Marvel is announcing a sh..load of new movies OMG

[spurraider21]

really think guardians will be that far back?

[cd021]

really think guardians will be that far back?

Hard to say, sounds like they may film next year after Suicide Squad wraps up. Usually takes a year from the finish of shooting till release but Eternals seem much closer to production.

Also hard to see Disney putting out GOTG 3 in November when it should probably be a summer release, unless they flip it with CM2.

[cd021]

Russo's mentioned that an existing character in Endgame is gay and will be revealed in a future release.

My money is on Cap-Falcon or maybe Rhodes. Cap Marvel would be too easy a guess, especially with the haircut tbh.

[Trainwreck2100]

Russo's mentioned that an existing character in Endgame is gay and will be revealed in a future release.

My money is on Cap-Falcon or maybe Rhodes. Cap Marvel would be too easy a guess, especially with the haircut tbh.


Idiots are clamoring for her to be with her black friend from the movie, because people can't develop strong familial relationships with people not in their family.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Idiots are clamoring for her to be with her black friend from the movie, because people can't develop strong familial relationships with people not in their family.

Wow Trainwreck you really fuckin hate Captain Marvel lolol
Stop personally attacking Brie

[spurraider21]

Russo's mentioned that an existing character in Endgame is gay and will be revealed in a future release.

My money is on Cap-Falcon or maybe Rhodes. Cap Marvel would be too easy a guess, especially with the haircut tbh.
Groot

[cd021]

Idiots are clamoring for her to be with her black friend from the movie, because people can't develop strong familial relationships with people not in their family.

Yeah that is weird, they did the same with Rodgers and Bucky when they are just boys from way back.

[lefty]

Russo's mentioned that an existing character in Endgame is gay and will be revealed in a future release.

My money is on Cap-Falcon or maybe Rhodes. Cap Marvel would be too easy a guess, especially with the haircut tbh.

Yeah I listened to that interview

I immediately thought it would be Carol.

Or maybe Korg and Miek :lol

[Spurminator]

This may be a weird opinion, but they should have made Infinity War a trilogy. Endgame was 3 hours long and still felt rushed at times.

They could have added an hour and split it into two films. (Think of the box office killing.)

[lefty]

This may be a weird opinion, but they should have made Infinity War a trilogy. Endgame was 3 hours long and still felt rushed at times.

They could have added an hour and split it into two films. (Think of the box office killing.)
Lots of other things factoring in : contracts, actors availabilities, shooting Disney + series , etc etc

[Spurminator]

Lots of other things factoring in : contracts, actors availabilities, shooting Disney + series , etc etc

Seems like they could've made it work if it meant an extra couple billion dollars.

[lefty]

Seems like they could've made it work if it meant an extra couple billion dollars.

I think they are really set when it comes to $$ :lol

[lefty]

Also, the production costs for IW and EG were really high

[cd021]

Also, the production costs for IW and EG were really high

Read an article that it cost $350-$400 promotion to make EG with $150 million in promotion

that's up to $650 million even if it makes $2.8 billion, it's still a pricey cost tag.

[Spurminator]

I think they are really set when it comes to $$ :lol

I don't work in the business but that doesn't sound like how I imagine movie studios work.

[Trainwreck2100]

Read an article that it cost $350-$400 promotion to make EG with $150 million in promotion

that's up to $650 million even if it makes $2.8 billion, it's still a pricey cost tag.

it was a safe bet though, both avengers movies crossed a billion so they probably figured they would get their money back from the first one and the 2nd would be pure profit

[cd021]

Details on the Wanda-Vison Disney + show.

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a27477761/wandavision-scarlet-witch-vision-disney/

Supposed to be eight, 45 minute episodes (6 hours).

https://screenrant.com/wandavision-disney-plus-show-filming-start-date-length/

Set in the 1950's and rumored to be a very loose adaptation of the House of M. She may imagine a reality where her and Vision are married with children, set in the '50s.

[cd021]

Falcon & Winter Soldier - Disney + Show Details

-Baron Zemo (the villian from Civil War) and Sharon Carter are set to return.

-Reportedly 6 episodes, possibly 45 minutes each (4.5 hours)

-Supposedly set after Endgame where Falcon is now Captain America

-Set to debut August, 2020

-Already has a director


https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/05/20/baron-zemo-daniel-bruhl-sharon-carter-falcon-winter-soldier-disney-plus-show/ (https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/05/20/baron-zemo-daniel-bruhl-sharon-carter-falcon-winter-soldier-disney-plus-show/)

[djohn2oo8]

Looks like Marvel is looking to introduce Deadpool into the MCU

[lefty]

Looks like Marvel is looking to introduce Deadpool into the MCU

With severe R rating?

[cd021]

With severe R rating?
Rumored to be in Spider Man 3- so no.

[lefty]

Rumored to be in Spider Man 3- so no.
I don’t think he’ll be in Spidey 3

I just hope they keep Reynolds

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I don’t think he’ll be in Spidey 3

I just hope they keep Reynolds

They'd be idiotic to do that. He should be given a wolverine Jackman type deal for the next 15 years

[lefty]

They'd be idiotic to do that. He should be given a wolverine Jackman type deal for the next 15 years

Jackman is Wolverine
Reynolds is Deadpool
RDJ is Stark

Hard to see anyone else in those roles tbh, but it’s not impossible either

[cd021]

I don’t think he’ll be in Spidey 3

I just hope they keep Reynolds

There's no talk about him being replaced but it does seem like it's unlikely that DP will be in Spiderman 3.

Venom is rumored to be the villain though.

[lefty]

Venom is rumored to be the villain though.

Yup

[spurraider21]

There's no talk about him being replaced but it does seem like it's unlikely that DP will be in Spiderman 3.

Venom is rumored to be the villain though.


Yup
tom hardy?

[lefty]

tom hardy?
I guess so

[cd021]

tom hardy?

He is supposed to reprise his role but I don't know what Sony is doing. Seems like they were building towards the sinister six (with Vulture, Tinkerer, Shocker, Mysterio, Charmeleon all appearing in the first two movies)

Having Venom be the villian of Spiderman pushes that back, unless they have him join that group.

It also means that Venom will likely survive his fight with Spider-Man because by the time Spiderman 3 gets released, Venom 2 will have already been released.

[spurraider21]

He is supposed to reprise his role but I don't know what Sony is doing. Seems like they were building towards the sinister six (with Vulture, Tinkerer, Shocker, Mysterio, Charmeleon all appearing in the first two movies)

Having Venom be the villian of Spiderman pushes that back, unless they have him join that group.

It also means that Venom will likely survive his fight with Spider-Man because by the time Spiderman 3 gets released, Venom 2 will have already been released.
in venom 2 has already released, what stops him from dying in spiderman 3?

[Xevious]

I'd prefer they keep Deadpool and Venom separate and out of the MCU tbh.

[Trainwreck2100]

I doubt feige greenlights venom in the MCU, it's just Sony trying to set their own universe alongside spider man to piggyback off of spider man. Kinda like how Agents of Shield does it, it's not part of the MCU cause it was Whedon's baby and feige doesn't like it, same with the netflix shows, that's why even though there is crossover they are never even mentioned in the movies themselves.

[cd021]

in venom 2 has already released, what stops him from dying in spiderman 3?

Venom trilogy tbh, no way Sony doesn't milk it for all it's worth.

[lefty]

I doubt feige greenlights venom in the MCU, it's just Sony trying to set their own universe alongside spider man to piggyback off of spider man. Kinda like how Agents of Shield does it, it's not part of the MCU cause it was Whedon's baby and feige doesn't like it, same with the netflix shows, that's why even though there is crossover they are never even mentioned in the movies themselves.

AOS is part of the MCU

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Robert Pattinson twighlight british guy got cast as the new B:loltm:loln

[lefty]

Robert Pattinson twighlight british guy got cast as the new B:loltm:loln

Wrong thread imo

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Wrong thread imo

This is also the shit on DC thread I thought

[lefty]

This is also the shit on DC thread I thought
Eh Pattinson could end up being a good Batman

Remember the backlash when Ledger was cast as the Joker

[spurraider21]

Eh Pattinson could end up being a good Batman

Remember the backlash when Ledger was cast as the Joker
or when affleck was cast as batman

[UZER]

or when affleck was cast as batman

Or when Silverstone was cast a Batgirl

[lefty]

or when affleck was cast as batman

Batfleck was awesome tbh

[lefty]

Or when Silverstone was cast a Batgirl

That movie should have never existed

:lol ‘ D:lolnell

[UZER]

That movie should have never existed

:lol ‘ D:lolnell

I was joking :lol

Yeah that movie was utter garbáge. Clooney’s was horrible and his constant head bobbing in the cowl was annoying. .

[LaMarcus Bryant]

LOLOL I never noticed or picked up on the Clooney head bobbing thing

[lefty]

I was joking :lol

Yeah that movie was utter garbáge. Clooney’s was horrible and his constant head bobbing in the cowl was annoying. .

I know lol

And yeah he used to do that annoying head bobbing back then, and it was worse in ER, he did it like every 2 seconds

[djohn2oo8]

In addition to the aforementioned movies, there are reportedly plans to make Thor 4 (https://movieweb.com/movie/thor-4/), Ant-Man 3, and Captain Marvel 2. As for further down the line, the source claims New Avengers, Young Avengers, and Dark Avengersmovies are also in development at this time. This is a lot of information to take in and some of it may or may not end up happening when all is said and done. However, the person behind the leaks has been pretty on point over the past few years on Avengers: Endgame and Infinity War.




RIP DC

[Othyus Lalanne]

In addition to the aforementioned movies, there are reportedly plans to make Thor 4 (https://movieweb.com/movie/thor-4/), Ant-Man 3, and Captain Marvel 2. As for further down the line, the source claims New Avengers, Young Avengers, and Dark Avengersmovies are also in development at this time. This is a lot of information to take in and some of it may or may not end up happening when all is said and done. However, the person behind the leaks has been pretty on point over the past few years on Avengers: Endgame and Infinity War.




RIP DC


Why are DC movies dead exactly?

[lefty]

Why are DC movies dead exactly?
Snap

[lefty]

In addition to the aforementioned movies, there are reportedly plans to make Thor 4 (https://movieweb.com/movie/thor-4/), Ant-Man 3, and Captain Marvel 2. As for further down the line, the source claims New Avengers, Young Avengers, and Dark Avengersmovies are also in development at this time. This is a lot of information to take in and some of it may or may not end up happening when all is said and done. However, the person behind the leaks has been pretty on point over the past few years on Avengers: Endgame and Infinity War.




RIP DC



Imo Dark Avengers is happening, Osborn is the next MCU big bad

Young Avengers is a possibility

Personally I want Secret Wars and Dark Avengers

[Reck]

:lol Thank God Marvel is going to take over the X-Men movies going forward.

Dark Phoenix is pure basura apparently.

:lol Fox pinning their hopes and dreams on Sophie Turner who cant act for shit.

[Othyus Lalanne]

Snap

They are still coming...

[lefty]

Idk if it’s legit or not tbh ....

1133747402119081984

[Reck]

Idk if it’s legit or not tbh ....

1133747402119081984

So they're still going to push Captain "Thanos"s bitch" Marvel after her disasterous solo movie and not living up to the hype in Endgame? :lol

[Xevious]

So they're still going to push Captain "Thanos"s bitch" Marvel after her disasterous solo movie and not living up to the hype in Endgame? :lol

It made a shit load of money. How was it disastrous? The Russos said she was underused in Endgame because they weren't sure yet what all they were going to do/reveal in her solo movie.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

:lol Thank God Marvel is going to take over the X-Men movies going forward.

Dark Phoenix is pure basura apparently.

:lol Fox pinning their hopes and dreams on Sophie Turner who cant act for shit.

Sophie gonna be good The Fappening material pretty soon tbhhhh

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Idk if it’s legit or not tbh ....

1133747402119081984

IDK how tha fuck they can do the Thunderbolts without an Onslaught-level wipeout of the entire MCU, but if they somehow do it right........hoooooly fuck

[Reck]

It made a shit load of money. How was it disastrous? The Russos said she was underused in Endgame because they weren't sure yet what all they were going to do/reveal in her solo movie.

It was a disaster in terms of entertainment. It made that much money on the back of the other movies. It wasn't because the movie was actually good. In my opinion anyways.

There is something about Brie that I dont like. It's like Michelle Rodriguez. That fucking smug look and attitude I hate.

[Xevious]

It was a disaster in terms of entertainment. It made that much money on the back of the other movies. It wasn't because the movie was actually good. In my opinion anyways.

There is something about Brie that I dont like. It's like Michelle Rodriguez. That fucking smug look and attitude I hate.

I didn't care for the movie or Brie Larson either, but there is no reason to think Marvel/Disney wouldn't continue to push that character.

[Othyus Lalanne]

It made a shit load of money. How was it disastrous? The Russos said she was underused in Endgame because they weren't sure yet what all they were going to do/reveal in her solo movie.

Bad PR, these movies are for everyone not the Democratic Party.

[cd021]

Idk if it’s legit or not tbh ....

1133747402119081984

95% sure this is a fan made list from Marvel's sub reddit.

No way they would waste a movie on the Wasp when she is apart of the Ant Man franchise. Namor is rumored to be the villian of BP 2 so they wouldn't likely use a movie slot on him. Warlock is rumored to be introduced in GOTG 3

Also doesn't include Eternals or Master of Kung Fu even though both are close to pre-production

More likely;

1. May 1st, 2020- The Black Widow


2. November 6, 2020 - The Eternals


3. February 12, 2021 - Master Of Kung Fu


4. May 7, 2021 - Black Panther 2


5. July 29, 2021 - Spider-Man 3


6. November 5, 2021 -Doctor Strange 2


7. February 18, 2022 - Captain Marvel 2


8. May 6, 2022 - Guardians of the Galaxy 3


9. November 7, 2022- Ant-Man 3

10. Nova

11. Thor 4

12. New Avengers

[cd021]

It was a disaster in terms of entertainment. It made that much money on the back of the other movies. It wasn't because the movie was actually good. In my opinion anyways.

There is something about Brie that I dont like. It's like Michelle Rodriguez. That fucking smug look and attitude I hate.

Can't stand her ass either but Larson is fine. Captain Marvel dropped from 4 stars to 3 stars in my book after re-watching it the other day.

After re-watching Endgame, her role was perfectly fine tbh. Her job isn't to protect the earth, its to protect the universe, her being gone for much of the movie is a result of Thanos killing billions of creatures across the universe and her dealing with the fallout.

She comes back and destroys Thanos' ship and then takes him on by herself- something that really only Scarlett Witch was able to do (she's the real underused character in the last two Avengers movies)

[Xevious]

Speaking of disaster... Dark Phoenix is bombing. Not a huge surprise since nobody really seemed interested in a Sophie Turner-led retelling of a story the Xmen franchise has already done (even if The Last Stand was a conplete shit show). It also seems completely unearned since Sophie Turner had such a small part in Apocalypse (which was also shitty).

It seems like the perfect time to take a short break from the Xmen and completely retool them for the MCU a couple years down the road.

[Reck]

Speaking of disaster... Dark Phoenix is bombing. Not a huge surprise since nobody really seemed interested in a Sophie Turner-led retelling of a story the Xmen franchise has already done (even if The Last Stand was a conplete shit show). It also seems completely unearned since Sophie Turner had such a small part in Apocalypse (which was also shitty).

It seems like the perfect time to take a short break from the Xmen and completely retool them for the MCU a couple years down the road.

Just Bryan Singer trying to cash in on a GOT star.

Thing is, she's not even that good of an actress so her getting the Jean Grey role is a joke. That character is too mature for her.

Which coincidentally is a big reason why they didn't include Wolverine in it. They said they thought about bringing in Hugh Jackman for a cameo but since he's like 50 it would look weird for him to even flirt with this Jean Grey.

So in essense, she made the movie suck even more than it had to.

[FrostKing]

Speaking of disaster... Dark Phoenix is bombing. Not a huge surprise since nobody really seemed interested in a Sophie Turner-led retelling of a story the Xmen franchise has already done (even if The Last Stand was a conplete shit show). It also seems completely unearned since Sophie Turner had such a small part in Apocalypse (which was also shitty).

It seems like the perfect time to take a short break from the Xmen and completely retool them for the MCU a couple years down the road.
Bad timing. Genre is oversatured and X-Men are going deep story line episode. The average fan is not invested in Jean Gray. I am not seeing it as X-Men fan.

[Xevious]

Bad timing. Genre is oversatured and X-Men are going deep story line episode. The average fan is not invested in Jean Gray. I am not seeing it as X-Men fan.
The genre has been oversaturated for years. That doesn't stop Marvel from dropping movies that make a billion plus. And I don't buy that Jean Gray business. She was plenty popular and people were excited for the phoenix storyline after the tease at the end of X2 all those years ago. Like I said earlier, this Sophie Turner version feels completely rushed and unearned, she's had like 15 minutes of dialogue before this movie.

[Blake]

Saw Dark Phoenix earlier. 3/10.

Worst XMen movie, imo. Seeing Chastain's hairless eyebrows for 90+ minutes made it even more miserable to watch.

Nothing to this flick at all. Horrible plot, horrible script, ridiculous fight scenes. Just bleh.

[jjktkk]

Wonder if or when they will include the Fantastic 4 in any upcoming movies.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

LOL, damn DP taking a beating. I'll prob still peep it this weekend.

[spurraider21]

lefty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ6KIK7taGc

[lefty]

lefty


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZ6KIK7taGc

Yup already saw it

:lol “TV series with movies”

[leemajors]

https://io9.gizmodo.com/avengers-endgame-is-returning-to-theaters-real-soon-a-1835649149

Back in theatres soon with new footage :lol

[Reck]

https://io9.gizmodo.com/avengers-endgame-is-returning-to-theaters-real-soon-a-1835649149

Back in theatres soon with new footage :lol

Shameless.

As if the 3 billion it made wasn't enough they want to get a paultry 40 something millions just for bragging rights and to say AHA we beat Avatar.

[lefty]

Pathetic

[lefty]

Apparently the Spiderman FFH ‘s ending and post credit scrnes are mind blowing

Avoid spoilers at all costs

[cd021]

The new Black Widow (Yelena Belova) is supposed to be introduced in the Black Widow movie played by Florence Pugh

https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2017/11/gettyimages-813428662-h_2017.jpg

Not Scar Jo but not bad at all.

[lefty]

The new Black Widow (Yelena Belova) is supposed to be introduced in the Black Widow movie played by Florence Pugh

https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/landscape_928x523/2017/11/gettyimages-813428662-h_2017.jpg

Not Scar Jo but not bad at all.

Lol better looking than ScarJo

[cd021]

Lol better looking than ScarJo
She hot but is she Winter Soldier ScarJo hot?

[Reck]

Lol better looking than ScarJo

Not seeing it.

Bordering on fat this one..

Short too. :lol

[lefty]

Not seeing it.

Bordering on fat this one..

Short too. :lol
I mean the face

:lol I hadn’t seen her body

[lefty]

She hot but is she Winter Soldier ScarJo hot?
WS Scarjo is still Scarjo with a different haircut

[LaMarcus Bryant]

lefty, give us the goods on the new tom holland movie

[lefty]

lefty, give us the goods on the new tom holland movie
Haven’t seen it yet

[lefty20]

Just saw it... Incredible! They really nailed Mysterio.


Apparently the Spiderman FFH ‘s ending and post credit scrnes are mind blowing

Can confirm.

[Texas_Ranger]

best part of Far from Home was the part from the Sam Raimi films. Other than that I'd give it a 6.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Little Tom Holland is America's sweetheart. Can't wait to see this one.

[cd021]

4.5/5 tbh

Jake Gyllenhaal and Tom Holland were fantastic, especially Gyllenhaal.

Thought the very last end credit kinda knocked the movie down a peg but overall very good.

[pookenstein]

I thought the Happy-May storyline was a bit forced, but otherwise I really enjoyed the movie. Mysterio was great and Holland wasn't bad either. Great midcredit Scene and the porstcredit might set a few things up.

[leemajors]

I thought the first half dragged a but, but the second half was very entertaining.

[spurraider21]

spiderman was legit :tu

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I thought the Happy-May storyline was a bit forced, but otherwise I really enjoyed the movie. Mysterio was great and Holland wasn't bad either. Great midcredit Scene and the porstcredit might set a few things up.

Those aunt may booty close-up shots though :wow:

[chunticakes]

Those aunt may booty close-up shots though :wow:

No lie. And that last airport ass jeans scene :eyebrows

Hard to believe Marisa Tomei is fucking 54 years old.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

No lie. And that last airport ass jeans scene :eyebrows

Hard to believe Marisa Tomei is fucking 54 years old.

That Camera was fuckin GLUED to that ass in every scene she was in.
And rightfully so. Would smash.

[redzero]

I liked Far From Home. Some of the humor didn't land, but the plot was interesting enough to keep one guessing. This was better than Homecoming and had nice tie-in with Iron Man and Captain America: Civil War. I just don't like that Mysterio was an accidental Iron Man villain and not a Spider-Man villain from the jump. Marvel really are grooming Spider-Man as Iron Man 2.0., but Peter Parker should be his own man with Uncle Ben as a mentor. But that's just me, a Spider-Man traditionalist who is wondering why MJ is now a halfrican american.

Gyllenhaal was great; I didn't think he would appear in a superhero movie, but it looks like everyone in Hollywood will be in one eventually. Mysterio was Scarecrow in steroids. It's just too bad that he only flaunted his "powers" against Spider-Man in one confrontation. Holland was good, but his romance with MJ was awkward, because I don't want to see two kids kiss. I miss the days when 30-year-olds played teenagers. Speaking of people in their 30's, why is an Asian dude in his 30's in a romantic rivalry with a teenager? That actor doesn't look 16 and he doesn't look 21 either.

Anyway, it was stupid to put the gigantic plot point of Peter Parker's identity being revealed in a mid-credits scene. I know MCU fans should know by now, but that should have happened before the credits.

Out of curiosity, how many people were actually fooled by the Mysterio twist? Imagine if Scarecrow was depicted in a Batman trailer as the hero. Mysterio is a villain, so I immediately knew that something was wrong. Did the average moviegoer, who isn't a big comic or Spidey fan, buy into Mysterio being portrayed as a hero? (Skrull) Nick Fury admitted that his story sounded like bullshit, Mysterio himself pointed out how ridiculous it sounded, and the "conflict" is resolved in the second act. Obviously, something is up. But I will say that the average moviegoer, who wants to see the next big MCU Spider-Man movie with their kids, probably didn't know.

[Blake]

Homecoming was better but this was still a lot of fun. I missed RD Jr.

I still can't stand how they portray MJ as edgy emo and Flash as just a non threatening side nuisance that's not funny at all.

And lol why would Tony bestow a space defense system to a high school kid instead of to his military best friend Rhodey?

[redzero]

Homecoming was better but this was still a lot of fun. I missed RD Jr.

I still can't stand how they portray MJ as edgy emo and Flash as just a non threatening side nuisance that's not funny at all.

And lol why would Tony bestow a space defense system to a high school kid instead of to his military best friend Rhodey?
I don't think Homecoming was better. Spider-Man almost caused another 9/11 by trying to stop The Vulture. Let the dude steal the plane at that point. At least Spider-Man actually doesn't make things worse in Far From Ho--oh, I just realized that he did by giving Mysetrio the glasses. I guess in Homecoming, he made things worse by trying to fix the problem, but in Far From Home, he is the one who caused the problem.

Addressing your second point with Tony, this dude created a killer robot in Age of Ultron, and his solution was to create a second killer robot. This is what irked me in Civil War, because nobody called him out on this shit. Wanda's brother died because of him Bruce. He absolutely should have been arrested.

[Texas_Ranger]

Homecoming was better but this was still a lot of fun. I missed RD Jr.

I still can't stand how they portray MJ as edgy emo and Flash as just a non threatening side nuisance that's not funny at all.

And lol why would Tony bestow a space defense system to a high school kid instead of to his military best friend Rhodey?

This is perhaps my biggest problem. I actualy like it's when Spider-Man is on his own, but I guess you can't really have this type of films anymore in the MCU. There will always be some other character that will show up.

I'd say I enjoyed Homecoming more and this was a pretty good movie. Still think the 2 Raimi films are better than this version.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Homecoming was better but this was still a lot of fun. I missed RD Jr.

I still can't stand how they portray MJ as edgy emo and Flash as just a non threatening side nuisance that's not funny at all.

And lol why would Tony bestow a space defense system to a high school kid instead of to his military best friend Rhodey?

I laughed my ass off when he bopped Flash on the head and he passed out.
yeah the tony defense system glasses was quite the macguffin

[LaMarcus Bryant]

I don't think Homecoming was better. Spider-Man almost caused another 9/11 by trying to stop The Vulture. Let the dude steal the plane at that point. At least Spider-Man actually doesn't make things worse in Far From Ho--oh, I just realized that he did by giving Mysetrio the glasses. I guess in Homecoming, he made things worse by trying to fix the problem, but in Far From Home, he is the one who caused the problem.

Addressing your second point with Tony, this dude created a killer robot in Age of Ultron, and his solution was to create a second killer robot. This is what irked me in Civil War, because nobody called him out on this shit. Wanda's brother died because of him Bruce. He absolutely should have been arrested.

Also yeah Spiderman far from home again drove home the point that Tony Stark's creations inevitably screw over everyone and everything. Dude was a menace, tbh lol

[lefty]

1151207235155980288

[lefty20]

Addressing your second point with Tony, this dude created a killer robot in Age of Ultron, and his solution was to create a second killer robot. This is what irked me in Civil War, because nobody called him out on this shit. Wanda's brother died because of him Bruce. He absolutely should have been arrested.

It wasn't just Tony and Bruce. Wanda and Thanos & Maw were kind enough to help in the Ultron project as well.

Let's start by asking a key question here. Tony had already created multiple AI's before he made Ultron. Among these were Jarvis, Friday, Karen & Dum-E. None of them have shown any "must kill all humans" tendencies. And remember, Jarvis was once in control of the Iron Legion and all of Tony's extra suits in IM3. So it's more than fair to assume that Tony knew exactly what he's doing when it comes to coding an AI. He also had the sense to seek extra help from Bruce before trying to create one as powerful as Ultron. So what went wrong Ultron then?

That's easy. Marvel has officially helped confirm this theory.

https://screenrant.com/avengers-loki-theory-mind-stone-thanos/


We know that Maw is Thanos' science guy, since he is always the one operating all of the devices used in Infinity War and Endgame. We can safely conclude that Thanos had Maw build the Secpter around the Mind Stone to manipulate it's power in for a singular purpose. It's main job would be influence those under it's power to start killing shit.

Ultron's code was fine. Tony fucking Stark wrote it. Shit went wrong after the code was run through the tainted Scepter to activate Ultron. Now let's ask who gave Tony the Scepter, and what made him desperate enough to activate Ultron without running it by his teammates? Wanda

First, she fucked with Tony's mind at the Hydra base by showing him all of his friends dead and the world on the brink of a deadly invasion. She then twisted that dagger for maximum damage by having Cap blame Tony for not doing more to prevent this. After all that, she just let him walk off with the Scepter to see what he'd do in desperation. Bitch fucked up, tbh.


Now let's focus on why Tony would give EDITH to Peter over Rhodey.

I'd guess that it's because he agreed with Cap. Cap was pretty clear on why he didn't wanna join the Accords. He didn't really trust in anyof governing bodies around the world. Those MF's have their own agendas and they change, a lot. Instead he prefer'd put his trust in individuals, the people. Giving EDITH to Rhodey would've meant giving it to the government, since Rhodey (presumably) is still a part of the US Army.

So,why not give to Peter then? Kid is pure of heart, though he can be gullible at times. And Let's face it, he's prolly the only other Avenger(besides Cap & Thor, duh) who's worthy enough to life Mjolnir.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

There are two lefty's now wtf

[spurraider21]

Homecoming was better but this was still a lot of fun. I missed RD Jr.

I still can't stand how they portray MJ as edgy emo and Flash as just a non threatening side nuisance that's not funny at all.

And lol why would Tony bestow a space defense system to a high school kid instead of to his military best friend Rhodey?
who cares about flash once parker has his powers, anyway.

[Blake]

who cares about flash once parker has his powers, anyway.

They really never have found much of a place for him in the movies.

[cd021]

War Machine Disney + series reportedly in the works.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

War Machine Disney + series reportedly in the works.

Weak. Disney is gonna fuck this universe up so bad in the long run. We'll always have 08-19

[Xevious]

War Machine Disney + series reportedly in the works.
Bleh. All these series based on characters too weak to hold their own movies/franchises... hopefully none of these will be required viewing for the overall phase 4 and beyond arcs, and will be more or less standalone.

[redzero]

Bleh. All these series based on characters too weak to hold their own movies/franchises... hopefully none of these will be required viewing for the overall phase 4 and beyond arcs, and will be more or less standalone.
Captain Marvel was a SyFy movie with a big budget, and it made a billion dollars. These shows will be successful.

[FrostKing]

Captain Marvel was a SyFy movie with a big budget, and it made a billion dollars. These shows will be successful.
Captain Marvel has a 78% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. When a SJW flick is that low on there - it was shit

[Captain Marvel]

Captain Marvel has a 78% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. When a SJW flick is that low on there - it was shit
Shut up wei

[cd021]

Weak. Disney is gonna fuck this universe up so bad in the long run. We'll always have 08-19

Don't buy that all tbh, Phase 4 looks a lot better than phase 3 does on paper. A 6 episode War Machine limited series isn't going to ruin it.


Bleh. All these series based on characters too weak to hold their own movies/franchises... hopefully none of these will be required viewing for the overall phase 4 and beyond arcs, and will be more or less standalone.

That's kinda the point, fleshing out lesser Avengers in a limited series. Allows for Marvel to tell more complex stories. These limited series could have big implications for the MCU. The new Hawkeye (Kate Bishop) is supposed to be introduced in the Hawkeye series.

The WandaVision series could introduce Wiccan and Speed. The Falcon and Winter Soldier series could set up the Thunderbolts with Zemo and Captain America 4. A War Machine series could introduce Iron Lad (a different version from the comics. In A few years they could make a Young Avengers movie with new Hawk eye, Wiccan, Speed, Iron Lad already being established.

[Reck]

Phase 4 Announced.



May 1, 2020 -- Black Widow
Fall 2020 -- Falcon and Winter Soldier (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/falcon-and-winter-soldier-series-confirmed-for-dis/1100-6466195/)
November 6, 2020 -- The Eternals (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/marvels-eternals-officially-confirmed-for-mcu-phas/1100-6468584/)
February 12, 2021 -- Shang-Chi and the Legend of the 10 Rings (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sdcc-marvel-confirms-shang-chi-will-be-second-film/1100-6468587/)
Spring 2021 -- WandaVision (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sdcc-2019-vision-and-scarlet-witch-series-wandavis/1100-6468582/)
May 7, 2021 -- Doctor Strange 2: In The Multiverse of Madness (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/doctor-strange-2-release-date-confirmed-for-mcu-ph/1100-6468589/)
Spring 2021 -- Loki (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/marvel-confirms-lokis-endgame-moment-sets-up-disne/1100-6468588/)
Summer 2021 -- "What If?" animated series (https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sdcc-what-if-marvel-studios-first-animated-series-/1100-6468590/)
Fall 2021 -- Hawkeye
November 5, 2021 -- Thor: Love and Thunder

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D_9n_ATUYAEZ4N8?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/sdcc-marvels-phase-4-movie-release-date-schedule-l/1100-6468583/

[djohn2oo8]

1152756106772516867

[Reck]

Wait...Nathalie Portman is going to be playing Thor?

I thought she was gonna be back as Thor's chick. :lol

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Fuck yeah what if sounds dope

[djohn2oo8]

1152768426038956032

[Reck]

1152756106772516867

Surprised they went this route instead of rejuvenating the character with someone...you know young.

[Blake]

Ah I used to like the What If comics. Should be a great animated series.

[spurraider21]

Wait...Nathalie Portman is going to be playing Thor?

I thought she was gonna be back as Thor's chick. :lol
jane foster becomes thor at some point tbh

im just surprised shes back in the mcu at all

[spurraider21]

:lmao DC

[cd021]

Blade with Ali sounds dope. So does Dr. Strange with Scarlett Witch, Thor 4 too :tu

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Sucks we gotta wait that long for more adventures of Fat Thor.
Where's guardians? Was hoping for more star lord and thor shenanigans

[cd021]

Dr Strange definitely sounds like the best of the announced movies tbh. The described as "psychedelic" and a "scary movie" also ties directly into WandaVison and has Scarlett Witch in it. Plus actually getting to see the multiverse.

[cd021]

Sucks we gotta wait that long for more adventures of Fat Thor.
Where's guardians? Was hoping for more star lord and thor shenanigans

Looks like it's going to be 2022 possibly with Captain Marvel 2, Black Panther 2 and Spiderman 3 (possibly including Daredevil)

Thats an crazy slate of movies to come out in one year, all four would hit one billi.

[cd021]

The adult version of Monica Rambeau (the kid from Captain Marvel) will appear in WandaVison.

In the comics she was the second Captain Marvel but also one was several superheroes including Photon, Pulsar and Spectrum.

[lefty20]

So SW will go bananas at the end of WandaVision leading to a House of M esque storyline for Doc Strange 2? It would give MCU a way to officially introduce Mutants.

[spurraider21]

alright well, looks like im going to sign up for disney+ :lol

[Xevious]

jane foster becomes thor at some point tbh

im just surprised shes back in the mcu at all
This. Portman turned in arguably the worst acting job of any semi-major character in the MCU.

[Pavlov]

alright well, looks like im going to sign up for disney+ :lolYeah, when I sign up will depend on how they release things. They might hook me into a monthly if they offer full seasons at once a couple months apart. If it's weekly episode releases I can wait until a season is over like I'm doing with DCU now.


This. Portman turned in arguably the worst acting job of any semi-major character in the MCU.I would so rather watch a Valkyrie movie or series than fucking Padmé Amidala playing dress-up again.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Dr Strange definitely sounds like the best of the announced movies tbh. The described as "psychedelic" and a "scary movie" also ties directly into WandaVison and has Scarlett Witch in it. Plus actually getting to see the multiverse.

Fuck yeah. Strange, Scarlet Witch, and I'm hoping for some Cronenberg / Stuart Gordon type other-worldly cthulu looking monsters. Would be so legit. Would only be hindered by the Pg-13 rating, as all horror movies are. I'm pumped.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Yeah, when I sign up will depend on how they release things. They might hook me into a monthly if they offer full seasons at once a couple months apart. If it's weekly episode releases I can wait until a season is over like I'm doing with DCU now.

I would so rather watch a Valkyrie movie or series than fucking Padmé Amidala playing dress-up again.

LOL you know it's bad if dumper is throwin out F bombs. But I agree. I can't see myself getting hyped for portman female thor.

[Trainwreck2100]

This. Portman turned in arguably the worst acting job of any semi-major character in the MCU.

Even hey assistant did a better job

[Pavlov]

Even hey assistant did a better jobTrue, I'd be all in on Darcy as the new Thor wielding Mew-Mew.

[cd021]

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/07/21/marvel-phase-4-schedule-complete-kevin-feige-comic-con/

The movies announced make up all of Phase 4.


Sort of weird but Phase 5 will apparently start in 2022 and run through 2023.

[lefty20]

I've heard that we'll also be getting a Spidey flick in phase 4. It wasn't announced by Fiege since Sony holds the rights for his solo adventures. If true, Sony will likely make an official announcement b4 the end of the year.

[lefty]

Jane Foster was female Thor in the comics, but still I didn’t see that one coming :lol totally out of the blue

Really looking forward to Doctor Strange 2 ... Scarlet Witch and maybe Nightmare?
Hell yeah

Blade is back and it’s wonderful and I loved that they went with Ali.
Snipes will always be Blade but I’m totally ok with this

Also, David Harbour will play ..... Alexei ? :lol

By the way the JK Simmons surprise appearance as JJ in Spidey 2 :cry

[Blake]

Yeah I like how they moved JJ/daily bugle to a .com medium.

[lefty]

Yeah I like how they moved JJ/daily bugle to a .com medium.

More Infowars style, as it was the case in the PS4 game

[cd021]

I've heard that we'll also be getting a Spidey flick in phase 4. It wasn't announced by Fiege since Sony holds the rights for his solo adventures. If true, Sony will likely make an official announcement b4 the end of the year.

Kinda hope they don't tbh. If they wait till 2022 then they could use Daredevil and King Pin.

2022 would have:

Black Panther 2
Captain Marvel 2
Spider Man 3
GOTC 3

[lefty]

We’re not getting rid of Jane Foster, are we?

[spurraider21]

We’re not getting rid of Jane Foster, are we?
at least portman's hot

[Xevious]

at least portman's hot
Doesn't make up for her shitty acting. I'm sure she's done something tolerable in her career... but Thor and Star Wars, it's like of she has to use the tiniest bit of imagination she sucks ass.

Portman and Larson leading the charge as female leads going forward in the MCU does not bode well.

[Herdonne]

Can't wait to see all of these movies

[lefty]

Daniel Bruhl has shared a (blurry) photo of Zemo with the mask

Too lazy to embed TBH, somebody be the real MVP

[Reck]

Sucks we gotta wait that long for more adventures of Fat Thor.
Where's guardians? Was hoping for more star lord and thor shenanigans

The Guardians of the Galaxy movies have been Marvel's weakest. I'm fine with them getting shoved to the back.

[spurraider21]

Doesn't make up for her shitty acting. I'm sure she's done something tolerable in her career... but Thor and Star Wars, it's like of she has to use the tiniest bit of imagination she sucks ass.

Portman and Larson leading the charge as female leads going forward in the MCU does not bode well.
Black swan was a strong performance

[Reck]

Black swan was a strong performance

Should stick to the psychological/Thriller genre. That's where she shines.

Was also good in Annihilation.

[cd021]

Daniel Bruhl has shared a (blurry) photo of Zemo with the mask

Too lazy to embed TBH, somebody be the real MVP

I gotchu

https://external-preview.redd.it/WI0LHFlg64c32KHr6iQTCGGXOqtQSemoi_71ebcRoWw.png?wi dth=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&01bf0598
https://i.imgur.com/WvhjWVz.png
Someone on reddit, color corrected it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/ch3qdj/rejoined_the_color_channels_to_clean_up_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/ch3qdj/rejoined_the_color_channels_to_clean_up_the/

[Pavlov]

Black swan was a strong performanceYeah, she was great in that. I guess she can't apply whatever method she uses to sci fi/comic stuff.

[lefty]

I gotchu

https://external-preview.redd.it/WI0LHFlg64c32KHr6iQTCGGXOqtQSemoi_71ebcRoWw.png?wi dth=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&01bf0598
https://i.imgur.com/WvhjWVz.png
Someone on reddit, color corrected it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/ch3qdj/rejoined_the_color_channels_to_clean_up_the/
https://www.reddit.com/r/Marvel/comments/ch3qdj/rejoined_the_color_channels_to_clean_up_the/

Thanks

Looks similar to the CW concept art

[cd021]

Portman's only 5'3, I'm worried about the level of potential sillyness of her in a female Thor costume tbh.

[leemajors]

Looking forward to Taskmaster in Black Widow, but I hope he looks cooler than the concept art so far.

[lefty]

Looking forward to Taskmaster in Black Widow, but I hope he looks cooler than the concept art so far.

ScarJo said that Logan is an influence on the BW movie

[lefty]

Portman's only 5'3, I'm worried about the level of potential sillyness of her in a female Thor costume tbh.
Just get her a mini hammer prop

But how does she get Mjolnir?
Does the story take place in another reality?

Or will Etri build another hammer?

[Trainwreck2100]

Just get her a mini hammer prop

But how does she get Mjolnir?
Does the story take place in another reality?

Or will Etri build another hammer?
But it's already been established the hammer doesn't make you thor. Her getting mjolnir doesn't make her thor

[hater]

Lol. That's fucking stupid

A midget playing a viking goddesz

[leemajors]

Lol. That's fucking stupid

A midget playing a viking goddesz

it's a comic book movie scrub

[lefty]

But it's already been established the hammer doesn't make you thor. Her getting mjolnir doesn't make her thor

Agreed but she still lifted a mjolnir prop at SDCC

Unless it was just symbolic

[spurraider21]

But it's already been established the hammer doesn't make you thor. Her getting mjolnir doesn't make her thor
3:38


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfYZZDTays

[spurraider21]

she'll get the power of thor. cap was able to command lightning when he held mjolnir. i dont think it would be difficult to make it happen. where she gets mjolnir is a different question

[Pavlov]

Well, with any luck Jane gets the cancer from the comics and all this stuff doesn't' last too long.

[Trainwreck2100]

3:38


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IfYZZDTays
In thor 3 Odin tells him the hammer was never the source of his powers it was a focus

[Pavlov]

In thor 3 Odin tells him the hammer was never the source of his powers it was a focusYeah, basically over the course of three movies Odin lied about every possible thing that could be lied about for no actual reason.

[spurraider21]

In thor 3 Odin tells him the hammer was never the source of his powers it was a focus
and yet in thor 1 he lost his powers when he wasn't in control of mjolnir... i think once he became "worthy" enough to hold the hammer, he regained the power, with or without the weapon. but clearly cap was shooting lightning at thanos with mjolnir...

[spurraider21]

I’m looking forward to not watching any of this shit :lol I was too committed to stop watching before Endgame, but I’m thinking Far From Home will be the last MCU movie I watch until BP2.
it's not like they've been dropping in quality, though

[cd021]

Falcon and Winter Soldier series will apparently having the Government opposing Sam Wilson from being Captain America.

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/07/28/the-falcon-and-the-winter-soldier-sam-wilson-captain-america/

[lefty]

Aaaaaaand




No more Spidey in the MCU

[Trainwreck2100]

Aaaaaaand




No more Spidey in the MCU

I doubt that. I'm actually in sonys side here. But I wonder if Disney is going to try and just tank sonys stock far enough that they can just buy them.

[Pavlov]

Aaaaaaand




No more Spidey in the MCUToo bad. Pretty easy call for Sony though.

[spurraider21]

cant blame sony for not bending over. but who's to say marvel doesn't come back to the table?

either way, i wouldn't hate seeing holland's spiderman mixing with hardy's venom. but its a gaping plothole in the MCU... i think sony recognizes that marvel has more to lose here

[Blake]

How much longer does Sony own Spidey movie rights

[spurraider21]

How much longer does Sony own Spidey movie rights
yes

[Blake]

yes

In that case yeah I think it's the right move.

Although there might be something to keep him in the MCU for the hardcore fans that want to collect them all later

[spurraider21]

In that case yeah I think it's the right move.

Although there might be something to keep him in the MCU for the hardcore fans that want to collect them all later
the way i understand it, marvel was only getting a 5% cut on the solo spider man films (but feige was producing them, to keep in line with MCU), but sony was getting nothing from his ventures in avengers/civil war, etc.

now marvel wants a 50/50 split of the solo films. sony can just hang onto spider man and have him in the venom universe. marvel has some new toys coming in with the xmen franchise now available to them. neither side seems particularly motivated to give up ground.

marvels just asking for too much. nothings stopping them from coming back to the table. spiderman is still the biggest name in marvel comics, so they probably should

[Texas_Ranger]

sony has made a lot of money from Venom, into the Spider-verse and all the early Spider-Man movies (even Amazing SM, ugh), so they pretty much are betting on themself and think they can make money on their own. I am actually happy i won't have to see SM in phase 4, which looks like shit so far. No Iron Man, no Cap America, no Spider-Man and pretty much fucking up Thor and Hulk. Good luck MCU.

[cd021]

How much longer does Sony own Spidey movie rights

The way I understand it, they have an agreement with the Marvel in which they have to make a Spider-Man related movie every few years (probably 3-5 years) or else the rights revert back to Marvel (Disney).

It's how Marvel got Hulk and Daredevil back after both movies were poorly received.

[cd021]

the way i understand it, marvel was only getting a 5% cut on the solo spider man films (but feige was producing them, to keep in line with MCU), but sony was getting nothing from his ventures in avengers/civil war, etc.

now marvel wants a 50/50 split of the solo films. sony can just hang onto spider man and have him in the venom universe. marvel has some new toys coming in with the xmen franchise now available to them. neither side seems particularly motivated to give up ground.

marvels just asking for too much. nothings stopping them from coming back to the table. spiderman is still the biggest name in marvel comics, so they probably should

Yeah, Disney asked for too much in my opinion. No way Sony is giving up half of their revenue for Spider-Man especially after if did a billion.

The original deal sounded pretty fair but Disney asked for a lot and Sony couldn't reasonably take such a deal.

They're screwed though because MCU fans are blaming them and they could actually really affect box-office sales of future Spider-Man movies going forward, if Sony does keep Spider-Man to themselves.

[Pavlov]

As it stands, Sony is going to get at least two more ~billion dollar movies with Venom 2 and Spider-Man/Venom. I can't see any of the other characters being worth much of a shit unless an amazing director takes a shine to the likes of Kraven the Hunter or something.

Only the Doctor Strange movie looks like a surefire blowout for Phase 4 so far. Keeping a pitch perfect Tom Holland in the MCU before he starts looking his age would seem to be a priority, even if it only means getting a little piece of the Sony movies. Is anyone champing at the bit to see a Shang-Chi/Natalie Thortman team up?

[Texas_Ranger]

if Sony wants to make a lot of money, get Raimi and make a multiverse movie with Holland, Tobey and Garfield. If Venom made 850M, i am sure that movie would double that.

[leemajors]

cant blame sony for not bending over. but who's to say marvel doesn't come back to the table?

either way, i wouldn't hate seeing holland's spiderman mixing with hardy's venom. but its a gaping plothole in the MCU... i think sony recognizes that marvel has more to lose here

Unless they get Miller/Lord to helm I'm not interested in the slightest.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Interesting to hear some of you give Sony the benefit of the doubt. Yall are right about the numbers tho, why would Sony budge?
Venom really fucking blew though, I don't see people giving part 2 a chance. Woody Harrleson as Carnage? come on

After Sony cashes in does anyone really believe when this phase is done Sony won't be standing on top of a third fucked up Spiderman franchise? Wash rinse repeat after that I guess.

[Allan Rowe vs Wade]

i'd be 100% behind sony on this except that they fuck up their marvel movies

75 years of proven, readymade script material and they can't help but focus group their films to death

[Xevious]

Well that sucks. I understand Sony not wanting to budge, Far From Home is now their biggest movie ever. But personally I have zero interest in an isolated Spiderman movie, or some Venomverse Spiderman crap. And I have much less interest in the MCU going forward without Spidey. So it would be in both Marvel and Sony's best interest to get this worked out.

I'd be interested to hear what Tom Holland thinks about this.

[gambit1990]

:lol

sony doesn’t even have to make good movies to make bank. losers would still line up see them.

[Texas_Ranger]

A lot of bitching about sony, while people should be bitching about disney.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

A lot of bitching about sony, while people should be bitching about disney.

Nah. Sony has shown they're shit when they have creative control. Venom did well bc avg fan was stupid enough to think it was an actual MCU movie, most likely. That gravy train won't continue. We'll have another spiderman reboot within 5 years with sony at the helm. Dumb.

I think the Holland shine will wear off real quick when he follows a script that isn't right for him and completely ignore his entire mythos in this iteration going forward

[Texas_Ranger]

Nah. Sony has shown they're shit when they have creative control. Venom did well bc avg fan was stupid enough to think it was an actual MCU movie, most likely. That gravy train won't continue. We'll have another spiderman reboot within 5 years with sony at the helm. Dumb.

I think the Holland shine will wear off real quick when he follows a script that isn't right for him and completely ignore his entire mythos in this iteration going forward

all the sony's spider-man movies did very well. They showed that they don't really need disney. And going from 5% to 50% is a shitty move by disney, while they already make all the money from merch.
I am also not the biggest fan of this new Spider-man, cause to me he looks like Iron-Man Jr. I loved him in Civil War. I think both of his solo movies are not that great, but just OK. Still better than the Amazing Spider-man, but not really as good as SM2 or even 1. I get it that some people don't agree, but that's just my opinion. I am also pretty sure they will make a new deal and by New Year SM will be back in the MCU, which needs him cause Phase 4 looks shit.

[Pavlov]

I do kind of chuckle at folks saying Sony is going to somehow lose money by going on its own. Even the crappiest Spider-Man movie grossed $700 million. It will be interesting to see how Venom 2 shapes up as far as the budget goes. Hiring Sekris seems like a good gamble. Still not expecting great writing.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

all the sony's spider-man movies did very well. They showed that they don't really need disney. And going from 5% to 50% is a shitty move by disney, while they already make all the money from merch.
I am also not the biggest fan of this new Spider-man, cause to me he looks like Iron-Man Jr. I loved him in Civil War. I think both of his solo movies are not that great, but just OK. Still better than the Amazing Spider-man, but not really as good as SM2 or even 1. I get it that some people don't agree, but that's just my opinion. I am also pretty sure they will make a new deal and by New Year SM will be back in the MCU, which needs him cause Phase 4 looks shit.

No one is saying otherwise. That's why I said they'll reboot it.
From fans perspective it's stupid though because those Sony movies are total fraud shit. The Solo sony holland movies will do well but be made fun of hard core.
That's why I mentioned venom. It made a killing but it blew and had 70 yo woody harrleson as carnage roflrofl

[elbamba1]

I do kind of chuckle at folks saying Sony is going to somehow lose money by going on its own. Even the crappiest Spider-Man movie grossed $700 million. It will be interesting to see how Venom 2 shapes up as far as the budget goes. Hiring Sekris seems like a good gamble. Still not expecting great writing.

Yes but ASM2 was pretty bad and it looked like the the series was going in the wrong direction. They spend so much money creating and advertising these movies that $700 million gross doesn't necessarily mean they make their money back.

[Pavlov]

Yes but ASM2 was pretty bad and it looked like the the series was going in the wrong direction. They spend so much money creating and advertising these movies that $700 million gross doesn't necessarily mean they make their money back.It only really did badly in the states. That was the difference between the numbers for ASM and ASM2. The writing/rewriting in ASM2 was indeed terrible and no one was looking forward to the Sinister Seven they were planning. I think they probably learned some movie making lessons from Feige and budget ideas from Venom; enough to give them confidence to go ahead alone if they have to. It was going to be weird to have a Spidey/Venom movie while ignoring all the MCU stuff anyway. They got the Toms for two more movies. A solo movie for each, then Spidey/Venom and worry about the future after that. It's going to be very difficult to screw that up in basic money terms IMO.

[leemajors]

Story spreading now that Marvel/Disney asked for more of a split after Dark Phoenix flopped. Makes sense

[Texas_Ranger]

Story spreading now that Marvel/Disney asked for more of a split after Dark Phoenix flopped. Makes sense

Disney bought Fox for 71 billions, I am sure they will survive with the 150M Dark Phoenix lost. Also, Dark Phoenix still counts as a Fox movie. Disney just wants to own everything, fuck them.

[spurraider21]

dark phoenix was still a fox production, not marvel/disney, wasn't it?

i dont see why dark phoenix' performance would be a motivating factor in a deal between disney and sony

[leemajors]

dark phoenix was still a fox production, not marvel/disney, wasn't it?

i dont see why dark phoenix' performance would be a motivating factor in a deal between disney and sony

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2478570/did-dark-phoenixs-box-office-bomb-contribute-to-sony-and-disneys-spider-man-split

[spurraider21]

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2478570/did-dark-phoenixs-box-office-bomb-contribute-to-sony-and-disneys-spider-man-split
article title is in the form of a question.

the insinuation is that they decided to let spiderman go so feige can focus on the fox imports. doesn't make sense at all. spiderman is the biggest draw they have.

[Trainwreck2100]

If Sony does do a spider-verse movie with Garfield and McGuire, which they should, because $$$$$. Then that's how they get around the Avengers thing Hollands spider-man gets transported to one of the other worlds, with no avengers.

[Pavlov]

If Sony does do a spider-verse movie with Garfield and McGuire, which they should, because $$$$$. Then that's how they get around the Avengers thing Hollands spider-man gets transported to one of the other worlds, with no avengers.True. Stick Miles in there if Holland doesn't want to come back after that.

[cd021]

Disney got greedy, plain and simple. Dark Phoenix bombing doesn't change that. No way Sony was going 50/50 on their most valuable franchise.

[Pavlov]

I was just about to say the main MCU has a real dearth of young heroes if they lose Spider-Man. Lo and behold it leaks that Ms. Marvel is being developed for Disney+. Will be interesting if that revives the whole inhumans storyline from Agents of Shield or they go another direction. Terrigen has been in the ocean for five years (I guess ten after Endgame) so Kamala could just get the bad fish oil.

[UZER]

Not a huge fan of Holland’s SM after rewatching a few months back. Still haven’t seen the second one.

He doesn’t suck, but its kinda meh. Just a little too goofy. His constant overreacting “oh no” style high pitched voice for every situation gets old pretty quickly.

[UZER]

If Sony does do a spider-verse movie with Garfield and McGuire, which they should, because $$$$$. Then that's how they get around the Avengers thing Hollands spider-man gets transported to one of the other worlds, with no avengers.

Are they in the post credits for Far from Home? Thought I heard that somewhere. I thought that’s kinda where they were headed if it was true.

I thought Spiderverse was great.

[cd021]

all the sony's spider-man movies did very well. They showed that they don't really need disney. And going from 5% to 50% is a shitty move by disney, while they already make all the money from merch.
I am also not the biggest fan of this new Spider-man, cause to me he looks like Iron-Man Jr. I loved him in Civil War. I think both of his solo movies are not that great, but just OK. Still better than the Amazing Spider-man, but not really as good as SM2 or even 1. I get it that some people don't agree, but that's just my opinion. I am also pretty sure they will make a new deal and by New Year SM will be back in the MCU, which needs him cause Phase 4 looks shit.

-Phase 4 looks fine tbh, their expanding on existing characters and adding new ones to the game. Phase 5 (starting in 2022) is shaping up to be crazy (BP 2, Captain Marvel 2, GOTG 3, Blade, Fantastic 4, New Avengers, and limited series' possibly based around Ms. Marvel and also War Machine)

-Really don't agree on the Raimi Trilogy. Bad acting and overall corniness hurt them. Only Spider man 2 is decent and that's because the Doc OC and Spider-Man fight scenes still hold up. I hold the Amazing Spiderman series in higher regard, the first one at least because Garfield and Stone acted circles around Franko and McGuire (Franko in particular, McGuire was stiff as a board) and better directed. Homecoming and FFH are the two best movies by far, though.


I do kind of chuckle at folks saying Sony is going to somehow lose money by going on its own. Even the crappiest Spider-Man movie grossed $700 million. It will be interesting to see how Venom 2 shapes up as far as the budget goes. Hiring Sekris seems like a good gamble. Still not expecting great writing.

-Actively pissing off the fan base isn't good for business, tbh. Why do $800 million when they could do $1 Billion? That is losing money. The first two Holland movies did a combined 1.9 Billion.

[Pavlov]

-Actively pissing off the fan base isn't good for business, tbh. Why do $800 million when they could do $1 Billion? That is losing money. The first two Holland movies did a combined 1.9 Billion.Why give away half? That is losing money.

[cd021]

Why give away half? That is losing money.

That too, but going back to the table and renegotiating down is really the best option. The fans blame them and they have a famously sketchy track record with superhero movies.

It's better to have the MCU connection because of the shared characters that could appear in Spider-Man (Deadpool, Daredevil, King Pin, Fantastic 4, for example) than to start a viliian-verse with Morbius and Venom.

[cd021]

Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) series reportedly happening for Disney+ according to Hollywood Reporter.

Likely going to be in phase 5, just before Captain Marvel 2 comes out.

[Pavlov]

That too, but going back to the table and renegotiating down is really the best option. The fans blame them and they have a famously sketchy track record with superhero movies..I don't blame them, though I do think negotiating would be a good idea.

It's great having Spidey in the MCU but he's completely dependent on his MCU connections here, which is ultimately a bit lame because half of the character's appeal is his having to figure out the superhero business on his own. We're missing a whole lot by his being Sticky Iron Man.

[lefty]

Ms. Marvel (Kamala Khan) series reportedly happening for Disney+ according to Hollywood Reporter.

Likely going to be in phase 5, just before Captain Marvel 2 comes out.

Also confirmed are Moon Knight and She Hulk

Kit whatshisname from Games of Thrones is being considered by Marvel Studios for an unknown role


BW movie trailer also leaked online

[cd021]

Also confirmed are Moon Knight and She Hulk

Kit whatshisname from Games of Thrones is being considered by Marvel Studios for an unknown role


BW movie trailer also leaked online

Just saw She Hulk and Moon Knight news :wow

Interesting to see if they get Hulk into the She Hulk series ,for an episode or two, to further his story with no Avengers movies for the next 4 years, probably.

[cd021]

I don't blame them, though I do think negotiating would be a good idea.

It's great having Spidey in the MCU but he's completely dependent on his MCU connections here, which is ultimately a bit lame because half of the character's appeal is his having to figure out the superhero business on his own. We're missing a whole lot by his being Sticky Iron Man.

I don't think we are tbh, we've seen the Uncle Ben story line alot, we really don't need to see it again.

I think Spider-Man 3 was going to build upon the growth of his character and we would have gotten to see him grow into his own superhero.

Don't love that it may just be him fighting two random rogue gallery viliians without the heart that the first two had.

[Pavlov]

I don't think we are tbh, we've seen the Uncle Ben story line alot, we really don't need to see it again.Who said anything about Uncle Ben?


I think Spider-Man 3 was going to build upon the growth of his character and we would have gotten to see him grow into his own superhero.No shit. Might be more interesting without Iron Boy suit.


Don't love that it may just be him fighting two random rogue gallery viliians without the heart that the first two had.Same writer. Who knows?

I got a feeling shit will work out. This Pitch Meeting sums it up nicely.

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[lefty]

Also confirmed are Moon Knight and She Hulk

Kit whatshisname from Games of Thrones is being considered by Marvel Studios for an unknown role


BW movie trailer also leaked online

So Kit whatshisname has been confirmed for the Eternals

[cd021]

Who said anything about Uncle Ben?

No shit. Might be more interesting without Iron Boy suit.

Same writer. Who knows?

I got a feeling shit will work out. This Pitch Meeting sums it up nicely.

twA9mV9R0hY

I've seen criticism leveled against the MCU Spider-Man because of no Uncle Ben.

The issue is that I didn't think fans are confident that Sony can pull off what was built up for Spider-Man 3. Even if they can, they may lose some credibility.

[cd021]

Kit Harrington confirmed as the Black Knight for the movie the Eternals

https://www.cbr.com/black-knight-kit-harington-eternals-character/


He's an Avenger in the comics.


the adult version of Monica Rambo (the kid from Captain Marvel), in the comics she's a lot in the comics but may end up being Photon, will be in Wanda/Vision.

https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/ustv/a28802923/marvel-falcon-and-winter-soldier-sharon-carter-us-agent/
U.S. Agent/ Super Patriot confirmed too for Falcon/Winter Soldier.

[lefty]

Adult Monica Rambeau in Wandavision

Wtf

The show will also feature Darcy from previous Thor movies and that Asian agent from Antman 2

[cd021]

Curious about Ms. Marvel's origin. Apparently shes a decendant of Inhumans in the comics but they don't exist in the MCU (Marvel TV doesn't generally count)

The show comes after Wanda/Vision, think there's a chance that she could be introduced as a mutant.

Then again, they may save the first introduced mutant for Namor the Submariner in Black Panther 2

[cd021]

The Rock's been rumored for Namor the Submariner.

That would be the perfect role for him in the MCU tbh.

[lefty]

The Rock's been rumored for Namor the Submariner.

That would be the perfect role for him in the MCU tbh.
I like him but I’m not sure he’s right for the role

But he might do a good job

[cd021]

https://comicbook.com/marvel/2019/08/25/thor-love-and-thunder-director-confirms-there-will-be-two-thors/

Thor 4 director confirms that there will be 2 Thor's (Foster and Odinson).

There is a rumor that the Loki series will play a role in getting Thor's hammer from an alternate timeline to the main timeline

[Texas_Ranger]

as a guy that actually read some of the Jane Foster Thor comics, all i gotta say is good luck.

also having ''Thor'' as a title is retarded.

[lefty]

There must be some alternate reality wizardry at work

[LaMarcus Bryant]

Yeah female thor sounds whack mostly bc I can't take Natalie portman seriously as an ass kicking superhero. She's so frail looking

[cd021]

Yeah female thor sounds whack mostly bc I can't take Natalie portman seriously as an ass kicking superhero. She's so frail looking

Yeah, she's 5'3, hard for me to see them pulling that off without making her look silly.


I like him but I’m not sure he’s right for the role

But he might do a good job

The one criticism I have of the Rock is that he tends to play a different of himself in movies- The Rock has a hot daughter and ex wife and their is a big earthquake, The Rock's a lifeguard, the rock has a ten year old kid that he didn't know about, etc.

He's charismatic as hell though, also half Black and Half Samoan. He'll be 50 by the time BP 2 comes out, though they may want to go younger.

[lefty]

Yup The Rock is super charismatic

As for Portman, I’ve learned my lessons

Didn’t expect Ledger to be a good Joker, but he delivered
I also surprisingly liked Batfleck

[Pavlov]

Can't discount Portman entirely after Black Swan and Lucy in the Sky looks like a winner too, but she seems terribly reliant on the writing to be any good, and the writing for her in the MCU has been just slightly above George Lucas level.

[spurraider21]

Can't discount Portman entirely after Black Swan and Lucy in the Sky looks like a winner too, but she seems terribly reliant on the writing to be any good, and the writing for her in the MCU has been just slightly above George Lucas level.
i really disliked her character in the first Thor film. oh, here's super smart scientist girl who suddenly drops her panties and gets all goo-goo eyed over muscle man

[UZER]

i really disliked her character in the first Thor film. oh, here's super smart scientist girl who suddenly drops her panties and gets all goo-goo eyed over muscle man

Uh, that was the only part of the movie that was nonfiction.

[cd021]

Thor 2 gets called the worst MCU movie but Thor was pretty damn bad tbh.

[LaMarcus Bryant]

i really disliked her character in the first Thor film. oh, here's super smart scientist girl who suddenly drops her panties and gets all goo-goo eyed over muscle man

It's okay getting to stare at Kat Dennings in all her curvy glory balances that out.

[Xevious]

Can't discount Portman entirely after Black Swan and Lucy in the Sky looks like a winner too, but she seems terribly reliant on the writing to be any good, and the writing for her in the MCU has been just slightly above George Lucas level.
Regardless of her other work... she's done nothing in the MCU that made me think "they need to bring Jane Foster back", much less give her a leading role.

[Pavlov]

Regardless of her other work... she's done nothing in the MCU that made me think "they need to bring Jane Foster back", much less give her a leading role.I agree. I thought it was a weird move after Portman disappeared from the movies. Having Waititi on board at least makes me think it will be entertaining. If they work in some of the cancer angle from the comics it could be much more than a girl power show.

[cd021]

https://mcucosmic.com/2019/08/27/marvel-has-plans-for-miss-america-in-the-future/

Ms. America Disney + show reportedly being developed.

Article mentions that, if true, then the MCU would have pretty much all of the Ultimates- an Avengers like group but for space. Captain Marvel, Black Panther, and Spectrum are also in the group.

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/pvvdQ1M/Screenshot-2019-09-08-11-07-29-1.png


Fictional faggots. In content aimed at children. Westeners are sick people.

[cd021]

https://i.ibb.co/pvvdQ1M/Screenshot-2019-09-08-11-07-29-1.png


Fictional faggots. In content aimed at children. Westeners are sick people.

You ran to this thread so you can bitch about two comic book characters that may or may not appear in the MCU? :lmao

[FrostKing]

https://i.ibb.co/pvvdQ1M/Screenshot-2019-09-08-11-07-29-1.png


Fictional faggots. In content aimed at children. Westeners are sick people.


You ran to this thread so you can bitch about two comic book characters that may or may not appear in the MCU? :lmao
https://i.ibb.co/8KwTQf2/Screenshot-2019-09-09-12-24-31-1.png

You went to the SJW film
You supported it

Now you'll get even more leftist ideals

[Pavlov]

https://i.ibb.co/pvvdQ1M/Screenshot-2019-09-08-11-07-29-1.png


Fictional faggots. In content aimed at children. Westeners are sick people.You're an easterner?

[koriwhat]

:lmao gay comic book super heroes

[Reck]

:lmao gay comic book super heroes

This is new to you? You do know that Batwoman was gay too?

Imagine getting triggered by whether a comic character is gay or straight.

[cd021]

https://i.ibb.co/8KwTQf2/Screenshot-2019-09-09-12-24-31-1.png

You went to the SJW film
You supported it

Now you'll get even more leftist ideals

I went to movie with a female lead, so what?

Stop bitching and find a hobby or better yet a woman- assuming that that isn't too SJW for you.

[cd021]

https://www.cbr.com/hawkeye-hailee-steinfeld-kate-bishop-mcu/


Hailee Steinfield in talks to play Kate Bishop

pretty great casting if it happens tbh she's one of the better young actresses. Hawkeye series sounds a lot better tbh.

[lefty]

https://www.cbr.com/hawkeye-hailee-steinfeld-kate-bishop-mcu/


Hailee Steinfield in talks to play Kate Bishop

pretty great casting if it happens tbh she's one of the better young actresses. Hawkeye series sounds a lot better tbh.

She is pretty good

[koriwhat]

This is new to you? You do know that Batwoman was gay too?

Imagine getting triggered by whether a comic character is gay or straight.

nope i didn't know that nor am i triggered. i find it all to be amusing.

you triggered some dude you don't know has a laugh at this bullshit? :lol

ps: cat woman started being lez when, in 2017? :lmao

[Reck]

nope i didn't know that nor am i triggered. i find it all to be amusing.

you triggered some dude you don't know has a laugh at this bullshit? :lol

ps: cat woman started being lez when, in 2017? :lmao

Try again.

[cd021]

nope i didn't know that nor am i triggered. i find it all to be amusing.

you triggered some dude you don't know has a laugh at this bullshit? :lol

ps: cat woman started being lez when, in 2017? :lmao

Batwoman started being lesbian in 2006

[koriwhat]

Batwoman started being lesbian in 2006

Lol

[Kim Jong-il]

:lmao gay comic book super heroes
:lmao skinny crackheads laughing at anybody else.

[koriwhat]

:lmao skinny crackheads laughing at anybody else.

who's this crackhead you keep talking about? you're a bitch homie hiding behind an alt and you know it too. :tu :lmao

[lefty]

So apparently Marvel Studios want to cast black people as Professor X and Magneto :lmao

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[Trainwreck2100]

So apparently Marvel Studios want to cast black people as Professor X and Magneto :lmao


TBH the last two magnetos and x's castings were fantastic, it's not their fault the franchises went to crap.

[cd021]

Feige would be crazy not to try and get Fassbender to reprise his role as Magneto, greatest comic book villian in comic book movie history tbh. Bring back McAvoy too just forget the previous X-men movies that they were in.

As for Disney trying to cast black a Magneto's and Professor X, weren't they based on Malcolm X and MLK Jr. ? Not that huge of a deal tbh.

Fury was white for 45 years, before Samuel Jackson was cast, Mary Jane was white for 50 years, before Zendaya was cast. Both were great calls so I don't really care.

[Chris]

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