulk, Cap 1, Captain Marvel, Widow & BP. So it's definitely not the worst MCU movie like it's RT score would suggest.

Post Credit scene 1 was awesome as hell. I'm so happy I managed to avoid all the spoilers regarding that.

Post Credit scene 2 was.... Blade, right? It definitely sounded like Mahershala Ali.

LaMarcus Bryant

11-05-2021, 07:41 AM

Have to decide Eternals, Last night in Soho, or Halloween Kills for this afternoons movie. Back in the day it was no questions go see Marvel :lol

lefty20

11-05-2021, 11:47 PM

Director confirmed that it was indeed Blade's voice in the 2nd scene.

Guess this means that Dane's origin will play out in the Blade movie. I was kinda hoping for a Disney+ series until that scene.

Does this mean that Arishem and the Celestials are the new big bad that the whole gang will need to come together for? Or will it be Kang?

LaMarcus Bryant

11-08-2021, 02:22 PM

yea, pretty much everyone liked shang chi. I was more speaking for myself, as i think Shang Chi and some parts of Wandavision were the only good things so far. Eternals looks like it will be a giant CGI fest, with characters that make no sense to show up just now. I like new stuff, but from the trailers it just doesnt do it for me. Perhaps it will surprise me.

It's funny bc even as an MCU fan, it's as if MCU is pulling a DCU and shoehorning all these new characters in that even as an MCU guy I couldn't give a rat's ass about :lol
Why spend 15 years building a universe to start shoehorning all these new squads in, in one year :lol

lefty

11-09-2021, 12:19 AM

https://twitter.com/mateothematt/status/1457890571574460416

https://twitter.com/capsparklfingrs/status/1457908655873998855?s=21

Texas_Ranger

11-09-2021, 05:56 AM

LaMarcus Bryant

11-09-2021, 02:04 PM

this tobey and andrew stuff is the worst kept secret ever. It was obvious like 2 years ago they will be in the movie. Fuck, should have just said it, who fucking cares aymore. The only think I know is that the movie will be a giant mess with 20 different characters no one will give a fuck about cause none of them will get enough screen time.

:lol rofllllll

Cannot believe that Garfield dude was ever spiderman, man wtf were they thinking. Also we got to watch jamie freakin fox be a super villain? yeah idk mane

lefty

11-09-2021, 03:20 PM

:lol rofllllll

Cannot believe that Garfield dude was ever spiderman, man wtf were they thinking. Also we got to watch jamie freakin fox be a super villain? yeah idk mane

Garfield was a good Spiderman actually, but he was a terrible Peter Parker.
Emo Parker? WTF

But hey it looks like we’re getting Matt Murdock so it’s ok

spurraider21

11-09-2021, 06:51 PM

Garfield was a good Spiderman actually, but he was a terrible Peter Parker.
Emo Parker? WTF

But hey it looks like we’re getting Matt Murdock so it’s ok
true. cocky/quippy spiderman was on point. but he was too "cool" to be parker

Texas_Ranger

11-10-2021, 07:59 AM

:lol rofllllll

Cannot believe that Garfield dude was ever spiderman, man wtf were they thinking. Also we got to watch jamie freakin fox be a super villain? yeah idk mane

I wouldnt be surprised that all these guys will get their own movies in the future. Well, except Tobey, as i assume he will die in this one. But with all these different unviverses now, i wouldnt be surprised Garfield gets the Amazing Spiderman 3. They will also wanna bring Miles Morales as soon as possible into the mix, so getting 3 different Spiderman movies in different universes would make sense, especially for Sony, as they would make lots of cash... id only be interested in a Raimi's SM 4, but as i said, Tobey is probably dying in this new one.

leemajors

11-10-2021, 08:32 AM

Miles is already in the mix?

Texas_Ranger

11-10-2021, 10:25 AM

Miles is already in the mix?

not yet, but i am pretty sure they will want him soon. Donald Glover already mentioned Miles in Homecoming.

leemajors

11-10-2021, 11:51 AM

not yet, but i am pretty sure they will want him soon. Donald Glover already mentioned Miles in Homecoming.

I would rather he just stay in the Spider Verse

lefty20

11-10-2021, 05:26 PM

I'd prefer it if they saved Miles for until after Tom Holland is done playing this role, tbh.

rjv

11-11-2021, 01:11 PM

LaMarcus Bryant

11-11-2021, 05:35 PM

At the rate we're heading, that Pattinson batman with that douche riddler may be better than mcu

lefty20

11-11-2021, 06:09 PM

so i had hoped to see Eternals but the tepid response from fans and critics alike has me reconsidering; has anyone had a chance to see it yet? if so, any takes or opinions. from what i hear, it seems like the most DC like Marvel movie to date. which would be a negative for me.

It's not a terrible movie by any means, it's just average. Which in itself is a disappointment because the expectations were higher given the quality of director and talent attached to this ip.

Spoilers ahead.

Cons -

Ikaris and Sersi just never clicked. They had no chemistry whatsoever. This is pretty big considering how important their relationship is to the plot.

Dane and Sersi were slightly better but still...

I'd lay the blame here on Gemma Chan, her acting left much to be desired.

Same goes but Salma Hayek, but fwiw her role was comparatively minor.

Too many characters introduced in one movie. They tried their best but it is a bit bloated.

Not enough action. You'd think this would help because it'd mean more time to flesh out the characters, but no.

Pros -

Druig and Makkari - The chemistry was off the charts. It's easy to see why they are fan favorites.

The humor is toned down. Not every other line is a quip from the entire cast.

The final action sequence - Ikaris vs Makkari and Phastos vs Ikaris was fantastic.

The philosophical question posed by the plot was fascinating as well and very well handled I thought. Especially, Kingo's stance on it.

NASpurs

11-12-2021, 11:42 AM

You dudes are alive?

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NASpurs

11-12-2021, 11:49 AM

Following that:

Moon Knight
She Hulk
Ms Marvel
What if Season 2
Echo
Spiderman Freshman Year
I am Groot
Ironheart
Agatha House of Darkness
Marvel Zombies
Secret Invasion

It's what they've announced so far

LaMarcus Bryant

11-12-2021, 12:42 PM

I'm in on XMen 97. Here's hoping they keep it '97. That's peak Xmen right there

rjv

11-12-2021, 03:41 PM

It's not a terrible movie by any means, it's just average. Which in itself is a disappointment because the expectations were higher given the quality of director and talent attached to this ip.

Spoilers ahead.

Cons -

Ikaris and Sersi just never clicked. They had no chemistry whatsoever. This is pretty big considering how important their relationship is to the plot.

Dane and Sersi were slightly better but still...

I'd lay the blame here on Gemma Chan, her acting left much to be desired.

Same goes but Salma Hayek, but fwiw her role was comparatively minor.

Too many characters introduced in one movie. They tried their best but it is a bit bloated.

Not enough action. You'd think this would help because it'd mean more time to flesh out the characters, but no.

Pros -

Druig and Makkari - The chemistry was off the charts. It's easy to see why they are fan favorites.

The humor is toned down. Not every other line is a quip from the entire cast.

The final action sequence - Ikaris vs Makkari and Phastos vs Ikaris was fantastic.

The philosophical question posed by the plot was fascinating as well and very well handled I thought. Especially, Kingo's stance on it.

thanks. i'm leaning towards seeing it soon.

lefty

11-12-2021, 04:48 PM

lefty20

11-12-2021, 07:37 PM

We got a What if Season 2 announcement but no Loki season 2.

I know that it's still happening, them not mentioning means it will follow Qantumania instead of preceding it.

lefty

11-12-2021, 08:54 PM

Shang Chi >>>> Black Panther as far as Marvel fake effort for diversity movies go

Blake

11-12-2021, 11:12 PM

How Ethan Hawke ended up in 'Moon Knight'

"....During an appearance on “Late Night with Seth Meyers” earlier this year, Hawke revealed that Isaac recruited him personally to star in the MCU series. “I heard about it from Oscar Isaac, who lives like, you know, three blocks down the street from me in Brooklyn,” Hawke said. “I was at a coffee shop. He came up to me, he’s like, ‘Hey, I really liked “The Good Lord Bird.”’ I was like ‘Hey, cool, I really like your work. You’re amazing.’ He’s like, ‘Hey, want to be in the “Moon Knight” with me?’ I was like, ‘Yeah.'”...

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/moon-knight-first-look-oscar-173237395.html

Blake

11-12-2021, 11:18 PM

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Trill Clinton

11-13-2021, 02:18 PM

Shang Chi >>>> Black Panther as far as Marvel fake effort for diversity movies go

Finally watched this last night. I fell asleep on it.

lefty

11-13-2021, 02:23 PM

Finally watched this last night. I fell asleep on it.

Same when I watched Black Panther tbh

Texas_Ranger

11-13-2021, 06:39 PM

Shang Chi >>>> Black Panther as far as Marvel fake effort for diversity movies go

id say shang chi is more fun, but i also think they are both low tier mcu movies. Black Panter was by far the best in Civil War.

Trill Clinton

11-13-2021, 07:26 PM

Oh yea, saw eternals yesterday too. Fell asleep on it. Way too long for a group of boring superheroes nobody asked for.

lefty

11-14-2021, 02:42 AM

id say shang chi is more fun, but i also think they are both low tier mcu movies. Black Panter was by far the best in Civil War.
BP’s suit was awesome in CW , then they designed an ugly suit for the BP movie

Shang Chi was visually stunning

Tony Leung was fantastic as always, and most of his scenes in this movie were 1 take only

I also like the dude who pays the titular character, he was pretty good in Kim’s convenience (canadian sitcom lol)