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Nathan89
11-29-2018, 08:46 PM
Hiring based on race or gender is lazy hiring. If you have many qualified candidates then find the best one based on merit.
Also, I don't watch Don Lemon and have no idea when he said this.
My guess is you're misrepresenting the quote.
“we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them. There is no travel ban on them. There is no ban — you know, they had the Muslim ban. There is no white-guy ban. So what do we do about that?”
pgardn
11-29-2018, 08:48 PM
virtue signaling POS, amirite?
DMC
Righteous in his recognition of how awful everyone really is.
You tell em how it is bad boy.
Pavlov
11-29-2018, 08:48 PM
You have the most combined posts of anyone on the forum. Everything is ultra important to you Skeeter :lolNot doxxing and collecting personal information on anyone.
That's all you DoxxMC. :lol
virtue signaling POS, amirite?
Snowflake
DMC
Righteous in his recognition of how awful everyone really is.
You tell em how it is bad boy.
You got it glue sniffer. Don't fall to sleep on your back, you might drown in your own vomit.
Pavlov
11-29-2018, 08:50 PM
Adam was a cupcake. Easy peasy lemon squeezyTrue, you've worked much harder to dig up information on posters.
spurraider21
11-29-2018, 08:50 PM
Snowflake
another buzzword
another buzzword
That you use over and over.
pgardn
11-29-2018, 08:56 PM
You got it glue sniffer. Don't fall to sleep on your back, you might drown in your own vomit.
mm
Ok.
Cool.
Not doxxing and collecting personal information on anyone.
That's all you DoxxMC. :lol
:lol not understanding what "doxxing" really is.
Pavlov
11-29-2018, 09:00 PM
:lol not understanding what "doxxing" really is.Of course I know.
It's not like you haven't done it in the past.
Mining for alts is just another info collection field trip for you.
Of course I know.
It's not like you haven't done it in the past.
Mining for alts is just another info collection field trip for you.
Then you're lying again :lol
You lied as Chumpdumper, you're lying again as Pavlov. Your next trick should be to pull some integrity out of your ass.
spurraider21
11-29-2018, 09:13 PM
That you use over and over.
im glad you got the joke
Spurminator
11-29-2018, 09:44 PM
“we have to stop demonizing people and realize the biggest terror threat in this country is white men, most of them radicalized to the right, and we have to start doing something about them. There is no travel ban on them. There is no ban — you know, they had the Muslim ban. There is no white-guy ban. So what do we do about that?”
I thought he said something like...
He's a terrorist because he's a white male
Like I said. Misrepresenting the quote.
You're as sensitive about your whiteness as Nathan. Enjoy that.
Spurminator
11-29-2018, 09:46 PM
Hiring based on race or gender is lazy hiring. If you have many qualified candidates then find the best one based on merit.
Very often the difference in qualification is negligible, and how to score the variety of different qualifications is subjective.
You're assuming it's always cut and dry, and hires that factor in diversity always leave out someone who is substantially more qualified.
If you've ever been in a position to hire people, you know that's not how the real world works.
Chris
11-29-2018, 09:49 PM
:lol not understanding what "doxxing" really is.
:lmao
Pavlov
11-30-2018, 02:11 AM
Then you're lying again :lol
You lied as Chumpdumper, you're lying again as Pavlov. Your next trick should be to pull some integrity out of your ass.lol denying your history.
lol DoxxMC
I thought he said something like...
Like I said. Misrepresenting the quote.
You're as sensitive about your whiteness as Nathan. Enjoy that.
So if someone said "the biggest criminal threat in this country is black men", you'd be ok with it?
Very often the difference in qualification is negligible, and how to score the variety of different qualifications is subjective.
You're assuming it's always cut and dry, and hires that factor in diversity always leave out someone who is substantially more qualified.
If you've ever been in a position to hire people, you know that's not how the real world works.
:lmao
If the real world worked like that, we'd not need to have quotas and diversity training. No one would need to tell the sheriff "consider diversity".
lol denying your history.
lol DoxxMC
You care so much
Pavlov
11-30-2018, 10:33 AM
You care so much
You care enough to dig for the information. That's caring more than anyone else.
lol DMC
Spurminator
11-30-2018, 11:08 AM
So if someone said "the biggest criminal threat in this country is black men", you'd be ok with it?
In the context of legislation that treats a different minority group as a greater criminal threat? Sure. But that's not happening. Black men are already treated in this country as the biggest criminal threat.
Meanwhile, Muslims are the only group that gets talked about when it comes to terrorism, despite terror acts being committed with much larger frequency by white men.
As a white man I am 0% threatened by such comments. You feel victimized by these comments because you are an insecure pussy.
Spurminator
11-30-2018, 11:12 AM
:lmao
If the real world worked like that, we'd not need to have quotas and diversity training. No one would need to tell the sheriff "consider diversity".
There's still a human element in the hiring, which is what quotas and training address. Without diversity expectations, you think that hiring happens as a randomized selection of equally qualified candidates?
Spurminator
11-30-2018, 11:18 AM
The ridiculous notion that multitudes of under qualified women and minorities are being hired because of quotas fails to acknowledge the realities of under qualified white men being hired and promoted because they are white men. The latter still happens a lot more than the former. Racists can't imagine a minority being equally (or more) qualified than a white man, therefore quotas must lead to under qualified hires.
Chucho
11-30-2018, 11:27 AM
Nvmnd. I really don't care.
There's still a human element in the hiring, which is what quotas and training address. Without diversity expectations, you think that hiring happens as a randomized selection of equally qualified candidates?
Randomized? Hopefully not. I'm sure some people hold preconceived notions about gender and race where job duties relate. I think you can find competence in each gender (and incompetence) and of course, other races. You're just taking a chance when you overlook proven performers to fill a diversity quota, where you're required to ignore common prerequisites. The question shouldn't be why she was appointed, but why she was a captain if she couldn't handle pressure, assuming that to be the case ( I rarely take these reports as facts )
In the context of legislation that treats a different minority group as a greater criminal threat? Sure. But that's not happening. Black men are already treated in this country as the biggest criminal threat.
Meanwhile, Muslims are the only group that gets talked about when it comes to terrorism, despite terror acts being committed with much larger frequency by white men.
As a white man I am 0% threatened by such comments. You feel victimized by these comments because you are an insecure pussy.
Muslim is a religion
White is a race
I don't recall any muslim legislation. I recall specific countries being tagged.
The ridiculous notion that multitudes of under qualified women and minorities are being hired because of quotas fails to acknowledge the realities of under qualified white men being hired and promoted because they are white men. The latter still happens a lot more than the former. Racists can't imagine a minority being equally (or more) qualified than a white man, therefore quotas must lead to under qualified hires.
Strawman
No one suggested anything of the sort.
You committed so many logical fallacies in that post that I cannot even list them all. You can be against racial and gender quotas without being misogynist or racist. I know suggesting otherwise helps bolster your case but it's not true.
boutons_deux
12-14-2018, 06:12 AM
Congrats, all y'all ST assholes on your award
PolitiFact’s Lie of the Year:
Online smear machine tries to take down Parkland students
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2018/dec/11/politifacts-lie-year-parkland-student-conspiracies/#nws=mcnewsletter
Another linky pukey from the forum dookey
You, RG and djohn are the ST version of Russian bot farm
pgardn
12-14-2018, 10:48 AM
Randomized? Hopefully not. I'm sure some people hold preconceived notions about gender and race where job duties relate. I think you can find competence in each gender (and incompetence) and of course, other races. You're just taking a chance when you overlook proven performers to fill a diversity quota, where you're required to ignore common prerequisites. The question shouldn't be why she was appointed, but why she was a captain if she couldn't handle pressure, assuming that to be the case ( I rarely take these reports as facts )
So equally qualified candidates does not include past performance?
Got it.
I did not get that out of Spurminator’s post.
So equally qualified candidates does not include past performance?
Got it.
I did not get that out of Spurminator’s post.
Where did I even hint at that?
If you have to meet a gender requirement (or any quota for diversity) you automatically remove all of the applicants who don't meet that requirement, regardless of their past performance, and you have to accept the best of the applicants who do meet that diversity requirement, regardless of their past performance.
pgardn
12-14-2018, 12:50 PM
Randomized? Hopefully not. I'm sure some people hold preconceived notions about gender and race where job duties relate. I think you can find competence in each gender (and incompetence) and of course, other races. You're just taking a chance when you overlook proven performers to fill a diversity quota, where you're required to ignore common prerequisites. The question shouldn't be why she was appointed, but why she was a captain if she couldn't handle pressure, assuming that to be the case ( I rarely take these reports as facts )
Oh.....
It’s nowhere to be found ....
So the argument does not assume equally qualified candidates?
Oh.....
It’s nowhere to be found ....
Again, your inner voices might know what you're talking about, I have no idea. Perhaps you could share a bit less with them, more with the real world.
Requiring diversity is like requiring "fair and balanced" reporting. Both are only for outward appearances. Accuracy and efficacy have taken a backseat to social acceptance via facades of social awareness.
These countries so many libs want the US to be like don't have racial or gender quotas. They seem to impress the libs just fine.
pgardn
12-14-2018, 12:56 PM
There's still a human element in the hiring, which is what quotas and training address. Without diversity expectations, you think that hiring happens as a randomized selection of equally qualified candidates?
What does this say ?
Oh.....
It’s nowhere to be found ....
So the argument does not assume equally qualified candidates?
Not if you have to remove the males.
pgardn
12-14-2018, 12:58 PM
Again, your inner voices might know what you're talking about, I have no idea. Perhaps you could share a bit less with them, more with the real world.
Requiring diversity is like requiring "fair and balanced" reporting. Both are only for outward appearances. Accuracy and efficacy have taken a backseat to social acceptance via facades of social awareness.
These countries so many libs want the US to be like don't have racial or gender quotas. They seem to impress the libs just fine.
You don’t know what equally qualified candidates means.
So call me a glue sniffer again.
What does this say ?
It says "without diversity".
I addressed that with "hopefully not randomized" and acknowledged some bias exists.
Still I have no idea what you're complaining about.
pgardn
12-14-2018, 01:02 PM
Not if you have to remove the males.
So you have a group of equally qualified candidates and you remove the males that were equally qualified, then you no longer have a group of equally qualified candidates.
Nice.
You don’t know what equally qualified candidates means.
So call me a glue sniffer again.
I know how to read that in the context of the entire sentence.
The term "candidates" in that sentence refers to all candidates. Once you use the diversity filter, you remove a section of those candidates. Therefore the background of those candidates would not be considered. You could have 20 qualified men and 4 qualified women, and though one of those 4 women would be in the top 5 of all candidates, she might be number 5. You'd have to pick her over the remaining 4 who have better qualifications, simply because they do not fill the diversity requirement.
So you have a group of equally qualified candidates and you remove the males that were equally qualified, then you no longer have a group of equally qualified candidates.
Nice.
I never said I think that happens, and that was the question being asked, not a condition he applied. You can be qualified for a role but that doesn't make you the best for it. Have you ever applied for a job or interviewed anyone? You likely wouldn't interview someone not even qualified to do the job. Donald Trump qualified for POTUS. Was he the best for it? He was equally as qualified as anyone else who ran, because he met the prerequisites.
Do you really think these decisions come down to a group of people with equal abilities and backgrounds? Or, instead.. that they meet the prerequisites for the job?
pgardn
12-14-2018, 01:21 PM
I never said I think that happens, and that was the question being asked, not a condition he applied. You can be qualified for a role but that doesn't make you the best for it. Have you ever applied for a job or interviewed anyone? You likely wouldn't interview someone not even qualified to do the job. Donald Trump qualified for POTUS. Was he the best for it? He was equally as qualified as anyone else who ran, because he met the prerequisites.
Do you really think these decisions come down to a group of people with equal abilities and backgrounds? Or, instead.. that they meet the prerequisites for the job?
Who has never applied for a job that has a job (besides nepotistic family crap)?
Never ever have on my own.
Its always a committee decision. The party responsible goes with the vote.
Yes of course just like marriages, you always marry the perfect partner.
You know what this is actually an attempt to do . Interject novel ideas from a different culture that is equally qualified but not considered because of some sort of pseudo no fit fear. And of course it’s going to end up making mistakes and result in the hiring of bad candidates. All legislation has unintended consequences. But I get the thought process. Red team sees it as purely retribution for past sins involving race.
boutons_deux
12-27-2018, 07:56 AM
‘What if someone was shooting?’
More than 4 million children endured lockdowns last school year, a groundbreaking Washington Post analysis found. The experience left many traumatized.
School shootings remain rare, even after
2018, a year of historic carnage on K-12 campuses.
What’s not rare are lockdowns, which have become
a hallmark of American education and a byproduct of this country’s inability to curb its gun violence epidemic.
Lockdowns save lives during real attacks, but even when there is no gunman stalking the hallways,
the procedures can inflict immense psychological damage on children convinced that they’re in danger.
And the number of kids who have experienced these ordeals is extraordinary.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/local/school-lockdowns-in-america/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9f62be7b4cce (https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2018/local/school-lockdowns-in-america/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.9f62be7b4cce)
Yet another symptom of how incurably sick America is, because BigGun must have its profits.
Chris
01-11-2019, 05:34 PM
https://twitter.com/GovRonDeSantis/status/1083847237304811521
Two of the survivors of this attack have killed themselves. Just a week apart.
Spirit Cooked Reck
03-24-2019, 03:25 PM
Two of the survivors of this attack have killed themselves. Just a week apart.
I know cos I met with them.
boutons_deux
04-08-2019, 11:30 AM
Major mass shootings had little effect on voting in communities most affected, Post analysis finds
So when they protested gun violence last summer by staging a “die-in” at the local Publix grocery store, they were shocked by the reaction.
Gun rights activists and some shoppers taunted and mocked them.
One stepped on Patricia’s hand, saying, “I’m sorry for your loss,”
Another man swore at Manuel while screaming his support for the National Rifle Association.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/after-major-mass-shootings-communities-shifted-slightly-to-the-left-post-analysis-finds/2019/04/07/e1bfadbe-2be5-11e9-984d-9b8fba003e81_story.html?utm_term=.e7ac44922270&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1 (https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/after-major-mass-shootings-communities-shifted-slightly-to-the-left-post-analysis-finds/2019/04/07/e1bfadbe-2be5-11e9-984d-9b8fba003e81_story.html?utm_term=.e7ac44922270&wpisrc=nl_most&wpmm=1)
Y'all rightwingnutjob gun fellators are sodden with hate and deeply ill,
and of course duped and racialized by BigGun as much as any Muslim radicalized on line.
SpursforSix
04-08-2019, 02:55 PM
One stepped on Patricia’s hand, saying, “I’m sorry for your loss,”
lmao. I don't buy that. At least not how it's implied.
Chris
06-04-2019, 03:01 PM
https://twitter.com/RealSaavedra/status/1135992528568635392
Winehole23
06-17-2019, 11:29 AM
Laura Loomer and David Wohl joined forces with the woke left to cancel Kyle Kashuv.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kyle-kashuv-parkland-survivor-has-harvard-admission-pulled-over-racial-slurs
boutons_deux
06-17-2019, 11:35 AM
Laura Loomer and David Wohl joined forces with the woke left to cancel Kyle Kashuv.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kyle-kashuv-parkland-survivor-has-harvard-admission-pulled-over-racial-slurs
"sticks and stones ..."
Trill Clinton
06-17-2019, 12:15 PM
Laura Loomer and David Wohl joined forces with the woke left to cancel Kyle Kashuv.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/kyle-kashuv-parkland-survivor-has-harvard-admission-pulled-over-racial-slurs
He can get a full ride to Trump University
boutons_deux
06-17-2019, 12:17 PM
He can get a full ride to Trump University
.. and summer job with Trash Foundation
Kyle Kashuv
06-17-2019, 06:53 PM
Hogg - Harvard
Kashuv - Parkland Community College
:lmao Chris
Creating an alt to make fun of a HS school shooting survivor = hero
ChumpDumper
06-17-2019, 07:14 PM
Creating an alt to make fun of a HS school shooting survivor = hero
Too edgy for you?
Too edgy for you?
You probably thought that would come across as pithy.
Pavlov
06-17-2019, 11:06 PM
You probably thought that would come across as pithy.Serious question tbh.
Spurtacular
06-17-2019, 11:34 PM
Serious question tbh.
:lmao Psyhopav honesty :lmao
Spurtacular
06-17-2019, 11:35 PM
Hogg - Harvard
:lmao Not good enough for California public college. :lmao
Serious question tbh.
You're like a tether ball,you're guaranteed to continue returning for more punishment until the striker just walks away and you hang there by your lonesome.
AaronY
06-18-2019, 01:21 AM
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Pavlov
06-18-2019, 01:40 AM
You're like a tether ball,you're guaranteed to continue returning for more punishment until the striker just walks away and you hang there by your lonesome.Actually, I want to know why you're taking umbrage at that particular joke.
You don't have to answer if it's a sensitive subject or something like that.
Actually, I want to know why you're taking umbrage at that particular joke.
You don't have to answer if it's a sensitive subject or something like that.
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/80877bbf-3d65-423f-946c-41e415d57264_1.65bb3dd8927aec8ff7c53b2e4b51526a.jp eg
Pavlov
06-18-2019, 11:12 AM
https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/80877bbf-3d65-423f-946c-41e415d57264_1.65bb3dd8927aec8ff7c53b2e4b51526a.jp egBut you're not actually hitting me, metaphorically speaking.
You're saying maybe you could, which is fine -- it's ST, have at it.
I'm asking you why you decided to state your disdain for some dude who made a screen name in ST tradition. It's not the kind of thing you often do.
Spurminator
06-18-2019, 01:45 PM
1140651710265909249
He parlayed a school shooting into becoming a mouthpiece for TPUSA and other alt-right bullshitters, sounds like a real stand-up kid.
koriwhat
06-18-2019, 07:18 PM
He parlayed a school shooting into becoming a mouthpiece for TPUSA and other alt-right bullshitters, sounds like a real stand-up kid.
I don't back the kid however you do realize your history here is archived, right? Let's dig in! Oh yeah you've been here since the peak of trolling with "faggot" and the like...
Hard to make the case that Harvard was biased here when they admitted Kashuv in the first place. Did Fox News defend Kashuv over this?
Pavlov
06-19-2019, 12:24 PM
Hard to make the case that Harvard was biased here when they admitted Kashuv in the first place. Did Fox News defend Kashuv over this?Why would Kashuv want to go to det shithole Harvard anyway while he could get a full ride at Liberty or Bob Jones or Hillsdale?
Why would Kashuv want to go to det shithole Harvard anyway while he could get a full ride at Liberty or Bob Jones or Hillsdale?
Because he's actually pretty book smart (supposedly he had a 1500+ SAT score).
Pavlov
06-19-2019, 01:29 PM
Because he's actually pretty book smart (supposedly he had a 1500+ SAT score).Yeah, I'm joking. Liberty would probably put him on the faculty at this point.
boutons_deux
06-19-2019, 01:31 PM
Because he's actually pretty book smart (supposedly he had a 1500+ SAT score).
1500+ not enough
probably 1000s of applicants with 1600, AND lots of AP credit, and mastering of weird hobby(s), extracurricular achievements.
1500+ not enough
probably 1000s of applicants with 1600, AND lots of AP credit, and mastering of weird hobby(s), extracurricular achievements.
No, I know that. I'm just saying he's book smart in response to the question that was posed.
Winehole23
06-19-2019, 01:49 PM
40,000 applicants for 2000 openings. Personal character is a distingushing trait, Mr. Kashuv weeded himself out by doing an intentional and grossly offensive racism.
Pavlov
06-19-2019, 01:57 PM
It will be interesting to see who takes him now or next year.
It will be interesting to see who takes him now or next year.
I'd probably recommend a gap year to let this story cool down a bit.
Winehole23
06-19-2019, 05:58 PM
I'd probably recommend a gap year to let this story cool down a bit.If Kashuv can make a good grift of it now, he might not need to go to college.
Winehole23
06-20-2019, 02:21 PM
Ah, the youthful indiscretions of 18 months ago:
https://images.app.goo.gl/TqtBA5dYSqxmZXy8A
Spurminator
06-20-2019, 02:42 PM
Weren't people calling him the Valedictorian when he was a Junior? What ever happened with that?
Winehole23
06-20-2019, 03:15 PM
Weren't people calling him the Valedictorian when he was a Junior? What ever happened with that?No idea.
Isn't it a shame colleges judge applicants based on stuff they did... (squints)... in high school?
Winehole23
07-21-2021, 09:39 AM
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Yep never posted here lol
Thread
10-06-2021, 04:30 PM
Weren't people calling him the Valedictorian when he was a Junior? What ever happened with that?
There's a trend where you give it to the biggest asshole in the school in order to bring him round and challenge him to act like somebody. Like a pro sports team giving team captain status to the worst behaved black man on the planet & on said team. That's real popular now. That way the white GM doesn't end up on a bread line.
ducks
10-13-2022, 03:27 PM
So a person plans for over 7 months for a mass shooting killing 17 people wounding 17 more. Admits this in court. Admits doing it.
A jury thinks about 7 hours ask 2 times for a dr to read his testimonies again. And says judge just give him life in prison no patrol.
Why have the death penalty. If he can plan it for over 7 months he is mentally fit.
Oh and why in the world would it needed to be a 3 month trial ?
The gov is ticked
He said it took 4.5 years to get to this point
Used to be 6 months and he would have been executed
ducks
10-13-2022, 03:28 PM
Want more mass shootings keep this stupid sentences up
ChumpDumper
10-13-2022, 03:30 PM
Want more mass shootings keep this stupid sentences upThese killers don't care about living when they decide to go through with this kind of killing.
spurraider21
10-13-2022, 03:31 PM
963918061094006784
:lol
ducks
10-13-2022, 09:44 PM
These killers don't care about living when they decide to go through with this kind of killing.
So kill the son of bitches
ChumpDumper
10-14-2022, 12:40 AM
So kill the son of bitches
Then what?
baseline bum
10-14-2022, 01:18 AM
So a person plans for over 7 months for a mass shooting killing 17 people wounding 17 more. Admits this in court. Admits doing it.
A jury thinks about 7 hours ask 2 times for a dr to read his testimonies again. And says judge just give him life in prison no patrol.
Why have the death penalty. If he can plan it for over 7 months he is mentally fit.
Oh and why in the world would it needed to be a 3 month trial ?
The gov is ticked
He said it took 4.5 years to get to this point
Used to be 6 months and he would have been executed
Trumptards always get off easy
djohn2oo8
08-19-2023, 01:37 AM
i can't wait to buy my first gun... had another weirdo the other night trying to get into my apartment. this is twice now and it freaks me the fuck out. this time around it was some drunk chick who mistook my apartment for the one across from me so no biggie. the first time though it was some short dude spazzing out in front of my door with what looked like a gun in his hand and he was hitting the fuck out of my door.
i'd love a gun for my apartment and shop. i really want a shotgun for my apartment and a 9mm for the shop.
you’d probably shoot yourself in the dick.
HemisfairArena
08-19-2023, 02:51 AM
you’d probably shoot yourself in the dick.
well, look at you thinking about dick,,,,its about time you came out of the closet, BJ,,,,i mean dj.
koriwhat
08-19-2023, 01:08 PM
you’d probably shoot yourself in the dick.
Something you don't have. :tu
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